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Title: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 12:47:42 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Merit.s on March 23, 2023, 01:06:17 PM
Inflation is the cause of that problem and I think that the government of your country hasn't set up a strategy to combat the high rate of inflation in your country. This is happening to so many third world countries that their minimum wage is below $45. From the title of your topic,I think if you want to depend on the government to bring you out of poverty,you are getting it wrong, because it is only you that can set your goals for yourself and work towards achieving it. Some governments are after themselves and their families, they don't care about what the citizens are passing through. My country is a typical example, government don't created job employment or create empowerment programmes to assit those that what to learn one skill or the other. So many Africa countries governments have failed in their part to provide for their citizens,instead when they are on power,they loot public funds and treasures for their selfish interest. Protests are all most everywhere in Africa countries by their citizens about the unfair treatment by their leaders.
Learn a skill and it will help your overcome poverty because if the economy is getting worst, you will always have a job to balance the economy state.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Marvell1 on March 23, 2023, 01:12:44 PM
It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on March 23, 2023, 01:57:24 PM
We don't need to apportioned any blame to any country or as a results of Ukraine and Russian war, let us flash back to 6 years ago how was your economy moving did your government tried to fixed things right before the war started?
Well as a matter of fact the inflation rate today is unbearable and if time not taken we could experience more hardship than this, because our country have failed us the people we called the government are just on a seat for selfish purposes which they ends up benefiting their pockets and their family members while its citizens keeps shrinking and wallowing this was as a results of Electing unfaithful/untrustworthy leaders, otherwise every nation of earths has all it takes to eradicate poverty among their occupants.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: MiF on March 23, 2023, 02:02:23 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I think we cannot blame the government, no one likes war or no one likes to see our country men to suffer, but there are things that we cannot control just like pandemic or a war a calamity, etc., No one wants it all but it will come and no one knows when, so instead of blaming government why we don't help each other do the things that can make the situation more better than put the blame on government for good.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 23, 2023, 02:07:58 PM
It was funny that the blame is always on the government, but no matter how we blame them, we can't still achieve what we want the government to do, which is why others are just doing their thing and not relying on the government, but when it comes to price, it is still not possible as the fuel is still high, and also with regards to salary, that has been debated a lot and a lot of rallies happen, but the government has no allotted budget on this, which is why they can't push through.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: nara1892 on March 23, 2023, 02:13:58 PM
It's difficult in cases like this, war conditions worsen the economy but that's not the only reason because inflation really really feels like almost everyone.
The government has indeed become one of the conditions where the people provide a shield as if they are the ones who are responsible but basically for conditions like this the government also doesn't help much I think because regardless of anything conditions like this cannot be stopped even by a government that has authority though.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Nwada001 on March 23, 2023, 02:24:13 PM
There is always inflation. Wars and conflicts are just the major sources of higher inflation. 
 
Government just have a small role to elevate poverty in it's country and that role is to create a friendly environment and stable economy which can attract lot's of investors into the country. Private sectors are the highest employers of labour more than the government it's self, but most of them find it difficult to cope because of the set out policy by countries regulatory bodies which is not in there favour.
 
Another is you as a citizen even if you are offered the opportunity to work, what exactly can you do for your self? Opportunities sometimes might present it's self but it might happen that we are not prepared for us opportunity. 
 
To reduce poverty in ones country both the citizens and the government needs to help one another in other to achieve that. 


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Queentoshi on March 23, 2023, 02:32:50 PM
It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.
The Government can not end poverty, they can only provide opportunities and make way for it citizens, the government can make life easy for it's people, but the problem most countries that have large number of poor people today, is because of their government, so many people that are in power today only cares about theirself and families not the people. Only us can end poverty in our lives, which is by looking for opportunities and finding every possible means to save ourselves from poverty. But the truth is the government have a role to play in reducing the rate of poverty, while we the citizens still have our roles to play.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: rat03gopoh on March 23, 2023, 03:04:58 PM
Answering the title, both will support each other. The population must have a desire to escape their poverty and the government must support it in all forms.

 
Government just have a small role to elevate poverty in it's country  
Totally wrong, eradicating poverty is the main task of the government. In practice (as I said earlier) it will be in several forms besides providing direct financial benefits, such as improving the quality of education, building and developing infrastructure, drafting and re-issuing some labor laws, etc.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DanWalker on March 23, 2023, 03:05:33 PM
Whether a country is developed or not, rich or not, depends a lot on the government because they are the ones who run the country. But if you are poor or just a small part of society can't blame the government entirely, the government can't go door to door to check and help everyone in their country.

The government can only create opportunities for us, but whoever seizes the opportunity is everyone's right, we can't blame the government if we don't do our best. Let's ask a question, why can other people become rich, but we can't? We will know why we are still poor.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 23, 2023, 03:13:18 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

All national governments are always facing inflation problems, and when a country ignores it, it is not unlikely that the country will face hyperinflation. Something that most countries do not allow to happen.

Therefore, as much as possible, other countries are making ways to lower the values of prime commodities in our lives. That's why other governments are increasing the interest rate maybe. But if it is individual poverty, of course, we are the only ones who can change the poverty we are facing.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Cookdata on March 23, 2023, 03:15:55 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Poverty exists in every country, but the proportion varies depending on the rich-poor ratio; only the government has the powerful tool to determine this ratio, which demonstrates how a country's government is performing. There is no way for every citizen of a country to have the same financial status in either a capitalist or a social system of government or even a traditional system of government, but the government can suppress the level of poverty so that life is comfortable for everyone and it does not appear as if the poor masses are abandoned while the rich people enjoy the economy alone.

In reality, if the government fails to fight poverty, it will harm even the wealthy since no one will offer some essential necessities for the wealthy, such as agriculture and products, for example, provision of a good mechanized agricultural system for the less privileged farmers would assist grow the economy and the availability of food in the country, that how the government should give and take to fight poverty, the farmers will have money and the government will have their tax and enough food for everyone.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Cling18 on March 23, 2023, 06:19:10 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to the very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see the government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Even countries with honest and hardworking government officials are having a hard time dealing with the inflation crisis. O government is exempted but they could do alternatives to lighten up the burden of their people. However, in some countries, government officials are also taking advantage of the situation. Instead of making solutions, they are doing corruption in different branches of the government. That's why people who rely on the government are really experiencing hardships. That's why it is better to work hard in our own ways so we can deal with the crisis because we have no one to rely on.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: ololajulo on March 23, 2023, 06:31:49 PM
The poverty rate in Qatar is less than 1%, and many countries have poverty rates similar to Qatar's. In my opinion, the government plays a major role in everything, since everything is solely dependent on them. Through policies, the government can make wealthy people poor and also make many people rich. They possess security, judiciary, financial control, and other resources, which will make leadership crucial.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Freddie Boyer on March 23, 2023, 07:12:56 PM
Factors such as global economic trends, political instability and natural disasters can also impact the economy and contribute to poverty. For example, the wars in Ukraine and Russia may have led to higher gas prices and inflation, which could make it harder for individuals and families to buy basic necessities.

Addressing poverty requires a collaborative effort between governments, individuals and other stakeholders in society. By working together to address the root causes of poverty and implementing effective solutions, we can create a more just and prosperous society for all.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on March 23, 2023, 07:24:39 PM
Government and society have their respective roles in efforts to eradicate poverty and make the country more developed. but if it talks about the prosperity of the country as a whole then that is indeed the job of the government. because they (the government) are chosen by the people to be assigned to manage the country so that it becomes better. but it is often the corrupt government that makes it difficult for a country to get out of poverty. I have an example but I won't mention the country but it seems one of the ministers in that country said that "if corruption can be eradicated in that country, then the proceeds from mining projects in that country can pay every person in that country around 20 million rupiah per month".

Well, from the minister's words, I myself just understood that the income of a state that has a natural gas mine or something like that actually has such a high state income from this mining. but unfortunately there is still a lot of corruption going on so often the benefits for the state even flow in the wrong direction (corrupt hands).

But we also don't blame the government as a whole because the people also have to work together in this matter to eradicate corruption. because corruption does not only occur in government but also in companies and in other matters outside government institutions.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Fortify on March 23, 2023, 07:30:21 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

The government could potentially achieve this, countries like Norway with it's sovereign wealth fund - where oil money was directed into a big public purse instead of being sold of for pennies to private shareholders, are rather successful. However politicians are often short term, very egotistical and usually looking out for their own interests in the long run. Whether that means they have subtle bribery teased in front of them, like cushy consulting jobs after retirement or generous hospitality packages for smaller favors. The world of business is constantly trying to manipulate laws to increase their advantage, maybe by stifling competitors or deregulating at the public expense.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on March 23, 2023, 07:37:33 PM
I don’t know where you from but the effect of the Ukraine and Russia war is being felt up till today, but trust me that’s not the only reason we have economy meltdown in some places.

The world is always looking for causes of economy fall to hang the blame on. Financial crises can be caused be rise of crude oil in this case due to war. But the major cause of economy meltdown is poor management. Russia has the largest oil industry in Europe but they aren’t the only option.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: YOSHIE on March 23, 2023, 07:40:49 PM
I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The government can only facilitate programs, training, economy, for the community in overcoming poverty for its people.
The real main role lies in each of us, capital and assistance may be provided by the government, but the community has a more role in carrying it out, the government cannot overcome the problem of poverty, if the community is lazy and does nothing.

In some cases, a lot of economic assistance has been channeled to the people, whether it's plantation programs, business capital and other assistance, facts on the ground.
they take this assistance to use it for their daily needs, in that way until whenever poverty cannot be resolved, after economic assistance is used inappropriately, the people will suffer the same fate again (poor).

Well, the role of society is number one to eradicate poverty, the government as a means of guidance, programs and additional economic capital to overcome poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Alpha Marine on March 23, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
It depends on the country you live in. I'm saying this because some governments have made efforts to reduce the level of poverty in their country while some governments just don't give a shit. All they care about is enriching themselves and their families, especially the governments of developing countries.
We know that the whole world is in a bad place right now due to inflation but it is worst in some countries and those countries are developing countries whose governments are so corrupt to the extent of not caring about how badly their people are suffering.
No matter what country you live in you shouldn't rely on the government to lift you out of poverty, worst still in you are in a third-world country. I know it's hard but you just got to know that you are all on your own and the government doesn't give a damn about you.

Nevertheless, it doesn't mean you shouldn't demand what is yours from your government. It is the role of a government to create employment and provide a nice environment for businesses to thrive, the government is supposed to make it's country a good place to do business, combat inflation and make sure the cost of living is as low as possible.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Synchronice on March 23, 2023, 08:29:36 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
People who are in charge of your country were born and raised in your country, in your society, among the people of your country. If these people are bad people for its citizens, it means that society has failed to grow them in a good way. I mean, it's not that government is a problem alone and the rest is doing well, the problem lies within people, within their ethics, their mentality, their traditions, rules.

I bet, if you live in a corrupt country where politicians make tons of money, if you ask a random citizen what would he do if he was in head of government, more likely you'll get answer: I'll make tons of money.

So, my answer is that citizens are the root, governments are the reap that they sow. If people think that things will get better if there is no government, then be sure that every anarchy turns into Monarchy or in modern world, into a government established by a team of certain individuals.




Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Yatsan on March 23, 2023, 10:16:46 PM
Some are really extending their effort to deal with poverty but depending on the government won't really help us escape poverty. Education I guess, is the key, in general. First, if people would be knowledgeable of things, they'd know how to plan for their future and that is one step already. Problem is, people in areas wherein poverty is obvious, are not even trying to make a change because they are simply used to it. Well ofcourse there are those who has the will but are lacking the oppotrunity BUT if you have the knowledge, you can create your own opportunity. It is not all about education indeed but no doubt that it would be a huge part of every man's success.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Unbunplease on March 23, 2023, 11:24:37 PM
The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: jossiel on March 23, 2023, 11:35:00 PM
It's normal for its people to have those rallies and wanting to convey their message to the government on what they're demanding for. They're paying for the tax on that country unless the country is tax-free, at least for some countries.

I believe that the governance still has something to do on how the life of people would be. But, if you're in that type of area and you're still thinking that the government will pull you up to get out of poverty then that's the time you need to start thinking that you can't be too dependent on them.

They can do something regards to the price decrease of commodities and for the private companies to increase the salaries, it's not that easy because it depends on the cost of living and operational costs if it's doable.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 23, 2023, 11:36:39 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think that we can eliminate food scarcity in way that every family would have some food to eat and water to drink daily but completely erasing poverty seems impossible currently. Not only does this depend on the family or groups of persons who do the daily grind but this also depends on the government by providing job opportunities to reduce inflation.

Personally, the theory and idea behind communism works but this can easily be corrupted when a government controls too much power and fails to do its part to the society.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 24, 2023, 04:16:58 AM
It depends on us, although government is also a human where greedy is a human nature, but if the government want to distribute free money to the poor people, it will affect the whole economy and cause high inflation rate. Don't only hope the government will help you, just do what you can and what you're interested, sooner or later the money will follow you since you're keep trying and want to achieve something.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: dothebeats on March 24, 2023, 05:11:18 AM
Governments do some things to allow this to happen, but the rest of the weight is on our shoulders. Only us ourselves can elevate our lifestyles and help us get away from poverty. It's not an impossible thing to do, but it is doable provided that you have the right mindset and do not lose sight of your goal. I won't really depend on the government for helping me reach financial stability if I were living within the poverty line. Instead, I'll make use of what I have, make do with what I know, and continue learning to get something for my hard work. I understand the plight of the masses when they organize rallies and tell the government to do something with their lives, but it's wrong to depend everything to the government as they don't have the power to help and lift everyone.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 24, 2023, 06:16:29 AM
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Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Poverty will not and will never end.
Government's help has limitations. We can't all depend to the government. We need to do our thing as well in order for us to get out of poverty.

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
When people are having a hard time, there is this nature of a person where they are blaming somebody for what they've done themselves like in this case, the are blaming the government on why the price of basic needs are increasing. These people are also the people who don't know what is called "inflation", and what they know only is that, it's the government's fault as to why prices are increasing.

Some governments are doing their job to at least decrease the price of basic needs such as oil, gas, and food, but on the other hand, there are some things that it isn't controllable at all like inflation. If people want to go out of poverty, they must do something and don't rely it all to the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 24, 2023, 06:49:33 AM
Inflation is the real problem that most countries find very hard to combat and win, this is why the poverty rate and situation in some countries are very bad , but it makes no sense to depend on your government for your life goals and achievement, I have seen too many people blaming the government for this, which is really unfair, the only reasonable things people can expect from the government are

•Good road and Stable Electricity.

•Advanced and Standby Security for the People.

•Better availability of Jobs.

Still, it is on you to find something legit you can do to improve yourself financially, it is wrong to expect the government to solve your issue of lack of knowledge to make money, start doing something, and believe in yourself only.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: karmamiu on March 24, 2023, 07:51:48 AM
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Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Poverty will not and will never end.
Government's help has limitations. We can't all depend to the government. We need to do our thing as well in order for us to get out of poverty.

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
When people are having a hard time, there is this nature of a person where they are blaming somebody for what they've done themselves like in this case, the are blaming the government on why the price of basic needs are increasing. These people are also the people who don't know what is called "inflation", and what they know only is that, it's the government's fault as to why prices are increasing.

Some governments are doing their job to at least decrease the price of basic needs such as oil, gas, and food, but on the other hand, there are some things that it isn't controllable at all like inflation. If people want to go out of poverty, they must do something and don't rely it all to the government.
Exactly. It is also common occurence here in my country, once there's an issue regarding poverty and money, it will always be the government to be blamed. Well it's also true that companies are the ones to give opportunities and mostly those companies are tied up to government, eventually it will just end up that the government is the root cause of all those things. To be honest there is no such thing as ending the poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DainSLane on March 24, 2023, 08:12:55 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
In my opinion the possible of conflict between Ukraine and Russia has contributed to the increase in gas prices, which in turn may have lAd to higher prices for basic good and services. But, it is important to note that there are many factors that contribute to the prices of goods and service including global ecanomic conditions, supply and demand, and domestic policies.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bakasabo on March 24, 2023, 08:21:19 AM
People in government and citizens are two different stratums of population. They mind their own business, citizens care about themselves by their own. Frankly speaking, government does not owe anything to the citizens. Poverty is the problem of those who are poor. It was their decision to act or not to act in their past, to be poor today. Problem of poverty is in persons heads.

In fact, how do you see government can end poverty? Make everything free? Give free money? Print more money? Then they would have to give and do everything to everyone. Lets say rich person is "5", middle class is "3", and poor people is "1". If you make +1 to every stratum if citizens, nothing would change.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on March 24, 2023, 10:44:03 AM
The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.
Maybe you're right. because even a corrupt government can plunge a country into even greater poverty. although it all depends on each of us to change our lives. we want to work harder and smarter or not. but the role of government is also important in efforts to prosper the people of a country. if there are no corruptors in the body of government then I think a country will develop more quickly to become a developed country and the poverty rate can be reduced every year. but everyone has their own interests. including those in government positions.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Gallar on March 24, 2023, 10:59:31 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
If a country's problem is definitely the one who solves it is the people in it (the people) because if only the government moves without the support of the community, surely the results will not be optimal and will not even develop.
conversely, if only the people move without government support, it will definitely not be organized and will not be controlled.

So in essence, if you want to fix the country's problems, you have to work together between the people and the government, so that they are more efficient and controlled.

the mistakes of today's society and government are less united, the result is disputes that never subside, caused because the government and society are not united in advancing their country.

and there are many things that cause disputes between the community and the government, one of which is the many officials in the government who are corrupt and unfair. This factor often becomes a dispute between the community and the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Vaculin on March 24, 2023, 01:14:28 PM
It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.
I don’t think the government will be responsible enough to end poverty. It won’t be, but they can create different initiatives to control and lessen poverty. However, it’s the people themselves that should be responsible to end poverty, and not the government. Because even if the government provides different opportunities for the people, if the people don’t have the right mindset to see progress in their own lives, they will always live poorly and continue to struggle in life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Davian144 on March 24, 2023, 01:44:50 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Your citizens will also not get anything if they keep blaming the government if the government is really trying to solve the problem, because the high prices of basic necessities are not caused by the government in a country alone. But this is a matter that covers a very general and large scope so that every country also needs to move to overcome this, even though some countries do not feel the high price of basic necessities at this time.

For this problem, I also don't want to directly point to the war between Ukraine and Russia. Because in the past there was also a war in the Middle East, but the prices of goods and staples for food were not as expensive as they are now, so I don't think that the high prices of gas and crude oil are now a result of the war between Ukraine and Russia. I think more that it is the cause of the scarcity of gas and crude oil at this time so that the price becomes expensive which also affects food staples.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on March 24, 2023, 02:25:15 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I would not try to shift the responsibility onto the shoulders of the government.
Let me explain:
- The government is those people to whom you have entrusted the management of the country. This is your choice. YOUR trust.
- your life and your well-being are ONLY IN YOUR hands. The state cannot provide a RICH life, the State can provide the minimum necessary standard of living.
- The state will primarily take care of large companies that provide taxes, jobs, but not about you or your neighbor specifically.
- Your activity, the desire to live better, this is the only thing that will make you and those around you richer. The more you earn, the more you will spend. The more your neighbor will earn by selling you vegetables or meat. The better you make repairs and buy building materials from your manufacturer.

That is why we must strive to ensure that the middle class grows, which really starts the economy (spends money, if very primitively), and as a result of this, the standard of living of all others grows. The state does not make you rich, but it should not prevent you from being rich :)


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bangjoe on March 24, 2023, 03:14:02 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Yes, it is a natural thing, in my opinion, for people who hold demonstrations about how difficult and how expensive basic commodities are in the necessities of life, the war between Rusai and Ukraine has indeed put a high enough emphasis on the scarcity of gas and oil so that there is a lack of supply to meet the needs of the people who are impact on rising prices.

It can be said that inflation is also a part of the world economy, but at this time due to the consequences of the pandemic and war, inflation has become larger and more unpredictable. Every government is different, some are still trying their best to bring stability and prosperity to their people but there are many greedy governments that only care about themselves and leave their people alone. But no matter what country you live in, don't expect too much or depend too much on others, I believe that only we can save ourselves, no one can save us.

Yes, of course, this is the impact of inflation, which basically pushes prices higher, and we can't deny that. Even so, we cannot depend on other people, still the place for public complaints is the government in their own country for the welfare and meeting the needs of their people.

But it would also be nice if we didn't just stay silent with such big problems that couldn't be solved personally, but that doesn't mean we just keep complaining about situations like that, we also have to increase our ability to be able to find opportunities to improve the economy that exists in our own families. before talking about how to reduce inflation and stabilize the supply of people's needs.
You are right, the logic that must be applied in this case is that no one can save us but ourselves.



Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Gyfts on March 24, 2023, 03:27:00 PM
Government shouldn't be in the position to control inflation, but they've taken that responsibility upon themselves to try and handle the balancing act of currency manipulation. Depending on the country, the government has the ability to resolve most economic woes by opening up free markets, lowering tax rates and regulation to encourage entrepreneurship, and staying out of the creation of central bank policies which hamper growth.

An individual government can't control global affairs like war. Understand, however, that most of the economic problems you see are a result of government ineptitude, not the Ukrainian war. The war just made matters worse.

Whether a country is developed or not, rich or not, depends a lot on the government because they are the ones who run the country. But if you are poor or just a small part of society can't blame the government entirely, the government can't go door to door to check and help everyone in their country.

I find the problem to be the sanctimony of the government which is they would like to go door to door and help everyone in the country. Instead of physically going door to door, they create a social welfare state at the expense of the working class.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Flexystar on March 24, 2023, 03:41:04 PM
This is not easy task for any government. Imagine running whole nation they have to look after millions of things ideally. From small rural village planning to big highway projects and from small vegetable market to big industrialisation. In that also there are hundreds of challenges at every footstep. Many times people try to avoid taxes and thus governments balance sheets are always on low side which means there is not enough money to fulfil the individuals dream of getting what they want. For that they need to work, pay taxes on time, have that healthy money circulation.

