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As far as the layer 0 goes. The project seems taking a lot of traction lately. Plus there are rumors of the confirmed airdrop since the founder confirmed via twitter that in order to be not in sybil the value of bridge value to their project stargate and most likely to others should be more than $ 100 or at least $455. Check the tweet below.

https://twitter.com/GNAirdrops/status/1683377911502458880?t=yKZz5R2-g9pwDsKQvxDq4g&s=19

Well thats an expensive figure and not for all. But since they arent confirming any info about it yet. The speculations remain mysterious.

For everyone doing or interacting with layerzero found this useful tool or checkin to see your transaction and volume and even ranking on the layerzero race.

https://nftcopilot.com/layer-zero-rank-check

How about moving this thread to the Altcoin board as LayerZero is a project which has nothing to do with this section, I can be wrong. Just thought of giving you a heads-up with the correct board for these sorts of posts. Also, it's crazy how the rich get richer by joining these projects, investing in their protocol by depositing liquidity from multiple accounts and then dumping it on the new users who believe this will make their money go 100x. Once people understand the actual reality of these projects, it all will stop.

This board is not intended for airdrop so just like other posted said its better to move it on altcoin section so that other people who's into altcoin can speculate it and maybe participate on the information you shared. Anyways the thread you created is really good but it was just posted in wrong board so I guess you cannot get engagement in this thread and many will just suggest to move this thread to proper board.

The tool you specified contains too little useful information. But this is just my opinion) And despite the variety of such tools, I wanted to draw your attention to https://dune.com/choise_le11/lepetit, thanks to which, in addition to the information that you will receive using your tool, even more useful information will be provided.

Ops my bad. I didnt noticed it already move it mate.

Yes Im aware with that. Im also referring to dunes for complete information but this tool is rather than a quick view or idea of your total counts and volumes done on the network. Plus the ranking here is might suggest your position for the airdrop as a reference alone not a real basis.

Thanks for sharing the tool. I've been unlucky with some Dune analytics dashboards to track my progress. As for layerzero, it's a promising project with a solid value proposition. This is one project that I do know for a fact will do well especially in the long run.

QQ: Have you tried the NFT Copilot bot? And what tx do you do to increase your chances.

Im anticipating for there would be some airdrop just like on what happened on SUI but checking on their discord or TG group that there would be no airdrop that would happen which it is sad.
We dont know if there would be some possible or it would really be some sort of surprise or whatsoever but good thing to those who had been making those bridging transactions on which
this had been like on Arbitrum which it did really make out that huge money for those who do make out those transactions and now its not shocking that lots would really be
going after with that layerzero.

I think their qualifications for sure are the users of their existing projects that are already life.
For me, using their projects will be good if you are expecting an airdrop, they already have Radiant and Stargate.
We can start using Stargate to gain more transactions, using stargate in multiple chains can do for sure.

Not yet but that link Ive tried already checking only my wallet progress and I must say that Im beyond with the competition need to move funds more haha. Usually Ive used stargate and btc bridge and aptos. Sometimes the layerzero testnet during linea since I need goerlie and some minor dapps or site that affiliated with them but not sure if that was credited. Cause in dunes it takes tike to load and read.

Ooo nice.  Can you post the exact source of where Bryan Pellegrino said that bridge value through Stargate should be at least 455 USD?  I think I have made way more than 1k USD in bridge transactions overall...  And that's on the lower side.  

I also played around Radiant and Rage Trade.

And is there an NFT that needs to be minted in order to have your wallet marked for the airdrop?  Kinda like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFTs.  I haven't been paying attention much with these airdrops as of late.  I like doing them at the start but then I get bored and stop.  Lol.  The Arbitrum airdrop was different as I had fun goofing around the network without expectations of an airdrop.

I am intrigued. Can you link to the tweet that confirms something? Their telegram pinned message (https://t.me/c/1540062342/58178) says that there's no airdrop, snapshot or token coming. And if someone keeps hinting about it they will get banned for misleading info. So i am not sure if there's anything worth speculate. Why would i believe speculators if devs are denying everything so hard.

I had to google LayerZero because i never heard about it before, i thought you were talking about Layer 0 protocol as an infrastructure. But now i know more so thanks for introducing me to this.

They just talking about potential of sybil or like what figure it is. It just got mentioned. Check this out the video interviewed.

https://twitter.com/GNAirdrops/status/1683377911502458880?t=yKZz5R2-g9pwDsKQvxDq4g&s=19

Well attaching this to the post anyway so users might see it.

No mate. Not sure about this one they dont confirm anything on this so everything are wild west guess.

Check out the tweet I send above. It doesnt confirm anything but the fact that they are talking about sybil. If you are an airdrop hunter and they sounded like that. Pretty sure its not just a hint but a clear fact they are doing an airdrop and no need for confirmation since that would blow out of proportions.

Using such bots will make sense if you are going to pump hundreds of wallets to get an airdrop from LayerZero. In the event that you have several wallets, it will not be difficult to interact with the blockchain manually. And besides, you don't have to spend money to buy this bot.

There’s a lot of project that you can look for using Layerzero and if there’s an airdrop for sure many will benefit on that and the only question is that, what’s the value of your transactions to get qualified. Airdrop seems growing again, and there’s a lot of new projects who make a good hype because of the airdrop, its pretty effective.

Thanks for your response - it's duly appreciated although I was asking if anyone has actually tried out the bot to interact with layerzero supported chains. I haven't used any bots to make those interactions, just asking incase someone has first hand experience using it so I can make an informed decision. At the end of the day, these are all tools.

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I stumbled on a posts were the Layerzero CEO gave his opinion about sybil accounts participating and proceeded to say that he isn't bothered about it.

Yes days there are so many airdrop abusers that they are strict when it comes to qualifying. One of them is the volume of your transactions. If you do small transaction you might not qualify.

You also can’t send funds back and forth between accounts. You should also be active from time to time. Don’t just do one transaction and stop. You also should use other networks with your address.

Same with the zksync airdrop. Rules for qualifying will be similar.

I will add to what I said earlier, the use of such a bot can negatively affect your security, since its use requires you to enter your private key when connecting. And despite the fact that the developers of NFT Copilot bot claim that they do not have access to it, I would still refrain from using it.

Everyone have a chance for the aidrop, just follow the instructions and expect nothing since this is just a rumors but most of the time its true. Airdrop is rising again, there’s a lot of big airdrop for this year already, though I also didn’t participate to any but hoping as well to get qualified. Layerzero seems to be one of a good project to look for, I’ll start doing some research about it now and start working for the airdrop.

It's not really because Bryan Pellegrino isn't bothered by it, it's because they don't really have a choice.  These things will always get gamed, so their move is either go on with the airdrop, look the other way and say they're not bothered with it or cancel the airdrop and do something like what SUI did.  The latter would def be frowned on by the community.  Esp the ones who already done their fair share of sweat equity in using the protocol.  Lol.

I for one want to see an airdrop happen and hope that I got in.

To date, there are 2.7 million addresses in LayerZero, which far exceeds the number of addresses that have received airdrop from Arbitrum. Thus, the team will definitely face a dilemma: pay a small amount of coins to each address or reduce the number of addresses by introducing stricter criteria for receiving airdrop.

I agreed. With so many farmers or users that join the layerzero potential retro drop. I can sense that they are really gonna change the criteria to be able to give an ample chance to probably users deserved it. This might not be a general airdrop for all considering how many users want to received the airdrop. Its like they want to give everyone but with the current numbers of participants are too diluted already.

That's a hefty price tbh and they aren't still saying what are the requirements to be eligible for this airdrop when it comes that money be slashed through fees they wouldn't refund it either way. I hope theybshould at least say what are the minimum requirements to be eligible for the airdrop at least.

If you guys want the best chances of getting this airdrop or Zksync. You should try and use your address on the ethereum network. From what I recall ARB didn't have this as an requirement but I feel the airdrop for LayerZero and Zksync will be checking to see if the main ethereum chain has transactions.

When they see that the address was used only a few times and only on one network that wasn't Ethereum, then they will disqualify you or they will just lower the airdrop amount. Most people won't qualify this way most likely since they are farmers and there is no reason for them to use the main ethereum chain.

For me its not good to have some info about it. Any leka might lead to spreading as always. Most airdrops thatvare high quality didnt do any hints but a surprise one. Yes they could say about a potential drop but leaving any details could derail the potential value of it due to massive farmers would take this as huge opportunity. The strict or the lesser the better I guess. With figures of users interacting now, I am starting to think if the value would be still worh it lile previous huge drops.

As for using the zkSync network, you can use the official bridge https://bridge.zksync.io/withdraw, but not for L1->L2, but on the contrary L2->L1. Thus, the cost of a transaction from the zkSync network to the Ethereum network will be 40 cents, instead of $15.

So it means that he really cared less about Sybils and focused more on the activity and usage of LayerZero. I saw that interview on Twitter shared by one of the alpha airdrop hunters that I’ve followed.

The truth is either Sybil or not, the network still benefits from it due to the transaction fees being generated within their network.

