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Title: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Unknown01 on August 28, 2023, 09:30:10 AM
I read every day about a new superstar moving to the saudi league and I think this is slowly becoming a problem for European football. I grew up with the fact that all footballers in the world are pursuing the dream of playing football in a top European league at some point. For me, leagues like the Premiere League, La Liga, Seria A or the German Bundesliga are part of it. But even our weaker leagues were popular to players to prove themselves as good players.

The European clubs have also paid almost the best salaries or transfer fees worldwide. China has been able to attract a few good players like Iniesta or Hulk with high salaries, but these were just very few players. Since Ronaldo's move, we've been faced with the big problem that a lot of top players have followed him, some of whom are very young, and of course that's very good for the Saudi league, but European football is losing very important and great talents.

The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?

And while I was writing this, I read again about a new possible move: Mo Salah is said to move to Saudi Arabia for a transfer fee of €100m and a yearly earn of €200m. Just crazy!

Here is a list of well-known footballers who have already transferred:

To Al Hilal:
Neymar
Koulibaly
Milinkovic-Savic
Ruben Neves
Mitrovic
Bono

To Al-Ittihad:
Kanté
Benzema
Fabinho

To Al-Ahli:
Mendy
Firmino
Mahrez
Merih Demiral
Allan Saint-Maximin
Ibanez
Kessie

To Al-Nassr:
Ronaldo
Brozovic
Mané
Fofana
Alex Telles
Laporte

To Al-Ettifaq:
Moussa Dembelé
Henderson


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Mauser on August 28, 2023, 10:03:18 AM
The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?


This definitely has been a crazy year for football in the Middle East, so many big names transfered over there. The question now is what is going to happen in Europe, and my answer is that probably not much is going to change. First of all Europe can't compete against the prices offered in Saudi Arabia, these are state sponsored teams that receive direct money out of the oil trade. There is no real point in trying to compete and just let the players leave. As long as there is no direct tournaments between Europe and the middle east like letting them join champions league or other big cups I don't see a problem. The level of European football might fall for a while, but us eventually going to recover. What makes football so special in Europe or south America is the fans, there are million of people watching all the games and go to the stadium. Just because a few big names are now moving to Saudia Arabia it's not going to change the fan landscape. People follow their regional teams, because that is where they visit the stadium. Only a very small majority might consider rooting for a middle eastern team because their favorite player is transferring there. I think the hype some of these players will fade over time as some fans are angry towards the player for going so far away and selling out.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: swogerino on August 28, 2023, 10:09:30 AM
I think European football have enough good players to not feel all these leaving players to the Middle East.In there they have a lot of money and they now want to entertain themselves with football so they are offering astronomical amounts of money for a football player transfer.The only problem this creates is that now huge sums are being paid for such players and in Europe too when making a transfer or buying a new player will ask bigger amounts than usual,in fact in Italy are already complaining about this fact that they cannot buy a good player for the amount used before to buy such player.Other than this problem I don't think it will create as Europe has tons of great players still.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: tusandii on August 28, 2023, 10:26:44 AM
When Saudi clubs go crazy with having the audacity to use big budgets to sign top European players then the problem that might occur is that most of the top European players will prefer to play for Saudi clubs as opposed to playing for big European clubs, especially when the Saudis really get to play. get into the Champions League or have a League that is equivalent to the Champions League then it is likely that great players who are famous have no doubts to play there.
With the great interest in playing with Saudi clubs it will also be difficult for European clubs to get talented players because most of them prefer bigger fees.
Some rumors also state that there are European club coaches pressing FIFA to be able to regulate the issue of player transfers to Saudi clans so that in the future it can be more balanced with European club transfers.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Bitinity on August 28, 2023, 10:38:52 AM
Saudi League is still a new league and it is still not popular enough in the world but the power of money may bring them into something bigger than European leagues in the future. Point of view from players will also become a factor in this case, I mean if most players are money oriented then there will be much more players move to Saudi in the next few years. Not only players who are already old enough but young talented players may move there too because of money. However if players are still care about bigger achievement (not money only) then they will stay in European leagues. Everything is possible to happen, Saudi league may become bigger than most other European league in the future but it can be just a short hype as well.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: len01 on August 28, 2023, 10:40:51 AM
first of all, we all know how the popularity of european league has been known for a long time, which has been recognized that this is the biggest league, even though in a league it does not have star players on a certain team, it not be a problem and its popularity still continues because the teams in the European league already have a lot of fans even though there are no star player in the team.

I've read one of someone replies in the transfer thread in the past which reminds me that we forget how back when the European league developed its popularity to spend a lot of money to be part of biggest league in the world and this way is the same as what team in the SPL do to increasing their popularity they are able to spend a lot of money on european star player to improve the quality of football in Saudi arabia.

and regarding the concern that many star players have moved to Saudi Arabia, I think not all of them are young but these star players are almost old like Ronaldo and Benzema and for other european player there may still be young people but he is not a star player.

and now we will see, after the move of this star player, do we see a decrease in the quality of football in europe or is its popularity decreasing? I do not think so.
in fact there are still lots of fans and bettor who still watch every team match from european league.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: ultrloa on August 28, 2023, 10:44:00 AM
Yes indeed it can be a problem to European football league if more big football stars will transfer to Saudi league since that means the revenue will be lessen since all of the fans will transfer to watch and it can possibly affect the revenue generated by European league. If they cannot match the offer given by Saudi league then maybe we can see them being dominated and Saudi league will be the new famous one on football scene.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: LDL on August 28, 2023, 10:50:08 AM
Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar, Sadio Mane, Karim Benzema and many other players are currently transferring from European leagues to Saudi club leagues, which is gradually decreasing the popularity of European clubs. Basically, the football world likes to watch Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Sadio Mane, Karim Benzema play and their popularity is currently very high. So if these popular players are included in Saudi based clubs from European, EPL, Italian and Paris based clubs then the popularity of those clubs has decreased a lot. Now most of the football fans prefer to watch Saudi club games. Therefore, the addition of dozens of new players to Saudi club-based leagues has become a cause of concern for European clubs.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Sim_card on August 28, 2023, 10:58:03 AM
We see football as a means of entertainment but what we don't get straight is that some people are using it for business. The main purpose of setting up a business is for profit making. The clubs are selling to SPL because they need huge profit to take care of some expenses and even buy more players. It is like sell one and have the funds to buy two. The latest thing that I have observed is that players have also put money in their mind and believes that it is better to play in a club that can afford to pay them 3X their current pay,which makes them not think about either it is European league or not. It wouldn't be a problem to the European football because there are enough players in the world that can satisfy every strong league,as long as they can afford to pay the players. Saudi Arabia is buying players to create awareness in their league and to also use football to bring the world to their country for more firm. It will be fun if we have more weak leagues upgrading in football and drawing attention with the signing of world class players to the league.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: topbitcoin on August 28, 2023, 11:04:14 AM
I think European football have enough good players to not feel all these leaving players to the Middle East.In there they have a lot of money and they now want to entertain themselves with football so they are offering astronomical amounts of money for a football player transfer.The only problem this creates is that now huge sums are being paid for such players and in Europe too when making a transfer or buying a new player will ask bigger amounts than usual,in fact in Italy are already complaining about this fact that they cannot buy a good player for the amount used before to buy such player.Other than this problem I don't think it will create as Europe has tons of great players still.
It's true that Europe has a lot of good players. However, if Europe continues to let its top players move to the Middle East. This will boomerang itself for European football. The move of the mega star CR7 is a small example where Middle Eastern football is immediately eyed by the world community and likewise with investors who have started to switch to Middle Eastern football because they see a pretty good opportunity. and if this continues then sooner or later middle east football will become the toughest rival for european football.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Kemarit on August 28, 2023, 11:08:59 AM
I don't think it will be a problem for European football, I mean it's not the first time that we have seen this movement in sports. There are also like this is professional basketball in Asia, wherein there are a lot of movements to China, Korea and even Japan league from big players around that region.
And on the contrary, it might be good though, I mean up and coming stars in Europe will be given more time and so with that exposure, they could be the next Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar and other great football players. So they shouldn't take it as a negative though. And just to let you know, even in boxing, Saudi Arabia has become one of the hot spot as there are a lot of fights that are being held in that part, and obviously it's become of the huge money that they offer.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Shishir99 on August 28, 2023, 11:14:33 AM
It could be a problem for them. All those star players have a separate fan base, which is enormous. Their fan will watch their game and support their teams wherever they play. For example, Cristiano Ronaldo playing for Al Nassr and all his fans will watch their game. It will increase the demand od streaming their match on broadcasting companies and it will generate income for the Saudi league.

There are a couple of other factors as well. Clubs get money from selling jerseys as well. People also buy jerseys of their favorite players and teams. There are a couple of players who are top rated like Cristiano Ronaldo, Neymar Junior, and Lionel Messi. Two of them moved to Saudi Arabia and Messi moved to America. It's not a good sign for European football.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: avp2306 on August 28, 2023, 11:58:21 AM

The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?

The current transfers happening of big names on football industry means a lot from European league. If majority of famous stats are been transfered on Saudi then we can expect that European's might have a problem with current situation they are facing on. And since Saudi league is gaining hype due to current move they made then a high chance that they will be the main problem of European league especially they have capability to pay more  and attract which they think that can boost more the popularity of Saudi in football scene.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: iv4n on August 28, 2023, 12:50:29 PM
What money can do?! I don't think that European football will suffer, these big players are probably going just for money... a few seasons there will make them so rich and I see them leaving the football, or at least they will not play actively anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CN5OODrY8ak (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CN5OODrY8ak)

I saw some other shorts from recent Neimar & Mitrovic games... It's fun to watch, but I see it as some entertainment for Sheikhs and not like football. At least for now, if they continue buying coaches, players, and everything else maybe they can create some "super league".


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: $crypto$ on August 28, 2023, 01:04:43 PM
Europe will not be short of talented players young players are still in the development stage in some European clubs and that will be the keeper of their clubs in Europe, the Saudi League will not beat European league football this is very far although I know at this time many have begun to recognize the Saudi League because of the star players who moved there.

The average player who moves to the Sauid League is old and no longer needs to play in Europe.
I know the Arabs will continue to target other players because they have unlimited money.

After many players have flocked then next maybe some famous European coaches will follow in the same footsteps.