Does wat affect it? Oh yes it did affect it. Depending on the country you residing in and the wagering system this can again change.

Developed countries count the minimum wage based on ease of daily needs fulfilment. Plus they also look at hourly payment system.

On the other hand there are developing countries who can never see such minimum wage system due to population, different ways of budget, rules and much more.

So somehow it’s imbalanced throughout the globe.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on March 24, 2023, 05:06:29 PM
actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: AbuBhakar on March 24, 2023, 05:14:35 PM
actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.
By providing jobs and supporting organizations that helps the small individuals like for farmers or in agriculture government will be able to help if there are assigned people who will be responsible in making projects suitable for their areas. If every penny of the government will be spent in providing better projects it can make difference to their country. But if the country focuses only on making the official richer then there is no hope for small individuals problems will continue to arise and we will be alone to face the problems encountered.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 24, 2023, 06:18:23 PM
Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: YUriy1991 on March 24, 2023, 06:34:30 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

The causes of poverty are not solely caused by external factors such as war or global economic conditions, but are also the result of systemic problems such as inequality, corruption and inadequate governance.

Regarding the problem of poverty, in my opinion, this is a complex problem, and cannot be solved by the government alone or by individuals alone. This requires a collective effort and a multi-faceted approach involving government policies, private sector initiatives and individual action.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on March 24, 2023, 06:50:42 PM
Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.
Correct. means that in this case cooperation between the government and the people themselves is needed. And naturally the government must be open and accept any criticism, suggestions or complaints from the people they deal with. because after all they must be aware that they are currently in government also because they have been chosen and given the trust of the people.

Maybe what we as ordinary people can do right now is try to start improving ourselves. be it in any case, especially in matters related to finance. work more than complain a lot.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Botnake on March 24, 2023, 08:59:26 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
They can always do that if they really try hard to. But since the government has a lot of responsibilities to fulfill, they can’t hardly provide the needs of all families. Though they can give assistance but those are only good for short term, and if these people won’t work hard and strive hard on their own, they will only be starving to death. That’s why putting an end to poverty does not depend completely on the government alone, the citizens should also do their part so they can provide for their family and alleviate poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 24, 2023, 09:02:25 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
They can always do that if they really try hard to. But since the government has a lot of responsibilities to fulfill, they can’t hardly provide the needs of all families. Though they can give assistance but those are only good for short term, and if these people won’t work hard and strive hard on their own, they will only be starving to death.

In short, people need to help themselves in order to alleviate their status in life.
The government can only provide to some extent, but the real work will be on the people themselves.
Should not blame the government about your status in life, because yourself alone can carve the path of your future.
You may have born as poor, but growing up, you can help yourself how to get out of poverty.
Just remember, how many stories you've heard about those rags-to-riches stories?


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Docnaster on March 24, 2023, 10:23:20 PM
When it comes to poverty alleviation, the government has a huge part to play and individuals who are also not comfortable with their impoverishment also has their part to play.
Governmental policies goes a long way in ending or minimizing  the poverty ratio of a particular society because it the government policies that creates enabling environment for trade and commerce to thrive and also it some governmental policies that can as well cripple the economy thereby causing more number of people of the said society to remain in poverty
Then individually we can also end poverty by meaningfully engaging in activities that'll yield us good financial returns like engaging in business, scientific research and findings, technological innovations etc.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Viscore on March 24, 2023, 10:29:38 PM
actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.
If this inflation is actually giving a hard time for all those employed individuals, how much more for those jobless people. I think the government should start to consider increasing the salary rate especially for minimum wage earners so they can still live a balanced life and can still afford to eat thrice a day despite of the foods prices surging. Well, for jobless people, they should also learn to work and earn a living, as controlling poverty is not a full responsibility of the government but also on the citizens themselves.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: doomloop on March 25, 2023, 06:46:23 AM
The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.
Governments are there more than just helping the poor but they can also bring peace when there are wars. When I say war, it can also be a miss-understanding of one or two people in our locality. There are small government establishments placed on our localities to solved these mini-conflicts. Government may help to solve the poverty but we shouldn't totally rely on them.

There are things that will also depend on the people in order to make the action more effective. Unfortunately, not all governments are like this but there are corrupt governments who can only think about themselves but I think the people on these countries can still do something to improve their lives.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: gaston castano on March 25, 2023, 07:39:16 AM
If poverty really depends on government i think there no poverty since many many years ago, i think there is another factor on it, and it from people it self, if they want change there will be try to be better, poverty may be less but need time for that.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: kaseygriffin on March 25, 2023, 08:23:22 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
This is a big problem in many different micro and macro areas, so I find it difficult to give an overview of the problem.
But I see a few points later, whether poverty in a country or from individuals is a common story of the people of that country. And I don't want to blame the government for not doing well when I have not really done well, yes there are limitations that make people suffer, I myself was born in a country after the war and I understand that the unity of an entire nation makes a difference. And protest is the way that I feel is not the solution to the problem, this life sometimes we have not seen people suffering billions of times more than what we just experienced.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: CarnagexD on March 25, 2023, 09:00:11 AM
It works both ways. The government and the citizens should work hand on hand.

The paradox is that governments only exist when there are poor people. If everyone in society were equal, the main incentive for subjugation would disappear. Yes, governments may claim to be fighting poverty, but they do not go further than that.

Government may help to solve the poverty but we shouldn't totally rely on them.

There are things that will also depend on the people in order to make the action more effective. Unfortunately, not all governments are like this but there are corrupt governments who can only think about themselves but I think the people on these countries can still do something to improve their lives.

The paradox has a point. It's something not impossible for the government to do. The only that the people should not on the government in solving poverty is when there's nothing to rely on to them. And that's how things get worse because people try to solve things on their own but what about those who can't? If there's somethings that the government works on to solve poverty and not things that only benefits them, it'll be easier for the people to cooperate. People should know the plan and should see where the taxes go.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: posi on March 25, 2023, 09:21:11 AM
actually the main thing is that government should keep check on the cost of things which are of daily uses and edible things so therefore people will have no worries about the cost.

The people blame government because the salaries does not enhances as much as the cost of other things increases therefore people become unable to manage their life expenses. Almost in every country the people are facing such situations where they cannot maintain their lives expenses and poverty is on its peak because people don't have any job or other technique to get income.
If this inflation is actually giving a hard time for all those employed individuals, how much more for those jobless people. I think the government should start to consider increasing the salary rate especially for minimum wage earners so they can still live a balanced life and can still afford to eat thrice a day despite of the foods prices surging. Well, for jobless people, they should also learn to work and earn a living, as controlling poverty is not a full responsibility of the government but also on the citizens themselves.

It is tough for the government in this case, if the country's economy does not improve, the increase in wages means that more money will be circulated in the economy, which easily pushes up inflation. I think they have a reason not to rush to raise everyone's salary, there are a lot of factors to consider. The poverty and unemployment of the people are partly the faults of the government when its policies cannot move the country forward. But it is not because we are poor that we blame the government, when there are difficulties, let's try harder and make more efforts to overcome difficulties. Don't just rely on the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 25, 2023, 05:15:18 PM
Actually, when the government gets a lot of blame when a country experiences difficulties, it is natural. They are like a coach in football. if the team he was in charge of didn't play well, then they would be the first to be blamed, and such a consequence they already understood.
The surge in goods, especially those that are staple goods, will always make it difficult for the people. This is the duty of all of us, I mean the government moves with its policies, and we as a society must be able to help in pushing these policies so that we get satisfactory results.
However, as a government, it must not be anti-criticism, and if they are anti-criticism, those who actually make their policies will be opposed by many people.
Correct. means that in this case cooperation between the government and the people themselves is needed. And naturally the government must be open and accept any criticism, suggestions or complaints from the people they deal with. because after all they must be aware that they are currently in government also because they have been chosen and given the trust of the people.

Maybe what we as ordinary people can do right now is try to start improving ourselves. be it in any case, especially in matters related to finance. work more than complain a lot.
That is the problem for most people now. I don't mean to side with the government, but from what I see now, many people are blaming the government but they are just sitting around doing nothing. For example, they lack money to meet basic needs, but they just keep quiet and keep blaming the government. It may be true that employment and the ease of finding work will be directly related to the government, but that doesn't mean we only blame one party. As I said before, we have to be sustainable in order to benefit one another. Unless we have tried our best, but government policies are not on our side.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Shan85 on March 25, 2023, 05:18:33 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
In My Opinions tue increase in the prices of basic needs and the low salaries in your country is a major issue that has multiple factors contributing to it. And the Ukraine and Russia war may have played a role in the increase in gas and crude oil prices, it is not the only issue that has caused the rise in prices of basic needs.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: odunybiz on March 26, 2023, 12:45:10 AM
Poverty can not be solve only by either of the two.  It can only be stopped if the two parties work together. We as individuals has a major role to play to stop poverty in our society and same as the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: michellee on March 26, 2023, 01:13:09 PM
People are demonstrating because they can't buy basic necessities, which have risen while their wages haven't gone up. At the same time, basic needs cannot be provided or distributed properly, so in some areas, there are no supplies at all. So it's normal for people to protest asking for help from the government but unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to hear them or seems slow in sending the supplies.

But the government cannot completely eliminate poverty because it depends on how each person wants to try to be able to get a better life. It may not seem easy as he has to put all his effort into it but it's worth it if he wants to overcome his poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: virasisog on March 26, 2023, 04:55:02 PM
Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bestcoins1 on March 26, 2023, 05:14:43 PM
The causes of poverty are not solely caused by external factors such as war or global economic conditions, but are also the result of systemic problems such as inequality, corruption and inadequate governance.
I think what you say is quite right, because the cause of poverty does occur through a number of things as you mentioned and I think there is one more thing that can cause poverty to easily increase. This is a lack of jobs for young people with a certain level of education who have already graduated from college. They often find it difficult to find jobs that can generate money, so most of them also fall into poverty very easily.

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Regarding the problem of poverty, in my opinion, this is a complex problem, and cannot be solved by the government alone or by individuals alone. This requires a collective effort and a multi-faceted approach involving government policies, private sector initiatives and individual action.
This is indeed a very complex matter, so to eradicate it requires special action from several parties which do not only involve the government, because community parties and the private sector who have the ability to fix this also need to move to reduce the poverty rate so that in the future there were no more difficulties among the common people. So clearly this is not only a special task of the government alone.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on March 26, 2023, 05:42:23 PM
Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
Correct. we have to trust ourselves more to change our life to a better financial situation.
and when talking about the role of the government which is currently disappointing its people a lot, I think that is also happening in my country. But I see that the central government has done its best. but it's the local level government down that sometimes can't satisfy the people. often even an aid from the central government does not reach its true purpose for the poor. and even more assistance is received by people who have a fairly stable economic condition and are even rich.

but of course we can't blame the entire government because I believe there are still people who are honest in the government. but unfortunately I personally also consider that the majority of them cannot be trusted at all.

then we cannot entrust the change in our life to the government. we do have to fight for ourselves. and we must get used to not expecting any help from other people or even the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Kasabus on March 26, 2023, 09:43:43 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I know the government has its responsibility to end poverty, but I don’t think they will eventually put an end to it if also the people are not doing their part. Both should help each other so that poverty if not totally gone, at least it’s reduced or controlled. But take note that we should not rely completely from the government, we should also learn to work on our own and find a stable source of income so that we can provide for our family, and not just being dependent on what the government can give to us.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: D ltr on March 26, 2023, 10:07:16 PM
We can't blame the current war, because we can see the condition of the country before the war, didn't it experience difficulties?
actually the poverty of one country was seen before the war with the fluctuations in the prices of food, oil and natural gas, before but we didn't realize it early on because we still had money and when our funds were low we just realized it and always blamed the government,
actually how much money do we have if to live will be enough,


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Captain Corporate on March 26, 2023, 10:34:20 PM
Depends on the government. If corruption is a very big deal, like how Mona Sahlin was prosecuted for buying a single toblerone bar with her government credit card, then yeah then that type of government can figure out all the issues, including poverty to health to education and everything else, no problem will happen in that nation. Why? Because the citizens and the government branches have the culture and the power to do that, and they know that's the right thing to do. But unfortunately in most parts of the world, we have people stealing billions from the taxes and nobody does anything about it, and citizens still vote for those people because "the other guy is evil". So you can steal 10 billion dollars from taxes of those people and same people you stole from will elect you again if you scare them enough about the other candidate. That nation won't be ending poverty, impossible.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 26, 2023, 11:16:40 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
It's very obvious and understandable that any country having a crisis always experience hardship, because they will be blockage of boarder so importation and exportation of goods and services will not moving frequently in the country, so therefore i believe that will contribute almost thirty five percent (35%) of increment of items in the country and it will look like salary's is too low for human to survive.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on March 27, 2023, 09:04:34 AM
Poor people will continue to exist on earth so long as life exists. Those who think it can be ended don't sincerely understand the dynamics. It's not going to change. From centuries ago, poor people existed and I don't think it's going to be any different now. Everyone can't be rich even if government provides for all what is required to become rich. Poverty shouldn't be seen as something abominable. It should be recognized as a major part of life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: soramon on March 27, 2023, 01:43:36 PM
Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: FairUser on March 27, 2023, 01:56:14 PM
When self-interest is affected, some people always find a way to blame the happenings around it, and here I don't completely agree with the OP on seeing that as the cause of their poverty. a country. Where the government can play an important role in poverty reduction and hunger eradication by implementing social and economic support policies and programs for low income people and impoverished areas. And if you only look in one direction of the problem, it is not fair to all that the people and the leaders are trying to overcome the common predicament.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 27, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.

Jobs and education really are the keys. I am just glad right now here in our country that there are a lot of projects here about roads to improve our economy as well as generate jobs for people, which is very helpful, and also with education, it is free tuition here, which means it can ease the burden on the parents. It doesn't mean that it will end poverty, but some of those families could improve their lives.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: freedomgo on March 27, 2023, 05:17:15 PM
Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
That is the reality. Most of the government are not pro-people even when they are expected to be. Maybe because that will not satisfy their personal desires so instead of working to alleviate poverty, they are making the people poorer and poorer. Reality sucks. The reason why people should never completely rely on the government to solve the problem with poverty. People should be more responsible to work on their own, so they can raise their own family and give them the necessities in life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on March 27, 2023, 07:26:03 PM
it becomes funny when people always debate about how the government solves poverty in a country.
But we don't realize that in the world there must always be a balance, between rich and poor, between night and day, and good and evil and so on.
Do we not understand what if we live without balance, we have created this world with full balance. Let's imagine if we all became rich people, then who would be called rich, who would do what people do, such as farming, gardening and so on.
So I think it's destiny in this world between rich and poor.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on March 27, 2023, 08:16:00 PM
Someone here can explain to me - why do people think that the government SHOULD provide a comfortable life, and the citizens of the country themselves should only sit, wait, and until the state has solved the problem FOR THEM, suffer? :)
It actually sounds very funny. At least because the majority does not understand how the state and the state economy work. And they do not understand where the eradication of poverty, for example, can come from. For starters, one simple word - TAXES! If everyone pays them, as in Switzerland, for example, then they live like in Switzerland. Do you know that the population there opposed the increase in the introduction of an unconditional basic income? Which would provide everyone with an even higher standard of living? They probably didn't know. Do you know why? Think!
And remember an even simpler thing - the state - does not print money to distribute! It collects taxes and in proportion to taxes, according to priorities, divides them into pensions, and provides a minimum living standard, and medicine, and much more. Those. forms an acceptable standard of living! But at the expense of taxes and adequate distribution. And if the government that the population chooses itself is corrupt, and the population does not pay taxes, then it is stupid to dream of "solving the problem of poverty"!


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Huppercase on March 27, 2023, 08:23:18 PM
We can't blame the current war, because we can see the condition of the country before the war, didn't it experience difficulties?
actually the poverty of one country was seen before the war with the fluctuations in the prices of food, oil and natural gas, before but we didn't realize it early on because we still had money and when our funds were low we just realized it and always blamed the government,
actually how much money do we have if to live will be enough,

War will contribute to poverty irrespective of how the country situation has been, it can get from good to bad and it can get from bad to worse, don't ignore war because it can destroy what country has been building for yearss even if the country has riches in aboundant.
Bad governant is another point, when a country has bad governing, nothing will prosper in that country irrespective of what they do, it may lead to curruption and people will start stealing wealth for them selfs while the rest of the people so far without good food and high inflation.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on March 27, 2023, 08:28:23 PM
I think the government alone cannot end the poverty.  It needs the participation of its citizen.  The government may lead the drive to end the poverty but the citizend are the major actor on this one.  Government can make programs, projects and information drive for ending poverty while the citizen are the one participiating, maintaining and accomplishing these projects.  After all, the program of the government needs its citizen to make the program realized. 

So, IMHO, Government and citizen working together can really make a way to end the poverty.  No man is an island so cooperation and collaboration between the government and citizen is the best answer to end poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on March 27, 2023, 08:46:58 PM
Poor people will continue to exist on earth so long as life exists. Those who think it can be ended don't sincerely understand the dynamics. It's not going to change. From centuries ago, poor people existed and I don't think it's going to be any different now. Everyone can't be rich even if government provides for all what is required to become rich. Poverty shouldn't be seen as something abominable. It should be recognized as a major part of life.
Correct. If it's about poverty that will always exist in every country then of course it will always exist. even in developed countries we will always be able to find homeless people.

but the problem is about the majority and minority in the country. if a country is managed honestly by its government I believe the level of prosperity of a country will be more guaranteed. because state revenues such as from taxes and others will be returned to the development of the country itself. In contrast to a country that is dominated by a corrupt government, most of the money generated from state revenues from taxes and so on will probably only return to the pockets of officials. and the rest is then used for the development of the country.

So the government's role is still very important. but that does not mean that every poverty suffered by the people is caused by a corrupt government. no, I don't think so. because actually everyone is responsible for their own condition. even every year there will always be people who are originally rich and experience bankruptcy until they fall into poverty. and conversely there will always be poor people who succeed in changing their lives for the better and even become rich. and it is indeed part of the cycle of life that we cannot get rid of. and of course the government can do nothing about the cycle either. but talking about the prosperity of a country, it is clear that the government plays an important role. because after all they have been trusted by their people to make the country more advanced. but the contribution of society is also very much needed. so the people and the government must work together in this matter. namely in building a more developed country.

if it talks about poverty individually then it is very unwise if there are people who even blame the government. because actually he is responsible for himself. everyone should have their own motivation, inspiration and innovation. keep working hard, keep learning and keep improving themselves.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Vaskiy on March 27, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
In my country we've got separate category as poverty line. Even from that politicians does corruption. Based on the category of poverty line, anyone who is able to spend 0.4$ in urban area and 0.3285$ per day in the rural areas were considered as poverty. Even with such a calculation my country stands at the 107th position among the entire countries on Global Hunger Index. Government along with the people should've have better plans and execution to eradicate poverty which won't happen overnight.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Newlifebtc on March 27, 2023, 09:05:51 PM
Government is can not stop poverty from what I'm seeing so far, I believe that government only care for provision of what is relevant in the country not to eliminate poverty,  but a government that have the people in mind will directly, care for the people and create employment opportunities for them.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Finestream on March 27, 2023, 09:59:31 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
In my country, I would say the government is really making its obligation to help the citizens particularly those who are poor people. But even so, I cannot say that they can put an end completely to poverty. There’s always a need for cooperation between the people and the government to fight against poverty. Otherwise, if only the government will act on it, leaving the people completely dependent on the government, we will never come to alleviate poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: sunsilk on March 27, 2023, 10:09:00 PM
Government is can not stop poverty from what I'm seeing so far, I believe that government only care for provision of what is relevant in the country not to eliminate poverty,  but a government that have the people in mind will directly, care for the people and create employment opportunities for them.
And that's the direct impact to the people and can be seen if the government really does something for the sake of the people.

But to eliminate poverty, you just can't ask them to do it on every single life and person that's on their country. That's a personal matter that everyone has to deal with.

They're there as a guide and if they've got aide that's being assigned to their citizens, that's better.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Woodie on March 27, 2023, 11:47:08 PM
As much as i dont want to say it, unfortunately the government does play a role in poverty eradication!!!

Why do i say so , well the govt is in charge of policing which affects the economy generally and translates into either well paying jobs meeting minimum wages and also helps in setting the tone of employment ,  the govts involvement also helps bring down inflation which helps fix price of goods and service's which trickle down to the citizenry and the ability to afford them or not.

Btw i dont know about other countries but the government is the biggest employer in most countries and if its not employing it means more people will be out in the street's jobless trying to survive if poverty doesnt get to them first but in this modern technology its important to equip ourselves with extra skills to survive.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: fuer44 on March 28, 2023, 02:02:32 AM
Depending on us, they will only help a little to create jobs in various ways, one of which is bringing in foreign investors. The government is also only tasked with regulating the circulation of the local currency to prevent inflation. The government will also only regulate security and order for everyone who wants to run a business. So the main actors to end poverty are ourselves and the government is just the people behind the scenes.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on March 28, 2023, 10:10:34 AM
As much as i dont want to say it, unfortunately the government does play a role in poverty eradication!!!

Why do i say so , well the govt is in charge of policing which affects the economy generally and translates into either well paying jobs meeting minimum wages and also helps in setting the tone of employment ,  the govts involvement also helps bring down inflation which helps fix price of goods and service's which trickle down to the citizenry and the ability to afford them or not.

Btw i dont know about other countries but the government is the biggest employer in most countries and if its not employing it means more people will be out in the street's jobless trying to survive if poverty doesnt get to them first but in this modern technology its important to equip ourselves with extra skills to survive.


What you are talking about now is called "state control". But... It's a bit off about a "guaranteed solution to poverty". Although not, there are examples of state control, or attempts. For example, Venezuela. A "wonderful" example is when control and attempts to "force everyone to live well" led to a diametrically opposite result.
Therefore, a NORMAL state will never engage in "manual control in your refrigerator."
The state must create conditions for people to live with dignity. Once again, "conditions" and "people could", i.e. not to take money and give it to everyone, but to create conditions so that people, working, have the opportunity to achieve a higher standard of living. This is where the state assumes obligations - it is the socially unprotected sections of the population - pensioners, disabled, functionally limited citizens of the country. But their standard of living is directly proportional to the volume of tax collections, and inversely proportional to the level of corruption. Therefore, I clarify once again - the state is only a regulator, and we must "forge happiness" ourselves!