As of now I only have a few transactions generated in LayerZero whether minting and bridging an NFT to supported chains and using other Dapps that would interact in this network.

I am more focused on Linea, zkSync ERA and Polygon zkEVM in the mainnet. Will add Starknet and Base to my list of mainnets to farm as well.

I think the latter is the better option imho.  I mean they have to as not doing it would like give more possbility to still be airdropping some amounts of tokens to just one guy who botted the airdrop with multiple wallets.  And there's also a better chance to reduce the tokens ending up with the botters than having the honest users missing out on the airdrop.  But again, IMHO. 

Where'd you get the info that there's 2.7 million eligible addresses?

I think I will start diversifying my interest in various altcoin and projects, sincerely speaking I am way back in terms of newly projects and altcoin information, if not for few altcoin back then I followed up I don't know of the recent currently. However airdrop are sometimes very rewarding but most people have jeopardize the purpose of airdrops. Well since I know less about the project I won't further talk anything else against this airdrop as i believe it's coming from a trusted user.

Even with complex rules in airdrop projects, abusers still finds a way to exploits projects and profit from it. Real people are the one who are suffering given that the reward pool of projects are being reduced as joiners exceeds. I wonder how much abusers made from the easy airdrop like akhram when so many people missed their chance on getting their probable airdrop tokens because they missed some requirements. 2.7 million addresses are so mamy that it's obviously botted or abused.

There are a huge number of services that allow you to track statistical information about L0, which allow you to get comprehensive statistics not only about the L0 network, but also specifically for each wallet that carried out transactions in LayerZero. Here I will give one of them that I use: https://dune.com/cryptoded/layerzero

https://i.ibb.co/tqPhPJv/363296927-831225305017872-2920549441135230246-n-650x410.jpg (https://ibb.co/8r4B47f)

we don't know their actual requirements but would be good if you will cover all possible angles if you are really into getting their airdrop. you can also get hints from what they are saying in their social media channels. it won't hurt checking their channels to see what they are currently up to. the success of the airdrop depends on the people behind it, to what extent they will develop the project before it hits the trading platforms.

i guess they won't, the unannounced criterie was kept so that they don't get overflowed by people that purposefully use the platform just so that they could be eligible for the airdrop criteria.
its just their part of strategy to keep the rewards high I guess.
after all there are so many used this platform already and I think the airdrop also won't be that significant but then again we don't know for sure.
after all speaking from the past experience with some other platform that did a retroactive airdrop, they just never reveal the criteria until the day of the airdrop claims.

Given the fact that there are more than 2.7 million active wallets registered on the network, it can be assumed that their owners have left enough money to be qualified to receive airdrop. In addition, it is safe to say that L0 is really 100% tested by such a large number of transactions. So the team should be pleased with such increased attention from users.

An got it...  But I don't think all 2.7 million them will be eligible for the airdrop tho as I'm pretty sure a lot of users own multiple addresses all at once.  And as you guys already pointed out, the guys Layer Zero are aware of the shenanigans going on.  I'm pretty sure it will be filtered down and prolly less than 100k addresses will be eligible.  Maybe even less.  Dunno...

Anyway, I think we'll have a list of eligibility in a couple of months.

Of course, there will definitely be minimum criteria for obtaining airdrop. Accordingly, those who have completed several transactions for the minimum amount will be filtered out. But if we take into account that the Arbitrum team distributed airdrop for 600 thousand wallets, despite the fact that 1.5 million active addresses were registered on the network, your assumption that airdrop will receive about 100k wallets looks too small.

I have never used their official bridge yet. I mostly use Orbiter Finance and Symbiosis to bridge to and from zkSync Era and other chains while I am farming retroactive drops here and there.

But this one got me interested however that it only cost approximately 40 cents to transfer from zkSync Era to Ethereum.

As for Linea mainnet when trying their native bridge, I usually waited like 20 minutes before it credited to my balance. But using Orbiter however only takes me a few minutes to wait.

I guess we'll have to see how strict they are at filtering out those very active addresses that make small transactions everyday which clearly are those guys who are trying to game the airdrop. 

But I'm thinking if ever I'm eligible, I'd rather they filter it out more addresses more strictly so the airdrop could have a higher possibility if giving out more per address rather than having a million addresses and give out less.  Lol. 

Small or big transactions, do transactions daily or after some weeks or months, they are not enough to convince one wallet address belongs to a real user or an airdrop, bounty hunter. It is hard to identify with very raw and on tip of iceberg data like these.

Projects will use more conditions, parameters to filter as many cheaters as possible from abundant addresses. Last but not least, no assessment will be able to filter and prevent cheaters to claim or to receive many tokens. It will drain more resource financially to support the project in development and marketing.

I won't be surprised if the L0 team takes a similar route otherwise, the rewards will be severely diluted. I know the CEO has made his stance known but I do think that they would take some initiatives from OP and Arbitrum to ensure that they distribute majority of the allocation to a wider range of its coming. I expect the total number of registered address to hit 5M or more prior to the snapshot date.

At this point, the more L0 makes huge, the more people will interact with it even if some of those users will be sybil.

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Btw, has anyone tried this new service from Merkly team? https://twitter.com/merkly_com/status/1686074853672042526?s=19 gives users several options to interact with contracts on L0.

This is a very convenient and cheap gas bridge that allows you to refuel gas in any network using the LayerZero network. At the same time, transaction costs can reach only a few cents, depending on the network you choose. Thus, using https://minter.merkly.com/gas you can easily increase the number of transactions in L0 for little money.

Yup, I mean they have to filter them out.  Most those guys who are gaming and cheating the airdrop are not really users of the Layer Zero protocols.  When the airdrop is over, they will just surely dump their tokens and leave.  And that isn't a good way to start getting users in the project.  All it did was give cheaters some money to fk the project over.  Lol.

So I wouldn't be surprised if Layer Zero filtered out a lot more addresses than Arbitrum did.  :/

the huge downsides in using 3rd party bridges like the one you mentioned that it possibly didn't count for the airdrops eligibility of bridging the assets from ethereum to these 2nd layer.
after all using the official ones you are executing their official smart contract which might have strong relation towards the qualifications and eligibility of some address in the future airdrops, if they
ever gonna held airdrops.
i'd just say maybe you should try using their official ones.

It's hard to be eligible in this kind of airdrop, back then you can do it for free but now it's getting harder because having an involvement and participation with the network are one of the requirements now. Though layerzero surely will have an airdrop for everyone who are early supporters and adopters but sadly only few people can participate with funds on their wallet.

I would try for at least once in zkSync’s main bridge. I’ve done that in Linea mainnet when I am using their own native bridge but took me like almost 30 minutes to wait in bridging mainnet ETH to Linea ETH.

As for 3rd party bridges like Orbiter and Symbiosis, they do not have their respective token yet. But I believe they would reward early adopters who have used their bridges once their token officially launches. These are just my own speculations.

these are fair points I guess these third party bridging service like those mentioned are also worth it to try, after all it also indirectly add to the fact that we've used their smart contract and also this means higher qualification or eligibility for getting the airdrops if there's ever one.
but the most important thing is still using zksync main bridge just in case, since past airdrops like arbitrum counts using official bridge independently which means it's just worth it despite the fact that it might take quite a long time to get it done, after all these bridge of the 2nd layer are strangely enough took too much time.

Yeah sadly its changing now. But there are airdrops that are literally free. So if ever you got some free tokens that are worth a lot. You must use those fund to circulate and aim for other retroactive airdrops like layerzero. Some other hunter are only using those funds like cashing out but not investing or use it to gain activity on other potential ones.

Infact many people recieved free airdrops from other projects and now they are using this free fund in other networks to be eligible for all spectacular airdrops. Most of these projects airdrop requirements are doing transaction in their network like Arbitrum, optimism and some dex requirements was making transaction in their network and using bridge respectively but some projects also given free airdrops like APtos, sui whitelist and condition was only to join theirs discord channel before the news of the airdrop.

Layerzero is looking big airdrops and i made more than 10 transaction and generated 3k$ volume and my target is 50 transaction and 10k$ volume this year.

Thats good to hear. But since there is no telling when or if snapshots has been taken this will be a long run. For sure its not done yet as the ceo seems wanted to make this a long journey and see how many platforms they can accomodate and using layerzero technology.  Maybe better to interact a lot on their partners or trusted affiliated projects especially stargate which we know thir first dapp.

Yes hopefully still snapshot not has been taken. Most of time the snapshot date is one day before TGE or listing news. I have interected with official dap and now partner dapp will be next to interect with it

Voting may be also one criteria for airdrop and for this I have staked stg tokens and voted more than five proposals

Can't afford to generate thousands of volume yet in Layer Zero. Although I do have transactions generated and validated in the LayerZero network, I was hoping that I can have more funds to play in their network.

If I was not hacked and lost $5k+ last April, I could have afford at least $1k to spare in doing massive Layer Zero transaction volumes from time to time.

These 3rd party bridges like Orbiter, Symbiosis, Syncswap, etc., with no token is something that I am speculating for a potential airdrop when their token launches just like Uniswap did years ago. 

