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Personality and reasoning vary but I will say my mind. And to avoid drawing the attention of external people on the forum, I will not put @name.

I'm dragged into this because I wrote a topic on the meta section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449138.0) on Monday tackling what a legendary rank member (I didn't want to tag such) wrote about AI-generated content. This was because a very good writer could be affected by his detection-suggested approach. The reply of people however encouraged me to do a little detective task on the forum on this subject for the first time, and sincerely, I'm not happy with my investigation.

70% of the 10 accounts tested guilty (though new ones) have identified with us by writing on our board. After using AI-detection sites and ChatGPT, I still proceeded to carefully study the posts manually to deliver my verdict. The plagiarism is much even as some of these posts had already been declared AI-generated by other users before me. I find this implicating, and I advise us to stop it.

I'm not accusing anybody, yet it's obvious, the little way we can behave ourselves and uphold the image of the country should be utilised. We all abuse politicians and others here, craving for a change, but are we good ambassadors too?

You will be surprised that some of these people are even more brilliant and vast than those that write well by themselves. But laziness and trying to cheat and outsmart everywhere they find themselves make them do it.

Let's stop the selfish and I-don't-care attitude that has cost us and our country so much pain.

Thanks!

Although some members recommend good English on this forum, but truthfully I do not see myself as an excellent English speaking person. I do not use any AI because I know the English I was taught in school with the little that I can use to communicate is enough for even a native English person to understand what I am communicating which is all that matters to me. I am 0% dependent on AI.

Thanks @ EarnOnvictor for this update, because it is the best thing a brother could do that you have just done, and let he who has ear let them hear, because we all know how the forum now frown at using A.I and it will be very sad that we loses another brother or sister of ours to this careless habit. So on that note I will advise those who think they are not that good in English to download this app called "Grammarly", as it will go a long way in helping improve your English writing, which is more safer and better than using an A.I assistant.

You have spoken well my brother, but i want to know if the post was created by our brother or sister?
Because of lately such issues have been discussed to stop AI content generated posting or even copying and paste from other website without the provision of original content link. Even to an extent Satoshi offering some free-will donation for our newbies and member ranks to increase their posting format in other to be qualify and whomever that posts very good will be rewarded according to thread. So i wonder why will any of us try using AI to post or even create content.

As a matter of fact, i try my possible best to use a common english language that will be easily to reader by everyone, The arm of english language is for us to be able to communicates one another and if that is being achieved i don't know why people should go extra-mile trying to explore AI to please or satisfy the reader. To me english in Nigeria is a borrowed Language and all we should do is to be able to effectively communicate here without any tools or pleasing the reader, I myself don't use any tools to write despite the level of my education yet i still try my best to create and communicate with people, even seeing people here says my posts are not quality enough yet i didn't get discouraged any way.

The peso wey the use Al write post em d use am under what? Make d clap for am say em English d sound, or make them give am merits join. I say make I ask?

Ever since I know sae this forum no need much for peso to be a member other than for person to abide by the rules and regulation and make good post, em d good to go. I no d even bug myself ever since I no sae na wetin the forum need. Taking unnecessary step just to prove a point for the forum which is not necessary than to  communicate what others  will understand in a simple English, employing an external help for the forum no go ever make sense

Em bam as you carry the matter come here so. So that our brodas and sisters wey d do am, or about to do am, no go reason to use AI-generated content to post for the forum so

The truth bi say the forum no too send your English Language. No bi like say I dey encourage people to dey write scatter scatter English, but wetin the forum need na for you to make sense even if your grammar no too sound.
So I no see any reason why people dey use the AI stuff to arrange their post. In fact I don see some of my post wey the grammar bend small dey get merit pass some wey I use Grammarly arrange. The koko bi say you make you try your best and leave the rest for God.

Another thing bi say people feel say na when your write long post na him go get the right attention so dem wan use AI arrange their post. But na lie, if your post dey short like Zacchaeus for Bible but eh make sense something fit drop for you. My general advice bi say make we carry load wey we fit carry. If you know say you no go fit feed more than one pikin well well make you no give your wife belle.

You know say anybodi when just new register account here for this forum the first thing when dey come thier mind nah how to earn merits, so most of them now Kon dey reason say dem fit bypass the normal process by using AI to generate ideas and also to generate answers to certain post.
Sometimes, if I dey proofread post when I make and I notice some mistakes for maybe spellings or grammar, I dey purposely leave am like that because nobody for this world dey perfect and nah also sign say nah human being write am nor be one those AI when dey reign for everywhere.


