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Title: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: libert19 on May 24, 2023, 08:53:50 AM
Is it possible?

Edit:

You can make it a little longer and tell us why you want to know that.

Hero-Legendary rank member signatures tend to be same as far as most as most sign campaigns go. If animated signatures were to be possible, it should be available for legendary members to make the distinction between the two ranks. I'm interested in creativity signature creators will bring in as well.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: _act_ on May 24, 2023, 08:59:13 AM
I do not think you can create animated signature but you can create animated avatar. Animated avatars are annoying and the more you see more people using it the more annoying the avatars become. Animated signature will be worst.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: TryNinja on May 24, 2023, 09:04:13 AM
I do not think you can create animated signature but you can create animated avatar. Animated avatars are annoying and the more you see more people using it the more annoying the avatars become. Animated signature will be worst.
Nope, you can't use animated avatars anymore.

Animated avatars aren't supposed to be allowed, but I never got around to adding detection for the APNG ones. I'll look into it.
OK, APNGs are now detected. Old ones are grandfathered for now, in part because people have ongoing campaigns, but in the future I might (or might not) go through and remove them.

Nor animated signatures, since only plain bbcode is allowed there.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: JeromeTash on May 24, 2023, 09:06:12 AM
Initially it was possible until they were blocked at one point because of how annoying they were, and another issue was "cookie stuffing" (Not sure what that means)

I do not think you can create animated signature but you can create animated avatar. Animated avatars are annoying and the more you see more people using it the more annoying the avatars become. Animated signature will be worst.
Animated avatars were also disabled, except for the guys who had them before the new resolution was put in place. I think Yahoo, Ibminer, Vod and some other few members still have animated avatars


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: John Abraham on May 24, 2023, 12:00:12 PM
Is it possible?

It's not possible. I believe you already knew that for some reason but still decided to create a useless thread.
I mean, Let's say you did not know that. You can make it a little longer and tell us why you want to know that. Are you planning to create such an animated signature? Or you may want to wear an animated signature. Is it how you always create a thread?

I don't get it.
That's me, I want to know!
In Meta because of bold part, what do you think?
Recently moved from LastPass to bitwarden. Question remains same, what about users data if these services go offline for whatever reason?
...encrypt it and put it somewhere safe. Just so, if it goes offline your data remains safe.
Not a big deal, I'm just wondering.
..Supply if validators consent?

These are some of your threads did not add any value to the forum.
You need to follow LoyceV's Suggestion.

@OP: Read theymos' Topic title style guide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.0).


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: hugeblack on May 24, 2023, 12:23:14 PM
Is it possible?
No, it is not allowed, even signatures are not dynamic on many browsers and many of them appear broken in some browsers, so you cannot get animated signatures. Absolutely no animation since there is no [img] tags.

In the past, BTT was sold some ads space ---> https://bitcointalk.org/ad_design.php , but it stopped now, and therefore there is no way to advertise using animation.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: LoyceV on May 24, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".



Once in a while I see "the internet" without Adblock Plus and without "image.animation_mode once", and I hate it with a passion. I'm okay with some ads and some animations, but it quickly gets overused.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: paid2 on May 24, 2023, 01:39:14 PM
The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".
Once in a while I see "the internet" without Adblock Plus and without "image.animation_mode once", and I hate it with a passion. I'm okay with some ads and some animations, but it quickly gets overused.

Yes, you have said it all, I fully share this point of view.

Moreover, one might ask what the real added value of animated signatures would be? I'm not sure if it's necessary to overload the forum pages with useless info/designs, as the hero/legendary distinction is already made through the forum users's profiles and is clearly visible in every message posted.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Woodie on May 24, 2023, 01:52:30 PM
Am sure this is coming from what you have seen (&  what i have seen) from other forums that use banners as their signatures.
Unfortunately here with limited space and BBcode restrictions not possible unless we have aPNG/GIF enabled in sig space...so not possible as answerd above.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: tranthidung on May 24, 2023, 02:57:22 PM
Is it possible?

If animated signatures were to be possible, it should be available for legendary members to make the distinction between the two ranks.
It is impossible and I guess you should know about this as you are not new members after that change.

