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Title: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: alastantiger on June 28, 2023, 09:07:51 PM
Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits? I have pondered this question numerous times. The profiles of certain legendary members indicate that they have indeed achieved the impressive milestone of 5k plus merit. They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.

In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: un_rank on June 28, 2023, 09:12:21 PM
The way I see it, discussing merits in general is frowned upon, it just so happens that newbies are the ones who engage in it more often (while having earned very little of it) making them look like the target.

Also it is one thing to have a desire to rank up and pursue a target in the forum and it is another thing to try to use merit discussions as bait for other members to give you some of their smerits.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Charles-Tim on June 28, 2023, 09:19:04 PM
I did not expect I could have more than 3000 merits by this times, but I tried to make quality posts. I see merit system on this forum like how life is, you can not expect everyone to be the same, but if you are a good posted, you will join a campaign.

They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Nwada001 on June 28, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
Since you already know it's like a tabu for you to discuss merit, why still engage in such a conversation?
 
Well, we all have freedom of expression, and we are all entitled to express how we feel and what kind of question we want to ask.
 
To me I don't think I have given my self that headache of thinking about how to climb that high in merit earning. 
I just believe that the less I pay attention to those, the more I can become more focused. If I'm consistent in what I'm doing, those will only take time, but one will definitely get there some day as long as the merit system keeps on going.
 
Those who have such merit and even more than that are devoted to their task; they have areas in which they are good, and they are creative with them. If you want to be among the high merit earners, I will advise you to put more of those energies you are using to do the imagination work. Maybe luck will be on your side and you will happen to wear those badges some day.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: tvplus006 on June 28, 2023, 09:35:51 PM
...In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals. ..

Obviously, this is due to the fact that a beginner does not have a general understanding of cryptocurrency, but at the same time he is interested solely in merit. And until such a beginner gets enough knowledge, he will not be able to publish high-quality posts for which he can get merit.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Zaguru12 on June 28, 2023, 09:39:27 PM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.

Generally because it is not what the forum was created for. It was just to distinguish people some prominent and helpful members or find a way to appreciate people on the forum. Talking about it would only make it looks like it is a serious parameter on the forum and many would do all sort of things just to get them and this will dis-orient the sole aim of the forum.

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This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?

I doubt they set a goal to it because from there responses and threads you see how freely they engage in discussion but for those who seek this merit you would see from there discussion and how they eagerly creates threads. This doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate and feel some kind or pride when they get them ( this is gotten from their personal threads to show their reputation on the service board). But I don’t think they care. Because if they do they would been creating threads just to get them similar to this kind of threads you just created.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Mate2237 on June 28, 2023, 09:44:01 PM
,but I tried to make quality posts. I see merit system on this forum like how life is, you can not expect everyone to be the same, but if you are a good posted, you will join a campaign.

Quality post is all the matter for meritting but what is quality is different from users who like to merits a poster. Whenever one does something nice in real life, they appreciate either by kind or by award and that is how the merit system works. Whenever you drop a quality post, some will give you merits while will talk good about the post all still contribute to the op thread for appreciation. The 5k merits op is talking about, he will also receive them when posts have been produced by him.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 28, 2023, 09:45:45 PM
The purpose of introducing merit to the forum was to encourage users to be productive rather than spamming aimlessly. In essence, if you contribute valuable posts that are recognized by other users, you can earn merit points effortlessly. Personally, I have amassed over 2,000 merits, which was no simple feat. However, I never set specific goals for earning merits; instead, I simply contribute to the forum to the best of my abilities.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on June 28, 2023, 09:53:06 PM
It all depends on how you see this whole meritocracy...
There's nothing special about having 5k merits; as long as we ain't got any other formal rank after the legendary, then it's fine to "take a slow Walk " after that milestone ...
Alot of members have gained recognition but with fewer merits - bringing that incase you're really keen on it too.  This whole thought would definitely come through your mind when you're stuckup, then you ain't got no merit flow anymore... If you're taking it that way then peeps that have been onboard for several years, with Alot of merits and recognition yet, they got no green tags should even be more worried too.. cus what's the reputation without 'em tags?? Hahahah... Funny human!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Fullcoinese on June 28, 2023, 10:26:48 PM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.
for some beginners who still don't have much knowledge and don't fully understand how this forum works, of course i think besides they have to spend more time to gain knowledge, they also have to focus on understanding as a whole how this forum works and adapting to how this forum works first before they think about making quality posts, getting merits and ranking up.
if beginners can catch the outline of how this forum works, then all that remains is to think about it and be consistent in contributing by making quality posts to be able to get merits and rank up.

