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Now thats a brilliant idea!

And I'm sure it has been thought of... many times.

Why can coinbase or bitpay or blockchain not be able to front run the implimentation of this model and also tell the government they need a warrant... and or let the shifting landscape takeover and people will need to move beyond the reach of the IRS or other global tax thugs.

I am not necessarily in the camp that thinks taxes are evil. I think I hope consciousness takes over earth magically over my lifetime.

Because this is complete bullshit when you think of it.

How would roads get built if we do not want have a tax revenue?  ???

Yet at the same time bitcoin will not accomplish its goal connecting merchant to customer if the IRS gets to do whatever they damn please with the threat of taking everything you possess including your freedom to roam as you wish, which is largely illegal, globally. This does not mean impossible.

There are some 200,000 people with NO nation home. Why should they be forced to pay taxes.?

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I was looking to buy some coffee. ::)

we are working on setting this up soon, based out of Long Beach, CA...=)
*pm me your e:mail if you want to help or need coffee!*

You grow your own coffee, or you are simply looking to buy coffee with dollars and then roast the beans and sell for bitcoin?

I also want to buy some Coffee. ;) ;D ;D

I am a horticulturist, so that's not out of the question. I'm working and developing a network where the farmers will send to me on consignment and i will roast and distribute here in The States myself. Bitcoin is an excellent tool for payments in this business model! Also another aspect of the coffee shop/art gallery will be a "sustainable" solar/wind powered bitcoin mining center :-)
*i've been pouring over this idea before bitcoin got big!...(((tbc)))

Hint:

1. Make some contacts in one of the Latin American countries where they export coffee, and where capital controls and inflation are a problem. Find largish holders of local currency who want out of their native currency and would prefer to get into Bitcoin and bring them in as underwriters.

2. Use the local currency from the underwriters to pay coffee wholesalers and suppliers, and export the coffee to the US.

3. You don't actually need the US importer to accept Bitcoin, or know anything about it. You can invoice them in USD via Coinvoice (http://"https://coinvoice.com/").

4. Pass the received bitcoins to the underwriters minus your fee.

5. Repeat as many times as desired.

that sounds way too complicated! and who needs a middleman? I'm planning a trip down there myself ~ i want to meet the farmers myself and work out a deal where they send me the coffee and i showcase it and distribute it here via our sustainable bitcoin center/cafe!... Then i send them the BTC and they have an exchange for whatever down there! ;-) ~easy!!!

The difference between the two is not complexity, but volume.

Your way is how you'd involve bitcoin in a trivial amount of international commerce.

The way I described is how you're start moving a single shipping container at a time and eventually scale up to the entire ship.

Long Beach is like one of the biggest ports around, plus i have a vast network already in place! I'd like to keep it small to start and focus on quality not volume...Also balance it with other things at the center such as mining projects and other workshops to get peeps in the local community involved. ;-)