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Play for fun. If you are not playing for fun, you are doing it wrong. Gambling should be done to entertain yourself only, and always remember that gambling is not a sound financial investment. I have witnessed the horrors of people who blow their kids college funds and life savings on gambling at a Casino. Don't be one of these people. Have a daily or weekly gambling budget and learn which games you like and how to play them so that you can actually have much more fun playing them than just winging any game.

This should be the Umpteenth time that this type of thread has been created here in gambling discussions board.

Anyone who still thinks gambling is a way for him/her to break free and gains financial freedom is only digging a pit for themselves, gambling is meant for fun and if you’re looking for a way to earn passively then go and learn a skill and monetize it rather than risking the little you have for gambling,— If you no longer feel excited when gambling and always have regrets after each section then you should stop for a while and resume when you no longer have that mindset of playing to be rich.

Topic has been discussed at length.

Addicted gamblers are never playing for fun, they are playing for the rush that comes when you take risk and the suspense of winning big or losing it all. Also the reason why "Max Bet" exists in so many casinos. Anyway, it is difficult for them to actually practice a bankroll management or set up a weekly/monthly quota for betting.

They will try to chases losses and make more, the only way to stop the vicious cycle is to shut yourself off from these sites and accept the losses while trying to earn and make it up.

I wonder why this topic is so repeated around here in the gambling subforum.
I mean, I do not mind because someone would need a little bit of a reminder to stay on track about their gambling habits and who they are not supposed to see a money making opportunity on casinos. However, Sometimes it is sincerely tiring to read the same several times in the same week.

OP, it would be great if you also offered more information on the techniques to train ourselves to be "frugal gambles", it would enrich this thread beyond the same affirmations I have seen before.

You are right but I want to let you know that gambling is not a financial investment at all, not to talk about it not to be a sound financial investment. It is also not a good way of thinking of earning income because that will only lead the person to gambling addiction.

That is stupidity.

I earn weekly and my weekly gambling budget is 5% or less.

There have been more than a few threads or discussions here that have similar main points.

In fact gambler mistake in managing the finances used for gambling has occurred anywhere and with any background because gambling provides quite high curiosity and in addition there are several goals to be able to get big things making many people forget about the gaps in life future time.
Suggestions and input are always presented in full here but basically out there there will always be more people who forget about the welfare of life and prioritize the pleasure of gambling until they forget everything.

From what you have said this might be very useful if you set it slowly and consistently but remember that not everyone can have sufficient weekly or monthly income or leave some money that can be used for fun one of which is gambling so it is normal if you still There are some gamblers who use their savings to be able to pursue what they want from gambling.

Everyone knows that basically gambling is for entertainment, but sometimes people use this industry to make money, I know several people who make gambling as their living and they have succeeded this far. There's nothing wrong with their goals as long as they can manage the risks they have and are aware of the dangers of gambling for a living. Whether their goals are wrong or not, it's up to each individual to decide.

The problem nowadays is that most people do not start gambling for fun but as a way to evade stress and the difficulties of life in our time.Sure the struggle is real and most people start gambling in the first place to just escape this stress,sadness and boredom that these people have with their lives not being able to make ends to the end of the month and being in a constant loop of what most people call a rat race.The problem then is normal to aggravate because the level of stress of this people keeps increasing when they are losing more money and nowadays gambling is a serious problem for the society.

It is very difficult to play for fun only as I have tried what you say but soon you may get into the emotions and adrenaline of the game which consequently can put you deep in addiction.Safest thing to do if you have a weak character is to stay away from gambling.

It's not easy and it will take time before we realize that it's safer to play to have fun but the temptation to make money is always there, you will only realize it once you lose a lot of money but if you keep making money or you have positive results you will keep trying to make money.

Experience is still the best teacher you just cannot teach yourself to have fun while you are just starting the temptation is strong and it will pull your mindset to try to make money when I was starting out I wanted to have fun but the lure to make money pull me to change my mindset, I have to revert to my mindset to just have fun before I lose a lot of money.

Are you teaching others or yourself?
Everyone knows how to do it with gambling, there's no need to teach because this kind of thing keeps repeating itself in different threads.

Well gambling is for fun but they are only looking for finances here so it is a foolishness especially spending money that should be used for other things such as education or other needs, people who are too hopeful means they are addicted.
I know what to do with gambling, so it doesn't cause any problems for me.

that's what responsible gamblers do. they have consistently allocated their gambling capital. because gambling is a habit or hobby that is quite expensive to do regularly.
many of the gamblers who have no control over their finances are bound to end up very badly. I also see it happen to my friends. telling them may be too late, and when they realize their loss. that will be the best way to admonish them to play appropriately based on our financial capabilities.

Or simply don’t engage on any gambling activity if you can’t afford to lose money due to your family needs or you have no self control since you knew it to yourself if you can handle gambling or not.

Gambling is not a requirements that needs a dedication to allocate money on regular basis just to have fun. There’s a lot of way of to have fun without gambling which even casino keeps reminding us through their responsible gaming terms. Gambling is not for everyone since it can destroy life with just a misappropriate bankroll management. I admit that I cam't handle hardcore gambling that's why I only play whenever I'm on real vacation with extra money coming from my salary bonus or campaigns.

Gambling is one of the engagements of people that requires absolute prudency from anyone who would want to get involved in it or face the deadly consequences of getting involved in it in the first and that's why it's advisable not to desist from it if one can't control his emotions.
Being frugal in gambling is one thing every gambler must do in other not to end up as gambling addicts which might in return ruin their lives.

I sort of disagree with you because if you playing entirely for fun, then you cannot take it seriously. Have you forgotten that the gambling industry is worth billions of dollars? If you play for fun, you might not know the importance of discipline, seriousness and commitment and this is not how to survive in a multi billion dollar industry. You can catch fun while playing but it should never be the driving force for venturing into gambling.

I have always been an advocate of developing a strategy that integrates, risk management, style of play, winning targets and when to stop playing. If you have developed this system and follow it religiously, the fun will come naturally because it will take away the pain of loosing beyond budget.

By the way, what other fun is greater than having huge and winnings? With the money, you can get all the fun in the world!

That's a horrible story and I thought people only compromise their funds, not others when they are carried away to play more even though it's not making sense anymore to gamble the last money they had. I never thought someone could even spend their children's money just to fill the void of their addictions. well, that's the reason why you should really consider stopping when things are not right anymore when you play because the more you insist on staying, the more it gets worse and you might go to do the same scenario as the others.

That's not a frugal gambler, you're explain about normal gambler where they only need to use amount that they can afford to lose and gamble for fun.

Frugal gambler means you will not spend a lot money in gambling, so even you can afford to lose $500, you only spend $50 because you bet with the lowest amount to gamble. Maybe if you gamble in dice game, you might only bet 1 satoshi lol.

Maybe I’m a definition of a gambler who cannot afford to spend a lot more than $10 in one bet. As a guy who lives in a 3rd world country, I have my own boundaries where I am afraid to gamble even more than the limit.

Years ago I was broke when I even borrowed little money from my friend just to gamble. I’m guilty of it because of my situation and my future back then was uncertain.

But at least right now I can afford to put some little amount that I can afford losing to gamble in any platform, especially my favorite Crash game.

Exactly! And it's becoming tiring. Honestly, no matter how you change the language, it's still the same message you are trying to pass across so nothing new. I think we all know that it would be a stupid decision to blow away money set aside for something else, hence the need to gamble responsibly.
Gamblers ought to know that gambling is a risky venture and as such can yield positive results or not but some choose to be reckless and squander their funds and then blame the next person for their bad luck. Personally, I hate those types :(

Going through majority of the gamblers introduction to gambling could've happened by some coincidence and for fun. With time the understanding about gambling differs. In simple, people don't spend at the beginning. They prefer playing on demo platforms and games that allow to accumulate fake money. People keeps gambling using this fake money/tokens and at some point decides why don't we try.

Further this thought lands them into gambling and starts with small bets and further goes high with time based on the won/loss. When won, they think of making good profit and spend big. When lost, in the event of recovering what had been lost they keep wagering with big money. Proper learning and understanding about gambling is the best that could keep a gambler on the safer side unlike the win/loss.

These people have the wrong information about what gambling is and what gambling is not, it comes from greed and from people who show off their winnings and try to imitate it if you gamble because of these people's showing off their earnings then you are on a bad start because people are trying to win big so they can show off at the expense of losing three times of what they won.
It's not easy to educate oneself you also need to learn to control and be objective, for us to become educated gamblers we need to see the worst in ourselves.

I agree with your post but knowing a gambler’s mindset, it will be more fun if you are also winning your game. That’s the reality in gambling. It will be more entertaining if we are also making some profits out of our losses. However, if one will certainly stick to your post, which I think that’s how gambling should be, yes you may play for fun and entertainment with your favorite games, but it’s still inevitable for most of the gamblers to bet on a bigger amount and expect for a higher rewards most especially if you also know how to play the game well. Thus, you are  satisfying yourself with your games while your wallet is filled with profits as well.