Orbiter and syncswap did confirm of a token and possible that airdrop is line up on their end. However we cant be sure when they will deploy since they are probably waiting for zksync to launch first before doing their own. But compared to layerzero or zksync, I think the zro tokens will do it first. As per the zksync developers it will be at a later date.

Arbitrum did not have such a mandatory requirement to use an official bridge. Accordingly, to qualify, it was enough to use any bridge to transfer funds to Arbitrum Nova and Arbitrum One. But in any case, if you use the official bridge, it will not be superfluous.

Good to see this thread. I took a look at how much volume I made again, it was very insufficient, I plan to make at least 1k usd volume by the end of the year. One of the most popular projects at the moment has a high airdrop potential at the same time. A lot of people are trading for airdrops on layerzero platforms.

I haven't had much luck with airdrops such as arb, uniswap, maybe my luck will return in Layerzero, even though I have no hope, I should not give up trying luck.

These kinds of airdrops are actually becoming the norm after the first airdrop of this kind which was Arbitrum. People saw that early users of Arbitrum protocol got a lot of money through the airdrop because they used the network and their products and made a lot of transactions, and now people have started using every single protocol at its early stage because they expect there will be an airdrop and they should be already eligible for it.

A lot of protocols are getting a lot of users willing to test their testnet or mainnet or any product they are about to launch because they want to make themselves eligible for a potential airdrop if they are going to have any, and if they don't, they will just be wasting some money on gas fees, etc.

thats new information for me, considering the fact that the official bridge is rather sluggish and slow, on top of that expensive too, I guess its just better to use 3rd party bridges, moreover if layerzero's stargate finance is allowing bridging for various blockchain that has yet to be releasing their token or just rumoured to have that token we'd have the chance to be eligible all at once.
but its true that using the official bridge at least once is much better just for the sake of anticipating to get qualified in the airdrops.
after all with how discreet the qualifications are and how the devs usually don't really reveal them, its just better to do anything that might get us qualified.

I think that a volume of $1,000 will not be enough. So the minimum amount that gave additional qualifications for receiving airdrop from Arbitrum was at the level of $ 10,000. And I think that it is necessary to strive for this figure, especially since the commission is not affected by the volume of your transaction.

If only I was not hacked both last year and this year, I could have afforded to have at least $10,000 volume to interact with LayerZero and other chains. Now I can only afford up to $100 in average to do some volume in either LayerZero, zkSync Era, Linea, etc.

For sure not all can afford to have at least $10,000 volume especially if we are living in a 3rd world country and living in a minimum wage.

Right now I have hope because of Sei because they’ve recently confirmed an airdrop from their official accounts (Sei Network and Sei Foundation) in which I have activities in their Edge Blocked quests and bridging event.

It could prolly get some ZRO's but don't expect anything more than 500 USD.  I think after the devs saw how APT, ARB and the rest were gamed so badly for airdrops, they'd be a lot more tight with their filtering process.

And with all the airdrop guides circulating in CT telling you to bridge to all these different chains for small amounts and interact with all these different contracts, again for small amounts, isn't it becoming so obvious that it's just shenanigans?  Surely the Zero Layer's devs are smart enough to know.

$1k definitely enough even some of the airdrops out there only require specific qualifications that don't necessarily requires you to spend and create that much volume.
most of them are just adding criteria of having interacted with their smart contract codes and thats it.
i guess layerzero gonna be the same, you just required to interact with their blockchain, basically having recoded contract execution or some sort that gets recorded in layerzero itself and then you're eligible but then again its just assumption.
after all, just the same usually with these airdrops in general, they didn't disclose the qualifications for the sake of getting people into trying everything out in their blockchain.

Nope, not really imho.  I mean it could have a chance to get an airdrop but there's also a chance it couldn't.  It's just a tad small for how many people are using Layer Zero stuff and the volume a lot of people put in.  You wanna be sure to get in the airdrop..?  Make sure you made at least 10k USD in transaction volume.  1k is good, but it's 50/50.

And like I said in a post prior to this one, use it if you really want or need to use it for what it is.  Don't use it like you're a bot who makes small transactions everyday just to get your onchain activity up.

As for the volume, this will necessarily act as an additional criterion when determining the size of the airdrop. The team will not distribute the same amount of airdrop for all wallets that were registered in the blockchain and, accordingly, different criteria will be required so that everyone's contribution is appreciated.

How about this...  What if there were a ton of people who gamed the airdrop that made around 1k USD of volume that it won't make sense for Layer Zero Labs to give the ZRO tokens as it would fck up distribution.  Imagine giving people who own 10 or more wallets and all they'll do is dump their tokens and leave.  That's the exact opposite of what they're trying to do here.  They want an organic way to set their project up, not enrich people who don't care about the protocol.  So they better be careful how they proceed with the airdrop.

They have learned from other past airdrop project mistake. Abusers will always be there and I think they are being careful on lessening the amount of potential abuse they can get from those abusers. The more effort you do in their project is the more reward you can get. Not everyone can do their speculated requirements since it requires some amount of money to execute and I think it should how airdrop project do in distributing their tokens. I personally think it's a good way to lessen those people who are just joining to abuse and not really care about the project.

The upcoming airdrop will be no different from those that were before. Almost almost all those who received airdrop sell the received coins in the first minutes of listing on the stock exchange, since everyone knows well that after the pump, there will definitely be a dump.

^  Looks like the Layer Zero devs teamed up with Nomis to help filter their list of eligible people who'll get into the airdrop.  You guys can check their announcements on Twitter and check out how to get what your scores are.  I got 51/100 which is enough to be eligible for an airdrop.  And just as I said, I used a couple of L0 protocols a few times when I really needed to and made more than 10k USD of volume.  Didn't really expect to get in but I had a feeling I would like I did with the ARB airdrop.

Anyway, I heard more than 10k wallets are marked for botting and the count is going up as we speak.

that has always been the case that why some airdrops nowadays enforce sybil to eliminate the cheaters but even then its still not enough.
considering the most airdrop hunter sole purpose was gaining money doesn't matter if the project itself is falling then I could roughly guess as you said the dumping will take place in first minute, its kind of self fulfilling prophecy honestly, the airdrop hunter is dumping their coin because they know from looking at the history of the same similar airdrop it always dumping after some moment, but the reason its dumping is because the airdrop hunter itself just trying to dump it as fast as they can to avoid future dumping, but I think the developers of the project have already definitely calculated such possibilities.

Instead of just giving away tokens in an airdrop, if these projects want to actually get users then they need to take the approach Q Blockchain took and do a DeFi incentive program. Only give tokens to people who participate in DeFi on the chain.

^  That's what many projects do.  It still doesn't stop a lot of guys from creating 1000 different wallets and make it their job to interact with the protocols to get their onchain activity up.  And it's funny cos you see these guys interact with the project more than a thousand times, yet their total transaction volume is less than 1000 USD.  :D  And they're the ones who complain a lot.  :D


It's frowned upon but dumping after receiving the airdrop is not the problem.  It's having people who control 100 wallets at a time to game as much of the airdrop as they can is the problem.  Project dev teams want token distribution to be as organic as possible through their airdrop.  It's hard to achieve that goal if you got just a few hundred guys controlling most of the supply.

LayerZero will not use Nomis data to qualify airdrop, as it would be a stupid decision to force its users to mint NFT on a third-party service in order to be qualified in L0. And if you really only used a couple of protocols, then you are unlikely to get an airdrop from L0, regardless of what rating Nomis showed you. I am sure that it will not be difficult for the LayerZero team to develop their own criteria for airdrop distribution, using the successful experience of projects such as Arbitrium and Optimism.

^  Dunno, Layer Zero tweeted about it and made it look like it was some sort of partnership with Nomis.  So for just 8 bucks it wouldn't hurt to mint the NFT if you're eligible as proof of some sort.  Maybe it's going to be kinda like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFT a few months before the airdrop happened, who knows...  I minted mine just in case.

There's also another NFT I minted from another one of Layer Zero's partnership.  It was a free mint in Arbitrum.  Again, wouldn't hurt to have them.

Some information is being spread on social (unverified) about the fact that Layerzero will not perform the airdrop, according to the video content shared about Robert (L0 representative at the Token2049 event) "this is no airdrop" , pretty much everything I see is disappointing. However, Bryan (CEO L0) shared that it was just cut and edited content.

According to speculation, I will implicitly understand this as an opinion that L0 may still have an airdrop.

Along with that are some rumors about legal risks of FTX vs L0. With a positive view, I think it will not have a big impact on L0 is next plans because L0 is investors are very strong. And imo, it is likely that L0 will soon launch tokens to return to the market because FTX itself is waiting to be licensed to return money to previous investors.

I also checked this video and look like this video is fake and edited video and audio is not real. Layerzero not announced anything about airdrop which is right work. Whenever any project are not talking about airdrop we saw big airdrop from these projects such as Arbitrum, optimism and other dex airdrop. On the other sides projects which attract users through airdrop are giving very low airdrop. Layerzero earned so much through bridge gas fee and hope they will airdrop all those just like uniswap and will not disappoint the early investors.

