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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Charles-Tim on June 19, 2023, 11:02:59 AM



Title: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 19, 2023, 11:02:59 AM
I saw the two sites on this thread: Btc accelerator sites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448903.msg62427449#msg62427449). Posted by: anubizz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=356174), which might later get my red trust if those sites are scam sites.


The best would be from a mining pool operators confirming this.

If no solid evidence to prove the legitimacy of these two paid accelerators, no one should use both of them if you want to avoid scam.

The first: Free and Paid service.

https://www.bitcoinjumper[dot]com/

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Paid Accelerate:
With paid submission your transaction will be manually added to be confirmed by one of our partner mining nodes. The fee for this special inclusion into one of the next blocks means you'll need to pay above the current miner processing rate for BTC/kB. This miner fee is automatically calculated for you to make sure you only pay what is needed.

The site also offer free accelerator, but obviously it can not work, just like other accelerators that should be avoided as they are doing nothing than rebroadcasting the transaction:

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Free Accelerate:
With free submission you only need to submit it once and our app will resubmit your transaction every 15 minutes to the broadcast nodes automatically until confirmed. This is what makes our free BTC accelerator so powerful and user friendly.


The Second: Paid service.

https://btcnitro[dot]com/

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Paid Accelerator:
Bitcoin transaction stuck or slow waiting for confirmation? This can happen with the network is very busy or if you used a low mining fee.

BTC Nitro sends your transaction to our network of mining partners who will include it in the next block they mine.


I too or anyone can come up with such idea and use it to scam people. Are they not scam sites? The bitcoin transaction accelerators that we should believe are the ones owned by mining pool like ViaBTC accelerator (https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/).


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 19, 2023, 11:20:45 AM
I like how you separated the urls with "[dot]com/" 😊.

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he site also offer free accelerator, but obviously it can not work
The free accelerator is a bait, nothing else.

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I too or anyone can come up with such idea and use it to scam people. Are they not scam sites?
You will be scammed when you will go for the paid service. They will just take the money you sent.

The bitcoin transaction accelerators that we should believe are the ones owned by mining pool like ViaBTC accelerator (https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/).
So for viabtc is the best accelerator service I have used. Even with their free service you can easily get your transactions confirmed 90+% times.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 19, 2023, 11:38:56 AM
So for viabtc is the best accelerator service I have used. Even with their free service you can easily get your transactions confirmed 90+% times.
Even 100% times if the transaction has not be confirmed and ViaBTC mine a block after the txid has been submitted.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: YOSHIE on June 19, 2023, 03:53:56 PM
If no solid evidence to prove the legitimacy of these two paid accelerators, no one should use both of them if you want to avoid scam.
Recently I have also seen the bitcoinjumper.com site, had a problem with one of the members here, to be precise the incident occurred on June 17, 2023.

bitcoinjumper.com Bitcoin Transaction Accelerator is scam do not use this fake service

It seems, anyone should be careful using the bitcoinjumper.com service, to prevent losses and avoid fraud and so on, it seems that it is a legitimate warning about a scam.



For the BTCNitro site, it seems suspicious too, they have a thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288307.0, what is fishy to me for a BTCNitro service site, is what @SFR10 suggested, they didn't heed it, they posted something else.

Looks like BTCNitro, also a service to watch out for, before any trouble.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: anubizz on June 19, 2023, 04:03:57 PM
I saw the two sites on this thread: Btc accelerator sites (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5448903.msg62427449#msg62427449). Posted by: anubizz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=356174), which might later get my red trust if those sites are scam sites.


The best would be from a mining pool operators confirming this.

If no solid evidence to prove the legitimacy of these two paid accelerators, no one should use both of them if you want to avoid scam.

The first: Free and Paid service.

https://www.bitcoinjumper[dot]com/

Quote
Paid Accelerate:
With paid submission your transaction will be manually added to be confirmed by one of our partner mining nodes. The fee for this special inclusion into one of the next blocks means you'll need to pay above the current miner processing rate for BTC/kB. This miner fee is automatically calculated for you to make sure you only pay what is needed.

The site also offer free accelerator, but obviously it can not work, just like other accelerators that should be avoided as they are doing nothing than rebroadcasting the transaction:

Quote
Free Accelerate:
With free submission you only need to submit it once and our app will resubmit your transaction every 15 minutes to the broadcast nodes automatically until confirmed. This is what makes our free BTC accelerator so powerful and user friendly.


The Second: Paid service.

https://btcnitro[dot]com/

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Paid Accelerator:
Bitcoin transaction stuck or slow waiting for confirmation? This can happen with the network is very busy or if you used a low mining fee.