The same old topic mate, I believe that when one don't have control over his gambling activities that is when the person will losing all that he has to gamble because he is been controlled by addiction, either if he is sees gambling as a get rich quick means or not.

People that also see gambling as a job that they can use to survive will also end up spending all that they have on gambling because they will be busy chasing their loss and from there addiction comes in, which is not a healthy practice for gamblers. It is until gamblers have known that gambling is for entertainment wether, you loss or not, you shouldn't let it get into your head but have your gambling budget and gambling time frame for your gambling activities.

Beginners will always get lots of advice and messages from experts on this forum about gambling with a certain budget, because a budget limit can be an alarm for us to stop gambling, if we gamble without a budget limit we will definitely play beyond the limit until we become addicted. and become an addict who spends so much money that the gambler can become very poor.

Gamblers actually have to know the limits of their playing limits, because with these limits it will definitely help us prevent becoming addicts, don't go too far in gambling, gamble as if you are having fun with the game, always use money that you are ready to lose, at least don't chase losses when experience defeat, because the risk of gambling is losing, so we must understand the defeat we experience. Use a budget every day or week to make it look more consistent.  ;)

The emergence of gambling has actually come out of playing for fun in a way. Although slots and casino games were once the kind of games that had an attractive feature, betting has become just as tempting. People sometimes get too caught up in gambling and that is not a good thing. I would say that most gamblers play gambling literally to make money. We can say that there is such a ratio. If those who gamble to make money are 85 percent, the percentage of those who gamble for fun and pleasure will not exceed 10 percent. We can say that the remaining 5 percent play to relieve stress.
It will be good for you to allocate a budget when gambling. You can do this every month with the most you can afford to lose.

Believe it or not, people's desire to gamble varies, the money used in gambling also has various origins, but as you said, those who are frugal and think are the ones who don't get frustrated/stressed easily when their money runs out in gambling.

I am aware of the money used in gambling, most of the money I bet in gambling is just bonus money, I mean the money I get unexpectedly, that's the money I bet without using personal cash.

We often hear about having fun with everyone who gambles, but this can happen to those who are not addicted, for those who are addicted to gambling, it is no longer for fun, solely to achieve victory as best they can, as well as the money at stake, it's not surprising that we see many gambling cases that end tragically and so on.

What we need to remember is that gambling can make people happy and gambling can make people miserable, depending on how we use money and bet.

I think there has been several threads about this topic.

But I believe that gambling as a means for entertainment is a common knowledge for gamblers, and that everyone who engage with it should know that the main reason of gambling is as a source of fun. It is sad to know that there are cases where people came to the point where they spend funds that was set to be use for more important things but end up wasting it in gambling. You should set a fund only for your gambling purposes and remember that your funds for essential things like your kids' college funds shouldn't compromised and affected.

As what we are always saying for a countless time, gamble responsibly and make sure that your gambling activities doesn't negatively affect yourself, your family, and the people around you.

As long as there are successful gamblers who are earning a living out from gambling, the original design for gambling which is to give fun and entertainment will always be underrated. So it’s not actually wrong whether the people will see gambling as a source of living, because a lot can actually prove that it can be a profitable source for wise and professional gamblers. However, since gambling is still luck and chance based, not all gamblers are given the chance to be in profits, that’s why some just resort into enjoying their favorite games even if they are losing from it.

It's the first time I've seen the term frugal gambler  :D
As I've never had addiction problems, I confess I don't know exactly what goes on in the head of a gambling addict

But here in my case, I set aside a certain amount, make my bankroll, work with that in a championship and stick with it until the end. It's been working very well and I have fun betting and watching the matches. I've even had a lot of success and profits by taking my time and studying the games I bet on

I always see one topic or another talking about addiction around here. Do we really have that many here on the forum?

One would call such a person stupid yeah, and irresponsible, but addiction has nothing to do with being stupid. In fact addicts have often high IQ. Some people just have better control over their impulses, while others are just stuck with their dopamine reward system. That can make people act irresponsibly. Combine that with untreated ADHD for example and you have potential future criminal in your hands.

And i am not taking away anyone's responsiblity of acting this way as adults they are responsible no matter the cause or what i think. But if we don't treat the cause, and just blame someone for being stupid, we shall have way more stupid acts like this in the future.

These are some of the important lessons every gambler should learn.  Some people see gambling as an alternative source of income making them invest their money in gambling. Anyone who used his savings or child education fund to gamble is an addict who needs help. Gambling should not have any negative effect on your finances because it is just for fun. Sometimes having a budget is not enough but the main issue is to follow or implement the plan. I have also observed that people usually spend more than their budget when they chase losses. When people take gambling as a source of income they put in more money, time, and other resources.

There are many tragic stories that occur as a result of considering gambling as a medium that can free themselves from financial problems, most of them forget that being too involved in gambling can make them buried in a huge mountain. When you misunderstand the true meaning of gambling, that's when you will often have problems in life. Everyone really likes this activity for various reasons depending on each individual, but you need to remember, gambling is only a place to have fun, not a place to seek wealth.

Have you ever played an online game on PC? Whatever, CSGO, Quake, Starcraft... You start playing for fun and you usually have fun doing it, but there comes a day where you just keep losing. Everybody kills you, you lose ladder points left and right, people get all kinds of luck like run away with 1hp and you're just mad. You can't cope with it. Instead of stopping you keep on playing so that you can end the day with a win, but it doesn't come. If it eventually comes, you're to tired to enjoy it.

That's your "playing for fun" in a nutshell, because it's the same thing in gambling and even in competitive sports.

The gambling should be played for the fun,if the gambler take the gambling as the money making business.The base of the gambling will be the wrong one for such gambler.Some people think the gambling as the financial investment and try to earn regular money from it.The gambling was created for the entertainment purpose,because of some gambling site mistakes,the many of the gambling sites getting bad name.Some people start the gambling site to scam the people,Such sites can be avoided by the background verification by the gambler.

Generally speaking your comment is correct that gambling is not a place to seek wealth but there are some people that become successful on being wealthy on gambling. It’s just only few success compared to failed that’s why gambling generally discourages everyone to commit full time on profit and just focus on the fun part.

Gambling is entertaining because of its promised wealth once you become lucky on your game. The only problem is it’s very hard to have luck on games that design for casino to have an advantage over players.

a wise gambler definitely knows when to start playing, keep playing and stop playing, apart from that he definitely has the right idea about how much capital he will spend and will definitely not go over or under that.  In contrast to gambling addicts, they do not have clear figures about how much capital they have to spend when gambling, often they will make loans when they run out of capital ^{(usually this happens to players in traditional casinos)}, gambling will always be entertainment, don't think of it as the best place for you to make a living.

the usual dilemma is that most gamblers of course are chasing about the winning part of their games. unfortunately, this don't happen to most. gamblers are always reminded of this simple fact, however, we can't deny that everyone is aiming to go home with full of cash. we need to accept the reality that in this world of gambling, only few are lucky to hit it big in this game. you have to be responsible enough not to fall from the trap and still enjoy the fun this industry can give it to you.

A frugal gambler gains less as well. It's like limiting yourself to win big, it defeats the purpose when you are trying to implement winning strategies.

Although you want to be entertained, gamblers also want to make money out of winning streaks. It is the kind of advice that you wouldn't really want to do if you were to seize the day when you have the lucky day. The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward. This also applies to investing.

People often think that they play for fun and spend many hours playing, as it has been said that people should play with money they can afford to lose, so people take money they can afford to lose. they lose and spend many hours playing, but when they do this, these people also run out of time to spend with family and friends and completely forget that there is life in the real world, these people start to fall behind in their jobs because they spend hours without sleeping because they are playing . and since the person is playing with money that he can afford to lose, he thinks that there is no problem, he thinks that by doing so he is playing a responsible game

but the truth is that it is not because a person has a lot of money that they can gamble without it harming them in real life that then a person can spend the whole day gambling that everything is fine, in the last few weeks I have read stories of people who had money and they started to play. The game did not harm them financially, but the problem was that they spent many hours playing that they did not pay attention to their wives, children and other family members. After many months of this behavior, the women decided to separate from them and they continued to spend the whole day playing

until they lost their jobs because they were always late and slept at their jobs, after losing their jobs and continuing to play, there came a time when all the money they had ran out and they started to go hungry and stopped playing, the saddest part of these stories that li, and that when they looked for their wives, they were already dating other men and had gone to court to gain the right to keep the children. in other words, they lost their jobs, wives and children.