I hope so , it will not impact big because FTX sue many other platforms too and they sues Layerzero 21 million. First It is not necessary that FTX will win this case, suppose that FTX win then it will not big deal to give 21 million as you says their investors are strong and second they have already earned so much...
Read full article:
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ftx-sues-layer-zero-labs-seeks-recover-millions-bankruptcy

If you believe in such multipliers, then you should also get a badge from Nomis on the zkSync network, which, like L0, costs about $8. I have more confidence in the service https://dune.com/springzhang/layerzero-users-ranking-for-potential-airdrop. Try to check your wallet there and if it does not enter the TOP 500k, then a badge from Nomis is unlikely to help you.

Yes. you are correct. Because normally in the mainnet airdrops, they will not consider the third-party calculations. I hope they will filter out the Sybil wallets and the bots. if you are intereacting more dapps with the volumes, you will be eligible for the airdrop. In addition to that, they may check the voting and LP as well.


They can filter out the hunters like this.

1. Interact with more than 100 contracts. (They are not real users)
2. They can check wallet balance.
3. Wallet age of more than 200 days.

With Layer Zero getting on board Nomis, I think it's not totally about the multiplier.  It's more about helping Layer Zero's devs figure out how to filter the botters out of the airdrop list.  And again for just 8 bucks, I'm minting my score just in case it's gonna be something like Arbitrum's Odyssey NFT.  I think the minters were given more points in the Arbitrum Foundation's list of eligible people.  Dunno...   

But then again yeah, it could also be nothing.  But we'll see, we don't even know if an airdrop will really happen.  They could do a SUI for all we know.  :/

Odyssey NFT was not a multiplier in the distribution of airdrop from Arbitrum. All the criteria that influenced the size of the airdrop are on the page https://arbitrum.foundation/eligibility and Odyssey NFT is missing among them. We can only be happy for Nomis, which has received about 700 thousand dollars from users who think the same way as you.

i've done exactly the same just in case, with these retroactive no one knows for sure whats gonna be the qualification.
considering the fact that in the past with coin like sui where everyone quite literally speculated complicated task to be eligible for their whitelisting turns out it was as simple as just joining their discord.
with layer zero i think it will be more of like arbitrum but then again its just unbased speculation. so I guess just minting it wouldn't hurt.
just kinda wish the reward would be worth it but then again too many following the airdrops.

It didn't in the end because a lot of people were botting it.  Layer Zero and Nomis' partnership is different as Nomis filters the botters out which makes minting the NFT have more sense as proof that you got your score at a specified date.

And it could discourage botters from gaming the airdrop now.  So I think it's the best time to start getting active again as the devs could give more credence to the data after the partnership was made.

I saw in a video that a group of people from China doing airdrop farming in an office. This seems insane at first glance, but it seems logical if you look into other projects like arbitrum and optimism. Their profit share changed lot of people's lives. All this is a speculative approach, and all of their work can be in vain because no one knows about the possible requirements to be eligible for the airdrop.

There are no layer zero airdrops. One of the developers of the Layer Zero team(With proof) confirmed it. Most of the airdrop hunters used the Arbitrum Airdrop money to farm the layzero airdrop. End of the day you are being farmed by the protocol.  You will get nothing.

Cite the source dude. Its not like theres a real confirmation from the devs themselves. List it with the comment so we could check if you are right. You might probably right when you say some devs taking advantage of the protocol from users but they havent said about it so its seems that users were just doing it on their own scheme. Since they didnt promise any, its not their obligations so this is quite risky actually. Not having airdrop is a bit critical if they announced it now sicne mostly will pullback and remoge their fair shares.

so does arbitrum devs kept saying that there are no airdrops when the qualifications hasn't been revealed yet you see that coin is among the one that have most massive airdrops.
you can't really trust what these devs are tweeting because decision could always changes, its quite literally the thing with retroactive airdrops, everything is uncertain but you just did something that might increase your chance of getting eligible for the upcoming airdrops if any, if there's not any of airdrops planned, then thats okay.
after all most of retroactive airdrops i'm sure already know that their money spent for gas fee testing out the blockchain might just for naught.

the thing is that, there are some people that are already receiving airdrop from other project like arbitrum willing to spent fortune for the sake of getting many wallets to be eligible, I don't think the fact that it requires gas for fulfilling eligiblity criteria gonna be a problem for those that willing to farm the airdrops.
therefore the devs would just make some unique criteria for the sake of eliminating the usual routine of fulfilling eligibility that some of the farmers are doing.
maybe they gonna make some stunt like sui has did in the past, no one knows, but I think the devs themselves have already thought of some measure.

As a rule, all project teams deny the fact that there will be an airdrop. But as practice shows, the distribution of airdrop is beneficial not only to early users, but also to members of the project team. After all, no one can know how many wallets belong to them and what kind of distribution they will receive if they know all the criteria that will affect the size of the airdrop.

I received $10K(multiple accounts) from the Optimism Round 3 today. But there are no layer zero airdrops btw ;D.  So don't waste your money on layer zero.  Also, they will farm forever.  First, they need to focus on the FTX case against them. It was a 45M deal.

Actually arbitrum not announced yet about they have an airdrop and depend with us how to get opportunity by trust with their site for swapping coins, I am lucky earn crypton coins and swap there for receiving their qualifying airdrop. For retroactive usually not announce yet they have an active airdrop and allocated how much percent for user active in their dapp exchange. I think need braveness for betting when looking for new retroactive in the future and have spent around 10$ to $50 as fees transaction for qualifying their airdrop criteria if there are have an airdrop later. Not any new retroactive project will announce they have an airdrop project and allocated with how many percent for all participants but they will announce later or when deadline have pass for qualifying or receiving an airdrop coins.
If not brave for losing fund to fees swap recovery I don't think will success participating in retroactive airdrop, keep away will earn retroactive airdrop if won't loss fund early.

What impossible requirements?  I mean sure higher volume would help get you into the list but it's not exactly a prerequisite.  What Layer Zero is trying to stop are the botters.  This time it's a partnership with Nomis and I think it's going to be with a couple other projects next.  And pretty sure there will be a lot of legit users' wallets who'll be marked as botters.  It's gonna suck but it is what it is.  :/

Stay safe out there guys.

Since you are so sure that there will be no airdrop from LayerZero, then you have a great opportunity to increase your deposit. Bets are accepted on Polymarket https://polymarket.com/event/layerzero-airdrop-by-oct-31 and if the L0 team does not announce an airdrop by October 31, then the victory will be yours.

$10k how? I checked many users just received 10-100 tokens and also eligibility criteria was to delegate votes and minimum OP is I think 100 OP. Layerzero airdrop is confirmed and I am not agree with you. Layerzero token ZRO will be launch soon and I hope airdrop will be bigger than arbitrum. FTX case is serious issue but hope they will overcome this case. I made many transaction for Layerzero airdrop but unfortunately didn't delegated OP so I didn't get any token in third airdrop.

I found site for checking Layerzero rank based on Arbitrum airdrop.
https://nftcopilot.com/layer-zero-rank-check?

One says that there will definitely be no airdrop, the other claims that the airdrop LayerZero has already been confirmed, but no one gives any evidence here. If you know more than others, indicate a link where can find confirmation of your words.

There isn't any official confirmation that there will be an airdrop. If the team announced any possible ZRO token creation in the future, then it would be logical to think of an airdrop. There is no mention of any ZRO tokens from the team either. Only some speculative leak data from GitHub mentioned a token called ZRO. No one knows the true purpose of it in those GitHub pages.  :(

I am using this method called the island method. What you can do the airdrop farming from multiple devices(one internet connection per one device). If you are using one internet connection to all the devices, then your public IP address is the same. So you will be flagged by the project team.

Also, you have to maintain a separate exchange account to avoid the Sybil behaviours(If you use used same exchange account for all the devices, then your withdrawal address will be the same).

Another point is to try to use the refuel feature to get the gas fees. Always avoid the wallet to wallet transfers.

It's funny, they ask you how much you delegated to the OP to get 10 thousand dollars in the third round of airdrop from Optimism, but you give advice on how to interact with the protocols so that you are not considered Sybil. So how much did you delegate to OP to get this size of airdrop?

I delegated a total of around 10,000 OP(Received from Optimism round 1 and round 2) to other voters.

Eg:
Wallet A = 2000 OP
Wallet B = 2000 OP
Wallet c = 2000 OP
Wallet D = 2000 OP
Wallet E = 2000 OP

The video which attributed to the Layerzero Devolpers is not real and has been edit. If It is true then also i think this is just joke because you can clearly see the smile on the face of the devolpers in the video. Whenever any big projects denied that they will give airdrop then chances of airdrop become high. Maybe this message is just to control the users who using multiple accounts for airdrop hunting to stop them and only real users will remain. Many times we have seen that project denied for airdrop and at the end they gives big airdrop so we could also expect same from Layerzero.