Yes, I came across several threads and replies made by some newbies who just introduced themselves here in naija board and then ventured out into the forum to continue their learning journey, I have reported some of them and also left some probably because I had something to do at that moment.
The use of AI in this forum is becoming something else and if not controlled with the appropriate measures it's going to affect the forum in a negative way.

AI generated text firstly isn't only used by Nigerians, all other nations and persons from different social, cultural background use it.
One reason I feel Nigerians always get bad representation is the fact of not being credible, always looking to outsmart the system.
What if we infuse pidgin English into our posts, will that show it is not AI generated or will it make it more authentic?
What if we use AI generated topics or replies to questions we ask and remake a post to our advantage, will that also be called cheating or call for bad rep?
What gets me concerned the most is the deregatory remarks made by fellow Nigerians about the offices of government and their personnel or other bodies, infact, If we say nothing bad or become abusive,  we would have presented or projected the entire nation in a positive light.
It starts with me and you finally.

Thank you so much my brothers and sisters, for your correction and opinions,it is really good to correct or advise someone if he or she makes a mistake or speaks wrong english.and please we should learn to speak what we know what it means ..

It’s not coincidence that a group of new accounts that were created around the same time are all using AI to make posts. You can easily spot these accounts creating topics everywhere on the forum. And I don’t think the use of AI was because of a language barrier, it’s not a valid excuse.  Anyone who can prompt an AI must be literate and Nigeria is a English speaking country. Some of these accounts have been reported a couple of times for plagiarism, the sad part is that they have written some posts here in our board (some are plagiarized posts as well) so it makes me wonder why should one feel the need to copy content to post in his own local board.

It just surprises me that some users will go as far as using Artificial intelligence (A.I) to communicate with others in the forum, I mean for God sake we are Nigerians and I can say we are an English speaking country although the English is not fluent enough but at least every one that acquired formal education can be able to write and read which is the major in communication skills. If any nation or people are suppose to be doing this, it certainly shouldn't be us Nigerians. Nobody needs your big grammers in the forum so far as the message you are trying to pass can be understood by others, you are good to go and you can definitely participate in every area of the forum so I see no reason or use for AI. Please like our  broda has said already we all should be good ambassador representing our nations so let's all try our best on this issue and see to it that's we have a good reputation in the forum.

Wetin dey there for writing wey worth to go use AI dey generate your posts. See eh, writing in this forum just need experience. No dey stress yourself much, topic plenty to talk in and anyone wey you no sabi, let am go but go research on that topic and get yourself familiarize with am as e go surely repeat again in future and when you jam am and drop your mind, e go belike na you sabi am pass. There's no need to they spoil your chances of making a name for yourself on the forum by making use of AI or spamming.

Also make we stop all this Bitcoin got me this or dat or accepting of Bitcoin stories them wey we all know say na lie, before I been dey overlook am but now but I encourage every Nigerian should attack whoever they see lying about the use of Bitcoin in the country. See eh when this men go find out say na lie we dey do since, we go lose every credibility. Me I no dey normally write for Bitcoin discussion so I no dey see those threads but abeg as una dey see am make una question the users to prove the authenticity of those claims abeg.

It took us a long time to get people listening to what Nigerians in the forum had to say and get rewarded with merits, I know how many backlash wey men receive to make our voices stand out and today we're among the top quality posters and merited users of he forum. Make we no allow some bad eggs take this away from us.

Normally when I been check the topic of this thread na this matter wey I been think say Op talk about but thank God say @Boss still talk am here so I go talk wetin dey my mind now. Normally too much of everything no good and when lies dom plenty person no go even know when you dey serious or when you dey talk truth again, we Dom too abuse dis hustle and e don cast so make people no dey make Dem see us finish abeg, if dem attack them now e go be like say person want anybody downfall but no be so make we just try do the right things or probably get better proof to show say you really do wetin you claim say you use Bitcoin do. And as for the attack wey @CrytopreneurBrainboss talk say make we attack anyone wey lie big fat lie, I no sure say na the best thing to do rather I go encourage us to Waka pass the thread so that e no go make any sense to person wey drop am.

If you dey careful to read piple comments here in di board, you go see 4rom recent rank up Sr. Members below Ranks e get many plagiarism comments, I don see some of dem in di Hangout thread. Who been dey always dey make comments there na plagiarist im/she bi. Den anoda thing wey I go tok be sae, di newbies nai bi anoda whahala be dat, dem just dey post anyhow. Even as u don tok am like dis, those newbies e no dey hear word. Dem day do weti dem like.

