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We recently launched a site called NAKAMOTO ROULETTE .com

While it has had some interest, we have not had the marketing budget or partners to push the site to make it a success, and it really can be with the right person!

After developing and recently launching the site, NakamotoRoulette.com - We have decided to sell.

So we would be VERY interested in finding the right partner or just selling the site to someone who wants to operate it, under the same ethos it was founded upon: Anonymity and Trust.

Sale includes website, server setup (in AWS), live roulette game source code (javascript, nodejs, python), result fetcher, etc. The LOT!

HIGHEST BIDDER WINS! :D

Some details;

Games immediately available are LIVE Roulette Games, the source code to which is fully provided (game server, game client) and the video streams and results are available on a monthly contractual basis - negotiable. Possibly a small revenue share of action over those games specifically or something like that, so to ensure the site is profitable no monthly minimums or other service fees would be charged.

We can offer more games later when we have them ready, as we plan to roll out a slots and traditional casino game (RNG suite) to all our sites.

Hosting is really cheap using EC2 VPS instances with AWS as well as Hetzner - this could be shrunk since much of that is development environment, currently on the order of 100-200 per month but could be pretty much halved.

Incoming revenue is near-zero right now, there are 2-3 players a day and the site is winning maybe 1k-2k satoshi daily - it is absolutely tiny right now, since there is no marketing activity going on. With marketing, this site could do VERY well! We have been involved and setup sites before that have done amazingly.

All it needs is a marketing plan and budget!


STARTING BID: 1 BTCitcoin.

It’s sad to see this project of won’t continue anymore since you seems honest on developing your game. The only problem was there’s only low demand for live roulette games since there’s tons of them on other live game provider like evolution which has low players too for their roulette category. If only you manage to add different games aside roulette, I think you have a chance to get some popularity here.

I’m just concern on the sustainability of the live feed for this roulette. Seems like you are the only one who program those cctv or get that live feed from that casino. What will be the setup in case this will be transferred to the new owner. How can he assure that live stream will never be interrupted? Will you offer lifetime support for the sustainability of the website since this casino is relying only on live video provided by that unknown casino.

Thanks! We will still operate the site if it does not sell, and may launch another in the future if and when we have developed more games and more importantly, have a marketing budget available. What actually happened here is one of our partners who was going to bankroll the marketing stepped away pre-launch and this caused a financial vacuum stopping us from executing our marketing plans.

Game Selection;
You are right that we need more games, however having to code them ourselves is taking a long time - we did not want to offer 3rd party games because A) they require a license B) high integration fees and monthly minimum contracts and C) they may disagree with the site ethos of Anonymity. We hope whoever operates the site can find the right slots games provider where those issues are not concerns.

LIVE Feed Provision (included);
Really excellent point: we would offer a monthly contract or revenue share for the continued ongoing provision of the live feeds - we have license to the source feeds via another company and can continue to offer these to whoever operates the website. We would include some months free, no monthly minimums and a basic capped fee - ensuring there is only a cost when there is revenues and always low enough to ensure profitability of the site.

It's better to just do a partnership with investors who can add funds for marketing, the one who is going to buy this platform should have good experience in managing a similar platform if it's a new investor who just wants to own a casino, he will be lost in managing this platform because I doubt if there are huge demands on this kind of format, but with the right marketing and partnership, this project will have demands.
Anyway, good luck with selling this platform, who knows they will have a relaunch here.

You are right of course - we are also open to offers if someone wants to become a marketing partner with us and we relaunch/market/push the brand properly! Totally interested in that if the right person reads this, hit us up :D

Allowing players to invest to casino bankroll is one way of casino method to get bankroll investment especially if your casino is running for a long time. I think you can do this here to help you get enough budget to operate the casino smoothly. I just think that you really need to add games like the popular blackjack and bacarrat to make your casino attractive to players.

You have a fair point about license and anonymity. What I’m really pointing out with more games is more live feed games from the same casino that you are getting the feed of your current roulette. I’m sure that casino is not limited only to roulette. maybe you can try to partner with them to provide even 1 Blackjack and Bacarrat table dedicated for your live feed.



This should be highlighted on your sales pitch to assure potential clients about what extra service they can get by purchasing your casino. Good luck to your sales.

your casino was launched on the 24th of february, that means it has already been running for 4 months, in my opinion it would be good if you could put details in this thread of how much money more or less your casino will need for marketing or what is the price of your casino , you could also post in this thread a summary of how these 4 months that your casino has been operating were, what were the biggest obstacles your casino had to face, what were the profits and losses (you don't need to talk about exact value, but at least you can talk about an estimated amount of profit and loss you had )

another important point that I think you had to mention in this thread is about the operational costs that you are having with the casino, when talking about all this people will be able to better analyze whether or not it is worth just putting money in your casino, how much profit and how long to make a profit they can wait, this is all very important to mention when you are looking for a partner or person to help you, at least that is my opinion, I wish you luck

if this an auction? what is your deadline related sold this website? moreover what is the minimum that you will accept? well I think that here in bitcointalk potentially you can find a buyer but this is the "wrong section" if this is a topic for a sale (ask to a moderator to move this topic in "digital goods").Last but not least, try to evaluate also other opportunities like a specialized site in website trade (flippa) or just... ebay!