I spent a lot of time doing Layerzero and Lamina1 bounty tasks, and for nothing. It's easier to get rewards from Q Blockchain's saving and borrowing program or QUAI by retweeting their content. Those projects actually pay out their rewards.

To be honest, you might be sound real. But if you think about it, layerzero would launch a token sincr they have a Vc and the longest speculation they got for an airdrop seems to be favor them since a lot inject liquidity and do some major transactions.. They arent gonna rubbish enough to be an asshole not to give a gartitude for that unless they are using everyone to boost only their protocol. A good developer would fee the needed to do so especially if you knew that your project would be supportef by dozen of community.

I've been hearing more people saying that the Layer Zero brass has most likely decided not to go thru with the airdrop or at least not to do it anytime soon.  :/  It's both good and bad.  It's good cos it gives us more time to up our scores and eligibility.  The bad is I think I've done enough to be eligible but would have to wait a little longer to get some free money...  Lolol.  :D

But it's fine...  The new Arbitrum Odyssey is gonna start in three or so days anyway.  It doesn't really promise of any airdrop but you never know.

I think that the team is deliberately pushing back the release of a new token, since this allows it to regularly receive $2 million monthly due to commissions. In addition, there are still a lot of blockchains that are not yet integrated into L0 and it takes more time to integrate them.

If they gonna do an airdrop, L0 gonna have hard time filtering out sybils. They should try something new and reward each address that interacted with it, even minimally. Every project tries to resist sybils, for once they should try aforementioned and see how it goes. In filtering out sybils, lot of genuine users gets filtered, and good sybils gets airdrop anyway.

In my experience, projects that reward generously are hit in market while miserly ones bit the dust.

I am sure that the team will not distribute airdrop to all registered addresses, since their number has already exceeded 3 million. And it is unknown how many more new wallets will be registered, which will also be able to claim airdrop from L0. I think that airdrop will be distributed to about 500 thousand wallets that had the largest number of interactions with LayerZero.

For that, they need to remove the Sybil and bot wallets. Otherwise, it will be a shit drop.  but the problem is that Layerzero's CEO said they do not care about Sybil wallets. I don't know he said it to farm the layer zero airdrop. because nowadays protocols give some fake hints farm the airdrops.

Eg.: Lens protocol airdrop(airdrop text mentioned in their Twitter image.). but later they said that "there will be no airdrop or token"

Six months ago, the CEO of LayerZero Labs Bryan Pellegrino announced the size of the average transaction on the network, so as not to be considered a sybil. And it should be $2000 - https://twitter.com/PrimordialAA/status/1643648195128606721 I hope that he has revised his views by this issue over the past time, otherwise few people will receive an airdrop from L0.

He said this to farm the protocol. We can compare allocation with the number of users like this.

ZRO total supply = 1 Billion

Assume they will airdrop the 10%  from the total supply, Then airdrop allocation = 1B *10% = 100M

I assume this will be allocation(Roughly) per user.

Ultra worst case = 100M/3M = 33 ZRO
Worst case = 100M /1M = 100 ZRO
Middle case = 100M/ 800K = 125 ZRO
good case = 100M/ 500K = 200 ZRO
Best case =  100M/ 250K = 400 ZRO
Ultra Best case = 100M / 100K = 1000 ZRO

Normally all the mainnet airdrops target the number of users between 300K-500K. In that case, ZRO allocation will be around 200-400 ZRO per user.  Also, the $ZRO private sale price is 3$(already ended).  That means the listing price can go to 5-10$.

Your math calculation is nice to see but unfortunately you didn't take some things into consideration for your calculations. For instance, There would most likely be varying amount per participant – all participants won't receive same amounts. That, and the fact that layerzero has about 500K+ active Mainnet users the last time I checked. If you factor all of this in, you'll see that the allocation will differ per user.

This is only to get the rough idea about the ZRO per user. Yes. this will be change by user to user. Also they may be check the wallet history like the celestia airdrop. Then they can remove the airdrop farmers and the bots.

Eg :

1. number of Ethereum transactions.
2. Wallet age.
3. First transaction date.
4. ETH staking
5. Voting

You have obviously been interested in LayerZero statistics for a very long time, since today more than 3 million wallets have been registered that interacted with L0 and which theoretically have the right to airdrop. Given such a large number of wallets, we can say for sure that not everyone will receive airdrop, as the team will develop certain criteria that will reduce their number several times.

Ah yes, I knew the number is higher but I haven't actually checked it recently. That number should be over 3M by now since it has been over a month since the team celebrated over 30M messages sent across chains using Layerzero. That said, that number might ve slightly higher now. Although farming rate slowly temporarily when news about the possibility of the airdrop not happening broke up 2 weeks ago.


Absolutely, I was just pointing out it's not a straightforward process as the team will have to clean up the data. For instance, they would remove Sybil violators in the Hop Protocol list as OP and Arbitrum did.

Good estimation. I agree with your price estimation, I think LayerZero should have FDV similar to Arbitrum and Optimism, i.e. within $5B-$10B range.

I wasn't following LayerZero back in the day, but where do you get that private token sale price? Can you share the source?

This is the private sale(Not the public sale). According to the that TGE is Q4 2023(October-December). Please check the source. This is shared with private sale investors.

Source : https://ibb.co/qjfGBhK

We dont know whether there would be some conceivable or it would truly be some kind of shock or at all however beneficial thing to the individuals who had been making those connecting exchanges on which this had been similar to on Arbitrum which it did truly bring in out that immense cash for the people who in all actuality do make out those exchanges and presently its not stunning that parcels would truly be pursuing with that layerzero.

In my experience with Arbitrum, which I really didn't expect to be eligible for the airdrop, I just used it for less than couple of months or so thru Dopex, GMX and a little bit of RDNT and Jones.  I didn't even realize that I had more than 10k USD in transactions over there.  So I was really surprised to see that it was enough to be eligible for the airdrop.  I think it's gonna be the same for Layer Zero.  They'll see wallet activity and they'll know which ones are just botting the network for the airdrop and which ones are the organic users of the likes Stargate Finance and Layer Zero supported protocols.

Btw...  I'm hearing talks that Aptos is gonna have another airdrop round.

I don't thinks so. Most of the people think they will distribute an another airdrop from community section(51%). Because if you checked the vesting schedule, there will be 0.63% unlock every month(until total 51%) from the community section. so that will cover the remaining 51%. So there is no remaining aptos tokens to do the airdrop.

I think the real reason why the devs at Layer Zero haven't made any moves to prepare for their airdrop is because of the bearish market conditions but now that we seem to be at the cusp of a more bullish mode, I feel like Layer Zero and other projects with the potential to airdrop could start airdropping just in time for December.  ;)  Let's see...

But as you guys already know, the money flows from BTC to the top altcoins, then to the lower cap alts, to memecoins and micro cap alts.  I think major airdrops like Layer Zero start a tad before when the money flows to the top alts...  I'm thinking December as already said.

They are probably having hard time figuring out what should be criteria cause literally everyone is farming it. I wouldn't be surprised if they give up doing airdrop altogether.

If farming itself wasn't enough, people are making tools to farm it easily. For example, automatically making certain number of transactions a day, transferring nfts automatically to different networks through layerzero network. I feel retro airdrop trend is coming to an end.

I think the governance voting will be the most criteria for the Airdrop, and also the bridging volume on Layer Zero will be important for the airdrop. The more a user interacts the more chances will be a bigger airdrop. Recently 2 big airdrops happened in my life. One is the Airdrop from the Aptos which gives user a huge profit through their Airdrop. The 2nd one is the Arbitrum Airdrop which also gives a huge airdrop to the user.

Rumors are making that Arbitrum 2 Airdrop will be coming very near as they recently launched their NFT which is their anniversary NFT's. So most users claim that NFT and they are thinking that maybe this will be the criteria for the 2nd Airdrop from the Arbitrum. Let's wait and hope for the best.

honestly speaking from experience, i'd never expect anniversary NFT to be the qualification for an airdrop, never in my life i've seen airdrop qualification for anniversary even seeing it from the perspective of business is just simply silly but I guess who knows after all these criteria are so random better to be on the safe side than sorry and not getting the airdrop.
but I think even if there is an airdrop it will not be as massive as it was back then, personally i'm waiting for layerzero more but even layerzero having millions of active addresses already, i really don't have high hopes for this airdrops.
even worst with zksync, too much participants.

A large number of participants cannot be the reason for the cancellation of airdrop. And if the team decides to distribute an airdrop for only 1000 wallets, they will come up with such criteria that only 1000 lucky people will receive this airdrop.

If the team is giving an airdrop I don't think the users matter a lot, for example, if a team has a large supply of airdrops for the users I don't think it will make more impact on getting more users although it will have less for the eligible wallet but at least they will get an airdrop. As Airdrops are scams nowadays I have seen so many recently that didn't even provide the airdrop although they did better funding.
Will funding be any key for the Airdrop? Because I have seen many users have already told me about the funding it will be the first and the better criteria for any airdrop.
But I don't know if it works or if this is just people's assumptions. I already have so many tasks to do. I had farmed these airdrops but only got the Arbitrum.