I think it is not about playing for fun or playing for profit, it is about gambling responsibly.  If a person knows how to gamble responsibly, he is able to avoid the things you stated.  People who know how to be responsible will never spend the money that is allocated for their kid's college funds and life savings on gambling.  A gambler can be playing for fun and still spend the money allocated for their kid's education if they are not responsible enough to moderate their gambling activity.

"You Can't become rich with betting!"

This is my first betting rule. Personally, time ago, I experienced some "stress" due betting even with trivial amount. No fun? Well ok no betting! There is no choice, it's should be a must betting and have fun or yes you're doing wrong.

Please note that people can earn with betting but...it's a job. Literally is a job with all good and bad things related. And of course it requires a lot of time (and why not also expense) be able to be in profit.

It's hard to teach people how to be frugal, let alone teach themselves that thing. It's like asking a candle to light itself without giving it any light source at all. I know that there are people who are really getting the fun in gambling and are not degenerates, but there are still a lot of people that are looking into gambling as the next big opportunity to improve their income. It's hard to sway their mindset if that's what they continue to believe, although it's never too late for them to change their ways if they really want to. They have to have some kind of support though, because initiating something isn't as easy as it sounds, especially if it contradicts whatever you've been doing for the longest of time.

I was watching Dana white talk about gambling and I share same reasons with him. Dana white is the head of UFC and definitely he is a successful business man so his approach should not be far from right.

Gambling is fun but If I am not to think wrongly of what Dana white was saying, he meant the present gamblers are taking it as too much of a fun game. Personally I love to gamble on clear head (no alcohol), have fun but still be reasonable enough to make the right decision, have my win target and loss target when either of this is reached I call it a day .

However, I agree with what you have said, and it is true that there will be more fun if the gambler always wins and wins and wins, but how is that possible? It is not even a lucky charm can not make the user win all the time. So, as they say, gambling is for fun. We should never or not allow our happiness to lead us into danger, because while we are happy about winning, anytime we are losing we will still have the mindset that we will win (WWW) next time, and it can make a gambler, to become an addicted gambler. Like losing everything, we have to gamble, so we should set a limit for our gambling life and never exceed the limit.

Moreover, sometimes when we are gambling for fun, and we are not winning, we still end up increasing our stake and when it has gotten to such an extent, we should click the logout button if we are gambling online. Even if we are gambling online, we should still do the same.

We must protect ourselves to avoid negative financial impacts due to gambling, so never assume that gambling can be used as part of an investment that produces regular profits, many cases have caused large losses due to the greed factor of gambling and misunderstanding that gambling can make a profit. We have to raise the awareness of every gambler to explain the true meaning of gambling just for fun and we also remind them to minimize gambling losses by having to set a low budget for gambling needs, so tips for frugal gambling are very simple as explained above but some gamblers are out of the circle safe for the purpose of making a profit from gambling, but their greedy gambling will lead to greater losses.

That's how it should be. Gambling is not a source to earn money so relying on the profit you can possibly get when you gamble is not really right. Because you're not even certain if you can double your money when you use it to play.

Therefore, it's just right to gamble with a desire of having fun. So you can enjoy the games and you'll not be pressured to win because your reason for playing is to entertain yourself. If only many gamblers can have this mindset, then we can prevent seeing them becoming addicted due to lack of self-control.

It's hard to say what's right or wrong in this context. Making money from gambling might not work for some, but it doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. I agree that many people end up losing, but whether it's a good idea or not might depend on individual circumstances.
Discussing topics like this can seem somewhat pointless, and I believe it's a matter of personal choice. There shouldn't be any pressure to conform to a particular viewpoint.

Most gamblers can do this and it is not a challenge for them to do it, however those which could benefit from the advice that you are giving do not really care, they are so convinced they can obtain profits with gambling that just a few words here and there are not going to convince them to change their ways, which is a shame as they will have to learn the hard way, and even then there are many people that never change their way of thinking, even when they lose everything.

Absolutely the right idea. Few people understand that casinos and other types of gambling are needed only for fun. And every player is greatly mistaken when he begins to think that this can be earned. Our human brain is very fond of extrapolating, and as soon as a player wins a large sum of money, he begins to think that now it will always be like this, and you can even plan spending for the coming months, because "then I'll be lucky too." And every player is selfish, and this is very detrimental. And if such a player wins, then he thinks "this is the expected outcome for my great skills," and if he loses, then it's a huge blow for him: "I'm nothing, and I have to recoup right now."

I'm going to disagree with this. Maybe it's advisable for gamblers who aren't serious about their journey. But what about people who believe they can make money through gambling? That might sound funny, right? It only sounds funny if you don't believe that once you have skills in gambling, you'll be able to use them. If you don't believe that there are people who make a living from gambling, such as sports bettors, poker players, and probably others, then you'll be close-minded about the positive side, specifically the profit potential.

Remember that casinos make money not because every gambler is losing money, but because the majority are losing, so the profit belongs to the few successful gamblers.

Yes, it is important to be able to control yourself with the right mindset because that way we can control all the feelings that harm ourselves when gambling. All beginners should understand this so they don't get trapped in addiction because once you become an addict it is quite difficult to recover from that addiction. and I once saw an addict find it difficult to recover completely and he always said that he regretted gambling with an unhealthy mindset.

The mindset of gambling while having fun is a much healthier mindset compared to unhealthy mindsets such as gambling to make money and making gambling a permanent source of income and in the end it doesn't produce anything. because gambling should be able to entertain yourself

I am not going to be one of those people who are going to complain about the fact that this topic has been discussed at length here, because each new thread like this advocate for responsible gambling and people's memory are short... so these threads serve as a reminder.

Gambling is a form of entertainment and you should never spend more on any entertainment, than what you can afford. Stick to a budget and if it is not fun anymore.... stop doing it.

I like to gamble, because it is a fun activity and I enjoy it even more... if there are a social angle to it. (Chat option or speaking to people in a brick n mortar casino)  ;D ;D ;D

You can only advice them but you can't force them to do it because it is a personal choice and the fun in gambling comes when you win and no third world gambler went to the gambling hall or site for fun. They are not interested in having fun gambling but they are there to earn money. As you said, people have wasted their school fees, feeding money marriage money and their contribution money yet you are saying gambling is for fun. Hey! Guy that should be an Illusion. That saying can't motivate me. When I have lost big and you want to tell me that it is for fun.

This your thread just like a repetition of other thread we have discussed this matter time without number. And it is only an addicted gambler can set a gambling budget for himself and if the person is not an addict them there is no need to do such. And it is not easy to set gambling budget just to gamble.

experienced gamblers or bettors definitely understand how gambling works and they come to look for fun and try their luck with the amount they can afford to lose, but on the other hand, for gamblers who have not been betting for a long time, they will have bad thoughts about gambling, considering gambling as a money multiplier.

this is the ridiculous thing they do, the mistake of thinking that a place to gamble is a place to have fun but it turns into a place to make money and most of the gamblers I know have thoughts like that. until one day in the area where I live there was a young man telling his friend about needing money to pay for school and another friend giving him bad advice "deposit your money and double it in slot games" indirectly this is like the doctrine or indeed the mindset of gamblers today completely misunderstood how gambling works.

maybe this is one of the big impacts of the current development of online gambling and gambling advertisements from influencers which makes gamblers have the wrong understanding because sometimes influencers when they are broadcasting live playing slots only see big wins and make gamblers think badly. I dont blame influencers but its just that the gambler mindset is wrong.

Some may have realized this and can easily do anything to save or regulate the financial limits used for gambling but most still tend to be more careless where they risk all the money they have for unclear results from gambling.
We know that gambling can make someone change their life when they succeed in getting very big win but in gambling there is always uncertainty or clarity about when we will win so risking all the money we have will only make things more difficult for us in our daily.

A person way of thinking is sometimes quite stupid when they expect something big in matter of uncertainty therefore it is highly recommended to gamble within control and have limits whether financial limits or limits on the number of bets.

Man, I don't know about you but I feel like frugal and gambler shouldn't be a thing, you won't be having fun if you're thinking of the money that you're spending in regards to gambling because you're not thinking about the games you will be playing, you will be thinking of money and how you will be able to get back that money that you spent on gambling. You're better off not gambling at all if you consider yourself a "frugal gambler".

Not seeking wealth in gambling is a very good thing to be able to avoid addiction to gambling because if you have experienced addiction to gambling, this will be very bad for us so that we run out of money gambling and cannot fulfill our income. I am very interested in your gambling strategy, you can control yourself in gambling so that you don't take more money than you have determined. You are right if we have experienced defeat in gambling and we are chasing defeat to be able to win, of course this will make our income run out not left.

The main problem is that those addicted gamblers have already lost all discipline and all structure in their lives. Their gambling addiction has their dopamine going awry into overdrive and that itself is the problem. Those addicts need to take a very long or even permanent break from gambling. Or at least until their brain chemical regulation is back in normal values.

