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Title: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: cafter on July 29, 2023, 09:40:55 AM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: _act_ on July 29, 2023, 09:43:26 AM
Theymos will request for it if moderator is needed. They get paid.

who pays to mods and how much they earn?
These questions are not necessary.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Nwada001 on July 29, 2023, 09:52:10 AM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?

All staff get paid, but how much is something you should not worry yourself about. But why all this question? Do you want to be a moderator? I see all this survey you are doing is unnecessary, and I doubt any moderator will come here and give you an answer to those questions.
 
The forum admin Theymos selects moderators based on boards he knows they are best suited for. I don't know how it's done, but for the local boards, I think the moderator must be from the local area in order for them to understand what's going on there and know what they are moderating.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: cafter on July 29, 2023, 09:59:17 AM
just for general forum knowledge.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: PX-Z on July 29, 2023, 10:00:54 AM
As far as i remember[1] staffs/mods get selected through their number of good reports, knowledge, of course, how you understand the forum's rules and policies, but that was before. I don't know now and if rank matter, maybe trust as well.

For the payment, i remember[2] some mods mentioned it that it depends on the number of handled report, and some stuff. Here's the financial details[3] of this forum way back 2018.
Well, let me find those threads.

Edit: added url source.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.0
[2] cant find it yet lol
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659454.msg51952928#msg51952928


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: rat03gopoh on July 29, 2023, 10:04:56 AM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board?
I think they're appointed independently, but for local staff usually theymos first ask the local community to suggest candidates who then hold a vote to determine 1 or more users.


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do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?
At every forum ad space auction event in the past, theymos mentioned that in the first paragraph. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920291.msg10110267#msg10110267

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About 25% of ad income goes to the forum moderators as thanks for all of their work. (There are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees.)


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: knowngunman on July 29, 2023, 10:32:40 AM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?

Souds like someone who's interested in moderation job but I don't think you stand a chance to become one for now. Trust matters when such position is involved. You shouldn't expect the forum to be pilot under the care of someone with questionable trust or into the hands of new account who knows nothing about the forum works and the principles guiding it privacy.

Concerning their payment, you are asking irrelevant questions. Even the civil servants do not entertain questions about their earning because it's like an invasion of privacy. The amount they earn as moderators is personal and the forum has made it clear that they should be seen as volunteers who wish to sacrifice for the forum willingly not like Forum employees.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: LoyceMobile on July 29, 2023, 10:35:50 AM
Mods have a Bitcoin address in their profile. The blockchain is public, you can look it up.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Asiska02 on July 29, 2023, 11:38:03 AM
Mods have a Bitcoin address in their profile. The blockchain is public, you can look it up.

He might still not get the answer to his question. Even if the blockchain is public, he can’t tell whose funds received by the moderators is that of the one they’re paid by the forum for their moderation work. If he’s not also knowledgeable about the blockchain system, he’ll need someone to explain that for him too.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Welsh on July 29, 2023, 01:05:13 PM
Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year,  but yeah on a serious note theymos selects moderators based on whether the forum requires one. Obviously, frequent reporters will be on top of that list, but ultimately theymos is the only one who knows all the criteria. I expect, there's quite a few different factors that play into it.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on July 29, 2023, 01:22:16 PM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?
Certainly, the forum interface for mods is the same as it's to the general registered members; only that the mods have access to more features we don't have. I write from experience as a mod in one forum that has now gone defunct. The method of selection for us in that forum was based on activeness and then those who wanted to moderate indicated interest by saying that on a thread dedicated to such. Qualified members were picked and communicated to.

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do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?
But of course, every labourer deserves their wages. Just like I was paid on that forum, I know mods here too are paid. The only difference would be that I was paid with a shit token created by that said forum while mods here are paid with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: hugeblack on July 29, 2023, 01:28:42 PM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

For many years I wanted to know what the account would look like when you are a mod. I haven't found any screenshot yet, but it seems that the situation is not much different because when I had the ability to add members to my whitelist, all I got was whitelist bottom at the  of each account.

There is a hidden board that only admins/mods can access and the ability to delete some posts based on board, that's almost the only difference.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: LoyceV on July 29, 2023, 01:38:04 PM
Even if the blockchain is public, he can’t tell whose funds received by the moderators is that of the one they’re paid by the forum for their moderation work.
Just look for the one transaction that pays to different addresses. If they're all owned by Mods, it's likely you found a forum payment.

