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Title: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: alastantiger on July 12, 2023, 07:49:16 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: panganib999 on July 12, 2023, 08:05:35 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Nope. I don't think so. Number of factors at play that leads to the massive devaluation of the twitter stock and just cause they are up against a twitter clone doesn't mean people will choose them over the latter. For one, Threads actually provides more access and liberty within their platform, against the opinionated Twitter userbase. Another would be the fact that Twitter as it stands today is already a dying platform, no thanks to Elon's belligerent moves that lead to people losing trust in him in the process.

I don't see the price of twitter stock increasing any time soon unless Elon passes the ownership over to someone more capable than him, and someone who really knows how to run a social media business more than charging people 8 bucks so they could enjoy the full experience that they were able to anyway before he came in.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: o48o on July 12, 2023, 08:10:39 PM
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We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Why would Elon launch a clone of the twitter app he already owns? Getting the old one working without problems should be priority.

But let's play with the idea: No, it would not. People have been leaving the twitter platform even before the alternative was launched. I have been invested my time into it in the past but now i am just looking for the password for several accounts that i want to shut down. I am getting more and more spam that it's getting worse than telegram private messages. And the amount of trolling... I totally understand why taliban is endorsing it.

Twtr stock has been delisted so i don't see how comparing the stock value would be relevant.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Zlantann on July 12, 2023, 08:19:11 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Elon Musk has made some mistakes experimenting with Twitter and it is affecting the company negatively. Thread came up with a more flexible policy and user-friendly option and it also gives users more options. If Twitter comes up with a clone of Twitter, its success will depend on the innovation, operation, and terms and conditions of the app. People want something new that will clearly be better than its rivals or alternative. And if the new app is widely accepted by the end users, the stock price of the company will increase. If Elon Musk comes up with a product that is better than Twitter people will gladly embrace it.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Nwada001 on July 12, 2023, 09:14:06 PM
if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

No, it won't, and I believe this thread is even getting this attention based on the recent happenings on Twitter. Since the social media changed ownership, there have been some unfavorable changes made by the new CEO, Elon Musk, which Twitter users have cried out about. I can recall reading through a few articles where a lot of interviews with Twitter influencers were posted, and most people openly cried out for an alternative option that might serve the purpose of Twitter since they are no longer getting what they expect from it. So the hype this thread is getting is as a result of what it offers; if you take a good look at the app, you will see that it's something competitive to that of Twitter.
 
And even if Elon Musk tries to clone Twitter to get another new version of social media, it will not get the same hype because, because of him, most people are already looking for alternative options instead of using the giant social media as they used to. Twitter has now fully been turned into his personal business, where anyone he doesn't want will be kicked out of the forum. And verification is now to be acquired not by originality but by whoever is willing to pay $8, which is going to increase account impersonation more than it has ever been.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Wexnident on July 12, 2023, 10:59:20 PM
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Let's be real, anything new that big companies release that has a semblance of similarity to any famous social media app would become famous at launch. In the long run? I'd say it depends. I mean look at Twitter, Elon made it such a shitshow and yet there are still quite a lot of people that use it. Facebook might have a little bias from me, but it's close to useless imo, but people still use it quite a LOT. Plus, isn't thread less of an insta clone and more like a Twitter clone? I mean if I recall correctly Elon took it as such (I've never used it, and probably never will unless twitter permanently tanks for my commissions).

On Elon releasing a new twitter though, that depends. Meta has been pretty stable in their social media dev, if you temporarily remove their mess of a VR game. Elon on the other hand, sucked at it, at launch even. A lot of people have been hating on the man and there was even an API issue with Twitter a few days (or weeks) ago? I reckon anything new out of this man in the social media industry wouldn't make big money.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Iroh on July 12, 2023, 11:24:33 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

If the plan is to create an app(a replica of twitter)that would rival Threads(an app created to rival twitter), then I must say that plan isn’t a very smart one. Why go through the hassle of creating a replica when you’ve got the original thing.
Aside from whatever controversy that may be surrounding his handling of twitter, if he does create a replica of twitter, I highly doubt that app would be a success compared to twitter based on registered users. Threads was born with the aim of attracting users from Twitter so the solution is to fix whatever is broken in Twitter so people would want to remain and more people would be interested in signing up instead of creating a whole new app.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: tabas on July 12, 2023, 11:45:42 PM
do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
We will never know, it could be yes and no. People like to get into the new hype and that's why there's a potential that it can happen. With the base number of users in Twitter, there can be a big percentage of it that will try to sign up and use the new app if ever Elon will launch one.
But what's the purpose of it? Just to get on par with what Zuck launched through Threads? I don't even think that Elon will take time to compete with that as what Zuck did was planned a long time ago and launched that in a surprise without anybody knowing and see it coming.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 12, 2023, 11:56:52 PM
I agree with others, Elon literally owns Twitter, so why would we really see something like that? If the point was that Elon may end up doing some Instagram coıpy, because Mark did twitter copy, then that makes more sense. Because in that case, he already has that too give or take, of course not the same but twitter allows images, he could still build some app on mobile that is mainly focused on images, he can copy that and do something like that to piss off Mark, and not like it would not be used at all, but I feel like it would be an inferior one, he even ruined Twitter itself, so creating a new thing would not be easy, would probably not get that much people. He should fix what he has, instead of thinking about making something else.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: icalical on July 13, 2023, 01:28:54 AM
However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

What were you writing here actually? It seems like you confuse between Twitter and Instagram, Thread is clone of Twitter.
Elon already owned Twitter why would he want to build app that clone twitter, maybe what you mean is that 'What would happened if Elon build the clone of Instagram'.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: adaseb on July 13, 2023, 04:21:55 AM
Its hard to see how Threads will perform a year or two from now. It can be completely dead or it can go head to head with twitter in volume and maybe one day take over. However the largest issue I see here is if Elon in the future starts to limit twitters views like he did last week due to data scraping from AI. If he keeps limiting people on how many tweets they can read and Threads wont have that issue then I can see many people switching over out of frustration.

Another issue is the poor way of how twitter deals with bots. Especially with any type of crypto tweets. You got bots and bots posting fake tweets trying to phish people. Most likely with Threads it will be alot harder to make these new bot accounts. So many people might switch over if they notice Threads doesnt have the same level of spam as Twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: SamReomo on July 13, 2023, 04:42:07 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

The Musk is a very dangerous businessman and he bought Twitter to earn a lot of revenue from it but in the process he forgot that the users on Twitter loved it with the way it was, and changing it in any way would cause huge stress and fear in the minds of the users. But, that guy with his business mindset didn't really cared about those users because his main intention was to earn a lot of revenue from the platform within a short duration of time. He failed with his approach and that's why apps like Threads got those users in short span of time which Twitter lost due to Musk's greed.

I don't think that Elon Musk needs to create a clone of Twitter because he already owns the platform and why would a guy who has a platform creates a clone of it to make the situation even worse? Meta created the clone in order to grab those users who were dissatisfied with Elon's plans for the Twitter, and Mark Zuckerberg knew that in such times creating an app like Threads could grab those users because they hated the Musk's idea for the future of Twitter.

If Elon Musk wants to regain the trust of the users then he will have to convince the users that Twitter is still the old Twitter and the ones who will be using the platform wont be affected in any way due to the recent announcements. Or he may directly declare that he has changed his plans related to changing of Twitter, and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: nesty on July 13, 2023, 05:29:50 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

There is a rivalry between Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Social media has been the forte of Mark Zuckerberg and we cannot deny it, almost all of his social media apps succeeded. I think Mark Zuckerberg is in the expansion of his app creation and anything he can do because it is his ability to do and manage social media apps. No wonder the netizens supports his creation because those social media platform has benefited a lot of netizen in terms of connecting to our families and friends all around the globe. I don't think that Instagram is a merely clone. As Elon Musk takes over Twitter there was a huge changes. I don't think Elon would launch a clone of twitter app and if ever i don't think it would reach the level of success if Mark because both of them have different forte.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Husires on July 13, 2023, 07:06:08 AM
I believe that both Threads and Twitter are proactive platforms for preparing for the election campaign in the United States of America, and since Twitter is more than just an application for collusion, but rather an interface through which voters can be surveyed and their political orientations can be surveyed, the launch of Threads at this time to block the way on Twitter to be the number one platform One.

I do not expect widespread success for Threads, but the reason for the huge number of registrations is the large database it owns on Instagram and Facebook, and therefore it is not a measure of success, but rather the continued growth of the service away from Instagram, and so far it is an urgent attempt by Meta to obtain more opinions of voters.

Twitter does not need to create its own clone because it is a micro-blogging feature, but Elon Musk may launch applications to compete with Instagram and TikTok.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on July 13, 2023, 08:05:07 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
There is no doubt that Thread has gotten millions of signups just in the first 7 hours of its release, which is a new record after the last product of ChatGPT. which took almost 2 days if I am not mistaken. I think most of the sign-ups are just bots, because how could a huge number of users sign up at the same time? I know it is not impossible, but what one can say is that it is unpredictable.

But one thing I can say for sure is that bots are the main characters on Twitter, and many old members do know the skill of making bot accounts on Twitter, and they also know how to keep them alive for longer periods of time without getting banned. So, such characters will also come up with some hacks to make clone accounts in the new Twitter clone app that will be released by Elon Musk.

Elon Musk is not trying to compete with Mark Zuckerberg by making another rival app; instead, his intention is to sue Mark for copying the idea of Threads, which was included in Twitter. But the mind of Elon Musk is also unpredictable; who knows if the next morning he comes up with such an idea?

