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Original account: DiMarxist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525774)
Posts: 393
Activity: 182
Merit Earned in last 30/120 days: 40/147
 
Total Merits Earned: 177

Position:   Full Member

Date Registered:   December 28, 2022, 06:24:56 AM

Dear Moderators/Theymos,


On the May 31, 2023, 08:52:26 PM, I received a message in my email from the forum and I login to the forum to see the message, as I login, at first I didn't notice the ban message, but after reading the deleted message then I clicked back the home page then I saw the ban message, on top of the page.
It was a big shock that got me wondering what crime have I committed. So I was trying to figure out but no way and I went to  https://ninjastic.space/user/id/3525774 to see the deleted post when I went there, I saw the comment and I clicked on the link and it took me to the thread, and I checked other people comments and compare to my comment till I saw  that I copied SamReomo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454188.0) probably in the process of making my comment. My intention were to edit and clip the post in a quote but, I can't tell what really transpired and it came out as a copied text, probably because I was feeling dizzy at the time as I was on my bed while on the forum.

Due to the ban, I have been scanning the Ninjastic.space to see if I have done such mistake before but I could not find any, though I am not an expert in that search but, just have to try due to this recent development and to better understand what happened. As it is, I am even confused of what really happened because I have tried my best in all conscious effort to keep to the rules and this instance is the very first time I happen to have unconciously violated and most of all, a fellow forum users post. Just how dumb would I be to have done that here if not by some big error. I haven't done such thing before and now, I feel bad to have been sleepy but yet access the forum. I also tried  checking on the plagiarism thread to see any proceedings that followed my case but, couldn't find any.

I am not claiming to be right in this but rather, a slip of the hand, and unconscious mistake that has taken a big punch at me but I'm appealing right now, I'm so sorry this happened in my weak moment. I believe I'm not a spammer and I was trying my best to give the best quality I can bring. I believed I have not violated the forum rules before, I always maintain my posts quality in the forum. A mistake is a mistake I am guilty. Please forgive me and look into my issue as some big error.

To the Moderators/Theymos and others please have mercy and unban  DiMarxist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525774) account for me. I am a student.

Many members were not banned with some reported plagiarism posts and I doubt that you were banned by only one plagiarism post.

Report plagiarsim (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg62170873#msg62170873) does not have any report against you.

Good luck.

Let's compare your post and SamReomo's post.

Your post


If you're just want to quote SamReomo's post, you wouldn't add few words or spin his words in the first place! I looked on ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/post/62310633) he doesn't have edited his post, so it's clear you're trying to copy his post and add few words in order to make your post looks different.

You're lying, you're deserved to get permanent banned by the moderators.

for those who are curious about what posts OP is talking about, here it is.

1 SamReomo

2 by DiMarxist

got curious and looked at the posts in question, so @OP you are saying that the highlighted part was supposed to be your replies to SamReomo post? the highlighted part does look like a reply(or at least the second highlighted part).

I just checked the first post from your post history.



How do you explain that? Should we go check out your posts further?

A very convenient position to say that I did not copy anything. Yes, you did not copy; you paraphrased and did not even read what came out after the paraphrase.
Besides the fact that this post can be considered AI-composed, as you can see, there are several more examples of how you wanted to outsmart the forum.
I feel sorry for you.

looks like this is a habit for the OP, here I thought it was probably just a mistake, but now I feel dumb for giving him the benefit of the doubt. it's good you found another post the OP plagiarized.

It's acceptable to be a lax poster, but it's dreadful to steal a few lines, compile them into a post, and then repost them on the same thread in an attempt to persuade sig manager and earn from it. OP You are facing a pretty strong case.. GL

We all make mistakes but when it becomes habit its unacceptable.

My first reaction after seeing your post is that perma ban for a single plagiarised post is a little bit too strict for my taste (even though he was lying about how it happened) and I would rather see him getting longer signature ban so if he continues being active and prove to a usefeul member of the forum, then to lift it off.

