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Title: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Why you bully me on June 02, 2023, 10:53:30 AM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?

 :D


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Potato Chips on June 02, 2023, 12:00:26 PM
Their reputation and if the platform fits my use-case.

Another thing is how true are their claims... For instance, a lot of these so called "DEXes" aren't actually decentralized as they implement KYC, block countries, rely on centralized servers, etc. Right now, only BISQ is actually decentralized.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Coyster on June 02, 2023, 12:32:11 PM
This site: https://kycnot.me/ helps you to select decentralized exchanges, you can read about the service you want to use and their features. If you are looking for a decentralized exchange, it is because you want one that would never request KYC from you, and you'll always trade without submitting any personal data to them.

Bisq is fully decentralized, in the 'about' section of the site above, they have different KYC levels: https://kycnot.me/about, Bisq is a 10/10 because it is at KYC level: 0, meaning the exchange makes it clear that they would never ask for KYC: https://kycnot.me/exchange/bisq, thus it is the best option for p2p trading.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: IIrik11 on June 02, 2023, 04:08:58 PM
everything good is either dead or dying.

someone already suggested kycnot.me..

so check that out and use the one that's most suited for ur needs.

also, look out for p2p cockroaches who ask for ids before trade.

another bad side of dex, u'll find 8-10% price markup.  :(


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: bitmover on June 02, 2023, 04:14:56 PM
Their reputation and if the platform fits my use-case.

Another thing is how true are their claims... For instance, a lot of these so called "DEXes" aren't actually decentralized as they implement KYC, block countries, rely on centralized servers, etc. Right now, only BISQ is actually decentralized.

Bisq is the only one in the bitcoin network.

However you can find some other to use eth or other blockchains. Uniswap , pancakeswap etc are other good options. They srte good for privacy if you have shitcoins and want to convert into stable coins with privacy.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: ImThour on June 02, 2023, 04:27:07 PM
I would go for no deposit and withdrawal limits, no KYC required, and a lesser fee.
If they are willing to provide all these things, go ahead. If not, they aren't a complete DEX anytime soon.

Also, if they can add P2P that will be so good. Cherry on top.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Z390 on June 02, 2023, 04:28:16 PM
I don't k ow about others but I use DoDoEX and GNS.Trade, they also have swaps like uniswap and 1inch but cheaper feel and faster transaction straight from your wallet is why I like Dex, I know they have other disadvantages but where Dex triumph over centralized exchange is they are a lot safer, there is no way you will leave your asset in anybody's care.

I will advice that you should stick with trusted Dex, there is a way you can lose your assets connecting your wallets to any Dex you find online, some are scam so they will ask for extra permission when you want to connect to them, read very well before you approve any permission.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on June 02, 2023, 04:54:07 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?

 :D
For me the low fees. Even its on eth network or other L1 or L2 as long as its fees arent that high and the dex is smooth then its good for me. Plus they supported a lot of tokens that are crosschain with other L1 since that could be very useful to me as I love to do some liquidity protocol on some dex. Bonus if they have a bridge cross chain function.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Yamane_Keto on June 02, 2023, 05:32:02 PM
True DEX mean that the code is open source, you download the exchange file, and have option to connect to other nodes via Tor other than this the word decentralization is really questionable.
It is true that there may be platforms that do not require KYC or are distributed, but they are centralized.

This site: https://kycnot.me/ helps you to select decentralized exchanges, you can read about the service you want to use and their features. If you are looking for a decentralized exchange, it is because you want one that would never request KYC from you, and you'll always trade without submitting any personal data to them.

You can rely on this site as a search tool, but do not trust the platforms listed on it. I think they were putting BetterCallRaul.it among the recommendations, which we discovered in the end that they are a scam, although it is clear that those who run the platform are not that professional.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5453875.0


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: _act_ on June 02, 2023, 06:07:14 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?
Check if the decentralized exchange have terms of service. If they have, you need to read it. From reading it, you will be able to know how truly decentralized exchange they are.

But if I will advice you, you can go for decentralized exchanges like Bisq. Other decentralized exchanges are not decentralized entirely but somehow centralized.

If you want some other decentralized exchanges, read the link that Coyster gave above: https://kycnot.me/

But the link is more about no KYC exchanges. The highest ranked ones are decentralized, especially Bisq which is the best among decentralized exchanges.

