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Title: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Macoach on September 21, 2023, 06:23:46 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: mk4 on September 21, 2023, 06:31:00 PM
If a certain user posts a thread that was very obviously made solely to try to farm merits, then that user should and will receive criticism from everyone — REGARDLESS OF RANK. It's really not the rank — it's the fact that a lot of users here can smell BS from a mile a way.

It's always been the "here's how to create a good post" and "here's how to earn merit" people; a lot of people here are kind enough to ask very basic Bitcoin/crypto-related questions.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: _act_ on September 21, 2023, 06:38:55 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
Newbies also supposed to know that they are newbies. If they are not corrected, this forum may lack the quality posts it supposed to have. Newbies should accept how this forum is and learn in the process. Without the politeness that you called harshness, some newbies may not become better. As long as the quality of posts are there, this forum is good how it is. No matter how harsh some experienced members may be, members are not the same and some newbies are growing.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
People can not be the same. Newbies that will rank up will rank up and remember the past when they are corrected. You should know that newbies will become established members too if they accept corrections. When they become established members, they will understand better. Rank up and you will understand.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: EL MOHA on September 21, 2023, 06:39:52 PM
This is a public forum filled with people with different perspectives and from different places, so one thing I found helpful is that what you feel like is offensive or insulting might just be a way that person communicates from there side. So just like i have read other members say, one needs to grow a very thick skin here but if you continue to get upset by the way some members communicate then it would be best to actually ignore them, that is if you also are not repeating a mistake all round that got everyone pissed like creating multiple threads without any proper information or any thing substantial and help in them


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: un_rank on September 21, 2023, 07:07:25 PM
Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
You really have to develop a thick skin to be on the internet. You cannot expect cordial communication from strangers on the internet, so it is better to try not to be affected by them.
Many of the users here in my observation keep communication civil except for a few trolls. Blunt communication is not harsh or abusive.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
There are so much repetitive low value posts, which contributes to some of the replies that people get on their threads.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: LTU_btc on September 21, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
I agree and disagree with you. Sometimes it's annoying to see same questions repeated all over again and again. But I understand that's not worth to expect that all newbies will use search before asking.
But I agree with thoughts above that these posts often is made to hunt merits. Or that questions is asked from alt account of someone who is in signature campaign. Such kind of topics is great place for signature spammers to reach their post quota easier with some generic answer.
And advice for newbies and everyone in general. If you sensitively react to what was said about you, you have to grow thicker skin.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on September 21, 2023, 07:18:36 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
If you expect everybody to treat you with a soft hand, then it means you are not yet ready for a public forum, more or less a forum like bitcointalk that is globally connected. Because just as a wise man once said that "What Doesn't Break You, Make You", when people criticize your post as a newbie, it's advisable to analyze why a member said what they said about your post, and not take it personal, but rather work on yourself, get conversant with the forum & it's rules, and try to always be on the safer side, why you do more reading than posting, since you are just a newbie and you have a whole lot to learn.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on September 21, 2023, 07:24:19 PM
It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
Yes respect to real newbies maybe yes. But like others said. There were new users or beginners account whom seems to be faking as newbie and yet trying to farm merits. Well its hard to tell actually nowadays but they knew somehow. I dont act rude or harsh when it comes to newbie or fake newbies. But if the topics is really an old one or been used or asked many times. This is where the part you lecture or at leadt say something about the forum rules.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 21, 2023, 07:30:13 PM
The forum's established members always appreciate newcomers who have been really seeking to learn from here. There is no reason to criticise newcomers unless they create merit-seeking threads. Because newcomers always need to focus on learning, not earning or merits. Yes, experienced members don't appreciate farmers and spammers. So it's very important to respect forum rules and set your goal to become an established member. Just ignoring criticism is the best way.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Vicson1 on September 21, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


 For anyone who wants to learn, you have to  accept criticism because that's how you learn and become better. I am also a newbie but many like me really want to post and not read or learn.
We all need merit to grow but some informations that have been posted long before now are still enquired by newbies and that makes some senior colleagues feel that we newbies are lazy to read. I advise we ignore the tune, take the corrections, read, learn, gather more information on the new things learnt from other internet materials. I must confess that this platform is very educative.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Frankolala on September 21, 2023, 07:53:21 PM
This is a large community with people from different places, different background with different attitude, so you don't expect everyone to accept whatever you post here that is to fish merit not to criticize you. I don't really see the forum from your own side, like you said. Instead ,I see the forum as a place where correction and motivation is.