My pipo, we be gud pipo normally o, I no see una abi mak I say us (mak e no b lik say I commot myself inside), we no bad lik dat bt e get som kind ways way we dey over do nd we no dey do well. I no go evn talk abt plagiarism becus, d pipo way dey try am dey reciv am hot-hot.
Where matta dey b say, som kind lynus way pipo dey drop here eh, e dey dirty d place.
Mak we try clean am up small, we better pass lik dat.

Anode tin b say, no b evry evry we go cari pour 4 here. Sometimes, u go try think am say, hw dis we pipo go tak see us, no b our own bad pass na. Anoda one na hw we cari wahala, katakata nd suffer head put 4 front. No bodi dey pity anybodi 4 here o. Any day u enta, u go collect. Mak we try dey do well nd lift d name of we nation commot 4 portor-porter.

@EarnOnVictor I gve u maximum 4 diz thread, one thing nah to notice something another thing nah how you carry pass the information, D way you carry give out the advice to the people way dy use AI sweet me,  nah the best way. dem, them self way they use the AI generated text sabi them self, you no need call their name, eh they 4 dem now to take the advise serious or dem continue to dy do watin dem dy do until the law catch dem up (which go dy very bad)

Dem just they abuse the use of the ChatGPT eh get other purpose way person fit carry ChatGPT do, like to carry am do research work etc... I no they in support of the AI, becuz of d way dem they abuse am here 4 d forum.

I no know say you sev dey see am oh, the thing dey vex me like crazy, i fit understand if one or two persons post am and e fit dey believable, but the matter don turn to regular posts from Nigerians these days and the thing come even dey embarrassing for other good people wey be Nigerians. If you no start any business wey you don dey accept Bitcoin, or if Bitcoin no help you get anything, abeg why you go they lie, it is demeaning and people wey they do am make dem stop abeg. Everybody don dey know say na all lies, yet some people are still writing more lies, make una no dey make shame catch other Nigerians abeg. Bitcoin topics choke, discuss other things wey make sense, normally person no even suppose dey lie for online forum like this, e no show class at all.

As I see this title I happy. Although wetin I been expect for the body no be wetin I see.
For the ChatGPT of a thing, I no believe say Nigerians dey use am because we dey hardworking. Anybody wey dey use am, e concern the person till forum go get rules for the matter.

My major concern na the ones wey go dey paint Nigeria and Nigerians bad for politics board. I dey personally counter those ones.
For bitcoin discussion you go see, I started accepting business post,  fish farming with bitcoin, filling station with bitcoin, the whole thing don deh plenty abeg.

Make we dey try dey careful, just go reputation board for the bought account accusation. You go see how person even try to translate pigin, but the app fail am well well.
Eyes don dey on us, make me try coordinate abeg...
Na small small dem dey use catch money. Forum no be MMM, e no dey crash, forum dey...

OP i was thinking if there is a beef going on between Nigerians here on this board when i saw this headings of yours and that was what got me attracted to reading your post here and unfortunately, it was very far from my thought. It baffles me how OP keeps complaining about this issue after knowing fully well the what Nigerians are always upto.

Of lately,  i came across a post on scam accusation board  and i was looking at the  profile  and how it got here. It pisses  me off that the rift was between two Nigerians.

Are you serious about this? Has it gotten to this extent. Lately I have not been active in our local board. Wetin com bring beef come na?
Hope say the people involved don settle.
You dey talk of scam accusation abi reputation. I never see Nigerians appear for scam accusation before. Can you send the link here. I cannot find anything of that in the scam accusation board.

People dey praise us here and we get reputable members for here too, abeg make we dey slow down how we go dey open body for oyibo make e no for backfire later.

Na all love here, since I dey forum I never see area fight before, if person enter wahala way be like oppression them dey try back am up unless say na something way dey clear say the person do am, that one na oyo.

I no know of any thread like that and I no sure say na we dey there, the only matter for reputation board I dey aware of na the account way them say person buy.

Yeah I agree  with you, the use of AI in this forum is something else, but I think is mostly done by the newbies, coming new in the forum that looks strange to them and different topics and conversations they believe the only way they could blend in is by AI to easily generate words.

As such I recommend measures been put inplace to eradicate those AI generated words because it could effect the forum negatively, come to even think of it why use AI to generate words? Is that they don't know what to say?, The little you can speak should be enough.

Me I de feel say since many people they worn and give some kind corrections against plagiarism, them don find ChatGPT as an option because e de help dem write content without stress which is very wrong because I no sure say person wey de use this AI to write content go know the exact meaning of the content.