In a decentralized exchange, you should try and know the coins they support and the fiat they also support.

You should try and know about their trading volume also.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: dkbit98 on June 02, 2023, 06:39:01 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?
Remember this... most exchanges that have DEX label are not really decentralized, and most of them are based on centralized shitcoin blockchains.

We don't have many real DEX options but Bisq exchange should be mentioned first, you need to download open source software and run it in your computer.
BlockDX is also decentrlaized but last time I checked it didn't have much trading volume, and I don't think it gain any popularity so far.
Few other P2P alternatives can work as alternative if you are using mobile devices, like Peach Bitcoin, RoboSats or AtomicDEX wallet.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on June 02, 2023, 07:44:39 PM
Run the following:

Code:
if exchange == BISQ: return "DEX"
else: return "CEX"

Simply, programmatically funnily, like that.  :P



Jokes asides, Bisq is truly decentralized. If you don't want to trust your coins in any KYC-free promising CEX, then that's your best course (if not the only).


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Upgrade00 on June 02, 2023, 07:50:42 PM
It sounds cliche but you look for decentralization in a DEX. They should have about three levels of decentralization;
• Decentralized servers,
• Open source codes,
• Non custodian wallets.
These are the key factors that make an exchange a DEX and ensures they are not interfering with the transaction or the user privacy in any way.

After this you consider their mode of operation (how they mediate between transactions), ease of access or use, customer response, terms of service, liquidity etc.

[https://kycnot.me/
You can rely on this site as a search tool, but do not trust the platforms listed on it. I think they were putting BetterCallRaul.it among the recommendations, which we discovered in the end that they are a scam, although it is clear that those who run the platform are not that professional.
That's exactly what the tool is for. It just gives ratings on different decentralized exchanges and either rates them high, fair or low with reasons for it. It's also a fluid rating which changes with more research.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Lida93 on June 02, 2023, 09:15:35 PM
Other members have enlisted almost everything that's needed or expected for an exchange to be referred to as a DEX or not. But I just want to throw some light in the part where some of these exchanges claim to be Dex but deep down they have Cex pattern of services and features and the user's only get to know much about this when they have already created an account with a deposit in place already.  The foremost reason why people uses dex is due to privacy and when an interference occurs one a user privacy then I wonder if such exchange actually understand the meaning of a Dex.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Outhue on June 03, 2023, 10:08:11 AM
Do you know the popular words that says 'Not Your Keys Not Your Coins' ? This is where decentralized exchanges wins over others, there is no sending your Bitcoin from your wallet into another entity's Bitcoin wallet all because you want to switch the coin to USD stable coins or into your local fiat currency. This is a big win for Dex.

We still need to be picky though, as some DEX are not reliable too, make sure you understand the modes of operation of the DEX you decide to use, I have few in mind that are better than others, some DEX are not completely decentralized, for example, the popular dYdX, this DEX is not true Dex in my opinion.  I prefer the following, Traderjoe, Perpetual protocol, pulseX, Apex, Syncswap.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Solosanz on June 03, 2023, 12:49:36 PM
I think you must explain what's the reason you're want to use DEX?

If you're really want to protect your privacy, your option is only Bisq.

But if you're just want to looking an exchange where you don't have to submit KYC, you can use Agoradesk or Robosats. Those P2P sites are still reputable and you don't need to worry as long as you use it to trade your coins.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Antotena on June 04, 2023, 10:00:10 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?

 :D

Look at their reserves, amount locked on chain and check if the coins on their dex are liquid enough to make use their protocol without any compromise issues. Don't connect your real wallet until you are very satisfied, you can use a wallet that has little or nothing to check the protocols before using your main wallet to connect.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: christianVV on June 12, 2023, 06:44:03 PM
Liquidity is essential for a DEX to ensure smooth trading and competitive pricing. A higher level of liquidity allows for better trade execution and reduces the risk of slippage. Look for DEX platforms that have a wide range of trading pairs and active trading volume.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Onset on June 12, 2023, 11:47:44 PM
Are you looking for fiat to BTC and backwards? Are you looking for BTC to alts and backwards?
Do you need quick trades? Do you typically exchange smaller or larger sums?

To me, volume is sometimes the deal maker or deal braker. I love Bisq but it’s sometimes slow as hell so I have to choose alternatives. A DEX will continue to be a DEX and will likely still be safe (unless you’re going for a never-maintained, unknown project). The question is which one has the features YOU need?


