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What happened: AntiDolos tried to extort me by publishing bullshit review of a project where I am Co-Founder and if I pay $1000 they would give us a much higher rating. In his review that is not public yet he made a lot of false accusations, from having fake team members to faking partnerships which is just not true. Article is not yet published on their website and we got preview version of it and I guess they wanted to wait and see whether we gonna give them $1000.

Website: https://antidolos.com/
User: AntiDolos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2838673)

Backstage website https://bksbackstage.io/

One of his claims is that we (Backstage) are falsely advertising partnerships with parties that we have no connections whatsoever and that's simply not true.

https://i.imgur.com/gcWAiXP.png


For example, this is a tweet from Haash verified official account with 5.6 million followers where they mention Backstage as a place where you can buy VIP Meet & Greet tickets for their North America tour.

Backstage marketplace https://www.bkstage.io/

https://i.imgur.com/MXGWjFw.jpg
https://twitter.com/haashoficial/status/1643048481836212228?t=tnXS_HRgy33HPC8QbDgtTg&s=19


In the top right corner you can see Backstage logo as we are partners with Aspendos which is an ancient theater in Turkey that hosts shows of top world stars like Placido Domingo.

https://i.imgur.com/dQVgJqP.png
https://www.aspendos.live/


Professional UFC fighter Kelvin Gastelum published on his official Instagram account with more than 500k followers about being Backstage ambassador.

https://i.imgur.com/jO5NH1E.jpg
https://www.instagram.com/p/CerdfsiPj3a/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


Telegram message where AntiDolos asks $1000 for higher rating

https://i.imgur.com/KIWT9Jh.jpg
His telegram username @Antidolos_admin


One of the more ridiculous claims is that we "don't have token yet" while we actually wanted to fully develop business before launching the token and that's exactly why so many tokens failed-they have nothing behind it while we have a real business that is already bringing revenue and we are not in hurry to publish token and dump it on investors like majority of others are doing.

https://i.imgur.com/TGNAZq9.jpg


I could go on but I think that this is enough to prove that AntiDolos has no clue what he is talking about, didn't make a proper research and has no honest intention to protect the community.
I couldn't even care less about his review if he didn't try to actually extort me and that's when I decided to publish this so the same thing won't happen to others.

If you want to do your own research about Backstage, you can start here:

https://t.co/7165whXYbL (https://t.co/7165whXYbL)

Not that I am a big fan of NFTs, IDOs, IEOSs ICOs… you name it, but this looks like a clear extortion attempt.

I would like @AntiDolos to come to this thread and tell us why they are asking for money in exchange for a higher review score. Failure to do so in a couple of day means I will leave them a negative rating and even create a support a flag against their profile.

It's not that I don't trust your claims, but if you are going to post stuff like this about bitcointalk member than you better provide some proof of conversation and threats.
This can be posted as redacted screenshots from email, telegram or other services you used for conversation.
I would also like to hear AntiDolos side of story before making any decision here.

Well you can see the screenshot from Telegram, in which he asks for money to provide an 8+ review instead of 6.4 or whatever. I literally have the entire chat log saved with entire communications exchange in which I shared entire pitch deck with all the legal documentation about the company, Hacken audits on all tech and smart contracts, Legal opinions and all the documentation that goes to serious investors before they make a decision about investment so he can see that everything we do is more then real and true. Which I don't see the reason to post here, he can do it if he saved it, even though none of it is for public, but for investors at this stage.

Anyway it is clearly visible what he is doing and if anyone does the research on what we are and what we are doing as a company, pretty fast all his claims turn to baseless claims and open grounds for a lawsuit, if we thought that his false claims could harm our business, which we don't.

I posted this only so he doesn't do this to other people.

Based on their post they are here to expose scam ICO and NFT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2838673;sa=showPosts and you have become their target to backup and shill their platform for you to get their service yes there's extortion on this if they cannot prove that what they are posting is not true
This is bad business and unethical if they are propagating false information just to promote their service I support @Jerome Tash call to explain their side here, and prove they're right about publishing their reviews about your platform.

Yeah I see it, but that doesn't look like a threat or extortion scam to me.
We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.