And Again this plagiarism wey our newbies they do don de too much because now e be like say dem de notice any newbie wey don post for our thread say na from Nija him from because them know say them fit plagiarize.
So I they advise my colleagues and newbies wey de here to pls maintain and write good content it will help una learn more about this Bitcoin.

1 thing about this ChatGPT tin be say, the same way, way eh dy dy easy to detect Plagiarism nah so eh they easy too to carry detect diz AI generated text dem, bcuz some of the AI text dem no they always they inline with watin the original content they talk.. I don see most of them for diz forum no be just from our people.


Assuming say eh easy nah for us to restrict rank dem way for fit post for here till dem reach some kind rank, but dat 1 too no still dy possible bcuz no be all newbies way come here carry to use AI or Plagiarism 4 mind, 4 of dem wan learn and get knowledge 4rm d forum.. nah just to dy help who we fit help for ways way we fit help, them the ones way go go astral go go, nothing we fit do Abt am. 

This issue of plagiarism is getting out of hand and so far eyes are beginning to look into  our board and members now. This has so far dragged us into their watch list and and the heat has been on some of us. Some members could attest to the attacks on them which did not go down well with them.

Using AI is as good as you not making any statement here because the output is quite different from the normal. Some terminologies are quite different not only that, the statement from the AI does not reflect the output from a normal human statement based on the and message being passed across as it does not really reflect to what is being discussed. It is not as organic as it is supposed to be.

Any newbie that has refused to hid to advise, if caught, should be made to dance and face the music they choose to play.

You know English is not our mother tongue and it is our second language, and that is why it is a lingua franca to naija piple. 4 di plagiarism, na di newbies, and full member accounts nai dey do those things. Another thing nwey I go talk be sae na di lie wey all dis newbies dey lie for di forum nai dey cause all dis Casablancas. And those piple wey dey use  di Al ChatGPT let dem dey use well. Everything go dey stew 4 their side one day.

Truth be said it pisses off seing people talking about their country as if they are the only ones affected by the bad leader saga or unstable economy affairs battling the country, this is what is common and applicable to many part of the world, if you think your own experience is worst then try to check out on others and be grateful, there's no way everyone will be satisfied thesame time as he wishes to, as long as you're not being dependent on the government for your survival, you can always work your way out.

Yes, I totally agree with you on this very statement of yours bro say no be Naija na bad pass oh, but despite that, all I see about O.P's post is that he is just trying to be a brothers keeper trying to inform those that may not have been aware of the recent rules on the forum (i.e about use of A.I for content generation) and how his investigation made him understand that more than 70% of our people are guilty of it & should stop (i.e most especially Newbies & Member rank). So to me, still not a bad idea trying to update your country people so that don't get into trouble.

Make we no make the mistake for wetin OP talk, he no talk say na 70% of our people dey use AI, he say na 70% of the 10 accounts way he investigate dey use AI. As much as we dey get more newbies everyday for our board, we also get senior members way dey do well, the bad of some newbies no go spoil our individual efforts. I won encourage all of us especially our newbies and those way dey give them update say na here e dey hapun, make we do the right thing. E no hard make people stereotype us the way some local board don dey known for bounty hunting and account farming.

No be lie you talk at SatoPrincess, we dey put body for our own as e suppose be but, that Nolan say, person go just know watin dey con still carry en hand go cast emcef. Dat one na em no go well. At least, na very few persons for here way be say, no be person carri them come. That one follow say, you go dey updated on how area be and as e be, to behave well no suppose be wahala.

CryptSafe, abeg watin be this issue way dey fully known because, me no just follow well? If you go like ex0lain small abi na wayin go cast our people... if e be so, I no need tell you watin to do.

satoPrincess thanks for this reply, as both CryptoHeadlineNews and Doan9269 comments clearly shows that their both didnt read the post before repliyng while doan9269 comment show he just wrote from the topic since the topics clearly mentioned abused and of 9ja government on leaders image on a bad spot here on bitcointalk., but the thread is more or less about AI text generator usage, and how his personal survey and investigation fine 70% of the 10 accounts he investigated guilty, he doesn't mean he said 70% of the entire 9ja community members are guilty of AI usage.

So CryptoHeadlineNews should be clear about that, only a few newbies have been caught for AI usage here in the forum, make I no lie una, I know even know how AI is used since it is not appealing to my person since text generated from AI are easily noticeable and less read since their are not organic.