But as always when people start digging in these cases, seems like that's OPs M.O so perma ban is imho well deserved. I have no doubt that he will create another account and continue with business as usual because for him bitcointalk is nothing but a milking cow.

Perhaps we can assume that the OP has a few more alt accounts considering that he used paraphrasing and plagiarizing methods, and such members can very easily maintain alt farms in this way. New accounts are not easy to rank, although in the specific case it was not an obstacle considering the number of merits that the OP collected.

A little more caution and additional checks before hitting the merit button would not be out of place.

After reading the OP, it is clear that he is lying. The proof is already on this thread and it is clear that plagiarism was done. The way inwhich it was done is hilarious. The arrogance and confidence shown in the topic does hint at multiple alt accounts. I don't feel any remorse, but confidence that the user was in the wrong. What I feel bad about is that the user was a part of the Sherbet old signature campaign and was able to deceive the campaign manager and campaign owner. I would request the moderators to keep the ban in place.

When I read the appeal I felt sorry for you because anybody can make the same mistake. Sometimes I might want to quote a post and maybe fail to include the quote code and I will have to edit it immediately. But a close look at your case shows that it is not a slip of the hand but a conscious act. And your case is different because you engaged in what I will call "lazy plagiarism". I call it lazy copy and paste because you were mutilating people's posts from the forum (the same thread) instead of at least putting a little effort of lifting from other sources from the internet.

It is now clear that you broke the forum's rules more than one time, so you can only plead for mercy. Building an account to a member rank is not an easy task, so I just hope you will be given a second chance to prove that you have accepted your mistake and decided never to repeat this prohibited act. Nothing is impossible, you might be lucky. All the best mate.

I am of the opinion that paraphrasing will be more difficult to a smart person than making a new post. Even if you don't have full knowledge of what the post is saying, you can take a clue from that same post and make yours, without plagiarising or paraphrasing. It is not the best practice, but should be better.
Let me try and make same Dybala post, taking clue from the original. My own post is in italics.



Dybala has proven how special he is as a player.  His impact was well felt in the match, even if he missed the majority of the season's matches due to injury, he was still intrumental to his team because he doesn't appear less fit to other players

In the above instance, I didn't generate any idea of my own and I didn't also plagiarise neither did I paraphrase.

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Op, your chances here are slim as more evidences of plagiarism are coming up.

Those two statements kind of don't jibe.  This guy (like many other forum plagiarists) is here to make money, plain and simple.  If you give him any kind of temporary signature ban, there's little chance he's just going to wait it out or to somehow improve his writing ability.  The main reason these idiots copy/paste other members' content is precisely because they lack writing skills--or they have nothing to say about a given topic but need to make a post anyway.

I'd only support signature bans if they were permanent, but since it's too easy to create new accounts I don't think it makes much of a difference unless the account is of a fairly high rank.  In OP's case a permanent signature ban would likely cause him to abandon his account, and he might have a hard time ranking back up to Full member.  Anyway, given that he's lying here in addition to his original offenses he ought to be permabanned.  IMO now isn't the time to lessen the consequences for stealing other people's words.

Of course they don't since you omitted first part of the sentence where I thought that was his only case of plagiarism in which case I wouldn't personally give anyone permanent but instead signature ban but then it was discovered that it wasn't the only case and he was doing it on the regular basis whihc changes things dramatically and was probably the reason why he was perma banned.

I believe that forum lost some good members by being too strict in the past and perma banning members for a single copied sentence but no one cared since number of active users was on the rise. Now situation changed and they realised that wasn't the smart decision so forum staff become more lenient in that regard.

So he actually knew what he was doing and even pointed out the post that he was sure could have led to his ban. What is worse is trying to lie that it was a one-off mistake. This is clearly not a mistake and there could be more posts he copied and paraphrased

Perhaps a lesson learned for OP, though a little too late now, since it's a permanent ban.