Yes, but when OP declined or ignore the offer they published negative reviews of the project, will they publish that review if the project did get their service, they have a lot of projects that they've reviewed did they do the same, offering their service and when they declined they publish bad feedbacks.
They have a lot of explaining to do, or people will doubt their reviews if it's coming from extortion or if these projects really believe in their service.

But do you think that a $1k review by one service can turn such a scam project into a legit one? What is the actual potential value of your project and is your visibility marketing budget lower than $1k?

If the antidolos (unpublished) claim is untrue, then there is no need to worry about any blackmail here and move on. However I'm still curious about the antidolos investigation of this project. hehe

I saw some of the older AntiDolos reviews and I suspected that he is a shitty and lazy scambuster (I even warned him few months ago that he has to provide some proof for his claims) but it looks like his main goal is not to protect ignorant investors but to actually profit from this by offering higher rating for money.


True, we all know how these rating sites work but in my eyes AntiDolos is even worse because he presented himself here as someone who exposes scams while it looks like that is secondary thing to them and instead they are just another shitty rating site like ICObench (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1139440) that can't be trusted.

By the way, I found an interesting claim on their website. So much about being non profit media.  ;)

https://i.postimg.cc/3xT29STn/Screenshot-2023-05-04-at-08-22-40-Rating-and-Review.png


I am really looking forward to hear what he can say in his defense.

This is getting interesting the disclaimer is for readers to make the readers believe that they are independent and transparent and they are not doing paid reviews but based on the screenshots provided by OP
They just betrayed themselves, they have to go here to defend themselves or they will get tagged and their platform exposed for extortion.
This is the malpractice of many ICO reviewers, they are not going to just help projects, there's always money involved.
 

The extortion also came in form of fake review.

They're giving OP a preview of the draft they'll publish in case OP refused to pay. I peeked at their review page and see that there's no article yet about BKS, so I think the screenshot given by them --and from them, posted by OP here-- is indeed the draft.

https://i.imgur.com/gcWAiXP.png https://i.imgur.com/TGNAZq9.jpg

Given its a false information which will be published if OP refuse to pay, I think that can be considered as an extortion and not how most --honest-- rating website works.

I second this. It's a common practice, but only if you know you can't get a higher score.

E.g. if someone would give Stake a 10/10 and me a 7/10 because I don't have a specific service or provider, then that's cool, I know I can't compete with Stake.
But if someone would intentionally give me 2/10 although we both know that I'm a 7/10, and then asking for more money to get me up, then I would complain.

Additionally, if the person had previous scam accusations then I would lean more on to the "ok I'm getting scammed here" side.

I looked at this site a bit, they are completely irrelevant, and the statistics on their site say so. Obviously, the business idea here is to charge for "good reviews" for new ICOs and NFTs.


@-CryptoViking- create a red flag on this profile, it will mark the account more visibly.

I see that he did something similar in the past with the Ideaology project in this thread: Is Ideaology.io scam or a great opportunity? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298306.0) [archive (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5298306)]

First, he published a very negative review claiming that the project was too risky and worthless, with an amateur and inexperienced team.

However, after just under a month, he completely changed his story and deleted (or denied) almost all of his claims from the original review, ultimately giving the project a high 8.5/10 rating. Now, I don't know if the owners of the Ideaology project paid for a positive review, and that will be hard to prove unless they publicly admit it themselves, but realistically, what could cause such a drastic change of opinion in such a short time? If you're going to write reviews, at least try to be objective and free of personal biases so you don't have to contradict your own words.


And, according to the date stated, that update was made only a week after Amar Kovacevic from Ideaology publicly accused them of abuse and blackmail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298306.msg55830131#msg55830131).

There is no such honest rating website. How would you think they get their business or even pay for the hosting and website maintainence?

They need to be honest because they are risking losing followers and about where they are going to get funds to maintain and make a profit from their reviews, there is such a thing as an affiliate, take the case of gambling reviews if the operators of these gambling review sites are honest, they are likely to get more active referrals from casinos, people first look on how honest the reviews are before joining, in the case of ICO or NFT they should still honesty and factual in their reviews and just put a disclaimer that they are putting honest reviews whether they pay to get a listing or not.

Lol are you serious? If you think that they have to be honest, find me a ICO rating site that can be trusted.

Fyi, they don't really care about being honest simply because they make more money by selling fake ratings to scams than they would by adds or whatever else they are selling on these platforms. On top of that, their business model is completely different than gambling review sites.

