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Title: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Hewlet on October 07, 2023, 05:49:30 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Poker Player on October 07, 2023, 05:55:15 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on October 07, 2023, 06:35:10 AM
the economy is currently so tangled that it does not matter in which sector a country specializes. It's important that there's $$ in it. As the poker player pointed out. Without oil, there are no combine harvesters in the fields and without natural gas, there are no fertilizers. Without this, no matter how large the fields are, it will still be cheaper to buy grain from a neighboring country with money from the sale of processors than to collect grain by hand and sow new crops without fertilizers.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bluebit25 on October 07, 2023, 06:41:33 AM
Although it is understandable what the OP mentioned, perhaps this comparison is not fair. We need to include oil in the list of resources to see the role it will play in our development.

- The issue of natural resources of the country, region,... brings a great advantage in times of industrial development and is also the reason why countries in the West Asian region have become richer like So. But we should also look at the problem from another perspective when there are cases of possessing abundant resources like countries in South America or Africa, but they cannot be rich while under sanctions.

- Agriculture is always the foundation of long-term development. No matter how strong a country is, they must always find ways to maintain and develop this industry to serve them, as shown in the economic context in recent years. Nowadays, food is increasingly scarce and expensive, making the problem of hunger even more widespread. I have also heard about the price of rice increasing and have also seen the generosity of a country providing aid real quantity. Vietnam gifts Cuba 5,000 tonnes of rice (https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vietnam-gifts-cuba-5-000-tonnes-of-rice-4596270.html)

In a different aspect, they all have a great influence on our lives today, so I don't think which one is more important because they have a relationship of support and service for people.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: mindrust on October 07, 2023, 06:47:54 AM
Both are important but i think oil is way important. You can grow basic food almost anywhere. Potatoes for example, they grow very fast and easy and we consume them every day. There are also greenhouse products. This tech lets you grow anything anywhere. Let’s just say, if you invest enough time and money, you can grow your own food but if you don’t have oil, you can‘t grow it no matter how hard you try. You can only buy it from somebody else. Oil and gas are the most important energy sources. Without them the civilization would collapse.

Tldr; oil > agri


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Strongkored on October 07, 2023, 07:37:17 AM
All countries depend on each other, no country can meet its own needs without the help of other countries, that's why no country is great in all fields so they always open up opportunities for cooperation in order to get what they don't have but need.
So oil and agriculture need each other, farmers need oil to run their machines and oil rich countries need agricultural products for their food, so who is most important? nothing because everything is needed and important.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: CageMabok on October 07, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
In fact, people in countries with larger oil producers do not ignore other local natural resources, but they only care more about the potential for greater income, so they no longer care about income through agriculture. But that doesn't mean they will eliminate agriculture in their own country because they will still look at this sector even if only to meet their needs because the income sector already exists through oil resources.

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But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
The agricultural sector is indeed a very important sector for all countries because it is related to the issue of food and the daily needs consumed by all people. But other sectors such as oil natural resources also need to be considered to make the country's income bigger and more advanced. You can look at the oil producing countries in the world which on average can become more developed, and do not experience excessive difficulties in other economic sectors such as agriculture.

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
That is quite logical, but countries that have progressed through oil resources can also use small areas of land for agriculture even though the state is not so focused on their own agricultural products because perhaps the government has its own way of making sure that the country does not experience difficulties in agricultural sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: jossiel on October 07, 2023, 08:28:09 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Both.

With oil, even with the popularity of EVs it's still needed and the same goes with the agriculture. Both are needed and there's no need to have a debate on it.

I think those countries that are rich in oil and knows how to manage it really takes care of themselves even without agricultural lands just look at the middle eastern countries like Saudi, Dubai, etc.

Whilst for the agricultural lands, they have their food country and that's also another form and sign of good economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: philipma1957 on October 07, 2023, 08:29:57 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

yeah I would also argue this and opportunity to make a living as more of what helps a county do well. Many parts of the world if you are born into a poor family you will not become middle class no less rich. So some opportunity to  earn more than your parents is a big deal.  Some places there is no way you will be allowed to more upwards out of poverty.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: NeilLostBitCoin on October 07, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
Oil is a valuable resource that can significantly impact a country's economy. The oil demand is high, which makes the oil industry more profitable than agriculture. However, only a few countries can supply oil, unlike agriculture, which can be grown domestically or found in many countries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Hatchy on October 07, 2023, 10:24:19 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
The simple answer op is, Both agriculture and oil contribute to a country's economy. Oil rich countries can become wealthy, but if they don't invest in agriculture, they might spend a lot of their oil money on food. The importance of each sector depends on factors like how much oil a country has, its development level, and the global oil market. Oil can bring in a lot of money, but a strong and reliable agriculture sector is crucial for food, jobs, and economic stability. It's best for a country to balance both sectors for long-term economic strength.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: lombok on October 07, 2023, 10:40:05 AM
I think oil is superior. A real example is the United Arab Emirates, the UAE has been able to develop so far because of its oil. With the wealth they generate, they are able to fulfill several other important sectors even though the land there is barren and deserted.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: hugeblack on October 07, 2023, 11:12:11 AM
If we talk about the countries of the Arabian Gulf, most of them do not have sufficient agricultural areas and therefore resort to solutions. For example, Qatar cultivates large areas in Australia, where it has rented land, and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has agreements in Argentina and Brazil, which provided them with animal meat products, and the Emirates has multiple partnerships, Therefore, the Gulf countries need other countries in terms of food and security, which is known in the Petrodollar Agreement.
We would like to mention Russia, which possesses large lands that enable it to produce oil and agriculture, but what is happening now has made globalization very difficult and trust in other countries even more difficult.
So it is not black and white or Agriculture vs oil


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: stompix on October 07, 2023, 11:20:26 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Water  ;D
You can't have any agriculture without water and most oil requires also water to be pumped into the wells to keep the pressure up.
But all three of them are nothing compared to the real black gold, the grey matter in the head of the ones leading the country, if there is none there, all the gold, oil, water, agriculture will be of no help.

I think oil is superior. A real example is the United Arab Emirates, the UAE has been able to develop so far because of its oil. With the wealth they generate, they are able to fulfill several other important sectors even though the land there is barren and deserted.

I see your UAE, I throw in Japan with no agriculture and no oil and I raise you Venezuela with a ton of oil and one mm away from famine.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Gozie51 on October 07, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
Oil is still regarded as the highest revenue source above agriculture and since it is higher in ROI, proceed excess from it can be used in the purchase of agricultural products or exchange of it.

Apart from United Arab Emirates (UAE) , Nigeria is one other oil producing country that has depended on this natural resources to sustain her skeletal development. Although Nigeria has well enough landmass for agriculture but unfortunately the government concentrate more on quick and fast resources that guarantee huge money for her projects, evident that oil has more financial potential than agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Huppercase on October 07, 2023, 11:43:49 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No!, that's not entirely accurate as you describe. Oil is given first class priority onlyby the countries that have this resources, they are blessed Hy nature and since oil is an catalyst that boom their economy, they don't joke with it, in addition they are in abundant which means they make more revenue from it and hence the reason why such counties don't prioritize agriculture. Use Qatar for example, they are oily rich country that grow littlenon agriculture.

Other countries on the other hand that are not oil dependents don't have choice but to concentrate on other sectors like Technology and agriculture, use China as example, they don't have oil but that has not stop their economy from been the leadership in the world, they still dominate this world with wealth despite not been not oil country and they are blessed with medicines too, other countries patronize them also and they make mad money from these  alternatives.

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Whether you want Agricultural or Oil, it's depend on the country that has the oil, Countries that are blessed with abundant oil reserve and gas reserve might focus on Oil production than Agricultural and countries that don't have oil will focus on Agriculture to enhance their economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: JunaidAzizi on October 07, 2023, 11:53:58 AM
war or political differences they might suffer.

Yeah in war the country that are importing good foods are more suffer because the opposing one hold and close the border for her but not only this but the other who are exporting oil will also suffer because the rest of the countries stop purchasing oil from it to pressurize her. For that, The liberals give a suggestion to make dependency on each other when they are dependent on each they will never go to war.