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: ultrloa on March 28, 2023, 12:39:39 PM
Government has a role to play to enhance the life of his constituent since they are the one who will give opportunity or skills to their people to get more better job or create good ideas which can be converted to money for theirselves. If no government support will exist for sure the country will struggle to find good programs to help their people.

But people shouldn't rely on what government could provide since at the end they are also the one who will work for it so thay they will be equip with knowledge and can get better jobs to get out of poverty where they currently on.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: karmamiu on March 28, 2023, 01:20:47 PM
Government has a role to play to enhance the life of his constituent since they are the one who will give opportunity or skills to their people to get more better job or create good ideas which can be converted to money for theirselves. If no government support will exist for sure the country will struggle to find good programs to help their people.

But people shouldn't rely on what government could provide since at the end they are also the one who will work for it so thay they will be equip with knowledge and can get better jobs to get out of poverty where they currently on.
In short, the government's role is to provide more opportunities to for the poor to work and earn a living for themselves. I have seen lots of cases about people who keeps depending on the government's benefits without even taking action for themselves. This is why by teaching them how to handle their own finances can also be a big help for them to improve their way of thinking or approach towards money.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: S3300 on March 28, 2023, 01:26:14 PM
Government are not responsible for making people rich, some people believe that government is responsible for their own laziness, the government can only bring good opportunities like free education, run water and build schools, this is the job of the government, not to enrich people, or something.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: southerngentuk on March 28, 2023, 01:31:49 PM
I see there are some problems in the current society that make people's life difficult but I don't want to talk about this. Because I think that not everywhere everyone's life is the same, we want equality in life, but so far it has almost never happened because of selfish greed or selfishness. groups with conservative views.
I'm not sure if the OP is really looking at the right problem, when the truth is that if there was no government to operate the economic machine and support the people, the economic situation of the war epidemic in recent years would this will probably turn some countries down. So the solution is to be patient and act ethically.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: G_Besar on March 28, 2023, 01:41:39 PM
Government are not responsible for making people rich, some people believe that government is responsible for their own laziness, the government can only bring good opportunities like free education, run water and build schools, this is the job of the government, not to enrich people, or something.

I think what you say is very appropriate to explain the duties of the government in each country they lead. However, sometimes some citizens are not aware of this, so they continue to ask for help from the government, even though the assistance requested is in the form of money consumed within half a month.

Actually this clearly needs to be straightened out so that everyone can understand the duties of the government because the government, apart from providing free education, clean water and building schools, the government now in several countries also provides free health and employment opportunities for young people who have certain talent in each of them. The point is lazy is a trait that must be completely discarded by everyone if they want to get rich independently in their life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on March 30, 2023, 09:35:41 PM
By the way - there is a great example when the state decided to build a "state of general welfare." This is about the USSR!
On the one hand, there were a lot of slogans, propaganda, and even a legislative framework, within which all inhabitants of the USSR were supposed to have at least an average standard of living, a set of social benefits, etc. utopian promises.
What really happened? As a resident of the USSR, I tell this in the first person, a direct "participant in the events." What did you end up building? They built a country where 90% of the population is a POOR population, with pseudo-incomes, pseudo-social guarantees. No more ! That is - the global poor, without prospects, rights and opportunities to change something. And this despite the fact that the USSR had huge resources! At the same time, the propaganda landmark has always been on the phantom "poor population of the capitalist world"! That is, propaganda invented how unacceptably people live in the West, and the poverty of the USSR was presented as a "high standard of living"! :)


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: romero121 on March 30, 2023, 11:47:24 PM
Wealth getting accumulated in few people's hands is the major reason for the existence and increasing poverty around the market world. This can be overcome through proper study and taking necessary measures. When the government does things in an effective way, automatically common people will give hands and support. In very few countries we were able to see the diverse growth, whereas in most of the countries the growth gets accumulated in specific region. This increase the market In that specific region and the rest stay as it is for years. This makes job opportunity accessible for specific groups. So, some form of diversification could make life better and eliminate poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: MusaPk on March 30, 2023, 11:56:55 PM
Government has a role to play to enhance the life of his constituent since they are the one who will give opportunity or skills to their people to get more better job or create good ideas which can be converted to money for theirselves. If no government support will exist for sure the country will struggle to find good programs to help their people.

But people shouldn't rely on what government could provide since at the end they are also the one who will work for it so thay they will be equip with knowledge and can get better jobs to get out of poverty where they currently on.

The reason why some countries are more developed then others is because of there governments working in right direction by creating job opportunities, providing adequate health and education facilities to its citizens. You can see that countries that are far behind in development is mostly because there governments are involved in corruption.
You are right if we live in a country where government is not doing enough for its people then one must not keep himself dependent on the government rather take some initiative that can improve one's lifestyle.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Flexystar on March 31, 2023, 04:59:22 PM
As much as i dont want to say it, unfortunately the government does play a role in poverty eradication!!!

Why do i say so , well the govt is in charge of policing which affects the economy generally and translates into either well paying jobs meeting minimum wages and also helps in setting the tone of employment ,  the govts involvement also helps bring down inflation which helps fix price of goods and service's which trickle down to the citizenry and the ability to afford them or not.

Btw i dont know about other countries but the government is the biggest employer in most countries and if its not employing it means more people will be out in the street's jobless trying to survive if poverty doesnt get to them first but in this modern technology its important to equip ourselves with extra skills to survive.

There are many thoughts on this one. Considering the population, the literacy rate in the country, infrastructure, and people's voting towards good government can make big difference. If a country is hosting a government body which has very poor co-ordinated people then definitely they won't good for the country. Poverty is not the definition of money actually, it's all about how literate people are. If the literacy rate increases then definitely employment changes, people start earning money as per their skills and increase their wagers over the period of time.

So if any country promotes education at its best then they will develop. The government will also receive a handsome amount of revenue in return considering 99% of people are working class. Thus, they can focus on other stuff like national infra, more educational institutes, higher research, and much more.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 31, 2023, 05:26:35 PM
You can't totally depend your life sustainability on governments, because they will fail you and you will get disappointed, but better still, you should learn to take full confidence in yourself and the ability from what you can delivers, hope in man is vain, some things we ought to do were left undone, how much more are we getting concerned on the affairs of the well-being of others, one need to encourage himself and be bold, less of fear and takes courageous actions towards life and live a determined independent kind of life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: erep on March 31, 2023, 07:38:38 PM
You can't totally depend your life sustainability on governments, because they will fail you and you will get disappointed, but better still, you should learn to take full confidence in yourself and the ability from what you can delivers, hope in man is vain, some things we ought to do were left undone, how much more are we getting concerned on the affairs of the well-being of others, one need to encourage himself and be bold, less of fear and takes courageous actions towards life and live a determined independent kind of life.
You're right, expecting the government to be disappointed because some officials don't have time to think about the welfare of the citizens but they are busy taking care of big projects to enrich themselves, instead of believing in the government's promises but we better have to work hard to improve history and make life better, so take advantage of every opportunity to work and you will be able to end poverty without help from the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: lionheart78 on March 31, 2023, 10:19:20 PM
As much as i dont want to say it, unfortunately the government does play a role in poverty eradication!!!

Why do i say so , well the govt is in charge of policing which affects the economy generally and translates into either well paying jobs meeting minimum wages and also helps in setting the tone of employment ,  the govts involvement also helps bring down inflation which helps fix price of goods and service's which trickle down to the citizenry and the ability to afford them or not.

Btw i dont know about other countries but the government is the biggest employer in most countries and if its not employing it means more people will be out in the street's jobless trying to survive if poverty doesnt get to them first but in this modern technology its important to equip ourselves with extra skills to survive.

There are many thoughts on this one. Considering the population, the literacy rate in the country, infrastructure, and people's voting towards good government can make big difference. If a country is hosting a government body which has very poor co-ordinated people then definitely they won't good for the country. Poverty is not the definition of money actually, it's all about how literate people are. If the literacy rate increases then definitely employment changes, people start earning money as per their skills and increase their wagers over the period of time.

So if any country promotes education at its best then they will develop. The government will also receive a handsome amount of revenue in return considering 99% of people are working class. Thus, they can focus on other stuff like national infra, more educational institutes, higher research, and much more.

This should be coupled with opportunity.  Yes, the government focused on education but failed to implement job opportunities, then the impact of this education campaign will be lessen.  So the focus shouldn;t stop on literacy, it should continue with job offers that give an opportunity to people to practice what they had learned.  The availability of jobs, both that demands intellect and physical labor, will somehow ensure the source of income for people in all walk of life thus elevating the status of an individual family.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: deathcode on March 31, 2023, 10:25:13 PM
You can't totally depend your life sustainability on governments, because they will fail you and you will get disappointed, but better still, you should learn to take full confidence in yourself and the ability from what you can delivers, hope in man is vain, some things we ought to do were left undone, how much more are we getting concerned on the affairs of the well-being of others, one need to encourage himself and be bold, less of fear and takes courageous actions towards life and live a determined independent kind of life.
You're right, expecting the government to be disappointed because some officials don't have time to think about the welfare of the citizens but they are busy taking care of big projects to enrich themselves, instead of believing in the government's promises but we better have to work hard to improve history and make life better, so take advantage of every opportunity to work and you will be able to end poverty without help from the government.

There are many factors that affect poverty whether it's from the government or indeed from the people themselves. In some countries there are indeed some governments that have not been optimal in carrying out their duties to eradicate poverty. It is possible that most governments today are good fields for enriching themselves.
Or maybe it is also due to the lack of jobs because the more years the population in a country will increase and the competition between workers will be higher.
And the poverty rate will be high if the citizens are not optimal in their education, causing people with low education to be unable to compete with others so that they become unemployed which causes poverty.
Actually, I admit that it is not easy to eradicate poverty for all citizens if you only rely on the government. It would be better if we also work together with the government to be creative in creating new jobs to help some people who are less fortunate or still in poverty.
We really shouldn't have to rely entirely on the government because our destiny depends on what we do.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Wakate on March 31, 2023, 11:58:51 PM
Depending on us, they will only help a little to create jobs in various ways, one of which is bringing in foreign investors. The government is also only tasked with regulating the circulation of the local currency to prevent inflation. The government will also only regulate security and order for everyone who wants to run a business. So the main actors to end poverty are ourselves and the government is just the people behind the scenes.
We need to understand that we don't need to always depends on the government to spoon feed us. We need to create business opportunities for other who are in search of jobs. We should not build our mind of working for people like getting a job with a mentality of not becoming an investor. We need to work on creating businesses so that we can become a boss and make good money not having the mindset of working for people. The government can only project the necessary effort to create good roads and provide some basic amenities in the society nit getting us a job.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on April 02, 2023, 04:44:33 AM
The poverty eradication is on both side, that is the government and her citizens (Thats us). The government can do it alone without our help.
Though the government has a vital role to play in the since that the price control agencies are not really working.
In my country, I bet you that the government are not really aware of some price increment on some commodities.
If we the citizen will help the government by not adding too much price on the commodities it will help a long way.
So, it all depends on both the government and us.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 03, 2023, 05:39:21 PM
Actually government cannot end the poverty as the population of country is very large and government cannot provide necessary things and jobs to all of the individuals. It's depend on a person that how he managed their life expenses and how they will earn and make money.

Government hasn't set any rules of earning and there are not enough salaries of people therefore they are trying to make money in some different ways and using different assets. Reason behind blaming is that daily uses necessities are increasing more in price while the salary remains low therefore a poor man cannot manage the life expenses.

I think that government should set certain rules that if things of daily uses increases in price then there must be increase in salaries otherwise inflation should be stop.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: boyptc on April 03, 2023, 05:57:47 PM
A government that has a heart to its people will do everything to give those services to make life easier for them. But if you understand that the government can't help you have a better situation, that's for you to decide that no one will help you.

It's like being alone in the wild and you need to survive. Poverty is one of the biggest problem in many countries and we can understand by that, that governments can't eradicate it.

So instead of waiting for their help, do your initiation to make your life better by either working hard or working smart. And in today's time, many do use poverty as their inspiration to become better and have a greater future.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 03, 2023, 10:53:47 PM
The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Ebede on April 03, 2023, 10:58:37 PM
The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
the government of current days does not care for the survival of the Citizens the only thing they are after is for embezzlement of fund that will be used for infrastructure and the development of rural area and that the graphical environment so government now does not even create job opportunity for the Citizens to have a good life that is why corruption has taken all over countries


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Mario Yamasaki on April 04, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
I'm sure the presence of bitcoin will not be too helpful for the poor, most investors are rich people so when bitcoin becomes more popular the rich get richer, whatever the government does it will be difficult to eliminate poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: hannahB4 on April 07, 2023, 08:03:25 PM
I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: ichsan ardi on April 07, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
I think nothing can change poverty other than ourselves the government will only pave the way and we will walk there don't depend too much on people we have to start from ourselves at least our intention is there.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on April 07, 2023, 10:51:01 PM
I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: capedbaldy on April 07, 2023, 11:42:53 PM
I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.
You are right, we cannot depend on the government or anyone but enough to rely on ourselves to work hard to get decent results to improve our economy, but I think that the government has an important role to play in opening job vacancies to the community because after the pandemic it has been difficult to get jobs. if the government opens job vacancies, more the economy will be improved so that data from that country shows that economic welfare conditions have improved.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: superman184 on April 08, 2023, 01:33:33 AM
I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
Private institutions and individuals only belong to civilians who have no government involvement in them except for the owner himself who wants to make cooperation with the government in his own country. Meanwhile, such as providing security and public facilities and other infrastructure is indeed the role of the government, but when there are residents who are not satisfied with one of the facilities from the government.

It would be nice for him to find a solution and submit suggestions to the government if it could be useful for many people because the government does not guarantee the satisfaction of just one person in his country. So you really have to be able to consider this and also sort it out properly so that there are no misunderstandings between the citizens and the government.


I think nothing can change poverty other than ourselves the government will only pave the way and we will walk there don't depend too much on people we have to start from ourselves at least our intention is there.
Poverty can indeed be changed, but poverty cannot be eradicated because when you feel that you are already richer than other people, you also have to make sure that no one else is richer than you and that is a very difficult thing so that the rich and the poor will always be exist in this world even though you can live comfortably and luxuriously according to your own version. Because usually people are easier to count because there are not too many, but this is precisely the case for the poor, who on average are always more than the rich in most countries.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Wexnident on April 08, 2023, 02:20:42 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The most you can depend on the government is some minor assistance during emergencies or help during the short term. In the long run, you'd still need to rely on yourself. The government is simply there to support after all, and possibly answer some immediate problems that crop up in case of emergencies but that's it. As for salary raise idrk how it works but I think only in drastic cases would the government ask private companies (if it was possible even) to increase the minimum wage?

Tbf though, it also doesn't help that the society we have only pushes the idea of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 08, 2023, 04:32:11 AM
When it comes to salary, you can't really feel that the government is taking action on it, or if it has, it is just small because raising a salary is very costly, even if it is just a few cents, and they don't have a budget, and mostly government prioritizes physical projects like roads and ETC. But if the government really wants to raise the salary, they can, but mostly they will sacrifice other things. Even the best president that we've got in the country was able to increase some salary, but still we are struggling. It is better to rely on yourself than mocking the government, as it is still useless.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: irhact on April 08, 2023, 04:51:01 AM
in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.

Working hard only can't get us the solution to end poverty in our society but working smart will. If you noticed most hard workers like labourers and repair guys don't earn much wages compared to the office workers that uses their brain for the works. When we work smart we invent things that'll help humanity and in return we get cash rewards and become comfortable because we can now provide for ourselves.

Using China as an example, they're one of the world must advance nation and that's because majority of them are technology minded, they constantly invent things that can be used to make life easier and they have the world best economy with lot of them been millionaires due to their involvement in technology.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Sanitough on April 08, 2023, 03:04:12 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I believe the government has a very big role in  poverty eradication. In fact, they are proposing a lot of programs if not to end but at least to lessen poverty, but the question is when will these programs be put into action? And can they be sustainable enough to eradicate poverty in the long run? The clear answer to this is that no one can help the people but only theirselves. If they won’t search for a job and work, they will forever remain poor and continue struggling to make a living. Though government provides assistance but they’re just good temporarily, at the end of the day the people should be responsible to get to work so they can provide the basic needs of their family even without relying from the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Dickiy on April 08, 2023, 03:26:56 PM
The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
Poverty will always exist in every country, even countries that are said to be the most developed countries, they can only reduce the poverty rate from the average number of poor people with services and facilities as you say. Each country has a minimum income for its citizens, which can be said that the standardization of poverty in each country is different so it would be quite difficult to say that poverty can be eliminated in various ways.
For example, in your country, people who are said to be poor are people whose income is below $500 in one month, and in my country, people who are said to be poor are those who have incomes below $300.
Yes, basically it is ourselves who are able to change poverty, but if the opportunity and development of your abilities are not facilitated by the government it will be quite difficult for some people to make progress, as an example in my country where there are lots of young people who are smart and successful in making products. feasible for the benefit of the community but always being hit by the government and banning the circulation of products made by youth, I mean it is not easy if there is no support from the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: naira on April 08, 2023, 03:32:37 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: erep on April 08, 2023, 05:01:30 PM
Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.
What you said above is the reality of certain countries, the oligarchs only act on behalf of the people to carry out their strategy, so don't expect promises from the government to eradicate poverty but instead they emphasize paying taxes for reasons of infrastructure development and the interests of the people, instead of actually that they use tax money for their interests and we have been oppressed from tax costs. I'm fed up with seeing their actions that actually don't care about the level of poverty increasing, even many officials commit corruption when the people's economic conditions are worst. so don't expect government promises because so far nothing has materialized for the welfare of the people, it's better to focus on your current job even though you are paid below the minimum but it is enough for daily needs.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on April 08, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
Once again, I want to ask everyone a question:
- What is your confidence or expectations based on that the state is OBLIGED to guarantee a comfortable life for everyone?
- where do you think the state takes money for the formation of social benefits?
- what does your position look like on the other side of the state - its citizens and their obligations - taxes, respect for the law, etc. ?

And let me remind you again - "the state does not have its own money, the state only has money in the form of taxes that it receives from citizens and businesses." And this means that all citizens of the country themselves form the level of well-being in the country, and it is the citizens who, with their taxes, help to ensure a comfortable life for other citizens who cannot independently provide for themselves at an acceptable level. This is an axiom, this is how any state works!


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: lizarder on April 08, 2023, 07:30:04 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Do you know how many people live in your country of residence? then try to calculate whether the government's presence can reach all citizens to solve the problem of economic inequality individually. Setting the price of basic needs is their responsibility and the government must have a way to solve it and the state has regulations stipulated in the law to regulate basic prices in the market, the government under the power of the president has the responsibility to maintain continuity of basic commodities on the market through related agencies . Inflation and recession cause a lot of problems, making it difficult for most countries to find a solution formula, so that they will affect basic needs and other needs.

It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: panganib999 on April 08, 2023, 07:46:56 PM
The government pretty much has the allocation and the resources to. But corruption and greed often take over and fucks with what is otherwise a good plan. For instance, it is a universal fact that a high quality education is something that would almost equate to success in the future, and there are miltiple avenues that the government can takento improve upon the current education system and give even the marginalized community to fight against the modernized world, yet as it stands today countries that are supposed to be rich are still poor, with very low state of education systems.

So yes the government plays a larger role in all of this than we expect, we were iust conditioned to think that the government has nothing to do eith our success when in fact, from the moment we are born in this world we are being controlled by the invisible hand of the Aristocrats.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: imamusma on April 08, 2023, 07:50:32 PM
It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.
Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: livingfree on April 08, 2023, 07:52:43 PM
Using China as an example, they're one of the world must advance nation and that's because majority of them are technology minded, they constantly invent things that can be used to make life easier and they have the world best economy with lot of them been millionaires due to their involvement in technology.
I think this is Japan. They're like living advance to the most nations like 10 years afar. And their government is playing a huge role for the policies that they do and how they've made every citizen there to be dedicated to their work.

So giving Japan as an example, look at the mindset of most people there. They don't even want to get married and just want to focus on their jobs. When we say focus, they really are focused on it and dedicated up to the point that they only get a single job and company and stays there until they get old.

Looking at the poverty rate there isn't that much and they're making laws like in every or some prefecture where they'll be giving money just for the people to move there and live there for certain period of time to help them economically and that's how the government intervenes with people's lives there.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: disconnectme on April 08, 2023, 08:11:34 PM
To be sincere have you seen any Government solve any situation, what they do is make it worse and create more problems, Poverty is a very good tool in the hands of the Government to keep people under control, just look at the amount they claimed they have spent to eradicate poverty and after spending this ridiculous amount, Poverty keeps increasing. The thing is that we have more dump voters than sensible voters that keep voting for this set of politicians. Just look at France, they voted for Macron, he came to power then stab them in the back to keep his friends in high places happy, can you imagine, his country is burning but decided to go to China just to make business people in this country happy. Government can solve poverty if they want, but to be rich is in the hands of individuals


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: darkangel11 on April 08, 2023, 08:22:20 PM
IMO governments are usually the cause of poverty because they want to control everything and on that road to total control there are impossible choices to be made.

An example of such control was the US covid lockdown, that turned into a chain of bankruptcies, so the government stepped in to fix it by printing money, which increased inflation and weakened the dollar. Now they want to fix that mistake by increasing rates, but this cannot possibly work because rate hikes work only when people are scared of it. When you're in deep shit and people see it, they aren't scared, they expect you to pivot soon, so they won't suddenly start hoarding the dollar because you could turn on them at any moment, but if they keep spending you, the government are in trouble. At this point the US FED is compromised, no matter what happens.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: lizarder on April 08, 2023, 08:40:55 PM
Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.
Of course you don't have to completely agree with some of the ideas I want to convey, because as far as I know we are used to not being completely dependent on government policies. Even in terms of regulations, the government has the responsibility to provide guarantees for the welfare of its people. My question is how far can the government reach all levels of society? Did you know that most countries are currently experiencing almost the same problem, inflation and recession are problems facing the world, including the OP's country, you and me, depending on varying degrees of severity.