If they've been doing this for a long period of time and on many projects then they are just busted with OP's revelation, other projects should come here to support OP's allegations, scammers are willing to pay that amount if they are going to get more money from these reviews.
They are guilty of supporting scammers if positive reviews are being paid, they even fooled people by posting on their site that they do not receive payment, they deserve a negative tag and a flag.

You are missing the point, to me that website and them are completely irrelevant. What is relevant here is that this is unethical, shady business, that tries to squeeze money from shitty projects who care about this type of nonsense. Despite shitty projects are working against all of us in this space, nobody deserves to be extorted or scammed.

If you or anyone wants to investigate Backstage and what we are doing I welcome that 100%.


This is textbook extortion. Here is a draft of a bad review, pay me money and I will make it way better. As I said I don't care, but others will and did and will and did pay.

I don't know the whole history with AntiDolos, and I am not defending them at all, I only wrote my opinion based on OP post and images he posted.
Maybe you know AntiDolos better as I hear he offered you to ''work'' with him before  :D

Well you know how this things work better than me ;)
I am sure there are bunch of scammers in crypto who would do anything for money, all I asked from OP is to provide more evidence and I would gladly support him.

I agree but only partially, ratings can be tricky especially if money is involved.
For me best practice would be to add notice that you received payments from some service for listing or rating.

Textbook extortion would be if he continued to bully you with phone, email, telegram, etc asking for more money, even after you clearly told him NO.
If Nigerian prince sends me email asking for money and I pay him, this is not extortion, but my stupidity.
 

Yeah I know, I didn't think that you are defending AntiDolos in any way.


Oh yeah, me and him are BFF. ;D 

Joke aside he did offer me cooperation a couple of years ago but obviously I wasn't interested. Good for him because if I accepted his offer and saw what he is doing, I would have tagged him years ago.

That's it for me

So he was playing a tricky game. Reporting projects as scam and then extorting them funds in exchange for a better review while at the same time trying to falsely gain reputation from the forum as someone trying to legitimately expose scam

I will leave my tag as well.

And trust flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3160

I'm glad you did, supported the flag, this antidolos is pretending to be a scam buster using Bitcointalk as a platform but in reality, he is just using it to extort, well it ends here, his happy days are over, he will still use his review site to review but since his character and intention is exposed people already knows that he is just extorting money and his readers and followers will discard him for good.

I think it's still on point. I mean, can even a legitimate project be beaten by a less influential review company? If they only need $1k not to post bullshit reviews, at least you have a bigger allocation than that to pay for other ad services that drive your project's visibility faster. In the end, they fell far behind and catching up was a waste of time.
On my side, they'renot a big bully tbh. I had never even heard of their site.

Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

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Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

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Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

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We have a free service line: publishing rating and reviews without getting any money. If you check our site, you will find that we introduced both fraud and high potential projects 100% real and free.
We have a non-free line: If a project want extra ads and marketing they can use our services, and we are NOT ashamed of it.
But in the end, we never change the facts for money.

Plz never trust anything until you check the fact and evidence.

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1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

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1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

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Thank you for your logical explanation.
We've been publishing our opinion about projects with documents and evidences for more than 3 years. This is our opinion and we do not change it with or without money.
Finally, it is up to audience to put the pieces together and decide on an investment.

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Thank you for posting what we already shared on the site. We've never claim anything and only share our comments and experiences to users FOR FREE. Why are they so worried about our reviews if a bunch of nonsense? Isn't better to allow the audience to read and decide by themselves?

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This is exactly a clear example of our honesty. Every time we write a review, we first share it with the owners. We will update our report whenever they fix the issues. This is what we have been doing for the past 3 years and we have never received any money for it. As we told the Backstage (BKS) managers, whenever they fix their bugs, we will update the report.

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1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  :-\

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  :)
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  :-[

Problem is that you didn't just offer marketing services but instead you offered higher rating in case they paid $1k dollars. Care to explain how project can automatically get higher rating in case they paid you that fee and go from 6.1 to 8+?

By the way, its against forum rules to post consecutive posts like you did. On top of that, you just copy/pasted one answer to all of those that asked you questions.

