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Bitcoin blowup: Domestic dispute turns crypto catastrophe with six-hour standoff in central Thailand (https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/bitcoin-investment-loss-sparks-domestic-violence-and-six-hour-police-standoff-in-ayutthaya)

I just found a news story and tried to find more content related to this story, and this is all I know about this story. It makes me imagine stories that I have encountered before in the investment environment, where losses occur and make people lose their original reason for earning money, which is also to bring home and build a better family life. I don't want to discuss the reasons for investment failure here, but from the story associated with bitcoin, it will also continue to happen, but in a different form.

Bitcoin is getting more and more popular, and it is labeled with many different stories. I can see many people blaming Bitcoin as the cause of all the problems, but clearly the main problem is people causing them related to Bitcoin.

Don't say it is all because of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is only one of many investment assets that can be chosen by investors. There are more stories like this with stock, real estates, gold investors. There are more stories of family conflicts from traders on Forex with overkill leverages.

By writing those stories, that can be true or fiction, people only want to attack Bitcoin. They make Bitcoin is like a very risky investment choice and can destroy family happiness. In fact, happy or not, it depends on how that family works and how family members interact with each other, take care of each other as well as how they reach to consensus for family investment.

Whatever investment asset is, if a husband or a wife arbitrarily steal family money to invest, it will cause serious conflict.

This is one of the problem that lack of knowledge on what you are investing on will cause you. He lost his funds either due to his wallet compromise or he sold off at the wrong time due to FOMO. Many bad scenarios are related to bitcoin, of which it wasn't bitcoin that caused it but their own carelessness and unsafe practice. I guess that he used the family funds to invest, instead of using only the amount that he can afford to lose, this is how people that uses money not meant to buy bitcoin for bitcoin purchase would end up in one regrets or the other. If you are a family man and don't have spare money to invest never use money made for the family responsibilities or family saving to buy bitcoin because it isn't only your funds. Bitcoin investment needs patience for it to yield profit.

I think bitcoin cannot be blamed because bitcoin is just an asset or currency. Everyone can use bitcoin, including using bitcoin for criminal and fraudulent purposes

There are many stories in bitcoin, some have big profits, some have big losses. The disadvantage of investing in Bitcoin, especially if we are still beginners, is our ignorance of Bitcoin and the risks it carries. Most people see bitcoin as a quick way to become a millionaire, without wanting to learn about bitcoin. So it's their own fault, not bitcoin's

Apart from the issue of knowledge about bitcoin, sometimes there are types of fraud that use bitcoin, it is like a ponzi scheme. My friend once experienced a scam like this, he invested in crypto and deposited a certain amount of money with the promise of monthly profits, the first 3 months he got money but after that there were no more payments, he invested quite a lot until his personal life was disturbed and his relationship with his wife was problematic , but now it's back to normal

So there are a lot of stories about bitcoin, and what's yours?

The fact is that bitcoin trading, and any cryptocurrency, has a certain feature. It lies in the fact that if you trade uncontrollably, then this activity ceases to differ from roulette in which the chances are 50-50 or even less. And that's exactly what this story is about. The guy didn't know about money management, and I'm sure he could go to the casino with the same chances of profit. And judging by his reaction after losing all the money - he has neither self-control nor awareness in his actions.

Exactly, there are already lots of news about domestic disturbance very similar to this case here that have nothing to do with bitcoin. We are going to see a lot more due to the increased economic hardship around the world too. But when bitcoin is involved the propaganda machines start getting active and choose it to spread FUD trying to slow down the adoption which they are too afraid of.

An old man kill a cashier in order to steal the funds, should we blame fiat?

A robbery shot 5 people in jewelry store to steal gold, should we blame gold?

After all the medias always exaggerate their title to drag people to think if Bitcoin is bad, we all know centralized entity and government are don't like Bitcoin.

I just read the article and what I get from there was that an insecure man shot his wife and later shot himself in he leg out of fear that his wife would die, I don’t see how bitcoin affected them.

They are couples out there that have lost more than this specific couple did, and up till this day they are still living peacefully without any violence.

Although, they didn’t realize the full details of what actually transpired and if they should do you’ll notice that the time when the money was lost through bitcoin has been a long time, prolly the lost just amplified the misunderstanding between them.

Same here mate, I barley get the connection of this story with Bitcoin. if he incures a loss from his investment in. Bitcoin that would be as a result of his own inability to safe keep his funds or maybe he gambled them. From what I see here, the man is aggressive and irresponsible which led to separation from his wife. We here alot of such news everyday, concerning domestic violence, just because they mentioned Bitcoin these internet bloggers decided to use it as a head up story for their page.

Often criminal cases involving a Bitcoin investor/trader are linked to Bitcoin even though it has nothing to do with it at all. Traders/investors, whether in any instrument, should understand the risks of their investment/trading - and they should be fully aware that their money can be lost at any time and they should be mentally prepared for that.
So it is very unwise to blame investment instruments, especially Bitcoin, for causing someone stress or committing criminal acts because it is purely a personal action, and does not need to be linked to things that are actually unrelated.

It is really just that simply showing about bitcoin investment which would really be similarly could happen even on a typical or traditional investment on which it is really not that a good thing about blaming Bitcoin for this incident.It is really just that because of that rage because of losing investment via Bitcoin and this would really be basing up with their decisions which we know that losing money is never been a good thing but its impossible that you arent that aware or wary about the risks involved on the time that you do step your foot into this market on which losing could really be possible.
Sad thing on here is that this do really ends up on separation and hurting his wife or tended to even kill which you you know that if you cant really be able to control your rage then it would really be definitely be ending up for you to do such things which you didnt expect that it would happen.

Regret do always happen in the end and not in the beginning. This is why having that self control and temper is really that crucial specially with this investment where market is really that
unpredictable and anything could really happen in a snap.

Someone created a similar topic and I was the first to reply, although the person failed to drop a link to the real news which makes me think it's probably fake, so thanks for clearing the doubt, my replies was even off from what I just read in this link of yours now.

It seems the man fell into scam somehow, I thought they had the fight because they both invested into Bitcoin using one single wallet and someone between the two went behind the back to spend some Bitcoin, but now thats not the case.

Women will always be women, once a man lost everything they file for divorce, imagine if this man made more money, would she still file for divorce? This is one good way to know if someone really loves you or not.

I like telling men to pretend losing it all and see what their women will do, the world is fill with lies and fake love today, if I am this man I will summon the courage and accept the fact that the wife is not worth to be my woman in the first place.

This has nothing to do with Bitcoin, scammers hunts for bank accounts and empty the account, the same with crypto wallets too, anyone can become a victim to scammers at any time, with Bitcoin or no Bitcoin.

Stories like this are actually very easy to find in a household environment, because they can immediately go viral when the investment or money invested is in Bitcoin. However, in my area I rarely find this kind of thing because perhaps not many people here experience losses through Bitcoin and even if there is a loss, it doesn't really matter. So no one blames Bitcoin or anything related to cryptocurrency, be it investment or trading.

People who blame Bitcoin when they experience losses are people who don't understand Bitcoin, because basically every mistake lies with themselves who may still not be able to manage their assets well or still don't understand when trading in the market and don't know the concept. investment in the long term. So it is very illogical if someone who experiences a loss blames Bitcoin because he himself believed in Bitcoin before he experienced a loss through the market or investment.

Seing bitcoin running bearish and then the investors are loosing is not a reason enough to engage in misunderstanding that would have led to domestic violence, bitcoin is not altcoin for crying out loud, when it falls it rises again, all that would have been done during the dump market season is to hold more for it to pass, if the two partners understand well what a volatile cryptocurrency is like bitcoin, maybe they could communicated it between themselves and just hold instead of resulting to fight.

Domestic violence is not acceptable at any level and people should know that when there's no effective communication and information there will be misconception and having issues may become inevitable for the parties involved, or maybe there's more other things unclear to us that have aggravated the anger that led to the conflict between the two partners,  believe they would have been wrongly informed about bitcoin, if they had an adequate knowledge in bitcoin this may not have happened.

it is not about bitcoin actually , but it is about the attitude of the person involve , how he put himself into investing that he might lose and cannot accept that fact.

even if this happened in stocks or real estate he will still have this act because he cannot handle the volatility of the investment world.

I think he is not there to invest instead he wanted to become super rich in easy way.

They invested more than they can afford to lose, i believe if they had invested an amount they wouldn't mind losing, all of this would not have escalated this way, people have to learn that BTC was not created by Satoshi to make the wealthy, but as a p2p electronic cash. The husband shot his wife because he could not handle his stress and anxiety, many people lose all of their investments daily, but many of them don't turn dangerous and a threat, BTC was just the investment in this situation, it could have easily been another risky one too.

this is a bad sign of how the married being broken because of wrong understanding in cryptocurrency and now Bitcoin once again is being
blamed for this incident .

but it is obvious that the wife is against the investment and only th husband pushes this in the reason of the argument.


The cause of the incident was Kritsada’s loss of 700,000 baht in Bitcoin investments, which led to disagreements with his wife. The wife asked for a separation, which stressed Kritsada. He regularly visited his wife’s house out of fear that she might cheat on him. On the day of the incident, he entered his wife’s house hoping to reconcile but was met with resistance, leading to the aforementioned incident.

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/bitcoin-investment-loss-sparks-domestic-violence-and-six-hour-police-standoff-in-ayutthaya

this is according to the articles that I assumed the reason of the wanted of divorce from the wife's side.

As far as I know, "money" or more generic "money problems" are amongst the main causes of divorce. If it wouldn't have been Bitcoin, it would have been something else.

Bitcoin has no issue with this. The husband has really a problem with his mind or emotional wellbeing as he does it because no matter how big your loss you don't blame someone unless you have something in your mind that you can do but mostly what I've noticed is that they commit suicide.

That's huge money that got lost for sure. I wouldn't say that it's bitcoin as it has financial aspects it's not solely about bitcoin as we talk about the money associated with it they just use it as a means of investment. The possibility would be their life savings that they can go to the street or make them broke all their lives which that husband led to having that scenario.

Most people have emotional issues like him. They invested all of their money and expected that it would give them a higher return but as we all know the crypto world is highly volatile and suddenly if the market goes dump they face a huge loss which they can't afford and lose control over his mind and body same case occurs with the person which is mentioned in the article. He loses all his investment and he is left with nothing in a situation of fear and anger he attempts to murder. As experienced people say invest those which you can afford to lose. So in this, there is no bad role of Bitcoin nor his wife but the only thing is that he lost his control and trading want patient.

Those who are knowledgeable will discern the true culprits, and those who are wise will sift through the FUD peddled by the media. Remember that bad news often sells well in the media, and some audiences accept it as a misguided reality.

Marital discussions concerning finances should ideally be approached with thoughtfulness and without undue pressure. Ultimately, nothing is more precious than the lives of the ones we hold dear.

It's not Bitcoin that's the problem; it's human nature and our inherent vulnerabilities. Bitcoin, like any investment tool, is just that – a tool. Do we blame the stock market when investments go sour? Do we point fingers at real estate when property prices plummet? No! The issue lies in individuals not taking the time to educate themselves about the risks.

For anyone reading this: If you're getting into the world of Bitcoin or any investment without proper knowledge, you're setting yourself up for potential disaster. There's no "get rich quick" scheme here. And honestly, to attribute personal failures and horrifying incidents like the one described to Bitcoin is a gross oversimplification. Knowledge is everything. Don't dive into these waters unprepared, and certainly don't let your emotions cloud rational judgement.