Whatever critics that you get here is to help you work on yourself to become better, if you are here to learn, because anybody that corrects you or criticize you loves you and that is why they are telling you, so that you can take it as a challenge to improve yourself. Don't allow whatever forum members say to affect your emotionally, you should try to have a thick skin, for you to learn and grow in the forum.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Pokapoka124 on September 21, 2023, 08:07:55 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Everyone is given a fair chance to grow on bitcointalk, we all have one thing in common that binds us here and that is bitcoin. Newbies have a limited understanding of the forum and as much interpret criticism as abuse and believe they are being bullied because of their rank. But truth be told, if high rank members made the same posts as these newbies, they would get the same reaction from the community. So let’s stop the pity party and focus on improving ourselves.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Findingnemo on September 21, 2023, 08:08:00 PM

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


First of all, not every newbie is a newcomer to bitcointalk most of the newbie accounts are created with the purpose of asking silly questions over and over again just to troll everyone around. And people who are experienced enough to understand these trolls pick them up and give the best possible experience for them which they deserve to have.

Secondly, this is an online forum so if you are coming here then obviously you need to get thicker skin that is the only to accept the criticism about them and grow up beyond that.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: bitbollo on September 21, 2023, 08:11:01 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


I honestly have never seen this reaction from senior users (excluding of course in lending section or when faced with scams attempts).
Most senior are reluctant to provide always the same answer to most of questions: have you searched before?

In general, many users have found a lot of information on their own, without having to constantly ask. Or at least... they used the search function at their beginning!

Be able to verify an information by yourself and finding original source is also part of "the right approach" ;)


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CryptSafe on September 21, 2023, 08:28:24 PM
At first, you should know that people are very different and as such tends to react in some ways that you think is not pleasing. This is a public place where people of different perspective meets. If you as a newbie is bullied, you should take see it as one of the random things and experience attached to it. Feel free to relate with others to tap more from their knowledge but sometimes too newbies cam be this funny though. They just do things not contrary to the rules and when they are scolded, they start crying foul pointing at their hands at their seniors of being way too hard and harsh on them.

OP I was thinking you were talking or complaining out of your own personal experience not until I read through and it looks like you are just trying to see members response to clear your doubt. I was expecting you to tell us about your experience of be truly you have had such experience here before.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: akuntester1 on September 21, 2023, 08:28:32 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
I think we as beginners in this forum don't need to worry too much and don't need to be hurt if we receive criticism from other members that we may not be able to accept the method or language of criticism from members of this forum.
Everyone has a different character and not everyone can express input or criticism in a good way that we can accept. We can't demand someone to give criticism in the way we like, right!?

In my opinion, we as beginners should be able to adapt to this forum because in fact the more senior members still care about our development and progress as beginners here by giving us criticism so that we can change our mistakes.
In all my time on this forum I have never encountered a criticism that was too harsh or extreme. All the criticism I encounter on this forum is still reasonable in my opinion.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: lionheart78 on September 21, 2023, 09:06:51 PM
I think genuine newbies will do a search first before posting anything.  Since newbies may not be familiar with how the forum functions, they need to read more.  If a newbie reads more, then he should have noticed all the threads created about the forum rules, making quality posts, and other basic information and with that, they don't have to ask questions that were answered a gazillion times already.  I actually think that these accounts that post and ask the same question again and again are pretending to be a newbie.  Aside from that, it is really tiring to answer the same questions again and again.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Wakate on September 21, 2023, 09:13:08 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

I understand how you feel about that but you need to know that you don't expect everyone here to have almost the same attitude towards you. People comes from different backgrounds with different way we think. If you write a post and you notice that people are talking to you anyhow, it is better you avoid them and going about you life than to see that as a threat. No one is here to inflict pains on others so you just need to avoid such kind of pain that reply your post anyhow. That would be better than finding the post as a threat to your mental health.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: sokani on September 21, 2023, 09:43:34 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
This is a public space and we all come from different parts of the world, from different backgrounds and you don't expect everyone to treat you the same way. If you are not ready to stand the criticism and harsh treatment here, then Bitcointalk is not for you. We've an adage in my local dialect which simply says what cannot kill you makes you stronger. As a newbie, you must learn to take the stones with the lessons, learn to observe, try to post less, learn to read more and you will be fine.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: uchegod-21 on September 21, 2023, 09:46:37 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