I wish you had checked our articles at least once before giving us a red flag. We say that some project is fraudulent because of some reasons. Can you deny that reason?
We say this project does not have a team. That project does not have a roadmap or business plan.
Why do you focus on the sidelines instead of paying attention to the main story?
Please anyone who has ever paid us to change an article come forward and share proof.
We are one of the few sites that working so hard and honestly for 3 years to help people.

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We NEVER asked money to change facts. We just said that if you want, you can pay and use our extra services and work together. We published their article 6 days ago. Before we see this topic. In a series of parameters they are strong and in some very weak. Do you ignore this fact?
The fact is we only share evidence.

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Glad to hear about us now.
Suppose we are a bunch of stupid frauds who extort money from people
Does this change the truth about the documents we expose about the projects? :)

We have analyzed dozen projects so far. From scam projects to good ICOs.
Maybe we can take money and make weak projects look good, but can we destroy good projects with lies? While every paragraph comes with evidence and so far 90% of the scams that we exposed have been proven.

I don't care if the project is fraudulent or not, but the fact that you are willing to up the score for a fee says something about you. It simply means even if the project was truly fraudulent, for a price, you will turn a blind eye to the red flags and convince your audience that the project is legitimate

You can not be trusted

We also know how to read and comprehend. Read your reply again

https://i.vgy.me/3h5OpZ.png

Everything is good until this was posted

https://i.vgy.me/3h5OpZ.png

And until now you haven't addressed this issue, there is extortion on this screenshot and we all have that impression, now tell us if this is not extorting $1000 for a good rate what is it?

So you are correct and these people that tag you are all wrong based on how you defend yourself
you seem to be good in English but it is easy to understand even for a none native English member that you are extorting people because you are offering $1000 and you're also offering to give it a good score

https://i.postimg.cc/DwhH5WZg/anti.png (https://postimages.org/)

Some of my questions:

• Was the offer of $1k valid (assuming only a friendly offer, no extortion at all)?
• (if you answered yes to the question above) In the title of the published article^[1]  of course this sounds bad for readers in general, but is it okay for you to still offer marketing services to projects that you mark yourself as a risk?
  
• What will you do if BKS hires marketing services, I mean will you still publish the same article^[1] on your site? Or will you speak differently elsewhere?
  
  1. https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

Beside not doing a very good job at scambusting (not providing proper evidence for your claims), my main problem with you is that you simply don't understand how wrong it is to increase the rating just because someone paid you $1000.

Care to explain how is that possible, how caan some project immediately get better because they paid what you asked for?

I take it that, as you've been here for couple of years and been busting scammers a lot, you are aware that providing evidences can be made from both sides? That is one of the purpose of this thread as well as my invitation on the other thread, to let you answer and defend yourself here.

You are more than welcome to give the screenshots from your side, and... uhh... what's the words? Ahhh... speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..

Maybe it's the wrong choice of words that you've used because however I read it based on the screenshot of JeromeTash you sound like you are trying to convince the admin to try your service for $1000 to increase the rating of the project, there's nothing wrong offering a premium marketing service but offering to give a good score on your review for a fee is questionable.
If you have a review site and offer premium marketing services, you should know who can avail of that service will you let a project with a very low rating avail of your premium service?
So if I have a low rating in your reviews can I avail of your marketing service?

I don't see qualifications on what kind of project you are willing to promote, there is no Disclaimer and requirement either
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/

As a professional, can you show a little respect to the interlocutors and write in normal text size? There are no idiots here and everyone can read. Also, constant and persistent repetition^paste of your views does not help and it is really hard to try to follow what you are presenting here. At least to me.

We all encourage you here to refute the OP's claims and provide a screenshot that will do so. It's about your reputation here and your service, so it's completely justified that you present evidence.

The fact is that if you are really neutral and objective, then at no time can you say "for $1,000 we are ready to 8+ score your project and fully promote your article on sites and forums." You are not talking about fixing bugs or whatever here, it is blackmail at its most obvious.

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At the moment you have 5 negative tags, how would it look if you got an offer to get 8+ positive feedback instead of -5 for only $2000?

Thank you for your feedback on the text.
I stress that OP has deleted the chats & I can't provide a screenshot. But if he shows the previous conversation, you'll notice that we said we can help to improve your project cause you have the potential. As we removed the word "FAKE" word from the draft and even published the photos that OP gave us as proof.
https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Haash-and-Backstage-768x288.jpg

Our most important proof is 3 years of resume and we never show projects more than they really are.


