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What happened: Throwaway account advertising selling high ranking acccounts. Prices are so low (from $100 for Full Member to only $350 for Legendary) that I am 100% sure that he has no accounts for sale at all and instead he is just trying to lure greedy and ignorant people into his little scam attempt.

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You are right that the person has no account to sell. It is just to scam people by the name of account sells. It is known to everybody that the price of the seller can be earned within a month by the signature campaign. If that person had any account to sell then s/he could offer a higher amount or work on a signature campaign or take a loan and default the loan. Legendary accounts can get a higher amount than the offered price.
Anyway, I have tagged and supported the flag.

This is just an exit scam waiting to happen to the account buyer, the seller does not have control of any of those accounts and once any gullible buyer makes payment the newbie seller will just pull an exit scam on the buyer.

Account buyers vs sellers are both at risk of being scammed depending on who makes the first move and in this case, the buyer will have a higher risk of losing both money and the account in the long run since the bought account can exist for a long before it is knocked out.

How do you know that the price is too low? Are you selling account too? Do not mind me, I am just kidding  ;D. But actually we can not know if the price of Bitcointalk account is low or not if we are not selling, do not just judge.

What I know is that account sales can lead to scam. Also that an account may have problem that can make the account to be useless later. We should discourage account sales.

Its common sense buddy, I also never sent money to those bitcoin doublers but I am sure that they are scam. Why would someone sell Legendary account for only $350 when it takes you at least two and a half years of hard grind to reach that rank and on top of that, you can make that money in 4 weeks of average signature campaign.

Rule of thumb: when an offer is too good to be true, that means its a scam.

Not only that the seller is not offering an escrow, but there are also a lot of risks in buying accounts, especially if the buyer and the seller come from different countries, we have a case here of one account on a signature campaign where he is suspected and proven because of his language history, and of course, posting style and habits can become evidence if there is a change of ownership through account selling.

Escrow can help to some level, but a compromised account can also be escrowed. What if the account owner later know and come for his account with a signed bitcoin address. The buyer will only be at loss.

Even if the account seller is offering the account with high amount of money, it is something we should still always discourage.

This is the most common scenario with account sellers. I contacted one (I think you exposed him here) he sent me a screenshot of the account with a blurred username, I still managed to find that account after the registration time. Through further conversation, it turned out that he doesn't know anything about that account, not even in any campaign.
Unfortunately, that is not enough for any tag or any action against that account.

Resellers who offer several Hero or Legendary accounts are certainly not the original owners. These are either hacked accounts or fake offers without real access to these accounts.

The fact remains that the seller is not the original owner of the accounts and is therefore selling an identity to the highest bidder. Even if the seller was genuine and had all the accounts under his control, I think the account would still get a negative tag as an account seller because selling/buying bitcointalk accounts is perceived to be an activity done by people with malicious intent.

There are two types of people who buy bitcointalk accounts; the first are those who concern themselves with joining signature campaigns; the second pose a serious risk to the forum and are those who buy high rank accounts to scam. One can imagine what could happen if a DT1 account is hacked and sold to a person with malicious intent.

got curious and searched "@slezercc" and it looks like this is the second time he has created a thread selling accounts. the funny thing is he was selling only two accounts last month that he claims he "grew" himself and one has copper membership, but now he is selling 7 accounts from different ranks.  ::)

I never really had a good grasp of what the market for bitcointalk accounts was in terms of what rank goes for what amount, but if, say, the market was getting soft or if you had a member who just wanted to ditch the forum and get what they could for the account(s) they have, those dollar values don't seem to be dirt cheap IMO.  Does anyone have a sense of what a Legendary account would sell for these days?  I'm just curious.

This account mentioned in the OP is obviously just a throwaway one, and I think creating a flag against him is overkill.  Why?  Because even with a flag and red trust from the entire DT list, no account buyer would give it a second thought unless there was evidence that he'd scammed someone before--and even then it's a gamble.

Good looking out, OP.  I wouldn't waste time other than to give him a neg, but personally I appreciate you bringing idiots like this to the community's attention.

This bullshit!! How and in which forum and board someone sells such prices for such accounts for his sweat. The breakdown of prices of the accountseller is not clear. Is it that the accounts were hacked or he bought them with a cheap fees and selling them to get small gain. I support OP Rikafip that the prices of those accounts are too low. It is obviously clear that he wanted to use that means to scam those who are eager to buy account. If anyone is buying account at anywhere please, don't pay before receiving it. Receive the account and check the trust system of the account before you pay. Red tag will do the good judgment to the account so that anyone who want to make any transaction with him will retrieve himself.

If the seller is legit yet no one should buy such an account as it can be restored by contacting support/posting on Meta by saying the account was hacked. The seller of the account or any member of the forum can expose the ownership change by email/password changing, writing style asking to verify the old wallet there is no information about any crypto wallet several/a lot of posts become deleted which can be previewed via ninjastic.space and so on.