BTC Nitro sends your transaction to our network of mining partners who will include it in the next block they mine.


I too or anyone can come up with such idea and use it to scam people. Are they not scam sites? The bitcoin transaction accelerators that we should believe are the ones owned by mining pool like ViaBTC accelerator (https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/).

Mate, you will be reported to the admins. I was just posting an answer on a question of another member with my personal experience. No need to throw around with bad reviews!


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: logfiles on June 19, 2023, 11:30:00 PM
Mate, you will be reported to the admins. I was just posting an answer on a question of another member with my personal experience. No need to throw around with bad reviews!
When responding to users, it's always important you know what you are talking about. Rebroadcasting a transaction to the network does not help at all, so any services claiming that they are accelerating a bitcoin transaction by just rebroadcasting it to the network are liars.

What the OP in that thread needed was a service that could include add his transaction into the next block they mine, like ViaBTC and not just rebroadcasting it.

Reporting to admins about the negative feedback won't help, as they don't moderate trust ratings. Own up to your mistake and have a sober discussion with the person who left it to you, and they might remove it. It's not too late.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: sheenshane on June 19, 2023, 11:59:28 PM
Why red tag him?  Is he the owner of those sites?
It seems that's inappropriate IMO.

I used this Bitcoin transaction accelerator before the btcnitro but the first one isn't familiar to me, but if you research on Google, they will appear as a Bitcoin accelerator.  It might be the one you tagged was using the Google search and recommending to the thread that he replied to and nothing more.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 20, 2023, 06:48:11 AM
Why red tag him?  Is he the owner of those sites?
It seems that's inappropriate IMO.
There are newbies on this forum, for them not to try anything stupid like paying those accelerator sites. Anyone that come up with anything looking like scam and not proven legit can be tagged. He should not provide links that can lead to money loss without anything done.

I used this Bitcoin transaction accelerator before the btcnitro but the first one isn't familiar to me, but if you research on Google, they will appear as a Bitcoin accelerator.  It might be the one you tagged was using the Google search and recommending to the thread that he replied to and nothing more.
You have used btcnitro before, you paid and it worked?

I have researched about the first ones, people have negative reviews about it: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoinjumper.com


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Dunamisx on June 20, 2023, 07:28:17 AM
There's more call for us to be as very vigilant than ever before considering the rate things are fast changing and how scammers continue to look into areas they could get our vulnerability in other to attack us, i see it either free or paid for is not what that really matters because the scammers can appear in either forms, what we should first put in consideration is the level of trust and reputation on those offering the transaction acceleration services.

Who are they, where are they, what's their background records and history, our research goes along way here before we can trust them, but if we could see more people to attest to their use and services base on their experience with them, we can take that in addition to the research being made to arrived a conclusion on them.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Pidgeon on June 20, 2023, 03:50:14 PM
Mate, you will be reported to the admins.

I've reported your ass to the great Karhu! Be warned puny mortal!


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Potato Chips on June 21, 2023, 04:56:35 PM
I personally wouldn't think of paying any transaction acceleration services unless they can prove their pool affiliation.

Thing is, some fellas out there could try to credit-grab 'some' transactions to make it seem their service is legit.

For instance, they could use viabtc and grab the credit or merely rely on the odds that a miner will pick up the transaction at a reasonable time--perhaps the mempool will become less congested and the transaction in question had a decent fee rate to begin with.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: PX-Z on June 21, 2023, 11:19:23 PM
Paying bitcoin transaction accelerators that are not a mining pool related service, like what viabtc do is a no-no to me.
Also, red tagging a user from what he recommends is a bit overboard. Neutral tag is okay, educating him/er to update the content is better.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: icalical on June 22, 2023, 03:34:19 AM
Tried the free acceleration it definitely not working just like you said, I wouldn't try the paid one though, don't want to waste any bitcoin to such site.

However tho if you can't tie any ownership proof to the user you accused I don't think you should red tagging the user, just neutral feedback would enough to discourage people from anything that the user suggests, and people will be more careful when doing any transaction with the user, giving a red tag would make most people don't want to do anything with the user, it's a bit too much IMHO.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Poker Player on June 22, 2023, 04:27:32 AM
In the past, when I had less experience, I used the free accelerator sites, which, as has been said, are usually useless. If I had to accelerate a transaction, I would simply bump the fee, as I usually have RBF enabled, and ultimately if I didn't have it enabled I would use viabtc, from what I have read on the forum.

Regarding the red tag, I don't understand it either, when I saw this thread, I thought that anubizz had opened a thread to talk about these sites, but it is a simple comment in another thread.