It is not a problem if your offer is clear and helps us troubleshoot.
I appreciate & respect all your opinions. Thanks to all of you.

But honestly, BitcoinTalk admins NEVER helped us in these 3 years, and now that there is a misunderstanding, they ignore all our efforts and destroy us. While we are the last forces standing on this dirty market and helping people. :-\

Mate, I see your stress but do not forget the sayings that says "a clear conscience fears no accusations" So if you think you have nothing in the secret to hide then you should not be afraid or worried of mere propaganda because nothing is hidden beneath the sun. As long as you have a strong point and facts to defend yourself than that should not bother you in anyways.

Thanks buddy for your kind words.
I'm not stressed, I'm just upset that 20 admins stand in front of AntiDolos to defend their friend.  :D

They completely forgot that we exposed an ambitious project and only focused on why we charge $1K. Even though no money was taken. :-\
Let's assume we take money. So? What's next?

We are NOT committed to anyone and our only goal is to educate investors on the best choice.
With money or without money. Finally, it is important that what is published is the plain truth. ;)

You have very long arguments with all of us but you are not showing any part of these conversations since the start of the accusation to refute OP, and I did not judge you right away I go to the extent of checking your site
look for a disclaimer to see what are the parameters and requirements for a project to avail of your service but there is none, go check the other marketing managers here and you'll see that they impose requirements for projects that would like to avail of their service.

Now you're telling me this when it's not even on your website my impression is even a low-score project based on your assessment can avail of your service and that's why you are offering your service to OP even if you told him that he has a low score.



 
 

The Op deleted the chats after taking the screenshot. I said this ten times.

I'm tired of this argument. Investors read our reviews and make their own decisions. The fact is, they don't care who takes the money. :D
Anyway, this is our disclaimer page.
https://antidolos.com/Disclaimer

https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Screenshot001.jpg
This is the scoring chart and we rate based on 20 parameters.
0 - 4: Completely scam & expose immediately.
4 - 6: Failed project. We don't even post about them.
6 - 8: Offer to solve problems & cooperation.
8 - 10: The best opportunity for cooperation.

In the end, it does not matter what people think. What is ultimately important is we can't post nonsense and if something is published on the site, it is documented.

I'm just jumping in quickly as I was invited to take a look at the topic by @holydarkness via TG. Not much that I can add here, cos for me this was straightforward from the start as @JeromeTash said in previous reply and the main reason why I decided to post this. Blackmail.

As previously mentioned I don't care if some low tier "review" site writes whatever they want about any project including the project I'm co founder of, but I care about the blackmail part and I don't want anyone else to have to deal with that and experience it. The whole purpose of scambusting right?

If they knew how to actually do it properly they would do their research thoroughly and then they would post their article and that is it. They would not even contact us to chat with us as an overture for the kind offer of bumping the rating to a higher score for a mere 1000$ cos they are so kind and act like real savers :D

And to address one more thing, not like I feel it's needed really, but for the sake of me being 100% transparent and concise. I deleted the entire chat interaction on TG I had with the scammer, because I provided him the contracts, company registration documents, legal opinions for the token and the business model itself, business model itself, audit reports by Hacken for our entire fleet of smart contracts and so on, to show him how all his accusations are baseless and nonsensical. When I realized with whom I'm dealing with I immediately deleted the entire chat, but before that I exported the entire chat, so I actually have the entire conversation saved in case I'm dealing with the really nasty kind.

After he offered what he offered, after seeing all the documentation I knew that this scammer is beyond saving or grace and posted here to get him out in the public so others don't have to deal with him.

[holydarkness said: the explanation, in summary, was that the OP, -CryptoViking- has deleted all of the chat]

As a professional, from where I stood, you should have understand and well-adept on the rule to archive everything for future reference, this practices even also applied in real world business. But let's not dwell on that. Earlier today I've contacted OP via telegram and reinvited him to this thread to perhaps add further info. And unlike you, I archive it, alongside with a prior notice to the counterparty that I am doing so. Let's just wait for OP to come here.

[I saw that OP has replied here in between me composing this wall of text and confirmed the deletion. OP, do you mind sharing those archived conversations?]