In the cryptocurrency market, AI may not be a good tool, since there is less for Development to do, most of those that could rely on such tools are articles writers who want to generate multiple texts unlike bitcointalk that doesn't require thousands charactercters just to get approved, here we just write in simple terms just to contribute to the discussions.

My problem here is that most people who thinks they are all in all , like pulling others down by believing every good and well constructed post is AI generated. I once post something in a listed manner, yet some complained that is only AI that generate such post. Let me tell you the truth, if the software used in detecting AI generated post is configured to work In a particular manner, it does not matter whether it is human written, it must definitely be tagged AI. One's post will be believed to be human written if their are some flaws which I believe is not a good criteria for such quick judgement as some do.

I also noticed that most of our people are of the behaviour of attacking others as AI generated post. If you come across post you know nothing about , just ignore and move on instead of attacking the poster because the persons idea does not match with yours.  If you have spent more years on the forum, stop attacking young users, instead help them in your capacity as some have always done.

I am not against what you said but am just trying to share more light to situations I have come across.

OP, you try for dis write up wey you create. As e go send warnin to those wey dey do such thing to correct demselves. My only problem na how you take write am. E com be like parents wey dey correct dem pikin but dey shout am make neighbours hear. Dis type na coded you for take write am. All d same, you do well.

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Dat ur talk scatter my head. I don laugh tire here because e remind me of wetin we dey talk for area.

Lol...Wetin you expect na? Na so e supposed be wit those wey truly be genuine newbies. Abi wen you first enta here you nor dey confused yourself? Nor be only Naija thing oh, I dey see am with other nationalities too. Here do me wan kain wen I first enta, make I nor lie. E nor dey dat easy to get the complete scope wen persin start at once. D only people wey fit understand am at once na newbies wey get mentors here wey dey direct their paths or those wey don already dey here com create alts.

Nor be lie you talk Mpamaegbu, true true genuine newbies go make these mistakes wey we dey complain about, na only who don get experience for here before nai go fit dey on guard to know him left from he right. E get the kind topic I go see newbie account dey make sef I go know say this one na alt. Nor be like say we nor get some sharp newbies wey dey deliver their polling unit na say na the bad ones dey loud pass. I for still like if OP been make the title on a kum kum.

English nah language wey dy sweet wen you speak am well, but make we ask our self, na our number one language?
Sometimes wen Mr BrainBoss dy drop one big grammar e dy sweet my international soul😂 (respect big man).
E no make sense to use AI spice up your post, e no jelly abeg, sometimes na follow follow dy cos am and to over do which is not good.
E go beta make we mind how we play with all those people wey get the agbakara for this forum, them sabi cover themselves but we fit cover our own probably? As OP talk about people using AI to arrange post make e sweet and the rest, I support am say nah laziness dy cos am... We get brains here but we just hate stress, abeg make we try use our strength hustle for this forum.

I no fit go above my understanding but wetin I sense there be say e dey spoil our names because this kind thing fit restriction our people wey wan go further for anything because as them always talk am say if "If one finger touches oil it surely affect the rest" so if one person do mistake them go pour am for everybody wey be 9ja for this place. Like for me I just pin around here make i know my stance first for going deeper to other places I know say I no dey restricted out there but here my leg go strong pass outside there.

I no think say A1 English de necessary for this bitcointalk, for me na how your post take make sense and relate to the topic of discussion, na im matter. Personally as new person for bitcoin, any discussion wey pass my level, I no de go near dia to post, so make I no go fall my hand for wetin pass my level.

About our naija image, I de reason say we suppose talk am as e be. Because people from oda countries sef de read about wetin de happen for the whole world, including Nigeria. For this technological age, any information de possible online. But I see point for wetin OP talk, we need to use discretion dey talk about the negative things wey de for our country.

Wetin you mean?
Because you wan please people nai make you go do wetin dy smell for this Forum?
If you no fit make sense with your own brain no go their, my brother e better say make you fall your hands oh because if you no fall your hands how you wan take improve nah? Eh?
You make mistake to get corrections, even if them laugh you continue, one day you go be baba for any topic you come across oh, no come use say AI dy help you for your post take dy mess full place wey people dy eat better jellof rice oh.
Make we believe our selves for this Forum and we go grow wella.
No support the AI English in any way abeg, even if e dy balance Post to make sense, always say no to bad thing no say e go in any way abeg

Your drawing our attention for us to be responsible and promote the image of our community is meritorious. It's paramount that we be of high esteem and encourage original thought and meaningful discussions. Let's ecourage members to contribute their own ideas and opinions as they all matter, rather than solely depending on AI-generated contenta which is really shameful and speaks so low of our community.