Roberto Mancini is currently the coach of the Saudi Arabian national team. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1695873293218181271


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: QueenVera on August 28, 2023, 01:16:43 PM
What money can do?! I don't think that European football will suffer, these big players are probably going just for money... a few seasons there will make them so rich and I see them leaving the football, or at least they will not play actively   

I saw some other shorts from recent Neimar & Mitrovic games... It's fun to watch, but I see it as some entertainment for Sheikhs and not like football. At least for now, if they continue buying coaches, players, and everything else maybe they can create some "super league".
Well I think it's a win for both parties, because the European players would help develop the league and make it more popular and the clubs pay huge fee for their services in return and also most of these players that's moved over to the Saudi clubs have already achieved alot in the European leagues so it's not really going to affect their career because they've already lots of trophies and football titles to their names for example the likes of  Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane, Benzema etc, these players are just there to make the league more famous help develop their country side players, make their cool cash and retire.
 And moreover the European clubs where they buy this players from are cashing out huge sum of money which they use in strengthening their teams, the only issue I could think of right now is the fact that most European coaches are saying their involvement in the transfer market is causing inflation and hike in player fees.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Cookdata on August 28, 2023, 01:50:54 PM

The European clubs have also paid almost the best salaries or transfer fees worldwide. China has been able to attract a few good players like Iniesta or Hulk with high salaries, but these were just very few players. Since Ronaldo's move, we've been faced with the big problem that a lot of top players have followed him, some of whom are very young, and of course that's very good for the Saudi league, but European football is losing very important and great talents.

The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?

Many players of today are here for the money but fear what people will say if they leave the European clubs for other ones, I remember back then how they attacked Iniesta, and Ahmed Musa for leaving the English Premier League clubs for Saudi Arabia and China but today, because Ronaldo has been considered the greatest of all time(goat) and decided to go for Al-Nasr, they follow suit because of the money, if had it been Ronaldo was still in European clubs, players like Benzema and other clown Chelsea players will never make a move to Saudi Arabia but look at how it is fast transforming.

As far as football is concerned, it's not going to be a threat to European clubs, remember back then, when Seria A was nothing, Ronaldo went there and gave them more Public interaction, that's what he is going to do at Saudi Arabia and more talented players will be found in both places. Just know that the Premier League will remain the most valuable league in the world, not by funding but by reputation.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Blitzboy on August 28, 2023, 01:53:54 PM
My friend, the world is changing. Due to globalization, money moves in previously unheard-of ways. Players are compelled to make decisions that protect their financial future when clubs in the Saudi league offer salaries that European clubs cannot match.

While it may be difficult to watch the familiar faces from European stadiums migrate to Saudi Arabia, this change may also be seen as a leveling of the playing field in the sport of football. For many years, European leagues dominated the sport; however, other leagues are catching up. Its merely the fundamental economics of supply and demand.

Regarding the future? Well, European football has a storied past, unparalleled infrastructure, and a well ingrained culture. While they might encounter opposition in the near future, I think European football's core values will hold up. Clubs will change, policy may alter, and tactics may alter.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Wiwo on August 28, 2023, 01:54:24 PM
What money can do?! I don't think that European football will suffer, these big players are probably going just for money... a few seasons there will make them so rich and I see them leaving the football, or at least they will not play actively   

I saw some other shorts from recent Neimar & Mitrovic games... It's fun to watch, but I see it as some entertainment for Sheikhs and not like football. At least for now, if they continue buying coaches, players, and everything else maybe they can create some "super league".
Well I think it's a win for both parties, because the European players would help develop the league and make it more popular and the clubs pay huge fee for their services in return and also most of these players that's moved over to the Saudi clubs have already achieved alot in the European leagues so it's not really going to affect their career because they've already lots of trophies and football titles to their names for example the likes of  Cristiano Ronaldo, Sadio Mane, Benzema etc, these players are just there to make the league more famous help develop their country side players, make their cool cash and retire.
 And moreover the European clubs where they buy this players from are cashing out huge sum of money which they use in strengthening their teams, the only issue I could think of right now is the fact that most European coaches are saying their involvement in the transfer market is causing inflation and hike in player fees.
It will be a bit sentimental to think that the European football will suffer from the numerous players transfers to the Saudi league this is because,  even though majority of the players that are transferred are big name in the European leagues it doesn't mean that those players are the only players that can deliver in Earopean football,  we have a lot of young players who are also doing well in the various clubs side and on the international leagues.

What I see is that,  the Earopean league/clubs side are well developed enough with good foundation that can easily propel them to success regardless pf the players as long as their is team work and energetic calculative players,  player like Christina Robaldo have created a world record name for themselves in the European league so it time to build the Saudi leagues this is also very important.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: romero121 on August 28, 2023, 02:01:01 PM
This is just a transition happening between two parts of the world. Europe is dominant for football and now the East Asian part have been working hard to improve its position in football. This at any cost doesn't affect the importance of the European League or its popularity. These are the Leagues that have developed the popular stars of football. Now they might've moved to other clubs for various reasons. This could improve football in other parts of the world. Creates opportunity for the emergence of new players who could be tomorrow's Ronaldo, Messi and Neymar. The transfer between teams could never be a problem, this is going to be relaxation for European teams that were suffering financial problems.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: ndutndut on August 28, 2023, 02:11:09 PM
I don't think Saudi Arabia has any intention of competing with European football because to be honest it's not that easy. But putting pressure on other Asian leagues is a genius observation. Plus, Russia might join Asia in the future.

Precisely this is the mission of the Saudi Pro League to become a league that is on par with leagues in Europe, with so many European players joining Saudi Arabia, of course it is not impossible that the Saudi Pro League will be on par with the Italian, English, Spanish, etc. But that does not mean the popularity of the European league will be beaten by the Asian League.

Btw, It all started with a Ronaldo, he was the first one to join Saudi Pro League before they got involved in massively recruiting European Players to increase their rating, popularity, give them more money, Economy, social media and much more in Saudi Arabia . To make the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga and others the worst or less competitive without bigger star players, I think this is an overblown fear. Because I think the stock of star players in Europe never runs out.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Westinhome on August 28, 2023, 02:25:16 PM
I don't think Saudi Arabia has any intention of competing with European football because to be honest it's not that easy. But putting pressure on other Asian leagues is a genius observation. Plus, Russia might join Asia in the future.

Precisely this is the mission of the Saudi Pro League to become a league that is on par with leagues in Europe, with so many European players joining Saudi Arabia, of course it is not impossible that the Saudi Pro League will be on par with the Italian, English, Spanish, etc. But that does not mean the popularity of the European league will be beaten by the Asian League.

Btw, It all started with a Ronaldo, he was the first one to join Saudi Pro League before they got involved in massively recruiting European Players to increase their rating, popularity, give them more money, Economy, social media and much more in Saudi Arabia . To make the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga and others the worst or less competitive without bigger star players, I think this is an overblown fear. Because I think the stock of star players in Europe never runs out.

Some players like Ronaldo was take part in the Saudi Arabia League and had some contract with the team till the end of league.After the league the people will back to their nation.This people are assets of the own nation,it was similar to the cricket game help by certain country with T20 matches.After the game,the people back to their own nation.The Saudi Arabia league is like the cricket league and not like the Ashes matches of England and Australia.Both league will hire the people for their game and made some collections,but the players is the assets of their own Nation.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Razmirraz on August 28, 2023, 02:37:24 PM

The European clubs have also paid almost the best salaries or transfer fees worldwide. China has been able to attract a few good players like Iniesta or Hulk with high salaries, but these were just very few players. Since Ronaldo's move, we've been faced with the big problem that a lot of top players have followed him, some of whom are very young, and of course that's very good for the Saudi league, but European football is losing very important and great talents.
FIFA is fully responsible for managing the international transfer system in consultation with the national associations in each country. The approach to FIFA began to be made after clubs in Europe were concerned about the financial influence that clubs in the Arab League had, several top coaches in Europe asked FIFA to take action on transfers made by the Arab League.
FIFA is urged to immediately address the buying and selling of players by clubs in the Arab League to cut or speed up transfer durations. The large amount of resources owned by Arab League clubs raises concerns for European clubs because when the European transfer window has closed, the buying and selling of players in the Saudi Arabian League is still wide open.

The transfers made by the Arab League have caused huge problems for clubs in Europe, now FIFA cannot take action because it is too late to make changes. Previously the transfer of the Chinese Super League was a problem for Europe's top clubs, the conditions experienced now are very different from the transfers made by the Chinese Super League because the finances owned by the Arab League are much larger.

The Arab League is creating a strong league atmosphere and so far they have been able to do so because they have sufficient resources. The Arab League has changed the transfer market, as long as the Arab League transfer market is not closed, clubs in Europe cannot rest easy because their players can still be kidnapped by Arab League clubs. FIFA must immediately act on the transfer policy of the Arab League, at least must apply Fair Play or adjust the duration of their transfer window with the European transfer market.

correction:
Andres Iniesta does not play in the Chinese League, he plays for the Vissel Kobe club which competes in the J League 1 or the Japanese League.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: X-ray on August 28, 2023, 02:52:24 PM
I don't think Saudi Arabia has any intention of competing with European football because to be honest it's not that easy. But putting pressure on other Asian leagues is a genius observation. Plus, Russia might join Asia in the future.
Slowly but surely saudi gonna be one of major football league in the world. Saudi has intention to make its league to be equal as european league. That's the main reason why saudi was asking UEFA to include the winner of SPL in the champion league.

Precisely this is the mission of the Saudi Pro League to become a league that is on par with leagues in Europe, with so many European players joining Saudi Arabia, of course it is not impossible that the Saudi Pro League will be on par with the Italian, English, Spanish, etc. But that does not mean the popularity of the European league will be beaten by the Asian League.
The main mission to help saudi to be considered as a potential country to host 2030 world cup. So much news has been also publishing this in the past.
Any league can co-exist. There's no need to beat each other.

Btw, It all started with a Ronaldo, he was the first one to join Saudi Pro League before they got involved in massively recruiting European Players to increase their rating, popularity, give them more money, Economy, social media and much more in Saudi Arabia . To make the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga and others the worst or less competitive without bigger star players, I think this is an overblown fear. Because I think the stock of star players in Europe never runs out.
Your argument doesn't make sense. European league was always producing the new star players. Ronaldo was old and saudi club becomes a retirement place for old player like ronaldo.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Queentoshi on August 28, 2023, 03:09:22 PM
I read every day about a new superstar moving to the saudi league and I think this is slowly becoming a problem for European football. I grew up with the fact that all footballers in the world are pursuing the dream of playing football in a top European league at some point. For me, leagues like the Premiere League, La Liga, Seria A or the German Bundesliga are part of it. But even our weaker leagues were popular to players to prove themselves as good players.
The Saudi professional league will slowly cement its place as one of the top leagues in the world where players would like to move to, but not right now. The players that have moved there will prepare the framework for it. But they will have to conform to rules that other European leagues follow, if they want to have the same recognition as they do. First one is adjusting the time for the transfer window, so it will in same duration and time with other European leagues, so they do not feel threatened by it.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: maydna on August 28, 2023, 04:23:31 PM
The club in the European League or any league with world class players will lose their best players if everyone decides to move to clubs in Saudi Arabia because clubs in Saudi Arabia can afford to pay world class players very expensively beyond what they are paid before. Anyone will be tempted by the fees obtained at clubs in Saudia Arabia. It is not surprising that the European League or other leagues will not be as attractive as before.