All mistakes are caused by human behavior, but selfish people will never accept that they are wrong and find ways to blame anything they can think of. Bitcoin, forex, stocks...all are just tools for us to make money, we voluntarily participate in the market, no one or any asset can force us, it all just comes from human greed.

I still remember reading an article a few months ago, a Chinese worker jumped into a steel furnace while working and the reason was said to be that he had participated in the stock market and lost all his assets. So whose fault is it? Only stubborn and stupid people blame the stock market.

The problem is not with Bitcoin, but with individuals who are not ready for everything related to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is open to everyone, allowing anyone to trade and invest in it, but not everyone can make a profit from Bitcoin. Obviously this is not Bitcoin fault, the main point lies in the individual awareness and patience when the price is not commensurate with the value of the asset when investing.
The dispute that occurred in the story you quoted teaches us to be more mature and think positively about all the risks that can arise from every investment. If you are not ready to take risks, don't ever enter the world of investment.

It seems that the person has no knowledge about Bitcoin and also studied the risks, and such incidents actually happen a lot due to not being able to control emotions and accept reality. And not only in Bitcoin assets or investments, like other investments, if you make a mistake and experience a loss then the household will have problems because one party does not accept it, causing arguments. And if one of the parties is unable to control their emotions, which are actually only momentary emotions, it will lead to heated arguments that lead to violence, divorce, even as in the case mentioned by the OP. And fortunately his wife was still alive, and after that incident all that was left was the regret that he really regretted.
So in this case only intelligent people can judge that it is not Bitcoin's fault, but rather the stupidity and carelessness of its users. And for ordinary people, maybe they will consider Bitcoin negatively, because they only judge and know about it because of Bitcoin, not because of its stupid users.

When I was start investing in btc the first lesson I learned was to invest only extra money you could afford to lose. I have never heard so far that investing in any coins will give you guaranteed profit. The problem with the husband why he first not learned properly about btc investment and the second mistake that he used money for investment he or his wife couldn't not afford to lose.

Many news of this kind happen before and the reason was something else like many people bet on cricket and lost then we will say that cricket is wrong and similarly if this story happened in stock market/lost in business then no one would say that business is wrong.

Btc is investment assets and every investment assets has probability of profit and loss. One should learn properly then properly manage fund to start with btc. So far 95% users make profit and only 5% story are out negative so we should not be worry about it

I have one question here, we know that one will not lose single cent until sell. This person invested in future?

Honestly, why should Bitcoin be blamed? We are responsible for every decision and action that we make no matter what the results are. In this case, the abuse happened not because of Bitcoin but because of what had happened wherein Bitcoin was just involved as a factor. To make it simple, the incident will still occur whether or not it will be a different investment for as long as the money was lost and emotions took over. Therefore, this story is just another case of news platforms or the media incorporating Bitcoin into bad incidents and stories to paint a negative image and reputation for Bitcoin. If you actually think about it, even if it is not Bitcoin and just an ordinary investment (say gold or stocks) the incident will still occur for as long as the same decisions and actions are conducted. nbvbvmn m nn

Well the husband is just deciding too poorly with his money. I wouldn't even invest if I was like in need of money at that point. 700k baht is like a million in here and that ain't a joke for a losses ya know.

Domestic violence is entirely just a holy crap scenario. Disagreements is just normal for couples, but physical stuff is just a hell no. I feel bad for the wife's family. That guy really needs help if you would ask me. Bitcoin is out of this topic. It could still happen even if it was just normal investment involving fiat currency.

Yeah this is entirely true. Not everyone is just up for the volatility of Bitcoin. It can be accessed by anyone, but the problem is that people think that it is just way too easy.

I feel like this story is written on the website in a very insensitive way. It's all about the guy, and oh how stressed he was, and how worried that he might kill himself if his wife died. But he isn't the victim in this situation. He's clearly an abuser, a controlling guy who still didn't come to terms with his wife leaving him, and who got so angry that he almost killed her. She, a victim of violence, and protecting her should be at the center. He is a criminal.
Financial loss, whether it's Bitcoin or something else, can be a serious reason for disagreement in the family, but it should not lead to violence, for violence is simply unacceptable in a relationship.

Because of incidents like that, there will be those people who will blame bitcoin for it since it's the possible root cause of the quarrel of the couple. This isn't the first time that we've seen quarrels like this and it's not just with couples but also with people that know each other in real life.
And stories like this are not different from the usual stories that we see from those couples that are fighting over money or have financial problems or even last will testament. As long as there's money relation to an incident like this, people will think of something bad about bitcoin because it's the one that's associated but if there's no bitcoin on it and it's just the typical cash that's being fighted for, you won't hear them say that it's because of money and blame that for it.

It is funny how media use the name of Bitcoin just to get views from the people even though it has nothing to do with the crime.  As I read the article, it is not about the Bitcoin investment that led to shooting but the jealousy of the husband, thinking that his wife is cheating on him reason why the wife wanted separation.

It is not Bitcoin's fault that the man losses money, it is his impatience to sell at a lost or probably the guy got scammed of his money by entering a get rich quick scheme offered by a scam company. 

Bitcoin is just a tool, it will always be the people who irresponsibly investing in bitcoin that will have to be blame whatever crime they are facing. Just like what we mostly heard about money that it’s the root of the evil, but in reality it’s the greedy people that want to take advantage on money are the ones pushing themselves to do devilish things. However, I always believe that when it comes to bitcoin, not everyone is capable to make it work. It takes a wise man to successfully invest in it and ends without regretting.

Probably because bitcoin is not liked by the government in the first place that’s why whatever FUD they can attach to bitcoin, surely it will be a hype. But only bitcoin enthusiasts are capable to understand bitcoin well. Family conflict with bitcoin is actually possible, but it’s not bitcoin that should be blamed, but the people who have no controlled of their emotions that makes the conflict rise.

Problem are bound to happen in the family and also other aspect of the world but I don't see any reason for this to be blame on Bitcoin. I mean there are so many cases of husband actually beating up his wife due to financial reasons relate to fiat but that's doesn't mean fiat should be blamed. My take on this is just because if the low and lack of understanding to what the husband was actually getting himself involved in that caused him the loss of his coins.

The media will want to use this story to make bitcoin look bad. The headline is misleading, Bitcoin blowup??
What I find in this story is a troubled husband who thinks his wife is unfaithful and is paranoid about it. These characteristics are not those of a successful trader, it’s no wonder that he lost so much money in bitcoin investments. The husband cannot blame his actions on bitcoin, maybe his lawyer can attempt to convince the court that his client suffered from a mental breakdown and ask for a reduced sentence but still that wouldn’t explain why and how he got a gun.

The important point from this incident is not to be too all in on bitcoin especially if we have a family to think about then invest as much as we can and don't be too pushy.
Even though being in bitcoin is pretty good but in this case we also have to realize that there are other needs so use some of our money to invest because "this is an investment not gambling" so we must be aware of the risks we have to take and this is not a case where we save today and will benefit tomorrow.
On the other hand, if indeed our family knows it would be better if we discuss in advance what we want to do so that we avoid situations like this because seeing from the beginning the dispute occurred in this article starting from the loss of Bitcoin investment of 700,000 baht by Kritsada (perpetrator).

For people who already understand Bitcoin, they certainly won't blame Bitcoin for this reason. However, for those who don't understand the truth, this is very possible if they think that Bitcoin is very dangerous, all crimes are committed as a result of Bitcoin.
In my country there was also an almost identical case, namely where a student at the most famous campus in this country killed his younger generation on campus because he was in debt due to loans and because his previous investment in crypto had suffered huge losses. Fund what happened? People are increasingly talking about the dangers of Bitcoin, even though what made him commit murder was because he couldn't stand the bills from the online loan.

So from this we can conclude that this crime occurred because the person was not mentally prepared to deal with the problems that happened to him. And he is also not prepared for the various risks he might face. So I just imagined how delicious it would be without being prepared for the risks. So this happened. Even though people like this are faced with cases other than Bitcoin, they will definitely have the same temperament. So, don't blame Bitcoin, but blame the individuals who can't control their emotions wisely.

But why do we blame Bitcoin in this story or in other similar stories? I do not think that Bitcoin has a direct relationship to family conflicts, unless the narrator of the story wants to distort Bitcoin by relying on social ethics, which, in my opinion, is an immoral position in itself.
On the other hand, there are many similar stories about domestic violence or severe disputes between members of the same family. If it is a dispute over the division of the inheritance, for example, is it permissible to blame the inheritance in this case? The way the story is presented is what indicates the accusation towards the party whom the narrator wants to accuse, without any logical analysis.

Tell me honestly, guys, what is the treaty for this issue with Bitcoin? It is the same as if someone is given a knife and kills someone with it and later says that he did not kill him, but the knife did it. Understand that this matter is the same; it means nothing else; it is just a defamation of Bitcoin compared to fiat currency. Bitcoin is only a medium of investment; it cannot be blamed. If it is seen, this person blamed his own mistake on others and committed murder out of guilt. Cryptospace is not a game; you will only win it. And no one connects his emotions with it. Rather, only smart thinking and knowledge work in the field of cryptocurrency. The cryptocurrency market doesn't look at Kisi's emotions, so let's go, man. This guy has invested his entire portfolio; I will give this person a little less loss. So, sorry friend, remove this misunderstanding from your mind; it doesn't work here; only your knowledge and experience can give you profit; otherwise, cryptocurrency is not your life code.

Another classic episode of the media actively trying to throw Bitcoin in a bad light by making it seem like Bitcoin is the cause of the issues the man had with his wife when it's obvious that the man made a bad investment decision based on timing.  I'm definitely sure that the man made those purchases during a high without making an informed decision on the purchase.

Also, The article frequently referenced the husband going to his "wife's house" when they're married to each other? Sounds dysfunctional to me and unrelated to Bitcoin itself.

Anyone with a bit of understanding could see that this situation would've inevitably happened (maybe a little less worse) regardless of Bitcoin investment or not really. You just don't "shoot" your wife because you were "agitated".
Just the fact that he has no confidence in himself (it's what I can assume from his actions) is more than enough that the relationship had a lot more problems than just that investment. The man might have an unstable mind or something really. It's your usual media manipulation tactics of bringing notice to something completely irrelevant in a topic lmao. I guess including Bitcoin had more impact than saying the man had an "unstable mentality".

If someone invested in Bitcoin without telling his family, the story might be the same as in the news. However, in a household, openness and honesty are needed in using money. They live together and should be able to share, including if they want to invest in Bitcoin, so there are no misunderstandings between them.

But if a problem carries Bitcoin's name, it seems Bitcoin will get a bad name from that problem. This must be straightened out so that Bitcoin's name does not become worse because of this news. It's the same as an investment story using Bitcoin as capital. But after the program failed and became a scam, people blamed Bitcoin even though Bitcoin was not at fault. The program is wrong.

People must realize that before deciding to invest in anything, not just Bitcoin, they must tell their family (husband/wife) so there are no misunderstandings.

If you use your own money to do this and don't touch money of other family members' money, you can do it without agreement and permission of your family members.

If you use money from your salary but it relates to what you usually contribute to your family budget for expenses, you must inform other members about that. If you don't do this, many conflicts can occur.

Their is no problem in bitcoin just that people go after it in a wrong  way that leads to bad results, the problem is not Bitcoin but individuals.  Bitcoin have principles that people needs to understand and follow and when people follows it in the wrong way they get positive results and when people follows it in the wrong way they put the blame on Bitcoin as the cause of the problem. People needs to get better understanding about Bitcoin to go about it in the proper rather than going astray and later pit blames.