It's not really an auction in the typical sense, it is just open for offers and the highest offer would win -- unless it is a partnership offer then the marketing resources and plan count.

As for the wrong section, I was following the guidelines and even the title is verbatim what the top-pinned-post gives;
quote;
"Good examples of new threads:
"Bitcoinduit | Selling Site To Highest Bidder. 20% of profits must go to charity." -newsworthy
..."

So if I did something wrong, oops! I do try to follow the rules.

We will consider listing in other avenues, thanks for the tip!

It’s sad to see that you guys are stopping the services. To be honest the domain was really attractive and if you guys have done the marketing properly, then you could have got potential gamblers for the site. Nevertheless let’s see who takeovers the site now, and if we see again NakamotoRoulette in action again or not. Yes you could just mention a minimum bid atleast, so the bidders can know from where they can start the bid. It will be also great if you could move your thread to Auctions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=73.0) board.

Oh, we are not stopping service - if nobody buys it, we will continue and just build up the marketing slowly - but otherwise we want the new owners to cotinue the site of course (or why else would they buy it) - so no plans on stopping anything :)

That's good advice - I think we can start at 1btc as a starting point.

My first impression after seeing the price isn't the one bitcoin price a bit on a higher side ? Although i have no idea the worth of the gambling sites but anybody can comment if one bitcoin is the right price for this site ?

My second question is that let's suppose you are not able to get a buyer who is willing to pay one bitcoin so will you postponed idea of selling it or will you still sell it for any highest amount being offered.

Good questions!

Since it is a unique bespoke site, already launched and operational and also includes source code including the source code of the games themselves and gameservers (not a common thing) then 1btc in our opinion is actually super low.

No we would not sell it if we do not meet a minimum price, we will just continue and build the site up.

    -  It was a few months ago when you posted about the start of nakamoto roullette.com, right? do you mean you haven't got any potential investors to sponsor this casino?

I'm just not a fan of roulette games, so I didn't pay much attention to this platform. I hope you can somehow recover for survival in the crypto gambling industry, the competition is still quite tough here to be honest.

Yes, we started a few months ago - our partner who was to be doing the marketing never materialised so while we have the site operational and a bankroll, we do not have a marketing budget and hence have not initiated any significant campaigns - so the site has been slow to pick up much activity. Of course we plan to add more games eventually also.

With the right partner and marketing, it could be great!

Actually it's a pity that you sold it, as far as I can see everything looks good and not too bad this site even seems to be able to attract gamblers to try the game, it's true that every gambling platform needs something called marketing so it's hard to be known let alone get active users on this site . Domain names are also quite selling.

But it all comes back from your decision, you should be able to invite investors to fund your project from this forum so that you can carry out large-scale marketing to get lots of users to try gambling platforms such as roulette games on your site, I am not a roulette game lover but in my opinion personally very unfortunate if you sell it. think again before deciding to sell it

It's not sold - we never got any offers so we are proceeding with the site operation and will start a real marketing campaign soon!

not surprised that you didn't get any offers, the website looks unfurnished(no offense) and you are asking for 1BTC as a starting bid. Since you are planning on proceeding with the site operation because of the lack of offers, I'd suggest renovating the website to make it at least appealing to the people visiting it before proceeding to marketing it.

It is sad to see this roulette being put up for sale. Sometimes it really could suck this way to find a lasting solution to pending issues at hand and you could not hold it back but put it up for sale. I was wondering what really happened if you could not do a good advertisement calling for investors to partner with the roulette and possibly you could get one rather than putting it up for sales because merely putting it up for sales, you have already made the community having some thoughts about it and maybe that might not be the real deal as they have such thoughts running on their mind.

A marketing campaign as you have mentioned would likely be the answer to your predicament currently and I believe that would ease some headaches and possibly attract much traffic to your roulette casino.

From your own side since the casino is on auction,it means that if there is a buyer you guys have stopped service because the new owner take total control of the casino.

It is when you guys didn't we a buyer as you stated that is when you guys are still on service. Marketing was the problem that your casino had,because the casino doesn't have adverts and it will be rare for you to have potential users. This is why when you are setting up a new business,you should consider have a marketing strategy to sell your products or services out to the people.

