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Title: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Rockson1 on September 14, 2023, 09:11:51 PM
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Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Hatchy on September 14, 2023, 09:17:16 PM
Was it my fault?
In one way op, it's actually your fault. Before introducing you boss to accepting btc in his business, did you advice him to go and understand what btc is all about, and how transactions are being carried out? I guess not. If not he would have been able to tell the difference between btc and usdt as it's boldly written and have no resemblance. This is why it's advisable to tell people who you are introducing to Bitcoin all they have to know. So you don't end up in trouble. Some how, this story looks cooked up because I don't know if you can send the wrong coin to another wallet, I haven't tried that before.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Cantsay on September 14, 2023, 09:18:42 PM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: _act_ on September 14, 2023, 09:24:10 PM
This looks like lies. But in case of helping yourself, read what I post below:

=Since I am the manager of the supermarket, I will teach him how to use it and he agreed and created a verified BINANCE that he could use for his transactions, since some people use Bitcoin in my area, so one day I didn't come to work. That day he messed up unknowingly with me.
Binance? That is a custodial exchange. Not you key not your coin. You could have used a payment processor.

If the supermarket is not that big and your boss want to use a wallet, he should use a noncustodial wallet, not Binance that altcoins are pegged as bitcoin and they are regarded as bitcoin.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: JeromeTash on September 14, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??
I really wonder what his aim is… Looking for some merit sympathies?

OP what was the payment processor you and your boss used? This story does not check out, lol.



Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Hatchy on September 14, 2023, 09:34:28 PM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.

You are right at cantsay, it's totally cooked up. I decided to try it and see for my self and these were it's result

Btc to Btc address
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/14/6TUvN.png


Btc to USDT address
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/14/6T2n9.png

Op, you should come up with something better nextime, your lies won't help you.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Stalker22 on September 14, 2023, 09:35:58 PM
Was it my fault?

Great story, buddy! Ever considered penning a screenplay for a classic comedy movie? Something in the vein of those old-school, black and white gems starring Charlie Chaplin or Laurel and Hardy – pure timeless humor!

https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/86/e3/90/86e390bccd1fb5d0590bacfd1d7ca1bb.jpg


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: tabas on September 14, 2023, 09:39:41 PM
Is this for real? It's kinda hard to believe that this has happened for real. But let us say that this is a real thing, didn't you said that bitcoin address is different from other crypto addresses? I guess that should have been one of the first things that you've said to your boss since you're the one introduced it to him. But wherever we're going with this OP, just like the others I am very skeptic with your story even if I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess that you can't blame us if we're not buying the story that you've made/said.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: _act_ on September 14, 2023, 09:40:59 PM
I really wonder what his aim is… Looking for some merit sympathies?
It is only looking for merit.

But there is Omni layer for USDT and USDT can be sent to the bitcoin address that begin with 1 on Binance. Most people are not using the Omni layer and Tether Limited said recently that they will no longer support it.

It is just a lie.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on September 14, 2023, 09:49:42 PM
Some months ago, I was arrested by my director at the supermarket where I worked because I advised him to accept Bitcoin as part of payments in his business. Since I am the manager of the supermarket, I will teach him how to use it and he agreed and created a verified BINANCE that he could use for his transactions, since some people use Bitcoin in my area, so one day I didn't come to work. That day he messed up unknowingly with me.

You yourself still need more knowledge on how bitcoin transactions work because why would anyone use your custodial wallet for that long if a transaction occurred? I think you should use a noncustodial wallet.

It is always not good to me when someone who is supposed to learn in the forum tries to come up with some lies to fool people. When did you come to the forum that you were already acquainted with the knowledge of the bitcoin transaction that gave you confidence to tell your boss that he should start accepting bitcoin in his shop? And I wonder why you just come up with a lie like this to gain merit, which is not the right way for you to do that. Once you start lying on the forum, the forum members won’t value and what you are posting, and you won’t learn at all.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Stalker22 on September 14, 2023, 10:31:31 PM
But there is Omni layer for USDT and USDT can be sent to the bitcoin address that begin with 1 on Binance. Most people are not using the Omni layer and Tether Limited said recently that they will no longer support it.

If I am not mistaken, Binance ceased support for deposit and withdrawal services on the OMNI Network back in 2021:
https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/binance-will-cease-support-for-deposit-and-withdrawal-service-on-the-omni-network-d35656fb838046fa90d13f73558d5be8

It is just a lie.

Yep, without a doubt!


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: _act_ on September 14, 2023, 10:39:44 PM
If I am not mistaken, Binance ceased support for deposit and withdrawal services on the OMNI Network back in 2021:
https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/binance-will-cease-support-for-deposit-and-withdrawal-service-on-the-omni-network-d35656fb838046fa90d13f73558d5be8
Binance may stop support for USDT Omni layer address, but if you send USDT to that address, it will still be successful. The coin will not be shown on Binance. Although just as we have said before, the OP would have talked about it this way if what he is saying is true, but not true.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: nelson4lov on September 14, 2023, 10:42:49 PM
~Snipped
After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?

