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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: cryptocoinsinfo on April 12, 2023, 06:37:10 PM



Title: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: cryptocoinsinfo on April 12, 2023, 06:37:10 PM
Limbo & Dice Simulator

It's just a small simulator, but a good tool for simulating Limbo or Dice lose/win streaks.

Give it a try: https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/ (https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/)

An advanced version with inc/dec on win/lose and stop on win/lose is comming soon.


Btw: It's a real eye opener for people who like to wager at 1.01x.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 12, 2023, 06:47:46 PM
i just try it but it seems the simulation is not real because every time i start the simulation it just gives the same results
i thought every simulation will be given different results


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: iv4n on April 12, 2023, 07:04:55 PM
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It's just a small simulator, but a good tool for simulating Limbo or Dice lose/win streaks.
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An advanced version with inc/dec on win/lose and stop on win/lose is comming soon.

Btw: It's a real eye opener for people who like to wager at 1.01x.

I like simulators, and I tried different ones. It's for people who like auto-betting in general, especially for people like me who gamble with different coins...

https://i.postimg.cc/zfGMSB4m/image.png

Well, this basic simulation is really basic, not bad... 39 loss streak at x3.5 is more than possible in million bets, it can be even higher. ;)

But I like when the simulator has other options, I guess we will see those options in advanced mode, which is coming. Looking forward to that.

By the way, every time we try the simulator we will be redirected to some casino. I don't mind, but some people don't like those things.

Good luck! I hope you will finish advanced mode.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: ryzaadit on April 12, 2023, 08:38:24 PM
I don't know if people are still gonna use the simulator.

So, far I know right now "CASINO" supported any kind of bet with 0$ bets. That's mean, we can tested any kind of game from the casino without any single money the the hash and every game is actually live result from casino.

Due the tested it's not from test game but from the live version game installed on the casino. One of example casino who supported a bet with 0$ bet are "STAKE".


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 12, 2023, 08:57:29 PM
I don't know if people are still gonna use the simulator.

So, far I know right now "CASINO" supported any kind of bet with 0$ bets. That's mean, we can tested any kind of game from the casino without any single money the the hash and every game is actually live result from casino.

Due the tested it's not from test game but from the live version game installed on the casino. One of example casino who supported a bet with 0$ bet are "STAKE".

although stake supports a 0$ bet, we don't know how many winning/losing streaks we have during the test, and you will be bored to see the auto roll if you want to try 50k~100k bets
only if we use a bot and we will know about that stats


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: Hispo on April 12, 2023, 09:00:29 PM
I don't know if people are still gonna use the simulator.

So, far I know right now "CASINO" supported any kind of bet with 0$ bets. That's mean, we can tested any kind of game from the casino without any single money the the hash and every game is actually live result from casino.

Due the tested it's not from test game but from the live version game installed on the casino. One of example casino who supported a bet with 0$ bet are "STAKE".

Correct, I have personally wager 0$ on Stake's Plinko before for testing purposes.
I think the purpose of simulators is having more specialized statistics/graphs and data which some casino may not readily provide (beyond the numbers of wins and losses), also the use of "testing money" to track one's "profit".

And to be honest with you if I was running a testing session on an actual casino and for pure chance I happened to hit a jackpot while wagering 0$, it would ruin my week.  ;)


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: ryzaadit on April 12, 2023, 09:42:18 PM
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Hey.

You can use "Seuntjies DiceBot": https://bot.seuntjie.com/ feel free to check on there. They have a few feature things like lose streak, and other think you can see from the bot. You just need API from the casino it self.

Even Forum Admin Stake: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/2545-dice-bot-in-stake/?do=findComment&comment=35934 suggested the bot. I don't think using a simulation are not good, but right now since the casino support 0$ bet. I's better to test on real-live betting with 0$, to get a live-date from a real gambling from the casino.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: piebeyb on April 12, 2023, 10:19:42 PM
I'm just testing the simulator, you happen to be happy with the Limbo game, I try to start with the amount of the bet for the payout / target x1.10, the fewer consecutive losses, but if I increase the bet for the x10 or x5 target, it actually gets more consecutive losses, even though this is only a simulator, but sometimes it's like what I experienced when playing. I will try this simulator later while testing the game directly too, who knows I might find a new strategy to play even though I know it's hard to beat the dealer. lol