If the Europa League doesn't want to lose players, they should be able to pay at least a little more than what players could be paid if clubs in Saudia Arabia made their offers for those players. But that of course, will make European clubs and others will experience a budget deficit. Or European clubs must be able to get other more talented players through a very strict team acceptance selection to get talented players in their country.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: AmoreJaz on August 28, 2023, 05:16:19 PM
The club in the European League or any league with world class players will lose their best players if everyone decides to move to clubs in Saudi Arabia because clubs in Saudi Arabia can afford to pay world class players very expensively beyond what they are paid before. Anyone will be tempted by the fees obtained at clubs in Saudia Arabia. It is not surprising that the European League or other leagues will not be as attractive as before.

If the Europa League doesn't want to lose players, they should be able to pay at least a little more than what players could be paid if clubs in Saudia Arabia made their offers for those players. But that of course, will make European clubs and others will experience a budget deficit. Or European clubs must be able to get other more talented players through a very strict team acceptance selection to get talented players in their country.

if this trend will continue, european clubs will soon find themselves that their superstars are not on their league anymore. the saudi league is willing to give high fees to these athletes, so if the athlete will be practical on things, they will accept the offer for the time being, just to get that offer of a lifetime. but this will be a very good opportunity for the new young blood to enter on this sports, and show what they got for this sports.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: el kaka22 on August 28, 2023, 08:51:21 PM
I do not think so. I mean Europe has a standing cultural difference and that means that they are going to always come up with some new good players, plus the big teams will always have whoever they want, if a player gets 10 million offer from Real Madrid and 100 million from Saudi league, there is still a chance that kid may prefer real over Saudi, and that is with x10 more money, think about the silliness what if the Saudi league starts to pay less, nobody would go there ever.

Remember, just a year ago when Ronaldo was not there, these clubs did not offer this much money to players, and the league sucked, and the moment they realized they can't continue to pay like this, it will go back to being bad. The talent pool is not the same.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Teraboy on August 28, 2023, 10:19:15 PM
 think saudi league will grow, its already reflecting so much that its now gaining massive viewership increase after many acquisition of great figures and maybe in the future things will just become better and better.
but we should know that europe league is the one that produces these stars, though it can't be denied that if saudi willing to spend so much money for the sake of moving the starts over.
eventually they would become major league, they've got the money to do so.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Davidvictorson on August 28, 2023, 10:34:02 PM
No, transfers to the Saudi league will have no problems with Europe. The players moving to Saudi Arabia are mostly senior players who have least than 5 years until retirement. Right now the best players are still incubating. They are young, want to make name for themselves. Win important trophies. Haven't you noticed that the players being picked by the Suadis are those who have won something in the other leagues.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Renampun on August 28, 2023, 11:31:27 PM
of course that will be a big problem for european football, even though those who go to the arab league are only old european players but in the future there will be many star players in europe who are only interested in playing in the arab league because the pay there is quite big, apart from that a shift in fans will occur, even though there are also many fans who only idolize a team but there are also quite a few fans who only idolize a player, when the player they idolize moves to the Arab league then they will idolize the team that bought their idol player.

European football has long been a benchmark for world football, with crazy transfers by Arab football, I am sure that in the future this transition will happen.



Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: ralle14 on August 29, 2023, 02:01:23 AM
I think this is an overblown fear. Because I think the stock of star players in Europe never runs out.
I agree there are still a lot of European leagues aside from the top five that we're mostly familiar with.

While some of the big players are getting transferred, this also gives other players more opportunity (minutes) to play and see new players improve. It only looks concerning because the big leagues lost a lot of good players, but as the others have said, it's only a matter of time until we see the other players step up and likely fill the slot of these big players.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Zlantann on August 29, 2023, 02:25:51 AM
Yes indeed it can be a problem to European football league if more big football stars will transfer to Saudi league since that means the revenue will be lessen since all of the fans will transfer to watch and it can possibly affect the revenue generated by European league. If they cannot match the offer given by Saudi league then maybe we can see them being dominated and Saudi league will be the new famous one on football scene.
Many companies especially those that have an interest in the Middle East and the Arab world will prefer to invest in the Saudi League which was not the case before when their focus was always on European leagues. Many football fans see most of these players who move to the SPL as their hero and role model, this will make them switch loyalty to the Saudi league. This will affect the television or broadcasting revenue of the European league.

The Saudi League has also distorted the transfer market in Europe. Clubs like Al-Hilal, Al Nassr, and Al-Ittihad are willing to pay double or sometimes triple what some European clubs can afford. This has made the transfer market more inflated and many low-income clubs might not be able to buy good players. Many young and experienced players prefer to move to the money-spinning league in the Middle East than to play in top clubs in Europe. If the Saudi league continues this way, it will keep improving and one day the league might be part of the European Champions League


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Gallar on August 29, 2023, 03:28:51 AM
~Snip
To be honest, I was also surprised by what happened in the Saudi Arabian league transfer market. Because in this year's transfer season, clubs from the Saudi Arabian league were able to bring in top players from Europe. So you could say Saudi Arabia is currently in the spotlight of the world of football. Maybe all of this was based on Ronaldo's joining Al Nassr and coupled with a fantastic salary. Maybe because of this, many players from European clubs decided to want to join the Saudi Arabian club.

but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?
In my personal opinion, football in Europe will still be a spectacle for the majority of football fans in the world. Because even though many big players like Ronaldo and Neymar have moved to the Saudi Arabian league, the European league will definitely survive and remain popular among football lovers. Because we all know that football in Europe has been known for a long time. Plus every year there are always great players that emerge. So in terms of quality, fans and potential, the European league for now will definitely continue to shine.

Unless the Saudi Arabian league continues to consistently build its football league very well, and continues to bring in great players from Europe. Most likely, the audience in the saudi arabia league will increase in number. But I don't think one league will be enough to beat the European league. Because even in Europe there are several very famous football leagues. So for now, in conclusion, the European league will still be fine.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: maydna on August 29, 2023, 02:21:28 PM
~snip~
if this trend will continue, european clubs will soon find themselves that their superstars are not on their league anymore. the saudi league is willing to give high fees to these athletes, so if the athlete will be practical on things, they will accept the offer for the time being, just to get that offer of a lifetime. but this will be a very good opportunity for the new young blood to enter on this sports, and show what they got for this sports.
And everything will move to the Saudi Arabian league so that football trends will also move to the Middle East so that European clubs will find it difficult to develop again. The players who get offers to play in the Saudi Arabian leagues will not waste their offers because the offers can exceed what they get so they will play at these clubs.

Saudi Arabia may also build a football field bigger than European countries and create its own tournament. And if it succeeds in attracting visitors from outside Saudi Arabia to watch the tournament, it will be additional income for the country.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Yogee on August 29, 2023, 03:39:26 PM
No, transfers to the Saudi league will have no problems with Europe. The players moving to Saudi Arabia are mostly senior players who have least than 5 years until retirement. Right now the best players are still incubating. They are young, want to make name for themselves. Win important trophies. Haven't you noticed that the players being picked by the Suadis are those who have won something in the other leagues.
Maybe not in the near future but don't you think veteran and accomplished players moving there is just a precedent? It started with Ronaldo and then followed by other well-known players so what's the chance of younger players with great potential to sign with any of these Saudi teams? You made a good point about accomplishing something first and Europe is probably the best place to achieve that but the Saudi is also growing. There's the possibility that more sponsors could be moving there.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: bitLeap on August 29, 2023, 04:26:29 PM
The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?
The European Football Competition will survive, but we also cannot blame Saudi Arabia for bombarding top players, even to blame the players' decisions is not necessary. Let's just let Saudi Arabia enjoy the long cycle of world football led by Europe. Maybe it's time for Europe to clean up and start evaluating policies that as much as possible for the top players to maintain their presence in Europe. I think this is a challenge for Europe to just make peace with Saudi Arabia and recognize Middle East finances.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Aikidoka on August 29, 2023, 04:59:43 PM
I believe that many well known players, like Ronaldo, tend to consider ending their careers especially in leagues such as the Saudi league, especially in Middle Eastern countries, China, or even the US. These options are highly appealing due to the good salaries they offer, and these players would continue to receive much attention since they're famous worldwide.

In the case of Ronaldo, I think he has expressed positive sentiments about the Saudi league, noting that he feels content being a part of that team as far as I know.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Shishir99 on August 30, 2023, 12:13:09 AM
I don't think Saudi Arabia has any intention of competing with European football because to be honest it's not that easy. But putting pressure on other Asian leagues is a genius observation. Plus, Russia might join Asia in the future.

I would say Saudi Arabia has the intention to compete with the other football leagues. They are spending way too much money that others could offer to those players. They already offered Mohammed Salah a huge amount that Salah might not refuse even though Salah's manager already said they are not going to leave Liverpool. If Liverpool gets enough money to bring in more players, they might release Salah as well.

Saudi Arabia has a target to become a host of the Football World Cup. So you should understand where they are investing right now. The players are not profitable at this moment because they are not making huge money from their league. Not even close compared to how much they have invested.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: uneng on August 30, 2023, 01:07:54 AM
Soccer players are like mercenaries. They go to the side which offers the most generous offer. If arabian soccer industry is able to afford top tier players in the world, of course the Saudi league is going to take protagonism in global soccer, finally overcoming european ones. It's early to say it yet, but without any doubts there is a clear tendency being drawn here: the downfall of european soccer and the rise of the east.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 30, 2023, 06:12:46 AM
Soccer players are like mercenaries. They go to the side which offers the most generous offer. If arabian soccer industry is able to afford top tier players in the world, of course the Saudi league is going to take protagonism in global soccer, finally overcoming european ones. It's early to say it yet, but without any doubts there is a clear tendency being drawn here: the downfall of european soccer and the rise of the east.
That's true and that's why if those footballers all chose to move to the Saudi League, it would change the face of football and there is a possibility that European leagues would suffer a setback. And it will be a new chapter for the football league, Europe, and the whole world. And we will see a revival of the Saudi League and it will compete with the Europa League but if all those top footballers move to the Saudi League, the Europa League will struggle to cope.

Maybe the Europa League can look for talented players in their countries. Still, it will obviously take time so the Europa League may experience a shortage of talented players and will only use existing players. And we will see what will happen with the leagues around the world, whether there will be offers from the Saudi League or only taking players from the European League.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on August 30, 2023, 06:34:39 AM
Money speaking!

The Saudi Professional League is a very attractive league now, especially for those who have already built their career in football. As it is now, this league is trying to woo the well-known footballers into it and I see nothing bad in that. There are no FIFA and other governing bodies' rules at present that prohibit such, once the bargain is reached, a deal would be struck.

Yet, it might later be a competition between Europe and Saudi over time, particularly on preferred players. This will only increase the demand for some targeted players and shoot the price higher if it persists. And note that forces of the three parties involved will always play out, the Saudi, EPL/Others and players involved.