I  am going to give you the benefit of doubt and ask you one question. If you didn't sell your coins to free up yourself, how did you manage to get bail?

Contrary to the opinions and the story checks out, then it's your fault since you introduced someone to something they're not familiar with yet didn't give them the full details. You introduced someone to Bitcoin but first directed them to use an exchange and nothing about the technology/creating their own self-custodial wallet to manage it.

If the story is actually cooked up then you should be ashamed of yourself.


Some context:

It's possible to send a different blockchain asset to another but it would be lost. Another point to note is that not all wallets/exchanges do address validation in the UI.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Odusko on September 14, 2023, 10:43:10 PM
What movie did you get this lines from, the  story line sound interesting and dump at the same time, how possible it is for one to send Bitcoin to USDT address?
Even if possible to make such mistake, wouldn't you have already posted your boss Bitcoin receiving address so why then does he need to go and manually copy the wrong address?
More so is the fact that in your story you failed to mentionhat the become of your boss after the experience, or they are still acting that episode.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: nakamura12 on September 14, 2023, 10:55:11 PM
OP, let's just say this is true that Bitcoin can be sent to that address and then yes it was your fault for not telling or teaching him everything you know and what the person should know about crypto. Anyway, even other wallet would also show invalid address just like what you can see on the image that hatchy provided. I didn't know what your true aim here but your story isn't believable for me and it's not just me who can prove it but as you can read in my post if I go along with it then read the top most part of this post.

I really wonder what his aim is… Looking for some merit sympathies?
It is only looking for merit.

But there is Omni layer for USDT and USDT can be sent to the bitcoin address that begin with 1 on Binance. Most people are not using the Omni layer and Tether Limited said recently that they will no longer support it.

It is just a lie.
This reminds me of this thread where OP is asking about what we could benefit when telling lies. What do we benefit in lies in forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466302.0). Definitely looking for a with such story.


What movie did you get this lines from, the  story line sound interesting and dump at the same time, how possible it is for one to send Bitcoin to USDT address?
Lies just what they said and maybe a hidden agenda.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Nwada001 on September 14, 2023, 11:57:48 PM
Yes, it was your fault for thinking that people would buy your wacky story.
 
And again, it's entirely my fault for reading through this long thread, knowing full well that this is not just a mere fabricated story but the shake of getting people's attention rather than looking for people who will feel pity for you. But guess what? You just happen to make it easier for members to start ignoring your posts and harder for people to waste time in your thread again. Try spicing up your story very well next time and conducting some research on what could be happening before using those words and statements to kill yourself with your own hand.
 
Because even a centralised exchange or a cheap platform can't even authorise a transaction with an address that's different from what it's supposed to be, I'm just wondering what you think of your readers.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 14, 2023, 11:58:29 PM
Was it my fault?
Yes, it's somehow your fault. Introducing Bitcoin to people is not the major task of BTC enthusiasts but ready to put the newbies through the necessary security, how to make transactions, and what to avoid which could lead to losing everything they had if they didn't avoid it.
Not putting newbies on the right path or teaching them well is the reason why most newbies have negative thoughts about cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Sarah Azhari on September 15, 2023, 12:04:02 AM
Was it my fault?
Regardless of whether this news is true or not, you have made a mistake because you don't teach him totally. You shouldn't leave him with complete knowledge that makes him give the wrong address. If I were you, I would explain the chronology to the police and maybe give them proof or video of how the crypto address works. So with this experience, I hope it doesn't happen anymore in the future, if we don't really understand how crypto works, we shouldn't tell to anyone, Don't teach to someone if you really don't understand it yourself.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: sheenshane on September 15, 2023, 12:05:17 AM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
Haha, you nailed it mate.  
If someone isn't caught, he could live happily ever after for merit hunting.

Let's assume that the story isn't a lie.
It might OP did not know that sending Bitcoin to USDT would lead to an error transaction and could be his director trying to prank him and now OP telling us here that BS story.

So now OP you can tell the police that the transaction is impossible.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 15, 2023, 03:17:47 AM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.

I started reading the story and it already sounded made up. Thank you for confirming it. People make up lives on the internet in general, and stories like this. What happens is that here they have a powerful incentive to invent things that they think will earn them merit, as is clearly the case here, and it has backfired.

So, yes OP, it was your fault to make it up.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: reagansimms on September 15, 2023, 03:19:41 AM
No one needs to be blamed for this incident, I'm sure you have good intentions to make the supermarket where you work more developed than before after your boss accepted the suggestion to receive payment using crypto assets. Actually, this incident will not happen if you tell your boss to make copies of several different addresses on paper as well as a barcode (QR Code Generator) to receive payment. This incident is just a misunderstanding between your boss and the customer due to your lack of education.
I hope that after this case is over you will still be accepted to work there with the same position, then you have to pay more attention to teaching the employees there to prevent the same incident from happening.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: MCUKing on September 15, 2023, 03:32:13 AM
I have a big question for you. Why did you suggest a non-custodial wallet to the Director? It seems like there was a bit of a blunder because you introduced him to a technology he wasn't familiar with. The user interface was quite challenging for him, and it seems like you might not have guided him as well as you could have. It's a bit surprising that a police case even came into play based on the information you provided. How did they arrest you without investigating further?

