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On yesterday's stream Eddie said Poker should and will be coming to stake some time soon.
He didn't mention a specific time though.

I think that's a great idea. They basically get risk free money through collecting the rake. Having a super big player base this would be a HUGE opportunity for stake and for their players.

For people with skill at poker that might become a lucrative site. Many degen gamblers that just lost with casino games and sports might "try their luck" at poker, fishing time.  ;D

Question is though, will they make their own poker software/network where only stake players will be able to play or will they join a network like ipoker, ggpoker, 888 and so on.
My best guess that they will keep it in house because KYC is not mandatory. Some abusers might want to run up some amounts on sports/casino and the chip dump it to somebody on a different site through shared network.

Anyway, I think it's a nice idea. Poker with crypto still is WAY too small.
Let's hope they can create a fun and safe environment with a lot of different poker variations like NLH, PLO, Stud games, Chinese Poker and so on.

Hopefully they are asking the players for their input when creating this! And please, make some moderate rake.  ;D

That would be a great catch for the website. Chinese poker and Stud games would be interesting, and maybe they would add other variation with tricks like leaderboards and rewards. Maybe adding KYC would be better to still ensure the security of both the casino and the players involved.

Overall, this simply means that more players will get on board and hoping that the casino can accommodate all the players, with all their withdraws ,deposits, queries, and customer support. 

I think this topic is more suitable to discuss on the Stake.com thread since this an announcement for their upcoming games and not a general discussion about gambling.

I dunno but this might be allowed since you are not part of the Stake. I think this poker game from Stake will sure be incorporated by bonuses and insane tournament rewards. We know that Stake is very generous when they have new games. We might see free roll tables exclusive for Bitcointalk users. This is what I’m looking forward on this news.

I thought because of the ANN thread being spammed by certain people recently, this would be an important thing it worth it's own thread.
In the ANN most topics recently are only "be scammed", gambling addiction conversations between 3-4 people and casino multipliers, quite boring in my eyes.

Going from 2 main attractions ( Casino and sports book ) to 3 is a big deal in my eyes, that's why I thought it deserves an extra discussion.

If somebody wants to move it though, of course that's totally fine.

It would be great if that happened. To be honest, finding a place to play poker using crypto is very difficult right now. 

Or the OP can move this thread to the gambling discussion board.
But in any case, I believe there are a lot of poker players in this forum who will be happy about this update.
Stake is a reputable casino and bookie, and can handle large amount of deposits and withdrawals without a problem.
You won't question their capability of handling this type of game. And you are confident that they won't screw you.
So let's wait and see when will this game will be open and what perks are waiting for poker gamers.

It doesn't make any sense if they are planning to implement a 3rd party software I think. It would be better to have poker as their own developed game. Stake have resources, fund and everything they need to grow too. I don't think they are going to bring 3rd party software. I'm excited to see something cool.
I'm a huge fan of board games, it would be huge if they launch.

I have played poker on swc, but I'm not really sure some other platforms have it. Maybe betnomi has it too but I haven't played there though I once was planning to participate in a tournament here but due to my time schedule, I couldn't.

I'm not sure if we can compare any crypto poker site with the best fiat poker sites... more players/promotions/tournaments/and pretty much everything else. And probably even more important almost all time zones can find interesting games at any time of the day in fiat places, with crypto we need to catch "the right time of the day" if we want to see some action.

Well, the Stake is big, and I guess they can come out with something big... but what will they do we will see.

Welp. Massive news as there's so many stake.com users out there that are fond of Poker as a sport. Might even see this as a gateway to get into the big leagues considering how massive the influence of Stake is in the sports industry from the outside, evident from their numerous partnerships and how they don't spare costs in making sure that their customers are receiving the best of service in this industry. With more and more sites closing out on Poker and the game being a little hard to find and play with nowadays, this will really push users into switching to Stake, real smart move if i do say so myself. Hopefully they put their own twist to this game and offer users a genuine and unique stake.com experience.

This is great news indeed, reading the op, I had to visit stake site to be sure that poker is not already on the site, as I know I used to see that game while going through their in-house games, I discovered what they have there is video poker..

Now I am wondering if video poker is a different game altogether from the real poker?.
Forgive my ignorance though, I am a total newbie to poker .

Really? I didn't realize that was a thing. I mean Poker is one of the most famous games in the gambling industry, how come they missed it till now? Maybe it is because I am not really into Poker that's why it surprised me that much. Anyway If that's the case then stake.com nailed it right in the head once again. We already know stake.com has a top quality reputation and I am sure they are not going to mess this one up. Poker players will be happy with these news without a doubt.

this could actually be a good addition to their gambling site. with their large gambler base, they could probably easily fill poker tables(of course it is not certain but with the large number of gamblers playing on their gambling site it could probably will), they could also attract poker players that haven't tried their gambling site.

I agree with this, since KYC isn't mandatory chip dump could become an issue if they joined a shared network with other poker sites.

It looks like finally I will be able to showcase my skills in Texas Holdem Poker where I was a big master in the Sit n Go tournaments of Zynga in Facebook  ;D.I have a great amount of patience when it comes to be playing and fighting for money but I assume who hasn't  ;D.That is a great idea and it is something new and unique because people have been asking here several times in the forum which website can they play with crypto and to have a big user base,I believe no one of the sites even Scwpoker which is the most well known one to not have the user base of Stake,so also me looking forward to play in Texas Holdem as that is the only poker discipline I like.

Difficult how? There is SwC, Americas Cardroom, Betnomi, Betcoin ag, and not to mention Americas Cardroom has at least 2 sister sites Blackchip poker and True poker. There are other sites out there as well, I just cannot remember their names.

The only thing that people may or may not like is most of these sites accept crypto for deposits and convert to usd balance, but they also allow crypto withdrawals.

As far as stake offering poker, it's never a bad thing to have more options. They have a super large player base and will probably do great with starting poker. I wonder of they m ay be interested in hosting a bitcointalk series?

for sure, it won't be that hard to find poker players among their loyal patrons. just think of the forum poker players who from time to time are arranging a poker tournament and they are already attracting good number of players. how much more of a known and reputable casino offering such tournament? so looking for players on this game won't be a challenge for them. we will see how they will execute this game in the days to come.
they may adjust their set-up according to how many people will be interested and it will pan out among players.

Big news, I personally expect Stake to stay with their original design and trend to implement their own software whenever possible. I think they have the talent and the experience to pull off their own thing, instead on depending on third party providers or sponsorships with already existing poker websites.

I am bit curious whether they would do something different with the match making or would going to stay with the market's way of pairing poker players. Any how, if this is indeed happening I will give it a look and try to play, hopefully I won't lose much with my rusty poker skills.  :P

Excellent news! I've only tried pokerstars for now and i didn't like the user experience in there so much. I am betting stake will build a better one.

I also kinda hope that they will start to host big world tournaments, as they would have gravitas to do that and casino infrastructure for money would be in place already. All they need is as sleek user experience as they have in the casino and i guarantee that people from other poker sites would come running.

Maybe it has something to do with KYC which renders it difficult to implement? I am not sure on why poker was such a challenge to be implemented given that other card games such as black jack, etc. are accessible in most online gambling platforms that I have played.

With this fact, this is definitely great news as this allows at least some interaction with other players. Knowing that you see a live game with real people participating makes the gambling game more interactive and alive at the same time. I hope that they add more features that cater towards interaction among players.