The only reason why they feel the need to bet the maximum is because they have already conditioned themselves to feel like that. That is what happens when a inexperienced person throws him/herself into the world of gambling without a plan or a strategy to cut risks and losses.

Most often, people start to get involved in gambling for the sake of money, in our society, a lot is connected with money, and most of the time a person thinks about how to make money. Playing for fun means allocating a few tens of dollars for gambling and playing sometimes, this will save you from any stress or losses, but most often it doesn’t work like that.

Players try to find a strategy that will bring them money, they test it, lose money, then try again, there is little fun in it. The one who understands that he can’t make money here leaves, the one who earns something tries again. And someone, after losing on gambling, tries to win back, this is how things are in reality.

Play for fun, play with caution and play with what you cannot afford to loss. These are some of the advice that have been echoed here over and over. However, some persons don't see gambling as something that should be fun filled, they see it as a source of income and they make costly mistakes.

A gambler should have a weekly or monthly budget and when he must have exhausted it he should stop playing. He should call it quit when he's on a losing streak and never chase after his losses, doing so will only cause him more losses, thus leaving him sad, angry and depressed.

If success were a given, wouldn't everyone be doing it constantly? The intrigue, the unknown, and the will-I-won't-I of it all are what make it fun

Having fun while gambling, absolutely! However, "just one more try" has a steeper incline than a hill covered in banana peels. It's like you're having a great time and in the zone when all of a sudden, "I'll win next time" starts to creep into your thoughts. Setting a limit is the key here! A huge, gleaming, golden ticket that would control it all. Because our bank accounts shouldn't move brrrr in the opposite direction from the way the virtual slot machines go, right? So let's keep it light and entertaining, and keep in mind that when the fun ends, it's time to log out with the excitement of winning the lottery

Gambling is for fun and not to make money. Gamblers should know this and not try hard to win the gambling. If more gamblers knew about this, perhaps cases of gambling addiction could decrease and not be so worrying. This requires awareness from each gambler, especially those who still gamble too often, to immediately reduce their gambling activities so they don't experience problems later. Only self-awareness can help them avoid gambling addiction and enjoy gambling as entertainment. People need to have a gambling budget so that they don't exceed their limits so that they don't lose a lot of money in gambling.

Despite all of this being right and true, it's just general information about the topic, and as everyone said already, it has been discussed more than a thousand times already, and almost every single user visiting the forum has already seen and read it. So, when you were creating this thread, you should have done some research and should have found some pointers and maybe some tips that a person can use or think of so that they don't take gambling as a way to earn money.

In my opinion, whether someone will gamble for fun or to earn money depends totally on their financial status at the moment because someone who has a limited amount of money will surely think of earning more money with that while someone who has a lot of spare money won't think of earning more and will take gambling as a source of getting some entertainment only.

Hmm, needless say that such topic of discussion as this is already one too many in this board, and like it is right now, it is hard to comment on topics like this without feeling like the comment you share is same thing you've said before..

But anyways, I still understand that this is a public forum with alot of visitors every day, I will never be too much to keep warning gamblers of the dangers of over gambling and as well as the gains of moderate gambling, addiction to gambling is real, and it destroys, far more than any one can imagine, so yeah, we all must be frugal, prudent in all our gambling activities, so as to avoid problems.

These type of write ups always end up falling on deaf ears. We don't need to be dishing out these things anymore to gamblers. The best way that humans learn is through a painful, bitter, experience. Somehow I think that is how we are wired to learn from negative experiences because they came with more meaning and hit us at the very core of our being.

Gambling with your kids college funds is not even the worse story about irresponsible gambling I have heard. We should be disciplined enough to know when to self -exclude ourselves from casinos. No one who has ever done this has had any reason to regret their decision.

You are right. Gambling should only be considered a game. This is not a way to make money. If someone sees gambling as a means of earning money then he will become addicted to it. And the consequences of gambling addiction are dire. I know many gamblers who have lost a lot of money due to gambling addiction. And many have become addicted to various drugs besides being addicted to gambling. And its bad effects are seen in his personal and social life. And this is why I think of gambling as just a game. And I only gamble when I have extra money. Or I stop myself from gambling. It's not like I haven't lost money gambling, but even if I lose money gambling it doesn't affect my personal lifestyle much. And so we should always be aware. We can stay away from the harmful aspects of gambling only if we are aware.

That is the key: to educate yourself.

It might take a longer time for some, a shorter for others, it can be easy for some and it will be difficult for others, but the important is to never give up educating yourself on the right track. Human beings are adaptable to the environment where they are inserted, they seek rationally for actions which will lead to them to stability, welfare and internal peace, so it's perfectly possible for a gambler to maneuver his thoughts and goals on this direction, if he really wants and has persistence to overcome the temptations in the middle of the way and to endure the process.

The important is to maintain and grow hope inside yourself, while avoiding hopeless feelings, which bombard us from times to times.

It’s really easy to say to just gamble with the desire of having fun, but when you start making unexpected profits from gambling, suddenly your purpose is not just to have fun but to earn profits as well. That’s how majority of the gamblers have turned into more greedy and more profit centered because they have started to taste the profits in gambling. But for those who are still newbies in gambling, most probably their main goal for now is just to have fun and find entertainment.

Definitely gambling should be for entertainment and anything outside that is definitely putting yourself at risk of loosing so much money that may cause you some good level of ruin so it advised you gambling for entertainment or fun else quite. No doubts people do gamble to make money but then at this point they will have to take some level of unreasonable risk.

I am aware of people who have professionalize gambling at some point make good fortune from it and are successful from it but then they also have some losses which they have incurred and maybe don't talk about but just that they have their profit above their losses so it's usually looking like they don't lose, but then its important to know that they don't win all the time.

The success of people in gambling shouldn't be reason enough for you to want to venture into it if you don't have the capacity or ability to gamble and still remain sane. You can actually succeed in other things outside gambling but then if you must gamble, gamble responsibly so you can enjoy the fun and entertainment that comes with the game of gambling.

True, IMO gambling should be pursued purely for entertainment and not as a financial investment because it's highly risky, and you can lose a lot of amount of money very quickly. It's better to see it as a way to have fun and to set strict budget limits.

I'm pretty sure you'll need the money you might spend on gambling someday so you have to think twice before gambling.

Play for fun but still aim to win. Because it's not actually fun if you are losing loads of money even if you are betting small amounts. I did that in a casino game and somehow I still found myself losing $20 even though I was just playing for like $0.01 at each bet.
I had more fun in sports betting because I won there. A simple analysis of the game could give you a good winning amount although it doesn't always end up at the results that we want.
There will be a losing moment and I think how we can handle it is what will make us a responsible gambler. We lose, don't chase, we win, we can withdraw, if we know what to decide when that moment comes then I guess we are really having fun in gambling.

We all play to make extra money and it's not only about the fun like many people are saying, you won't be able to gain fun out of your games if you use large amounts of money, gambling makes sense if you are earning income from your job or business, make sure you have that going for yourself first.

If you are earning good money, you will be able to take risks either in gambling or investment,  mind you, using a small amount of money will ease your mind from any possible panic and anger.

Know your worth and stay within your range, this is how gambling will be full of fun and entertainment, A small loss equals less worry, gambling is a game of luck and that's why it deserves only money you can afford to lose.

Honestly, we don't need to have this conversation anymore, because there have been too many like this already, it's left for people to take the advice very solemn.

Unfortunately, a very large percentage of people do not have a sufficient level of financial literacy, so they think that gambling is an easy way to make money. The strangest thing is that many of them do not realize that gambling is an entertainment that requires money even after a few big losses. A million articles about gambling on the Internet they are not interested. In my opinion, such people just do not want to think and analyze, they rely on the will of chance. Well, it's their choice.

This is based, I have a close friend who is a slot player who always plays at Gates of Olympus even though the RTP at that time isn't good, he doesn't care about winning or losing later, all he knows is that he's playing a game he likes. I can't give him any advice, because whatever I say, he will definitely ignore it. Unlike him, I'm a type of gambler who is more mature in terms of seeking profit which is in line with seeking entertainment.

In other words, there is a need for gamblers to balance their betting and risk taking. We have to do more reasonable betting so that we don't go astray.  In all we do including gambling, we should listen to people who are close to us regards our over zealous ambition for winning big. Sometimes advise safe us from loses, I have been a witness to this at a game house where someone gave another bettor the games he lined up to bet and he was advised to drop two of them and behold those two games were games that would have caused him losing the bet

With honesty, when last did you gamble with this thought? Huhnn  ;D I'm just kidding. If you give a survey and ask people around this board to help you feel all the form with good feedback, they will say it's for entertainment, this and that but if we are to exceed and intrude their privacy, you will be shock how addicted they have all become with gambling but even most of them don't know that they are in addition with the way they bet and throw money into casinos, they are all chasing the bag instead of the fun and the money that comes with it.

