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Dear all,
Here to discuss wagering.
Wagering is an activity to redeem gambling bonuses, increase the rank of your account in a casino and a whole series of other advantages ...
Share your opinion and what are your tips or tricks on this topic

Wagering should never be done looking for the bonuses and other giveaways. Wagering needs to be done gradually connected with your gambling activity. You should not push yourself to wager big so that you can reach the next ranks at the earliest. More you push yourself, more will be the loss. Maybe few gets lucky to reach next ranks in an easier way without losing much. Personally I have experienced the urge we have when we reach 95% and more 5% left to reach the next rank. We need to be very careful during those time.

By "tricks", do you mean something related to ways to achieve it fast? Obviously, bet higher.

By "tips", do you mean what's the best approach?

For me, if it's something related to leveling up an account, just don't push for it aggressively since if plan to play on that site for long, eventually, a certain rank will surely reach. About wagering related to certain bonuses and promotions, users just have to read properly the wagering terms of it in order not to be confused. My tolerance level of accepting wagering requirements should only be a minimum of around x30 and the max cashout allowed should also be decent.

I don't have anything against wagering and the tier system some casinos use as incentive.
Though, I must say that one needs to ignore the bonuses and benefits offered by the casino for those high tiers and leave the total wager to accumulate naturally, eventually the tier will come by its own.

For example, one can wager on Stake, rolling dices and reach the copper tier before one even noticed. Of course, it depends on ones money availability, but it is fairly easy, imo.

As long as one is being responsible with money, there is nothing wrong with enjoying tiers

Dice is a fast way to wager. Everyone has their own strategy, but I like to play x1.06 and on a loss double the bet 4 times for 1 bet. If it wins go back to the base, if it loses double 4 more times. Very risky and I wouldn't do it with large amounts, but you can get some wager built up fast if you keep from getting unlucky.

Mines with 3 mines can be pretty good as well. Usually only pick 1or 2 squares and take the profit.

Many think that to maximize our wagering in for ranking, and if wagering on dice is counted, betting on the highest odds to win is the way to go, it may be a small win but it will give us a series of green during our session, the greatest I had was 100x of my initial bankroll, the only downside is that the bankroll is intended to get depleted.  If a player does not want to get his bankroll depleted if he is skilled in sports betting then there he should focus his bet, some casinos offer multiple x of the bet wagered as points in VIP ranking.

I prefer to have it in my way and go on my phase I don't have many funds to deposit and wager but if you're good you can wager to move to your next rank don't be tempted to get into the next rank because of the many benefits, it's the casinos' way to entice you to play long, and wage more, you will eventually get to the next rank just continue enjoying the game you will find yourself in the next rank.

I used to grind my stats with in-house games like dice, with lowest multiplayer and hit auto play. That used to be good tactic when i not only grinded my rank up, but i managed to mine tokens that paid dividends from casino's revenue. But those days are over and in the end, trying to move up in ranks wasn't any more worth it than mining those tokens by gambling. In the end i ended up getting less back then i was putting in. Which is obvious in hindsight. After that i made it about being fun. Getting bonuses and ranks is a nice plus. What means more is having fun while gambling. Just trying to rank up wasn't that fun for me.

I'd encourage waiting or looking for a promotion before wagering because you'll hit two birds with one stone. Your participation in the promotion already increases your VIP progress, and once you win a prize, it'll help you accelerate the progress even further as you'll have more bankroll to work with.

One of the alternative games for wagering aside from dice is live roulette because Evolution has a roulette game called "La Partage" and in Evolution's roulette, you can bet on both sides (red and black). The big difference in La Partage is getting half of your bet back if it lands on green, so you'll lose less and place more bets compared to playing at the regular roulette table. It's not the best wagering game as dice but, it's still better than most casino games.

Understanding the whole game, consistency matters alot in the space, we place wagers on forthcoming games and having a strong believe that it would work. Wagering should be done according to the gambler's pocket size, not the opposite way round. Everything is going to fall into its proper place with overtime. Gambling is certainly not refreshing; if you do not gamble with prudence, trust me, it will deal with you without reluctance. Ranks are perpetually attainable with adequate prospects; there is no tendency to be nervous, but rather to continue striving for new heights in the system.

If you're a regular gambler I don't think you should mind it that much, eventually you'd reach high ranks as long as you keep playing anyway. If you want to rank up faster, then the natural answer is to wager more money, it's the kind of idea that casinos pur in your head when they implemented such a system anyway. Simple marketing so to speak.

Promotions are in a way, just stroking your FOMO ego,  but in reality, said promotions will definitely happen again in the future. Probably in a different name but most likely still the same thing.

At first I was always eager to meet up with the wagering requirements for some bonuses but after everything I’ll realize that because I was so eager to wager a certain amount my betting became a mess when it comes to the ration of wins to losses I have incurred.

For now what I normally do is to look for a game like mines and bet on a little multipliers like 1.05~7 that way the probability of me losing my money will be very small sometimes I use huge while most of the the time the amount is not that significant but after playing for a couple of hours I’ll realize that my total amount has increased significantly with me still having enough to gamble with unlike when I was desperate to claim the bonuses.

Think about the reason casinos create ranks and bonuses.
Wagering is how the casino makes profit.

--Knight Hider

If you are wagering only to redeem bonuses and increase your rank then it can be very risky. It is always advised to check the t&c before wagering otherwise you might incur a big loss. I always prefer reading the condition before I decided to wager as it gives me clear information about the benefits. Higher rank does provide lucrative promotion but they are always different across casinos. Again it is always good to understand the structure and the benefits before wagering.

Wagering is not how the casino makes money. Not technically anyways. You can wager $100k and break even on your bets and the casdino made $0 from you. Casinos profit by you losing and the only way you can lose is to keep wagering. All games have a house edge and eventually that house edge catches up to a player. They know if you keep playing that eventually you will lose.

For me, these are just marketing or just bonuses from Casinos just to lure more players to play on their platform.
For me, if you are only after bonuses, so make sure to do safe bets just to increase your wager to avoid losing money.
These kinds of bonuses is not really huge for casinos, they are not losing money on these bonuses.

You mean wagering requirements so that you can go on the next rank up so that you will get  some perks like cash back, boost in your bet and others? I don't think there is such a trick on it.

Simply you just have to wager more, or if you can join some tournaments and or competitions, then surely your account will go up and will some advantages. But other than that, I don't think there is such a trick or something that you need. You just need to be consistent on that platform bet and then most likely the rewards will come your way.

This is an interesting topic, as some people don't understand how it works. In this section I've seen people say that with rank up, promotions and giveaways, they beat the House Edge, and nothing could be further from the truth.

If you bet in a casino on a certain modality and there is an HE of 2% and by going up in rank it is reduced by 10%, it is not that you are going to have an EV+ of 8%, the 10% is applied on the 2% advantage that the casino has, so now it will have an HE of 1.8%. VIP ranks, promotions, etc., all they do is reduce the HE, but never bring it to 0, so you are always playing an EV- game.


Indeed.

Yes, it's part of their marketing strategy, so called offering about wagering and then if you met it, you will received something from these casinos. But if you look closely, there's nothing free in there, you still need to bet, used their platforms and then worst, lose a lot of money.

So just play whenever you want, with how much money you can, and not force yourself to deposit for me because you want to hit that wagering requirements and make your account level up an become a VIP. Even on last based casinos, it's hard to achieved being a ViP, unless you really a big whale as has tons of money to burn.

This exactly is how I see it. Bet when you feel like it, to entertain yourself and maybe win some money in that session and not get carried away by the possibility of ranking up or certain bonuses and promotions (with some exceptions), which will only make you bet more, probably with less concentration and with more propensity to do stupid things than if you bet in your usual way when you are not chasing the bonus or ranking up.

I have at least done this 3-4 times at different casinos and it is quite difficult to do unless we are only a few percent away from going to the next level or if we are very active players who regularly play, not just occasional players, so the wager requirements that are carried out to raise the level can be done gradually but surely because there are casinos that only calculate wagering per month and will be reset every new month.
But players shouldn't chase bonuses by wagering because sometimes the bonuses we get are very small and not worth the money we use when chasing these bonuses, it would be better to play normally and according to the limits we usually set in our gambling.

Wagering on high amounts to reach the next rank will also lead to great losses. The bonus to me aren't worth it. Instead it is better that you that you go up gradually. When you set an amount that you will use for your weekly gamble budget,you wouldn't care about moving to the next level fast because it is what you wager that determines that. I also don't see that a gambling responsible because you want to increase your gambling activities with bonuses and the chance of winning, which can lead one to addiction. Gamble with only the amount of money that you can afford to lose and don't think that the more games you play will give you a better chance of winning.

Everytime I claimed a bonus and it has a wagering requirement, what I play is live Baccarat to fulfill the required amount to wager. Though it's rare for me to deposit a money just to take advantage the reward given when you reach a certain amount to wager (or to rank up). Because I often use a small amount when playing.