If poker should be added to Stake it means we are going to be seeing more poker tournaments with high rewards from Stake since they will put in a lot of effort just to promote the new addition, but then we all just have to anticipate the best from the company since they're known for high professionalism I'm the dealings in terms of development and promotions.

I'm very curious to know if it will only be available on Stake.com or if they will have poker across both stake.com and stake.us? Poker players span the whole globe and they would have a far bigger reach putting it on both platforms, but will a law dealing with sweepstakes sites hinder adding it?

Yes, Poker is one interesting game that we can play in our leisure time. I just remember a long time ago when Zynga poker is very popular in my place where we always play anytime in anywhere, which means If stake can make that Poker is enough friendly to us and also able to play on mobile phones, I really sure they can get the market for all people without exception. I hope they can prepare it carefully, and focus on the development of mobile phones like Zynga, and create a lobby with can play with a minimum bet like $0.1 just for fun.

Usually I would condone self-built software for a casino that is aiming to introduce poker, and I believe that Stake (being apparently so "well funded") would create their own software. However, I would not trust poker coming from a casino that has tens (if not hundreds) of open, unanswered complaints. I do not see a good future for Stake and their founder considering recent (seemingly valid) allegations that he is violating laws in his country by recommending people to use a VPN to bypass jurisdictional limits...That will be a big blow when/if those allegations are proven true. Even if they reach this goal of introducing Poker to their platform, they have a lot to make right if they want it to succeed in the long term.

This is good news for gamblers who like the game of poker and also customers of Stake.com because this addition can make it easier for gamblers to play the games they enjoy on Stake.com.
I'm sure they can prepare everything better so that development can run smoothly and can really be relied on by gamblers who play there.
Maybe in the near future there will be another update provided by Stake.com and the addition of poker games will be realized soon.

Its been time , Stake had been serving gamblers for long years and so as Poker that had been the most popular gambling in the world so why not stake is serving their gamblers with this game?
and also this will add many players towards them for better result.
they will for sure and that is the stake of course  ;D
Well with your post here , then surely they will gather the concerns and responds of gamblers as Bitcointalk is one of the best place where they an gather points from gamblers.

Hopefully it will be their own poker network because they have their own big player base so I think they want to provide their own network and become a competitor to the other existing provider/network. Stake has a big name already in the gambling industry, their advertisement is almost everywhere in the internet as well as in real life through the sponsorship with football club and others. Maybe it will be great for their business if they can have their own network and try to attract poker players from the other existing network.


Yes they are different, video poker game is a game that you play against the house while real poker (usually called by pvp poker) is a game that you play against other players.

Do not get your hopes up too high... Eddie promise new features and new gambling sites to people in restricted countries, every streaming session ...and it seldom happens.

He is creating content and these things might be in the planning phases, but nowhere ready for implementation. He even laugh at himself, when he makes promises like this... but let's see what happens.

Most of their budget goes into marketing and not into development of new features.... just look at the time that a new original game were last, launched.  ::)

I think there is a difference between a new game and a new feature.
A new original game doesn't bring new players, a new feature like poker would 100% do.

Besides poker and casino, poker would be the 3rd leg of the site. Other than the costs for development and hosting there is also no risk of losses in this area. Lean back and collect rake.

Also, he didn't laugh or whatever when he spoke about it. He actually sounded pretty serious.

Third party service provider or just on their own I think with huge user base of stake, they will come in good profit out of it it's a win-win situation on their end.

Well, I think that will make sense if he delivers that promise, for now let's just say it's just a plan. Not that it may bring them forth some good profit but having these kind of features just make players will have something to choose from. It's boring nowadays if you just play one game especially luck-based ones, from time to time it's good to test your skills and play with real people even online.

This is epic news. Personally, I am a fan of poker and I felt that it never really took off in the crypto world when compared to FIAT gambling sites which is why it's great to see Stake taking the initiative to improve its popularity.

However, I hope they launch it as an in-house game which could attract more gamblers for obvious reasons.

I have seen the best trusted publications for the stake.com site , what if I could be Excited to be quite honest is that they can put a game Function to play pvp , there is no other way that might interest me, because I have entered many casino sites and the poker they offer is the same, only they change the way they Present it, but that is something that has not Changed at all , there are no Live tournaments , there are no indications that it is Another way of playing, the only casino that i have seen that has this feature is betnomi and it is full of people on the Forum.

Well building an entire ecosystem of poker network is pretty much the same as building an entire casino from the scratch. Aside from that, its going to cost them fortune to actually do that so I dont think Stake is willing to do that much on a market that has been controlled by several top poker network. At best they will cooperate with an existing poker network then launched poker in Stake, pretty much that


So its pretty much lip service huh

It's a good news. I haven't met Live poker in an online casino yet

There are places! and they work very well, but the issue is the traffic and consequently the prizes, the Fiat casinos dedicated to poker hold weekly tournaments with a wide variety of GTD and buyin.

That is what moves the poker players niche, the buyin/GTD ratio. And several crypto poker casinos have it, not compared in variety and quantity, but there are, usually only on Sundays, or a monthly special.

But even so, in some of these crypto casinos dedicated to poker you can get excellent prizes based on that relationship, but the reality is that the players are limited to staying in these traditional casinos.

On the other hand, you have to distinguish between playing using crypto and depositing crypto, things that several Fiat casinos already have.

^Dont forget that Stake.com has its own forum too, that s probably a potential that there will be more players in live poker.
This is good news and I really like poker games since then, probably I will try to play there and open an account if this will happen. Player to player game in poker is a good one not against on the house edge. I hope this is not only a rumor and Eddie will launch the poker game as soon as possible.

Stakes is more known with sports betting but additional games would be more entertaining especially for gamblers who usually jumps from one game to another. In such case, they won't need to move to other platform just to play poker. I hope other gambling games as well will be added. But I cannot blame those  stake players who'd still play with other poker sites 'coz there are differences and for an instance bonuses and rewards unless stake will offer likewise. Good platforms would adapt with fellow competitors for sure in order to sustain their 'position' or reputation in this industry as one of the most popular ones.

I am very happy if a poker game is added, of course, by using crypto I can play poker games, especially competing in a room against people and betting and it is even more fun if there is a poker competition in it, at least there are new games that I can play on stake sites and not always keep playing Limbo.

I hope Eddie is really serious about adding poker to the Stake.com site because I will definitely feel comfortable there and playing, so far I've only bet on football at Stake which of course it won't be long before the ball game will have a break in the summer so there's no betting balls that I can play, of course it's very boring if you play in certain casinos, I hope there are poker games in the summer.  ;)

Well, the owners and the management usually don't lie about such things, they just give out updates when they have actually planned something, it is just that it is not easy to implement everything so quickly and they usually go for one thing at a time and users start thinking that they are doing nothing but that is not the reality.

I've worked with cryptocurrency projects in the past and I know how it goes. The team does its best to bring new features and products for their users but it just takes time and most users are not patient enough.

I have seen a lot of emotion in this hio, many things that are very much waiting for what I am going to do in stake.com, as I said hopefully they can establish a poker game like PVP or live tournaments where you can enter with little money, the idea is that everyone can participate and have a lot of chances to win, that's what I hope anyway, whatever they do regarding poker intrigues me a lot, and that makes me think about a lot of things, besides this casino is one of the most recognized and this makes a difference because they have already Traveled a long way.

The absence of mandatory Know Your Customer (KYC) verification on Stake might raise concerns about potential abuse, as you mentioned. However, it's worth noting that many online poker platforms have security measures in place to combat chip dumping and collusion, even if they allow anonymous play. Implementing effective security protocols is crucial to ensure a fair and safe environment for all players.