I think if Elon made another app or clone of Twitter just like Mark did then Twitter will surpass the number of users as we know both apps have a huge number of users and Twitter has the lead in that if I am not wrong.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: edmundduke on July 13, 2023, 08:46:21 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

Twitter is likely going to move up in price but it will be a steady climb. Very hard to see a hard bump unless some huge revelation is made, possibly involving crypto or something.
As for Threads. I think the hype will die down pretty fast. The initial rush there was so that people could lock in their usernames incase it got popular. Also it just does not feel good or natural posting there, It reminds me more of a forum or something but in an app form.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: slapper on July 13, 2023, 09:15:27 AM
I'm amused by the idea of a big giant app war while I consider your question. That's great tech-nerd entertainment, right? If Musk builds a Twitter clone, it would be fascinating. Musk, unlike Zuckerberg, would start from zero. His fans are his ace. His supporters are devotees. He might start with a large user base if he plays his cards well. Stock markets are different. Not only product success affects stocks. I wouldn't be surprised if Musk's personality alone helped lift equities, given his history of influencing markets with tweets.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: davis196 on July 13, 2023, 10:56:14 AM
It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
I hear news about Zuckerberg hiring people, who were fired at Twitter by Elon Musk(and Musk isn't happy at all).
Meta stocks are getting a short term price pump, because the investors have positive expectations about Threads.
The idea of Elon Musk building a Twitter clone app is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The only right move for Musk would be to leave/sell Twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: bussybuddy on July 13, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
I think it's pretty simple, like he buys an extra pen when he already has a similar pen, and what made him do it? I believe it is not necessary.
Actually, the recent controversy between Elon and Mark as well as twitter and meta, makes me see how much more interest we have in these things, in terms of stock prices I think will increase over time. Indeed since Elon took over twitter, we have also seen improvements, be it positive or negative but it is clear that in his position, the head of a large platform receives the most benefits various criticisms are also hard to avoid.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Findingnemo on July 13, 2023, 11:33:59 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Until now the app called thread is unusable like there is no search apart from user profiles and also most of the users are redirected from Instagram which is also owned by Meta/Mark so the numbers are too huge with no engagement at all. To keep the members alive they need to make changes as soon as possible or else the threads app will become just another Instagram.

Twitter is also struggling due to multiple factors and Mark took this as opportunity to launch a killer app.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Yaunfitda on July 13, 2023, 11:39:21 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Why would Elon launch a Twitter app clone? it has go head to head against Mark Z Threads.

I must admit though that I dowloaded it and try, but then again, I'm old school so I just have like a couple of social media accounts or presence just to corresponds with my family and friend.

It's more on Mark Z to prove if his new app can compete, not the other way around.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Peanutswar on July 13, 2023, 12:55:47 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

Possible chance with this wars of the both known person into the world have a chance of a price movement, for example, if Mark overcomes all the things done by Elon there's a chance their stocks rise up the same way with the things doing by Elon at the end of the day its all about the investors choice that they could see a potential came from those service provider, at the end they are looking for the profit so they just need to wait the result. Recently they release a thread features which is already have by the twitter too but not all people compromise their use of it.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: retreat on July 13, 2023, 01:06:11 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

It would be stupid enough if Musk launched a Twitter clone when he already had full control of Twitter. Your question should be, what if Musk launched an app like Instagram or Facebook? will it be as hype as this Threads? given that Musk has the resources to be able to launch his own social media. But what's the point? innovation from social media itself is quite difficult for now. The latest to hit the market is Tiktok, but I'm quite skeptical that Musk will be able to launch a booming social media like Tiktok. Even if he ends up launching his own social media, it's just mediocre, just like what Trump did when he launched Truth Social, it's not even known by many people, because it lacks innovation and products that are less attractive.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on July 13, 2023, 02:05:08 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Elon Musk has made some mistakes experimenting with Twitter and it is affecting the company negatively. Thread came up with a more flexible policy and user-friendly option and it also gives users more options. If Twitter comes up with a clone of Twitter, its success will depend on the innovation, operation, and terms and conditions of the app. People want something new that will clearly be better than its rivals or alternative. And if the new app is widely accepted by the end users, the stock price of the company will increase. If Elon Musk comes up with a product that is better than Twitter people will gladly embrace it.

Experiments on twitter already doing great has lead to user complaining and jumping out immediately the application thread was launched. Also the Application Twitter has become more boring, more like for trolling, Joe Biden ( POTUS ), Volodymyr Zelensky, Mark Zuckerberg and many more. Ohh, this could be his own definition of the word free speech? I have noticed how he gets fewer reactions ( both likes and comments to what he says ). Honestly, I don't think this is how the head of twitch should behave, he's almost a talkative to some users now.

From what I read, seems like those layed off from twitter help in the creation and launching of twitter. He should solve problems and not imposing ideas and forcing people to stick to em.
There's no need, he should learn the lessons and improve. Launching a new twitter won't give him shit. Nothing!


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Queentoshi on July 13, 2023, 03:29:57 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Many people were already offended with Elon Musk for the changes he made to twitter when he took over. If not for the name that twitter already had and the fact that there was no alternative, twitter would have fallen a long time ago. Mark noticed this and took advantage creating a competition for Elon Musk Twitter. Elon Musk does not need to create a new platform; he just needs to make some changes to the polices he made on twitter and make it attractive since there is competition now so he can attract back the users of twitter that already left.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Davidvictorson on July 13, 2023, 04:24:39 PM
It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
The app is perfect because Elon Musk thinks he can play God on his app. Imagine restricting the number of tweets one can have access to and also paying $8 to get a blue check. This has made a lot of Twitter users not to be happy. And Threads came at the right time. It took the things that people love about Twitter and integrated Facebook and Instagram right into it. You can literally access your Instagram network without starting from scratch. This is why is was an instant success at launching. It is definitely a strong competitor, as it outlasts Twitter's financial struggles and lack of profitability. Meta stock keeps performing exceptionally well. As at the time of writing this it is at 314.43 (1.65% increase)potentially reaching all-time highs soon.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Flexystar on July 13, 2023, 05:11:48 PM
A clone app for Twitter, definitely bad idea and nothing will happen with the shares of Twitter. First let us understand that when Elon possessed Twitter it already had negative impact on the Twitter and it’s economy and we saw how he started firing the employees including its CEO. This was worst move and it could have been handled in very different way.

Secondly, it was again worst move about the blue tick. In the initial version user had to prove their identity and now anyone can buy it with money. He turned it into money making machine not for the share holders but for himself.

Third, a clone Twitter would be even worst than this.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Cookdata on July 13, 2023, 05:23:44 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/

In reality, you may found out that we are just Netizen who don't know what is happening in reality or perhaps maybe it's because everyome has become part of the internet that we don't give a damn about what is happening outside the internet. No way Elon and Mark will drag each other the way some people are speculating the whole thing, the influencers and the media are the ones fueling the everything. In the real sense, anyone can copy an idea if it's open to the public, Mark just happened to have money to create a similar idea from another perspectives, if it has been an ordinary person, Elon would have silent the creativity behind that app and lord knows how many talented develoers they have silent so far.

It will be a waste of resources if Elon decided to clone a similar app like Twitter, he would have done so in the first place before he acquire Twitter. He knows how important Twitter is to the world at large and that's why he bought  despite the hiccups that happened along the way, it's not a something to even think of right now as there are more debt to be paid off to settle Twitter payment.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: coupable on July 13, 2023, 06:54:50 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Perhaps it would have been a successful step if Elon Musk had taken it before making the decision to complete the Twitter purchase.  I mean that he launches his own platform, so he does not need to buy Twitter, which I expect to be successful due to Musk's popularity.  But he chose to invest in a bankrupt platform without taking into account the strong competition with other platforms such as Meta. 
On the other hand, I do not expect that the new "thread" application will make a major change in the social media market. All that matters is that Meta expands its profits and wants to benefit more from its users.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Gyfts on July 13, 2023, 07:51:58 PM
If Elon Musk wants to regain the trust of the users then he will have to convince the users that Twitter is still the old Twitter and the ones who will be using the platform wont be affected in any way due to the recent announcements. Or he may directly declare that he has changed his plans related to changing of Twitter, and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

In what way has Elon failed? By uncovering collusion with the U.S. government and Twitter executives to influence elections and allowing free speech on the platform? Elon hurt his own wallet by purchasing Twitter. Right now it isn't profitable. There's more trust by Twitter users than there ever was before because of the transparency that was nonexistent when partisan hacks ran the company.

I've already seen Threads censors users. Assume that Zuckerberg and government bureaucrats will use the platform to data mine its users and breach user privacy.

and even with a simple statement like this the stock price of Twitter will gain a pump within days. But, if Elon continues to stick with his announcements and ideas then in future the stock price of Twitter will fall further down to unexpected levels.

Are you at all aware that Twitter is a private company now?


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Iroh on July 13, 2023, 08:24:52 PM
Secondly, it was again worst move about the blue tick. In the initial version user had to prove their identity and now anyone can buy it with money. He turned it into money making machine not for the share holders but for himself.


I agree. The implementation of the paid verification to enable just anyone get verified and have the blue tick on your profile didn’t go down well with a lot of people. During the early stages where the paid verification was implemented, some nefarious characters tried to/ fooled a lot of people by impersonating verified accounts and some got away with it too.
Perhaps in his bid to recoup money, he got the idea of having people subscribe and pay to get verified on a free app cause funds gotten from other sources probably slowed down.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Fortify on July 14, 2023, 05:44:28 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

That was possibly one of the senseless things I've ever read. Facebook saw an opportunity to compete, by building a similar platform, with Twitter because Elon has ruined it so much. If Elon had any intelligence he would not have overpaid and then gutted the platform. He doesn't need to launch a rival because he already owns the largest version of that site in the space, he would just end up cannibalising Twitter even more.

Also, twitter shares were delisted from public listing, so all shares are privately held now and pricing is pretty much irrelevant because he is not selling any of them on the open market - there is no bump compared to Facebook.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: CarnagexD on July 15, 2023, 06:51:02 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Many people were already offended with Elon Musk for the changes he made to twitter when he took over. If not for the name that twitter already had and the fact that there was no alternative, twitter would have fallen a long time ago. Mark noticed this and took advantage creating a competition for Elon Musk Twitter. Elon Musk does not need to create a new platform; he just needs to make some changes to the polices he made on twitter and make it attractive since there is competition now so he can attract back the users of twitter that already left.

But that's not all that. If you are speaking of twitter but only referring to the owner Musk vs. Mark, well I guess you're missing a point. It's a quest between two companies not the wners. Twitter already has an established algorithm, purpose, and brand. There's content policy, free of speech. For most content creators and influencers, their main platform is twitter paying for those blue verified indicators. compared to threads, there's still a lot of improvement. Twitter has a lot of advantage to maintain its stock price, but once threads cope with those gaps it will surely blast its own trend.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on July 15, 2023, 07:32:24 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: SaveOurSea on July 15, 2023, 08:04:38 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

There is no transparency in many of Mark Zuckerberg application, I think this Threads is same firstly I noticed that it's just another version of Instagram and automatically you can get added by your friends from Instagram although some people who are in chase of increased followers but people like me that love privacy aren't cool with it.