Forum has many historic changes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.0) and animated avatar disabled is one of such changes.
  • Accepting default Bitcoin avatars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83654.0)
  • Avatars re-enabled (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008863.0)
  • APNGs are now detected (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114171.msg49921264#msg49921264)

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I'm interested in creativity signature creators will bring in as well.
Signature designers can design such avatars which are no longer allowed to wear in the forum. They will waste their time by doing so.

Once in a while I see "the internet" without Adblock Plus and without "image.animation_mode once", and I hate it with a passion. I'm okay with some ads and some animations, but it quickly gets overused.
It was overused in quantity and in the speed of animation too. Some animated avatars are cool, not annoying because of slow speed of animation.

Like this one from Vod. If signatures from signature campaigns have animations like Vod's avatar or even a bit faster, they are not too annoying.
https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_30747.png


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: uchegod-21 on May 24, 2023, 06:41:05 PM
I do not think you can create animated signature but you can create animated avatar. Animated avatars are annoying and the more you see more people using it the more annoying the avatars become. Animated signature will be worst.
Animated signatures would be a nightmare. I mean so many people will even consider to quit the forum than see them. It will be as annoying as advert pop up on random websites.
It will be a very big distraction from reading and engaging in the forum. Just imagine reading a post and brainstorming on how to respond and some silly write up will slide from right to left, or zooming from now where. Oh no, that would be horrible.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: RickDeckard on May 24, 2023, 06:56:12 PM
The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".



Once in a while I see "the internet" without Adblock Plus and without "image.animation_mode once", and I hate it with a passion. I'm okay with some ads and some animations, but it quickly gets overused.
It seems that I can already imagine the flashing animations, big Comic Sans Letters and RGB action in signature, replicated by x amount of users. The readability of the forum would quickly become impossible without some kind of blockage, thus defeating the purpose of the signature campaigns.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: LoyceV on May 25, 2023, 11:14:37 AM
It seems that I can already imagine the flashing animations, big Comic Sans Letters and RGB action in signature, replicated by x amount of users.
I'd much rather see very small images allowed in signatures. The current 4000 character limit produces HTML signatures up to 15 kB (https://loyce.club/signatures/?C=S;O=D), while the artwork still fails in many browsers. Allowing 2 kB GIFs at the cost of 1000 characters would be a nice feature. Maybe for the next Rank if we ever get one :)


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: 348Judah on May 25, 2023, 11:15:44 AM
Hero-Legendary rank member signatures tend to be same as far as most as most sign campaigns go. If animated signatures were to be possible, it should be available for legendary members to make the distinction between the two ranks. I'm interested in creativity signature creators will bring in as well.

This is actually possible to achieve, but o think they create less priority to it because of the signature space which a hero and a legendary rank members have the same, that makes it look more or less thesame, you can see that other lower ranks like sr member and full member have a different signature space, but now left for the campaigns to either make a little difference in their signature codes to differentiate a hero member from legendary, such can be in form of additional colours lines or designs made or leave it as it has always been.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: tranthidung on May 25, 2023, 03:22:13 PM
This is actually possible to achieve, but o think they create less priority to it because of the signature space which a hero and a legendary rank members have the same, that makes it look more or less thesame, you can see that other lower ranks like sr member and full member have a different signature space, but now left for the campaigns to either make a little difference in their signature codes to differentiate a hero member from legendary, such can be in form of additional colours lines or designs made or leave it as it has always been.
If you read several posts in this thread, less than 20 because it has only 1 page so far, you would know some facts
  • Animated avatars were allowed but disabled years ago. Because forum members saw animated avatars are annoying and the core admin (theymos) had the same opinion. He stepped in and code to detect all animated images for avatars and reject such images when people try to upload for their avatars. Only grandfather members still have animated avatars today. But if they take their avatars off, and upload same images again, forum will reject it.
  • Animated signatures would be more annoying than avatars so no chance to see allowance for it.