After the investigation, it turns out that the root cause of the problem was your recommendation, and there's a good chance you might face fines for the misinformation. To avoid all this trouble, recommending a custodial wallet would have been a safer and easier option for him. It's strongly recommended for people new to this space.

If you had made that recommendation, I'm sure the case might not have even gone this far. So, when guiding others about the market and Bitcoin, please be more careful. Based on what's happened in the past, it seems there's room for improvement in your guidance skills.  ;).


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Chilwell on September 15, 2023, 03:41:15 AM

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?
Mr OP why will you lie like this, the forum you see is not for one person but all the members are decision maker because anyone disregard your statement with fact so next time be careful. Don't see this has an attack rather a challenge you, again don't blame anyone for you mistake, learn from this mistake. Don't be discourage with all of this, don't give up, some of the members in the forum faces similar challenges like this.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: bluebit25 on September 15, 2023, 04:05:10 AM
OP,

If you're looking for something from this forum, be more honest first. The story you share here seems unrealistic, and like a fabrication full of errors of expression.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on September 15, 2023, 04:50:56 AM
The heck was that story. Everyone here got a negative sentiment OP cause the details werent clear and good as realistic event on blockchain. How come you can do a BS story to post here? I hope you arent grinding for merits. Its okay to post narrative experience but to tell a lies and equate your situation with that isnt gonna earn you merits. Being truthful or posting quality experience here can be a good meritable post but not to the point you need to came up with a lousy story. Props for posting you really did effort on conjuring details.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Mayor of ogba on September 15, 2023, 09:14:09 AM
A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady who sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address of the lady who sent the Bitcoin, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin unknowingly to him.
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You had all the time in the world to tell the policemen this when you were interrogated by them but you chose to be locked up for days before saying it. I see that you want your story to be long which is why you chose not to tell the policemen not to call the woman that made the transaction when you were first interrogated by the police.

Was it my fault?
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Your director has never studied Bitcoin's fundamentals to know how to deal with Bitcoin. You went ahead to convince him to start accepting Bitcoin payments in his business and you also adopted a custodial wallet where he is not fully in control of his Bitcoin. It is your fault for introducing something to your director he has no single knowledge of.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Woodie on September 15, 2023, 10:19:59 AM
Was it my fault?
Sorry about your wrongful incarceration, but here is what I think using an example...

Your situation was like giving someone a loaded gun and asking if it is your fault for them going on a rampage shooting at everything that moves and you do not want to be implicated in it...might not be the best example but you introduced your boss to cryptocurrencies without proper guidance especially that you are running a business and most likely very much aware that crypto transactions are irreversible.

The best approach was to start with baby steps to get the boss familiar with this ecosystem, a few YouTube videos or something to get them to know how crypto works before jumping to wallets and the alike, by now he would have known the dos and donts, but unfortunately he had to learn the hard way.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: HONDACD125 on September 15, 2023, 10:49:31 AM
I have not been coming to this forum for a long time now, so I want to tell you the reason why I was not here for a long time.

Some months ago, I was arrested by my director at the supermarket where I worked because I advised him to accept Bitcoin as part of payments in his business. Since I am the manager of the supermarket, I will teach him how to use it and he agreed and created a verified BINANCE that he could use for his transactions, since some people use Bitcoin in my area, so one day I didn't come to work. That day he messed up unknowingly with me.

So the next day, I went to work and he was asking me strange questions that I couldn't answer, and I was like, why are you asking me all these questions? then he asked me if I didn't want to talk, maybe I will talk in the police cell and I thought it was a joke, all of a sudden I was arrested for committing no crimes.

When I got to the police station, the police asked me, why did you steal from your director? then I answered I didn't steal from him. Maybe it is a little misunderstanding. then the police men said that my director said I had stolen the coins that a customer used in paying for things she bought then I couldn't say a word again because the officers didn't want to hear from me anymore and that was how I was dumped inside a police cell.

A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady that sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address the lady sent the Bitcoin to, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin to unknowingly to him.

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?

Your story is quite interesting and funny. You gave good advice to your director to accept Bitcoin as payment, and of course giving or accepting Bitcoin as payment can play a huge role in the value of Bitcoin. I think you told your director to only accept Bitcoin as payment. You didn't give him a complete guide about Bitcoin. You should have given him full information.