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If he’s not also knowledgeable about the blockchain system, he’ll need someone to explain that for him too.
If that's the case, he should learn how Bitcoin works before worrying about Mod payments ;)

For many years I wanted to know what the account would look like when you are a mod. I haven't found any screenshot yet, but it seems that the situation is not much different because when I had the ability to add members to my whitelist, all I got was whitelist bottom at the  of each account.
If you create a self-moderated thread, you'll get "delete" button on every post. I assume Mods have that button on every board they manage, and I also assume they have a "Nuke" or "ban" button on profiles they're allowed to ban. As far as I know, Newbies can be Nuked by more Mods than more established members.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: jokers10 on July 29, 2023, 01:46:29 PM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board? what mod does when they become mod and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

For many years I wanted to know what the account would look like when you are a mod. I haven't found any screenshot yet, but it seems that the situation is not much different because when I had the ability to add members to my whitelist, all I got was whitelist bottom at the  of each account.

There is a hidden board that only admins/mods can access and the ability to delete some posts based on board, that's almost the only difference.

That's right, there are some additional buttons which allow to work with posts and topics and some additional pages which allow to do some other things like reacting on reports, managing groups, banning, etc. Depending on rights of exact mod group on an exact forum. I'm not a mod in here but I've seen different mod interfaces on different forums including based on SMF.

But main things are the same. Mods are the same users as others, they just have some options of making the place cleaner for everyone.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Halab on July 29, 2023, 01:58:00 PM
Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year,
I was lucky, Theymos made me take an IQ test. Trolls will say I was the only contestant :)

For many years I wanted to know what the account would look like when you are a mod.
OK, I will satisfy your curiosity. Here's what I see from the main page (http://precu.free.fr/BCT/Interface_mod.jpg).
Sorry, you have to zoom in a lot :)


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Little Mouse on July 29, 2023, 02:03:01 PM
Just look for the one transaction that pays to different addresses. If they're all owned by Mods, it's likely you found a forum payment.
I had a look a few months back, just out of curiosity and it didn't seem like a huge payment unless theymos is paying them secretly too lol. I expected mods used to get more than a few thousand dollars per month as the workload should be huge considering all the spam generated in the forum and many other things.

For many years I wanted to know what the account would look like when you are a mod. I haven't found any screenshot yet, but it seems that the situation is not much different because when I had the ability to add members to my whitelist, all I got was whitelist bottom at the  of each account.
Create a forum (https://www.createaforum.com/). This will give you the basic idea. I had the advantage to be a moderator on another forum software, wasn't a mod on SMF until I had to check it out through creating a forum for another purpose lol.

OK, I will satisfy your curiosity. Here's what I see from the main page (http://precu.free.fr/BCT/Interface_mod.jpg).
Sorry, you have to zoom in a lot :)
There's one extra option in the menu, can't see what's that.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: hugeblack on July 29, 2023, 02:36:28 PM
OK, I will satisfy your curiosity. Here's what I see from the main page (http://precu.free.fr/BCT/Interface_mod.jpg).
Sorry, you have to zoom in a lot :)
We have 8 buttons in our list and you have 9 so I suppose the extra is like 'MY MESSAGES' where report notifications go to you.
Below there are 3 hidden boards and one of them appears to be the trash board where deleted threads go.
The other one is for mods and VIP members, and I couldn't read the last one.

Create a forum (https://www.createaforum.com/). This will give you the basic idea. I had the advantage to be a moderator on another forum software, wasn't a mod on SMF until I had to check it out through creating a forum for another purpose lol.
AFAIK, this is a modified version of SMF, so things may be a little different.

As far as I know, Newbies can be Nuked by more Mods than more established members.
This is interesting, I think there are some normal accounts who can Nuked newbies under 30 activity, I'm not sure about that since I'm not very active reporter. only have 426 posts with 98% accuracy.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: LoyceV on July 29, 2023, 03:03:23 PM
I think there are some normal accounts who can Nuked newbies under 30 activity
Correct. Example: MindlessElectron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1136003).


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: tranthidung on July 29, 2023, 03:13:19 PM
I think there are some normal accounts who can Nuked newbies under 30 activity
Correct. Example: MindlessElectron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1136003).
They are called as patrollers if  I am correct.

Also, local mods don't immediately become patrollers. That's a separate thing.

Q: Where can I find all the moderators/staff/administrators?
A: Just go to the Member search page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search)), untick all the boxes and then tick "Search by position". To find all regular moderators like board moderators, local moderators or patrollers (site-wide newbie moderators), search for "Staff" (without the quotation marks). To find all global moderators, search for "Global Moderator". To find all admins, search for "Administrator".