Well this is a really nice move, I am not a great poker player but I do like it but for some reason poker has never enjoyed the popularity in this market that it deserves, now one of the biggest casinos we have is setting their sights on poker, if they are doing so then we can speculate that this is the case because they are seeing the opportunity to position themselves as the leaders of the poker market of cryptocurrencies without too much of a problem, I hope they are right as it would be great that poker became popular and I could play at any time and there were some poker tables available to do so.

^Yes, because it is important to consider the reputation and reliability of the platforms they choose. Established and reputable platforms often adapt and grow to stay competitive in this industry. They understand the importance of meeting players' expectations and offering enticing incentives to maintain their position and attract new users. Platforms like Stake can indeed strive to introduce similar bonuses and rewards to well-compete with their competitors. By keeping an eye on the trends and preferences of the gambling community, they can make adjustments to their offerings, ensuring that players feel rewarded and valued.

This is good news in a way since this is coming from one of the most popular and reputable casinos we have around and also let's see how the development will go and how interesting the game will be at stake, but I am sure we are going to have some good time having poker on stake.

And I am also looking forward to seeing when the casino will arrange one of the biggest tournaments in the games, seeing how popular some casinos have become through the help of such competitions.

I am not good in poker at all, I prefer games like roulettes which are very easy to play with big odds. But I have noticed one thing about poker, that it is not common at all on crypto gambling sites. I will doubt it to be certain if I have noticed it on crypto gambling site before, but I do not think so. Or can you mention me one crypto casino that has poker. What I am just saying is that poker is not common on crypto casino sites for now. If Stake brings it, it is a good thing.

Let's see then.

I also want these, I hope they build a good system like "Evolution Games" or maybe doing some partnership with 'Evo' using their technology and platform. Rather than waiting so long for build these.

Looking forward.

Poker is unpopular but still, it is a very good game for tournaments most especially in a round where players battle against each other to win the prize, and we have a few cryptocurrency casinos that offer poker games, and one popular one among them is Betnomi, because, in time past, betnomi is the only casino that has organized poker tournaments here is the forum.

They have done that once or twice giving forum member the chance to battle for the prize and each time yahoo62278 have been their organizer, if I am not mistaken.

This should be happened many years ago , because stake already proven to be successful and trusted site for crypto gamblers so having Poker? and will conduct event and competition?cannot wait to see this coming soon.
Whatever comes since this is stake that we are talking? we can be sure that this is best and better for all gamblers .

The poker series started out on SwC and was 1st organized by efialtis. After SwC series we ended up moving to Betnomi where I organized 2 series and icopress organized a 3rd.

I wouldn't say poker is unpopular as much as I would say most on here are not experienced enough to put their money into it.

Exactly, but there is a possibility they will create their own network if we look at the fact Stake was also created from the scratch while basically they can modify/improve Primedice but they decided to create/build a new casino. Cooperating with existing network has a big benefit as well because there is at least player base already in the existing network. Lets see how it goes. However what I'm afraid is that if Stake add the poker in their current website, it will make the site become slower unless they also do a big upgrade in the current website.

This will be an amazing idea if they will partner on evolution gaming since it will be in live poker table and dealer while we are playing virtually at home. The only problem was evolution gaming doesn’t have any games offered that is pure PVP skill based game. They have poker but it’s always player against the house.

But if Stake manage to provide a live poker table which player can play against each other with live dealer on table then this is the best poker table so far on online casino since it gives the experience of playing on real table.

Absolutely, this is smashing news! Adding poker to Stake is definitely gonna spice things up and could bring in more punters. Plus, let's not forget the tidy sum the company could net from the raked pots. You made a cracking point about whether Stake will build its own poker software or hook up with an existing network. Doing it themselves means they hold all the cards on game mechanics, rake policies, and crucially, they can stick to their current KYC standards. But this could also pile pressure on their development team and might mean fewer players around in quieter hours.

On the other hand, if they buddy up with a well-established poker network, Stake could instantly tap into a wider bunch of players and a battle-hardened software solution. But this could also mean stricter KYC checks, which might scare off some users. It's a real balancing act, for sure. And I'm totally with you on game variety. More options could make Stake a lot more engaging and could cater to the different abilities and tastes of players. Here's hoping they take players' feedback onboard!

Of course it does. Original game is new in the eye of the gamblers so they will get curious to try it and who knows? They might like it and it can now be one of their favorite games. Poker is not a feature but it's called a game. One example of feature is the chatbox or the notification bell. A new feature can excite a gambler and it can enhance their existing experience so it is helpful too if the casino will came up with it.

Stake is a big casino so don't worry about the development and hosting fees. They can surely afford these. It seems clear to me that this was a stand alone poker game or category, just like sports betting. It made sense since I know there are already several poker games on Stake.

If the news is true then that would be a really nice addition. There are no good poker games in world of crypto gambling and we only have the casino games and some other games that purely are for the lucky ones. If poker is added and basically a poker game similar to "Governor of Poker," then that would make the site more attractive. I will surely join it if the game looks and works similar to GOP because that would be more entertaining and not only gambling but a way of enjoyment as well.

There are some live poker games on some gambling sites, but I feel those aren't well-suited for every poker player. The sites does offer the live version and some people play poker in that style, but for me that takes away the control from the gambler and leaves it in the hands of the one who is arranging that live poker game.

Poker is not equal poker. What kind of poker variants will there be? I assume Texas Hold'em will be offered, naturally. Omaha Hold'em and Chinese poker would be nice additions as well. I wonder why crypto poker is so relatively small compared to other games? You would think it would be bigger, especially since it is relatively popular in every other non-crypto casino, especially physical location casinos.

As far as skill with poker goes, I think most of it lies in the ability to read someone elses bluff. Which used to be a skill since it was/is a face-to-face game but its almost impossible over the internet. So I would wager its more a luck game than anything, now.

Yes correct.

Especially for like Player vs Player things, the main problem are the player. Partnership with Stake x Evo should no need to looking a player again since Stake have a lot user almost 20,000 online at the same time + Evo is favorite live-games.

It's nice, If they can build that.

How is Poker unpopular? Poker is one of the most popular and widely played gambling games in the world, the top three most popular casino games are Slots, BlackJack, and Poker. So it is not really unpopular, it is just that some people might not like playing poker which basically has to do with them not being skilled in the game.

I myself am not a fan of Poker since I never played it and I don't understand it very well, even if I get to know how it is played, I won't be very skillful and will probably lose every game I participate in.

I really want to play poker on crypto casino, I chase it and still don't know any popular and trustworthy casino that has Poker in their game list. Btw it will be more fun if they join the network but I agree with you, they will be able to do on their own too.

    -  I also noticed that there are really only a few poker games in the field of crypto, only a few of them actually exist. I've been hearing about poker for a long time but I don't know how to play it, but I have a cousin who competes nationwide here in my country and he has a manager who handles him.

But even so, I still didn't have an interest in something that I probably just didn't like to play. But when you say that there is rake that returns to the player, isn't it if there is a large amount of rake that comes back, it means that the amount used to play cryptop gambling is also a large amount.

It would be great if the Stake team could evolve this way, but it would be difficult for them to compete with networks like GG, WPN, 888, Pokerstars, etc. Personally, I would prefer to see daily multi-table tournaments from Stake, as well as regular series with BTC prize pools.
As for the statement that poker is a luck game, I don't agree with that. Luck can matter in a certain hand, but only skill is a decisive factor in the long run. Just look at the list (https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/ranking/all-time-money-list/) of the richest poker players. Some of them have already won over $40-60 million. I highly doubt that any of these players are capable of winning tournaments on a regular basis relying only on luck.