Hence, even the promotions are attractive and seems easy to fulfill the conditions to become eligible. I'm refraining myself so I won't go beyond my limit on how much is what I can only afford to spend in gambling.

When you want to increase your total wager, obviously you need to play on the game that offer the lowest house edge, lowest risk and quick to play. Those criterias are fit to dice because you can gamble with 1.01x multiplier and set an auto bet, so you don't need to press the spin button by yourself.

However, I don't think it will be profitable since the bonus and VIP advantage reward is lesser than the money you lose during wager session.

A valuable tip about wagering:
When I enter money into a new gambling platform unknown to me, I always strive to pass the KYC immediately, what if I manage to win back the wagering so that I can immediately withdraw money. It's just that in the past Senya already had a sad experience when I didn't do it. It was one of the dishonest poker rooms. I was able to win back the wagering, but when I tried to withdraw the money I earned, I was asked to provide documents for verification. They were referring to the fact that the passport is of poor quality and they have doubts about me. But I've always used this scan!

Been doing this for like a week now trying to reach the Bronze VIP status at Stake.com but everywhere I play I get rekt. I've read some players in the chatroom that the key to achieving it fast is thru a casino game either Dice or Limbo. Put the multiplier at x1.01 then just autobet it for a long time. I don't know, I have not tried it yet. Most of the time I am in Keno with 8 digits or in other Original games simply because I am having fun playing them.

I think the key here is having a deep balance because I tried to bet low budget amount and my whole balance will take 2000 bets before getting rekt. But once the RTP clicks it will try to put you back to where you belong, that's what I had experienced, and sometimes back to green mode.
It will take a lot of time for low-amount bettors but those with deep pockets can reach this easily.

It's nice to be in VIP status but I am not forcing it, instead just enjoy the games even though their just small bets.

This is the critical thing that most people are missing. You can have any budget, but if you put Dice on 1.01x ...it will slowly eat away at those funds, until it reaches zero.

The reward that you get back from the casino, will never be more or even match the amount that you pushed into it.. to reach the next level. I recently leveled up at Stake.com and my Weekly were 50% less... even after wagering the same amount than the Week before.  ::)

I have tried so hard to see how other people with 80 dollars managed to wager 10.000 or more dollars and I could not do it,people that I asked they told me you will find out and I was becoming really angry at the chat there yet yesterday I manage to find which game can keep you playing really long from the slot games as with sport betting you get nothing in the wagering compared to slots.The slot that kept me playing and giving winning spins more often than every other slot from Pragmatic Play is Sweet Bonanza,I played with IDR and played all day yesterday with just 120.000 IDR and the wagering should have been something like 12.000.000 IDR which is somewhat near 1000 dollars with that low amount of 8 dollars (120.000 IDR).

My understanding about the meaning of "wagering" is not as what you write here. Wagering for me is simply our betting activity, it has nothing to do with bonuses because bonuses are just side effect for our wagering activities. You should never wager for bonuses or to rank up account, it will force to wager more which will increase your losing chance and the bonuses you may get is not worth with what you lose.

Sure not  a bad thing to chase after some bonuses by trying to meet the wager requirements and so, but ive always discouraged this, most especially for those who cant control themselves in their gambling activities for some reasons.
Aside the above, wager as i understand it means playing, staking money on bets, casino and slot games, creating an account on casino without wagering nothing simply means that such account is dormant, even if the gambler logs in every day, for casinos that have VIP system, it is only when the gambler start wagering that they begin to upgrade from one VIP level to another, even for casinos that have weekly and monthly bonus systems, it is only when the gambler wagers something that they get to participate in the weekly or monthly bonus sharing system,
SO yeah, wager is a crucial part of every casino and gambling, I don't even know why we are discussing this.

I don't have any tips or tricks on betting because, as far as I do, I don't participate in wagering promos very often. I also don't use too much money to gamble, so I only play with small bets.

It might be interesting to be able to follow bets to redeem gambling bonuses. But it's still hard for me because it requires a lot of money. So instead of using a lot of money to get a bonus, I'd rather ignore it because I think the casino will give me the bonus I can.

To increase the account rank, we can do it by continuing to gamble and it doesn't matter if it takes a long time or a short time, we will surely move up the ranking.

Whenever you think you want to rank in the fastest way that is where things go bad, betting more than you can afford to chase your losses subconsciously you are trying to increase what you wager, just don't think how much you have to wager before you can reach the next rank just go on your own phase, enjoy the game you'll get there eventually, sometimes you don't notice that you achieve the next rank when you are enjoying playing.

Personally, I don't have any tips and tricks, just betting in a trusted place, sometimes looking at the site's reputation information, then making a small initial deposit for testing, activating the bonus for fun, not for money, let alone increasing account rankings with high wagering requirements, becoming a VIP member, although it can generate bonuses every month.

Unfortunately I'm just a small gambler who only gambles with small bets for fun just never thought of trying to beat the casino or gambling platform with our bets in the casino except sports betting may have a better chance of winning, all bets must be made consciously and calculated too that there is a risk of losing when betting, understand how to gamble and understand the system, don't think that what we are betting on will win. that's all as a suggestion don't go too deep  ;)

As a "trick" I mean a smart way for wagering.
Betting High doesnt sound really a trick according my definitivo, unless clarified.
Thanks for your tip.
Yes I am focusing on this. I think its something curious to be discussed bettween fellow gambler.

My tips= have a smart approach on wagering. Doesnt stress to much.
My trick= playing sport match with low odds or just cashout

Every gambler knows what wagering mean is, so maybe the OP just wants something to discuss for a topic we are already familiar of.
From this article -  What are wagering requirements?  (https://www.bonus.com/news/what-are-wagering-requirements/),
" Wagering requirements are often called playthrough requirements or rollover requirements." Rollover is the common term that we can hear from these casinos.
In any case, this requirement is what we need to fulfill in order to make our withdrawal. Otherwise, you need to keep playing up until we suffice such requirement.
However, most of the time, we are busted early and we have no way to reach such requirement. This is why most gamblers are looking for casinos who offer the lowest wagering requirement before withdrawal.

Wagering is a system that is put in place to favour the casino and the regulators and be against the gamblers,  because at the end,  it is the gambler that will be at the receiving end,  is either he loses money trying to meet a wagering requirement or losing trying to increase his wagering number to meet a demand such as trying to cash a bonus as you mentioned.

So wagering per se is most beneficial to the casino and fewer benefits to the gamblers themselves,  but all the same, since the casino is a system,  one needs to properly understand the realistic outcome of this feature and what its benefits are to both the gambler and the casino alike.

If you're playing for fun the wagering requirement before you can withdraw after you deposited really doesn't matter but if you want to make money and cash it out you need to full fill the wagering requirement and sometimes you lose what you've won in the early rounds before you can fulfill that requirement, happened to me many times so its preferable to always check the wagering requirement because it something you will deal along the way. 

Wagering is a trap that a lot of gamblers are falling into. There's really no better way to lose your money other than chasing the wagering requirements for a certain bonus. Since you have that wagering requirements in mind, you would want to do everything to hit that and sometimes, you'll do that by betting in huge sums to hit it way faster. Even at 98% chance and a max bet, there's still a huge possibility to lose that bet and all your money just because you want to reach the requirements fairly easily.

Wagering? On the time that you do make out some activity on your bankroll or gambling account balance then this would count already on your wagered amount and of course it would really be just normal for a business to have that kind of approach on making those kind of level up or VIP or bonuses kind of benefits with having that more wagering requirement. On a business like this then it would be normal that they would really be going after on higher numbers which the higher the wager the higher the level you would get and in speaking about bonuses then you would be able to make withdrawal on the time that you do able to reach out such threshold.
But for me it would really be that much better if you dont make yourself get stressed on the time that you do play and reaching out something because it would really be just making you that minding most of the time
about reaching those and it would really be removing the real essence of playing gambling for fun because you are already get stressed.

I think you shouldn't bet big to increase your rank hoping to get bonus. We know that many gifts and bonuses await a gambler when he can upgrade his account to VIP level. But many times it is seen that people bet their big money and later lose the bet without winning which they lose the entire money. So it is not advisable to bet large amounts of money to get such gifts or bonuses as it is likely to face a lot of losses. If you want to change the rank of your account to the VIP level by gambling, bet with the amount now so that you can gradually increase your rank. Also if you gamble with more money then you can lose very few people can win more money they are mostly lucky people. So you should never bet big amount of money to increase your rank, bet with small amount so that you can gradually increase the rank of your account and later get bonuses and gifts from there.

So you want tips and tricks to wager money at casinos and increase your rank? All this for what? Just these penny monthly and daily bonuses? I would say this is really a useless deal where you have to wager more than 5 Bitcoins and will get 0.2$ per day on average. If I were a regular gambler then I would have concentrated only on winning the matches where I bet on. Wagering has lot of risks, so in order to gain certain rank or level at a casino, it is not wise to put a lot of money in risks.