I have stayed on the application for a while and if the intention was for threads to compete with Twitter then I don't see any competition, Twitter is on a league of its own and mark Zuckerberg should not expect to dethrone Twitter. I think threads hype would die down in few days .
Indeed, so far no one has been able to compete with Twitter but with Threads at least it makes competition even though it will be difficult,
I think we need to look at the positive side,
and regarding the hype it seems that we can see that from the beginning they started switching to Threads now they are back to Twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: ololajulo on July 15, 2023, 08:15:18 PM
Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Darker45 on July 16, 2023, 02:45:52 AM
I haven't used the new app, but I wouldn't be surprised if Meta would one day release an app like that. Meta's intention may not really be hard to guess. There's a certain kind of beauty in Twitter's design and Meta is probably aware of it and would want to have their own version. Could this be an experiment? Yes and no. Yes, because every new release is a test. You wouldn't know whether people would embrace it or not. At the same time, no, because it isn't entirely new. Part of the plan is to compete against Musk's Twitter.

It isn't an Instagram clone because you can do away with images. You can make text-only posts.

Why would Musk clone his own app? If Musk is to create a new platform, it would be similar to a competing platform like TikTok or YouTube or Instagram. Meta's Instagram team created Thread to put up a competitor against Twitter. So, Twitter team would probably not create a competitor against itself but against another app.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 16, 2023, 05:00:54 AM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
The question is what's the main purpose of threads that Zuckerberg has been added? I'm using Meta for a very long time already, and I don't think that I will be using this threads.

I'm also thinking that this threads has been created just because of the beef between Zuckerberg, and Elon Musk. I mean it has been released while they have a beef with each other. You already said that it's just a mere clone of Instagram, so maybe this threads will just die in a year or two if most Instagram users find Instagram better than threads. If not then some might switch, make a transition from Instagram to Threads.

To answer your question, I don't know the reason why Elon will create an app same as threads? I mean Elon Musk already said that Twitter cash flow is negative due to ad revenue declines, ‘heavy debt’ base on this article: LINK (https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/15/elon-musk-says-twitter-cash-flow-remains-negative-with-heavy-debt-.html?__source=twitter%7Ctech&taid=64b2ed10a756b90001e263d5&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter). I don't see any reason as to why Elon needs to create a clone of his Twitter app. For competition purposes? It's pretty obvious that the trend of Twitter is declining, and now he will create a clone of his own app? That's nonsense if you will ask me.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 16, 2023, 05:26:04 AM
Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter
Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: el kaka22 on July 16, 2023, 06:11:50 PM
Twitters stock itself can't rise at the moment, it sucks and has been getting worse and worse over time as well, we can't really see it grow bigger until Elon sells it. You have to accept, no matter how much YOU may like him, he is not liked overall by the bigger population, twitter is not used by people who like him a lot neither, I am not saying there are none, just the amount of people who doesn't is bigger, and we can see this from horrible drop in ad revenue as well, even their twitter blue is not making them enough profit.

So all in all I have to say it is getting worse and will keep getting worse as well. Twitter one day will be gone, it is not going to be easy, but it will happen and when it does, it is going to hurt his finances a lot.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: justdimin on July 17, 2023, 09:48:30 AM
Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter
Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.
I think it's normal for a platform to lose its users but they can also gain users. Twitter was the second biggest social media site next to FB (if I'm correct) so their users are also high. Stockholders should care about the users or its numbers because this is what makes a company successful. They are the ones who avail a product inside the platform. Maybe it's only one of the strategy of Elon to reduce his employees to maximize his income?

And I can see that he add some features which can make him earn more money. Another reason for the employees being laid off is because of its new management and he might be planning to replace those employees with a new one.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Wildwest on July 17, 2023, 12:59:06 PM
If Elon Musk launches a clone of Twitter then I am not sure users can increase so quickly, because since buying Twitter shares there are many complaints that we hear, so it is very difficult to follow Mark Zuckerberg who is currently designing a new application that will continue to compete in the world of social media, especially Mark Zuckerberg does have his own expertise in designing each application and it has been proven on Meta which is currently experiencing an increase in users.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: ololajulo on July 17, 2023, 08:16:23 PM
Zuckerberg has accumulated his wealth through technology advancements, and I believe his experience in this field will prove valuable, even though not all of his technology projects have been successful. On the other hand, Elon Musk's perceived arrogance and disregard for the customer base have led many to contemplate alternative platforms if they exist for Twitter
Twitter as a platform was losing users even before Elon, however once Elon took over Twitter they have lost way more users, however while this may sound like a bad thing, and in a way it is, stockholders at the end only care about the profitability of the company and not about the number of active users.

And in that regard I am not so sure if Elon is doing so badly as he has reduced the expenses of the company as many people got fired as well, so it is possible his administration has not been as bad as we think it has been.

hope that the report detailing Twitter's revenue for the year will be publicly released at the end of the year. This will allow us to assess its success in generating revenue. Personally, I am not in favor of purchasing at such a high price without a significant return. It seems that Elon Musk is unaware of how the app operates and fails to acknowledge the users' high level of interest


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 19, 2023, 06:49:14 AM
Twitter, as much as many artists and well-known individuals are using it, is already a slowly dying platform. Most businesses and artists are using Instagram more to reach out and connect with their target audience. The appearance of Threads most likely did not trigger any threat against Twitter but it surely emphasize just how bad the platform is getting.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 22, 2023, 04:08:39 AM
Twitter, as much as many artists and well-known individuals are using it, is already a slowly dying platform. Most businesses and artists are using Instagram more to reach out and connect with their target audience. The appearance of Threads most likely did not trigger any threat against Twitter but it surely emphasize just how bad the platform is getting.
And this happens all the time, I still remember when myspace first came out and people thought it was the best thing on the world, and while it was able to gain many users quickly eventually cleaner and better platforms like Twitter and Facebook appeared and now no one uses myspace anymore.

So as much as some people may have some attachment to Twitter, it seems it is on its way to been replaced and unless Elon can reverse that trend then it is likely Elon will lose a lot of money once he tries to sell Twitter on the future.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 22, 2023, 05:20:55 AM
It's easy to gain new users for this Threads app, since Meta owns Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp.
It's pretty clear at this point that Threads was built to be Twitter's competitor and maybe it will attract all the advertisers, who left Twitter.
I hear news about Zuckerberg hiring people, who were fired at Twitter by Elon Musk(and Musk isn't happy at all).
Meta stocks are getting a short term price pump, because the investors have positive expectations about Threads.
The idea of Elon Musk building a Twitter clone app is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The only right move for Musk would be to leave/sell Twitter.


This is true, Threads is obviously the main competitor of Twitter right now. Additionally, with all the recent changes that Musk added to Twitter, users are getting more and more reasons to leave the platform. At this point, the already dying Twitter will soon be below Threads once celebrities and influencers transition to Threads.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on July 22, 2023, 05:50:54 AM
Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 23, 2023, 03:18:42 AM
Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

Exactly. The way Twitter is now, it wouldn't be long before it dies. Even today most celebrities, public figures and businesses are using Instagram to connect to their target audience. Twitter, which used to be a big thing for fandoms and communities, has truly lost its appeal, specially when Musk decided to make such obnoxious changes that only benefited him and not the users.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: fuguebtc on July 23, 2023, 03:54:15 AM
Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

Exactly. The way Twitter is now, it wouldn't be long before it dies. Even today most celebrities, public figures and businesses are using Instagram to connect to their target audience. Twitter, which used to be a big thing for fandoms and communities, has truly lost its appeal, specially when Musk decided to make such obnoxious changes that only benefited him and not the users.


I also disagree with Elon's new changes to Twitter, what he is doing is for his own pocket rather than creating fairness for Twitter users and developers. But just with the Threads app created by Mark, and believes it's possible to beat Elon is impossible. Have you used Threads? It's really so bad that it looks like an Instagram clone and doesn't have any improvements. It creates temporary hype, but at the end of the day, people turn to Twitter again. Therefore, predicting this social network will soon die is incorrect, I disagree.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Jating on July 23, 2023, 09:10:46 PM
Elon is running Twitter into the ground. He is not capable of properly managing a social media platform. People who are politically aligned with Musk benefit from getting higher visibility on their tweets. Also a ton of spam, scam and troll accounts are getting boosted merely by purchasing a blue checkmark. People don't want to join a site that is biased and elevating junk content. Musk chased away advertisers and admitted that Twitter is losing money. I don't really see how they will be able to make their product more valuable.

Exactly. The way Twitter is now, it wouldn't be long before it dies. Even today most celebrities, public figures and businesses are using Instagram to connect to their target audience. Twitter, which used to be a big thing for fandoms and communities, has truly lost its appeal, specially when Musk decided to make such obnoxious changes that only benefited him and not the users.

Well when he acquire it, we all know that there will be changes for sure. Because if there are none, then we might think that it is still with the previous owners. So Musk make his presence felt with a lot of changes and most of it, we didn't like.

But Twitter remains one of the biggest social media platform and that's why Mark Z is trying to compete with it and take a big chunk on the pie. I will admit that I downloaded Threads, but I haven't used it like I used Twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: molsewid on July 23, 2023, 09:27:02 PM

Well when he acquire it, we all know that there will be changes for sure. Because if there are none, then we might think that it is still with the previous owners. So Musk make his presence felt with a lot of changes and most of it, we didn't like.

But Twitter remains one of the biggest social media platform and that's why Mark Z is trying to compete with it and take a big chunk on the pie. I will admit that I downloaded Threads, but I haven't used it like I used Twitter.
I agree, we all know that Twitter reqllh helpful in crypto industry. And up until now we can use that to shill our projects and to reach more people. Having a competitor doesn't mean the stock price will move, it is good that twitter has a rival, why?  it can be improve and we will be heard most of the time we can make sure the continues improvement of it because of its rival.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on July 23, 2023, 11:35:48 PM
Honestly i just don't think twitter would ever regain its former glory, though the past of twitter are fully infested with spams, current state of twitter is no different either, its just even worse.
considering the fact that everything is all based on subscription in twitter, I don't think it will hold for long.
many would definitely think that subscription for twitter would be waste of money since there are other social media thats recently gaining fame one of them would be thread.
though i think twitter will still have so much users but it will decline, regardless though thats just my speculation the real circumstance of twitter will be shown when they publish the statistics of their company.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Flexystar on July 24, 2023, 01:30:23 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Perhaps it would have been a successful step if Elon Musk had taken it before making the decision to complete the Twitter purchase.  I mean that he launches his own platform, so he does not need to buy Twitter, which I expect to be successful due to Musk's popularity.  But he chose to invest in a bankrupt platform without taking into account the strong competition with other platforms such as Meta. 
On the other hand, I do not expect that the new "thread" application will make a major change in the social media market. All that matters is that Meta expands its profits and wants to benefit more from its users.