SWC and Betnomi, I think these 2 are the most reliable places if you wanna play pvp poker game with crypto.
I was very active poker players years ago but when I was still playing in fiat poker sites.
When I started to gamble in crypto casinos, I do not play poker much but I always try whenever there is a new poker site in this crypto gambling industry.
With the current situation of Stake where they have huge player base, I think it will be a great movement from Stake to expand their business and gain more profit.

Well, Stake has resources... but are they willing to spend a nice amount to get into poker more seriously or not time will tell. I guess it would be great to see a crypto poker place that can come closer to 888, Poker Stars, and some others.

But when is this? and is it about poker tournaments ? I know that this keeping everyone waiting is very exciting , because we are waiting, in Addition , all this is taken advantage of because there are not many sites where pvp poker games work to be active , if they are looking for this to be active 24 hours a day day it would be something that is great, but if for poker games that are against the same casino it would be something very disappointing for me , because we all expect it to be something like that and quite big, where with some money you can Enter and play a lot , and the Tournaments that are made with good Prizes , that Motivate.

No worries. It's is not about casino game poker.

They are talking player vs player in a real poker format. Hopefully they figuring out something good behind the curtain. Poker has so many nice games, it would be sad to just feature no limit holdem or something.

We would at least need several omaha games such as BigO, 5c Omaha, 6c Omaha and so on. Those are action games where the provider can actually make to most earnings (rake) .

If they add poker then they should do it right. Not some half axxed try to make a decent option for players to play at. This would expand their brand a lot if it's done right. Also there are plenty of sponsorships opportunities for streamers and in live events, Poker still is super popular as a viewing experience as well.

Unfortunately he seems to love to speak and announce many things but after that nothing happens for some reasons, especially when someone from the chat say one feature is missing during his live streams. But I wonder why they haven't already added it if they were interested in this matter. Even smaller casinos like Nitrobetting or Betnomi already have a poker room so it shouldn't be very hard for a big platform like Stake to create one.  

What I can see here is that Stake will surely pay attention to all concerns of players
as they have proven themselves to be serving their players for how many years now so presenting poker games will be another milestone for them to extend gamblers love.
but like you , I have interest of Stake.com offering Poker as they need to go with the flow as this may be an old game but still popular to many gamblers specially now in online gambling.

It depends on what kind of poker Stake will have. If their goal is to create a poker cash game, then it really shouldn't be a hard task for them because they only need to add some tables on their site. However, if the Stake team wants to create a full-fledged poker room, they will need to create their own software for that anyway. In that case, that doesn't seem to be such an easy and quick task.

The demand on poker is not that high on crypto casino as you can see on other casino offering this kind of game. I doubt Stake is planning a full fledged poker room while they can only just add table for like what they did on their Evolution Gaming Exclusive Blackjack table.

I think they are doing the same path with their Blackjack tables on Evolution Gaming. They are just trying to customized the feature since this table is not available so far on Evo which probably the reason for the long wait for this game.

It may be that there is not as much demand in the casino for the game of poker because there are no poker games that are good, there are no poker games where you play against other people, there are only places where you have to pay to enter a tournament , and that is in few casinos, that is why there is not so much demand, but I have seen that in the threads there are poker players who have a lot of experience and who know many strategies, and they can also teach , I would like to play against all of them I know I would Lose, because I wouldn't know how to play, I would just play my game, but it's hard to win against experienced players.

Nitro has poker full of collusion and betnomi poker is provided by a 3rd party. Their poker you are playing a player pool across many different networks. Private tourneys that have been organized are only bitcointalk players but the other tourneys and ring games are from the rest of the network.

I am curious to see stake launch poker(who knows how long players will be waiting), but I'm also curious how they plan to stop collusion.

swcpoker.club, right? Cool, I found video of someone on youtube playing swcpoker and I can say that interface of their software looks familiar to me. I'm a little bit lazy to register on Betnomi but can't find a video of how it looks/feels to play poker on their website. Btw betnomi looks like a good option, it's a casino with a lot of games at the same time.

Great news, new poker opportunities are always good to see. I agree, there is not enough poker happening with cryptos directly. Most of the big poker casinos allow us to withdraw money via cryptos, but it's something else when crypto casinos have their own poker rooms. Hopefully there will be some good bonuses at the start to attract a lot of new players. The main issue I see with poker rooms is that they don't attract enough players to get full tables outside of the rush hours. Poker is a scalable business that depends on the number of players. If gamblers have to wait too long to get a full table they might choose to play at a different site. That is why it might bet better at the start to only focus on one or two poker variants like NoLimit and PotLimit, so most players will play at the same tables. Having some sponsored weekly Sit'n'Go tournaments could be a good way to attract new players  and keep them engaged for a longer period of time.

I agree with you that adding poker room is not a hard thing for Stake but I think it is not about hard or easy, it must be related to "priority to have" list. They have not added it till now because maybe they have other priorities to have or to do in the past several years and maybe they think that this year is the right time for them to add it.

      -   Maybe the management at Stakes.com noticed that they have a lot of players on their gambling platform who are poker players so they have planned to put poker games here as well, they wouldn't do that if they knew the stakes were losing.

So that's only in favor of poker players, but for sure most of their clients are still lovers of slot games and so on. But even so, the stakes in poker games are also huge.

I agreed. Casino games and sports betting are the 2 most profitable things they can offer, so that's the priority of course.

Poker on the other hand brings new players and maybe these players will also try some of their other games, so it is definitely a smart move to add poker. Since they just offer the software and collect the rake there is also no real risk involved, just lay back and collect basically.

Hopefully they will get this on the market anytime soon and won't let their players much longer for it.

Btw, poker streaming is also super popular and since stake bought KICK streaming a while back that would be the perfect fit as well! Can't bring this out on a better time than now I think.

This would be great addition to the stake as there might be many players willing to have poker there with some exciting tournaments and events for the players.Although I have not played it for few months now but earlier I used to play it on Swc poker site and was interested to gamble over there and also take part in some competitions and seeing other forum members also there trying to win some prizes.

Even not gambling, there are a lot of games, even offline or online, for casual games open with the use of this game for free, so once they want to play gambling on their own, they have the chance to play and earn money and not just casual gameplay, currently I'm trying to open the stake.com do they down for a while? seems like not accessible in my just new on this concern; well by the way, there are a lot of table top games already dominating the game, and one of the trends is the sports betting, and blackjack seems like if the stake will add these needs to have a considerable class event.

This attitude reminds me of Elon Musk. You know Elon right? He is also good at making false promises but there are times he did it and then revised it. Don't know if he is confused or he is only playing tricks on us.

I think Eddie said it so that those peeps will hold on and continue playing on his site but they can always remind him again. If he still did not implement the feature, that should be the time for them to leave the casino. If they won't add it, it simply means they are not interested with it and they might be contented on what their existing features has to offer. Maybe they are earning decent with it?

So, why will they prioritize a single request coming from a normal user but as you said, there are casinos who has a poker room on them, so why can't the user go them instead? And maybe that is also the reason on why Eddie didn't bother making one.

Yes, you are right because I'm sure people will like the game of poker and tournaments, but sometimes it's rare for someone to have the courage or the confidence to bet on playing poker in tournaments against other people, I haven't seen any additional poker games on the Stake.com site, so far I haven't played poker since a year ago, but if it was added to Stake.com I would definitely be happier playing there than on other sites.