If you are curious, this one is for you.
Avatar space is not negotiable as I lose my animated avatar if I remove it.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: yahoo62278 on May 25, 2023, 03:37:45 PM

If you are curious, this one is for you.
Avatar space is not negotiable as I lose my animated avatar if I remove it.
I think I might be the last "active" man standing as far as animated avatars go. Haven't seen another animated avatar in a long while. I would sell my avatar space btw, but it wouldn't come cheap.

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I think I might be the last "active" man standing as far as animated avatars go. Haven't seen another animated avatar in a long while. I would sell my avatar space btw, but it wouldn't come cheap.

Nah!!! You forgot about ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84866).

I have caught Stewie several times moving his eyes, so that should count as an animated avatar. ;D
Nice catch. Anyone else out there that I'm forgetting?


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Cantsay on May 25, 2023, 04:00:51 PM
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I think I might be the last "active" man standing as far as animated avatars go. Haven't seen another animated avatar in a long while. I would sell my avatar space btw, but it wouldn't come cheap.

Nah!!! You forgot about ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84866).

I have caught Stewie several times moving his eyes, so that should count as an animated avatar. ;D


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: JeromeTash on May 29, 2023, 09:41:22 PM
I think I might be the last "active" man standing as far as animated avatars go. Haven't seen another animated avatar in a long while. I would sell my avatar space btw, but it wouldn't come cheap.

Nah!!! You forgot about ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84866).

I have caught Stewie several times moving his eyes, so that should count as an animated avatar. ;D
I think I have seen a couple of more members with animated avatars, though they don't post in this common boards. Like Metroid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=89605) who posted mostly in the altcoin boards. He hasn't posted for a while, but he still logs in.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: robelneo on May 29, 2023, 10:46:08 PM
Is it possible?

Edit:

You can make it a little longer and tell us why you want to know that.

Hero-Legendary rank member signatures tend to be same as far as most as most sign campaigns go. If animated signatures were to be possible, it should be available for legendary members to make the distinction between the two ranks. I'm interested in creativity signature creators will bring in as well.

Animated avatars are not applicable anymore very few members have them, Yahoo is one that has the distinction to wear one, and it's annoying for forum members and posters to see animated avatars in a discussion platform, I used to be on a forum where there animated signature is being displayed and I cannot concentrate reading the long post because of these animated avatars.

The forum was created mainly for discussion, not for advertising purposes


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: virasog on May 29, 2023, 11:11:56 PM
The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".


There was a time when bitcointalk had the option to display the animated signatures but thanks to theymos who abandon that feature.
It was so annoying seeing those animations while reading the text.


Moreover, one might ask what the real added value of animated signatures would be? I'm not sure if it's necessary to overload the forum pages with useless info/designs, as the hero/legendary distinction is already made through the forum users's profiles and is clearly visible in every message posted.

Maybe from the company's point of view, animated signatures may add value and may look prominent but from the forum point of view, it is not a good idea. You may still see a few members wearing the old animated signatures.  Also, the admin has disabled the signatures which I think is in the best interest of the forum.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: acroman08 on May 29, 2023, 11:38:54 PM
Nah!!! You forgot about ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84866).

I have caught Stewie several times moving his eyes, so that should count as an animated avatar. ;D
Nice catch. Anyone else out there that I'm forgetting?
jayce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=335088) also has an animated avatar but its hard to notice(or at least for me) if you are not directly looking at his avatar. anyway, yours is the only one that is a very noticeable animated avatar.

The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".


There was a time when bitcointalk had the option to display the animated signatures but thanks to theymos who abandon that feature.
It was so annoying seeing those animations while reading the text.
did they ever allow that? As far as I know, avatars and ad banners were the only ones that used to have animated features.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: jayce on May 30, 2023, 02:38:38 AM
Nah!!! You forgot about ibminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=84866).

I have caught Stewie several times moving his eyes, so that should count as an animated avatar. ;D
Nice catch. Anyone else out there that I'm forgetting?
jayce (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=335088) also has an animated avatar but its hard to notice(or at least for me) if you are not directly looking at his avatar. anyway, yours is the only one that is a very noticeable animated avatar.