That could have been possibility. Since Elons most of the self made projects are way better and has extra ordinary values over the time. I mean it would have been fun if he launched some company based on this idea then investors would have rushed to buy the whole stock thing at pre launch itself. It’s the name that would speak in this case.

As you mentioned he done decision that could have waited and gave him idea to build something from the scratch. In Twitters case, things went horribly wrong since firing the employees, changing many workflows, making blue badges available publicly and much more made it worse.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Ahli38 on July 24, 2023, 02:02:59 PM
Honestly i just don't think twitter would ever regain its former glory, though the past of twitter are fully infested with spams, current state of twitter is no different either, its just even worse.
considering the fact that everything is all based on subscription in twitter, I don't think it will hold for long.
many would definitely think that subscription for twitter would be waste of money since there are other social media thats recently gaining fame one of them would be thread.
though i think twitter will still have so much users but it will decline, regardless though thats just my speculation the real circumstance of twitter will be shown when they publish the statistics of their company.
In fact, from several news media, I found that according to Elon's statement, Twitter's revenue from advertisements had indeed decreased. In fact, the decline had reached almost half. And I think this is indeed a serious problem for Twitter. So yesterday Elon planned to replace the Twitter Logo as one of his efforts to direct Twitter to a new path through rebranding. And now the twitter logo has changed to an X. (Sourch (https://t.me/telonews_id/7141))

I don't know what Elon will do with Twitter in the future. But he definitely had a plan that he had been preparing for a long time. I don't think someone like Elon would do anything without proper planning. He is a reliable businessman and inventor. So he must be doing something we don't know about. But if it's about excellence in social media platforms. So I don't think Elon is proficient in this field.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: coupable on July 25, 2023, 09:47:33 PM
We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Perhaps it would have been a successful step if Elon Musk had taken it before making the decision to complete the Twitter purchase.  I mean that he launches his own platform, so he does not need to buy Twitter, which I expect to be successful due to Musk's popularity.  But he chose to invest in a bankrupt platform without taking into account the strong competition with other platforms such as Meta. 
On the other hand, I do not expect that the new "thread" application will make a major change in the social media market. All that matters is that Meta expands its profits and wants to benefit more from its users.

That could have been possibility. Since Elons most of the self made projects are way better and has extra ordinary values over the time. I mean it would have been fun if he launched some company based on this idea then investors would have rushed to buy the whole stock thing at pre launch itself. It’s the name that would speak in this case.

As you mentioned he done decision that could have waited and gave him idea to build something from the scratch. In Twitters case, things went horribly wrong since firing the employees, changing many workflows, making blue badges available publicly and much more made it worse.
In a continuation of the strange decisions, we find him now changing the logo of the platform, which it was famous for as a distinctive slogan for years.  No one is able to comprehend this step or to understand how it can contribute to the development of the platform, whose current priorities are to provide more revenues to at least cover the cost of the transaction.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Captain Corporate on July 25, 2023, 10:56:05 PM
With how things are going with "X" thingy, there is this "gave up" mindset I am seeing more and more about twitter lately. People disliked what Elon was doing, and the peak of that was that 600-800-1000 tweets per day that kept on going up with more hate, but that was the peak point where everyone hated Elon for what he did to twitter. But people are just giving up lately, not like they started to like it or anything, but they are like "he did what again? oh christ" and just move on. Thats why I think he is capable of doing more and more these days and it will still not hurt that much, it will just be whatever it is. I am not expecting it to get any better though, that doesn't seem to have a chance.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on July 26, 2023, 06:05:42 AM
With how things are going with "X" thingy, there is this "gave up" mindset I am seeing more and more about twitter lately. People disliked what Elon was doing, and the peak of that was that 600-800-1000 tweets per day that kept on going up with more hate, but that was the peak point where everyone hated Elon for what he did to twitter. But people are just giving up lately, not like they started to like it or anything, but they are like "he did what again? oh christ" and just move on. Thats why I think he is capable of doing more and more these days and it will still not hurt that much, it will just be whatever it is. I am not expecting it to get any better though, that doesn't seem to have a chance.

The "X" rebranding is one of the dumbest things I have seen from a company. The brand name is part of the network effect that has made Twitter into one of the largest social media platforms. He is trying to turn it into an app that does more than just social media but if the core part of what attracted people in the first place is being run so poorly how can we really expect X to have success building on top of the current foundation. Twitter is already losing a lot of money and they will lose more by adding new features nobody really asked for.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: CryptoBuds on July 26, 2023, 07:57:50 AM
With how things are going with "X" thingy, there is this "gave up" mindset I am seeing more and more about twitter lately. People disliked what Elon was doing, and the peak of that was that 600-800-1000 tweets per day that kept on going up with more hate, but that was the peak point where everyone hated Elon for what he did to twitter. But people are just giving up lately, not like they started to like it or anything, but they are like "he did what again? oh christ" and just move on. Thats why I think he is capable of doing more and more these days and it will still not hurt that much, it will just be whatever it is. I am not expecting it to get any better though, that doesn't seem to have a chance.

The "X" rebranding is one of the dumbest things I have seen from a company. The brand name is part of the network effect that has made Twitter into one of the largest social media platforms. He is trying to turn it into an app that does more than just social media but if the core part of what attracted people in the first place is being run so poorly how can we really expect X to have success building on top of the current foundation. Twitter is already losing a lot of money and they will lose more by adding new features nobody really asked for.

It's silly to you but it's one of Elon's favorite things, and the core of the social network twitter comes from its foundation, the services it provides to users, not the name, the name does not say anything about the quality of your product. I don't mind about him rebranding, what I care about is that he is adding new features that users don't really like, as you said. But it's his company, and he has his own strategy. Although many people dislike him for the monstrous things he does, there is no denying that he is still the wealthiest and most talented man in the world.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on July 26, 2023, 03:16:32 PM
I am not saying this on any authority but I would say that Twitter is heading to "extinction". With all that is happening I'd have to question any investor who either still have confidence in Twitter stocks or who is yet to sell of their stock.
And this is all the fault of Elon Musk who is running Twitter like a dictator or solopreneur. I am utterly disappointed. The reason why people are still on the app is because they are thinking about how they'll get their followers if they move to another app. I predict that in the next 5 years, Twitter will either close down or be sold of to another company.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: coupable on July 26, 2023, 04:48:22 PM
I am not saying this on any authority but I would say that Twitter is heading to "extinction". With all that is happening I'd have to question any investor who either still have confidence in Twitter stocks or who is yet to sell of their stock.
And this is all the fault of Elon Musk who is running Twitter like a dictator or solopreneur. I am utterly disappointed. The reason why people are still on the app is because they are thinking about how they'll get their followers if they move to another app. I predict that in the next 5 years, Twitter will either close down or be sold of to another company.
5 years is a very long time for a platform in Twitter mode. I don't think it will hold up that long.
The platform has been achieving annual losses since 2011 and has only achieved revenues for two consecutive years during the Corona period (quarantine), then its revenues declined further during the first half of the current year 2023 by 50 percent, despite the fact that Elon Musk’s decisions were to lay off half of the employees and impose fees on Authentication marks. These measures led to the opposite results than what was expected, and the most important thing that happened was the decline in the number of users of the platform, including well-known companies. What can be expected from a platform that loses and still needs financial support?


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: tbct_mt2 on July 27, 2023, 11:17:59 AM
The platform has been achieving annual losses since 2011 and has only achieved revenues for two consecutive years during the Corona period (quarantine), then its revenues declined further during the first half of the current year 2023 by 50 percent, despite the fact that Elon Musk’s decisions were to lay off half of the employees and impose fees on Authentication marks.
I don't know did Musk read those financial reports before he tweeted that he will buy Twitter and stucked with that deal?

If Elon actually read such reports but still wanted to acquire Twitter, he did it for his vision to build his super application X. Buying Twitter is his first step to build up X ecosystem, all in one like he tweeted.

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These measures led to the opposite results than what was expected, and the most important thing that happened was the decline in the number of users of the platform, including well-known companies. What can be expected from a platform that loses and still needs financial support?
I think the decision of Elon Musk to lay off half of Twitter staffs months ago as well as tried to sell some assets of Twitter are good decisions.

However it has side effects that serious decisions which were made abruptly by Elon Musk caused a lot of fear in Twitter investors as well as companies, corporations that want to advertise on Twitter. Twitter lost a lot of advertisement deals after latest strategic changes from Elon Musk.

The "X" rebranding is one of the dumbest things I have seen from a company. The brand name is part of the network effect that has made Twitter into one of the largest social media platforms. He is trying to turn it into an app that does more than just social media but if the core part of what attracted people in the first place is being run so poorly how can we really expect X to have success building on top of the current foundation. Twitter is already losing a lot of money and they will lose more by adding new features nobody really asked for.
He is obsessed with the name X years ago with one of his companies and X.com used to be a domain name of Paypal. Elon Must planed to build up X like a supper app that is a USA. version of Wechat. He will not build it as a copy cat of Wechat from China but he wants to have such massive usability for his X and Twitter is a first brick for his X.

Elon will add more products on top of Twitter, now X.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: NotATether on July 27, 2023, 11:46:04 AM
The "X" rebranding is one of the dumbest things I have seen from a company. The brand name is part of the network effect that has made Twitter into one of the largest social media platforms. He is trying to turn it into an app that does more than just social media but if the core part of what attracted people in the first place is being run so poorly how can we really expect X to have success building on top of the current foundation. Twitter is already losing a lot of money and they will lose more by adding new features nobody really asked for.
He is obsessed with the name X years ago with one of his companies and X.com used to be a domain name of Paypal. Elon Must planed to build up X like a supper app that is a USA. version of Wechat. He will not build it as a copy cat of Wechat from China but he wants to have such massive usability for his X and Twitter is a first brick for his X.

Elon will add more products on top of Twitter, now X.

