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Have Any Chance To Withdraw My Bitcointalk Account Red/Negative Trust..?

I apologize to everyone.
I will not make this mistake again and Will never use a chat bot again.
I am so sorry!
I apologize to everyone!  

So,
Have Any Chance To Withdraw My Red/Negative Trust..?

Your last thread should have already given you the answer to your question.

Since the creation of your last thread, the number of negative trusts increased instead of what you expected (which was to decrease the number or possible remove it). I'm sure that if you continue to spam the reputation board by repeating the same question that has already been answered then more neg-tags will follow.

tl;dr at the current stage, you're in, you can't get those that tagged you to remove them.

You have several alternative accounts that are also subject to coloring, at least one. I also mark him with a negative review for cheating in the bounty.
You can continue to curse me.


The fact that you deleted the post does not mean anything; there are archives from which it is difficult to erase something.
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5798/57983046.html



Besides, you are not the real owner, so learn to read and admit your mistakes, and not mess up the PM in a private message.

The only people that can remove your trust are the people that tagged you. You need to appeal to them. It appears you tried appealing to 1 who also posted in this thread and basically told you you're a cheater and to grow up. I would take the advice and learn from your past, that's the only way you can grow.

The account who sent the negative trust is the only one who can change it. It was rather recent (August 2023), I dont think you are going to get anything fruitful right now. Obviously, defrauding a campaign by enrolling alt accounts is a grave mistake because you are stealing from the campaign stakes that would be meant for someone else.

Dont take the easy way out of creating a new account but instead be active on the forum and avoid any campaigns for now. After maybe 6months, appeal for a review of the tag.

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Tough luck though, I doubt they would remove it. But you deserve it for what you did.
Also close your old thread. Dont keep multiple threads open in this section for the same agenda.

OP I wish it is possible that the whole community could remove your tag but its not the reality. The only people that can do that are the people that gave you the tag and that was done as a result of an act you have displayed here which is very questionable and stands to be a potential threat to members who know nothing about it here. Your apologies here is okay but you will possibly have to appeal to those who gave you the tag if they could reconsider and remove the tag from you but you will have to grow up mate.

For your case. Not a chance.


Bounty cheater... Chatbot text spammer... Seriously, how is that an unintended mistake? You clearly know what you were doing. There's no going back.

Short answer for your case is definitely NO!
The problem is you have got plenty of warnings and neutral trust before, So you already knew that a red negative trust is surely coming for you but you didn’t care and continue to behave and breaking the rules as nothing happened. So I would say that all the negative trust you got are deserved and in order to change that it would take much time to prove you have changed and understand following BTT rules is the better option for you.
If you really want to upgrade and start a new page, try to be a good member in this forum by helping others and posting good content, after some time if those members who gave you the negative trust saw the change and felt you are really doing you best to change they will surely change their mind and give you another trust.
I wish you good luck fixing you previous mistakes nothing is impossible.

I think you need to prove your sincerity if you want to make things better. I saw one member who had a negative tag but was accepted into the signature campaign because even though he had a negative tag, he was still actively discussing for a long time on this forum even though no one paid him. If you can do that, maybe you have a second chance. But I'm not sure you can do it.

I'm also a little surprised why @nutildah still gives you a neutral tag, because he is an expert in looking for farm accounts. There are lots of great people here, so if you intend to cheat then you have to be smarter than them, if you can't then it's better to be an ordinary member, no need to be greedy by creating lots of accounts because that will end badly.

Think positively mate, and prove that you can improve this situation. It will definitely be good for you in the future  :D

You can't remove that. It depends on how willing you are to correct your mistakes. You should learn from the mistakes you've made and avoid repeating them. You need to improve and demonstrate it through your actions here on the forum. While it may still not be removed, it can help you gain the trust of other users. Remember that the final decision lies with the user who gave you a negative trust rating. Only they can remove it. It's a challenging process, but showing your sincere regret can go a long way.

Read what someone asked about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384081.0

You have more now LOL
I give you this advice. You really need to spend your time on this forum. Whatever is your reason, you did wrong things. Learn from the mistakes. Start over because this current account has nothing left if you have an intention to earn from signature campaigns which is the prime reason for most of the members these days.

But if you truly love bitcoin then don't mind these tags, continue improving yourself, learn and share bitcoin. Overtime everything will disappear.