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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
before 2010 oil was the biggest economic strength then agriculture and produced more revenue than agricultural products and took less time while agriculture needed 6 months to come. But today I think agriculture has been good several times as the world is shifting from oil to electric and solar systems. Let's take the example of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia they shift their country's revenue to tourism and other things, Just go and search about MBS mission 2030, in which the prience less dependency on oils and shifts it to the tourist spots.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: icalical on October 07, 2023, 12:20:06 PM
If we talk about the effect on economic strength, then Oil is definitely has more significant effect on it. First of all, the modern agriculture also relies on oil, all those machine was running on oil. Other than that, almost all countries has fertile soil, where they can grew crops and make farm, but not many countries has oil resources, thus make supply were much less than the demand. And this is why many countries now trying to move to renewable energy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: coupable on October 07, 2023, 12:35:30 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
While oil production does not depend in any of its stages on agriculture, agriculture has become dependent in many of its stages on petroleum products that help it operate the necessary machines and active factories in the food industries. Just as a country cannot survive without agricultural products, it cannot build a pastoral economy based on agriculture without relying on oil to the same degree. There are countries that still depend on the non-mechanized pastoral economy, but they do not achieve significant development in terms of productivity except through the large number of manual labor.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Sayeds56 on October 07, 2023, 01:49:07 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

The discussion over importance of agriculture versus oil for the strength of a country is very interesting and complex one, and largely depends on a range of factors, such as availability of natural resources, country's specific circumstances and its political and economic strategies. Both oil and agriculture have their merits and challenges and their significance can vary from to another nation. Personally, I place strong emphasis on development of agriculture, given its critical role as its to meet basic needs of human and animals beside proving raw material for numerous industries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fortify on October 07, 2023, 02:15:03 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

You're comparing apples and oranges, for no meaningful outcome. Oil is a commodity extracted for purposes like energy or production of materials like plastic. Agriculture in under developed societies can require a lot of back break labor by thousands of people on covering hectares of space. However those fields in more advanced societies with technological assistance can be looked after by less than 5 people. This frees up that hard working labor pool for other more useful jobs and is what every country is aspiring towards.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: inthelongrun on October 07, 2023, 02:15:44 PM
Both are very important and necessary but oil is more scarce which is why it is given more attention than agriculture in some countries. The superpowers meanwhile are balancing both. Russia and the US have enough oil while at the same time having stable agriculture. China on the other hand keeps on exploring its vast land for more oil for sustainability but its agriculture is also doing fine.

Countries with vast oil reserves are getting rich but they are also trying too hard to build their agriculture even if most of their lands are sandy. Egypt and Qatar for example with the help of technology have billions of dollars in projects that are aimed at improving their agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: knowngunman on October 07, 2023, 02:22:25 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

This is a very controversial issue and it'll be difficult to tell which is more important because it depends on the specific country and it's economic. But generally, agriculture is important when it comes to food security and oil on the hand is important for energy sector and revenue generation. Poker player has said it all in his comment above and it's obvious that both can not do without each other.

We all know the importance of food in a country but the way you put it up there sounds as if agriculture is all what a country need to survive. May I remind you that Saudi Arabia is a bit less successful when it comes to agriculture due to lack of arable land and arid climate but solely rely on oil, in fact, Saudi's economy is often describe as petrostate because of her reliance on oil and you can not tell us that Saudi will suffer from food scarcity because of her less engagement in agricultural sector.



Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on October 07, 2023, 02:49:55 PM
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The world already has seen the possibility of the Russia-Ukrainian war. Ukraine is one of the countries that supplies a large amount of wheat worldwide. We have seen the effect when Ukraine could not export wheat and many other food products. The countries always depend on each other. The world depends on the Middle East's oils, while the Middle East depends on other countries' exported products. It's all about give and take.

The supply of oils is not unlimited. It has a limitation. Most Middle Eastern countries are already developing their architecture by selling oils to make money from other sources. Of course, I agree that oils have a significant effect on the productivity of agriculture!


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Z_MBFM on October 07, 2023, 04:11:28 PM
Agriculture sector is still much more demanding than oil.  However, oil can only be mined in certain countries.  Agriculture sector is present in every country of the world due to which its demand is more than oil, but since every country has agriculture sector, agricultural products are less exported than oil. oil is only available in certain countries, they supply the whole world and that is why they grow very fast economically. But if these two things are voted on, I will definitely support agriculture


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MFahad on October 07, 2023, 04:14:36 PM
Both play an excellent role in country's economy and we cannot avoid any of these because if any one if these become scared in our country so we will be dependent on other countries for such resource. It is necessary for every country that they should manage those activities which are suitable and help to increase the growth of agriculture sectors as well as oil.

Everything gets expensive when oil become expensive because energy is greatly concerned with our transportation system so if transportation become difficult everything will become difficult and there everyone will faced hardship in exporting and importing necessary materials. Agriculture sectors can be made productive by following certain strategies but we cannot find more oil than present reservoirs of our country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Egii Nna on October 07, 2023, 04:21:41 PM
Based on consideration, both are very important, but if you are going to choose which of them will increase the income of the country, I will go for agriculture because agriculture increases the income of the country faster than oil. If you have good mechanisms and strategies for agriculture, I bet you will prosper. In an instant, China, Brazil, the United States, India, and many of them produce agricultural products a lot and feed a large number of people in the country, but I am not terminating oil. I have more interest in agriculture than oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Argoo on October 07, 2023, 04:24:50 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
In general, we can agree with your statements. But the global economy is not confused: current applied technologies in all sectors of the economy are rapidly becoming more complex. Any strong state can no longer produce all the necessary products and therefore countries are forced to follow the path of specialization in certain groups of goods. As for agriculture, the need for specialization is even more severe, since it is necessary to take into account the moisture content of the soil. Therefore, not all states can successfully develop agriculture. This is especially felt during periods of natural disasters and major wars that affect traditional agricultural producers. Russia's current military attack on Ukraine, which is a traditional exporter of agricultural products, is an example of such an artificial imbalance.

The world's oil reserves are dwindling, and food is increasingly valuable as food becomes increasingly scarce in a world with a growing population. While it is relatively easy to switch from oil as a fuel to other energy sources, and this is very important now, when the climate is changing rapidly, it is not yet possible to replace agricultural products.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 07, 2023, 04:37:41 PM
Oil is power mates. So much so that some people consider data is the new oil, meaning it has been a big commodity and will be surpassed only by data.

Agriculture is doing well in most countries, otherwise civilization would not have worked it way out there. You would not see cities booming in the middle of the Thar desert, of course because water and agriculture are poor there. So it out of the question whether a country's agriculture is good or bad, if its bad, no humans would live there.

Importing crops and all seems like a difficult deal, although done but much less than other commodities.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: rat03gopoh on October 07, 2023, 04:38:23 PM
Depending on the context of your question, what is called the state, is that income only for the state or social welfare?
Basically it depends on geological conditions, the people of a country may be more dominant as farmers because natural potential can give them the opportunity to grow crops throughout the year, this also applies vice versa for oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Zlantann on October 07, 2023, 04:58:14 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Agriculture is far better than oil. Humans will continue eating the same kind of food but the world power source will keep evolving. My city was the richest a century ago because we had large deposits of coal. Today coal is worthless and we are one of the poorest states that depends on the financial allocation of the federal government to survive. But the other agricultural states are financially buoyant and it has been so for many years. Crude oil will soon become obsolete but humans will keep eating grains for millions of years in the future. Very soon agricultural machines will be powered by electricity, solar, and other means,  oil will be ditched.

If we talk about the effect on economic strength, then Oil is definitely has more significant effect on it. First of all, the modern agriculture also relies on oil, all those machine was running on oil. Other than that, almost all countries has fertile soil, where they can grew crops and make farm, but not many countries has oil resources, thus make supply much less than the demand. And this is why many countries now trying to move to renewable energy.

It is not every country that has enough arable land to feed its population. Even if their lands are fertile some of them have to rely on imports from other countries for some certain agricultural produce. The weather condition determines the kind of crop that can be productive in each country so there will always be interdependence.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: |MINER| on October 07, 2023, 05:29:52 PM
However, your comparisons are incorrect. But I think oil is more important.  Oil is needed to produce any crop.  Most of the grain production machines are oil operated.  Without oil, a country's operations would come to a standstill.  Cereals are grown in almost all countries.  Agriculture is also very important for a country.  No country can run without agriculture.  Because if a country does not produce crops then it has to depend entirely on other countries for food which is never good for a country.  But without oil it is not possible to carry out agricultural work. Do you really understand what I mean, I'm actually talking about this era where without oil it will not be possible to grow competitively.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Negotiation on October 07, 2023, 07:00:22 PM
The role of agriculture in the economic strength of a country is important agriculture is the largest sector of employment. A large section of the population depends on agriculture for their livelihood although paddy and jute are the main crops here wheat is of greater importance. Tea is cultivated in the north eastern region due to the abundance of fertile land and water rice is grown and cultivated three times a year in many regions. But in recent times oil is needed in the age of technology where everything is mechanized using diesel powered agricultural machinery for tillage, harvesting transportation threshing threshing and irrigation. The coming season will further increase the use of a large number of diesel powered irrigation pumps.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cabron on October 07, 2023, 07:21:59 PM

Oil is power. Its what is needed for a country to proper. Even if the country only have few agricultural land, they can develop more agricultural lands once they have the money from oil.
What is happening with OPEC today who controls our gas prices, is an evidence of what they can do.