This is the same with HYIP before they are blaming Bitcoin as a scam even if that is just a method that was used to scam people. They don't understand that it's their own fault which is why they got scammed and they are very closed-minded about it because they keep telling other people that Bitcoin is a scam. Knolwedge is always a must in every aspect even the method used like Bitcoin and you are also the one who initiates the investment just to be sure that it is not a scam and you will be the one to blame first.

There are countless stories of domestic violence and divorce due to failed investments. The issue is that people fail to understand that all investment has some level of risk. This is why it is good to study the business and invest only what you can afford to lose. When it comes to investment there should be agreement between both the husband and wife this is to avoid the blame game. Some spouse will secretly use the family savings to invest and it could bring conflict if the investment fail. But I am sure that this spouse didn't invest in Bitcoin properly. Maybe they were deceived to invest in a shitcoin or they invested through a third party. My assumption is based on the fact that the losses they would have incurred investing in Bitcoin wound not be high and they cannot lose all their Bitcoin investment.

Kritsada lost 700,000 baht or 19358.68 USD Google conversion = 0.73 BTC loss.
It is not clear whether he lost in futures trading or just suffered losses due to the bearish market while BTC was still held? Still not clear enough.

A husband's Kritsada is no longer under control, he seems stressed by the market situation, maybe that is my assumption so he can take it out on his wife, on the other hand they are also having problems with the family when he wants to persuade his wife to refuse and fight, this is what causes problems, So it's not Bitcoin at all, but Kritsada was too emotional because he lost 700,000 baht in Bitcoin.

It is not about what people use, it is about who is using it and for what purpose. Imagine a person using a gun for criminal activity and someone using a gun for self-defense. It all comes down to the cause. Isn't it the first rule of investment that you only invest what you can afford to lose? If that was the case here, this incident wouldn't take place in the first place.
Violence is bad but is Bitcoin the only cause for it? I am sure there are other reasons attached to it. So why only blame the Bitcoin? Today the media are shit. They only focus on the trending things and make a big fuss about it. Negative energy growth I shall call it. And also, this whole thing came from emotions and not being able to risk manage that investment.

But there are always layers to everything. We can't say for sure what was the reason until we get to the core.

What? This sounds like one of the worst excuses anyone could ever have for something like this, not like there is any excuse that would be logical for anything like this at all. No matter what you do, no matter what they have done, there is no excuse for any spouse to hurt other spouse and I mean like not even a slap, let alone actually shooting someone.

This doesn't make sense, I do not understand how people could reach a point where they literally shot the person they claim to love the most. I have been married for years now, and I can't imagine any scenario ever where I would ever imagine hurting my wife, it just doesn't exist, that reason is not available in my brain at all no matter what happens.

I think that blaming this on the Bitcoin incident is dumb. Obviously something was wrong with that relationship long before Bitcoin got involved. Perhaps the Bitcoin investment was simply an excuse to have a fight, which got out of hand.

I do not believe that Bitcoin should be made into the scapegoat here, which the news article is obviously trying to do. In such an unstable relationship, eventually this would have happened one way or another. It was just a matter of time.

Also, Bitcoin investments only become a loss if you sell during times when the price of Bitcoin is lower than your buying price. Should have kept hodling. But I suspect that he invested money that could not afford to invest because they needed it for other things, because he hoped to get rich quick.

after reading the article, it looks like the loss of the Bitcoin investment was just the last straw for the wife. the guy clearly has personal problems that he deals with and his wife is getting tired of dealing with it, I mean, who the hell visits their wife regularly just to make sure she is not cheating after she asks for separation? the couple clearly have a deeper issue in their relationship and it didn't originate from investing in Bitcoin but it just so happens that the loss of Bitcoin Investment is what triggered the wife's breaking point and asking for separation.

this incident is why it is extremely important to communicate with your partner when making a financial decision that involves a lot of money.

When we are discussing about the case, we should discuss it thoroughly. It is a must to know the reasons, whether it is related to Bitcoin or not. I believe that case won't be caused by the failure of Bitcoin investment only, there should be another reason. Sometimes the media only blow up something that people can be attracted, but they didn't tell the whole case.

Of course, since more people are holding Bitcoin, there should be more varied stories. I think it is normal, there is nothing wrong with this.

Yep, people blame Bitcoin because they don't accept their mistakes. Bitcoin actually can't be blamed, it never forces people to invest in. Even Satoshi never stated that Bitcoin is created as a digital asset. He created Bitcoin for an electronic cash or a digital currency. But people invest in Bitcoin because the value is getting increasing.

This might only happen if one invests with bitcoin putting high emotions into it and when things happen not according to the plan, eventually the investor becomes more frustrated that he’s unable to control his emotions until he end up fighting with his partner and ruin their married life. This is really true for those people who only invest because of greed and not really understand the concept of bitcoin.

It was clear that it was jealousy that triggers the incident.  The lost in Bitcoin investment is what triggers the wife to ask  for separation but the crime is triggered because the husband suspected the wife of cheating.  The husband does not think that it was solely the lost of money but rather his wife is seeing someone else and the reason that the wife ask for separation is to be with other guy.  That triggers the argument that leads to shooting as far as I understand the story stated by the linked article.

It all goes down that if you want to invest or trade or even gamble your funds, set your limit and never expect high profits from it especially if you are still in the process of learning. Because if you put high expectations on what you’re doing, once things end up not working, you might lost your focus and fail in the end, leaving you with negative emotions and eventually put the blame on someone until you both end up with a fight.

This is a pretty good point because of course in this case even though being in bitcoin is something that is very good for us to invest in but we also cannot give all of our assets to investment especially for the long term.
Remember, we still have lives and needs that must be met every day. Don't let when you are fixated with big profits you forget that especially if you have a family.

Seeing from the case that occurred, the incident began when there was an argument about money being invested and received a loss because the value of bitcoin was shrinking. In this case, even though we consider it a risk, the people closest to us may not necessarily be able to accept it so that initial communication is important, especially when it comes to joint money (husband and wife), so we must first commit from the start so that nothing like this happens.

Everything that involves with money might certainly trigger a conflict right after. Most especially for bitcoin since it's highly valuable and expensive. But lets not put the blame on money or bitcoin simply because they are not controlling us but we are capable to control ourselves. In the end, if we use our emotions in bitcoin investment, expect that we won't succeed on it but will only develop depression right after we lose our money. When that happens, it's normal to see some conflict especially inside the family circle.

Aside from the given insight, an investor must do his own research, and educate himself about the investment venture and the company managing the investment if there is any.  We all know that when a company offers Bitcoin as an investment coupled with daily profit is a sure thing a scam because the system the company introduced is not sustainable.  Aside from that, if it is family money, it is considered conjugal if the person is married and should ask his partner's consent about the investment so that there will be no blaming when things go awry.

I know that journalist are too lazy these days to conduct thorough investigation before writing an article. Therefore, they decide to Write nonsense. Whatever altercations there was between the man and is wife has to connection with Bitcoin. It may even be that the man is dealing with anger issues and has been that hostile towards his wife. Definitely can't be Bitcoin. I don't believe them.

Who really cares about a single incident, you can read stories about arguments turning into murder with literally any reason for the argument, like political preferences. You shouldn't be so anxious about Bitcoin that you view any negative news featuring Bitcoin as a directed attack on it or a sign that public opinion will turn against Bitcoin.

Even unstable, disfunctional people can invest in Bitcoin, so it was just a matter of time until we would see these news coming up. As many have said, the problem isn't Bitcoin, but the man who is completely insane. Someone who can't afford the risk of losing money with BTC investment, shouldn't be investing on it, but in this case the roots of the problem go even further, as he took completely extreme measures in response to the loss, besides the fact he is also a possessive man who can't deal with the fact his wife doesn't want him anymore.

The normal reaction would be to let she go away and respect her decision, instead of shooting her and shooting his own leg right after. Completely out his mind... This person is a menace for society. Let's see what authorities are going to do with him.

What causes conflict is mixed understanding, mostly when it comes for family where husband and wife query over something else that's happened that most lead to fight 95% most be money involved. In the matter like this be family conflict to resolved has to deal with better quality education for the both parties to understand how Bitcoin works in the financial sector.

One of the most common reasons on why these kind of incident happens is on the time that there would really be that opposing decisions that had been made neither of the two considering that investment decisions
should really be done by both individual and would really be agreeing about the risks. If ever there are some bad decision makings or some party involved on why that investment turns out to be a loss then for sure
these kind of incidents could really happen specially if a certain person is really having that kind of temper issue or having no control despite of dealing with her wife which still ends up on shooting.

I could say also assume that there might be some cheating issues or something basing up on the statements given above by some members? If ever this one is attached
then i couldn't really blame out the guy in regarding on what happened because having those loses on investment + cheating would really be resulting into disaster.

That's right, one of the Golden Rules of investing says: never invest your last money. When you send them to the deposit, you need to mentally say goodbye to them. It's as if you need to forget about them, and continue your business. But unfortunately our human nature is such that we always hope for a miracle. And if someone has invested money, then he will most likely constantly look into the deposit, waiting for a profit and hoping that his life will change as soon as possible with the arrival of profit.

Looks like the husband did in this family, they could not lose this money... it was critical for them.

It’s not a mixed understanding but I believe the husband took off the steam of his anger on Bitcoin loss to his wife. Probably the wife is blaming him or something that will make him annoyed.

I sometimes experience this annoyance but in different matter but I never think to harm her. Not all people has a long temperance on handling anger especially when they are having a hard time with losses. This news is very intense but not worst since some people commit suicide due to investment losses.

Because we are not perfect, we can make things that makes our partner angry or sad. As a couple, they should have put it on their mind. As long as both of them is true to themselves and doing their best to make their partner happy, they will easily forgive their partner.

In terms of decisions, no matter what it is, if it's s about the money or any kind of stuff that need a decision, it should be talked to each other very well before making decisions.

Both of them have a role to the family and they must be responsible for that. Since the husband is the head of the family, even though he has the authority to decide, he must always consider the side of his wife. And in the wife, she must always trust and respect the decision of her husband. If the couple do that, what we saw in the Op will never happen to them.

Experiencing failure in investing is indeed a very painful thing and it will be more painful if the wife continues to blame the decisions we have taken in investing and this will be even more painful. Every person has different ways of being able to reduce their anger when failure occurs to them, so it would be better for us to be able to reduce our anger when we experience failure in any case because if we cannot overcome this of course we will make other mistakes and this will It is very detrimental to ourselves and even people around us also feel this.

Broadly speaking, the main point emphasised in the article is that the wife may take issue or rather blame the husband's choice because of the investment made, which makes the quarrel widen. But in any case, things like this become vague because we cannot see the outline, especially not finding anything related to this news.
Financial reasons are always troublesome in debates even if it is a husband and wife so in this case when indeed someone wants to invest but is still said to be a beginner then I think communication with the closest person will be important so that we also avoid mistakes and decisions that have been made of course it is the final result of the communication of the closest person (spouse).

What about the stock market then? We all know that Bitcoin is volatile and you never where it will end up when you will sell it. You are not at a loss until you sell your Bitcoin. If you don't sell, it's unrealized profit/loss. These unrealized profits/losses exist in many other sectors. The stock market is a perfect example that I can imagine right now.

I don't know what is the purpose of posting this here. If it's just news and OP wanted to discuss it, that's okay. But if you had any negative perspective, i would suggest to look for other options before blame Bitcoin.