I am sure that with the game of poker it will certainly add to the many games at the casino because obviously I need a game that is not boring especially when football sports betting rests this summer it will definitely be boring playing the casino games that I play.

If stake does in fact implement this at some point on the future they need to do it with the intent of trying to make more players to try poker as a gambling game, after all the number of poker players on this market is on the low side without any signs it will go up, so if they want this new enterprise to become successful they really need to encourage more people to play poker, not an easy thing to do but something they will have to do for sure.

I'm not updated on this but it's an excellent move from the top casino in the industry to do this if you have a link to the stream the better or maybe in the coming weeks or when they are ready they will announce it through a newsletter, this is something to watch forward for the top casino in the industry, I'm sure it will be welcomed by poker players all over the world.
This is a good promotion for Poker since Stake is very active in promoting additional games and features.

This particular game is the kind of game that I would not know so far so I believe that some of us that discussed about this poker game does not really know the functions or the functionalities of the game so I would like to know let some people joke with me how we make a poker game in some particular platform

I would be happy with just good old texas hold'em tournaments with big prices. But more the merrier. It's been a long time since i last played and i will definitely join to some matches when this becomes real, but i am wondering if game is at all changed by people using GPT AI. I am starting to think that would make people make safer bets, trusting the probability, but i see it would give people who are irrationally bluffing a huge edge.

If stake.com adds online play for players in real mod , it would be great , well, They can do it there , they have all the Infrastructure and the community to do it , and it's also something that's Great , because you need a Site that offers this playing poker and poker tournaments all the time against other people, in addition to recovering that taste for poker , poker is gaining a lot of Momentum, there are only sites like pokerstars.net where poker is played in this way but with fiat money , Something totally new would be done here , and how is stake.com they would always keep it.

Yeah man, that really would be something.

What don't understand though, what's taking them so long. Every day they don't offer poker is a day they let extra money slip through their hands. Of course they already earn more than enough with casino and sports but poker really is that special something that's totally missing on the site.

They already have the huge customer base that's just waiting for it.

All investment they need is for building the platform and then it's basically printing extra money. So much rake to be made, so many poker streamers to be lured to KICK, so many advertising possibilities at poker tournaments around the globe.
Just do it!

They will need to find new markets soon, so poker could be a good idea, because the hype on slot games is finishing. Many gamers watching Twitch have been caught by the hype, but now this activity had been banned by Twitch, there is less and less newcomers. And the older customers are understanding they will never be able to win money with slots in the long run and stop spending endlessly their money. In addition decentralized casinos without KYC are coming, so Stake won't be able to make big profits anymore, if they don't find new strategies and activities.

Is there somewhere we can read some information on this or is this just something mentioned by Eddie on stream that may or may not come to fruition? I haven't seen a stake rep comment as far as I know.

The question I have been meaning to ask is that,  have stake representatives confirm this development,  because I have read through a few pages of this thread I did not see anywhere that they're mentioned that there are concurring with this statement and also they have not been any development to point to that direction that stake is underway with the development and inclusion of online poker on their platform, maybe I will ask this in the group to see in this correlate with the officials.

There is no official information about this plan. I tried to find about it by visiting their forum, social media accounts, as well as their official site but no information/announcement that they are going to add poker soon. Eddie mentioned it as a clue only on what the big thing to come next in Stake and maybe it is still on their to do list but it is on their main priority list.

Thanks for taking the time to look around and try to find concrete answers for everyone on here regarding poker coming to stake.

I also had time to look for this information, there was no discussion about Poker whatsoever from Stake's official social media either, but I'm back here it turns out you discussed it too, I don't think we can experiment with anything that comes from Stake, to be honest I like the game of poker but I would love it if it was added to Stake, I can see on their official website or social media that they discuss poker.

As far as I can see there isn't any information about this yet but it's true if it gets added and is already on their priority task list it would be great to see Poker play at stake. i will probably monitor this development also on their ANN thread also on this thread or their official social media.  ;)

Everything in stake.com is something new and promising for everyone, which if I can attest, is that they are not going to let us down, the development or what they are doing, it will be something that many would like, because I am sure that that the vast majority of big poker players will like it, I've always played poker, but like I said before, there's nothing like playing against people in a tournament or something, I haven't done it in a long time. time. , and also before they had many Platforms that offered this service for free, it is strange that there is not now that there are so many active players in the world.

In 2017 when I started playing games, dice, casino, poker, I found a platform where you had to download a software to play poker, and there were online tournaments all the time, it was free and whoever won had a prize on mbtc, I I don't remember how much it was, but it was worth it for that moment, it's a shame I don't follow that software anymore, but I hope they do something similar on stake.com, the truth is they have everything to do, of course there are paid tournaments that will arouse great interest Of people around the world, most play poker with fiat money, but playing with cryptocurrency is something much more exciting.

The good thing about poker tournaments if it is in PVP mode is that the emotions are greater, and the strategies that have been studied and that many look for on the web can be applied with humans, and players from anywhere in the world, the truth is I'm excited to see what they'll come up with, I'm sure they'll blow our minds.

If stake.com does something like this, I'm sure many platforms will start to do something similar, because it's always like that, but I'm sure if they do something like this with poker, they can also do it with games like Black Jack It would be great if they could do it that way, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself a lot, but I think anything is possible.

Indeed, if such a world-class casino promises to make it possible to play poker using cryptocurrencies and in real time, this is a very interesting development. 
I have no doubt that the security experts will provide all the necessary measures to ensure that such a game would be as fair as possible and then naturally it will be interesting.  There will surely be a fairly large number of poker players with extensive experience who will try to play in this casino as well.  Because the casino has a long-standing and very positive image, and such players can be quite confident in the honesty of the game. 
I'm also looking forward to the opportunity to play.  But first of course I'll see how other players play. 
Maybe the level of the game will be such that I shouldn't even come close to the gaming table there.  :)

I'm only interested if they have their own private network and it has mixed games.

Also they have to make Drake and Santosh play in the games

Totally. I also hope they make their own private network. That keeps the sharks out, at least in the beginning and probably a lot of money can be made until words makes the round there are plenty of fish to catch playing poker at stake.

Mixed games should be there 100%. I don't remember the last time I played NLH, it's just too boring in my opinion.

5 card omaha, especially the hi/lo variant is the most fun and bad players make the most mistakes. Best games to exploit weak opponents.

As the game is in demand and have large scale users base who will be ready to jump into the game when it will be added.So there might be assumptions that it will be added to stake although we can't say anything unless the official statement comes from the team.They are renowned in this market so they will look after the needs of gamblers and will implement decision based on it.

Everyone has different preferences, and mixed games are definitely needed. Personally, I prefer to play mostly NLH, especially multi-table tournaments. Anyway, if the Stake team can create its own private network, it will be great. Although as I mentioned earlier, it will be very hard for them to compete with giants like GGNetwork.

Many a times, business doesn't have to be all about competing with the other business, forget about what happens there and just do your thing, it is commonly said that the sky is wide enough for every bird to fly without colliding on each other, so also it is for business running on this earth, yeah, it is a fact that some times, we need competition as it encourages us to more to be better than the other, it encourages growth, but it is also very important to always keep every competition at a very healthy level, we invite problems into our business when we try to compete with another business in an unhealthy manner, when you see a business you know have gone too far and you possibly can not compete with them, then, start your own and just focus on growing, the fact that you can not compete with that other business should not be a reason why you can not start your own.