Its why there is PetroDollar agreement with Saudis but this seem to be fading now so the countries dependent on gas/oil is getting wrecked by the day.  But true that if the country have agricultural lands though, they can provide food security for the people.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: topbitcoin on October 07, 2023, 07:42:37 PM
be it agriculture or mining (oil), both have an important role in human life. In carrying out daily activities and carrying out work, we cannot be separated from machines, both in the agricultural and factory sectors, which both require petroleum energy sources to start tractor engines so they can plow fields, as well as factories which require petroleum. the factory can operate.

However, even though these two things are important, the agricultural sector must be a top priority to address food availability in every country so that it can ensure the survival of humanity. And indeed, currently the condition of the agricultural sector in most countries is very worrying. There is no regeneration because the younger generation is now reluctant to work as farmers and prefers to work in offices rather than as farmers for reasons of prestige, land is increasingly scarce and the availability of fertilizer is increasingly scarce. And these things are still the main problems in the agricultural sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: franky1 on October 07, 2023, 07:44:47 PM
42 gallons (158 litres) of oil costs $85 wholesale
158litres of fruit juice costs more then $85 whole sale
what more needs to be said about the sales potential of agriculture without the complications of prospecting, extracting, refining  


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Baki202 on October 07, 2023, 07:57:09 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Countries like Nigeria have diversify there attention from agriculture for a very long time and have focused on fuel and its all in a matter of time, car production are adoption green energy usage so the demand of fuel will reduce over time,  and agriculture is  everlasting because people must eat, agriculture is something people can not do without but the government is doing is neglecting agriculture.  And to me agriculture comes with more economy strength if taking seriously. With time a lot of countries will know the importance of agriculture and know that fuel won't be important for ever.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on October 07, 2023, 08:15:28 PM
Without agriculture, that is food, I don't see how the refineries would function because the operators got to eat to have strength to drill to the depths that oil resides.
Agriculture business is one huge industry that cannot be shoved aside as we see when its price gets high or import and export trade of it gets restrained.
The oil industry might be very necessary but we have seen alternatives to its use that even automobiles and generators now run on electric current, water, gas and even solar.

If I were to buy stocks or investment in any between these two sectors, I would invest about 60% more in agriculture than in the oil market.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: romero121 on October 07, 2023, 08:34:56 PM
Without agriculture, that is food, I don't see how the refineries would function because the operators got to eat to have strength to drill to the depths that oil resides.
Agriculture business is one huge industry that cannot be shoved aside as we see when its price gets high or import and export trade of it gets restrained.
The oil industry might be very necessary but we have seen alternatives to its use that even automobiles and generators now run on electric current, water, gas and even solar.

If I were to buy stocks or investment in any between these two sectors, I would invest about 60% more in agriculture than in the oil market.
Agriculture is the base that fulfill the basic need of human beings. So, the first priority should be on agriculture and not upon oil which in recent days have served as one among the essential thing. The investment over agriculture have grown high from the corporates. This itself shows the priority, and for the oil rich countries countries the economy depends much on oil. Even those countries have begun to develop artificial farm lands that are used for cultivation of different crops. Alternate source to oil is getting importance soon after the war between Ukraine and Russia and countries even begun to develop infrastructure for the same.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bushdark on October 07, 2023, 09:09:13 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is an important aspect of an economy so you don't have to see oil as something that does nots determine the fast tracking of a country growth when we related to the use of heavy and light weight machineries that are used in the farm for planting and harvesting.

This is why she can see that Russia will keep seeing oil to other countries like India and China because they depend highly on oil to keep there manpower on production level. Agriculture is also another part that a country need to maintain or else something devastating can happen in a long run if other countries decided to halt there food exportation like the way India did.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Synchronice on October 07, 2023, 09:13:10 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

Seems, both of you, probably unintentionally, missed that oil and agriculture can't work at its best without scientists, including chemists, physicists and engineers. In order to have qualified personnel, you have to run great universities and do scientific researches. So, what's the best economical strength? Agriculture, Oil or Education? Then there is a manpower, no one wants to work in agriculture or in oil, also, it's very hard and requires talent/willingness to become a scientist. So, we have four power/advantage right now instead of only oil and agriculture. Every country lacks at least one of them, so, as you see, economic strength of each country still depends on other countries.
Probably, right now, the most advantage has Norway when it comes to all of these four. According to food safety index, they are number 3, according to oil reserves, they have plenty for themselves and export it in another countries, then comes education, they are highly educated and have great universities and manpower, they are vikings!


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: philipma1957 on October 07, 2023, 09:19:32 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

Seems, both of you, probably unintentionally, missed that oil and agriculture can't work at its best without scientists, including chemists, physicists and engineers. In order to have qualified personnel, you have to run great universities and do scientific researches. So, what's the best economical strength? Agriculture, Oil or Education? Then there is a manpower, no one wants to work in agriculture or in oil, also, it's very hard and requires talent/willingness to become a scientist. So, we have four power/advantage right now instead of only oil and agriculture. Every country lacks at least one of them, so, as you see, economic strength of each country still depends on other countries.
Probably, right now, the most advantage has Norway when it comes to all of these four. According to food safety index, they are number 3, according to oil reserves, they have plenty for themselves and export it in another countries, then comes education, they are highly educated and have great universities and manpower, they are vikings!

USA has plenty of oil food labor and scientists
China has plenty of coal food labor and scientists.

They are possibly the top two in the world 🌎.

Russia has fuel food labor and scientists.

They are likely number three.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DVlog on October 07, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Why are we making this comparison? Both are essential for our economy. When agriculture grows and cultivates crops for our economy on the other hand oil keeps the wheel of the economy running. Some people think extracting natural resources from the ground is damaging our environment and reducing farmland. This can be partially true but that doesn't mean our food cultivation has decreased. Technological advancement and research in the agricultural sector give us highly productive seed for crops.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: royalfestus on October 07, 2023, 09:24:42 PM
It's important to recognize that not all countries can engage in agriculture as a primary economic activity, especially those reliant on oil revenue. Limited arable land is a key factor, and some nations have a unique advantage in this regard. Take Singapore, for example, which boasts one of the world's strongest economies, despite a minimal GDP contribution from agriculture due to its limited farming areas. In situations like these, governments often compensate by using revenue generated from excess exports to purchase essential food items in bulk that they are unable to produce domestically. This strategy allows them to provide discounted food to their citizens.







Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Uruhara on October 07, 2023, 09:25:17 PM
Humans can survive even without oil. But humans will not survive without food obtained from agricultural products.

In my area, or more precisely, in my hometown, farming is still done using simple or classic methods, namely without machines. So we here will not be disturbed at all even without oil. So for us agriculture is more important.

And yes, if a country only depends on income from petroleum. and their agricultural sector is poor. Which means they rely on food from abroad. So, when there is a war and when every country stops selling food between countries, it is the country that is worst in the agricultural sector that will have the most food-related difficulties first.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 07, 2023, 09:26:13 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

This is not entirely true, just because they're not putting attention on agriculture doesn't mean they're forgetting about it. When there's natural resources that's more profitable and the strength of a nation, more attention is been given to that resources and that's what the oil producing national are doing. The money gotten from the sales of the oils is used to develop other sectors of the country including the agricultural sector because to work effectively on agriculture, you need funding and this funds can't be printed unlimitedly or you'll bring about inflation to your country's currency. Other countries that focus on agriculture and exportation of their goods need others to buy it and that's what the money gotten from selling oil is used for by the country that has oil as their main export. The needs for balance in the world is necessary, every nation can't have everything, importation and exportation is necessary among nations for human survival.

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer

During those war times there'll still be importation and exportation going on between countries that are allies, as Russian and Ukraine are fighting, while it seems every nation is cancelling Russia, they still have countries that they're allies to and trades are going on between the two or more nations. As a country you have to focus on the national resources that you have as your strength and develop it to the point that it gives you leverage. The Arab nation have been able to turn the fate of their nation around because they built on the oil they found, others can do the same with the national resources they have. Both agriculture and oil is important until something else takes over. Agriculture though is more important for human survival and every nation has a little bit of it but we have nations that agriculture is their main export.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: goaldigger on October 07, 2023, 09:54:54 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
You don’t have to choose on this as long as you have this kind of resources, and the government support is there then this can be your biggest strength. Just like in Middle east where there is no agriculture but they have the Oil resources and their economic status is still high because of this. In my country, Agriculture is very important but our government always fail to prioritize this and that’s why we are being forces to import goods despite of having a good land for Agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: flipme on October 07, 2023, 10:06:04 PM
You can regulate your agricultural policy according to the geographical and climatic conditions of your country, but you cannot regulate your oil needs in any way. If you have oil, you have it or you don't. I think oil is a more important item. Also, you can build advanced industrial cities with petroleum products and you can compete more easily with your competitors in the world because you have the raw materials. I think oil is more important, but oil resources are dwindling and one day they will run out. That's why Arab countries are investing in many sectors, including football.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: panganib999 on October 07, 2023, 11:21:36 PM
Agriculture isn't as profitable as oil right now, let's just face it. It's weird how it wasn't and all that stuff but once you realize why it's going to start to make sense.