The woman may have asked him for a Bitcoin address to send Bitcoin to, while your director may have given her a USDT address, causing the Bitcoin to go to the wrong address. When your director didn't receive the Bitcoin, he suspected you, that you stole his Bitcoin, and his suspicion was correct, because he didn't know anything about Bitcoin. However, in this whole story, as far as I understand, the entire fault is yours, because whenever someone is told about Bitcoin, he should be given full information about the risks involved. Incomplete information can lead to similar problems.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Rruchi man on September 15, 2023, 04:14:10 PM
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I laughed so hard at this story. The story sounded suspicious at the beginning, but the lies at the end sold you away. Get knowledge first before you try to lie to people who know more than you do, so you can at least cook up a story convincing enough to lie with.

Where you seriously hoping to earn merits from your cooked up story? @OP This is a poor attempt!

Congratulations, you have successfully been added to my ignore list.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: CryptSafe on September 15, 2023, 04:50:18 PM
I have to say this, OP is a good storyteller. Maybe OP should specialise in writing fiction. I think that would suit OP perfectly well. I was wondering how on earth it is possible to send Bitcoin to usdt wallet address here. Indeed a fictitious story. On a normal when you insert a wrong wallet address on the wrong chain wallet there is always a caution sign to alert you that it is a wrong address not to talk of when the wallet address is not complete. I think OP is just a kind of teasing us here with this type of joke.

Although I still see this as a joke because in the real sense we all know how things works on the Crypto space.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: letteredhub on September 15, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
Was it my fault?
Before anything else I'll like to say a big thank you to OP, for I am entertained and the interesting part is than I was entertained for free. Lol.

Op from the story as read, everything that happened  was all your fault. And I'll itemize why I said so.

1. For trying to outsmart the community with such a dumb cooked story

2. For being so eager to get merit at all cost but not doing so morally.

3. For not interested more in learning but merits etc.

It's all your fault next time put in energy to making your fiction story more real and connecting.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on September 15, 2023, 05:38:57 PM
This story does not seem very believable. It's strange how your post is so detailed and isn't completely plagued with grammatical errors like your previous posts which barely make any sense. The part where you say Bitcoin was sent to a USDT is where your story falls apart. This would only be possible if it was an Omni Layer USDT address which Binance doesn't support and also the fees on Omni are too high to be realistically used for supermarket purchases.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Mr.suevie on September 15, 2023, 09:38:24 PM
This story does not seem very believable. It's strange how your post is so detailed and isn't completely plagued with grammatical errors like your previous posts which barely make any sense. The part where you say Bitcoin was sent to a USDT is where your story falls apart. This would only be possible if it was an Omni Layer USDT address which Binance doesn't support and also the fees on Omni are too high to be realistically used for supermarket purchases.
That's because it's an obvious lie an all made up story, for me when I read the whole write it just made wonder what even gave him the inspiration to even write such nonsense. Maybe OP must have re-enforced himself and his is fully back to hunt for some merit because thats the only obvious reason someone can cook up some story like this


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Marvelman on September 15, 2023, 09:56:21 PM
This has got to be the dumbest story I've read here!

I do like this part though:

...and that was how I was dumped inside a police cell.

A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady... So they did.

Am I the only one getting a "naughty vibe" here?  :P


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Smartvirus on September 15, 2023, 11:17:01 PM
A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady that sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address the lady sent the Bitcoin to, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin to unknowingly to him.

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?
It’s possible that the police could pick someone up in a mass arrest situation but, it’s not always the case when you’re singled out for an arrest. You must have committed something or born out of a misunderstanding.

As initiator of idea and a more better expert on the course in your supermarket as I’ll like to presume,
It’s okay for you to instruct them to call you when confused or not take a transaction at all when you’re not readily available. They’ve been doing well with fiat and could still manage a few days of your absence from work. It’s easy to say, “our sales rep in cryptocurrency collection isn’t available” and you provide alternatives.

Either ways, I can’t blame it on anyone as you’ve rightly stated it to be an issue of misunderstanding. It ain’t your fault, neither is that of your boss. You both misunderstood each other.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Catenaccio on September 15, 2023, 11:58:21 PM
People make up lives on the internet in general, and stories like this. What happens is that here they have a powerful incentive to invent things that they think will earn them merit, as is clearly the case here, and it has backfired.
They made up stories to fish merit. They think it is best and easiest to fish merit..


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: tech30338 on September 16, 2023, 12:02:11 AM
sorry but it seems to me that its just a made up story, if this story is true you might have really steal the money in the first place, like the comment earlier address will be invalid once you put it there, so its either true that you made up stories, or you did steal the coins, posting made up stories will not help you grow here since it will be attach to your name, in the forum, so the next time you post members will think twice if its true or not, so be very careful, with what you said in the forum.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Agbamoni on September 16, 2023, 12:13:07 AM
if this story is true you might have really steal the money in the first place
Its not buddy and he is not a good story writer as well. This forum is supposed to be a place for meaningful discussion, not some fanciful bedtime tale. I'm actually outside my apartment, and it feels like a quiet night to listen this story but I wont waste my time.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: JunaidAzizi on September 16, 2023, 11:48:17 AM
Was it my fault?