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
i don't know but i think if we target to get merit within a certain time limit it will burden ourselves. because if the results cannot be in accordance with our wishes then it can cause a feeling of disappointment and easily give up on us.
all I do is just try my best to contribute and enjoy it.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: BIT-BENDER on June 28, 2023, 10:34:24 PM
I am obviously not in the club, LOL but I am very good with what I have so far, I think I can remember many accounts I recognize when I was building seeing some of them in those low position is sad and also joyous because I don't want to see anyone's growth halted I also want to give myself some credit.

I don't think there is anyone that when they came newly the would have taught they will be on 5k merit, that feeling van only come when you are very close to it. So it's best newbies get there priority in check. It's ok to dream big but try reaching out for achievable goals and steadily great goals can be reached.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: ImThour on June 28, 2023, 11:09:04 PM
I do not recommend to create threads and ask when I will reach certain amount of merit(s). Instead, create good posts which lead you to earn more merits. Reaching 5000 merits is a good target however not an easy to achieve, you need to work hard and share seriously great stuff on the forum to get to that target and it might take 2-3 years if you post regularly. Good Luck with that!


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Myleschetty on June 28, 2023, 11:44:21 PM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits.
It's not considered as taboo and the reason why it is not advisable for newbies to make discussion about merit is because it will be see by merit source as someone who is hungry to merit and the same maybe added to the ignore list of the merit source.
To safe from the trouble it is good for newbie not to discuss about merit.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 28, 2023, 11:45:54 PM
People who have 5000 merit don't care about merit, they are passionate about Bitcoin, and that makes them receive merit for almost every post, because they don't force themselves to post. Simply earning a lot of merit is such a pointless goal in life. Like 500-1000 merit is enough to join any signature campaign. And no one outside of this forum knows or cares what merit is.

Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits?

You can't earn 5k merit by trying to earn 5k merit, you need to have deep understanding of Bitcoin and many related topics and apply them in new contexts, like discussing fresh development in Bitcoin ecosystem.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Lida93 on June 29, 2023, 12:46:53 AM

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
I wonder how bad a member would need certain merits that would make him decides to set a goal target towards it. I strongly believe that such target if not we'll checked it manage could lead to the breeding of merits farming leading to shit posts.
There are things in life we don't need to set goals for and in the case of this forum merits I suppose is one them. Just keep doing your thing with an express mind as one driven with quality both in your posting style and information and you'll wake up as a 5k+ merits owned member someday.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: BlackBoss_ on June 29, 2023, 01:28:39 AM
Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits?
If you won't die or leave the forum, you will get it. Repeat 50 times from what you have gotten and you will get 5k merit if you continue your quality posts and help forum members.

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I have pondered this question numerous times. The profiles of certain legendary members indicate that they have indeed achieved the impressive milestone of 5k plus merit. They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.
They don't care about those numbers when they got it but we care about those numbers because we did not get it for ourselves.

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This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
When above Legendary member rank, no other ranks, they don't have any goal to rank up. Merit race among prominent members does not have many participants.

Most merit club, initial merit included (https://bpip.org/Report?r=mostmerit)
Most earned merit club, initial merit excluded (https://bpip.org/Report?r=earnedmerit)


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Liliana1304 on June 29, 2023, 06:25:15 AM
According to your heading, you're trying to pass a message of not asking a merit related question but from your first line, it seems exactly what you are doing. Quite contradictory to me.

Well, nothing good comes easy so as long as you don't get discouraged along the way, it can be achieved. The way I see the merit and ranking system, it's how quality you make your posts that these things will come, it's just like a magnet. No need to be in a haste to achieve that status because once there, I think at some point, that euphoria will die down and then you'd become nostalgic, remembering how you were once a newbie. So just let it flow.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Hyphen(-) on June 29, 2023, 06:49:56 AM
Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits? I have pondered this question numerous times. The profiles of certain legendary members indicate that they have indeed achieved the impressive milestone of 5k plus merit. They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.
Legendary members with more than 5000 merits are public figures in this forum since it takes a lot of hard effort and consistent support to the community through quality engagements for a person to come that far. That is why they are always rewarded.

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In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.
Everything is a gradual process; merits will come when the newbie starts posting quality content or making quality contributions in the forum.