Daily, weekly and monthly budget helps cure unnecessary spending but without self descipline, it's an effort that will lead to nothing, because when you lose all the budget, you will be tempted to go back but if you obey your own code, standard practice, nothing is going to move you a bit, you will strive through any hard times will never yield to pressure of losses, the pain of losing will not make you make any drastic decisions.


It's a natural phenomenon, you can't even convince people the other way when they want something and when money is involved, you will only waste your time telling them the opposite of what they do. Gambling will remain an alternative to a place where they can tossed a dice and make something for the pocket, thought sometimes I don't play them because of people that manage to win display wealth as evidenced and if that is shown to any one that is eager to make money, what do you have as evidence to show them that gambling is not for money only but fun? It's a going to be a lengthy explanation that will end in nothing.

We all know this. But money is involved; are you aware that we have are living on different circumstances? Some people are here to have fun but many are here to get rich even if it would seem to be a punch to the moon. Every reason is valid. Ofcourse no one wants to be put into misery but that’s just gambling works to some people; either they lose or win big time. Ask anyone who are here with high hopes of making their fortune; they are all aware of how dangerous gambling could be when things are ‘t handled properly. But they still chose to continue. There are just lessons which are meant to be learned the hard way. If you can control yourself while playing then that’s good. It is also okay to share some words but never force them ‘coz they have a different goal to achieve.

The risk of gambling should be well understood before we get into it. With most of the gamblers, the beginning days used to be fun and entertaining. As days pass the focus would be much on making money as they have begun to loss. From the very beginning unlike the win/loss one should have his limits set and need to stick to it. Very few does things in the right way and follow it strictly while the majority used to be changing minds depending on the won/loss.

Thinking twice before gambling could keep you at the right place than just spending and feeling bad for the loss. Everything beyond limits ruin life, and gambling isn't an exception. Only the luckiest succeed whereas the rest suffers.

Frugal gambling is centered on factors like playing for fun, joining comp clubs, budgeting our bank roll, and devising techniques for more wins. A frugal gambler's goal is to never stake huge amounts in gambling. The use of comp clubs as a low roller is possible. Many think comps clubs are for only high rollers. A gambler that plays consistently can be accepted on different comp clubs in casinos. It'll help reduce expenses as a gambler, hotel rooms, food and drinks are offered free to the gambler. According to their activities on the casino. Other things to consider as a frugal gambler is playing for fun like everyone said. It helps the gambler understand that gambling can be a commodity like other things, which make us happy; going for vacation, watching football match etc. These things we pay for it too. And expect no reward. So, if one takes gambling as such, they'll be conscious of gambling too many times in one sitting. Your friend, enjoys the games, that's a good gambler, but, since gambling offer rewards, wagering money into it, we also need to utilize techniques to earn those rewards. Not just playing for fun sake alone. We also, need to observe our bank rolls, lay out specific amount to be spent on a day, gambling. Winning adds to the fun, as we can stake more with the extra funds. Most a times the money scheduled for the day, may not finish, due to winnings. Some expert frugal gamblers, wager the winnings and the scheduled money till the day is gone. Most times they'll go home with profits. A comp player, on the other hand, doesn't need to hurry, as they have a free room in the hotel. They can spend lots of time gambling and enjoying the fun with other comp players or their spouse. The benefits of staying frugal as a gambler is numerous. And it's a good thing to practice it.

It's easy to be frugal if you know you are not capable for higher bets. Of course, you will never spend above your means but if you are a big time gambler, being frugal is out of the picture. Aside from having fun, you also aim to be an ultimate highly profitable gambler and you can't do it if you stick to your low budget bets and stay frugal. Sometimes you have to aim high and bet high so that once you win, you will gain the maximum amount of profits.

We can give advises as much as we could into other people but only a few would really be minding on hearing out and applying those ideas into their real life scenarios or situation but majority of people would really be just simply ignoring those words and would really be living accordingly with their own decisions in life on which its not really that something wrong because we do really that different motives and targets in life and on the things that we are dealing with .Its our money to be used not theirs - which its a primary line on where those people does have in mind. Even myself on which on the time that i do gamble then i dont really let other people do influence on what the things i do want to but there are really moments on which you might be that considering on hearing out and this might really that good for you.

There are really just those people who are close minded and doesnt really accept others advises and suggestions and this is why they do really end up on a disaster. We do know that gambling is really just
that for fun but on the time that you are already crossing those limit lines then for sure it would really be ending up on a disaster if things becomes severe. This is why
you should really be that careful on this one.

Yes, responsible gamblers are already aware about that. Instead of spending big and losing high, they will only stick on spending their spare money so that if ever they lose it, it will never affect their finances that much. Gambling will never guarantee us successful profits all the time, that's the reason why we should only bet on the amount we can easily manage to lose. It's means to be enjoyed, and that would only be possible if we can limit our losses in gambling so we can enjoy those games to the fullest.

There are many threads like this on this board. I wish you would just drop your comment there.

However, obviously, gambling is mainly for fun for those who understand how it goes and how it’s affecting people's lives emotionally and financially at the end of the day. When you do it too much, anybody who sees gambling as a financial investment or means to get money is definitely creating a way for themselves that will make them regret it because they will definitely have problems at the end of the day.

Again, not a way to get money and meet up financial needs is very wrong, and such a person is creating way for himself to get addicted to gambling when he is too lazy to work and get money, then chooses gambling to get money. You can see that he will be doing it repeatedly, which he will easily get addicted to because there is no way he will get money than gambling, which he was the causative agent of such a problem. So for anyone who sees gambling as a financial investment or way to get their problems solved, they should quickly change before it becomes late for them.


Setting up a budget for gambling is very important. I usually gamble with less than 10% of my income every week, and it’s okay for me once I deposit the money into my wallet for the week, even if it’s finished and I don’t win. I’m not bothering myself because I don’t mind even if I lose the money because that's what it’s for. Even if the money deposited in the account finishes, I don’t put anything there again. I usually have control over my emotions when it comes to things like this.

In my opinion, gambling is actually not a problem if as many people have said, it is for the purpose of having fun. However there are still some people who consider gambling to be a source of income for them.
In fact, not all gamblers are minimally literate about the many articles and cases that show the negative impacts caused by gambling activities.
I think they actually know because the news and many cases of the negative impact of gambling activities have always existed even before they were born, but most of them ignore it because they think it's better to try the opportunity to gamble which they think is a shortcut to get money quickly without perform various kinds of difficult tasks like someone who "works" in general.
What the OP said is true, that in essence we must be able to educate ourselves and control our desires so as not to gamble excessively, and we must know the limits of our abilities so that we do not exceed our abilities and financial limits when gambling and causing big losses for ourselves.

But asking these people to stop gambling is basically asking them to stop breathing for the most part. A lot of addicted gamblers I know have this thing ingrained in their personality and lifestyle that sometimes, it becomes their entire identity. A lot of them are given ultimatums like threats of divorce or the wife taking the kids for good before they even realize that there's something wrong with what they are doing. It's just like that.

Financial literacy is just one scope in a large array of solutions that they may employ, the best of which is to literally go monk mode and embark on a meditative quest away from technology and the internet. It's quite pricey but it would definitely open your eyes. Couldn't say I've done it myself but a derivative of it which is called "touching grass" has been found to be just as effective.

First of all, thank you for what you said in this thread. I think, there is nothing wrong with what you say, also based on what you have seen from people who have lost a lot of money from gambling. however, let me say according to my experience and understanding. I really understand what you are saying, even before you created this thread we already knew what we were supposed to do. including, the best for us.
Gambling is instant entertainment in the current era that is no longer foreign to people in cities and even the world. Gambling offers entertainment from every game that the casino platform offers, even though there are risks involved in it. and at this point, a gambler must be fully aware of all the risks of this type of entertainment. not only to be aware of, but to understand too. In fact, it involves understanding and responsibility.

To achieve fun things, in the concept of gambling, one needs a broad understanding. The idea of ​​having fun is an ideal concept, so that someone who likes this type of entertainment doesn't get caught up in terrible things like what you said. It's just that, the problem is that every person/gambler has a different point of view. also, how they treat gambling for themselves. and not everyone has a broad understanding, especially as most communities say you have to have discipline. such things, require a mindset that is aligned with the idea of ​​just “having fun.” in practice, the idea of ​​having fun is not as simple as we say. Not infrequently, even someone who has high discipline likes to get carried away, even with emotions of anger when defeat befalls us.

For me, gambling is simple. not just fun, because these ideas sometimes don't align when we have a gambling session. I mean, when we lose it means it's no longer fun. If you think or assume that gambling is complicated, dangerous and scary, you should just leave it and look for other pleasures, but for me it's simple. there are only two possibilities when I have a gambling session, winning or losing. It's just that, there are conditions that I apply in my gambling concept. The money I bet is not money that is supposed to be basic or family needs. which means, the money we prepare to have fun regardless of winning or losing. with the scenario when we lose, we will not lose our basic needs money. and this concept, quite safe for me, does not even cause problems. also, it doesn't harm the closest parties.

