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Title: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Ayebabara on July 21, 2023, 10:23:56 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Obari on July 21, 2023, 11:33:02 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Nice and kindy advice and that's why the preview button exist. The forum makes it easier for people to preview  their works to have  a view of how the post looks Iike before posting them, so as to avoid some unnecessary  mistakes but I don't have to blame people because some of these users make this unnecessary mistakes by having autocoreect on their phones and most times the errors and mistakes aren't easily spotted.

I personally read post with assumptions of me being the writer and that's why I always do my best to try to read every post I could with less judgemental heart but rather with the consciousness that no one is above mistakes.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Nwada001 on July 21, 2023, 11:50:06 PM
So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction.

This alone can't make a post appear to be a shitpost; punctuation errors and some forms of grammatical errors do not remove the main information that is being passed. There are a lot of posts I come across here where the OP is really not good with English, but when you read through those lines, you will have to understand what the person is saying. A shitpost is when the person doesn't know what they are saying and goes completely off-key or out of line. The post doesn't aim to share any positive contributions to the forum or its members.
 
Reading through posts is nice, and previewing is especially helpful when there is a warning regarding someone who just posted a comment. Especially when you are about to give a recommendation or correction about something, the recent comment might have said a similar thing to what your own comment might appear to look like spam.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Asiska02 on July 21, 2023, 11:53:41 PM
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Nice and kindy advice and that's why the preview button exist. The forum makes it easier for people to preview  their works to have  a view of how the post looks Iike before posting them, so as to avoid some unnecessary  mistakes but I don't have to blame people because some of these users make this unnecessary mistakes by having autocoreect on their phones and most times the errors and mistakes aren't easily spotted.

Getting to preview your post write up before posting it cannot make you dictate your spelling error. I feel the preview button is more important when adding other tags (code, links, image etc) asides from just normal write up in order to get an actual glimpse of how your post will be when published.
The more reason and cause of the spelling errors should be the autocorrect function enabled in phones and also when users are typing too fast than the little the brain can give out at a time can also cause it.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 21, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
I am a non english user. As my first languages are Punjabi, Urdu then English which i learnt in school. And i totally agreed with your point here. At start, and now in current situation too, sometimes i made mistakes. Like i wanted to say something in favor but i end up against it. Last time i mistakenly wrote in a post reply which i was corrected by another member to whom i thanks later.

The point is, we should check our english first and should not rush. I really like this gentle reminder (well it's at least a reminder to me). So, i will try my best. Actually for those who are not english users, should take help to verify your writing from Google translate. (I am not sure if that's also against forum rules). But AFAIK it's not. So we might clarify at least our statements from google translate. Like first write the post in english then translate it into your local language and see does it make sense to you if not the. Correct the grammer mistakes.

And try not to use too many tools because it will make your post looks like BOT written and it might get you tagged as plagiarized. So be careful with tools. Because in some cases they are bad.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Upgrade00 on July 22, 2023, 04:47:19 AM
Getting to preview your post write up before posting it cannot make you dictate your spelling error. I feel the preview button is more important when adding other tags (code, links, image etc) asides from just normal write up in order to get an actual glimpse of how your post will be when published.
Previewing your post before posting can allow you detect errors that you may have made while writing it. I usually will more easily see any typos when reading the preview of the post that when reading directly while posting.
It is also useful in double checking how forun tags will look before publishing the post.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Solosanz on July 22, 2023, 06:20:40 AM
You're a naive person, do you think all of native English never make any mistake in their post?

Grammatical errors are common occur, but as long as we as a reader can understand with the point they're trying to say, I don't think it's really a matter. A post with good point and no grammatical error is impressive, but what if the post don't have anything to say, only repeat a general information that everyone already know and no grammatical error? do you think it's a high quality post?

Introduction:
Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be used in different ways, both in buying and selling of goods through per-to-per transfer and also in investment which many users of bitcoin are interested. People invest in bitcoin because it flustrates in price either the bearish that people buy and in the bull that they sell. Bitcoin also trend in the eco-space that everyone who is good in the latest technological ideas in the world key into it. Therefore, I should not be exempted for joining the trend and start my journey. I am also aware of the risk that is involved but that will not be an excused to the journey. What's matter is the determination. The price of bitcoin is unpredictable but yet people guest it correctly. Bravo for those guys.
For the crypto space, some people prefer trading to investment while some prefer investment to trading which I might also fall unto and some are for mining.

I wanted to start my bitcoin investment journey but I look at it that the price is still high to start the investment and I am waiting for the price to go down to $20k to $25k or below. Is that a procrastination? If yes, when is the best time to start the journey? Now that the price is still high? Will bitcoin go down again? The way it stand, it looks like it would not go down again until the next halvining and the bull to come. Bitcoin price was good to invest last year which was $16k to $19k but I was not having cash to start the journey but now that I have small cash let me start the investment.
To What Extent Bitcoin Price Will go for the Bear Market
Bitcoin start the year 2023 with a good price and the price in in this year is much more better than last year 2022 and those who invested last year 2023 would not say that this year do does not favour them. And we have spent 7 month in this year and the price of bitcoin right now is $30,277 that is, the price is sliding down compare to last week. So where do you think the price of bitcoin will end for the bear market before this year will end?

To What Extent Bitcoin Price Will go for the Bull Market
As it is said, bitcoin price rised to $20+k from late last year after the bear market and in  this year the price rises to $31k, so what is your speculation on the price before the end of the year?


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: knowngunman on July 22, 2023, 06:35:28 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

It's actually good to review and reread your post before posting knowing that it's going public. You already know that mistake is inevitable and that's why sometimes despite reviewing your post numerous times, you'll discover some error (s) after posting. You can see the area I outlined in your post with red color, it's a prove that reviewing your post will not make it entirely error free. I initially thought you did it deliberately and later realized that your post is about making a perfect post devoid of error and I don't think you'll do that deliberately. Is this a prove that you didn't reread your post before posting or a justification that mistake is inevitable? Lol ;D

It's normal to check your posts after typing and still discover mistakes either in spelling, repetition of word, punctuation usage or even the whole collocation as the case maybe. It is understandable sometime to the readers as long as it's minor. However, making it a habit is actually bad. An error might be discovered in my post too.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Fiatless on July 22, 2023, 06:46:27 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Good advice OP. One might not be good at English grammar but we are expected to put effort and improve our writings. Using English grammar software like Grammarly and Whitesmoke online checkers might help correct some errors and some of these software are free online. We should also review our posts to make corrections. Natural English speakers should also be patient with us who are learning how to speak the language. It has not really been easy to become proficient.