Meanwhile, let's talk about this interesting part of paid service (https://archive.fo/aSxSl) you offered, shown below. From the perspective of a professional, as you claimed to be, from 1 to 10, how low do you think these practices I mark in red squares in term of ethical business, personal invasion, and/or honest review site?

https://i.ibb.co/KmYYWGx/the-honest-review-site-they-said.jpg (https://ibb.co/cxPPQvh)

Do those private investors know and you have their consent on their email being shared to a third party paying you? How about the 5 stars comment and 50 supportive comments? These were made with honesty too?


Can I kindly, very kindly, ask you to please don't self-overpraise yourself? If you can? I believe you're not the last force standing on this dirty market and helping people, especially given that you involve yourself on that dirty market by offering positive reviews on several sites. Lovesmayfamilis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1982152;sa=showPosts) can probably single handedly --or even single fingerly-- topped your self-proclaimed last force against dirty market and helping people, and he's just one of dozens of the prominent scam-busters on this forum who actively hunting not only projects but also individuals who threaten the poor and vulnerable citizen of crypto, I was just too lazy to dig their profile link. If you have been around the scam busting field for so long, I am more than sure you can mention several names yourself. And they do that completely for free. So yeah, I doubt the "last force" statement is quite correct.


No admins involved on this case by standing in front of you to defend "their friend". So far, only the DTs, and they're not even 20, just... 5, hmmm... you must be bad at math. And they --or dare I say "we" as I am there too-- are not friends with cryptoviking or backstage. For a professional in scam busting and crypto reviewing who doesn't take screenshots for what I assume would be privacy reason, you seems a bit trigger happy on baseless statements, don't you agree?

But enough roasting. Now let's move back to the topic. I'd like to address the concern of your depth of capability to conduct research as... the last force. Let's focus on this project and the article you published [archived here (https://archive.fo/yxB8H)].

You believe Ms. Valge's involvement on the project is, at the very least, questionable because you can't confirm her involvement. No mention of this project on her LinkedIn. Thus you marked it with fake on your page. If only you dive deeper, far deeper than an amateur like me did, you'll find a fact that she retweeted the announcement of those 56 partners.

https://i.ibb.co/s9SSRLv/they-said-she-s-fake.jpg (https://ibb.co/nM22mhs) https://i.ibb.co/hYL4Pbw/she-retweeted.jpg (https://ibb.co/g4mf5Nh)

I doubt she'll be retweeting it if she did not involved at any degree and backstage only borrowed her name without consent.

Thought?

I just uploaded the chat log as html file and also as PDF file, so you can choose whatever you prefer.

HTML file link: https://ufile.io/7fsbxupe (https://ufile.io/7fsbxupe)

PDF file link: https://ufile.io/wbzjlh9w (https://ufile.io/wbzjlh9w)

I went through the entire conversation, and all I can say, you gave that kid way too much attention. The only thing that's probably true is that he's from Malaysia, but everything else he said is just a load of BS and a massive exaggeration of his "importance" in the crypto world. Don't waste your time on people like that!

Nice job on exposing him publicly, though. That'll definitely make it harder for him to keep pulling off his little scam of extorting and blackmailing other projects.

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Well, it seems you missed the memo: Bitcointalk admins don't handle every single thing that goes on in the forum. And to think, with your supposed "vast" experience in this field, it's surprising that you didn't already know this.

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You can count me in on that action! I want a piece of the pie too! 🤑

Be focused on your service please, I'm not talking about other services.

I mean the content of the review, I don't care if you stick it on your windshield. So will it be the same or not?

$1k will be billed before the article is published right? You previously prepared a draft and showed it to the project team and it won't be found archived.

This is an honest way you pay people to talk about you. As people pay you to put up their banners and talk about them. But there is a red line here. No service is provided to scams, Shitcoins, gambling sites, and Ponzi projects.



100% YES.
Investors are our only valuable asset and we've a big database of investors & hunters. We didn't pay for this info and it is completely voluntary.





We may not be the last person, but we're one of the last sites that act this way. If an anonymous victim messages Lovesmayfamilis and asks for help, is he/she willing to follow the case to the courts of India or Pakistan? Probably many bloggers, YouTubers, admins, and Influencers help people (and we truly respect them) but I don't think they help outside of their mobile and laptops.




https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Screenshot004.jpg

Is this enough? All we say is that this project overstates everything. They rely too much on names.