He taught me about plagiarism when I did not plagiarise and saw what he did.

He will continue to say I don't know that forum has rule for plagiarism but in January he knew it.

Even when dizzy, you must earn those signature payments, right?

I don't. OP was on my Ignore list for shitposting already. He won't be missed. His entire post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525774;sa=showPosts) matches this:

To follow this with a lesson:

When I initially read the OP post, I felt sorry for him but now that I realize exactly what he did in that post, and the same pattern is being repeated in this example, shows that OP was trying to cheat the system but eventually got caught. Such people deserve this punishment. I now wonder if he has some alts too  ???


Why not, someday a person will come up and say I was in a coma (Near death prolonged unconsciousness), but still busy completing the Signature quota

Heh?  I'm saying that arguing for any kind of signature ban, even if it's temporary (and I doubt it'd be that short) would drive the member to create a new account to start earning money with--and you acknowledged that the latter half of that statement is true.  So why dole out any signature ban? 

Anyway, please forgive me if there's a misunderstanding--it's quite possible, as I was up >24 hours when I wrote that post and have yet to go to sleep.  My mind is foggy and everything is running on autopilot.  It's amazing that I can even type out legible sentences.

By the way, I haven't been looking at too many ban appeal threads lately and don't have a sense of what the mods are doing in the way of punishment for plagiarism.  Are they actually handing out signature bans?  Has anyone received one?

What I wanted to say is that imho signature ban makes sense if offender did one time mistake (which I believe can happen out of ignorance or some other reason), but if plagiarising posts is something that he does on the regular basis (like it was case here) then there's no point of giving him signature ban because we are not talking about genuine member here who did one time mistake but instead about someone who is only interested in making money out of forum.

Anyway, I hope I explained myself better.


Because there were cases (not gonna name them here but I think people know who I am talking about) in the past where legit members did some stupid mistake while they were new members (their plagiarism was discovered years later) and instead of giving them perma ban, they got signature ban, continued being active during duration of signature ban showing that they are legit members who are not here solely for signature payout and are now one of the more respected members and scambusters around.
 

Tbh, I haven't noticed anyone getting signature ban in the last couple of years.

I feel for OP, because he was here wasting all his time in the forum instead of studying and creating his own post. He thought,all this while that he haven't been caught as smartness, forgetting that someday he will be caught and brought to justice.

I feel surprise to see someone with such amount merits and rank,still lazy of creating post on their own after they already know the implications of plagiarism and they have also started benefiting from signature campaigns. This shows that OP is a careless person and not serious with his life. So many plagiarism is not a mistake but a habit. OP needs to face the consequences of his action so that next time he will do as expected.

If he was plagiarizing my reply only than I would forgive him for the act because I understand that few people aren't good at writing and that's why they try to rewrite someone else's words in a way that others might find their posts or replies unique. But, if such users are enrolled in signature campaigns and are earning money from those campaigns then I think the best way to stop those users from doing such thing is to ban them from signature campaigns for at least a month as a penalty for the act like The Sceptical Chymist suggested.

I'm not against OP and whatever he did to my reply wasn't a good act. However, I personally have already forgiven him for doing that act, and I just want to tell him to stop doing such things and not to take advantage of the campaign managers who trust you by giving you a chance to earn some money legitimately  by creating good posts and informative replies. It's like playing with their trust and that's not a good act at all.

At first I thought that the OP has mistakenly copied my post and I thought he deserves a chance because sometimes we all feel states of dizziness due to less sleep and hard work. But, after I found that the user did that with others then I thought that how could someone do that. I mean it's really beyond my understanding that how someone could do that to a honest campaign manager who's allowing the user to earn from his/her hard work. That's not at all acceptable to me, I believe that those who give you the opportunity to earn an income legitimately are the ones who are worthy of respect and sincerity. Betraying such people is a worst kind of crime and it's not at all accepted.