All you stated is the truth and every reasonable user of this group should understand and agree with you, but I am sorry that things are not so here. No one cautions anyone to treat anyone with leniency, rather they will advice you to grow a think skin.
It is not even experienced members that are the problems. I have noticed some new generation newbies who managed to pack merits easily to rank up, these are the set that are very harsh on newbies. They are barely 1 year in the forum but they attack and abuse newcomers at any slight chance.
I cannot change anything, just follow the system.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on September 21, 2023, 09:58:07 PM
There's no one entitled to bully anyone in here... Everyone has an equal right to self expression - buh, y'all don't even see it that way...y'all be complaining that some dude abused the living hell outta y'all - REMEMBER, this is a Media site, not a conference hall in real life... anyone can disagree constructively, sentimentally and otherwise to what you gotta say...
I dunno if peeps have been taunting them downlines buh, atleast I've not been a witness of that anywhere in here...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Issa56 on September 21, 2023, 10:19:07 PM
I agree and disagree with you. Sometimes it's annoying to see same questions repeated all over again and again. But I understand that's not worth to expect that all newbies will use search before asking.
But I agree with thoughts above that these posts often is made to hunt merits. Or that questions is asked from alt account of someone who is in signature campaign.
There are some things which some newbies do which I think it’s not really necessary, and things like that will make high rank members get angry and talk to them anyhow, I notice that recently when a newbie creates account, they are always creating threads and seeking for guidance and rules about the forum, but I think all those threads are unnecessary, how will you want forum members to send you rules and regulations of the forum when they are already pinned here, any serious member which is really ready to learn won’t create threads like that, because all the necessary information’s needed are already in different sections and they are pinned, seeing newbies asking for the same information annoys me.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: ultrloa on September 21, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Aside from learning new information here you should also learn on how to deal with different attitude of people since you cannot always please other people to have patience to explain anything. You also need to understand that we have different mood swing especially we are dealing investment and maybe due to some certain losses other became harsh since their day is not good so understand them and for sure you will be fine. Just do efforts to learn from multiple people since it can strengthen you and make you flexible to any people around.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Tuturtinular on September 21, 2023, 10:36:07 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


You don't need to be afraid to interact with anyone here, but you also need to know that everyone has their own character and way of conveying things. You shouldn't be too sensitive or maybe you have a very soft heart? so you get hurt easily? There is an ignore button under each member's profile, if you don't want to see a particular member then press that button and you won't see them again, it's simple. But try not to be too sensitive


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Churchillvv on September 21, 2023, 10:48:53 PM
There are some people who are just stubborn and wouldn't listen to corrections thereby making senior colleagues feel very upset not just with them but for almost all newcomers.
Thou sometimes this senior mates are not objective to an extent, they just believe on their own perspective of viewing things, and conclude that most of this post are just to earn merit mean while some of the newcomers make this post with ignorance that such topics has been treated before may be in a much better way or less. But in their subjective reality they think it's helpful to share such information. E.g (Churchillvv) I once did share what I felt was very helpful to newbies and made a suggestion but without knowing that topic have been treated several times with different formations. What I lacked was the use of the Search button and I believe that is what most of us (newcomers) lack too, if we use it very well then there will be no reposting of topics or less reposting.
Thou I will also appreciate the rate which some members of the forum are slow to anger reacting to some post, because I have seen some posters who have been repeatedly corrected but didn't cumulate this advices and then causing wrath upon their selves.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Rruchi man on September 21, 2023, 10:57:13 PM
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Become more stronger emotionally, even if you get criticized.

Members of the forum will say things as they want and most times are not concerned about how the person in subject may feel. It is not their duty to care about how you handle feedbacks that you get because like I have said before, to some people the things and language that you consider offensive are not offensive to them.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: youdacapt on September 21, 2023, 11:14:30 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


When it comes to public forums; there are no seniors or juniors in the sense of it; why? because thats just a forum status. It is also important to note that not following guidelines is enough to draw criticisms. How? Every newbie is expected to use beginner & help on how to get started in the forum or join your language local board to get started (this is to ensure that there are not many repetitions in posts made).

There are different kinds of individuals in the forum including scammers; it is wrong prejudice to assume that all newcomers are here to learn. i agree with you in regards to abusive language. As individuals, we need to be respectful in approach and communications while using the forum (FunFact: i am not sure i have seen an abusive thread before, has there been any at all)?

Finally; i am of the believe that no one, owes anyone kindness; so do you, do good, learn, unlearn and relearn without expecting equal reciprocation.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Nwada001 on September 21, 2023, 11:58:09 PM
The forum is a place that supports everyone's freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not excluded from that; we all have the right to speak out our minds, and others are also entitled to different opinions. You, as a member, be it a higher rank or a newbie, don't always expect everyone to give a positive feedback on whatever you say; most people will always find fault and issue where you might less expect it. That's their point of view; it's either you agree with them and make corrections or you disagree and defend yourself that one is left for you.
 