It's okay to have a mindset of gambling for fun but what if you are losing? It's not funny anymore.

When you do gambling, always take it seriously while having fun. It's more fun to do gambling if we are winning rather than losing. Don't always take the reason that it's ok to lose because you afford to lose that amount.

Of course, don't consider gambling as a source of financial investment. That's a horrible thing to do.

Gambling is all about fun but people have misunderstood gambling in all forms, so I believe that gambling is what we all know that people hope depends on, what I really understand in gambling is that we have to in one or two ways make sure that we don't expect anything from gambling because expecting something in gambling will make you to be discouraged, so therefore gamble to catch fun don't gamble in order to make money but gamble to catch only fun. When you have money in mind you will continue to lose money

If only individuals who view gambling as a means of financial gain could comprehend that gambling is intended to be a form of entertainment rather than being looked to for financial benefits necessary for survival and wealth.

I feel weak about how people view gambling in today's society because of the horrible stories I hear about gamblers. It is unfortunate that the majority of gamblers have developed gambling addictions and have strayed from the game's original "for fun" intent by seeing it as a way to become wealthy.

This means we already know that gambling is a game and entertainment, so we don't need to gamble continuously in the hope of winning. The impact of playing gambling continuously is a gambling addiction that we may not be able to face, but we also won't know if we are already addicted to gambling. And I agree with only using extra money to gamble so that we won't gamble too often and only gamble in moderation. And always avoiding losing a lot can make us aware of the possibility of becoming addicted to gambling and we will be able to prevent it from happening to us. We must limit our gambling activities to avoid experiencing problems that will arise later.

We have successful gamblers in the system; how do you believe they got their profits? Obviously, it wasn't by random predictions; instead, they educated themselves on the system's main cornerstone and ultized their concepts and initiatives into fundamental purposes. I'm not familiar with the system because gambling is not something we should be proud of; instead, stick to exploratory thoughts that will result in massive profit margins. Gambling constitutes an event we should do in our spare time, not something we should do in order to earn an excessive amount of money.

We will never know how the gambling system works because only the casino knows. We can only be gamblers who don't chase win because in gambling, we can only use it as entertainment. Gambling is done only in free time and not continuously, which will cause problems for us. And as I said before, we must be able to prevent gambling addiction because it will worsen our life situation and it will be difficult for us to cure it, especially if no one can or wants to help us. And for this reason, we must always limit the use of money for gambling so as not to experience these problems.

I still think the majority of the gamblers understand very well what gambling is for, it is just that the minority of the gamblers that refuse to accept this generate and bring too much attention to themselves, so when the regular population sees how out of control are those gamblers then they associate that image with all the gamblers and think that every single gambler is like that, but this is not really true, however such an image is almost impossible to erase as it is simply too strong and it is what causes many people to be against gambling, even if for the majority of us gambling is nothing more but a harmless hobby.

You are talking as if it easy to act such.

best to tell those to newly interested in gambling than completely gambler. and most not to be in addicted gambler.

By always being careful in doing anything related to gambling, we will not experience bad things like the ones you mentioned above.
It could be that a gambler experiences something like that because he is not in control when gambling, and as a result he does not get pleasure, he will even regret without realizing that he has lost.
If you just want to entertain yourself, you should look for activities that don't harm you, for example exercising with friends, but if you are still going to gamble with the aim of having fun then you have to pay attention to your self-control. placing limited bets or only small amounts. In order to avoid risks that will occur.

We live and we learn... new fish or oldtimer we always learn new tricks. It's not easy to act in some ways, but if life forces us we will learn to adapt and we will learn to find new ways that will work.

I guess it's hard to combine "frugal and gambling" in one sentence, I think that all comes down to the deposits we make. It's hard to control the urge to play, but we need to find a way to control that urge and to deposit just what we can afford to lose in some period. If we lose we should just wait and not deposit for a week or two, maybe a month. We can be "frugal gamblers" only like that because once we make a deposit and start playing it's hard to play slow.

Yes, it must be done without pressure. if gambling to get rich is very wrong. here we are just players, even the dealer can be unfair if they want. but if we play for entertainment it will be more interesting. some games such as casino are more challenging. We have to know what the benefits and disadvantages are before going any further.

I think gambling works as an addiction. But one who is addicted to this addiction can never do anything good. If someone is addicted to gambling to get rich then there is a high chance of losing all money. We should control gambling.  Keep gambling and enjoy the fun. Otherwise we can wear big time. I have lost money for gambling few times but now I am not so addicted to gambling.

As players, we should have limits that we cannot violate, especially limits on using money in gambling. Even though we have budgeted a certain amount of money for gambling, that doesn't mean we can use a lot of money for gambling. We must realize that gambling is an interesting entertainment and can forget what we must do. For this reason, we must always be alert when playing gambling, and if we have experienced loss many times, maybe it is time for us to stop gambling before more losses come to us. From there, we can save money so that we can have money to gamble another day, and we also don't force ourselves to gamble after losing several times.

I will tell you that once you fall into addiction, the only thing that makes you happy is when you win. If you can see that some gambler compromises their finances and budgets, it means these gamblers are not just playing for fun but already chasing their losses. I'm not sure what you mean by frugal in gambling because if you mean the real meaning of that, you'd better not gamble any amount but instead, make use of it to invest. As I gamble using my extra money, I have no problem with it even if I lose.

now I am enjoying my poker game, I participate in daily tournaments where the buy in does not exceed 10$. and play it up to a maximum of 2 re-entries, making strict rules like that seem easy, but if you try it you will find it difficult especially since you might have more money in your bank, so you think it's not a big problem.
but actually there you are consistently being trained.

It would be fun at first but until you haven't noticed that you've gotten addicted to gambling and spent countless hours playing. There are a lot of people who used to play fun but it turned into addiction since they spent too much time gambling which also led to chasing their losses. They didn't mind anything as they were only focused on chasing their losses which that is the time they were going to use their savings that were intended for others. It is best if you gamble for fun you also have to control and monitor the time you spend and act if you spend too much time immediately by stop playing for that day.

Gambling is meant to be played for fun which people can use little money and if they win they can get a reward for participating,  but many has turn gambling to be an exercise where they must get constant income from. It is never possible for gambling to be source of making money for people to depend on it,  but some people have pictured it in a different way.

People have the wrong mindset about gambling thinking that they must make money from it , it doesn't work that way. Gambling is designed to be a game of gain and lose and it can't be changed to be a game which people will only win.

Gambling is not the way to become financially independent. It is neither a side hustle or an alternate source of income. Contrary to what you may have watched on the internet about people who live off of gambling, it is a very dangerous and risky thing to do. We already have a thousand and one thread on this forum that highlights this same topic raised by the OP and we do not need more of this because as the good old books says, let him that have an ear hear.

Well, I'm a player and I always do things like this, first of all, I also love that slot machine game, and when I play it I only end up with a lot of money willing to lose, but I do this not for lack of maturity or anything like that , I do it because I like to enjoy the coin-operations a lot, in this case if I lose I don't care, because I only play the coin-operations, to get fun and get away from everything that causes me stress, I do play this when I am stressed, because in some way the music of the trams makes me uneasy, it makes me feel different, it's like therapy, like going to the soccer stadium and watching my favorite team play, then these types of things are enjoyed, they make me enjoy , and it's as if I were paying for a service because I see it like that, of course there are other games that I play to win, or at least I try to win, like roulette in poker, something like that, but obviously I control myself and I only end up with a a little money to play with, that's my trick, or rather that's my trick.

But to be honest, it is not a very successful education for a player, or for a particular game unless it is poker, but financial education does help a lot so that mistakes will not be made when playing, mistakes that have to do with money, If we start to see a person who has a high financial education, it will be difficult for him to fall into a state of gambling addiction, because he knows that money is one of the things that must be taken care of the most, and that we must see a It is not like a means where the player knows that they can lose what they have in their pockets, in fact the game is made by having fun and to gradually lose, you only have to provide the moments where you must mostly play win and withdraw, because if a person plays and wins some money, in my case I withdraw and keep my positive balance because if I continue playing it is most likely that I could lose it, so that is not the idea either.

Gambling doesn't only have to be played for fun, people can have more than one motivation when it comes to enjoying casino games or placing bets on their favourite sports. I agree with you that entertainment should be our main goal, because it's everything else we can't guarantee from gambling. Someone that only goes into gambling with the desire to make a lot of money will not likely succeed, which doesn't mean that this is not a reasonable motivation. Especially for people who like to bet on the underdog team in sports, or who bet on the 0 in roulette are looking for the high payout games. In my opinion it's fine to want to make a big profit with gambling, it's just that we shouldn't rely on it and expect it to come during one night. As long as we understand that the chances are higher for us to lose money than to make money, we are fine. Gambling is not a guaranteed method to become rich quickly, which doesn't mean that there won't be some lucky gamblers that will achieve it.