Not only they will not disappear over time, but it is guaranteed to have more tags in the future, unless of course they learn how to game the system like 99% of DT members, engage in trades, give loans, trade with high ranking trusted members, hunt fake scammers and cheaters.  But I assure you, if one doesn't game the system no matter how much you contribute, no matter if you grew wings, there will be no riddance from tags.

"Love Bitcoin".😉

It is possible. If you think that the tags left for this user are incorrect, you can distrust those ones who left these tags in your personal Trust list. If entire community will think the same, the one it will distrust will fell out of DT, and his tags will have no importance anymore. So community has enough power. Are you really sure that these tags are left in inappropriate way that you wish to delete them?

I'm sure that these tags are correct and that's why one of these tags is left by me. And as I see, the community has consensus about that these tags are quite appropriate, so community doesn't have any intentions on deleting them at the moment.

Well, I, as one of those who left the red tag I have to say no, because what the OP would want is for us to delete his red tags now. In the future, if he would continue using the forum in a responsible way, respecting the rules, maybe in a couple of years I could change it to neutral but seeing how he has acted, which has led to receive those tags, no way he is going to stay in the forum using it indefinitely without being able to earn money on it.

"Love Bitcoin" sounds like the name of a merit-hungry account farmer who is about to write 40 posts in the WO thread.

Good thing for you, you really do love Bitcoin  :D

I mean as far as I remember, you have the longest string of consecutive 1's of any generated BTC address... That can only be the result of establishing an intimate relationship with bitcoin. Does that record still hold? Its been a few years since someone last brought it up. Time flies when you're busy lovin' bitcoin.

Where's the "I will swear to God that I will never do it again?" or the "Even God gives second chance" type of post coming from a user who got either banned because of plagiarism or negative trust like this one.
Please say religious quotes as well. I'm waiting, many might be waiting, and who knows, mods might have a soft heart for those users who are using God just to be given second chance.

I also believe that users here are intelligent enough to know if my reply is sarcastic or not. :)
Trust me. There's no chance for your red trust to be removed, and I believe that instances like this will happen in the future again. I expect more DT members to give a neutral trust first to those who are using AI, and if they still continue to use it, they'll be given a negative trust.

The question that comes to my mind is: This is the first time that we've seen a DT member giving out a red trust to somebody because of using AI. Are we saying that these plagiarism detecting websites are accurate enough to tell which are AI made post, and which are not? I mean I didn't ever try to put my posts out there, and try to tell if my posts are AI made or not.

There are tags from multiple members therefore the chances of you having every single one of them either removed or replaced (with neutral tags) is very low. Let us not forget you also have neutral tags that are quite critical of your conduct.

The problem many members will have with the statement you made above is that it does not seem sincere even in the slightest. Had you put some element of truth or remorse within it, you may have been better placed to deceive but your lack of sincerity is apparent.

I have just given you negative trust and excluded you from my trust and it will stay there until/unless compelling reasons are presented. As for other members that left you feedback, do you honestly believe you will succeed in having them remove/revise what they have written for you?

Didn't you care when you got your first neutral feedback for using a text bot? I guess you didn't even notice the negative feedback. You only notice when you saw you were removed from the bounty campaign you were working on, right? I don't know. But there was over a month gap between the first neutral feedback and the negative one. You had enough time stop doing that shit and ask for the forgiveness. Unfortunately, it's too late now. I don't see any possibility of getting remove these tags.

Dipshit, you're a subway car just asking to be tagged by the DT graffiti gang, and I just had to add to the work already done on your trust page.  You're welcome.  That's what happens when untrustworthy members make a spectacle out of themselves and draw attention from concerned forum members who might otherwise not have gotten involved.

I can see your unnecessary post caught the attention of those DT members who were not aware of you. Now you have two more new reds! Man grow up and don't try to take shortcuts. The trust system is not moderated and the only member who puts those trust can remove them. And i can tell you that DT members from this forum are not so kind towards dishonest people.

What would have happened if he simply changed his ways, stopped using the AI bot and instead contributed positively to the forum? One thing seems possible is that the OP would probably have escaped some (if not all) of the negative and/or neutral tags. In the interim from the first neutral to the first negative tag, if he had been serious about his remorse he would have handled this thread in a different manner.

You are right, it is too late for the OP now. It is not as though he has done anything special with the tokyohd account, he just does not want to create a new account for farming purposes.

