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Title: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: KiaKia on August 25, 2023, 03:11:50 PM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 03:38:35 PM
I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: alastantiger on August 25, 2023, 03:47:23 PM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

It is crucial that we start to ask these odd workers or skilled professional. Bitcoin awareness has spread more than we know it and some of these guys just want to experiment with it. Some would even choose to get paid for their services in bitcoin as one of the ways of accumulating bitcoin rather than buying from an exchange. A furniture maker once jokingly requested that I pay for the wooden furniture in bitcoin after he overheard me talk about bitcoin with a friend on the phone. Well, I didn't pay him though. Maybe next time. What we should observe is that bitcoin awareness has travelled far into all walks of life.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: coin-investor on August 25, 2023, 03:58:28 PM


Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.


Yes, many times, and I'm surprised that they are open to accepting Bitcoin, workers or providers that I thought were not aware of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is already popular here in our country but you have to ask people if they are willing to accept Bitcoin or keeping Bitcoin, it has something to do with our people being conservative or secretive on their wealth because of misconception.
Some people think that you are rich if you have Bitcoin or accept Bitcoin as payment you really never know here in our country who's into investing or holding Bitcoin unless you ask or have a hint that they are.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Nwada001 on August 25, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
You will be amazed if you try to conduct a survey on people who are using bitcoin within your surroundings, as it's not being written on people's faces; some people are just low-key. and this is really going to be beneficial to him as he is taking the payment for a skill and not something that he is selling, so he can save up without even thinking of losing a cent when the price drops or even thinking of selling off to buy back some goods.

And another reason why most people don't usually ask for such a payment option for a repair job like this is because they don't see them as people who will be interested in Bitcoin, and the repairer might also not ask because they don't know if the company they came to work for is Bitcoin friendly. Another aspect of this is that the amount involved might not be large enough to request that it be paid in Bitcoin unless it's actually a big job that's more than a simple repair.

It's actually nice that you asked and ended up completing a service using the payment option, and I hope you continue working with him in order to help him meet his accumulating target on time.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Ojima-ojo on August 25, 2023, 04:02:20 PM
Hell no, i don't promote Bitcoin in my locality to avoid security threats, and government sanctions since Bitcoin is banned where i leave and at that we only engage in Bitcoin discussion online, that is the only means i can promote Bitcoin by trying to get engage in it discussions on Reddit local sub-forum that way only those who are interested in Bitcoin discussion and information comes onboard., i have read of the ugly experience of those who could not keep they Bitcoin involvement as a secrets and thereafter exposed their lives to a lot of security threats.


In the society where we live, when anyone hears about Bitcoin, what comes to mind is either you have tons of money from illegal means and the government coming after you, or criminals from your neighbourhood who may have gotten information about your Bitcoin involvement, This is why privacy has become a paramount thing for most of us, in fact in my neighbourhood, I avoid any discussions that can involve Bitcoin or cryptocurrency on a face to face means to avoid problems.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Majestic-milf on August 25, 2023, 04:08:58 PM
 Well, good luck to him on his Bitcoin hodling journey. Gradually, Bitcoin is spreading to nooks and crannies and the funny part is it's being adopted by those we least expected. The Op expressed his shock about what the plumber said simply because he didn't expect a menial worker to have access to such knowledge.
This is a welcome development for BTC and this can help to fast track it's adoption.
 In my area, I find it difficult to preach or ask people I transact business with because it's not popular and I've assumed they are used to using the traditional fiat or credit cards to pay for services. Also, they might look at me like I've developed two heads ;D so I just keep it to myself.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Zaguru12 on August 25, 2023, 04:17:12 PM

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(

Definitely, my take, as long it is a thing of the internet many people with tag it scam and would not want to come in. A mindset like this can only be changed if at all you promise them that there is a lot of money to be made from it. But if you tell them the outright truth that there is risk also involve in it they don’t get interested.

I also don’t want to push to hard one based on your security reasons too and secondly I don’t want to be accountable for any lose when they lose there funds. I will stick to the aspect of teaching only if you requested. Like the OP did I don’t even ask workers for bitcoin payment option because to me I will only use that method for a cross border transaction because at this point my bitcoin is too valuable to be used to pay for little stuffs like this.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Frankolala on August 25, 2023, 04:18:48 PM
That is the fact,if you don't ask the service men,you wouldn't know if they accept bitcoin. I do ask once in a while but I have seen anyone that has told me that he accepts Bitcoin payment so far. Although in my country bitcoin is restricted and I do look at the individual before asking them if they accepts bitcoin so that I don't go and ask a CIA

Last week I needed a laptop and I asked the sales representative if they accept bitcoin for payment so that I don't pass through the stress of using an exchange but he said No. It will be lovely if people around us are into bitcoin just as we are,so that it will be used as a payment method and not only for investment.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Faisal2202 on August 25, 2023, 04:27:11 PM
Well, I think your joke got heavy on you as you lost your hand on your BTC. BTC has nothing to do with our labour force, specifically the plumber force. Because the one who came into your house was a plumber and a student too, he must have had good problem-solving and learning skills, which must have encouraged him to adopt new technology. Not to mention the fact that learning such new technology can become a headache for some.

And the plumbers here in my area or in my district are not students because plumbing is not some work that could generate decent income here, so everyone has to do a full-time job; they cannot do this work part-time. And the ones who are full-time plumbers do not want to learn new things; instead, they are just fed up with their lives so much that they do not even want to hear anything aside from their job and personal lives.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: komisariatku on August 25, 2023, 05:08:20 PM
If it's a true story then that's amazing, and what do you do, offering payment in bitcoins is an alternative to promoting the use of bitcoins in transactions. That's great.

But, I'm not as lucky as you. I live in a country where bitcoin is not legal for payment. In my country, bitcoin can only be owned as an asset and can only be used for crypto trading, so I can't do bitcoin promotions like you.

From my experience introducing bitcoin to my friends, most of them weren't interested, some were interested but unfortunately they thought the price of bitcoin was too expensive so they didn't dare to buy it, even though I said buying bitcoin could be done in small quantities.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Z-tight on August 25, 2023, 05:11:22 PM
He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.
I feel that as a merchant, if you accept payment in BTC, you should make it known to your customer base that you accept BTC, you wouldn't wait for them to ask you before you tell them the payment methods that you accept. If i walk into a store that accepts BTC, i would want to see their notice that "BTC is accepted here", that is how to attract customers that will pay you in our decentralized currency.
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
I haven't been promoting BTC in this way, i don't talk about BTC except when i am at home with my family or when i'm with my friends, BTC is very popular, but too many people are not interested so no need to bother them, and if as a merchant you accept BTC, the logical thing to do is to let your customers know.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Pablo-wood on August 25, 2023, 05:12:46 PM
I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.
He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.
I doubt if there are people who live in today's society who don't know about Bitcoin. Maybe some might not have had the privilege to own one but they must have heard of it in one way or another and as rightly presented in the thread it good to ask people if they will prefer Bitcoin has payment, that way we too are promoting the Bitcoin p2p transaction and increasing the demand.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
I have been too sceptical about offering people the option of been paid in Bitcoin but with a thread like this I will try to see how many persons will prefer to be paid in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Eternad on August 25, 2023, 05:16:53 PM
He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

99.99% of my experience on asking a certain service if they accept Bitcoin is they totally don’t have any idea about Bitcoin. It depends on country and location for people to become involved in Bitcoin maybe you are from country which Bitcoin is hype even for hard laborers.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

I’m not easily convinced with this because the payment is for his service. That is his salary and not a spare money which means that he will need to spend it for his necessities unless his work is just a part time job and he has other source of income.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Lorence.xD on August 25, 2023, 05:17:18 PM
I'm actually a student as well back then when I started studying Bitcoin online. I've heard it from my friend who started earlier than me but the rest I learned it by myself. So to answer your question, I tried to promote Bitcoin by just trying to do what my friend did to me back then to my other friends. Cause when pandemic hits, NFT games are hyped back in 2020 so they actually doing exchanges thru Binance where they have seen different coins.

Of course since they are engaging in the crypto world I didn't hesitate to introduced Bitcoin to them and explained the benefits, the risk, the volatility and almost all the information that I could think of about Bitcoin. At first they are really interested knowing the fact that I've earned in Bitcoin. In the end, they just simply said "they have no luck in Bitcoin" and kept grinding on NFT games where it's coin doesn't reach 1 dollar value today. Any kind of promoting is good but it would really depends on the people if they will acknowledged Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: nakamura12 on August 25, 2023, 05:36:03 PM
Well, I don't force someone to be in crypto or not but I would ask if they know about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency before I ask that person if he would like to get paid in Bitcoin, cash or e-cash (which is most used in my country). It's good if they accept Bitcoin but in my country, many people prefer cash or e-cash since it will be used to buy goods in the market where the vendors didn't even know about cryptocurrency and prefer cash as payment method.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 25, 2023, 05:42:40 PM
I believe this will only work with quite young people, like the one from your story, OP. Mostly people say that they heard about bitcoin, of course, but for their work they want "real money". If someone agrees to take payment in bitcoin, he has to be familiar with how this works, he needs to have a wallet and the address and be confident with the usage of them. In my country, people who work in the field of services such as plumbing or electricity have no idea how to use such things. And they do not set themselves the goal of learning. That's why I never offered Bitcoin as a way to pay for their work.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: _typer_ on August 25, 2023, 05:45:12 PM
But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(

Let's have a look from the other end. I'm a retired programmer and about a year ago I was invited by a long-year customer who invested over 2 million in more vacation-houses. We talked about finances in general and then got deeper into assets we are invested in. Really trusting this man I asked him if he is acquainted with Bitcoin and he was very interested even though I talked more about the vision than the possibility to lambo. Soon after we met again and he asked for help as to where and how to buy. Being told of course not to buy for more than he could afford to lose overnight without any pain he bought. And he bought again in November 22, hitting it nice (while I was waiting for the prive to go down a little more...).