Wagering on games and making money does not always go as planned; there are several obstacles that might derail our plans and make us feel inferior in the system. We gamble with money we can afford to lose, and there is no limit to what we may achieve through gambling as long as we remain consistent in our other pursuits. Wagering on games is not a competition; the competition is within yourself to be better than you are now. The goal is to shoot higher in space, with no room for hesitant activities and an open mind to welcome innovations.

Without reading the terms and conditions and going chasing the bonus through wagering is a big trap. Almost everyone who has greed in their mind would fall for it and the casinos would make a good profit out of it. The Casinos are here to make a profit and these are nothing but marketing strategies that they employ to get new customers. Almost every day they come out with a new offer and if you skip the t&c part you would certainly fall for the trap. You are absolutely correct wagering on games does not always go as planned.

When it comes to bonuses I think they are great way for casinos to attract new customers. In most cases casinos offer welcome bonuses for gambler when they make their first deposit, any later deposits are usually not part of a bonus scheme. Which makes it important to think about the bonus before starting to play at a new casino. I made the mistake in the past where I only deposited 20 USD at website to check it out and wasted my bonus. This doesn't mean we should only focus on a bonus when choosing a new casino. It's a nice addition to our gambling balance, but shouldn't be our main concern. Over the last 2-3 years my experience with bonuses have been quite positive and I am gald that we still opportunities today. Especially in poker where I got some free tournament dollars, I managed to win of the tournaments and got a 70 USD boost to my bankroll. For me anything free is a welcomed addition that helps to grow my gambling balance. As for casino ranks I am less concerned with them, because they usually require a constant amount of gambling per week to not drop in rank again. People that are gambling regularly at one casino will probably get a lot of advantages of a VIP rank, but I like to switch around between different games and don't have time every week to play a lot. As long as reaching a certain rank is not your motivation in gambling I don' think there is anything wrong with it.   

Wager - risk (a sum of money or valued item) against someone else's on the basis of the outcome of an unpredictable event; bet.

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If someone is risking 100K to get the perks of $100 then it is the most stupid investment idea so no one should be betting with the intention of climbing the ranks on a casino, it should be an actual growth when the person is capable of risking such big amount to lose then they are rewarded with some.

Extra perks on casinos is existing to increase the engagement just like what we see in physical casino but the only difference is the perks.

I have never tried to redeem a gambling bonus because I know that each gambling bonus has a wagering requirement. And often, to get the gambling bonus, it has very high wagering requirements that I can't afford to meet. Rather than using more money just to make up for gambling bonuses, it's better for me to play gambling as usual without thinking about gambling bonuses. I thought that if I was lucky, I could also win some money. So I don't need to try it and advise people not to try it if they can't afford to see the loss that can come to make up for that gambling bonus.

When aiming to increase your total wager, it's essential to choose games with the lowest house edge, minimal risk, and quick gameplay. Dice games often fit these criteria as they offer a 1.01x multiplier, and you can use the auto bet feature to save time!!!
Betting should be seen as a form of entertainment, and it's essential not to get overly fixated on chasing bonuses, promotions, or ranking up. Instead, enjoy the gambling experience, place bets when you feel like it, and maintain your usual betting approach. This way, you'll be more focused, less likely to make impulsive decisions, and have a better chance of enjoying your sessions while potentially winning some money along the way. Remember, responsible gambling is key to having a positive and enjoyable betting experience.

Technically speaking, be it a considered safe bet or not, it really depends on;

- how lucky we are
- the bet amount
- bankroll size

Smart way? Maybe I should say don't make random high-stake bets, especially in luck-based games e.g. dice, slots, roulettes, etc. While staking high is the only way to reach wagered requirements much quicker, not properly managing the bankroll here will result in a sudden bust. Referring to sports betting, don't jump to other leagues without any knowledge and just be on our usual and typical sports bettor.

Betting high doesn't mean in an instant and technically that's the faster way to hit the wager. On the other hand, smart wagering I guess, is the way a gambler would hit wagering requirements withiut losing that much  which is more likely slowly but sure bets or just minimize losses. Perhaps you bet huge and happened to lose it  but on the other hand you hit the wager. Would you be happy? Mist of the time bonuses and rewards from doing so are not even half of what you have engaged in games which is why I am not a fan of following such things whenever I am playing. If there's other way for that "trick" for sure gambling sites won't allow it for wagering, to be taken advantage by players.

I am just going with the flow and not that much to think of bonuses although they're great incentives whenever your rank is higher. That's why I don't focus on it that much and just bet on those games that I'd love to bet, win or lose. It's sort of an attractive goal to get on when there are interesting perks that a certain account and wager promos are being offered. But it doesn't enticed me and I only bet on some events that I'd love to so it's not putting any pressure on me.

I figured that in most casinos the wagering bonuses don't amount to the amount of money that you'd put out just to level your account and reach the bonus requirements. And unless it's under time constraints I wouldn't really go so far as to waste a lot of money in one go just so I can reach it immediately when I can take my time and enjoy every gambling session and eventually get the wagering requirements anyway. In my opinion casinos that does this while putting pressure on the gambler to spend more is a little exploitative and must be investigated cause at the end of the day you don't gamble out here for the wager, you gamble because you wanted to have fun while spending money, if it came to a point that you're only gambling so you can reach wagering requirements then I say you're either addicted or fucked in the head, either way you need serious help.

Wagering smart would really be that recommendable but its not actually that you would be able to do so specially if you are dealing with a luck based games which results are really that random or would really be basically be highly be dependent with your luck itself and not with some strategy and we do know on how it do works. When you do deal up with dice or crash or roulette then it would really be just that understandable that reaching out those wagering requirements would really be that just that fast basing up on the base bet that you had put out. If you are doing with those low odds or having those higher chances of winning on each roll
then you can but on the other hand you are really that making things way more longer but still on a single loss you would really be able to lose up tons on which does means that it would be pointless.
Ive known some gamblers who do make out wager on one time period and even going that all in and if they would be able to win then they could get out and make withdrawal but if not then
it would really be a disaster on which this is really that a common situation.

Wagering or speculations isn't really done to claim bonuses of whatever you may think of... Afterall you'll need to fund Your wallet before anything - you're not gonna telme that some casinos have bonuses that are bigger than your initials - ain't no way!
Making speculations would possibly be seen as a kinda "TRICKERY" anyways since it involves getting MASTERY innit. Definitely, several gamblers would sure have thier ways of combination in Thier daily speculations and that's left for them to list out... Maybe some may prefer staking on smaller odds more frequently.

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Well for me, in my experience, one helpful tip when it comes to wagering is to carefully read and understand the terms and conditions attached to any bonuses or promotions. This ensures that we meet the wagering requirements effectively and avoid any potential pitfalls.
Another useful tip is to set a budget and stick to it while wagering. It is important to gamble responsibly and avoid chasing losses, as this can lead to unnecessary risks. Some players prefer to focus on games with a higher Return to Player (RTP) percentage to increase their chances of winning during wagering. Researching the odds and choosing games strategically can be advantageous.
However, everyone's experience with wagering can differ, so I am excited to hear other valuable tips and tricks from fellow participants. Let us keep this conversation going and share our knowledge to make our gambling experiences even more enjoyable and rewarding.

I saw a lot in one of the most reputable sites; aside from winning, their major priority is wagering, achieving the minimum to receive rain so that their wagering activity can continue. I believe their major goal is to obtain the bonus with each level up. It's a substantial money. It's the contrary for me; I don't care about the wager as long as I hit my minimum winning amount.

I'm not a fan of any kind of wagering.

I've just signed up on a new betting site a few months ago, I didn't take advantage of the deposit bonus primarily because of this wagering requirement. It had a x5 wagering requirement. I don't care about it. I don't want to chase it.

There is also this wagering contest. I'm not a fan of it either. It's designed to make you compete against each other as to who has the biggest amount wagered. It's basically just pushing you to bet more.

I also don't care much about my rank. The more you care about it, the more you wager because that's the way to get there.

In other words, this wagering feature or promo or contest is primarily designed to increase the revenue of the casino or betting site. More than anything else, it's for them to make more money. What you get in exchange are more less just baits.

I think you are miss understanding. There has two type gambling
- Chasing win
- Chasing waggering

@OP asking about chasing wagering, and chasing wagering is indeed for looking a bonus especially for (Drop, Weekly, and other bonuses while the rules need a wagering).
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For @OP, if you looking at how the method wagering search on youtube.

Keep in mind, you can't do both (win and wagering). If you chasing wagering, you should expect to loose because the house edge. Example:
-100$ you are waggering you will lost around 1-2$ according to the house edge.

That's why, you can't do both (win and waggering).