Heh, you could add founder to the list of staff ranks. I have no idea what powers Satoshi's account has, I'd say probably adminstrator priviledges, but I'd imagine that has been changed years ago, since administrator accounts aren't left unattended for long. So I suppose it would be more apt to say Satoshi would have admin powers if they come back.

Admins: can do everything imaginable on the site. They however can't delete their accounts.

Global Moderators: can perma ban, nuke newbies, see and handle reports from all sections, and see reported PMs.

Moderators: can see and handle reports from their sections and nuke newbies

Patrollers: Are essentially Moderators but can only do moderator tasks for newbie members.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: hugeblack on July 29, 2023, 03:20:28 PM
They are called as patrollers if  I am correct.
If this option is available, I would apply. Does anyone know what the criteria are for patrollers? ;D

Sorry we went OFF-TOPIC  :-X :-[


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: tranthidung on July 29, 2023, 03:31:42 PM
If this option is available, I would apply. Does anyone know what the criteria are for patrollers? ;D
I don't know about criteria but if you are a patroller, your task will mainly moderate patrol pages to save your time but you can moderate shitposts from newbies if you see it anywhere.


|Patrol||
|Patrol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol)|Last 200 recent posts (from Newbie accounts)|
|No-bounty patrol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol;nobounty)|Last 200 recent posts (from Newbie accounts (outside bounty threads)|
|No-bounty customized patrol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;boards=1;patrol)|Last 200 recent posts (from Newbie accounts (outside bounty threads) (ex: 1 ~ Bitcoin discussion)|


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Halab on July 29, 2023, 03:51:31 PM
We have 8 buttons in our list and you have 9 so I suppose the extra is like 'MY MESSAGES' where report notifications go to you.
Below there are 3 hidden boards and one of them appears to be the trash board where deleted threads go.
The other one is for mods and VIP members, and I couldn't read the last one.
Correct. You can sleep peacefully now, you know all the secrets of the Bitcointalk homepage :).

If this option is available, I would apply. Does anyone know what the criteria are for patrollers? ;D
I'm not sure if it's a position that is still in use (maybe back when there was the newbie jail, no idea). I'm not a patroller myself (I can moderate newbies by nuking them... it's a bit overkill), but I know that some older mods are patrollers too.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 29, 2023, 03:59:08 PM
Of course, I understand that our forum is democratic, but some questions make me roll my eyes :o :o :o. OP, you know what it's like to look into someone else's pocket, or count other people's money? It's not decent, but what am I talking about? I'm just wondering why all of a sudden you, OP, are worried about this. Why should someone talk about their salaries? In my company, everyone has different salaries, and asking who and how much for their work is considered unethical.
I assume that the admin himself has the right to decide who and when to invite to work as a moderator, and this should not be discussed publicly. But again, what am I talking about? People are insanely curious.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: LoyceV on July 29, 2023, 04:25:27 PM
I understand that our forum is democratic
What makes you think that? :D

Correct. I (and other merit sources) don't always agree with theymos, but I don't believe he wants us to, either. The whole point of the merit system and DT voting is for the community to collectively decide for itself what actions are appropriate, without having to appoint theymos as our benevolent dictator. If theymos has to intervene for every little disagreement, the experiment is a failure.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: cafter on July 29, 2023, 04:33:15 PM
Of course, I understand that our forum is democratic, but some questions make me roll my eyes :o :o :o. OP, you know what it's like to look into someone else's pocket, or count other people's money? It's not decent, but what am I talking about? I'm just wondering why all of a sudden you, OP, are worried about this. Why should someone talk about their salaries? In my company, everyone has different salaries, and asking who and how much for their work is considered unethical.
I assume that the admin himself has the right to decide who and when to invite to work as a moderator, and this should not be discussed publicly. But again, what am I talking about? People are insanely curious.

i am not looking in other's pocket, my main question was to know how the interface of a mod looks like, but i asked some other questions too, which is unknown to me.

this is for general knowledge and to know more about our forum.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 29, 2023, 04:37:26 PM
I understand that our forum is democratic
What makes you think that? :D

Correct. I (and other merit sources) don't always agree with theymos, but I don't believe he wants us to, either. The whole point of the merit system and DT voting is for the community to collectively decide for itself what actions are appropriate, without having to appoint theymos as our benevolent dictator. If theymos has to intervene for every little disagreement, the experiment is a failure.