None can also force the other to go or hold back if there is no bidding contract between them.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Webetcoins on August 31, 2023, 07:08:19 AM
This definitely has been a crazy year for football in the Middle East, so many big names transfered over there. The question now is what is going to happen in Europe, and my answer is that probably not much is going to change. First of all Europe can't compete against the prices offered in Saudi Arabia, these are state sponsored teams that receive direct money out of the oil trade. There is no real point in trying to compete and just let the players leave. As long as there is no direct tournaments between Europe and the middle east like letting them join champions league or other big cups I don't see a problem. The level of European football might fall for a while, but us eventually going to recover. What makes football so special in Europe or south America is the fans, there are million of people watching all the games and go to the stadium. Just because a few big names are now moving to Saudia Arabia it's not going to change the fan landscape. People follow their regional teams, because that is where they visit the stadium. Only a very small majority might consider rooting for a middle eastern team because their favorite player is transferring there. I think the hype some of these players will fade over time as some fans are angry towards the player for going so far away and selling out.
You are so very wrong about the mindset of the fans regarding this matter. European clubs have had these huge fan followings only because the clubs had their favorite players. A fan of Cristiano Ronaldo wouldn't be rooting for Juventus now when Ronaldo isn't a part of the team, similarly, every single player that moves out of a club basically takes his fan following with him to the other club that he joins no matter which continent he moves to and that is a fact.

So, all these players moving from Europe to the Middle East will have a huge impact on the fan following of the European Leagues and clubs that they've been a part of. We can already see this but this will be more evident in the times to come. So these transfers are also going to cause a plunge in the attendants at stadiums of European leagues for sure.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: borovichok on August 31, 2023, 07:33:17 AM
Money speaking!

The Saudi Professional League is a very attractive league now, especially for those who have already built their career in football. As it is now, this league is trying to woo the well-known footballers into it and I see nothing bad in that. There are no FIFA and other governing bodies' rules at present that prohibit such, once the bargain is reached, a deal would be struck.

Yet, it might later be a competition between Europe and Saudi over time, particularly on preferred players. This will only increase the demand for some targeted players and shoot the price higher if it persists. And note that forces of the three parties involved will always play out, the Saudi, EPL/Others and players involved.

None can also force the other to go or hold back if there is no bidding contract between them.
Money is everything for these players; this is not the historical era of football, when players played for their passion of the game; alternatively, it is the contemporary era, where players play for the enormous payments they receive. This summer, the Saudi Pro League is bringing in substantial and famous big names. It's more like shifting your concentration from the impending league to the realm of popularity league. They emerged into the enormous space of European football when they first signed Cristiano Ronaldo, an established player in Europe; this maneuver was advantageous for them because his presence created additional opportunities for bringing in good European players with minimal efforts to date.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 31, 2023, 07:38:34 AM
This is crossing a limit. Why these Europeans always behave like cry-babies? No one ever complained when a lot of Asian, Latin American and African players decided to opt for the UEFA leagues instead of their own local leagues. Leagues in countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Japan and Nigeria suffered as a result of this. However no one ever published any news articles examining the negatives that non-European leagues had to deal with. Now the Saudi clubs are giving Europeans a taste of their own medicine and suddenly there is so much hue and cry. There can be no better example for hypocrisy.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: 8rch7 on August 31, 2023, 07:59:10 AM
Before mega transfer to Saudi Pro League teams there are many players move to Chinese Super League but its not defend for long time until several Chinese Super teams got bankrupt and many player back to European. Seems almost the same with Saudi Pro League although they have much money than Chinese Super League teams but have moment with European football won' to play there.
Not all football agree playing for the money because many of them want to play with passion and push up their career to be top player, they have motivation winning as many possible trophies still in the young age and retired one day later with teams want to pay bigger salary. Have been two season with Saudi League most interested, I don't think will extend for several years later because if still have much money some European football want to priority their career than earn much money.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Synchronice on August 31, 2023, 08:07:15 AM
I think European football have enough good players to not feel all these leaving players to the Middle East.In there they have a lot of money and they now want to entertain themselves with football so they are offering astronomical amounts of money for a football player transfer.The only problem this creates is that now huge sums are being paid for such players and in Europe too when making a transfer or buying a new player will ask bigger amounts than usual,in fact in Italy are already complaining about this fact that they cannot buy a good player for the amount used before to buy such player.Other than this problem I don't think it will create as Europe has tons of great players still.
At the moment European football clubs have good players but this talk is about the long-term strategy that Middle Easterners have. Footballers like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar are no ordinary players and they have a huge fanbase. In fact, a lot of people were fan of Barcelona and Real Madrid because of Messi and Ronaldo. So, if they steal a lot of players with high influence, European football won't be as popular as it was earlier and that's definitely a danger.
I really wonder, how much are these guys earning from oil business that they are able to spend billions of dollars like it's nothing while Europeans have to work really very hard to get wealthy.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Bitinity on August 31, 2023, 08:23:20 AM
The club in the European League or any league with world class players will lose their best players if everyone decides to move to clubs in Saudi Arabia because clubs in Saudi Arabia can afford to pay world class players very expensively beyond what they are paid before. Anyone will be tempted by the fees obtained at clubs in Saudia Arabia. It is not surprising that the European League or other leagues will not be as attractive as before.

If the Europa League doesn't want to lose players, they should be able to pay at least a little more than what players could be paid if clubs in Saudia Arabia made their offers for those players. But that of course, will make European clubs and others will experience a budget deficit. Or European clubs must be able to get other more talented players through a very strict team acceptance selection to get talented players in their country.

if this trend will continue, european clubs will soon find themselves that their superstars are not on their league anymore. the saudi league is willing to give high fees to these athletes, so if the athlete will be practical on things, they will accept the offer for the time being, just to get that offer of a lifetime. but this will be a very good opportunity for the new young blood to enter on this sports, and show what they got for this sports.

It may continue but I think it will be for few years only, as I said previously, it is just like a hype/trend only. Remember when there was similar moment in the past when some European players decided to move to Chinese Super League? I think what is happening now is just the same as that moment. Although Saudi Pro league is offering higher salary for star players but the prestige and the pride will always bigger in European leagues.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: sana54210 on August 31, 2023, 04:44:45 PM
I do not think that it will be a "problem", they are sending the players they do not want and nobody else wants to Saudi clubs to make as much profit as they possibly could from these players, that's a good thing and not a bad thing if you ask me. I know that some people may give a few names that were good and not just unwanted players but those are still rare and those still cost a ton of money, like unheard of amounts of money.

Saudis could continue to pay players that much money, but it all comes out of the kings family, and that is why it is going to be tough to keep doing this. I bet that they are going to change somethings in the future and they will not be happy with the result when the time comes as well.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Huppercase on August 31, 2023, 05:13:28 PM
Money is everything for these players; this is not the historical era of football, when players played for their passion of the game; alternatively, it is the contemporary era, where players play for the enormous payments they receive. This summer, the Saudi Pro League is bringing in substantial and famous big names. It's more like shifting your concentration from the impending league to the realm of popularity league. They emerged into the enormous space of European football when they first signed Cristiano Ronaldo, an established player in Europe; this maneuver was advantageous for them because his presence created additional opportunities for bringing in good European players with minimal efforts to date.

There are other players that value dignity over money and that was what Messi did when he was offered a whooping deal of $500m per season to come to Saudi Arabia, 2 years deal could go to $1B but man turn down the deal, today he would have been the highest paid player in the word, even Ronaldo didn't have that high value, Mbape didn't come close, they knew how valuable Messi and used money to attract him but he humbly refuse but instead went to Inter Miami, the worst team in MLS with $150M for 2 and half years with a share from the club, aside from been the greatest player, he also won people's heart for been humble.

The players that are going there shouldn't be blame, who see money and ignore it for the passion you have, I just think that Saudi Arabia are over stretching deals in other to capture the players but there is nothing wrong in players decisions though, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, and Drogba era were ballistic but the pays weren't great like that but yet they played, won Balon D'or and World cup but players like Mbape had fame when they are little and have enjoyed the privilege of European clubs, now that Saudia Arabia has step up their game, I don't see it as bad idea for players to earn money, passion and money goes together.

In addition, inflation has affected all price of items, players are not excluded, the amount players were been sold last season are different from now, if they don't increase these payments, the interest will not come from the players and Saudi knows that having this money on the table is the only way they can push the agenda of bringing those players to Saudi Arabia.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on August 31, 2023, 05:47:55 PM
I read every day about a new superstar moving to the saudi league and I think this is slowly becoming a problem for European football. I grew up with the fact that all footballers in the world are pursuing the dream of playing football in a top European league at some point. For me, leagues like the Premiere League, La Liga, Seria A or the German Bundesliga are part of it. But even our weaker leagues were popular to players to prove themselves as good players.

The European clubs have also paid almost the best salaries or transfer fees worldwide. China has been able to attract a few good players like Iniesta or Hulk with high salaries, but these were just very few players. Since Ronaldo's move, we've been faced with the big problem that a lot of top players have followed him, some of whom are very young, and of course that's very good for the Saudi league, but European football is losing very important and great talents.

The current year is the first year where so many players change at the same time, if this should continue for another 2-3 years I can well imagine that Europe will run out of good and well-known footballers. With the salaries that are paid, it is also understandable for me that the footballers change and the clubs sell the players, but how do you think the whole thing will continue? Will European football lose its special position?

And while I was writing this, I read again about a new possible move: Mo Salah is said to move to Saudi Arabia for a transfer fee of €100m and a yearly earn of €200m. Just crazy!

Here is a list of well-known footballers who have already transferred:

To Al Hilal:
Neymar
Koulibaly
Milinkovic-Savic
Ruben Neves
Mitrovic
Bono

To Al-Ittihad:
Kanté
Benzema
Fabinho

To Al-Ahli:
Mendy
Firmino
Mahrez
Merih Demiral
Allan Saint-Maximin
Ibanez
Kessie

To Al-Nassr:
Ronaldo
Brozovic
Mané
Fofana
Alex Telles
Laporte

To Al-Ettifaq:
Moussa Dembelé
Henderson

Almost all the aforementioned players have made a meaningful impact in the various leagues and clubs they played for. They are close to retirement and have seen it all. They might not have won the awards or trophy they desired, but in one way or another, endorsement deals and a good name have been made, what's more to add if not more money till retirement?