The highlighted parts are simply other stolen words from two other posts in that same topic.  Not a single part of their "reply" contains a unique thought of their own.  That can't possibly be an accident.  To claim that it was just means they're a liar as much as they are a plagiarist:

Looks like campaign managers are paying members for sleeping, having sex with girlfriend, boyfriend or let's be gentle with spouse.

Did you bring it to have an argument? An intellectual argument or you are out of idea?

I don't see you have anything to defend against your ban but you are surely making everyone happy, giving us some elements to entertain. Good job.

Just want you to understand op, that no crime in forum supercedes each other, since your has been caught cheating and disrespecting the institution of bitcointalk I think it will face the challenges others that committed same thing are facing, i heard other users who is soliciting for the account to be restor, yeah, it's nice to support someone account to be unban because you are exercising your sympathy with the user, but we have to remember that granting op favor of unbanning his account because of this single act, it need to be done generally by unbanning people who committed same crime for some years back to avoid injustice.

Have mercy everyone. Please it will never happen and repeat itself again. Please I am on my knees. I use the Almighty God (Jesus Christ) to beg everyone. My fellow Christ and Muslim, and other Religions Brothers and Sisters please! Please!! Please!!! have mercy and forgive me as the Holy Bible and Qur'an also forgive Sins. It will never happen again. 🙏🙏🙏

You did not understand the post you quoted.

You only deserve a chance if you can prove that you contributed good things for the forum. Saying sorry, promising to not repeat your plagiarism, binding your appeal with religions are not contributions for the forum.

Show the admin and community about your contributions, how you received your merit, if they see you have good contributions, you will have a bigger chance.

But you must know you did plagiarized many times and did it for money incentives. You are not innocent with your plagiarism. Even you have good contributions, your chance is not too big compare with people just plagiarized one or two times because they did not know the rule.

I wonder why when users here asks for forgiveness because of what they've done, they always involve some religious terms like "Muslim, Almighty God, Jesus Christ" etc. etc.
Do they think that when they use it, they will be given a second chance? I mean I'm just curious because I've seen some users here who got banned, and then when they are asking for second chance, they're using words like this.

To the OP, you made a mistake, and that mistake is enough for you to get permabanned just like what theymos, and hilariousandco said. Better move on, and move forward. You might made some good contributions here... but it is what it is.

This is why I'm not browsing in the forum whenever I'm drunk, or not feeling well. I might do something like this.  :D :D

Good point. It turns out that they resort to religion only after they themselves have violated its laws, and they have to remember all their sins. Why get on your knees at the moment when you deliberately deceived both your God and the whole community?
OP, first think about what you are doing. If you are a religious person, then you need to pray for forgiveness somewhere else, not on the forum.

damn, this is getting worse and worse for the OP. knowing that the highlighted part was also plagiarised and came from the same topic makes me think that OP got so comfortable with plagiarising because he hasn't gotten caught for doing it rampantly until he got caught.

from what I have seen and personal experience, they do this to gain sympathy by mentioning influential figures who are known for their "kindness", and "compassion", and sadly, it does work sometimes(at least from what I have seen).

Jesus and Allah aren't in this forum, off topic replies.

There's no proof if you will not took someone words without original source, assuming you will not do it, I believe you will trying to find another way to trick e.g. using ChatGPT and continue to milking the forum.

Go seek a job in real life, there's nothing you can do anymore in this forum, the probability you will get unbanned is almost zero.

I think plagiarism is a bad act. Even though I am a beginner, all forums prohibit plagiarism. It takes decisive action so that it does not become a habit. I am a blogger, plagiarism is a cursed act

This is off topic, maybe if you have a mistake in the real world then God will forgive you but this is a forum that has rules that must be obeyed and before you start you have to know the rules how plagiarism is strictly prohibited here there is no tolerance at all.

So what's your argument for getting a second chance?
Meanwhile, there is a lot of evidence that you have committed plagiarism several times just to meet the posting quota.