Newbies did not need to show their disparity in looking for merits; they rather went extra-mind and thought of something that would be beneficial to the forum, which I am very sure would fetch them merits.

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This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
Some of them have the objective in mind since they know they will reach that level as a result of the quality contributions they're given in this forum, and we all know that merits are a reward for quality contributions in the forum.



Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 29, 2023, 06:59:43 AM
I think that it is normal for a person to strive for growth, especially since there are privileges for ranks on this forum. This may contain not only financial interest but also the most common excitement. To prove first to yourself and maybe to others that you can do it is always considered a good character trait. The competition becomes interesting when a person understands that it is quite easy for him to get merit. I know a user who came to the forum later than some of the leaders, but he is literally a merit magnet and someone who really takes big steps. Look at Ratimov. But in order to achieve all the merits, you can see how much work and time were spent to get into the top ten.
I am glad that from time to time people come to the forum and blow up the forum with their publications, and for those who like to compete, they will be a good motivator for growth.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: rachael9385 on June 29, 2023, 07:10:52 AM
I do not recommend to create threads and ask when I will reach certain amount of merit(s). Instead, create good posts which lead you to earn more merits. Reaching 5000 merits is a good target however not an easy to achieve, you need to work hard and share seriously great stuff on the forum to get to that target and it might take 2-3 years if you post regularly. Good Luck with that!

Yes mate, I can imagine that the OP is in a RUSH to earn a thousand merit's for his/her own favour, OP must be a greedy person that always want free thing and not liking to work hard to get want he want, merit is a reward for hard work so we have to work so we can get a reward.

I think that it is normal for a person to strive for growth, especially since there are privileges for ranks on this forum.

You are right on that.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: uchegod-21 on June 29, 2023, 07:51:56 AM

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
The merit system was created to do the following;
1. To fight spam
2. To rank up
3. It adds prestige to those who has bunch of it
4. It is also a measure of quality.
Everyone in this forum is conscious of the merits system, even those that has much already. I have seen threads where people keeps tracking progress of the high merit earners and they keep the race of banging more.
Op, just be conscious of merit but don't priotise it for your peace of mind.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Z390 on June 29, 2023, 08:05:10 AM
OP: Not another merit question, trust me.

Point: Will I ever join the 5k merit plus merit club?

How is this not another merit question? And it's a very annoying one, what do you plan to do with 5k merit? To hang on the hall of fame? Why is merit this of a big concern for some people I don't get it, only those that find your points interesting will send you merit, if they don't they won't send any and why should you care?

Just drop your point and don't care less if you get merit or not.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: reagansimms on June 29, 2023, 08:47:56 AM
Maybe you can join the 5k merit club, even one day you can pass the 5k club. It needs to be underlined, it is not an easy thing to be among users who join the 5k merit club, it is necessary to contribute more to the forum and extensive knowledge so that you can be among the most prominent users on the forum.
The narrative that you raise can be a motivation for other users who start from the bottom, I know this is not about merit, but without contributing to the forum merit is very hard to come by. The biggest problem that makes it difficult for some users to enter the 5k merit club is because the level of knowledge and way of thinking of each individual is different which is one of the biggest obstacles in achieving the achievement of entering the 5k merit club.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Pandu Geddon on June 29, 2023, 12:30:44 PM
They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.

I'm sure no one is given special treatment. if indeed they are selected in some campaigns specifically by the campaign manager. I guess that is the prerogative of the campaign manager. but not specifically treated in the forum.
they got an amazing amount of Merit because indeed they have a great contribution to the forum. and the other members appreciate them.
what we need to know is that we all also have the opportunity to be able to achieve a target. it doesn't matter if it's a 2k or 5k Merit. if we develop our skills, anything will become possible.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Aikidoka on June 29, 2023, 12:41:27 PM
I'm trying to be as active as possible because I really enjoy being part of this community, also I constantly check for Bitcoin news and technical updates which helps me stay connected to the largest Bitcoin forum on the internet.
~snip~
This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
For the merits, of course I'm one of the people who aim to rank up so I need merits. However, to be honest it's not my primary goal. Sooner or later it will happen if I stay active and engage in a lot of discussions but achieving 5k merits is quite challenging unless you're highly prominent and possess extensive knowledge related to Bitcoin. It will take for sure a lot of time, but it's not impossible even for newbies at the moment. Personally, I believe that in 2-3 years or maybe even less, quite a few newbies could have 5k merits.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: m2017 on June 29, 2023, 02:00:37 PM
Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits? I have pondered this question numerous times. The profiles of certain legendary members indicate that they have indeed achieved the impressive milestone of 5k plus merit. They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.