Seeing such questions, it seems that a person has the right to know everything, even the color of the underpants of some faces. But probably not everyone is so stubborn, and not everyone sticks their nose where they do not need to be.
Although one can guess that there is no smell of democracy here, observing that the last word still remains with the kind dictator.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: ScamViruS on July 29, 2023, 05:11:20 PM
i am not looking in other pocket, my main question was to know how the interface of a mod looks like, but i asked some other questions too, which is unknown to me.

this is for general knowledge and to know more about our forum.
You can ask questions to know about forum, but you have to maintain a limit, it is not polite to look into other people's pockets. There is no need to ask questions like how much money mods earn. No one will stop you if you ask questions, but you should have the thought to ask yourself what questions I am really asking. Your other question is fine anyone can ask this question out of interest, and you already have the appropriate answers from the community.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 29, 2023, 05:58:35 PM
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=925534.0
[2] cant find it yet lol
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2659454.msg51952928#msg51952928
This question has been in my mind for, like, more than 1 or 2 months, just after I joined this platform. And I never tried to find answers because I thought it was none of my business, but I was still excited to know about it. And today I have at least some of my answers. That are Yeah, Moderators do get paid (I thought they might have volunteered for the job for free; yeah, I know these are some childish thoughts). But your provided links also enhanced my knowledge, which I had never thought about before.

Even in 2018 and 2017, the finances of the forum were too high and were being managed perfectly. I wonder why we are not seeing the Finances of years after 2018. Or I am missing them.

Great question, dear OP, and thanks for asking it, as it also covered some of my thoughts.  ;)


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: virasog on July 29, 2023, 07:04:10 PM
You can ask questions to know about forum, but you have to maintain a limit, it is not polite to look into other people's pockets. There is no need to ask questions like how much money mods earn. No one will stop you if you ask questions, but you should have the thought to ask yourself what questions I am really asking. Your other question is fine anyone can ask this question out of interest, and you already have the appropriate answers from the community.

I remember a famous saying that "Do NOT ask a Man his Pay and Women her Age" and i think OP should respect that.  :)


This question has been in my mind for, like, more than 1 or 2 months, just after I joined this platform. And I never tried to find answers because I thought it was none of my business, but I was still excited to know about it. And today I have at least some of my answers. That are Yeah, Moderators do get paid (I thought they might have volunteered for the job for free; yeah, I know these are some childish thoughts). But your provided links also enhanced my knowledge, which I had never thought about before.

Well, it is obvious that moderators get pays as it is a full time job and who has time to do such work without any incentive? Also, there is a difference between doing the job voluntarily without getting paid as you can get relax a bit and doing the same thing with pay as then it becomes a responsibility.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: 348Judah on July 29, 2023, 07:13:38 PM
how anyone can become mod of a specific board?

Anyhow person cannot be a moderator, know this and have peace, you must have proved yourself approved to deserve such a position with what you have rone in the past to the forum's development and what you can offer in the future time to come, there's a lot to be required of you because you have to be an active member with year of accurate understanding of how the forum works, when there's a need for a moderator, the admin will announce it out and those qualified will apply.

what mod does when they become mod

They ban users, delete posts, move topics, lock threads and unban users as the case may be.

and how the interface on this forum look like after becoming mod?

How can i know this when am never a mod, maybe the mods could tive a reply on that

do mod get paid? who pays to mods and how much they earn?

Wait until you become one before you can know how much they get paid and permit me to say this that you're too inquisitive with unnecessary questions.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: EFS on July 29, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
Theymos pick moderators. We get paid but that's not guaranteed, we are volunteers and not employees.

There aren't many moderation tools. I guess they are almost same as any SMF forum as Little Mouse pointed out.

There's a Reports button between Search and Profile on the blue bar.

In the report page there are three options: Handled, Bad Report and Ignore. When we handle a report we press Handled, if it's a bad report we press Bad Report and if we don't want to deal with that report we use Ignore button.