It's nice if your gambling activity is organic. What I mean is that the bonuses or whatever the gambling site may offer on their promotions should not be the priority. Personally, I would go for the win; that's my first priority. As we continue to chase wins, our gambling activity will naturally increase, and that can result in higher wagers, making us eligible for bonuses.

The purpose of bonuses is to encourage gamblers to gamble more, but as a gambler, I only stick to a gambling site that has good support and maintains its reputation. So, I don't mind bonuses, as they will just come after my focus on winning.

But don't just look for the win because it's not easy. Many have proven it. They chased the winning but it turned out they lost. But maybe it's worth the gambling activity that can increase with the time they gamble. And even if they lose, it can add to his gambling activities so that he can slowly increase his ranking in the casino.

Trying to catch a bonus can also be done but we must remember that there are wagering requirements that we meet, where the wagering requirements will vary in amount. We don't always need to chase those bonuses, especially if the wagering requirements are too high to meet.

And I agree to always stick to trusted casinos so we won't have any problems. And while we are slowly increasing our rankings, we can also enjoy gambling as entertainment.

Correct.
Someone told me the same thing when I was trying to wager my funds just to reach the VIP rank. Don't force it, and don't rush it, because it will come, for now, try to win as much as you can and use that to wager. Just repeat the cycle and you will just be surprised you are already near that goal. And, he also told me how much money he is being given thru the VIP rank, it's not really that much when you consider how much you will lose if you will just focus on wagering.
Enjoy it, and try to win against the house. This is why I have not tried the tips given to me about wagering yet because I know there's no excitement to that and you won't have the chance to win a high amount.
x1.01 multiplier in auto mode is just letting the bot do the work without even enjoying a chance for a jackpot.

One of the most important things every gambler must do before signing up in an online casino is to meticulously read their terms and conditions. They should target only casinos whose wagering requirements is low so as to be able to maximize their benefits. Initially, this was the error I used to commit, I would think that because an online casino has many bonus and promotion offers I can just sign up and then withdrawal the bonus amount but I was wrong. The wagering required that I fulfill some steps before I withdraw the bonus. Well, I learned through a friend how the wagering requirement works through betting on some specific games particularly slots to clear the rollover.

- betandbeat.com/bonuses/wagering-requirements/
- www.pokernews.com/casino/wagering-requirements-guide-beginners.htm
- casinobonusarena.com/casino/gunsbet-casino-review-bonus-offer/

That depends on the casino you're playing at because not all of them give out pennies worth of monthly rewards. If you're receiving small amounts after a lot of wagering, then you need to move to another casino because there better casinos out there that distribute the rewards you should be getting.

Wagering only becomes risky if the casino doesn't have the best games for wagering like dice or roulette. The risky part IMO is the bonuses given out by the casinos because they don't mention the estimated amount you could be getting after reaching a certain rank.

Actually I will not suggest anyone to wager merely for bonuses or any other perks provided by the casino.
We always need to have in our mindset that the bonuses wont be really worth with the risk of money you need to spend.
Do not wager for bonuses, but wager to play normally and let the bonuses come as a side bonus.
However if you want a tips or tricks, most people will play with 1% HE games such as dice with the highest winning chance.

Wagering helps keep a gambler on a site for a long time. and the bonus issue is also a great strategy to retain gamblers.  So we don't face wagering only for bonus purposes. this is a great strategy of gambling sites and there is a rank or leader board option to create a competition among gamblers. So if you want to gamble for a short period of time and don't want to get addicted to gambling then start gambling with small amount of funds and take gambling only as fun rather than following Wagering requirement

Exactly, The amount of money being loss on the House edge is much higher to the potential rakeback or other casino bonuses therefore it’s really useless to wager for the purpose of claiming the bonus. I once done this to claim a high percentage rakeback but the end result is devastating because I loss all my bankroll in the process while I only get few dollars for the bonus.

It’s very hard to maintain a cool headed gambling experience especially if you don’t have a hoal aside from claiming bonuses on your wager.

Just be wise in playing, don't be too aggressive to get victory and stay calm so that your finances can be controlled.

If our focus shifts from the beginning just for pleasure to victory then it's clear that the loss is right in front of our eyes. When playing too aggressively, this can often cause our finances to go awry and become irregular, which initially determines the deposit amount every day because you are too chasing wins and bonuses that can allow you to continue playing and increase the deposit limit in each game without you realizing it.

and in the end this will only lead to disappointment in yourself. And the tip is don't play alone, look for someone who can accompany you while playing so that someone will make you aware when playing too aggressively.

       -      Almost all casinos here in crypto implement wagering on their gamblers or players, and this is also their basis to rank-up the level of a gambler's account. That's why just to upgrade your account at a casino will take a lot of time before it can be achieved.

Is it not possible to reduce the wagering amount a little to promote the account of a gamer so that at least the gamblers will have more appetite to bet or play in your casino platforms. Maybe in this way you will make more money and you will be considered a gambler when you do this and will not think that you can take advantage of your communities that you are in now.

Mines sounds much better to me than dice with a strategy of doubling the base bet 4 times after a loss since I know how a losing streak of only 5 to 6 bets can exhaust the entire bankroll instead of building up the wagering level of your account. When playing Mines with only 2 mines with the minimum allowed bet, and redeeming profits after just a single box, you will have less stress of losing because it is not very difficult to open a single box or maybe a couple.

I'm personally not a fan of chasing wagering activities only to get my account level up because that would make me stressful and I wouldn't be able to enjoy my gambling sessions, so I usually let it happen naturally when I gamble instead of trying ways to complete levels and stuff.

There are no tricks or tips in my opinion, as long as you have money to keep betting then it will increase your bet and the bonus will be even higher, plus if the betting activity is large and every day then the potential offer from the casino will be even more calculated. But that's all according to what I know during gambling, maybe even if there are tricks or tips, at least add more gamblers via the invite link, that can also be one of the supporting factors in increasing bonuses.

This is its main meaning and those stuffs mentioned by the OP are indeed just an addition to it. There are even sites who doesn't offer any of those but surprisingly I spend a long time on them. I guess that is because they have a jackpot and others who have different perks doesn't have it.

It depends on the players. Like it or not there will always be who will wager to rank up their accounts and claim the bonuses that entails on them. You can see most of them in Stake casino. What's funny is they are always complaining that they got a low bonus. For me, I never prioritize it but I only got motivated of doing so, once I noticed that I'm very close on hitting the VIP or its other levels.

This conversation reminds me a certain type of gambler whose objective is to take advantage of casino bonuses as much as possible, gambling the minimum. It is more common to see in brick-n-mortar casinos, rather than in online casinos, since the latter have better mechanisms to monitor the wager of each one of the users registered.

It is something like, to slowly wager 20$, to get the casino to give you up to 22$ dollars in liquor, for example.
It sounds profitable, but it is not actually, since there is much time needed to be invested in trying to fool a casino, it simply does not happen.

For sports betting, are you also going to do this?
It's ridiculous if you bet on sports matches you don't use analysis or tricks in making betting predictions because it's impossible for you to risk money carelessly, even if you have large amounts of money if you bet randomly without using analysis or tricks to make predictions then the chances of winning it will only be in vain and of course all the money you have will only be lost.
If this is done to catch up on account rankings to get bonuses then it won't be because you are chasing bonuses with many losses while the bonus amount is far below the amount of money you lost.

 According to the Oxford dictionary to wager means risk (a sum of money or valued item) against someone else's on the basis of the outcome of an unpredictable event or an act of betting a sum of money on the outcome of an unpredictable even, so in my understanding, as far as your involve in any gambling activity that involves staking money you've definitely wagered.
 However some casinos platforms have come up with a wagering system whereby customers have to wager some certain amount of their money to redeem rewards and gambling bonuses offered to them, these are some tricks they play to earn more money because when you wager some money to play games and redeem those rewards the platform gains more when you lose and sometimes you might want to continue betting to recover those loses and lose more, I don't find his interesting because I feel the gambling platforms are benefiting more from this wagering system than the bettors,  why is it called a reward or bonus when one would still deposit a certain amount to be able to claim it.

For those who do make out some sports betting without having that actual knowledge into it then they would really be just simply sticking with the money line or with the highly favorite since there would really be two options
for you to choose on on whose gonna be the winner but if you would really be going after with other options then you might be able to do so which it would be of course will really be requiring out that kind of knowledge on which it is really that something you would really be needing to when we do make out some dealing with sports betting but for luck based types of games then it would be entirely different if we do speak about wagering but in the whole idea on how things should really be handled out on speaking about wagering options then it would really be just on different idea. Bonuses about being VIP arent really that totally advantageous at all on which this had been just simply a lure for gamblers trying out to reach out those levels via wagering on which it would really be making you somewhat having that interest which would poke out on the time that you do
see those numbers or benefits but if you are really just that sensible on what truly it is then for sure you would really be having that kind of awareness on whats the truth about these numbers.
Better not to mind with it because it would really be just making you that desperate on things which is really not that good at all.