What can we do and what solutions are offered by the government? I believe that each country has its own way of managing this problem and the point is to find a solution to the problem at hand. The role of the individual is also very important to raise awareness of each other in finding solutions. If the presence of the government cannot fully cover basic needs, you can find solutions to meet these needs. One way might be to apply the following steps?

  • Utilizing vacant land to plant basic needs for life support, such as rice, vegetables or adapted to staple foods in their respective countries.
  • Take advantage of existing resources to meet all needs, even if the scope is small, at least for each individual led in the household.
  • Look for a special formula to get out of the problem of inflation and recession, don't think too far because the most important thing is the availability of opportunities for each individual's life.

Basically all problems have a solution to be solved, even though the scope is small or different, the presence of each individual is also seen as important to prevent the problem from becoming more complicated and the government will also take its role in solving this problem. If everyone is moving and according to their respective abilities, then I'm sure this problem will be resolved slowly. Developed countries and developing countries are indeed very different when viewed, but there are patterns that can be applied where the point is to find solutions and be able to overcome them.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: |MINER| on April 08, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
To sum it up, it has to be said that the war between Russia and Ukraine is largely responsible for the consequences of the entire world economy. However, it will also not be correct to blame this war only for the worse economic condition of another country. In many cases, those who are in the government management of that country can also be responsible because of their corruption system. And in order to remove this predicament, it is very necessary to keep the government management correct and free from corruption, as well as to play the effective role of the citizens.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: zaki12 on April 08, 2023, 08:48:15 PM
In my opinion, poverty occurs apart from the conflict between Ukraine and Russia because it has contributed to rising gas prices which have resulted in rising prices of basic commodities.  Poverty cannot be solved only by the efforts of one party, be it the government or the people. Collaborative and synergistic efforts from both parties are needed to achieve the goal of overcoming poverty.

Governments have an important role to play in expanding access to the resources and services needed to overcome poverty, such as access to education, health, clean water, sanitation, and decent jobs.  However, the people also have an important role in reducing poverty in society.

As people, we can contribute by helping people in need, such as providing financial support or taking part in volunteer programs that help reduce poverty and improve the social and economic conditions of society.  In addition, we can strengthen our own capacity by increasing education, skills and work experience to increase job opportunities and increase personal economic well-being.

In overcoming poverty, the roles of the people and the government are interrelated and mutually reinforcing one another.  By working together and contributing in our respective capacities, we can achieve the goals of overcoming poverty and improving the social and economic conditions of society as a whole.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on April 08, 2023, 09:12:14 PM
The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.

I concur with you that the government cannot eradicate poverty, but it can take some actions to lower the rate of poverty in the nation. I don't think many people will take their lives seriously if the government entirely eliminates poverty by providing for individuals' needs. Since the government can only support us through better economic conditions,standard education, good hospitals etc.it is now up to us to end poverty by working hard and find thing reasonable doing for survival.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Russlenat on April 08, 2023, 09:23:31 PM
The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 08, 2023, 09:58:25 PM
The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.
The government can only oblige to eradicate poverty but they can not do it alone, they still need the collaboration of international aid agencies and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to provide assistance that will eradicate poverty. Therefore people also need to create some that will increase job availability.



Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Kodok Bencot on April 09, 2023, 09:40:07 AM
Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 09, 2023, 02:38:37 PM
Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
Government can't do anything about poverty you yourself have to think about eradicating  it and solve it . In today's tough time where there is immense financial burden on everyone you have to work out your expenses , your earnings and spending.
Government can do 0.1% for your ease rest Is your problem.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 09, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


The population is increasing and government is unable to provide the jobs to all of them. Food is scare therefore its cost is increasing regularly so I think that government should take such step to make the condition of country better for living.

Government cannot keep eye on everyone and there are some people who just pretend that they are poor just to accumulate the things which government provides to the poor people. One mistake that government make is that they cannot reduces the price of things, i can understand that the country is facing difficulties in order to complete the necessaries of each and every individuals but by increasing cost the poor man only faces trouble, there is no benefit of increasing price for a country.

The poverty is enhances due to the increasing population so government should keep notice on increasing population and then do some proper work to increase the commodities that can subsequently distributed to everyone.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Joshapat on April 10, 2023, 09:22:40 AM
Of course, all countries have made their best efforts to get their citizens out of poverty, but all of these efforts will certainly not be 100% successful and poverty is still very high. This is what makes us think rationally. Too often blaming the state is a waste of time. keep trying our best so that we and our families are not poor.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: karmamiu on April 10, 2023, 12:40:18 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


The population is increasing and government is unable to provide the jobs to all of them. Food is scare therefore its cost is increasing regularly so I think that government should take such step to make the condition of country better for living.

Government cannot keep eye on everyone and there are some people who just pretend that they are poor just to accumulate the things which government provides to the poor people. One mistake that government make is that they cannot reduces the price of things, i can understand that the country is facing difficulties in order to complete the necessaries of each and every individuals but by increasing cost the poor man only faces trouble, there is no benefit of increasing price for a country.

The poverty is enhances due to the increasing population so government should keep notice on increasing population and then do some proper work to increase the commodities that can subsequently distributed to everyone.
You are not the only one who notices those problems in their respective countries. Even here, everyone is having a hard time searching for jobs alone, not only poor people can hardly participate on job fairs, even college graduates are having a hard time competing in this survival of the fittest economy. It takes a man to really have that strong mindset to change your life. Escaping poverty is not the government's responsibility, but providing opportunities are.

From poverty to achieving a decent amount of money, it is very hard to reach that point and you have to think as always that "you can never afford to lose".


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: concept2 on April 10, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Listen up, people love to play the blame game and be all like "ugh, government, why you gotta make everything so damn expensive?" But like, let's not be ignorant, the recent drama between Ukraine and Russia caused the price of gas and crude oil to go up, and that ain't the government's fault entirely. It's way more complicated, and we all gotta do our part.

Our society's gotten all sorts of addicted to non-renewable resources, like oil and gas. That shizz has caused all kinds of drama, from trashing the environment to making the global economy all wack. We gotta understand the bigger picture when it comes to gas prices, it ain't just Ukraine and Russia. There are all sorts of global economic and political forces at play, and if we educate ourselves, we can come up with better solutions than just blaming the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Obari on April 10, 2023, 03:08:07 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Well we ought to know that war is a major contributors to economic recession?.
I guess you do now and I really don't know why the recession last got so high last year but I know that the war between Russia and Ukraine was also a major factors as well.

Also on the long run, I think we also have a very big role to play when it come to poverty elimination because there is a saying that charity begins at home and most times I also don't have to blame the presidency for most poverty cases because there are public reading of the the country's expenditure and there are allocations for each state and constituency, so I believe we just ask our local government and state and federal representatives what's really going on.

I think we individuals aren't ready for the positive growth, hence were responsible for the most poverty cases.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: 19Nov16 on April 10, 2023, 03:35:22 PM
I don't think the country will be able to make us rich, poverty can disappear as long as we have the determination to be rich, there are many ways to get rich, starting from work or business, it is proven that many of the world's millionaires were once poor, but because they worked hard and were always optimistic they could become rich people .


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: iamsange on April 10, 2023, 05:26:25 PM
Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
It is natural that poverty will never disappear in this world because it is about everyone eliminating poverty on their own and when there is a comparison of the number of assets owned by one person with another, that is where it will be seen who is poor and who is rich. Because it will always be easier to measure when everyone knows how many assets he has and what other people have, it is clear in this case that poverty is very difficult to eradicate. Although each country also never stops trying to eradicate this so that all its citizens can live more comfortably and more decently because this is also the duty and effort of the state.

Government can't do anything about poverty you yourself have to think about eradicating  it and solve it . In today's tough time where there is immense financial burden on everyone you have to work out your expenses , your earnings and spending.
Government can do 0.1% for your ease rest Is your problem.
The government can only try to do good things to eradicate poverty. Because actually this is everyone's duty to keep themselves from being in poverty by continuing to make as much effort as possible, so everyone doesn't need to fully rely on the government to eradicate this. Even though this is also part of the government's duties, everyone also needs to think about this for himself without having to involve more people because this is the basic task of each individual.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Distinctin on April 10, 2023, 06:43:01 PM
Depending on us, they will only help a little to create jobs in various ways, one of which is bringing in foreign investors. The government is also only tasked with regulating the circulation of the local currency to prevent inflation. The government will also only regulate security and order for everyone who wants to run a business. So the main actors to end poverty are ourselves and the government is just the people behind the scenes.
True. The government will only provide opportunities and temporary security for us, it’s up to us how we will manage to take them and take advantage of the opportunities so that it will be profitable for us. If we can deal with them positively, probably it could lead us getting a job and secure the source of income, but if we turn them down, then opportunities will be gone forever and we will stay jobless and unproductive, which means poverty will be more prolong.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Semar Mesem on April 12, 2023, 04:33:38 AM
The duty of the state is to reduce poverty and make its citizens rich, there are many sources of income that can be obtained by the state to create prosperity, for example, there are very many natural products that if managed properly and without any corruption can make people prosperous.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: 19Nov16 on April 12, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
I think poverty depends on us, many government programs have been carried out but failed because residents cannot accept the program, as long as we do our best, for example from school to doing business, we can get out of poverty, unfortunately many people blame the government so much that they die poor .


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bettercrypto on April 12, 2023, 02:48:39 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 12, 2023, 03:26:50 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.


No its not like that poverty is not part of our life or only one single choice. The government is taking so many steps to give coming generations of education through New education policy because 100 Percent literacy rate can reduce poverty. Investing in infrastructure  and technology is also one of the best way to coming out from poverty and yes government is putting so much effort to make people skill through DDU-GKY where certificate issued by Government of India, 100 Percent job to all trainees after training as per government instructions.
ultimate effort from government is to put people from poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Tony116 on April 12, 2023, 04:02:15 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.

Create jobs, find ways to attract foreign investors, expand and improve education… all they do is want people to have a better life. Because once people get better, they can survive, the government and we have a resonance with each other.
Poverty alleviation doesn't mean that you just rely on the government to give you money and build a house for you, and you don't have to do anything. What they do is create opportunities, and whether you take them or not is up to you.

I used to question, why my childhood friends had the same starting point as me, but they were richer than me, it's not the government's fault that just helps them but doesn't help me. It's because I didn't try like my friend.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Baoo on April 12, 2023, 05:54:20 PM
Well, the countries with less rate of inflation and corruption have the lowest poverty percentage such as Luxembourg, Belgium, Sweden and  China who has the lowest poverty rate In fact, OP you cannot blame your country due to the negative effects of Russia/Ukraine war, that’s not under their control but they must find different solutions .Regrettably, the global world economy is facing a crisis because of this sudden war especially the poorest ones. Hopefully it will pass soon.

Moreover, poverty existed in all countries  and to be honest we cannot end it permanently due to practical matters However, we can reduce the rate by finding solutions , giving rights to all citizens equally and creating job opportunities. In my opinion, capitalists would not be wealthy if the poverty was not existed. The poor people always get the lowest salaries and make the hardest effort, they literally help rich people to build their own empire and get more wealthy.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on April 12, 2023, 06:12:23 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.

Create jobs, find ways to attract foreign investors, expand and improve education… all they do is want people to have a better life. Because once people get better, they can survive, the government and we have a resonance with each other.
Poverty alleviation doesn't mean that you just rely on the government to give you money and build a house for you, and you don't have to do anything. What they do is create opportunities, and whether you take them or not is up to you.

I used to question, why my childhood friends had the same starting point as me, but they were richer than me, it's not the government's fault that just helps them but doesn't help me. It's because I didn't try like my friend.
Yes government can facilitate you minimal by providing jib facilities or path to earn some money,  rest is in your hands to make the best out of all the possible opportunities in your life at right time . Job can only provide you a platform but your creativity and zeal can help you grow and move forward.
I personally prefer business over government jobs as in today's world where inflation is in everyone's lives only jibs cannot help you with your expenses.  You need to have some business to make extra money to live a comfortable life.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: abralzain17 on April 12, 2023, 11:41:37 PM
what people blame is government policy. If the government sided with the common people, I don't think there would be demonstrations everywhere.
but what we all need to know is, the government will not be able to end the poverty of its people, but the government at least opens up opportunities and makes it easier for whatever the people do to cover the economic needs of the community as long as what is done by the people does not conflict with norms and laws


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: jaberwock on April 14, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.
Create jobs, find ways to attract foreign investors, expand and improve education… all they do is want people to have a better life. Because once people get better, they can survive, the government and we have a resonance with each other.
Poverty alleviation doesn't mean that you just rely on the government to give you money and build a house for you, and you don't have to do anything. What they do is create opportunities, and whether you take them or not is up to you.

I used to question, why my childhood friends had the same starting point as me, but they were richer than me, it's not the government's fault that just helps them but doesn't help me. It's because I didn't try like my friend.
Let's be honest, if politicians wanted to make the nations a better place they would have easily done it. There are plenty of nations with politics that are basically like that and they just rule the nation as a great way.

You think Finland elected a young president because they thought she would be amazing? Of course not, the politics there is so set in stone and managed so well that it doesn't even matter who is the president, you can pick me or you to be president there and it would still go on to be great, you can literally put Trump in there and would be fine. Because there are legal reasons presidents can't ruin it and others would stop that easily in a day if you did something wrong.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Lubang Bawah on April 15, 2023, 04:18:30 AM
Poverty is something that is difficult to reduce let alone eliminate, various efforts have been made to overcome poverty, the main factors that can reduce poverty are increasing production and consumption, many countries find it easy to increase production but because there is no increase in consumption it will create inequality, besides that it requires investment so will make money flow faster.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: 19Nov16 on April 15, 2023, 02:46:32 PM
To be able to overcome poverty systematically, of course the role of the government is very important, many developed countries have made poverty a target to be resolved and many have succeeded, usually starting with a free and mandatory education system for all citizens to get free and best education, if education is already improve then the next step is to provide training and business capital so that everyone can earn money regularly.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bestcoins1 on April 15, 2023, 03:50:39 PM
what people blame is government policy. If the government sided with the common people, I don't think there would be demonstrations everywhere.
but what we all need to know is, the government will not be able to end the poverty of its people, but the government at least opens up opportunities and makes it easier for whatever the people do to cover the economic needs of the community as long as what is done by the people does not conflict with norms and laws
The government is not always to be blamed in this matter, because whoever sits in a government agency are people who have previously been tested and chosen by the people themselves to manage the country so that it becomes more prosperous and every citizen must also support every policy of the the government as long as it is for the prosperity of the country.

Because when citizens and the government blame each other, there will be no common ground to make the country more prosperous and even poverty will continue to increase endlessly. So it's good for every citizen to think wisely before blaming anyone in this matter because eradicating poverty is not an easy matter and can be done in a short time.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 15, 2023, 04:01:33 PM
The government pretty much has all the powers they can ever ask for to make the lives of their citizens better. I won't deny, discipline and hard work is still a good way for you to become successful, but if the country you live in doesn't give a damn about what you are going through, you'd die with your back bent on the ground.

1.Reform on land ownerships to make the farmer's life easier and so they don't have to live with dirt cheap wage for work that you wouldn't even think once of doing.
2.Education improvements to make sure that the youth is well-informed, especially in the fields of sex education and other important life aspects. Population boom wouldn't be a problem if the youth knows about everything there is to know about sex and reproduction.
3.Mitigation of corruption in all agencies of the government.
4.Bills and laws that prohibit job discriminations so qualified applicants can apply regardless of condition, educational attainment, or financial status.

All of these things will severely help the country, and it's not even the stuff that most people think. Nowadays people think of "government helping the poor" as the government outrightly giving the impoverished money. That's just weird and stupid.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: cydrix on April 15, 2023, 04:51:51 PM
If there are designated persons who will be responsible for making projects fit for local areas, the government will be able to assist by creating jobs and supporting organizations that aid the small individuals, such as farmers or in agriculture. The country could change if every dollar spent by the government went toward better enterprises. However, if the nation solely concentrates on making the wealthy the officials, then there is no hope for tiny people, and problems will continue to exist, leaving us on our own to deal with them.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Negotiation on April 16, 2023, 04:22:00 AM
Poverty is the biggest problem in a country most people in the world live below the poverty line. If the government wants to, it can create ways to eradicate poverty and also the rich people of the society can help the poor people to make them prosperous in society. The government is generally increasing the price of every item which makes the poor people more desperate as they cannot afford the things they need. The government should focus on the developed countries of the world and how to help poor people and improve them.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DoverDoane on April 16, 2023, 02:48:17 PM
poverty is part of our life so it can be a way for us whether you want to stay here or not? The government has nothing to do to help us get out of the poverty situation. The government may only provide assistance to its jurisdiction if there are calamities or disasters.

       In addition to that, the government is only there to support the citizens or provide programs such as housing, livelihood and others that they know will help the people under their jurisdiction.

Poverty and the factors that make it happen are so complex and the government's role in overcoming it will never be completed, for example the government provides financial assistance such as money for some poor people, even though the distribution is sometimes uneven, there are those who want to get it too, then the question is what is it? can reduce poverty? Then the answer is no. The problem of poverty is so difficult to solve, especially in a developing country with the highest population in the world, this problem will remain a topic for quite a long time, unless humans begin to change and increase their self-worth and intelligence to get out of that circle. if people can change and get higher education from government assistance, then gradually the human resources will increase and the poverty rate can decrease.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Alphakilo on April 17, 2023, 10:54:32 AM
It is the duty of the government to provide job opportunities for her citizens because it is still the citizens that voted the government into power, but that does not necessary  mean that you as a citizen will sit and fold your hands and wait for the government to call you for a job.
Even when you are uneducated maybe due to financial issues, you can still learn a skill to sustain your self while you wait for government work. There are thousands of skills you can learn to make a living rather that depending on the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: gabbie2010 on April 17, 2023, 03:07:49 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Though some of those problems is beyond government control just like the effect of Ukraine vs Russia war whose impact has a devastating effect on many economies of the world, however it's up to any responsible government to cushion the effect on their citizens by a way of seeking alternative means as soon as possible just like in the absence of gas there are woods and charcoal as alternative source of energy which can power electricity or  provide other source of wheat importation to ameliorate the suffering of people thus those actions by the government would stop any form of protest or rallies embarked by those people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on April 17, 2023, 03:47:06 PM
what people blame is government policy. If the government sided with the common people, I don't think there would be demonstrations everywhere.
but what we all need to know is, the government will not be able to end the poverty of its people, but the government at least opens up opportunities and makes it easier for whatever the people do to cover the economic needs of the community as long as what is done by the people does not conflict with norms and laws
Correctly. And in the end about who can change our circumstances, especially in financial terms, it depends on ourselves. They government does have an important contribution in the order of a country and the security of a country, maintaining order and upholding the law. they also contribute in making efforts to increase the utilization of human resources by creating jobs. but what often becomes a problem is the existence of a situation that does not really favor the grassroots. So I feel quite understandable to the residents who staged demonstrations in voicing their protests to the government. because all people in a country must receive the same type of service. there should not be a situation that discriminates between the lower class and the upper class. but even so, each individual must still be aware that he cannot blame anyone for their respective financial circumstances. we have to work hard and continue to build our financial situation to a better level with our own hands.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: ajiz138 on April 17, 2023, 04:00:54 PM
Poverty is the biggest problem in a country most people in the world live below the poverty line. If the government wants to, it can create ways to eradicate poverty and also the rich people of the society can help the poor people to make them prosperous in society. The government is generally increasing the price of every item which makes the poor people more desperate as they cannot afford the things they need. The government should focus on the developed countries of the world and how to help poor people and improve them.
The poverty line is still very difficult to overcome because even though we have made efforts to provide welfare opportunities, there are still some government policies that oppose it, we can see how the aspirations of the common people with their demands, but all of this cannot be taken seriously, even problems like this often overlooked because the government now times prioritizes the rich for their own interests, among others, is where they can manage everything.

The rich help the poor maybe a lot but it won't be a good solution unless the government itself can handle it, but the most important thing is where to create job opportunities for them to be able to produce and that's most important, about food that is soaring and not it is undeniable that behind all that the government cannot prevent what the common people suffer.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: cafee_orange on April 17, 2023, 05:54:51 PM
one's poverty and wealth should have nothing to do with the government of a country.
In my opinion, there is no government that is able to make its people live rich without the awareness of the person concerned to be active in working, the same goes for someone who is poor, the government cannot change the fate of the poor, so what is the role of the government? the government's role in this case is to only be able to prosper its people by creating jobs so they don't always complain and blame the government. I think like that


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: coupable on April 17, 2023, 06:11:40 PM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Unbunplease on April 17, 2023, 11:35:50 PM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Poker Player on April 18, 2023, 03:56:38 AM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

You have remained in the 19th century, in Marx's ideas. What is this bourgeoisie? In Marx's time you could not earn money with signature campaigns comfortably from your computer as you are doing. The difference in Marx's time between the working class and the upper class was that the working class depended exclusively on their labor to earn money while the bourgeoisie and the upper class had financial assets that provided them with income. Today that is much more blurred, as you yourselves have Bitcoin, which is a financial asset, you can buy stocks and mutual funds from your cell phone for as little as $10 the standard of living for a worker has risen enormously in these 200+ years.

But you guys keep on with your victim mentality and I'm sure you'll do just fine.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: coupable on April 18, 2023, 11:00:16 PM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

You have remained in the 19th century, in Marx's ideas. What is this bourgeoisie? In Marx's time you could not earn money with signature campaigns comfortably from your computer as you are doing. The difference in Marx's time between the working class and the upper class was that the working class depended exclusively on their labor to earn money while the bourgeoisie and the upper class had financial assets that provided them with income. Today that is much more blurred, as you yourselves have Bitcoin, which is a financial asset, you can buy stocks and mutual funds from your cell phone for as little as $10 the standard of living for a worker has risen enormously in these 200+ years.