Recently everyone i asked related to the bitcoin has an idea because of the era of NFT people committed to the crypto. Even in just a family if someone committing on it and the other family member support this they can now make a deal to make an investment but again its now a family decision and your only decision if they will going to hold or to sell their asset we cannot deny people don't want to lose their money invest in but the market in crypto is volatile so can be an argue to them if they will going to hold or to sell the result will comes up after they commit the decision and there's a blaming possible happen.

For me, when it really comes to crypto or Bitcoin, it's really difficult to handle if you involved your family especially if they have the mindset of quick and easy money. Actually based on my experience which is also from era of NFT where I told my family about it to invest in such good project and sell would gain you profits. So as they've heard the profits they actually agreed to invest but it's the worse, it's always about the argument where they instantly want the money bank. That's one of the problem that I have seen, which is they don't have that much knowledge about the crypto industry works. After I've gain profits I gave them the money then I've never let them involved once again due to this kind of situation which is really stressing and pressuring.

Invest in Bitcoin only as much money as you can afford to lose, investing more than that can definitely put you at risk. We have seen many people invest without understanding and sometimes they lose their investment money due to wrong decisions. If a person is thinking of investing money from his family, he must understand the basics. Also, if he decides to use his family savings to invest in Bitcoin, I'd say it's not a good sign at all. Also the story you have presented I think here the person has invested using his family funds and he has suffered. Also if you are a family member then invest with your savings never take such investment from family it is risky. Moreover, if a person invests using more of his money, he must invest in Bitcoin, although investing in Bitcoin will not have the fear of losing money but will have to wait for a long period of profit.

I don't understand why everyone blames bitcoin for everything or all crimes.
If someone is kidnapped and ransomed with Bitcoin, it's Bitcoin's fault. 
It is Bitcoin's fault if you buy a prohibited product through Bitcoin. 
What I don't understand is why you are blaming Bitcoin instead of catching the culprit. If criminals are caught and given appropriate punishment, criminals will be afraid to commit crimes. It is not only Bitcoin that is a crime but it is not like that at all. 

Many times it is seen that the in-laws torture the girl for the dowry money, here the blame should be on the dowry money instead of the in-laws. Instead of worrying about the way in which the crime is being committed, we should worry about the criminals.

the guy is a piece of shit.

put him to death 💀 and end the story.

Owning too many coins at 50k and freaking out when they are 25k then shooting your wife . deserves the death penalty.

degenerative traders acting this way can do it with beanie babies. I know a few people that went broke buying beanie babies

The root cause of the problem is indeed money, but the news was delivered in a misleading way, making it appear that Bitcoin is a bad investment. Some writers of stories or news choose to cast a negative image on Bitcoin because they know people are more likely to react to it than to create more informative posts to educate people about Bitcoin.

Just like in gambling, when a person is addicted, they tend to blame gambling, but the actual root cause is often irresponsible gambling.

One should understand that investment carries risk and it does not guarantee profit, regardless of what kind of investment.

He wasn't an investor but a trader. An investor doesn't just lose all his money like that. His loss must be recent because I doubt the guy would lose money in that FTX crash last year and wait a year to finally settle things with his angered wife, although everything is possible.

More likely he bought bitcoin when it was going up above 30k and sold everything at 26 or 25k

He was obviously mentally unstable since: The next day, the police continued their close monitoring of Kritsada, who was under stress and in pain after shooting himself in the leg.

all criminal cases involving bitcoin investors/traders are purely the fault of those people who did not control their emotions wisely. an investor/trader should have good emotional control, so that when they lose it will not cause disaster to the people around them.

and anyone who blames bitcoin for the mistakes they make means they don't understand investing or trading bitcoin. trading has risks and at any time someone can lose their money, and this is not only in bitcoin, but in almost all investment instruments. so blaming bitcoin for the criminal cases they have committed is not appropriate.

The mistake is not in Bitcoin, only individuals who think Bitcoin can provide wealth without having to work, this view is very bad, mistakes in investing definitely exist, especially in Bitcoin, it's not actually a loss, but the value of Bitcoin itself is decreasing, not disappearing, at least for people who invest. Here you have to be more patient and don't make your wife the cause of failure in everything

But the husband is still wrong if he was not tell to his wife is he use the money to invest in Bitcoin and explain about the risk. If he keep convincing his wife Bitcoin price will increase very high in very soon, it's not surprising how his wife complain it and ask for separation.

After all when someone is already married, there's no such husband's money or wife's money, it's a family money.

The media will do anything to portray bitcoin as the bad guy because that is where they get more views.
There are a lot of people who think they missed the opportunity to invest in bitcoin and don't miss any chance to spread hatred about bitcoin.

As far as this story is concerned I think nobody should do domestic violence whatever the reason be it.
Money will come go but the relationships we build with our closed ones shouldn't be impacted because of it.

There are many things to consider in cases like this and others similar: who bought the bitcoins? When were the bitcoin bought, before or after the marriage? Have they been bought using personal funds? Or using also the partner's funds? Did they agree to share everything? Did both know the other person bought cryptos? These are just the first questions that came up to my mind, every family situation is different.

That's true, the solution to any problem is not engaging in domestic violence, especially when this is happening between a man and a woman, there are some situations that we only to settle agrression with calm, loosing bitcoin isn't the end of life, moreover there's always a second chance for another opportunity to come and they can recover the loss again, when things like this happens, the two of them are expected to address it and settles it and everything come to an end, there are better ways of settling down dispute than been aggressive, there will always be more opportunities to come and invest and the market pumps.

What’s the conversation rate for 700,000baht against the USD? Can somebody do that for me?

Meanwhile, I went through the whole story with the provided link and it wasn’t really about bitcoins but, it’s been staged as the excuse here. I think bitcoin is being victimized in this whole dispute as, it was already a failed relationship between them both else, why would a couple live apart and why was the supposed husband scared the said wife would cheat on him.

The husband went too far and was really in on having the divorce option off the table for them but, the length he went is one that doesn’t fix any problems but instead, destroys the possibility of any further relations.

Living someone so much shouldn’t be showed in your quest to take their life rather than have anyone else have them but, in the sacrifices you could endure to enable them have there best and you share in there joys in life.

It's true, some media outlets seek public attention this way. I can see it every day when reading the news, as the media publish headlines saying that someone invested in bitcoin and lost a lot of money, but when you read further you come up with the real story, which is that the guy was scammed by people who said they would invest his money in bitcoin for him but really took the money and disappeared. It had nothing to do with bitcoin.
I wonder if that poor guy ever owned any bitcoin, or was scammed or sold levered futures contracts or something like that.

I do agree with your conclusion.

I think this incident may be regarded as one of domestic violence caused by the husband. It can involve any kind or type of currency but it just so happened that BTC was the main currency involved. People and news anchors should not literally take it and understood it that violence is linked with BTC; and vice versa. It just so happened that what was involved was BTC and it could be any other currency and the news would be the same.

it's really a heart-wrenching incident, I highlight here how important it is to educate yourself about investment, especially Bitcoin investment. before buying Bitcoin, anyone must understand how it works and its price volatility, when you buy Bitcoin and then hold it, you won't lose anything because of the amount the bitcoin you bought at the beginning remains the same, but when you sell it during a bearish market, you lose because the value you bought at the beginning is certainly different from when you sold it.

apart from that, it is important to communicate with your partner when facing market uncertainty.

roughly 20000 usd is 700000 baht.


but in that country it is cheap to live and salaries are low.

it is around 100,000 baht a month or 7 months is 700,000 baht.

I used google search and got 1,160,000 baht a year .

which I rounded to 100,000 baht a month

This is actually unavoidable if you like marrying your bitcoin because of greed, and your whole life turns with it. Once you start seeing things are not working based on your plan, you will start to feel uncontrollable and resort into making some family conflict because of your unfortunate outcome from bitcoin investment. It just proves that once you invest in bitcoin, be sure to be more open minded and never expect too much from your investment so you won’t get easily affected once it turns out not working according to your plan.

There are no Bitcoin-related issues between husband and wife or girlfriend and boyfriend that should escalate to resulting in domestic violence 👊😡👊; perhaps this kind of issue cannot even be cause by Bitcoin because it is the lack of self-control of the man that can cause him to carry out such action. There was a case where a woman caused her husband to lose a whole lot of money. I can't remember the figure, but it was a huge loss, and yet the man did not bounce on the wife because already she was feeling remorse. But it just all ended that she was forgiven and the fund was sourced from another dimension, but the action of the man was wrong.

you need to assess the overall situation you are in. and think about the repercussions your family will suffer if you do things out of your normal behaviour.
 in the case of this story, the husband lost about $19,500 from btc investments. for many people in thailand, that's a lot of money already. hence, his wife asked for separation but the husband dont want to. i guess, the lesson on this situation is, let your wife or husband knows about your crypto involvement and tell them the risks you are taking in. if they don't fully understand what you're doing and you're staking your family's savings, then for sure you will have big trouble with your family.

I disagree this type of person would simply find another thing to invest and lose in.

Then blame his family for putting pressure on him in the first place.

Thus it justified him shooting his loved one. He is and will continue to be a sick person. The world does not need that type of person in general.

Here is hoping they execute him. Or at least jail him.

This isn't about Bitcoin. It's about a person's inability to handle stress, emotions, and losses. If it wasn't Bitcoin, it could've been something else that acted as the trigger and the end result would have been the same. Shooting his wife. Rather than blaming Bitcoin, we should be blaming and looking into the anger management issue the person was having.  It's like blaming a car for an accident when it's the driver who was drunk and driving recklessly. And if you are still going to blame bitcoin, then why not blame the gun for the death and let the man free? Because it was a gun that killed her, not him... One more reason why people say that when investing bitcoin or anything, people should always be ready emotionally too.

You are quite right about that, and conflict because of an investment is not a problem, what is a problem is when family conflict occurs because of improper financial management which makes them have huge debts and makes their lives even more difficult. Investment is something that must be done to improve the economy and it must be done very carefully and wisely and in my opinion investing is a good thing if it is done with the right knowledge about Bitcoin not because of thinking this is an investment that can make you rich in a short time.

I don't read the news but sometimes news like this appears just to attract lots of readers to the website by creating stories that look dramatic but the reality is sometimes different from the truth.

The only solution to such related incident is to have patience with ones family member if they have emotional problem due to their investment outcome. Most people who are victims of this incident are actually the cause, an investor who had lost everything and not in his right mind should be treated well instead of engaging in argument with the person. As understanding partner or family member, you are to give that person some free space until they regain their mind or you keep them calm and advice them to be calm as they will still get their fund.
It is practically unwise to start argument on something that is not possible to be reversed at the moment, instead relax and strategize with them.  Wisdom is profitable to direct. Argument in most cases has led to serious crime, it's not even a matter if investment or not, argument on its own is not the best means to resolve issues.

Many who invest in bitcoins do not actually understand that you can not be a complete looser in the bitcoins space. You can loose today  due to bear market, you can also hit it hard  during the bull run. So investors needs to be educated on this. Investors should avoid investing what they can not loose in the bear market.

Bitcoin will give you profit if you understand it completely but if you don't understand then blaming bitcoin is useless. Bitcoin is just a way to earn but it is you who select your failure or win as you have to take decision accordingly and bitcoin never force you to select it.

I think it's not only bitcoin but if a person fails to get profit in any asset he will be angry with his family and its a human nature. They don't think that it is their fault that they don't manage their investment correctly if they do so then they will never be disappointed.

People don't get knowledge on time when they do not get success then they starts to combat with families and they consider bitcoin as a bad investment which is totally inaccurate opinion.

Obviously, it's the person. We can never blame Bitcoin, as it exists and some countries have already recognized it. It's always the lack of knowledge and the greediness to make easy money that will likely lead to losing money. It's okay if the investment is legitimate, but if it's a scam from the start, that's truly unacceptable.