Yes of course, I agree - we did have a marketing plan and marketing budget, but as explained above our partner who was funding that part of the business walked away prior to launch leaving the site without a startup marketing budget. It takes a significant financial investment to initiate the marketing, I am not talking about 1 or 2 banner ads or maybe a cheap email spam campaign :)

Anyway, I appreciate your input and agree with you.

We have one developer here with issues with his template and yet he is thinking of marketing his platform already, if the issue is marketing although marketing is important and the platform is ready and functional all you need is an initial budget then run the project and launch marketing later.

The most important here is your presence and trustworthiness as a developer of the casino, many casinos started here with no marketing they just launched, show dedication, and after a few months when the platform is already profitable, they launch marketing.

You are right that is exactly what we are hoping - we will stick with it and gain a marketing budget eventually - in the meantime the site is bankrolled and operational and has no issues whatsoever, and we have new games coming onboard soon.

In the grand scheme of things this is the best thing that they can do. Some projects aren't even as lucky as them as to be able to sell their source code. As for the setup once the ownership was transferred to the buyer, I think they won't be the one to provide live feed for roulette anymore? Since it doesn't make sense that they'd still be the people who'd provide live feed with the delays in transmission and all that once the transfer process pushes through. But what do I know lol I'm not the one operating the roulette anyway.

That's good advice right there, maybe even urge some angel investors out there to help them out and fund the project for them beyond just the marketing budget that's needed you know. Best if NakamotoRoulette could advertise themselves on other channels beyond bitcointalk to reach more people, I hear Twitter's pretty good with connecting projects with investors.

I do not think that there can be a big popularity in live roulette. I don't trust these games for a long time. All the big wins I received in slots

It is nice hearing that the roulette casino is being bankrolled and fully operational but you can as well map out a little budget for advertisement purpose so that you do not have issues in the future just as it happened that you were about putting it up for auctioning. Advertisement plays a big role in publicity and awareness. If a project sees importance in advert and promoting their product, then they should also consider doing advertisement to reach out to a wider community. I believe advertisement is just the issue roulette is facing currently so it would be in the best interest of the casino to tow that path of promoting their product here for a bigger  and wider audience to key into.

So, that means it is already handed out to its new owner? That's cool but they should change the title of this thread now or better create a brand new announcement thread and state all the new things that have changed. Advertisement is important and might be needed again to let others know that they are back again on track.

It can be expensive but it is worth it as long as we are confident that the service that we can deliver to the public is superb. Issues on the other hand might occur again sooner or later but that was fine as there is no perfect casino without flaws and if we can see, almost all casinos do always run a maintenance from time to time.

No - it was not sold - there is no new owner. If it sells we would of course inform this thread and edit the main post with that information.

Our plan now is to continue with a slow marketing strategy, unless an investor comes on board to speed thing sup, and build it up slowly.

It seems you really did not take your time to read through to get a proper knowledge and Understanding of the scene and how it is happening. You just jumped to conclusions at ease. I never mentioned it was sold neither did I mentioned that anybody bought the casino i was only making emphasis on the fact that they got bankrolled to continue with the roullet. I wonder how you understood it  to have made such comment.

^ I think you can also post it here on this board about your project, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0.
Well, good luck with your project and it seems you are in the right decision of not selling it but instead developing it on your own, even though the marketing is slow but at least there is development of your project.

thanks we will do that, cheers.

What justifies the price of 30K USD for a brand new casino with almost no traffic and active players?
Someone has to pay you 30K USD for the casino and invest thousands of dollars for marketing afterwards, only to get a few hundred active players. It might take several years to such casino to return the investment and earn a profit(and nothing is guaranteed).  
What's the point for someone to spend 30K USD for your website, instead of building his own casino website from scratch?
Running a business requires consistency and perseverance. The gambling business is just like any other business. The competition is brutal.
It seems to me that you have given up too quickly, or you are trying to make some quick money.

Okay, good questions, please allow me to unpack them individually;

Why 30k;
1. The price is ~30k because we include full source code to a completely UNIQUE platform that literally nobody else has. Yes, there are other peoples versions of such systems, but this is ours, written BY us and used BY us - it is unique and is the pinnacle of years in this ultra specific niche. In this regard there comes the inherited opportunity to re-brand and on sell many times - by whitelabeling a software platform of their own they would now own, they can resell many such sites if they wanted.

Market is risky;
2. Yes, we agree it takes many thousands to invest into marketing with an unknown and sometimes a slow return on investment (and sometimes none!) when launching a new brand. It is difficult and fraught with issues, the risks are high but so are the rewards - this is the casino business... those two things go hand in hand. Most 'whitelabel' providers of live roulette software (bear in mind ZERO source code of game client, server or otherwise included) are typically in the 25k+ minimum range, with strict monthly contracts in the thousands before making the first dollar.