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Thanks for this topic. There's no such thing as bad marketing, and you've made a lot traffic to our site.
Let's get this thread to 1000 views while our lawyer is pursuing the complaint against you due to privacy violation and slander.
We're playing in your field for now but soon switch to a fair and honest game.  :)

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Same. If they paid $1K, we would promote the same content and help them to troubleshoot.



The truth is that we didn't know they were against us until a couple of days ago and we didn't know about this topic either.
The last paragraph of the chat he shared is fake. After our proposal, he said that he would consult with the team and inform us. We are such simple and kind people.  :D We published the article and waited for their payment to start our services.

I can't be the only one aware that you conveniently left out the part about stars and supportive comments? What about them? They're made by people who truly using the platform in subject, and all of them has to be extremely satisfied? 5 stars. Does it mean suppose there are 60 reviewers, legit reviewers from which I have no idea where you get them from, 10 of them leave a 4 stars review, which doesn't met your service agreement, so you'll have to ask them to not publish it? Quite sure cherry picking is not fair in the world of reviewing a service or platform. Is this honesty? How about if you only have 30 out of those 60 who gave 5 stars? You'll ask the other 30 to not post their review while hunting for more reviewers --again, not sure where you get the legit people who reviewed a platform for the sole purpose of reviewing it instead of getting paid for it-- and so on and so on until you achieve 50? Again, is this honesty?


So now you're no longer "the last force", but one of "the last" person and one of the last sites. Falling down pretty quick from the initial position of your statement, eh? Curious about one thing, how much will it cost for someone to solve a case to the court of India or Pakistan? Free? I have specific someone in mind that is in trouble and last i check --haven't open their thread for days now-- they're looking for a lawyer to help them. Also have another one in mind with significantly less amount of money, but currently in an indisputable situation against a platform, care to mediate them and fly back and forth between their countries? You can fly there and help them both? Pro bono? Or will it cost tens of thousands of dollars?


Interesting. I'd really love if I could verify that you're indeed talking with Ms. Valge and not talking to each other with yourself or one of your team. Care to show us the profile box that shows her username with that chat on the background? I am sure a scam buster know what I mean and how to provide it.


I don't think whether the last paragraph of the archived chat log is real or fabricated is relevant. It was provided simply for the reason you asked them to show the entire chat, where you imply there will be something there to tip the balance towards your side, as stated below:


It does not negate the fact that you asked some sum of money for some rating boost. In fact, anyone reading that conversation in full will very likely understand that you removed the word "FAKE" is simply as a bargaining chip, a gesture of good will that will turn sour when your request got denied.

The chat is filled with implied threat every now and then.

Our assistance is like this
1. We collect all info and every detail.
2. Validation.
3. If it is approved, we'll handle the cases of Turkey, the US, Malaysia, and the UAE. If not, we will refer to our lawyers.
4. It costs nothing so far.
5. If the lawyer takes the initial approval of the legal authority, we'll charge $1K to $3K.
6. If the case is successful, we take 5-10% of the case amount as a commission.
7. If the case fails, there is no refund.
But what is important is we don't take any money until we take valid approval from a known legal institute in the destination.





https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Screenshot007.jpg
https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Screenshot007.jpg

Enough? If you want, we'll talk to all the advisors and those 56 business partners. But the result is the same.



You are absolutely right. We get some sum to boost. Not changing the facts. Money is for article boost. It's their decision whether a 6.1 score is worth boosting or not. But we guessed that after some promo people will raise it to 8. NOT US...PEOPLE

I am sorry if I sound rude, that's a bit intentional, but I think you have a trouble on addressing all the matters being discussed. This will the third time it being asked, so I'll just snip everything and focus solely on this matter below, to help with your short attention span, until it's cleared.

Yes, I got the answer, as well as, I believe, everybody who read this thread. Though a bit implicitly explained, the nature of your site and the ethic you followed, your definition of honesty, can be summed up in that sentence. When people did not pay you, i.e.: using your free service, you'll tell all positive and negative facts. You'll have a lengthy dialog with the potential buyer like CryptoViking, inquiring about so many things --borderline grasping at straws, if I may add my personal amateur opinion-- while actually collecting more and more materials for your article and offering the paid service. When they pay, they can rest assured. When they opt to use your free service, though, they'll have a potential to [check note], ahh... deserved to be "shut down"

I think the tag is well proven and justified now.