This alone can't make a post appear to be a shitpost; punctuation errors and some forms of grammatical errors do not remove the main information that is being passed. There are a lot of posts I come across here where the OP is really not good with English, but when you read through those lines, you will have to understand what the person is saying. A shitpost is when the person doesn't know what they are saying and goes completely off-key or out of line. The post doesn't aim to share any positive contributions to the forum or its members.
A simple grammatical error can change the entire meaning of a sentence. And when readers don't understand some sentences, will be incoherence which will lead to misinformation and most people are not patient enough to read through the lines of some posts. Mistakes happen but we should try to limit it by putting more effort into our posts. But it because a problem when it becomes a common occurrence in our works.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: mk4 on July 22, 2023, 07:13:25 AM
Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Stepstowealth on July 22, 2023, 07:30:32 AM
Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough.
Not all forum members have their native language as English, so it is not possible that these people in trying to express themselves will not make some grammatical error. Even people who have it as their Language still make errors sometimes in writing and speaking. I agree with the focus being to make your post understandable not 100% grammatically correct. Try to communicate and express yourself so people understand you and the point you need to make, do not try to impress people only with your writing skills.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: mamesso on July 22, 2023, 08:14:44 AM
Usually Mistakes arise from someone's ignorance or have never had experience about doing certain things even though they are equipped with complete features, users who want to develop in forums will try to make Mistakes as learning and experience. The preview feature serves to prevent minor mistakes when posting, some people consider this feature to be trivial and often ignore it. Of course Mistakes cannot be avoided due to the forgetful nature of humans, corrections from other users can be a motivation to prevent the same mistakes in the future.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Findingnemo on July 22, 2023, 08:18:43 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

You don't have to make posts that are grammatically correct, its enough to make posts that make some sense, especially in the public forums. But looking for any errors by reading again won't do any harm and it will be effective to identify the sentences that are not properly constructed.

Anyway, when someone suggests you post quality over quantity it never meant long text, it just means post something knowledgeable.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: BD Crypto on July 22, 2023, 08:39:41 AM
Most of the non English users do mistakes but some are nigotiable and some are just trash as they don't contain any meaning.
As here many of us are Non English users (including me) we should learn about some basic ways to minimize grammatical problems or to make quality posts:

1. Use Grammarly or Grammar Checker App: Ehen you have problems with English language like grammatical problems then you can easily know about the errors of your sentences. Just use Gramarly or any other popular checker websites.

2. Use Google translator to find out meaning or spelling: Sometimes we face hard words that we don't know the meaning or we want to post in English but can't translate a word in English then just use Google translator to find out it. But never translate whole sentence and just copy-paste it because it's prohibited.

3. Learn about the topic before posting: To avoid making shit posts you must have proper realization about the topic which you want to create or make a discussion. When you have a little knowledge about the topic kindly avoid or try to gather some knowledge and then try to contribute but never make shitposts.

4. Receck your posts and use Preview Option: Anyone can have grammatical or spelling mistakes and it's normal so when we revise we may find out easily. Also we may see if images, links, quotes or any features working properly or not by this way.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 22, 2023, 08:40:50 AM

Not all forum members have their native language as English, so it is not possible that these people in trying to express themselves will not make some grammatical error. Even people who have it as their Language still make errors sometimes in writing and speaking. I agree with the focus being to make your post understandable not 100% grammatically correct. Try to communicate and express yourself so people understand you and the point you need to make, do not try to impress people only with your writing skills.

In addition, sometimes when checking for the use of an AI tool, grammatically correct text without a single mistake will look very suspicious. And the user can be accused of using a robot instead.
But, OP, I always thought that a person who is ready to be an example for users can teach something here on the forum. I would appreciate your advice on writing good posts and seeing some of your interesting and competent posts. Do not take it as criticism; you contradict yourself. I saw your other post written a little earlier.

I agreed with the op, a newbie is always a newbie, even he or she is experts in bitcoin, as they are joining the forum for the very first time they are newbies in the forum so they have to lie low to observe things to learn about the forum and contribute meaningful contributions from the knowledge they have from outside and not to render services to people to follow. Bitcoin is very deep that nobody knows all, everyone knows there areas of expert and not all areas.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: BlackBoss_ on July 22, 2023, 10:00:19 AM
1. Use Grammarly or Grammar Checker App: Ehen you have problems with English language like grammatical problems then you can easily know about the errors of your sentences. Just use Gramarly or any other popular checker websites.
Like this one Grammarly.com (https://www.grammarly.com/) which can be useful even with a free account. You will have more advanced features if you buy Premium or Business Grammarly accounts.

If you are learning, using a free account is good enough for basic grammar checking.

This Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0) and Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) tell all, reading and learning before posting.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 22, 2023, 11:56:28 AM
In my opinion, I think it's normal to make mistakes. The reason is that human beings don't operate like robots. As long as what the person has written can be easily understood and if they are making good points, then it will be found, although most of those mistakes are not always repeated in every user's post. Those kinds of common mistakes are not a reason to dismiss someone as a hitposter. Shit posting is when one is talking off-topic or off-point repeatedly without taking correction.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: icalical on July 22, 2023, 12:12:19 PM
As a non native english speaker, this happened to me a lot, fortunately bitcointalk has the feature to edit the post even after it is posted. Most of the time, I edit my post more than once. That being said, I think it's understandable if a non native english speaker make small mistake like grammatical error or choosing the wrong prefix, as long as people still understand the point I don't think its a big problem.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: aysg76 on July 22, 2023, 12:51:32 PM
Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.
Right the thread should make some sense and share something useful then grammatical errors can be ignored to some extent.I have seen some non native English speaker making threads in general board saying to ignore some mistakes and they should be motivated so they learn more in English also.For local boards they are taking active part in them but on bigger levels small mistakes don't matter a lot but they should not just spam post anything that doesn't make any sense at all.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on July 22, 2023, 01:33:55 PM
I think mostly using that and clicking the preview mode before clicking send. This is a good feature on forum and every users must read their response to any post since its better to find some grammar or wrong spelling on the paragraphs. Im not sure if someone just rushing their post right away cause thats a bad practice at all if ever they arent using the review mode.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on July 22, 2023, 02:51:15 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
That's what Edit post and Preview button is here for anyway. Unless you're writing a blog post, then not all might care how you write as long as you can get your points across. There are some couple of extensions or apps that people could use to correct their grammar, but I do suggest that they just learn by their own in creating a perfect grammar.