Why not roll your own;
3. Building the Casino platform is fairly typical you are correct, but building the game provision (game servers and game clients) of their own live streaming game from real casinos is not typical, and not easy and not fast or cheap. It happens yes but usually under the wallet of wealthy investors and bigger company plans, not as operators (such as this) but as 'providers' (which the buyer can easily become, since they get full source).

Why did we 'give up easily';
4. In the event of a sale, we would be giving away THIS platform (and source) and ready to move on to our NEXT platform with some marketing budget, moving us closer to an all-round success. We do not have a large bankroll and what there is must remain in the 'cashier' for players. We do not have the needed or estimated 5k-to-50k per month it would need in a marketing spend to really get it off the ground. Maybe someone else does so we make a good offer for them.

One of our goals is the development of the games and wish to provide these, eventually, to many sites - in that regard if we sell a few sites 'cheaply' early before marketing spend (so the WIN goes to the buyer if they market it) we gain a kitty we can launch our next site with a proper 6month marketing budget and reach a successful market position without inviting 3rd party external investors.

Why no investors ?
For the very same reason we are here today - because they can 'walk away' leaving a project incomplete and plans unexecuted, which is what occured here. We HAD an investor for the bankroll and marketing, we were ready to launch - however once we opened they walked away and we are left high and dry, with no real way to approach the market successfully as quite literally ALL marketing costs money.


Don't get me wrong, I very much agree with what you've stated - and as having worked in this industry (and been a part of many successes in the past) I know what it takes better than most and marketing is right up there at the #1 position. If you care for an anecdote I have always termed this issue "farting elephants". What I mean by that is it really does NOT matter what the product is, it could literally be farting elephants (look out there at what actually makes money) - what makes a success is what is marketed right, not what is the best product. So endlessly perfecting 'the best product' is not the path to success, but any path to the fastest or best marketing is. Farting Elephants.


This is a really good and important conversation to have - not just for a buyer but for anyone in the industry - and they are great points you have raised.

30K USD is a large enough amount to make everyone hesitate to invest their money, unless you can prove that the site is really worth it and very profitable.
If there is someone who wants to invest their money do you also guarantee the success of the website that you offer.
Let's think clearly and look for sources of profit cleanly without arousing suspicion or doubt from everyone.

My advice is better for you to be able to run a website well so that you have enough royal customers so indirectly there will be many people interested in investing their money.

This is simply a difference of opinion and experience - I wrote the first live online casino software in the 1990s, our benefactor (investor) paid over 6million dollars before the company was profitable somewhere in the mid 2000's -- sure, there was a lot of waste and I wasn't in charge of things, but it is what it is - of course things have changed and you don't need to rewrite the entire streaming pipeline to make it possible today, but there is still a significant investment of time (and money) to get a software package of this kind ready for market.

Since then I worked with other companies, a number of them, which all rewrote their own streaming casino software, all of which cost them in the hundreds of thousands to develop prior to launching any sites or platform.

So no, in my opinion to have the benefit of all that experience but also the full source code of a system that would cost many times that to develop, 30k is not very much - again, in my personal opinion and experience.

Of course my opinions and experience must meet REALITY somewhere, and since nobody is buying it and nobody so far was interested, perhaps my experience has led me to make assumptions that are not (at least currently anymore) true.

If that be the case, then it is what it is, and I proceed as originally planned which will be a slow crawl to marketing. I will see how that goes.

To be honest, I thought that this project has become successful, I try your website in the beginning because you offer some free money. And in the last 2 weeks, if I'm itching to play roulette I just go to your website and watch the live roulette and play with the free money.

But unfortunately, I would agree that you lack marketing here in the community that's why it didn't have the support and so you decided it to sell. All I can say is that best of luck to you and hopefully someone is willing to pay that huge money for your website. I wonder you what's your agreement with the live betting with casinos? Not sure what casino it is though, maybe you can make a sales pitch to them?

Yes, that's better because when you have succeeded in having more trust from gamblers, you can easily have investors who are generous in spending their money to invest.
It does take longer but can definitely help you in development and can easily compete with other sites.

This cannot be said to be successful and of course success is not only limited to having bonuses or a few games, but also having royal customers and quite high trust from gamblers.

Marketing is one of the important factors for the running of gambling sites, so OP must really think about good promotion methods so that they have a solid and large community.

It is almost the same thing as OP giving up this casino and the casino not making much return on investment.  I believe marketing was the issue of this casino which OP never looked into. I have noticed that most of the big names here all did promotion and marketing which gave them publicity they enjoying today and some are still at running the campaign without looking at the fact that they already made big name for themselves.

OP there is nothing wrong with your casino but how you showcase it to the world matters. If it may please you to know, there are more gamblers here than you could imagine and in that case, there is every tendency that casinos that does promotion are likely noticed and engaged with. That is the power of advertising. So you are not left out. Do the needful OP.