Btw , please update anything to continue your version of the simulator it might look helpful to anyone wanting to test it , to be honest it was useful to me because I happen to like Limbo games too , I would love to keep track of this thread to see your simulator progress and see peoples experiences too other discussions from the forum community here.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: tusandii on April 13, 2023, 07:53:01 AM
i just try it but it seems the simulation is not real because every time i start the simulation it just gives the same results
i thought every simulation will be given different results
I actually never tried it at all because I know that using such a simulation will not give good results and indeed I don't believe that the simulation can run as we want.
Besides, I also don't really like or play dice and limbo too often.
There may be some gamblers who would use this simulation for a game of dice and limbo but I'm sure they will not benefit from playing using a simulation.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: coin.princess on April 13, 2023, 10:34:52 AM
I think if you could add something like the auto bet where it would simulate some of the players strategy it would be more effective, I hope that was what on the advance mode. I think this is useful to see your odds on winning and losing after those number of bets. I tried $2 and my target at 1000x surprisingly here's the result:

Bankroll at start
1,000.00000000
Final Bankroll
-2,000.00000000
Max. Bankroll
1,912.00000000
Min. Bankroll
-3,132.00000000

It's not really a good idea to do this kind of strategy.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 13, 2023, 05:27:55 PM
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Hey.

You can use "Seuntjies DiceBot": https://bot.seuntjie.com/ feel free to check on there. They have a few feature things like lose streak, and other think you can see from the bot. You just need API from the casino it self.

Even Forum Admin Stake: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/2545-dice-bot-in-stake/?do=findComment&comment=35934 suggested the bot. I don't think using a simulation are not good, but right now since the casino support 0$ bet. I's better to test on real-live betting with 0$, to get a live-date from a real gambling from the casino.

i know that bot too, right now I'm using another bot that has simulation balance too.
i can create a script from that simulation balance and try it on a real balance when the script is working


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: jostorres on April 13, 2023, 06:31:33 PM
It's just a small simulator, but a good tool for simulating Limbo or Dice lose/win streaks.

Give it a try: https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/ (https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/)

An advanced version with inc/dec on win/lose and stop on win/lose is comming soon.


Btw: It's a real eye opener for people who like to wager at 1.01x.
It isn't bad but can be better with more features and options, and your post says that it's a simulator for both Limbo and Dice but when I checked on the website, there is no option to select Dice, the dropdown from the left side of the website only shows Limbo. Is that an issue or Dice hasn't been added yet and you will add it later?

I never play Limbo but I like playing Dice at times, and it would be nice to have a simulator for that, especially if it has the feature to select strategies too like Martingale where the bet is doubled after every loss. That will be fun to play around with.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: FatFork on April 14, 2023, 08:40:54 AM
Great to see some fellow simulator fans here!  :)

I've also tried out a bunch of different simulators, and I totally agree that this one isn't bad but can be better with more features and options. Personally, I'm not a fan of being redirected to a casino every time I try the simulator. It can be annoying, so I had to block the site from opening new tabs. ;) I think it would be better if you use banners to promote your referral links and leave the option to the users whether they want to click on them or not. It's okay to have some promotions, but not at the expense of the user experience.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: coin.princess on April 14, 2023, 08:50:08 AM
Personally, I'm not a fan of being redirected to a casino every time I try the simulator.
I think that's the way he can get profit for using his website but I agree with you as that could be a little annoying but still tolerable, adding more features is also a good way to improve your simulator.

I agree with FatFork instead of popup link or redirect link, I think it is much better if you will put banners in your site the advantage of that is you can have multiple banners meaning multiple people that would advertise to your website but the only disadvantage I see about that is it would look like a graffiti wall and of course some of it will have animations which could be annoying too.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: pawanjain on April 14, 2023, 04:24:35 PM
i just try it but it seems the simulation is not real because every time i start the simulation it just gives the same results
i thought every simulation will be given different results

You are actually right. Even I thought it would generate different outcomes very time based on the provable fair algorithm.
At first I tried the simulator with different number of bets but after reading your post I used the same number of bets again and the result was same.
It's not really useful has it's just a dummy simulator I would say. It should have incorporated provably fair algorithm and generated different outcomes based on that.
Then it would have been useful and would bring value to the table.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: AbuBhakar on April 14, 2023, 04:29:38 PM
Limbo & Dice Simulator

It's just a small simulator, but a good tool for simulating Limbo or Dice lose/win streaks.

Give it a try: https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/ (https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/)

An advanced version with inc/dec on win/lose and stop on win/lose is comming soon.


Btw: It's a real eye opener for people who like to wager at 1.01x.

What is the essence of doing simulation on limbo if the game is pure random without any winning percentage available to do some calculation for the probability of winning. Casino offers a demo mode on Limbo games which equivalent to the simulation you are offering.