What I'm trying to say is that we're in the same boat now what threats are concerned and we trust each other. Now I work for him again once in a while and he pays me with Bitcoin. We are both happy.

Why not spread the idea of Bitcoin among people you trust without a doubt. I know he woudn't tear down my house trying to find my seed(s) (and he sure would have to).

But I agree - never brag, never even talk about it with anyone you don't completely trust.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: bittraffic on August 25, 2023, 05:50:37 PM
I think I heard this story not so long ago. I can't remember where it was posted.
Everywhere today is adopting cashless payment and the CBDC in my country has been adopted widely as well. I saw a store that once accepted BTC but they seem to have stopped after the fiat base wallet was introduced.

I wouldn't expect someone who provides services will prefer to be paid in BTC but I'm sure those service provider who knows crypto are proud to put a sticker with the words Accept Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: taufik123 on August 25, 2023, 05:54:25 PM
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It's good if they accept Bitcoin but in my country, many people prefer cash or e-cash since it will be used to buy goods in the market where the vendors didn't even know about cryptocurrency and prefer cash as payment method.
In some developing countries whose governments provide strict regulations on crypto will certainly not allow the use of Bitcoin as a medium of exchange, which this greatly affects.

For those who do not understand, will choose cash for sure, but for those who understand crypto, Bitcoin will be an option because it has an investment value that will increase later, despite the high volatility.

As people who understand crypto, we only explain easily what crypto and bitcoin are, if they are not interested then just stop there, nothing needs to be forced.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on August 25, 2023, 06:01:52 PM
I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly.
Same situation here. Everyone instantly thinks of the cryptocurrency scam-sector, and dismisses anything I have to say about bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on August 25, 2023, 06:12:41 PM
For payments, yes.  Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: NeuroticFish on August 25, 2023, 06:29:07 PM
Why not spread the idea of Bitcoin among people you trust without a doubt. I know he woudn't tear down my house trying to find my seed(s) (and he sure would have to).

Well, as I said, I've done that many years ago. And not once. And clearly with more people than the two examples. (If any of them have invested.. they've never told me.)
But now.. there's nobody left I can trust and I didn't already tried to spread the idea.

So your point is correct, but I no longer can much on that.


And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire  ;)


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Zlantann on August 25, 2023, 06:39:40 PM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

You will never know until you ask. In my location, many people are aware of Bitcoin but they are more concerned about using it as a hedge against inflation and not as a means of payment. Some will also prefer using other forms of payment because their service or work charge might be insignificant to use Bitcoin payment systems due to transaction fees.

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While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Youths are more aware of Bitcoin than other age. They are more technologically inclined and easily adapt to innovation. You can easily get information about Bitcoin in most higher institutions of learning.

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Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused onIfif I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I have not asked any worker about paying in Bitcoin and none have ever asked. But I might consider it if I want to make a high payment. The decision to live a private life has also limited me from exposing that I am a Bitcoiner.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on August 25, 2023, 06:56:04 PM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
Promoting Bitcoin is not supported around me as crypto is banned in my country so I avoid to talk about it publicly but wherever I found someone talking bad about BTC on the basis of there wrong beliefs and wrong knowledge I do not hesitate to correct them.

And people near to me, tend to ask me because I share content related to crypto sometimes memes on my Status so those who asked by themselves. I teach them the basics.

People in my country are so attached to traditional finance like the banking system. They accepted the fate and the loss too. I am talking about the loss which they face due to the devaluing of there savings due to inflation. But even though they know BTC could save them from that loss but many afraid due to its volatility and many have religious beliefs about it. But still, I always tries to spread the knowledge I have in crypto for free.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Silberman on August 25, 2023, 07:06:04 PM
I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(
I experimented the same, the looks of disdain you can get from people thinking you were an idiot by investing in an asset which was clearly a scam to them is not something you forget, things have changed of course and many of those same people have at some point asked me about it and I simply play dumb or I do not even answer them, and the reason is obvious, now that many people know bitcoin is valuable it is a huge mistake to let others know you have it, as they may imagine you have a fortune and then then try to steal it from you.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: letteredhub on August 25, 2023, 07:46:26 PM
Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: macson on August 25, 2023, 07:52:48 PM
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He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
my story is a little different from yours, i run a vehicle wash business, i was once on a whim making payment options with bitcoin and some altcoins and i was quite surprised when i got a conversation with one of my detergent providers, he said he accepts payment by bitcoin if i want, which makes me wonder here that he is not young, he is middle age and when i asked him where he knew about bitcoin, he said his nephew is a bitcoin trader (i don't know if his nephew is a member of this forum too lol) he said fatherly earn money on the side, he often asks about potential future businesses and his nephew recommends bitcoin and other crypto assets, here i am quite happy because it turns out that there are many people who are unexposed are bitcoin lovers, bitcoin has become part of many people's lives.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: coolcoinz on August 25, 2023, 07:57:05 PM
I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(

That's me, which really is a sad thing.

Long ago, in 2016, I was full of hope for humanity and tried to tell people about bitcoin but I saw that smirk on their faces telling me something like "this guy got hooked by those  scammers, he's going to lose money" so I stopped doing it. it reached a point where I wouldn't talk about bitcoin at all unless somebody mentions it. Even then I don't immediately contradict them or reveal that I'm a bitcoiner but instead I try to learn as much as I can about their attitude, asking if they own some, if they heard about this or that, like blackrock investing, microstrategy and all the rest.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Agbe on August 25, 2023, 08:09:22 PM
From the topic and the first and second paragraphs of the thread I was thinking that it is a kind of off topic but as i finished reading the whole thread then I came to understand the content. As for me, I normally ask people if I am buying a mega electronics and I have not meant anyone that accepting bitcoin. Some of them even told me that they have not heard or they don't know what is bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: panganib999 on August 25, 2023, 08:14:40 PM
It's relative. Some countries are well aware of how crypto and bitcoin works. In the Philippines you do that and people will give you the funny looks. It's not that bad either that much I can say but at the same time I don't want to subject people into so much trouble especially after fixing my sink just to get them into bitcoin. Although if the welcome the idea why not. I agree with asking people if they want to get paid with bitcoin but this could drive some bitcoin fanatics into thinking they can just shove the bitcoin narrative to people's faces which is going to be a delicate slope to take. So still ask people if they want to get paid with bitcoin, but the first sign of rejection should be taken as it is and not be pushed too far already.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Wakate on August 25, 2023, 08:23:55 PM
Asking people can be a positive strategy too as we can never know by face who's using/accepting bitcoin as payment for their products and services, if op had never asked he wouldn't have known so at times we should not just assume that people in our environment ain't using or don't have idea about bitcoin, some might do but just decide to keep it private for personal reasons.

Nobody's perfect so there's no harm asking anyone , and in the onset of asking and the person says s/he has no idea about what you're asking it just another opportunity to educate someone about bitcoin. Who knows, they might pick interest based on how you deliver the lecture.
Even with the Bitcoin restrictions, people are still using Bitcoin in isolation and you will need to ask before they will tell you that they are Bitcoin investors or optimist. Asking people if they use Bitcoin may be an improper question but there is a way we can do it that will not look derogatory. We can always share our thoughts about Bitcoin to people to see if they will be interested, from there we can know those who care about Bitcoin and the people that don't give a shit about it especially in a region where Bitcoin is fully our partially ban.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: usekevin on August 25, 2023, 08:27:07 PM
For payments, yes.  Unless it isn't regularizes, then it be great to use. More persons are getting used to their regions need for decentralized finance, as banks no longer have much e-managencies.
I believe more students are getting exposed to the use of cryptocurrency to solve major financial problems because of decentralized technology and computer introduction and those who happens to have skills have resorted to earn via crypto purchaseor investment with payments from jobs inorder.

With regulators coming in, more businesses or private owned businesses would accept payments via crypto currency.


When you need to use the bitcoin as the mode of payment,it’s most essential one to ask the receiver to know about the address.The bank doesn’t like to use the bitcoin for their transactions,only in some countries the government itself guided their central government to launch the new cryptocurrency for them.But it takes huge time for the implementation after the creation of government owned cryptocurrency.Because it’s very hard to reach the downtrend of the society illiterate to learn of using the cryptocurrency from the paper money.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: OgNasty on August 25, 2023, 08:29:08 PM
Cool story… I used to ask people and give them the talk when they inquired about it. Most normal people think you’re trying to scam them or rope them into a Ponzi scheme. I understand it. You really need to jump down the rabbit hole on your own. You can’t force people to want to care about Bitcoin. A higher percentage of people than you probably think don’t want to care or concern themselves with the state of the dollar or the government.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on August 25, 2023, 08:50:44 PM

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Yes, I do make bitcoin awareness known to my close friends, but I don't ever promote bitcoin by asking anyone if I should pay them in bitcoin because I am not ready to spend the bitcoin I am holding for now. I would rather continue to accumulate them because I have plans for them in the near future, so I am holding my bitcoin as my investment.
 