This is not possible at all for a bitcoin is sent to a USDT address. You need to exchange it first. In your case, the fault is yours as well as the director too. When you advised him to use bitcoin payment why you did not educate him about the bitcoin. After the advice you need to explain everything about Bitcoin to him and yeah he will never do such stupidity. Also, the director did the wrong thing in that he provided the USDT address instead of BTC and to repay his loss he arrested you to recover his lost money.

So be aware for the next time I know you advised him for his betterment but see how you get arrested by suggesting Bitcoin to the wrong person. Next time you advise someone then please give him a complete guideline about the bitcoin so you will not be arrested again.

As the wise peoples says 'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.   


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on September 16, 2023, 02:21:56 PM
I have not been coming to this forum for a long time now, so I want to tell you the reason why I was not here for a long time.

Some months ago, I was arrested by my director at the supermarket where I worked because I advised him to accept Bitcoin as part of payments in his business. Since I am the manager of the supermarket, I will teach him how to use it and he agreed and created a verified BINANCE that he could use for his transactions, since some people use Bitcoin in my area, so one day I didn't come to work. That day he messed up unknowingly with me.

So the next day, I went to work and he was asking me strange questions that I couldn't answer, and I was like, why are you asking me all these questions? then he asked me if I didn't want to talk, maybe I will talk in the police cell and I thought it was a joke, all of a sudden I was arrested for committing no crimes.

When I got to the police station, the police asked me, why did you steal from your director? then I answered I didn't steal from him. Maybe it is a little misunderstanding. then the police men said that my director said I had stolen the coins that a customer used in paying for things she bought then I couldn't say a word again because the officers didn't want to hear from me anymore and that was how I was dumped inside a police cell.

A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady that sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address the lady sent the Bitcoin to, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin to unknowingly to him.

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?


It looks to me like a made up story, first, your Boss cannot just arrest you without wanting to hear your own side of the story.
Besides the police would want to have your own statement to present as fact, but here your saying, the police officer didn't want to hear a word from you anymore and that you where just dumped into the police cell.
I feel there is more to this story.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: michellee on September 16, 2023, 03:01:02 PM
That's a funny story, @OP ;D

But we assume that it is a true story.

It seems this was a mistake by your director @OP, who incorrectly provided a USDT address instead of a BTC address. But supposedly, when the address entered into any BTC wallet is not a BTC address, it will show an error as pointed out by @Cantsay and @Hatchy.

But in this case, @OP may also be guilty of not explaining the differences between each coin, or BTC and USDT, so such a mistake occurred.

If @OP is already in jail for that mistake, it's necessary so he doesn't lie and give false stories again.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Broadanbig on September 16, 2023, 03:40:47 PM
OP from what I could understand from your story is that you introduced a new payment option for your supermarket which is Bitcoin payment and from the looks you have taught your Boss how the Bitcoin ecosystem works but from what I have read here, it seems you did not teach him properly how to spot Bitcoin wallet address and how to use it for payment because if you had done that this issue would not have emanated and secondly I was thinking if your Boss and the customer did not see any error message while inputting the wallet address and trying to send payment because that should be the next pop up response they could have seen to  make their corrections.

Lastly, as it is that you are the only one informed about Bitcoin in your work and you introduced it there it would have been nice you used the opportunity to educate other staff aside from your boss so they too could have the knowledge about Bitcoin that in your absence, they would be able to work with it instead of waiting for your return. With that you have succeeded in introducing your colleagues into Bitcoin and the awareness and adoption could have spread through that means. As it happens that you are the only one informed about Bitcoin in your organisation no one could handle such you could have told your boss to wait till you return from your break while they continue with their fiat payment as they have been doing for long.  Well it is not your fault you wanted your organisation to be ahead of others so you could gain more customers and it is not your Boss fault as he is not well taught about the Bitcoin ecosystem and you also would not blame the customer too.

As you have said, it was just a misunderstanding between all of you which needs a peaceful resolve.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: SatoPrincess on September 16, 2023, 09:33:54 PM
There is a lot of inconsistency in OP’s story and I agree with those who believe the story was made up. But on the other hand, I think there is a lesson to learn here because OP is not the only one who has tried to add bitcoin payment in his business. Others have done so in the past, and there may be members who would want to do the same. I would advise you only accept bitcoin as a payment method if only you’re the sole owner of the business and you can bear the loss if anything goes wrong. The story presented by OP may be fictional but it shows how risky it is to coerce people to invest in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: icalical on September 17, 2023, 01:33:45 AM
There is a lot of inconsistency in OP’s story and I agree with those who believe the story was made up. But on the other hand, I think there is a lesson to learn here because OP is not the only one who has tried to add bitcoin payment in his business. Others have done so in the past, and there may be members who would want to do the same. I would advise you only accept bitcoin as a payment method if only you’re the sole owner of the business and you can bear the loss if anything goes wrong. The story presented by OP may be fictional but it shows how risky it is to coerce people to invest in bitcoin.