As for the kind of words that are used to address some certain issue, most people don't treat people whom they think are just here for their selfish interests and are looking for means to show the forum and its members that they can outsmart them. They don't treat such people as friendly. If any newbie makes any post that makes sense, you will see other higher-ranking members appreciating the post and supporting the user's idea, but if they say anything that appears to be false, you will receive the opposite.
 
And sometimes there is some advice that comes from higher-ranking members to newbies that might appear to look like harsh words or insults, but deep down they are really not insults, and the user might have just misunderstood the whole thing. I can't deny the fact that most members might appear not to be friendly, but not all higher-ranking members are. The way we view and perceive responses sometimes matters a lot. Someone who makes a statement is only responsible for what he or she said and not what the reader understands. The writer might mean a different thing, while the reader can find a different meaning to it.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: tech30338 on September 22, 2023, 12:40:10 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

I am sure you have experienced harsh things in the real world, I think they are not harsh, I have experienced it first hand, but that is just because you were hurt by the reality of things, maybe you grew in a different culture that is why you are taking things personally, people here will correct you if you are wrong and there is nothing wrong with that, be mad if you were not corrected even you already knew it was wrong in the first place, don't take thing here personally, this forum don't tolerate rude people or saying bad things to others.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: knowngunman on September 22, 2023, 05:47:08 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


I have personally never come across this before though, it might be happening but it is not something to worry about as long as the newbie is here to learn. If a newbie is not scolded for his wrong habit here, he might assume it to be the ethics of the forum. Important thing for newbies to note is that, in every community, there are certain principles put in place in order to make it lively for everyone but unfortunately majority of newbies overlooked or care less to know about these rules and consequently ending up breaking them. Let assume the forum is a company and you happen to be the CEO, will you tolerate such attitude in your company? I guess NO!

Forum operates with principles and you have nothing to worry about once you adhere to these principles. Correction are meant to make you perfect in the future. You can either accept to be corrected or you continue to live in erroneous and misguidance.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 22, 2023, 06:01:05 AM
I think you, OP, are exaggerating what you think is the problem. You were not on the forum in those days when there was a bounty boom and when alternative accounts, in order to increase their activity, wrote nonsense everywhere. Because of this, it was precisely those today's users, whom you call elderly today, who began to reproach newcomers for their stupid and useless posts. In addition, the forum is not a school, and we are not teachers, so everyone can freely express their feelings if someone observes inappropriate behavior. No one here is responsible for anyone; understand the rule that there are different people on the network with different views, and tell them who should do what is simply useless. The best way, if someone has the soul of a snowflake, is to put on thick skin and realize that if you don't like someone, just hit the ignore button.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Z390 on September 22, 2023, 07:26:37 AM
Sometimes, harshness is what they really need to get the forum clean from nonsense, I don't mean to sound wicked but this forum has rules, it's on the newbie how they take every harsh advice on the forum, it's for their own good and for the sake of the forum too, I remember making a topic where the replies I got are somehow harsh, but I don't let it bother me, I took the advice and work on my mistakes, maybe if they don't use harshness I wouldn't have take it seriously.

Newbies need to read the rules of the forum first, you can't copy a whole content from another website and post it on this forum without receiving some harsh words from members, the forum rules is strongly against plagiarism, so for someone who is a beginner and choose to ignore the rules, how will one respond to them? By pampering them and saying they do the right thing?

Some newbies are not even improving after all the advice people post on here, they post nonsense on the forum and they fail to improve themselves, shit posting isn't going to get such people anywhere, and such people deserves the harshness, because they fail to improve.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Jawhead999 on September 22, 2023, 07:59:40 AM
You're expect people should be kind when you're open this kind thread? it's like creating a tutorial how to life, first; eat three times in a day, second; drink at least 8 cups of water, take a shower two times in a day, go to toilet when you're want to pee or poo, sleep at least 8 hours in a day and many more.

I mean, without telling to other people how to life, they already know it by nature and have been taught in school.

Everyone is different, and every situation is special. So, what might work for one person might not work the same for another, and it might not work all the time either. Here are some tips to help you set aside your emotions and stay focus on your trading stratgy.

