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I see poverty as the inability to provide what you need. So when people assume that poverty is when you don't have money I don't agree. Now what if you have all you need and you don't require money to buy anything, are you poor? Some people live in communities where everyone lives agrarian life. They have all they need because everything they need to survive is available. Food is on the farm, water available and everybody is happy. Although it was hard during the Covid-19 lockdown many people lived without money. I have also seen many people leaving cities and moving to rural areas to live a natural life.

In summary when you have everything you need to survive and you don't need money, are you poor?

Speaking of poverty is a lot of context and depends on how your perspective or point of view is now to conclude it in the discussion. I think this discussion will only be related to human dissatisfaction and greed and spinning to things that we often encounter in every discussion about the economy and poverty in this forum and I think it will also spin around the same conclusion.

Poverty is not seen from the amount of money you have, I can consider the person in your story to be a rich person, because you can enjoy life without thinking about having money or not, and or without thinking tomorrow is because he has life and awareness of thinking From its perspective.
Someone will make it poor and still need money, someone thinks the same as me.

With the meaning everyone has his views, but will refer to the same discussion pattern, are you not bored? ???

Did you know that some people are just average, they can not afford all that they need and they are not even planning to afford all because not all needs are necessary.

Just like you said, someone that is living agrarian live in a way they are cultivating land for crop planting and rearing animals. These kind of people may not need anything. It can not be said that they are poor too.

To be poor means a person that can not afford to eat three good meals per day, not having good cloths and shelter. If you see them, you will know that they are poor in the kind of environment they are living, the food they are eating. Did you know that some people will borrow to eat or depend on someone? Some people can not afford to send their child to school. If someone can not meetup with the basic needs of life, the person is poor. It is not about if the person is agrarian or living in a well developed city.

According to Investopedia,


However, "a minimum standard of living" is subjective.


That's hard to say because "need" is subjective. A person can be poor and content, but anything less than the minimum needed just to survive would probably be considered poor by anyone's measure.

Poverty refers to lack of money that's how everybody sees it,  however living far from the city having your own farm and have the ability to feed and provide shelter for your family, that wouldn't be considered living under poverty level.
There has been a lot of things to consider in determining who's living under poverty or not, one of the primary reason is the unemployment and lacking of ability to generate money consistently.
I guess being poor in the city is much harder than being poor in the rural areas where you can plant crops and vegetables and raise livestocks as well.  

Do you know that to get everything you need money and without money you get nothing..
Lemme just clarify you on the power of money, Money gives confidence, Hope and peace of Mind, Money makes you revived even though you are ill whenever you receive some certain amount the Joy alone makes you 20 percent revived from the illness. Just as the Igbo's does whenever they are sick just mentioned some certain amount of money as gift to them you would see how effectively they will recover from their illness. In addition, without money you are stocked in a place without moving from that region, so money is 80 to 96 percent of man's existence after the breath. So, When we talk of poverty is refers to as man not having money in all ramification of life.

Do you know that life is beyond what we eat, where we live, and how our family feeds? Those might be the essential reasons why we strive so hard to earn a living, and just because those things are available, that does not mean we are going to stop trying to make money because medical bills, children's school fees, transportation, clothing, upgrading to the modern generation, fitting in ecological changes—all those things require money, and if we just see poverty as not being able to feed the family, then we are wrong.

But if everything that one needs to survive is readily available for him and all expenses, both present and those to arise in the future, can be settled, then such a person is no longer poor but is living an average life.

Those are the attributes of poverty
Deep down, if you don't have money to provide for those basic needs then its assume you are poor, a poor man doesn't only ends of not being able to provide for his family, but seeing what to do with money and can't initiate the move to do it is also poverty. Let say for instance, you are passing by the road side along the line you are hungry whereby a restaurants is close by but since you aren't able to afford what it takes to go their and have some plate of food are also considered being poor.
@Nwada001 explained to you, money is mostly needed in all ways of life.

To me, poverty is when a person cannot afford the necessary things in life. Things like food, clean water, shelter, health care, and education. That's just one way to look at it.
Also, a person can be poor when they are living on less than $1.90 a day. That is the global poverty line. So if a person spends less than $1.90 on food, transportation, education, electricity, and other basic needs a day, he is considered to be poor. I prefer this version better because even if you don't spend money n the things you see a day like the example you gave on people leaving on a farm, those things can still be valued with money. The fruits and vegetables can be valued as money. so if the value of everything they spend a day is less than $1.90 then they are poor.

I agree with your point. I'd like to also add that poverty should be considered when the means to be able to grow is extremely tough. Opportunity is low, living costs versus income are close and the ability to save is limited. I think that someone who has landed themselves as poor from bad decisions but have the ability to change if they worked hard enough, is not in poverty but rather just poor.


Maybe from a general society outlook you would be poor...but really, you can live. You are not poor in time. You are not poor in the sense of your fulfillment (as you have all that you need)...and if you live like this by choice, you probably aren't vein so you are probably not poor in your mind.

The short answer: Poor in terms of money? Maybe, the opinion is subjective. In poverty? Definitely not.

The answer to this question can not be uniformly started since different individuals with their peculiar needs and wants and there is big difference between the two because needs is limited while want or desire is unlimited and this reflect on the life of those individuals,  some people starting point is another person ending steps what differentiate them is what their looking out for and the level of opportunities that their both exposed to.

Being content doesn't mean satisfaction and their different perspectives and wants,  and being rich or poor is a thing of the mind and not necessarily depend 100% on the money,  we have other vital factors.

In my opinion, a poor person is a person who has money or possessions, but cannot meet all of his basic needs. Or in other words, the poor can only meet half of their basic needs. And what you mentioned food on the farm also costs money and capital which suggests the person has lots of money to farm and is probably not quite poor.

Poverty has many meanings, it all depends on what aspect it is aimed at. Because in my opinion poverty means a lack of an aspect or situation. So if poverty is aimed at the financial aspect, it is certain that that comes to mind, lack of money or lack of necessities of life. So if there are people whose lives are short of money, and their needs are not fulfilled, you could say that person is financially poor. But if there are people who don't have money, but whose needs are fulfilled, I don't think that person can be called a poor person. Because if a person's needs are fulfilled, even though the finances are not too much, his life can be said to be quite decent.

But if you talk about something deeper like happiness, financial aspects or needs, sometimes for some people it's not that important to always be there. Because people like that already talk about contentment. Because if in their life, their hearts always feel satisfied and grateful, even if not with money, or with having all their needs fulfilled, for them with that they already feel rich and have enough. So in conclusion, poverty when viewed from all existing aspects, it all depends on the person who interprets it.

In a setting where money is useless and not required, money no longer is the criteria to be tagged either rich or poor. If there is everything that you need  available like food etc. The rich and poor will then be determined by the quantity of food they have. Rich and poor is determined by the quantity of the resources you have. In some ancient African cultures where agriculture is a major practice and planting of yams and rearing goats is the major products, the man who has the largest yam barns and goats is usually called the richest. So if money is not needed, there will still be rich and poor people which will now depend on the amount of resources they have.

The generally accepted concept is that poverty is a condition associated mainly with the inability to meet financial needs.  But by going deeper into the studies of many cases, this concept expanded to also include people who are unable to pay their needs due to misbehavior and lack of experience, despite their ability to obtain funds.  This last concept includes especially employees with a fixed monthly income who cannot achieve a balance between income and expenses.

According to William BrownWilliam Brown: Poverty is the state of being poor; that is, lacking the basic needs of life such as food, health, education, and shelter. https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780199670840.001.0001/acref-9780199670840-e-1716

Poverty refers to the lack of adequate financial resources such that individuals, households, and entire communities don't have the means to subsist or acquire the basic necessities for a flourishing life. This means being so poor as to struggle to obtain food, clothing, shelter, and medicines. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/poverty.asp%23:~:text%3DPoverty%2520refers%2520to%2520the%2520lack,clothing%252C%2520shelter%252C%2520and%2520medicines.&ved=2ahUKEwi3l7KM3ML_AhXDnFwKHTexAy4QFnoECBEQBQ&usg=AOvVaw3yS3yYncpJTsc1jl-xsTFg

In the two definitional context above you can see it all points to same things and criteria that could be said of a person to be poor in the absence or inability of the person to provide for himself and family such needs. But unfortunately today, celebrity lifestyle and the quest for man to acquire and accumulate wealth has increasingly made it difficult to agree that anyone who can only adequately afford shelter, clothes, food and health is not still poor.
The desire to obtain and acquire ostentatious valuables has made even those that can only afford the basic needs of life to still think themselves poor, and this idea has led to ingratitude in today's society among humans.

Poverty is not just a lack of resources; it is also a lack of education and awareness of financial matters. A sort of poverty is having an incorrect outlook on life and not understanding what to do with money. Being poor displays a bad mindset and a lack of understanding, which can cause resource mismanagement and lead to become even poorer when presented with possibilities. Every person receives several opportunities from life and the universe throughout their lives, yet many people lack the skills to recognize and take advantage of these opportunities maybe due to environment or their upbringing.

Thank you for your response @Nwada001 but seems to misunderstand my question. We must strive to make money because money is important to provide for our needs as you mentioned. There are places where you don't need money for medical bills, school fees, and transportation. They rely on traditional medicine, education, and more of transportation. I know places that still use horses, donkeys, and camels for transportation. You may need money to take care of these needs but many people don't need money to satisfy these needs. There are also many modern societies where education, healthcare, and transportation are free, so you don't need money to satisfy them.

Basic needs are food, water, shelter, and clothing. Others will include healthcare, education, and others. My question was that if you need money to satisfy your needs and you have the money, you perceive not poor. And if you can satisfy these without money, you are also rich. So a man that earns money in New York to satisfy his needs and a man that owns a large farm in a rural area of South America to satisfy his needs are just the same. Money shouldn't be a determinant factor to classify people as poor or rich. I don't need to eat in restaurants to satisfy my hunger because there are none in some areas.

There are many definitions of poverty and everyone is different. But maybe we will agree that the definition of poverty is a condition where a person cannot meet his needs and does not have the money to buy them. The necessities of life here include the primary needs for survival so they must need help from others.

Compared to yesterday's Covid-19 lockdown, people can still buy something, but their movements are limited, so they use technology to order food. And it is not categorized as poverty. But some families find it difficult to buy food because they can't afford it and don't have the money, either by going alone or ordering online. And finally, many of them died.

So if someone has nothing to buy something to survive and can't do anything about it, maybe that belongs to poverty.

Technically no, Since you will just need money based your needs. But we have different measures on our personal necessities. Some people might need food and water only but others can’t live without internet and other luxury things.

Poverty is when you don’t have enough source of personal necessities. So if you have a farm or you live were everything is available for free then that can’t be considered poverty since you are not having a tough life. Money is not the measurements of poverty but the status of living of someone’s life.

I think it depends. You can have the means to purchase the basics of life but you may be deficient in other areas like a knowledge in a particular field or thing and due to this absence, can cause you to make decisions that can be costly.

I believe the Op meant that money is not the only thing when lacking that can be defined as being poor. To me, too little knowledge of anything can be dangerous and can be seen as poverty.

It is not about money; it is about basic needs. You said that they have farms and everyone is happy. If those people can afford to go to school, can eat three times a day, have clothes, have clean water, and mostly have houses, then we can't say that they are poor, but if one of those items on the list above is struggling, then they can be considered poor. The analytics right now are based on income because if you are in a city without money, it is difficult unless you are in a remote area.

The main problem is who will give this knowledge and from what textbooks (modern textbooks are often worse than those published in the twentieth century). Therefore, higher education does not mean that a person has received the appropriate knowledge. Practice is important, and the extent to which a person can self-correct.

Unfotunately yes, you are poor if you cannot provide the basic needs to your family or to yourself. Money is so powerful and its really needed when you want to do something that can make your life at ease. Without these for sure you struggle to face the challenges of the world and people will not give there respect especially if they see you penyless and doesn't have decent job. discrimination is anywhere so strive to get decent paychecks and earn a lot of money since this will give you more comfortable life.

A natural life in an agricultural context seems very pleasant for people who have never experienced how difficult it is to survive in difficult times. Prolonged drought, health problems and floods that damage agriculture are part of the challenges for people who depend on natural products for their survival. Maybe you've heard of this, money is not a medium for survival, but without money you will encounter many difficulties in life.
Of course, even if you have abundant resources to survive but no money, you are part of the poor. The cost of medical treatment, children's schooling, paying a monthly electricity fee, and other needs requires money. You can't pay for all of that by bartering with the resources you have because 2023 is no longer the stone age.

Like i also disagree the way things are in this century you need money, there is no way you can have what you need without money been in the picture talk about feeding, owning a house and also wanting to buy a car ,i think money is still involved, you need it to make provision for your need since we are no longer in the stone age you can only make this statement in the stone age,  living a agrarian life still involves money  ;D  what if his child needs surgery you also need money to process that, i know money his not everything but you still needs it. and covid 19 is different, it was because the only concern the government has is the well-been of its people.

From my own perspective, poverty is when you can't afford anything for yourself, family also to love ones. But in a way you had over all these basic needs, then such person can't be classified as poor man because he has already afford his basic needs, he may be classified as middle man or average man who only had all it takes to sustain his family.
Those that are classified to be rich men or wealthy men are people who can afford everything in life except live, living comfortable and can travel to where ever they wants, also who earnings (salaries/income) is above NGN 1M per day/week and per months. This may be true but it all depends on the angle you are viewing it.

Poverty is usually measured by the kind of money one lives on per day or per week because I think the majority of experiences of poverty have to do with low income (or no income) and being unable to afford (or barely being able to afford) the basics, such as food and shelter. You're right that there are contexts where it doesn't apply as much, such as villages in agrarian countries, where people may have a very small amount of money but live pretty decently (at least, in terms of food and shelter) because they grow their own food and can exchange what they have for what they might need from other neighbors. But still, money can usually solve the issues, and even in such a case of having what you need it still can't cover everything usually, as you need money for medicine, education, electronic devices, etc.

Moreover, the issue with the op's definition is that some people who aren't poor might be considered poor under it because what one 'needs' is a debatable thing. Maybe one strongly feels the need to buy very high-end clothes, live in a huge stylish apartment and have one of the best cars. Being unable to provide these things may feel to a person like they're poor, but it's a misguided privileged opinion.

These days being able to take your children or kids to school or not being able to do that has also being classified as characteristics to identify poverty or not. Things like the basic of elementary formal education I think so , and that is why I agree with your very first sentence of lack of money to be what people identify as poverty. People in rural area that are agrarian are also not able to take care of all their financial needs which is why there was trade by barter then. Again, in the midst of those agrarian, there were some families that could be identified as royals and lords because they are rich in animals, farm products, human capacity including slaves. These families had money that they lend to other families in return for interest and other material benefits. Money is important to identify poverty because  it is used to acquire basic needs of life. Back then in the agrarian society, some families didn't have bicycle while some had, some didn't have wheelbarrow but dependent on those who had when they want to go to the farm.

For me, the word poor and poverty is different. People who have no access to their basic needs are those in poverty. They are the ones who feel like the access to necessities such as basic education, medical assistance, water and electricity supplies are a luxury. While the poor are those living in the lower middle class where they can afford such things but still struggle affording all of their needs and wants at once. People who are living an average life with an average living expense can still consider themselves poor. Although they can afford a bit of luxury, they still struggle with meeting all their needs.