Also people could still post to their local boards first if they're struggling writing a perfect grammar and nobody has an issue for that. It's a good starting point.

I think mostly using that and clicking the preview mode before clicking send. This is a good feature on forum and every users must read their response to any post since its better to find some grammar or wrong spelling on the paragraphs. Im not sure if someone just rushing their post right away cause thats a bad practice at all if ever they arent using the review mode.
It's what I use as well whenever I do Quick Replies in here. Rushing posts is indeed a not a really great way to learn.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 22, 2023, 03:01:34 PM
TBH, I don't know why users are here are thinking like posting is a race where we need to rush? I mean why? Why are they doing this? Because they're excited to share what they know?

Anyway, that's why we have the "Preview" Button, and the "Edit" Button to change something that we need to change. Cross checking? I'm already doing that while I'm typing though there are some times where I edit my post, I only edit them because I forgot to add something to my post. Like what others said here, Grammarly is also useful as well, but I never used it in any of my posts here. Not a native language speaker here, but I did watched some Youtube videos in the past regarding grammar though I believe that I still make mistakes especially with the punctuations.

Overall, just forget the mindset where "Posting is being rushed" because this isn't a race, but it's just a forum where we are sharing information. There's no reward in being first to post in a particular thread.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Agbe on July 22, 2023, 04:11:43 PM
In my opinion, I think it's normal to make mistakes. The reason is that human beings don't operate like robots. As long as what the person has written can be easily understood and if they are making good points, then it will be found, although most of those mistakes are not always repeated in every user's post. Those kinds of common mistakes are not a reason to dismiss someone as a hitposter. Shit posting is when one is talking off-topic or off-point repeatedly without taking correction.
Even Robot makes mistakes when it is not well programmed. Native speakers of English also make mistakes so we should not blame one another for grammatical errors. For the forum the preview button is there to help your blunders. Op you need to have a thick skin for now until you have mastered the forum and also improve on yourself. There are lot of works to do at the beginning of the forum. Read more and learn more. Make comments more than posting and things will gradually be okay for you.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: lionheart78 on July 22, 2023, 04:27:40 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

A reply can be labeled as trash or shit post when the content of it is not related to the topic discussed on the thread or the statement is hard to be understood.  I believe most members here do not care whether the sentence is perfectly done or has some grammatical and spelling errors as long as they are on topic and contribute to the thread discussion. 

And I agree that we should make a habit of previewing our replies before hitting the post to check and correct the possible mistakes on the post.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Ever-young on July 22, 2023, 06:16:29 PM
Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up.

I believe this is where I have been making mistake for the past few years that I have been in this forum. Most times I drop my comment on some post without reading through the lines over and over again to check if their were some errors or not. Some times it takes weeks or months before I do revisit those threads and notice the error which sometimes I try to correct most times I just let it go as the comment has already serve it's purpose. Few errors don't stop comment from fulfilling aim and passing the right message. but it's just good for us to try our best and avoid some noticable errors in every means possible, to make it easier for people who are reading our post's.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Merit.s on July 22, 2023, 06:50:04 PM
Nobody is perfect in whatever he or she is doing,writing is something that you do by expressing yourself on a particular discussion. Sometimes, while you are  writing,there can be a distraction from somewhere that will lead a mistake in your English grammar, but this doesn't mean that the information that you are passing is missing. As long as one can express himself to peoples understanding,it doesn't mean anything. Majority us forum users are not from English speaking country, so it is possible that little errors would be made. This is why it is good to preview your write up before posting it for editing.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 22, 2023, 07:35:00 PM
Indeed, errors in grammar and spelling can alter the intended meaning of a sentence. Therefore, non-English speakers may find it beneficial to utilize tools such as Grammarly or similar applications to craft flawless posts. As a non-English speaker myself, I have primarily relied on Grammarly and ChatGPT to enhance my English proficiency. There is no shame in employing such tools to refine one's English skills.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: SatoPrincess on July 22, 2023, 07:43:23 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Anyone who makes use of the preview button should be able to avoid such mistakes and typos in their write up. I usually preview my posts just to see how it looks before posting, this is especially useful when you made a post with tables or images, this additions can easily mess up a post if not done properly but with the preview option, you can easily notice them and make the corrections before posting.

 


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Renampun on July 22, 2023, 09:21:10 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

to make posts on boards and sections in English, I always use google translate, It cannot be denied that Google Translate often gives wrong sentences, I saw several times that non-English users made very messy English posts, I didn't like that either and reported it to the moderator.

I continue to recommend that all non-English users use Grammerly on their Google Translate, Grammerly is very useful for those from other countries who cannot speak English, wrong sentences will be corrected and repaired automatically so that no spell errors are created.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on July 22, 2023, 11:21:23 PM
Even Robot makes mistakes when it is not well programmed. Native speakers of English also make mistakes so we should not blame one another for grammatical errors

exactly, in this life, mistakes are likely to occur at any moment.

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Read more and learn more. Make comments more than posting and things will gradually be okay for you.

LoL 😂, do you think newbies really pay attention to this kind of advice again? Although it's vital and I have seen same advice from other high experienced members here, but the problem with newbies is that they believe that it's only when they creat their own topic that they would have more exposure to earn merit. If newbies take those repeated advice, then it will help them to learn very fast, because they definitely will come across good informative and educational thread and they can even ask their questions there to gain reply.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Ayebabara on July 22, 2023, 11:48:38 PM
I continue to recommend that all non-English users use Grammerly on their Google Translate, Grammerly is very useful for those from other countries who cannot speak English, wrong sentences will be corrected and repaired automatically so that no spell errors are created.
That is a good recommendation but do you think that can work out effectively? Because in my thought, that can delay writing. Using Google Transactor for writing will not make the writer to write fast, therefore instead it is better the person learn English in lesson or the person should study how people write things here then he should follow up gradually to learn things by himself than using Google Transactor. Using grammarly from the keyboard or keypad is also nice but that can also change your thoughts of writing. Because when are writing a particular point and grammarly will change the sentence to the way it wants and your  thoughts, that is the way you wanted to write your story or reply would just changed. So there are sometimes, I used to delete everything and write it from my own way.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: palle11 on July 23, 2023, 06:47:56 AM
Even Robot makes mistakes when it is not well programmed. Native speakers of English also make mistakes so we should not blame one another for grammatical errors

exactly, in this life, mistakes are likely to occur at any moment.

