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Title: found this reading old threads.
Post by: cafter on August 18, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
does bitcointalk previously allow to post without any account? or what is this type of username ("anonymous, guest") with reply?

Click to get redirected to that post! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)

https://i.ibb.co/zQXfwjK/bnjmk.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)


Title: Re: founf this reading old threads.
Post by: Cantsay on August 18, 2023, 03:54:31 PM
I don’t know is if they once allowed guests to post without having to create an account here in the forum, but the threads that I have seen here all belonged to an user here in the forum.

If perhaps, you created a thread and you felt the need to dissociate yourself from the thread or you made a reply to that thread and you don’t want anyone to know that you were the creator of that post you can send a pm to the admin and explain to them why you wan them to dissociate your account from that post.

But the thing is; if your post was ever quite during the time your name was still there, then it will be very easy to spot that you’re the Op of that post. I can’t recall the last thread that was anonymized but you should keep at the back of your mind that requests are not often accepted.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: DdmrDdmr on August 18, 2023, 04:03:19 PM
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Take a look at this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441598.msg61832853#msg61832853). As far as I can tell, those cases are related to "deleted" profiles (by an Admin), where the deletion is not physical, but rather result in the profile being anonymized (whilst preserving the posts).

Not sure if there was a time where one could actually post without creating an account on older SMF versions.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: logfiles on August 18, 2023, 04:10:05 PM
I think back in the day, users would request the admin at that time to delete their accounts, but in order for the posts not get destroyed along so as not to mess up threads. The username of the account would just be renamed as anonymous.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: Nwada001 on August 18, 2023, 04:37:29 PM
From what I can tell, I think the guest attached to such account means that their accounts has been locked or deleted by admins due to some illegal activities found on the accounts. I was able to find some few posts where such users asked for help
 
The anonymous user/account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441598.msg61832853#msg61832853)

This has nothing to do with what the OP asked, as it has already been explained above by other members. If I remember correctly, there was a guy who predicted the value of bitcoin where he or she thought it would be in the next 10 years, which appears to have happened. The OP was Anonymous under it was Guest, so there were times when people were allowed to post without needing an account here on the forum. Link to the post:  I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.0)
I came across the post through this post   12 years of a Legendary post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455167.msg62358692#msg62358692) 


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: skarais on August 18, 2023, 05:05:10 PM
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Take a look at this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441598.msg61832853#msg61832853). As far as I can tell, those cases are related to "deleted" profiles (by an Admin), where the deletion is not physical, but rather result in the profile being anonymized (whilst preserving the posts).
Exactly like that, I agree with you.

Not sure if there was a time where one could actually post without creating an account on older SMF versions.
I've never gotten one and probably don't have one. DdmrDdmr, I'm sure guests can only view and move from thread to another thread to read (reading and enjoying some drama), but they can't post without an account. That makes sense.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: Z_MBFM on August 18, 2023, 05:10:41 PM
does bitcointalk previously allow to post without any account? or what is this type of username ("anonymous, guest") with reply?

Click to get redirected to that post! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)

https://i.ibb.co/zQXfwjK/bnjmk.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)

Check the Bpip (https://bpip.org/) Reposts there are 16,117 profile has been deleted till now, that account one of them. that's why it shows like this. Apart from that you cannot use the active account as an anonymous guest.  Because this forum is decentralized, it is impossible to hide account information here.  You can use an account using a pseudonym, but you cannot prevent all activity on your account from being tracked.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/18/MCT85.jpeg


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: AbuBhakar on August 18, 2023, 05:22:56 PM
does bitcointalk previously allow to post without any account? or what is this type of username ("anonymous, guest") with reply?

Click to get redirected to that post! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)

https://i.ibb.co/zQXfwjK/bnjmk.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737.msg8202#msg8202)

This topic is already discussed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459167.0. Theymos allowed anonymous posting before but through special request only.

I’m not sure on other case of deleted accounts but this anonymous feature really exist on the forum before and probably you can still request it if you really need it.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: 348Judah on August 18, 2023, 05:43:01 PM
Am not too sure but i think a thread like this had been created before whereby the user demanded for the permission to remain anonymous while making a post but i don't think the admin permit for such any longer, the second may also be when the user faces restriction for making any euch alarming post of something of sensitive information, all these are what does not exist any longer but having such anonymous status was once permitted on certain cases but not anymore.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: Little Mouse on August 18, 2023, 06:26:46 PM
Not sure if there was a time where one could actually post without creating an account on older SMF versions.
It was allowed back in the day. SMF had this feature to enable/disable guest posts, not sure if the feature is still there or not. However, although it seems like it was also allowed in Bitcointalk to post as a guest, sometimes, I get confused because, in some of the very old threads, some anonymous were changed into anonymous. They had usernames too. I can't remember if I had read regarding this prior to this post but as dar as I can remember, it was also allowed in Bitcointalk.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: light_warrior on August 18, 2023, 06:34:09 PM
I think back in the day, users would request the admin at that time to delete their accounts, but in order for the posts not get destroyed along so as not to mess up threads. The username of the account would just be renamed as anonymous.

I think you're right. I have found a more or less plausible explanation for the appearance of such users on the forum. I also hold this opinion because I found a post by theymos that confirms what you say.

When both the forum and Bitcoin was still very new, Theymos would sometimes honor requests to delete accounts and when he did this he would change the handle on all the posts they made to "anonymous"

The account that created that post most likely had his account deleted.

