Bitcoin Forum

I have been buying stuff through ebay for christmas (I picked up some original Transformers and Steve Jackson's Illuminati). I have started to ask the seller "Do you accept payment in bitcoins?" before bidding now.

I don't explain bitcoins, I just leave it as that. Basically implying that everyone knows what they are. When asked I would of course give an explanation and probably point them over to weusecoins.com.  I would also set them up with a simple wallet, so they at least have somewhere to take payment (strongcoin or instawallet).

Just a little effort to infect society with the idea that everyone else is doing something, and maybe you should too.

I like that.

Imagine if people, when first asking about Paypal, endeavored into a lengthy discussion of paypal server systems and payment network. Maybe paypal would never have caught on :)

Maybe it's like the phenomenon that when someone tries to tell you something, it's not interesting... but if you hear about that very thing, you'll be interested in learning.

Yep, I think it is important to treat bitcoin as a boring everyday term. Let people ask questions if they have them. If you use a term as though it is typical, some people might not think much of it, and just ask how to accept it. I would focus on the practical matters of handling bitcoins, and avoid all of the stuff that excites us about it unless asked.

Here is to a future where bitcoins are as uninteresting as pencils. (raises glass)

This is a great approach! I've thought about the same thing, I need to sell something soon on a Finnish equivalent of eBay and I decided to also accept bitcoins as payment. The approach will be similar to yours.

Yep, it only makes sense for people who embrace Bitcoin to do this. I usually let people know I also take bitcoins, gold, and/or silver in place of cash. I'm convinced that these will be the monetary base of the world in the near future.

@robkohr - You might have already thought of this, but merchants not wanting to deal with the bitcoin exchange rate can also be pointed toward BitPay, so the whole thing is seamless for them. I can't think of a good reason for any retailer or merchant to NOT take bitcoins with that option available.

I do the same thing. Basically, play "rope-a-dope" dumb with them as if of course you know about Bitcoin and do you accept it sort of thing.

It works brilliantly because they look it up on their own  ;D

Similarly, when I list things on eBay, I put a "If you would like to pay with Bitcoins, contact me for a quote" line at the bottom.

I was thinking of a common string for people on ebay & craigslist and such to use that accept bitcoin (so that it makes a handy search term).

"Bitcoin Accepted" seems to make sense.

I can also see:

"Bitcoin Accepted : At mtgox rate at end of auction"

or

"Bitcoin Accepted : 1 BTC = $3"

The second seems much better since it avoids looking up ugly conversion rates at specific times after the fact.

For searching on this term, "Bitcoin Accepted" needs to be in the title (ebay doesn't search the description by default). You can check the box that searches the description as well, but I wouldn't rely on consumers to do that.


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On a side note, I also emailed Pandora support to see if I can pay them in bitcoins to upgrade my account. Keep in mind that their is a lot of knowledge of bitcoins in Silicon Valley, and emailing startups to see if you can pay them in bitcoins for service might not be as big of a deal as trying to get some other large business operation to take them.

Heck, their is a decent chance that you may end up paying the CEO/CTO directly for the service and him updating you in the database himself. Startups are rather short on hierarchy.

My purpose isn't to draw in people who already use bitcoins, but rather to get more people curious about it.  That's why it is in the auction body, not the title.

I figure anyone who is looking for Bitcoin-specific auctions on eBay would do a Title & Description search, knowing that not all sellers who accept Bitcoin also put it in the title.

Since the price of BTC has been relatively stable recently, it'd probably be fine to do a "Bitcoin Accepted : 1 BTC = $3" statement.  I might give that a try next time.

Good approach Rob.  I think I'll start doing this.

I just revised my auction on ebay (5 Ron Paul Bitcoin cheques) with that text:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130613951333

How about something along the lines of:
"A small discount can be given to customers paying with bitcoins because of the low fees and ease for me as a seller."

Not only does it spark curiosity, it also includes important selling points.

I do the same thing. Then when they say "what are bitcoins?", I give them a judgmental look of pity.     :-[

EBay sellers are not allowed (http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/methods.html#other) to accept bitcoin.

Well, actually it does seem to say that.

Well, you are right. Seems like they don't allow any non-reversible payment methods based on that list. I guess this is so a consumer can always charge you back when you fail to deliver the goods. It probably saves them a lot of trouble, as they don't have do anything to stop shady sellers.

Which means that they will never likely take bitcoin. What a shame.

If someone sends me bitcoins, I will send them the goods. If they pay me in paypal, I will send them the goods. Their rules are to protect the buyer, not the seller, and if someone is willing to trust me to send me a non-reversible transaction, I have no problem with that.

I've been doing this for what? the past 6 months, if not longer, the usual reply is either, no reply at all or just an answer like 'no we accept paypal only'

Keep doing it. If you get someone to complete a transaction, than bravo. Right now, the goal is to raise awareness and give the nagging feeling of leaving money on the table by merchants.

The physical bitcoin products (e.g., Casascius, PrintCoins.com, etc.) and/or the mobile wallets lets you try this when buying in-person.