Even those who are living in an agrarian society where they have basic needs like food will still need something that they do not have. Survival is not only about having food and water, especially in this generation. Poverty is something where it's hard to have access to things you need to survive. And most of those basic needs for survival can be acquired by having money.

Hello, mate, you can't have everything. Regarding your question, I would say yes, the person is poor. because even before you are able to have everything, money is involved. I don't really think poverty is only measured by having food to eat, shelter, and water to drink. Other things are attached, like having the money to solve certain unforeseen situations or emergencies.

I see poverty as the inability to solve personal problems or difficulties that money is supposed to solve. In my country, even in typical rural villages, child delivery is not free of charge, and treatment for someone who is sick is not free of charge, even if it's a government hospital. There is no possibility that you can own the hospital and still have the midwives give you free service that will not require you to spend a penny.

In summary, too, can you list all those things that one needs to survive without needing money?

Even if you have a lot of farm land, you can farm rice, beans, yam, corn, okra, etc., but only you can not finish your farm produce you will need to sell some and use the money to buy other things you desire. Also, you cannot farm on all the farmland. You must surely need laborers, and you will pay them. If you want to build a house, you will need an engineer. Will you not pay the engineer? You will need bricks, cement, zink, nails, wood, and some other stuff. My question is, would you not pay for those things?

99% of the main factor in life is money which comes first, finance can stand out in any case according to the category of rich or poor. but it is very difficult to change destiny from having nothing to having everything. if poor people know about the world of crypto, airdrop, bounty can be an opportunity to change destiny. if people only know real work without skills will be slow to change

In the context of poverty, there may be many other things. I agree that poverty is not only in the form of money, which has other basic materials that must be fulfilled as a necessity of life.

But it is more correct to say that money covers everything and has greater power than food that is owned from plantation products or they have livestock, but they definitely need money for all the goods that must be purchased with what if they don't have them they cannot do it. anything, even with work in the garden, usually there is a wage that must be given, so money is very important.

But what we see most now is that many people perceive a lack of money as poverty.

Personally I see poverty as the lack of plans to secure the future. Money doesn't define poverty because as long has one is actively engaged in something that renders services to the society even if such doesn't have enough to live big at that point in time such person have a big chance of meeting with a bigger opportunity to someday.

Money is just a reward for consistency and will never be a difinition of poverty, it might define riches to a certain extent but still can't be a full definition of Richies.

When it comes to this topic it literally shows the different mindset of people when it comes to money based on their experience. Of course if you compare poor people who is homeless to a farmer, for sure those farmer would be contented since he could provide all their needs. While the poor one doesn't have the resources to find some way to gather money for their food or even the food source itself. I consider people poor if they literally doesn't have any resources and any other way to find a well paying job due to their lack of things. It's like you don't have any options or ways to get out of that situation.

Yes i strongly believe poverty is lack of money. Without Money world will difficult for anyone. Without money anyone cannot survive properly. For for food, house, treatment for all need money. Without money anyone could not be happy. There are many many reason for poverty but main reason lack of money. For happiness, and overall survive properly need money. Without money crisis will constant companion there has no doubt. There are no substitute for money to be happy.

Indeed farming and cultivating all kinds of plants for needs, and maybe making salt or all the spices yourself doesn't really need money because everything is readily available. However, money will still be needed because we cannot create everything we need. In contrast to people who are truly poor, apart from money it is also difficult to obtain food or necessities because they are poor in all respects and cannot meet their own needs. Because they have no land to grow crops or money, and only expect mercy from others.
and those who are able to meet their needs cannot be said to be poor because apart from having land to grow crops, they also have money to buy fertilizer and so on so that their crops are fertile and good.

Now money is one aspect that is much needed in life, everything related to the necessities of life is now related to money both in terms of economy, facilities and also including houses for shelter. lack of money is also one part of a person's poverty, and the lack of knowledge / knowledge in my opinion is one of the factors that greatly affects a person's level of poverty in life.

I think the definition of poor in some people is different. there are even those who never feel enough with the money they have that's where they look poor even though they can still eat everyday and buy anything in their daily life. but they think if you don't accumulate a lot of money then that's the definition of poor, they define it wrong. therefore the poverty rate continues to increase because they never feel enough.

There's a standard when a person or a community can be said of being poor and is living in the poverty line. Those that you've mentioned OP aren't really poor people because they've got their resources but if it's going to be the standard of life related to finances and money, we know what's the answer. Those that are living in rural areas might don't have much money but they've got enough resources for themselves and they've cultivated their lands and turned farmlands into productive agricultural sources.

You make an interesting point about poverty being relative to one’s needs and not just money. I agree that some people can live happily without money if they have access to natural resources and a supportive community. However, I wonder how you would define poverty in terms of other aspects, such as education, health, or human rights.

In this case, it would be worthwhile to separate the concept of poverty and the concept of freedom. Because if you have housing, you can feed yourself and you have the benefits of civilization, then you can hardly be called poor, but are you free in this case?

Another question is what is more valuable to you, prosperity or freedom?
If you value freedom more, then you can go to live in the village and be provided with everything you need, you will have a house, you will have a household that will provide you with food and you will be absolutely free, since you will not need to go to work, you will be free but you won't have much money. It all depends on you, what is important to you, what you value more. There is no single right choice.

Theoretically you don't need money in the example you've given, but you can guarantee that the land that they have control over has a certain value and that any resources they're able to extract from it may be exchanged and traded in a similar value to money. In most modern societies though, you'll find it tough to exist without money and the abilities it provides you to survive. Try being poor in a place like India and you won't have access to such resources as you described. You would have to find another way to make money or you would be in absolute poverty.

Actually these days money is very important and those who don't have any money are considered as poor because for farming a portion of land is needed so for buying land money is needed also some people are not able to cultivate themselves so they need to complete the process with the help of money.

I don't think that without money the needs of a person can be fulfilled because there are lots of things which cannot be possible without money. For eating, drinking,  travelling and many other activities a man needs money and those who are poor are unable to maintain a healthy and satisfied life.

I believe that there are different kinds of poverty. Some kinds of poverty are caused by a broken mindset, other kinds are caused by external forces which we have no control over. Many people are rash in blaming the poor for their circumstances but sometimes having money does not help if the person who owns it is mentally incapable of handling it.

But I also think the way we think about money as a medium of taking advantage of others needs to end.

Definitely not. It’s just that you are incapable or you lack the ability to make it work. Poverty is not just all about with money, but it also means the resources around you that you can always take advantage to but you chose not to because you have poor mindset. While rich people have been seeing a lot of opportunities around and try to take an edge over them, poor people believe they don’t deserve it so they stay where they are and just be contented on what they are currently doing, where they are comfortable and have been used to it.

We know that standard of living would really be depending on how many you do possess not only with those basic casual stuffs inside of a home or to those things which are considered basic needs but also in

life possessions on which the more you do have the higher the status you do have in a certain community. Yes,if you could eat up 3x a day and having that your own home and living up peacefully then it wont really be considered to be poor but in todays standard on which if you do make out some comparison in between to those who do live on big houses and lots of food on their fridge and have lots of cars
and lots of properties and business then you could say and see about its gap.

Life is never been equal on which there's always those people who are really that sitting on the top of the chain and there are those ones who are really that sitting below
but at least on this life which challenges and struggles is always been that part. To those who do work hard and some mix of luck does really be able to improve their status of living.

You know, literally "When you don't have money and it's hard to get a lot of money, you're poor" Maybe it depends on the individual what he believes about this matter. Not everyone wants to be rich and poor.

Now, to your question if you are a rich person, are you poor? If you're the kind of person who doesn't know how to be content with life, that means even if you're rich if you're not satisfied with the life you have, that's a difficult situation. Because in our time today, many rich people save wealth here on earth, but no one saves wealth in heaven, and there are others who, even though the situation in this world is difficult, are able to save wealth in heaven.

Poverty is a state of mind, a rich man can travel miles to give a poor man money, if the poor man has what he needs. In that situation the poor man can control the rich man as long as he wants, until he hands over the item or information to the rich man. Nobody on Earth possess everything, some have money, while others have food, pastures and livestocks like Op stated. The person with money needs those things and would do everything to get them with his money. They is a saying that “you can only be weather-wise or otherwise". A person can't hold it all. Everyone can be said to be rich and poor in their own capacity. Health is the best wealth.

This is determined by the individual's point of view and how they perceive the world around them in general. We have people of various rank and classes whom they all belonged to. What a rich person views as poverty and being unable to purchase certain things is what an average man sees as being adequately wealthy. And what the average man owns and considers himself to be poor is also what the poor man considers to be adequately wealthy. It is a continuous process since all fingers are not equal.

Everyone has a distinct definition of what it means to be wealthy or poor, and I believe that everyone's point of view should be respected because it deals with the economic responsibility and dependence of human life. Being poor is more commonly associated with lack of money, and to the layman, this should be the true definition of poverty.

I want to say that material money is not a measure of a person's wealth or poverty, and lack of money to spend in other stages of life is not necessarily a measure of a person's poverty. With knowledge, good spirit, full health, ... then that person will not be poor, it's just that they have not fulfilled their opportunity with life. There are different values ​​in life, which I find quite contradictory and repeated because of lack of understanding, many people who lack money keep trying despite many things to achieve their goals, and then looking back they lack love mental health and may gradually lose health. A circle of things that people get stuck in, when a person is satisfied with the life they have, they will never feel poor, the poverty that is attributed to them.

Yes, you are the ones who could find out whether you are on this situation or condition on which you do consider yourself on being poor. Literally speaking about poor is on living on a house which it isnt really that something that arrange or something you can really call it out specially you do find it out these houses under the bridges and other streets which they are way too small.

The people living there does also have that lacking of personal needs and other living expenses specially on having a complete meal in a day which some people do really lack on that.
In speaking about your own point of view then there are people who do see that they arent poor, it is really just that they dont really have the money on spending into something or
really just that right for their day to day living .

The important thing on here is that there's should be no discrimination in between rich and poor people. Poverty is a global problem on which even on 1st world
countries on which there are still whose are poor.

I don't think that you could be considered as poor if you have everything to survive. You might not wealthy but if you know how to make use of the resources and know how to appreciate them, then it's for you to look at the brighter side of your situation rather than see what you don't have. Some people are contented with their lives since they are surviving through natural resources because they can also make a living out of it.
If you have the resources and still having a hard time surviving, then you are not poor but lazy. Some people, despite having all the blessings in front of them, still see what they lack instead of appreciating what they have. The financial status of a person still relies on their mindset and their level of perception. We aren't privileged but we can still find ways to survive and make a living and if we want to change our status, we should work and grind hard.

In my opinion, the views on poverty can be different for each person depending on which viewpoint he sees, because of course poverty is not only about money, even though lack of money is the main factor in being called poor.

But for me to see poverty is a situation where a person does not have enough to meet basic needs. living in true poverty is one where they do not have adequate access to resources, education, employment, or health services. With structural poverty like this, it is a difficult reality to live in poverty. And vice versa, if someone fulfills access to all of that even though they don't have a lot of money they are not considered poor because they have met their basic needs in life.

In that case no one is poor. People are happy only when they have what they need to live. So I agree with your words. A person is happy only when he has food and medical care.

Poverty essentially is the lack of capability to purchase services and products that would help sustain a livable and fulfilling life. Of course it includes the lack of money and inarguably it's the primary vector for recognizing if a person/nation is impoverished or not. Now there's also other factors to look at like financial literacy, economic status, even family member count, wherein all of these play a delicate balancing act in order to make sure one lives above the poverty line.

You make a sound point about not needing money and persisting, but if we're talking about being poor here we can't rule out contentment as a factor cause every poor person who gave up on life and stayed making ends meet just to get by will probably say at one point in their lives that they are contented, when we all know from a subjective perspective that they are living a subpar life compared to the modern standards of living.

Poverty isn't the lack of money. I agree, poverty is failing to meet one's needs. And to meet one's needs, one doesn't have to have money. As a matter of fact, there are so many place where I've been where people don't have much money, but they have all the things that they basically need. They have a decent house, abundant nutritious food, decent clothing, and so on. But what they don't have are modern technologies. They don't have air conditioners, smart televisions, laptop, microwave oven, refrigerators, and so forth. But I don't consider them poor.

The definition of poverty in the three aspects you asked about is actually very broad because the aspects of education, health and human rights are more directed to how a country is led by a good government with development for these three aspects. Because education will look inadequate when called poor, so does health. As for human rights, this is more about how the government provides space for the public or the community to convey suggestions from them and be able to receive good input from the public.

This means that money poverty is also a very important aspect and cannot be separated from the three aspects you mentioned. Because someone who has little finances will not be able to get a higher education and will not be able to find more decent health in his life even though his human rights have been fulfilled. And for certain natural resources and communities, it is only a technical part that can be used to support a more prosperous society because natural resources that are managed and processed properly can also provide extraordinary results and make everyone move away from poverty.

It depends on how we define it. And we will have to make them, otherwise everyone will have one in their head and this is a semantic definition.

If you have everything you need to survive, and I mean that you can eat enough to cover your nutritional needs, you live in a house, you have clothes and you can use means of transport if you need them, I understand that you are not poor.

What happens is that nowadays poverty is usually measured as a ratio, and the income of a country is taken, and whoever is in the lowest 20% of income is considered poor, despite the fact that he covers the needs mentioned above and lives much better than a poor person in the 19th century.

You're right, it's a vicious cycle we're all going through. But I will not agree with you that, having knowledge, spirit, health...but without money, unable to meet daily needs, that person is bound to be poor. Life's needs are not just enough to eat as OP said, or as you say, need health. Look at how the rich live, and you will know whether we are rich or poor.

We all have greed, but when we don't achieve that ambition, we are satisfied with what we have and change our conception of wealth. But that's only true for us, not for society.

Some definitions have been made according to the general majority. We can also say that money does not work by giving an example of a community that does not need money. But what we said is not true. Many things are shaped by the needs of the majority.

This is a question that can be answered differently from different angles. For the people you give examples of, money and poverty have nothing to do with it, but for most of today's societies, money and poverty are directly related. Also, just because you don't need money now doesn't mean you won't need it later. Sometimes we may need things we don't have, or we may discover that we have a different need.

We need money to buy many things we need today. If we can't get something we need, then we are poor. In general, this is the result.

Technically a person like that is not poor, however you are describing a person that is living in a way that is extremely rare on the west, after all such a lifestyle will not allow such a person to buy any of the latest technologies or have access to electricity and other modern appliances, and not even the Amish live such a frugal lifestyle, so if at some point such a person wants to buy some products from others then they will have no choice but to sell some of their products and acquire money.

I think that's the eternal argument between my wife and me. I am not saying that I could be poor and still live greatly, but she keeps introducing me to better shit and I keep wanting them because of that. I honestly believe that I could live in a small 1+0 apartment that is just one room, bed, kitchen, my pc, tv, all in same place with just a toilet, a small place and I wouldn't even need to get out, I would just order in everyday whatever I need.

That way, I would wake up, get in front of my pc, do my work, then when that's over, play some pc games or ps5, and eat, and just go back to sleep and keep doing this 365 days a year without ever wanting to do anything else, or at least it was like that before her. Now she got me hooked on so many things in life, and I keep wanting more, well if you keep wanting more, then you will need more money. I could have lived quarter of what I spend now alone, and yet because she likes good life, I want a good life too now, and this is why we spend so much more.