When it comes to Stake doing what ever GGnetwork is doing, Stake got the money, they have the connections, they have the userbase, and lastly and importantly, they have the experience, all the matter is their decision to go ahead or not.

Let's imagine they play... $500/$1000 table! Who will play with them? :) Even if we imagine some lower min/max blind table it will be the same, many of us can just imagine playing on these tables.


Crypto needs a good poker place... with mixed games and many poker variants, and most of all active players. I guess Stake can attract players, but still except for some rumors, we don't have much. So I doubt that we will see poker at Stake anytime soon.

Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Why even bother talking about it when nothing else follows after that. Maybe it's the same problem like with the sports book. They don't really care. All they care is getting more people to play casino, everything else doesn't matter aparently.

Yes it is definitely good for the house. Because it gets players in the door who may gamble on other things. But be patient, if they are going to do it, you want it done right. They need to have specialists who can analyze hands for cheating and ban cheaters. And protections against that. Also the software if they develop it themselves, which they should. Because you can't trust outside parties for this type of thing.

I'm a poker guy and a bitcoin guy so if they get poker I will probably be on there. And again, they should have a marketing department that gets SANTOSHI. HIS NAME IS BASICALLY SATOSHI. And drake. 50-100 PLO games would be awesome on there. Stream it online and make tons, stake. We are rooting for you

It would be exciting if Stake would add poker games to their site and if you are a guy who is good at poker, you can play poker there and win some money. But it won't be easy because many poker game experts will also play poker at Stake.

You have to really bring out all your abilities in playing poker to win from them. I hope you win lots of money and have your name on the leaderboard in Stakes.

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

Well GG is really the biggest network but creating your own would have some merit I think. You can keep all your profits and just pay for the development.
Also, if you want to join a network this would make KYC mandatory, which would also be a big change for stake. Joining a network would open stake up for money laundering ( deposit at stake -> lose the money to for example a gg poker account -> withdraw ). So I think they would prefer to keep the action "in house" .

Are there really that strict location rules? I know in Germany because of their stupid gambling tax it is hard to play poker unless the network makes specific rules for German players. Other than that I didn't hear anything about it.

After a long silence about poker on stake we just got a little update on stream.

Some person asked in chat what's happening and Eddie said poker will first come to stake.us "very soon" as yet another "social experience", funny how they are still trying to frame it as a "social casino" .

If the test run on the us site turns successful they will also offer it at .com, so that are interesting news for people who want to use their poker skills on stake in the future.
If the software will actually worth be anything is a different story.

Dry compared to slots maybe, but it has like a 100 million online poker players. Lots of them, like i have to play it somewhere else as stake doesn't yet provide it, but i would move to stake for poker in a heartbeat. And sites i trust and use make me download a software to play it with. Which is ok as an app with a phone but not for my pc laptop. If stake would offer browser based tournaments, i thing lots of players would move into it.

Poker will be something that helps the business grow, but I don't blame them for testing the waters on 1 site before spending the money to integrate it on both sites. I hope it is popular and it gets launched on both sites so that noone is left out. Poker is popular worldwide.

Good update i must say, i personally have never played poker before, and neither do i know how to play it, but i do have friends who are really into the game, and in the area where i live, one will have to travel several miles to find a physical casino where they can play poker, since the online casinos that offer the game is very limited.

The news of the game coming to stake is a good one sincerely, and since they have chosen to test it on the us version of the site for now, all i can hope is that all goes well as they expect, so that they can also get the game listed on the main stake .com site, i possibly may learn to play through my friends if they get the game integrated on the main site.

So there isnt any ETA on this yet huh. I kinda wonder if they are going to launch it this year


I was actually comparing it to the largest poker network currently which is ggpoker. Aside from that, stars and wsop is probably pretty popular in US as well so starting your own network is actually not a good decision. Well of course its Stake we are talking about, they could spend millions for months on developing their own poker and it would never harm them at all so yeah


give us your opinion on this in case you will try them in the future. Im not sure how strict Stake is with their VPN policy, pretty tempted to use VPN to access stake.us once they launch it there

If you never played it before just one advise, don't try to play it instantly when they offer it, you will most likely lose all your money against people that actually know what they are doing.
Poker is a very complex game where of course luck has an influence but a long time player will always prevail over a newbie or maniac person .

It's a fun game, if you know what you're doing :) .

You can learn/play for free at many sites by the way, with play money. But don't expect the real games being as soft as play money ones. People that play with play money act super lose and aggressive since they don't have anything to lose.

Poker is a global game and integrating it into Stake will boost their traffic level because poker is an internationally known game and among the most referenced casino games,  I don't know what the main reason for the special attention to poker games

But then also we have to encourage more poker tournaments we have some food managers and organizers here also, so this will help a lot and I believe this could be in the pipeline for the long term.

Oh my gosh, why does it take so long to add poker on their website? Is it really that hard process to add poker? Almost every fiat casino has it and I believe Stake's team is not a team full of juniors, there will be many people from working experience that have worked on various casino product, including poker. Or why do they need to test it at .us website and then add on .com website? I hope that testing process won't last for a long time because I am really itching to play it on crypto casino.
By the way, you suggested me gg poker two weeks ago and I enjoy it. I think Stake has to hurry up or they will lose me :D

It would be a nice thing if it was actually added to stake.com in addition to stake.us because I also don't want to use a VPN to try the game, at least it will look fair and comprehensive for all users to access the game, in the end I Wait, come there too, I like playing poker, especially poker tournaments, I would be happy if this was held soon so I could play this poker game just to win and make money.

Obviously this will be interesting news where maybe all other poker players will be happy to join this game at stake.com, after all if there are lots of user requests it is impossible for them to refuse it, because service to their users is of course a priority for them and I probably one of which supports this is being held immediately

Poker used to be one of the games that received a lot of recognition at first, but somewhere along the line, the market dropped significantly to the point that several poker tournaments that were hosted all happened to go in a particular direction, with low participation, but also that doesn't mean that the tournament was left unattended to in some cases players who want to take parts have a different time schedule.
In the long run, poker still remains one of the most popular games that many players will always find interesting at whatever point in time and also having the mindset of maximum excitement from poker games so its development into stake is a great move that will push for further higher traffic to stake.

Actually I am not sure if there will be poker tournaments, at least in the beginning.
Since stake is so money hungry and want to squeeze their customers they will prefer if there is a lot cash game action. Collecting cash game rake brings much more money than tournament fees. So I think their focus will strongly be on cg.
But of course I can be totally wrong here. We never know what stake is doing. Maybe they listen to the community, that's the best they could do.

Not really

It depends on where you play poker though. I've probably only seen 1 tournament with overlay prizepool in ggpoker network out of 100 tournaments. Most of the time, the tournaments action on there is pretty packed


Cash games and tournaments goes side by side, you cant just leave one out just because its not profitable. It would kill the point of having poker in your own site if you are leaving one of it out. Anyway, Stake as a company has a pretty high valuation though so they probably wouldnt mind losing money for the first 3 months if they arent going to make money from poker tournaments in case if they have one

While I would love to see a truly successful crypto poker site, I'm not sure there are enough people around the world who could make it as popular as something like PokerStars or GGPoker. Those sites are successful, having thousands of players even at the low points of the day, but the fact they are fiat based just gives them a much higher audience. The fact is many people still do not have any interest in crypto nor want to mix it into the gambling mix. Those that do have crypto usually have it with the intention of holding on long term or using it for a particular purpose besides gambling. It will also take a huge effort, which will be greatly helped by their existing player base they can direct there, in order to reach that self sustaining critical mass of players.