With these transfers to the Saudi league, no doubt the improvement in the Saudi pro league would be felt by all, because these transfers are mostly for experienced players.
I believe if you see the house recently occupied by Neymar and his family, you would get to understand why the money move and soft life makes sense.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: sokani on August 31, 2023, 06:50:10 PM
I don't see this as a problem to the european clubs, some of those players that moved to the SPL are old and have passed their peak while others have limited game time at their former clubs. It is the dream of every player to play at the biggest club in the world and to compete at the highest level, the champions league is still the biggest competition as long as football is concern. Not every player will be swayed by the fat pockets of the Saudis, Mbappe proved it when he turned down the lucrative deal from Al Hilal because he wants to be in europe. BTW europe has a lot of talents so no matter the numbers of players that are leaving there's still going to more players to retake their spots, also Financial Fair Play (FFP) might step in to control the transfer activities of the Saudi Arabian clubs.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: alastantiger on August 31, 2023, 09:02:59 PM
Before I go ahead to make my comments, I have a very crucial question to ask on this matter that is, if the European clubs paid as good as their Saudi counterparts, would it discourage the players from moving there? Well, I do not see any problem with this , these players moved from smaller clubs to the European clubs to get the fat paycheck and the exposure and now they are moving to Saudi Arabia for the pay and improve their league. Nothing bad here just the circle of football life happening. But the Saudis should know that they will need to hire the best coaches out of their jobs to get their league to be able to compete on the world stage.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on August 31, 2023, 09:41:12 PM
I feel it'll become a big problem in future... I was just thinking of this some time ago until i got into this post... The Arabians are tryna wheel the attention and fame of the whole European football to themselves - But they all thought between themselves that it's not possible without inducing fascinating offers to European licensed footballers - now, the effects is oozing rapidly...
I believe that's Thier target, especially since they're also on multi billion projects that are anticipated 2030. Except there are ways to curb the transfer actions, boundaries are required immediately.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Casdinyard on August 31, 2023, 10:40:24 PM
It would be for sure. They are reeling in powerhouses of players which will definitely show in the performance of European Football moving forward. It would even affect its viewership since now, if you want to watch your idols play you'd have to tune in to the Saudi League instead of waiting for these new bloods from the European League to ripen up and be on par with the veterans. In any case this doesn't mean that the European League is done for. It's well established enough to suffer such defeat so I think the transfer of these players to newer leagues would incite major hiccups in the viewership and performance of the European League, but overtime the skill and anticipation of the people will catch up with it again.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: TelolettOm on August 31, 2023, 11:50:02 PM
It may continue but I think it will be for few years only, as I said previously, it is just like a hype/trend only. Remember when there was similar moment in the past when some European players decided to move to Chinese Super League? I think what is happening now is just the same as that moment. Although Saudi Pro league is offering higher salary for star players but the prestige and the pride will always bigger in European leagues.
It is totally different with the hype of European players moving to Chinese league. Saudi clubs did something much bigger than Chinese league. They have almost unlimited money to pay the transfer fees and players' salaries. So, even super stars players like Ronaldo, Benzema, and Neymar wants to accept Saudi clubs offers. As long as Saudi clubs can give big money to European players, I assume this hype will last a long time. Unless there is a regulation that will limit the funds of each Saudi club to sign new players. If there is a such regulation, Saudi clubs may be difficult to attract top players from Europe leagues to come to SPL.



Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 01, 2023, 03:10:31 AM
It is totally different with the hype of European players moving to Chinese league. Saudi clubs did something much bigger than Chinese league. They have almost unlimited money to pay the transfer fees and players' salaries. So, even super stars players like Ronaldo, Benzema, and Neymar wants to accept Saudi clubs offers. As long as Saudi clubs can give big money to European players, I assume this hype will last a long time. Unless there is a regulation that will limit the funds of each Saudi club to sign new players. If there is a such regulation, Saudi clubs may be difficult to attract top players from Europe leagues to come to SPL.

The intent is also different. The Chinese were hoping that when star overseas players participate in the national league, the local players will benefit form it and learn tactics from them. But it never worked out that way. A number of foreign players landed in China, but even after many years that didn't resulted in any appreciable rise in quality of play among the local players. One of the reasons that I could assume is that the style of play of these foreign players is not that suitable for the local Chinese players. Anyway, Saudi Arabia is not trying to repeat this mistake. Their primary aim is to make that country a global sporting hub.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: len01 on September 01, 2023, 04:16:58 AM
It would be for sure. They are reeling in powerhouses of players which will definitely show in the performance of European Football moving forward. It would even affect its viewership since now, if you want to watch your idols play you'd have to tune in to the Saudi League instead of waiting for these new bloods from the European League to ripen up and be on par with the veterans. In any case this doesn't mean that the European League is done for. It's well established enough to suffer such defeat so I think the transfer of these players to newer leagues would incite major hiccups in the viewership and performance of the European League, but overtime the skill and anticipation of the people will catch up with it again.
as I said before that the large transfers carried out by teams from the SPL do not mean to give bad things to the European league. I mean, even though many star players were bought by teams from Saudi Arabia, that does not mean the league in Europe will lose its popularity because Europe is already very well established in terms of popularity and it is known throughout the country that the European league is the biggest football league in the world, so even though it lost several star players will not be a problem for teams in Europe and will still have many fans and spectators who will watch every match.

and the efforts of teams from the SPL are the same as teams in Europe in the past when they increased their popularity before they could be known throughout the country and this will be mutually beneficial between teams from Europe and teams from the SPL when European teams get big profits from offers of money with large values and the saudi arabia team got the star player they wanted and to be honest i support this.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: poodle63 on September 01, 2023, 05:29:59 AM
BTW europe has a lot of talents so no matter the numbers of players that are leaving there's still going to more players to retake their spots, also Financial Fair Play (FFP) might step in to control the transfer activities of the Saudi Arabian clubs.
It's hard to imagine that. In fact, saudi club have been spending billions to buy the new players from european continent, but FIFA was not even commenting it. Numerous complaints about saudi's aggressive transfers have been appearing but i remind you that there was no FFP in saudi pro league.
It's different with EUFA that was implementing FFP for european club while saudi can spend as much as possible to buy the new players. I do not even think we will see FFP to be implemented into the SPL.

We will not see FIFA to take a further step to pervent saudi caused by money talks much in this case.



Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: beerlover on September 01, 2023, 07:08:11 PM
BTW europe has a lot of talents so no matter the numbers of players that are leaving there's still going to more players to retake their spots, also Financial Fair Play (FFP) might step in to control the transfer activities of the Saudi Arabian clubs.
It's hard to imagine that. In fact, saudi club have been spending billions to buy the new players from european continent, but FIFA was not even commenting it. Numerous complaints about saudi's aggressive transfers have been appearing but i remind you that there was no FFP in saudi pro league.
It's different with EUFA that was implementing FFP for european club while saudi can spend as much as possible to buy the new players. I do not even think we will see FFP to be implemented into the SPL.

We will not see FIFA to take a further step to pervent saudi caused by money talks much in this case.
This is the reason, when one place has no rule against the financial situation and they can buy anyone at any price they want, it is obvious that they are going to end up with a good result one way or another. I think it should be important to notice that it is going to be fine for them.

I still do not think that it is a big deal though, it costs them way too much to get a player compared to other places, they still have to get players for much more money if they want to get them. Look at Ronaldo, it was a good "business" decision to get him, which opened the door for other players, but he is getting paid unreal amount of money, it shouldn't be possible for single player to get that much money if you ask me.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Unknown01 on September 01, 2023, 08:36:17 PM
I feel it'll become a big problem in future... I was just thinking of this some time ago until i got into this post... The Arabians are tryna wheel the attention and fame of the whole European football to themselves - But they all thought between themselves that it's not possible without inducing fascinating offers to European licensed footballers - now, the effects is oozing rapidly...
I believe that's Thier target, especially since they're also on multi billion projects that are anticipated 2030. Except there are ways to curb the transfer actions, boundaries are required immediately.

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Yes, so the majority here is of the same opinion that Saudi Arabia wants to become a football powerhouse and can also be dangerous for European football. The only positive thing at the moment is that Uefa has ruled out Saudi clubs being allowed to participate in European competitions such as the Champions League. If they were also allowed to take part in the CL, it would be very bad for our football.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: slapper on September 02, 2023, 12:32:36 AM
BTW europe has a lot of talents so no matter the numbers of players that are leaving there's still going to more players to retake their spots, also Financial Fair Play (FFP) might step in to control the transfer activities of the Saudi Arabian clubs.
It's hard to imagine that. In fact, saudi club have been spending billions to buy the new players from european continent, but FIFA was not even commenting it. Numerous complaints about saudi's aggressive transfers have been appearing but i remind you that there was no FFP in saudi pro league.
It's different with EUFA that was implementing FFP for european club while saudi can spend as much as possible to buy the new players. I do not even think we will see FFP to be implemented into the SPL.

We will not see FIFA to take a further step to pervent saudi caused by money talks much in this case.
This is the reason, when one place has no rule against the financial situation and they can buy anyone at any price they want, it is obvious that they are going to end up with a good result one way or another. I think it should be important to notice that it is going to be fine for them.

I still do not think that it is a big deal though, it costs them way too much to get a player compared to other places, they still have to get players for much more money if they want to get them. Look at Ronaldo, it was a good "business" decision to get him, which opened the door for other players, but he is getting paid unreal amount of money, it shouldn't be possible for single player to get that much money if you ask me.
Without financial regulations, clubs can buy any player. Is it sustainable? Not always. Football isn't a transaction, yet huge amounts may attract players. Sport thrives on passion, dedication, and talent. To call it a business arrangement devalues the game. It's naive to think Ronaldo's purchase was a "business" choice. Despite his high salary, do you consider his global appeal, charm, and brand value? Though I agree, paying exorbitant amounts for athletes sets a dangerous precedent. Despite this nonsense, globalization has had a major impact on football. We love seeing football become global, but we don't want Saudi to follow China's example of massive investments and no football culture


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 02, 2023, 01:43:34 PM
Soccer players are like mercenaries. They go to the side which offers the most generous offer. If arabian soccer industry is able to afford top tier players in the world, of course the Saudi league is going to take protagonism in global soccer, finally overcoming european ones. It's early to say it yet, but without any doubts there is a clear tendency being drawn here: the downfall of european soccer and the rise of the east.


Well, it's a very good comparison, don't forget that it sounds very good, but you also have to be something, we put ourselves in the shoes of a soccer player and I would be one, who would go to Saudi Arabia because I know there is a good level football and I know that with just one contract I can achieve many things in life, with just one, and I will be more valued, in Europe things are tougher, firstly because of the payment, secondly because if they don't want to put you in they leave you on the bench the whole season, so that is something that is useless, because only going to train so that later he does not have to play because they prefer a more famous player, so that does not make sense to me, it makes sense is my career as a professional soccer player and between more minutes of play have much better for the career of any player, so they must be based on that so that they can have a superior performance, in the case of Saudi soccer they take advantage of all talent, for now they are hiring veterans, veterans that they Discarded in Europe that did not treat them very well, it is a pity that Messi would have preferred to go to the MLS and not Saudi football, perhaps if he had chosen Saudi football he would have wanted to play another world cup , but let's see , it is never too late and many things they can pass and become good, I hope that Messi is not like all the footballers who enter the MLS where they just go and retire.