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 13, 2023, 01:56:59 AM
Liquidity & reputation.

These 2 are inter-connected with each other I guess because a DEX that isn't reputable enough will not have high liquidity towards the assets that are being stored in it, and vice versa. A reputable DEX like Uniswap when it was still a popular DEX had lots of volume in every asset that's being supported by the exchange. Correct me, but DEX don't ask for KYC right? I'm not using it TBH that's why I'm not aware that much. A DEX with high reputation has high liquidity on it's assets. You don't want to put your money into a DEX where there has little to no volume in it right? At the same time, you don't want to put your hard-earned money into a DEX that has little to no users as well. A reputable exchange = more trustworthy than a new DEX.

Well, there are some factors that might affect a person's decision in looking for a good DEX but overall, I think these 2 are the most important factors.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: sunsilk on June 13, 2023, 02:49:15 AM
Volume/liquidity, mostly that's what I am looking for and next is if they're known and what kind of reputation they've got.

Honestly, before I was too optimistic with DEXes not until I started to see the lack of security of many of them and they've always been targeted by hackers and only a few of them manages to respond from those attacks until many of them closed.

And that optimism that I've got for DEX have already lost when most people are going and adding volume not on them but for the centralized exchanges.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: libert19 on June 13, 2023, 05:52:57 AM
I'm not techy, I usually only look for reputation, if it's been a while since it's been in market, it should be trustable.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Davidvictorson on June 13, 2023, 09:08:14 AM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?

 :D
I have never had any issues with the DEX. Not once have I been worried about hacks, transaction fees, or government regulation while using DEX. As a beginner, you should pay attention to analyzing the reputation of the decentralized exchange, as well as the number of buyers and sellers on the platform because it is crucial to its liquidity. This other point may not sound too important, but an intuitive interface of a DEX will make your life easier as you will not be worked up due to navigation on the platform.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Woodie on June 13, 2023, 09:52:32 AM
I think with increased crypto activity in today's digital age one component that is a good indicator of deciding on whether to use a service or not, is finding reviews of what others say about the service..of course this isn't foolproof as review's can easily be bought but if not too much work you could as the community here to find its legitimacy.

Secondly lookout for activity and liquidity  ,if from a quick look things look slow moving and orderbook seems dead just don't bother using such an exchange ,save your time and money and take your business elsewhere .

Lastly I look for competitive pricing to what a CEX has and what market prices are being anticipated then you know which DEX to use.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: YUriy1991 on June 13, 2023, 03:01:22 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?

 :D

Simple but meaningful question.. :D,  Important Evaluating a decentralized exchange (DEX), Well, there are several factors to consider to determine if it is a good choice for example Security and this should be your priority for any DEX. Look for platforms that use strong security measures such as smart contract audits, bug bounty programs, and strong encryption protocols and low trade taker fees including gas fees on the underlying blockchain network and others in addition to other staples like Liquidity factor , User Interface (UI) and User Experience (UX) and the range of assets available for trading on DEX.

If there are pluses there must be minuses as well. For example for now there are still Regulatory Concerns where DEXs are operating in a relatively unregulated environment, which may raise concerns about the potential risks of the solution yes Users can choose a centralized exchange which complies with regulatory standards and offers added protection the last is Slower Transaction Speed. My reason is that DEXs rely on the blockchain network for transaction processing, which can sometimes result in slower transaction speeds and higher network fees during periods of peak activity and This can be a disadvantage for traders who need instant execution or want to take advantage of short-term market movements.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: kamvreto on June 13, 2023, 06:30:08 PM
I think with increased crypto activity in today's digital age one component that is a good indicator of deciding on whether to use a service or not, is finding reviews of what others say about the service..of course this isn't foolproof as review's can easily be bought but if not too much work you could as the community here to find its legitimacy.

Secondly lookout for activity and liquidity  ,if from a quick look things look slow moving and orderbook seems dead just don't bother using such an exchange ,save your time and money and take your business elsewhere .

Lastly I look for competitive pricing to what a CEX has and what market prices are being anticipated then you know which DEX to use.