I see no point on simulating this game because practice won’t change the outcome of your future games since there is no data being analyze here but just pure instinct on when to cashout.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: nakamura12 on April 14, 2023, 04:41:45 PM
I don't know if people wants to use simulator but after testing the site in mobile phones, there's a problem with it like the overlapping numbers of the bankroll and it would be nice when you start the simulator then it will show the results because every time you start it will always redirect you to the casinos where you can play the game. It seems I am not the only one who doesn't like being redirected to a casino every time trying the simulator.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: bitbollo on April 14, 2023, 06:15:57 PM
a tool like this, has a clear educational and statistical purpose because it helps to visualize in a practical way "what to expect from a long series of plays". (due RTP more you play ...more you lose ;D ) 
I'm curious to know... in this type of tool, how is "randomness" generated in this type of calculation?


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 14, 2023, 06:36:19 PM
I see no point on simulating this game because practice won’t change the outcome of your future games since there is no data being analyze here but just pure instinct on when to cashout.

for me, simulation has a few good things as long the simulation is not like the website this site offers.
simulation game for me is just a way to make a good script because in simulation I can make a script and see if the script is good or bad.
if the script I make Is good then i can try it using my balance.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: jostorres on April 14, 2023, 07:00:30 PM
I think if you could add something like the auto bet where it would simulate some of the players strategy it would be more effective, I hope that was what on the advance mode. I think this is useful to see your odds on winning and losing after those number of bets. I tried $2 and my target at 1000x surprisingly here's the result:

Bankroll at start
1,000.00000000
Final Bankroll
-2,000.00000000
Max. Bankroll
1,912.00000000
Min. Bankroll
-3,132.00000000

It's not really a good idea to do this kind of strategy.
There is an upcoming advance feature. If the one that you suggest is not included there, maybe it will still be added on the next update as I think suggestions are welcome here. By using this tool, I think it only gives a close overview but it may not be accurate or the values that we can see can change depending on the flow of our luck so we must not take it seriously.

We must not be discourage and we must not be too excited. Just gamble with the intention of having fun only and then by using the amount that you can afford to lose and we will be just fine. I already done your strat before but using a dollar only. I can sometimes hit 1k.xx multis but only on rare occasions due to limited bankroll. I only do 15 to 20 bets.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: Chikito on April 15, 2023, 03:47:07 AM
Give it a try: https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/ (https://www.cryptogrinder.io/limbo-simulator/)
That too many ads click there, I will be okay if once, but if too many (when I click star simulator), that is such.
So, this makes you not maximize sharing the information, you just want people to come to your site and click ads.
I tried a bit and did not observe in detail, so if we get the same result as said it's no use at all, and this stimulatory function is not effective as used than play on the real casino.

Where the FAQ?


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: Negotiation on April 15, 2023, 01:08:26 PM
I see no point on simulating this game because practice won’t change the outcome of your future games since there is no data being analyze here but just pure instinct on when to cashout.

for me, simulation has a few good things as long the simulation is not like the website this site offers.
simulation game for me is just a way to make a good script because in simulation I can make a script and see if the script is good or bad.
if the script I make Is good then i can try it using my balance.

I agree with the simulation game making better scripts as the simulation game that uses cryptocurrency has improved with each passing year. As this game is based on a sustainable economy, players keep gaming and their crypto players develop their own crypto farms and fun games.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 15, 2023, 05:29:06 PM
I agree with the simulation game making better scripts as the simulation game that uses cryptocurrency has improved with each passing year. As this game is based on a sustainable economy, players keep gaming and their crypto players develop their own crypto farms and fun games.

btw someone from my bot community uses a simulation to make a script and was able to create a script that can wager from 100x to 300x from the script he makes.
and when he tries it using real money with the script and he can wager almost the same as when he uses the simulation.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: Hispo on April 15, 2023, 07:45:14 PM
I agree with the simulation game making better scripts as the simulation game that uses cryptocurrency has improved with each passing year. As this game is based on a sustainable economy, players keep gaming and their crypto players develop their own crypto farms and fun games.

btw someone from my bot community uses a simulation to make a script and was able to create a script that can wager from 100x to 300x from the script he makes.
and when he tries it using real money with the script and he can wager almost the same as when he uses the simulation.

I do not want to per-judge, because I do not know that person or the that person in that group. I assume he is not claiming to get consistent gains because his script, isn't he?
I would be very careful with someone who claims to get constant wins out of a casino using a special script they developed. I have personally reached  point in my crypto path tat I assume anything someone says in a Telegram or Discord group to be BS and likely a scam.