In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
Before dreaming about 5000 merit, first collect at least 500. You are aiming at this mark too early.

There is no taboo on talking about merit on this forum. That's exactly what you're talking about, isn't it?

Although I am not a member of the 5000+ club (only 1000+), I can say that I set goals to achieve certain levels of merit. I admit, it motivated me to be more active and try to act. It was important to set goals that are achievable at the moment. When I had about 170 merit, my goal was to reach 250, not 5000 as you want. It is necessary to overcome each step sequentially.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Gallar on June 29, 2023, 02:39:05 PM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.
Perspectives like that indeed often make doubts, because the question always arises, is it really like that? But what I have felt while joining this forum, whether it's pursuing merit or just focusing on making quality posts, actually the two aspects have no difference at all. Because for example like this, when a member of this forum, for example, wants to pursue quite a lot of merit, it is certain that the member must be able to make very high-quality posts to get merit, and for example there are also members of this forum who only focus on making quality posts, but in the end it is also likely to get merit. So in my personal opinion, there is nothing wrong with these two understandings, because the two understandings have the same end result.
But what's different is just how to take the path, there are those who take the path to focus on getting merit, and there are also those who take the path to focus on making quality posts.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Queentoshi on June 29, 2023, 02:45:10 PM
Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
I am not a member of the 5k merit club yet, I hope to achieve that someday, but I am sure that everyone who is in that level achieved it from being consistent and active members who grew in knowledge and have steadfastly continued contributing reasonably to discussions in the forum. They have been identified as members who really know about Bitcoins, that is why they kept getting merit on their post. Some of them did not seek merits, but merits started coming their way because of how good they became about Bitcoins due to committed learning.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Lucius on June 29, 2023, 03:31:18 PM
Will I ever join the merit 5k plus merit club or reach 5k plus merits? I have pondered this question numerous times. The profiles of certain legendary members indicate that they have indeed achieved the impressive milestone of 5k plus merit. They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.

Everyone has the right to think about what they want, so why not set yourself a goal if it motivates you to be eager to acquire new knowledge and to share the same knowledge with others. I'm not in a 5k merit club yet, but I'm not far from it either, although some will say it's much easier to get to that goal when you get 1000 merits. Of course, it should not be forgotten that many were members of the forum years before there was a merit system, so they would probably have much more merit than they have today.

In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.

If your goal is just to participate in the best sig campaigns, then you will certainly be burdened with progress and reaching a better rank, but the truth is that you will achieve it much harder if you do it under pressure thinking that you have to get xx or xxx merits every month.

This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?

I personally didn't set such goals because of the things I've already written, and I just don't worry too much about numbers. Any merit for your post may mean that someone appreciates what you wrote, although it should not be forgotten that some posts that are worthy of merit simply go unnoticed or are on boards where there is no merit source.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Who is John Galt? on June 29, 2023, 03:36:15 PM
This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?

It is clear that it is nice when your posts are noticed and highlighted. Beautiful numbers in the profile are also nice to see. Not everyone pays attention to it, but it's nice.

But what is the interest in 5 thousand merits? Why is this number so special? I'll be happy to get my next merit too, and I don't think the 5000th, if ever, will be that much nicer. It is important that your post was noticed, not the number itself. I think so.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: aysg76 on June 29, 2023, 04:56:48 PM
We are talking about 5k merit club when some top ranking members have already dethroned the elite club of 10k merits also and now soon 15k club will also be unlocked.But the thing is they just worked for it without even caring that whether they will reach that levels or not but focused more on sharing useful information through their posts with all of us here.

The process can be slow for some and fast for others depends on how many members recognised it or how useful your post is but we should keep working towards our goal.See we all have hopes that we earn merits and have beautiful numbers like other members but have we looked at their post history like why they get them at this pace? When you understand it you will automatically start working towards it like gaining knowledge, exchange of knowledge here and spend quality time to be active and quality poster on forum like them.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on June 29, 2023, 11:02:40 PM
I think the reason why discussion about merit is somehow frowned upon is because of how newbies become overzealous for it, while they are not even making any good improvement in their post quality, they just want to earn merit to rank up and join signature campaign, after which they begin to make countless shitposts just to meet up with their required post count for the week. That's the reason some members frown upon merit discussion, but not all high-ranking members necessarily see talking about merit and rank as a bad thing; otherwise, there wouldn't have been some merit source even trying to pull up newbies to another rank.