This is one that I often do when I want to trade on a new DEX or CEX platform. It's always about available Liquidation, if Liquidation is low enough and the orderbook looks slow or even not moving, then few will be interested in the DEX. The orders that appear are also filled with Bots and that's to keep up with selling and buying activity, but still it's just a biot and it doesn't look like real users are doing it. Dex recommendations are also reviewed by several senior users and even have good ratings as Dex that can be used safely.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: Jon_Hodl on June 13, 2023, 07:16:08 PM
Another thing is how true are their claims... For instance, a lot of these so called "DEXes" aren't actually decentralized as they implement KYC, block countries, rely on centralized servers, etc. Right now, only BISQ is actually decentralized.

What are your thoughts on RoboSats? They seem pretty decentralized with a good maker bond system in place. I like that it runs directly in Tor but anyone can run their own instance on Umbrel and/or Citadel to become a part of the infrastructure.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: rby on June 13, 2023, 09:06:45 PM
What I look at in DEX is something that isn't easy to detect and moat times I end up speculating about it since I do not always get my results accurate.

I look at the level of Decentralization

While many of the DEX will claim they are decentralized, but their level of decentralization is very low. How they handle and store data is very important to me. Many of the DEX actually send data to centralized server. Some run on plugins that we cannot for.
Apart from the above, reputation is important also to me.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 14, 2023, 09:13:27 PM
What you should look for in DEX before using it is the DEX transparency in operations, supported cryptocurrency, liquidity, security, decentralization level, volume, and a friendly and easy-to-navigate user interface.
Nevertheless, If you're looking for privacy and no-KYC exchange for Bitcoin trading or Monero I will advise you to check Crypton Exchange.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: dansus021 on June 17, 2023, 03:48:48 PM
Simple version
  • just go to coingecko or coinmarketcap and see what is the number one dex on the list and just use it https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/dex/ https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/dex/
  • choose the best chain I usually choose ETH BNB Chain and Polygon because there is dozen project on those chain
  • Liquidity

Tho some of chain don't have enough liquidity you can use Dex aggregator like 1nch or Dodoex


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: KingsDen on June 20, 2023, 02:06:40 PM
What you should look for in DEX before using it is the DEX transparency in operations, supported cryptocurrency, liquidity, security, decentralization level, volume, and a friendly and easy-to-navigate user interface.
Nevertheless, If you're looking for privacy and no-KYC exchange for Bitcoin trading or Monero I will advise you to check Crypton Exchange.

Transparency in operation is something that is supposed to be eminent in every decentralized exchange. The word decentralization means that there is no central authority controlling the operation of the exchange. This means the running of the exchange depends on the activity and the contribution of the exchange users and developers who developed interest in such decentralized exchange.

Now if the exchange is decentralized and open-source, it means that it automatically has a very high transparency of operation. No hidden agenda.
But any decentralized exchange in which you do not know how they operate, simply tells that they are not totally decentralized and should be avoided.


Title: Re: What should you look for in a DEX?
Post by: honglu69 on July 29, 2023, 03:09:20 PM
I want to look into dexes and I was wondering what is it that you would personally look for in a dex to see if it is good?
Remember this... most exchanges that have DEX label are not really decentralized, and most of them are based on centralized shitcoin blockchains.

We don't have many real DEX options but Bisq exchange should be mentioned first, you need to download open source software and run it in your computer.
BlockDX is also decentrlaized but last time I checked it didn't have much trading volume, and I don't think it gain any popularity so far.
Few other P2P alternatives can work as alternative if you are using mobile devices, like Peach Bitcoin, RoboSats or AtomicDEX wallet.

I have used all three: Bisq,  BlockDX,  AtomicDEX.

Liquidity, user friendliness and easy to use is important.   trading fees are important too. 

Out of three, currently only working one is AtomicDEX.  AtomicDEX for small DEX traders are fine, the fees are small,  spread is wider than CEX, but definately a niche and very good to use to own your own private keys for most of UTXO coins and also BNB and ETH cross chain trading.

Bisq never worked for me, the deal breaker was high fees and poor liquidity even on DOGE/BTC pair.  Bisq seems to be huge on Monero pair so that it is mainly a private coin dex there.

BlockDX has been dissappointing so far.  It appeared to be great with bitcoin coin clone technology core  plus masternode POS design.  Somehow the light wallet Xlite was never materialized after many years.  BlockDX would be great competitor to AtomicDEX if it delivered what it promised years ago.  For me BlockDX high level DEX design seems to be very decentralized if their service nodes count goes up to big number.