Money is just a tool for the exchange of goods. That's it. If you get to an island where money is not considered as valuable then it will be useless.
With regard to your question, well it depends on the way you want to live your life. If it just enough for you to live with your basic needs, food, shelter, and agriculture, then be it. But just take in mind that we now live in a world of extravagant. Designer clothes, travel experiences, and cars. You can only access these things with the use of money.

Yes, you can survive without. But why would you if you are capable of exceptional life.

People started to move to rural areas because of the insanely high taxes they are paying in cities and yet they were not able to get any facilities when the lockdown was in affect and they understood that with limited resources people were able to do their jobs. If you look now majority of the commercial buildings are empty because some of the companies now prefer work at home and hence save money.

On to the topic, if you are having the resources it automatically means that you are having the wealth to obtain those resources. You are portraying a situation where everyone is having everything which is not a realistic situation. Either you need to be in jail to get all those resources for free without paying anything  :P.

Those who do not need to buy daily necessities are not poor because they are producing daily necessities. Many of us think that all those involved in agriculture are poor, but agriculture does not mean being poor. There are many farmers who grow all kinds of crops and export their produce to different places to meet their own needs. It is wrong to think that just because they live in villages and are engaged in agriculture, they will be poor.

Yes when various workplaces were declared closed due to covid 19 many people came back from cities to villages to lead a normal life. Because they moved from the city to the village thinking that they will spend their lives in the village. So agriculture is not a poor profession.

If you don't have money then you are poor and accept it, some people don't want to live as materialistic so they decided to lead simple life but you will be still called as poor when you don't have money in the bank account whereas if some rich person moves to such lifestyle will become a talk of the town.

Food will not grow 365 days a year so if the community ran out of food then they need money to buy stuffs needed for survival.

actually Poverty literally talking about Lack of money but if you are talking about Poorness ? then that is different thing because we might be poor in money but we are rich In LOVE and Friends .

Poverty is about not having enough money to meet basic needs including food, clothing and shelter. However, poverty is more, much more than just not having enough money. The World Bank Organization describes poverty in this way: “Poverty is hunger. Poverty is lack of shelter.

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Look at how it was explained but did not mentioned about lovers and family and friends.

I disagree with you.

Even if you have food because you have a farm, you can't deny the fact that you still need money for your other needs, like paying your electric bills, water bills, tuitions of your kids, and other services that requires money as a payment. Money is the biggest role player in our everyday lives, especially in urban areas, if you don't have enough money to sustain your needs, yes, you are poor, simple as that.

Poverty begins when people thinks that they are deprived of anything like most of the people have money but they don't know how to use it therefore they cannot live a life which is satisfied, some people have lots of money but their health is not well so these individuals spend most of their money on treatment therefore their life is not satisfied.

This is correct that whenever the needs of a person become completed then he will become a wealthy person without money but I think that needs can be fulfilled but desires never ends so this desires make a person poor in his own thoughts as he compares his life with others.

Poverty cannot be measured by lack of money, as long as they have sufficient resources even though they do not have money, that person cannot be categorized as poor. As long as they are still able to eat three times a day, sleep in a proper place, have daily activities that can feed their family, the person is not yet categorized as poor.
The people in the village look poor with the way they live. If all the resources they have are cashed in, they can afford a house with all the luxurious facilities. Poor when they have nothing to sell, they must rely on the mercy of others to survive.

Whatever the case, people have the choice of the kind of lifestyle they want to live, and for someone who doesn't just want to live some kind of comfortable lifestyle, they will need some kind of financial-well to enable them to live the good lifestyle they want. Once you can live the good lifestyle you want, you can consider yourself not poor because you feel you have everything you desire in life, but someone who really has more than what you own will consider you poor. Some people feel they have everything and that they are not poor, but if they have the opportunity to travel out of their country to well exterblish countries where they can feed their eyes with goods things and enjoy life for some days, then they will testify to them selfs that they are poor.

What I mean is, if everything you have is worth about $10k and someone's wealth is 20X, 50X, or 100X what you have, then you are poor because you cannot afford what those people can afford. But the lifestyle some people live is a choice. Some people say they are okay with what they have and that their children will continue where they stopped and make more wealth.

Based on your talk about living in an apartment with a toilet, kitchen, and the rest of it (your PC), what if your wife starts having babies, after which your kids start coming of age? Do you think the same apartment can contain your entire family? Do you believe you are your wife can still be living that comfortable lifestyle in that house at that time? Every plan people make at their mature age should include plans for the future of their children as well. (Just saying.🤠)


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There's nothing wrong with that explanation, but did you know that in rice cultivation, even to produce quality rice, you also need to provide quality fertilizer? Not only that, farmers cannot work alone, they must have the help of other people, and to provide wages, of course, they need money. Don't misunderstand that today's concept of agriculture will not approach the concept of traditional farming. Currently, with the sophistication of technology and the costs required to produce vegetables, fruits require a lot of money. I say that because, in the agricultural sector, it has been almost 6 years and is still running now. During the pandemic, we were actually overwhelmed during the harvest and the process of transitioning to fertilizing seeds, costs soared, and automatically the money needed exceeded the costs before the pandemic. Workers who demand an increase in wages because of soaring demand and we as farmers must be able to think not only in times of profit but during unexpected long dry spells, which is most unavoidable when pests come, then the demands of farm laborers from all elements are still important including money to keep things running well and smoothly.

In a context where money has no value, the determination of rich and poor will turn to other criteria, such as the quantity and availability of essential resources. So actually, wealth and poverty can be relative to some extent. I believe that in different societies and cultures, the criteria for determining wealth and poverty may vary based on available resources and the values maintained by the community. So meeting their basic needs may be their primary concern, while for others, happiness and satisfaction may be more important, even if they have no resources. substantial finances.

Having everything that can sustain our life doesn't mean that we are poor but apart from these we need to have money to get our needs. In my own opinion, I think that in order to be considered poor a person should not have enough to live on but as I mentioned it is important to have money for other necessities and luxuries as well. That is, it would not be correct to describe ourselves as poor unless we have our wants and luxury products but it would not be correct to say that we are poor if we have everything in order to survive. In summary, I think that having everything that can sustain our life and not having money is not poverty. If we need to make a classification we can think that individuals who are in this way are middle class individuals.

Anything that you don't have you can be called poor in that category.

In finance, you cannot be called poor even if you don't have money but you have the resources. Everything that has value means money. For instance, many people in rural areas lack money but they have an abundance of food and other resources such as lumber and mineral.

A lot of rich people actually do not have tons of cash. I have a rich client before that is too low on cash because all of his income from his business weekly goes to different types of investments like properties and stocks. He even sometimes borrows money when huge amounts are needed. He's got a lot of assets but low in cash but he is not poor but the opposite.

So in the end, the balance sheet is the only way to call someone poor or rich.

The issue of poverty is a serious situation that generates deaths annually and you come here as a 6-year-old child in that context.

 It is not that it is bad to talk about poverty, on the contrary, but I repeat, you do not want to come and tell a poor person that they can live without spending money.

They poverty is associated also with  access to basic services structural deficiencies, dirt floors, lack of access to adequate hospitals, transportation, depending on the country it is poverty in others it is not, because the government supports social assistance.

That is, no matter if he doesn't spend money, at least of course they belongs to an indigenous community that culturally survives that way.

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Not having access to bank credit can mean in many countries that you qualify as a poor person.  It is really complex and as I mentioned it even includes the sociocultural aspect. (e.g.)

I agree with what you say in this matter because money is not a benchmark for wealth or poverty and indeed the point you said about health issues, science etc, is the right thing.
But on the other hand, for now, health and science are also still based on money at this time because indeed I may not know what it's like in a developed country, but when I'm in a developing country like me now health, science and all forms related to things that are more good for ourselves still based on money. As long as we have that, the best facilities will definitely follow and if indeed we are short of money then it will be normal without anything that is truly equal.
This kind of gap cannot be changed just by trying or not, but indeed money will definitely determine where you will be recognized and pampered.

There is an economic psychological and religious definition of poverty. I believe the economic definition of poverty would be when your cost of living is higher than the standard of living. That is the individual is unable to afford the basic needs. This varies from one environment to another.

The psychological definition of poverty maybe an individual who is week in mind and cannot generate ideas to better dear economic condition. Therefore if you ask me I would say from the economic standpoint poverty is actually a lack of money and poverty from a psychological standpoint is a lack of ideas to generate money.

Poverty is like a chronic disease, which they do not want to treat realistically, and try to avoid this topic, and to convince themselves "well, it's not too bad? What can we do? Nothing! Let's live like this... Our ancestors lived like this... We'll live this way... And our children will live this way..."

Poverty comes from the lack of culture, education, habits, desire to study/develop/work, various religious "cockroaches", etc. It can be overcome only by the person himself, if he has the WILL to change his life, and not the desire for someone to do it for him... And very many people imagine the solution to poverty - to get a lot of money... Which then it turns out they do not know how to manage, because there is no knowledge and skills of handling and managing money.

Some people fall into the wrong side of history and that has limited them with the resources they had today despite many generations that have passed on to them today, the privilege to enjoy some benefits is not there though there are some people that are rich today because their great generations have done some bad things in the past, some have indulged into illegal business and money deals, today their grandchildren generation are enjoying the wealth today.

Just as I have said earlier, some generations were not favored inequality, slavery also contributed to some of these aspects, racism, and ethnic hate contributed to why we have numbers of poverties but Africa has a factor, education was one of the major roles why some people were privileged today because they were in bigger place earlier when they had their basic educations than people who never did until their generation later hops into the game.

Now back to your question, I think there is a difference between poverty and being poor, being poor depends on the individual mind, I can be using a Gucci product and choose to say that those who wear ordinary brands as fake, I could also see someone eating or drinking cheap food and may see them as poor and there is another person in another place seeing me as also been poor, poor depends on individual definition but poverty is something I don't want to wish for anyone.

Unfortunately, you can live now without money. I don't believe you will survive just having these crops on your land and relying on them without using money, I don't think so. Because in these days, money is very important and that is why people are getting crazy to have more sources of income just to have a comfortable life. Poverty is definitely a lack of money. Even those who have a job already but considering their income isn't enough to give a good living, that still belong to poverty line.

Depends on how you percieve being poor and being rich; we do all have different lifestyles. As OP have mentioned those people or families which are living on perhaps farm wherein they have the resources for necessities, are simply not poor because they can provide the things that they want. It just so happened that their needs are not as expensive as with other people. So I'd say you are poor if you cannot provide to yourself, the things that you want such as luxurious things if that is one of your desires. Being poor does not revolve around money I believe. It is determined by the life you desire and the state of life you are living on. Problem arise due to people having high way of living but are not able to match it with their salaries. You ain't poor if you can get that education, food in the table, hospital bills if incase an emergency happen, a house, and a mindset that you are getting atleast the minimum of the life that you are wanting.

I think you "can't" have everything you need in the world. I mean not what you want, I mean "need", because the worlds needs keep growing all the time as well. You can eat pasta and rice (or whatever is cheapest food in your own town) and live in a crappy small house, and not really have too much stuff, basically you could make it as little as possible but then technology improves. Like we all need phones now, or like how its weird to think about not having a tv, or a laptop, or a tablet, something to spend time on, or not having clothes, clothes gets old, so keep getting new ones, and even tech for them improves, or something new may come up, or you may get sick and the cure could be expensive and not covered. I can name a million things, basically you can't have all that you need, sometimes you need more and certainly you want a million times more, even needs are not done, think about how what you want will be hard to achieve.

There is some truth to what you say, but still there are other facts that you need to consider. Poverty doesn't always come from lack of money. If there is lack of services, resources, good quality of life, no food, no education, no roof, then yes, even though you have money, you are still living under poverty even though you have money. But the way you wrote, it sounded that money isn't needed as long as we have "everything". Even in agriculture based societies, money still plays a role. Think about the infrastructure that supports the community - clean water systems, electricity to power homes, medical services, transportation, and so on. These things generally require funding to establish and maintain. So, someone must have the "money" to buy those, and provide to the community, no? Even if individuals aren't directly handling money, somewhere along the line, there's a monetary transaction. That might be at a government level, a non-profit, or another organization supporting the infrastructure. So yeah, without "money", you can't actually survive.

Yes, poverty is a lack of money because when you don't have money to get what you want from the community make people to see you as a poor man or woman because they have seen the evidence in you by beginning people around you for mean. But when you have money, very easy for you to get anything you want from the environment and people will see the evidence of good living in you and your entire family which is the kind of life everybody want to live on earth when money come. There are some people that have the ability to provide what they need but they are still poor in the country because they don't have the money, but it will be difficult for someone to have a huge amount of money and be poor in the society.

It depends. Having no money doesn't necessarily mean you are poor. In general if you have no money and no assets or anything that has value, no stable job and struggling to survive each day then you can categorize your situation as poor in every aspect.

On the other side, Just like in your example, In rural areas where some people are living with sufficient food and everything they need is already available, they can live without problem even without money. Because they have lands to plant, that's a valuable property that they can sell to have cash if needed. In this situation, yes they have no money but they have property in possession that has value. Hence, it depends on your status in life and the place where you're living.

Poverty is the inability to be able to provide the necessary things you need to live as a human being. Having everything you said means you're not poor because if you have food, cloth and shelter it means you don't have to beg anyone to live comfortable then you're not poor. You can sell your foodstuffs in the market and get money to send your children to school assuming you have kids and a family man.

Been poor isn't just the lack of money, it's the lack of other things that make living comfortable. When you don't have food, cloth and shelter, you can be called poor. Poverty is a mentality, we have those that have money but they lose them all because of their poor mentality.

We live in a community where material weakness is the thing that connects and easily ties into everyone's life, I find having money or not having money is not the way to measure poverty here. The point of view is that we recognize and impose each other, if we are not alert enough, we will be imposed by those covers in our thoughts. Looking at the problem of lack of money, the lack of knowledge, lack of joy, lack of health, ... is also considered as one of the factors of poverty, and it is not entirely related to material things. As well as achieving satisfaction I was asked what is the greatest desire? It is a desire without having to want anything more.

Poverty is like a chronic disease, which they do not want to treat realistically, and try to avoid this topic, and to convince themselves "well, it's not too bad? What can we do? Nothing! Let's live like this... Our ancestors lived like this... We'll live this way... And our children will live this way..."

Poverty is caused by lack of culture, lack of education, wrong habits, lack of desire to learn/develop/work, all kinds of religious "diseases", and so on. Only the person can overcome it, if he has the WILL to change his life, and not the desire for someone to do it for him ... And very many people imagine the solution to poverty - to get a lot of money. Which then it turns out they do not know how to manage, because there is no knowledge and skills of handling and managing money.
So poverty is not a lack of money....

In my opinion, poverty is a comparative characteristic. 

A person feels poor if the people around him are richer than he is.  Every person has basic needs.  This is the need for security, housing, food, water, sex, etc. 

However, basic needs standards vary by country and territory.  Man is a social animal.  He constantly communicates with other people and compares his achievements with other people's achievements. 

A person very strongly strives for a high social status, which, among other things, is measured by the income and consumption standards of each individual.

If a person is forced to be content with low standards of consumption, then he feels like a poor person and suffers a lot.

Poverty is when your needs are not completely fulfilled and you can't fulfill them because you don't have enough money or resources for it. If you don't have money but you have everything, and by everything I mean everything that you need in your life, you would probably not call yourself poor because you got everything you need and not only food and water, because we all know that we need way more than that.