I also see that you are aware that it was your mistake that was made, so accept the consequences.

You messed up big time @ O.P. because you knew how the forum frowned at plagiarism and still yet you went about paraphrasing people's words, which is the same as plagiarism just to complete your quota for campaign requirement. Because are we to call this an act of laziness, or a result of you lacking the basic knowledge to engage in meaningful conversation on this forum? Or what? Because as it stands now, I can only advise you to move on, because, with all evidence gathered against you here, I doubt if you have any chance getting your account back.

I am shocked to see your appeal because I have always seen you around some boards, and I think you were really trying in some posts you made, but I do not think you just used a paraphrasing tool to make them. I have one question for you: do you think the practice of paraphrasing other's comments to make your own is a wise and healthy way of contributing to the forum? If yes, then you might get unbanned, but if no, then the moderators might not consider unbanning you because you have nothing serious to contribute to the forum. Judging by the evidence from the digging so far, you have lied that it's just the first time you're doing this.


What kind of student are you? If you think the forum was helping your student lifestyle because of the SATs you were earning from the signature campaign, then why have you been paraphrasing and spinning others comments? You didn't do it once, not even twice.

I thought this was just a simple issue on which I could support you, but honestly, you made a mess.

You did wrong in the first place by trying to deny the facts and evidence leveled against you, While later when it has become obvious that you committed plagiarism you are now pleading. Whatever outcome or punishment this may result, you have to bear it so that it will serve as a lesion to you next time not to copy someone's post. We have a lot of boards in this forum where you can find suitable discussion to make contribution, not necessarily one will be good at posting in all boards but at least you should have some boards where you are good at making quality contribution. 

First of all you have broken the rules of the forum, and then you did an appeal post for in a way that people should think you were banned because of someone's mistake or someone has just reported you because you have done a mistake. I don't have any words to say about you because you have done a really low level act by just copying others ideas and pasting those with changed words with the help of paraphrasing. I don't think that a good and honest member ever thinks about doing such act.

Now you are trying to bring religion on your behalf and asking mercy for your act. I don't think that you will get unbanned by bring religion and other sects and creeds in your behalf in a ban application. Every user of the forum is empathic enough to forgive those who have been banned mistakenly or by unconsciously breaking a rules that lead to the ban. However, in your case it's crystal clear that you were doing the act consciously and you were happy because you got some money from signature campaigns by paraphrasing other users work.

Finally, I don't think that you can be unbanned because your act isn't accepted here and you played with the goodness of the campaign managers who trusted you by giving you the opportunity to earn an extra income from your contributions to the forum. However, they weren't sure that you were taking advantage of their kindness. I feel piety for you my friend and recommend you to change yourself and not to take advantage of those who allow you to earn bread and butter for your work.

He messed up...big time!!
I usually stumbled on his post and on several occasions, have donated a little merit to support his growth, regardless of whatever.... Ethnicity, religion, believe etc... So that shouldn't even be a point to reckon.
Maybe I'll be more careful when meriting 'em post cus these particular case doesn't even portray "ignorance"... It portrays a deliberately maneuvered sense of "making things workout easily"... I meannn, it's damn simple when anyone picks up a post and interchange words - in his own use of English and then, boommm!!! - increases his post count... I just feel he's begging endlessly for justice that mercy can't be tendered as the "best" option.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Do you really think that these people are really sorry for their actions and they are also feeling ashamed in front of their god/religion? i don't think so.

They will write anything on the forum to gain sympathy and by asking forgiveness using the playing card or slogan of religion or whatever. You will feel that these people might be crying about having the account ban and ashamed of whatever wrong they did, but if you happen to see them physically, they must be abusing the ones who reported and banned their account(s).

I think on that part that you include "I am a student"

you could have atleast add some words like "joining sig/bounty campaigns are the part time job where I can earn money while studying - This I think might be the reason of your appeal so admins can lift the ban of your Original account.

anyways, there will be open doors for you, this will just be a hard lesson learned. Godbless to your Journey.!!!