The way I see it, the more you wager the greater your chance of losing money is. In other words, the casino wants you to make as many bets as possible, so for the casino it's usually better if you bet 10 times with 1 USD than 1 time with 10 USD, because they have a sure and safe way of making money as long as you keep betting. If you lose $100 in one bet, they make money, but you could've won $100 in that 1 bet and put the casino on the loss. If you bet 100 times with $1 the casino makes some money from every single wager. For this reason they add leveling up and bonuses so that you keep playing, thinking you're being awarded, but you're not.

Wagering are not just about the bonuses but its also tells your activities in a gambling site. Some are doing this to reach the top list and some are just playing their game and have no care about their total wage. Though if you are into gambling you are already expected to wager since its part of gambling transactions. Though if you’re into bonuses, the site will always encourage you to spend more before you finally get the reward.

In sports betting, we really need to have knowledge and strategies in making predictions so that what is at stake is not in vain.
Many people don't understand this even though they are on the other hand chasing VIP rank by betting a lot or depositing money to have bonuses which they feel are very profitable.
But if you chase the account ranking percentage by betting carelessly, that's also the wrong action, it can even make a gambler enter into a trap of destruction due to the losses that always befall.

If you say VIP is profitable or not, you can say it's quite profitable because every gambler can receive a bonus every week or month so they can get a little recovery from the money they lost when betting.
Even though it requires a large amount of money to achieve it, at least after being able to have a high rank, every amount of money that is at stake can be included in the percentage of the size of the bonus amount that is obtained.
After all, not all gamblers can easily rank high gambling accounts.

My opinion doesn't matter,  we all have different experiencesand ideas, either negative or positive, what matters is the benefits we generate from the space whenever we gamble. It's a long proceeds to entangle without scouting out the risks management involved. Wagering is the process of placing your placing your predictions on a game, either sports or casinos, and they can also be done online, which seems to lesser the stress of going there in person to gamble. The world is advancing and if we're ignorant, we might as well face some difficulty in these gambling systems.

Chasing gambling bonuses is one of the ways that you can lose money faster when gambling that is why I don't engage or try to chase any bonuses from casinos and also I still prefer using my normal weekly amount to take risks with gambling no matter the promises from any online casinos, they can't be trusted always.

I strongly advise against chasing ranks too on any casinos because it is easier for that to get into your head and start doing the opposite of keeping you safe or keeping you in a safe state when gambling.

Winning offers and bonuses from casinos is not that easy like some people are making it look like, many use all they can to get higher ranks but they are still not getting the right result till date, not everyone who ventures on a bonuses and ranks journey will be a winner.

Yes, and that's important to me because I've also always used that method to at least get some wins there. In sports betting, they should be able to use some strategies and knowledge to increase the chances of winning and also increase the ranking of the account as you said. Don't let you bet but the results are in vain, I mean you can't get anything including an increase in the ranking in your account by being beaten there frequently. Basically it's very difficult to increase the rank of the account if we just play without knowing some opportunities that we can do like we are discussing this, I have done it and I hope they know this.


I think it's very beneficial, because if you're already in the VIP rank the weekly and monthly bonuses that we get are pretty decent for me. That's right, it can restore losses from the previous time or we can use it to play again there with new luck. Even I myself often get a win if I use the money from the weekly or monthly bonus and this is indeed quite helpful haha.

Wanted to make a response to this message when I saw it but had another subject to attend too but now there is a brief lull in the sports scene I have a chance to discuss about casino table games.

@ralle14 So this La Partage roulette game you would say gives you a better chance at raising wagering requested amounts needed to fill a requirement than any other table game available?
Had somebody tell me a longtime ago that baccarat had the least amount of loss if you choose both banker and player for a bet. I think I tried it once and lost 10% of my bet each round. So stopped doing that for gaining a higher wagering round.

Yup, in that roulette game, the worst case that can happen in each round is losing half of your bet, but you still need a bit of luck because there are times when the green hits one too many times or only once within the last 200 rounds.

I also had baccarat in mind but it can chunk through your bankroll if the dealer only gives out banker wins most of the time.

Wagering in casinos for the sake of bonuses is indeed, without a doubt, an engaging and sometimes profitable endeavor; it is, after all, an activity. But it can be risky. Tips for wagering? Its not advisable to bet more than you can lose, even though wagering isnt about losing or winning, except when it is. Its wise to read the rules and make sense of them, or not, depending on your understanding of the game.

The rank of your account may or may not improve with wagering. There might be a connection there or there might not be

To be safe, don't force things. Although it's attractive to become a VIP, it requires a huge wagering requirement. But as gamblers, if we enjoy gambling, we will eventually reach that level. It's not as fast as others who really have a lot of money to gamble.

You are right; the key here is to gamble only what you can afford. That will give you the freedom to enjoy. As I mentioned, eventually, our status will become VIP in the long run. Some are too aggressive in reaching that level, but they don't realize the risk of losing more money. It's very basic that every gambler should understand that the house wins in the long run.

The risks will not always be commensurate with the wins we will get because often, the wins will be manageable compared to the money we deposit to the casino. To get this bonus, we are usually required to deposit a certain amount of money and play gambling there, then we can get this bonus. And if we win, we may have to stake a few times before we are allowed to withdraw the winnings. And if the win is a big one, the casino may need to check your account before they process a withdrawal of your winnings. We should first consider whether or not it is appropriate to try to get the bonus and whether we can meet the requirements or not.

I think account levels are beneficial for people who can bet with a lot of money, in the case of sports bettors for example, and they need to keep putting a lot of money into each single bet, only in this way can they reach the wagering requirement to have a high level vip account. but the problem with this is that there are people who aim to reach the highest level of vip account, these people start by betting high amounts of money and are not bothering about hitting the games they bet on, their goal is to reach the requirement of bets for vip account and after some time when they reach that goal they start to slow down the amount they bet on each game

and they are benefiting from the bonus that these high level VIP accounts give, but when the casino reduces the value of the bonus these people start to complain a lot, because it is at this time that they are making calculations of the value that they lost lasting all the time until they reach the highest vip level and the value they are earning with the bonus, and they realize that it did not compensate all the money they spent in the casino and regret and lamentations come, months ago I saw someone who came to this forum complain about a casino because according to with this person, he put a lot of money in the casino, and before the bonus was high, but with the reduction of the bonus amount

he wasn't making gains that made up for it, I was wondering: are people looking at the vip levels as a long term investment? because when I read that post and others that came to talk about the same thing, then I started to see that people are looking at VIP accounts as a long-term investment, unfortunately. People have completely forgotten that playing at the casino is not an investment, it's just fun. I remember that there was a case of a person who said that he lost his VIP account email and password and was complaining that without access to the account he was losing the bonus, but when asked to provide proof that the account belonged to him, he could not answer that

it was clear that he had bought the account, and he insisted that he was losing the bonuses, he even did not accept that as the account was inactive for a long time, he no longer had bonuses to claim. the guy stopped posting, but that led me to conclude that people are spending money to meet the wagering requirements to have vip accounts and others buy accounts because they think this is an investment, unfortunately it is a very wrong thought

It is no longer news to every experienced gambler that bonuses comes with a wager requirement, though it helps discourage gamblers against any thought of abusing the bonus offer, the wager requirement condition simply claiming those bonus a risky venture as well, in the sense that, in the process of wagering to meet the required amount to claim the bonus, if you are not lucky, you might loss money that is even higher than the bonus you are going you claim, and for those who are lucky, the also might win very big amount of money in the process of chasing a bonus, so even claiming a bonus is still another part of gambling altogether, this is why I always advise gamblers to always check every bonus and the wager requirement that goes with it, and make sure its worth chasing, so they don't end up just losing money for nothing.

So before they try to claim the bonus by depositing the amount that the casino has set, they read the terms carefully and they can also make sure by asking the support service so they don't have trouble or run into problems. Most gamblers will deposit some money immediately without reading the wagering requirements because they think the rules will be the same as the previous promotion when it's completely different. And after playing to get a win, that's where the trouble started. According to them, the casino had cheated on its promotion, even though it was the gambler's fault. Do not chase promotional bonuses if it exceeds the budget limit we have than we will encounter difficulties later. Surely later there will be a promotional bonus that suits us so that we can take it without difficulty and make sure to read the rules before taking the bonus.

Tried seeking out that roulette game but to no avail. Which platform is on if you don't mind posting about it on here.
It might actually help somebody who is having a safer way to wager through to their next vip requirement on the site they are using.

Played baccarat yesterday with a small amount and had 4/5 hands ending up in a draw. So it gave back entire wagered amount for those hands.
Alot saver way than dice and crash type casino games even at those 1.01x odd rolls.