Oil may need refinement and all that processes to become valuable and usable, but Agriculture isn't only full of processes and activities, it's also a very cumbersome process that requires years of experience, months of preparation, and maintenance that not only makes it even more hard to come by compared to oil, but it also shoots the value of agriculture by an astronomical amount. It's also worth noting that agriculture is completely dependent on Oil to be processed and used, transportation for export uses oil and petroleum to happen, and if we don't do it that way food would spoil and would cause even greater problems.

All of this delicate processes make Agriculture unbelievably harder to process compared to oil, that's why countries that are agricultural aren't specifically well-off either.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 07, 2023, 11:26:42 PM
The title of this topic says that even if the person is not educated, if it is a matter of survival, the choice is, of course, agriculture. Where does the food of all the people in the world come from? It's just common sense that we already know the answer to that.

Yes, oil helps us and helps nature, or so-called climate change, but can it provide food for billions of people around the world? The answer is no, but agriculture can do that. We also know that agriculture is also a source of renewable energy. That means it is important because all countries depend on it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 07, 2023, 11:55:07 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
You don’t have to choose on this as long as you have this kind of resources, and the government support is there then this can be your biggest strength. Just like in Middle east where there is no agriculture but they have the Oil resources and their economic status is still high because of this. In my country, Agriculture is very important but our government always fail to prioritize this and that’s why we are being forces to import goods despite of having a good land for Agriculture.

and also, it depends on how the country is exhausting their resources, whether in the oil or agricultural sector. if the government is good in developing their resources to cater the needs of its people, then, you don't need to choose which one is best for the country. somehow, it depends on the people who are leading its people. most are corrupt, hence, they can't implement what is really needed for their countrymen.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: poodle63 on October 08, 2023, 12:06:24 AM
both dependent to each other, agricultures depends on oil to boost its production, meanwhile agriculture also needed for the whole nation to get their basic needs fulfilled so it could mine oil.
its just as simple as that, there's reason why both are really sought after, because with both a country could boost whatever production and industrial it has.
so basically both are just something that can't be underestimated and what bridges them in the middle are the technology invented by many experts.
therefore if your country want to become strong country that are highly productive you need agriculture, technology, and oil as energy source though there are also other energy sources even better renewable energy but oil so far is most widely used.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: 0t3p0t on October 08, 2023, 01:53:37 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
I agree with you mate because I am living in an agricultural area that in an absense of oil in agriculture will result in not productive. Nowadays heavy machineries were involve in most activity in agriculture that replaced the traditional way of cultivating the land. Buffalos were replaced by tractors and harvesters as well.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: dothebeats on October 08, 2023, 03:00:20 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Was about to mention this. Perhaps OP is forgetting how much agriculture today is dependent on oil. Farmers are able to do their work faster and produce more products due to it and yet they are being compared. There is of course no doubt both are important as they affect each other in various different ways, hence why comparison isn't necessary.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Natsuu on October 08, 2023, 03:04:23 AM
the economy is currently so tangled that it does not matter in which sector a country specializes. It's important that there's $$ in it. As the poker player pointed out. Without oil, there are no combine harvesters in the fields and without natural gas, there are no fertilizers. Without this, no matter how large the fields are, it will still be cheaper to buy grain from a neighboring country with money from the sale of processors than to collect grain by hand and sow new crops without fertilizers.

It's just that one commodity affects the other. Like here in my country, the price of grain bought from the farmers was just too cheap, it's the processing to rice and importing it to other places makes it expensive like 4x time the price from being grain. If only the government truly cares to the farmer and how rich in resource the philippine island is, i probably would be living in a great country and economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Suzume on October 08, 2023, 03:15:45 AM
According to me there are two major contributions to make the economy of a country work. Because there is no single contribution behind the economic development of a country. There are many countries that maintain their economy between agriculture and oil, and there are many countries that depend on oil and others on agriculture. Countries determine their economic status by looking at their country's production from their geographical location. There are many countries which due to geographical conditions do not have agriculture but they have many oil mine. Again many countries do not have oil mines. They are improving their economy through agricultural work. For this reason agriculture and oil are important behind a country's economy due to their geographical location.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Pejoh Asu on October 08, 2023, 03:36:31 AM
Now more and more machines or factories are switching from oil to alternative sources, oil reserves are decreasing which of course makes oil prices more expensive and many countries are providing policies to support alternative energy, some oil countries are currently rich countries, but I'm sure 100 or In 200 years, countries that still survive on agriculture will be able to control the world.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: mamesso on October 08, 2023, 03:44:01 AM
The mutualistic symbiosis is very close between the two, I mean, countries that have abundant oil resources need results from the agricultural sector to meet the food needs of their countries. Countries that produce food from agriculture need oil resources to keep their economies running. A country's economic strength results from resources that are abundant and have long-term reserves. Middle Eastern countries have great economic power, they are able to export agricultural products from other countries with the power of money they have.
Oil and agricultural products are both needed in human life, but they both have different ways of determining the economic strength of a country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Sayeds56 on October 08, 2023, 06:39:37 AM
Now more and more machines or factories are switching from oil to alternative sources, oil reserves are decreasing which of course makes oil prices more expensive and many countries are providing policies to support alternative energy, some oil countries are currently rich countries, but I'm sure 100 or In 200 years, countries that still survive on agriculture will be able to control the world.

It is true that popularity of green energy is growing globally, and both factories and individuals for their domestic requirements are switching to sources of alternative energy due to depleting oil resources and concerns about environment. Consequently, the counties heavily reliant on oil resources are likely to encounter economic challenges as its paramount significance diminishes.Hence, it is essential for these nations to divert their financial resources towards development of agriculture, a sector poised to retain its role in ensuring human survival.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on October 08, 2023, 12:04:04 PM
        -   Since they are both equally vital, it may not be appropriate to highlight one over the other. Because they are equally needed by people all across the world. However, we are aware that we require agriculture more than ever because it, of course, plays a significant role in assisting people in all nations in their daily lives.

In addition to what I just said, agriculture may aid not only in human survival but also in the provision of jobs for people and even in the economy, which benefits both our nation and every other nation in the globe. .Therefore, agriculture truly makes a significant contribution.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Rupok on October 08, 2023, 01:05:12 PM
Today agriculture is highly dependent on oil so I think agriculture vs oil, both are needed for the economic power of a country. Modern agriculture is now dependent on oil, modern machines like power tiller pumps need oil to run.  But not all countries are oil rich and all countries are agriculture dependent, only some countries are non-agricultural.  Only few countries can supply oil such as Middle East countries like United Arab Emirates.It is true that countries overly dependent on oil resources may face economic challenges.If we look at the countries that are rich in oil, that countries prospered very quickly.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: red4slash on October 08, 2023, 02:38:16 PM
Now more and more machines or factories are switching from oil to alternative sources, oil reserves are decreasing which of course makes oil prices more expensive and many countries are providing policies to support alternative energy, some oil countries are currently rich countries, but I'm sure 100 or In 200 years, countries that still survive on agriculture will be able to control the world.

It is true that popularity of green energy is growing globally, and both factories and individuals for their domestic requirements are switching to sources of alternative energy due to depleting oil resources and concerns about environment. Consequently, the counties heavily reliant on oil resources are likely to encounter economic challenges as its paramount significance diminishes.Hence, it is essential for these nations to divert their financial resources towards development of agriculture, a sector poised to retain its role in ensuring human survival.
Why compare when you can do both at the same time? Oil is important, but agriculture is also important. Perhaps the difference is that some countries rely on the oil sector because they have abundant oil reserves, while others focus on agriculture. I think these two things should be utilized without comparing them. As I said before, if you can use both, why not do it together, especially since both are important sectors in life.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: lizarder on October 08, 2023, 03:00:56 PM
But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
Agriculture is the breadbasket of life for mankind and agriculture is considered very important as a sector that can generate state income if cultivated and managed well. Without agricultural land, the source of basic needs will become one of the targets for imports from outside and if the country is not strong in economic terms, then small communities will experience a big impact on the problems that will occur.