So it depends on your personal needs and satisfaction level, if you are totally satisfied with what you have and you feel you need nothing at all in your life other than what you have, you are not poor, but if there is a gap somewhere out there, you are living in poverty.

Yes, I agree with this, but the problem now is that many people think money is everything, for example, if we don't have money, what can we do to meet our daily needs? In fact, if we see that our life needs are met without involving money, then that's fine. But once again now is the era where everything involves money.
Theoretically, people who are still able to meet their daily needs are not worthy of being called poor, because by definition a poor person is someone who is unable to make ends meet.

There's no one who lives without money. There's always something that's generally accepted as means of exchange within every community. Whatever that's, it's money. It doesn't need to be paper/fiat.

However, poverty isn't the lack of physical money. It's a mental state ingrained in the mind and that's why you can't take certain people out of that state no matter how hard you try. Lack of money is brokenness and it's subject to fluctuations. This same state changes from time to time, good to bad and vice versa.

I appreciate you.I see many people can't full fill their fundamental rights but they stay in well decorated house.some people i also seen consume three time  sufficient food but they stay in mud made house and they use horse and donkey for communication.Their children go to school by walking.They live happy life and they don’t want expensive car,Building and luxury lifestyle.

It is a fact that your lack of money brings poverty. Poverty makes adequate nutrition, shelter, quality education impossible, stresses people out of fear of not being able to pay debts and bills, and destroys health and happiness. He level of education decreases and the level of violence increases with poverty. I can blame a meager sum of money for all of this. You can be a farmer and consume what you cultivate but life may not be like this forever. If you want to provide a good education for your children, get a good life and health care, you need to earn enough money.

And for children the long term mental health effects of poverty are even more worrying. Exposing their families to intense stress and trauma due to poverty triggers harmful stress hormones that permanently affect children's brain development and even their genes. It limits not only their physical development but also their intelligence and learning capacities. If you want to preserve your generation you must be rich. Unfortunately the harsh realities of life.

Poverty is kind of lack in money. How does it happens? Mostly due to the financial policies and other governance factors that favour the growth of specific group of people and not the bottom end. When money gets accumulated in few hands automatically there'll be high imbalance in the financial distribution. This improper governance cause various problems at the bottom level, particularly the cost of living, unemployment, improper salary, lack of benefits from the government, etc. Poverty can be ended only if the governments make plans and work on it. Different countries have different scale to measure poverty.

Poverty for me is the current state of a person. When a person keeps his daily routine without having any sideline it will remain in his status. Poverty is an illness that can be cure, by hardwork and some other stuff. But I admit it also depends on the country he lives in it also take part in this thing. Sometimes poor people are hardworker but then their hardwork can sustain them yes but for limited time only, some people cannot sustain their needs even tho having a work, this usually happen in 3rd world countries. So yes, poverty is lack of money and resources.

There are two types of poverty, one is absolute poverty and other is relative poverty.
Absolute Poverty:
It's like when you do not even have the necassary things such as food, shelter and clothes etc
Relative Poverty:
It's like when you have everything but you live in a society where people are living abetter life then you and standard of your living in relative to them is lower.

According to your question, Yes, we are still poor because poverty mean poor but in this case you are relative poor as you started to compare yourself with other members of society which in my thought we all should avoid and live a happy life with equality regardless of any rank and standard. Now it's up to you to decide in which category one lies according to there conditions.

But we know that there are people who are really that get contented on what they do currently have on which they dont really have any plans on progressing out themselves in terms of finances but rather they

would just simply put still and would really be contented on that condition on which money is lacking and their status do remain on being poor. Well, its not really that we could really be able to force them on what are the things that they should do because even ourselves we are really that finding that way on having or getting that financial freedom via means on doing or engaging into different things which could bring
out some profits and this is something that we should really be doing in the first place. Lack of money? Who is the one not wishing to have lots?

It is really just basing or depending on how well you would be able to find on getting various sources or acquiring them via having some extra job or having investments.

Actually, it's not that they don't want luxury cars or buildings that are more livable and an extraordinary lifestyle, but they just haven't been able to get it all so they prefer to enjoy what they have or what they currently have. So that other people see that they can live happily just by having that kind of thing, even though they are also struggling to make their life look better than it already is even though they don't reveal this to other people for now.

So don't judge something just by looking at it, but try to ask them directly so you can find out what they are feeling and also what they are struggling for in their life. After all, very few people in this world are comfortable living in poor conditions, unless they are really forced to enjoy what they currently have.

In the generation that we have today, it is speaking that if you don't have money, for most you are a poor person in this world. But there are still many people who even if they don't have money, are still alive over time.

For example, the people who live in the provinces, those who don't have money are usually there but they have food that they get from the lands that they cultivate or farm. Live even if they don't have money. But they are poor people.

In terms of state data collection, poverty data is calculated from the level of income, which a person gets every day, which defines the lower, upper class economy. From there why many people who think if they do not have money is someone who is poor even though basically he has food for the needs every day.

To be honest, in my opinion it depends on where you stand and see about poverty itself, if seen from the data and use the economic level in a social class, of course if you have income below the minimum level of the lowest income, then it can be said that the person is poor.
But if you look at the pattern of daily life and they can live even without having money because they can meet their needs from their agricultural products or plantations, then if they are viewed subjectively he is a capable person.

This must be put aside because not everyone lives in rural areas and also cannot see the problem as a whole, how living below the poverty line will be very different when we live in urban areas. There is almost no way to get basic necessities for free in urban areas and you have to spend money to buy everything. It's different if we live in a rural area because there's a lot of land that we can use to grow crops for our daily basic needs, even though it doesn't look luxurious but at least it's far from enough to meet our needs.

So describing poverty in different places will never be the same, so that the classification of poverty living in urban and rural areas will be very different. But in the end poverty can be seen how they make ends meet, buy clothes and have a decent place to live and if these three things are not fulfilled properly, then poverty is very close to those who are unable to adjust.

In this case, of course, everyone has different views. In my opinion, not everyone can be said to be poor even though they don't have money because in my opinion poverty is a lack of clothing, food and so on.
so basically the poor are people who are lacking.

but there are lots of people who earn big but are still poor because their expenses are so big, but there are also people who have low incomes but can save.

I personally think that in this case it is difficult to predict because we will not be able to see whether someone is poor or not but what is certain is that we will see by the amount of money owned and property, so that it is easier to predict whether the person is rich or poor.

Indeed, poverty is a complex problem that goes much beyond a simple lack of resources. Its existence is influenced by a complex network of interrelated social economic and political forces. While a defining aspect of poverty is a lack of money its effects go well beyond that. People that are poor frequently do not have enough access to basic essentials including food shelter educatio healthcare and social services. In addition, social exclusion, prejudice, inequity, and a sense of helplessness are all linked to poverty. It is vital to understand that poverty is a systemic issue that is deeply established into our social and economic institutions rather than just an individual problem. Unfair resource allocation little prospects for economic growth and obstacles preventing access to basic services are all factors that contribute to poverty persistence. A thorough strategy is needed to properly alleviate poverty one that addresses the problem many facets. This strategy must address structural disparities and institutional impediments that deny people and communities access to the resources they require for their growth and well being.

Poor people does have plans but they only lack of resources to fulfill it. Money does define poverty. If you have less money, you are considered to be poor. A poor person can work to earn money but not all jobs are about doing a service to the society. There is nothing wrong with that. If we are willing to help the society, we can still do it and we should not expect anything in return.

This looks better than compared to those rich people who don't care about the sake of others. Poor people with a good heart are likely to get lucky someday or a good karma can come with them which will make them wealthy. So I hope they will stay consistent and don't do anything that is evil.

If you don't have money, it means that you arr poor but you can still be rich in knowledge. But if a person is poor money wise, there is still hope that things can still be better with time so it is wrong for us to discriminate people that are broke financially. Since we know that hands turn, a person that is poor today can still be a rich person with time.


There are people that do not have the cash or money to do what they want or buy what they want. They could have landed properties and cultivation that would worth a lot of money. There are even some like when you go to the village that have plenty of lands but do not have the physical cash or wear big clothes or live a luxury lifestyle.

in this world poverty is more often seen as a person's inability from an economic standpoint or you could say a lack of money, but in my opinion poverty is broader meaning not just a lack of money but in this case actually depends on the perspective of each person.
it's simple, in my opinion poverty is a condition where a person is unable to fulfill basic needs for survival such as eating, drinking, shelter and others.
In my opinion, the term poverty is used to support what is called welfare, so that term exists to group a person or group of people who have lower incomes and have difficulty meeting basic needs, so that they can easily get assistance so that they feel well too.

The definition of poverty can vary from person to person. In my personal terms what I think is that where the basic needs of people are being met there is no poverty.
Now coming to your point, the events you describe above have everything but one thing I see missing is treatment. This is also one of the basic human needs. I think that to survive there must be good treatment systems. In the community you are talking about there are other ingredients available for survival, food being one of them. 
Well I wouldn't call them poor in everything but they are perfect in every aspect if they have good medical system.

In my personal opinion I think that the proverty calculate by the situation of economic system. The community you mentioned here is living like a normal community. It should not be compared with the current era. They are surviving well on food alone. But I think the context must be different in other places where the quality of life is better and more economically viable than there. And for all these things, the economy is necessary for them to be self-sufficient, so it cannot be said here that without money, people cannot be called proverty.

Water, food, and shelter are the three most crucial elements for survival. If a person possesses all of these, they are living a life above the poverty line.

How much money a person has in their bank account does not actually define how poor they are. If he can offer three square meals every day, as well as a roof over his head, he should consider himself to be at least somewhat wealthy because he is maintaining a reasonable quality of living.

This is a clear definition of someone being impoverished based on what Oshosondy has said here. If they are powerless to support their family, are unable to eat three square meals a day, depending on others for survival, and appear and dress broken.

Poverty has only one meaning and in the world many people misunderstanding the meaning of the concept. Op has given the real description not poverty. Poverty is when someone has money but it is not sufficient to buy the things he needed. And that is why there is different between poverty and hunger. Poverty has been said, now look at hungry. Hungry is when the person has no money to buy what he wants is called hunger or hungry. So poverty and hunger which look like synonymous but ironically they antonyms. If anyone one is interested to know more the person should go and read the macro economics deficiencies I'm economics.

The poverty is caused by the failed to keep the money for your future on earning.When the government made many schemes for the people poverty reduction.The government executive should check the exact way of making reach to the people.When the people in the full poverty,the government should concentrate of giving basic needs as compared to giving free bees to poor people.

Depends on a certain government whether it would really be that applied correctly on choosing up with those worthy eligible individuals or families which are really that on certain state and not into those people who
arent really that struggling at all. Just like here on my country on where there's a program for poor which they would really be given some monthly budget or allocation on having that financial support or back up.
Although it might not really be that big but still a considerable amount for them to be able to sustain and survive on daily living which it is really just that right that it should be given into that worthy beneficiaries
but we've been seeing that there are users or people who do accept out those monthly allocation or funds despite on having that good financial status or income which it is really not that fair at all.
Government should really be that keen when it comes on checking out those legit beneficiaries.

Whenever governments implement poverty reduction schemes, they must take a multifaceted approach. In order to ensure individuals' well-being and address their immediate needs, it is crucial to provide them with basic needs such as food, protection, medicine, and education. In addition, long-term strategies are also necessary to promote sustainable economic growth, employment, and economic empowerment.

Poverty reduction efforts should include policies that address inequalities, develop skills, provide job opportunities, and distribute resources fairly. Investment in infrastructure, support for small businesses, and social safety nets may be examples of these measures.

Well, I doubt about it, because nobody can produce everything they need by themselves in order to live with quality and welfare. Those communities can grow their own food and have access to clean sources of water, but they still need clothes, accessories, tools, transport and materials in general to build their houses, work on their businesses and move across the regions.

They need money like everyone else. Despite living in a closed community, they are still part of a wider society and a capitalist system which has its survival based on the financial interactions among its components.

You might say they don't use money to trade, but their self-made goods to barter for another goods and I also think it's unrealistic and too romanticized to be true. It's an utopia, as the currently level we are organized as society demands us to use some kind of currency (money) to execute our deals daily.

My family also lives in the countryside, wherewith basic foods like rice or vegetables and poultry, we can be almost self-sufficient for a long time.
But after all, to maintain those things, we also need money, without money, we will not be able to have those things. Indeed, wherever we live in the world today, we still need money, without money, we will never have a full life. When you have enough food on the table, but you don't have other things like a house, car, phone, you can't call it rich. So no money means we are poor.

People may have different ideas about what poverty means, but in my opinion, it is not being able to afford to meet your basic needs, such as food, clothing, and other necessities. Lack of resources to address basic issues As a result, I consider it to be poverty if someone can provide three meals per day and clothing, but lacks the funds to handle potential problems. I don't believe the poverty rate in many countries will be high if poverty is merely defined as the inability to give three meals per day and clothing, as many people are always able to accomplish.

This is indeed not the same because a place or environment can be a very basic influence on everyone, especially for those who have to always buy everything when they need it. Of course it will be very different from those who can still get it for free in the countryside through their own neighbors or grow their own crops for what they often consume daily. So this will obviously never be the same because in urban areas there is absolutely no land to grow crops except for only opening businesses such as shops and also other services such as offices.

In this case I also quite agree with what you say because I also see the difference between those who are poor in rural areas and those who are said to be poor but live in urban areas. And the very basic difference is in their level of income and in the way they meet their needs, because those who live in rural areas can still lead a life with below average income. Meanwhile, those who live in urban areas must always try to earn above average income so that they can be far from difficulties in their lives.

It is extremely upsetting to see instances where folks who are financially secure abuse government assistance programmes meant to help the truly worthy. Such instances discredit the intent behind these programmes and lessen their potential to help individuals who actually need assistance. Governments must carefully assess and confirm the eligibility of beneficiaries to make sure that the aid reaches the intended recipients. To avoid including people or families who do not actually need the assistance stricter measures and rigorous assessments should be put in place. The government can more efficiently allocate resources by using thorough checks and balances helping those who are really struggling and establishing a more equitable system for everyone. Such programmes should continue to prioritise transparency accountability and a dedication to the welfare of society most vulnerable people.

Poverty occurs when a person does not have the bare necessities of life. In today's world, we can give whatever a human needs with the help of science and technology. Assuming we have a policy and a mechanism for fair implementation. Most significantly, it should be protected from the consequences of any exploitation of human greed and fear.

The overview gives such an understanding. In reality things were different and really worse. In my country more than 1.7 million die every year due to poor diet. This means there is a very huge number of people lacking food. It is true, one who have got the ability to fulfil his basic needs can't be considered as poverty. Countries used to hide the poverty rate, fearing it might degrade the country's name. The government that doesn't want its name to be spoilt should take necessary steps and can make zero poverty nation. The hard reality, the politicians does corruption even in those. Poverty doesn't get connected to money directly, but it should also be considered.

Right, but you also need to keep in mind the question or the context which is being used as OP to put this question onto the table.
He is talking about a community where everything to sustain life is available, people have food, water and energy because they work to provide those things to themselves. It is rather a very agricultural setting.

When you involve technology and machines into the equation, then the context changes. Smartphones, vehicles, internet, computers, none of it was initially available in this imaginary town/community. If some outsider moved in and brought a lot of technological equipment to work the land, communicate with the outside world and have more energy and water available for him, then he would rapidly become rich in comparison to his neighbors, which could be categorized as "poor" because they lack the same things he has, even though they could continue to live (assuming the new person won't negatively impact their community with his activities).