The difference is not great between what is happening today and what was happening in the 19th century, since the economic system has not changed in anything except that it has evolved.  When you work on the Internet using your phone, you do not belong to the bourgeoisie, and you are not in the working class, since you run your own business.  This is called the middle class by the concepts of our time and Marxism calls it the petty bourgeoisie, and it is a privileged class compared to the working class and has the opportunity to join the bourgeoisie.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: axxo on May 09, 2023, 02:47:46 AM
Ending poverty it requires collective effort from both the individuals and government. The government is the one who implements and legalize the policies, laws and programs to reduce poverty and they are responsible in providing assistance to those who are in need. It is also depends on the choices and actions of each and every individuals to improve their life situation. To end poverty it requires full effort and change of individuals to their own lives.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Argoo on June 12, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
Ending poverty it requires collective effort from both the individuals and government. The government is the one who implements and legalize the policies, laws and programs to reduce poverty and they are responsible in providing assistance to those who are in need. It is also depends on the choices and actions of each and every individuals to improve their life situation. To end poverty it requires full effort and change of individuals to their own lives.
I fully agree with your opinion. But the level of prosperity and poverty in a particular country also depends on the general state of the world economy and other factors, such as the presence of military and other military conflicts, natural disasters and man-made disasters, and recently also on the speed of climate change on our planet. These and other similar factors greatly influence the result of the common efforts of the people and the government to improve the standard of living in the country.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Velemir Sava on June 12, 2023, 04:39:58 PM
what people blame is government policy. If the government sided with the common people, I don't think there would be demonstrations everywhere.
but what we all need to know is, the government will not be able to end the poverty of its people, but the government at least opens up opportunities and makes it easier for whatever the people do to cover the economic needs of the community as long as what is done by the people does not conflict with norms and laws

While it may be true that individual efforts are important in overcoming poverty, it is also important here to acknowledge the role of government in addressing this problem when relying solely on individual efforts may not be sufficient to address the systemic problems and structural inequalities that contribute to poverty. .

Admittedly or not, the government also opens up opportunities and has the responsibility to create and implement policies and programs aimed at reducing poverty and improving the welfare of its citizens as a whole, for example social safety nets, access to education, health services, and employment opportunities, meaning that there are efforts more than government can significantly reduce poverty and create a more just society.

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Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: tjtonmoy on June 12, 2023, 05:12:51 PM
Government plays an important role in this, but it also depends on us. How we take approach in this kind of situation plays a major role. Inflation will happen no matter what, so instead of preventing it, we need to be prepared for it. So that the effect is less in our life. We can not stop inflation because it could happen by any uncertain events.
So, creating a favorable business environment will help people to find more opportunities to make a good living. But it will take combined effort from the government and individual peoples. Both working together can help reduce the amount of poverty by fighting the inflation and prepare for the time when it will come. Individual effort to make our life better will only help us, not everyone. People are lacking opportunity to grow. So, government can help in this scenario to create more opportunities, but we need to take that opportunity to make our life better and also help others. There's a saying that goes like this, "Help yourself, in that process you will help others".


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: mm2543363580 on June 12, 2023, 07:38:41 PM
Government can provide with you with some initiative but that totally depend on you how you avail it ,ending poverty is your decision and hardwork. And most of all your determination is everything that's required to end poverty .
You cannot rely on government to do something on this topic.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: CryptoSlater on June 12, 2023, 07:48:51 PM
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Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Mahanton on June 12, 2023, 08:28:35 PM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

You have remained in the 19th century, in Marx's ideas. What is this bourgeoisie? In Marx's time you could not earn money with signature campaigns comfortably from your computer as you are doing. The difference in Marx's time between the working class and the upper class was that the working class depended exclusively on their labor to earn money while the bourgeoisie and the upper class had financial assets that provided them with income. Today that is much more blurred, as you yourselves have Bitcoin, which is a financial asset, you can buy stocks and mutual funds from your cell phone for as little as $10 the standard of living for a worker has risen enormously in these 200+ years.

The difference is not great between what is happening today and what was happening in the 19th century, since the economic system has not changed in anything except that it has evolved.  When you work on the Internet using your phone, you do not belong to the bourgeoisie, and you are not in the working class, since you run your own business.  This is called the middle class by the concepts of our time and Marxism calls it the petty bourgeoisie, and it is a privileged class compared to the working class and has the opportunity to join the bourgeoisie.
Year by year, inflation do becomes worst and it would be something inevitable into the future on which it would really be just that right that you should really be finding other ways for you to have other source of income on which on the time that inflation becomes worst then you could be able to survive somewhat and this is the primary thing that you should really be having in mind so that you would really be able to
survive on whatever financial difficulties on which  you would really be able to encounter in future years. Dont make yourself that getting relying on government about providing on something like having a job
or some necessity kind of supply or support which we know that it would really be just temporal on this case.

Poverty is something a global problem that we do have in the world today on which certain places does have different levels of it and the government which are trying out to solve it out but its not
something that could be resolved or wiped out since we know that population do becomes big and it would be normal that having tons of people requires or does need lots of jobs
and if there's lacking of it then this is where unemployment bloats out.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Crypto Library on June 12, 2023, 08:37:57 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
To alleviate poverty or to make a country economically self-sufficient, the people of that country contribute just as much as the government of that country contributes. So it depends both of us and the government.
The government is engaged in voting by us, the government mainly conducts leadership activities such as guiding various directions, making laws, implementing laws, etc. And after the government formulates this law, we need our help to implement it, if we do not behave like good citizens, do not follow the laws of the country, and condone corruption, then the development of the country will be hindered. So our efficiency plus respect for the law, as well as the corruption-free head of government of that country, play a role in a country's economic development or poverty alleviation.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on June 12, 2023, 08:44:46 PM
I'll respond to your topic before I read what you have to said. Yes, governments are in charge of combating poverty by providing citizens with jobs that they can rely on to survive. In my opinion, if someone has a job, he will never be completely without anything; even if the pay is meager, it is better than continuing to be jobless.

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses

People need to complain about that because government is the only solution to their problem. However, if the salary is plenty I believe poverty will not be too much of a problem, but when someone is collecting a little amount of money, how do you think they will survive without taking loans? You know, even taking loans can be a course of action, but as a salary earner, they also have family at home to feed, and if the money is very small, there is no way to reach out to meet their needs.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Ebede on June 12, 2023, 08:45:26 PM
Government can end poverty if they really want to do it, there are several ways government can do this and is by creating enabling environment for investors to come in for business, we should know that Government do not have sufficient jobs for their citizens, the creation of jobs is been done through government and private partnership either by training citizens on skills and after they acquire the skills the have to be given loan or establishment funds to set them on the right track as so doing poverty will be eradicated to a particular level not totally.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on June 12, 2023, 08:52:11 PM
I have read many comments on this topic from different pages and noticed that many concepts are vague for many. All economists recognize that the capitalist system cannot continue without the existence of a poor class to replace the tools of production in jobs that machines cannot do.
In fact, it is an impoverished class. The owners of the bourgeois class will seek to preserve it in the same miserable conditions of doing business. The poor are part of the economic cycle in the capitalist system. Therefore, we find assistance programs for the poor, and we do not find programs to eradicate poverty, because it is simply not possible in the current world system. Even with the development of machinery and automatic industries, this increases the number of poor people who will be compensated by the machine.

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

You are mistaken!
Or rather, you are partially mistaken. Let me explain.
In the capitalist DEVELOPED world, the middle class is very important. It is a CLIENT class that buys and consumes the products and services of producers. And if, for example, the middle class collapses in the U.S. right now, it will really become a tragedy for the U.S. economy.
As you know, in a balanced, quality economy, its life cycle requires a constant circulation of money. More precisely, a chain of money-goods-services-money. And accordingly, the poor population destroys this chain. No consumption - no production and sales, no production and sales - no profit and income companies ...
But what you said, is 100% consistent with countries with underdeveloped economies and backward development in general. There it is profitable to force people to work for a penny, creating products and services with a very low cost (at the expense of almost free labor). At the same time there is still consumption. And the goods with close to zero production cost, consumed by the population at a low price - will still bring more profit to the local "rulers".


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on June 12, 2023, 09:26:10 PM
Government can provide with you with some initiative but that totally depend on you how you avail it ,ending poverty is your decision and hardwork. And most of all your determination is everything that's required to end poverty .
You cannot rely on government to do something on this topic.
That's right because in the end it is us who have to try to change the circumstances of our life to be better and better. The government only has a duty to facilitate us. but in the end it will depend on us.

even if for example we are given a salary by the government or given capital by the government to build an independent business. now if we are not good at using the capital money or we are not able to build a business with the capital money then of course we will still not succeed in changing our life circumstances. the point is everything starts and must start from ourselves.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: coupable on June 12, 2023, 09:32:00 PM
Let's admit that a truly balanced and quality economy must prioritize the needs and well being of all its citizens, not just those in the middle and upper classes.
I totally agree with the opinion that the middle class plays an important role in the economy, as a healthy economy requires a diverse range of consumers among all income levels. However, it is important to note that focusing on the middle class only may ignores the purchasing power of lower income classes, whom we can't deny their contribution to the circulation of money in the economy. The idea that poverty destroys the chain of structural is flawed, as lower income class often spend a higher percentage of their income on essential needs (goods and services). Furthermore, the view point that underdeveloped economies rely on cheap labor and low cost goods is a gross oversimplification that ignores the complex factors at play in these situations.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Kelvinid on June 12, 2023, 09:45:52 PM
The government builds opportunities to help their people to make a living and survive but if we talk about ending poverty, we can't just rely on them solely, we also have to help ourselves to grow and increase our finances because it was the not government's responsibility. But I couldn't blame some people for questioning how their leaders respond to the needs of their citizens, some corrupt leaders won't see how to help them instead, they are prioritizing themselves to benefit the money from the people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: erep on June 13, 2023, 05:27:09 AM
The government builds opportunities to help their people to make a living and survive but if we talk about ending poverty, we can't just rely on them solely, we also have to help ourselves to grow and increase our finances because it was the not government's responsibility.
The government cannot reduce poverty for one period but it takes time to implement several new strategies to reduce poverty in the annual term, the annual strategy must ensure that it can reduce poverty to reach the target of 5-10% of data poverty and the government can plan business capital strategies for the majority of people to develop business so that the government's program to end poverty will be realized quickly.

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But I couldn't blame some people for questioning how their leaders respond to the needs of their citizens, some corrupt leaders won't see how to help them instead, they are prioritizing themselves to benefit the money from the people.
The corrupt leader did not have a program for people's welfare during his leadership era because their program focused on trimming the state treasury budget to divert personal cash accounts with sneaky tricks without the corruption investigation agency knowing. Countries with corrupt leaders will never progress under any circumstances, be wise in choosing leaders in the next period and assess them according to their perspective without persuasion from anyone, assess their achievements and educational history.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bluebit25 on June 13, 2023, 05:35:52 AM
Rising prices and economic hardship for individuals can have many different causes, among them the effects of global events such as the Ukraine and Russia wars as you mentioned. However, the tension between the two countries is only one of the causes of price impact and economic hardship for individuals. The government often has policies and measures to help alleviate economic hardship for people, including social insurance programs, unemployment benefits, or incentives for businesses to develop to create jobs. do for the people. However, solving the problem of poverty reduction depends on both the government and the social community. The government can provide supporting policies and programs, but it also requires the participation and support of civil society organisations, volunteers, and community representatives to achieve this goal.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: HajiBagi on June 13, 2023, 07:41:59 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Currently, the government does not consider the needs of the populace; instead, they just consider what would fill their pockets and allow them to enjoy time with their families. People chose the government to safeguard their lives and provide for their needs but government never thinks of that. High prices of goods and salaries are the most common items that create protests these days in many countries, and the government is doing nothing about it.
What I'm trying to say is that the government isn't doing anything to end poverty because so many graduates aren't finding work, the government has devalued education these days, and so many young people are suffering and accusing education of being a fraud. It would be better if we didn't rely on the government.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Bitcoin2009 on June 13, 2023, 03:14:16 PM
Poverty is a part that will never disappear from the world, poverty is like night because it is impossible for the day to change without changing the night, all efforts made by the government or anyone will never end poverty, besides that poverty is what drives life, meaning that almost all jobs in this world is done by poor people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Mario Yamasaki on June 14, 2023, 04:46:25 AM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Gulttam2a2 on June 14, 2023, 07:10:36 AM
Government which controls the whole country. People of a country have to depend on the government. Poverty of every country depends on the government of that country. How they manage the country is also a matter of looking at how they manage the people of their country. Poverty sometimes depends on the people. Currently. People spending more than what they earn can also be the root cause of poverty. If the government and people take a decision together then I think poverty will be removed. Government and people can also be difficult to reconcile because there are countries that do not follow the government. In this case both sides are at fault. So according to me poverty depends on government and people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: khiholangkang on June 14, 2023, 07:38:41 AM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
But basically the government that controls and makes infrastructure improved capabilities, and or makes policies about the world of economy and education, in the big catalyst the government has an important role to develop the country for the better.
Suppose if the government builds education with high teacher competencies, what is produced is an intelligent and smart student, we can see what Japan is doing when losing from the allies, their country is destroyed, then the government there gather teachers to educate their nation's children, And raise the degree of teacher from everything, so they give birth to an intelligent generation who has the ability to solve problems in the economy.
Even though that consciousness is returned to yourself, but many people also need to be aware and guided so that it is not possible to throw the responsibility to the community again.


Government which controls the whole country. People of a country have to depend on the government. Poverty of every country depends on the government of that country. How they manage the country is also a matter of looking at how they manage the people of their country. Poverty sometimes depends on the people. Currently. People spending more than what they earn can also be the root cause of poverty. If the government and people take a decision together then I think poverty will be removed. Government and people can also be difficult to reconcile because there are countries that do not follow the government. In this case both sides are at fault. So according to me poverty depends on government and people.
In other words the government must provide facilities and infrastructure for the community to develop their abilities, as well as making jobs so as to cause financial management awareness, it is true that poverty is back to the government and its people, but the government is the vocal of any activity, for example in land maintenance, for example In your country you have government -owned land that can be utilized to carry out economic activities, the government should provide easy access to the people who want to do economic activities assisted by giving free land or renting smaller than.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Sayeds56 on June 14, 2023, 08:16:42 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 14, 2023, 08:32:37 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.

It is completely difficult to, like, zero out poverty, but if the government can generate more jobs coming from investors, then it could be lessened. But again, even the most rich countries like the US and UK can't end poverty, but they really support those people who are living in poverty. Our ecosystem is really balanced; if there is no poverty, we can say our ecosystem is good, but again, our manpower will be reduced at that time for sure, as others wouldn't do those jobs.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Etranger on June 14, 2023, 09:38:47 AM
I believe poverty is a complex issue and it can not be eradicated solely by governments without active participation of general public. However, it is the responsibility of the governments to create an environment which is attractive for foreign and local investment, establish institutions equipped with modern technologies to empower to educate youth, and use latest technologies to enhance agricultural and industrial products.

General public or, I prefer to call it civil society is an integral driving force of pictorial changes. It is hardly worth shifting the responsibility for solving such global issues as ending poverty to governments alone. After all, governments are elected by people, citizens, who should understand at least some options, ways of solving such issues. Otherwise, they will elect people to the government who also do not understand this and will not be able to take the steps necessary to create better living conditions for their voters.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on June 14, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
As unpleasant as it is to realize, the causes of poverty are WE!
We don't want to learn and develop. We - want to receive welfare and social assistance from the state, but we don't want to pay taxes.
We elect populists, tyrants, idiots and thieves to power. We, when we see the crime, we pass by pretending not to notice it. We live only for today, without thinking about the future. We are the state! All our questions are to ourselves! Everything that happens is our action or inaction.

Until we realize this, until we understand our responsibility to ourselves, our country and our neighbors - everything will go on like this ...


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Sayeds56 on June 14, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
General public or, I prefer to call it civil society is an integral driving force of pictorial changes. It is hardly worth shifting the responsibility for solving such global issues as ending poverty to governments alone. After all, governments are elected by people, citizens, who should understand at least some options, ways of solving such issues. Otherwise, they will elect people to the government who also do not understand this and will not be able to take the steps necessary to create better living conditions for their voters.

Indeed, by actively involving citizens, governments can benefit from diverse ideas, grassroot initiatives and different perspectives, that may not have originated within the government itself. Civil societies organization can contribute valuable expertise, resources and advocacy efforts to address issue of poverty.
In summary, an informed and engaged society is crucial for ensuring that governments prioritize these issue and take appropriate actions to tackle them.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Alpha Marine on June 14, 2023, 08:50:52 PM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Lanatsa on June 14, 2023, 09:43:53 PM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.
We could make out those comparison if we do really speak about in between countries on how their government do make out such handling of their citizens on which most of them does allocate budget on each sector and doesnt really left behind or to make some balance just for its citizens to have that opportunity or simply in beneficial means but of course not everything would really be depending on the governments doing or responsibility but also towards yourself too.

If you do see that there's something lacking then it would really be just that right that you would be finding for other alternatives or ways for you to improve. We know that we cant really have everything
on which there's always that something that would be missing out. If you do see this one would really be a hindrance then it would really be just that right that you should avoid
and if ever you do see its beneficial then it would be common sensibly that you would really be engaging into it.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 14, 2023, 10:26:16 PM
What I can say is that the government has a role to play, and the individual has a role to play too.

I will give an instance: imagine a country where the government provides every opportunity to help the youth and the children, like providing a technical institute where the young people could learn any skill of their choice. programming, robotics, crafts, construction work, etc. At least if any young person can obtain such skills, even if they have graduated from a higher institution and there is no well-paying white collar job available at that moment, they can be doing their skill work and earning a living out of it. They could save the money they are making, invest it, reinvest, and before they know it, they have a big company or booming business. But there are also some citizens who would not have any interest in learning or stressing themselves for any reason. That was the reason I said the government has a role to play while the individual also has a role to play.

I know in some first-world countries, the example I gave is not an issue for them because they have all the best technology institutes and their government also has good ways of catering to the citizens, but in some third-world countries, it's not like that. So, if it's in a country where the government are not really trying, it also becomes very difficult for an individual to totally eliminate poverty in their life because they are not getting the support they should have.

Another instance I want to give is, let's say, someone has a business idea and needs some funds, particularly a government grant. In some third-world country, it's very difficult to get such grants because you will sign a lot of papers and even get tired of moving from one desk to another. In such a situation, the person can just give up.

But let's just know that we have a role to play, and the government also has one to play. If the government is not helping matters, it's wise to always keep striving harder to make it; the worst decision is to give up.

Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Sayeds56 on June 15, 2023, 08:08:41 AM
I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

Indeed, it is undeniable that correlation exists between poverty and wealth within an economic system. However there are numerous wealthy individuals who actively engage in social works and make substantial contribution for humanitarian causes all over the world. An exemplary figure is Bill Gates who has dedicated significant portion of his wealth to supporting those who desperately need it.

In summary, both the poor and the wealthy are integral part of our society, we need to make efforts to create an environment, that safeguards interests of both groups..


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 15, 2023, 09:25:55 AM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.

This is like now that there are a ton of graduates but they can't find a job because there are no job openings since we came from the pandemic and the businesses are just starting out. It should be a balance; providing education for free is good, but also generating more jobs is also good, but the pay is also reasonable because there are a ton of people now going abroad and venturing there because the pay is low, like the nurses here, which leads to them going abroad, and the country right now is needing more nurses, but they don't prefer here in our country because of the pay.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: AicecreaME on June 16, 2023, 04:15:07 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

You can't blame those people, because those politicians did a promise to them but most of time are always been neglected if they are already seated. Government is the one who should act first whenever there's a crisis going on to their country, if they really care, because people doesn't have the power to move their country, only the government does. Though, what's always happening is that the government wants are always the priority, so the country always end up suffering from their lack of proper governance and doing their job.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: robattfield on June 16, 2023, 05:30:58 AM
This is a common problem not of any one party, poverty reduction is a complex issue and cannot be solved by just one government or one person. That depends on the contributions of all parties, from the government, businesses and the community. The government is responsible for making policies and programs to reduce poverty, create job opportunities and increase people's income. However, it also requires collaboration with organizations and businesses to bring about greater impact.

Regarding the situation in your country, rising basic demand prices can be influenced by many factors, including the wars in Ukraine and Russia. However, to solve this problem, a certain strategy is needed to increase production and bring to market more products, improve skills and enhance the competitiveness of enterprises in the market. The government also needs to create a more favorable investment environment to attract domestic and foreign investment. Blaming the government or any group does not solve the problem. Instead, we need to find ways to cooperate and come up with effective solutions to reduce poverty and improve people's lives.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Etranger on June 16, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
Blaming the government or any group does not solve the problem. Instead, we need to find ways to cooperate and come up with effective solutions to reduce poverty and improve people's lives.

The problem is that there are parties that are interested in keeping poverty in the world. In order not to go far, we can remember that we live in a consumer society that cultivates and exalts the acquisition of as many goods as possible, their replacement with new models and constant updating. In order for these goods to be produced in such a huge quantity, it is necessary that it is profitable for the producer. And the greatest percentage of profit is obtained when the cost of producing a product, especially labor, is as low as possible. Cheap labor in countries with weak economies is the basis of the modern consumer society. Now the question arises: are all parties, including governments, civil organisations, the population itself, ready to join forces and cooperate to contribute to the elimination of poverty in the world, if this requires abandoning their usual and comfortable way of life?