I have seen different presumably criteria for layer0 airdrop.  It is had to keep up, some go as far as claiming snapshot already taken. Only the team can say for a fact if there is going to be an airdrop and the criteria.

One thing I do like about farming L0 is the fact it is not required to bridge eth to the blockchain,  you can interact with any l2 eth or native eth if you want. I consider it cost effective farming. Lots of layer0 powerd platform to mint cheap nft, bridge and swap, also can provide liquidity.
Hopefully, the whole interaction will not be a big time and money wasted.

Couple years ago paraswap did something like this, they had strict criteria so only few thousand wallets were eligible, but those few got good number of $PSP tokens. What happened? They dumped it hard, $PSP is still in ashes.

Yes, it may turn out that the snapshot was taken a few months earlier and all the activity on the network is a waste of money. So the team can give us a similar surprise, as did Celestia $TIA, who took a snapshot in January 2023, that is, 9 months before the airdrop.

This pic has been floating around online...

https://i.postimg.cc/GpycBTxf/17-AF5-A87-2-FD5-4-D48-9361-E99576-EE059-F.png

That's an SSL certificate.  And according to some guys Arbitrum airdropped a couple of days after they created their SSL certificates.  :/  So we'll prolly have an announcement in the next coming days from the Layer Zero devs?

Man...  Now that I feel it's really coming the lesser I think I am of my eligibility.  Like how I used Arbitrum, it was all real, organic usage.  No bs farming.  But my transaction volume for both is over 10k.  I hope it's enough.

This SSL certificate discovery certainly caused a stir, with LayerZero Q4 airdrop predictions hitting 75% on Polymarket at peak yesterday. But it has going down back to 44% now.

https://i.postimg.cc/4ykjZw2d/Screenshot-2023-11-05-131230.png

Yeah with over 3 million wallets already farming not sure how much we can get from it. Hopefully they implement a robust sybil filter for this one.

Airdrop criteria are getting harder. It was easy for arbitrage, Optimism and many others. It has to be done to eliminate all of those airdrop farmers who use 100 accounts to farm the airdrop. I even saw a group of people who were farming the airdrop in an official building where 100 users could continuously interact with the blockchain. Is it really worth it to take that speculative measure? So many people are doing these so if the project starts giving all of them free token the token price will be worthless, and if they give only a few then most of the users will be angry because most of the farmers spend a lot of gas to get that airdrop.

It's worth it that's why they do it. Not all projects give airdrop but the ones that do, make sybil's day. I read an article [1] yesterday, 40% airdrop receivers of Celestia's $TIA were airdrop farmers. I believe the statement because farmers must have collected their TIA received in multiple wallets to one before selling.

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[1] https://cryptorank.io/news/feed/98c7c-28-92m-celestias-tia-airdrop-claimed-by-sybil-airdrop-hunters

^  I heard the MEME airdrop had one guy earning around 200k.  Not sure if he was alone or if it was a group in a boiler room but that's the rumor.


They'll prolly 'try' to filter it like crazy but I don't think they'll catch them all.  I think some of the botters that have made higher volume especially in Stargate will prolly go through.  I can only hope that I got in too and get some of that free maniiieess!  Now's the time to have some extra dough to buy into alts while everybody is busy getting into BTC and the other majors.

Thats right mate everyone is hoping for one too. But maybe will get some even though the farmers at layerzero are too huge. They should really filter bots or sybil here to protect real users.

Btw guys have you seen this? Not sure if this is a layerzero related case but it seems it is.

https://twitter.com/binance/status/1721513080100622756?t=Z4CvsASO8LyRpMgt3lQmPA&s=19

https://twitter.com/leshka_eth/status/1721522053851893837?t=D5I7vQCNYkOREQ5oFrzNdA&s=19

Speculations but cant seem to be ignore especially layerzero is quite noisy now.

As the airdrop from the Arbitrum care about the active participants and they I think have restricted more users due to their Sybil which is I think a good idea in all aspects. Because only the users which are trusted that should be rewarded in this system. Also, I can say that Zksync, Layerzero would also follow that, the CEO of the Layer Zero said it, but I don't think they will do it, they just said it and don't think will apply against it.

Same in the case with the Scroll, and many more airdrops which are trending now, but they all should take care of the Sybil through which only the users which works hard and work for the project would be rewarded, not all the users which just sending funds to other wallet and use it to get the airdrops. Which is not a wise solution for the airdrops participants to join it like this.

Probably an announcement regarding a new service that will come to the binance app. I have seen many people are also commenting into the symbel that has been mentioned in that trailer as well. Some said it was related to the layer zero airdrop but there are others said that if that is related to the announcement from saga or etc. There have been many speculations regarding this but it seems like that is related to the something like a new card that may be announced by binance maybe.

It's so disgusting to see how lazer zero's community channel being attacked by so many airdrop hunters by saying "WEN AIRDROP SER?".

These hunters were flooding the channel. I don't even think if it's related to the layer zero. My feels said that's related to the a new product from binance.

Sybils do more than that or they learned to when projects started rejecting such addresses (ex, Hop protocol). Anyhow, this doesn't affect much since one can use exchanges, bridges to withdraw from, just requires little more effort than usual.

Some people in the comments seem to be saying that it's Stargate related.  But dunno.  I guess, maybe?  Lol.  

If it's really anything related to Layer Zero then maybe it's gonna be Binance getting onboard and be omnichain.  The easier to do some shenanigans with if rumors about Binance were true.  :D :D  Not that worried tho...  A lot were said about Bitfinex too and it's still alive.

Anyway what if Layer Zero wants to use Binance as a sort of filter for their airdrop to fight botting.  I guess the only way to fight cheats is to get the airdrop KYC'd.

Yes and its quite noisy already everything is related now to layerzero. Probably it will drop on the least expected date. But Im also curious if the Binance announcement is somehow related or just a new product that binance will launch.

Thats a great idea btw. Also its not impossible especially when they are invested also on layerzero.

If the upcoming event had something to do with L0, then it would be logical for the event to be announced on LayerZero social pages or at the very least it could have been announced by Bryan Pellegrino, but not CZ. So the announcement of some new product from Binance will be more obvious, and most likely it will be associated with the issue of the card, since the service of the Viza cryptocurrency card is terminated by the exchange on December 15, 2023.

This turned out to be the announcement for Binance's own Web3 wallet https://twitter.com/binance/status/1722154485928317010. So not related to LayerZero at all :D

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Anyway, update regarding the SSL certificates, seems LayerZero team is denying the rumor. Their CEO said that they weren't the ones who initiated the SSL cert registration. Screenshots here https://twitter.com/KashKysh/status/1721874133305184531

^  But how does something like that happen if it's from their own domain?  Something doesn't smell right here.  I mean they could be trying to cover their tracks.  But then again why would they lie about it.

But the good thing tho is he didn't say that the airdrop wasn't happening.  ;)

Anyway another thing that could be used as a filter for the airdrop is it could be a requirement to have staked STG at some date.  So yeah...  If so, I guess I'm out.  Lol.

Yeah so that was a rumor of rumor. I thought were gonna have some party again due to layerzero hype. Means the farming continue and go back to normal voluming. Anyway I think its better to leave it out for while and dont think too much of it and focus on some grinding instead. Surely they will launch this year as per screenshots of latest series of their investment which indicated a potential q4 launch of 2023.

Does anyone know for certain if the snapshot has been taken? I'm contemplating getting active with Layerzero usage but there's plenty speculations that the snapshot might probably been taking already. We saw the same with Celestia that took snapshot around January '23 but only announced the airdrop in September - October? I haven't been active for a while on L0 but don't want to miss out either.

No one would know. But if I were to guess, it's taken.

^  Yup...  And if you have any decent volume using Layer Zero bridges and protocols, I think doing any more activity looking like you're farming would only hurt your chances.  Just use it when you really need to use it and leave it to the airdrop gods if you got in or not.

Anyway, I haven't seen it yet but somebody told me that OKX tweeted something and it looks like it's something to do with Layer Zero.  After the Binance one, these mofos are prolly just taking advantage of the fact that a lot of folks in CT are waiting for the airdrop?  :/

This tweet yeah? https://twitter.com/CC2Ventures/status/1722820021640937562

Agree LOL this whole LayerZero prediction starting to give conspiracy theory vibes in it. Also good for farming engagement I guess. But anyway I wouldn't complain either if they really did it sooner. The current trend makes it a perfect time to do an airdrop.

Most airdrop threads on Twitter are for engagement farming, and tend to have less actual substance

Such speculations are probably good to entertain yourself, but are such waste of time if you think about it. Just follow official handle, it'll come when it's meant to.

^  It has come to that.  Before seemed like there was real interest to know when the airdrop would be.  Now it's just like you said.

But what does everybody really think...  Will there be an airdrop coming before the year ends or is it more likely to happen next year?