Why red tag him?  Is he the owner of those sites?
It seems that's inappropriate IMO.

That's my opinion as well.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 22, 2023, 07:56:09 AM
Thank you all for your opinion, I will just advice the newbies no to use those accelerator sites, else they might be scammed because the accelerators are not likely accelerating anything. The only accelerator that I have seen to be working and not scam, including its free accelerator is ViaBTC accelerator.

According to what you people commented, I agree with you all and I have removed the negative trust. I hope this would be a warning to him not to just recommend what should not be recommended on this forum. Likely he googled search it, but saying he has used all the sites before with success, the reason I tagged him red.

Regarding the red tag, I don't understand it either, when I saw this thread, I thought that anubizz had opened a thread to talk about these sites, but it is a simple comment in another thread.
What if you definitely know the site is a scam? Some people are trying to scam like that, they will not create topic but prefer to recommend scam site in their replies. Scammers have different ways of scamming.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: albon on June 23, 2023, 10:08:48 PM
Thank you all for your opinion, I will just advice the newbies no to use those accelerator sites, else they might be scammed because the accelerators are not likely accelerating anything. The only accelerator that I have seen to be working and not scam, including its free accelerator is ViaBTC accelerator.
Well done, buddy, for sharing this topic and for wanting to protect the community from losing their money in vain in these accelerator sites. Frankly, I have not tried any of them before, but what seems to me is that they take the person’s fees without making any impact on the transaction to be accelerated, yes ViaBTC is famous among these sites that trying to imitate the same services, but it also requires large fees in the paid plan, which may exceed the transaction funds, so I do not prefer to waste my money on these acceleration sites, and I prefer to wait instead.

What if you definitely know the site is a scam? Some people are trying to scam like that, they will not create topic but prefer to recommend scam site in their replies. Scammers have different ways of scamming.
I agree with you on that, but since @anubizz was his first mistake and he did not repeat it before, and he justified his position that he recommended these sites through Google, we can now overlook his recommendation, it is good that you deleted the red tag, but I hope that this will be a lesson for him in order not to recommend sites or platforms from search engines without having sufficient research about them or having previously tried them, and so that beginners and others do not lose their money, because this matter may make us throw suspicions about him.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: BTC-Nitro on November 16, 2023, 10:47:38 PM
Just to close the loop here. I'm the owner of BTC Nitro - we've been in operation for 4 years and still going strong. Countless trips to China (back in the day) and the US have meant that we're still able to offer the service. Yes it's paid, no you don't have to use it.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: PX-Z on November 16, 2023, 11:58:53 PM
Just to close the loop here. I'm the owner of BTC Nitro - we've been in operation for 4 years and still going strong. Countless trips to China (back in the day) and the US have meant that we're still able to offer the service. Yes it's paid, no you don't have to use it.
So what are those mining pool you are partnered that you are claiming so people can confirmed those. I don't think those detail should be confidential by any means so you can tell us.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: BTC-Nitro on November 17, 2023, 12:17:56 AM
Just to close the loop here. I'm the owner of BTC Nitro - we've been in operation for 4 years and still going strong. Countless trips to China (back in the day) and the US have meant that we're still able to offer the service. Yes it's paid, no you don't have to use it.
So what are those mining pool you are partnered that you are claiming so people can confirmed those. I don't think those detail should be confidential by any means so you can tell us.

The structure of my business is confidential, both contractually and by best practice in any competitive market. I'm not here to prove anything or seek confirmation from anyone.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 17, 2023, 12:22:05 AM
The structure of my business is confidential, both contractually and by best practice in any competitive market. I'm not here to prove anything or seek confirmation from anyone.
I am not expecting more than this. I will continue to advise people to avoid other accelerators which can not prove themselves worthy. The only two accelerators that I know for now that are working are both ViaBTC and Binance transaction accelerators.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: PX-Z on November 17, 2023, 12:32:39 AM
The structure of my business is confidential, both contractually and by best practice in any competitive market. I'm not here to prove anything or seek confirmation from anyone.
Nice, I have checked the transaction ids of your users' complain and reviews found on trustpilot. 1 from Foundry USA Pool, 1 is Unknown, and 2 is Viabtc, so what are the other 2 or i say 3?
Don't tell me you are "partnered" with viabtc to charge people flat $25 then push it using viabtc's free accelerator?
Also having a flat $25 fee as you claim is not how bitcoin transaction fee works. Yes, your "business" will profit if tx fee is too low, then your business will be at risk if someone has larger transaction size yet bitcoin fee is too high and then you still ask flat $25? your mining pool partner will be at risk too accepting such low fee when the demand of tx fee is too high. Obviously, scam is scam.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Jannn on November 17, 2023, 01:16:45 AM
I vouch for BTCNITRO.
Used them YESTERDAY night to accelerate a transaction for me that would otherwise take MANY DAYS to confirm, cuz a son of a bitch sent me with stupid low fees.