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: nesty on July 05, 2023, 12:38:27 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think the government should provide the support through polices and programs to be able to reduce poverty rates like social welfare programs and the likes. Also the government is the one who mandates the minimum salary rates in a given country as well as the retail price of basic commodities. If the government would evaluate the current situations of the people they can upgrade the minimum wage and also to regulate the prices of basic commodities. But of course we as individuals if the government is slow in acting upon the needs of the people we should find other means to be able to survive poverty because if we will just wait for the government our lives will not move forward.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: uswa56 on July 05, 2023, 05:46:41 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think the government should provide the support through polices and programs to be able to reduce poverty rates like social welfare programs and the likes. Also the government is the one who mandates the minimum salary rates in a given country as well as the retail price of basic commodities. If the government would evaluate the current situations of the people they can upgrade the minimum wage and also to regulate the prices of basic commodities. But of course we as individuals if the government is slow in acting upon the needs of the people we should find other means to be able to survive poverty because if we will just wait for the government our lives will not move forward.
Of course the government in every country thinks about this, but it's not easy, maybe only a few people are corrupt and think of themselves so that many obstacles occur, but basically I believe the government really cares about its people to reduce poverty.
However, the common people also cannot fully rely on the government, there must be synchronization to get out of the poverty line by trying and also efforts to make policies from the government that favors the small people to be able to minimize poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Patrol69 on July 05, 2023, 06:04:32 AM
This is not only the case in your country, considering the current situation, the same situation prevails in most of the developing countries. Not only the increase in the price of oil, but also the price of all the daily necessities have been increased a lot. In our country the price of fuel oil has increased, the price of edible oil has increased, the price of various spices has increased several times, the price of new mobile phones has increased, the price of clothes has increased, the price of electricity has increased. In the situation then how people are living now according to the previous market rate salary. I have seen news in different countries that the opposition parties and people are doing a lot of agitation to bring down the government because everything is now beyond the purchasing power of the people. When the government is asked about this, they give a simple answer that oil is imported from foreign countries, the price of oil in foreign countries has increased, so the price of oil in our country is high.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: SmartCharpa on July 05, 2023, 06:45:26 AM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
I haven't noticed anything wrong with governments when we blame them for the state of the economy in the nation. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable for it, and it is also their responsibility to take care of the country. While I agree that not everyone will be able to escape poverty, if most governments are unable to provide jobs for educated youth, how do you suppose that sort of nation won't be holding them accountable? It's okay for citizens to criticize the government, but we shouldn't depend on them. Having a second source of income is the best plan of getting out of poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Ever-young on July 05, 2023, 12:49:03 PM
I believe the both the government and it's citizen have their own role to play in other to reduce poverty in their country.
The government will first of all make provision for good infrastructure, which includes medical facilities, educational center, good road and all of that. When at least this above is being made available by the government, the country be a center of attraction for investor and immigrants. If the citizens are to start something on their own like a private business and all of that, there will be people around to patronize their small business which will help it grow to the next level, and when their is an increase in demand then entrepreneurs can make room for employment which will help uplift few people from unemployment and at thesame time it has pull few people from poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Wend on July 05, 2023, 08:50:30 PM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
I haven't noticed anything wrong with governments when we blame them for the state of the economy in the nation. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable for it, and it is also their responsibility to take care of the country. While I agree that not everyone will be able to escape poverty, if most governments are unable to provide jobs for educated youth, how do you suppose that sort of nation won't be holding them accountable? It's okay for citizens to criticize the government, but we shouldn't depend on them. Having a second source of income is the best plan of getting out of poverty.
The government plays an important role in poverty alleviation, and if a country has a high poverty rate, it is the government's fault. But we shouldn't blame them entirely either, if you're poor because you're lazy, you can't blame the government for not helping you. The government will provide jobs and opportunities, but you need to grab it fast, you can't expect them to come and teach you how to make money in detail.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on July 05, 2023, 09:31:48 PM
I believe the both the government and it's citizen have their own role to play in other to reduce poverty in their country.
The government will first of all make provision for good infrastructure, which includes medical facilities, educational center, good road and all of that. When at least this above is being made available by the government, the country be a center of attraction for investor and immigrants. If the citizens are to start something on their own like a private business and all of that, there will be people around to patronize their small business which will help it grow to the next level, and when their is an increase in demand then entrepreneurs can make room for employment which will help uplift few people from unemployment and at thesame time it has pull few people from poverty.
Government and citizens do have their respective roles in this matter. And it is true that if the Government provides good facilities for its citizens then this can also encourage its citizens to escape poverty. For example, if a country focuses on advancing the natural tourism sector in its country. then residents around the tourism area will indeed be helped economically. because residents can open businesses in the tourism sector. and even opening a shop near the tourism sector can give shop owners multiple advantages. because in tourism areas we can already see that the price of necessities sold in shops is always much more expensive than in places far from tourist spots.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: lalabotax on July 05, 2023, 09:46:49 PM
I'm not really sure if the country can end poverty in the country, if it can, there should be no poverty now.
Well, maybe in certain countries, this is possible, countries that just have a smaller population than they should, countries that are already very developed, and have good resources.
However, for countries that are still developing or lacking, this will be very difficult and may not be possible. what they can do is help their people live better and more decently, by providing sufficient employment opportunities with appropriate salaries. but the reality is that up to now, not everything can be fulfilled and it is the people themselves who have to work alone and support themselves to survive. Moreover, if there are many corruptors in that country, then this will be impossible to do.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Franctoshi on July 05, 2023, 10:07:46 PM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Quidat on July 05, 2023, 10:50:13 PM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
Citizens should realize this on which poverty is a global problem on which it isnt something that could be solved out easily.Therefore, it would really be just that wise that you should really be that sensible
on taking your own step on making yourself way more progressive rather than on relying yourself on what the government do really provide on because in overall situation that we are facing specially that inflation then it is something that makes our life even more struggling and difficult. This is why it would really be wise that you should really be that mindful about finding other income source aside from your day job. Invest if possible and make business to make your living way more better since you are generating other source of income. Even myself dont mind about governments actions or opportunity that they are giving but rather going solo on what are possible options that i could take.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on July 05, 2023, 11:21:54 PM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
Well that's right. We are individually responsible for our own lives. But in general then all have their respective roles. And the government is not a determinant that can make people rich. But if the government can manage the country's natural resources and distribute the profits to all public facilities such as free schools, free health care and various other conveniences for its citizens. Even like in Arab countries where it is said that even school children there are given pocket money from the government. So, if the government is like that and is also honest with the people, then I think the people will be helped to more easily improve their standard of living. As in Arab countries that are fertile with petroleum. we see that there are many rich people there. because there the government really pays attention to the interests of its people. and the level of corruption is not high in that country.

because usually the level of corruption in a country is very high, it can be seen from the declining welfare of its people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: loopes on July 05, 2023, 11:23:02 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Actually, it is not only in your country. I am sure that this case is happen in the many countries, including of mine. So, all effort from the goverment of any country to resolve proverty will not effectively worked if the society do not support it. Both of these party should have to move together for the changes.
You can see how the japan' s goverment and their citizens support each other to get better life massively, any country should look up to the japan' s goverment and their citizen.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: nesty on July 07, 2023, 06:19:39 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

It depends on the country. There are countries that very rich that can sustain the needs of their people, If a country is rich they could possibly end poverty. But if the country belong to a third world countries, the government will not be able to end up poverty it would be harder for them because the income of the government is not sufficient to cover up the needs of its people. Some of the reasons are the continuous growth of the population, the high prices of the necessities needed by the people because of the inflation. For the third world countries it is much better if the people and government will help hand and in hand to be able to end poverty even little by little.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: SaveOurSea on July 07, 2023, 07:27:49 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Actually, it is not only in your country. I am sure that this case is happen in the many countries, including of mine. So, all effort from the goverment of any country to resolve proverty will not effectively worked if the society do not support it. Both of these party should have to move together for the changes.
You can see how the japan' s goverment and their citizens support each other to get better life massively, any country should look up to the japan' s goverment and their citizen.
It's true that we can't just rely on the government without the support of the people,
a program or policy will run well if each party can support each other,
besides that poverty is also not a problem that can be handled easily.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on July 07, 2023, 07:52:41 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think, everything you convey has its own position. Yes. War only leaves the less good and endless. But, if you just keep blaming the government it feels less ethical. at least there are independent efforts from us to also take responsibility as citizens to actively participate, seek opportunities, and support the government's efforts for economic growth and per capita income later.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Cheema02 on September 19, 2023, 11:55:11 AM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
Poverty is a big problem of every country. In East Asian countries, poverty ratio is greater than in West countries. Poverty can be end by education.In East countries, there is no awareness, there is illiteracy and people give birth to more child than they afford. If organizations will organize seminars then poverty ratio will be minimum. Poverty is created by people own. If people will think that we have these resources and we have to  educate those people who we have, then their decisions will be better and they will contribute in economy of country. If public will be happy, government will be also happy. Public should give skills to child, in this way they will be successful in life if they will have working habits. Habits decides the future, they will be mature at early age and will take decisions correctly. When they will sit in the company of businessman they will become a business.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Etranger on September 19, 2023, 12:21:21 PM
Poverty is a big problem of every country. In East Asian countries, poverty ratio is greater than in West countries. Poverty can be end by education.In East countries, there is no awareness, there is illiteracy and people give birth to more child than they afford. If organizations will organize seminars then poverty ratio will be minimum. Poverty is created by people own. If people will think that we have these resources and we have to  educate those people who we have, then their decisions will be better and they will contribute in economy of country. If public will be happy, government will be also happy. Public should give skills to child, in this way they will be successful in life if they will have working habits. Habits decides the future, they will be mature at early age and will take decisions correctly. When they will sit in the company of businessman they will become a business.

This division that you make is too coarse. Western countries can mean the USA, Canada, Germany, and Switzerland, and can also mean Greece, Italy, Argentina, and Mexico. The economical, political, social, and educational situation in these Western countries is very different. You cannot compare Greece and Canada and say that the situation with poverty and education is equally better there than in Eastern countries. Not to mention the fact that within each of these countries the situation is also very different, depending on the region and social stratum of the population.

Just as the Eastern countries and even East Asian countries (you use two terms and I think they were East Asian countries used as synonyms) are far from homogeneous. There are countries of Eastern Europe, such as Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine, and there are China and Japan. There is no way to say that education is worse in these countries. But the economic situation depends not only on what kind of education people have now. But also on the historical conditions that prevailed in these countries, and the consequences of which they are now experiencing, depending on them. Suffice it to say about the socialist past of the countries of the former Soviet bloc and the communist present of China. These factors cannot be corrected with seminars alone.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on September 19, 2023, 01:31:14 PM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
Poverty is a big problem of every country. In East Asian countries, poverty ratio is greater than in West countries. Poverty can be end by education.In East countries, there is no awareness, there is illiteracy and people give birth to more child than they afford. If organizations will organize seminars then poverty ratio will be minimum. Poverty is created by people own. If people will think that we have these resources and we have to  educate those people who we have, then their decisions will be better and they will contribute in economy of country. If public will be happy, government will be also happy. Public should give skills to child, in this way they will be successful in life if they will have working habits. Habits decides the future, they will be mature at early age and will take decisions correctly. When they will sit in the company of businessman they will become a business.
The level of educational equality is very important for the progress of a country. And an even level of education in society can also increase the opportunity to move a country towards a more developed country. It's just that getting a decent education also requires quite a large amount of capital in some countries. So there must be a government contribution in this case, such as making education fees free for the community. And after that the government needs to build awareness of the importance of education. Because in developed countries the level of education of the people is much higher. Meanwhile in developing countries. Indeed, there are still many areas that have not even been reached by technological advances. And there are still few school buildings. So many school children even have to travel kilometers to get to school. This makes some children even give up going to school.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: CODE200 on September 19, 2023, 02:04:14 PM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
Poverty is a big problem of every country. In East Asian countries, poverty ratio is greater than in West countries. Poverty can be end by education.In East countries, there is no awareness, there is illiteracy and people give birth to more child than they afford. If organizations will organize seminars then poverty ratio will be minimum. Poverty is created by people own. If people will think that we have these resources and we have to  educate those people who we have, then their decisions will be better and they will contribute in economy of country. If public will be happy, government will be also happy. Public should give skills to child, in this way they will be successful in life if they will have working habits. Habits decides the future, they will be mature at early age and will take decisions correctly. When they will sit in the company of businessman they will become a business.

Yes, poverty is really noticeable and evident in Asian countries compare to western countries. I think poverty in Asian region can be associated with only having less access to education which hinders people from getting out of poverty. One of the possible reasons for this can also be about less job opportunities. Since they have only gotten little to no education at all, they find it difficult to find a job. As what we can see, everything is interconnected and one factor may affect all the other aspects that's why it's hard to totally eradicate poverty.

In my own perspective, we cannot really end poverty but we can at least try to minimize it. And in order for that to happen, the government, together with its citizen, should work hand in hand because I believe that it is our shared responsibility and a shared effort to reduce the cases of poverty.

 



Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Peanutswar on September 19, 2023, 02:12:44 PM
Different country have their people will different rights in my country we are in the era where people have the rights to vote to their government officials but as always there's a history of family matters so they keep voting those people some of the votes can be bought due to being poor, to those people who want to fight fair other people who have power doing all the things just to be part of the government, if the government will become clean and really have a good ways manage the community or even the country the community will not be suffer. Just having a good leader makes the country become sufficient and there's no poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: MFahad on September 21, 2023, 06:22:37 AM


Yes, poverty is really noticeable and evident in Asian countries compare to western countries. I think poverty in Asian region can be associated with only having less access to education which hinders people from getting out of poverty. One of the possible reasons for this can also be about less job opportunities. Since they have only gotten little to no education at all, they find it difficult to find a job. As what we can see, everything is interconnected and one factor may affect all the other aspects that's why it's hard to totally eradicate poverty. 

The main cause is the increasing population but they have no interest in getting education as well as in finding a job. Because of this increase in population the number of agricultural land decrease as they went to those areas to occupying their living place.

Some individuals do not go to school for getting education while some of them are getting education but the have no abilities to use their skills in order to be involved in any field for earning. As the cultured land is not enough so there are also less amount of resources which will have massive effects on the health of individuals so if their health is not well they will also be not take part in stabilizing their economic situations.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Dimitri94 on September 21, 2023, 07:29:18 AM
Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.
I haven't noticed anything wrong with governments when we blame them for the state of the economy in the nation. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable for it, and it is also their responsibility to take care of the country. While I agree that not everyone will be able to escape poverty, if most governments are unable to provide jobs for educated youth, how do you suppose that sort of nation won't be holding them accountable? It's okay for citizens to criticize the government, but we shouldn't depend on them. Having a second source of income is the best plan of getting out of poverty.
There is no advantage only in blaming the government. The government of a country always wants to develop its country. How the people of his country can get better services and live a better life is considered as one of the main tasks of the government of every country.
We should remember that the more active people are in the country, the government will be more stronger. The government depends on the people. If the people help their government then that government can be most powerful. Every country's government has a financial constraint. The head of government has to manage the country by considering the income and expenditure aspect. The more private companies are created in a country, the government will be more financially prosperous of that particular country. Therefore, if the people can not depend on the government but develop themselves, the country will move forward quickly.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Ayers on September 21, 2023, 08:35:26 AM


Yes, poverty is really noticeable and evident in Asian countries compare to western countries. I think poverty in Asian region can be associated with only having less access to education which hinders people from getting out of poverty. One of the possible reasons for this can also be about less job opportunities. Since they have only gotten little to no education at all, they find it difficult to find a job. As what we can see, everything is interconnected and one factor may affect all the other aspects that's why it's hard to totally eradicate poverty. 

The main cause is the increasing population but they have no interest in getting education as well as in finding a job. Because of this increase in population the number of agricultural land decrease as they went to those areas to occupying their living place.

Some individuals do not go to school for getting education while some of them are getting education but the have no abilities to use their skills in order to be involved in any field for earning. As the cultured land is not enough so there are also less amount of resources which will have massive effects on the health of individuals so if their health is not well they will also be not take part in stabilizing their economic situations.

I agree with you when you emphasize the role of education in helping us escape poverty. But there is a problem that I see today: many families are so poor that they do not have enough food to eat, and in that situation, education cannot be more important than food. This happens because some governments do not introduce any policies to improve the lives of the poor, the lowest stratum of society. Many children dream of going to school, but because their families are too poor, they cannot go to school hungry and there is no free school if they don't have money. Whether we are rich or poor depends on ourselves, but the government also bears much of the responsibility if poverty occurs on a large scale in the country.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Patrol69 on September 21, 2023, 08:58:55 AM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: usekevin on September 21, 2023, 09:18:57 AM

To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.

The unemployment was considered one of the most important one,because the populated country will have huge population.The government will have stable income,if the population keep increasing means.The government can’t able to manage the economy and the population which leads to the unemployment.So the people should take care of themselves.The people should work and get some money from it,only by this way poverty can be eradicated from their society.Every individual should work for the money.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on September 21, 2023, 09:32:27 AM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.

Unemployment is not a cause, it's a consequence of problems. And the problems are quite different. From what I observe, in many countries, the main problems are several:
- Inept governance. This is solved quite simply by changing governments and state managers.
- Totalitarian regimes. Very difficult to change.
- Corruption. Also very difficult to solve.





Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Fuso.hp on September 21, 2023, 09:58:50 AM

To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.

The unemployment was considered one of the most important one,because the populated country will have huge population.The government will have stable income,if the population keep increasing means.The government can’t able to manage the economy and the population which leads to the unemployment.So the people should take care of themselves.The people should work and get some money from it,only by this way poverty can be eradicated from their society.Every individual should work for the money.
Per capita income is usually used to determine the level of unemployment in a country or the level of poverty in a country. If the population increases every year by a certain amount, then the per capita income will decrease every year, as a result of which a country will never be able to come out of poverty. It is a big problem that people depend only for jobs, after completing education, they should try to do something by themselves instead of depending on jobs. When I can do something myself, I can introduce myself as an entrepreneur to others. If everyone tries to do something on their own, the pressure on the job market will be reduced so that those who remain will get jobs and a country will prosper economically.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Chilwell on September 22, 2023, 09:39:10 PM
The unemployment was considered one of the most important one,because the populated country will have huge population.The government will have stable income,if the population keep increasing means.The government can’t able to manage the economy and the population which leads to the unemployment.So the people should take care of themselves.The people should work and get some money from it,only by this way poverty can be eradicated from their society.Every individual should work for the money.
No any nation will say they don't forseen the increase in population of their on country just that they don't care about us, why is census taking place is it no the way each nation know their population. Government can't take away poverty but they can reduce unemployment by introducing a practical entrepreneurship course in our institution, then people will realized that there is no job out side and this alone can motivate them to pay more attention on the course. With a structure like government will be able to reduce unemployment, this is what the government can do and can not eradicate poverty completely.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Uruhara on September 22, 2023, 10:46:43 PM
The unemployment was considered one of the most important one,because the populated country will have huge population.The government will have stable income,if the population keep increasing means.The government can’t able to manage the economy and the population which leads to the unemployment.So the people should take care of themselves.The people should work and get some money from it,only by this way poverty can be eradicated from their society.Every individual should work for the money.
No any nation will say they don't forseen the increase in population of their on country just that they don't care about us, why is census taking place is it no the way each nation know their population. Government can't take away poverty but they can reduce unemployment by introducing a practical entrepreneurship course in our institution, then people will realized that there is no job out side and this alone can motivate them to pay more attention on the course. With a structure like government will be able to reduce unemployment, this is what the government can do and can not eradicate poverty completely.

One of the government's efforts to overcome poverty is by providing general education and training to the community itself. So that people have their own skills to run independent businesses when there are not enough job vacancies for the community. And after people have the skills to open independent businesses, then the government will provide capital assistance to open businesses for people who really need business capital. Well, a program like this has been carried out by the government in my country since before the Covid19 virus came to my country. At that time the government was intensively developing entrepreneurship in my country. And at that time, even every young person who had just finished school could immediately get skills training in the world of work that he was interested in through an application launched by the government called Prakerja. And this method was actually very effective at that time in my country. But then Covid-19 came and destroyed people's entrepreneurship. As a result, the government's corrective steps have been set back. Because many people used business capital during the Covid 19 pandemic to survive. And when the pandemic is over they won't have the capital to open their business again.

So the point is that a government can indeed help solve the problem of poverty, although not in its totality. It's just that sometimes there are obstacles that make the government fail to carry out its programs. Because this was already done in my country before the pandemic came. But after the pandemic came and then it was over. Now everything is back to square one.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: serjent05 on September 22, 2023, 11:09:55 PM
The government can guide and help its constituents and elevate the status of its citizen by providing opportunities to people.  The government can also help its people by providing free education eliminating illiteracy among its people.  The government only provides possible solutions but the people should be actively participating in these activities.  In short, ending poverty is possible if the government and its people work hand in hand.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: coupable on September 22, 2023, 11:42:06 PM
In the traditional capitalist system, there must be different social classes, one of which is always in need of the other. The rich need the poor to do work for them and the poor need to work to survive. This means that the system (which is ruled by the wealthy class, of course) is always in need of “poverty” as a system of living that includes classes below it to maintain its control. The poor in the capitalist system are an evolved image of the slaves of antiquity and feudalism.
With the development of the capitalist system, countries emerged in which all citizens had a good standard of living, if not everyone was wealthy. This requires that there be poor countries that are exhausted to achieve this level.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: n0ne on September 22, 2023, 11:57:40 PM
The government can guide and help its constituents and elevate the status of its citizen by providing opportunities to people.  The government can also help its people by providing free education eliminating illiteracy among its people.  The government only provides possible solutions but the people should be actively participating in these activities.  In short, ending poverty is possible if the government and its people work hand in hand.
If the government were able to keep corruption under control, then surely it can make the country free from poverty. Accumulation of wealth and development of particular regions of the nation is a major problem which creates opportunity for specific people and the rest gets ignored. When this gets overcome by the policies framed by the government, automatically scenario will change. Maybe this will be quite complicated at the beginning and things will change gradually.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: philipma1957 on September 22, 2023, 11:59:07 PM
Sadly the poor will always be with us.

please note 🗒️ this idea above is as old as christ himself

and i paraphrased it as I don’t
know  the exact bible quote.

I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.

I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.

I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.

so i simply think they will not go away.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: $anounimus$ on September 23, 2023, 04:11:14 AM
No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum.  Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.
To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.
Equalizing employment opportunities and determining minimum wages will also greatly influence the economy in a country, it will also reduce poverty levels. When world economic conditions are uncertain, the government must think about very urgent matters in society. I am also sure that the government has taken various ways to improve the welfare of its people, even though they are not perfect.