I think the younger players and those who are promises from some countries are seeing Saudi football as one of the best options, first of all because there are the star Players who have always marked football, the fact that they are not in Europe and Do not play a UCL because it is the only thing, although everything can change in the future, so Europe has to do many things, such as increase the money Offers , which I know will never be Able to match those made by the Saudis, so that is a limitation , I also see that all the football leadership, the media are turning to the Saudi side , that is Already something quite big.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: gabbie2010 on September 02, 2023, 02:03:58 PM
I read every day about a new superstar moving to the saudi league and I think this is slowly becoming a problem for European football. I grew up with the fact that all footballers in the world are pursuing the dream of playing football in a top European league at some point. For me, leagues like the Premiere League, La Liga, Seria A or the German Bundesliga are part of it. But even our weaker leagues were popular to players to prove themselves as good players.
This can't be a problem for European league because the bulk of those players are already at the peak of their career,  majority of those players can't enjoy a starting lineup in their former clubs respectively, they are rather unused substitute eg  Mahrez, Mendy, Koulibaly etc, most importantly they opted to play in Saudi Arabian league based on the lucrative wages paid by the clubs playing for few more seasons before retirement would in the long run empower them financially.


Since Ronaldo's move, we've been faced with the big problem that a lot of top players have followed him, some of whom are very young, and of course that's very good for the Saudi league, but European football is losing very important and great talents.
I don't think there are young players that would prefer the Saudi Arabian club to the European clubs we had read few offers to some of the best players in Europe which was turned down or rejected, Mbappe, Osimen etc were offered a mouthwatering offer but were rejected.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: maydna on September 02, 2023, 04:23:15 PM
I read every day about a new superstar moving to the saudi league and I think this is slowly becoming a problem for European football. I grew up with the fact that all footballers in the world are pursuing the dream of playing football in a top European league at some point. For me, leagues like the Premiere League, La Liga, Seria A or the German Bundesliga are part of it. But even our weaker leagues were popular to players to prove themselves as good players.
This can't be a problem for European league because the bulk of those players are already at the peak of their career,  majority of those players can't enjoy a starting lineup in their former clubs respectively, they are rather unused substitute eg  Mahrez, Mendy, Koulibaly etc, most importantly they opted to play in Saudi Arabian league based on the lucrative wages paid by the clubs playing for few more seasons before retirement would in the long run empower them financially.
No one knows whether this will be for the European leagues or whether the European leagues will still be fine with it. But sooner or later, the European leagues can lose their talented players because they have received offers from the Saudi league, where they can earn a higher salary than if they lived in their country. Many players want to earn high wages, even if it means leaving their clubs, they will probably want to do it. If a player retires, the Saudi league will have its target players who will be given offers to play in the Saudi league, and those who see the offer numbers will be tempted to move there.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: macson on September 02, 2023, 06:54:56 PM
No one knows whether this will be for the European leagues or whether the European leagues will still be fine with it. But sooner or later, the European leagues can lose their talented players because they have received offers from the Saudi league, where they can earn a higher salary than if they lived in their country. Many players want to earn high wages, even if it means leaving their clubs, they will probably want to do it. If a player retires, the Saudi league will have its target players who will be given offers to play in the Saudi league, and those who see the offer numbers will be tempted to move there.
i actually think football in Europe will continue to be fine, football will never only sell big name players but also big team names, we won't see Real Madrid moving to the Arab league or Manchester United moving to the Arab league, so there's no need worried about the phenomenal transfer of old star players to the saudi arabia league.

the money spent by many clubs in the saudi arabia league actually looks like they are wasting money, they look wasteful, it is likely that phenomena like this will not happen for long.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: maydna on September 03, 2023, 01:28:43 PM
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i actually think football in Europe will continue to be fine, football will never only sell big name players but also big team names, we won't see Real Madrid moving to the Arab league or Manchester United moving to the Arab league, so there's no need worried about the phenomenal transfer of old star players to the saudi arabia league.

the money spent by many clubs in the saudi arabia league actually looks like they are wasting money, they look wasteful, it is likely that phenomena like this will not happen for long.
Perhaps the European leagues will be as fine as we think, but at least some impact will come from these famous players' move to the Saudi league. It is undeniable that famous players who move can impact clubs in European leagues, so if they move, a decline might occur in each European club.

We think that what the clubs in the Saudi league are doing seems like a waste of money. It looks wasteful, but not for the owners of the clubs in the Saudi league. Moreover, many of the owners of the Saudi league clubs are very rich, considering they have many sources of income. Money will mean nothing to them.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Shishir99 on September 03, 2023, 01:39:10 PM
We think that what the clubs in the Saudi league are doing seems like a waste of money. It looks wasteful, but not for the owners of the clubs in the Saudi league. Moreover, many of the owners of the Saudi league clubs are very rich, considering they have many sources of income. Money will mean nothing to them.

It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Yogee on September 03, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
Toni Kroos recently came out and said that players moving to Saudi are only in it for the money and that act is against football. He has no problems for players transferring at the end of their careers to be fair to him. He's more concerned about those leaving European teams at the height of their careers or before reaching their full potential.

He's in his right to share his opinion but I think this is inevitable. The Saudi League will only grow from here and the only thing that may slow down their growth is the lack of competitions against top clubs like in UEFA. They compete in the AFC but the level of talent isn't comparable yet.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: KTChampions on September 03, 2023, 02:10:47 PM
I see no problem that European football will lose its special position (if Saudi Arabia continues to invest a lot of money in football). If the best players are more evenly distributed across the different regions of the planet then maybe competitions like the Club World Cup will make some difference. At the moment it's nothing more than a joke and I don't know who watches these tournaments.
In general, judging by the trends, if European clubs (top clubs) do not organize the Super League, then they will basically stagnate and fade away, and the place of the Super League will be taken by the Premier League, which in financial terms is exactly the Super League already.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Woodie on September 03, 2023, 02:20:12 PM
I feel it'll become a big problem in future... I was just thinking of this some time ago until i got into this post... The Arabians are tryna wheel the attention and fame of the whole European football to themselves - But they all thought between themselves that it's not possible without inducing fascinating offers to European licensed footballers - now, the effects is oozing rapidly...
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And if you ask me with all the crazy offers they have been throwing around at players is definitely working in their favor!
And with all the oil money they have, they have shown the world that with money you can do anything possible and the Saudi Arabian league will forever become a football destination for many player's especially when they know that salaries are above average when compared to what's available in Europe...expect more big names to be flocking here!

Not every player will be swayed by the fat pockets of the Saudis, Mbappe proved it when he turned down the lucrative deal from Al Hilal because he wants to be in europe.
Maybe this offer came from the wrong team, had it been a team that was going to reunite him with his football idol CR7, he most likely would have left!!!

BTW europe has a lot of talents so no matter the numbers of players that are leaving there's still going to more players to retake their spots,
I don't think so !!
Take for example the strikers that have gone this side, Benzema,  Mane, CR7, Mitrović ,Neymar etc do we have strikers that can match up to these guys in europe atm, I doubt it. The approach the Saudis have taken is to target the big names of football to make a name for themselves.

also Financial Fair Play (FFP) might step in to control the transfer activities of the Saudi Arabian clubs.
Does Financial Fair Play (FFP) really go as far as the Saudi league, I doubt it!


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 03, 2023, 02:59:12 PM
Toni Kroos recently came out and said that players moving to Saudi are only in it for the money and that act is against football. He has no problems for players transferring at the end of their careers to be fair to him. He's more concerned about those leaving European teams at the height of their careers or before reaching their full potential.

He's in his right to share his opinion but I think this is inevitable. The Saudi League will only grow from here and the only thing that may slow down their growth is the lack of competitions against top clubs like in UEFA. They compete in the AFC but the level of talent isn't comparable yet.
And I don't think Kroos is the only one who thinks like that, because I've also heard many even here who speculate that they (players who go to Arabia) as one of the endings of their careers. But in fact many players are interested and go there, and even some of those players are valuable players when they are in Europe.
This is simply because Europe, especially the big leagues, is the mecca of world football. Perhaps the situation will change when the Arab League becomes bigger than it is now.
But whatever happens I hope those who go to Arabia don't regret it in the end, because it is their full decision.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Jawhead999 on September 03, 2023, 03:10:08 PM
Nope, it's not really a problem.

Not all football fans are want to watch specific player they fan especially the league is using a language that they not understand. As long as Ballon d'Or is rewarded to top league and both UEFA Champions with Europa league are popular, nothing should be worried.

The European countries must be worried if AFC Champions league is more popular than UEFA Champions league.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: mv1986 on September 03, 2023, 03:48:16 PM
Nope, it's not really a problem.

Not all football fans are want to watch specific player they fan especially the league is using a language that they not understand. As long as Ballon d'Or is rewarded to top league and both UEFA Champions with Europa league are popular, nothing should be worried.

The European countries must be worried if AFC Champions league is more popular than UEFA Champions league.

Language is no criteria here as they could easily contract commentators speaking whatever language is sufficiently popular and in demand. That's not the point.

A question I have asked myself is whether the SPL can succeed in creating a pull-effect, which means that the SPL as a league becomes so attractive that it offers more than money to European players and provides them with a variety of incentives to go there.

But now it is a massive shift of money from the SPL to the leagues in Europe, which also means that a club like Liverpool (if they had sold Salah for €175m) could also offer competitive contracts to top players afterwards with that money.

If the SPL can get to a point where the league becomes attractive enough for players to go there and money is only one of many reasons, then it could become a problem. But I don't think they'll get there and as long as that is the situation, the clubs from Europe rake in those transfer fees and can offer more lucrative contracts themselves. The biggest danger is when players become free agents. That's when Europe can barely compete with offers from the SPL.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Docnaster on September 03, 2023, 04:27:39 PM
The sudden and recent emergence of Saudi Arabia Pro League in the timeline of football in the world is becoming a problem to the European football clubs.No one thought that it will happen this way. We would have thought that it will take Saudi Arabia more than 10 years to be the standard d that that they are now, but the presence of Ronaldo made everything happen quick. You can see that some coaches from the European side are now complaining about the transfer window of Saudi Arabia because they are used to snatching good players from the European side. This is a problem.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Smartvirus on September 03, 2023, 05:15:51 PM
Nope, it's not really a problem.

Not all football fans are want to watch specific player they fan especially the league is using a language that they not understand. As long as Ballon d'Or is rewarded to top league and both UEFA Champions with Europa league are popular, nothing should be worried.

The European countries must be worried if AFC Champions league is more popular than UEFA Champions league.
This is apparently the case at the moment.
Still, with the aim of Saudi Arabia trying to develop there leagues starting with getting to host the World Cup and now, actively participating in the transfer seasons to get not just players that are close to hanging their boots but, players that are still within there prime, you could say they are getting somewhere but, not one without challenge.

The development and promotions to the  European football is much more than the Saudi side could ever hope for at the time and the many history the European side have got on its fans, it would be difficult to have few transfers on elite players to change that.
A lot of barriers still exists within the Saudi culture and that wouldn’t do much to compete favorably with the European side. Europe will still be kicking at the games for a long time to come.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: slapper on September 03, 2023, 05:30:58 PM
Nope, it's not really a problem.

Not all football fans are want to watch specific player they fan especially the league is using a language that they not understand. As long as Ballon d'Or is rewarded to top league and both UEFA Champions with Europa league are popular, nothing should be worried.

The European countries must be worried if AFC Champions league is more popular than UEFA Champions league.