You have an eagle eye! Yeah I made it a bit less animated as some users complained about some annoying avatars. I created the yahoo's avatar as well and I'm amazed that he is still using it. It ain't cheap indeed to ask him replace the avatar lol.


The day Bitcointalk allows animated signatures, is the day I'm going to enable "Don't show users' signatures".


There was a time when bitcointalk had the option to display the animated signatures but thanks to theymos who abandon that feature.
It was so annoying seeing those animations while reading the text.
did they ever allow that? As far as I know, avatars and ad banners were the only ones that used to have animated features.

Perhaps what he means is ad banners.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: LoyceV on May 30, 2023, 06:30:26 AM
There was a time when bitcointalk had the option to display the animated signatures
I've never seen animated signatures.

Animated avatars were also disabled, except for the guys who had them before the new resolution was put in place. I think Yahoo, Ibminer, Vod and some other few members still have animated avatars
Those aren't annoying at all, and it's really too bad that's not possible anymore. The heavily animated advertising had to spoil it for the rest.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Bushdark on May 30, 2023, 10:58:48 AM
I think every rank has some limited numbers of codes it can contain for signature usage. Using animated signature could be very interesting which I have seen before but can be misleading and I don't know if the forum would have a choice for that in the future now that we are in the era of artificial intelligence. Using animated signature would be nice if allowed in the forum and could take large numbers of codes to be designed. This could be possible with people above senior member rank because they have higher number of codes there signature space can contain.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: bettercrypto on May 31, 2023, 07:26:43 AM
So far, it seems that I can only see in the avatar that someone is using animated here, and one of them who is active is @yahoo62278 and apart from him, I don't notice any other members here in the forum wearing that.

        But with the signature banner code, I don't seem to notice that anyone has done it here in the forum, has anyone? but if there is,
for sure the fees for this will increase of course.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: tjtonmoy on May 31, 2023, 10:16:54 PM
Animated signatures will be like unskippable ad. It's gonna be so much annoying. Have you ever visited some website with lots of banner ads? You can only see some content around those ads, and most of the webpage is filled with them. I don't wanna be a part of that. Instead of making it animated, why not just select some dedicated colors only available for legendary members? Red, green, blue.....something like that. And signature should be made using those colors only dedicated to legendary members. Design could be the same, but color code could make them unique. Just a thought tho!


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on June 01, 2023, 12:04:47 AM
Nice catch. Anyone else out there that I'm forgetting?

Maybe lightlord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541)? But, he is not active since September 2022. I guess there are a few more, including Jayce and Ibminer. I will update you if I can remember any of them. I know Theymos disabled animated images for avatars. But what was the reason behind that? Just because people find it annoying, or maybe there were some other issues too?

Have you ever visited a website with lots of banner ads? You can only see some content around those ads, and most of the webpage is filled with them.
Like some URL shorter websites? Or movie hosting websites? Yeah, Sometimes I download movies and other software, and sometimes I don't know which one is the actual download button because of the ads.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: LoyceV on June 01, 2023, 06:49:26 AM
Have you ever visited some website with lots of banner ads?
Not in recent years, use Adblock :) I used to not mind the advertising, until more and more websites went overboard and became unbearable.
Also great in Firefox: about:config > image.animation_mode > once.

I know Theymos disabled animated images for avatars. But, what was the reason behind that? Just because people find it annoying or maybe there were some other issues as well?
Some advertising went crazy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114171.0) with blinking avatars.

Animated avatars aren't supposed to be allowed, but I never got around to adding detection for the APNG ones. I'll look into it.
OK, APNGs are now detected. Old ones are grandfathered for now


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on June 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PM
Not in recent years, use Adblock :) I used to not mind the advertising, until more and more websites went overboard and became unbearable.
Also great in Firefox: about:config > image.animation_mode > once.
This is enough not to be annoyed any more. But it seems like theymos agreed with everyone and took a step. Sometimes I get frustrated when I see people reporting helpful something or asking for something useful, and forum admins/moderators show the thickness of their skin. They did not respond to many threads like that one. But, It feels good to see that theymos responded within 11 hours and fixed it.