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
But you also have to know that nowadays agriculture also needs oil because the land is cultivated using machines. Traditional methods are no longer the case now so oil is also an important part of the agricultural sector. The exchange of one sector for another between countries is a normal thing. If these two sectors are not owned by a particular country then there must be other measures that need to be taken into account, so that the country does not cause big problems regarding these two sectors.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Of course these two sectors are equally needed so there is no choice but to have both and even if they don't exist then we have to look at the country's concept. What sectors does the country rely on for income because different countries may have different development concepts that are applied through certain sectors.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 08, 2023, 03:16:13 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I don't know which countries are you mentioning here but if I am not wrong there is not many countries on the list that are filled with both oil and natural resources for agriculture so others were doing best with what they have.

In general, if we talk about oil middle Eastern countries will come to mind where there is not much places to do agricultural activities even though still they are creating an environment for agriculture and trying to cultivate some crops in a controlled environment which is only possible with the money they made from their oil resources.

If you expect a country to self-sustain with their only resources then what you are suggesting is nothing but to follow what North Korea is doing.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: South Park on October 08, 2023, 04:55:29 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
You are talking as if a country could make a choice when this is not true, some countries have oil but not enough land which can be used for agriculture so they need to import food, some other countries have the land to sustain themselves but not the oil so they have to import it, and some other countries are blessed to have both but they need to develop them and this requires a lot of investment, so I do not see why you are trying to make users to decide which one is more important than the other.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Juse14 on October 08, 2023, 05:59:20 PM
Today agriculture is highly dependent on oil so I think agriculture vs oil, both are needed for the economic power of a country. Modern agriculture is now dependent on oil, modern machines like power tiller pumps need oil to run.  But not all countries are oil rich and all countries are agriculture dependent, only some countries are non-agricultural.  Only few countries can supply oil such as Middle East countries like United Arab Emirates.It is true that countries overly dependent on oil resources may face economic challenges.If we look at the countries that are rich in oil, that countries prospered very quickly.

Not all agriculture relies on machines. There are several areas that still use traditional agricultural systems using livestock such as buffalo and cows which are used to plow the fields. However, in terms of time efficiency, if you use the traditional system, it takes quite a long time, while the need for food continues to increase every year, so that if you maintain the traditional system it will not be able to answer the need for food.

And currently several developed countries are very dependent on machines and technology to increase the productivity of agricultural products, however, with the progress and conditions of agriculture today, they are experiencing new problems apart from fertilizer which is experiencing a shortage. However, currently oil prices have increased so that these things have resulted in food and commodity prices also increasing.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fuso.hp on October 08, 2023, 06:05:38 PM
A country can trade through oil but if they have to sell oil to buy food then they cannot make the desired profit from selling that oil. No matter how advanced a country is, it is never a good decision to abandon agricultural technology. Abandonment of agriculture means direct dependence on other countries. Other countries are producing good crops and those crops are being exported abroad to meet the needs of the country and some of the countries that have abandoned agriculture are waiting for those exported products. If for some reason agricultural dependent countries do not have good agricultural yield and if they cannot export the crops then what will the countries who are waiting for other countries do. No matter how strong a country's economic system claims to be, its economic status will only be strong if it is an agrarian country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: arallmuus on October 08, 2023, 07:31:07 PM
USA has plenty of oil food labor and scientists
China has plenty of coal food labor and scientists.

They are possibly the top two in the world 🌎.

I'll probably remove the word 'possibly' in that statement because they are both currently top 2 in the world with China trying to persuade their influence all over the asia and US trying to keep their global influence to all of the existing countries

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Its 2023 and we all know its going to be oil. Look at all those oil money funding on football club, thats just pure investment on entertainment and yeah they got money on that but they could have put it on somewhere else so that kinda tells you they got alot to spend on those non trivial matters like entertainment. I think for the next 50 years, all country that could produce their own energy in this case oil would be having alot of impact on the global economic


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cabron on October 08, 2023, 07:57:11 PM
USA has plenty of oil food labor and scientists
China has plenty of coal food labor and scientists.

They are possibly the top two in the world 🌎.

I'll probably remove the word 'possibly' in that statement because they are both currently top 2 in the world with China trying to persuade their influence all over the asia and US trying to keep their global influence to all of the existing countries

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Its 2023 and we all know its going to be oil. Look at all those oil money funding on football club, thats just pure investment on entertainment and yeah they got money on that but they could have put it on somewhere else so that kinda tells you they got alot to spend on those non trivial matters like entertainment. I think for the next 50 years, all country that could produce their own energy in this case oil would be having alot of impact on the global economic

And then we wanna suppress oil-rich countries by making all people use the EVs. Making natural gas illegal at some point. These are also one of the reasons why OPEC is supporting Russia and China.

China will not give up that vast South China Sea for they know there is gas under it. They even took pieces of contested islands in that region and built a military facility controlling airspace. Oil is very important and food security can come from other countries as allies are willing to export agricultural products.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Vispilio on October 08, 2023, 08:24:02 PM
A strange comparison, oil is a source of energy, whereas agriculture covers the entire range of farming and raising livestock.

Oil traditionally has been in the center stage of geostrategic competition between sovereign states, but there is no single country on Earth which has invested overwhelmingly in oil production to the exclusion of agriculture (unless they are stuck in the desert and don't have much option for farming).

In that sense, we can say agriculture is more essential, while oil, derived from a limited supply of fossils, and concentrated in some of the most troublesome regions in the world, is a more strategic commodity.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bhadz on October 08, 2023, 08:38:48 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
This is correct. The whole agriculture industry needs to have oil for them to operate. Well, you can plant and simply harvest them in time without machinery but it will take time until all of them have been harvested. Fields are not gardens where it's like a personal area to just plant those crops or vegetables that you want to have and add to it that farms are also part of it. There's so much work in the agricultural sector where you'll be ending a lot of energy and that's why oil there is very much essential.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mate2237 on October 08, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
Advance countries are not using agricultural product from the farm or field but they are generating the products from the laboratory. Rice, eggs, cassava, chicken, rice and other agricultural product are now produce from the lab so the oil is much more important than the agricultural products because they can us the agricultural products can be provided through the oil products.

Op the oil mineral resources can be use to develop a country very well.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on October 08, 2023, 10:16:30 PM
Agriculture is bigger with an oil in my opinion. Why I say this is because from agricultural produce you can get biogas that can be used to power machineries, power plants just as oil or fossil fuel would. And with the advent of several types of renewable energy available the world would soon move away from fossil fuel or oil meaning that we can actually do without oil but we cannot do without agricultural that gives us food. Therefore we can do without oil as it has several substitute but we cannot do without agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bayu7adi on October 08, 2023, 11:05:52 PM
Oil is a non-renewable resource and will inevitably become a limited commodity. It indeed plays a vital role in various sectors, including transportation, defense, manufacturing, and more. If oil reserves were to run out, its price would skyrocket, forcing everyone to seek alternatives to power machinery.

Agriculture, on the other hand, stands as the most crucial sector within a nation. It holds the power to supply essential sustenance to the entire population, ensuring sufficient nutrition for all. We all require rice and vegetables to survive, and this is more fundamental than oil.

I am inclined to agree that agriculture holds a more pivotal role than oil (in a peaceful world scenario) because food serves as the primary foundation of every life. In times of global conflict, it is oil that takes center stage.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: usekevin on October 08, 2023, 11:47:43 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Agriculture was the most important one in our day to day life.Even through we most of the people earning money from the service sector,food is most essential one for the human to survive.Many dessert based countries was started to agriculture,in some countries government doing agriculture in the ship.If the country was blessed with the oil resource,for the food they spend more on food material imports.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Oasisman on October 09, 2023, 12:51:31 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I don't understand why there is a competition between these two when each country's economic state are based on these 2 important commodities.
If a country cannot produce enough oil, but is rich with all 4 sectors of agriculture, it is automatically expected that the government would put enough funds to develop and produce more oil in their country. Als goes the other way around. Look at Dubai, they are one of the countries who are blessed with oil, but has difficult environment for agriculture but they still able to manage it because these are both important.
So, I don't think there will be a competition between these 2, the government will lay more fund on either of these if completely necessary.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: harapan on October 09, 2023, 11:31:57 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Both are big deals!!
 We may underestimate the advantage of both of them in raising the economic strength but we fail to do so.
Normally a said country is rich and blessed having both the agricultural sector and oil in  circulation but we fail as a country by not making sure both are active,we only resent on one.

In the days of our fore fathers,their dependent on agricultural was on a high esteem and they have excelled in it but since the discovery the oil in the land,agriculture was abandoned and the oil was the only thing they can talk more of which have made it looked like the agricultural sector wasn't doing much better.

Although the existence of the oil has made the work more easier and faster in the aspect of tilling and so on where the oil is required for farming but they have all ignored that most times and centered their workforce for oil rather than making both of them work hand in hand.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Razmirraz on October 09, 2023, 12:43:19 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
In increasingly modern life, oil has become a necessity for farmers to support their economy. Almost everything involved in agriculture uses machines. When you clear land, of course you use a grass cutter whose engine consumes oil, you use a tractor to work the land and some farmers in developed countries use machines designed like mini helicopters for spraying. It doesn't stop there, when harvesting you also use machines.