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Read more and learn more. Make comments more than posting and things will gradually be okay for you.

LoL 😂, do you think newbies really pay attention to this kind of advice again? Although it's vital and I have seen same advice from other high experienced members here, but the problem with newbies is that they believe that it's only when they creat their own topic that they would have more exposure to earn merit. If newbies take those repeated advice, then it will help them to learn very fast, because they definitely will come across good informative and educational thread and they can even ask their questions there to gain reply.

Creating thread is not the problem of newbie even though they still feel that can help them to get merit . You can create a thread and still go on making the mistake especially if you are not an English speaking person. There are mistakes that are pardonable and there are errors, these two are not the same. An English speaker can make mistakes of spelling likewise non English speaker so I don't think that is too heavy but what is important is for newbies to understand the rules and ways to make their post attractive. Don't quote wrongly and don't make your post too big and clustered because it discourages contribution on it. You can write simple English and it is fine to read through it.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: blckhawk on July 23, 2023, 08:24:42 AM
Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.
This.

Also, if you're that concerned with your post, maybe try tools like Grammarly or other grammar checking tools most of them already have a spelling checker so you no need to worry. And if that's not enough, you can write/type your thoughts in your native tongue and then paste it to a translator and if you are confident enough about the translation, post it.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: avp2306 on July 23, 2023, 08:34:38 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

Posting is not everything you can learn a lot even if you didn't dedicate all your time here. Just focus on what can interest you since wasting your time on focusing on your post can make you missed your opportunity on other things.

If you are aiming to join on signature campaign maybe there's something contribute with good post but remember that you can only earn a few bucks so better focus on informations you gather rather than draining your energy on one place.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Dunamisx on July 24, 2023, 01:29:30 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made.

But information is the key to avoid mistakes, what we don't know we are prone to fall into mistakes concerning such, we could actually avoid these mistakes when we follow the due procedures to learning, where there's law and regulations guiding the community, anyone not familiar or being conscious of them will definitely fall a victim, if we are knowledgeable about the forum and bitcoin, we won't make much mistakes.

Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up.

It's very important that we check and recheck out posts for proper corrections before posting them, i also understand the needs that some mistakes are inevitable because we might not be aware of them before happening, editing is very necessary especially when post is made and mistakes are spotted, quickly make an edit of the mistake and also follow the possible suggestions that comes after the post for corrections as suggested by other members.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: YUriy1991 on July 24, 2023, 01:43:29 PM
Yes, the title of your post appealed to me. That's the right OP, it must be used to post especially for beginners. Check and re-read whether it is appropriate for us to provide answers or responses and be constructive so as to avoid mistakes and be deleted by the moderator. and don't forget to prepare a follow-up answer if there are friends here who quote back the answers or responses that we have conveyed.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Z390 on July 24, 2023, 02:13:37 PM
This type of mistakes does not make anyone a shitposter, there is a difference between the two, and it's true that anyone can make mistakes when trying to reply to topics or creating their topics on the forum, there are few spell checker software for PC and android, you can download and start using to make things more faster for you.

On this forum it's always about what you are sharing, even if there are some mistake people will understand what you are trying to make, a shitposter is someone who just create posts or comments that have no meaning.

This mistake can be avoided if you always cross-check after creating your comments before posting them on the forum.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Darker45 on July 24, 2023, 02:21:04 PM
Ideally, of course, it's best if your post is perfect in both form and substance. But if you can't have the two, then I guess the latter is much more important than the former. It's probably enough that the point is made and understood. Certain aspects like grammar are secondary. As a non-native speaker of the English language myself, I can't help but commit grammatical, punctuation, and other errors every now and then.

But we should all be striving to be better posters nonetheless, both in form and in substance.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: goldkingcoiner on July 24, 2023, 03:01:08 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

I have to make edits all the time because I am not a very careful poster. Sometimes I forget to add something or I notice a grammatical mistake an hour or two after posting. But that is completely fine. There is no harm in editing your post nor is there any harm in making mistakes.

All posts are being archived anyway. So you cannot hide previous edits.

Although if people were to follow OPs advice of making clean and neat posts, then reading through text on Bitcointalk would be so much easier and more fun. But that's hard to achieve as some people on this thread already mentioned; that not everyone is an native english writer and cannot be expected never to make a mistake. ;D

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I had to edit my post. Thats why above, it says today last edit at ZZ:YY:XX AM/PM ::)


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Salahmu on July 24, 2023, 03:41:00 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.


OP your point is well understandable, because most people always rushed to make a post without editing or preview which is very wrong, making a post that conveys no message or information is a total waste, I know that mistakes are inevitable but editing a message before posting allows you to eradicate all mistakes as such making you to have a very well written and understandable content.

Just like a post I read, I almost had a headache reading it because there was so many errors and mistakes on that post, not that the person was not good in writing but all his interest was just to post the message and forgot to edit or crosscheck.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: m2017 on July 24, 2023, 04:06:10 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
It's immediately obvious that you've done a good job of making your post presentable, and that's great.

You are right and sometimes we can see posts that are some kind of strange hodgepodge of letters (lack of banal punctuation marks and inappropriate spaces because of which the text merges into a continuous mess), which is not only impossible to read, but also almost impossible to understand. Of course, personally, I immediately skip this and switch to other topics.

You can add one more item:
- If even after the publication you saw some kind of mistake, then this is easily corrected by pressing the "edit" button (on the right, in the top corner of your post between "quote" and "delete") and adjusting the text.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: coupable on August 02, 2023, 11:52:21 PM
This type of mistakes does not make anyone a shitposter, there is a difference between the two, and it's true that anyone can make mistakes when trying to reply to topics or creating their topics on the forum, there are few spell checker software for PC and android, you can download and start using to make things more faster for you.