Well, that's right, to be honest, I've also experienced something like this, I claimed a bonus because it looked good enough to increase my capital, but the problem was that I didn't understand the Turn Over that I had to achieve. I started playing and when my balance went up I tried to make a withdrawal and sure enough it was complicated, they said that I had not touched the Turn Over limit that I claimed before. In the end, I'm sure all gamblers will experience a problem like this when they decide to claim a bonus there, and not a few also end up experiencing a total defeat, they lose everything, and they are a form of disappointment with the casino itself.
That's right, actually this is purely the fault of the gamblers themselves, if at first they read all the provisions that have been provided then they will be able to make the right decision according to their abilities.

I focus less on wagering and more on the fun but whenever I am into wagering it is mostly for the bonuses and rewards that comes with it.
I know, wagering bonuses can be really tempting but at the same time we have to provide our time and money to fulfill the wagering requirements.
It also happens some times that in the process of wagering we tend to lose all that we have in our account and so we should be cautious while wagering too much.

I don't really get your logic here. How can the casino earn more money if you wager $100 in portions instead of doing it in a single bet? The casino will still get $100 if you are losing all your bets, but the casino would rather earn more if you are wagering it all at once because you will surely win some bets when you are wagering that $100 into $1 bets but if you lose the $100 bet, it's all gone from your account into the bankroll of the casino.

So there is basically no such concept of the casino earning more if you are wagering the money in smaller bets. I understand that they want you to do more wagering and don't stop, but that simply means that they want you to wager more than $100 and not that you wager the same amount in smaller bets.

I'm seeing it the other way around.

Isn't it more reasonable to do some chasing promotional bonuses if lack of budget? There are lots of interesting promotional bonuses around that give up to 150% - 200% deposit bonuses and sometimes there are even added Free Spins on top of those deposits in some cases. Of course, the drawback is, expect that the wagering requirement is challenging at the same time, also expect that the maximum withdrawal allowed on that said promotional bonus does have a limit.

I should say that it's better than nothing compares to playing gambling with a small amount of bankroll.

There are lots of players already who are able to get a good run with that.

It depends on yhe kind of promotions and bonuses that we will be joining and of course, we also have to base and calculate our possible earnings on our budget and be sure that we could reach the wagering requirements because if not, we would really end up chasing these bonuses and promotions.
We still need to grab opportunities based on our capabilities because if not, we will only be wasting our funds and time. Yes, s of people are earning from it but there should also be an assurance that we can always comply with the wagering requirement and the minimum withdrawal requirement.

That's what often happens to us. We are too happy to see the victory we managed to get so we don't read the rules carefully and in the end, we will find that it turns out we have not fulfilled our obligation to be able to withdraw the winning money. I also experienced it and instead of being able to withdraw the winning money, I ended up losing all the money at the gambling table ;D

For this reason, we must check everything before deciding to participate in the promo or bonus so that we are not disappointed later. Most gamblers still forget to read the rules because they think they don't want to miss participating in the promo so they miss the most important part of the rules.

It may make more sense but we have to adjust to our budget. It's not worth trying if our budget is lacking because later, it will be difficult to withdraw the winning money if we win. I'm sure the casino will always provide other interesting promotions and we can look for promotions that are roughly what we can afford and don't burden us in participating. The betting requirements are sometimes very high and difficult for the average gambler to achieve. Still, there are also wagering requirements that are not demanding for many gamblers so that small gamblers like us can participate.

Well, some time ago we had an interesting discussion in the Gosu group... What is the quickest way to wager +1m to get some higher VIP level at Stake, and some minimum amount to start wagering? As I remember we agreed that one shouldn't even start without $10k, and with a lot of luck that can be enough... When it comes to choice of games the in-house games are probably better for wagering.

I don't wager for competitions and all sorts of wagering wars anymore... because the tips and tricks for wagering a lot are to gamble like crazy, and to have the courage to push with all-ins at some moments. That kind of extreme gambling often leads to busting the balance, but it has some good moments and crazy wins as well. In the end, more money can make wagering a bit safer and easier... with less money we need to risk more and that makes wagering a lot harder.

@iv4n What is a gosu group anyways? Did you put together some players specifically from a casino then dedicate to playing on there only?
$10k to start for reaching $1mln in wagering total is a very difficult challenge to do.
I tried $5k and only managed to reach $495k in a month of wagering it was achievable but it required nearly $125k each week for a total wagered amount to be reached.
On their livestream last weekend the owner showed a screen of the client seeds on their dice site and was talking about how somebody managed to some how hack into their seeds.
They managed to guess how many rounds it would take to have a winning seed.
So they would just wager alot when that round occurred. He was shocked that somebody managed to solve it on one of their sites.

I think wagering is just a subtle way for casinos to get back the money that they pay out in rewards. People never wager with 3rd party Slots because the RTP will quickly clean out their balance... but the in-house games with the good RTP are similar to slow boiling a frog in a pot.

Take DICE on Stake.com as an example ... Put it on a 1.0102x Multiplier with a Roll Over of 2 that will give you a Win Chance of 98% .... and then spin say 10 000 x $0.30 bets. (Enable Live Stats and see how slowly it will drain your balance) ......that is wagering and you are slowly boiling like a frog.  ::)

Often, if you only think about making a wager instead of focusing on the game, it usually ends up with you having to keep making up for losses and finally losing. In my opinion, it's better to find a way that will bring you a lot of fun from the game and you won't even notice when you make a really big wager.

Wagering requirements in casinos are designed to provide the house with a greater advantage. However, when it comes to sports betting, I believe it's less of an issue for us bettors. If our primary concern is meeting the wagering requirement, we can easily hedge our bets in other sportsbooks. Additionally, the house edge becomes less relevant as we have numerous options in terms of betting odds in the realm of sports.

If we talk about bets, maybe there are so many tricks and tips that we can do for wins as well as bonuses, levels and so on, such as: increase our bets in daily bets by betting every day and bonuses weekly, monthly and so on.

But for me betting like other people generally do, it seems better for me, rather than having to expect uncertain bonuses, sometimes the bonuses that I get, until they rot there, I forget to bet again.

In my opinion, try to bet professionally to produce good wins, focus and stay professional without expecting bonuses given by the casinos we play at, maybe that's better.

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Some Gosus are Platinum Platinum IV, Platinum V... One Gosu asked how to wager +$1M for Platinum V, the fastest and as cheap as possible. What I wrote is some conclusion from that "degen gamblers discussion" at that moment. Let's not forget that we talk about gambling here, we all depend on luck in the end line... simply said, anything is possible in gambling, and people can wager a lot even with small balances, but for that, we need to be very, very lucky! :)

TBH, I like to bet on roulette but only on my favorite site and also often bet on two sides but after hearing @ralle14 experience about La Partage roulette I wanted to try it and also searched on several sites and found this.
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source (https://www.livecasinocomparer.com/live-casino-games/live-roulette/live-french-roulette/)
according to the article, I learned that La Partage is in French roulette gold and I searched again and found roulette on one of the sites in this forum. but Im not sure if the game is right as @ralle14 said. i hope this is true. because I have not tried it yet.
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I do not recommend anything and anyone to try on this site and I only answer from the questions above.

This strategy is the one that usually being used to suggest others when it comes to a question "how to wager safely".
In fact this strategy is not that effective to be used for wager because a single lose means that we need to have hundreds consequtive wins to recover the lose.
I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x

I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.

As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.

The table I always play is called "Auto Roulette La Partage", but that game you mentioned is fine. The only difference is that French Roulette Gold has a higher minimum of $1 while the table i've mentioned has a lower minimum of $0.2 per bet.

I agree, sometimes you'll get two or three losses in every one hundred rolls and it's why i'd try to increase the multiplier to 1.2x or higher to lessen the rolls needed to recover the incoming loss.

Trying out to catch up that wagering requirement and making use of the lowest base bet then it would really be that less risky comparing on setting out on higher risk or odds on which it is really that possible but something that wont really be able for you to reach the finish line or would be able to hit the threshold and this is why some would really be deciding on going with the slow pace and sticking with base bets which it would really be that a common approach. No matter which angle we are really that looking then it would really be just that normal that wagering requirements would really be that something in default whether on deposit or bonuses then it would really be normal that they would be setting out those limits or wagering.

If it was really that easy for us to hit up those wagering requirement then it would really be just that too easy to get out with the platform and we know that its not something that would be doing good with the business.
It is really just that they would normally be doing things that would really be that on their advantage.

This is one of the strategies that was recommended to me if I want to get to VIP status as fast as I can. But hell no, I'd rather let the RTP decide how it will bring me back to my initial balance while I am pursuing the jackpot prize.
I guess those who had been thinking they will get a lot of money in their VIP ranks totally rushed things out and now those same people are recommending the same. But there are good high-ranking guys that will tell you not to do it and just enjoy the game as much as possible not rush things out because we will get there somehow although it will take time.
With how much they spent wagering is not enough to ROI from all the VIP bonuses and features. So, might as well just keep on pursuing the jackpot while my wagering amount is climbing.