I wonder where Elon's getting his cash from for running X because this service is losing billions of dollars on a yearly basis. Maybe his Saudi investors are just shouldering the loss, because otherwise there's no way that this operating loss can continue to be accumulated over time as eventually the other investors would just back out.

At this point, I'm thinking that it could even be under the umbrella of the Public Investment Fund in the future if it isn't already, like Uber.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: coupable on July 27, 2023, 05:19:01 PM
The platform has been achieving annual losses since 2011 and has only achieved revenues for two consecutive years during the Corona period (quarantine), then its revenues declined further during the first half of the current year 2023 by 50 percent, despite the fact that Elon Musk’s decisions were to lay off half of the employees and impose fees on Authentication marks.
I don't know did Musk read those financial reports before he tweeted that he will buy Twitter and stucked with that deal?

If Elon actually read such reports but still wanted to acquire Twitter, he did it for his vision to build his super application X. Buying Twitter is his first step to build up X ecosystem, all in one like he tweeted.

Quote
These measures led to the opposite results than what was expected, and the most important thing that happened was the decline in the number of users of the platform, including well-known companies. What can be expected from a platform that loses and still needs financial support?
I think the decision of Elon Musk to lay off half of Twitter staffs months ago as well as tried to sell some assets of Twitter are good decisions.

However it has side effects that serious decisions which were made abruptly by Elon Musk caused a lot of fear in Twitter investors as well as companies, corporations that want to advertise on Twitter. Twitter lost a lot of advertisement deals after latest strategic changes from Elon Musk.
I do not think that Elon Musk has ignored all these reports about the financial situation of the Twitter platform, and perhaps on the basis of that he thought of buying it. The problem is not in buying the platform, because there are certainly ways to address its situation and work to fix it, but this is not supposed to include proposing an imaginary price for the deal that the first owners of the platform did not dream of. Also, the first decisions that were taken did not lead to satisfactory results, on the contrary, the platform crisis increased.
Whatever Elon Musk's dreams and their ability to be realized, I am still convinced that his entry into the social media market was not his wisest decision, and that the repercussions of that began to appear early.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: marcous on July 27, 2023, 07:10:34 PM
I wonder where Elon's getting his cash from for running X because this service is losing billions of dollars on a yearly basis. Maybe his Saudi investors are just shouldering the loss, because otherwise there's no way that this operating loss can continue to be accumulated over time as eventually the other investors would just back out.

At this point, I'm thinking that it could even be under the umbrella of the Public Investment Fund in the future if it isn't already, like Uber.
It's true that I also ask the same thing because in a lot of news in the media, Twitter suffers a lot of losses every year. Their newest source of income is just premium users or Twitter Blue. The latest Twitter is changing the Logo Platform or Rebranding, many say this seems like killing themselves and is quite dangerous for their financial position.

It could be that if this right decision will bring Twitter to significant profits, Elon Musk plans to make X a superapp. X will provide a new feel for users, maybe the shape is close to social media commerce or the like.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: JoyMarsha on July 27, 2023, 10:18:33 PM
Until now the app called thread is unusable like there is no search apart from user profiles and also most of the users are redirected from Instagram which is also owned by Meta/Mark so the numbers are too huge with no engagement at all. To keep the members alive they need to make changes as soon as possible or else the threads app will become just another Instagram.

Twitter is also struggling due to multiple factors and Mark took this as opportunity to launch a killer app.
The killer app that we thought would rival Twitter ends up failing. Elon Musk is currently exerting every effort to turn Twitter into a "Everything App."
The attention that Thread drew in a mass number of users, during her early creation, has reduced quite significantly. Many of its users on Instagram have realized that there is nothing remarkable that makes it beat or compete with Twitter. Just within a month, the hype that was given to Thread is far gone and nobody seems to talk about her. 


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: o48o on July 27, 2023, 11:59:01 PM
The "X" rebranding is one of the dumbest things I have seen from a company. The brand name is part of the network effect that has made Twitter into one of the largest social media platforms. He is trying to turn it into an app that does more than just social media but if the core part of what attracted people in the first place is being run so poorly how can we really expect X to have success building on top of the current foundation. Twitter is already losing a lot of money and they will lose more by adding new features nobody really asked for.

Imagine how pissed off he will be when people keep using old name and old terms. He literally managed to kill twitter. It's a brand that took 16-17 years to build. Changed it to brand name and to logo X, that he can't most likely even own as it's from a font pack and microsoft owns the rights for brand "X" in social media context.

He really should have kept more staff preventing him to do what ever. I am guessing that his most successful firms are running because there are people buffering between him and actual engineers.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Sayeds56 on July 28, 2023, 12:48:53 AM
It is true that Elon musk's some experiments with twitter didn't go well for the company and led to controversies. However, it is possible that something better and innovative is in the works, which will provide customers with more flexibilities and options. As a visionary and creative entrepreneur, he is well aware that we are living in a highly competitive world, hence there is a possibility new changes in twitter might get a better response from its users and adds value to its stock and overall market perception..


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dansus021 on July 28, 2023, 02:50:55 AM
It is true that Elon musk's some experiments with twitter didn't go well for the company and led to controversies. However, it is possible that something better and innovative is in the works, which will provide customers with more flexibilities and options for the customers. As a visionary and creative entrepreneur, he is well aware that we are living in a highly competitive world, hence there is a possibility new changes in twitter might get a better response from its users and adds value to its stock and overall market perception..

yeah I also agree with you because Elon Musk is a businessman and I remember when he got an interview about spaceX and he said that I never give up and now we can see that SpaceX is success as a private spaceflight.

Secondly maybe also happen to Twitter he not going to buy blindly without knowing what he doing, maybe there is something going on. and after the deal elon musk has privatized the twitter so there no Twitter stock right now and the financial statement out there could be wrong because the private company not going to report their financial statement



Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Smack That Ace on July 28, 2023, 05:43:10 AM
It is true that Elon musk's some experiments with twitter didn't go well for the company and led to controversies. However, it is possible that something better and innovative is in the works, which will provide customers with more flexibilities and options for the customers. As a visionary and creative entrepreneur, he is well aware that we are living in a highly competitive world, hence there is a possibility new changes in twitter might get a better response from its users and adds value to its stock and overall market perception..

yeah I also agree with you because Elon Musk is a businessman and I remember when he got an interview about spaceX and he said that I never give up and now we can see that SpaceX is success as a private spaceflight.

Secondly maybe also happen to Twitter he not going to buy blindly without knowing what he doing, maybe there is something going on. and after the deal elon musk has privatized the twitter so there no Twitter stock right now and the financial statement out there could be wrong because the private company not going to report their financial statement


The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: wxa7115 on July 28, 2023, 05:43:30 AM
It is true that Elon musk's some experiments with twitter didn't go well for the company and led to controversies. However, it is possible that something better and innovative is in the works, which will provide customers with more flexibilities and options for the customers. As a visionary and creative entrepreneur, he is well aware that we are living in a highly competitive world, hence there is a possibility new changes in twitter might get a better response from its users and adds value to its stock and overall market perception..

yeah I also agree with you because Elon Musk is a businessman and I remember when he got an interview about spaceX and he said that I never give up and now we can see that SpaceX is success as a private spaceflight.

Secondly maybe also happen to Twitter he not going to buy blindly without knowing what he doing, maybe there is something going on. and after the deal elon musk has privatized the twitter so there no Twitter stock right now and the financial statement out there could be wrong because the private company not going to report their financial statement


While this is a fine explanation, Twitter could also be the beginning of the end for Elon, one of the thing with those which believe to have the Midas touch is that eventually they invest in markets in which they do not really have any knowledge about them, make a bad purchase and spend too much effort trying to remedy their mistake instead of simply admitting they were wrong.

And this could happen to Elon, because as brilliant as he is as a businessman, he is not infallible, and Twitter could become a very expensive mistake for Elon.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Iroh on July 28, 2023, 06:02:46 AM
The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

Haven’t you heard? The bird is leaving the picture and there won’t be a twitter anymore. X is going to taking over the spotlight. For how long, I don’t know.
When you proclaim Elon to be a genius, it’s obvious you’re a fan as it’s also obvious(to me at least)from your post that you're defending his poor handling of twitter since he took over.

I wouldn’t exactly say people are gloating over the fact that Twitter seems to be going downhill since Elons takeover. And you’re right, business isn’t always smooth.
About taking twitter back to its old glory days, I think that ship has long sailed. Twitter may never go back to how it used to be and that’s currently being proven by its future rebranding from a bird to an X.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 28, 2023, 06:10:32 AM
The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

Haven’t you heard? The bird is leaving the picture and there won’t be a twitter anymore. X is going to taking over the spotlight. For how long, I don’t know.
When you proclaim Elon to be a genius, it’s obvious you’re a fan as it’s also obvious(to me at least)from your post that you're defending his poor handling of twitter since he took over.

I wouldn’t exactly say people are gloating over the fact that Twitter seems to be going downhill since Elons takeover. And you’re right, business isn’t always smooth.
About taking twitter back to its old glory days, I think that ship has long sailed. Twitter may never go back to how it used to be and that’s currently being proven by its future rebranding from a bird to an X.

I was just about to go back here and say that. You're right, Twitter will not go back to its old days when it used to dominate other social platforms. The new changes that comes with the rebranding of Twitter to X throws a lot of users off. Many are slowly leaving Twitter to use Instagram or Threads.

So I think this one is a pretty bad move from Elon.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Sayeds56 on July 28, 2023, 06:51:17 AM
The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

While, It is true that financial statement reflect the true financial condition of a company for a specific period. However, the stock price of a company not necessarily shows its true value, as generally stock markets operate on perception and sentiments driven by big players. A notable example is covide-19 era, when stock market went bullish despite global economy facing significant challenges. Another crucial factor is, rising interest rates, which is affecting profitability of many sectors of the economy. Looking ahead , we should wait for the release of new version of twitter, and how it comes up to expectations of its users. This significant aspect could potentially determine the future prospects of twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: posi on July 28, 2023, 03:19:11 PM
The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

Haven’t you heard? The bird is leaving the picture and there won’t be a twitter anymore. X is going to taking over the spotlight. For how long, I don’t know.
When you proclaim Elon to be a genius, it’s obvious you’re a fan as it’s also obvious(to me at least)from your post that you're defending his poor handling of twitter since he took over.