Also, people will tend to say that you are not in poverty if you have a house and car, which is part of the middle class, but what the government really says is that as long as you have a job and can eat three times a day, you are not in poverty because you have a house, a source of income, and still can eat well, unless someone skips those meals. Also, it is just a matter of mindset for people, because others will say they are struggling or in poverty even though they have a good job and can still eat well; they are just in debt.

That's because everything that is visible and what has been obtained is because of money, everything now requires money because that's why money is a benchmark, but if we look at the definition of poor, there are actually several groups and even people who have money will be counted as poor if he lives in an environment of people who have more money than him.
But now we think realistically, everything needs money so it's only natural that money is the benchmark, the money that is meant is not what is saved but the money that is earned to be able to fulfill their needs and desires.

Seeing that poverty is not far from their ability to meet the needs of their families, then basic needs are the basis that will place people on the poverty line. When this need cannot be met properly, other needs will definitely not be met properly. So that it will have an impact on their daily journey of life and will also have an impact on other lives in terms of paying for their children's schooling and not being able to provide a decent life for their family.

That is the problem that is happening right now, poverty is indeed based on a number of things that cannot be fulfilled, be it daily needs or a decent place to live. Living in urban areas is much more difficult than living in rural areas because in urban areas everything is expensive, house rent, PDAM water costs, electricity, basic necessities and other costs. So when the income is below the average we get it will be much more difficult to make ends meet in urban areas.

Living in a rural area is much cheaper for daily living expenses, because the cost of renting a house is not that expensive and you can grow your own basic needs in the field using all the available resources. So even if your income is below the average people can survive and try to fit in with all the possibilities that are available.

Your train of thought is wobbly but I get what your saying and I agree, the basic needs should be supplemented by the government especially if the taxes in the state is expensive and everyone is paying, I don't agree with the first part of your statement though, that it's because of the failure to make savings, savings can only be done if your basic salary is enough not just to survive but also gain some freedom, if the money you're earning isn't enough even just to survive then you're going to experience poverty.

In my opinion yes! There's no way one will have everything needed to survive without having money. The three basics need of life i.e food, clothing and shelter require money directly or indirectly. Talking about farming can not justify your assumption. You actually need money in order to practice farming this days. Unless you don't want to farm enough but for self consumption and even aside that, you need to have money for chemicals and seeds.

Poverty itself has classes and from the explanations in your post, anyone in such situations can be refer to be in mini poverty. Regardless, no matter how much you attempt to put it, poverty has to do with lack of resources and you can not have resources unless you have money.

What you say is clear enough because there is no reason for me or anyone to disagree with what you say. This is a fact that no one can avoid because everyone in this world needs the three things you mentioned (clothing, food and shelter). So money is the main thing that must be sought for everyone to be able to fulfill these three needs to make their life feel sufficient and not lacking in anything.

Poverty and wealth actually both have class in this world, but I don't often see the class because I prefer to say it directly to both of them. If it's not poor, it means it's rich. Because of what ? Because people who are poor are people who cannot meet their needs sufficiently in any way, while those who are rich are those who are always able to meet their needs sufficiently even though they do not have a large number of property assets.

Based on this definition,  poverty can not be restricted to the financial wellbeing of a person, it can also boarder around the lack of basic needs such as food, access to education, lack of access of good healthcare etcetera.

I don't know about this,  because how do we explain situations were other people prosper in same conditions of the economy  ??? I know there is generational wealth but these kind of people aren't included in this discussion...

Btw talking of policies to make it conducive for everyone can also lean towards a communist environment, is this were this is going ??

within those persons, you'll still see the wealthy, average and the poor, life has made it so.

A community cannot survive without having each of this set of persons in it.
Poverty isn't limited to financial capacity, they're other basic things in live even though 90% of this things has money to cover up for it.

How can you have all the things you need when you have no money? Even if you are in the countryside you need electricity, phone, and internet… how do you get all this if you don't have money? Food is very important for everyone, but that is not the only factor to say that enough to eat does not mean not being poor. Human needs are huge, if not limitless because our greed is bottomless. But to satisfy all those needs, we all need money, so no money means poverty.

Poverty can be interpreted in many ways. But the basic point is that people are not in poverty if they are able to meet their basic needs. In this perspective many can present various arguments on behalf of it or against it. When talking about poverty, various things we should consider. I agree with you that a man is not poor without money. The example you gave also fine too. But can you tell the approximate average percentage of people who have no money but are not poor. If you talk about considering overall situation I must say that those who have money are not poor and those who don't have money are poor. Because at present money is the only medium in exchange for which you will be able to meet all your needs.

Poverty is the lack of enough resources to sustain one's costs of living in a given country. In addition, poverty is also the lack of any sufficient means of livelihood that may cost the family to not meet their daily/monthly obligations.

There are other countries who are poor but that does not automatically equate to poverty. They may be poor but if they can sustain their lifestyle or eat at least three (3) times a day, then they are not considered in the poverty threshold but they are under the below-average income threshold.

Poor is a subjective term that can be applied to all kinds of aspects. It depends on how you would define poor and how you would apply it. One may be poor with love but have lots of resources; while others may be rich with comfort, but poor with resources.

Honestly, I haven't seen anyone who can survive without money. Even people who are living in the countryside where they will easily get food for life but that does not mean they do not have money. Plant varieties, fertilizers, animal feed, poultry... all the things that farmers need, they need money to get, if there is no money, how can they be obtained? No money these days means you won't be able to survive.

I don't think poverty is the word you're looking for to describe the feeling of having everything and not needing money. You are not poor per se, but you will be when you are put in a place wherein you will be needing your money. I know a lot of people in provinces that are basically self-sustainable in a lot of ways, and I'd trade everything to be self-sufficient and self-sustainable honestly, even if that means I'll be out of money. Why would you be needing any money if you have everything anyway?

Someone with background in finances will tell you that it's a lack of money, someone with a degree in economics will say it's a lack of resources to satisfy basic needs, I say it's lack of knowledge, skill and opportunities.
You don't need money, but you either need skill, so that you can steal or persuade other people to give you what you need, or you need an opportunity.
I've earned a lot of money through an opportunity because someone told me to research bitcoin and I did, got hooked and it became the best investment of my life. I know people who are wealthy because, for instance, they married into a wealthy family - which again is skill and opportunity combined.

Certainly depends on the individual's problem because there are some of them that can still provide up to 3x or even 4x meal per day but don't have any extra funds to provide for their extra needs and there are some as well who are having some struggles to provide their family to at least eat 3x per day. For them, that's already poverty but sometimes, being poor will be an inspiration to get themselves a better situation and be comfortable in life.

It's just that most of their days are not that good or they are not that lucky to find some ways to get themselves comfortable for at least one day because there are other factors as well that hinders them to get up from slums.

Poverty can also include limited access to education, medical care, adequate housing and other resources and opportunities that are considered essential for a life in dignity.  Furthermore, poverty is not just about the material aspect, it can also be about social isolation, lack of job opportunities and exclusion from society.

Poverty is not all about money but power, we begin to talk about this and our thinking begin to coalesce around another dimension of mobility. Poverty exist when people lack the means to satisfy their needs, the identification of the poor first require the determination of what constitutes basic needs.
Poverty is never a condition that concerns only lack of money and resources, it is also multidimensional.
The worst poverty is found when there is lack of education, understanding, fraternity, equality e.t.c.
You can agree with me that poverty is the worst form of violence and there would be a presented opportunity to acknowledge the effort and struggle of people living in poverty and a chance for them to make their concerns heard, it is (poverty) a problem to be worried about in the society.

Don't mistake poverty as lack of money. It's not just money that makes people poor. You don't get anything, that means you're in need. When you're in need, you'll realize that you're in need in every way Again. If you don't have money, poverty will come. If you don't have money, you can't do anything in life. If you like something, you can't buy it, then you will understand your poverty. Many people have hereditary poverty. Because of that he cannot advance his future. He does not apply his right knowledge in the right place that's why he remains poor.

I think your statement above is still relevant if your point of view only understands limited financial resources, I don't think this is enough to fully understand one's poverty status.


Poverty is often defined in relative terms, comparing individuals or communities to the prevailing standard of living in a particular community or area. Even if individuals in an agrarian community met their basic needs without needing money, they might still be considered poor relative to the overall standard of living in more developed or affluent areas. So. The absence of monetary wealth can limit access to opportunities, education, health care, and other resources that contribute to overall well-being and quality of life.


I think the perception of poverty can vary among individuals. Some may feel poor even if their basic needs are met, while others may not consider themselves poor despite their limited financial means.

Even if a person has everything needed to survive without needing money, they may still face limitations in terms of access to opportunities and resources. For example, they may lack educational opportunities, job prospects, social support networks, or the ability to participate fully in society. These factors can affect their overall well-being and quality of life, even if their basic needs are met.

Completely wrong , how can a people not needing money but can have everything to survive? do you have any idea how can this be happening ? even not in fiat form (E.I crypto or gold) still those are considered as wealth so yet not being poor right?

The the main thing about your question is how money means to each person and how this conclude being poverty .

back in the days when everyone is using bartering none of them considered poor unless they own nothing and that is what poverty completely mean for me.

In my Opinion Lack of money is a common misconception about poverty but it also includes other factors. The inability to meet one basic requirements is a common definition of true poverty. Is someone still considered poor if they have all they need to survive without depending on money though? Some rural villages where self sufficiency is the norm and resources are plentiful allow residents to enjoy happy lives free from financial restrictions.

The COVID-19 shutdown demonstrated how some people were resilient and adaptable enough to exist without depending on money. It is encouraging to see people embracing a natural lifestyle and relocating to rural places where they can find peace and contentment. I think the idea of poverty goes beyond material concerns and encompasses a variety of approaches to meet one basic needs.

First of all it depends on how you define poor, there is being poor in monetary terms and then there is being poor in emotional terms. If someone has no family, no friends, no social life then I would also say he has a poor life, even if he is a millionaire. Money doesn't mean everything in life, health and love is more important. Having all the money in the world and being ill where you can't leave the bad, does it really make you rich? Because you can't do anything to enjoy your money. Of course we need money to survive, but that's only the bare minimum. It's not a black and white line where you are either poor or not. I think to not count as poor we need at least enough money to have all the things we need and also some money left to treat us from time to time. This doesn't mean going out for dinner 3 times a week, but rather a vacation from time to time. It's good to calculate a minimum salary we need to survive each month and then everything we can get on top will be a good bonus.

Depends on the situation. I agree that if the taxes are high, then those taxes should be used to provide something to the public, which would mean that there should be no people dying of poverty, I understand they can't live a luxurious life, but the key point here is "dying" of poverty, if someone dies because they were too poor to save themselves, that's the problem of the government, we shouldn't allow something like that, why am I paying taxes if that's still going on.

At the same time, if taxes are not high and it's a liberal nation with low taxes and individualistic on economy, then I could see how government may not be responsible of anyone, because they are not taking much taxes, so why would they be responsible for anything at all.

It depends on the view, someone might say poverty could be when you don't have resources for the most basic - eating, sleeping, drinkable water. I think that poverty starts from some kind of line where you can't provide to have some kind of average life, like the stuff beforementioned and some stuff thought as normal today - having a smartphone, a car or anything making your life not be a struggle for the basic needs which are much bigger than years before. As we evolve in technology, average living standards are raised and more people could be in the poverty range. You have made a good point for mentioning agrarian life(or not using money), but that shows that everything is relative as well. At the end of the day, there is always worse and always better, but basic needs should be fulfilled for every human being.

On other notes, poverty could also be lack of understanding, good will, information, knowledge and education but that is another topic which should also be questioned, especially today.

I believe poverty means you lack all the resources not just money to make yourself profitable. So if you are living in line with poverty, most likely you cannot afford to sustain your life at its best. However, when asked if you have no money but you have all the necessities around you, then you are not living ultimately poor. You just lack some money but when it comes to resources, you have everything you need and that is the most important thing, being satisfied on what you have and don’t look for what you lack.

Poverty is inability to provide or afford your needs, but in this global time I believe that poverty has been eliminated because of internet method of earning money through social media and varieties of technology which is attached to it, so I believe that such kind of poverty where people can not afford three meals a day has gone out, it's no longer into existence.

Well said mate. Money should not be seen as intended for only current reasons but even for future plans and bills. And that’s why we are working so hard so we can provide for our current needs and necessities, and try to save as much as possible so we can also prepare for our future. But if all these things are already on hand, then just work still as there’s more advantage if you have extra money than just having enough money to sustain your needs. Poverty is not just about money matters, if you live with lack of other resources to sustain your future, then  you are still living in poverty.

For some people who live in rural areas, they can indeed use the land they own to be used as agricultural land and livestock as a source of food security, but of course all this cannot meet all their needs. Of course, money can complement it, because in this day and age the barter system using goods is no longer valid because it is quite complicated and not necessarily many people are willing to accept it.
However, someone who doesn't have money isn't necessarily said to be poor as long as he can survive in his own way unless he can't get food and doesn't have anything around him.

how can you have everything you need without money? even every year from that you need to pay taxes, and how to have everything we need if we don't have money ? in general, basic necessities or things that we need will not come directly to someone's house without the effort they put in, and it is all related to money.
Personally, I see that poverty is someone who is unable to meet his own basic needs or even very lacking in meeting his personal needs in a continuous period of time. This has a lot to do with money. With money, people can meet their primary, secondary, and tertiary needs. Therefore, money is very important in overcoming this problem.

I agree with you OP. I am pretty sure most of fellow forum users are living in urban regions so not working and not having any wages basically mean you can't buy products and services provided. So its nearly automatical to be at poverty levels in cities if you don't have money. But village life can differ a lot. Most of people there learn how to produce necessary foods and clothes. Water is like nearly free from rivers and such. But I think second group also has many disadvantages.

But again, in village life, it is still poverty if you can't buy your clothes or, like other foods, rice. Let's say you can't buy rice without money unless you have a rice plantation. If it is only about vegetables, then that is one of your dishes paired with rice, and there is no need to buy it in the market. But right now, those who live in villages are also in poverty and struggling. I've seen a lot of people going to cities and selling some vegetables or their products so that they can earn money and purchase food and basic necessities. They may grow their own food, but not all of it, so they still need money to purchase other things and foods.

In concluding poverty is indeed different for each person. As you said Poverty can not only be measured by lack of money alone. But if we have access to the availability of resources and access to a decent life. then according to you this can not say poor.

However, in my opinion, a person's poverty can be seen from a lack of money that is not enough to meet basic needs, such as food, proper housing, education, health care and so on. What you say is not poor as long as you have sufficient resources even if you don't have money, in some contexts this could be true. For example, a person living in a village with sufficient access to agricultural land, clean water, and other natural resources may not face excessive economic problems. Even though you may have little money, you can still meet their basic needs and live a decent life. But what needs to be underlined in many human cases is that lack of money is the main factor for someone to become poor.

From the economic perspective, poverty simply means not able to afford the common basic needs like food, water and shelter which is very necessary for human survival. And the only way anyone can afford these basic needs is by having a source of income that generates money so when you ask the question is poverty a lack of money, yes poverty is as a result of lack of money to afford common basic needs. But there are broader view on this topic which i don't think is the target of this post.  :)

I think not, if we can get everything we need, of course we are not poor, poor people are people who cannot buy the things they need, the necessities in question are basic needs such as food, electricity, and so on, when I can't buy a new car , apartments, expensive clothes, and so on then I'm not poor because those things are not needed.