One thing that I have realized so far In this merit system of the forum, just believe in yourself that you will earn merit and keep making good posts. You can also apply for post-review under some merit source, and then you will receive merit. But don't be too reliant on merit sources; just believe in yourself that you will earn merit and also try to be active on new threads with relevant points, and then you will have merit.


Secondly, another thing that I have discovered is that there is what is called a merit fan in this forum. If you are lucky to have a few friends here or members that just admire your posting style because you always make relevant topics or points, then any time they come across your post or comment, they will drop merit on your post. So, for most of these members with 5K merit, I really don't think some of them even care about the merit that much, but the truth is that they keep receiving merit from their fans.


I know that it always makes us humans happy any time we see ourselves growing, yea, but speaking of the merit system here, the target is always to archive merit for the last rank first, after which you must still keep making your posts of good quality so it could show in your rank and also you can still earn merit. Merit is evidence that you are doing a good job on your post quality. There are some members here who receive more than 10 merits every day just for one comment, but does it matter? Merit is evidence of quality posts, and it's definitely not all your posts that will be seen as of good quality, and perhaps you don't have a good merit fan.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Arenga pinnata on June 30, 2023, 12:23:40 AM
Actually I also once wanted to ask something similar as asked by the original author of this thread. But then I undo it. because after I noticed the legendary members who already have more than 5000 Merit.
✓ It turns out that they really have a more active level of discussion in this forum than the others.
✓ They also have broad insights that make their writing always useful for readers
✓ With high levels of activity and broad insight, their contribution deserves to be appreciated more.

So I understand that they are able to get a lot of merit because it is in accordance with their contribution to this forum.
And I think some of them do have a target amount of merit to be achieved. as if there was a thread belonging to one of the User legendary celebrating his Merit acquisition reaching the thousands level. it indicates he had a purpose from the start.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Marykeller on June 30, 2023, 01:45:28 PM
I do not recommend to create threads and ask when I will reach certain amount of merit(s). Instead, create good posts which lead you to earn more merits. Reaching 5000 merits is a good target however not an easy to achieve, you need to work hard and share seriously great stuff on the forum to get to that target and it might take 2-3 years if you post regularly. Good Luck with that!

Yes mate, I can imagine that the OP is in a RUSH to earn a thousand merit's for his/her own favour, OP must be a greedy person that always want free thing and not liking to work hard to get want he want, merit is a reward for hard work so we have to work so we can get a reward.
Can you hear you hear yourself out? How does the OP in rush to earn a thousand merit or be a greedy person? OP just asks a simple and understanding question that a cool normal being would ask or have a reason for someday.  

It is expected of you to give your own opinion or suggestions as to what can be done to achieve such a goal than for you to assume and castigate the OP for the simplest question he asked.  By the way, with all the merits the OP has earned(154), he worked hard for it, he didn't earn them for free.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: DdmrDdmr on July 01, 2023, 05:36:11 PM
<…> Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? <…>
I came across (google search) the forum during December 2017, reading through information on Bitcoin and then (unfortunately) moved on to reading stuff on ICOs. In early January 2018, three weeks or so before the Merit System kicked-off, I decided to create my account here with not much in mind, though looking over my initial posts, airdrops must have been a kind of driver, and I may have read about bounties and campaigns.

I recall not paying attention to what Merits were for some weeks, but I figure I must have eyed some campaign that accepted Members, and I probably though that it would be nice to get the required 10 Merits (at the time, Jr. Member did not require Merits – that came later, in September 2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.msg45810047#msg45810047)). Although I don’t recall it vividly, 10 Merits was probably a sort of lateral objective back then for me, though I remember wondering if I’d be able to make it there, being a total noob as I was back then (not that far ahead now, but anyway).

The first 1K became a sort of objective after a while. Not strictly because of the figure per se , but because, back then, there was a kind of neck and neck "race" to reach 1K between me and LoyceV. He made it to the mark just a few hours before I did on the 27/09/2018; obviously both behind theymos (who made it in just 3 days) and Satoshi (who made it in under 4 months). Being 1K Merits the required amount for Legendary accounts (Activity aside), that was yet another driver, though I viewed it more as a personal pastime challenge than anything else. Any subsequent merits have not been subject to any kind of conscious motivation.