I don't think anyone thinks someone can be considered a spammer just because they make grammatical mistakes or don't review before posting. Especially since the forum enables review and correction even after publication.
There is nothing I can recommend to any user here if the content of his publications is useful because it is not possible to anticipate the reasons that make him make mistakes while writing or prevent him from review and correct all potential mistakes.
As you know, your actions on the forum cannot be escaped because someone has developed algorithms that record all posts before they are modified, and the forum system always records the date of the last update on any post.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: dzungmobile on August 03, 2023, 11:57:05 AM
I don't think anyone thinks someone can be considered a spammer just because they make grammatical mistakes or don't review before posting.
Spammers don't care what discussions they are joining and what ideas they put into their posts as well as whether the questions already answered by other posters. So most important reason why their posts are shitposts and have no quality is they have no idea for issue is in discussion. Second, they don't have to to read, search and write an informative and helpful post. Grammar is not biggest problem.

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Especially since the forum enables review and correction even after publication.
If you are non native English writer and are not too good in English from grammar to vocabularies, you need more than Preview and Edit buttons in Bitcointalk.

Something more helpful like https://www.grammarly.com/ (https://www.grammarly.com/).


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Awaklara on August 03, 2023, 12:51:13 PM
So most important reason why their posts are shitposts and have no quality is they have no idea for issue is in discussion.
it's not that they don't have ideas, but rather they don't know the topic. As a result, they just create a post by following the previous post. what is clear is that they lack interest in reading, that's what makes their knowledge very minimal to discuss.
shitpost problem, we just need to report a moderator if we see it in any thread. the more their posts get deleted, the more likely they will be conscious to improve the quality of their posts.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Yaunfitda on August 03, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

I think there is also an app that will check for the spelling and grammar. However, the thoughts itself can't be check so it's very important if you are a non-English speaker to really check everything first.

And even if you have push the Post button, and then you find something wrong, you can easily edit it again, just saying.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on August 03, 2023, 01:58:46 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Before you make any post
1) Think about it
2) Write it down in a notepad
3) Read it slowly while looking out for grammatical errors and incorrect sentences.
4) If you think it's okay, then post it.
Non English speakers are not shit posters , they just have a hard time writing in English language. And some even use a translation software that makes matter worse.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Sim_card on August 03, 2023, 05:37:31 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
OP, you are very correct on this topic of yours. As one needs to be careful and not rush into posting because sometimes,you might think that you post is quality enough but full of mistakes. When you use the preview method to go through it again,then you will see the errors and correct them. However if the information that you are passing can be understood by readers then it wouldn't be a problem to the forum.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Forever101 on August 04, 2023, 10:08:47 PM
I think the English speaking members should take caution before judging others base on their mistake. 

As you have said, your suggestions are superb , this will help prevent  post that have contradicting statement , confusing and misleading.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: ultrloa on August 04, 2023, 11:38:36 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
OP, you are very correct on this topic of yours. As one needs to be careful and not rush into posting because sometimes,you might think that you post is quality enough but full of mistakes. When you use the preview method to go through it again,then you will see the errors and correct them. However if the information that you are passing can be understood by readers then it wouldn't be a problem to the forum.

Better always to proof read your sentences before you try to post something so that you will know that there's something wrong with our post and to make sure that there's no misspelled words so that it will be easy understand by other people who read it. Also we better accept peoples opinion if there's someone pointing out about posting mistakes that need to correct since by this we can improve our posting and the way we communicate with other people.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Myleschetty on August 04, 2023, 11:39:51 PM
I think the English speaking members should take caution before judging others base on their mistake. 

As you have said, your suggestions are superb , this will help prevent  post that have contradicting statement , confusing and misleading.
In a public forum like this, there will always be a misunderstanding among people and I believe this is because we're from different backgrounds, and have more hearing and understanding than each other and also put ourselves in other people's shoes before judging. In other to avoid any negative things it's better to follow the advice provided by the OP. 


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: ImThour on August 05, 2023, 12:08:07 AM
Why just "To Non English" users? This should be for everyone isn't it? You are saying that English speakers don't make a these mistakes when typing on a computer?
Also, don't have to be pixel perfect or word perfect. Typos are very normal and you have the option to edit whenever you want to but I understand what you were trying to point out.

One should just be able to share their emotions and that will be more than enough for other person to understand, don't have to be a grammar guru. :D


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: KingsDen on August 05, 2023, 11:52:01 AM
Why just "To Non English" users? This should be for everyone isn't it? You are saying that English speakers don't make a these mistakes when typing on a computer?

You are correct that this advice is not applicable to only non English users. A native English speaker can also make mistakes, but then the percentage of errors a non English speaker makes a mistake is a way higher than the percentage of error that an English speaker will make.

Also, don't have to be pixel perfect or word perfect. Typos are very normal and you have the option to edit whenever you want to but I understand what you were trying to point out.

There is a big difference between typographical errors and grammatically wrong sentences. The former can be done by anyone while the later is done by majority of non English users.

One should just be able to share their emotions and that will be more than enough for other person to understand, don't have to be a grammar guru. :D

I agree with you. I haven't seen any crucified user because of English. People always encourage poor English users to develop and use apps like grammarly. But if a user's English is so bad that people will not understand, they should better be in the local boards.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Sanitough on August 05, 2023, 02:36:57 PM
So most important reason why their posts are shitposts and have no quality is they have no idea for issue is in discussion.
it's not that they don't have ideas, but rather they don't know the topic. As a result, they just create a post by following the previous post. what is clear is that they lack interest in reading, that's what makes their knowledge very minimal to discuss.
shitpost problem, we just need to report a moderator if we see it in any thread. the more their posts get deleted, the more likely they will be conscious to improve the quality of their posts.
Having less understanding on the topic or the discussion itself might be an outcome of being a non-reader or being inactive in the forum. Because even if you don’t read articles online/offline, but as long as you keep exploring the forum, you will have something to learn and something to say. But still, we are not excuse from committing mistakes like grammatical errors, especially that some are obviously have poor vocabulary power. That’s why it’s always better to check your post before pressing the post button, otherwise you will be noticed by the admin by creating redundant errors.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Woodie on August 05, 2023, 02:58:27 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made.
With the coming of AI and the alike, I want to believe we need to see more mistakes once in a while just to prove people are human! Without mistakes then this should give a hint of a bot or AI helping in the writing ✍️ which could be a red flag ::)

Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction.
Mistakes are very much normal, but what turns a great idea into a shit post 90% of the times is the use of translators,  someone will write something in their language  and use tools such as Google translate just to get it into English and the message gets distorted and everything is mumble jumbled and everything gets lost in the translation, and the post will easily be tagged as trash!!!
Btw, being part of the forum isn't exclusive  to native English speakers and this has gone on for years and nobody has been penalized for it,  so lets no make this about being a native or not!