That's a very good approach. In fact, I think that both the husband and wife should treat the situation by understanding each other.
If the husband has lost money then the wife should calm him down and console him and motivate him to find another opportunity and not fight with him.
On the other hand the husband should apologize to the wife for committing the mistake and make her understand how he lost so that they both don't lose the money the same way again.
If people start treating each other with respect and understand each other then half of the life's problems will not even occur from my perspective.

Almost everyone has experienced losing money in investing, but if we have a partner who understands each other when we experience losing money in investing, it will really help us in dealing with problems like this and we can correct the mistakes we have made so that we don't repeat the mistakes we made the same later. You are right that mutual respect in a relationship is very necessary, because no matter how difficult the problem we face, if we solve it together it will certainly be very easy to solve.

You're right, understanding matters alot in everything that we do, we could see many marriages suffering alot of disparity between the couples because they lack the adequate understanding they both would have worked on to be in concession with each other, this same lack of information and understanding is what causes many people who invested in bitcoin to loose and missed out out of fear and negligence, what attitude do we give to our assets, how determined are we to see them productive, what are the steps we take to ensure this happens and turns a reality, this is not about nthe excitement of being an investor, we need the knowledge in understanding how bitcoin network works and we also need to know how we can manage risk.

No matter how unmarried people imagine the complexity of life in a family, they will always underestimate the real complexity. It is necessary that the characters be similar, the attitude to life and cleanliness in the apartment, and of course the attitude to money. As far as I understood from the news, it is unlikely that his now deceased wife gave him permission to invest so much money. Women do not take such risks with money, so men generally do not ask permission to invest money. Apparently she asked about these almost 20k, and her husband had already lost it.
They were necessary for the life of this family, at a time when only extra money could be invested.The loss will not change the financial situation of the family.

From the cases that OP presented in this discussion and the news included related to violence due to investment failures that caused a heartbreaking incident.

I have a few questions related to the investment made, is it in short -term investment, or trading or something else?
I assume that the investment made is a short term that can draw the conclusion that it should invest it has a safe financial management, meaning that it should not use the all money they have to buy bitcoin, while other needs rely on money from the money in investment, of course when the market does not In accordance with what is expected will make a loss, on the other hand the need to continue to be urgent to be fulfilled, it is natural that this married couple experiences quarrels in it because they do not use good financial management and good discussions with their wives before investing.

A family can be strong if the spouses can plan their future together, if they have a common budget, a common vision of where they are going and how they can achieve their goals. A lot of things are important, they maintain balance in the family, sometimes you need to make concessions, it’s really not easy. I noticed that if a family is wealthy, then they have significantly fewer conflicts over finances. If one spouse is more responsible for the finances, then financial management should be his responsibility, but if the other spouse does not support an investment because he sees it as a big risk, then you need to find another investment, family is most important.

Profit or not profit from investing in Bitcoin is determined by us as holders, if greed continues this will have bad consequences in the future. What at first we were going to hold for the long term ended up selling cheaply or cutting losses because our mentality was quite disturbed because prices continued to fall. instead it is a good opportunity to buy again. Expecting too much from an investment you don't believe in will only weigh on the holder's mind. Bitcoin is the number one digital asset, so what is there to doubt, just hold on for the long term and just enjoy the profits later, nothing is instant.

Bitcoin is just a tool, so it’s nothing to do with any conflict that has arise but it’s all about the person who dares to invest in bitcoin without evaluating himself first if he can actually manage the risk of losing. And because he’s insane and highly greedy, when he start losing from bitcoin, he eventually turn to other people to blame and let his emotions out, thus putting the wife in a very terrible situation that she even herself can’t hardly imagined.

I don’t think bitcoin is to blame for this. First off, they must’ve had toxic familial relations to begin with. Losing so much on bitcoin is just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Bitcoin doesn’t bring the worst out of people, they are already fucked up from the get-go. They just happened to find an outlet through bitcoin.

With that being said I hope some form of recluse or recovery is achieved. While this is more on the severe side family is still family and a matter of discussion and setting aside differences and past transgressions should do the trick. That i if they’re willing to admit to being in the wrong and all that stuff.

I agree, it is not Bitcoin that created the scenario to happen.  It is the action and decision of the husband.  If the husband did not decideds to invest their money on Bitcoin and loses it, the wife would not have any reason to split up.  It is the husband's action that fuels it not the Bitcoin.

The shooting incident is also not caused by Bitcoin, it is the husband's jealousy and paranoia that caused the crimes.  Bitcoin has nothing to do with the shooting incident.

Most of the replies in here said that Bitcoin is not the one to blame, and I agree. And this could be avoided if the couples were more open to each other. I believe it's not just the husband money, it's the couple's money, and most likely that it's not a cold money, could be their saving, after all if the money is to be invested in anything both should have a discussion, so both understand the risk.

I sympathize to those who are struggling to open up their crypto investment to their family. However, our part is to make sure that once we explain it to them, they have the initial idea of it and avoid surprising them with result. Ofcourse it is normal to suffer from losses not only in Bitcoin but also with other investments. Think of a better way to say it; partial loss and may still be turned to winnings if you will choose to hold. We cannot blame them to view it negatively especially if they know nothing about it but this excludes violence in any form. If you have a choice to be silent about it or secretive then that would be better as well to lessen the risk of escalation.

Of course family is the most important thing but if someone sacrifices time to understand and learn something before investing, then also the partner should do the same and have a serious discussion about it: if you want to invest in BTC, stock market, or whatever, and you did your homework, you're spouse can't simply say no based on his/her personal perception of that idea, they actually have to explain why it's better not to do it. And "it's too risky" it's not an answer.

Bitcoin gets blamed for everything. The media associates it with anonymous criminal activities blah blah blah. From the story, looks like the wife just wanted out of the marriage and was just waiting for the perfect reason to divorce the guy.

and the point is that discussing with your family or partner is very important to do, in order to find the point where the investment is good or not to continue and what are the things that should not be done.

Openness with discussion will give good results, so that everyone can know what is being done and strived for.

I have a small family and I always say what I will buy this week to add to my crypto investment accumulation I convince them by saying that the market is in a bearish period and will benefit from investing now and selling it when the market is in a bullish period later.

That way there is no conflict about the investment issues made because it has gone through a good and open discussion process.

Unfortunately, spouses often have different opinions about money. I read that there are three types of family relationships in terms of money, and we will assume that the husband is always an investor:
1) the husband is an investor - the wife is an investor
2) the husband is an investor - the wife trusts him with money
3) the husband is an investor - the wife of a spender.
Obviously, the most productive relationship is number 1. Regarding the last relationship, many believe that it is impossible to fix a wife in this type of relationship, and the best way would be divorce. After all, living with a ranking investor will never be able to accumulate the required deposit.

It's the husband that's at fault.

He bought bitcoin not knowing what he's buying.
He was weak-minded and couldn't hold long enough to reach profit.
He sold at a loss. He attacked his wife and he injured himself, now he will go to jail, without money and woman to wait for him.

Greed made him lose everything. He wanted more money, he never cared about bitcoin, nor his wife. It was all about himself and making more fiat money!

It would be a mistaken fact for someone to blame bitcoin totally to be the cause of a husband shooting his wife over the loss of money investing in bitcoin. How can someone think of such whereby bitcoin is not actually the cause of it but to their lack of knowledge and forgetting fact to the term that says ''You never lose your bitcoin investment unless you decide to sell''

Before the miscommunication that resulted in the shooting, I think both parties(the husband and wife) would have learnt to hold on and wait patiently for the bull run to commence before taking laws in each other hand.

I understand what you mean but very often, probably too often, it's difficult to have a productive discussion with people because they their idea, usually based on "someone told me that" or "I read on Facebook that", and they are not open to discuss it because in reality they don't know what they are talking about. Fortunately my wife supports me on crypto but when I talked years ago with friends many of them decided not to invest because their girlfriends (not even wives) told them not to do it because, in their opinion, bitcoin was a scam. Opinions based on who knows what. Now of course they deeply regret the decision...

The short term investment is not the true solution to any investment,because it take time for the market to response for the good pump.If the OP speaking with the short term,he should understand himself about the important of the long term investment.Since he made some investment,the long term holding is the essential one.Many traders was successful today by the holding for the longer period.If you are still not satisfied with my answer,you can ask any of your old trader friend about the long term holding.

I think there is nothing wrong with short-term and long-term investments, only different strategies. The advantage of short-term investments is that you can get repeated profits because you invest repeatedly, while long-term investments only get one profit. So both have their respective advantages and benefits and nothing is better between the two

I think everyone has their own investment style, as long as they are comfortable and can make a profit, there is no need to debate.

No clear evidence on the 700000 baht. Whether he invested it, or he lost in gambling or he did something else. Nothing is revealed and with the minimal information available we can't point bitcoin as the reason behind it. He might have invested into bitcoin, but where does the loss had happened isn't known. Looking upon the day full of stress it looks like the person had lost it in gambling. Through trading it isn't possible to experience such a massive loss all of the sudden as there is not much of market fluctuation.

Bitcoin does not have any problem. It is common when people two engage themselves about things concerning money and if it doesn't work well at the end it will turn to conflict. I think it is an investment that made these two persons to have misunderstanding,  bitcoin wasn't the cause. Money has always cause family,  friends to be in disagreement. Because of the volatility of bitcoin it is best for investment to be one man investment instead of friends, family members  go into a joint investment that can result to a serious problem when investment does not comes out as targeted.

We understand for that and I do not affirm that my behavior is right here, and I think everyone also wants to invest in the long term if he is able to do it. But it seems that the person behind it depends on the investment that is made, which will make a short -term investment to take advantage in order to survive, and yes he failed in the end, resulting in losses that make his finances messy.


I am also a little ambiguous by connecting it to Bitcoin, but if that person plays gambling or trading and or buying shitcoin it has a major chance that can cause losses in his investment. The media does not seem to give a clear explanation of that, I think some people will have the wrong assumptions with what actually happened.

As an investor if you can't take responsibility for your loss then you're not ready for what's ahead, before you find yourself in a high place talking about being rich there must be risk involved so when you're in you don't need to blame anybody for any negative results that comes out, like in the investment world we should always expect the bad side of it first.

Not tips but experience as a married person. When a problem occurs to a husband, not everything needs to be conveyed to the wife. Husbands must be able to separate everything, for example personal matters that occur outside the house are not brought into the house to avoid negative things happening such as uncontrolled emotions.
After I read the news link, this was pure self-control that the husband couldn't exercise, which ended up shooting his wife, not because of bitcoin.

I hope this story is not cooked up by anti-bitcoin groups for negative information in spreading news as if the murder occurred because of bitcoin.

It is definitely a family matter and Bitcoin is being unnecessarily dragged in on the matter. A lot of families have problems, a lot of them might be because of their finances and financial crisis or investment failures, but I've never seen anyone blaming the investment method for the problems someone is having just because their investment didn't work the way they wanted it to. If their investment failed, it's probably because they didn't do their homework very well.

It's the person who has done the investment and lost the money who is to be blamed for the whole thing. If he didn't have any experience or knowledge about the market or such investments, he shouldn't have done it in the first place, and if he did it and lost the money, it's on him and not on Bitcoin.