That's right, it is impossible to provide yourself with everything you need alone, especially since a person who is already accustomed to the benefits of civilization cannot simply refuse them. Moreover, even the most necessary food should be varied, you need not only rice, but also other products that you will need to buy. Without work, you can achieve how to earn money in the village, but it will not be as easy as it seems and the money will be small. You will either have to earn extra money in the village, or make do with what you have, but these will be restrictions.

Are you sure you don't need a house, car, or expensive clothes?  i don't believe anyone in the world who doesn't need these unless you're very old and don't have much time left to live. most people say they don't need those because they can't afford them.  I have a younger brother, he said he doesn't want to be rich, he just wants enough money to live.  i disagree with what he said because I know that he is having a hard time making money.  if there were a chance to make money, he would never say it.

Not having access to good education, proper and good healthcare, a good living standard, and much other stuff probably falls under the category of poverty. Those who only have their basic needs fulfilled are not out of poverty unless they have access to all the things I've mentioned and many more that a poor cannot have access to, and none of these things can be accessed without money these days, so directly or indirectly, lack of money should be considered poverty.

We can see a lot of people who earn a very minimum wage, but with that wage, they get the basic needs of their household fulfilled, can we say that they are not poor? When someone in their household gets sick, they can't go to a good hospital, their children can't get proper education, why? Because they don't have money and all these things are only accessible if you have money.

when talking about poverty, in general people will look at the ability of people to meet their basic needs, such as food, shelter, education, health care and being able to pay electricity bills. If he has the ability to meet this most basic of needs, then I don't think it's poverty.

So naturally, if you say that you have no money, it doesn't mean that you are poor if their needs are met, especially if you are cultivating your own crops in a rural area. This might make sense, but it is very different if you live in a city where money is everything because everything has to be paid for using money. Besides that, the cost of living in the village and in the city is very much different.

We know the economic status of people in three ways, one is the lower class or the poor, the other is the middle class and the other is the upper class. By low class or poor, we mean those who are daily laborers or van drivers or rickshaw drivers who do not have any land of their own and that means their family depends on their daily earnings, we call them poor families. But those who are engaged in agriculture and who have their own land and spend their life cultivating their own land are not poor in real sense. Because every farmer has cows in his farm and crops in his land then how can they be poor. A farmer not only consumes his own commodities but also sells those commodities in the market a farmer is never poor.

you must be able to distinguish between poverty or those who are financially free and live simply.

i have an uncle who has a life like this ^{(live simply and financially free)}, he already has everything even he has a lot of houses, cars and businesses that run on autopilot, he and his wife choose to live in the suburbs and only once a week go to the city to check on their business.  he once told me why there are still so many people who feel deprived, he answered it's all because of their lifestyle that doesn't suit their opinion and also why there are so many poor people, it's all because they are lazy to think and take risks.

broadly speaking, being poor means "not having money" but in my opinion poor is a "mental problem"

The poorest person is living in poverty. Also, not all poor persons are living in poverty. Why am saying so is because when a person has lost the ability to think creatively to better himself and surrounding, that's poverty of the mind and whatever be the state of the mind is often the state of our physical reality.
Meanwhile being poor can be the absence of resources at the moment, but with a hopeful mind, an open mind, a thinking mind, things can become much better.

Poverty is the lack of money in almost all cases, but lack of creative thoughs, lack of action when the time comes, lack of bravery to face fears also contribute to the poverty quota.

They are still classified as in poverty if their income or minimum wage is only sufficient for the basic needs of their household, but if their income is able to meet more complex basic needs such as food, proper housing, education, access to health services and others, then it is perhaps indicating that they are not poor. Each particular country has government regulations specializing in free medical expenses for the poor so that all the poor will really help with government programs without having to use their savings for treatment in hospitals affiliated with the government.

Well we have different sights about this matter for me living without money is the discription of poor,if you don't have money you also didn't have anything because everything has a price, rice,water,gas,electricity etc.,you need money to buy or pay this important thing to survive, also the important thing is the health many of us didnt know that heath is wealth if you have a lot of money and you also have many chronic sickness you are considered as poor.because even if you have money you cannot enjoy life and you will always go to hospital for the treatment and you money will maybe gone too soon.

We do need money in every move that we  do make or even simply on daily living on which it is true that everything you do use and consume does have its price and there's nothing free on this world.
Poor are considered to those people who doesnt have that sufficient when it comes to these things or even having a hard to achieve 3x meal a day which does signify that you are into this condition.
This is why on the time that you do see yourself to be wise on taking up some decisions on finding another source of income because if you dont then you would really be finding yourself on a very
tough decision on which it would really be just that normal that  you should really be needing to take step or else then you would really be like that forever and this is something that we dont
really like to happen.It is as matter of perseverance on making your life way more better.

Your expansive perspective on poverty paves the way for profound dialogue. Truly, poverty surpasses the lack of funds; it's the incapacity to meet societal living standards. In a world driven by tech, the meaning of 'basic needs' is transforming, introducing a modern form of deprivation. This moves beyond the traditional shortage of sustenance or shelter, to the lack of technology and education.

Still, we must contemplate whether these new 'needs' genuinely enhance life, or just fuel the endless chase for 'more'. Our poverty discourse should investigate both financial and social deprivation, the latter inclusive of education, healthcare, and societal involvement.

Intellectual poverty, as you highlighted, deserves attention. The denial of knowledge and understanding risks spawning an 'intellectually impoverished' class. This unseen poverty form, frequently dismissed, is as harmful to growth as material poverty.

We don't even need to have money for us to enjoy life. There are people in the villages that have properties and do not have physical cash that they can use to procure what they want. Any person that is can work on themselves and look for jobs that will able to foot there bills. Poverty is not a sin, it is tye ability for us to work on ourselves and make life better by gaining skills that we can later use to get the kind of job that we want. Poverty is like a disease that will tell us to improve in anything we are doing so that we can struggle to get a work that will fetch us moeny to feed and pay bills.

Not able to fulfill basic needs is considered poverty. Only having items to survive does not mean that you are out of poverty. Living under the baseline of average income is also considered poverty.
So let me explain it in a bit of detail. So you are living on your own and growing your foods and, let's say, making your own clothes, getting drinking water naturally. Those are the things you need in order to survive, right? So tell me this, what are you going to do when you get sick and needs to see a doctor? Aren't you in need of money here? Also, about education. Lacking the ability to meet the basic needs is the definition of poverty.
To some, not getting anything that is required to survive is considered poverty. Some may see it as a lack of earnings, or not getting the opportunity to make the average income. And there are some people who lack in education, treatment, and food is also considered poverty.
Based on place or people and their needs, poverty has different meaning. So just to say that it is only the lack of money is not acceptable.

Let’s just accept the fact that money will always be a necessity regardless if you have everything you need around. Because even if we are provided all the resources for survival, but if we don’t have good amount of money, then life will still be less fulfilling. Although I can say you’re not living in poverty if you are provided with all the resources in life, but as money becomes an essential these days, then living without it still makes a big difference.

Of course, poor people are generally careful to spend all the money they earn in an effective and minimalist way to survive. For this reason, they stay away from activities in terms of education, social life, health and culture. The main reason for this is that they do not prefer to spend their money on such areas in order to continue their lives.

On the other hand, poverty is also a major obstacle to socializing because the poor who live in a minimalist way continue their lives with very limited or no spending for their habits such as social activities or hobbies.

Also, I think that poverty restricts people both professionally and in business life. In fact, the importance of dressing in various occupational groups or the existence of a certain education level conditions also provide occupational restrictions for poor people.

Well, if there is a rich someone who is willing to pay normal money for you, then you will not be poor at all and poverty is not about you ;) Also, money can be just one of the elements of prosperity and if you have the opportunity to receive goods and services directly without the mediation of money, then you can do without money. However, there will still be some element of artificiality in this, because somewhere in your connection there will still be money, although it will not concern you directly.

And you also will not be considered rich by other people if you can only meet the basic needs to live life, because other people will consider you rich when you are able to get a new car, apartment, expensive clothes, and so on which indeed can also enter into basic needs for some people. For example, like the vehicle and residence that you mentioned, everyone definitely needs a vehicle even though it's not a new one and also a place to live like an apartment even though some people are just more comfortable with owning a house.

This means that vehicles and housing have also become the main things for everyone to live more comfortably, even if you don't consider these two things as the main things because maybe you don't need them now. But someday, you will definitely need your own place to live and your own vehicle when you want to live a better life.

The definition of wealth is identical to what you convey and it is always impossible to calculate one person's wealth against another. I live in a humble neighborhood and most people are considered rich when they own houses, cars and expensive clothes, but when we live in a much more elite environment this wealth is truly priceless compared to what we have. Wealth in my view is the extent to which people can live comfortably, calmly and not get involved in debt everywhere, but when it comes to wealth with money, assets and companies it will be different again.

Others consider wealth to be whatever they own but are not involved in loan debt. For example buying a car, house and others by not having debt. However, people's views will always differ in defining wealth because there is always a comparative value between one person and another.

Vehicles and houses are necessities, everyone needs them now to support work and housing is a place to live that is much needed as a guarantee of a decent life. It's just that the difference between luxury or not can be adjusted to the amount of one's income and most importantly not forced to buy beyond their means.

In a city that all things have to be paid with money, of course, makes us have to have a lot of money, but in my country there are still many places of money, it feels very difficult to find, but almost all the basic needs of life can be easily obtained, for example a farmer who has a rice field and a fish pond, raising a goat Or chicken, almost all the necessities of life for the consumption of vegetables and protein can be met.

Well, I do like to look at things from different spectrums, not just one side of the topic.

You are completely right, we should really focus on separating real needs from other things that aren't obligatory to our existence. Even though most people have some things they 'can't live without' it's not real poverty as those can be looked more as luxury than a need - especially when we have so many different products and modern day addictions today.

I think intellectual poverty can be very dangerous today, from people who just can't obtain education or information to ones who do not want it at all. People are more and more ignorant and do not want to gain knowledge, even if it could open a lot of paths which are now closed. On the other hand, lack of education could make it really hard for living and working in the todays world, which is a catastrophe to those who cannot or will not adapt to modern times.

You have an interesting perspective on poverty. I think poverty is not only about material needs, but also about social and emotional well-being. Some people may have all they need to survive, but they may lack opportunities, education, health care, or human rights.

By poor we basically mean those who do not have wealth, the poor cannot eat properly due to lack of money, they are poor. But nowadays many people are living with poor but lack of poverty despite their money. A poor person can never be happy because he spends his whole life suffering because all his needs are not met. A country's government helps a poor person by distributing various reliefs. But still their lack of poverty does not go away as the lack of either one remains. But I think a person can never be poor when he is full of wealth and money.

When you are poor, you think you are short of money, but that is only what your vision and immediate thinking tell you. In my opinion, lack of money is not what makes you poor, because even if you give some money to the poor to use, they won't know how to use this money well to make themselves rich. Look at reality: there are many people who win the lottery, but how many will have a happy ending when suddenly becoming rich overnight? In the end, the poor are still completely poor. So if you want to really become better and be a rich person, try to change yourself every day, always have a clear goal, and most importantly, have knowledge. People often say, Study, learn more, and learn forever. This is never superfluous because knowledge is limitless, and it will help a lot in changing yourself.

If you do realize that you are poor or do still lack of money then it would really be just that sensible that you would really be finding ways for you to make your life way more better or something that

would really be progressive.It would really be just mattering on a certain individual on how he would really be handling out his/her own life because we know that not all would really be that having that kind of approach and way of thinking on how to make things more better but rather they would really be deciding on being stagnant or non progressive at all.If you are that someone
whose been aware about your financial state then really wants or likes to change up for the better then you would definitely be acting out.

Poverty is a global scale type of problem which cant really be easily be solved out. Popular does continue to grow and things turns out to be more scarce specially on jobs.
Then what would be the result?

The problem with this is, as you said, by returning to yourself, but on the other hand, of course, we also have several other conditions where we are poor and squeezed by economic problems in it. let alone have a different mindset by wanting a better life because in this case those who are deficient only think about how to live and have food for tomorrow so they can survive in life. Even if it sounds stupid not to think about the future, the fact is that they are not unwilling but unable to do so.
And when he is given the opportunity then wrong thinking is indeed the problem because they already want a glamorous life and when they are given money, for example, as you said in the lottery, it is actually used to make their desires come true by doing some ridiculous things just to feel the glamorous life.

Well, poverty is certainly a lack of not just money but also those different resources that an individual needs to survive. Once you find it hard to provide these in your life, I think you are somehow experiencing poverty. But as long as you know how to use your knowledge and take advantage of every opportunity that comes your way, then you can always put poverty into its end. After all, you are the only one responsible for the outcome of your life.

You are not poor if you are sufficient.  Poor means lacking.  Poor is equivalent to poverty where a person is at a disadvantage and lacking in basic needs.  Poverty does not necessarily means a person is lacking money.  Poverty in my opinion is more complex.  We can have money but we don't have access to basic needs, which makes us live in poverty.  It is more in relation to missing something basic that human needs.

I think the factor that makes poverty is that people cannot meet basic needs such as for consumption, life support needs such as electricity, water and so on, if we can get all these basic needs even though we don't have money, of course we are not poor.

Growing rice must have seeds and fertilizer, raising fish and raising goats must also have seeds and food for them, if there is no money, how to provide them with those things? Things have become very different from many years ago. I'm also a country person, this place has all you are talking about, and in times of pandemic, we don't even spend a lot of money and still have enough to eat. But if we maintain it for a long time, we will also be exhausted because we don't have money to buy seeds, food, can't produce more food. So money is really important these days.

Being poor means not being able to afford proper food every day.

In rural areas, people may have access to agricultural produce for their meals. However, it doesn't necessarily guarantee that their nutritional needs are met.

Additionally, having a decent and comfortable home is another factor in determining whether someone is poor or not.

Money exists to make food more abundant and meet basic needs. It also plays a role in ensuring basic necessities are fulfilled.

Without money, it becomes more challenging to meet daily needs. So, if you can live comfortably and contentedly without having money, you are not poor.

The function of money is solely to serve as a tool to fulfill basic needs by purchasing necessary goods when they are not yet owned.

Yes, it is true that many people live in poverty, where the basic standard of living is their top priority. But I think they are too familiar with such a way of life and just let it be as if their life was just like that. Blaming circumstances or society is just negative. Society is inherently unfair, but there are still many people who rely on this inequality to awaken their own capacity to change their lives. In addition, do not constantly think such negative thoughts; try to stop that vicious cycle of thinking in your head. I often tell myself that I don't let things that I can't control control me.

Poverty is the inability to provide yourself money and resources that you need to sustain your life and keep you living. However, know that poverty is not a hindrance to see yourself from going up. As long as you have the life’s strategies and the right attitude that you need to conquer poverty, then you can always take advantage of every opportunity that mostly only rich people gained. But if you chose to stay poor and not taking any progress, then consider yourself living in poverty for long.

 I think I agree with you cause when a person have everything they need and don't require money to buy any other thing they need then they shouldn't be considered poor, cause when you look at it poverty is when you lack the necessities of life, the things you're supposed to have but cannot get them.it mustn't generally be money because back then when their was no fiat currency people trade through barter system to satisfy their needs, let's say for example I have rice but need beans and my neighbour got beans but need rice, we'll have to come to an agreement thereby exchanging the items we've got to satisfy our needs without any use of fiat.