Language is no criteria here as they could easily contract commentators speaking whatever language is sufficiently popular and in demand. That's not the point.

A question I have asked myself is whether the SPL can succeed in creating a pull-effect, which means that the SPL as a league becomes so attractive that it offers more than money to European players and provides them with a variety of incentives to go there.

But now it is a massive shift of money from the SPL to the leagues in Europe, which also means that a club like Liverpool (if they had sold Salah for €175m) could also offer competitive contracts to top players afterwards with that money.

If the SPL can get to a point where the league becomes attractive enough for players to go there and money is only one of many reasons, then it could become a problem. But I don't think they'll get there and as long as that is the situation, the clubs from Europe rake in those transfer fees and can offer more lucrative contracts themselves. The biggest danger is when players become free agents. That's when Europe can barely compete with offers from the SPL.
Language isn't an issue. I think your claim is missing some key points. Isn't a league's appeal its competitiveness, cultural worth, and history? Take the Bundesliga, La Liga, or Premier League. Not just because they made money did they gain good reputations. The SPL is young in this regard

Liverpool may sell Salah and utilise the proceeds to enhance the team. Though, since European teams consistently offer competitive contracts using SPL money, aren't they always attempting to catch up? What about free agency? The SPL may flaunt its wealth, but football is about passion, history, and supporters. The SPL's extravagant offers may be meaningless if these elements remain established in Europe


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: dezoel on September 03, 2023, 07:03:41 PM
We think that what the clubs in the Saudi league are doing seems like a waste of money. It looks wasteful, but not for the owners of the clubs in the Saudi league. Moreover, many of the owners of the Saudi league clubs are very rich, considering they have many sources of income. Money will mean nothing to them.
It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.
It's obviously not a waste for them since it can boost their economy greatly if they can host the Football World Cup there, and they get sponsors from all around the world if they have more star players than they already have. Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar Jr. are already among the big names they have and I'm pretty sure that a lot more will come in the future, as you said, these star players also bring millions of fans along with them when they transfer there.

We can already see that the leagues in Saudi Arabia have started getting more and more attention worldwide just because of the star players that they have got lately, and we will see that attention increasing over time, and leagues in Europe are losing viewership all because of this.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: mv1986 on September 03, 2023, 09:36:10 PM
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Language isn't an issue. I think your claim is missing some key points. Isn't a league's appeal its competitiveness, cultural worth, and history? Take the Bundesliga, La Liga, or Premier League. Not just because they made money did they gain good reputations. The SPL is young in this regard

Liverpool may sell Salah and utilise the proceeds to enhance the team. Though, since European teams consistently offer competitive contracts using SPL money, aren't they always attempting to catch up? What about free agency? The SPL may flaunt its wealth, but football is about passion, history, and supporters. The SPL's extravagant offers may be meaningless if these elements remain established in Europe


We have essentially said the same thing and what you mentioned comes on top of it. I was only focussing on the financial aspect for the moment, but I implied that there is more than money which the SPL has to offer and that this is not the case as of now.

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If the SPL can get to a point where the league becomes attractive enough for players to go there and money is only one of many reasons...

As of today there is really no reason for 99% of the players to go to the SPL except for the money they are offered.

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But now it is a massive shift of money from the SPL to the leagues in Europe, which also means that a club like Liverpool (if they had sold Salah for €175m) could also offer competitive contracts to top players afterwards with that money.

Here I pointed out what you brought up as well.

This is why the SPL will not be a problem for quite a while, if a problem means that literally all the great talents don't even start their career in Europe and Europe is running out of high quality players.

Competitiveness, cultural worth and history belong into the list of my first quote when I was talking about "many reasons".

But I would still not underestimate their financial initiative if they decide to take that to the next level not for 2 or 3 years, but for 10 to 15 years. This could shift a lot besides the quality of single clubs in the SPL. They could purchase broadcasting rights etc. I guess? I am not sure how all this contracting works around the world and how far one could get with maybe 100 billion USD, buying players, managers, but also digital infrastructure and whatever else would make sense. 


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Unknown01 on September 03, 2023, 09:43:49 PM

It's obviously not a waste for them since it can boost their economy greatly if they can host the Football World Cup there, and they get sponsors from all around the world if they have more star players than they already have. Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar Jr. are already among the big names they have and I'm pretty sure that a lot more will come in the future, as you said, these star players also bring millions of fans along with them when they transfer there.

We can already see that the leagues in Saudi Arabia have started getting more and more attention worldwide just because of the star players that they have got lately, and we will see that attention increasing over time, and leagues in Europe are losing viewership all because of this.

The money that is invested there to get these superstars, they will never be able to earn the same amount again. At least not in the next 5-10 years and the question I ask myself is how long they are willing to throw away so much money without making any money. The Saudis will certainly not run out of money, but they are currently burning a lot.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: imamusma on September 03, 2023, 09:44:14 PM
The sudden and recent emergence of Saudi Arabia Pro League in the timeline of football in the world is becoming a problem to the European football clubs.No one thought that it will happen this way. We would have thought that it will take Saudi Arabia more than 10 years to be the standard d that that they are now, but the presence of Ronaldo made everything happen quick. You can see that some coaches from the European side are now complaining about the transfer window of Saudi Arabia because they are used to snatching good players from the European side. This is a problem.
I don't think it will cause any problems other than being something good from a business point of view. See how much profit is generated from transferring players there and benefits the teams who want to sell their players. Moreover, they can't always target the best players in Europe because the players in question don't want to play there and choose to stay in Europe, so that has become an obstacle for some Saudi Pro League teams.

No problems to be expected, but this is something that should be considered as progress for the football industry. Take the positives and put your ego aside to continue wanting to see some of the top players stay in Europe with a form that is not as good as before.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: KTChampions on September 04, 2023, 09:56:50 AM
I don't think it will cause any problems other than being something good from a business point of view. See how much profit is generated from transferring players there and benefits the teams who want to sell their players. Moreover, they can't always target the best players in Europe because the players in question don't want to play there and choose to stay in Europe, so that has become an obstacle for some Saudi Pro League teams.

No problems to be expected, but this is something that should be considered as progress for the football industry. Take the positives and put your ego aside to continue wanting to see some of the top players stay in Europe with a form that is not as good as before.

Just from a business point of view, European teams suffer very much - the Saudis inflate the prices of players and their salaries very much, so many clubs lose income or even become unprofitable. But I don't see any problems in this - if they can't do business in an organized way (introducing fair salary ceilings, minimum and maximum budget for the club), then let them suffer. In business, there is always someone who suffers and someone who wins.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Shishir99 on September 04, 2023, 01:45:09 PM
It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.
It's obviously not a waste for them since it can boost their economy greatly if they can host the Football World Cup there, and they get sponsors from all around the world if they have more star players than they already have. Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar Jr. are already among the big names they have and I'm pretty sure that a lot more will come in the future, as you said, these star players also bring millions of fans along with them when they transfer there.

We can already see that the leagues in Saudi Arabia have started getting more and more attention worldwide just because of the star players that they have got lately, and we will see that attention increasing over time, and leagues in Europe are losing viewership all because of this.

There is another interesting fact. If Saudi Arabia can host the Fifa World Cup, don't think they will earn revenue from the World Cup event. Let's talk about the Qatar World Cup 2022. The total cost was around 220 Billion US Dollars while Fifaf earned around $7.5 Billion Dollars from the World Cup event. How much money Qatar may have earned? What do you think about it?

Qatar was unable to collect even 30 billion dollars yet this is the most successful world cup so far. So why countries still organize world cup while they lose 90% of their investment. I will leave this interesting question here.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Wend on September 04, 2023, 02:14:26 PM
Saudi Arabia Pro League wants to dominate the football market, and they are trying to attract players to their league. Let's say they continue to spend money on players for the next ten years. Does the European Football Federation have any stars willing to stay?
FIFA needs to step in to manage the Saudi Arabia Pro League transfer market. Otherwise, the consequences will be unpredictable.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: maydna on September 04, 2023, 03:38:43 PM
~snip~
It's not a waste for them. Their government gave a massive budget for the sports only to make their leagues international standard because they are planning to host the Football world cup. To do that, they need star players so their country get more attention from all over the worlds. They even changed their country rules for some specific players.

People in Arabs cannot live with girlfriend without getting married. But Saudi Arabia allowed Cristiano Ronaldo and they will allow many more players. Those are the exceptions they are making for those players.
In fact, it will benefit them because their league can have popular players from Europe who can make the matches even more interesting. As for the stadium, I'm sure Saudi Arabia will make a very magnificent stadium that may not exist in other countries. We know that Saudi Arabia's financial resources are very large, making it possible for the country to have all the best.

Maybe some conditions will be given by the Arab government to these famous players, but it seems that it is not a problem because it is not a matter of principle. On the other hand, these famous players will feel comfortable playing in the Saudi League because they will be given facilities that exceed what they got in the previous league.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Casdinyard on September 04, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
It would be for sure. They are reeling in powerhouses of players which will definitely show in the performance of European Football moving forward. It would even affect its viewership since now, if you want to watch your idols play you'd have to tune in to the Saudi League instead of waiting for these new bloods from the European League to ripen up and be on par with the veterans. In any case this doesn't mean that the European League is done for. It's well established enough to suffer such defeat so I think the transfer of these players to newer leagues would incite major hiccups in the viewership and performance of the European League, but overtime the skill and anticipation of the people will catch up with it again.
as I said before that the large transfers carried out by teams from the SPL do not mean to give bad things to the European league. I mean, even though many star players were bought by teams from Saudi Arabia, that does not mean the league in Europe will lose its popularity because Europe is already very well established in terms of popularity and it is known throughout the country that the European league is the biggest football league in the world, so even though it lost several star players will not be a problem for teams in Europe and will still have many fans and spectators who will watch every match.

and the efforts of teams from the SPL are the same as teams in Europe in the past when they increased their popularity before they could be known throughout the country and this will be mutually beneficial between teams from Europe and teams from the SPL when European teams get big profits from offers of money with large values and the saudi arabia team got the star player they wanted and to be honest i support this.
That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Westinhome on September 04, 2023, 05:34:18 PM

That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: darkangel11 on September 04, 2023, 10:59:10 PM
You could ask yourselves what it is that's at the bottom of it all, because the transfers are the effect, but what is the cause?
IMO it's the money that Saudis have in abundance, but how did they get that much money? Because they're controlling oil prices and the whole world is bidding for it.

How could they change this situation?
They could buy it from other countries, but those that have oil deposits would require money to build infrastructure, and the West doesn't want to invest in unstable land like Venezuela, which has more oil than SA but we all know what's going on there.

They could also force people to use alternative energy sources like electric cars and that's what the EU is trying to do.