While I agree with most of what you say, I kind of wonder how true our thinking actually is. I get bored from time to time and used to explore Twitch streamers, now Kick streamers since certain sites were banned on the platform.

If there are not thousands of users interested in crypto, then why are there 10s of thousands of viewers on some of these streamers like Adin Ross or Trainwrecks? Why would sites waste their money hiring these big named streamers, or having sponsorships with sports personas, or even waste money paying for advertising?

I think there are more people interested in crypto than we think and we just have to stay vigilant in spreading the word. Get people engaged and show them that crypto is here to stay. That along with new ways to use their crypto(such as poker) will be the way to get more and more interested in crypto.

I hope this launch happens soon and I hope it goes well. I feel like poker is much easier to make money on vs all the other games a casino may offer.

Several crypto gambling sites tried attracting poker lovers, but failed primarily due to bad execution and losses. Stake will probably end up in a similar situation even if they actually decide to add poker later.

I don't think it's happening anytime soon because the site isn't exactly in its best state due to bonus cuts, rising negative criticism etc.

      -  That's fantastic and will benefit high stakes poker players as well. The stakes can still be watched to see if gamblers will appreciate it or how many players will enter the games they add to their platform, so it's likely still in the experimental stage.

In light of the fact that poker is now quite popular both locally and worldwide, I appear to have noticed that it is not as noisy as it formerly was. So, in my opinion, that may perhaps increase the selling of stakes.

I wouldn't say that GG is only based on fiat. They have many methods for deposit and withdrawal, including cryptocurrencies like BTC, ETH, USDT, and USDC. So even if Stake can launch a poker room and it becomes successful, it will still be very problematic for them to compete with a giant like GG. I mean, Stake is unlikely to be able to offer anything special in terms of poker that is not available on GG at the moment.

If they decide to collaborate with big poker network such as ggpoker, they have bigger chance to survive with the poker.
Lets say Stake prefer to create their own poker network, I think it is not a bad idea since they have big player base already now and it is a good start.
Most other sites that failed in the past are mostly new sites that come with poker game only and started like from ZERO so it is reasonable if most of them failed.
Betcoin and fortunejak or may betnomi, these 3 sites did try to have poker but all of them also failed although they have player base but I'm sure the number of active players are not as big as what we can see in Stake.

Well, you have to remember something, good things take time to wait, maybe stake.com has been preparing something very good that we can all love and can make a difference, personally I would think that things are about how to do the best job Well , stake.com has a Guarantee on that , so when we make a small break, we can realize that at stake.com things are of fairly high quality and better things can be given when we think that they can be done? Since they can face many things to stay up to date, we could say that each person Assigned a special job to this casino is not doing it for the sake of doing it, they are not doing it to fulfill what they do for all of us, so you see that when things become They do the world's greatest care and Attention , because they look good, and I think or imagine that they are creating a Platform where many things can be assigned, including making lathes 24 hours a day and Being in traffic , Although people who Want to play for free also have options to do it and even to win, as well as the software that betcoinpoker Had, what was Amazing for me was a wonder.

This is something that we cannot lose sight of, I don't think they are Taking so long just because it is a simple thing, for me things will be much bigger , because personally I would think that stake.com could be doing something well done that Many players Worldwide will fall in love with what they are doing and will obviously have it assigned to stake.us because they cannot leave them so helpless, I think things can turn out for the better, I have not seen a job poorly done by this casino , which for me is one of the largest in the world and for that reason they are so successful currently, in this order of ideas, I imagine that when they launch this wonder , only other casinos will try to copy the system, because everything works like that There is no other way , the Competition is Always that way.

Your points are valid, but not all of those active players are interested in poker which is why it's still risky though Stake can definitely afford to take that risk considering how rich and popular they are.

What I find odd is that @Ahoy posted about it way back in May and there hasn't been a single update about it since then which makes me think that they probably abandoned those plans.

Getting into the poker scene requires a lot of skin in the industry, you can't just set something up and go. They probably got roadblocked with foreseeable marketing and regulatory issues. Not to mention, Stake is facing a lot of complaints from customers at the moment and the rate of complains does not look like it's slowing down. It seems that they are facing bigger problems than tying to tap the poker market.

Yeah I also found it strange it is taking them such a long time.
But according to Eddie on stream they "want to do it right, that's why it takes time" .
Maybe they are too busy with all their kick stuff so stake and updates for it take a second seat.

But since they at least said some sort of update now, that they will start and test it at stake.us, I guess it is now that far in the future to see the final product. But do I know it? Sure not! With stake we never know!

Valid points. The global economic meltdown this year hit them hard too due to which they cut many important bonuses here and there and they aren't resolving complaints quickly like before as you mentioned.

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it this year since they might eventually launch it next year or later.

Since I am not an active Stake user I guess they will not see me until the next year, if they add poker... :)

Unless they don't want to handle it on their own.

They need to partnership with provider-game example like (EVO-Games) while the table and everything is being setup for them and that's the reason why these plan really take the time. IMO, Eddie & Stake team don't want to opened or handle the game by their own because to much things to do for the set up system they just can easily do partnership with other provider.

The only problem, right now we don't have any live-game poker and to set up these things required a build from scratch. I hope these poker table are live-game not just a machine things.

Exactly my thought.
After my level up, which is most likely next week, I will become inactive as well.

As soon as they offer poker I will give it a shot and see if there is money to be made but until then I place my bets at pinnacle since the odds are considerably higher there.
These micro bonuses now don't even the missed out money because of the low odds.

Anyway, maybe we can make a raffle, haha. When will stake officially offer poker on their main site.  ;D

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.

You place your bets at Pinnacle, but do you already play poker in other casinos, or other poker sites as well? Unless you're truly a poker player, what difference would Stake bring for the users of BitcoinTalk if they develop and build their own poker service? Why would you say that you'll leave them if they don't offer poker?


It's probably also the smallest and most competitive market, but if Stake believes that they found an opportunity to build something profitable in the Bitcoin/crypto community, then they should hurry before another casino takes the opportunity, no?

Good question and I have an even better answer.
First off, yes I played poker for a long time, right when the hype started in 2003. Been through many sites and places.

For real poker players it would be heaven if stake added poker, maybe only in the beginning though.

Imagine all these players at stake, losing at sports and in the casino. Maybe they just know the basics of poker and now want to "try their luck" at the poker tables. That's what real players are dreaming of. It would be easy to win their money. Obviously over time the word spreads and more and more good players would come to stake to pick up those fishy players but until then it's go time.
You could compare it with Macao when they first introduced poker there. Rich Chinese business men basically burned their cash losing against just a hand full of pros. Nowadays they pros are travelling to and even living in Macao just to pick up these easy $.

By the way, where are you coming up with the story I would leave stake if they don't add poker? I am already leaving stake (because of the weak sportsbook), but I will come back when they add poker, for the just mentioned reasons.  ;)

Well, I honestly do not know what made you think that Stake does not have the type of networking and connections required to get into the poker market and come out with something everyone would truly enjoy playing and also can turn out profitable for the company. And also, talking about reputation, there is absolutely no gambling casino, both physical and online, that do not have some form of scam accusation against them. Understand that most gamblers are some set of angry people who in reality do not understand what gambling is all about, they are quick to accuse a casino of cheating them out of their money after losing the money.