This is correct. It is obvious that there are other factors that are included in this dispute, probably family problems that haven't been discussed and kept piling up, and what happened with the Bitcoin lost may have triggered the last straw. However, to solely include and mention Bitcoin without putting the whole context is unjust. It is not fair to blame Bitcoin because Bitcoin is just the currency and the investment as well as every decision and action made with Bitcoin is all in the hands of the person holding it, therefore the blame should be put to them. Honestly, this is just another way for the media or news to put a stain on Bitcoin's image because they saw an opportunity, a bad case with Bitcoin being mentioned, a little tailoring of info and they have the perfect controversial news. Nothing new on this, just another negative hit for Bitcoin made by those who either do not understand it so they hate it or just those who never believed in it.

Every form of investment have got risk. Based on the level of risk will be the profit. As said things could happen positive or the same could go negative. It all depends on how well we manage and predict the market. At times things coincide and give good profit and the same could go in the opposite way.

Keeping ourselves ready to experience experience the worst case scenario will ease to overcome such investment problems. Anyhow it is the lack of understanding or the mistake from the person involved, and unwantedly bitcoin is connected with the incident. Whether it is bitcoin or any other investment, if things weren't handled properly loss will be the outcome.

Money causes these kind of problems most of the time if not all the time. Usual family problems stem out from conflict in finance and/or properties. The same rule applies to bitcoin. Bitcoin, specifically, doesn’t have anything to do with this horrible story however in general, the concept of investment and profits and losses can all be causes of family problems. It’s unfair to blame these kind of things solely on bitcoin.

There are several options for resolving the dispute over investments in bitcoin:
- don't tell anyone about your BTC-investments until a certain point, even your wife or husband, in order to avoid influencing your investment strategy and the emergence of conflict situations due to the right moment of sale bitcoin.
- exchange your wife or husband for a person who will not interfere in your affairs with bitcoin, at least until you get rich and your beloved half wants to take half from you.:)

People will always blame anything but themselves for their problems. This time the accusation went to the bitcoin.

This wouldn't be an issue if in the first place, you did not risk the money that you can't afford to lose in investment. Which results to unstable emotional and mental health that also affects the people that surrounds you. Bitcoin is not literally to blame in family conflict, if you're planning to invest as a family, of course all of you has to be well knowledged in something that you will risk your money with, such as Bitcoin. Investment is actually good to take especially in a family, but if you're not yet financially stable as you'll have to provide your needs, you really need to exert effort to have extra money for investment.

Basically, when it comes to investing in Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in particular, it's important not to use all of your money. We need to manage our finances, for example, by only using 10-20% of our income, and the rest should be allocated for other needs.
In the life we live, it's also essential to have an emergency fund, so that whenever we have unexpected expenses, the money is already available.

Am not a marriage counselor of any sort but seeing conflict, husband, and wife all in one sentence..this  spells out communication breakdown, and for a marriage to work the foundation is built on it!

Btw reading through the article, am made to believe the wife wanted out of the marriage and  she was patiently waiting  for her man to f**kup which he did and  her wish became true...this has nothing to do with the crypto investment the husband lost!
And unfortunately, the article is equally poorly written as it has left out some valuable information leaving us to speculate on what happened, and from what I have got from the article.. this has kind of painted a picture of husband and wife living in  two seperate homes and a jealous husband that doesn't want to move on..otherwise this turned out o be some telenovela lol

Ideally, that’s should be the case but I think when it comes to investment, husbands are more aggressive to participate that even if their spouses are against with it, still they will pursue it without them knowing. And when they start losing, that’s when they realized that their wives should know about it, and when these wives overreacted to it, these frustrated husbands suddenly lose their control and burst out with anger.

The truth is that people will always complain. Not even Jesus who gave his life for us escaped humans grumble. Many people have said that Bitcoin is used for negative things like money embezzlement, tax evasion, fraud and scams, drug trade, and many others which has always needed a way to wipe it's footprint. But when you think of these things, all of them have been here before the creation of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a tool like a knife; one can use it to cut something loose while another can use it to st*b someone. It all depends on what for and how it is used - it creates no direct cause!

Right. Men and women are too different by nature. We understand how hard money is given and any opportunity to earn more, and maybe even make a life change affects us very much. m. we know the value of money - it's a very hard routine, with responsibility and boredom, working with people we don't like, and so on (I mean ordinary fulltime work). And women, in fact, do not care where a man will bring money from and how much he will get tired in their search. Knowing this, men are ready to hide investments, taking risks, but realizing that if, for example, tomorrow the yuitcoin will be 100 thousand dollars, then this will strongly encourage him to forget about the hated fulltime work.

Your points are valid, but I don't believe it is wise for a family man who isn't wealthy enough to invest in bitcoin, not to mention any other investment that might result in a loss or a gain. The main issue with investors today is that they don't think things through. Even those who can't provide for their families may invest in bitcoin because of the gain they heard. Bitcoin is a long-term investment, and this is the first thing we need understand before becoming involved in anything involving investing. Bitcoin is not a gambling game that you will wager on and be waiting for the game to enter and cash out that very day.

A man who has a family to support, isn't particularly wealthy, and still wants to invest in bitcoin is greedy because your family can't be suffering while you are holding a coin. Additionally, investing from the family budget shows that the man is uninformed because if he knew what he was doing, he would never consider doing so because family savings are intended for family financial issues, and if a man touches them the wife has the right of way.

There are obviously a few things wrong with the husband and he can't blame his problems on Bitcoins. Violence is never an option and someone that hurts other people has nothing to do with crypto currencies and bitcoin. We don't really know what went on before the issue and can only speculate which is not going to help. An investment loss is never the reason to hurt anybody, and it also doesn't matter if this was a Bitcoin or stocks or other form of investment. He could have lost a lot of money in a real estate deal or bought an investment fund that is struggling, leading to large loss. There are so many ways you can lose money these days and this will affect your family life. Most spouses will have a dispute over their finances from time to time as husband and wives usually have different ideas about how to invest and spend their money. As long as people can communicate there is not an issue and it's a healthy relationship. Unfortunately, violence happens in any country and there is no excuse for it. Maybe there were signs before that the relationship turned toxic and they should have split up. The blame can't be put only Bitcoins, people are still responsible for their actions and this was not a healthy relationship before investing in Bitcoins.

For sure none government will tell you that all of these problems arise because you are underpaid, you pay tax on your salary, when you visit the store, you pay product that also has to pay taxes, you have to pay property tax even if you build and own house, you have to pay vehicle tax, there are so many taxes, we only get almost 1/4 of our salary in pocket, everything else goes to government but this is not the cause of violence and crime, it's bitcoin because bitcoin is no different from gambling. It's funny that this bullshit story actually works on people.

Bitcoin itself is not the root of the problem, it is more about how it is being managed and who does. Sometimes, people get caught up in the hype and invest more money than they can afford to lose then find themselves to financial stress and family conflicts. If you have your own family, I think it is necessray to let them know what you are investing into. While Bitcoin is part of the issue, we should focus educating ourselves first.

That's why I'm simply not telling anyone where to invest. My friends and family know that I have BTC, and when they ask I tell them that I truly believe in it, but it's still a risk that I'm willing to take.

Yeah, that's true, and I believe he is not the only one, most of people who buy never cared about the technology or the solution that it's bring, proven by that Bitcoin was still considered as an investment assets rather than a currency, even many people in this forum preferred Bitcoin to stay as an investment asset with high volatility rather than a reliable currency.

The man is at fault for using domestic violence instead of learning from where things went wrong, now he will probably be jailed for this, meaning he is suffering from two losses and charges due to his impatience, it is normal for your partner to walk out of your life if they see that a new big failure have strike their partner, meaning they start living a very hard life before things start going back the way they used to.

His Violence solution makes me think he gamble the money away, I could be wrong but gamblers result into violence when they lose a large amount of money, there is a possibility that the woman already warned him about using such an amount of money to take risks, I found women to be more cautious when it comes to taking risk to gain more money, and they are there to help men as their partner, even when it comes to financial decisions.

Now this man lost all his money, and now he hurt his woman for leaving him, he will still have to face the law again, now everyone knows that he is involved with crypto, imagine is crypto is banned in this country, it will be an extra charge for him, he made the wrong choice and I hope he learn.

I can't find any reason to blame bitcoin and if you unknowingly buy bitcoin and then lose it's never bitcoin's fault. You should know that there are many big investors in bitcoin and it's price is not stable so catching the dip price at the right time will be profitable. You should keep money separately for family living and with extra money you can start any other type of business and it can be crypto. No one will expand the business because there will be risk for any business! This is an accusation of unethical behavior so in crypto you can buy token but definitely review with experience.

You've touched on something profound here, especially with the family-first perspective. At its heart, Bitcoin, like all investments, is a leap into the uncertain future. It's more than just numbers on a screen; it reflects our hopes, fears, and, sometimes, our reckless desires. Now, thinking about the modern economic landscape, the temptation to jump onto the crypto bandwagon is real. But you're right; investments should never jeopardize immediate family needs. The tricky part is balancing the immediate with the long-term, especially in a world that's changing at breakneck speed. The question we should perhaps ask ourselves before every investment decision is, "Am I doing this for a better future, or am I letting greed blind me?"

Yes ,you are right. If we have no knowledge of Bitcoin ,you should not invest in  Bitcoin.For bitcoin investment ,someone needs time to
get knowledge.Knowledge is more important than money. For Bitcoin investment and trading ,systematic approach and trading signals are very important.
Systematic approach is very important to investment in Bitcoin.Many people put burden on family and don't earn money.They only want to be millionaire only by investment in Bitcoin .This is not possible .

The problem is people invest in Bitcoin without knowing it's nature. People are not interested in learning things even when they plan to invest there. There is no guarantee that Bitcoin will be at a higher price than today after exactly six months. There is no specific time frame to cash out the profits from Bitcoin investment. They have to wait for a suitable time to cash out the profits. Another problem is people think Bitcoin will always go up in price which is not true. It's volatile and this is the nature of Bitcoin. The stock market fluctuates as well. So, why blame Bitcoin only when there are similar things that are volatile as well?

blaming bitcoin is unquestionable because if it scams then very early people will accept this fact but we know that how much money bitcoin offered to its holders from years so if we blindly make decision then we cannot understand the fact but if we understand the characteristics of bitcoin then we can easily get advantage.

I want to say that if anyone don't like Bitcoin then it's up to him that don't invest money because bitcoin never force you to make investment as well as another person cannot make pressure on you to make the choice of buying bitcoin therefore if it is necessary for you to not go towards investment but also don't make negative concept regarding bitcoin in other's mind. Utilize your strength to accept the truth that bitcoin never ruin you but you ruin yourself using little knowledge and then unfurl misunderstanding about bitcoin.

This is the same reason why we should be careful of whatever project we are promoting because we don't know what kind of people read our promotions on social media and in any other crypto community. we need to be vigilant and direct to the point when explaining the risk they are about to take when they decide to invest whether in bitcoins or altcoins so that we free ourselves from any blame in the future if something wrong happens to their investments.

The problems blamed on others is the one thing I try to avoid in my own persona life. Even if it's obvious that I am not the one who did something wrong, I could still end up trying to figure out a way that I could live without needing something major, like even if someone else did something wrong to me, I could still sit down and think about why that happened, it doesn't have to be me that made the mistake, I could still find a reason why I couldn't avoid others making a mistake to me.

In this case, the investor should have been smarter about it, if you have a bad marraige and you want to hide your money, bitcoin isn't the way to go with all the KYC we are doing these days, it would come up eventually in divorce proceedings.

If you are married I guess your wife is supposed to know some things, and bitcoin can be a tricky situation: if you bought those bitcoins years and years ago it's way easier to keep them hidden; if you are buying them while you are already married then she could notice some strange bank transfers and/or missing money, and if you go through a divorce for sure the lawyers would notice those transfers.