I never tried to buy/sell account and I doubt I ever saw a legit offer, but I do know how hard it is to reach Legendary rank from scratch, after merit system kicked in and for that reason it seems unbeliveable to me that someone would sell one for measly $350. And even if you have stock of old Legendary account, one look at Services board and all those open signature campaigns should make you realize that Legendary account is worth much more. I am also curious about the real price, but I doubt that anyone would sell Legendary account for less than $1k dollars given how easy it is to earn that amout of money via signature campaign.


It was literally 1 min job to create this thread and make a flag as its not like I had to dig deep for evidence, I just shared his post and that's about it. And being flagged will make it more obvious to newbies to stay away from him as only those would fall for such offer.

The person may have an account for sell but it would be some tagged accounts or ban evasion accounts. I really doubt the chances of people buying a genuine legendary accounts these days.
Then getting into a campaign as you advised, is not something that is easy for a shit poster who doesn't write in English.

A tagged or flagged legendary account will cost even the $350 or below.
A good legendary account should cost above $500. Maybe between $600 to $800.
Then, a legendary account like yours will cost like $3000 to $5000. Are you thinking what I am thinking? ;D

There are several hypotheses for the low price such as:

 - These accounts are hacked.
 - These are old accounts with zero merits.
 - These accounts contain a red flag or negative trust.
 - These accounts are spammmmy and fail to join any campaign.

With all these assumptions, the possibility that these accounts were created by the user and enables you to make any profits from it is small and therefore there is no economic benefit from purchasing them.

How can someone just throw away such accounts at give away prices. It is either these accounts were hacked or otherwise if not what is the explanation for this activity or action. It is possible one wants to sell their account but not at this ridiculous peanut give away amount of a thing. This goes to tell you the motives behind this actions of theirs. 

One needs to ask themselves series of questions before engaging in such deal.
Why must this owner put up these  accounts for sale in  such price looking at the service board with lots of open spots. Would it not have been alright for the seller to engage these accounts  in the campaigns so as to benefit from the system.

Although it is not right and encouraging and I would advise anyone going for such deal should be cautious about it as these accounts might likely have gotten a tag or flag.  Do well to request first to have access so you could be able to analyze the account to see if there is anything wrong with the account.

those involved in trading account transactions are those who want to instantly get a high ranking on the forum. their target is to join the signature campaign. although I'm sure some campaign managers would not consider such an account.
it is clear that those involved are old members who may not be active anymore. or maybe hacking. from the seller's account, we can see that his telegram account was also used in similar activities before with other accounts. he could also have gone into hiding from his business to commit fraud against potential victims.

From what I have seen in the forum, the negative consequences of buying a forum account are huge. How will a novice buy an account that he cannot manage based on post quality? It will become clear that the account changed hands. I also think that most of these hacked accounts that are placed for sale have been abandoned by the owners. This is because the real owners should have reported the hack or when they observe that the account is now under another person's control. I will not even buy an account even if it is cheaper than what the seller is proposing because it is like buying stolen car. One can never be comfortable driving it.

The seller mentioned by the OP stated his prices but does anybody know what these ranking accounts are being sold for by other sellers on Telegram?

Considering any accounts for sale will ultimately be used either for nefarious purposes or specifically to join signature campaigns, the question arises: why sell these accounts when you can make a lot of money yourself by joining various campaigns?

By claiming to have an account does not mean they actually do. Maybe it is another way to simply scam by taking money from buyers and then not delivering the account because they simply do not have it.

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You missed the most obvious one, and that is that there are no accounts for sale at all. They are purely figment of OP's imagination and low prices are there to attract naive and ignorant buyers.

The fact that you're you don't seem to mind that someone is buying an account makes me feel a bit suspicious of you dude, but hey, if we can't prevent people from buying accounts, might as well help them not get scammed, it's the highest good of the two if not polar opposites. The price breakdown imo seem clear, scammers want to look transparent as much as possible so they seem legitimate.

If buying an account is rampant on this forum then for sure scammers will just repeat this cycle and scam many users because they could easily do it. This is why many discourage user to do this action because we don't know the intention of the user in long run and might they will do a big time scam if those bought account will gain reputation. So its better to discourage this actions and put the mind of newbie that its better to create new account since if they start with scratch for sure they will not waste their account since they insert huge effort on building it.

Without a doubt it is a possibility the OP has zero accounts and is using this as a trap to lure naive buyers who will pay him in advance and then receive nothing in return. I would not be surprised if that was the case because most probably trusting a scammer will lead to being scammed as a rule.

A test for greed level. The easiest scam that can be executed successfully are scams that lure victims into believing they can get something of high value for an amount that doesn't seem possible. Many users believe in having things the easy way and this are the main targets of this scammers, many don't want to pass through the building up process through learning and engaging. If there is no one patronising this scammers they won't be actively manipulating users but because they keep having people who wants life the easy way then scammers also are seeing avenue to exploit and do away with their funds.

Paying OP in advance would be a very mistake from anybody who thinks and believe in the lies peddled by OP to be true. These are traps for members with no idea how this platform operates and they on their own fail to do the needful by taking out time to read all through to gain more insight into the policies governing this platform so they could be able to access in accordance with the platform norms.

Just as you have said, the ignorant buyers are very naive and desperate hence they easily get scammed.