If the unemployment rate continues to increase, it will add to other problems which will also worsen the economic situation. The high rate of inflation and the increasing number of unemployed will have an impact on negative things, for example there will be a high crime rate and of course everyone will not want that to happen. Therefore, the government must be really detailed in looking at the turmoil and activities of its people, so that if there is assistance from the government, it is truly targeted at the beneficiaries.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Etranger on September 23, 2023, 05:48:06 AM
Sadly the poor will always be with us.

please note 🗒️ this idea above is as old as christ himself

and i paraphrased it as I don’t
know  the exact bible quote.

I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.

I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.

I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.

so i simply think they will not go away.

They won't go away, because people tend to see things in binary positions. If there are rich, then there will be definitely poor. Even if these poor will be incomparably better off in the future compared to the poor now. This is one reason. And the other is that some people are actually comfortable being poor. This is an excuse for absolutely everything that can go wrong and fail in life. Many questions that require thinking and creativity are not raised at all. Much less responsibility must be borne. And people, in fact, get used to this state. It becomes much easier for them to dream about changing something, so that their life becomes better and more secure, but they do not do it, because it is very difficult.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 23, 2023, 07:43:18 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Inflation is the cause to the hike of price of goods but the government are still very capable to regulate inflation to a lower lever, so I think in some countries where inflation is very high the government can contribute to the level at which the inflation stands. Government can regulate inflation by good management of money in the country and inflation can also be regulated when a country is more of production than importation of goods. A country that depends more on importation suffers more in the hands of inflation,  inflation level is always very high. I can blame the governments for high level of inflation.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: iv4n on September 23, 2023, 08:06:55 AM
The government can guide and help its constituents and elevate the status of its citizen by providing opportunities to people.  The government can also help its people by providing free education eliminating illiteracy among its people.  The government only provides possible solutions but the people should be actively participating in these activities.  In short, ending poverty is possible if the government and its people work hand in hand.

Maybe in some movies... but in reality, ending poverty is not in their interest. Governments work hand in hand with rich people (or for rich people), simply without poor people (slaves) they wouldn't have power in their hands, it's the leverage they make on all of us. So what the government is doing is keeping this system as it is... not for years, for decades. Look outside, the rich are more richer, and there are more poor people than ever. If they are really doing something the numbers would be different.



Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: SmartCharpa on September 23, 2023, 08:17:39 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I am not familiar with your country, but I can say that the challenges we are facing are similar to those in yours, and the government is to blame for all of it. If the government is not to blame, then who else is? They can give the poor a job so they can put food on the table, but it is getting worse for the poor who don't have a job because how are they going to survive in the economy? We experience new prices on the products each time, but we have to keep working hard and we can't put that on front that we should be blaming them always whether they will hear our voices. Every month gas prices are rising in my country, and all these protests are doing nothing to change that if the government means what they are doing, there will be no change of their mind until the time they like to see the poor have suffered enough.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 23, 2023, 08:42:50 AM
I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.

I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.
They are everywhere and even in the rich countries, there will always be those people that are living in poverty. Even if there's a help from the government if they don't wanna help themselves. That's why those people that have been doing nothing and are all depending to the help of their government, coming from cash incentives monthly, food stamps and every help that's coming from the government. They don't wanna work and they're all good with their situation, we can't blame them for being like that but we're not like them, we've got a lot of things to do and dreams and goals trying to reach with all hard work that we do.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: KiaKia on September 23, 2023, 11:42:28 AM
The government owes no one, they are not the ones to set your lives right, the funny thing is even if a president of a country decide to change the lives of his people, there will always be people who will fail to grow from the help the get from the government, because some problems lives inside people, not the government, if the government release a large amount if money for people to do something with, the government won't be the one to help you monitor your investment, many people don't know what to do when it comes to making decisions, they lack financial knowledge, is the government the one responsible for this too?

People are blaming the government for nothing, the only thing I will ever expect from the government is security and good roads, and maybe stable electricity in the country too, but when it comes to people turning their lives around, that's not on the government's neck, it's left for you to stand up for yourself and do something, learn a skill maybe and turn your own life around.

Also the truth about the government is they don't have poor people in mind, they want you to remain the same, so that they can be in control over you, do the harder jobs for them and get paid, if you look at the whole picture carefully, the government never had the best interest of the people in mind.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: dothebeats on September 23, 2023, 12:51:40 PM
The government can guide and help its constituents and elevate the status of its citizen by providing opportunities to people.  The government can also help its people by providing free education eliminating illiteracy among its people.  The government only provides possible solutions but the people should be actively participating in these activities.  In short, ending poverty is possible if the government and its people work hand in hand.
I agree with you. Both the people and the government have their own responsibilities to fulfill if we want to see changes in the issue of poverty. The government holds a responsibility to protect and properly govern the people and the people, on the other hand, needs to make sure that they are also utilizing the opportunities given to them as the government cannot individually look after their people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: capedbaldy on September 23, 2023, 01:11:34 PM
They are everywhere and even in the rich countries, there will always be those people that are living in poverty. Even if there's a help from the government if they don't wanna help themselves. That's why those people that have been doing nothing and are all depending to the help of their government, coming from cash incentives monthly, food stamps and every help that's coming from the government. They don't wanna work and they're all good with their situation, we can't blame them for being like that but we're not like them, we've got a lot of things to do and dreams and goals trying to reach with all hard work that we do.
I think they want to work like other normal people but they don't have the opportunity to work with a decent wage according to their work, so generally they become farmers to survive, because government aid is not distributed every month and government aid is only enough for consumption for around 2 month. So in my opinion, in every environment there will still be poor people, but we must be aware that we have an obligation to give some of our wealth to the poor, helping other people will not make us poor but will make our chances of getting a fortune easier.

We can help the government eradicate poverty by offering jobs to them, we can place them in jobs that require labor such as moving goods, unloading heavy goods, or whatever other work suits their skills, this effort will help the economy improve to reduce poverty. .


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: RockBell on September 23, 2023, 03:56:43 PM


To eliminate poverty in the country, unemployment must be eliminated first. I don't think there will be a problem of poverty if everyone gets a chance to work according to their own merit. In every country there are many such students who are unemployed after completing their graduation. If a student who is unemployed after completing graduation gets employment then he can help his family a lot financially and his family will slowly rise from below the poverty line but unemployment is a big problem in today's world. While there is ample employment in developed countries, unemployment is a major problem in developing countries. Increasing the education rate is of no use if the government cannot guarantee employment to those people. Plan to eliminate unemployment before eliminating poverty and you will see that poverty is eliminated.


Even unemployment cannot be the only solution to unemployment; otherwise, how would the government be able to pay the entire youth labor force given the revenue it is currently generating? And because everything is becoming more technological in the century we are presently living in and human presence is becoming less and less necessary, technology is consuming the globe. Since investors believe they would really spend less if they go mechanical, I'm still trying to figure out how they will balance this.
Due to inflation and other factors that impact the value of money, getting a job after graduating does not necessarily address the issue. There ought to be additional approaches to fighting poverty at its point of origin. As for me as a graduate you don't even need to wait for the government just put your self to better use.

The unemployment was considered one of the most important one,because the populated country will have huge population.The government will have stable income,if the population keep increasing means.The government can’t able to manage the economy and the population which leads to the unemployment.So the people should take care of themselves.The people should work and get some money from it,only by this way poverty can be eradicated from their society.Every individual should work for the money.


The government has misplaced its priorities, thus it would be really beneficial if they could reduce the cost of goods. The administration of my region just shared a palliative, but to me, this is not a solution because prices are severely rising and it is getting harder for people to make ends meet. If the government can work with the private sector, even if it isn't operating at full capacity, it will at least be complementing other sectors. However, they will be forced to lower the price of goods because all the politicians care about is money and corruption. which have finally destroyed a Country's economy.  And its getting worse day by day.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Bushdark on September 23, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The government have the right to help the citizens and end poverty but due to the constitution, it will be very hard for the government to put an end to poverty. We ourselves, we need to try to make good investment that will pave way for us I'm the future.

The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bestcoins1 on September 23, 2023, 09:16:22 PM
I agree with you. Both the people and the government have their own responsibilities to fulfill if we want to see changes in the issue of poverty. The government holds a responsibility to protect and properly govern the people and the people, on the other hand, needs to make sure that they are also utilizing the opportunities given to them as the government cannot individually look after their people.
This must exist in the consciousness of each individual who wants change in the problem of poverty, because in general everyone must be aware that the government only provides general protection for all the people it leads. Meanwhile, the people must also be aware that every very detailed change will occur through the results of their own efforts consistently enough to be able to overcome the problem of poverty. At least to himself and the people around him.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: serjent05 on September 23, 2023, 10:42:14 PM
I agree with you. Both the people and the government have their own responsibilities to fulfill if we want to see changes in the issue of poverty. The government holds a responsibility to protect and properly govern the people and the people, on the other hand, needs to make sure that they are also utilizing the opportunities given to them as the government cannot individually look after their people.
This must exist in the consciousness of each individual who wants change in the problem of poverty, because in general everyone must be aware that the government only provides general protection for all the people it leads. Meanwhile, the people must also be aware that every very detailed change will occur through the results of their own efforts consistently enough to be able to overcome the problem of poverty. At least to himself and the people around him.

I highly agree that one improvement only relies on his own self.  The government can only offer opportunity and the person is the one who must take advantage of this opportunity to elevate his level of living.  Aside from that, an individual should adopt and learn to adapt to whatever changes on his environment is.  If he fails to adopt, he will be left behind, and if he fails to adapt he won't survive.  Thus to get away from poverty requires smart and critical thinking, hard work, patience and perseverance.  So each individual having these kinds of traits can help the government to eliminate or minimize poverty.  It is a matter of cooperative actions between the government and its citizens.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Etranger on September 24, 2023, 10:05:21 AM
The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.

If the government has nothing to offer, but only takes something from the citizens, who exactly has to regulate situations like war? And what do you mean by "properly" in the context of war, Russia started against Ukraine?

The task of the government is not to get rid of poverty, but to create conditions in which people can earn a living. Of course, the fact that someone is poor is influenced by many factors, such as tthe state of the country's economy, origin, state of health, personal skills, but also the fact that some people simply do nothing to change their lives for the better is of no less importance. Many of them do not take advantage of the opportunities offered to them and are satisfied with the situation in which they are.



Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: uneng on September 25, 2023, 02:16:58 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I am not familiar with your country, but I can say that the challenges we are facing are similar to those in yours, and the government is to blame for all of it. If the government is not to blame, then who else is? They can give the poor a job so they can put food on the table, but it is getting worse for the poor who don't have a job because how are they going to survive in the economy? We experience new prices on the products each time, but we have to keep working hard and we can't put that on front that we should be blaming them always whether they will hear our voices. Every month gas prices are rising in my country, and all these protests are doing nothing to change that if the government means what they are doing, there will be no change of their mind until the time they like to see the poor have suffered enough.
The government to create jobs isn't the solution for the economical crisis. The money they will use to pay employees' wages come from another citizens. The more employees the government has, the higher are going to be the taxes for everyone to pay. It's better that the government decreases its costs maximum as possible, so they can keep taxes low for citizens to pay.

The government can't be fully blamed for the crisis, because there are external factors in this case, which is the war between Ukraine and Russia, but they can be partially blamed for not sharing the burden with their people. Since life is expensive for everyone, governments should be the first to rule by the example, decreasing wages from politicians and government's members.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DrBeer on September 25, 2023, 05:49:50 PM
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I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.
I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.
I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.
so i simply think they will not go away.

Here's a little clarification. Are you sure that these people are poor, let's say, as a result of the wrong actions of the government?
The thing is that I once communicated with a wonderful foundation in the USA, which feeds, shoes, clothes and helps with medicines for the homeless. And the poor are really a huge segment of society. BUT !
I asked - you have so many "hands", can't you place an order for the most rudimentary work for them with American companies? For companies it's cheap labor, unskilled but for some jobs it's good enough. For the "poor" - it is a job, an opportunity to realize themselves, and even possibly change their lives. Do you know what the answer was? "They won't work, they are satisfied with everything, it's their way of life". Don't forget about state benefits for the unemployed....


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: macson on September 25, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
the role of government in ending poverty in a country is the one that has the strongest influence after that, then we ourselves (just look at the countries with the highest incomes in the world, they have competent governments and well-targeted policies).  the prices of basic necessities are created because of politics, the price of oil is also created because politics and health and education costs are also created because of politics, essentially everything related to the economy in a country is created because of politics.  but, we must not completely depend on the government for our fate, we must also work hard to create our own opportunities and future.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: DVlog on September 25, 2023, 07:05:02 PM
Both sides have their own responsibilities. The government needs to create more jobs for youth and build up a business-friendly environment so that new businesses and startups can grow. A competitive market can bring more job opportunities and ideas, which can solve the unemployment problem in a country. We need to train ourselves to take advantage of these opportunities so that we can be financially stable.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: slapper on September 26, 2023, 10:31:42 AM
....
I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.
I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.
I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.
so i simply think they will not go away.

Here's a little clarification. Are you sure that these people are poor, let's say, as a result of the wrong actions of the government?
The thing is that I once communicated with a wonderful foundation in the USA, which feeds, shoes, clothes and helps with medicines for the homeless. And the poor are really a huge segment of society. BUT !
I asked - you have so many "hands", can't you place an order for the most rudimentary work for them with American companies? For companies it's cheap labor, unskilled but for some jobs it's good enough. For the "poor" - it is a job, an opportunity to realize themselves, and even possibly change their lives. Do you know what the answer was? "They won't work, they are satisfied with everything, it's their way of life". Don't forget about state benefits for the unemployed....
The scenario seems complicated. Offering unskilled jobs to the needy may seem like asimple solution. The problem goes beyond unwillingness to labor, in my opinion. Mental and physical health, education, and resources all affect a person's ability to work

Most organizations want skilled workers, therefore they may be hesitant to recruit struggling people. Education and occupational training may be better long-term. It's about giving people the skills and information to obtain a job, establish a career, and improve their life. For significant change, I think it's important to address other concerns as well as employment


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: MFahad on September 27, 2023, 07:23:21 PM
Both sides have their own responsibilities. The government needs to create more jobs for youth and build up a business-friendly environment so that new businesses and startups can grow. A competitive market can bring more job opportunities and ideas, which can solve the unemployment problem in a country. We need to train ourselves to take advantage of these opportunities so that we can be financially stable.

We cannot say that one entity will perform better in order to end poverty because  government reduce unemployment and should work better in order to minimize the risk of diseases as if people will healthy they will work more hard in order to fulfil their jobs.

Same case it with citizens of a country that they should work hard physically to make the country a developed one, they should not leave their online jobs but they should also concentrate on finding job opportunity through which they will help in the economy of a country.

Government cannot keep check on everyone therefore its our responsibility to not continue such job which has adverse impact on the economy of a country and which also badly impacts other citizens.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bocyaj on September 27, 2023, 07:35:28 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

If the country is developed country,they will have enough many to introduce good schemes to their people.In addition the developed country people had an good environment to manage their expenses and earn more then the needed money.If the developing country try to introduce the schemes for their people,surely they won’t have enough money for it.The developing country government will get loan from the international funding agencies or from the world bank.This was cause for the less eradication of the poverty from the people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Stedsm on September 27, 2023, 07:36:14 PM
I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: blockman on September 27, 2023, 11:53:28 PM
Many of the protesters in my country blame the government. It's visible that there's a lack of support from the government but you don't move at all times together with them. While their policies and help really helps to shortcut matters but as a person who sees the poverty line getting tougher these days and came from not so fortunate family, it is really should be you that must go up. Lucky the people that are being helped by the government but many of them wastes that opportunity like being a college full scholar but they're not finishing it. The problem at most times is on the people and the government why they end up in a bad situation. No need to blame anyone or the government, although there's an argument that we shouldn't tolerate and normalize the shortcomings of the government. Just like us, they're not perfect and the initiative should start from us because no one is there to help us, keep that mindset and stand and do what you think is gonna change your life forever.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: poodle63 on September 28, 2023, 12:09:27 AM
its always combination of both, government give ways for the poor to climb up like through scholarships and even giving a way for micro business to grow through subsidy, and then the poor who are hard working enough improving their wealth through using these means, government can't just make some lazy people become rich just because they want to be rich.
there need to be efforts in every rewards, otherwise its just complete waste of money.
therefore its not always governments faults in this regards, sometime there is already infrastructure and many things being presented by the government for the sake of growing the industry and economic sector of the country but can't really affect anything if the people themselves aren't interested in entrepreneurship.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 28, 2023, 02:01:48 AM
I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.

The government is really doing their best to create those jobs and also provide them to  end their struggle but right now the issue of poverty is a combination of both because we also need to do it on our own. Let's say the government is encouraging us not to have a lot of children if we struggle financially so we need to use some contraceptives. The government is announcing it everywhere and also giving free contraceptives but still people are not doing their way which is why the population continues to rise as well as poverty.

It is best to not rely on the government now because you will starve if you will. Create your own opportunities because no one can help you but yourself.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: barisbilgili on September 28, 2023, 02:21:09 AM
its always combination of both, government give ways for the poor to climb up like through scholarships and even giving a way for micro business to grow through subsidy, and then the poor who are hard working enough improving their wealth through using these means, government can't just make some lazy people become rich just because they want to be rich.
there need to be efforts in every rewards, otherwise its just complete waste of money.
therefore its not always governments faults in this regards, sometime there is already infrastructure and many things being presented by the government for the sake of growing the industry and economic sector of the country but can't really affect anything if the people themselves aren't interested in entrepreneurship.
You are right that these two things are interdependent, if the government has provided facilities for the community but they are not used by the community then the efforts made by the government are in vain and vice versa. If the government allows its people to work on their own efforts to overcome poverty, of course there is something wrong in the government system, perhaps there are individuals from the government who only think about a group of people or enrich themselves without thinking about the people who have chosen them to be leaders and if something like this happens, I think it is better to try to develop the potential we already have so that we can get sufficient income for our own needs without depending on the government which only thinks about the interests of a group of people.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: bitterguy28 on September 28, 2023, 02:22:28 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The government may running the country , but we are the one who runs our life.

Why need blame the government when you are proven to be lazy and not  doing everything to make your life wealthy.

we all have the chance to improve our living , and of course with the help of cryptocurrency specially bitcoin , then try to do your thing and let the government do theirs .


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Latviand on September 28, 2023, 04:45:10 AM
I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.
To be honest, I think that there should first have a government that has the right policies so the people can smoothly do their part in prosperity. Even if we say that the people should their part first, it wouldn't be of any use because without a support from the government, the people will be fighting against the crooked policies.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Renampun on September 28, 2023, 12:07:18 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

the government with all kinds of policies they can help people get out of poverty a little, they can accept foreign investment to get more job vacancies, compensate young people who haven't found work or provide free access to food and health for people who really are in that poverty line. in my country our government is quite active in maintaining the stability of the country's economy, many and the effects of the war between russia vs ukraine are no longer so pronounced, currently the big problem in our country is the unemployment rate which is still high and the government must help citizens get that.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 28, 2023, 12:52:40 PM
The government have the right to help the citizens and end poverty but due to the constitution, it will be very hard for the government to put an end to poverty. We ourselves, we need to try to make good investment that will pave way for us I'm the future.

How does the constitution prevent the government from helping her citizens out of poverty, the government are there to serve and not to enrich each other with public funds. The government can passed laws and policy that'll make the country to be friendly to businesses and when they establish companies in the country, their citizens gets opportunity to be paid as they work one or multiplayer jobs. Poverty can't be totally eliminated though because it has been a part of humanity from the days of the Roman empire to modern day civilization but it can be reduced by providing job opportunities to those that are ready and willing to work. We'll always have those that prefer poverty as they're lazy and won't want to work their ways out of poverty but prefer to be sympathize with and given things. The government should use the public funds and established factories and other institution that'll create job for their citizens.

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The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.

I don't know much about the western world  how their politics are been played there but over here, the government intentionally leave people in poverty because it benefits them. Things aren't been done for the masses instead it's been shared with in themselves and their relatives so when they come back for reelection and give little promises they can get the votes of hungry people that'll sell their vote for chicken change so that they can eat for just few days while the politicians return to eating public funds. Poverty can be reduced when the government are interested in doing so because they're expose to unlimited resources to use in achieving structures that will help with reducing poverty in the nation.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Xcode7 on September 28, 2023, 12:58:32 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

the government with all kinds of policies they can help people get out of poverty a little, they can accept foreign investment to get more job vacancies, compensate young people who haven't found work or provide free access to food and health for people who really are in that poverty line. in my country our government is quite active in maintaining the stability of the country's economy, many and the effects of the war between russia vs ukraine are no longer so pronounced, currently the big problem in our country is the unemployment rate which is still high and the government must help citizens get that.
It is true that every effort is made by the government for the welfare of the population in its country, but sometimes there are many obstacles that are experienced, such as the global crisis that is occurring, food supplies are increasing, etc., so that the government of a country cannot control the big impacts, which results in the population experiencing difficulties, and there are many other things that the government cannot control because of its limitations.
However, overall all governments will definitely try their best to overcome poverty, unemployment and other underdeveloped things in the country so that it can develop, but it is not easy, there are many processes and efforts that need to be done slowly.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Razmirraz on September 28, 2023, 02:25:26 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
When basic needs rise which makes it difficult for people to manage their finances between income and expenditure, it means that your country is being hit by inflation. The government has the responsibility to solve all the problems that are making society increasingly squeezed, demonstrations are very appropriate for the performance of the government which is considered incapable of managing the country.
The government must set national prices for basic needs such as oil, gas, rice and other foodstuffs. The government also needs to eradicate the mafia that hoards basic necessities and often manipulates market prices.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: jasonjm on September 29, 2023, 06:24:03 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Both the government and the society have to play their part for the betterment of their country. If the government is facilitating the people and the society is not responding to the government's efforts, there will be no improvement in the living standards. At the moment, inflation is a global phenomenon, and healthy inflation is always necessary for economic growth. Inflation is mostly affecting the countries where per capita income is on the lower side.