And one thing again: the reason I don't ask if someone who comes to work for me will aspect Bitcoin or not is for security purposes. Who knows who may come to work for you and have back-to-back intentions toward you because they think you are worth something in your wallet? I have read in the news that people attack others because they just think it's worth some money. So I don't want everyone to know if I am using Bitcoin or not for now. Even my close friends, with whom I do discuss Bitcoin, don't know much about my wallet, but I do bring some points up so they can understand better.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: suzanne5223 on August 25, 2023, 09:13:12 PM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.
It is good to make use of Bitcoin as payment in real life but honestly using BTC as payment now doesn't look good from my own book based on the current price of the market and the chance of what accumulating BTC now will lead in the next few months.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
I have never promoted BTC that way but I have and prefer to engage with people in conversation. Besides, I have stopped using BTC as payment ever since the huge tx fee and I wonder how much you pay for a tx fee just by selling the plumber his payment through BTC.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Rengga Jati on August 25, 2023, 09:40:25 PM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
Bitcoin is for everyone in the world. Athough it sometimes makes us surprises, but nothng can limit who are in Bitcoin relation. Btw, itis very glad to see many morepeople are using Bitcin for any transaction. But yeah, this may be asked for first, because I amnot sure that in all areas, people are opened with their involvement in Bitcoin.So, this  can be one of the ways to ask itfirst r to have such kind of discussion about it to star.But, for me myself,it is quite difficult to start because Bitcoin is sometimes still connsidered as negative thing in my areas. and thie fact that Bitcoin is illegal if used as paymenet currency, this is why I am not starting any yet to askpeople about using Bitcoin for transaction


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 25, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(
I've had the exact same experience quite a few times and have now resorted to avoiding the conversation. A few days ago, I had another one tell me that Bitcoin stabilized and that's how it'll remain from now on. I tried explaining, but to no avail. I didn't bother any further.

While I like the idea and concept from the plumber's point of view, he's getting paid somewhere that he doesn't have direct access to; he can't spend it as easily as he can with a $20 bill; thus, my best guess is that he's using it as a saving-investing measure. On the other hand, I wouldn't pay with Bitcoin myself, as I feel that I'm spending a valuable asset along with any possible fees for something unnecessary. Moreover, as BlackHatCoiner mentioned, I'd prefer others not to know that I have Bitcoin, especially someone unknown as a plumber.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: lousie9 on August 25, 2023, 10:02:29 PM
Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: AmoreJaz on August 25, 2023, 10:06:40 PM
Actually i agree, I don't think there is a problem in giving Bitcoin a choice as one of the payment options that we offer to service workers like that.
But I don't think we can apply this and we do it anywhere because if it's in a place that still considers Bitcoin to be illegal then it's too risky for us and the people we give it to.
Apart from that, we actually have to be careful about offering Bitcoin to just anyone because we are afraid that they will have malicious intentions towards us and will threaten ourselves after they find out we are Bitcoin adopters.
Then this cannot be done by everyone because we know for ourselves that some people seem to prefer to collect and hold their Bitcoins compared to using them as a transaction tool, right?.

of course, you won't ask such question if you know bitcoin and other crypto are illegal in your area. however, if all is ok, if you have your own business, you can post it outside your shop that you are accepting btc. so people will know that you are accepting this currency and some of them will be curious about it. who knows, someone will ask you to teach them how to transact with btc? so are you ready for someone to ask you how to deal with crypto?


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: lionheart78 on August 25, 2023, 10:09:39 PM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: _typer_ on August 25, 2023, 10:52:20 PM
And since we both agree that we should do this only with people we trust, I guess that we can also agree that this exquisite list cannot contain any random plumber we hire  ;)

Totally agree  :)

And thanks for "The Random Plumber" - may it become a meme  ;)

(sorry for OT)


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: CryptSafe on August 25, 2023, 10:57:04 PM
I try my best to talk about bitcoin to people I see to be more curious about technology and innovation. Most people I have come in contact with are learned enough to assimilate blockchain technology and those already into it and they pretend and after i have finished conversing with them then they would own up to have knowledge about bitcoin but are just on a low key so as not to be known for security reasons.

Actually, it is nice if we do ask workmen their payment option or possibly we give them option to choose there and then they would open up to accepting their payment medium. From this we can be able to tell people about bitcoin to those who are not familiar with bitcoin as they would be curious to asking questions about bitcoin to knowing about it then. With this strategy bitcoin sensitization would go along way to the society through the skilled labour categories of people.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: KingsDen on August 25, 2023, 10:57:42 PM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

People who are living in countries where bitcoin is accepted as legal are free to ask. People who are in countries where bitcoin is banned dare not ask such questions.
Besides, people who have discovered the treasure in bitcoin do not want to be publicly identified as bitcoiners.
At this stage of life, many people have known about bitcoin, and the massive adoption is gradually u folding. Let's watch and see how everything will play out.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: sokani on August 25, 2023, 11:01:10 PM
I don't think it's a good idea. You can still make the purchase with cash, why messing up with bitcoin? You're putting yourself in an unnecessarily dangerous position. At this point, anyone who's known to own bitcoin is quickly thought as rich. It's just the way it is.

But, even if you weren't becoming target, what's the point of that anyway? If you want to pay a plumber, pay him with cash. Easy, free-of-charge, fully private.
You made a lot of sense sir. Sometimes we are responsible for some of the calamities that befall us. There are good reasons why some persons are very discreet with their crypto dealings and one of the reasons is because they don't want to attract unnecessary attention to themselves. If he had used Bitcoin away from home it would have been better but inviting a total stranger to his home and offering to pay him with Bitcoin, is not a smart thing to do. With many persons having the wrong impression that Bitcoin enthusiasts are well to do, the plumber might even gang up and come rob him.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Vaskiy on August 25, 2023, 11:35:25 PM
Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Ale88 on August 25, 2023, 11:44:09 PM
He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.
What do you mean by "people don't ask"? If you offer a service you should be the one giving the payment option in advance, especially if we're talking about jobs like plumbers, electricians, etc, that work in somebody else's place, so you don't have like a desk where the customer can see that you accept this and that. He should have been the one to ask you how you wanted to pay, not the other way around.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Asuspawer09 on August 25, 2023, 11:58:10 PM
Well, I guess it wasnt that bad to ask if they want Bitcoin I mean if someone is really in into Bitcoin they could easily ask for it but not everyone owns Bitcoin and i guess if your the one paying you could easily ask something lile that. I mean i wouldnt do it because of the hassle and fees, i dont really store Bitcoin on centralized platforms because its kinda risky for sure I just store mine on Electrum wallet accessing needs a laptop or pc and for convinient I wouldnt ask someone for Bitcoin Payment.

Maybe if the Bitcoin adaptation continue to grow it is probably going to be possible, since I can already see cryptocurrency being adapted on Banks platform allowing you to buy and sell cryptocurrency, but right now i just dont see Bitcoin as something that you could use especially on payment transactions jist because of the volatile market price.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Stable090 on August 26, 2023, 12:04:14 AM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Forever101 on August 26, 2023, 12:37:18 AM
In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Antonas1 on August 26, 2023, 05:01:03 AM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
I never tried and didn't dare since my government prohibited using Bitcoin as a payment and only allowed it as a commodity asset for trade. Even if they (workers) have the Bitcoin payment option, I still do not use it to avoid legal issues.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: mindrust on August 26, 2023, 05:07:03 AM
While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.


When your workers work for a minimum wage it doesn't matter whether they collect they money in FIAT or BTC. They'll still have to spend most of the money to pay their bills and there will be nothing left to save up. Actually in these situations FIAT is even better because we still can't pay all the bills via BTC and that means these workers will have to go a crypto exchange, convert their crypto to FIAT first, withdraw and then pay the bills. It will create so many extra steps...

If the workers are getting paid well enough then it is a completely different scenario. These people are probably making investments in various assets and if you pay them in btc, they will surely keep some of it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: spiker777 on August 26, 2023, 05:16:50 AM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Thats a great idea. I have never done that in IRL to be honest I never thought there could be anyone IRL who could accept Bitcoins. because bitcoin is not really is being used here just like you said you that. but I had asked anyone who I worked with online for bitcoin payments. some accepted bitcoins and most of them refused.
I think we should do that more often and ask IRL vendors and workers if they accept bitcoin. maybe that's how we can find bitcoin users in our area/city.
 


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: dothebeats on August 26, 2023, 05:18:05 AM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.
This is really nice, some people we think have no idea about bitcoin really know’s about it, but most of them don’t just talk about it. If you go to a store and you made your payment with bitcoin, it’s not really a bad idea, but if someone come to your house to fix something for you and you exposed it to the person that you are having bitcoin, don’t you think the person might end up coming back or sending people to you to steal the remaining bitcoin from you, and they might even end up getting you injured? We all should be careful about telling people about our bitcoin holdings, nobody can be trusted.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?
No, I haven’t done that before, and I think it’s not really necessary for now to avoid unnecessary stress. When you ask some people if you can pay them with bitcoin, some of them might end up thinking you even want to scam them, and since the central bank of my country is against bitcoin, your account might end up being reported if the wrong person knows that you are into bitcoin.