I wouldn’t exactly say people are gloating over the fact that Twitter seems to be going downhill since Elons takeover. And you’re right, business isn’t always smooth.
About taking twitter back to its old glory days, I think that ship has long sailed. Twitter may never go back to how it used to be and that’s currently being proven by its future rebranding from a bird to an X.

I was just about to go back here and say that. You're right, Twitter will not go back to its old days when it used to dominate other social platforms. The new changes that comes with the rebranding of Twitter to X throws a lot of users off. Many are slowly leaving Twitter to use Instagram or Threads.

So I think this one is a pretty bad move from Elon.

I have the opposite opinion, Elon rebranded Twitter because he wanted something bigger and we should not jump to conclusions when everything is still unknown.

I'm a longtime Twitter user, although the recent changes make me uncomfortable, I'm fine with my free account. Can you tell me, who is leaving Twitter and using Threads? As I can see, people were excited in the early days of Threads' launch but then they rushed back to Twitter.
We don't need to find evidence far away, let's take ourselves as evidence. I tried with Threads and also deleted it shortly after because it was so bad. And you, which one are you using?


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: khiholangkang on July 28, 2023, 03:40:10 PM
The financial statements are not wrong, Twitter is losing money is true, but that doesn't mean it's dead or Elon has failed. I find it quite amusing that so many people have started criticizing or gloating when Twitter has gone downhill since it was acquired by Elon. But they forget that business is not always smooth, especially when we are going through a severe economic crisis. Maybe he and Twitter are going through tough times, but I don't think he would be stupid to spend $46 billion without knowing what he's doing. Don't forget that he is the richest man in the world and he runs 5 different companies. Meanwhile, who are the people who laugh at him, and what success have they achieved?

I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

While, It is true that financial statement reflect the true financial condition of a company for a specific period. However, the stock price of a company not necessarily shows its true value, as generally stock markets operate on perception and sentiments driven by big players. A notable example is covide-19 era, when stock market went bullish despite global economy facing significant challenges. Another crucial factor is, rising interest rates, which is affecting profitability of many sectors of the economy. Looking ahead , we should wait for the release of new version of twitter, and how it comes up to expectations of its users. This significant aspect could potentially determine the future prospects of twitter.


I identify that indeed the Covid-19 era is the peak in all areas of stocks, crypto and others, and I think that is because there is a large supply of money circulating in society, which on average is also that the increase in investors is very high, it shows the situation that many people who put their money into investment assets, what happened to Twitter is the same, and I think it's unfair if only Twitter is highlighted, there are still many other companies in the same field that have experienced a significant decline after Covid19 ended, and money started to be withdrawn by the government by raising interest rates, which is a step to stabilize the circulation of money.

So in my opinion it is normal in the cycle that occurs in the world of stocks today, including bitcoin, and of course if Twitter is still productive and in the future, of course it will definitely increase again to their highest point last year.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: eaLiTy on July 28, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
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I don't see the price of twitter stock increasing any time soon unless Elon passes the ownership over to someone more capable than him, and someone who really knows how to run a social media business more than charging people 8 bucks so they could enjoy the full experience that they were able to anyway before he came in.
Spoiler alert, Twitter is not listed in stock exchanges anymore once Elon Musk purchased them for $44 Billion and now it is a private company. It was a blunder to spend this much money to purchase Twitter and he has to find ways to recover the amount and with the advertisers moving away it was his idea to charge for a blue tick with some extra perks.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: rat03gopoh on July 28, 2023, 04:55:42 PM
I was just about to go back here and say that. You're right, Twitter will not go back to its old days when it used to dominate other social platforms. The new changes that comes with the rebranding of Twitter to X throws a lot of users off. Many are slowly leaving Twitter to use Instagram or Threads.

So I think this one is a pretty bad move from Elon.

I assess Elon Musk's competency more on technology innovations oriented towards real use, remember that he acquired Twitter out of "compulsion"[1].
So, I don't see Twitter's recent changes as initiatives to beat competing platforms, it's nothing more than random ideas from quick thoughts. For the richest man in the world, losing Twitter's valuation probably won't bankrupt him.


1. https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/12/elon-musk-admits-he-only-bought-twitter-because-he-thought-hed-be-forced-to


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Poorman2 on July 28, 2023, 05:51:13 PM
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Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: teosanru on July 28, 2023, 06:20:10 PM
Some few days ago, Mark Zuckerberg launched a new app called Thread. The whole netzines are wondering what his intention. Could this be an experiment. The shocking though expected of it is that a few hours after it was launched, it recorded success both in the number of users who signed up to use the app and most importantly on Meta's stock. However, looking critically at the app we can it is obvious that it is merely Instagram clone.

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/07/05/meta-stock-soars-to-18-month-high-ahead-of-instagram-threads-launch/
Recently what I saw was Twitter going down because of renaming it's name to X so I am not sure how high will Twitter stock experience this. Also meta now is a very different stock if you compare it with X. It's more related to metaverse and technology and not only social networking while Twitter right now is just social networking.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on July 28, 2023, 07:04:55 PM
I've been told by friends that "Thread" is just a facebook version of Twitter, which I hate both Facebook and Twitter almost equally, so I sure as hell won't be using Thread ever. 

I think Twitter is a massive pile of steaming shit.  I just saw where SnapChat's shares have been down for 5 or 6 quarters in a row now, and I think that the same can and will eventually happen to Twitter.  Elon is not nearly as intelligent as everyone thinks, and he's already started making a ton of stupid mistakes on the site.  It's a warzone shit hole more so than it's ever been..with him leading the way with petty teenage kid childish like behavior. What a joke. 

I expect it to fail eventually. Long down the road, but eventually ..it'll become MySpace.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: molsewid on July 28, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
It is true that Elon musk's some experiments with twitter didn't go well for the company and led to controversies. However, it is possible that something better and innovative is in the works, which will provide customers with more flexibilities and options for the customers. As a visionary and creative entrepreneur, he is well aware that we are living in a highly competitive world, hence there is a possibility new changes in twitter might get a better response from its users and adds value to its stock and overall market perception..
Yes, they are actually in transition period. It is expected to have some issues but I know it will resolve soon, I am just wondering why he made the Twitter logo as "X" is he trying to rebrand Twitter? but all in all what I hate in new feature of Twitter I can't send message if someone doesn't following me, sometimes I am sending messages to our telecommunication company if we don't have internet but because of that I can't do it anymore.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dansus021 on July 29, 2023, 02:55:38 AM
I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

After Elon buy Twitter the Financial Statement is not fully declared to the public, I think because if he had revenue loss he had twitter blue revenue that we dont know

I would agree with you he is a genius and now he turned Twitter into X the media have said it going to be multi-app. And recent news he wants to pay the creator from the ad-revenue.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Strongkored on July 29, 2023, 04:17:23 AM
do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
If he's already lost so much from Twitter, is it possible that anyone would trust him to buy stock in a company that's already practically a failure? of course investors will think again about doing it so Elon Musk will focus more on trying to improve Twitter than following Mark's steps by launching a new application, and it seems that Elon cannot compete with Mark in terms of social media because Mark looks more skilled at developing successful social media applications compared to Elon, who is said to have suffered huge losses since he took over twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 29, 2023, 07:08:37 AM
do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
If he's already lost so much from Twitter, is it possible that anyone would trust him to buy stock in a company that's already practically a failure? of course investors will think again about doing it so Elon Musk will focus more on trying to improve Twitter than following Mark's steps by launching a new application, and it seems that Elon cannot compete with Mark in terms of social media because Mark looks more skilled at developing successful social media applications compared to Elon, who is said to have suffered huge losses since he took over twitter.

I agree with you. Mark is showing that he has nearly perfected the formula for social media platforms development. Soon enough Threads will be the next big thing as it connected to literally one, if not the biggest, platform right now which is Instagram. Once users starts seeing that the changes from X is still not as good as they wanted it to be people will go for Threads.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Iroh on July 29, 2023, 08:28:10 AM
After Elon buy Twitter the Financial Statement is not fully declared to the public, I think because if he had revenue loss he had twitter blue revenue that we dont know

I would agree with you he is a genius and now he turned Twitter into X the media have said it going to be multi-app. And recent news he wants to pay the creator from the ad-revenue.

I doubt the revenue gotten from selling out verification mark to users would match the revenue gotten from advertising companies that had quit the platform. In a bid to recoup some funds lost due to his poor handling as well as other factors, he dreamt about the idea of Twitter blue and I think even that isn’t bringing in as much funds as advertisers did.
He’s already started doling out payment to content creators on the platform. I think that’s quite innovative as that would make a lot of users to subscribe to Twitter blue as well as bringing in new users to the platform.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on July 29, 2023, 08:44:50 AM
Despite having almost the same number of users, Twitter market cap is only around 1/20th of that of Facebook. The reason is that Twitter can't be monetized in the same way as that of Facebook. However, with Elon taking over Twitter, I am more confident that Twitter will be able to increase it's advertisement revenue by a large part. Elon has suffered a few setbacks ever since he took over Twitter, especially from the far-left. He need to wade through these troubles before Twitter can offer a stiff competition to other social media giants like Facebook.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: irhact on July 29, 2023, 08:53:56 AM
Despite having almost the same number of users, Twitter market cap is only around 1/20th of that of Facebook. The reason is that Twitter can't be monetized in the same way as that of Facebook. However, with Elon taking over Twitter, I am more confident that Twitter will be able to increase it's advertisement revenue by a large part. Elon has suffered a few setbacks ever since he took over Twitter, especially from the far-left. He need to wade through these troubles before Twitter can offer a stiff competition to other social media giants like Facebook.

There are rumors of Elon musk wanting to turn twitter to be profitable for influencers that they can monetize their tweets and videos on the platforms and if this was to happen that means twitter will become profitable for Elon musk as well. He has rebranded the logo, added payment for verification and this is just the beginning of what Elon musk has in plans for twitter. He's also going to make twitter belike WeChat where we can send and receive payments.