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: DYING_S0UL on August 05, 2023, 03:08:57 PM
Post don't necessarily need to be 100% grammatically correct — as long as the thread is understandable, it's good enough. But if a certain user can't really make a thread that's at least mildly comprehensible, then there's a reason why we have Local sections.

So we don't have to be 100% accurate in grammar right? English is not my native language. So I always make some mistake but my English is enough for the other person to understand what I am trying to say. Still sometimes I have to check google for spelling. (I know the word and meaning but not spelling)

I know Ai generated posts are not allowed. So can we use tools like Grammerly or Quilbot to clear out doubt about our sentences. Sometimes these tools would suggest us to use others words rather then our chosen words (better words).


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Asuspawer09 on August 05, 2023, 11:59:27 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

I mean if your post really has the thought on it I dont think it is going to be marked as a shit post or something like a spam post the quality of the post depends on the thought and the information it has is it helpful something like that, In my years of posting I dont see the grammar become a big problem because usually as long as it has the thought and its understandable members are considering it unless your post is difficult to understand because of your grammar. For sure it is better to double-check your post before posting I mean I do that as well. There are a lot of members here in the forum where English is not their language so it's understandable why a lot of people here doesnt have great English or grammar.

You can just use Grammarly to help you with your grammar, it was a great tool in my opinion it changes some errors like, and in my experience it change changes some small words like it, are, to understand the thought or add and s if you forgot about something like that. So you're not going to be made as an AI, but maybe it would make the chances higher but as long as you think of the though of it it's going to be fine because AI sentences are just way too complex and perfect.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Russlenat on August 06, 2023, 06:58:08 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

I think there is also an app that will check for the spelling and grammar. However, the thoughts itself can't be check so it's very important if you are a non-English speaker to really check everything first.

And even if you have push the Post button, and then you find something wrong, you can easily edit it again, just saying.
Yes. Install Grammarly Keyboard and it will be a great help in checking your spelling and grammar when posting in the forum. But I also believe that you should study and improve your vocabulary too because once you’re good at it, it’s seldom to see spelling and grammar errors when you’re posting.

Nevertheless, we can always edit our first post if we see some errors on it. No one’s perfect, but at least we also try our best not to come out imperfect.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Ayebabara on August 07, 2023, 12:40:35 AM
If you are non native English writer and are not too good in English from grammar to vocabularies, you need more than Preview and Edit buttons in Bitcointalk.
Exactly, you have said what was in my mind. Many comments were saying if they are to edit their post before posting they should check their threads on preview before psot. Lolz, non English speakers, for the ones that the English are very bad need extra help or tools in their writings. Preview button can't be a help to them in fact they don't have anything to do with the preview button.

All what they need is to calm down and re-read what they have written to see if there is any mistake, omissions, and there should be addition. Grammarly tool can also help them, but personal studies with good dictionary is also good for them to increase in vocabulary.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: dzungmobile on August 07, 2023, 01:05:28 AM
Exactly, you have said what was in my mind. Many comments were saying if they are to edit their post before posting they should check their threads on preview before psot. Lolz, non English speakers, for the ones that the English are very bad need extra help or tools in their writings. Preview button can't be a help to them in fact they don't have anything to do with the preview button.
Don't have anything to do with Preview button, really?

Each button, each feature, each tool or software has its own functions, features and usefulness for each person and in specific situation. You always need to use Preview button and sometimes Edit button. Preview button is helpful to show your composing content and you can view it to see whether there are typos, broken table, lists etc. before posting.

Third party tools can help you to proofread your post, correct inaccuracy in vocabularies and grammar but I barely use them. A poster will come to a time with which he will mainly use the preview button.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Distinctin on August 07, 2023, 03:06:09 PM
How would you know that he is not cross checking every time he post? Because of wrong grammar and spelling used? FYI, if the poster is actually non-English speaker and knows nothing about grammatization and spelling, no matter how often he’ll review his post, he will still make the same errors even after posting. That is the reason why we should never start posting unless if you’ve gained sufficient knowledge on the topic or thread, and if you’re aware enough on its correct term or words that you are going to use in your discussion. Otherwise, your performance will create negative impact on you as a forum member or poster.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: uchegod-21 on August 07, 2023, 03:31:59 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
In every writing that is meant for publication, the writer ought to really examine what they have written before they have to publish. But in this very forum, I have witnessed some serial spammers who do not write as if they are writing for public consumption. Some of them do not make sense at all. They do not also use punctuations, making it absolutely difficult for anyone to read.
Those kind of posters have reduced since the exit of 1xbet.com gambling company and I believe they will not resurface.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Jatiluhung on August 08, 2023, 03:22:02 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
Well I agree with what you say. I personally have bad english. So often I experience errors in wording. Or sometimes I have vocabulary that I usually use in my language but I can't find it in English. This made me have to think hard and start composing words that are closer to their true meaning.

And regarding reviewing the posts that have been made before being posted is indeed a step that must be taken. Especially to avoid fatal mistakes in delivery. Because missing one vocabulary word can make a different meaning than what we actually want to convey.
But there is indeed a vocabulary that is sometimes difficult to apply to English which comes from my local language. So it is difficult to fix. But we have to keep improving it so that the discussion can continue well. Because a discussion will not go well if there is an erroneous writing and makes people who read it misunderstand. This is the function of the Review button. The forum provides it for use. Because in this forum people come from different countries and languages. So sometimes there will be some things that we have to understand as long as they are within acceptable limits.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on August 10, 2023, 08:05:53 AM
To a large extent, I agree with you but there are few things you should take note. There is are many forum members who are not from England speaking countries, so their use of England language can only be limited to what they can write, hence the message is passed successfully, we shouldn't crucify the messenger but take the message.
We are all humans, we are bound to make mistakes.
I've seen a lot of post from some forum members that are not from England speaking countries or are still learning how to write in English, once I see them, I noticed one or two grammatical errors but I still understood the message passed and I make my contribution.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: CryptSafe on August 10, 2023, 08:30:50 AM
It is good one take a little time to read their works before posting it in other to avoid mistakes. Rereading your write up sometimes gives you more ideas and a clear view of what you are really talking about when it comes to matters of discussion on this platform and other engagements as well. I have had to this experience where I read my post before posting it and in the course of reading it, more ideas come in and I continue writing to add more views about the subject matter.

