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Title: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on March 28, 2014, 11:48:44 PM
Hey y'all !! Instead of trolling other threads as I usually do I decided that today is productive day (YAYY ME!!) so today I'm going to write something actually usefull ...

Meaning ?

Youuuu guessed it ... MYR mining introduction/help for each of the 5 algorythms (for the newcomers):


First and foremost: Make sure your OS and especially your DRIVERS are up to date. I will also presume you already have a Myriad Wallet installed.

Now for the real mining guide:


Algorythm #1: SHA256D

Ah yes, the dreaded ASIC algo ... well if you're using an ASIC you don't need my help, heck I don't even know how to power one on.


Algorythm #2: Scrypt

If you're a seasoned miner you should already know this but here goes.

Step 1. Download cgminer :
Windows: http://k-dev.net/cgminer/cgminer-3.7.2-kalroth-20140309.zip
Linux(Git): https://github.com/Kalroth/cgminer-3.7.2-kalroth

Step 2. Installing cgminer:
Windows: Unzip the files.
Linux: If you're reading this you shouldn't be using linux but if you're gonna be a stubborn child and still decide to use it just use git clone to download the software change directory to the newly created folder and read follow the instructions in the link I posted for linux.

* you will need to download adl_sdk from the amd website (yes this tutorial only covers AMD cards because ... never mined on nvidia gpus) and place them in the ADL_SDK folder (make sure you put the contents of the archive in there and not the archive)
* libncurses5-dev no one has said it but you need it or else you will have NO MENU, your cgminer output will look like crap

Step 3. The mining part:

Visit the myriad thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.0) and chose from the vast variety of scrypt pools (lel), once you've chosen, register, create workers, add your MYR receiving address and set auto-payment threshold annnd you're done with the pool settings.
Now all you need to do is run your cgminer using --scrypt, -o pool_stratum_url:port (if the pool has a getting started section you'll find those there), -u username.workername, -p workerpassword(not user password)


For aditional settings and tweaking please visit: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

Step 4. ?????

Step 5. Profit.

Easy as that.
There now you're all set, I can't believe I actually wrote this part, I'm so going to get trolled over it.


Now comes the interesting part.

Algorythm #3: Skein

Ah yes, skein 300x more hash power at the cost of -(yes that's right people that is a MINUS)20% heat and power consumption ... yay skein (it's my fav because I run 280x miners mostly)

Step 1. Download modified cgminer that runs skein (I use reorder's as recommended in the OP):

Windows: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uhbp9r6m8zzqnke/cgminer_skein.zip
Linux(Git): https://github.com/reorder/cgminer_skein

Step 2. Installing the said cgminer:

Windows: Unzip, enter directory and that's about it. (Windows miners got it easy, we should make a windows mining resistant coin)
Linux: Same as above(scrypt), don't forget about ncurses and adl_sdk (yes it's that easy)

Step 3. The mining part:

Again I invite you to visit the OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.0) and chose from our wide selection of skein pools ... (sadly again lel) and do exactly as you would do in scrypt.
Now comes the different part, don't worry it's not hard or tricky just different, different is good ... embrace it.
Obviously skein is run with --skein as a parameter, the only thing different than that is the tweaking. Skein is actually quite easy to tweak as opposed to scrypt because you actually only have to find the --gpu-engine upper limit that you're comfortable with in terms of heat/power/gpu endurange while setting the --gpu-memclock to a low value as it has no importance at all. For example I use 1150 for my 280xs and 1200 for my 7970s if I go above that they tend to become unstable but this differs from brand to brand.
Here is a copy of my cgminer sh (equivalent for windows bat):
Code:
root@rig1-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~# cat cgminer_skein/run.sh
#!/bin/sh
export DISPLAY=:0
export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=200
export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

./cgminer --skein -o stratum+tcp://myrskeu.nut2pools.com:6040 -u user.worker -p x -I 13 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1150 --gpu-memclock 1100 --thread-concurrency 8192


These settings for example will output a stable and cool ~220 MH/s ... I mean damn I haven't visited my rigs ever since myr was launched that's how good this algo is to me. Nice cool cards mining at good profitability ... stable ... every miner's dream come true.