Make a plan and follow rules you set without breaking them.
Only invest in things you understand and believe in.
Always do your own research and think carefully.
Think about how much you could gain compared to what you could lose.
Try meditation and mindfulness to stay calm.
Only invest money you can afford to lose.
Keep a journal of your trades and feelings, so you can learn from them.
Take breaks when needed.
Find other good things to do like reading, being outside, or spending time with loved ones.
Notice if your actions are causing stress and talk to someone you trust if you're having problems.

Hope this helps!


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 22, 2023, 08:13:38 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Name drop those experienced members who are very harsh to newbies out there. I want to know because I might be one of them even though I'm not even close to being an experienced.  ;) :D

Anyway, I don't notice this kind of thing where high ranked members or experienced members are very harsh to newbies. Well, it's a different story if those newbies are just posting for merits. They can feel if that newbie is just posting for merits or not. TBH, I'm kind to newbies who aren't fishing for merits, and if I see newbie who can post as constructive as other high ranked members out there, I will not think twice to give them merits because they deserve it.

TBH, I've seen some newbie-ranked members in the past, and within a few months, ranked up to be a Senior Member, then a Hero Member, then became a Legendary. They ranked up way faster than me, and I commend them. I'm kind, but if I'm one of the members who talks harsh to them then I will adjust for them.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Hatchy on September 22, 2023, 08:32:08 AM
What Doesn't Break You, Make You
That's very true, my friend. We can all learn from our own mistakes. When other members criticize you, it's not just an attempt to scold you they're trying to teach you. How you choose to perceive it makes all the difference. Advancing from a lower rank isn't easy, but it's not overly difficult either. One must be prepared to encounter various challenges on the path to a higher rank. The forum is populated by individuals with diverse perspectives, so expecting uniform responses isn't realistic. Ignore those who are abusive, and embrace the opportunity to learn from those who are trying to help you improve. Remember, learning from your mistakes is key.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CryptSafe on September 22, 2023, 08:51:44 AM
What Doesn't Break You, Make You
That's very true, my friend. We can all learn from our own mistakes. When other members criticize you, it's not just an attempt to scold you they're trying to teach you. How you choose to perceive it makes all the difference. Advancing from a lower rank isn't easy, but it's not overly difficult either. One must be prepared to encounter various challenges on the path to a higher rank. The forum is populated by individuals with diverse perspectives, so expecting uniform responses isn't realistic. Ignore those who are abusive, and embrace the opportunity to learn from those who are trying to help you improve. Remember, learning from your mistakes is key.


Of a truth in the course of growing through ranks from a smaller to a higher rank one must encounter challenges on this platform and that is not what one should shy away from as these challenges are what builds one up in the course of staying here. Individuals are different likewise their ways of reasoning. Every one member with his her own perspective on how they go about their activities here which have been of very good Importance to them. If one encounters challenges or criticism here, I expect that one should look into it and take the advantageous aspect of it take build up and add to their knowledge.
You should note that the ladder to greater heights is not a smooth one as there are lots of steps you would need to take to getting to the pinnacle of success. Know that every criticism you get keeps you a step ahead if you look into it and take corrections.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Chilwell on September 22, 2023, 03:30:16 PM
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This forum is an educative platform which means that everything have to be taking serious, I believe if you are doing the right thing no one will ever challenge you, for instance what happen here is like you are teaching your younger once lesson about what they have though them in school over and over again and they don't get it, definitely you will be annoy with them, that is what Forum is all about, and again Forum is a place of fact so been simple here newbies will think it is play ground. The way you said senior member behave over Newbies is just a message to them that there is no play here, and also it is a challenge for newbies to learn more about anything theta want to talk about. None of newbie here will like the forum user to attack him/her more than one time, that is why I said it's a challenge for newbies to take correction of their mistake.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CageMabok on September 22, 2023, 03:42:29 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
If you are someone who also wants to learn from experienced members on this forum, I think you don't need to see harsh words other than words that are useful for yourself. Because not all experienced members here speak harshly towards all newcomers, even though you may have read words that you think are harsh but according to other people they are just ordinary words. So there's no need to think about these harsh words if you are focused on gaining more knowledge through experienced members here.

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It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
I also don't see any bad treatment of newcomers by experienced members on this forum, and you can see this in every topic that newcomers create with quite reasonable questions. What you have to see there is that there are always several experienced members who are still willing to provide answers to questions asked by newcomers quite accurately and are even accompanied by links that can be accessed for careful study.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: robelneo on September 22, 2023, 05:51:45 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Usually, it comes from newbies breaking rules and not doing their part in the discussion some of the newbies I encountered are all about spam and trying to scam, if a newcomer did his assignment check out the rules and do their part in contributing in a healthy discussion I don't think they will harsh words I seldom give harsh words to a newcomer who is trying his best to have a good output in a discussion.