When Elon musk is done rebranding twitter, it's going to have similar stock rise as Facebook is experiencing. I think Mark Zuckerberg knows what Elon musk is working on with twitter that's why he launched his recent social media app called Thread to compete with Elon musk.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Synchronice on July 29, 2023, 09:27:38 AM

We already know that there is some bad blood between Meta and Twitter. Or Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk. Given this, I would like for us to discuss this, if Elon Musk decides to launch a clone of Twitter app, do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
Why would he create a clone of Twitter app? I think it's clear what's his intention with twitter and while it looks like he does wrongly manages twitter, long-term, his strategy may succeed because at some point it was true that a lot of twitter employees were probably doing nothing. Also, as he says and as it looks like right now, his intention is the freedom of speech (I hope that doesn't change) and if the price of free speech is what he paid in Twitter, then as he said in one interview, let it be the price for it. I think his financial focus is on Tesla and SpaceX if he achieves his goals. His goal looks like a science fiction but everything is possible if mind can imagine.
But if long-term he manages to keep Twitter like a stable platform with freedom of speech and even boost it's popularity via various crazy methods as he does and improve it's income the way he does via blue badge but in some other crazy form, then I think Twitter Stock can experience pretty good rise.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: iv4n on July 29, 2023, 11:52:25 AM
I'm not defending him nor being a fan of him but we need to look at the fact that he is a genius and I believe he will soon bring Twitter back to its glory days.

After Elon buy Twitter the Financial Statement is not fully declared to the public, I think because if he had revenue loss he had twitter blue revenue that we dont know

I would agree with you he is a genius and now he turned Twitter into X the media have said it going to be multi-app. And recent news he wants to pay the creator from the ad-revenue.

Multi-app, the app for everything... I guess it's similar to what Facebook tried a few years back, but in the end, we didn't see a lot from that. Maybe Elon can do it, since he is into crypto in some way he can come up with something great and unique. But who really knows what's happening in Elons brain, he can change his course at any time, like he did in the past.

I think that "birdy" looked much better than this "X"... but it's just me. It will be interesting to see Elon's next move and where Twitter is heading.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: leonair on July 29, 2023, 06:00:06 PM
do you think it would achieve the same level of success in terms of user base and Stocks considering Elon's controversial history with Twitter?
If he's already lost so much from Twitter, is it possible that anyone would trust him to buy stock in a company that's already practically a failure? of course investors will think again about doing it so Elon Musk will focus more on trying to improve Twitter than following Mark's steps by launching a new application, and it seems that Elon cannot compete with Mark in terms of social media because Mark looks more skilled at developing successful social media applications compared to Elon, who is said to have suffered huge losses since he took over twitter.

I agree with you. Mark is showing that he has nearly perfected the formula for social media platforms development. Soon enough Threads will be the next big thing as it connected to literally one, if not the biggest, platform right now which is Instagram. Once users starts seeing that the changes from X is still not as good as they wanted it to be people will go for Threads.
It makes one wonder why Elon Musk changed the name of Twitter to X.  Is this based on his old company name or a new strategy by Elon Musk to overcome new  social media Threads? And while it is true that Musk is a shrewd businessman, it is highly questionable how effective his tactics will be. People sold their shares in Twitter causing Twitter's value to drop significantly in the stock market.  I think it will take a long time to recover because Threads are now a big obstacle for them


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Sayeds56 on July 30, 2023, 01:51:17 AM
Yes, they are actually in transition period. It is expected to have some issues but I know it will resolve soon, I am just wondering why he made the Twitter logo as "X" is he trying to rebrand Twitter? but all in all what I hate in new feature of Twitter I can't send message if someone doesn't following me, sometimes I am sending messages to our telecommunication company if we don't have internet but because of that I can't do it anymore.

It is challenging to speculate why Elon Musk changed the logo of twitter, but I think he has something bigger in his mind that might entirely reshape the social media landscape. The redesigned logo, featuring X, hints at a new social media platform with potential for extensive communication and integrated financial transactions capabilities. It is exciting to wait and see what developments will unfold in this regard.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: EFS on July 30, 2023, 02:47:07 AM
Didn't anyone notice that the OP wrote backwards? Replace Instagram with Twitter and you'll see what the OP really meant.
Threads was an exact copy of Twitter. Why would people leave the popular app they used for a long time and switch to a new app to do the same thing? Only in the first days, people downloaded the app out of curiosity and logged in with their already existing Instagram account. It's normal for the number of active users to drop now.
It doesn't make much sense for Elon Musk to create an Instagram-like app or integrate it into X. You have to give people a reason to embrace something new. Revenue sharing would certainly be a good incentive.
These companies have too much power in their hands. It wouldn't surprise me if they made such investments though. I would rather increase my Bitcoin amount than buy Twitter stocks.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: fruktik on July 30, 2023, 05:24:21 AM
There are rumors of Elon musk wanting to turn twitter to be profitable for influencers that they can monetize their tweets and videos on the platforms and if this was to happen that means twitter will become profitable for Elon musk as well. He has rebranded the logo, added payment for verification and this is just the beginning of what Elon musk has in plans for twitter. He's also going to make twitter belike WeChat where we can send and receive payments.

When Elon musk is done rebranding twitter, it's going to have similar stock rise as Facebook is experiencing. I think Mark Zuckerberg knows what Elon musk is working on with twitter that's why he launched his recent social media app called Thread to compete with Elon musk.
         And what's wrong with the fact that after the purchase, Musk decided to recapture his money? Is he the only one doing this? This is a rhetorical question. Yes, let him make paid services for influential people and companies. Such is the capitalist world. Nothing should be given for nothing. Everything has to be paid for. At the current time, a person gives away his priceless time or money.
    Twitter shares will show theirs yet. I have no doubt that the growth will be good and the shareholders will receive their profit. Here is my old prediction:
https://i.ibb.co/FwjH7FC/TWTR-2023-07-30-08-23-03.png (https://ibb.co/J7M3k9g)


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: jossiel on July 30, 2023, 08:47:58 AM
It makes one wonder why Elon Musk changed the name of Twitter to X.  Is this based on his old company name or a new strategy by Elon Musk to overcome new  social media Threads? And while it is true that Musk is a shrewd businessman, it is highly questionable how effective his tactics will be. People sold their shares in Twitter causing Twitter's value to drop significantly in the stock market.  I think it will take a long time to recover because Threads are now a big obstacle for them
IMHO, that's part of what he's saying about his vision with Twitter as an all-app that includes everything. This is a rebranding that's happening and it doesn't look good for now.

But who knows if people are going to like it eventually with the additional features that they may add in the future. AFAIK, that's going to include more like integrated exchanges, digital bank, shopping feature, etc.

Just after Elon took over Twitter, it didn't looked good anymore but there's still the usebase that has been using it for years.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dansus021 on July 31, 2023, 01:41:16 AM
But Guys why we still talk about twitter stock when twitter is delisted by the exchange I just quick do google search and the site said

In late October 2022, the company was purchased by Elon Musk for $43billion US dollars, and the company was subsequently removed from public trading on November 8th, 2022. Each individual share was paid out at $53.70 prior to delisting. View historical data and performance charts for twitter share prices. - https://uk.investing.com/equities/twitter-inc#:~:text=In%20late%20October%202022%2C%20the,charts%20for%20twitter%20share%20prices.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on July 31, 2023, 09:27:09 AM
But Guys why we still talk about twitter stock when twitter is delisted by the exchange I just quick do google search and the site said

In late October 2022, the company was purchased by Elon Musk for $43billion US dollars, and the company was subsequently removed from public trading on November 8th, 2022. Each individual share was paid out at $53.70 prior to delisting. View historical data and performance charts for twitter share prices. - https://uk.investing.com/equities/twitter-inc#:~:text=In%20late%20October%202022%2C%20the,charts%20for%20twitter%20share%20prices.

It is currently like that, they have recently closed it for public trading. However, it should be noted that possibility of a rise in twitter or x stock can happen if Elon Musk or the board decides to open it again for public trading. As of now, it is unclear what Elon is planning to do next after the huge rebrand of the platform.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Wend on July 31, 2023, 03:39:49 PM
But Guys why we still talk about twitter stock when twitter is delisted by the exchange I just quick do google search and the site said

In late October 2022, the company was purchased by Elon Musk for $43billion US dollars, and the company was subsequently removed from public trading on November 8th, 2022. Each individual share was paid out at $53.70 prior to delisting. View historical data and performance charts for twitter share prices. - https://uk.investing.com/equities/twitter-inc#:~:text=In%20late%20October%202022%2C%20the,charts%20for%20twitter%20share%20prices.

It is currently like that, they have recently closed it for public trading. However, it should be noted that possibility of a rise in twitter or x stock can happen if Elon Musk or the board decides to open it again for public trading. As of now, it is unclear what Elon is planning to do next after the huge rebrand of the platform.

I saw his tweet recently, and he said something special is coming. Although many people feel disappointed and unhappy when the blue bird symbol is no longer available and replaced by the "X" logo. But I believe the shareholders of this social network will not care about that, what they care about is what Elon will do next to make them profitable and that is also what many people are expecting from Elon.

Many say he killed Twitter, which is true because he rebranded, but what the social network will look like in the future is still an exciting thing to see. I think it's too early to say anything as we all know Elon is a top businessman. Let's see what he will do.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dansus021 on August 01, 2023, 01:32:19 AM
But Guys why we still talk about twitter stock when twitter is delisted by the exchange I just quick do google search and the site said

In late October 2022, the company was purchased by Elon Musk for $43billion US dollars, and the company was subsequently removed from public trading on November 8th, 2022. Each individual share was paid out at $53.70 prior to delisting. View historical data and performance charts for twitter share prices. - https://uk.investing.com/equities/twitter-inc#:~:text=In%20late%20October%202022%2C%20the,charts%20for%20twitter%20share%20prices.

It is currently like that, they have recently closed it for public trading. However, it should be noted that possibility of a rise in twitter or x stock can happen if Elon Musk or the board decides to open it again for public trading. As of now, it is unclear what Elon is planning to do next after the huge rebrand of the platform.

I think it won't happen in the near time because the first time, he bought he decided to go private and buy each individual share and already paid out.

Or maybe Elon still have a bunch of money and not gonna decide to go public again near soon. Because that Only Tesla that Public right?


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on August 01, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
But Guys why we still talk about twitter stock when twitter is delisted by the exchange I just quick do google search and the site said

In late October 2022, the company was purchased by Elon Musk for $43billion US dollars, and the company was subsequently removed from public trading on November 8th, 2022. Each individual share was paid out at $53.70 prior to delisting. View historical data and performance charts for twitter share prices. - https://uk.investing.com/equities/twitter-inc#:~:text=In%20late%20October%202022%2C%20the,charts%20for%20twitter%20share%20prices.