Onwards and upwards ...

Algorythm #4 Groestl

My secondest favorite algo because this one hashes at about -40% power and heat produced by scrypt mining, offering about 13x scrypt speed on new gpus and the same or even better on old gpu models. Oh and did I mention a gpu will only mine 3x faster than a cpu, considering cost and electricity ratio on cpu/gpu that's pretty damn good if you ask me. All this algo needs now is some bacon ... mmmmm bacon.
Well about now my brain is saying ... copy the skein instructions and change from skein to groestl ... do it fa**ot (f**k you brain).
Won't do it because copy pasting stuff and changing its name is BAD *yeah I took a stab at copy-paste scrypt coins ... sue me.


Now since this is a cpu and gpu algo you could presume that this guide will also contain a cpu guide. Boy you've never been more wrong, I've never cpu-mined and writing about it would only be copy-paste untested stuff that I cannot help you with later on in the thread.
So I'm just gonna stick to GPU mining for now but I promise as soon as I finish this guide I'm installing the cpu miner on my computer and giving it a go  so I can write about it later or wait for when/if someone who cpu mines offers his hard earned knowledge to enlighten us gpu plebs.

Step 1. Download sph-miner(alias sgminer a modified cgminer containing a myriad of algorythms) :                                        Yeah I made a myriad joke ... again, sue me.

Windows: https://mega.co.nz/#!6ExQEIZR!skZC-GTW2ESXdue4R7DwF0CfbkzhoFq3qhLRkfbX_WI
Linux(Git): https://github.com/prettyhatemachine/sph-sgminer

*now these are the update versions since the software developer is very active and keeps adding algorythms to the miner. I've actually used a previous version of the miner and it worked very nice.

Step 2. Installing sgminer:

This step is actually identical for all algorythms, only the name changes, just download and extract for Win and clone, configure , make for linux (again don't forget about adl_sdk and ncurses).

Step 3. The mining part:

For the second-to-last time I extend a friendly invitation to visit the Myriad thread at this address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.0 where you will find a collection of pools worthy of encyclopedia britannica (or rather dramatica) for the groestl algo.
The actual reason that there are not so many pools for groestl skein and qubit is because these algos are fairly new and only a handfull of people were able to include them in their stratum mining software, this has nothing to do with the fact that Myriad is still widely unpopular (to be read as VERY PROFITABLE)

After you've chosen from our wide selection of well refined pools and set up your account all you need to do is start your --gpu-engines ... I actually think I'm funny ... it's sad.

Like skein this algorythm will only make use of your gpu's engine so again, gpu-engine goes up, gpu-memclock comes down.
Unlike skein this one is started with -k myriadcoin-groestl instead of --skein (or --scrypt on scrypt).

Again I will include a copy of my sgminer sh file:

Code:
root@rig1-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~# cat sph-sgminer/run.sh
#!/bin/sh
export DISPLAY=:0
export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=200
export GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS=1

./sgminer -k myriadcoin-groestl -o stratum+tcp://myr-groestl.poolerino.com:3349 -u user.worker -p password -I 19 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1200 --gpu-memclock 1000 --thread-concurrency 8192 --no-submit-stale

As you can see I use 1200 on all my cards(280x and 7970) here because since it runs so cool and powersaving pushing the gpu harder is ok ... I think, don't sue me if you push too hard and RMA your gpu.
This outputs about ~10MH/s stable.

And that's about it, goodbye.


Oh ... right, qubit ... damn.

Algorythm #5 Qubit

I'm not gonna blow smoke up your behinds I've only mined this algo for testing the miner and pools so I pretty much don't know anything about it well, not anything of real value at least.
So the steps are actually almost identical to Groestl because you're going to use the same miner.
So in short: download the sph miner from the links I posted on Groestl, install, set up pool workers and start mining.
Only thing different (that I know of aside from the obvious performance difference that I DO NOT KNOW OF) is that for this one you should start your miner with with -k qubitcoin

Again I apologize but I have no insight into qubit mining thus cannot offer you any usable advice, if someone would be so nice as to share their qubit mining experiences with us (both cpu and gpu) they are more than welcome to do so. If such a person fails to appear within the next few days, I will start to mine qubit on one of my miners and get relevant information to add to this thread.