If you're a newbie you have to earn your way here you have to show that you did your assignment and you deserve to be part of the community, the forum welcomes new people who will come and be part of a community with the intention and mindset of participating in a healthy discussion.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on September 22, 2023, 08:02:19 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


forum is a big interaction place, and it is full of different people from different places with different characters. So we should not expect different people to treat us the same way. The reason why I see some high-ranking members react badly to newbies is that when they done something wrong, maybe repeatedly that should just show that they are not happy with your actions.and in fact, not every member in the forum always reacts badly to posts or questions from newbies, despite how bad their posts may be. The truth is that if nobody is going against newbies when they break rules or do something wrong, the cases of spamming will be worse than this, and they will hardly learn fast.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: alastantiger on September 22, 2023, 09:45:14 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
We understand and most of us have been there. You can control how you react to their "harsh feedback". What I have come to notice is that the feedback they provide is correct but the manner in which they express it is harsh but does it matter. They're not your mother or sister. Another thing I noticed is that with time the newbie's post quality improves and the frequency of harsh comments also dies down. Time and the newbie's willingness to improve is all that matters here.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Mr.suevie on September 22, 2023, 09:53:42 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

The harshness of old members according you is actually not because they feel you or any newbie involved are not quality posters because everyone actually pasted through this stage and them being harsh is actually to guide and direct you on a way forward so that you would know what you are doing because some newbie actually feel reluctant when actually they started but as times goes on and correction and harshness takes place the better and faster that person involved actually learn.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 23, 2023, 11:27:21 PM
Newbie is only a position on the forum; it doesn't mean that the newbie is a baby. On the internet, people can freely say how they feel or speak about what their opinion is. It could be harsh but informative, and you can still learn from it. Some experienced users don't just get harsh without still making some corrections. If you are someone who cannot bear harsh words or criticism, you might not really last long on the forum, but if you want to enjoy your stay here, you will learn to develop tough skin. Don't give a fuck to any fucking harsh word, but if truly it was a correction, make sure you learn from it and never make the mistake again.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Mpamaegbu on September 24, 2023, 05:35:10 PM
It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially.
I can excuse the first part in your comment – low quality, especially when I perceive that it's not intentional on the part of the newbie. I take it as may be it's a case of their best not being good enough. The second part – lack of willingness to learn, pisses me off (and I guess, it's so for others too). That one is a grave iniquity by my books. So, if any newbie is getting bashed for the second part; they deserve it. This forum shouldn't be seen as a place of nonchalance, redundancy and complacency. If it ever got to that point, here won't be a treasure and fountain of knowledge it's now. Newbies who are serious with seeking knowledge here don't get unnecessary criticism and bashing. I'm yet to see any of such.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: SmartCharpa on September 24, 2023, 07:28:50 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.



We are all kind to one another in this forum, but it just depends on how new members come across because most new members don't learn from their mistakes and will continue to repeat the same errors. We should all remember that whenever we move to a new location, we will encounter many challenges from many different people. We should keep in mind that whatever we come across, we are going to face it.

I believe we are more polite than each other, but we all behave differently depending on how we perceive a newbie's appearance. Regardless, if a newbie makes a mistake on this forum, they must be corrected because high rankers are doing this to help them get better and protect their accounts from moderators, we can't be complaining over people that trying to correct us from our mistakes.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Abdulzuruku01 on September 24, 2023, 08:58:41 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

The majority of newcomers here will likely feel discouraged even though you make a valid point, because higher level members use harsh and abusive language against them because they are reluctant to learn. Since we newcomers are essentially newborns in this place, we should constantly view those critical remarks as both a challenge and motivation to carry on with our studies and eventually let everything fade into memory.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: bhadz on September 24, 2023, 09:10:02 PM
I don't see experienced or long time members that are harsh to the newbies. In fact, most of the old members here are happy to reply and help you with your questions. Maybe you just feel or think that the reply was harsh but that's not the intention of the reply to you.
It's just that you're sensitive or maybe like that. If you truly think that member has been so harsh to you, then just be it and accept everyone's differences. But no offense to that and appreciate the help that's given to you. We're all in a community that's helping each other to learn more and something new. Anyway, we're in a forum where you really can't control others in terms of how they express themselves just like you so be kind starting from you and to others and always understand one another.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: nakamura12 on September 24, 2023, 09:49:03 PM
If newbies really do want to learn about cryptocurrency and other related information then they won't be criticized like that or experienced forum members won't post harsh replies unless the aim of a newbie is to farm merit then yes that will surely happen. There are some newbies who are introduced to this forum where the person who taught them about the forum is to join bounties which many forum member doesn't like.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Distinctin on September 24, 2023, 09:49:37 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