You mean like the reds would disappear just like that? Like magic?  ;D

Is this a new policy or I'm just seeing this now? I thought you stopped tagging people for anything content related, like garbage posting etc, if using AI is considered as plagiarism, shouldn't mods deal with such cases?

You don't actually have to announce to people that you are mean, we already know how ruthless you are.😘😈

If someone does not have the capability to write something on their own, how they will do that? Sometimes people have capability but they do it just because of their laziness. The main problem is everyone wants to make easy money (That includes me as well). But the point is, whatever method you choose, that should be ethical and legitimate.

As I said, probably he did not notice the neutral tags because maybe he has multiple accounts. Multiple account holders barely have time to check their account status. All they do is log in, post, log out, and then log in to another account.

Many people use various tricks to earn easy money but it seems that at some point they get caught by the community members. When they get caught, they come up with different emotional stories, and they start apologizing. If one does not have the capability to write something by himself, then he should try to make himself capable instead of cheating. In fact, such users do not want to try, instead of doing something good, they always look for a shortcut, which results in a bad outcome for them.

No, that's not what I meant. The reds are not going to matter for the OP because he will not care about any financial gain. But looking at the history it does not look like the OP have any motivation to contribute on the forum. A member account. They account will become in-active very soon.

You will be surprised if you hear the harsh reality of Bangladeshi influencers! The tech channel owners search for so-called good bounty campaigns and teach their viewers how to get maximum distribution from the campaign. They teach their viewers how to create unlimited accounts on a website to get the airdrop. All these are free tutorials. LOL

If you talk about paid courses, they teach shortcut methods as well. I am not talking about all tutors. But some of them doing this shit. When they teach Photoshop, they teach presets instead of explaining how it works. LOL

Public post can never help you for withdrawal your negative tag. this is a negative feedback from some DT members. Your negative tag can be removed by whoever gave it to you  No one else can change it. I have seen your account and the report against you is inexcusable.  And I don't think you should remove this negative tag or anyone will. So forget about this

Yes i also reviewed this. op is completely a big fucking cheater. Your investigations are superb and the entire line of valid evidence revolves around it

The OP seems to have received five negative tags after he created this thread and not only that, his last login was one day after he created it therefore it seems safe to conclude he will not be back. He has probably given up on trying to milk the tokyohd account but as usual these people are operating several other accounts therefore their focus will be on them now.

Personally, I won't create such a thread unless I doubt the legitimacy of the tag. Let's say you tagged me for a controversial thing and I feel like this is not accurate, I may create a topic to discuss it and influence you to remove it. But if I already know that I am the mada faka and am guilty of something, creating another thread will bring only negative feedback like this thread creator. This does not apply only to the OP or me, it applies to everyone. Even we have seen a member who was too concerned about the neutral tag he got from a DT member but he ended up getting tons of negatives. So, yeah, OP won't comeback!

DT Members are rude men on this space. I think all DT members are family and  support each other. Theirs target 99% newbie. They not gives learning, only discourage with rude reply. pretend to be investigator's. don't ask help here. useless

Maybe it's better not to start with cheating and deceiving? And then there will be no reason for asking for help to clean the one's reputation. It's not because DT members have anything against newbies, it's because those who cheat and deceive a lot have less chance to grow in ranks.

If there is any mistake in a DT member decisions you can provide arguments, facts, evidence. Mistakes can be corrected. And even if that was a mistake not of a DT member but of the one who got a tag; a tag is not a ban, the one can restore his reputation with time if he wants to communicate on this forum. But not many use that option, because cheater's aims are far from sincere communication.

DT members has a role to do which is to ensure that any untrusted user will be marked as untrusted to avoid dealing with them in the future to stop being harm for the negative acts they done.

DT will just take action if there’s proof to the accusation, it’s not rude but just. Although not all DT has same standards on giving trust feedback but most of them is very fair on reviewing case before they sent feedback. In case of cheating, its very hard to remove that kind of feedback since we are all anonymous here so trust is very hard to earn once it’s broken.

I guess you did not see conflicts between DT members. You haven't seen several DT members tagged high rank users like Full Member, Sr, Hero and even legendaries for their unethical doing. Even one of the forum staff (Moderator) has a negative tag from DT member. So, your statement is not valid. They do not hunt for newbie who do mistakes. They hunt for abusers without looking at their rank. As long as the reason is valid to tag someone, I have full support for them. No matter if he is a DT member or a Non-DT member. I am sure you are using an alternative account. Why did you choose to do that? What happened to your main account? Got tagged by a DT member?