The gambler may start to play by seeing some person who made the big win and live the luxurious game because of big money which he win from the gambling.The some gambler get into the gambling to bet on the sportsbet.Such gambler may had good knowledge in the sports like soccer games.So he applied his knowledge in the sports bet to get some additional dollars from the gambling.Like wise the gambler had the opportunity get additional income from his sports knowledge and same money can be used for their children eduction money.

There have been topics and discussions that are unending about people that should gamble for fun only. Whatever is your purpose and reason to gamble, either for fun or to make money it doesn't matter for the others as long as you're doing it rightly.

That's known to the most but there's a way that you can be with the house and be an investor to their bankroll.

Those are the gamblers that are irresponsible with their gambling activities. They think that it won't matter a lot when they become addicted and start using other's fund.

Gamble moderately and responsibly just as what they say.

Sometimes it is not even necessary to see someone else getting a big win, just the potential of that win and the imagination of people are enough to get some people to begin to gamble, something that by itself is not wrong, however if a person begins to gamble for the wrong reasons then they can suddenly find themselves losing way more money than what they can afford, and without a doubt gambling to try to get a big win and change your life that way is the wrong way to think about gambling.

but there are also people who think gambling is a game to earn money, not just as entertainment. so whatever the reason, we can't blame people for their reasons for gambling. whether it's making money, entertainment, expanding your network, etc., whatever it is is up to them because it's their money.

but what is certain is that gambling is not an investment or a quick way to get rich. the most important thing is how you become a responsible gambler and understand how to manage your emotions and finances.

Fun should be a part of the reason why we gamble, and the only way it can be fun while losing your money is to gamble with money you are willing to lose, the smaller the amount is the less it will hurt you.

I believe living a frugal lifestyle mean to be mindful of how we spend money, it means neutralizing unnecessary spending of money on things that you don't really need, so how of gambling discussion this is good advice even if you are not a gambler.

Some people don't even know how to get used to saving money, when the paycheck comes they have loads of things they want to spend the entire money on, and they push aside savings, and it becomes a habit later on, someone who lives a frugal lifestyle will do good in every area that deals with money spending and that includes gambling too.

in this always goes the word "easier said than done"

because while the truth is we must just enjoy gambling but the thing is majority of the gamblers are seeking for money when they gamble and not the other way around.
to have fun? yeah it is but do you really handle this?
that you only play to have fun and enjoy?answer it for yourself first.

Having fun is good choice when one decides to spend some money in casino because expecting something else may not work out and only lead one to disappointment.

Financial management must be able to be done by everyone in everyday life because they will live until they are old and don't have to work part-time in order to earn or collect certain amount of money.
Likewise in gambling every gambler must be able to have a financial limit on what they use to bet because then it is impossible for them to be willing to use more money.
Moreover by having gambling capital limit everyone can easily accept any losses that occur.

This is the right of those who work all day for certain amount of money so it is natural that when they receive their salary they use it for shopping as long as it is in form that is useful for their daily living needs rather than using the entire salary for gambling.

I think you are saying the opposite of what the truth is, it's actually the majority of gamblers that don't understand what gambling is for, and even if some of them do understand, they are not ready to accept it and still consider it something else. They think of gambling as a way to earn profits and make money even after knowing that there are more than 50% chances of losing when you are gambling since it's a totally luck-based thing.

The minority of gamblers totally understand and accept what gambling has to offer and how they should manage their gambling activities, those are the gamblers who don't chase their losses, they don't make more deposits once they lose their initial bankroll, they don't increase their bets to win more money, they might do it just for fun but that's different.

Its clearly understandable that gamblers are anything but frugal spenders. They once addicted will spend more than they can afford and its something that they cannot control. A frugal person on the other than will budget and spend as per need trying to save every penny at every instance so much so that they become obsessed with savings.

The better term is bankroll management and again another concept less understood by gamblers who regularly play EV- games and burn their sats on slot machines and dice rolls.

Gambling just gives us fun if we win - that was the reality. It is pretty simple why we gamble and that is we want to win. This is the primary reason why we are here and making fun is just our secondary reason.

And to say how to become frugal? It was not for gambling, in fact, some of us commit debts/loans just for this. It means that people are spending more money than saving - sometimes our savings are sacrificed as we prioritize our gambling habits. We don't need to be frugal here but just to wise in spending our money and most of all, not to fall into addiction.

I think what OP tries to say in “playing for fun” is to keep yourself chill and enjoy the game without sweating your cash. It’s like having a good time at a casino or betting online but only with money you can afford to lose. The moment we start feeling the stress like when we dip into our emergency funds hoping for a quick high win, that's when the gambling gane changes and it's not a good way.

Imagine this you start off just having a laugh but suddenly you find yourself desperate to win because you’ve put your savings or emergency fund on the line, thats when things go wrong. Responsible gambling means knowing your limits and not turning it into a high-stakes mission. It's about remembering that gambling should be fun and not a stressful race to make ends meet or make it a regulr income. By keeping it light and within your means you can keep the enjoyment alive without risking your financial peace or sanity. In short, you can play for fun.

I think gambling is really okay to consider as a side hustle while having fun as long as you know your limitations in spending your money and don't let your emotion affects you. do not let yourself be in a desperate situation chasing the losses. I already saw a thread somehow related to this and there's a topic on how to become a responsible gambler, that's a must-read. Also if you're familiar with the author Jean Scott, She released her book Titled "How to Become a Frugal Gambler" which States the comprehensive details and how to lose less and play longer.

Only we can tell if what we do is wrong. Those professional gamblers that have been doing it both for fun and money, won't say that they're doing it wrong or you can say it to them but they won't agree with what you're saying about their goal.

Yes, yes. We keep on hearing that we should do it for entertainment but we can't stop people that does it for money and they've been living with gambling as their major or second source of income. Gambling has never been an investment unless you're into their tokens or bankroll investing.

Doing that makes you judged already by people that you're an irresponsible gambler. Even if you give them thousand times of reminder about gambling only what they can afford, they won't obliged and will continue to gamble with money that they can't afford to lose.

Nice but quick correction on your terms,  gambling is not an investment and can't even fit into the class of any category as an investment not to mention it is not being a sound investment as you state in your comment,  since the outcome of gambling games is unknown,  you can bet on them to be your next meal and at that, you have to take a lot of thing into consideration while considering going into gambling,  so having this understanding in place will help you a whole lot and at some point place you at an advantage over other things.

Why should I gamble with an amount I can't afford to let go and even at that I don't gamble all the time and at most I already have a well-planned gambling schedule that helps me to stay at advantage at all times without any possible risk of sliding into gambling addictions at whatever time.

There's no such thing as frugal gambler except you're not a gambler that's when you'll buy to the letters coined together as frugal gambler. People that are frugal are people that are economical with money, stingy, discreet and penny-pinching do you believe people that live such definition of life can make use of gambling - no not sure about that. When you gamble you spend money whether you gamble for fun or for making money you will still have to lose money and a frugal person avoids anything or activity that will make him lose money especially for one that's not guaranteed of a win like gambling.

Easy to say but it would really be just that hard to do the basic thing or that kind of intent. Gambling should really be that just for fun but people would really be that ending up basing on the things or intent or treatment that they do have in gambling.Gambling should really be just for fun and not for money making or source of income because once you do have this kind of intent in mind
then you would really be likely be ending up yourself on getting addicted or mess up your life with gambling because of financial devastation because of wrong belief and ideas have in mind
towards gambling.If you are really that making it as a source of income then it would really be making yourself desperate on which case you would be doing things which arent supposed to be
done or something that you do.

Gamble for fun and never ever make yourself go into certain extent on which you would really be making it as a source because once desperation do kicks in
then it would really be that hard to make such control and this is where things messed up.

That is the right mindset to gambling and also the way to gamble responsibly. Those who follow such discipline way of gambling are those who profit more because they don't just bet because they want to chase what they have lost which is more of emotional betting and that is inimical.

Bet as you can afford to lose and stay away from it if you have exhausted your bankroll but many gamblers don't follow this , they look at what they are losing to chase back that money and increasing their risk which at the end they get trapped in it with regrets.

Because many people think of gambling to make money, not for fun. That's why it's not easy to do. If it was for fun, no one would use their house for betting. It is clear that they are gambling to make money. Meanwhile, for people who started out as fun means losing as an excuse to gamble bigger. Those who cannot control themselves will definitely end up as you said, easy to say, but difficult to control him self.