So, the reputation is nothing to be a problem, in-fact, to me, Stake is one of the most trusted and reputation casinos around, they also have the money and whatever kind of connection required to pull this off, if they weren't capable, they wouldn't try, this i am very sure of, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

They can join the poker network at the moment and develop their poker games and when they are fully ready they can it to the already existing ones or they removed the previous or the former ones and bring their new created pokers but before they can do that they have to test the new ones with the old ones for sometimes and see the workability of the both before finally removing the affiliated ones. Stake bringing poker to their platform is a good news because poker is favorite for many gamblers.

Can't wait! I think crypto poker scene hasn't really grown much for the past few years and could really use some mainstream push. Doesn't get any more "crypto mainstream" than Stake. I'll definitely try it out once its active. I'm sure they will get some poker pros on board as well to get more popular among the poker scene.

I remember FortuneJack's poker, it was amazing but sadly no one was playing. I think that crypto casinos fail with Poker because almost all of them started with game Dice and crypto casino for me, an early user, is associated with dice. Since 2017, crypto casinos slowly adopted other games, add slots, sportsbooks, live casinos. I remember there was no Sportsbook on FortuneJack, Bitsler, Stake. We only had betcasino and nitrogen at first, then sportsbet.io was made in 2016. I think crypto casinos need to promote poker and they'll succeed.
Collaboration with poker networks is a quick solution. That won't be bad but I think casino, as big and popular as Stake is, can have its own network and is able to maintain it.

I also really don't understand what's the holdup.
Poker is such an easy moneymaker. They already have a huge player base and a site, all they need is a good software to play at, you can just copy an existing one already.
After you made this you can sit back and collect rake. Of course you have to make your team bigger, create a poker devision. But that's an investment totally worth the hussle.

Poker has so much exposure on streaming and youtube as well, so it is another chance for free advertising. Many serious poker players would love to jump on the chance playing against degenerate casino gamblers for a change.  ;D

That doesnt mean their huge player base would be making money for them through poker. Poker site needs to provide decent prizepool on each tournaments to attract player to join which means as long as it doesnt overlay the prizepool then the site wont be making money. Aside from that only a handful of people actually make money from playing poker thus as time passes lots of players will be hesitant to join if they are losing money constantly

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So is there anything new regarding poker progress on Stake?

I didnt know this but i think is good for the community, Poker is not a easy bussines like some here are saying, you can see some well stablished pages trid it before but ended up closing the poker place because it was not redituable.

But Stake it can be one huge player on the flop, so they can have the back to support the money flow required and also they have a very huge base of players who can jump into it, so lets see how all this develop in the future, i really want to see them open the poker side, and see good and big tournaments with big prizespools.

The most money is not made by tournaments, the money is in cash games where every single hand gets raked and stake gets a cut from the pot. Tournaments and SNGs are just another part but cash game surely is the biggest money maker in offering poker to players.

Normal rake % on average online is 5%, also with a max rake per hand of course so a 10k pot wont be raked 500$, that would be crazy.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of people play tournaments, but not the players stake is targeting. They hanve gamlers on their site that want immediate action.
Tournaments take a lot of time and not every tournament is open to play immediately. Cash game is a sit and play game where people that just lost at black jack or sports can let off even more steam and gamble more.

Real poker players don't consider themselves gamblers but the most people at stake surely are.

They already have Video Poker under their Original Games and that did not ruffle my feathers at all. I would like to see P2P poker championships and also some kind of spectator side betting on those matches.

Poker can be a real money spinner, if you do it right... so they should not do some half ass attempt at doing this. The other Stake original games are getting a lot of action, because they are solid games.  ;)

There are not that many players on some tables of the popular crypto poker websites now. I think it's best for them to keep it exclusive to their very own network and not to tandem and venture with other poker websites. That's the perk of being on stake and they've got their own network and don't need to collaborate with the others.

But if they're also kind and looking forward to have ventures with other networks integrating their system and network with the others, it's also good though.

It is to make the job easier if they're going to let the actual providers do the job for them and let just the brand name itself be attached to it. But it's actually a nice idea to make the poker crypto nights live again because it seems that it's being forgotten by the most. And since there are new ones that want to learn about it, we'll just have to wait to the final day announcement and launch of it.

Before launching a new development into an already existing system like stake, their is a need to first of have a proper test of the new game to be able to detect any possible bugs and get i them fixed before anything else can be done, and also if Stake really has taken this long to have the development done and served to the customer there will have to go through a long time of preparation to get everything set and ready.


So the waiting to me is ok because is better to wait a little than rush into something that may result in future problems and losses for the casino because new game implementation is not as easy as we think from the outside.

Waiting until they have come to the actuality of what they're going to add on their feature is much better.

I just remember when one of the most known poker crypto website in the forum had dominated the scene on this one. That's what I've known for so long but in terms of fiat poker clubs and casinos, I think they're incomparable.

I agree, it takes time and perfection but as long as it works and being liked by its customers after the release, that's nice.

Exclusiveness has benefits. Keeping a unique environment that gives players a unique experience is a power move. Quality and exclusivity are shown by the site's network. Although it's difficult, they appear to be doing their best to keep the community close and the games intimate.

Intergrating with other networks could add new energy and players. Crypto poker nights, which are declining, may revive with the collaboration. Alligning with others while keeping their brand's strength and integrity is a brilliant move.

With the new launch so anticipated, Stake.com is likely considering these possibilities. Every action is likely calculated to ensure they serve their community well. New faces may spark curiosity and attract keen learners. That final declaration will change everything, so let's wait.

To catch BIG players and start to fight in the poker scene they need not only to start poker in the website, but also make some very big tournament of Poker with big stars of the poker journey playing it.

But for this you need a big chunk of money, Stake has it but i dont know if they want to spend it in this right now.

Hopefully they will implement it sooner than later, though.
I am personally interested in partaking in poker (mostly in real life, with real people and real chips) but if States does the investment and brings poker tables on their platforms, it would spend sometime trying to sharpen by skills there and also in some other online poker simulations which would not require me to wager actual money.
Probably, the staff in charge of the development of Stakes games are focusing on maintenance of their Originals rather than bringing new experiences, and since we are talking about one of the biggest casinos on this industry of crypto gambling, it would makes sense for them to focus on what it has been a successful formula for them.
Though, some innovation and investment in poker would be awesome.  :)

You forget to factor in the rakeback, in ggpoker the rakeback would be ranging from 15% up to 85% if you get your account to the highest rank on there so the amount is actually smaller but its still huge when you get decent amount of players playing nonstop. Anyway the amount of people overlaying a tournament is a good indicator that the site is packed though


Yeah we dont  :). Hence we have the word 'professional poker player'  not a 'professional slot player'

They already have a huge based of players and customers and that's why whatever will be the setup of it, for sure that they won't go with zero players on their tables and that's why those poker players are only waiting for the right time to check on how they'd with this.
If it's something usable and likeable by most of them then they will have to stay on it and check if it's a good environment.

The feeling of being exclusive might be considered and that's not going to be taken away from their players so, I guess that's the best option that they have to do. An exclusive tables for their users and those that are not yet registered will register to try and check them out just as what people are voicing about them.

That is what I am saying that there will be for sure new registrants that will like to see how it's good and beneficial for them. Yeah, it's just going to be a matter of time so we wait.

To attract the attention of the poker community, Stake needs to launch not one big tournament but rather a series of tournaments with a huge guarantee. I think popular poker players and even some celebrities would not mind taking part in a poker tournament with a huge prize pool. As far as I know, some poker rooms sometimes give celebrities free tickets to expensive tournaments, thus attracting a new audience to their brand.