If it were me I'd take the slow grind with small bets than rushing things out to get the bonus but that's just me. I want to get the most experience out of the money that I deposit on the casino instead of getting the bonuses or the tiers, hence why I don't get any rankings of some sort on the casinos that I play on.

I might try to chase bonuses soon, though right now, I know that it will eat a lot of my time.

Don't worry about that. I don't ever bet on sites I am not familiar with and haven't been around for over five years and have not been registered too.
Especially for a casino table game.
It seems this betting strategy can be done on any roulette game just you won't get half your wager back if it lands on the 0 green is all.
So you tried it, and how was your wagering results? How many rolls did it take for you to lose your entire balance?

So the casino games name is Auto Roulette La Partage, and which site was this available on again?
I did a search for it under evolution games on the sites that I am familiar with and to no avail with a result.
Also for the French Roulette option, that is the main reason why I don't play it for the high minimum bet amount of $1 per roll.
I prefer to grind it out for a wagering requirement needed with $0.15-0.25 rolls or lower.

I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

For me there exist not any great casino promotions in wagering like they used to do before.I remember a couple of years ago that even people playing with minimal bet were allowed to take part on such competitions (now I don't know one that allows you to do so) and the tournament was run for 3-7 days and the person with the highest number of bets,irrelevant from the bet amount would be the winner,so people including me have won in such competitions as I always used Play n Go medieval themes slots like Swords and Holy Grail which keeps you playing longer even with low amounts and as such I have been able to be third one time in such wagering competition.

This type of competition is also very beneficial for the casino as a lot of people take place there and only 5-10 people are rewarded with a prize,all others get nothing.

Oh, absolutely! Casinos always have their ways to make the odds work in their favor. That's probably the whole point. Wagering requirements is a clever tactic to keep people playing and hoping for that big win. And you're right, those high-rollers, the whales, they're the ones who can afford to play the game. But the higher the stakes, the higher the risks.

Well, I'll talk about my own thing. It's been a long time since I've sacrificed volume for quality of play when playing poker. In the old days it made more sense because the rakeback programs in many rooms were so good that it was more profitable to be a rakeback player at certain levels in exchange for a certain status than to be a winner at the tables. In other words, it was worth doing a lot of volume, betting a lot more, sacrificing profits at the tables for the rakeback rewards.

But for some time now it just isn't worth it. When I play, I play concentrated, when I'm mentally well, trying to make the moves as EV+ as possible and the rakeback I consider it a complement. I'm not going to play even one more hand to get a certain rakeback because what happens with the current systems is that the most normal thing is that you lose more profits for being more tired or less concentrated than what the rakeback compensates you.

They always profit from these wagering competitions because they encourage the high rollers to start playing again, but i've seen a few who had to take the loss because they weren't popular enough.

I used Livecasino in my last session but it should be available in any casino as long as Evolution is one of their live game providers. If you can't find the game then you might have to navigate through Evolution's games tab by launching any Evolution game, and then click the X (https://i.vgy.me/63XxkE.png) on the upper left corner or the lobby button (https://i.vgy.me/stxMpo.png) in the lower right corner.

Every gambler has their own method and strategy and what they or you do is definitely the most effective even though it has differences from other people and there is often debate about which one is better.
Maybe you use 1.5x-2x and feel it's pretty good and can be relied on but it's different from some people out there including me because in my opinion 1.0102x is no less good and can be used to increase betting statistics regularly depending on how much money have we bet and how many times we spin it.

But thanks for sharing your experience and maybe I'll try it on what you use to be sure or prove which one is better.
After all, all strategies are also not guaranteed, so the courage to try more strategies is good in my opinion because it can provide more and more experience.

Bonus is a part that is always provided by the casino to add excitement to its users. bonuses too, are sometimes helpful for a gambler who has experienced many losses. bonus benefits, clearly enough to give the impression of the gambler himself. casino, always has many features that are definitely always provided for its users.

IMO, for me bonuses are not really an important part even though they actually help a lot, I just prefer to make bets according to what I like. of the many types of casino games available, I tend to bet on football even though I don't use a fixed bankroll. why football, because I really like this one hobby. also, giving a sizable adrenaline when I make a bet. Regarding account rating, it doesn't really matter to me because I'm not trying to increase my account rating. most importantly, I enjoy every betting session that I do regardless of losing or winning.

Exactly. Bonuses are just like that—Bonuses. Nothing more, nothing less. People nowadays think of these extra perks as some sort of right that they must abuse and all that when it's something that the gambling site could take away willy-nilly if they so decide upon it. Some even go so far as to bet extensively just so they can mine the bonuses which is a little counterintuitive and borderline stupid considering that the bonuses aren't even that bombastic to waste money for in the first place.

And there are cases where gambling sites are just outright abusive when it comes to putting out these bonuses, reeling in people with fake bonuses and all that. Which is one of the biggest reasons why you should only deal with reputable casinos like Stake.

It can only be profitable if we are lucky because we can get a double win ( from our main game and then in the bonus ) but we shouldn't have a mindset like this at all times because not all times we are lucky and we can end up returning the money that we win last time, if we haven't spend them all yet. Gambling is a form of activity but only risky as the house has more advantage than us.

Your wagering tip is good but if I can add more, that is play on a very low odd game with a little higher bet. You can't get a nice win in here but it's much faster and safer to wager this way. Wagering can be both for losing and winning. We lose money but at the same time it increase our VIP bar and get an exciting rewards later on.

Wagering is a double edge sword, which tend to work more in the house's favour than in favour of gamblers, because the amount of money you have to spend (and to lose) in order to meet promotions' requirements and to evolve your account is likely to be much superior than the amount of money you will be rewarded from promotions.

Experienced gamblers say we shouldn't persue such bonuses, rather we should let them come in naturally within time, as we play normally. And now I understand they are completely right. After all, wagering can help you to dilute losses, if you are a whale gambler.

On the other hand, for minor casual gamblers, it doesn't make much difference effectively.

Most of the time, your bankroll is already depleted before even you accomplish a quarter of the wagering requirements.
Hence, as you said, don't chase those bonuses or perks rather accept as it goes. Because their conditions are quite difficult to fulfill.
Before you get excited with the rewards attached to your bonuses, read first the terms or requirements, and you would know already the chance of completing it.
This is why I am not also tempted with mouth-watering bonuses, because once you check their terms, you would be disappointed, as if
they don't want you to go home as winner for once. Even 20x wagering requirements sometimes is too hard to achieve, depending on the game that you will play.

In my opinion, bonuses and other goodies are not worth the amounts that you have to wager to get them. Even if you play games where the house edge is minimal (say 1%), it is unlikely that your bonus will be $10 per thousand, but your average loss will be just that. Maybe it makes sense to look for sports betting in different bookmakers, but it's not easy since the bookmaker's advantage is quite large - 4-6%.

Well, with respect to the wager, it's something that I don't like, first because whenever I do that I lose, maybe it's because I don't have enough patience to do things well, if I have patience, but when I know it's to fulfill a a very large-scale objective that tends to stress me out a bit, because if I don't see that I have the results that I'm looking for, that makes me a little bad, what I like is that I can go up a bit in game rank within the casino, but If I see it from a point of view that it is money that I am risking, well, I do not like it much, because internally I tell myself that I am already losing it, little by little but I am losing.

It is clear that there are some casinos that abuse, I know that. If I make a 1x wager that is enough for me, since my way of playing is not so patient, however I know that to play with an associated wager you need patience, you almost need to be very concentrated in the game and Don't put anything else into thinking.

I don't know about you, but I have come across sites where they ask for a 30x wager, and another for 50x, that really is something totally impossible for me to achieve, I couldn't, if I only suffer with 1x and sometimes I don't I did it, I can't imagine doing something like 50x, that's not on my radar as possible, but I've seen that here in the forum there are people who are dedicated to hunting bonuses, and those bonuses they enjoy, and there are some who If they manage to make the most demanding waer, the truth is that for me I admire a lot, and it seems to me that they are players who are on another level, it is that if I played with play money I think it would also stress me out, in fact I would do I do the wagers first in fictitious money mode, because there I apply everything I know, and if I see that something in particular works for me, then I do it, but of course the techniques don't work all the time, but for me when there are enough bonuses What I really do is avoid them and play only with my money without taking bonuses, but because of the experience I have.

It happened to me because I didn't look at the wagering requirements back then and just entered or participated in a promotion. But as soon as I found out there were wagering requirements that I needed to meet and I was far from the minimum, and my bankroll was gone, I couldn't get anything out of the promotion. And it was a lesson for me that I should check the wagering requirements before deciding to participate in the promotion.

And for now, I'm not trying to participate in a promotion because it must be really hard for me. And I prefer to deposit some money and just enjoy gambling. That's more feasible for me because at least, I don't think about anything and just enjoy playing gambling.