I somehow agree with you. Right now, it is better to be on the low about it. If an individual is the one to bring it up as a term of payment, especially for well-known establishments around the area, like stores, gas stations, and boutiques, then sure. However, if they are just one individual who you are not familiar with and is pretty sketchy then just keep it as a secret. We are still in a situation where it is difficult to know who we can trust regarding Bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Helena Yu on August 26, 2023, 05:20:52 AM
In my opinion, I think the promotion of a thing come with bigger task. People this days, find it difficult to engage in long term investment, as they need money for their immediate needs. Secondly, many person do not have the strength to withstand the deep moment in bitcoins. The best way to go about promotion is to introduce them to it, let them do their own research. Give them attention when they need help and put them true.
And what you get? nothing.

In a positive way, your friend will understand if investment is important and he might able to change his financial status become better. You will get a good friend and has a same interest with Bitcoin.

In a negative way, you will wasting your time, you friend will keep asking you about Bitcoin, they mocking you if Bitcoin is scam and worthless, your friend might become a criminal in order to steal your coins.

You're risking your life and get nothing.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: harizen on August 26, 2023, 05:33:04 AM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment?

I don't think such a question should be asked in the first place. It's not that I don't want to promote Bitcoin but let the adoption take place without doing such. Unless these people open up their interest in having Bitcoin as payment first, I should welcome it and might consider doing that.

Anyhow, in the particular case you shared with us, the workers instead are the ones who need to open up that they accept bitcoin, not the other way around which is the one who hired them. Not just bitcoin but before offering a service, especially a home service, they should always present their accepted payment methods.

If they really want to be paid in bitcoin, why they don't mention it in their ads or posts? As per your story, he said that people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment. That doesn't make sense if he really wants to be paid in Bitcoin. Does it mean they will just wait before someone offers them to accept Bitcoin payment instead?


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Blitzboy on August 26, 2023, 05:52:51 AM
the majority of us are sleepwalking through life, unaware of the undercurrents of change. When you offered him Bitcoin, a door to financial evolution swung open. It’s no surprise he's a student; the youth often lead these revolutions.

Do you know how many workers would adopt Bitcoin if we just ASKED? People fear what they don’t understand. But this plumber? He understands. Hes part of a new paradigm. For a currency revolution to take place, its up to US to initiate the conversation.

Bitcoin isnt just digital gold; its a reflection of our collective consciousness shifting towards decentralized systems. Start asking, start promoting, and maybe, just maybe, we can set the sails towards a future less dependent on outdated monetary systems


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Latviand on August 26, 2023, 07:05:17 AM
This would probably depend on where you're from, in my country, there's not a lot of interest in cryptocurrency or bitcoin so even if you advertise that your business accepts bitcoin, it's not getting that much attention, most of the population is pretty old-fashioned when it comes to mode of payments in my country so I don't know if it's worth to ask maybe in a more developed cities in my country, I might be able to find one, take my testimony with a grain of salt though, it's my experience and your experience might be different.

I tried to promote - long ago - bitcoin to friends and colleagues. Most have dismissed it almost instantly. Some few still remember of that. One envies me. Another one still tries - after so many years - to explain me the price is manipulated and it's all a scam.

But nowadays the paradigm has changed and many people - including me - prefer to not brag about bitcoin, no matter how big or small the amount is, to avoid unnecessary hassle with burglars or worse.
So... yeah..  :(
Now I want to know what happened to the people that you've mentioned, seems to me like you've got the last laugh out of them but I'm not satisfied with that, I want to know what's happened to them. Totally with you about being lowkey about owning bitcoin, nothing good comes out of bragging your bitcoin and those that would probably see your bitcoin will only be interested until the conversation is over.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: WatChe on August 26, 2023, 07:23:10 AM
No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I live in country (Pakistan) where crypto is ban and people hide there involvement in crpyto to avoid legal actions against them. The government here is getting more and aggressive towards bitcoin. The countries where crypto is not banned, you can ask anyone whether he accept Bitcoin or not. But still paying to plumber or any other merchant in Bitcoin is not ideal because of time it takes to settle the transactions. LN may be a better option to choose if you have to pay in Bitcoin. 


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: laurenB7742 on August 26, 2023, 07:47:27 AM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I will do the same thing as you, I will never mention bitcoin to strangers I don't know. That's like bragging and will take away my privacy while I'm trying to hide it. Even if that plumber mentioned bitcoin to me, I would shake my head and ignore it. I'm not afraid of being stolen or robbed, but it's really not a good idea to share my privacy with strangers.
I'm not against sharing bitcoins with everyone, but it also depends on the case and the person we share it with, if it's a relative, it really doesn't matter.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: uchegod-21 on August 26, 2023, 08:06:23 AM
Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.
It is not only seeing bitcoin as a scam or a manipulated coin, there is another side of the story. Immediately people understand that you are into bitcoin, they will see you as one of the below;
  • A fraudster
  • A wealthy person
  • An enlightened person
It is only a few number of the society that will see you as an enlightened person. The majority will either see you as a scammer or someone who is extremely rich and they will look for a way to harm or steal from you. This is why many people prefer to remain private with their bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Outhue on August 26, 2023, 08:09:43 AM
This is the true meaning of "You will never know until you ask".

Many people know about Bitcoin in my country but they don't want to accept it as a means of payment, Those who are into online jobs and those who have some Bitcoin still don't want to accept it as a means of payment because they need the cash more than the Bitcoin, trust me I have tried it before and I saw so many different reactions to accepting Bitcoin.

I am a fashion designer who prefers accepting Bitcoin from very limited numbers of people and I did this because I want to hold Bitcoin for the long term, mind you, I always need cash too, and most times I end up exchanging some Bitcoin back to cash to fund my business.

It's pretty hard to interact with Bitcoin transactions among your people, they are not making it easier at all since the majority of them don't want it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Nrcewker on August 26, 2023, 08:14:14 AM
This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are. It’s great to see that OP you are promoting the coins by these steps. But according to me you shouldn’t give away these valuable coins, as Bitcoins are very rare and a time will come when the price will just be sky rocketing and there will be scarcity of the coins. So save and accumulate as many Bitcoins as you can.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Tony116 on August 26, 2023, 08:21:59 AM
No, I don't ask them if they are accepting Bitcoin.  As much as possible I don't want to tell strangers about my involvement in crypto activities for security purposes.  I do not mind sharing them with close friends and relatives but with strangers, I just let them tell me their preferred payment options.  From that, I will choose, but mostly I wanted to pay in fiat so that my account won't be connected to anyone in terms of transactions except online transactions.

I live in country (Pakistan) where crypto is ban and people hide there involvement in crpyto to avoid legal actions against them. The government here is getting more and aggressive towards bitcoin. The countries where crypto is not banned, you can ask anyone whether he accept Bitcoin or not. But still paying to plumber or any other merchant in Bitcoin is not ideal because of time it takes to settle the transactions. LN may be a better option to choose if you have to pay in Bitcoin. 

Are Pakistan and Bangladesh close to each other? Because I also have a friend from Bangladesh and his country is very strict with bitcoin related matters. And his bitcoin holdings are not as favorable as many others.

I come from a country where bitcoin is not banned and people also regularly share information about bitcoin on their social networks. But I don't like doing that because I prefer privacy and if in OP's case, I wouldn't ask that plumber either. He's in the service industry, he should make public what payment methods he accepts, I have no reason to ask them about that. Second, I don't want to deny that using fiat or banking is more convenient in this case. One more thing, as @lionheart78 said, sharing bitcoins with strangers is not a nice thing.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Strongkored on August 26, 2023, 08:22:13 AM
Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.
I have never done this, maybe because my community value is not people who have the opportunity to accept Bitcoin as payment for the work or services they have done, so far what I have done with my Bitcoin is to use it for limited online transactions to buy some just thing, and unfortunately the website stop to accept Bitcoin at the moment and it looks like websites that accept Bitcoin feel there is a loss they receive because the price of Bitcoin is too volatile so they find it difficult to maintain Bitcoin as payment unless it immediately exchanges it for Fiat automatically. I really wish I could use Bitcoin for more direct transactions without having to convert it to fiat, but sadly Bitcoin adoption in my area isn't growing well enough.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: adzino on August 26, 2023, 08:36:20 AM
Sure, it's not a bad idea to go around asking people if they want to accept bitcoin when paying for things. Who knows, they might be interested and out of curiosity, they might even accept it. But, this is only going to happen if the amount isn't too big. Maybe for $10 or $20. I doubt someone who doesn't know much about bitcoin would be willing to accept $100 in bitcoin and take the risk of losing profit. And you might want to be cautious. Don't go around screaming you have bitcoin. Some might think you are rich and the next thing you will see when you wake up is that you are tied under a basement.
By the way, what made you think that a plumber wouldn't know what bitcoin is?


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Nheer on August 26, 2023, 10:41:48 AM
While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

In my side too students are the ones that are mostly into bitcoin they just try to make money for themselves one way or another so i am not surprised that he demanded for bitcoin as payment. Alot of people know about bitcoin but you wouldn’t know if they don’t tell you about it. I also saw someone buying bitcoin on Binance one day i went out to watch football, a local competition held in my town i was so surprised because that person didn’t look like someone that would know anything about bitcoin or cryptocurrency i was so happy so i went to him to say hi and we exchanged numbers as well.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

I would also like to spread the word about bitcoin, but I haven't had much luck lately; everytime I try to do so, people haven't shown much interest, so I've given up on it. Additionally, I haven't come across any businesses that accept bitcoin as payment, but when I do, I'll definitely patronise them.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: demonica on August 26, 2023, 11:32:51 AM
Well that's kinda interesting... I tried promoting Bitcoin myself, especially with the people around me like my friends and family. And I am open towards them that I'm into Bitcoin and crypto. And most of them really got interested about Bitcoin. But I don't really casually promote it on random people like adding Bitcoin as a payment option, just like what you did. I didn't think of it cause probably most of the time, people would just ignore Bitcoin as one of the option. Also, you could only ask others about Bitcoin as a payment option if they aren't working for a certain company unless their company or work, accepts Bitcoin.