Note: I’m more of the opinion that, for the most, if they want to earn Merits, they should bear them in mind, especially during the mid-to-lower ranks. Essentially, I’d say that one may tend to post better content if he has an incentive in mind, than otherwise, going the extra mile to read, cross-reference, dissect, try out, and so forth. Obviously this is not a one size fits all, and one should not fall into the self-trap of overdoing things too much.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Viscore on July 01, 2023, 09:33:18 PM
I must say I had never become obsessed on merits and just become active in the forum and do what’s supposed to do. And when I find topics that are interesting and which I think I have high knowledge and even significant experiences to share, then I just post based on my personal experience and I think some members have find it genuinely useful that’s why they started meriting my posts. But I should say not all my useful posts are receiving merits, some are just there just to give courage and inspiration especially for newbies.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: nakamura12 on July 01, 2023, 09:53:41 PM
If I remember it correctly, there's a high ranking forum members who did aim to reach a certain amount of merit but as you have said, it is not about focusing on merits but to make high quality posts. The reason why it is frown upon when newbies mentioned or ask about merits is that they will only focus on earning it when the important matter is to learn. The situation is simple enough which is to make high quality or constructive posts then you will get rewarded with merits. Anyway, having 5k merits is I think that it is their motivation to contribute to forum since a forum member won't earn merit by spamming or low quality posts.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: GiftedMAN on July 01, 2023, 10:11:49 PM
They are regarded as the most prominent figures on this platform and given preferential treatments during signature campaign application and selection, and I greatly admire them.


Yes, I think anyone who has attain the rank of a legendary member irrespective of the the number of merits he or she has ought to be regarded and respected here because they have been consistent for years with lots of quality posts to get to that level and giving them preferential treatment when it comes to signature campaigns shows how good their contributions have been in the forum if really there are preferential treatment for the legends as you said. IMO, I think the op shouldn't just admire them but they should also server as your motivation to be consistent here and to emulate their good works in making quality posts which will increase your chances of getting lots of merits that will take you to the rank that you admire. Remember not to focus on the rank instead focus on building your knowledge it will help the growth to come faster than you can ever imagine.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Smartvirus on July 01, 2023, 10:49:19 PM
I had to take the time and scan through this thread before dropping my piece, I had to scan for the targeted 5k merit plus user’s response and thus far, only DdmrDdmr happens to have stepped up to share a light to the OP’s curious mind.

Even still, I think it would have been more appreciated should someone who have attained this milestone with the merit system in existence (by that I mean, kicked off with the merit system in place).

Still, the drive didn’t all settle on gaining the merits but the benefits or preferential treatment that accords it.

One who happens to set goals for himself or herself should also recall not to let his or her goals make them evade principles not to end up wasting their time and resources.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Daniel91 on July 02, 2023, 02:47:47 PM
Personally, it seems to me that there is too much talk about merits on this forum.
I believe that there are many members on this forum who find such discussion completely uninteresting and irrelevant.
Ok, for new members, if they have the ambition to reach higher forum ranks, up to legendary, merits are important, but otherwise I don't see any special importance of merits for members who are already legendary or they don't care which rank they have on this forum.
Regardless of rank, anyone can read posts on this forum, participate in discussions and write posts.



Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Russlenat on July 02, 2023, 06:41:54 PM
The purpose of introducing merit to the forum was to encourage users to be productive rather than spamming aimlessly. In essence, if you contribute valuable posts that are recognized by other users, you can earn merit points effortlessly. Personally, I have amassed over 2,000 merits, which was no simple feat. However, I never set specific goals for earning merits; instead, I simply contribute to the forum to the best of my abilities.
Meriting system has its clear goal not to make the posters obsessed about it but to create more motivation and encourage newbies to improve their post quality so they won’t end up spamming in the forum. With merits, newbies are entitled for high rank position once they consistently post high quality and valuable discussion. However, in my time, though meriting system is not that important, and so I just remain active in the forum and just continue to contribute based on what i know that will be beneficial for other members.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Mr.suevie on July 02, 2023, 07:21:29 PM
The purpose of introducing merit to the forum was to encourage users to be productive rather than spamming aimlessly. In essence, if you contribute valuable posts that are recognized by other users, you can earn merit points effortlessly. Personally, I have amassed over 2,000 merits, which was no simple feat. However, I never set specific goals for earning merits; instead, I simply contribute to the forum to the best of my abilities.
Meriting system has its clear goal not to make the posters obsessed about it but to create more motivation and encourage newbies to improve their post quality so they won’t end up spamming in the forum. With merits, newbies are entitled for high rank position once they consistently post high quality and valuable discussion. However, in my time, though meriting system is not that important, and so I just remain active in the forum and just continue to contribute based on what i know that will be beneficial for other members.
Although the merit system was not created to make anyone obsessed in acquiring specific numbers of merit but it just baffles me sometimes to see some members here who have acquired so much merit and I begin to wonder how possible is it for someone like me too to achieve such, for example o_e_l_e_o, loyce_v , JayGuanGee, fillippone, these are users which anytime I see their number of merits it give me goosebumps because I know how hard it is for me to accumulate some merits although I try my possible best to contribute in the best way I can in the forum and I can say am growing but still doubt if it is possible to have a profile with so much merits.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on July 02, 2023, 09:53:12 PM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits. The typical response received is often critical. Some individuals attempt to convey their message politely by advising new members not to focus on merits, but rather to concentrate on creating high-quality posts without making merits their primary goal. Personally, I have doubts about this perspective. In order to progress on this forum, one must actively pursue growth and development. Being intentional entails setting goals.

If you talk about merits is like that's the only target you have on this platform but focusing on quality post how sure are we that the merit that we shouldn't think of would come? Because is when you have merit that's when you reach those higher ranks like hero and legendary.
And in as much as we want our ranks to grow or to get more merit we must still do what's best for the Forum, what will make it grow not to think of getting merit and trying to rank up. To me I won't advise any newbie to only focus on quality post but it should be the two, quality post and merit, they're both important.


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This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?

To me, I don't think anyone has it in mind that they'd reach a certain amount of merit, if you keep posting something interesting you might get lucky and get a merit but you shouldn't expect it to always come whenever you make any post. And being active doesn't assure you that you'd get a merit is just hard work and what you have to offer then eyes would see the effort you put in to your work.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on July 03, 2023, 10:25:33 AM
To me, I don't think anyone has it in mind that they'd reach a certain amount of merit, if you keep posting something interesting you might get lucky and get a merit but you shouldn't expect it to always come whenever you make any post. And being active doesn't assure you that you'd get a merit is just hard work and what you have to offer then eyes would see the effort you put in to your work.

All are entitled to merit if what is conveyed or asked is in accordance with data and facts. I think the one who gave it was not without a clear reason. Yes. I myself agree with you, please make relevant posts and respond constructively. Don't ask A, answer B. It's impossible and it's funny. But, I think everything needs a process and stages to get used to it.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Dunamisx on July 03, 2023, 10:54:58 AM
In this forum, it is almost considered taboo for newcomers to discuss merits.

It's not an offence to have the desire of knowing more about the merit system, but knowing that you're after the interest of having merit being a newbie is not too good for you to develop such attitude because you will loose focus and concentrations, the you will also present yourself as someone having another personal agenda in mind for coming to this forum, what a newbie needs is the knowledge and understanding of both the forum and bitcoin and not how to physh for merit

Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?

Am not a 5k merit gangs but am aspiring to belong there one day, it's good to set a target and also to fulfill the target set and this has to come with alot of demands from us before it can be achieved, we are not meant to by all means get there but the quality delivery we make opens way for us to get the opportunity of being among the best.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: zaim7413 on July 03, 2023, 12:33:49 PM
Only you can answer this question, can you score another 5 Legendary with 5k merit?
It's honestly not easy to score 5k merit, but it's not impossible to achieve it. Not many members have succeeded in joining the 5k merit club, only a few members, of course, have been able to get there.
It's only natural that they are treated preferentially when registering in the signature campaign, their unlimited contributions to the forum have put them in the position of first class members in the forum.