Most of the times, the gamblers will not be able to make use of bonus and promotions but instead they would lose more money in order to fulfill the wagering requirements.

Good for those who want to gamble but got some additional money in terms deposit bonus, but not good if any gamblers purposefully deposit more in order to avail that bonus on deposits.

Another aspect is that gambling sites will give deposit bonus on new signup and that is obvious , they want more gamblers to make an account on their site and then deposit too.

This is actually the right mindset- if a person wagers purely in expectancy of achieving bonuses, then most likely the whole experience may be a drag and costly at the same time. But if you leave it as it is and continue to gamble, then you would definitely notice that your account would reach the next tier of rewards/bonuses in the whole process.

I think this kind of perspective is mainly for the people who really like to take advantage of the bonuses/rewards being offered at a casino. If this is what you want to focus, then there are better ways for you to earn and receive such bonuses in different categories without undergoing this hassle.

I think when an account is created on a casino platform, he may not be given any bonus by the casino. But when a person deposits money on the casino platform and when placing a bet, if that bet goes, does he get a bonus from the casino? It is often seen that those who bet more money are given a lot of bonuses or spins if they make a big bet. When an account goes to VIP level it gives a bonus to those VIP accounts, but when a new account wins a bet, why doesn't it give a bonus or Spain to those accounts?

it is the right choice because the promotion always has wagering requirements so why take it even though many casinos give more than 100% welcome promotion bonus and I think newbies might be tempted by the bonuses and promotions that are offered, but for longtime users it might be a promotion and the bonus is just wasted because in the end we will also make a deposit.

Depositing some money for example in less money to play and enjoy the game as a trial will probably be better, as it is not burdened with other wagering requirements, playing for fun and the usual entertainment that I do when trying to play on a new gambling platform to prevent fraud and addicted usually depositing less just for fun never hurts.

This is true. By the way, there is a small paradox here - experienced gamblers are likely to make the necessary wager, but they do not engage in such nonsense (including so as not to annoy the casino by deliberately abusing bonuses). It is the beginners who do this (who have no other ideas and skills), but in the end they simply lose the deposit.

When you create a new account on one of the platforms it's very unlikely to get a bonus, you're just logging in there and haven't participated in anything including depositing money so I think this is one of the reasons. To be honest I also often check my weekly or monthly bonuses, for example when this week I made a deposit to bet and the result lost then next week I will check again there, and on average I will get a rolling bonus, maybe it's part of the bonus from them because in the last week I did a lot of betting there. But for beginner accounts the bonus they get is quite small.
Oh yeah to be honest besides I enjoy every bet on the other hand I also pursue the account level, I aim to upgrade the account to VIP because when I can reach that point then the bonus I get is quite decent there and it can be used at least for a few long rounds without making deposits at certain times.

Also, talking about bonuses and the urge some gamblers feel to reach them is what drives the market of the selling and purchase of accounts with high accumulate wager, which is of course against the rules of most casinos.

Some accounts can be very expensive and the bonuses are not worth such even bigger hassle in the short and mid term, assuming the buyer does not get banned as soon as the casino realizes what is going on.

I have not yet met anyone who have had a good gambling experience while exclusively chasing bonuses, because that is very unlikely to happen, almost as unlikely as hitting the jackpot.

When it comes to wagering,  it all depends on the angle you look at it from and where you decide to pick it from,  because wagering to claim a bonus is like a punishment since it could lead to more losses for the gambler.

But wagering to increase your casino rank,  is a different ball game entirely and this is what we must discuss intensively since it goes in both ways since both lose and winnings are calculated together to make the total wagered amount that qualifies you for ranking in the casino,  it then means accumulating more wagering requirements still leads you to higher chances of increasing your overall wagered amount that aid your next rank,  so in this circumstance claiming bonuses with wagering requirements becomes a plus for the gambler.

I think the casino intentionally does not give a big bonus when normal accounts win these bets and wager a lot as they are already increasing their VIP level and the more they play the faster they will come to the next level of rewards.However this is not true in all casinos,as far as I know in Stake they give the monthly bonus even to non VIP-s recently while the weekly bonus is only to VIP accounts.So even when the new standard account is winning it means that they most probably will playing more and wagering more which in turn will result in them getting faster to the first VIP level and from there on to enjoy the rewards.

For VIP or rank level then it would really be just that a standard because even if you arent aware then its really that default that the more you play whether win or lose, that progress bar would really be counting or increasing

on which for bonuses then it would really be totally different since you would really be needing to comply or reach out that threshold before you could be able to withdraw. Unlike if you dont just activate or simply ignore it then there's no such thing or target that you would be needing to caught up but rather simply with that deposit wagering which it isnt really just that hard to reach out which it is usually playing on x2 on your deposit
which needs to be wagered but for bonuses which this one is s peaking about 30-50x maximum depending on which casino you are dealing off with.

This is why most of the time i dont really have that kind of interest on spending up time or trying to get those bonuses due to horrendous reason or wagering requirement.
This is something that would really be putting yourself on being that desperate on trying to reach that.

The attractive promotions provided by casinos tempt many beginners, and they will always try to follow them without checking the wagering requirements. But once they find out, they feel like they can never get anything out of those casino promotions, and it's discouraging to see how many people have made it. If they never learn from their mistakes, they repeat them repeatedly without getting their bonus.

Anyone, including beginners, can deposit some money to participate in the promotion. Still, they should check the wagering requirements first and ensure they follow them properly. And only take a promotion with low wagering requirements because that will only make things difficult for yourself. And if no promotion yet has wagering requirements that we can, we don't need to join any promotion and just deposit as much money as we can or we are better off not gambling for a while.

Wow! That news about somebody hacking into their seeds and finding out how many rounds it takes for the winning seed to occur is actually alerting. We are going to have a revolution in the name of Artificial Intelligence in the next few decades, and I wonder what they would do with casinos if things like these are possible, they will simply tear them apart if they can hack into the seeds and find out a winning seed to be able to wager big on that round.

The whole community is already optimistic about AIs and their intervention in gambling, and if things like this start to come to the surface, I believe AI models created in the future will surely put casinos out of business since almost everyone will be able to win a lot of profits using AI models.

The casinos might've noticed that the welcome bonuses aren't as good as the VIP rewards. It's reasonable for the casino to reward the gamblers that consistently play in their casino because they're the profit maker of the casino and one of the best ways to make them stay is by giving out rewards. The new gamblers have to prove themselves through wagering and it's risky for the casino to spend a portion of their budget only for the new gamblers when they're not guaranteed to become a regular player later on.

For those users who really don't understand how bonus terms work, they should just ignore those.

It's good that some sites are user-friendly with their respective interface on the deposit section and new users or newbies can easily check if the deposit are bounded with promotion or not. In that way, users can decide if they will push on a normal deposit or participate instead in a bonus.

Around 30x-50x turnover is already usual to see as a wagering requirement for a bonus.

But you know, in some cases, I don't mind dealing with a 30x-50x turnover if there's no maximum winning amount set.

General bonuses and spins aren't dependent on the size of your bet or the amount you've won but they are given to anyone making a deposit that meets the minimum requirement of a promotion, and when you do so, you get a bonus with your deposit. But when you make a deposit that is smaller than the minimum required amount for a certain promotion or bonus, you simply don't get any bonus on top of your deposit and you will need to play without it.

The VIP level does depend on the amount of money that you wager in a certain platform because the more you wager, the higher your xp gets, and with higher xp, you will become more likely to get a VIP status after reaching a certain level of wagering. That is how things work in online gambling.

Depends on the VIP program of the casino actually, because not all VIP programs are the same.
There are some casinos where the VIP status is based on how much you deposit in specific period of time, BK8 and Coinroyale are some of them.
So we cant generalize that wagering to rank up VIP level is the one system in online gambling, but it is obviously the most used system.
However I have to agree that bonuses are not given based on how big our bets/wins unless he is referring to a special promotion.

Casinos are profit-driven companies, not philanthropic organizations that give away free money. Those alluring advertisements? They are traps that entice unsuspecting newcomers with alluring promises only to confront them with impractical wagering requirements afterwards. It irritates me that they take advantage of the ignorant, and it makes me much angrier to watch those newbies be caught repeatedly.

Your suggestions? Right on. Before spending their hard-earned money, players MUST comprehend the wagering conditions. Why invest money in a game that is fixed? It's obvious to stay away if the wagering requirements are too high. You can either bet responsibly or not at all. Otherwise, you're merely a pawn in their elaborate scheme to make money.

Wagering requires money, consequently we must first establish stable sources of income before succumbing to gambling. We make profits and losses, followed by we return to our profession. We should make good use of games, but only if we know exactly what we're getting into. When it comes to gambling, we have different points of view. I've come across proficient gamblers who supply complicated statistics for games, some of them are profitable gamblers while others are addicts. We're left with a plethora of targets to choose from throughout the system.