The players are businessmen, they'll work for the one who pays the most. I don't blame them and I don't blame the EU managers who can't pay as much as the Saudis. It's mainly the problem of SA making the world depend on their oil and getting filthy rich in the process while the US was printing petro dollars to pay for it all.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: borovichok on September 05, 2023, 01:39:52 AM
Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.
Saudi important people strive to make their football league comparable with those found in Europe. They keep making enormous enticing offers for European players and signing them over, which in my opinion is not how to increase the team's excellence. Everything is an extended procedure, and we get tremendous results if they focus first on creating the structures of these teams before bringing in European players who are only here to earn treble or quadruple salaries compared to their previous ones they earned in Europe. Saudi Pro League clubs are aggressively scouting promising players and making beneficial signings during the transfer window.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Hirose UK on September 05, 2023, 07:25:26 AM

That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Many good players in the European football was taken by the Saudi Arabia league by the contract with the players.When the contractor was closes at the next summer,the most of the gamblers will back to the the European football.This Saudi is the part of the game to them,they had their own national game.Currently the European football had lack of some star players,but this was the temporary one.The players who at the age of retirement had joined the Saudi league to earn some money for their days after the retirement.Many experienced players like Ronaldo,Maples was hired by Saudi Arabia League.This players had their unique games including the Ronaldo hat trick goals.
Top European players have very good potential to strengthen the team so that almost all Saudi teams are willing to spend a very large budget to be able to sign some of these top European players but not all of the top European players who go with the Saudi team are senior players or players who are nearing retirement because there are also many young players joining and interested in playing in the Saudi League.
This is like a diamond trade for the Saudi League which only attracts most of the star players to stop by and compete there but also has a bad impact on the development of the European League which can only rely on the few star players which was previously has.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: mv1986 on September 05, 2023, 08:18:59 PM
That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.

Isn't it really still negligible? There was a time when some starts went to China and there was a time when some stars went to the MLS, but none of those leagues has really turned into serious competition for Europe. If I am not completely mistaken, the players that now went to the SPL are what, 15 or 20 or how many? This doesn't change much. It kind of reminds me of forks and I have read this somewhere else already, you can't fork the ecosystem, but you can fork the blockchain.

Europe has not just been Messi + Ronaldo. It has been so much more and there is a reason it is the most prestigious place on Earth to play football. Messi vs. Ronaldo in La Liga is not the same as Messi vs. Ronaldo in the SPL.

Let's assume that La Liga from 10 years ago would have been integrated into the SPL. And then? Nothing would be the same anymore, no more Champions League between  Liverpool and Barcelona or Madrid and Manchester City. This - if at the SPL they really plan to become a global competitor - will take at least a decade to build something visible. It won't be done with just transferring 20 players per season from Europe to Saudi Arabia.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: jostorres on September 05, 2023, 08:46:33 PM
This is crossing a limit. Why these Europeans always behave like cry-babies? No one ever complained when a lot of Asian, Latin American and African players decided to opt for the UEFA leagues instead of their own local leagues. Leagues in countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Japan and Nigeria suffered as a result of this. However no one ever published any news articles examining the negatives that non-European leagues had to deal with. Now the Saudi clubs are giving Europeans a taste of their own medicine and suddenly there is so much hue and cry. There can be no better example for hypocrisy.
That's a natural instinct, whenever you feel like you are losing control over something you start blaming others for it, and you won't be able to see what you did in the past that might have caused something similar to another entity. Similarly, they were obviously happy to see good players coming to Europe and joining their clubs as they had improved the quality of football in the region and brought in a lot of fans and money for the clubs and their sponsors, etc.

And now when they see they are losing their key players to another country or region, they can't digest that and I don't blame them for not being able to do that because it's not easy seeing all the good players moving out and taking their fans and everything with them and the quality of football reducing as well.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: len01 on September 06, 2023, 11:48:58 AM
-snip
That's what I've been saying, you couldn't deny the fact that there will be major downsides to this since these are star players, these are A-list athletes with years of experience and prowess that's transferring to a different league leaving the European Futbol with a massive spot to fill in. No doubt this will definitely subside in due time especially since we get no shortages of amazing football talents from everywhere but it would take time for the whole league to recover, until these new bloods get their big breaks and are recognized by the public.

It's one thing to be optimistic about things, it's another to be blindsided to the reality of the whole scenarios, you won't get another Messi nor Leonardo in a snap of a finger, these players take time.
right answer and this is what I want that we have to think positively about this scenario even though there will be a large transfer carried out by the saudi arabia league it does not mean there will be a loss and for sure it will be mutually beneficial in the future and we have to leave the worries about the bad that It will happen when some European star players move to Saudi Arabia, it not mean Europe will lose star players because Europe is always building new talents with younger and very reliable players like Haaland, Mbappe etc who are currently still in Europe and I'm sure Europe not lack of star players and also will not lose its popularity because we all know that almost all European football has academics to get new talent with very reliable talent.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Westinhome on September 08, 2023, 11:54:46 PM
Saudi Arabia Pro League wants to dominate the football market, and they are trying to attract players to their league. Let's say they continue to spend money on players for the next ten years. Does the European Football Federation have any stars willing to stay?
FIFA needs to step in to manage the Saudi Arabia Pro League transfer market. Otherwise, the consequences will be unpredictable.

The reason behind the Saudi League buying the top class European players like Ronaldo to try to dominant their supremacy over the other team.This also include the European Football Federation,because many players of Europe was in Saudi Arabia League.This was the master move by the Saudi Arabia League and their government of Saudi Arabia Football club.The Saudi Arabia League are ready to get the contract of players till ten years and the player may not back at the ten year contract.This was the big move by the Saudi Arabia League and can be find only by the old football fans.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Unknown01 on September 24, 2023, 07:38:52 PM
-snip-

Let's assume that La Liga from 10 years ago would have been integrated into the SPL. And then? Nothing would be the same anymore, no more Champions League between  Liverpool and Barcelona or Madrid and Manchester City. This - if at the SPL they really plan to become a global competitor - will take at least a decade to build something visible. It won't be done with just transferring 20 players per season from Europe to Saudi Arabia.

What you wrote is 100% true but the Saudis don't plan for short term either. In some cases, the players receive contracts for the period after their active career so that they can better build up the local system with their help. It won't be possible to become dangerous to European football overnight, but what will happen in 5-10 years? Many European clubs are heavily in debt, while Saudi clubs are essentially printing money with oil. Money doesn't matter for them and with the right strategy the SPL could become a threat.

By the way, there are now >30 well-known players that I at least know


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: popcorngolf on September 24, 2023, 11:58:02 PM
most of players who transfer to Saudi league, want lot of money  the european football create always new players young players
the players have limited time of best playing of their life  , the same format very dificult at an old age , most athletes get tired after a period of play and effort


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Westinhome on October 02, 2023, 04:52:15 PM
most of players who transfer to Saudi league, want lot of money  the european football create always new players young players
the players have limited time of best playing of their life  , the same format very dificult at an old age , most athletes get tired after a period of play and effort

The money played the big role in the game of the Saudi Arabia league as compared to the European football league.The football players who had enough experience in the game was hired by the Saudi Arabia league.The huge money reason for the Saudi Arabia League was the government of Saudi Arabia had helped the Saudi Arabia Club in the funds based.This was the big lesson for the European nation to sponsor their country owned club to avoid of good players moved to the Saudi Arabia League for the money purpose.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Unknown01 on March 17, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
In the short term, all the shopping of all the expensive players last summer hasn't changed much. European football remains the most popular in the world and the Saudi league doesn't even come close. The question that arises is how long the Saudis will continue to pay extremely large sums of money. Many players are also dissatisfied with their situation. It's not just the cultural difference that matters, but also the weather. I can now imagine that the peak for the saudi league has been reached.


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Docnaster on March 17, 2024, 10:52:18 PM
In the short term, all the shopping of all the expensive players last summer hasn't changed much. European football remains the most popular in the world and the Saudi league doesn't even come close. The question that arises is how long the Saudis will continue to pay extremely large sums of money. Many players are also dissatisfied with their situation. It's not just the cultural difference that matters, but also the weather. I can now imagine that the peak for the saudi league has been reached.
Saudi Arabian clubs knows too well that the only way they can bring many European based players to their league is by spending more than European clubs will do and that's what they've been doing over the last three transfer windows. But despite the huge amount of money that Saudi leagues uses to get these European based players they are still not on the same class with European football at least for now and that's why a lot of young European based footballs are still not accepting offers to join the Saudi league despite the mouthwatering deals they offer.
Gone are those days when football is majorly played for passion of the game but that's actually not now because at the moment, a lot of footballers at just playing for the money and that's why they're easily convinced to leave their former clubs because of their excessive love for money


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: alani123 on March 17, 2024, 11:57:27 PM
Saudi league will bust in a few years. The teams aren't profitable. The viewership isn't there and the overall quality isn't rising in spite of all the popular player transfers.
To say that it'll be a problem to european leagues, would mean that transferring the most popular players out would ruin the entire culture of football in Europe...

I just think that the over saturation in big money to big players is actually doing more damage though. If european leagues have to utilize the talent pool at lower leagues and also academies to get more good players. I'm all for it actually. Saudis get all the overpaid players so we can bring out more local talent. Meanwhile it would take like a couple of generations to build a football culture. Saudi Arabia's football scene will probably collapse before that can happen :D


Title: Re: Will the transfers to the Saudi league become a problem for European football?
Post by: Slow death on March 20, 2024, 04:42:14 PM
In the short term, all the shopping of all the expensive players last summer hasn't changed much. European football remains the most popular in the world and the Saudi league doesn't even come close. The question that arises is how long the Saudis will continue to pay extremely large sums of money. Many players are also dissatisfied with their situation. It's not just the cultural difference that matters, but also the weather. I can now imagine that the peak for the saudi league has been reached.

The biggest obstacle for this Saudi Arabian league is its culture, which is very different from Europe's culture, and also the fact that the Saudi Arabian government is not a democratic government, they use religion as law, so that in itself already puts This whole project of bringing in players from outside the country is a huge failure in the long term. This is because no good young player who plays in a major European league will leave Europe to go and play in a country like Saudi Arabia where despite receiving a lot of money, he will not have the freedom to do what he wants and will not have a successful career. . We just need to see that the players who have played in Europe are involved in many controversies, from sleeping with many women to cheating controversies with their wives.

The wives of most of the players who play in Europe have posted photos with little clothing, they have dressed in the street with little clothing, because in this way they think they are enhancing their bodies, they consider themselves sexy. This has become so normal in Europe that it is already part of European culture, but this in Arab countries can lead to women being arrested and if the foreign player who plays in Saudi Arabia makes the mistake of drinking alcohol and sleeping with many women in Saudi Arabia, hotel, then he will be punished based on religion. Countries like Saudi Arabia are dictatorships. It is impossible to be happy in a dictatorship country. That's why, in my opinion, players who go to Saudi Arabia will go because they are old

They will go to retire, nothing more, and I believe that the day Ronaldo retires, many people will stop following this league and many players will not go to this league and the Arabs will not be able to pay these high salaries for a long time. This project is doomed to failure. Europe has the best leagues and will be like that for many years. other continents have many problems such as corruption and dictatorships and this is destroying sport too