There are Delete and Split Topic options in posts.
Also there are these buttons for us to use under the thread page: move topic  |  remove topic  |  lock topic  |  set topic sticky  |  delete selected

So, nothing really fancy. We have simple yet useful moderation tools.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Adbitco on July 29, 2023, 10:27:39 PM
Does this question really necessary for you as someone who is meant to put effort to understand things that concerning the forum than just being eager to know how much mods are being paid or having to know the interface of the entire forum after becoming mode. Mate common I don't even expect you to start thinking this part of the forum rather devote time to read things that would interest you to give more knowledge about the whole bitcoin concepts than hovering around here seeking for how the mod got their paid.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: nakamura12 on July 29, 2023, 11:48:48 PM
Does this question really necessary for you as someone who is meant to put effort to understand things that concerning the forum than just being eager to know how much mods are being paid or having to know the interface of the entire forum after becoming mode. Mate common I don't even expect you to start thinking this part of the forum rather devote time to read things that would interest you to give more knowledge about the whole bitcoin concepts than hovering around here seeking for how the mod got their paid.
He said it is for general knowledge but I do agree with you that. I don't think it is necessary to know all this and even if OP did know, I don't think he will become a MOD unless theymos selected OP as one of the MODS in this forum but I don't think HE met the criteria needed which OP has not met. It would be better if he locked the thread because he already got his answer especially from a staff member of the forum.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Adbitco on July 30, 2023, 12:00:07 AM
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He said it is for general knowledge but I do agree with you that. I don't think it is necessary to know all this and even if OP did know, I don't think he will become a MOD unless theymos selected OP as one of the MODS in this forum but I don't think HE met the criteria needed which OP has not met. It would be better if he locked the thread because he already got his answer especially from a staff member of the forum.

Sometimes it baffles me seeing members very curious about the mod here if as if they wanna become one of the mod to start moderation over here. As member he is I don't think he should be focusing on that aspect of the forum.. and besides seems like such questions has been asked here if I am not correctly because I have came across a topics that asked about the moderation similar to this post as well.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 30, 2023, 12:00:55 AM
As once explained by Theymos, a Mod job is to be a voluntary job despite the fact that they are getting paid and the Mods are selected in different ways. However, users active users with a good understanding of the forum rules and tons of good reports have a huge chance to be Mod.  

Does this question really necessary for you as someone who is meant to put effort to understand things that concerning the forum than just being eager to know how much mods are being paid or having to know the interface of the entire forum after becoming mode.
Footing the explanation that's later provided by the OP after a user asked her the exact question, I think it's a necessary question cause it will provide users who are unaware of how the Moderator aspect of this forum is done, and from understanding this will also add to the effort of understanding things concern the forum.

Mate common I don't even expect you to start thinking this part of the forum rather devote time to read things that would interest you to give more knowledge about the whole bitcoin concepts than hovering around here seeking for how the mod got their paid.
You have a point about the OP devoting her time to learning more about the Bitcoin concept but she seems to be currently devoted to the concept of the forum and if she wants to enjoy her stay here this is the right thing to do.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: cafter on July 30, 2023, 07:45:50 AM
by knowing these things, we can respect our mods and staff members how hard they work, and how the forum would look like.. without them, by spam posts, scammer users, etc.
this questions are out of curiosity and to know mod side of simple machines forum.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: SamReomo on July 30, 2023, 08:15:02 AM
by knowing these things, we can respect our mods and staff members how hard they work, and how the forum would look like.. without them, by spam posts, scammer users, etc.
this questions are out of curiosity and to know mod side of simple machines forum.

That's very true the mods and staff members work really hard to make the forum reliable for us. Combating of spam requires great depth of knowledge and understanding which our mods have in their skillset. They often try to look for the possible ways to reduce the spam and useless posts that could disturb the members of the forum. I'm very thankful to our mods and staff members for doing their job in the most effect way, and only because of them we are able to use this forum without any worries.

Our mods and staff has shown that they read the forum just like us, and we should be thankful to them because many of them participated in this thread and have shared their generosity to us. I don't know how much they earn, and I really don't wanna know that, but the amount of work they do to make this forum working in the best condition is enough for us to give them respect. I must say that our mods are doing their best to make this forum smooth and clear from spamming threads and they are also doing a lot to ban all those users who tend to post plagiarized content.

Finally, it's our responsibility to support our mods and staff members by reporting all those threads that can disrupt the good state of our forum, the posts that we must report should be the ones like spam posts, plagiarized content, and all those useless threads that won't help the users of the forum. It's our responsibility to perform our duties so that the mods and staff members can perform their duty, and we all members and the staff members and mods make up this community, and we should treat it as our second home.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on July 30, 2023, 01:07:44 PM
I'm not sure if it's a position that is still in use (maybe back when there was the newbie jail, no idea). I'm not a patroller myself (I can moderate newbies by nuking them... it's a bit overkill), but I know that some older mods are patrollers too.