When he had account which was in campaign, then why he need to sell those account at cheap.It's give a doubt, because many campaign paying 40$ for a week for full member.But he is selling for 100$, which is two and help payment of full member.As like this other rank payments is like 2-4 week payment from the signature campaign.So it seems,he want to scam the poor  bounty hunters or the low rank people.Instead of buying accounts,people can build their own account with good posts.Then they can get smerits from the high rank people.The account with more merits also allow them to join good campaign.Kindly avoid of buying accounts and build your own account.

Price are very low which indicates that this person is either scammer and want to attract buyer with juicy low rate because for full member this person offering only 100$ and may be he ready to sell at 80$ after some discussion while one week salary of full member is 40$ atleast.

If this person has some accounts and really want to sell then question is from where he got these bulk of accounts because one person who are so lazy to not join signature compaign, how he got these Merits to become a full member and other ranks account? Maybe he hacked old accounts but cannot be said confirmed.

Even if many discourages this action, you can't prevent people from doing shortcuts, that's why I applaud more the fact that the one I quoted tried to tell others to be careful doing transactions rather than discouraging it entirely, better if they don't get scammed.

I'm sure the account seller quoted those low prices for the various accounts to quickly draw their victims in. It's obvious that it's a scam waiting to happen. Either of these two scenarios, one will play out – there are no accounts to be sold in the first place or the  accounts have some forms of tags on them. Again, you talked about why didn't the account seller go into signature campaigns instead of selling the account. Truth remains that not everyone can make posts (constructively) to even save their own life.

Why should one go for an account for sale, both the seller and the buyer must be insane to have taught about bringing up this kind of shady idea, as a responsible person, you don't yield to every suggestions that comes your way by any chance, some are meant to be repelled and not to attract us, these are the kind of people that have change in hands on the account they are using or who will be legendary by rank and behaving as a newbie.

I look forward to seeing non paid freewill signature campaign coming soon to raise an awareness in this apsect in letting people know the risk connected to buying user's accounts and other offensive means newbies can be attacked for their lack of information, in other bot for the experienced ones take advantage of them by any chance.

Because merit earning is hard that's why other low ranking member think about buying those accounts, they ignore the risk about getting tag or being scam since their main goal is to earn money from signature campaign.
Even if someone will create a freewill signature campaign to rise awareness about those buying and selling account still there are some people will bite the dust since there are people will do all just to take advantage of everything.

I think one legendary account should be more than 5000$ worth. I have tried for a long time and then become legendary. Though I am from a developing country yet I think it took me more effort than earning 5000$. Those who have a lot of accounts which was before the merit system may sell at a lower price as they can't operate all the accounts now. But if they try a little effort then they can scam more by taking loan instead of selling account.

$350 for a legendary account and $200 for a hero member account is very laughable, and yeah, is either this dude has no account at all to sell, or those accounts are already tagged, but then, who in their right minds would want buy a tagged account, except they want to use it to promote 1xbit through signature ad campaign , and like shasan said, there is also the possibility the seller has many of those high rank accounts from the old Era when merit was not yet introduced on the forum, but even at that, those prices are laughably too cheap, it looks too good to be true, so personally, I will just conclude that the seller has no account to sell, this is just a scam plot against those who are desperate for a high ranked account possibly to be used for signature campaigns.

We simply do not know the rates people are charging to sell Legendary or Hero accounts to those that are trying to join signature campaigns or those that have ulterior or nefarious reasons for wanting those accounts. With the effort involved in gaining Legendary rank the for-sale cost cannot be computed but I do think that there are far too many pitfalls involved and nobody should try to buy an account.

I mean, if a trade was to take place does the buyer send the money first without even knowing if the account seller actually will follow through with the sale?

Those accounts are for sell and the prices are being listed but my concern is why would someone buy an already made account just because you seem so lazy to start from the scratch like everyone else? We all know that we are in this forum not alone but with scammers who are also hunting for their own selfish interest and they're never here to make Bitcointalk grow in any positive way, and I'd advise is best you get your account groom it get that recognition make that account your lover without joking with it, so that when you get to a certain rank you can beat your chest that you struggled to get where your are. I feel most of those who are breaking the rules and regulations on this Forum are users with bought account, like they have nothing to lose if being banned or red  flagged.
Don't let laziness to get you scammed and you come back here and start weeping your eyes out that you have been scammed by someone. Those are just words (account for sale) and you that's thinking to buy you're not certain that there's any account to buy/sale so be careful. OP nice job for pointing out that  worm of a scammer.

You kinda answered yourself:  getting brand new account to high ranking one is long and tedious grind and some people would like to skip that in order to start making money via signature campaigns asap, while some need them for scam purposes.

Either way, in 99% of the cases they will get scammed, but I have no simpathy for those who fall for similar attempt.

I tried to look for other resources where they sell accounts from the forum. In fact, prices vary quite widely. Surprisingly, there are a lot of offers. I will not name the sources themselves, but it can be assumed that some people here on the forum multiply their alternative accounts not only to participate in subscription companies but also to sell them on third-party resources.
I'd say it's rather silly to make an announcement here on the forum when there's a lot of rubbish like this on the net. And quite unfair for those people who are sincerely trying to create their account from scratch.