And, that's about it folks. Sorry about the bad jokes and puns and awkward writing style, I know it's not the most orthodox mining guides but it's a start.
Suffering from short term memory loss(I get distracted very easily), I forgot something very important I wanted to add to the end of the guide, something related to common settings/tweaks for all algos but hopefully it will come back to me soon and I'll be able to add it.

I know it's long but you don't have to read all of it, just read the part about the algo you're interested in (except qubit, that part sucks ... and sha, that one's too long and boring and tech saavy).

I will proofread the guide after it is posted because that's just they screwed up way I do things so if you find any spelling or grammar mistakes please wait a wail before going all grammar nazi on me.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: shinep on March 29, 2014, 01:24:53 AM
Well written. Thanks for the guide.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: chosetime on March 29, 2014, 02:09:18 AM
Great guide thank you.
Using Sapphire R9 270X I'm managing a steady 147 Mh/s with gpu temp at 64C and still able to browse and play web based card games without any lag.

cgminer --skein -o stratum+tcp://*pool:port* -u ** -p ** --no-submit-stale -I 10 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1100 --gpu-memclock 1000 --thread-concurrency 8192


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: iamphoenix on March 29, 2014, 02:31:07 AM
very nice thank you


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: iamphoenix on March 29, 2014, 02:32:06 AM
wheres your donate address


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: fernando on March 29, 2014, 08:17:56 AM
Does anyone know if there is a yield advantage in any of the algorithms when cpu mining? (I know OP said he hasn't cpu mined, but maybe someone else)


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: smilecoin23 on March 29, 2014, 08:20:25 AM
Very useful information, thank you, thanks for your hard work.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: neuroMode on March 29, 2014, 08:52:57 PM
Bump! Foodies is working his ass off for Myriad. This guy is legit.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: mfqrs3 on March 29, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
Thanks for this guide !


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: unent on March 29, 2014, 10:39:21 PM
Thanks for putting all this information in one place for us.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: N[e]wBie on March 30, 2014, 07:29:22 AM
any thoughts on the relatively low profitability of mining myriad? How can it succeed with low profits? Thanks for the guide!


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: which2say on March 30, 2014, 07:51:02 AM
Thanks to provide this information, I think it is helpful for me.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: johny69 on March 30, 2014, 09:55:55 AM
It spreaded to all of my computers the only safe computer was linux. It was hard to change my passwords the hacker gained access to all of my email accounts.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: softron on March 30, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
Very helpful guide +1, bookmarked


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: btc-mike on March 30, 2014, 05:59:13 PM
Does anyone know if there is a yield advantage in any of the algorithms when cpu mining? (I know OP said he hasn't cpu mined, but maybe someone else)

I have same question. I am going ask in main thread.


foodies123-

scrypt miners should probably be using veox's sgminer. it is based on cgminer 3.7.2.
git - https://github.com/veox/sgminer/releases
win binaries - http://sgminerwindows.com/

qubit & groestl can both use phm's sph-sgminer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: atp1916 on March 30, 2014, 06:06:16 PM
Nice.

Even nicer if this thread is maintained!


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: neuroMode on April 03, 2014, 04:04:15 AM
Bump!


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: smokefirexx on April 03, 2014, 11:27:50 PM
great guide, thanks :D!

Edit: actually tried to use skein but no avail. The batch file closes as soon as it opens, says that there aren't any available commands. :(
Any thoughts?