 Poverty is the inability to provide for yourself, okay let's say someone has no  money in their bank account or assets stored in crypto currency but has landed property or other items worth lots of money should they be considered poor? The answer is no so I believe that's answered the question.so OP when one has everything they need to survive and don't need money they shouldn't be considered poor.

It's not always money, it's more of opportunity, when people don't even have the opportunity to make money or to put food on the table, (like it's impossible to get a job) then the people has fallen to poverty. If you still have farm, then you still have opportunity to fill your needs.

Thanks to those that are raising the standards for even the easiest jobs in town. But this is true that lack of opportunity makes more people poorer as there's a limited opportunity that can't be taken by those that are in need to work and that's why we see the results of it as badly and negative as it can be.

Right, you can plant on your farm and have it on the right season to harvest and sell it to have money and at the same time, your needs can be planted there as well.

Rural people have one advantage - they grow what is critically important to man - food. And that means they can simply support themselves. And by selling surplus food, which always has a demand and consumers, they can provide a full cycle of cultivation\sowing\....

That's one side of it. The second side is very hard work!  VERY ! HARD! LABOUR!
I have relatives who are engaged in farming. And I personally observe it all, and I'll be honest - I probably could not work like that ! Yes they make good money, but it's still very hard money ! But at the same time I want to add - not all farmers have a good income. Some really work on the verge of profitability, and in fact only provide themselves with food and some income to cover basic needs ...

Not having money to buy what you need is call poverty, reason? Is because it feels bad when you don't have the money to buy what you neee/want people will mock at you and that makes poverty increase if you don't do anything about it, having what you need to eat all the time is called survival, why? Not having the time to buy flashing thing and designers clothes but concentrate on your belly alone.

Poor visually can be interpreted in all forms in living it. But what efforts do we need to raise and do so that this status does not stick in ourselves and our families. This means that it is necessary to find a way out of the problem. If only waiting for help from others with the assumption that I can't afford it. it just says we are weak.

The way out or the solution is of course not that easy because if it were easy I don't think anyone would be poor,
because basically poverty occurs because of the complexity of the problems that occur,
it needs more effort and definitely needs government support by making the right policies.

Many countries experience inflation because the amount of money is more or out of control while goods become scarce, as happened in a country that experienced uncontrolled inflation such as Zimbabwe where the price of basic necessities reached thousands of percent, this is because there is no supply of goods so even though we have a lot of money we cannot buy anything or the value of money is very low.

for me personally ? i am not seeing that not having money is what poverty means instead ?
being now friends and family is the true meaning of poverty because we can live without money as long as we can find food to eat ,
 but if you are rich but alone? or no one loves you truly then that is for me being poor.
but all in all either to have lots of money or lots of friends and family ? the most important thing is our heart because everything is
 nothing if our heart is filled with greed and negativities .
and also one of the best important thing in this matter is how we will manage to have bitcoin in our hands before it totally bloomed because
for sure you will regret not having this while it is cheap as the price like today.

Only the desire to change something is not enough, in order to change something in life you need to do something, sometimes for this you need to make difficult decisions and work a lot. But sometimes circumstances are more powerful than a person’s will, and no matter how we discuss here that everything can be fixed, there are situations that put a person in a hopeless situation. I still believe that any situation can be corrected, but none of us knows how to behave if we get into a really difficult situation.

When there is no supply of a product, the demand for that product will increase drastically. In the language of economics, if the supply is less than the demand, there will naturally be a huge increase in the price of the product. Moreover, every country is under the grip of inflation as a result of Ukraine Russia war. Many countries have failed to regulate it. For the consequence of this even with more money, it has become difficult to meet the basic needs. If you think about it from that perspective,yes poverty is not only caused by lack of money.

A shortage of supply of a product can cause scarcity so that the price of the item/product rises uncontrollably, that's how the process of demand and supply occurs. Poverty is caused by many factors and indeed poverty is always termed as a lack of money in meeting the necessities of life. But when you are in a state of war, poverty is seen as much more than that, having a lot of money and not being able to shop for necessities because of the lack of supply caused by the war also affects circulation.

In the end money is worthless in these conditions because the security system cannot guarantee people to live as usual. However, in more general terms, poverty is still seen from a lack of money to meet the necessities of life and money plays a much bigger role in the problems of daily living needs.

Poverty is not all about money. The value of money is mostly seen in its purchasing power and when people can buy anything they want with money they will confirm that they are rich. When one does not have the purchasing power they will assume that they are poor.
Poverty can be of mentality.
Poverty can also be of altitude.
Poverty can of mindset
Poverty can be in a particular situation.
When you have all you need, you do not need money anymore. But the situation is rare to be. So, even when you have your needs you still need money because human want is insatiable.

In some part of the world poverty is linked with the money. This is why lack of money is mentioned as poverty. For example one who wasn't able to make atleast $30 is poverty. Some state the person who doesn't get the proper nutrients and doesn't have three meals a day are in poverty. Through different data, poverty will be mentioned. Even the ongoing inflation around the world push people into poverty. These news won't come out much, because the governments will be dethroned. It is the government's responsibility to give its citizens the security of living. This means unlike the changing scenario around the world the people should continue to live at their comfort.

Poverty cannot be eliminated completely and can only be brought down but that is not an easy task either,
poverty is a structural problem and the government does need to make the right policy,
What is clear is that poverty is not just about a lack of money.

Poverty can be defined as a lack of resources that are necessary to meet basic needs, including food, shelter, clothing and healthcare. Money is certainly an important resource that can help alleviate poverty, it is not the only factor that causes poverty. Lack of access to education, limited job opportunities, discrimination, and social exclusion can create a cycle of poverty, that is difficult to control even with access to financial resources. Poverty is a complex issue that affects different groups of people in different ways like systematic barriers and discrimination.

But with a lay man understanding a poverty is a lack of money and it's not something we can argue, because you have said it all that when you lack finance to afford your needs is something you know that poverty is a lack of money, and poverty have Categories which when you some people you may not know they are poor because they are feeding but they don't afford any other things they need, so poverty have stage1 and stage2 and it on moving, but the normal definition of poverty is when you can't afford three square meals a day by yourself its what is called a poverty

Poverty can also be referred to as a community. Let's say there are not enough facilities like hospitals, fire stations, or businesses in the area that meet the basic needs of the people. Aside from money, if you don't have clean water resources and are lacking in food, it is also poverty. There are communities that are only relying on their crops and water, and they are not into money unless they go to the cities, but for their day-to-day needs, they grow their own food.

The classic concept of poverty has not changed, and I just tried to clarify what this concept might include, especially since we live in economic systems that tolerate three classes (the rich, the poor, and the middle class). The middle class is usually the largest and imagines that it is closer to the class at the top, but the concept of poverty in fact includes it as well.
The inability to achieve three meals a day may be what we know about the poor class, but the middle class that is able to achieve only two meals a day is also somewhat poor and can be included in "stage 2".

Whatever you say, you need money. In this world, you cannot live without money. If you do, you need help from others, as homeless people need help. If you have a farm, you need to buy seeds or some kind of other things that are necessary for farming. You cannot make sugar, salt or oil out of nature. Let's say you can make some of them. But you won't be able to make all of them. You won't find all the resources to produce all the products you may need.

There are many ordinary people who live by hiding from people they do not express poverty. But from their family's money to their family's every aspect of the world, there is a lack of them, they keep it to the people, but they are completely poor from within. A poor person's family is always starving because they don't have the necessary money, food, medicine, etc. and their lives are very miserable. If poor people had money they could move their lives forward. But a poor person never lives a happy life since they get nothing from wealth. Rather, they cut themselves off from everything and do daily wage work to run their families and advance their lives, that is poverty.

Indeed, money is not everything, but everything needs money, so it is impossible to live without money,
I think we have to be realistic and think that being without money is weird,
we live in an era where buying and selling requires money, not in ancient times which used the exchange method.

Money is indeed the benchmark for everything at this time and it is true that we will be considered poor if we do not have money.
So it's only natural that at this time everyone is flocking to make as much money as possible, that is in general, even though I'm sure there are corners in this world that don't need money, they only live from natural products without any transactions.

money is the fulfillment of needs for human survival even though a farmer has enough crops to eat, many other needs must use money to fulfill them. therefore many say that humans need one another, and to assess that need is manifested in the form of a sum of money. especially to live in a city where everything seems to be measured using money, so humans need to earn money to be able to maintain their lives. fortunately humans are created with different skills, so that they can complement each other, so that the wheels of the economy turn around, and becomes a difficult condition if someone does not have expertise

The fact that 90% of things you will do in the world today need money to be done means that whatever you have today, you will still need more money. You can see that any position you reach in the world today must be done with money. So now I don't really understand what you meant by when you have everything you need and you don't require money to buy anything, mate goals never finish. I hope you know that. The more money comes into your hand, the more you create problems for yourself. I hope you don't forget that one.
 
People who live in a community and have access to everything they need, however, cannot be classified as being poor. Given that I define someone as being poor as having no access to clean water to drink, a place to sleep, or any of the other necessities of life, and as someone who constantly needs to hustle food and other necessities to meet daily needs, it is clear that these individuals are suffering. We can therefore argue that they are impoverished, but how can we say that someone who possesses everything is poor once more?

Poverty can means lack of money but it is not the only reason why poverty occurs. Poverty is often intergenerational, meaning that it can be passed down from one generation to the next, perpetuating cycles of disadvantage. Poverty can also be  caused by systematic factors such as discrimination, inequality and limited opportunities. It is important to address poverty through a multifaceted approach that addresses both the root causes and the symptoms of poverty. This may involve policies and programs that promote economic growth, education, healthcare and social welfare. It may also involve addressing systematic issues such as discrimination and inequality.

Poverty is not only related to lack of money. Although lack of money is one of the factors often associated with poverty, the definition of poverty involves much more than financial aspects. Poverty also includes the inability to meet basic needs such as food, clean water, adequate housing, education, access to health services, and fair economic opportunities. Therefore, if a person has everything needed to survive without needing money, but does not fulfill these essential aspects, they can still be considered poor.

But if you have money, meeting the basic needs of life is not too difficult. In today's society, as long as you have money, you can buy everything in this world, money is considered the measure of everything, so it is not wrong to say that no money is poor.

To be honest, I have never seen anyone get everything they need without money, even in remote rural areas, you need money to sustain life. Things have changed significantly, unlike in previous years when you could sustain your life by raising cattle and farming. Without money, you can't raise livestock and grow crops these days.

The poor do not have the priveledges and opportunities as they are lacking of money. They don't have the chance to increase those in terms of we are saying, investments?. No one of their goals first is to survive on a daily basis, even though they want to make their life increase because of this opportunity some of them are afraid to take a risk because there's no assurance on their thinking that they could earn this, they are getting practical I feel that's the exact word. But if they have the capability to survive and want to take risk more in life because they have more asset they will grab the opportunity because at the end, they can still manage but the poor ones does not have an options.

hello there baby doll baby cakes,

poverty, more than anything is a mindset.

It is not a lack of money, that is just the outcome of an resourceful psychological state. 

There are exceptions in areas of the world with a fundamental lack of resources, that is a different conversation.

But if you read this you have access to the resources you need.

The rest happens in your mind.

Well this is my view on the topic. Poverty is a complex issue that affects people's lives on various levels: social, political, and as a concept. Let's break it down in simple spoken language.

Socially, poverty means not having enough money to meet basic needs. It means struggling to afford food, clothing, and shelter. People living in poverty often face difficulties accessing education, healthcare, and other essential services. It can lead to feelings of insecurity, inequality, and exclusion from society. Poverty can limit opportunities and perpetuate a cycle of disadvantage, making it hard for individuals and families to improve their lives.

Politically, poverty relates to the distribution of resources and power in a society. It raises questions about fairness and social justice. Poverty highlights the need for policies and systems that address inequality, provide support to those in need, and create opportunities for economic mobility. Governments play a crucial role in developing strategies and programs to alleviate poverty, ensuring that everyone has access to a decent standard of living.

On a conceptual level, poverty is a measure of material deprivation and lack of resources. It is often measured through income levels, but it goes beyond just money. Poverty can also encompass limited access to education, healthcare, clean water, and sanitation. It is about not having the means to live a dignified life and participate fully in society. Understanding poverty as a concept helps us recognize the broader structural factors that contribute to its existence and work towards systemic change.

Overall, poverty is not just about being poor in terms of money. It encompasses social exclusion, limited opportunities, and the need for political action to address inequality and create a fairer society. It is a multifaceted issue that requires collective efforts to tackle and ensure that everyone has the chance to thrive.

Please feel free to challenge but this is how I would summarize poverty.

Poverty can exist in any form, we need to check and examine ourselves to know the areas of life we are lacking behind, we can work on the things causing such setback and see the desired change we want, we can say that poverty is also when you're been silenced in the society and in your career or professional engagement, whereby your voice is not heard and you're not being fulfilled to carry your heart desired endeavors.

Honestly if you differentiate the situation of the people in the cities and provinces, poverty might have a new meaning to it. If you don't have money in cities, you can't buy foods and any other basic needs. In some provinces, as long as you have rich soil, with different crops and veggies, together with river with fishes, you can eat. They don't have money but are they consider to be in poverty if they can survive everyday life?

Not being unable to meet one's fundamental needs such as for food, shelter, and clothing is poverty. Poverty comes in many forms. Even if one's fundamental requirements are satisfied without the need for money, poverty may still exist due to lack of access to chances for personal and economic development, healthcare, and education, among other things.


As location, finances, and personal circumstances all differ widely, it may not be possible for everyone to thrive in a self-sustaining society.

Indeed, money is one important aspect in maintaining survival. However, to measure poverty is not only seen from the financial side, but other main aspects such as education, access to health services. Even in rural areas, although people seem to live a poor life because maybe their houses are slums, behind that they sometimes have large gardens and large savings and even all other basic needs are met, such as clean water, food, education and access to good health services.

Exactly bro, because the lifestyle from the urban and provinces have a huge differences when it comes to providing their needs. In urban almost $100 wouldn't even last long at a week since there's a lot of needs you'll have to think about especially the price range. Since the products mostly food are from provinces imported to cities which they can add an interest for them to profit. While for the rural, it's the sources of foods which can be cheap if you buy directly at them. Plus they are already contented with their way of living as long as they can provide foods at their plate. OF course some of them have a bigger dream causes them to go at cities to find a huge opportunity in life like corporate industry.

This is the need to live in society. sometimes if we are weak on one side there are still our neighbors who want to lend a hand to help, the help doesn't only have to be money, if money alone it only lasts for a while.

In a society, their connectivity is certainly different and sometimes one of them is able to facilitate this condition until the exposed individual has a job that is deemed appropriate and according to the individual's level of ability (Level of education).

It is not all about food but also shelter and education. Let's say they have a house but don't own it or have access to education. Yes, yes they can survive on a daily basis in terms of food, but how about clothing? the education? Are they going to school? Also other basic needs like pens, paper, and other stuff that is used in the home. Poverty is really a broad term, but it is really different in provinces and cities because you'll die in cities if you don't have money, unlike in provinces where you can pick some vegetables beside the road.