It is currently like that, they have recently closed it for public trading. However, it should be noted that possibility of a rise in twitter or x stock can happen if Elon Musk or the board decides to open it again for public trading. As of now, it is unclear what Elon is planning to do next after the huge rebrand of the platform.

I think it won't happen in the near time because the first time, he bought he decided to go private and buy each individual share and already paid out.

Or maybe Elon still have a bunch of money and not gonna decide to go public again near soon. Because that Only Tesla that Public right?

Most likely, yes. It will take some time for it to happen. It is honestly up to how Twitter or X performs in the next few months given the changes that happened. A lot of investors will even have to ask if it is worth it to invest in that platform or not, again based on the performance the platform will showcase in the next few months.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 01, 2023, 10:55:06 AM
There are rumors of Elon musk wanting to turn twitter to be profitable for influencers that they can monetize their tweets and videos on the platforms and if this was to happen that means twitter will become profitable for Elon musk as well. He has rebranded the logo, added payment for verification and this is just the beginning of what Elon musk has in plans for twitter. He's also going to make twitter belike WeChat where we can send and receive payments.

When Elon musk is done rebranding twitter, it's going to have similar stock rise as Facebook is experiencing. I think Mark Zuckerberg knows what Elon musk is working on with twitter that's why he launched his recent social media app called Thread to compete with Elon musk.

Monetization is similar to what YouTube is doing. But then, how can tweets compete with videos in YouTube? I am still confused regarding how Elon is going to turn Twitter into a profitable venture. Unlike the case with YouTube and Facebook, Twitter is not that suitable for monetization. Most of the users spend only a few seconds to read each tweet, and you can't insert advertisements in between. One option is to do that for the Twitter videos. But Twitter is primarily for micro-blogging and videos are not that popular in that platform.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: marcous on August 01, 2023, 05:06:22 PM
Monetization is similar to what YouTube is doing. But then, how can tweets compete with videos in YouTube? I am still confused regarding how Elon is going to turn Twitter into a profitable venture. Unlike the case with YouTube and Facebook, Twitter is not that suitable for monetization. Most of the users spend only a few seconds to read each tweet, and you can't insert advertisements in between. One option is to do that for the Twitter videos. But Twitter is primarily for micro-blogging and videos are not that popular in that platform.
I thought X Twitter would turn into a platform like Tik Tok or something. Apart from changing the appearance of micro-blogging to a platform that can share videos of long duration and can be monetized, it is possible that in the near future Twitter will be able to do live streaming for users as well.

Next, I think Twitter will completely change its form to become an E-Commers Platform like Tik Tok, and that is very likely to happen because one of the platforms that is very trendy and has a complete feature for its users today is Tik Tok.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Litzki1990 on August 01, 2023, 05:41:35 PM
The app that Mark Zuckerberg brought to the market called Thread became very popular among people.Thread was created by completely copying Twitter. Mark Zuckerberg brought this app to the market at the right time, the exact time when Elon Musk announced that there will be an opportunity to verify the Twitter account for some amount of money Mark Zuckerberg brought this app called Thread to the market. As soon as this app is launched in the market, a huge number of people download and signup for this app. Whereas it took almost three weeks for Instagram to get one million downloads, one million downloads were completed in just one day on Thread app. All things considered, maybe people will use this app along with Twitter.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Wimex on August 01, 2023, 09:44:14 PM
Around these questions, there are only a few almost certain statements and one of them is: Mr. Musk has murdered Twitter, and the mastermind of META is not looking for more than to take advantage of this.. "Trheads" is the best evidence of what was previously mentioned, unfortunately, as mentioned above, it seems more like an instagram clone with another interface than a true alternative to twitter, in my opinion social networks as culturally iconic as these that positioned themselves both at a popularity and billing for their initial concepts are not necessarily tools that need massive updates, however, the owner of TESLA also seems to disagree with this idea and progressively has been taking more and more of its essence from twitter ( now x). I do not hink that there will be alternative tools with similar concepts that really manage to attract the users clinging to these platforms, however, a "fresh" concept may attract new generational masses... The only sure thing here is that the decisions of the main contributor to ideas like Starlink this time were far from being assertive and of course there will be those who want to take advantage of this in one way or another..


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: Pierre 2 on August 01, 2023, 09:49:34 PM
I feel like Threads is like side-app to Instagram so its popularity will go down but it won't completely die because there are many Instagram users out there already. On the other hand, Twitter is basically dead now. We don't have Twitter anymore, its getting something completely different. Its hard to guess what's going to happen with new twitter "X" but I feel like Elon Musk will be successful again and his plan with X is gonna be very popular.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: doomloop on August 02, 2023, 04:45:53 PM
I saw his tweet recently, and he said something special is coming. Although many people feel disappointed and unhappy when the blue bird symbol is no longer available and replaced by the "X" logo. But I believe the shareholders of this social network will not care about that, what they care about is what Elon will do next to make them profitable and that is also what many people are expecting from Elon.

Many say he killed Twitter, which is true because he rebranded, but what the social network will look like in the future is still an exciting thing to see. I think it's too early to say anything as we all know Elon is a top businessman. Let's see what he will do.
Honestly, I was expecting something special to happen when he first took over, but things actually got a negative turn soon after that, the value of the company started going down, and so did the percentage of ad sales revenue, and it looked like the company is going towards a disaster, and now, this rebranding thing, naming the platform X all of a sudden without any prior information or anything, leaving everyone totally surprised and shocked.

A lot of us are really hoping that what he is thinking actually turns out to be good and doesn't make the users that remained with the platform run away and giving Thread by Meta and Mark more success since a lot of people will probably move there or simply start looking for another platform.


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: famososMuertos on August 02, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Monetization is similar to what YouTube is doing. But then, how can tweets compete with videos in YouTube? I am still confused regarding how Elon is going to turn Twitter into a profitable venture. Unlike the case with YouTube and Facebook, Twitter is not that suitable for monetization. Most of the users spend only a few seconds to read each tweet, and you can't insert advertisements in between. One option is to do that for the Twitter videos. But Twitter is primarily for micro-blogging and videos are not that popular in that platform.
I thought X Twitter would turn into a platform like Tik Tok or something. Apart from changing the appearance of micro-blogging to a platform that can share videos of long duration and can be monetized, it is possible that in the near future Twitter will be able to do live streaming for users as well.

Next, I think Twitter will completely change its form to become an E-Commers Platform like Tik Tok, and that is very likely to happen because one of the platforms that is very trendy and has a complete feature for its users today is Tik Tok.

Well... but, "X" has everything you are mentioning, all of that exists on the platform, even pioneers of everything you mention, hence, that Tiktoc , so, they are the ones that  copied them, the only relevant thing in tiktoc was that they brought the videos vertical to dominance over Horizontal videos, everything else already existed on other platforms.

Making a horizontal video is not as easy as the vertical one, at least in its final result and tiktoc offered this, that is the great advantage that it took from its main adversaries, Telegram and YouTube.

On the other hand, what "X" is looking for is "reengineering" and what a brand that wants to get out of the stagnation it has should do, since that social network does not grow but they do maintain a reliable following of around 500 million..."botox".

In other words, Twitter is injecting "botox".  :)


Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: CarnagexD on August 04, 2023, 03:58:16 AM
I feel like Threads is like side-app to Instagram so its popularity will go down but it won't completely die because there are many Instagram users out there already. On the other hand, Twitter is basically dead now. We don't have Twitter anymore, its getting something completely different. Its hard to guess what's going to happen with new twitter "X" but I feel like Elon Musk will be successful again and his plan with X is gonna be very popular.

Fundamentally speaking, it is not about the competition of this company to others. It is all about the usage and its purpose. Especially on the companies online like Twitter, as long as it serves its purpose anything is possible relative to its stock price.



Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: dothebeats on August 04, 2023, 10:02:06 AM
I feel like Threads is like side-app to Instagram so its popularity will go down but it won't completely die because there are many Instagram users out there already. On the other hand, Twitter is basically dead now. We don't have Twitter anymore, its getting something completely different. Its hard to guess what's going to happen with new twitter "X" but I feel like Elon Musk will be successful again and his plan with X is gonna be very popular.

You have a point here. And the two platforms, X formerly known as Twitter and Threads have different elements if you actually go and use both of them. Threads works more like Reddit where people are encouraged to have a discussion hence the name Threads, the only similarity it has with X is the UI. X, on the other hand, is more like Facebook where it can be more personal and doesn't rely much on engagement with others.

Fundamentally speaking, it is not about the competition of this company to others. It is all about the usage and its purpose. Especially on the companies online like Twitter, as long as it serves its purpose anything is possible relative to its stock price.




Title: Re: Can Twitter Stock Experience the same Rise?
Post by: tygeade on August 06, 2023, 07:25:01 PM
There are rumors of Elon musk wanting to turn twitter to be profitable for influencers that they can monetize their tweets and videos on the platforms and if this was to happen that means twitter will become profitable for Elon musk as well. He has rebranded the logo, added payment for verification and this is just the beginning of what Elon musk has in plans for twitter. He's also going to make twitter belike WeChat where we can send and receive payments.

When Elon musk is done rebranding twitter, it's going to have similar stock rise as Facebook is experiencing. I think Mark Zuckerberg knows what Elon musk is working on with twitter that's why he launched his recent social media app called Thread to compete with Elon musk.
Monetization is similar to what YouTube is doing. But then, how can tweets compete with videos in YouTube? I am still confused regarding how Elon is going to turn Twitter into a profitable venture. Unlike the case with YouTube and Facebook, Twitter is not that suitable for monetization. Most of the users spend only a few seconds to read each tweet, and you can't insert advertisements in between. One option is to do that for the Twitter videos. But Twitter is primarily for micro-blogging and videos are not that popular in that platform.
They can compete by being smaller amount. Videos have ads, and usually people use adblockers, and twitter has ads too, but they need to be seen somehow. So if I go to your twitter profile, and see an ad there, you get a cut of it, maybe very small, but if you have tens of thousands of people see it, that becomes something, and if I check a tweet of yours, and look at replies, and see an ad there, that's also profit for you as well.

Maybe the numbers are not similar, but that is how people make money from ads on their profile. Usually you check what the account is about, and then you give ads according to that, which makes it more inclined for people to click on it. I have seen it work, not a big deal yet, but could be in the future.