But this kind of promotion still depends on the person. Some would think it's okay and some would be worried about their security so it'll still depends on the situation or to whom you'll be asking that kind of question.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Onyeeze on August 26, 2023, 11:48:55 AM
Bitcoin have widely spread to level that everyone is interested in bitcoin and when you listen to news and television broadcasters you see that they help to market bitcoin because of forex trading and buying and selling of bitcoin,  if you establish a business now and your requirements of payment is with bitcoin, you see that most of people will like to make payment with bitcoin and when you pay them with bitcoin it's for their saves and same time for investment, but when you make payments with fiat currency it will be easily for them to spend it, so such is life.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 26, 2023, 12:17:07 PM
This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are.

There is no correlation between the legalization of Bitcoin and people's knowledge of it. Bitcoin, on the contrary, is much more widespread in countries where it is not legalized, or partially legalized, as people perceive it as an alternative financial instrument capable of solving issues that national currencies cannot cope with. And in general, there are not many people left who are not at all aware of what Bitcoin is. Another thing is that not everyone knows how to use it. But this also depends more on the desire than on the conditions in which bitcoin is legalized.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Texac on August 26, 2023, 12:41:47 PM
Bitcoin have widely spread to level that everyone is interested in bitcoin and when you listen to news and television broadcasters you see that they help to market bitcoin because of forex trading and buying and selling of bitcoin,  if you establish a business now and your requirements of payment is with bitcoin, you see that most of people will like to make payment with bitcoin and when you pay them with bitcoin it's for their saves and same time for investment, but when you make payments with fiat currency it will be easily for them to spend it, so such is life.


Bitcoin has spread and most people know about bitcoin, but what they care about is bitcoin profit, or they use it for the purpose of protecting assets from government tracking.  very few people consider it as a means of payment.  let's take you as an example, are you using bitcoin for your daily bills, or are you also accumulating it and using it to hide your wealth?  I mean, I don't think people will use it very often as a means of payment even if you live in a country where bitcoin is legal.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Onyeeze on August 26, 2023, 01:13:29 PM
Bitcoin have widely spread to level that everyone is interested in bitcoin and when you listen to news and television broadcasters you see that they help to market bitcoin because of forex trading and buying and selling of bitcoin,  if you establish a business now and your requirements of payment is with bitcoin, you see that most of people will like to make payment with bitcoin and when you pay them with bitcoin it's for their saves and same time for investment, but when you make payments with fiat currency it will be easily for them to spend it, so such is life.


Bitcoin has spread and most people know about bitcoin, but what they care about is bitcoin profit, or they use it for the purpose of protecting assets from government tracking.  very few people consider it as a means of payment.  let's take you as an example, are you using bitcoin for your daily bills, or are you also accumulating it and using it to hide your wealth?  I mean, I don't think people will use it very often as a means of payment even if you live in a country where bitcoin is legal.
Those people who does not consider bitcoin as payment option have their reasons why they don't consider bitcoin as such, what I know concerning bitcoin right now is that Bitcoin  as a payment is few people who values bitcoin will do that, people are be scared of bitcoin not using it as a payment option because it's not legalized, if bitcoin is properly being legalized you will see that all business will use Bitcoin as a payment option, they are just being afraid of bitcoin that is why you can't see  not business men and business women using bitcoin as a payment option.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: cheezcarls on August 26, 2023, 02:46:25 PM
Reminds me of my close friend years ago when I bought some vitamins on a regular basis. I did asked him if he prefers cash, mobile payment or Bitcoin.

Although he preferred cash, but he was curious about Bitcoin. So I educated him a bit about the positive and real use cases of it as well as the risks.

He was not ready for BTC though, but would likely consider it sometime. Not all can be pleased or impressed about Bitcoin, but there are many people that we could spread awareness about it and not just focusing only on one.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Inwestour on August 26, 2023, 03:59:36 PM
Sure, it's not a bad idea to go around asking people if they want to accept bitcoin when paying for things. Who knows, they might be interested and out of curiosity, they might even accept it. But, this is only going to happen if the amount isn't too big. Maybe for $10 or $20. I doubt someone who doesn't know much about bitcoin would be willing to accept $100 in bitcoin and take the risk of losing profit. And you might want to be cautious. Don't go around screaming you have bitcoin. Some might think you are rich and the next thing you will see when you wake up is that you are tied under a basement.
By the way, what made you think that a plumber wouldn't know what bitcoin is?
Will you be willing to pay feeses for such inexpensive $10 purchases? Even in El Salvador, where bitcoin is recognized as legal tender, not everyone wants to accept payment in bitcoin, so it's all very individual. Entrepreneurial people will want to try accepting bitcoin payments and see if it will allow them to make more profit, and if it doesn’t make much sense, then it’s clear that they probably won’t be interested. And those who are ready to accept payment in bitcoins will simply notify about this by some kind of signboard, so that everyone does not have to ask about it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Kakmakr on August 26, 2023, 04:19:54 PM
That is exactly what I did at work....

I asked them if they were willing to give 15% of my salary in Bitcoin (because that was what I usually converted myself) and they agreed. Then I went around and asked a few food merchants in our area, if they accepted Bitcoin and three of them did.

Now, I get bitcoins as part of my salary and I spend some of it on food for lunch. It is so satisfying to oil the system and to keep Bitcoin going by spending bitcoins.. and not just hoarding it.  :D :D :D


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: MFahad on August 26, 2023, 04:39:24 PM
Finance of a person can be make stable if he spent his income according to the specific planning as spending more money in useless activities is a way towards defeat.
Sharing ideas with friends, reading books and watching videos helps an individuals how to work properly according to one's income. Also if one see how his fellows that how he managed his expenses then it can also helps him alot. No one is perfect but perfection comes when we work for it so no one is financially stable from start but if one realized the factor which will aid him then financial stability is not a big issue.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Z-tight on August 26, 2023, 04:54:41 PM
Bitcoin isnt just digital gold; its a reflection of our collective consciousness shifting towards decentralized systems. Start asking, start promoting, and maybe, just maybe, we can set the sails towards a future less dependent on outdated monetary systems
I'm sorry i am not going to ask a 'plumber' if they accept BTC, if they accept BTC as one of their payment methods they have to let their customers know, and even if i hire a domestic worker to come work for me in my home and they accept BTC, i am going to pay in fiat and pretend like i don't use BTC. You don't know who this person could be, they might return later at night, but this time with a $5 wrench in hand.

I prefer to spend my BTC in a store or in any area where my trading partner doesn't know my house, we might change the stereotype in the future, but for now once people see that you use BTC, they'll think you are rich and might plan an attack on you, i am not ready to take that risk.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: HONDACD125 on August 26, 2023, 06:15:09 PM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.


First of all, I appreciate you for playing an important role in promoting Bitcoin as an excellent form of payment. I think the student who came to work for you as a plumber knew a lot about Bitcoin. It is good that students are also interested in Bitcoin. Receipt in the form of bitcoins can make his earnings safe and profitable. He rightly said that if he had received cash from you, the money would have been spent by him. His receipt in the form of bitcoins suggests that he was interested in investing in bitcoins. Of course, investing a portion of your earnings into Bitcoin is one of the best strategies. People who know about Bitcoin will definitely accept Bitcoin as payment, because they know that they can convert Bitcoins into cash whenever they need. We are continuing the awareness campaign about Bitcoin among the people around us, and trying to make people prefer to invest in Bitcoin. It would help a lot to promote Bitcoin if everyone tried like you.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: The Cryptovator on August 26, 2023, 06:31:54 PM
In the beginning, when I first discovered Bitcoin, I attempted to explain its concept to my friends. Unfortunately, back then, none of them showed any interest. However, just 3 days ago, when we gathered again, they noticed the progress I've made. They are now aware of my continued involvement with Bitcoin and regret not paying attention earlier. They express a desire to get involved, but the high volatility of the market makes them hesitant to take the plunge. However, I haven't extended any offers to involve them in my workers.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: MFahad on August 26, 2023, 06:59:21 PM
It will be better if knowledge of bitcoin is obtain by everyone but I don't think that in our society everyone knows about it. As you described about plumber so may be he has knowledge about it as he is a student and in every institution where there is one guy involved so every other guy also tries to do the same thing.