Obviously poverty has a broad meaning, but if we compare poverty in the city and poverty in the village, I would say that poverty can be reduced because the village relies more on natural products. I would emphasize primary needs here, which include food, clothing and shelter as well as education.
But in education I think we can still get it as long as there is a will, because the government is now making many policies that make it easier for someone to access education. However, if a person does not have the drive within himself, he will not use the programs carried out by the government.

Poverty is often associated with a lack of financial resources, but it can also be defined as the inability to meet basic needs. If individuals have access to all the necessary resources for survival, such as food, water, and shelter, without requiring money, they may not be considered poor in a material sense. However, poverty can encompass other aspects such as limited access to education, healthcare, and opportunities for social and economic advancement, which may still affect individuals even in self-sustaining communities.

based on mathematical calculations, each region has its own income level limit. whether in the city or in the village will have a nominally different level of basic needs. People are said to be poor if their income is below the regional income standard, so it is difficult to meet their needs in the area where they live. for example in the village, indeed they do not lack food, but we can calculate their income from the profit of each harvest, so that it is at that level, because the necessities of life are not only food that they can produce themselves, but there are many other needs which of course must be met. fulfill it must be exchanged for a certain amount of money

Poverty does have a broad meaning and each region has its own classification in assessing poverty, of course it is a different matter when comparing people who are called poor in the city and people who are called poor in the province but we can draw both of them into one direction as unable to fulfill all their basic needs, for example in terms of food, more or less they will definitely get food and in fact the poor in cities can still live as well as in the provinces, in education it is the same, because if the government has a free education program it can be accessed even with general education intake, so the poor can only fulfill their primary needs with the money they have, and even then they are still lacking both in cities and in provinces.

I completely agree with you that poverty cannot be solely defined by the lack of money. It is more about inability to meet one's basic needs which can vary depending on the circumstances. As you mentioned some people who live in agrarian communities may not need money to survive because they have everything that they need available to them. To be able to survive everyone should work and earn money to be able to sustain their financial needs. I know that everyone will do any job just to survive poverty.

The term poverty is very subjective, so it will depend on how you examine the situation, a person is not necessarily classified as poor for not having money or for not being able to meet their daily needs, there is also the position in which they cannot have access to Fundamental things such as studying, a decent home to live in or to be able to maintain their health, those types of comforts and privileges that others with a better economic status have. Now, if you already have all these benefits and money is not considered an obstacle to living in a calm and complete way, it seems to me that you are not a person who can be considered poor, since you feel satisfied with what you have. And he has the necessary tools to survive.

The problem that often occurs when talking about poverty is when it is treated slightly differently.
Actually, things like this are common knowledge if you look at some conditions where people who are in a lower standard of living are treated a lot differently and this almost covers all points not only about attitudes but sometimes to facilities.
In addition, I don't know what it is like in other countries but looking at the conditions and examples for my own country there are a lot of policies that should benefit the poor such as some assistance in the form of food or money instead of things like this that make this a big question because some unscrupulous officials who act like mafia with almost related networks cut the existing budget which makes this even more difficult when talking about poverty.

We can say that poverty refers to lack of money, We can consider weather individual are able to full fill their basic needs or not. If He/she are able to full fill their family's basic needs then we cannot consider them under poverty level. Poverty is said to exist when people lack the means to satisfy their basic needs. There are several things to determine poverty like poor education, unemployment, over population etc. We can reduce poverty with Productivity and incomes from occupations and livelihoods are important factors for reducing poverty. Social conditions such as health, nutrition, education and housing influence productivity, thus affecting poverty status.

That's true if a number of things are fulfilled, such as having a place to live (a house), access to education, health and daily basic needs, then the social status can be said to be not poor. Conversely, if access to these things is not fulfilled, a social gap will be created which will end up in poverty. In a broader definition of poverty, money plays an important role to improve social status and can provide access to opportunities and can be used for self-development.

I think even though poverty is often generalized by not having money. There are several other factors such as not having access to education, health, and business opportunities which can also be called poverty. By managing finances well and working hard, we can avoid poverty, of course it's not easy, but it's an obligation for every individual to improve the standard of living in society.

Poverty is a problem that is so complex that sometimes we only focus on economic deficiencies,
be it education, health and others it must also be considered,
the government really needs to make an appropriate policy or program and support is also needed to at least reduce poverty.

This is like unraveling tangled threads, not to mention there is assistance, for example in my country where the data was incorrect, the correct quota for A can be shifted to another. Strange, indeed. But, that's the general condition. I think the government also has a heart for the people so that this can be handled properly and wisely. It is the person who causes this to be off target.

Its not merely a monetary issue, but rather one of access to the possibilities, health, and education that such funds make possible. No matter how hard people try, they wont get very far without these

Its true that working hard and being responsible with money can help people get out of poverty, but calling it a "obligation" is a bit much. Problems at this level are systemic. It is the responsibility of all members of society to ensure that everyone has access to quality education, healthcare, and opportunity. Therefore, it is not enough for individuals to make an attempt; collective action is required. Responsibility, not fault, is at issue here. I've witnessed firsthand the wonder of human resiliency and the dissonance of cultural norms. It certainly provokes some deep consideration

I believe that poverty is one of the most controversial issues. The fact is that there is a dilemma about who would you give a million dollars to: to a thousand poor strangers or to one native person? There is no right answer to such a question. My friend crypto millionaire likes to serve to the poor. And I think it's not right. I immediately remember the saying: do not give the poor a fish, but teach him to fish, because then he will be full all his life.

I think this will be too far and may come out of the context of the actual discussion, but yes it affects poverty on poverty in the area, and may be worse because of the cheating games of the officials.


Actually, at the beginning it was mentioned about poverty that is a shortage of money or not? of course not, because this can be seen from various sides, and if this is viewed subjectively, that person can say that I am not poor because I can still live to this day and do not feel lacking even though we can see from the outside that he has many shortcomings.
And if seen objectively like the points you mentioned, of course not wrong either because it is standardization in assessing poverty in someone.

This!! poverty is the is having no access on the mentioned examples such as health, food and education the basic needs of the person if they can't provide it then they could be consider as poor which is poverty. Of course sometimes it depends on the person itself if he's gonna exert effort for them to provide those needs. By doing work, investing or any activities that could help them even the bad ones. Still despite those efforts it's still depends on the country, if the country's governance doesn't even care on the society's issue such as the inflation that affects them. Then literally people couldn't do a thing about the poverty they'll be facing. Because I'll be honest my country is corrupt can't even do a thing about poverty.


Well there's nothing wrong on our every perspective or answer in this kind of issues. You do have a point that teaching them is a good thing for them to learn how to survive. But the thing is despite the education if you really felt your life is miserable, some of them wouldn't even feel motivated to change their life. Let's be honest here, most who feel poverty are the one who's not blind into the reality. So for them they don't need to exhaust themselves when there's a triangle the ranking of rich to poor, and they are at below of the ranking. They would just accept that fate.

Some people do rely on money to get something, but for those of us who live in rural areas not all needs have to rely on money because some of their farmers can produce daily necessities without having to buy something, so poverty cannot be measured from money because many rich people already have everything but happiness they cannot feel and their lives are far from poor, Then we cannot measure poverty because of money.

In life to me when it comes to money, we have 4 categories of people. They are:
👉The poor
👉The average people
👉The rich
👉The extremely- rich

🧠🧠The poor are the people who hardly can feed themselves. They have children but can't sent them to school nor cater for their health.
🧠🧠A man that can feed himself and his family with their three daily meals and have everything to survive isn't poor or rich. He's just an average man. This is because he doesn't have excess. He only has what is needed to take care of himself and his family.
🧠🧠A man with excess things is the one to be regarded has being rich. After everything you need to survive, you still have more and more to cater for numerous people, then you are rich.
🧠🧠Lastly, we have some that are extremely- rich. The money they have can provide all basic needs for their generations even if those generations decide not to work. This type of people are extremely- rich.

CONCLUSION
Poverty as you have said earlier is the inability to provide for your basc needs. When you hardly can feed yourself not to talk of your relatives. Immediately you can provide for your basic needs then you aren't poor.

The farmer will still not be able to provide himself with everything he needs, he will need to buy food that he does not grow himself, because it is impossible to grow everything on his own. A modern person gets used to the comfort when you can come to the supermarket and buy everything you need in one place, we get used to it and it becomes difficult to do without it. Working on a farm is hard work, not everyone is able to endure it, for some it is freedom, but there are not many such people in the modern world.

Yes, that what I was trying to said earlier. Poverty is not only consider when individua have no money but ''there are several other factors such as not having access to education, health, and business opportunities which can also be called poverty''. There are several types of poverty in society one when individual are unable to buy the basic necessities of life and cannot give them quality of life which are otherwise considered normal in a society. And in other hand Absolute poverty refers to the situation where a person’s total earnings are not enough to afford basic material for family's needs.

Poverty was born out of a currency-based society, you're basically talking about people who are well-off to provide for themselves, which ironically was still achieved through surprise-surprise, purchase of land for your agrarian argument, and whatever leverage for everything else. Now you might be asking, what of the people who moved to rural areas then? Well they moved cause stuff was cheaper in the countryside, and that once again, was brought about by the argument of money. Funny how you mentioned the COVID-19 Pandemic too, cause that's basically what poor people had to live with for most of their lives, not being able to buy anything and go anywhere, stuck in their dilapidated houses cause they're either unemployed, laid-off, or they couldn't acquire employment for whatever reason. You only think they are able to get by because everyone's in the same boat but honestly speaking, especially in the Philippines the poor people during the pandemic had it worse.

it's fine to think that people could live without money, however, be careful not to discredit the struggles that people who live in poverty face on a daily basis all so you could prove that "poverty is not just about money".

True, financial success is not everything. A lot of folks are happier living off the grid and with little amenities. In a way, it's like returning to our origin. Not all is rosy, though. One cannot cultivate or manufacture all things. You'll need either a lot of cash or a really effective trading strategy to accomplish it.

Some city dwellers may long for a more rural existence, one with less noise and more peace. In any case, let's be sincere: it's not easy! Some people just don't have what it takes. Picture yourself chasing after chickens all day instead of picking some up at the supermarket. Sure, perspective is crucial, but that's up to you. While for some it's a liberating experience, for others it's a draining one. What is liberty to one is imprisonment to another.

Farming is still a business that you need to run to gain profit, and it's not about having to eat your own crops. Before, farming was really profitable, mostly if you owned huge land, but because fertilizer got expensive, their profit was not enough. Even right now, farmers are telling their children that they don't want to inherit it because it's hard and also not profitable, which is why others are going to the city to find jobs and be able to provide for their families.

Doesn’t seem like right to say it but in the modern age, having no money is definitely sign of poverty. Things are so costly that you can’t keep up with the basic needs also. The food and water which should have been the easy to get stuff is now on the shelves costing 5-10x higher than the base price. In the name of quality and brands we eat food at higher rates.

Why? Because wealthy people have no issue buying it because they can afford it and they are rich because they have money. If you just compare above statement with the definition of poverty then you got my point. Sad but true.

Poverty depends on its perspective.

The inability to help yourself in a needed situation is as poor of poverty.

The state of incompetent to tackle your challenges is as poor of poverty.

An ignorantic manner is as poor of poverty.

Your position of low less ness is as poor of poverty.

The level of your lack of knowledge is as poor of poverty and  the height of your lack to fit in to purchase a primary or essential need is as being poor of poverty.

While you are indeed right about that, there is nothing wrong with what your friend is trying to do because serving the poor literally much better than doing nothing, the fact that he is a millionaire doesn't mean that he's the only one that is entitled to help the poor because you too mate have the power to help them. You might not have the resources to help them financially but I'm quite sure that you can teach them how to fish, right?

I fully agree with you about when you do not have money that's poverty and not being able to afford basic needs is still poverty the problem now is majority of the world population are broke, man and can not afford to feed, and getting a job and after getting the job the earn can not keep up with the bill, they just made the world more difficult since everything is just too expensive, things will not get better am sure of that.

Yes, that's why I often give advice on the forum in the category of Beginners and Help :)

I don't mind sharing with the poor, because everyone who has ever been hungry knows this feeling very well, and has a strong empathy for those who are not particularly lucky in life. Nevertheless, help is available only to those who want to be helped themselves. The world is full of those who themselves have become hostages of alcohol, drugs, gambling addictions. And it is very difficult to help such people, it is almost impossible. At the same time, there are many gifted guys who, like uncut diamonds, have great motivation and potential.

People themselves are the ones who are creating up their fate on which if they wont act and do hard work then there would be no progress on their life on which it would really be that understandable on such situation on

which there would be no upgrade or big changes and they would really remain the same.Its true that to those people who are really that financially stable or something that you could put yourself into those individuals who could afford on buying everything or something in between then its up to them whether they would really get pity into those people who are struggling on daily living.Yes, we could provide out some help but not into the point that we would really be making them lazy.Im not saying that they are really that all lazy but most of them are really that having behavior and this is why they wont really be having progress.

I have seen some of known person in the community on which they had been having a life on struggles but ending up on a few years on having their own house and having their own car.
Why? they have able to make out some investment and wise decisions on how they would really be stirring up their life decisions engaging into something more worth.

In today's world, if you don't have money then you will be at a lot of disadvantage.

Let me give you one example. You maybe having everything that you need for your daily existence. But what will happen, if you need to deal with some emergency situation? For example, a natural catastrophe occurred and your house was destroyed. Without money, how you are going to rebuild your house? Or let's take the example of some medical issues. Suppose you got diagnosed with stage II cancer. Without the money, how you are going to afford the medicines, and complicated medical procedures such as chemotherapy or radiation therapy?

According to my understanding, having what you need but no money does not make you poor because you have food and other necessities; rather, the term "poor" refers to someone who has nothing, as in when there is nothing to eat and nothing available for purchase. When this occurs, the process can be tedious and there are some things that money can do in some situations, so you won't be okay if you don't have any. So what I'm trying to convey is that even though you may not have enough money, you are not poor and having money is crucial to maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

Even though you can't buy happiness, I think having money can be useful at times. I also think that areas where you see people who appear to have everything they need and are content need money because they could want to purchase what they previously lacked.

Poverty is characterised by a lack of money or financial resources. Poverty is about more than just a shortage of funds though, it often involves inadequate access to basic necessities such as food, shelter, healthcare, education & opportunities for economic advancement. Poverty can also involve factors like social exclusion, limited social support networks & systemic inequalities that contribute to individuals & communities being trapped in a cycle of deprivation & disadvantage.

Poverty is relative. That is, it depends on the lifestyle of individuals in a particular society. Because, the standard of living in all societies is not the same. If there is a difference between what a person needs and what he has, then that condition is called poverty. The impact of poverty is especially high in rural communities. For example –
 1. Increase in illiteracy
 2. Increase in the number of child labourers
 3. Increase in unemployment
 4. Increasing number of women trafficked
 5. Increasing trend of rural crime
 6. Development is disrupted
 7. Increase in the number of migrant workers
 8. Increase in health problems
 9. Degradation of morality
 10. Inability to maintain a minimum standard of living
The rural population is almost entirely dependent on agriculture; As a result, the possibility of creating alternative employment opportunities is very low. That is, rural poverty simultaneously creates many social problems.

Poverty is when you don't have enough resources to provide for your family and yourself the basic necessities of life like; food, shelter, health etc.
In today's world, you should have enough amount of money to survive.

For food production, you need good equipment and fertilizer to get more production, water pump and electricity usage, all these things need money. If you don't have money, you can't get any of these things. Money can get you the things that you want/need.