In some countries, governments are mismanaging the resources. In third-world countries, corruption and kickbacks are the major concerns. But, citizens have to play their part in these conditions. Traders and distributors should make reasonable profits in these times to make commodities somewhat affordable. People should fight corruption at the individual level and then transform society. At the government level, continuation of the policies should be a must.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: dothebeats on September 29, 2023, 12:25:46 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Both the government and the society have to play their part for the betterment of their country. If the government is facilitating the people and the society is not responding to the government's efforts, there will be no improvement in the living standards. At the moment, inflation is a global phenomenon, and healthy inflation is always necessary for economic growth. Inflation is mostly affecting the countries where per capita income is on the lower side.

In some countries, governments are mismanaging the resources. In third-world countries, corruption and kickbacks are the major concerns. But, citizens have to play their part in these conditions. Traders and distributors should make reasonable profits in these times to make commodities somewhat affordable. People should fight corruption at the individual level and then transform society. At the government level, continuation of the policies should be a must.
Good take on this one. It is undoubtedly true that both parties have the responsibility and should make an action if we really want to overcome poverty. While the government needs to facilitate policies and serve the people of the country, individuals also have the responsibility to respond to the efforts and actions of their government, both locally and internationally. Although it is true that corruption and kickbacks are two of the biggest factors that is involved in the rise of poverty in a lot of developing countries, the general public have the responsibility to fight against it. The government and the people should really keep each other responsible of their actions and decisions that drives poverty.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: reagansimms on September 29, 2023, 12:38:05 PM
When the role of the government cannot be expected or the welfare of the people cannot be handled by the government, each individual must rely on themselves to get out of poverty. Not all people receive government assistance, there are those whose personal data is manipulated by relevant officials to divert aid to other parties, there are also those who escape government monitoring.
When prices of basic commodities continue to increase but your income is still limited, you must have side income to maintain financial stability. Never hope or depend on the government for the problems you are facing, you must rely on yourself to overcome the inflationary pressure that is occurring in your country.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Biznesmen on November 04, 2023, 11:53:52 PM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Ending poverty partially depends on us and mostly depends on the government. The government should make bold economic and financial policies that help the poor, not in the favor of rich people. The whole world has rich and poor inequalities; they're higher in many developed countries and worse in many developing countries. The thing is, when the government creates an opportunity for the poor, the poor are able to grab the opportunity and make it happen. The major reasons for poverty, like unemployment, price rises, low economic development, etc., are definitely in the hands of the government to resolve. I hope one day this multidimensional poverty will be resolved.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: JunaidAzizi on November 05, 2023, 03:59:34 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
War brings very huge crises which consequence are not only at that region but across borders. The Russian-Ukraine war causes inflation not only in that region but also in every corner of the world and now there is another war between Hamas and Israel which also creates headaches. The prices of crude oil increase the import and export are disturbed and people face many problems. There are some countries which take care of their people and facilitate, in these countries, I suggested some names are UAE, USA these are two countries system in which they helped every individual that is living in that country but if you are living in the underdevelopment country then you need to take care of your self. For example in Sri Lanka the government leaves their people in a harder and tough situation and leaves the country. So the meaning of all this is to take care of yourself and not depend on the government or other person's is very good for you if you want to live and grow moe.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Essential10 on November 16, 2023, 07:16:00 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Seeing corruption as the main cause of poverty in a country. Public awareness is needed to prevent corruption. Because if I can prevent my disease than treating it, it will be more useful. We don't call black to black and white to white just because of lack of consciousness. Most of the cases involve corruption from high to low levels in underdeveloped, developing countries. From many educational institutions to government departments, various organizations are involved in corruption. There is no cure for today's corruption, corruption is an epidemic. From the government secretariat to the conscience of the people, corruption is involved. Due to corruption, all economic systems collapse, which affects human life. It is not possible to prevent corruption only through the awareness of political persons. If it is possible to prevent corruption through the awareness of the government and the people, it will be possible to eliminate the poverty of a country.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Ben Barubal on November 16, 2023, 08:09:41 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

  If we have any poverty that we are facing, I think it is apart from the poverty that the government is facing. It is for each individual because our freedom from poverty does not depend on the government, because if our freedom from poverty depends on the government, then the government is poor because of us, and then it will come out that we are too lazy as citizens of a country.

  So it is better that we find a way to overcome the poverty that we will face. At least we have a solution as to what steps we will take regarding this matter.


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: Zoomic on November 16, 2023, 09:08:51 AM
In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
This is an interesting thread, although I do not visit the economics thread, that is why I haven't seen this thread. Now I have read it, there are two ways to that.
  • Government is the authority that is given the mandate to end poverty. So it shouldn't surprise us when the citizens expect the government to end their poverty by using their tax money and other generated revenue judicious. This is why any government that is doing well, their unemployment and poverty index are always infinitistimal
  • Being rich also depends on the individuals ability to make the ends meet. But no matter how well individuals might strive to succeed, the government is against the people, they cannot. 


Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
Post by: btc78 on November 16, 2023, 02:07:30 PM
    In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
    But no matter how well individuals might strive to succeed, the government is against the people, they cannot.  

    exactly

    i am tired of people saying that we should all stop complaining and instead strive to be better and richer citizens of the country but a lot of the people in my country are already working day and night but aren’t paid as much as their efforts

    inflation, price of consumer goods and etc are things that are affected by our economic status which the government has a way to fix if they gave the money from taxpayers to their respective budget placements

    they could help in bettering our education system, our railroads for more efficient traveling to school and most importantly job opportunities, our farmers and fishermen, and many others

    the government and the citizens work hand in hand [/list]


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: CageMabok on November 16, 2023, 03:06:44 PM
      If we have any poverty that we are facing, I think it is apart from the poverty that the government is facing. It is for each individual because our freedom from poverty does not depend on the government, because if our freedom from poverty depends on the government, then the government is poor because of us, and then it will come out that we are too lazy as citizens of a country.
    The government in all countries is only tasked with leading their country and also maintaining the welfare of their respective people by providing every facility needed by their own people. Meanwhile, for things like poverty, it is the duty of each individual to eradicate it because the government is only trying to provide assistance for this. Whether it's direct cash assistance or indirect cash assistance, such as distributing basic necessities and medicines for free to all its people.

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      So it is better that we find a way to overcome the poverty that we will face. At least we have a solution as to what steps we will take regarding this matter.
    A more appropriate step to overcome this is to work in a job sector that can bring in more income. For example, businesses at the medium and small levels must also have sources of income from two different directions even though they have to do two jobs that are not the same. Because as long as this work can help us overcome poverty slowly, I think it is very good to do it without having to join the government system with a monthly salary through certain agencies.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: Raceonsucced on November 16, 2023, 03:13:01 PM
    In my opinion, society and the government must unite in dealing with this, do not blame each other, and are easily provoked by irresponsible parties.
    And to eradicate poverty, there are actually examples from real stories from ancient times (if we want to look closely and put them into practice). It's just that we focus on the mistakes that occurred, and look for opportunities to blame each other.

    Conclusion: therefore society & government must unite and focus on solving problems.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: bitzizzix on November 16, 2023, 03:30:20 PM
    When the role of the government cannot be expected or the welfare of the people cannot be handled by the government, each individual must rely on themselves to get out of poverty. Not all people receive government assistance, there are those whose personal data is manipulated by relevant officials to divert aid to other parties, there are also those who escape government monitoring.
    When prices of basic commodities continue to increase but your income is still limited, you must have side income to maintain financial stability. Never hope or depend on the government for the problems you are facing, you must rely on yourself to overcome the inflationary pressure that is occurring in your country.
    The government cannot bear all the poverty of its people and that is what we have to understand, and the problem of social assistance from the government for the poor is often not on target and this problem will continue to occur. Because those who are recorded as poor and over time become rich or middle class, still get it and there are also individuals who manipulate officials who prioritize large families and local communities, resulting in aid being misdirected and not rotating.
    So it's best not to expect too much from government assistance because the things I mentioned often happen. And in this case we must be able to learn to be independent to be able to meet our needs by increasing our income and having a side job or additional income and also saving on expenses that we have to incur in the current situation. Because that way we will get used to it, and when the economy recovers we will be able to save for important needs, from our habits due to work or side income and this must continue to be done so that we can continue to live peacefully.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: SmartCharpa on November 16, 2023, 06:32:48 PM
    In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

    Governments bear the responsibility for any problems in the country. I'm not sure about your country, but in mine, when prices of goods rise, the government bears the blame. For example, if fuel prices rise, the prices of all goods and necessities will rise, leaving us with no one to blame but ourselves. Is the government to blame for the poor's struggle to make ends meet by raising fuel prices, which stop the majority of people from eating three meals a day. I cannot see anyone being at fault for blaming the government for anything because things are so expensive, salaries are insufficient to meet our needs financially before you receive them, and the budget you create will go over your salary. The government, in my opinion, only cares about themselves and doesn't seem to care about how the people and how they survive in the country.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: JoyMarsha on November 16, 2023, 08:32:45 PM
    No matter how the government of a country tries to provide jobs for its citizens. There is no way poverty will be eradicated from the country. Government will only provide the best they can, and their citizens will then use what their government has provided and given to them, to turn it to their advantage to change their status quo of being rich.

    In a country, no government has decided to make a particular citizen rich. What they all do is provide an open opportunity for each of their citizens to choose from, it will now be left for their citizens to make use of it to their advantage to succeed in life(whether to be rich or poor)


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: barisbilgili on November 17, 2023, 03:59:11 AM
    A more appropriate step to overcome this is to work in a job sector that can bring in more income. For example, businesses at the medium and small levels must also have sources of income from two different directions even though they have to do two jobs that are not the same. Because as long as this work can help us overcome poverty slowly, I think it is very good to do it without having to join the government system with a monthly salary through certain agencies.
    It is everyone's responsibility to be able to earn income to meet the needs they need because if we expect the government to be able to overcome poverty, that is wrong in my opinion, because it is important for us to have several sources of income to be able to meet our own needs, I agree not to hope for a job with the government because the salary we get from the government is very small and cannot necessarily meet our needs for a month and if we can work and earn our own income it will certainly be more satisfying.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on November 17, 2023, 12:02:11 PM
    In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
    only we are fully responsible for our lives, I will never depend my life on the government, it's better for me to work hard myself so that my future is better than now, the government is just administration, they are not a group of people who can make a lot jobs, especially if they fail to attract investors for investment. let's fight for our own lives, the government only cares about their own stomachs.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: angrybirdy on November 17, 2023, 12:39:58 PM
    In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
    only we are fully responsible for our lives, I will never depend my life on the government, it's better for me to work hard myself so that my future is better than now, the government is just administration, they are not a group of people who can make a lot jobs, especially if they fail to attract investors for investment. let's fight for our own lives, the government only cares about their own stomachs.
    I agree with you, It's true that it's not a government responsibility for us to become successful in life and to end a poverty but they are the one who can do or implement such things just to help us to overcome the poverty in our society. I mean, we are the one who makes our future so better to work hard for ourself so we can achieve more and do not depend everything in the government.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: Miles2006 on November 17, 2023, 11:25:42 PM
    A more appropriate step to overcome this is to work in a job sector that can bring in more income. For example, businesses at the medium and small levels must also have sources of income from two different directions even though they have to do two jobs that are not the same. Because as long as this work can help us overcome poverty slowly, I think it is very good to do it without having to join the government system with a monthly salary through certain agencies.
    It is everyone's responsibility to be able to earn income to meet the needs they need because if we expect the government to be able to overcome poverty, that is wrong in my opinion, because it is important for us to have several sources of income to be able to meet our own needs, I agree not to hope for a job with the government because the salary we get from the government is very small and cannot necessarily meet our needs for a month and if we can work and earn our own income it will certainly be more satisfying.
    You're actually right cause I see no reason waiting for the government to increase workers salaries, some leaders are very selfish and they will not care about the masses neither will they pay attention. I see no need protesting. But despite the hard work and everything a poor economy will still be attributed to bad government and poor leadership. Nowadays salary earners no longer live fine due to the price of things the inflation and other things, even business people are also complaining the price of food in the market, people who engage themselves in different kinds of work will still complain cause after working so hard you find yourself spending money on low value things with high price. my concern is not about the work or the job my major concern is the inflation, even if most people can work hard to fit this standard of living, not everyone can do so for example the pensioners, and government should be blamed for the poor economy and inflation.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: martinex on November 18, 2023, 03:55:49 AM
    Everyone everywhere has a role in developing the country. It is true that along the way there will definitely be pros and cons to policies and programs aimed at reducing poverty from the government, but this is a common thing and most people will instead blame the government if the issue fails and does not go according to target. what have been tried as you said.

    So, this is where the sense and awareness of individuals and society is important to work together to make it a success so that the problem is reduced to the bottom and does not become a new problem without a solution.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: mamesso on November 18, 2023, 04:12:36 AM
    only we are fully responsible for our lives, I will never depend my life on the government, it's better for me to work hard myself so that my future is better than now, the government is just administration, they are not a group of people who can make a lot jobs, especially if they fail to attract investors for investment. let's fight for our own lives, the government only cares about their own stomachs.
    I agree with you, It's true that it's not a government responsibility for us to become successful in life and to end a poverty but they are the one who can do or implement such things just to help us to overcome the poverty in our society. I mean, we are the one who makes our future so better to work hard for ourself so we can achieve more and do not depend everything in the government.
    The government is only limited to helping reduce poverty by creating jobs, stabilizing the purchase value of basic necessities so that it matches the salaries received by people at the end of each month. However, the government's role will not be effective if the person concerned does not try to change his life for the better.
    Our future is in our hands, everyone has a responsibility towards a better future. Relying on the government is just a waste of time, without efforts to change lives for the better, the role of government will not function for a long time.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: Rabata on November 18, 2023, 06:48:57 AM
    Everyone everywhere has a role in developing the country. It is true that along the way there will definitely be pros and cons to policies and programs aimed at reducing poverty from the government, but this is a common thing and most people will instead blame the government if the issue fails and does not go according to target. what have been tried as you said.

    So, this is where the sense and awareness of individuals and society is important to work together to make it a success so that the problem is reduced to the bottom and does not become a new problem without a solution.
    Yep, a single effort by the government alone will never succeed in eradicating poverty in a country unless the people of that country come forward. However, the government can take various steps in poverty alleviation such as new initiatives and programs where the public has to come forward to implement those programs and initiatives and fully support the government.

    The government of a country can continue its efforts by implementing various initiatives such as financial assistance, food assistance, construction of roads, infrastructure facilities. However, with this effort of the government, the common people must have to support. They have to be supported by the people of the country in various steps of the government.

    Everyone should come from the individual level and not just wait for government help. If these types of work can be done properly by both the government and the people, then it will be easy to eradicate this poverty.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: knowngunman on November 18, 2023, 07:17:03 AM
    I agree with you, It's true that it's not a government responsibility for us to become successful in life and to end a poverty but they are the one who can do or implement such things just to help us to overcome the poverty in our society. I mean, we are the one who makes our future so better to work hard for ourself so we can achieve more and do not depend everything in the government.

    The truth is poverty is natural and can not be completely get rid of, although, it can be reduced to barest minimum with certain actions of government and the individuals as well. Actually, the government can play a role in helping to alleviate poverty but individuals should also take responsibility for their own success. Of course, I know that not everyone has equal opportunities and there are systemic barriers that can make it difficult to break the cycle of poverty but it's also important to focus on what you can do to improve your own situation. However, whatever the case maybe, government has a greater role to play for the citizens. It's not possible to provide everyone with job but at least they can protect and make the environment convenient for them in order to succeed in whatever they choose to do.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 19, 2023, 08:49:05 AM
    I agree with you, It's true that it's not a government responsibility for us to become successful in life and to end a poverty but they are the one who can do or implement such things just to help us to overcome the poverty in our society. I mean, we are the one who makes our future so better to work hard for ourself so we can achieve more and do not depend everything in the government.

    Depending for everything on government means that we are not able to take step for ourselves. All responsibilities should not be put on government because our financial systems are not in their hand. Every person will make their financial system better by themselves because if we set without doing nothing then we will become useless. If a person cannot earn for himself and for his family then I think keeping hope from government is also not better for him. Earning and completing our needs are just our job not of government. Government will just keep check on country's conditions now its up to us that we are willing to live a wealthy life or a life in which we are depended on government for everything.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: boty on November 19, 2023, 11:24:20 AM
    Depending for everything on government means that we are not able to take step for ourselves. All responsibilities should not be put on government because our financial systems are not in their hand. Every person will make their financial system better by themselves because if we set without doing nothing then we will become useless. If a person cannot earn for himself and for his family then I think keeping hope from government is also not better for him. Earning and completing our needs are just our job not of government. Government will just keep check on country's conditions now its up to us that we are willing to live a wealthy life or a life in which we are depended on government for everything.
    I agree with you, we have full responsibility for our financial condition and we must be able to manage it well so that whatever income we have we can still meet our needs.
    In my opinion, it would be better for us to work on our own to be able to meet the needs we need and do whatever work we can as long as we don't violate the rules in our place of residence.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: red4slash on November 19, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
    I agree with you, It's true that it's not a government responsibility for us to become successful in life and to end a poverty but they are the one who can do or implement such things just to help us to overcome the poverty in our society. I mean, we are the one who makes our future so better to work hard for ourself so we can achieve more and do not depend everything in the government.

    The truth is poverty is natural and can not be completely get rid of, although, it can be reduced to barest minimum with certain actions of government and the individuals as well. Actually, the government can play a role in helping to alleviate poverty but individuals should also take responsibility for their own success. Of course, I know that not everyone has equal opportunities and there are systemic barriers that can make it difficult to break the cycle of poverty but it's also important to focus on what you can do to improve your own situation. However, whatever the case maybe, government has a greater role to play for the citizens. It's not possible to provide everyone with job but at least they can protect and make the environment convenient for them in order to succeed in whatever they choose to do.
    We cannot separate the individual and the government in solving or reducing poverty. The government plays a very important role in this and the individual also has a role to play. The government must be able to provide facilities that will support its people, and the people must also work hard to use the facilities properly. They have policies, and those policies can be one way to encourage poverty to be reduced.
    To blame each other in my opinion is not appropriate at all, because after all this will not be separated from both, both from the government and from the individual himself.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: demonica on November 19, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
    For me, ending poverty feels like it's close to being impossible. Cause having different social status balances the economy.  Also aside from that, I've never heard of any country having no records of poverty so I feel there will always be included in this class. It will just depend on the population or the percentage of people in the lower class for every country. A good governance can reduce poverty in its nation but I kinda doubt that they can completely "end" it even if other rich people would help trying to resolve this long ongoing issue of poverty.

    And for us individually, we can't fully rely on the government to help us get out of poverty. We also need to act on our own if we want to have a good life.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: glendall on November 19, 2023, 01:29:06 PM
    Actually, the fault is not 100% the government's fault, it all goes back to the people themselves, they are enthusiastic about changing their lives or just hope for help from the government to change their lives,
    So if you want to get out of the poverty line, work harder and try to create jobs, so you can get out of the poverty zone.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on November 19, 2023, 01:46:32 PM
    For me, ending poverty feels like it's close to being impossible. Cause having different social status balances the economy.  Also aside from that, I've never heard of any country having no records of poverty so I feel there will always be included in this class. It will just depend on the population or the percentage of people in the lower class for every country. A good governance can reduce poverty in its nation but I kinda doubt that they can completely "end" it even if other rich people would help trying to resolve this long ongoing issue of poverty.

    And for us individually, we can't fully rely on the government to help us get out of poverty. We also need to act on our own if we want to have a good life.

    I think that's the point "e also need to act on our own if we want to have a good life." Now. If the effect of dependence becomes greater, laziness will come and changes in fate will always take place.

    On the other hand, the government, if there are people who want and have the intention to move forward, there will always be programs that will be launched in terms of development. but it's up to you if you want to take it or reject it,


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: nara1892 on November 19, 2023, 03:03:36 PM
    Actually, the fault is not 100% the government's fault, it all goes back to the people themselves, they are enthusiastic about changing their lives or just hope for help from the government to change their lives,
    So if you want to get out of the poverty line, work harder and try to create jobs, so you can get out of the poverty zone.

    Yes, basically we should not depend on other people including help from the government, although yes there is some help from the government but it is very rare and maybe only at certain times. The rest of course is the problem of each individual, it makes no sense if they want to get out of the poverty zone but only rely or hope for help from others such as the government. Therefore yes as you said that the government will not be able to change your life 100% but maybe they can only help at certain times to give you help.

    The point is not to put too much hope in the help of others, especially to change your life, it seems unreasonable. Of course, there is no other way unless you work harder or add more work to increase your income, that's the only way that makes sense and that can guarantee a change in your life. So try to think more realistically.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: Bloodseekers on November 19, 2023, 03:30:21 PM
    I think that's the point "e also need to act on our own if we want to have a good life." Now. If the effect of dependence becomes greater, laziness will come and changes in fate will always take place.

    On the other hand, the government, if there are people who want and have the intention to move forward, there will always be programs that will be launched in terms of development. but it's up to you if you want to take it or reject it,
    Having a good life is everyone's desire, but if we expect it from other people, of course this will not be good for us and also very few people want to help us easily, so it would be better for us to try on our own to have a good life without relying on it with other people.
    The government has indeed provided programs for people who want to develop themselves, but there are some people who make it difficult to get these programs, so there are some people who are lazy about choosing these programs.


    Title: Re: Is the government can really make a way to end poverty or it depends on us?
    Post by: ivankoh on November 19, 2023, 03:43:44 PM
    Actually, the fault is not 100% the government's fault, it all goes back to the people themselves, they are enthusiastic about changing their lives or just hope for help from the government to change their lives,
    So if you want to get out of the poverty line, work harder and try to create jobs, so you can get out of the poverty zone.
    I agree. Each person's awareness and responsibility is to strive to overcome poverty, that is the duty of every person. That should not be blamed 100% on the government. Even though they have problems of corruption, appropriation of people's property..., and that is also the fault of the government and also comes from people. 1/3 of the world's population is still in difficulty and poverty. That is the reality. The bad thing is that policies to solve poverty only achieve bad results, the gap between rich and poor increases.