It means that he wants from longer time to buy bitcoin but due to some issues he cannot do it so by working as a plumber he achieved his desired goal. Spreading knowledge is easy and there will be lots of individuals who will do that so buying bitcoin sometimes become difficult therefore for those individuals taking bitcoin as a payment will be useful thing.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Wimex on August 26, 2023, 07:46:06 PM
It seems that the plumber had a pretty solid knowledge of Bitcoin and its advantages hahahaha. Which may indicate that you are more aware of current financial and technological trends. There are times when the person we least believe has great knowledge, the adoption of Bitcoin as a form of payment is not yet wide compared to traditional currencies... The volatility of the value of Bitcoin and the lack of regulation in some places can influence. . the willingness of people to accept it as payment... But I would say that the lack of knowledge is even greater, because most of the people I have asked about Bitcoin, none of them know what it is, the only thing is that young  observed that they tend to know more about what Bitcoin is and what it is for... It is fascinating how technology is influencing various industries and our daily financial interactions, I just hope more is known in my country.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: anjiitem on August 26, 2023, 10:58:30 PM
I'm sorry i am not going to ask a 'plumber' if they accept BTC, if they accept BTC as one of their payment methods they have to let their customers know, and even if i hire a domestic worker to come work for me in my home and they accept BTC, i am going to pay in fiat and pretend like i don't use BTC. You don't know who this person could be, they might return later at night, but this time with a $5 wrench in hand.

I prefer to spend my BTC in a store or in any area where my trading partner doesn't know my house, we might change the stereotype in the future, but for now once people see that you use BTC, they'll think you are rich and might plan an attack on you, i am not ready to take that risk.
I agree with the opinion that you convey, in my opinion it is something that is lacking or maybe not wise if we expose too much what we have in this case our Bitcoin, to someone or several people who we don't know very well because it could threaten our safety.
Because I don't think that we are anti-social, don't trust everyone and have prejudice against everyone we don't know well, but in my opinion this is an effort that I will make to be more careful or anticipate the security and safety of ourselves and our Bitcoin assets we have.
Yes it's better to spend my Bitcoin with those who definitely accept a clear Bitcoin payment method and we already know.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Iranus on August 27, 2023, 12:34:48 AM
In the beginning, when I first discovered Bitcoin, I attempted to explain its concept to my friends. Unfortunately, back then, none of them showed any interest. However, just 3 days ago, when we gathered again, they noticed the progress I've made. They are now aware of my continued involvement with Bitcoin and regret not paying attention earlier. They express a desire to get involved, but the high volatility of the market makes them hesitant to take the plunge. However, I haven't extended any offers to involve them in my workers.

I also have a few friends like that, and I think you and I are not alone in this situation. Many people missed out, and now they want to start getting involved with bitcoin. But honestly, I don't want to give advice to anyone, especially friends because I don't want our friendship to involve money. If I give advice and their investment succeeds nothing will happen, but if their investment fails they will blame and my friendship will be broken. Moreover, knowledge about bitcoin is not too difficult to find, if really want they can find it easily on the internet, I just provide more knowledge, I will never give any advice related to investment.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Mr.suevie on August 27, 2023, 03:20:01 AM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Well the only practical reasons why people feel bitcoin payment is limited to a particular group is because bitcoin adoption is still very far behind but as the day comes and closes we always get nearer to a new phase of full adoption and upon reaching that time it won't be something if suprise again when it comes to folks accepting bitcoin and moreover bitcoin is still highly restricted in some area which makes people curious on who and who is actually exposed to bitcoin.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Texac on August 27, 2023, 04:24:39 AM
Bitcoin have widely spread to level that everyone is interested in bitcoin and when you listen to news and television broadcasters you see that they help to market bitcoin because of forex trading and buying and selling of bitcoin,  if you establish a business now and your requirements of payment is with bitcoin, you see that most of people will like to make payment with bitcoin and when you pay them with bitcoin it's for their saves and same time for investment, but when you make payments with fiat currency it will be easily for them to spend it, so such is life.


Bitcoin has spread and most people know about bitcoin, but what they care about is bitcoin profit, or they use it for the purpose of protecting assets from government tracking.  very few people consider it as a means of payment.  let's take you as an example, are you using bitcoin for your daily bills, or are you also accumulating it and using it to hide your wealth?  I mean, I don't think people will use it very often as a means of payment even if you live in a country where bitcoin is legal.
Those people who does not consider bitcoin as payment option have their reasons why they don't consider bitcoin as such, what I know concerning bitcoin right now is that Bitcoin  as a payment is few people who values bitcoin will do that, people are be scared of bitcoin not using it as a payment option because it's not legalized, if bitcoin is properly being legalized you will see that all business will use Bitcoin as a payment option, they are just being afraid of bitcoin that is why you can't see  not business men and business women using bitcoin as a payment option.

It has not been legalized as a means of payment which could be one of many reasons.  but you can't deny that people are seeing it as an investment rather than a currency, as I said, neither you nor I want to use bitcoin for day-to-day payments.  since we know its future value, no one wants to waste it. Besides volatility which is also a big hurdle, I bet you wouldn't dare buy bitcoin for $60k and would spend it when it's at $30k.  there are many barriers that prevent people from using bitcoin as a means of payment.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Bitcoin_people on August 27, 2023, 06:59:19 AM
In the beginning, when I first discovered Bitcoin, I attempted to explain its concept to my friends. Unfortunately, back then, none of them showed any interest. However, just 3 days ago, when we gathered again, they noticed the progress I've made. They are now aware of my continued involvement with Bitcoin and regret not paying attention earlier. They express a desire to get involved, but the high volatility of the market makes them hesitant to take the plunge. However, I haven't extended any offers to involve them in my workers.

I also have a few friends like that, and I think you and I are not alone in this situation. Many people missed out, and now they want to start getting involved with bitcoin. But honestly, I don't want to give advice to anyone, especially friends because I don't want our friendship to involve money. If I give advice and their investment succeeds nothing will happen, but if their investment fails they will blame and my friendship will be broken. Moreover, knowledge about bitcoin is not too difficult to find, if really want they can find it easily on the internet, I just provide more knowledge, I will never give any advice related to investment.
You're right because if you force a friend to learn about Bitcoin, he'll blame you later if he loses. Moreover, if you don't tell them about Bitcoin again, they will be most interested in learning about it. I saw a neighbor of mine told him about Bitcoin long ago but he didn't accept it but rather spoke negatively about it. But when I earned a good amount from Bitcoin he showed some attitude towards Bitcoin and he said how it is possible. Later I explained him well and told him about market volatility then he told me if he is willing to invest in Bitcoin I gave him some idea. Because of which he is now most interested in investing and some amount of money he made in a day and he came to me to take advice better but I ask him to follow different social media. But if you explain your friends well then surely they will gain knowledge about Bitcoin and will not lose money for investment but gain. Because if someone loses money on your advice online, you will have to blame yourself, but if you tell your friends about the weapon and later on they face bitcoin investment, you can't blame them, rather you give them good advice.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Negotiation on August 27, 2023, 07:57:35 AM
This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are.

There is no correlation between the legalization of Bitcoin and people's knowledge of it. Bitcoin, on the contrary, is much more widespread in countries where it is not legalized, or partially legalized, as people perceive it as an alternative financial instrument capable of solving issues that national currencies cannot cope with. And in general, there are not many people left who are not at all aware of what Bitcoin is. Another thing is that not everyone knows how to use it. But this also depends more on the desire than on the conditions in which bitcoin is legalized.
Bitcoin is a type of decentralized currency whose buying and selling is possible on the internet so if you want you can own a bitcoin but it is correct that it depends on the individual's own will in using bitcoin. Bitcoin is still not legalized in many countries but many people know and are aware of it because of its use through the internet. Even if it is not legalized, it will continue to be used and become a more popular currency. From a financial perspective bitcoin is able to deal with financial problems.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Marvell1 on August 27, 2023, 09:52:31 AM
This can only possible in countries where Bitcoins are legal. Else if you ask for giving in Bitcoins in countries where Bitcoins are not legalised, then most of the time people won’t be aware of what Bitcoins are.

There is no correlation between the legalization of Bitcoin and people's knowledge of it. Bitcoin, on the contrary, is much more widespread in countries where it is not legalized, or partially legalized, as people perceive it as an alternative financial instrument capable of solving issues that national currencies cannot cope with. And in general, there are not many people left who are not at all aware of what Bitcoin is. Another thing is that not everyone knows how to use it. But this also depends more on the desire than on the conditions in which bitcoin is legalized.
Bitcoin is a type of decentralized currency whose buying and selling is possible on the internet so if you want you can own a bitcoin but it is correct that it depends on the individual's own will in using bitcoin. Bitcoin is still not legalized in many countries but many people know and are aware of it because of its use through the internet. Even if it is not legalized, it will continue to be used and become a more popular currency. From a financial perspective bitcoin is able to deal with financial problems.

I will probably disagree with your statement. We can own and invest in bitcoin even if we live in a country where bitcoin is banned. But for it to become a popular currency without government approval is impossible. One of the many reasons why bitcoin is still unpopular and many people dare not use it is because they fear a government ban. And how do businesses and shops accept it as currency if the government refuses? Individuals can use bitcoin quietly and stealthily from the government, but for businesses and institutions that is not possible.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 27, 2023, 10:07:26 AM
I will probably disagree with your statement. We can own and invest in bitcoin even if we live in a country where bitcoin is banned. But for it to become a popular currency without government approval is impossible. One of the many reasons why bitcoin is still unpopular and many people dare not use it is because they fear a government ban. And how do businesses and shops accept it as currency if the government refuses? Individuals can use bitcoin quietly and stealthily from the government, but for businesses and institutions that is not possible.