In as much as this is a global platform, there are lots of non English speaking nationals here which I believe are trying their best to flow with the activities making contributions and engaging in other activities here to be relevant on this platform so I expect not everyone would definitely write or speak good English. Most of them are trying and are also improving in their grammatical expression and engagements. So OP no one is above mistakes but I still understand your point and the need for one to cross check their write up before posting and as time goes by the non English speaking nationals would adapt and learn together with those new to the platform.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Victorik on August 10, 2023, 08:33:45 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

Yeah. It is unprofessional to write and post without proofreading your write-up. Just as you have said, sometimes it might be a typo error, and going back to read, will save you a lot of embarrassment.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Gallar on August 11, 2023, 01:25:59 PM
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I completely agree with your opinion OP. Looking back and re-reading the writing that will be posted is indeed something that is very important and must be done. Because often in the middle of writing, sometimes there are inappropriate words or wrong words, which will change the contents of the meaning of the writing. So therefore, it is very important to press the preview button first before pressing the post button. Because if you are not careful and thorough, you are afraid that there will be wrong words, then the meaning of the writing will be different/wrong and it could be a misunderstanding for other members who read the post.
Because in this btt forum, as much as possible the quality of the language and the method of delivery must be neatly arranged. I have also been in this forum for quite a while, still learning to be able to organize the language in my posts, so that other members can more easily digest them and make them easier to read.
So basically, don't be too lazy to re-read the writing that will be posted. Because doing so, it doesn't take much time, at most it's only a few minutes. Even though it looks trivial, doing habits like this is a very important thing for all members in this btt forum.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: odunybiz on August 20, 2023, 03:22:24 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made.

I observed most forum users access the forum and make post using phone. When typing with phone and the phone is in dictionary mode, it guess and change typed words easily. During the process, words typed may be changed without the you knowing about it. This make it good for one to cross- check your write- up before posting.

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Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

Do you even cross- check this your post before posting. There is also a little error in the post "It is better you reread
you work before posting to avoid mistake" You posted "You" instead of "YOUR".


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Prestongold on August 20, 2023, 06:47:32 AM
One of the problems people often have especially those of us who post, is the habit of trying to finish the post as fast as possible to deliver quickly and get rewarded, I understand the urge to deliver on the post when tasked to do so especially when you get something in return. I think every one of us must invest as much time as needed into our creating process to make sure we create posts with high quality. You can get a feeling of accomplishment whenever you make a post and you see people liking your post and getting merit on what you have posted.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: lousie9 on August 21, 2023, 07:27:33 PM
I observed most forum users access the forum and make post using phone. When typing with phone and the phone is in dictionary mode, it guess and change typed words easily. During the process, words typed may be changed without the you knowing about it. This make it good for one to cross- check your write- up before posting.
Yes you're right, if a user uses a smartphone to make a post, maybe it will also affect the posts they make, such as being a bit messy in format and errors in grammar because of the limited view on a smartphone. It's different when we do it on a computer or laptop, so it's more flexible than viewpoints and easy to type, edit and check back on our posts.
Then one of the other inhibiting factors is that these users are not people who usually use English as their dominant or main language. They only rely on google translate to translate from their local language and sometimes the translation is a bit messy and doesn't fit.
And rush is also one of the problems that can make the posts we provide not conveyed properly. If it turns out that our post has something wrong, then we can still edit it, but as long as we don't always making mistakes that's normal.
One more thing, if there is someone who tries to remind us to correct our mistakes, we should not think that they are hostile to us, but think that it is a criticism that we receive.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on October 14, 2023, 03:24:04 AM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

Mistakes are to be made that's why we learn everyday to correct our mistakes and if we don't make mistakes then we're as perfect as God, so making errors in making post is really hard to avoid unless you engage yourself in the use of AI.
That's another reason why some users make use of AI just to be perfect, being too good and letting others see them as one of the best posters in the Forum.
I prefer being me, making mistakes and learning on how to encounter that mistake in case of next time other than going outside the rules of the Forum. The thing is we make mistakes (not deliberately) to learn from it.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on October 14, 2023, 05:49:01 AM
I can be obsessive compulsive so sometimes when people misunderstand a statement I made it will bother me for an unreasonable amount of time. Even when you are thorough and proofread before clicking the post button mistakes will still happen. It can be difficult to convey a message clearly when communicating through written words only. It is important to revise our words but we also must accept that we are not perfect and mistakes will be made.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Forever101 on October 15, 2023, 03:46:18 AM
Mutual understanding helps information on a long run, so it is paramount to give attention to reviewing and appropriate use of punctuation marks. What is the essence of a post that has lost its meaning, it will be nothing but shit post that generate confusion argument on the forum. That been said, it is also important for readers or viewers to patiently go through a post before commenting. There are people who love to comment even when they do not understand the discussion then pushing the blame on the poster.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Nheer on October 15, 2023, 07:39:23 AM

Getting to preview your post write up before posting it cannot make you dictate your spelling error. I feel the preview button is more important when adding other tags (code, links, image etc) asides from just normal write up in order to get an actual glimpse of how your post will be when published.
The more reason and cause of the spelling errors should be the autocorrect function enabled in phones and also when users are typing too fast than the little the brain can give out at a time can also cause it.
I have been able to dictate and prevented spelling errors in my post while previewing it and i am now more used to the preview because of this, I always make sure i read my post to the end before posting it. The preview is also important when adding tags, smileys and links as you mentioned but all the same, the preview helps us to prevent any kind of mistake before publishing it.

No one like to type slow and i even use it to improve my typing speed so every time i am typing I always want to be as fast as i can and since it’s normal to make typing errors i make use of the preview button to make sure i correct any mistakes.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: dzungmobile on October 15, 2023, 10:22:18 AM
No one like to type slow and i even use it to improve my typing speed so every time i am typing I always want to be as fast as i can and since it’s normal to make typing errors i make use of the preview button to make sure i correct any mistakes.
Do you have good knowledge then idea of your post to join a discussion is important than your typing speed. Because if you don't have knowledge, no idea, you will only make non sense posts and be a professional spammer with high typing speed.

[EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133932.0). 59 shitposts in 60 minutes, very professional speedy spammer.