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on April 03, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
My health seems to be coming back so expect this thread to be maintained/updated regularly


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: iopq on April 04, 2014, 12:17:08 AM
I have an R9 290 and I can't get more than 227 Mh/s with Skein without overclocking (high electricity costs here, I don't even run scrypt because it takes too many watts)
not really sure if it's even possible to get more without overclocking

note: thread concurrency doesn't do anything with skein, it uses the same .bin file no matter what TC you specify because skein doesn't use a thread concurrency


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on April 04, 2014, 01:36:50 AM
I have an R9 290 and I can't get more than 227 Mh/s with Skein without overclocking (high electricity costs here, I don't even run scrypt because it takes too many watts)
not really sure if it's even possible to get more without overclocking

note: thread concurrency doesn't do anything with skein, it uses the same .bin file no matter what TC you specify because skein doesn't use a thread concurrency

take memclock as low as it lets you and up engine as high as you can until you have the desired mh/kw everything else is quite irellevant.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: DeeSome on April 06, 2014, 09:59:02 AM
Great guide thank you.
Using Sapphire R9 270X I'm managing a steady 147 Mh/s with gpu temp at 64C and still able to browse and play web based card games without any lag.

cgminer --skein -o stratum+tcp://*pool:port* -u ** -p ** --no-submit-stale -I 10 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1100 --gpu-memclock 1000 --thread-concurrency 8192


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: Nxtblg on April 06, 2014, 11:43:16 AM
Algorythm #1: SHA256D

Ah yes, the dreaded ASIC algo ... well if you're using an ASIC you don't need my help, heck I don't even know how to power one on.


Could I ask a noob question? Can you mine Myriad with the same ASIC that's used to mine Bitcoin? To be more specific, could I buy an obsolete ASIC off eBay and use it to mine Myriad, or would I be wasting my money?

Thanks.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: giveBTCpls on April 06, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
Im trying to mine using skein algo with my R7850 by MSI. What settings do you recommend??


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: joe_b on April 07, 2014, 02:24:34 AM
Great guide, just what I was looking for, thanks foodies and neuromode :)


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: iamreddy44 on April 09, 2014, 01:10:30 AM
Hello guys,I decided to try out qubit but there isn't much info out there.
I've got 2x saphire 7950 and I get 1,1Mh/s from scrypt and 8,8Mh/s Qubit.
I have no idea if the hashrate is about right. My win config file on sgminer is this:

Code:
sgminer.exe -k qubitcoin -o stratum+tcp://mine1.myr.nonce-pool.com:3360 -O user:pass -I 20 --no-submit-stale  --gpu-memclock 1000 --thread-concurrency 16384

Any help would be appreciated!


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: arcnorth on April 09, 2014, 02:47:43 AM
yeah, it should work since it uses SHA256. By the way, what is the miner you're considering if you don't mind my asking?

 :)

Algorythm #1: SHA256D

Ah yes, the dreaded ASIC algo ... well if you're using an ASIC you don't need my help, heck I don't even know how to power one on.


Could I ask a noob question? Can you mine Myriad with the same ASIC that's used to mine Bitcoin? To be more specific, could I buy an obsolete ASIC off eBay and use it to mine Myriad, or would I be wasting my money?

Thanks.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: DeeSome on April 09, 2014, 09:45:11 AM
Just wondering if anyone knows why the difficulty quoted on blockexplorer, which incidentally is same as shown in pools stats, is different to what is shown in my solo miner ie at time of writing solo mining on groestl using config.

sgminer --gpu-platform 0 -k myriadcoin-groestl -o  http://localhost:10889 -u user -p password -I 12 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1160 --gpu-memclock 1000


sgminer 4.1.0-96-g983e - Started: [2014-04-09 10:17:51]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(5s):6.160M (avg):5.854Mh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:0  WU:0.178/m
ST: 4  SS: 0  NB: 27  LW: 0  GF: 0  RF: 0
Connected to Pool 0 (longpoll) diff 221 as user "£$"£
Block: bac3883a...  Diff:221  Started: [10:32:20]  Best share: 2.459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[P]ool management [G]PU management [ S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  54.0C 1644RPM | 6.134M/5.873Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.178/m I:16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[10:29:08] Network diff set to 221
[10:29:08] New block detected on network
[10:30:26] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:26] New block detected on network
[10:30:42] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:42] New block detected on network
[10:31:46] Network diff set to 213
[10:31:46] New block detected on network
[10:31:48] Network diff set to 221
[10:31:48] New block detected on network
[10:32:14] Network diff set to 221
[10:32:14] New block detected on network

As can be seen miner reports diff as 221 but block explorer (http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/) quotes diff 316.15271549?