Actually, it can be popular precisely because of the reason of disapproval by the governments. People often look for alternatives if the state forbids them to work white and openly in some field. The legal ways to transfer funds offered by most states cannot compare to cryptocurrencies. Generally, cryptocurrencies were invented as an alternative to traditional financial instruments offered by the state. And the more the state restricts the population in these matters, the more popular cryptocurrencies will become.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Peanutswar on August 27, 2023, 10:53:15 AM
With these times people now are aware with the use of bitcoin seems like that person knows the bitcoin already use of it so he accepts to offer this kind of mode of payment, for sure not literate people will disagree with bitcoin because they don't know what it is so why they will accept this instead the cash, that's all mean that the bitcoin now are continuously knowing and growing by the people. AFAIK there's a thread created about using bitcoin with the salary, some of them agreed but some of them doesn't want because of the possible loss due to market volatility.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: legendbtc on August 27, 2023, 11:39:27 AM
AFAIK there's a thread created about using bitcoin with the salary, some of them agreed but some of them doesn't want because of the possible loss due to market volatility.

If it were you, would you accept to pay your salary in bitcoin or still fiat? One more thing, it makes no sense for us to accept salaries or payments in bitcoin but then immediately convert them into fiat. I still find it more convenient to use fiat in both of these cases than bitcoin. Furthermore, I won't do the same thing as the OP, I don't want others to know I'm a bitcoin investor nor tell them where I am. Too much risk because we don't know who they are and what they will do to us.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Blitzboy on August 27, 2023, 11:45:09 AM
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You're right because if you force a friend to learn about Bitcoin, he'll blame you later if he loses. Moreover, if you don't tell them about Bitcoin again, they will be most interested in learning about it. I saw a neighbor of mine told him about Bitcoin long ago but he didn't accept it but rather spoke negatively about it. But when I earned a good amount from Bitcoin he showed some attitude towards Bitcoin and he said how it is possible. Later I explained him well and told him about market volatility then he told me if he is willing to invest in Bitcoin I gave him some idea. Because of which he is now most interested in investing and some amount of money he made in a day and he came to me to take advice better but I ask him to follow different social media. But if you explain your friends well then surely they will gain knowledge about Bitcoin and will not lose money for investment but gain. Because if someone loses money on your advice online, you will have to blame yourself, but if you tell your friends about the weapon and later on they face bitcoin investment, you can't blame them, rather you give them good advice.
First, they're all "Nah, I don't want none of that Bitcoin business," then they see a bit of success, and suddenly they're sliding into your DMs asking for some of that crypto advice. Classic. Come on, I mean, It's similar to how Joe wont put his phone down since I insisted he use Twitter.

People must, nevertheless, make their own decisions in complete seriousness. A horse can be made to drink from a bucket, but you cant make it HODL, am I right? LOL. They dont want to miss the Bitcoin train, so sometimes its all about FOMO. Hey, if they make a mistake, its not your fault. Just watch out that you're not trying to dictate foreign policy while giving financial advice, you know what I mean? And occasionally... just let the nonsense flow


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Marvell1 on August 28, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
I will probably disagree with your statement. We can own and invest in bitcoin even if we live in a country where bitcoin is banned. But for it to become a popular currency without government approval is impossible. One of the many reasons why bitcoin is still unpopular and many people dare not use it is because they fear a government ban. And how do businesses and shops accept it as currency if the government refuses? Individuals can use bitcoin quietly and stealthily from the government, but for businesses and institutions that is not possible.

Actually, it can be popular precisely because of the reason of disapproval by the governments. People often look for alternatives if the state forbids them to work white and openly in some field. The legal ways to transfer funds offered by most states cannot compare to cryptocurrencies. Generally, cryptocurrencies were invented as an alternative to traditional financial instruments offered by the state. And the more the state restricts the population in these matters, the more popular cryptocurrencies will become.

Bitcoin is really good so even if the government issues a ban, many people will still escape the ban to use bitcoin, but it cannot be said that bans will make bitcoin more popular. By far, the government is one of the biggest barriers for bitcoin to become more popular. People are always dissatisfied with what the government does, always go online to slander the government…but no one can agree or stand up against the government. Because they all know that against them there will be no good results. That's why if you live in a country that bans bitcoin and they know you use bitcoin, you will be punished by law and you can't do anything else. We shouldn't deny that the government's bitcoin ban is a huge disadvantage to it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Kasabus on August 28, 2023, 09:30:08 AM
This is an eye opener to everyone that not all people badly needed cash, as some are still eager to accept bitcoin or any crypto payment more than cash or fiat. That’s how technology has affected them, and yet we still limit our minds into fiat thinking that it’s the only answer to solve poverty and unemployment. Now, hopefully whenever we ask some people to do some home services, at least we should learn to ask first what type of payment they wish to receive. Or better yet, suggest bitcoin because it’s one way of promoting bitcoin especially to those who fail to recognize it or think that it has still no value up to these days.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: bitterguy28 on August 28, 2023, 11:20:41 AM
This is an eye opener to everyone that not all people badly needed cash, as some are still eager to accept bitcoin or any crypto payment more than cash or fiat. That’s how technology has affected them, and yet we still limit our minds into fiat thinking that it’s the only answer to solve poverty and unemployment. Now, hopefully whenever we ask some people to do some home services, at least we should learn to ask first what type of payment they wish to receive. Or better yet, suggest bitcoin because it’s one way of promoting bitcoin especially to those who fail to recognize it or think that it has still no value up to these days.
and this shows that people are truly moving now , making use of technology more than physical money.
not letting government taking over of their funds, and not letting banks scamming them by all means.
also we are not here to support anything but bitcoin and of course some altcoins that has uses.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on August 28, 2023, 11:35:06 AM
This is another good way to try to find out from people what their thought about Bitcoin is, really a great idea shared by the op , I honestly have never thought of ever jokingly asking anyone who did any kind of work for me, if they would like their payment in Bitcoin or bank transfer or cash, whatever means available, the only time I offered to pay for something in Bitcoin was when I tried bank transfer but was unable to complete the transaction due to network failure, and due to how urgent I needed to make that payment, I ask the seller if he would take Bitcoin as payment since bank transfer isn't working, luckily, he agreed even though according to him, he is yet to learn what and how Bitcoin really functions or operates ..


Thank you op, it's a good idea you have shared, from now on, I sure would have this joke in mouth always when ever any body or group of people does any work for me, or I go out there to purchase anything, I would always ask if paying Bitcoin is an option, this is only when I am willing to make Bitcoin payments though ,😁


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: fruktik on August 28, 2023, 12:00:53 PM
I live in a small provincial town with a population of just over 150,000 people. Quite normal living conditions, but cryptocurrency payments are banned. Once, in a small shop, I was buying beer and was unexpectedly surprised that the seller offered me a choice of several popular crypto projects for payment. To be honest, I did not believe my ears and asked him again. The answer was positive. Unfortunately, at that time I did not even have a Bitcoin wallet. I had to pay by default. This is how entrepreneurs risk in order to somehow support their business in the difficult conditions of reality. They take such steps against the law.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: savetheFORUM on August 28, 2023, 02:15:30 PM
Very few have the positive mind whereas the majority doesn't have any positive thoughts and they simply term bitcoin as scam and a manipulated one. They never understand better about bitcoin, it takes lots and lots of time. Just on requesting the people nothing gonna change. OP should continue to ask the same question with different people on various professions and if we see more than 30% ready to accept bitcoin payments then we're good with the spread on bitcoin.
It is not only seeing bitcoin as a scam or a manipulated coin, there is another side of the story. Immediately people understand that you are into bitcoin, they will see you as one of the below;
  • A fraudster
  • A wealthy person
  • An enlightened person
It is only a few number of the society that will see you as an enlightened person. The majority will either see you as a scammer or someone who is extremely rich and they will look for a way to harm or steal from you. This is why many people prefer to remain private with their bitcoin.
This is a mistake that a lot of people make when they are discussing Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies with others. They are not supposed to mention that they actually own or hold any Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies because that will obviously make the other person feel like they have a lot of wealth hidden in cryptocurrencies, but one should generally discuss the technology and its pros and cons and the matter or risks and gains only to make the other person understand.

People that don't know much about the technology might not take this negatively but those who know Bitcoin has a high value and if they come to know that you have Bitcoins, whether it's 0.01 BTC, the person will think that you might have a few since you know this much about it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: KiaKia on August 28, 2023, 04:41:19 PM
Sure, it's not a bad idea to go around asking people if they want to accept bitcoin when paying for things. Who knows, they might be interested and out of curiosity, they might even accept it. But, this is only going to happen if the amount isn't too big. Maybe for $10 or $20. I doubt someone who doesn't know much about bitcoin would be willing to accept $100 in bitcoin and take the risk of losing profit. And you might want to be cautious. Don't go around screaming you have bitcoin. Some might think you are rich and the next thing you will see when you wake up is that you are tied under a basement.
By the way, what made you think that a plumber wouldn't know what bitcoin is?
This is a wrong judgment about my original post, I never said I go around asking people if they will accept Bitcoin, that's madness.

I said it's a good idea if someone works for you or under you and it's time for you to pay up and you add Bitcoin as part of payment option available. 

Like, will you take cash or transfer or Bitcoin? I did that unwillingly, because it's scarce to see people accepting Bitcoin as payment here.