The mindset of making quick profits using small capital is a big problem that continues to be planted in people's minds today, so that in the end they have to deal with losses and deception from other people. I never agree when people say Bitcoin is a fraud because as long as we invest in Bitcoin, if we do it correctly and precisely we don't incur any losses, only individuals who use Bitcoin to deceive other people. Last year in the area where I live, many people experienced losses based on investments and after I investigated them they took advantage of fake investments that had nothing to do with Bitcoin.

There will be many stories that continue to be developed regarding bitcoin and if someone understands the patterns and ways of investing in bitcoin then they will be calm in facing these conditions. We can never make people avoid fraud and loss, but we have a moral responsibility to straighten this out with family, friends and other people we know well. At least when we explain something true to them, there is a little filter that can make them think.

Seeing individuals tricked left, right, and center is really annoying. They frequently fail to realize, as we have repeatedly observed, that Bitcoin is not a scam in and of itself. Its the way certain dubious people and organizations use it. Its like blaming the entire internet for one fake email, right?

I've been involved in the Bitcoin space for a while now, and I can tell you that the amount of times I've heard someone claim to have been duped by a scheme to "double your Bitcoin in 24 hours" is just too high! Regarding the issue in your community, con artists frequently utilize the name of Bitcoin to entice victims. They take use of its intricacy. We need to exercise caution.

It is imperative that we educate our friends and family. Even while kids might not learn everything at once, their level of caution will increase as they learn more. Which person will I counsel if everyone becomes an expert? Im kidding. Keep the good message going and be safe out there.

For me the internet world is not surprising if many frauds occur because if people are unable to verify something in detail will provide a gap for certain elements to commit fraud. But that does not mean that the internet needs to be blamed but certain people who need to learn to understand further about the internet trip and vice versa about Bitcoin.

That is why knowledge space is very important for everyone and many cases of fraud in the name of Bitcoin even though it is not proven to be caused by Bitcoin. But unfortunately the community does not learn from these mistakes and is always trapped by a large profit promise from investment and the severity of fraud that occurs not only involving ordinary people. In fact, many highly educated people also feel fraud because they do not have knowledge about the right investment.

I do not intend to become a bitcoin teacher for others because I myself still want to add insight about it, but if it relates to my family is the responsibility to provide understanding to them. Some people are difficult to advise and they will be tempted by the promise of a big return so that our advice is not necessarily listening to, that is why for me it is better to provide understanding to the family or close friends compared to others.

Depends on the people thinking, what are the thoughts of the people on trading, bitcoin, etc. In our society(I'm talking about myself) people didn't consider trading as a better source of earning and getting profit. So, some people are against trading, so obviously these all are against bitcoin. Almost a lack of knowledge of people who don't have a single knowledge of trading about bitcoin but still they are against bitcoin because they don't know what is bitcoin.
If they gain some knowledge about Bitcoin, then they will make a difference between trading and other stories they are making. These two are completely different things.

Bitcoin is very unpredictable but people still try their best to predict it of making profit from their own prediction. I think people don't understand bitcoin the way it is but they try to understand it in their own way that is why they always end up bad with it. Their is nothing difficult about investing bitcoin,  the main thing is to know that the market is very volatile .if people are ready to learn bitcoin they won't have to blame bitcoin, they blame bitcoin because they do not do things the way it is suppose to be done.

This is not the problem of bitcoin, neither did bitcoin cause the problem in that home. There are different investment areas and when it comes to the family or couple, they have to discuss and agree on the investment they want to go into and both parties should know the disadvantage or advantage, profit or losses accruing in the investment.

So regards to bitcoin investment, the both parties are suppose to discuss on it and agree on whatever that will come from it. Of course, bitcoin is volatile and can move either way and the investor could either smile at the end or have some laugher at the end, so that is the simple truth of that.

A home that is fragile already, is waiting to be dismantled at any slightest provocation.

There are different set of people which we have in this life, there are people who are just living their life looking for means to put all their failure as blame to others which most people have been using bitcoin as an excuse to why they don’t make it in life, some as an excuse to why crime and other means of illegal activities is happening, but deep down they just fail to realize and accept the fact that they they are mostly the cause of their own problem.

Some issue and problem has already long been existing before the bitcoin came into the picture, but today most country government sees it as a digital currency which promote the illegal trade of drugs, firearms and other things which are contraband and could have not been possible to be purchased in the open market, but no those things and such trade has already been happening long before now and those involve just have to notice how bitcoin could also be used.

Just as you have said we don’t have to blame bitcoin for anything, but those who are using it wrongfully or those who have failed to realize it’s true potentials are the one to be blame for anything bad which it has been used for.

The incident seems to me entirely due to a misunderstanding between each other. How is it that the wife will divorce the husband because the husband lost by investing in Bitcoin. However, I could not understand whether there was a rift between them before. It is not unusual for a husband who is naturally not in a good state of mind to get angry if his wife says something more negative. But what the husband did wrong was to shoot him. There may be quarrels in a family but it should be within a limit. When they exceeded their limits an accident occurred. But the main issue here is the lack of knowledge or education. An investor must be cautious in any investment. After investing in Bitcoin, if he had been cautious and not excited, there might have been an opportunity to profit again. A long-term holding would have created an opportunity to profit. But instead of doing that they have reached the level of murder which is never desirable.

If you are really that too optimistic on the money or fund that you have invested on Bitcoin and really that anticipating or expecting something very positive then you would really be ending up something like this on which you are really that expecting that you would really be making profits without even trying out to realize on how volatile it is.On the time that you've seen that your investment goes south then anger would be felt and basing up on OP stating up a particular situation on which i do believe that there are some trading sessions ending up on negative on which the husband didnt instruct something? But still in overall it isnt really just that right
that investing errors and unpredictable conditions would really be resulting into this. Its never been that a mistake if we do really go against with the trend because it is one of the most common scenario on trading or investing in crypto is that prices is really that moving into a certain extent on which hurting out already your family members specially your wife.

This doing isnt something that a correct thinking or right minded person would really be doing.You are just simply showing that you are already that too impulsive and having that emotion problems
or doesnt have that anger management on which you do really ends up on that kind of act on which it is something not that really right at all.

it  may, or may not.

Wife might be trying to find way to leave the husband , but there are other twist , because woman mostly trying to stay of the marriage as long as they can.

so lets not jump to blame the WIfe in this because we don't really know what really happened to why this comes this far.

Just found out about this topic and the average answer is of course Bitcoin only as an investment instrument that is defeated when it fails and goes bankrupt because of Bitcoin.
But it cannot be the main reason to be blamed, because it is a risk that must be borne by anyone who enters for investment.

Before deciding to enter Bitcoin, it's good to think about what risks will occur and not use the money used for other needs,
so that when the investment fails, there is nothing to blame.

In this incident, the wife did not understand what Bitcoin investment was about and only knew how her husband lost a large investment value which eventually caused an argument that ended in shooting his wife.

As a wife, you should support and provide motivation so that you don't get too stressed, but if coupled with fighting it will be a big disaster like the news.

It is human nature that always suggests not to take the risky way. Trading as a profession is not so common in some parts of the world. For not being a part of the educational curriculum some people think this isn't a topic to study about and that it is just a place for wealthy businessmen to bet with their assets. You can keep bitcoin trading aside These people don't even have any knowledge about trading. 

If someone is thinking about starting a career in trading then he should start with less volatile markets like gold, silver, oil, forex etc. Crypto is a volatile but rewarding sector so at some point in his training career a trader should think about adding the bitcoin market to his trading portfolio if he thinks he can handle the stress and risk.

That's tragic.

I agree to OP about forgetting the main reasons why we invest and why we're thriving too hard and that's not for our sake but for the sake of our family.

Some may have their own ulterior reasons that will also be good for their future but I guess the majority has a common denominator why we invest and work hard, and that's to give our families a better life.

Do not forget that goal guys even if it's costing you losses. Don't get into that type of heated argument that you'll get to hit and hurt someone you love, avoid that.

Sometimes there are still some who ignore the risks of investing in bitcoin maybe they do ALL IN hoping to get even bigger profits, when failure occurs that's where emotions overflow and will blame anyone even not themselves.

Maybe when the husband loses a lot of money that should motivate the wife to want to separate and ask for divorce here the conflict becomes big when the husband's emotions overflow, the wife will become a victim even though the wife is not guilty because the husband's money just disappeared without him knowing it.

What is clear is that he does not have a reserve fund when he experiences a large loss he cannot cover his needs until it becomes a quarrel, this incident should not happen to us.

Its a well-known pattern in the world of crypto investing, right? In search of exponential returns, people often dive deep without a life jacket, only to understand the dangers too late. First, Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are appealing because they can disrupt the economy. Its decentralization and limiting supply offer immunity to economic downturns. Any investment has risk. Diversification is common sense yet often ignored.

Financial stress always affects relationships. A husband's losses causing marital problems emphasizes the need of open communication in relationships. Significant financial adjustments must be communicated to partners. Any financial loss can be overcome by trust and understanding. However, its about knowing one's investment limits and not overextending. No possible gain is worth the chance of having one's life fall apart.

Just imagine bitcoin investment causing domestic violence, surprising how the couples lack understanding in their marriage, if there's anything that will cause domestic violence bitcoin should not be involved anything concerning investment or asset should be excluded. Bitcoin is just an asset, an investment scheme so what is bad there.
If probably he used the family money or money set aside for something else to invest in bitcoin that is very bad but not resulting to domestic violence cause domestic violence should never be an option. Secondly one thing have observe about people who say evil about bitcoin they just keep blabbing and spreading false news, they just keep repeating the same thing about bitcoin and the most funniest part is that bitcoin continues to grow.

This is what often triggers commotion in every household, not only in the case reported by the OP. Sometimes when investing you don't think about the risks involved, so many people invest by doing all this without hope of getting multiple profits. Know how to invest but want to know about the risks.

If you have lost a lot of money, sometimes it is difficult to control your emotions, especially when your husband feels great jealousy by visiting his house every day and his wife asks for a divorce, this is indeed a position that is difficult to control.

This is the point. Whatever investment we have, we must have reserve funds, because future events cannot be predicted.

If you have a partner in life and you have joint finance, communication should be done in every big step that you to do in both of your money, investing is one of them. Investing a marriage joint money is a hard decision for me to be honest because a lot of trust is involved in it especially if you are the one engaging in the act. There should be at least an agreement or a simple walk through what the investment is. Investing in crypto carries a lot of risk and having no approval to your other half in investing in it will put another risk in it like having a potential divorce when you f***-uped. It's important that you both learn the risk and the potential projected result if it fails or not, of course going all in or not is the decision of both individual depending on their risk appetite.

The problem detailed in the OP wasn’t really bitcoin when you break it down. Anybody who is willing to kill a family member has serious problems. To take a life is such a big thing, there is obviously some deeper rooted problem with the guy in the OP’s post. I don’t think bitcoin can be blamed for things like this, if it wasn’t bitcoin then there probably would have been some other trigger, the guy is obviously mentally unstable. RIP to the deceased, such a tragic waste of life.

I am sure that in 90 percent of families, a man is the one who saves money and earns it, and a woman spends it: buying new iPhones and wanting to fill an overflowing closet with unnecessary clothes. And even if a man tries to start a dialogue on the topic of saving or investing in cryptocurrencies, then all he will achieve is a misunderstanding on the part of a woman. Therefore, there is violence in the family on the basis of money. Women are spenders in most cases.