That's definitely a possibility, but another reason appears to be he is mad nobody acted on this report (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468988.msg62937283#msg62937283), which he probably also wrote. The report doesn't follow the proper format for that thread, and as is its not a very compelling body of evidence to negative tag accounts.

This person should spend the time it takes to properly connect the accounts in a more convincing manner, then perhaps they wouldn't be ignored.

The name suits you good,😂 you tell funny jokes.  From experience there is no such a thing as "mistake" in DT's cult. It's this redundant sentence "Trust system is not moderated to avoid abuse", my favorite joke. 

I mean if trust is not moderated then who are these DT members? Lol

Would you be singing a different song if your account wasn't painted red by any chance?


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Believe it or not I've seen Lauda, JollyGood and several other DT members, past and present, withdraw red tags before.

I'd like to think that one of the things that makes a good DT member is their ability to recognize when they were wrong in the past and make adjustments to their ratings accordingly. It's the "I'm still right in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary" position that tends to land people in trouble.

A user who at some point is not ready to reconsider any tag, negative or positive, should probably not be selected as a DT. One of the more recent examples is Timelord ^{in HedgeFx case}, who persisted with inappropriate red tags, which resulted in his exclusion from DT.

It is highly unlikely every single DT member is male. As for DT members being rude, that is something that is your opinion. I am sure many are but to state all of them are, is incorrect.

There are plenty of DT members that have their own disagreements between each other and also with non-DT members. The idea or notion DT members support each other by default, is wrong. Even if it happens it is not a wide spread practice.

Well, he would be singing a different song but the problem for him is that he received another tag when was trying to give his account a sense of respectability. Nevertheless, it did not stop him from joining a signature campaign therefore his purpose to use the digaran account for monetary purposes has been achieved.

As for the digaran having the neutral/negative tags removed to recover his reputation, he will not be as successful.

Yeah, about that. Since I locked that topic I never got to know the reason for "this received tag" during the reputation recovery process. But as you put it, mission accomplished.


Having them removed? Why, when I can draw energy out of every red letter in my trust page? One must be crazy to get rid of this kind of incentive source. However when I think about it, you really need to revise/ update the tag, $50 is child pocket money, I'm aiming for $50m, you just need to pay close attention , but I guess you only tag people based on your feelings/ agenda, whether wanting to become DT with a lots of inclusions hence "scam/spam/cheater busting persona" or simply when someone says something you don't like, "opposing the selection of a "close friend" as a merit source" hence retaliating with red tag.

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I can see you are still obsessed about gender discrimination after so many years.😉

Is it possible for op to have operated in those accounts you found out? I do wonder how some people do violate the rules that are sets on a campaign without following them, and whenever they are caught or tagged they begged for forgiveness and asking for their account to be free while they have already go against the ethics of forum and also that of the campaign manager.
So removing the tag itself is like not sticking to rules that abides the forum and between users and the campaign and the campaign managers, hence I from my review op have a very slim chance to get the tags remove as the tagging isn't only on AI generated content but also subject to account farming and bounty cheating.

Sorry to say bud, but your chances are almost zero, or zero entirely, like I believe some other forum members have said, trust system on this forum is not in the hands of the admin, the system is completely decentralized, even though the forum itself is centralized.
You will just have to learn to live with those negative tags because, those who gave it are not user's that can easily change their minds on something they have already made up their mind on. So i will just suggest that you accept what you yourself have brought upon yourself and move on.

This forum is not like just any other forum out there, here, if you must make any headways, you must understand the rules, understand what's forbidden and stay away from such, its as simple as that, but as long as you've gone against the rules and earned negative tags for yourself, its hard to get it off, and yours case here is an example which also should teach others with intentions as yours, to desist from doing what is wrong.

How I wish your words alone would remove those negative tags you've gat there. Your apologies on this thread can't help at the moment but is best you reason with those who tagged you to help out. Your actions before being tagged has to be serious and I feel you were warned before now but why didn't you follow the right path to avoid all these red flag?
I think you're just responsible for what's happening to you, only if you cherish your account you won't have being breaking the rules or doing something that will implicate you, wish you luck on your appeal tho.