Saying that, don't go around screaming you have Bitcoin is just stupid, there is nothing in my OP that backed this claim of yours up because I never said such.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Flexystar on August 28, 2023, 04:52:27 PM
I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

The plumbers sense of judgment is really nice. This is actually coming from the practical example that means he must have had experiences with other customers too. Who knows he might also have asked himself to other customers that whether they are willing to pay him in the form of Bitcoin or not? It could have been possible that only 1 out of 10 said yes to him because that is what the current population knows about Bitcoin. Surprisingly he mate you and you came to know the grim reality of using bitcoin as real world application.

It is nothing new in many developed countries that new generations are already playing with bitcoin. There are even many stores who has the sticker for Bitcoin Accepted Here. It is not the merchant, or handful people but it is the major walking crowd that is not interested in paying with bitcoin. It will only change eventually but there is certainty for the same.

You had good experience by the way. I might try this as well just to check how it goes here. :)


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 28, 2023, 05:57:24 PM
I live in a small provincial town with a population of just over 150,000 people. Quite normal living conditions, but cryptocurrency payments are banned. Once, in a small shop, I was buying beer and was unexpectedly surprised that the seller offered me a choice of several popular crypto projects for payment. To be honest, I did not believe my ears and asked him again. The answer was positive. Unfortunately, at that time I did not even have a Bitcoin wallet. I had to pay by default. This is how entrepreneurs risk in order to somehow support their business in the difficult conditions of reality. They take such steps against the law.

No doubts, this is an encouraging story. However, I don't understand, how such business like a store could make this move and take payment in crypto, because, as far as I concerned, they wouldn't be able to declare this income. And this is exactly the reason, why even enthusiastic entrepreneurs don't use crypto. Even if it is not banned, but not officially legalised. Because no-one knows how to deal with taxes when you use it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: JunaidAzizi on August 28, 2023, 06:19:46 PM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Well, it's a good thing you did for the awareness of Bitcoin that Bitcoin is really used as a currency in the real world. Sometimes people do not believe in Bitcoin to buy things and goods and pay the workers as a wedge but you did it and I also recommend others to do so because it will spread awareness in the people and it is also easy for you to pay in just one or two taps rather go to banks etc. I always used to convince my friends to start cryptocurrency and invest in Bitcoin but they were afraid of these things, First crypto is banned in our country and second, they don't understand how it actually works as it's a digital currency. They said to me "What if lose our whole money because we have a small budget" then I started understanding crypto to them and at last they its not but a fairytale. 


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 29, 2023, 08:45:12 AM
.... and I also recommend others to do so because it will spread awareness in the people .... 

I would rather say not about spreading awareness among people, but about readiness to use bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general despite all the obstacles, even such as ban. I see this as a foundation for further development and distribution of crypto. People see many advantages in this and they are not stopped by circumstances. The more people who consider payments and settlements in cryptocurrency to be absolutely normal, the faster their use will reach a completely new level, when they create a very serious competition to traditional financial instruments.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: kotajikikox on August 29, 2023, 10:32:17 AM
.... and I also recommend others to do so because it will spread awareness in the people .... 

I would rather say not about spreading awareness among people, but about readiness to use bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general despite all the obstacles, even such as ban. I see this as a foundation for further development and distribution of crypto. People see many advantages in this and they are not stopped by circumstances. The more people who consider payments and settlements in cryptocurrency to be absolutely normal, the faster their use will reach a completely new level, when they create a very serious competition to traditional financial instruments.

why not share awareness for other people? specially those people who are close to you? imagine our family and friends who can afford to invest but we denied luring them to earn with us>?
i know that we must play safe outside , but not with our own circle of family and friends as they also deserve to earn from this market.



Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Blitzboy on August 29, 2023, 11:43:30 AM
The water system in my house got some blocking issues and I needed to call a plumber, the plumber guy I was used to was not available, I called and he said he is far away, so I looked for someone else.

After he went through the problem and fixed the pipes for me, out of joke I gave him payment options that are available, if he will like any.

I asked him if he will want cash, bank transfer or Bitcoin, to my surprise he answered Bitcoin, I don't take this very seriously because, you know, most people don't care about Bitcoin here, but he brought out his smartphone and told me to scan the QR CODE.

I asked if he really his serious and he said yes, I had to pay him in Bitcoin and he said something that caught my attention.

He said people don't ask that's why he believed no one is using Bitcoin as payment.

He also said collecting cash will make him spend the money faster but he chose Bitcoin because he planned to start buying the following week.

While I was trying to question him about how he know about Bitcoin he revealed that he is a student, and that being a plumber is his side hustle, this answered my curiosity about how he knew about Bitcoin.

Have you guys been promoting Bitcoin by asking workers if they will receive Bitcoin as payment? How was it? This is actually the first time I will do such, all my mind was focused on, if I didn't see Bitcoin Payment Receive here I wouldn't bother.

Well, it's a good thing you did for the awareness of Bitcoin that Bitcoin is really used as a currency in the real world. Sometimes people do not believe in Bitcoin to buy things and goods and pay the workers as a wedge but you did it and I also recommend others to do so because it will spread awareness in the people and it is also easy for you to pay in just one or two taps rather go to banks etc. I always used to convince my friends to start cryptocurrency and invest in Bitcoin but they were afraid of these things, First crypto is banned in our country and second, they don't understand how it actually works as it's a digital currency. They said to me "What if lose our whole money because we have a small budget" then I started understanding crypto to them and at last they its not but a fairytale.  
Bitcoin has great potential as a money, and your efforts to promote its use are admirable. Digital advancements are changing our financial structures. Bitcoin is a movement, not just an item. A decentralised, peer-to-peer transaction system without banking intermediaries is innovative.

Many are sceptical. The unfamiliar, especially when it involves money, can be scary. However, Bitcoin's processes are based on a complex concept: the blockchain. This technology is transparent, secure, and immutable.

The hesitations people have, especially in places where crypto is not widespread, are genuine. But change is relentless, and early adopters frequently lead the way. Your efforts to teach and inspire them about Bitcoin will be visionary. In economics, innovation drives demand. And who knows? Bitcoin may soon be as popular as dollars and cents.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Etranger on August 29, 2023, 01:45:31 PM
.... and I also recommend others to do so because it will spread awareness in the people .... 

I would rather say not about spreading awareness among people, but about readiness to use bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general despite all the obstacles, even such as ban. I see this as a foundation for further development and distribution of crypto. People see many advantages in this and they are not stopped by circumstances. The more people who consider payments and settlements in cryptocurrency to be absolutely normal, the faster their use will reach a completely new level, when they create a very serious competition to traditional financial instruments.

why not share awareness for other people? specially those people who are close to you? imagine our family and friends who can afford to invest but we denied luring them to earn with us>?
i know that we must play safe outside , but not with our own circle of family and friends as they also deserve to earn from this market.



I have never said anything about not sharing with others. I think you misunderstood my post above.

I am not against spreading the information about crypto, however, I believe, you shouldn't involve uninterested people in this, even if it is your family. They deserve to earn from this market only if they show readiness and intention to learn. If it's just your desire to connect them to the topic and make them earn money, then nothing will work. A person must want this himself, this desire must come from within, and not be imposed from the outside. Nobody is pushing them off, but if they want to earn, they must make a first step.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Emmanuelex on August 29, 2023, 01:53:15 PM
Sure you're right about that, sometimes we should ask people what payment method they would like to accept. Although it all goes down to what situation you're into, because there are some situations where you would just have to pay cash and leave. But if you're in that position where you can pay can ask the question to know if they have any payment method of preference, then do it.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: Rabata on August 29, 2023, 03:52:34 PM
There are many of us who dream a lot about Bitcoin but we know nothing about it. There are very few people in the world who don't know about Bitcoin in this age. Those who have a good knowldge of Bitcoin are already making their dreams come true with it. If we ask, we will find people who are interested in investing in bitcoins among all of us.

But why we do not see those people despite being with us? The main reason for this is that we know that Bitcoin has not yet been legalized in most of the countries in the world. So many people are not able to accept payments directly in Bitcoin, even if they want. But Bitcoin is growing in popularity so much that it is establishing very smoothly without government support.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: xSkylarx on August 29, 2023, 04:16:51 PM
I lived in a third-world country where even when I wore my Bitcoin T-shirt, nobody noticed it or even thought it made me a head-turner, unlike us, who, if we just saw a Bitcoin logo in a store, tended to get curious about it. Also, I haven't tried asking if that person accepts Bitcoin as a payment out of joke since I do tend to say that they don't know it or have only heard of it but are not accepting it. Also, it is very different from before. I used to post on social media about Bitcoin and how I earn it from microtasks, but right now, just to be safe, I tend to keep quiet as a lot of people have eyes on you and will probably rob you.


Title: Re: I think we need to start asking people if......
Post by: tjtonmoy on August 29, 2023, 07:01:27 PM
People use it but don't really talk about it. Those who are connected with Bitcoin know that privacy is the first priority. For this reason, people won't go around telling people that they are involved in it. To me, that seems a valid reason to do so. Let me give you an example from my point of view. I live in a country where Bitcoin is banned. I can not freely use it or reveal my involvement in this. So protecting my privacy is my first priority. Owning bitcoin could get you into jail. For this, I never disclose this to others.
What if there's an enemy of mine waiting in the shadows just waiting for this opportunity to get me into trouble? I don't want to wind up in jail.

People have their own choices for keeping this a secret. But where it is legal and many people using it, I don't think that will be a problem. Asking people this out of the blue will only make you suspicious. So do what you can do being in limit. That's what I believe. But this story you share is really interesting. If we get the chance to ask people, there will be a lot of them who you can never imagine.