I am not saying that is the case with the guy, though. He may be just lucky, otherwise, he may be trying to impress possible victims to sell his magical script.
I would not fall for it.  ::)


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 15, 2023, 08:38:21 PM
I do not want to per-judge, because I do not know that person or the that person in that group. I assume he is not claiming to get consistent gains because his script, isn't he?
I would be very careful with someone who claims to get constant wins out of a casino using a special script they developed. I have personally reached  point in my crypto path tat I assume anything someone says in a Telegram or Discord group to be BS and likely a scam.

I am not saying that is the case with the guy, though. He may be just lucky, otherwise, he may be trying to impress possible victims to sell his magical script.
I would not fall for it.  ::)

actually, he shared his script for free in my community and I already tested the script that he has.
i even try it using a low balance of around 5$ every time and from that 5$ I am able to wager around 3k$.
that time may be my lucky day to get that much because I usually just get a 500$ wager from 5$ balance.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 15, 2023, 08:49:03 PM
...
It's just a small simulator, but a good tool for simulating Limbo or Dice lose/win streaks.
...
An advanced version with inc/dec on win/lose and stop on win/lose is comming soon.

Btw: It's a real eye opener for people who like to wager at 1.01x.

I like simulators, and I tried different ones. It's for people who like auto-betting in general, especially for people like me who gamble with different coins...

https://i.postimg.cc/zfGMSB4m/image.png

Well, this basic simulation is really basic, not bad... 39 loss streak at x3.5 is more than possible in million bets, it can be even higher. ;)

But I like when the simulator has other options, I guess we will see those options in advanced mode, which is coming. Looking forward to that.

By the way, every time we try the simulator we will be redirected to some casino. I don't mind, but some people don't like those things.

Good luck! I hope you will finish advanced mode.

While I totally agree with the annoying redirection (I assume its for referral marketing income purposes?), I would actually say its a good thing that it is basic. Basic means less bugs and less can go wrong. As long as all the most important main parts are included, thats really all we need. Building on the basic groundwork, fixing bugs and slowly working your way up is way better than a finished, complex simulation from the start. This way he can account for human error and community needs as he builds the next stages of the simulator.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 15, 2023, 09:01:33 PM
I do not want to per-judge, because I do not know that person or the that person in that group. I assume he is not claiming to get consistent gains because his script, isn't he?
I would be very careful with someone who claims to get constant wins out of a casino using a special script they developed. I have personally reached  point in my crypto path tat I assume anything someone says in a Telegram or Discord group to be BS and likely a scam.

I am not saying that is the case with the guy, though. He may be just lucky, otherwise, he may be trying to impress possible victims to sell his magical script.
I would not fall for it.  ::)

actually, he shared his script for free in my community and I already tested the script that he has.
i even try it using a low balance of around 5$ every time and from that 5$ I am able to wager around 3k$.
that time may be my lucky day to get that much because I usually just get a 500$ wager from 5$ balance.
^That is a very lucky story but for me, I don't how can I able to manage that from a small amount to a big one.
The most I don't like in using a simulator is the difficulty in verifying results, with physical dice, players can easily verify the results of a roll by examining the dice. A dice simulator may not display the actual numbers rolled or provide any way for players to verify the results, leading to questions about the fairness of the game. However, OP gave a free one which is probably worth it to try but for now, I don't have enough funds to test the OP free dice simulator.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: entebah on April 15, 2023, 09:26:20 PM
^That is a very lucky story but for me, I don't how can I able to manage that from a small amount to a big one.

yeah, at that time it was very lucky for me to get a 3K wager from 5$ balance.

The most I don't like in using a simulator is the difficulty in verifying results, with physical dice, players can easily verify the results of a roll by examining the dice. A dice simulator may not display the actual numbers rolled or provide any way for players to verify the results, leading to questions about the fairness of the game. However, OP gave a free one which is probably worth it to try but for now, I don't have enough funds to test the OP free dice simulator.

actually, you don't need any balance to test the website. You just need to set how many your bankroll, payout, bet size, and a number of bets.
and currently, the website only has a limbo simulator not a dice simulator.


Title: Re: Limbo and Dice Simulator
Post by: Johnyz on April 15, 2023, 09:32:07 PM
I agree with the simulation game making better scripts as the simulation game that uses cryptocurrency has improved with each passing year. As this game is based on a sustainable economy, players keep gaming and their crypto players develop their own crypto farms and fun games.

btw someone from my bot community uses a simulation to make a script and was able to create a script that can wager from 100x to 300x from the script he makes.
and when he tries it using real money with the script and he can wager almost the same as when he uses the simulation.
Simulation can be good once you’ve done this the right way, this may take a lot of work but its possible to work though of course it doesn’t increase the probability of winning since this is still a gambling and dice game usually is a game of luck. Haven’t tried the link of OP since I’m hesitant but if its working perfectly to some then its a big help stay on track.