I can never imagine what would happen to farmers if the world's oil supplies ran out, they would have to return to the era of using manual tools to work the land until they harvested the crops. Agricultural products are really needed by the community, but without oil, the community's economic circulation will be hampered.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Baki202 on October 09, 2023, 01:31:41 PM
Today agriculture is highly dependent on oil so I think agriculture vs oil, both are needed for the economic power of a country. Modern agriculture is now dependent on oil, modern machines like power tiller pumps need oil to run.  But not all countries are oil rich and all countries are agriculture dependent, only some countries are non-agricultural.  Only few countries can supply oil such as Middle East countries like United Arab Emirates.It is true that countries overly dependent on oil resources may face economic challenges.If we look at the countries that are rich in oil, that countries prospered very quickly.
True, both agriculture and oil are essential for human survival people must eat, and cars must move but one is more valuable than the other because it cannot exist without it. However, once there is no money to purchase oil, a person may choose to forgo using a vehicle for a while. If it's about the economy, many nations have made large sums of money from oil, and it has over time become a strength for some nations. Oil has been used by the United Arab Emirates to establish their nation, and it continues to be a major factor in our daily lives.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: poodle63 on October 09, 2023, 03:01:47 PM
Agriculture is bigger with an oil in my opinion. Why I say this is because from agricultural produce you can get biogas that can be used to power machineries, power plants just as oil or fossil fuel would. And with the advent of several types of renewable energy available the world would soon move away from fossil fuel or oil meaning that we can actually do without oil but we cannot do without agricultural that gives us food. Therefore we can do without oil as it has several substitute but we cannot do without agriculture.
its true that renewable energy is there but I think its not sufficient enough, there's reason why most of cars right now still using oil, much more in industry of transporting because its just more simple and also efficient though the newest electric cars has shown to be more efficient and inexpensive but still its hard replacing so much equipments all at once.
but I think we are too early to judge the use of oil when new technology like electric cars are appearing because its still on its early stage.
i think in maybe few years we could see whether electric cars truly could be a replacement and move towards renewable energy or just a fad, after all even electric cars right now powered by electricity coming from coal.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Crypto Library on October 09, 2023, 03:56:23 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Here my opinion would be that as per present time oil is a bigger strength than agriculture for the development of a country.  Because all of the agricultural products that are currently in use, from fertilizers to all types of improvement technologies, require oil to operate. We are now in a situation where if the oil supply is not adequate, not only agricultural but also many other sectors will be faced with many obstructions.
The points I mentioned above are applicable to the current situation. But there is no guarantee that the role or necessity of oil will remain the same in the future as many environmentally friendly technologies are currently being developed to reduce dependency on oil. Agriculture is one thing that will remain forever because agriculture is the main source of human survival.  That's why you can see that many countries in the Middle East that are on the top list in oil production are also undertaking various projects to increase soil fertility in their countries. Because if any kind of big pandemic has to face people again, people can save their lives without oil but cannot live without food.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: HONDACD125 on October 09, 2023, 05:10:19 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Oil plays a very important role in the economy of any country. Just as Arab countries have oil resources, although there is nothing in the agricultural sector, their entire agriculture depends on other countries, but their economy is very strong because of oil. Therefore, they can easily import anything from any country in the world. Given the power of oil, we cannot say that the agriculture sector should be neglected. In terms of food, if a country is self-sufficient rather than dependent on another country, it should be considered an economic power.

Be it war, political differences or global sanctions, the importance of agriculture increases even more. If the agricultural sector is strong, it will face less problems. Both oil and agriculture are essential to a strong economy, and both are important in their own place, but if times get tough, I think agriculture can be more useful in economic power.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Miles2006 on October 09, 2023, 05:37:36 PM
From my paspective both Agriculture and oil is needed in our economy growth,
Agriculture has been supportive in our today economy, because in our daily live we make use of agriculture product. When it comes to the production of medicine agriculture is needed because drugs are produce from planting and chemical materials, the rearing of meat, fish, the planting of foods such as yam, cassava, everything is just related to agriculture.
When it comes to oil, oil is needed for the production of fuel, kerosene, and countries make billions through the help of trading oil, for example my country remain dependent on oil revenue.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Issa56 on October 09, 2023, 06:04:53 PM
Both are important but i think oil is way important. You can grow basic food almost anywhere. Potatoes for example, they grow very fast and easy and we consume them every day. There are also greenhouse products. This tech lets you grow anything anywhere. Let’s just say, if you invest enough time and money, you can grow your own food but if you don’t have oil, you can‘t grow it no matter how hard you try. You can only buy it from somebody else. Oil and gas are the most important energy sources. Without them the civilization would collapse.

Tldr; oil > agri
One is vastly overrated, especially oil, and everything depends on timing. In fact, the era of oil is already slowly coming to an end because, if you look at technology, the cars they are making now are electrical, and now even generators and a lot of other things rely on battery and solar power. People no longer rely on generators to provide electricity. It appears that you enjoy potatoes, which is crucial because a man needs to eat. Food is also a requirement. In my opinion, food cannot be compared to oil in terms of importance since oil concerns the economy and food concerns the stomach. The examples of the green home you provided demonstrate how important food is and will continue to be.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: jaberwock on October 09, 2023, 07:16:16 PM
Based on consideration, both are very important, but if you are going to choose which of them will increase the income of the country, I will go for agriculture because agriculture increases the income of the country faster than oil. If you have good mechanisms and strategies for agriculture, I bet you will prosper. In an instant, China, Brazil, the United States, India, and many of them produce agricultural products a lot and feed a large number of people in the country, but I am not terminating oil. I have more interest in agriculture than oil.
You first said that both are important? Then better if you can stick with it. If we can have both for a better improvement of our country then why only have one? It's just that oil is natural in some countries. They can get lots of supplies of it effortlessly and then others are rich in agriculture. I think it also depend on the nature of their country. Agriculture is best on some less developed areas and also if the weather are mostly raining. It can also work if there is a balance rain and sunny weather. Whichever we have, we will need to have a good strategy and mechanism so that we can improve our production more and that means more income for us.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: KingsDen on October 09, 2023, 07:41:03 PM
From my paspective both Agriculture and oil is needed in our economy growth,
Agriculture has been supportive in our today economy, because in our daily live we make use of agriculture product. When it comes to the production of medicine agriculture is needed because drugs are produce from planting and chemical materials, the rearing of meat, fish, the planting of foods such as yam, cassava, everything is just related to agriculture.
When it comes to oil, oil is needed for the production of fuel, kerosene, and countries make billions through the help of trading oil, for example my country remain dependent on oil revenue.

A country can be blessed with more than one source of sustenance or external revenue but there should be a major that the country is known for. What OP discussed is a case study of Nigeria as a country. The country former has agriculture as it's major source of income not until oil was discovered and Agriculture outrightly abandoned. It was during the regime of former president Mohammadu Bihari that the idea of Agriculture was revamped.
Both oil and Agriculture is cool but I have a very high inclination to agriculture because of its ability to give food and as well as money.
But then every country needs to strike a balance on its sources of income in order not to be over dependent on one.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Y3shot on October 09, 2023, 08:16:29 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
So true,  crude oil has played very vital role in the agricultural sector. Some of the fertilisers used for plant are derived from from petrochemical substance. Crude oil has played very important role in the modern agricultural system because most of the machines and tractors are being operated by oil. Both agriculture and oil are very important to nation economy,  the both should be taking serious. Their are countries that only depend on crude oil and the economy is doing very well.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: milewilda on October 09, 2023, 08:41:04 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Totally having that benefit basing on how oil is really that significant with those common farm operations even on the slightest things like on which you have said that do talks about fertilizers.
Why would really be needing to have that kind of Versus thing which it doesnt really have no sense because they do really benefit or having that significant usage or really having that contribution.If it wasnt
really been that utilize then we would really be seeing that less production and having that less efficiency and this is why it doesnt make sense on thinking up this way.
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oils are mostly be found or produced on dessert areas such as on middle east or with those common places on which vegetation cant be possible.This is why if they do able to take advantage of those producing oils
then it would really be that normal that they would really be utilizing it and would really be going to buy on what they do they need. Not really that much needing
that crucial thinking but rather common sense thing would really be enough on where they should really be focusing into.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 09, 2023, 11:25:51 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
So true,  crude oil has played very vital role in the agricultural sector. Some of the fertilisers used for plant are derived from from petrochemical substance. Crude oil has played very important role in the modern agricultural system because most of the machines and tractors are being operated by oil. Both agriculture and oil are very important to nation economy,  the both should be taking serious. Their are countries that only depend on crude oil and the economy is doing very well.