As I explained above, it's not impossible to achieve it, you can get there if you can contribute more to the forum. Something that has been achieved by other people can still be followed, you might be part of those who have managed to collect 5k merit.
Keep trying until you succeed at your goal, if at any time you feel tired or feel unable to be part of a member who has collected 5k merit, at least you have tried.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Fiatless on July 04, 2023, 06:28:55 AM
This question is directed to everyone, but particularly to those who belong to the esteemed 5k plus merit club. Did you ever set a merit goal for yourself, such as aiming for 2000 or 5000 merits by a certain point in time? Or did you simply remain an active member without explicitly considering merits, only to one day discover that your account had accumulated 5000 plus merits?
My goal is to reach the legendary rank but if I don't get to it, I wouldn't feel disappointed. I have never set any target for merit and I don't think I will ever. My goal is to learn more about Bitcoin, contribute to the forum, and get other benefits from staying here. Having such goals might lead to desperation which is not as good behavior. Setting merit goals can also lead to unhealthy competition. You will always want to compete with others for merit because you want to get to their merit level. It can also lead to disappointment or frustration. Sometimes if you don't get to your merit goal, it might breed discontentment or disappointment. It might not be bad to set such goals but for me, it is better to see this forum as fun rather than a seriously competitive business.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Coyster on July 04, 2023, 06:36:00 PM
All are entitled to merit if what is conveyed or asked is in accordance with data and facts.
There's no forum user that's entitled to earn a merit, if you make high quality posts, then you definitely have a higher chance of earning merits and progressing in ranks, but you're not entitled to it, other users still have to see your posts, read it and merit you. Thus you can't earn it without another user noticing your posts, and it makes 'entitled' the wrong word to use.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 04, 2023, 07:17:35 PM
Those legendary members that reach the milestone of five thousand merit some of them started when their was introduction of merit sources, the only thing I know quite well that will make someone to earn merit that will reach to the specific amount of merit you mentioned, the user most have engaged itself seriously to ensure that it has earn such merit, the only thing I know that will make you to earn such merit very easy is when you are good in technical of bitcoin development.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on July 06, 2023, 09:49:25 AM
All are entitled to merit if what is conveyed or asked is in accordance with data and facts.
There's no forum user that's entitled to earn a merit, if you make high quality posts, then you definitely have a higher chance of earning merits and progressing in ranks, but you're not entitled to it, other users still have to see your posts, read it and merit you. Thus you can't earn it without another user noticing your posts, and it makes 'entitled' the wrong word to use.

Thank you very much, What I meant was "have a chance too.." Maybe I mistyped and it seems a bit inappropriate. but, that's okay, I'll fix it again. Thanks for your advice and I really appreciate it for future improvements to make it even better. But, I like this conversation.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Porfirii on July 06, 2023, 11:06:17 AM
Although I'm not in such a select club and I doubt I will ever be, I'd like to give my opinion on the topic and tell you my experience.

As far as I've seen, there are different types of >5K merited members. Most of them are very long term users who have contributed a lot to the forum and therefore they deserved this "prize" if you see it like that, while others simply have a lot of talk and made friends of the right people in the right moment. Exactly the same as in real life, but with a slight but crucial difference: in the forum, chance plays a very little role: from my perspective, since 2018 we live a true meritocracy.

On the other hand, there are a few exceptional cases who joined a few years ago but still stood out really fast. That is the case of DdmrDdmr, for example, with more than 2K merits per year. I think that these members don't have a goal, they simply strive to do things right. On the contrary, those who take it as a race usually get stuck at 1K: they get their Legendary rank, and as soon as they achieved their goal they often lose motivation.

Of course, I don't have the absolute truth and this is just my point of view. Please, contradict me or complete my understanding of the situation.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: sokani on July 08, 2023, 01:14:48 PM
I want to believe most of legendary members that attained such feat didn't set it as a target. They just kept on doing what they like, making positive contributions on the forum, and the merits just kept coming. Probably it was after some time that it struck them that they have actually reached a milestone. I don't see why you or anyone cannot achieve it. My advice is that you shouldn't make it a target or a priority, just keep learning, improving and making quality contributions and the merits will come.


Title: Re: Not Another Merit Question. Please Hear Me Out
Post by: Daniel91 on July 08, 2023, 01:29:53 PM
I want to believe most of legendary members that attained such feat didn't set it as a target. They just kept on doing what they like, making positive contributions on the forum, and the merits just kept coming. Probably it was after some time that it struck them that they have actually reached a milestone. I don't see why you or anyone cannot achieve it. My advice is that you shouldn't make it a target or a priority, just keep learning, improving and making quality contributions and the merits will come.

Merits were actually introduced to this forum only in 2018 as a protection against too much spamming on the forum.
Until then, new members reached the legendary forum rank exclusively based on their activity on the forum and no one thought about the merits.
Members were active on the forum because they were interested in certain topics or simply enjoyed participating in certain discussions.
With merits, it is different now, but I believe that for some members, merits have no importance and that they are here on the forum because they want to participate in interesting discussions or share their knowledge and experiences with others.