Nice catch. Anyone else out there that I'm forgetting?

kryptqnick (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559842)
jeremypwr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137185)

Both of them have been wearing Sportsbet.io Old Avatar for ages now. Maybe we will find more active members if we search for them. I just found them from the Sportsbet thread.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Hispo on June 01, 2023, 04:39:04 PM
I think, I would be in favor of including animated avatars again, but if there was some rules or limitations to the length and the quantity of frames allowed for us to use.

Since most people around here seem not to like the idea of animated signatures, then I must say it does not sound like a good feature to implement, we are not supposed to annoy anyone to the point they would start to unwatch or filter the signatures.

They are good as they are, not too intrusive and yet some can be quite attractive to the eye.  :)


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Cookdata on June 01, 2023, 05:51:31 PM
Is it possible?

Edit:

You can make it a little longer and tell us why you want to know that.

Hero-Legendary rank member signatures tend to be same as far as most as most sign campaigns go. If animated signatures were to be possible, it should be available for legendary members to make the distinction between the two ranks. I'm interested in creativity signature creators will bring in as well.

I believe animated ads have a bright future, but the forum should take into account the eyesight of many, as some people are bothered by animated images unless they are wearing eyeglasses, and some people work on their laptops for extended periods of time without wearing eyeglasses. Another issue I see with these animated signatures is that each manager will want to customize the opacity, contrast, and brightness the way they see fit,  and it can become a challenge for other signatures when there is a company that has more exposure than their own except if the forum is ready to lay down a rule for the general design of animated signature for the forum.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: aioc on June 02, 2023, 12:27:51 PM
I think, I would be in favor of including animated avatars again, but if there was some rules or limitations to the length and the quantity of frames allowed for us to use.

Since most people around here seem not to like the idea of animated signatures, then I must say it does not sound like a good feature to implement, we are not supposed to annoy anyone to the point they would start to unwatch or filter the signatures.

They are good as they are, not too intrusive and yet some can be quite attractive to the eye.  :)

I will have a hard time reading a topic or a post created by a member wearing an animated avatar, the animated avatar and signature were taken down so members can concentrate on what matters the most and that is concentrating on the topic to give a good response, with animated avatar and signatures it will distract me from understanding the post, especially if the posts happen to be created by someone who is struggling in his English or to get the message across.

I'm ok with the present set up of this forum, animated signatures and avatars are good for advertising-based platforms and not for discussion platforms.


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: Aikidoka on June 02, 2023, 01:02:39 PM
I will have a hard time reading a topic or a post created by a member wearing an animated avatar, the animated avatar and signature were taken down so members can concentrate on what matters the most and that is concentrating on the topic to give a good response, with animated avatar and signatures it will distract me from understanding the post, especially if the posts happen to be created by someone who is struggling in his English or to get the message across.

I'm ok with the present set up of this forum, animated signatures and avatars are good for advertising-based platforms and not for discussion platforms.
To be honest, I disagree with your point here as I don't find animated avatars to be distracting when reading a user's post that have it on. I could read hundreds of user's posts with animated avatars without being distracted; I just find it cool so far. If the feature is still available, I would like to try it.

I'm against any type of animated signature, but I'm okay with an animated avatar. I suggest that if theymos were to add this feature again, it would be better if he'll make it a paid service instead of offering it for free to everyone, or perhaps only allow it for high-ranking members. :)


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: BobK71 on June 02, 2023, 03:43:19 PM
I do not think you can create animated signature but you can create animated avatar. Animated avatars are annoying and the more you see more people using it the more annoying the avatars become. Animated signature will be worst.
At one time animated avatars supported forum accounts.  And those who put up animated avatars back then still have them on their profiles. And it supports. But the new animated avatar can no longer be added to the profile. Because now it is closed so no user can use animated signature or avatar in his profile even if he tries hard. they are not yet possible it now


Title: Re: Can you create animated signatures here?
Post by: UserU on June 04, 2023, 01:08:32 PM
I suggest that if theymos were to add this feature again, it would be better if he'll make it a paid service instead of offering it for free to everyone, or perhaps only allow it for high-ranking members. :)

There's the Copper Membership. Throw that in and I'll likely get it :p