I think there are some things we need to understand over here, in as much as we are trying to increase in our post quality or even try to emulate others we shouldn't copy them directly to what they have posted before. We should try to use our original sense to create post instead of copying what others already post, I went through some of the comparison, my dear it looks so intentional but your appeal is so heart touching which I don't even know what to believe currently. My suggestion is that, If we don't have a basic knowledge on what that thread is typically saying why not you just read through to gain more knowledge from what others had already said than just copying and paste to complete your quota for the week because I can see the account was already in a campaign before it was ban, I know people that matters already said everything let me not waste much time saying what I know won't help at any point.

That's not even the issue. I don't think there's a rule against copying what others have said. The rule is against copying others without giving the credit to them. That's a crime, both here and in the intellectual world. It's called plagiarism or intellectual theft.

There were one of two things OP could've done there and not have fallen into that crime that got them banned. The first would've been to put the sentences lifted from SamReomo in quotation marks to show there weren't his. The second would be to put a source link to it. I don't see how doing either of the two would've belittled the OP. I don't know what OP's real reason was for doing what they did but it's bad practice of them to have done it. I hope they do find redemption for this.

And you think such offence would be forgiven here If you were to be the Mod and Admin or even Theymos?
Op have a very slim chance to be restored back, hence should considered as a dead case.
One thing I don't ever do is feeling dizzy while forcing myself to Read and or do any home chores, dizziness has a very bad effects on our lives but we seems to take it casual. Most times it could results to home incident/accident, like feeling dizzy while handling your Kitchen knife, diving or possibly trying to make payment to someone might even results sending the payment to the wrong person.


Hence, I am making these clear to people over here to understand whenever they are feeling dizzy to stop visiting their smartphone, laptop and to whatever thing that concerns their general life in order not to raise further stories why their account was ban I can see that is the only solid statement op holds at hand, apart from forum here also in our respective home as we often neglects dizziness.

I don't think you should deliberately misconstrue me to make a point. Remember the part where I said it was a crime both on this forum and outside it? You left that out? Again, OP didn't just copy another user's post; they consciously tried to pass it off as theirs by attending their own words to it. It's even a bigger crime than the regular plagiarism. That's why I said "I hope they do find redemption for this" type of attitude.

Especially that!

The OP has lost the DiMarxist account and it will be rendered useless as far as making any income from signature campaigns and bounties are concerned even if for reason the ban is lifted in future. This is most probably not his only account therefore it is safe to say he will concentrate on being far more careful with his remaining accounts as he tries to maximise income from bounties and signature campaigns.

I literally am speechless after reading this ;D

Another so-called Marxist, who has not read Marx's ideas and if he has read them he has not understood them. For Marx religion is the opium of the people, a consequence of the material conditions and the organization of private property, which according to him would eventually disappear as societies move towards the dictatorship of the proletariat. In other words, using Dimarxist as a nickname and appealing to God as he is doing is paradoxical to say the least.

That aside, I do not support a lift to the ban. I don't quite see how a half year old account that has been plagiarizing like this can have any significant, positive importance to the forum.

Maybe he has lost the das capital book. So forget the concept of Marx. Sigcam has made him a capitalist, no longer a socialist  ;D

From the above post you shared shows that Op has been regularly doing that and when a post is created op goes for the most organized post and maybe trying to modernized the post to created his or her post from it. I think there are some other post they quoted as well, and if him or she must be forgiven the signature space should be removed (halted) for like 1 year or more this is just my suggestion and if op would have that chance to be considered.

I am against lifting the ban too regardless of the OP citing begging for mercy. I wonder how many accounts the OP is using in the forum.

This is yet another example (as you put it) of paradoxical conduct. What has to be said is that it is not the only post that shows the strange manner in which the mind of some people works.