I was not aware that moderators do not have also the privileges of patrollers. So Do I understand well? Mods can not moderate reports made for Newbies one by one unless they have patroller privileges? If this is so, then mods can moderate one by one only reports made for ranks >= Jr. Member?

At same time, I had the impression that patrollers can moderate also the reports for Jr. Members. Are they only limited to Newbie rank?



Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year
I was lucky, Theymos made me take an IQ test. Trolls will say I was the only contestant :)

Somehow this reminded me of this picture:

https://i.ibb.co/CnCp7HP/2-Trees.jpg


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Faisal2202 on July 30, 2023, 06:23:28 PM
Well, it is obvious that moderators get pays as it is a full time job and who has time to do such work without any incentive? Also, there is a difference between doing the job voluntarily without getting paid as you can get relax a bit and doing the same thing with pay as then it becomes a responsibility.
You are right, because the work of moderators is definitely not a easy one, so why would they not want to get paid for doing hard work. Even if they start to work voluntarily still they might not make up time to moderate things here on BTT. Because that way it will not be there responsibility and i know that. As, i have also faced such situations.

That's why i put the statement in my reply that, its an childish thought, but i always wanted to know how much a moderator might be getting paid. Maybe one day i would also apply to become one.   


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: skarais on July 30, 2023, 07:17:32 PM
by knowing these things, we can respect our mods and staff members how hard they work, and how the forum would look like.. without them, by spam posts, scammer users, etc.
this questions are out of curiosity and to know mod side of simple machines forum.
I can even appreciate all mod and respect to all of them as much as I can even though I never know how they do their moderation tasks on a daily basis. Regardless of whether mods get paid or not, I definitely respect their moderation work without exception.

So far I've never asked any mods how much time they spend each day moderating forum and activities of users, but either way I know they have a responsibility that deserves to be respected. They're not robots that can work 24/7, so it's always possible for about some things not as the user wants.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: Halab on July 30, 2023, 07:33:04 PM
I was not aware that moderators do not have also the privileges of patrollers. So Do I understand well? Mods can not moderate reports made for Newbies one by one unless they have patroller privileges? If this is so, then mods can moderate one by one only reports made for ranks >= Jr. Member?

Mods operate on the sections for which they are responsible, regardless of the ranks of the members posting in these sections.
Patrollers can operate on all newbies, regardless of the sections they post in.

Long story short :
Mods = sections
Patrollers = Newbies



Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 30, 2023, 07:43:16 PM
These questions are not necessary.
Not necessary of course, but I think it's only natural to wonder about how mods are selected and how much they're paid--the latter question isn't anybody's business except the mods' and Theymos's though.

I was just thinking about this very thing in EFS's 10-year celebratory thread:

It's always been somewhat of a mystery to me how one becomes a staff member.  I know reporting is a factor, but I'm not sure what else Theymos looks for.  Eh, just thinking aloud. 

And on that subject, does anyone know who the last moderator to be added was?  The last one I recall was Flying Hellfish (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79608), but he kind of just vanished and after that I don't remember any others being anointed so publicly as he was.


Title: Re: how do mod get selected? do they get paid?
Post by: _BlackStar on July 30, 2023, 09:40:16 PM
And on that subject, does anyone know who the last moderator to be added was?  The last one I recall was Flying Hellfish (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=79608), but he kind of just vanished and after that I don't remember any others being anointed so publicly as he was.
I'm not sure who was last given the task - but based on this watchlist, I think mole0815 was the last.

List of the forum's admins/ global moderators/ staffs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206428.0)

A new moderator for German board is detected. It seems this moderator has given that role very recently. Merit statistics are taken from last Friday data dump from theymos, on 2020w2, 17jan2020 02:33:31 (GMT time)
PositionUsernameDate of registerEarned meritsSent merits
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Staffmole0815 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1424178)12/12/2017892852
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OP I really don't want to know how much moderators get paid for their forum responsibilities in this forum - but I think they do get pay for it. About how someone is chosen to be a mod has been described by Theymos here:

There will only be one moderator.

Report history is the most important consideration for a moderator candidate. Over the forum's many years, relatively "newbie" members with good report histories have consistently done much better as mods than veteran, well-respected members with poor report histories. That said, not all reports are equal, so a simple report count doesn't tell the whole story. Also, in addition to report histories, it's necessary to consider factors such as the ability of the candidate to be neutral, their trustworthiness, etc. It's also nice to choose a moderator who people generally already trust/respect, but sometimes this is outweighed by other factors.

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.