As a result, agriculture and oil should not be confused, as they are both vital to human survival. Perhaps the title in this section is incorrect; perhaps the Op should have done "Benefits to be Gained from Agriculture and Oil." We will not judge one another's looks.

Even I cannot declare that agriculture or oil are superior because they are both essential and cannot exist without the other. Why can you convince us that agriculture and oil are unnecessary? Nobody can claim that one of them is insignificant. Instead, they are both beneficial. That's all I have to say.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: xSkylarx on October 10, 2023, 12:53:30 AM
Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases. As you can see right now because of the war in Russia and Ukraine the price of oil has increased which has also led to an increase in the price of all foods because after harvesting them they will need to be transported and it uses for oil. So both are needed for economic strength.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DaNNy001 on October 10, 2023, 01:35:14 AM
Based on consideration, both are very important, but if you are going to choose which of them will increase the income of the country, I will go for agriculture because agriculture increases the income of the country faster than oil. If you have good mechanisms and strategies for agriculture, I bet you will prosper. In an instant, China, Brazil, the United States, India, and many of them produce agricultural products a lot and feed a large number of people in the country, but I am not terminating oil. I have more interest in agriculture than oil.
You first said that both are important? Then better if you can stick with it. If we can have both for a better improvement of our country then why only have one? It's just that oil is natural in some countries. They can get lots of supplies of it effortlessly and then others are rich in agriculture. I think it also depend on the nature of their country. Agriculture is best on some less developed areas and also if the weather are mostly raining. It can also work if there is a balance rain and sunny weather. Whichever we have, we will need to have a good strategy and mechanism so that we can improve our production more and that means more income for us.
I think in my country the two things are of vital importants although before now the focus was more on agriculture but since the discovery of oil, the agriculture sector has suffered a little downturn in terms of production and value because the government seem to value the OIL money than agriculture forgetting that agriculture if well planned and invested can fetch huge some of cash just as the way the OIL sector is doing.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slapper on October 10, 2023, 03:17:46 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Here my opinion would be that as per present time oil is a bigger strength than agriculture for the development of a country.  Because all of the agricultural products that are currently in use, from fertilizers to all types of improvement technologies, require oil to operate. We are now in a situation where if the oil supply is not adequate, not only agricultural but also many other sectors will be faced with many obstructions.
The points I mentioned above are applicable to the current situation. But there is no guarantee that the role or necessity of oil will remain the same in the future as many environmentally friendly technologies are currently being developed to reduce dependency on oil. Agriculture is one thing that will remain forever because agriculture is the main source of human survival.  That's why you can see that many countries in the Middle East that are on the top list in oil production are also undertaking various projects to increase soil fertility in their countries. Because if any kind of big pandemic has to face people again, people can save their lives without oil but cannot live without food.
It's undeniable that, at this moment, many sectors, including agriculture, are heavily reliant on oil. The machinery, the processes, the very essence of modern agriculture seems to be intertwined with oil. But here's a question to ponder: If oil is so integral now, what happens when its role diminishes in the face of sustainable technologies?

The shift towards environmentally friendly technologies is not just a possibility; it's an impending reality. And agriculture? It's the eternal constant. The very essence of our survival. It's no wonder that nations rich in oil are looking into enhancing soil fertility. Because, when push comes to shove, can we eat oil? Or is the sustenance provided by agriculture irreplaceable? It's a question worth reflecting upon, don't you think?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Woodie on October 10, 2023, 12:06:05 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
Before the boom of the oil market, prices per barrel were at their lowest...but because of external factors such as the Russia Ukraine war which can be considered as an artificial factor that caused prices to spike up and don't look like will be returning back to normal anytime soon because demand has pulled price up unless over supply happens to counter demand, then it can drop.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
I think very few oil rich countries actually have both , and in cases of needing food ( agriculture output) trade makes it easy for any country to get what they want if they have something trade... So this basically shows each resource is equally important.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil might be the big money deal but both play a crucial role especially knowing that very few countries have both of these resources and rely on other countries to obtain via trade and to contribute to a countries economic standing and revenue collection.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Adbitco on October 10, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
This is nothing to argue with or deliberate on as we know oil and Agriculture are both good and they are very essential to human life when it comes of development. The developed countries that mostly based in oil production are sometimes do not have good soil texture to cultivate agricultural products and, there are some plants that can never be found there but then those things can be imported to their country. Just as few people already said some country goes in collaboration with their neighboring countries that own a larger land mass for an agricultural production while they actually imports some of the product and they are living Larger and even more than those who has those agricultural resources.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on October 10, 2023, 12:22:34 PM
Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases.

I guess this is the most reasonable answer that makes sense. I saw a similar post on the first page, BTW. Yes, I want to say that I agree with you. Even though old helps run the machines of tractors and harvesters, those machines are part of agriculture as well. A country can increase its production by using the latest technology. In comparison, a country cannot increase the supply of oil. The oil is a natural product. You cannot force them to produce more and more oil according to the demand. So, whenever the demand increases, the oil price increases as well. It applies to almost everything. But a country can increase the production of food if they want.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: uneng on October 10, 2023, 04:50:25 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture, because as far as I know nobody eats oil and no other industry can replace agriculture in order to produce food. So agriculture is going to be an essential industry forever, while the oil one can be replaced by more advanced renewable technologies. It's true oil is still very profitable nowadays, but in some decades I believe the scenario is going to change completely, and those people boasting luxurious lives from oil income will have a hard time finding another source of income to maintain their lifestyles and the economies of their countries running.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: HajiBagi on October 11, 2023, 06:41:18 AM
Although both are important, oil is more crucial because without it, agricultural machinery cannot function. I am aware that in earlier times, people did not use agricultural machinery, but in the modern era, agriculture cannot function without machines, and those machines require oil. I believe that without oil, or let's just say fuel, transportation would not be quick and some people would die before things got to their places. I know that some people will support agriculture because we don't eat oil, but if you sit down and think about it very carefully, you will realise that oil is more important than agriculture these days.

Let's take Nigeria as an example. Since the beginning of this 2023, Nigeria has experienced food shortages, and many complain that food prices are excessive. The economy has changed, and what has changed is oil; where oil was once sold for 250, it is now being sold for 750 now per liter. and oil is the primary factor behind how much everything costs. Agriculture may be significant to some, but without oil, it would be powerless. I think those who support agriculture will recognise that a fuel source like oil or fuel does not depend on anything; people and agriculture are always dependent on it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 11, 2023, 08:29:03 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Yes, we know that Middle Eastern countries have one of the largest sources of income from oil, and the developments that have occurred in Arab countries are fantastic. Meanwhile, there are still many less developed countries that depend on agriculture. Even though both are very important, the development of oil business seems to have a faster impact than Agriculture. And I really agree that nowadays almost everything is done with technology, and machines, even Agriculture, and it all requires oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Cookdata on October 11, 2023, 09:44:33 AM
Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases. As you can see right now because of the war in Russia and Ukraine the price of oil has increased which has also led to an increase in the price of all foods because after harvesting them they will need to be transported and it uses for oil. So both are needed for economic strength.

A tractor is too far distant, there is no area in the agricultural industry that does not require oil, both in post-farming and pre-farming operations. You need transportation to move anything in order to farm and sell, you need planters to help you sow the seeds, you need harvesters to harvest your crops, you need implements and machines to process these produce and products, and keep in mind that agriculture is more than just farming crops, vegetables, and plants; it also includes animal production and husbandry, which requires power to their house, the water system and grinders.

Whatever natural resources nature bestows upon you, if you optimise them and make them marketable and in demand, people will come for you; it is all about strategy, but because fossil oil is abundant, some governments have become too lazy to hunt for alternative sources of revenue for their country. Some countries lack both, they lack agriculture due to desert, infertile land, and dry land with no natural resources, but they are blessed with animals, they may have one of the most demanding animals in the world, which may be in abundance in their region, they can still earn a lot of money from it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: viananda2525 on October 11, 2023, 10:32:25 AM
Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases.

I guess this is the most reasonable answer that makes sense. I saw a similar post on the first page, BTW. Yes, I want to say that I agree with you. Even though old helps run the machines of tractors and harvesters, those machines are part of agriculture as well. A country can increase its production by using the latest technology. In comparison, a country cannot increase the supply of oil. The oil is a natural product. You cannot force them to produce more and more oil according to the demand. So, whenever the demand increases, the oil price increases as well. It applies to almost everything. But a country can increase the production of food if they want.
Oil is the main energy source in the world so that it is currently widely used for industrial, transportation, agricultural and household purposes. Oil is a non-renewable energy source so oil cannot always be a mainstay for the long-term economy. Currently, the agricultural sector is still greatly helped by oil because it can speed up processes in the agricultural cycle.