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: Nxtblg on April 09, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
yeah, it should work since it uses SHA256. By the way, what is the miner you're considering if you don't mind my asking?

 :)

Algorythm #1: SHA256D

Ah yes, the dreaded ASIC algo ... well if you're using an ASIC you don't need my help, heck I don't even know how to power one on.


Could I ask a noob question? Can you mine Myriad with the same ASIC that's used to mine Bitcoin? To be more specific, could I buy an obsolete ASIC off eBay and use it to mine Myriad, or would I be wasting my money?

Thanks.

I was just asking, as all those cheap obsolete ASICs are going to be junk unless they can be repurposed. It'd be a shame to just throw 'em away...just saying.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: HCLivess on April 09, 2014, 12:44:14 PM
Really nice.
Myriad is a clear success. It is my most favorite coin with VTC and even more, because it has less hype to it and more technological advantage.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on April 10, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows why the difficulty quoted on blockexplorer, which incidentally is same as shown in pools stats, is different to what is shown in my solo miner ie at time of writing solo mining on groestl using config.

sgminer --gpu-platform 0 -k myriadcoin-groestl -o  http://localhost:10889 -u user -p password -I 12 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1160 --gpu-memclock 1000


sgminer 4.1.0-96-g983e - Started: [2014-04-09 10:17:51]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(5s):6.160M (avg):5.854Mh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:0  WU:0.178/m
ST: 4  SS: 0  NB: 27  LW: 0  GF: 0  RF: 0
Connected to Pool 0 (longpoll) diff 221 as user "£$"£
Block: bac3883a...  Diff:221  Started: [10:32:20]  Best share: 2.459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[P]ool management [G]PU management [ S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  54.0C 1644RPM | 6.134M/5.873Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.178/m I:16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[10:29:08] Network diff set to 221
[10:29:08] New block detected on network
[10:30:26] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:26] New block detected on network
[10:30:42] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:42] New block detected on network
[10:31:46] Network diff set to 213
[10:31:46] New block detected on network
[10:31:48] Network diff set to 221
[10:31:48] New block detected on network
[10:32:14] Network diff set to 221
[10:32:14] New block detected on network

As can be seen miner reports diff as 221 but block explorer (http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/) quotes diff 316.15271549?

u sure you weren't mining qubit in your conf ? :)


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: DeeSome on April 10, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows why the difficulty quoted on blockexplorer, which incidentally is same as shown in pools stats, is different to what is shown in my solo miner ie at time of writing solo mining on groestl using config.

sgminer --gpu-platform 0 -k myriadcoin-groestl -o  http://localhost:10889 -u user -p password -I 12 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1160 --gpu-memclock 1000


sgminer 4.1.0-96-g983e - Started: [2014-04-09 10:17:51]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(5s):6.160M (avg):5.854Mh/s | A:0  R:0  HW:0  WU:0.178/m
ST: 4  SS: 0  NB: 27  LW: 0  GF: 0  RF: 0
Connected to Pool 0 (longpoll) diff 221 as user "£$"£
Block: bac3883a...  Diff:221  Started: [10:32:20]  Best share: 2.459
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[P]ool management [G]PU management [ S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 GPU 0:  54.0C 1644RPM | 6.134M/5.873Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.178/m I:16
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[10:29:08] Network diff set to 221
[10:29:08] New block detected on network
[10:30:26] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:26] New block detected on network
[10:30:42] Network diff set to 221
[10:30:42] New block detected on network
[10:31:46] Network diff set to 213
[10:31:46] New block detected on network
[10:31:48] Network diff set to 221
[10:31:48] New block detected on network
[10:32:14] Network diff set to 221
[10:32:14] New block detected on network

As can be seen miner reports diff as 221 but block explorer (http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/) quotes diff 316.15271549?

u sure you weren't mining qubit in your conf ? :)