And they confirmed my transaction within 9 hours after payment !

So i vouch for their service, they are DEFINITELY not a scam (They also have good reviews on trustpilot, although small, but sure)

here's proof from within my email (Same avatar from my scam report case at casino.guru against BC.GAME site)
so i'm a real experience-based feedback here.

PROOF

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/17/F6rAJ.jpeg


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: pinggoki on November 17, 2023, 01:44:29 AM
I vouch for BTCNITRO.
Used them YESTERDAY night to accelerate a transaction for me that would otherwise take MANY DAYS to confirm, cuz a son of a bitch sent me with stupid low fees.

And they confirmed my transaction within 9 hours after payment !

So i vouch for their service, they are DEFINITELY not a scam (They also have good reviews on trustpilot, although small, but sure)

here's proof from within my email (Same avatar from my scam report case at casino.guru against BC.GAME site)
so i'm a real experience-based feedback here.
Your red trust in your account although unrelated to this thread, I think is still relevant to your trustworthiness because who exactly are you to be able to vouch for the site alone, maybe if there are multiple accounts that have a reputable users that will also vouch for what you are doing then there's a possibility that this site is trustworthy and this kind of site needs a lot of vouching from different people because accelerators are a pretty useful tool for bitcoin transactions right now so the possibility of scam websites trying to make money from the hype is at an all-time high.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 17, 2023, 08:26:07 AM
I vouch for BTCNITRO.
Used them YESTERDAY night to accelerate a transaction for me that would otherwise take MANY DAYS to confirm, cuz a son of a bitch sent me with stupid low fees.

And they confirmed my transaction within 9 hours after payment !

So i vouch for their service, they are DEFINITELY not a scam (They also have good reviews on trustpilot, although small, but sure)

here's proof from within my email (Same avatar from my scam report case at casino.guru against BC.GAME site)
so i'm a real experience-based feedback here.
Your red trust in your account although unrelated to this thread, I think is still relevant to your trustworthiness because who exactly are you to be able to vouch for the site alone, maybe if there are multiple accounts that have a reputable users that will also vouch for what you are doing then there's a possibility that this site is trustworthy and this kind of site needs a lot of vouching from different people because accelerators are a pretty useful tool for bitcoin transactions right now so the possibility of scam websites trying to make money from the hype is at an all-time high.
They are just both scammers. If I was not told to removed the red trusts that I have awarded some of them, I would have also given this hacked or sold account red trust for collaborating with a scammer to look for ways to scam some people on this forum. I hope no one will use their scam accepting service before they will know that the site is a scam.


Title: Re: Are this scam sites or real? I am guessing they are scam sites
Post by: Jannn on November 17, 2023, 01:27:07 PM
I vouch for BTCNITRO.
Used them YESTERDAY night to accelerate a transaction for me that would otherwise take MANY DAYS to confirm, cuz a son of a bitch sent me with stupid low fees.

And they confirmed my transaction within 9 hours after payment !

So i vouch for their service, they are DEFINITELY not a scam (They also have good reviews on trustpilot, although small, but sure)

here's proof from within my email (Same avatar from my scam report case at casino.guru against BC.GAME site)
so i'm a real experience-based feedback here.
Your red trust in your account although unrelated to this thread, I think is still relevant to your trustworthiness because who exactly are you to be able to vouch for the site alone, maybe if there are multiple accounts that have a reputable users that will also vouch for what you are doing then there's a possibility that this site is trustworthy and this kind of site needs a lot of vouching from different people because accelerators are a pretty useful tool for bitcoin transactions right now so the possibility of scam websites trying to make money from the hype is at an all-time high.
They are just both scammers. If I was not told to removed the red trusts that I have awarded some of them, I would have also given this hacked or sold account red trust for collaborating with a scammer to look for ways to scam some people on this forum. I hope no one will use their scam accepting service before they will know that the site is a scam.

You're talking shit out of your ass,  bruh.
I'm a paid buyer of their service.
Used it yesterday so if you want to BELIEVE it's a scam despite the evidence of a REAL USER (not biased/not earning anything to promote them) then it's UP TO YOU bro...

But you can't accuse ANYONE without PROOFS, ok.
It's against forum rules, bear that in mind.