And here's what theymos writes

Deleting accounts doesn't mess up any threads, like this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0). It just changes to anonymous, with no profile information. Post stays intact.

As you can see here, I only change the username to "Anonymous" on request.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: FatFork on August 18, 2023, 07:18:23 PM
If I remember correctly, there was a guy who predicted the value of bitcoin where he or she thought it would be in the next 10 years, which appears to have happened. The OP was Anonymous under it was Guest, so there were times when people were allowed to post without needing an account here on the forum. Link to the post:  I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.0)
I came across the post through this post   12 years of a Legendary post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455167.msg62358692#msg62358692) 

The person who started that post wasn't Anonymous when he wrote it. But it seems like he might have talked to the admin later to hide his identity (disassociate the post from his account). You can check out the third post in that conversation, where someone quoted the original poster and his username was still there.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: dzungmobile on August 19, 2023, 03:45:04 AM
does bitcointalk previously allow to post without any account? or what is this type of username ("anonymous, guest") with reply?
Years ago, Bitcointalk allowed users to delete their accounts, change usernames but it did not last long.

Later only Bitcointalk admins, staffs, VIP members and Donators can change their usernames by themselves. Other members will have to open requests to admins and wait for approvals.

  • Username change policy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=33648.msg487059#msg487059)
  • Change username to Anonymous on request (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67541.msg789906#msg789906)

As you can see here, I only change the username to "Anonymous" on request.

It's not possible. Just abandon it.

Done. Now only moderators, Donators, and VIP members can change their names automatically. Other members should contact me. I'll probably ignore your request if you have less than 50 posts (unless your posts are very good).
In the last three years, theymos has been more friendly to change usernames for cases if he sees fit even you did not donate either 10 or 50 BTC and your name is not in Donations (https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html) page and list of VIPs/ Donators.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: aysg76 on August 19, 2023, 06:49:16 AM
I think back in the day, users would request the admin at that time to delete their accounts, but in order for the posts not get destroyed along so as not to mess up threads. The username of the account would just be renamed as anonymous.

I also think mostly this was the case where accounts were deleted due to some reasons but the posts remained there it was visible as guest account to other users as they were kept in the same way so you see guest name on profile but in realistic approach you have to register account on the forum in order to make posts.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: Nwada001 on August 19, 2023, 02:02:22 PM
If I remember correctly, there was a guy who predicted the value of bitcoin where he or she thought it would be in the next 10 years, which appears to have happened. The OP was Anonymous under it was Guest, so there were times when people were allowed to post without needing an account here on the forum. Link to the post:  I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.0)
I came across the post through this post   12 years of a Legendary post  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455167.msg62358692#msg62358692) 

The person who started that post wasn't Anonymous when he wrote it. But it seems like he might have talked to the admin later to hide his identity (disassociate the post from his account). You can check out the third post in that conversation, where someone quoted the original poster and his username was still there.


Yea, I just got that now. As I can read from the comments below yours, I understand how the deletion of profiles happens and all of that, and one of the major reasons why they are being deleted is for security and identity protection. But what's the point of deleting the user's profile if their username can still be visible on the places where they have been quoted before the name was deleted and changed to anonymous? I guess the true purpose is not entirely achieved if their username can still be attached to the post or anything in relation to their identity. It could have been better if the profile was deleted. Even where they are quoted, the names will also appear to be changed to anonymous, although I don't know how possible that can appear to be.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: GeorgeJohn on August 21, 2023, 02:09:37 AM
Op question has been asked, what I want to ask now is that patterns that time is it good or is basically meet for protection compare to the system of forum this present time, because if some can write to admin to delete its name and the name will appear to be Anonymous that means the person at that moment it doesn't have a username, but this current time you can write to the admin to change your name and you replace it with your brand name.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 21, 2023, 02:27:10 AM
The OP was Anonymous under it was Guest, so there were times when people were allowed to post without needing an account here on the forum.
Yep.  The forum was different 13 years ago, even if it's only in subtle ways like this. 

But man, can you imagine if you were allowed to make anonymous posts these days?  This forum would be an absolute flood basin of spam and shitposts--and I'm talking more so than it was prior to the merit system.

Props to OP for reading through old threads; that's something I think people should do more of, because it's almost as good as reading a book on the history of bitcoin.  I've done a lot of reading of threads from the early days, and I accidentally stumbled across the first thread where the concept of a signature campaign was introduced.  Wish I saved the link to it!


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: nakamura12 on August 21, 2023, 07:42:49 PM
There's another case or situation similar to this but instead of deleted accounts it was requested by a forum member to make the OP of the thread Anonymous but no one can request to do the same right away as it depends on theymos' decision if he will make it anonymous or not. Well, there's a lot of difference about thr forum years ago compared to thr forum right now and you can ask the old forum members here that are still active. You can check it in their profile when they registered on the forum.


Title: Re: found this reading old threads.
Post by: logfiles on August 21, 2023, 10:56:06 PM
Op question has been asked, what I want to ask now is that patterns that time is it good or is basically meet for protection compare to the system of forum this present time, because if some can write to admin to delete its name and the name will appear to be Anonymous that means the person at that moment it doesn't have a username, but this current time you can write to the admin to change your name and you replace it with your brand name.
Very rarely will Theymos change one's username to anonymous. In the last close to 6 years I have been here I have seen only one case and in that case the username was only changed to anonymous in that one thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208), else where, the username of the member still shows.

Just changing a username to a new one does not help that much as the quoted texts will still show the old username