I don't think gamblers are still capable of being frugal because gambling in the first place means spending your money and expect to lose them all. That alone is a sign of money wasted, unlike investing wherein you get to spend and possibly expect good returns. And the fact that majority of us don't gamble just for fun but to make money as well, then it's hard to stay frugal when all you do is to spend more money not just to chase your previous losses but to make a big win at some point.

However, I have to agree with Kelvinid, that in order to be frugal, don't dare to enter gambling but invest at your own risk. Gambling is to lose, and the more you decide to gamble, you are losing more money in the process without any guarantees if you'd still be able to recover your lost money or hit a big win after a losing streak.

Even though a topic like this has been discussed quite a lot, I still give my view on this matter. It is true that gambling is only for entertainment, it is not made as an investment or as a job for someone. If someone makes gambling their job or investment, it is the same as committing suicide, because what they will get is nothing and they might be trapped in an endless gambling cycle. That's why before gambling, a person must first understand how to manage their finances, because gambling activities are usually directly related to a person's financial condition, and mismanaging this can have bad consequences.

For many people, winning is the ultimate goal, isnt it? Fun frequently seems like a byproduct, a tasty addition to the main meal of success. The confusion of winning and enjoyment is the underlying pseudo-problem, and it is located here. Making fun of others might just be the smokescreen or the secondary goal, as you pointed out, with winning being the main goal.

Its ironic how some people disregard prudence when it comes to being frugal in order to experience that fleeting excitement. Being thrifty is hardly the point, is it? The idea is to avoid letting gambling influence one's spending choices. Too many people can relate to stories of debt and depleted savings accounts. While many enter this world in search of adventure and success, knowing one's limits is essential to avoiding financial disaster.

that is true, first and foremost, the person who would want himself to get involved with gambling activities should know possible repercussions in terms of his financials, mental health and other aspects of his life that will have direct impact because of this activity.
because if you will just follow your own desires, definitely, you can easily go to the brink of addiction.
while it is still early, much better manage your priorities in life and be firm about it. so you won't regret later on about your choices in life.

I would say that winning is the most important part, but that also means that you could gamble very little and win very little and be happy anyway. That's the point of gambling frugally I assume, sure if you bet 1 cent and win 2 cents back, that's just 1 cent profit and that will not change your life, but at least you would be happy about it and you would be the winner, and if you end up losing then you just lost 1 cent, that's nothing to anyone all around the world, and that would not be something to be upset about.

If you wager with 5 dollars, that means you have 500 times chance to lose, and you could lose it all, and 5 dollars wouldn't be big in most places as well I assume, probably nowhere that's a big amount. So all in all you just wagered with 500 chances to lose and you still ended up having some fun and that should be what we are going on with, and I believe that we could make it work one way or another. Doesn't have to be like that at all times, but I think it could be a good way.

I'm perhaps the most frugal gambler you'll find out there, most fiat currency sites have "gubbed" my accounts because I just took advantage of the offers and left with "their" money instead of letting them drain my wallet. There's one site in my country that for some reason does not touch my account and lets me continue playing the many free spin games offered throughout the week. Most days it's fifty cents worth, or a few dollars, but occasionally there will be a $15 payout. I just checked my account today and over the lifetime of the account it has earned approximately $750 from taking advantage of all the things like this they've offered over the years including sport bet freebies.

This something most persons do not consider before ever embarking on the gambling journey, they just think they would just make money and that's all that matters, just like they would talk about every job having their hazards associated with them gambling as well has its own but most persons don't look on that side and probably develop a coping mechanism before getting involved.

Their is a thin line between addiction and feeling like you are still in control, you can be addicted already while still feeling like you are still in control, but until you are hit severally by the after effects of addiction they you would be able to recognize how much you might have lost control while still thinking you are in control. If only people can exclusively gamble with the sole aim of having fun then there maybe no need to be frugal and all that.

Everyone minds his or her business when it comes to gambling. Self-control should be our main target, that quality would boost our confident and persuades us to generate the significant profits we deserved in the system. Indulging in gambling activities, there's basically disciplinary measures to follow, the system is vast. Gambling is dangerous but most people anticipate in it simply to foot in their bills from the system. But they're ignorant of the fact that it's risky and unreliable.  Making money is the ultimate priority of all gamblers in the system. Been a frugal gambler, there are certain rules that ought to be abide by.

Ideally, gambling is for fun, but gambling is an activity related to money, so over time people will think that gambling can make money, espesialy for those who have experience in getting jackpots. When they spend a lot of money on gambling sites, they become stressed and increase their bets in the hope of winning. It is better to forget about the money lost in gambling because chasing losses is a sign that a gambler has become a gambling addict

Gambling is a fun activity but it can end in horror. A teenage boy in my village finally hanged himself because he had a lot of debt and could no longer pay it.

I highly agree with what @letteredhub stated.  When we say frugal, they are people who do not like to waste resources.  They even avoid entertainment just to save money.  For them anything that is not spent on basic needs is a waste, so frugal people will more likely avoid gambling because of the risk involved in losing money.  Instead of using frugal, it is more appropriate to use responsible gambler, IMHO.  Since I believe @OP is trying to convey to manage our bankroll and finance responsibly.

most important thing is that before starting gambling activities, it better to understand how gambling works and this can be understood by novice gamblers to try to understand how gambling actually works and how to continue gambling safely.

if someone who wants to start gambling has a more mature understanding of gambling they will definitely have a broad mindset or usually referred to as a healthy mindset to bet using money they can afford to lose and still bet responsibly without having to chase losses or losses because of this its all just about luck based games and instilling the mind that the casino always wins which will indoctrinate our minds to be afraid of putting large amount of money into the casino.

Doesnt really need for you to have that criticial thinking or whatever things that you do need to do on which you would really be just simply needing up that common sense and self awareness on the thing that you've been dealing with then you would really be that just able to assess on what are the things that you must do on the time that you would really be that having that kind of engagement specially on gambling.It doesnt really need up with some serious approach if you are really just that treating it as a past time or something that really talks about being entertainment which it is really just that the function of it in the first place.It did really just that turn out that things turns out to be messy just because of peoples mindset and hopes do really changed up.

Each person is really that different when it comes to things on which on the time that they would really be that having those kind of intents specially on making money then of course it would really be changing up their
perceptions towards things. We know that gambling could really give out that kind of experience and possibilities on making money on instant way on which they would really be that be thinking
that getting rich with gambling would really be that easy without even trying to look back on how risky it would be on having those kind of assumptions and this what
makes this industry becomes so profitable due into that kind of common behavior.

To be a frugal gambler is more easy wherein one made the choice on their own to gamble and under no peer or pressure or duress.
It's more about knowing the best games to gamble on, that's the games that are easy to predict and win or place bet on and win. Not every game or casino games are easy for everyone to understand and mostly to bet and win on.

It is also important to know how much one originally earns to be able to afford gambling. Wherein one also has no much responsibility and earns much more, gambling may become the order of the day mostly when close friends and pals indulge in it.
The hack is to know when one has exceeded spending limit for gambling and to gamble more with a sober mind than being drunk or tipsy to the point where one doesn't consider morals or principles.

It surely is, what's the fun if you just keep losing? No one plays to lose, but there is a difference between gamblers who gamble for fun and those who do it to earn money, even though both of them play to win, but one finds winning fun and losing nothing that regretting, and the other finds winning pleasing and losing stressful which is what makes them chase their losses because they can't accept their losses thinking that they will run out of money and if that happens, they won't be able to earn anything.

This is basically what makes a lot of people suffer financial instability in their lives after they start gambling, because they don't do it with a limited budget, they don't just want to have some fun and go away, but they do it to increase the money they have and eventually lose it all and leave with a lot of regret.

It is better to be a gambler who can save his expenses in gambling than to force his desire to continue gambling while he does not know when he will win. By doing this, he can enjoy his time gambling and not expect to win too much and let the winnings come to him. If he doesn't win that day, he will stop gambling and leave the casino and maybe he won't for a few days to avoid a stronger desire to gamble especially since he has experienced losses before. He knows that gambling is entertainment and for that reason, he doesn't force himself to gamble for too long because he doesn't want to lose more. He tries to limit himself from gambling for too long so he can save his money so he can use it another day.

If you are professional gambler you can't be a frugal person. A professional gambler have enough freedom of money because those who gamble you all know that how much money a gambler earn. If you are in a beginners stage you must be a economical person. Because you don't have enough amount of money to invest in gambling. Because the stage of beginner you have to invest from your own earning or savings money. If you are not frugal person at the first stage of starting the beginning of gambling. Sure you will face economical problem because you don't have huge amount of money if you lost the money then you have to suffer a lot for take second time risk. After learning gambling and get experience up and after earning money if your professional gamble you are not that much kind of economical because you have huge amount of money to use that's the reason at the education stage of gambling you must be frugal person.