^  Lmaooo!  Yup that must be it.  I really didn't have any interest of scouring CT and look for it.  But yeah, just by looking at it, if not for the black and white, it looks like Curve Finance to me.  :D

Many people got hyped about this, and it was obvious from the get go that it would not be all that easy decision, it has to be something that will change on the long run. I think it needs to be something that will change one way or another, and this looks like a bigger deal than people end up doing.

I think it has to be something that needs to change eventually, which is not looking like it would be something that we could profit from. I get that it is not a simple thing, and I get that it may not be all that confusing, but as long as this type of thing exists, we are going to end up getting hurt. People should stop getting hyped about things that do not deserve getting hyped, and that is the only way that we could get better about this, that should always be the most important part. I believe that we are not going to end up with a greater return one way or another, and by the looks of it we are talking about something that could change it all that much.

What decision? To get hyped? It's all about willingness. There are really people who can easily believe on something which are also too good to be true. Well that was their life. We can't do much about it/them. They should change it if they want a better life. It can be hard at first, but we can soon get used to it.

We should only think that they are far better things or activities out there that we can do which can guarantee us a profit. Emotions like this (hype) are always there. We can not stop them, but like I said earlier, we can do something to ignore them and that must be the time that we will never get hurt again badly, because it's still possible to get hurt in other things but that may not be brutal as the other.

Wdym too good to be true?  You guys saying that there's def no chance Layer Zero is gonna push through with the airdrop?  What the both of you are saying make no sense.  It's like you're clueless on what's going on.  Lol.  I mean I get it, the devs could do the SUI route but because of how unpopular that decision was, I think the guys at Layer Zero will just go with the good ole classic airdrop.

It's just a question of when and how to filter out the botters and the cheats.  We'll prolly see it before the year ends.  I hope I get in.  *crosses fingers*  ;D

There are many ways to get airdrops from various potential airdrops on Twitter, but rarely do people know how to make potential projects visible. one of them is not knowing about keyword searches, for me this is important. and for me the scope of airdrop information or about crytpo twitter is my main mainstay

Any news from Layer Zero or from this supposed airdrop?  Seems like the interest for it has waned.  Lol.  Not one mention of it in my TL.  :D  Airdrop hunters prolly have accepted that there isn't one happening this year or what?  And the longer the LZ devs wait, the narrower their window of opportunity gets.  As I said to a prior post, if they get the timing wrong like the Arbitrum devs did, they'll have an underperforming token.  And what's worse for ARB is there's a huge unlock on March 16, 2024 worth a tad over 1 billion USD at current price...  :/

That's gonna hurt the price big time.

I hope you do not mean airdrops and tags around this word cause there is plenty garbage when you go through this keyword. I'd rather follow genuine airdrop hunters like olimpio who has track record of posting good stuff.

What's valuable eventually finds it's way here and to every airdrop channel anyway.

As there are many genuine channel on the YouTube which also have more knowledge about the Airdrops I'm also following them and most of them have given users a lot of benefits as you have already seen them many times may be. But they are legit and they mostly shares legit airdrops through which I have seen that users have earn more than 100k$ from even a single Airdrop.

So, they are also have some talks about the layer zero that it can be more than the Arbitrum Airdrop and that seems to be a huge Airdrop that we have never received in the life before. But the CEO of Layer Zero didn't even talk about the Airdrop and they didn't even share the information about their airdrop whether they are giving the airdrop or not but we should assume for better.

This is precisely the reason why I don't expect much from Layerzero airdrop, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.


If they don't do airdrop many are going to be disappointed and you'll see their Twitter bombarded with 'no airdrop, no community' and similar responses.

Any update on Layer Zero's airdrop?  My wallet needs replenishing.  Lolol.  I made a couple of dumb moves making two stupid 'investments' in these memecoins called MSTR and WEB.  Whatever you guys do, stay away from these memecoins that create a narrative based on a bigger memecoin.  Like for MSTR, it's trying to appeal to the memecoin $BITCOIN aka Saylor meta.  While WEB is trying to appeal to GROK aka Elon meta.  But the market seems to be not buying into it and it's staying with the leaders.  :/  Now I'm waiting for these two little sh*ts to pump so I could get out at break even...  If I'm lucky.  :D :D

Grok itself is still cheap, why go for replica? Regarding Layerzero, I hope there is something about it by end of this month. I mean, this is perfect time to launch.

If LayerZero don't, I'm hoping something else would appear and end this year on a good note  :D

^  Yeah...  I was putting too much stock on the low market cap and was chasing that 1000x for bragging rights.  Lolol.  I should've just followed where all the volume was going and it's in GROK and the next pump will be in GROK.

So I guess since the PEPE ''devs' fumbled the ball, the next huge memes will be $BITCOIN and GROK.  Elon Meta is not one to be ignored.  

And I think if Layer Zero isn't airdropping by the end of the year, they're prolly doing it around April - May.  Perfect timing for the halving pump.

Today, the LayerZero team officially confirmed the fact that the token will be - https://twitter.com/layerzero_labs/status/1732862812710449466 "Its distribution is something we’re committed to getting right and expect it to happen within the first half of 2024". Of course, the "first half of 2024" sounds a little blurry, but nevertheless we can pre-order our favorite car, focusing on this period.

I have seen that too but has snapshoot already taken? This is become the main concern. I have been consistently brigding through layer zero but i don't know whether snapshoot has taken or not. According from the CEO on the telegram if the snapshoot potentiall has not yet been taken. That's amazing there will be so many airdrops to happen in 2024.

I can name these airdrop

Kamino
Blast
Layerzero

What's next?

My friend got more than 20k Jito. Im feeling so badly caused by i was not eligible for that. I hope my effort for layerzero will pay off.

Finally some announcement [1] from LayerZero, they probably sensed activity drying up. Token confirmed, to be launched in q1 of next year, the way it's worded airdrop seems confirmed too.

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[1] https://twitter.com/LayerZero_Labs/status/1732862812710449466

^  I think it's prolly more like they were finalizing the airdrop list and prolly removing the botters.  The snapshot could've already happened a couple months ago too then when they were confident enough with their list, they made the announcement and confirmed that it's coming.  So it's prolly useless to farm now.

Damn...  I'm feeling less and less confident in my eligibility now.  I haven't really used any LZ protocol for months.  And the one that I mostly did use is just Stargate.  :/

Oh and my WEB bag is pumping!  A guy had access to Grok and asked it about Web.  There's really a project from x.ai called Web and it's going to compete against Google.

I think that the team will make an announcement about the date of the snapshoot shortly before TGE, otherwise everyone will stop being active in anticipation of the airdrop. After all, no one will conduct such a number of useless transfers among various blockchains if there is no reward for it.

I believe this is one of the much awaited airdrops in the space and I believe a lot of people must have farmed it, no matter how creative the may think they want to screen out these Sybil attacks some will still escape, I just hope it is well distributed airdrops just to encourage the community to stay. I think this is another Billion Dollars project

I just saw the news today that there is a confirmed airdrop for the ZRO token. It will be within the first half of 2024 which means there is still a lot of time before the distribution. I don't think they have taken the snapshot yet but the way airdrop farmers were speculating for this airdrop many people already think this airdrop won't be profitable like OP and ARB. Now after this news more people will join and those who were already doing farming will increase their efforts to farm with more money.

certainly after some massive airdrop like OP and ARB it definitely gonna increase the participant of the retroactive airdrop afterwards by significant amount, this ZRO airdrop im not expecting much, maybe it will be a good reward but not that massive. as you said, the address interacted with the layerzero dapps are astonishingly high I guess the cycle is always like that, good airdrop with relatively low participant creating fuss because the reward is massive, then people will all follow the same path trying out the same thing but with different project, no significant reward are given out due to the many participants that surpassed the expectation, then the airdrop eventually getting abandoned again until there are some random airdrop that have massive rewards then people will come again. but certainly if we have free time and dont mind spending little bit of money for interacting with smart contract I guess that won't be a problem.

You are right, they can't ofc say in public that snapshot has been taken as it'll dry up the activity, but I'm sure has been taken, they wouldn't wanna do unnecessary effort filtering out sybils when they can snapshot early and filter most of them automatically.

 

I think snapshot is already taken.  They wouldn't have confirmed and announced that they're having the airdrop at the first 6 months of 2024 if they haven't.  It's now just a matter if removing sybils from the list and figuring out which wallets gets how much.  A balanced distribution is what makes the tokens have sustainable value once listed for trading.  So getting rid of sybils and botters as best as they could is top priority...

I don't think the LZ devs' primary concern is everybody getting less active.  Lol.

I'm thinking airdrop happens around March or April.

I dont think snapshot already taken airdrop will be on 1st half of 2024 so most probably they are preparing for a snapshot, my guess is January 2024, so if you still want to join in one of the biggest airdrop in crypto history then you still have time, I have seen some possible criteria and one of this is to atleast make 30+ transactions on layer0.

Well, that's just a guess. And if the picture has not been taken yet and you stop being active, then you deprive yourself of the opportunity to receive airdrop. I think that we need to continue to show minimal activity until it is officially announced that the snapshoot has been taken.