I don't think that old and experienced members are harsh in dealing with the newbies. If they got criticized in their posts, probably newbies deserve that because they won't be learning in the first place if these experienced members will be very easy and ride their newbies sentiments. You should know that learning in the forum is never as easy as you think, and these old members are just molding these newbies so they will be brave and be more consistent in developing their own knowledge and attitude in the forum. Otherwise, they won't stand the highly unpredictable events that will suddenly hit the crypto market.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Renampun on September 24, 2023, 09:53:58 PM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


everyone deserves a chance, everyone deserves a chance but not everyone deserves to be on this forum (I mean those who only intend to pollute this forum), I really welcome new members, but sometimes what I see is that new members seem trivial about this forum, especially with the posts they make, many even make plagiarized posts just to attract attention. Seniority is not enforced here, if you are friendly, follow every rule obediently then the other members will support you.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: JunaidAzizi on September 25, 2023, 04:47:24 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.


The rude behavior of experienced or senior members of this forum depends on the activities of the newbies. I noticed many newbies repeat the same mistake again and again in this forum. They just come to create a topic and tell something it ok it's good that they are interacting with the forum but why they don't look to the other thread or other sections? For example, a newbie asking a question the same as the other newbies asked the same question in another section or thread. So according to me why they are not taking a look at the other threads before creating the thread? Also, they are going to merits without making quality posts. You are a newbie you came here a while ago so how do you want merits on your first post, It is right for some newbies but their post quality is mind-blowing.
In response to this, our experienced members use some harsh behavior just for the betterment of the newbie. They know that their harsh application will affect him and maybe he start working as the forum needs. Also, this is an online system you can't expect anyone to be nice and everyone has their own style of talking or telling.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Good_Doctor on September 25, 2023, 06:22:06 AM
While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.
It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
I can actually relate to this post and commend the OP for speaking up for someone like me who'd not have been able to say this. Thanks!
But one thing I am glad about is that although I've faced toughness here from many high rank users but I actually paid attention to their 'abuse' or scoldings and I ensured that in my next reply or post I avoided those faults that characterized my previous post that made them talk me down. So, I'd say to newbies facing such to actually change their mindset and take each of those stones thrown at them for wrong replies or post as a building block for attaining higher rank in due time rather than going into their shells to learn nothing or fighting back by replying abusively.
Summarily, high ranked users guilty of this should pipe down by reducing the abusive words and the victims of these should learn from it and build knowledge (like I've been doing so far).
Simply put anyone who's found using of harsh comments is guilty of trolling and that's a breach in the forum rule, so the user will face the required consequences. As given in:
Bitcointalk rules
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Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Viscore on September 25, 2023, 07:48:17 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
If you expect everybody to treat you with a soft hand, then it means you are not yet ready for a public forum, more or less a forum like bitcointalk that is globally connected. Because just as a wise man once said that "What Doesn't Break You, Make You", when people criticize your post as a newbie, it's advisable to analyze why a member said what they said about your post, and not take it personal, but rather work on yourself, get conversant with the forum & it's rules, and try to always be on the safer side, why you do more reading than posting, since you are just a newbie and you have a whole lot to learn.
You are right in there. Constructive criticism does not mean that people should treat you with a soft hand,   either it’s a positive or negative comment for you, as long as it’s helpful for your growth and development in the forum, that’s already a constructive judgement. Otherwise, if you expect people to be always kind to you and please you as you want, you will never grow and learn from the forum. Sometimes, people need to be tough on you so you can learn your lesson the most effective way.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Y3shot on September 25, 2023, 08:09:29 AM
One thing I will advice you is never to take anything in the forum personal,  if you let everything to affect your emotions it will really disturb you and put fear in you not to participate well in the forum. The truth is that you will be corrected in the forum when doing things in the wrong way. And I believe if things are done in the wrong way nobody will correct you in the way you may not like. I will tell you again just try your best to overlook whatever that will make you feel bad, don't expect everyone to be kind to you.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CryptSafe on September 25, 2023, 11:29:43 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
If you expect everybody to treat you with a soft hand, then it means you are not yet ready for a public forum, more or less a forum like bitcointalk that is globally connected. Because just as a wise man once said that "What Doesn't Break You, Make You", when people criticize your post as a newbie, it's advisable to analyze why a member said what they said about your post, and not take it personal, but rather work on yourself, get conversant with the forum & it's rules, and try to always be on the safer side, why you do more reading than posting, since you are just a newbie and you have a whole lot to learn.
You are right in there. Constructive criticism does not mean that people should treat you with a soft hand,   either it’s a positive or negative comment for you, as long as it’s helpful for your growth and development in the forum, that’s already a constructive judgement. Otherwise, if you expect people to be always kind to you and please you as you want, you will never grow and learn from the forum. Sometimes, people need to be tough on you so you can learn your lesson the most effective way.