Spot on Foodies, I forgot to change my config. ::) Thank you.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: xfelinho on April 14, 2014, 09:54:36 PM
Maybe a little help to choose the right algo:

sha256d --> only for asic miner

scrypt     --> only for asic miner / people who don't care about electricity costs

skein      --> amd gpu, they get the most coins out there and power usage is much lower than scrypt (4x undervoltet r9 270 use 453 Watt)

groestl    --> nvidia gpu, thanks to the optimized cuda miner, power usage really low (4x undervoltet r9 270 use 320 Watt)

qubit      -->amd gpu, alternative to skein with lower power usage (4x undervoltet r9 270 use 329 Watt)


sorry for my english, its not my first language.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: child_harold on April 14, 2014, 11:40:55 PM
WOW! what a fantastically entertaining and informative guide!

FYI I believe the Groestl algo Myriad uses is Myriad-Groestl and not pure Groestl as is used in Groestlcoin.

Consequently Im not sure whether Myriad-Groestl will take advantage of the imminent 3x Groestl boost buchner recently posted:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg6220778#msg6220778


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 20, 2014, 06:20:08 PM
Here's my qubit algo conf file using r9 280x cards...hope this helps.

(this should be in the myriadcoin thread's OP)

Qubit:

{
"pools" : [
   {
      "url" : "stratum+tcp://p2poolcoin.com:5567",
      "user" : "MEokvy1zb4BE4GrTZkMbrjrUa3r5bMNe2h",
      "pass" : "x"
   }
],
"intensity" : "20",
"thread-concurrency" : "16384",
"kernel" : "qubitcoin",
"temp-cutoff" : "95",
"temp-overheat" : "85",
"temp-target" : "75",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-mcast-port" : "4028",
"api-port" : "4028",
"auto-fan" : true,
"auto-gpu" : true,
"expiry" : "120",
"failover-only" : true,
"log" : "5",
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "60",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"failover-switch-delay" : "60",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"kernel-path" : "/usr/local/bin"
}

EDIT: Forget it, I get HW no matter what...forgot what settings I used when benchmarking these algos.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on April 28, 2014, 05:53:04 PM
WOW! what a fantastically entertaining and informative guide!

FYI I believe the Groestl algo Myriad uses is Myriad-Groestl and not pure Groestl as is used in Groestlcoin.

Consequently Im not sure whether Myriad-Groestl will take advantage of the imminent 3x Groestl boost buchner recently posted:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.msg6220778#msg6220778


THANK YOU.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: foodies123 on April 28, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
also this is now up to help miners: http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/help.php , feel free to add your optimal configurations based on your own experience. the data is manually reviewd and approved.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: Alex058 on June 05, 2014, 08:22:49 AM
Hi guys,

I have no knowledge of mining, but like where altcoins are going, especially Myriadcoin. I bought some 120K of them, but would love to mine them as well. That makes me feel more involved, and maybe its profitable too.
I'm able to buy this home PC: http://aldi.medion.com/md8349/nl/?refPage=aldi
I'm looking at this one cause its much faster then my current desktop, and I will be able to get my money back without questions asked within 30 days.

So I thought to give mining Myriad a try without having to invest in hardware (or only temporarily), before I know it's fun and profitable.

But...
As i wrote, I have no knowledge of mining. Is this machine able to mine Myriad? This is the processor: AMD A10-7800 Accelerated Quad-core processor
with 3,5 GHz, to 3,9 GHz through AMD Turbo-Core-technology, 4 MB Cache and AMD Radeon™ R7 graphics

If so, can someone help me to set it up? I´ll be glad to pay for the help, in Myriads offcourse :-)

Thanks a lot!

Edit: I also found this, a Butterfly Labs BFL 6 Gh/s Bitcoin Miner, which I can purchase for  €20,-. Seems a bargain, I was wondering if this can be put to work for Myriad.


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: xfelinho on June 05, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
u can mine with your cpu, but its pointless, because it's too inefficient

if you want to mine, u need a mining rig with 4+ gpus or an asic like the gridseed blade miner (650$) for scrypt or for sha256


i wouldn't buy a medion pc; it's cheaper to buy components and build yourself; are you from holland?






Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: xfelinho on July 07, 2014, 06:50:39 PM
Small Update for the Mining Guide:

Algorythm #1: SHA256D

Nothing changed. This is the algo for all bitcoin ASICs.


Algorythm #2: Scrypt

Nothing changed. This is the algo for all litecoin ASICs.


Algorythm #3: Skein

Nothing changed. You can mine it with reorder's gpu miner and maybe in the future with ccminer for nvidia cards.


Algorythm #4 Groestl

For AMD GPUs:

u can now use the new grs-sgminer, a OpenCL optimized miner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652849.0
also make sure u have the 14.6 beta driver, it brings a huge boost in MH/s

For nVidia GPUs:

ccminer v1.2 is the fastest miner at the moment


Algorythm #5 Qubit

For AMD GPUs: sgminer v5 or the older sph-sgminer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632503.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0;all
                     not really optimized gpu miners at the moment

For nVidia GPUs:

ccminer 1.2U-a https://ayarscloud.tonidoid.com/urljfz5fy



If you want to see how well your hardware performs, look here: http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com/help.php

For the right pool: http://www.reddit.com/r/myriadcoin/comments/26kwbm/official_list_of_myriad_pools/


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: meat_body_soul on July 08, 2014, 02:19:14 AM
Thanks for the update.

I have been mining qubit with my R9 270 using the old sph-sgminer.  For some reason the MyrSwitcher package, with comes with sgminer I think, would just crash/relaunch sgminer over and over again when I tried mining qubit with my card.

Downloading sph-sgminer and using it without the Switcher GUI solved my problem, and I'm now able to mine qubit at about 3.1 MHs (anybody out there getting a higher hashrate out of this card?).

However, I would love to use the Switcher GUI for all of my mining!  It's way too cool.  Is there a way to have MyrSwitcher launch sph-sgminer instead of sgminer for qubit, and the the new grs-sgminer for groestl?  Also, do we know if there are any plans to update the MyrSwitcher package to include these changes (for noobs like me)? 


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: xfelinho on July 31, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
i dont use the myrswitcher because it does not compare the higher power consumption


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: machicafe on August 23, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
No sure if this is correct but I seem to be getting 180 Mh/s with 7950s (nix, 14.6 drivers) but the watts and heat are just about the same as mining scrypt.  my settings are 
Code:
./cgminer --skein -I 8 --gpu-threads 2 -w 64 --thread-concurrency 8192 --gpu-engine 1050 --gpu-memclock 800 --auto-fan --temp-cutoff 85 --temp-target 71,70,71 
any feedback would be helpful, or should i try myriad-groestl instead?   


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: xfelinho on January 03, 2015, 10:08:22 PM
new ccminer with faster qubit on cryptominingblog


Title: Re: The Myriad comprehensive and totally serious mining guide for new commers
Post by: carlo_0000 on April 07, 2016, 02:55:09 PM
I have an R9 290 and I can't get more than 227 Mh/s with Skein without overclocking (high electricity costs here, I don't even run scrypt because it takes too many watts)
not really sure if it's even possible to get more without overclocking

note: thread concurrency doesn't do anything with skein, it uses the same .bin file no matter what TC you specify because skein doesn't use a thread concurrency

something i don't understand

r9 290   does only 227mh ?  it should do more than 280mh  right?  if a r9 290 is = 2x r9 270
my msi 270 does 144 at stock speed

and also my 380 does 186 mh (210mh @1100) , so i don't understand how is possible to have only 230mhz on r9 290
or maybe with some oc you get close to 300 or not? but i doubt i think must be around 260  (if the 280 does +24mh)

because i m looking for a msi r9 390 speed on skein, can't find nothing even for 290 no much info


Gtx460        skein 31 MH/s  -I 7  --gpu-engine 822
hd6670msi       skein 31 MH/s  -I 9 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 900
hd4890      skein 33 MH/s  -I 8 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 950
R9270msi           Skein 154 MH/s -I 10 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1100
R9380asus/xfx     Skein 202 MH/s -I 11 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1050

now i have one there is the speed of 390
r9390 xfx                  302MH      -I 11 -g 2 -w 64 --gpu-engine 1090