You are saying right. We have to do transaction once in a week to show the active wallet. But I can't understand how layerzero will distribute the tokens. Are they distribute coins on the basics of number of transactions.
There are 4millions wallet that did transactions through layerzero. This is a very huge amount. Did they give airdrop to all users?.
Or just for the limited people's.

Sure, I get that.  But in my case I use Layer Zero based protocols because I need to, not because I'm farming for the airdrop.  I'm not sure about this but I think the Layer Zero devs have learned from other airdrops and wisened up to remove botters and sybils as best as they could.  And I think they're still prolly sifting through the list right now which could last a couple of months more before they're ready to airdrop.

So yeah, my guess is the snapshot was taken right before they made the announcement and they are now in the process of removing botters and cheats.

The number of transactions will not be the only criterion for receiving airdrop. In addition, the number of interactions with various contracts, the volume, the date of the first transaction, and others will matter. And in each of these criteria, a minimum value will be set, which will eventually limit the amount of eligible receive airdrop.

that could be, but we don't know for sure, I guess with the fact that there are so many people that do use their platform, they'd indeed make some eligibility even harder and will only qualify few hundred thousand address but if the teams care about decentralizing the holder of their token, they might just go on and make every of those 5 millions address eligible and just go with it doesn't matter whether the reward would be low their platform is still being used widely anyway since the utility is strong in itself.
but all these are just speculation, the devs are usually having some obscure requirement by the end of the event and we might not be surprised considering such thing already been pulled off by many devs in the past, I guess this layerzero is not an exception.

Of course, you can trust your intuition, but I prefer to trust the words of Bryan Pellegrino, who is the Co-Founder and CEO of LayerZero Labs, published in the official chat: "There will be public comms if there is a snapshot or anything of the sort no need to guess, comms will be clear" - https://t.me/c/1540062342/84652 So it's too early to stop)

I'd like that if they don't try so hard to filter sybils (which will also exclude many of genuine wallets). History has shown that whenever the project was miserable with their airdrop, it didn't turned out well for project. Examples; PSP, SEI.


Indeed, I'm expecting obscure requirement that we haven't seen before.

Can't access the message.  When was that posted?  After or before they made the announcement?  If it was after the announcement then the snap shot hasn't been taken yet.  But if it's before and especially months before then dunno...  With all the sybil and the botting going on it's prolly best for them not to share any info.  But then again it could be good for them too cos if Pellegrino says that the snap shot was already taken, all the farming stops and they mark those 'active' wallets that suddenly stopped being active.  Lawl.

To read this message, you need to be a member of the official LayerZero chat or join it - https://t.me/joinchat/VcqxYkStIDsyN2Rh
Bryan Pellegrino posted this message as a response to the discussion that arose after the publication of the LayerZero message on Twitter on December 7.

this just opens up chance for those that haven't interacted with the project itself to get the airdrop, wonder how many address will suddenly appear after this message coming from the CEO himself i'm sure many people are worked up to get that share of the airdrops.
but considering that there are so many participants already since fundamentally speaking this project is truly have an utility and it seemed many people has purely use this project for this utility alone im guessing there'll be so many address qualified and this token will definitely have massive market capitalization.


if the obscure requirement is the thing we haven't seen before, it might cause fewer address to be eligible after all, most of the many strange requirement already being used.
I think the requirement will just be like earlier airdrops basically interacting with smart contract.

I am still of the opinion that Layerzero wouldn't confirm about snapshot, just because it'll dry up the activity to larger extent if they would confirm the same. I know starknet confirmed that their snapshot was taken, but farmers of LZ are more than starknet, LZ would try to continue milking them.

Let's wait until official airdrop announcements comes and tells us when snapshot was actually taken, and we'll see truth of Bryan's statement.

^  But then again, didn't Pellegrino confirm a day later Layer Zero's announcement that the snapshot has not happened yet?  I guess that does encourage the botters to go keep on botting LZ protocols as the devs confirmed that there's going to be an airdrop but snapshot hasn't happened yet.  Lol.

Anyway, again...  I hope I get in but looking at how airdrops have gotten so competitive, I'm not too hopeful about this one anymore.  It'd be a bonus for me.  I got some decent volume in tho.

Yea, it's been massively saturated that I don't expect much either. It's going to be challenge for devs to filter out genuine wallets as well, whatever they do good sybils will get in anyway.

^  Hey libert19...  As I was staking TIA, ATOM and OSMO to increase my chances for eligibility for future Cosmos based projects' airdrops, Layer Zero's airdrop and staking STG got me thinking.  Do you think that it's already too late to stake STG?  Like do you think the Layer Zero devs have already made the snapshot by now?

Not sure why I didn't do it last year.  :/  It's taking things for granted and laziness that get the better of me again.  Lol.

Anyway yeah...  Hope I'm not too late as I just staked STG just now.

What do I know? It's good to do everything that you think will make you eligible for airdrop, I tell you I don't follow my own advise at times, laziness gets better of me too.

Imo, unless the team has explicitly confirmed that a snapshot has been taken (like Starknet did) , everything is pretty much in the wild. I staked STG a long time again but I started providing liquidity on Stargate just today. Layerzero announced that the TGE launch and distribution is happening in the first part of 2024. We are still 5 months away from the first half so anything is still possible. It's better to fulfill all righteousness and do the needful than to assume.

Layerzero daily transaction volume suddenly down when airdrop news not announced on time and Warmhole bridge raised fund. Currently warmhole is going to be a good competitor of Layerzero and we should not miss any bot as we don't know which project will gives us more profit. I am farming Layerzero airdrop for more than six months but doesn't provide liquidity yet. so far I used 10+ bridges, swapped tokens and made more than 3k$ volume but didn't provided liquidity yet. what do you think liquidity will be one criteria for airdrop?

This can be because of airdrop farmers changing their activity in other chains. Right now an airdrop craze is going on and most of the projects or ecosystems are taking the initiative to do airdrop on their project to increase volume. Airdrop farmer is also a reason zksync and some other layer 2 didn't do any airdrops yet had huge transaction volumes. I think some people predict that the snapshot has been taken for layer zero airdrop and they stop farming those projects.

Good call!  I'll LP some tokens in the protocol as it could help with increasing the chance for eligibility...  Sigh, so yeah I think I got everything covered.  I used bridges, mostly Stargate Finance, and have more than 10k USD of volume, staked STG and I will have a stake in their LP.

All we could do now is cross our fingers and hope for the best!  GL everybody.  May we get some replenishments and live another day to be degens.  :D :D :D

The criteria for airdrop recipients from the Layerzero project are kept very secret, usually projects that hide information will be better compared to airdrops that spread information. because the allocation makes it more certain for wallets that interact with us who control it manually. Hype projects that hold airdrops without this information is very difficult

You're right on track and based on what you've said so far, you've even done more volume than I have. You should also try to get your # of transactions to at least 50 plus usage of 5 - 10 source chains. I saw a Dune analytics dashboard where only 11% of all Layerzero users have 50+ transactions. That means only ~400K of the 3.5M active Layerzero user wallets actually have a minimum of 50 transactions.

Since Layerzero looks heavily diluted, they might raised the requirements just as Jito had a cut off. Btw, once I get my hands on the dune dashboard again, I'll send here.

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Is anyone here actively using the Merkly checker too for L0?

Reference link: https://checker.merkly.com/layerzero

^  Pretty sure all wallets that haven't reached some level of volume will be out...  Some that have could be checked if they're active enough in other aspects like staking STG and LP'ing in Stargate which is Layer Zero's baby.  The devs at Layer Zero Labs built it afaik.

But yeah, I think I have all my bases covered now.  Got the volume, the staking and the LP down.  All I could do now is wait and hope for the best.

I think everyone is still speculating about Layerzero's airdrop, because of the big fund raise, everyone is hoping for an airdrop from Layerzero.
just like big projects like zksync which are still waiting for airdrop rumors, I myself have tried to use the ecosystem on their network.

The way Layerzero is massively farmed, I feel they will invent some new method to filter out sybils, and we we'll only know that when they publish the criteria, or if they go with something generic farmers gonna receive peanuts. I drift towards former more tho.

Also I feel, Layerzero is farming the farmers.

I did not know about Sybils, what is this exactly?

And how Sybils filter can affect airdrop farmers?

I see people have to make on chain transactions so if their total volume of swapping and on chain transaction count and maybe other critieria meets, they can be eligible for airdrops.

Airdrop farmers and Sybils mean same thing.

Good news as Layer0, already done snapshot last May 1, Congrats to all eligible next month another worthy airdrop after Arbitrum.

So a guy like me who uses just one wallet isn't an airdrop farmer?  And I'm not kidding.  I use just one wallet and have never tried to game these airdrops.  If I did, I would've gotten way more in Arbitrum and Wormhole airdrops.

I consider myself an airdrop farmer but not a sybil.  The correct definition of the word sybil is when someone creates multiple identities to attack a target.  In the case of airdrop farming, it's creating multiple identities to get more than your fair share from the airdrop.

https://twitter.com/PrimordialAA/status/1790033102837797069
"Up to 100,000 self reported Sybil addresses"