Moving on to next topic. Though, at this point, I don't see why its necessary anymore, given the dark side of your service is already well-founded. Nonetheless...

Ms. Valge.
I can see that you're quite well versed on crafting sentences to drive certain opinion. "consultant", "work with them", "working on". The announcement made by BKS was that she's one of the advisors, as she acknowledged and confirmed on the last part of her chat with you.

Flying overseas to help solve problems... and whatnot.
Your explanation on the earlier part here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5451113.msg62249273#msg62249273), just in case I was wrongly understand it, I'd like to confirm, so you're pretty much brokering a lawyer? You're reviewing a case, if it can be solved by yourself, virtually, much like what we did here, it's free. But if it require a lawyer, you'll look for a lawyer in that area, charge the customer an extra 1,000-3,000 USD outside the lawyer's fee, non-refundable, and when they win the case, you'll charge another 5-10% of the amount won. All that for finding a lawyer for the customer? Or do I understand that scheme of yours wrongly?

Are you looking for truth or just want to roast AntiDolos in any form?
I think you should make a thread about Cointelegraph and even Yahoo. Cointelegraph does 5 min of research & even promo Shitcoins if you pay $5K. Yahoo is even worse. It doesn't matter who you're, just pay $700 to have a promo article on Yahoo blog.

Did you know we've already partnered with some of your friends on Bitcointalk for sig campaigns? They only ask one question. Is this a scam? No. Then they wear their banner. Did you spend months researching MIXERO, whose banner you carry? Are they saints and have no weaknesses?

That's the marketing industry, bro. Everyone has their own standards & morals, and AntiDolos dares to perform the highest level of moral principles and honesty. Please open your eyes to reality.


https://antidolos.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/04.jpg

Why are you trying so hard to defend your friend? We both know how dirty this game is. Behind the scenes, the OP Tweet about Ms. Valge, and she welcomes it without giving a damn care about the project. She does not admit cause of business. The only real advisors are those who publish the name of the project on LinkedIn or their official accounts.



We are not a broker. If the case is in Turkey, Malaysia, UAE, and USA, we'll do it ourselves. Otherwise, we ask our business associates.
Consultation is 100% free.
For all countries, we've the attorney's fees only if legal proceedings are initiated in a law firm.
Email us if you want more info. I'm sure the legal guys can help better. I'm a social media guy.  :)

Looking for truth, obviously. The roasting part was done several posts ago. Try to keep up.


Me? Why me? I am just an amateur with zero experience in scam busting. Why don't you? You're the professional here. I thought you like to see yourself as the last force protecting the cryptocommunity?


I most certainly don't know about that partnership, solely for the reason I am not even aware I have friends on bitcointalk. Care to tell me who my friends are whom partnered with you? I am sure they don't mind you mentioning them by name and inviting them here to vouch for you and informing me that I am their friend. You might made my day by letting me know that some people here on the forum, who happen to be your partner, consider me as their friend.


[gasp]
The highest level of moral principles and honesty is accepting payment to remove negative facts from a review site and hiring and considering people who spent 48 hours on an app, platform, or the likes as someone with real user experience?


Hmm.. this is interesting. Can you ask her for me, if she's not in any way involved, at any degree with BKS, then why'd she retweeted their tweet about her being their advisor? I am aware I can ask her myself, but certainly we can agree that two people poking her tg with questions will rather put her on an inconvenient situation.

And for the last time, CryptoViking and BKS are not my friend, just like --I am sure-- they're also not friends with the DT who left you feedback. The feedback and "defense" --though I prefer to use the word "inquiries-- happens here is not because we know CV and friend with him. I have not even heard of his name before this thread. So it'll be very much appreciated if you can stop throwing the "you're friend with xxx" or "your friend xxx" or "the admins bla-bla-bla" like its a Black Friday.


I am sure you're well aware that your answer is not covering what I asked. Allow me to make it simpler: does the 1,000-3,000 USD and the 5-10% you charge to your "client" is outside the fee charged by the law firms?