The major problem faced by many people today is the absence of knowledge as to what you want to invest your funds into, if you must invest your money in anything apart from Bitcoin, you have to inquire about it, you don't just jump into conclusion, secondly don't invest what you can't afford to lose,  Bitcoin is a volatile as we know it to be, you should expect two events to occur, is either your investment increase in profit or decline as the case may be, in this case, if the man had gone on the wide search for the knowledge before investing his hard-earned money in Bitcoin, this would have not happened, I think he has learned in a hard way, such is life, when you make a mistake in life take the blame no matter the action if people towards you, just try as much as possible to convince them to believe you.

We should always settle any family issues with the family to avoid further problem or difficulties. We need to understand that Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and if we don't understand or patient enough to buy and hold for a longer time, we might finally lose our capital because of impatience. There are people that have sold their holdings because they could nit wait for the market to retrace to the position where they bought so that they can make profits from the market. Once an investor whether rich or poor is able to understand how the market operate, they will be able to make profits from the market whether big or small depending of the Capital invested.

 I feel like theirs is no point trying to prove a point to anybody, i feel most people reason too much  about what other people feel about them and that they fail to unleash their full potentials, also we will go astray if you investing to impress anyone. Even when you are looking for success in what’s ever field of interest we should still strive to be humble and cut our coat according to our size. The main purpose of going into any business or investment is for the betterment of your life and that of your loved ones.
 A good investor will make proper research before investing, because knowledge is power and without knowledge one will make mistakes and impulsive decision. If not properly educated on the platform and how to go about it you might see complications with even understanding the interphase. So before you make any move what so ever do your research first.

I see that the news also doesn't seem to be entirely because of Bitcoin, it seems that because of Bitcoin there are murders that seem to accompany Bitcoin public opinion which can lead to crime. Even though someone could kill because of other things that could be the trigger, it's just that in this case it was triggered by family commotion and excessive jealousy which led to the murder. Losing bitcoin is true, but the main problem is not because bitcoin necessarily has other problems. Yes, I am sorry for the deceased. This momentary life is to be enjoyed, not to commit heinous acts that cause death.

How is it even possible to conclude that bitcoin is a cause for domestic violence.Arguably,a decline in the overall wellbeing of the family as a result of poor financial management can cause a failure in the marriage.Could it be that one of the partner have mismanaged the family's savings or funds for irrelevant activities.

However,Financial stress/decline can lead to domestic violence in the family,Many people in thier marriages do not have access to finances;most times you'll hear the victim say things like "He controlls all the money,I had to account for every cent I spent.Although it can happen to anyone, like other forms of family violence,and it is most times happens by men against women.

OP you should know thta It often happens when one thing becomes bad for an act that didn't happen because of it, especially if a crime is committed with its name while it isn't the actual reason behind the crime. When Bitcoin was first getting popular, media and influential people called it a criminal currency because it promotes anonymity and privacy and isn't traceable, but that doesn't mean Bitcoin is actually a currency that is created and used by criminals, it is just that it has properties that might give then an advantage but people connected the dots and decided to make it look bad by connecting it with criminals just because of that. Purpose of creation and misuse are totally different things and we cannot blame btc for it

This story highlights the importance of financial literacy and emotional control in investing. Investing in cryptocurrencies can lead to conflicts, but the main issue often lies in improper financial management and emotions.However, it is important to remember that blaming cryptocurrency alone for all problems and failures is incorrect. The main issue often lies in ignorance, improper risk management, and emotional reactions.

Incidents like this happen very often in any case, because Bitcoin is an object and when they have problems involving Bitcoin, people who don't know Bitcoin well will judge Bitcon negatively or it happens because of Bitcoin.
And this is the same as fiat or anything, and the most common is household destruction because of the economy or money. Actually, because of his stupidity, he didn't want to earn money by working so that the economy would be fine. Likewise, when we invest elsewhere, and when there is a problem and it is related to what was invested, then people will judge because of that investment. So a good and wise person will do research to find out who is really to blame.

I just heard this kind of story, that's why when we introduce Bitcoin to other people who want to know about it, we need to check their situation first because we will calculate their behavior whether they are capable of handling such pressure while investing in bitcoins or not. We need to share with them the necessary knowledge to avoid any conflict in the future which will lead to violence such as this one and free ourselves from any blame as well. that's why when I explained it to my friends, I only chose those who were capable of understanding my logic and had some enough patience when it came to investment, I passed on those who were in a rush to get profits, I'll just simply tell them that it's too risky and they need to avoid it.

That's also the other way of teaching other people about cryptocurrency. I would do the same as you except the the capable part. I wouldn't be blamed if there's something will happen like that because I will explain it to the person what will or may happen when you're investing in bitcoin for example. This is what I will say to him/her, now I taught you about crypto and If ever you want to invest then I have nothing to do with it and it's your own decisions. I am saying this as to tell you that I didn't forced you to invest and even explained it to you about risk when investing.

So far, no one blamed me and some are even happy that I taught them about crypto and it's up to them to increase their knowledge more.

I agree with what you said in this case because indeed by looking at what happened it seems that we understand that this will be a lesson that occurs so as not to be too aggressive and risk everything for bitcoin even though bitcoin is a very good thing in terms of investment but it does not mean that the decisions we make are never wrong because if in the end the decisions we make are wrong then it could be that investing in bitcoin which initially would be very profitable ended up the opposite.

Looking at the context of the narrative of the article given by the OP, it seems that we must be aware that this happened due to a lack of spousal communication which made the husband make his own decision to give up completely on bitcoin which ended in failure. From this we can take a lesson that saying buying bitcoin as much as we can and not pushing too much is a decision that can be considered correct.

It's okay to take aggressive action if you can but that doesn't mean you have to bet everything on bitcoin because it will seem like a silly thing when you can't afford it.

Well, even if we introduce bitcoin or crypto currency things in bitcoin, it is not our responsibility to mind in their own business, and of course we can't control other people's minds or behaviours, so it is not necessary to know the person or their well-being even before we introduce bitcoin. What happens next is the own doings of the imvestor; anything he does beyond what is normal is his own responsibility.

This story of a husband who committed a crime just because he lost his investment in bitcoin or crypto is too much. What I mean is that the husband has a serious problem when it comes to handling his own emotions, so it's his fault, not the investment, and initially he was the one who invested in bitcoin or crypto. Anything that happens to him is his own doing. Every investor should know what they are capable of doing. If they can't handle their emotions and behaviour, then a stressful thing like an investment is not suitable for them.

I think that you're right, because what actually brings misunderstandings in marriage life is money and insincerity between the couples, and that happens when their is no longer full attention between each other, or their is shortage of money in family, mostly when their is shortage of flows of money coming to the family as it usually comes, the female gender will be thinking otherwise, so it's clear that bitcoin can not caused a divorce of couples, even gambling is not causing a divorce the way we may think. The problem of family starts from lacks of careering and attention, and majorly money.

In my opinion, you couldn't blame bitcoin for this. Pretty sure the husband's already got anger issues from the get-go, only heightened after knowing about losing the prospect of earning a huge amount of money. Thailand's not really particularly known to be that hostile, nor to be a crypto-friendly country personally so I'm actually surprised to see news like these break out. I guess scumbags just aren't determined by race or ethnicity at this point. Hopefully the guy gets jailed and barred. There's no amount of money that would justify hitting a woman, not when they've been very good and honest and helpful to you. That's someone's daughter and would eventually be someone's mother, you've practically thrown away your positive masculinity perk the moment you lift just as much as a finger against a girl.

To the young lady, I hope she finds someone who's smart enough to handle her, small misunderstandings don't warrant any form of violence, and good for her for being a crypto savvy person to begin with. All the more reasons for her to be able to stay away from poor bastards who assert dominance against those they are inferior against with threats of violence. Not cool man.

You are right in this case we cannot blame someone for holding the Bitcoin they own, of course this problem stems from the personalities of both partners who both have the same nature of only justifying themselves and not wanting to listen to their partner's opinion and if someone is holding it Bitcoin there will be conflict in their household of course no one will want to own or even collect large amounts of Bitcoin and it is very clear in this case we cannot blame people who hold Bitcoin, but I think those who hold Bitcoin and experience problems in the household This is very clear to them because of the problems the two partners have in understanding how Bitcoin works.

Lack of knowledge and being an irresponsible investor is I think the reasons why it sometimes ends like that. If we do really understand the basic of investing Bitcoin asset we already have ideas on possibilities, chances, opportunities and of course the do's and don'ts on it. Irresponsible investor has similarity with irresponsible gambling because of the risks but still we try to take that risk without even thinking of the possibilities. It doesn't need to be like that where it all ends so badly. Maybe they invested all their hard earned money all at once at a wrong timing. This is the most common consequence if we try to jump into something without doing our own due diligence.

As much the media wants to paint this as the bad effects of bitcoin to the family values and structure which is the vibe that I'm getting out of this and the implied message here, we can still never be able to change the fact that bitcoin is just a tool and that it's the skill of the craftsman that defines what's going to happen and in this case, it's just a plain old greed in the family no less, it's normal in a really bad family, relatives fighting over money, land title and properties is something that's common on those toxic families, it's sad that money is the most caustic reason why families are being split in different sides, I could understand if someone in the family is a really bad person but when the reason for why they're divided during gatherings and other events involving the whole clan, it's such a sad thing, just makes the old adage "money is the root of all evil" even more true.

That's a very pitiful moment. To be honest, it's a really difficult situation because definitely it's a good idea to suggest family members to put family's budget into Bitcoin to gain financial profit but on another hand, we have to keep in mind that there are people, in our families, that expect overnight success and will go nuts if investment goes into a loss, even if that's a temporary state. By the way, this case doesn't mean we have to be afraid to talk about bitcoin, crypto or other kind of investment with families and convince them to invest but I think everyone should know their family members and their finances well before they try to take responsibility if they want to avoid such a dramatic turn of situation.

My country has never had a family problem with Bitcoin, but if my country's government and central bank recognize Bitcoin, there may be serious conflict in relationships between family members. .
Dowry is the main cause of family conflict in my country. Complaints of family quarrels with family members and abuse of women due to dowry are heard.

It's a terrible story.

Recently, I've been thinking about how trading is similar to gambling... Yes, on the exchanges there is an opportunity to lose your entire deposit very quickly, as well as the opportunity to earn a lot. I think the boundary that distinguishes reasonable trading on the stock exchange from gambling is the kind of leverage a trader trades with. You need to be careful not to use Leverage at all. The desire to speed up my trading in such a way is detrimental and I always trade without leverage and only with personal money.

We may not get the full story in details but maybe his decision was too hectic before it could lead to such violence. Bitcoin is not difficult to comprehend just the basics is all that matters and it only takes a few discussion and research. We invest into Bitcoin not all in due to the more invested the higher the profits, invest according to proportions or budget in a way it won't collide with our needs or family needs.

Lol this is not about bitcoin but about the attitude and the mental problem of the involved person because no one in their right mind and condition that can act like this just because of their own stupidity.
and also even if this is not about bitcoin but other investments yet this person will do the same because of his nature.
sadly that the wife needs to suffer from this animal minded human.

If he has been hurt in any way by investing in Bitcoin then he should have controlled his anger because if he loses money in hiring Bitcoin B and inflicts such mental torture or physical torture on his family it is not fair at all. Before investing in Bitcoin we must have enough patience because sometimes even big investors lose patience so investing patiently would definitely yield good things and just because he didn't get success in Bitcoin investment doesn't mean he has to lay hands on his wife. There will be a commotion in his family due to such a big incident. Of course, I will say to him that it was never right for him to do such a conscientious thing because two different things, in the case of Bitcoin investment, he has put the family together.