Yep true, accepting bitcoin in a business where we are the only person who actually understand how Bitcoin works is very risky, especially if we are not the one who will take most of the risk where something bad happened. Tho OP could make the owner learn the details of how bitcoin works and he should put extra effort on that, but still if something bad happened OP is the one that will be blamed.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: rozak on September 17, 2023, 01:46:55 AM
Was it my fault?
OP you seem to be making up an origin story. but if it's true, it's your fault anyway. Besides, it doesn't make sense when a boss who doesn't understand how Bitcoin works can accept your suggestion to accept Bitcoin as an alternative payment in his business?
The boss's mindset will not be that easy to trust his subordinates. Maybe you can teach him, but when your boss doesn't really know how it works and the risks of using Bitcoin, I'm sure he won't just accept your advice.

Moreover, your suggestion of using a centralized exchange platform as a payment account also proves that you yourself don't really know the risks of Bitcoin. Not to mention the wrong choice of address that you mentioned, a warning before sending coins will be clearly visible on the customer's device before making a transaction. Your story is very difficult to believe.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Peanutswar on September 17, 2023, 05:27:33 AM
I guess it is bad that you make an introduction with the bitcoin or the crypto itself because they understand how the market getting hyped with this, and they have different perspectives on it so if there are some cases that there's a chance they short in the balance of the total need to deposit or debit to their calculations there's some possible suspicious thing can accuse which is who the one who use other people more knowledgeable with the investment. I didn't tell you that you did this but we cannot remove the possibility of their perspective you open it up they remember and they make a speculation. This is the reason why not all the time we need to open up with the crypto.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Zigabel on September 17, 2023, 05:39:32 PM
In as much as this story doesn't look true, it's sounds more like a fiction and doesn't hold grounds as the technicalities here in doesn't match up, I mean the events practical don't sound like something that really played out, even the police don't operate that way it's not logical at all OP and your boss wouldn't presume you stole for a transaction that definitely didn't go through, nevertheless here is a piece of advice,

When ever you want to introduce someone to something as this, make sure you have the proper knowledge about that which you are about to introduce someone into, don't teach someone about something you do not have a complete knowledge about so as not to get into trouble in the nearest future especially if it has to do with things that involves money as this., Always make disclaimers at some point so as to avoid future confrontations and if it does arise you will have a reference point to save your self. Lastly this forum is not a joke, cooked stories as this will not attract pity merits, work on your contents and make quality post and you will be sure to get merits.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Saint-loup on September 17, 2023, 06:54:26 PM
This is not possible at all for a bitcoin is sent to a USDT address. You need to exchange it first. In your case, the fault is yours as well as the director too. When you advised him to use bitcoin payment why you did not educate him about the bitcoin. After the advice you need to explain everything about Bitcoin to him and yeah he will never do such stupidity. Also, the director did the wrong thing in that he provided the USDT address instead of BTC and to repay his loss he arrested you to recover his lost money.

So be aware for the next time I know you advised him for his betterment but see how you get arrested by suggesting Bitcoin to the wrong person. Next time you advise someone then please give him a complete guideline about the bitcoin so you will not be arrested again.

As the wise peoples says 'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.    
If you had read comments above, you wouldn't say that. Because USDT was initially only available on the Omni layer which is a layer2 network running on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. It means addresses used by this network are basic Bitcoin addresses. And as far as I know, Tether is still offering USDTs on this network, so if the guy has used a deposit address for USDTs on Omni or if the lady has sent Omni USDTs to a Bitcoin deposit address, it could happen. Funds could be recovered thanks to an Omni or Bitcoin wallet, with the private key of the address, if the exchange is ok to give it, though.  


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: tvplus006 on September 17, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
...Was it my fault?

I think that this method of payment with bitcoins is not initially legal in your country. And you, since you are the manager of a supermarket, before offering such a method of payment for goods, you should have definitely found out this in order to avoid problems with law enforcement agencies.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Renampun on September 17, 2023, 07:44:59 PM
...

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?

Even though your story is a misunderstanding, you have to be careful about suggestions for accepting payments with Bitcoin where you work, education about cryptocurrencies, how to use them, and also the wallets that support them are not fully distributed, just look at the case you experienced, the woman sent bitcoins to a USDT wallet, how could this happen, besides that there is also the possibility that you will be made a scapegoat because of someone's mistake, in the future you have to be careful, you are not the owner of the super market, by the way, what about your job now? Do you still work there?


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on September 17, 2023, 08:47:01 PM

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.

There is a transfer ID whenever someone do an internal transfer in binance besides even external transfers can be tracked.  It can be verified through communication just like how the lending system here works.  I also agree that the story sounds BS since there are flaws like what you stated.  Aside from that, instead of accusing the person, his boss should have asked the question why he did not received the the payment of some client and not directly accusing him of stealing.  The accusation will follow when @OP failed to explain why the coins is missing.



Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: HajiBagi on September 18, 2023, 07:09:50 AM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.

I believe you are correct that the address is different from a wallet address, and I also believe that if the story were true, his boss wouldn't be acting in such a disrespectful manner. Instead, he would have called him to explain what had occurred and to provide him with the address to which the woman had sent the coin. I know that coin is not something that everyone can joke with, but if the tale is true, I believe he would want you to know what was going on before turning you over to the authorities. A good manager and a responsible human being would not behave in such a manner.

The only thing I can add is that you should always make sure that your points are crystal clear before writing a post so that anyone who reads it will truly love it and even give you merit. This post is something that many people are seeing that you just posted it to earn merit because your story did not go well, so next time I think you should at least get some points that will make your post look good to people.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 18, 2023, 07:45:21 AM
This is a painful story where the rich will oppress the poor, and for your question, heck no, you are not guilty of anything.

This kind of situation happens, and my brother told me a while ago how his friend sent an LTC address instead of a BTC address and the account was wrongly found.

In summary, if you are in a good country, I advise you to press charges and let a lawyer write the employer for damages. But with the way the whole thing played, I doubt it if you are in a good country. :(


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 18, 2023, 08:27:33 AM
OP, you should lock up this thread to avoid further bashing and prevent others from spamming here now that your post is alleged to be false. Let the case be closed.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: pawanjain on September 18, 2023, 02:39:16 PM
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Was it my fault?

Yes, because you shouldn't suggest anyone to accept bitcoin unless you yourself have the sufficient knowledge.
If you are using BTC as a payment at a shop you should first know about the regulations at your place.
You should always use a self custodial wallet instead of binance especially when you are running a business.
You should have made your boss learn about bitcoin before using it as a payment method.
You should have argued with the cops because they can't arrest you without any legit evidence.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: YUriy1991 on September 18, 2023, 03:26:31 PM
When I read it, my first impression seemed to be that I was being invited to think about the problem you are telling about, then at the end of the story you are not a hero but a victim. a unique story but, what @pawanjain said is true and that is what actually happened to you for future evaluation.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Wapfika on September 18, 2023, 03:31:22 PM
A few days later, I told the police to bring me the lady that sent the coins to my director's Bitcoin address, So they did. To cut a long story short, when I checked the address the lady sent the Bitcoin to, it was a USDT address that my director gave to the lady to send Bitcoin to unknowingly to him.

After that, I was granted bail, so I look for money to bail myself out, but the happiness I heard was that I didn't sell any of my coins while I was in a hard situation, so I know that since I didn't sell my coins to bail myself from the police cell I can hold my coins for longer time.
Was it my fault?

You are not at fault here, First there’s no way to send Bitcoin to a USDT address since it will be tagged as invalid format which will me the sender unable to send(I’m not how you track the transaction but there’s no way to send tokens with different blockchain network therefore there will be no blockchain record to track the transaction).

Second, Your boss agreed to use the cryptocurrency as payment method. It’s his call so that’s his fault whatever happened unless you really stolen the money.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on September 18, 2023, 03:34:21 PM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
Yeah even considering the OP's post history, I was already skeptical about it. Something just sounds off about his story, like yeah just use crypto in accepting payments and stuff. I ain't a manager, but I don't think it's that simple in implementing crypto in businesses.