Sometimes being hard on some people is the best way they can learn something new. On a normal in a public platform such as this, one should know that there are lots of people with different ideology, orientation and perspective as well so one should not always expect response to always be in tandem with their services or activities here. Definitely there must be some critics here who feels what you have done is not good enough to be be a good one but rather you putting more efforts while some would applaud and appreciate your efforts. What is expected of one as a poster is to look into the criticism and take possible observations and work on it to build your capacity. There you are doing more good to yourself by acquiring more knowledge as a result of the criticism.

Lastly, there are people who do not learn soft but rather in the hard way. They only take corrections when people are hard on them. So therefore if such people exist here I believe they would find here very interesting and educative.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: GbitG on October 02, 2023, 11:15:49 AM

It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.
Your position is correct: new users show a lack of quality in most people's posts, and some of them are just beginning to learn jurisprudence, so we should not react rudely or harshly to it. Obviously, not everyone is a scholar in the crypto space. Everyone has a lack of knowledge in the beginning, but gradually learns knowledge from amusement to legend. So, for the sake of others and for myself, I do not like that he lowers the passion and morale of the newbies with bad manners and a bad temper.

This second point is for the newbies; gentleness also means that your heart should do whatever it wants—rules, volition, etc. Each person should review the rules before taking any steps in his or her case. Moreover, the purpose of big members is not to criticize you, but to convince you that there will be no problems for you later. And yes, if you call forum rules strict, then friends, don't be confused; this forum is not for you, but you should go to a place to learn knowledge where there are rules and regulations of your choice. And if it is to be followed here, the forum rules should be understood as an academic circle based on principles rather than strictness.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: Obari on October 03, 2023, 08:22:13 PM
It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

The more reason I don't ever act harsh or feel superior  above anyone is the fact that no one made it to the top suddenly and everyone grew from the rank of a newbie to any rank they must have attained and since i also know how much effort it takes to grow on the forum, I always do my best to make corrections with love new members and as well encourage them never to give up.

I once spoke about something very similar  to this in my local board can't find a link now, and I also pleaded with higher ranked members to try their best to encourage new members as writing isn't an easy job and most times, a kind word of encouragement can boost the morales and ignite more passion in a struggling user.
I support your motion op.


Title: Re: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 04, 2023, 05:34:43 AM
I have concerns about the interactions between experienced members and newcomers in this forum. Occasionally, some experienced members can be quite harsh and may forget that newcomers are here to learn. While constructive corrections are beneficial, it's crucial to avoid using harsh or abusive language.

You're on the internet so you should be expecting every form of treatment, people here don't know you so they mightn't know how sensitive you're to words and treated everybody like the way the expect to be treated. While people use harsh words, don't forget they're trying to correct you so they're not actually doing you any harm but good. People response to harsh words more than calm words as they won't want to experience same feeling again so they try to better whatever they were doing wrong. It's also frustrating for the senior members because they get to correct newbies constantly for the same mistakes they keep making so you expect them to have some outburst sometimes by do understand that everything been done here when it comes to corrections is done for your own good so you don't get banned from the forum.

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It's true that some posts from newcomers may be of low quality or show a lack of willingness to learn initially. However, I believe that giving them a chance and treating them with kindness is a reasonable approach.

Some accounts are just trolls and they won't change, some accounts can only change in harsh conditions while others can change in the condition that you explained. We can't all be showing same emotions. Things need to be balance and for that to happen we need both the calm condition and the harsh conditions for the newbies, they'll learn form both condition. If you go easy on some newbies they mightn't take corrections and continue in their ways and become a nuisance to the forum. Just imagine if plagiarism wasn't punishable by permanent ban, many newbies won't have been taking it seriously and would have been plagiarizing contents but because they know the harsh consequences, most of them avoid breaking that law.