Many years ago, I used this software KP Typing Tutor (https://download.cnet.com/kp-typing-tutor/3000-2051_4-10421535.html) when I was learning typing on PC. I still have good impression about it, simple, neat and very useful for learning with mini games to improve your typing speed.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: AYOBA on October 15, 2023, 12:07:14 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

Excellent advice! It's a good idea to preview your work before submitting it since typing mistakes might happen, and your mind may believe that what you're doing is correct, but once you post it, you realize that you made some mistakes. It is prudent to double-check anything your writing or typing before submitting it. The most common cause of errors is when you type so quickly that you want to deliver your post as soon as possible.

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I observed most forum users access the forum and make post using phone. When typing with phone and the phone is in dictionary mode, it guess and change typed words easily. During the process, words typed may be changed without the you knowing about it.

Yes honestly, I'd say that 80% of people prefer to publish on their phone because they're used to it. This error is unavoidable even if the phone is not in dictionary mode. It will undoubtedly come at some point. The only way to avoid errors, is to preview your work once you complete typing and read it fully before posting.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on October 15, 2023, 12:15:26 PM
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.

I make many mistakes when I write, and most of the time, I get help from some tools that help me improve my writing. The one tool I use is Grammarly. Grammarly always points out spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, and many more things. It's helping me improve my writing skills. So, when I write without Grammarly, sometimes I write trash. It happens when I write from my mobile device. Your suggestion is good for others, for me too. But, since I am using a tool to improve my writing, I usually do not double-check what I have written. Because I believe the tool will find the mistake for me.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Winterfrost on October 15, 2023, 02:02:23 PM
To Non English Users
Mistake is inevitable, if there is no mistake there is no correction, that is, people make mistake and through the mistake, corrections are made. Most users submit their post without cross checking the write up. So in many times omissions occurred and some ungrammatical statement occurred and English speaking users see them as trash, shit post without correction. It is better you reread you work before posting to avoid mistake. Be a good poster. Avoid mistake. But mistake is inevitable. It most come but not always.
OP I like the fact you said mistakes are inevitable but you should also remember that not everyone here is perfect in writing and not all are from good English speaking countries. I see in your post you made some errors as well in your grammatical functions, use of commas and full stop. Don't get me wrong am not saying am good as well.

Since post here are mostly for the public, reading it all over again is highly appreciated, so that you can avoid shit posting. At least spelling errors should be checked, the main idea/message that your trying to convey should be prioritize at least in the first-two lines. So that the reader would get the message early and would enjoy reading the topic if he finds it interesting and worth engaging. For those using their mobile phones to post on the forum, they should avoid some spelling error tools. Most times it does correct the word to the wrong desired word. That is why everyone advised its best you preview before posting.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: uchegod-21 on October 16, 2023, 09:29:38 PM
Wrong spellings, grammatical errors and wrong punctuations can utter the message we are trying to pass across. Most of us here only adopted English language as a second language.
We are not perfect.

In order not to utter the meaning we had in mind, we must preview, read again and again,  then post! We should not forget to follow up our posts. You might come back to read the post you made 5 mins ago and spot an error.  Especially for us that our mother language tend to interfer with our grammar. Fortunately,  there is an 'edit' option. You still have another chance to correct the mistake(s) you made earlier.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on October 16, 2023, 11:53:07 PM
Wrong spellings, grammatical errors and wrong punctuations can utter the message we are trying to pass across. Most of us here only adopted English language as a second language.
We are not perfect.


In other to be perfect some people intend to make use of AI to make everything better and perfect, is not really encouraged and if some members continue using AI they won't improve in there grammar and spellings.
Sometimes the messages you sending across can be misunderstood by the reader not because you made any grammatical error but they read it wrongly and had that different understanding to what you said, and it will make you feel like you went wrong somewhere. That's to say that errors doesn't only occur from the writer but also the reader too.

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In order not to utter the meaning we had in mind, we must preview, read again and again,  then post! We should not forget to follow up our posts. You might come back to read the post you made 5 mins ago and spot an error.  Especially for us that our mother language tend to interfer with our grammar. Fortunately,  there is an 'edit' option. You still have another chance to correct the mistake(s) you made earlier.

You can preview your post 100times and sometimes you won't be able to get that error you're looking for, it would be later on when you've finished posting maybe some hours later that's when you see that error you were looking for.
Posting has to do with the mind too because you can say you typing "I'll be waiting for you" but when posting you'd noticed that you typed "I'll waiting for you" shit like that happens all the time.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: odunybiz on October 17, 2023, 11:06:35 AM
We should not forget to follow up our posts.

This is common among posters of the forum. People hardly follow their post. I'm inclusive in this and this isn't a nice idea. Post is to teach people and for the poster also to learn. Not following one post may not pass good meaning to the viewers. Let's try to follow up our post so that if questions arise from this post, one can easily answer them.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on October 19, 2023, 11:36:19 PM
This is common among posters of the forum. People hardly follow their post. I'm inclusive in this and this isn't a nice idea. Post is to teach people and for the poster also to learn. Not following one post may not pass good meaning to the viewers. Let's try to follow up our post so that if questions arise from this post, one can easily answer them.

I don't think is really bad not to follow your post, the bad thing is not following it up incase you're being quoted, you might have something to contribute, the thing is you sometimes don't find the time to go back and check on your post if there is any error.
And to me following up post only have to happen if someone quote your reply, but if you're going back to correct any error then it won't be valid. If you edit it and you've been quoted the error can't go off, is best to correct it before posting.


Title: Re: Don't Rush Whenever Posting: Cross Check and Edit before Hitting the post Button
Post by: odunybiz on October 29, 2023, 10:07:42 AM
This is common among posters of the forum. People hardly follow their post. I'm inclusive in this and this isn't a nice idea. Post is to teach people and for the poster also to learn. Not following one post may not pass good meaning to the viewers. Let's try to follow up our post so that if questions arise from this post, one can easily answer them.

I don't think is really bad not to follow your post, the bad thing is not following it up incase you're being quoted, you might have something to contribute, the thing is you sometimes don't find the time to go back and check on your post if there is any error.
And to me following up post only have to happen if someone quote your reply, but if you're going back to correct any error then it won't be valid. If you edit it and you've been quoted the error can't go off, is best to correct it before posting.

You are right that one should cultivate the habit of replying   what so ever you post especially when you are been quoted. This will really help anyone following the post. Cross checking post before posting is also important as said earlier for enable at least 98% error free post.