Sure it's possible with sole owner owning a business, but if I heard a manager and higher ups, it's going to be that easy changing business flows.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on September 18, 2023, 06:30:18 PM
From the beginning of this story you will know directly that it's a frame composition in order to earn a merit, this totally a story made so you can give he or her a sympathy merit, actually from looks of the transaction I don't know were they are transferring the coin from, I don't think it's supportive using or transferring a bitcoin to usdt address, a bitcoin address is different from usdt wallet and its very obvious and it's identifiable when looking both of them,so this is a mere lies to fetch a merit.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: SatoPrincess on September 18, 2023, 06:48:56 PM
From the beginning of this story you will know directly that it's a frame composition in order to earn a merit, this totally a story made so you can give he or her a sympathy merit, actually from looks of the transaction I don't know were they are transferring the coin from, I don't think it's supportive using or transferring a bitcoin to usdt address, a bitcoin address is different from usdt wallet and its very obvious and it's identifiable when looking both of them,so this is a mere lies to fetch a merit.
It shows how little OP knows about bitcoin transactions, and to think he supposedly convinced his boss to accept bitcoin as payment. Interestingly, OP has not made any comment here since his story was bashed as fake. He made a terrible mistake and has been rewarded for it with a neutral tag. I think this is end of this account as it has  little value, he will likely create a new profile and try to start something.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on September 18, 2023, 07:07:00 PM
From the beginning of this story you will know directly that it's a frame composition in order to earn a merit, this totally a story made so you can give he or her a sympathy merit, actually from looks of the transaction I don't know were they are transferring the coin from, I don't think it's supportive using or transferring a bitcoin to usdt address, a bitcoin address is different from usdt wallet and its very obvious and it's identifiable when looking both of them,so this is a mere lies to fetch a merit.
It shows how little OP knows about bitcoin transactions, and to think he supposedly convinced his boss to accept bitcoin as payment. Interestingly, OP has not made any comment here since his story was bashed as fake. He made a terrible mistake and has been rewarded for it with a neutral tag. I think this is end of this account as it has  little value, he will likely create a new profile and try to start something.
Everyone knew it that op theory or suggestion is totally false, sometimes it's for someone to make a legitimate post that have meaning and very educating so that other people will emulate from the person research, but in this composition of op, its very obvious and understandable to darf who doesn't not hear that this story is a formulated one to catch up some merits, because the boss won't have arrested him if such went wrong, they look for a way to sort out the issue since the coins has not reflected, and it's not up three day the transaction took place before op is been accosted according to his lies.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 19, 2023, 11:03:23 AM
When I read it, my first impression seemed to be that I was being invited to think about the problem you are telling about, then at the end of the story you are not a hero but a victim. a unique story but, what @pawanjain said is true and that is what actually happened to you for future evaluation.
There is no reality in that story, it's all made up and the lies are very much clear which are also explained by users in this thread earlier. Apart from what everyone has said, I wonder why would the director blame him for the lost coins instead of being worried and asking him to find out what happened because he isn't experienced and he might have missed things up which is generally what would be said by a person in real life but it's just a story.

Sometimes I wonder what comes to the mind of people who sit in front of their devices, and instead of surfing the forum to look for some knowledge and information to gather, they think of creating a made-up story on themselves and see what the community says about it. That's a strange mentality.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: MegameSama on September 19, 2023, 11:26:34 AM
Don't give baby boomer Bitcoin technology, they don't understand it and will of course mess it up ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: Out of mind on September 19, 2023, 01:07:51 PM
OP I think it's totally your fault, why did you ask your boss to accept bitcoin when that person has no idea about bitcoin. If you had explained to your boss the business of Bitcoin transactions, he might have understood, but instead you offered to accept Bitcoin directly. And maybe he couldn't accept this bitcoin offer and considered it a scam, and finally handed you over to the police, that's really unfortunate and sad for you. Bitcoin is not legal where you live, so you should be careful educating people about Bitcoin. You must educate a person about Bitcoin well before they start learning about it and offer to trade and invest. Only if that person understands your explanations about Bitcoin, you can offer them Bitcoin investment or trading.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: kamvreto on September 19, 2023, 03:50:42 PM
OP I think it's totally your fault, why did you ask your boss to accept bitcoin when that person has no idea about bitcoin. If you had explained to your boss the business of Bitcoin transactions, he might have understood, but instead you offered to accept Bitcoin directly. And maybe he couldn't accept this bitcoin offer and considered it a scam, and finally handed you over to the police, that's really unfortunate and sad for you. Bitcoin is not legal where you live, so you should be careful educating people about Bitcoin. You must educate a person about Bitcoin well before they start learning about it and offer to trade and invest. Only if that person understands your explanations about Bitcoin, you can offer them Bitcoin investment or trading.

OP's enthusiasm for sharing About Bitcoin and suggesting it to others may be worth emulating. But what is dangerous is how to approach someone by not explaining in detail what Bitcoin is and why they should accept it or adopt it in their business. This will put negative pressure on Bitcoin if they don't really understand it and in the end Bitcoin will be said to be a fraudulent platform or something. Moreover, OP's country does not allow Bitcoin or it is still illegal. This will be seen as a fraudulent investment or a dangerous investment, even though Bitcoin is just a decentralized digital currency that can be used for anything.


Title: Re: Was it my fault or not?
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 19, 2023, 04:35:29 PM
Lies! lies!! lies!!!

If you insert a Usdt address (erc20 Or Bep20) it should show error or wrong address since they both start with “0x0”  and that of trc20 starts with “T” and bitcoin addresses are either “1”, “3”, or “bc1” so how the heck did the lady send the coin to a Usdt address??

The whole story look like an obvious bs story, first you told your boss to use “binance” to accept transactions which means he would be reusing his wallet addresses, and that might lead to issues since he won’t be able to differentiate who sent a transaction.
I was just watching the live action of One Piece of Netflix a while ago, and maybe the OP is like one of the cast of characters there which is Usopp. He's been known for telling lots of lies to his neighbors. Well, sorry I shared that one. I'm a One Piece fan, and like Usopp, OP is like him who is also telling lies to the users here.

Thanks you noticed it. I wonder what will be the response of OP after being bashed with his story full of lies. I mean this post is his last post currently. Better luck next time OP, and to answer your question, it's your fault. Maybe just stay in a police cell (if you really stayed there knowing that the whole story of yours is a fake story).