But agriculture remains an important sector in life and of course the agricultural sector can still be carried out using renewable energy even without using oil. Alternative energy sources such as bioenergy from several types of plants and other energy sources such as solar, wind and wave energy. However, energy production from alternative energy sources is still limited.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slapper on October 11, 2023, 01:03:21 PM
Agriculture and oil are correlated because most agriculture right now uses machines like tractors to harvest their crops and even plant and prepare the land so they are using a lot of oil, so if the oil price increases the price also increases. As you can see right now because of the war in Russia and Ukraine the price of oil has increased which has also led to an increase in the price of all foods because after harvesting them they will need to be transported and it uses for oil. So both are needed for economic strength.

A tractor is too far distant, there is no area in the agricultural industry that does not require oil, both in post-farming and pre-farming operations. You need transportation to move anything in order to farm and sell, you need planters to help you sow the seeds, you need harvesters to harvest your crops, you need implements and machines to process these produce and products, and keep in mind that agriculture is more than just farming crops, vegetables, and plants; it also includes animal production and husbandry, which requires power to their house, the water system and grinders.

Whatever natural resources nature bestows upon you, if you optimise them and make them marketable and in demand, people will come for you; it is all about strategy, but because fossil oil is abundant, some governments have become too lazy to hunt for alternative sources of revenue for their country. Some countries lack both, they lack agriculture due to desert, infertile land, and dry land with no natural resources, but they are blessed with animals, they may have one of the most demanding animals in the world, which may be in abundance in their region, they can still earn a lot of money from it.

It's true that a lot of wealthy people use their connections and resources to set up their children for success. But success isn't it a relative term? Success in the current economy is more than just having money; even assets like Bitcoin are subject to extreme fluctuations. It has to do with comprehension, flexibility, and resilience

Certainly, there can be difficulties when marrying into riches. There is a lot to process in terms of the surroundings, expectations, and social relationships. You're right; balance is essential. Balance, yet, isn't that what we all aim for, money or no money. Balance and understanding are crucial, regardless of the erratic nature of relationships or the turbulent market for bitcoin

Why does wealth inequality cause some marriages to fail? Maybe it's about mutual growth, respect, and understanding rather than money alone. Can a relationship's success be determined solely by money? Or is it a matter of common ideals, objectives, and ambitions?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Alpha Marine on October 11, 2023, 01:38:19 PM
One is vastly overrated, especially oil, and everything depends on timing. The era of oil is already slowly coming to an end because, if you look at technology, the cars they are making now are electrical, and now even generators and a lot of other things rely on battery and solar power. People no longer rely on generators to provide electricity. It appears that you enjoy potatoes, which is crucial because a man needs to eat. Food is also a requirement. In my opinion, food cannot be compared to oil in terms of importance since oil concerns the economy and food concerns the stomach. The examples of the green home you provided demonstrate how important food is and will continue to be.

You're getting it wrong.
As individuals, you can decide not to use any oil products but you have to be very wealthy to achieve that, but you can't decide not to eat that means in this sense, Agriculture> Oil.
The same cannot be said about a country.

I am yet to see countries that became among the richest countries of the world and Agriculture is 70% of their GDP.
There are rich countries where oil contributes to about 70% of their GDP.

It would be wrong to compare both of them as a sector because a country needs both of them to function optimally.
The talk of "oil will soon go extinct" is overrated. I know that one day oil might no longer have that much value but it won't be in this lifetime or the next. It would take 100s of years for that to happen.
What's the percentage of the world right now that can live completely off oil products?

Food is important, but it doesn't generate nearly as much as oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Iroh on October 11, 2023, 06:57:38 PM
Both are invaluable as they’re both needed in our lives.
Agriculture is obviously important as we literally need to eat to live.

Oil, when refined is majorly used today all over the world as different sources of energy. It powers our machinery for production and manufacturing of various goods and also fuels our transport systems for movement of raw materials. Very essential for economic growth and development.

Oil is in my opinion, more of a big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country. Refined oil is needed and being used all over the world as different energy sources but that valuable resource isn’t found just anywhere.
We all need energy and countries naturally having these energy sources would be highly sought after. Hence economic growth and development.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: milewilda on October 11, 2023, 07:07:20 PM
One is vastly overrated, especially oil, and everything depends on timing. The era of oil is already slowly coming to an end because, if you look at technology, the cars they are making now are electrical, and now even generators and a lot of other things rely on battery and solar power. People no longer rely on generators to provide electricity. It appears that you enjoy potatoes, which is crucial because a man needs to eat. Food is also a requirement. In my opinion, food cannot be compared to oil in terms of importance since oil concerns the economy and food concerns the stomach. The examples of the green home you provided demonstrate how important food is and will continue to be.

You're getting it wrong.
As individuals, you can decide not to use any oil products but you have to be very wealthy to achieve that, but you can't decide not to eat that means in this sense, Agriculture> Oil.
The same cannot be said about a country.

I am yet to see countries that became among the richest countries of the world and Agriculture is 70% of their GDP.
There are rich countries where oil contributes to about 70% of their GDP.

It would be wrong to compare both of them as a sector because a country needs both of them to function optimally.
The talk of "oil will soon go extinct" is overrated. I know that one day oil might no longer have that much value but it won't be in this lifetime or the next. It would take 100s of years for that to happen.
What's the percentage of the world right now that can live completely off oil products?

Food is important, but it doesn't generate nearly as much as oil.
There's no way that oil would really be losing its relevance when it comes to usage on which considering that we just dont talk about cars consumptions but also in other things which are really that depending on oil for it to run or to operate on which lots of industries is really that making use just to make it work or would really be having that operation and without oil or other correlated things to it then it would really be that a huge loss
considering that it cant be possible on running it out. Therefore, it would really be ending up on having that huge effect when we do speak about its abscence and in speaking about such stuff then why would really be that people would really be loving on making some comparison about both things which we do know that they are really that both crucial in existence and do really have that mutual benefit to each other or something that it does exist just because with the help of other one.? There are really indeed things which there's no point on trying to have those comparison or talking about on who is much better.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DrBeer on October 11, 2023, 10:16:01 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?


The problem is that having oil does not guarantee a high level of a country's economy. Just like huge agricultural lands. It all depends on how the country will manage these resources. Some can plunder (kleptocracy/corruption), others can provide for their citizens and invest in alternative and promising areas. It is possible to build primitive agriculture, and it is possible to build high-tech agriculture, which will give an order of magnitude more income. Everything depends only on what the result of the economic direction is used for and how it is used. You can also choose other directions - high technology, medicine,.... The world has a huge market of consumers, and not only of raw materials.
The only nuance is that perhaps the age of fossil resources is coming to an end..... And we should prepare for it already... yesterday :)


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Uruhara on October 11, 2023, 10:39:00 PM
Both are invaluable as they’re both needed in our lives.
Agriculture is obviously important as we literally need to eat to live.

Oil, when refined is majorly used today all over the world as different sources of energy. It powers our machinery for production and manufacturing of various goods and also fuels our transport systems for movement of raw materials. Very essential for economic growth and development.

Oil is in my opinion, more of a big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country. Refined oil is needed and being used all over the world as different energy sources but that valuable resource isn’t found just anywhere.
We all need energy and countries naturally having these energy sources would be highly sought after. Hence economic growth and development.

Oil has indeed become closely ingrained in our lives. So it is very difficult for us to get rid of dependence on oil. So it is not surprising that oil also plays an important role in our economic order, where its impact is currently the most influential. Rising oil prices can even cause inflation to occur quickly because almost all sectors currently use energy from processing petroleum or fossil fuels. But comparing Agriculture and Oil I think these two things have the same strength. For example, if wheat farmers suddenly stop selling their agricultural products. then we will see a quite big shock in the economy. Because of the remaining wheat on the market, the price will really increase like crazy. And all foods and products that contain the staple ingredient wheat will also experience the same high increase. So that oil and agriculture are both equally important forces. And I personally consider agriculture more important in our lives.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 11, 2023, 10:59:18 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I don't think I should place one so high above another, the reason being that a country needs both, but unfortunately, there are countries that don't even have oil, and they rely on other countries for this oil or refined product. Currently, the agricultural systems of the old days are not the same as they are today; now there are machines that are making agricultural activities easier for farmers, and those upgraded means of improving agricultural systems require the use of oil-refined products to function, just like in the first commenter statement. In that case, it's not favorable to a country that just has one of the two. If a country only has oil, they will still sell their oil to other countries that need it, and they will still use the money realized to meet the needs of citizens in the market. If a country only has agricultural opportunities, they will also need to get the oil products of other countries to use on their farming equipment and machines.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Iroh on October 11, 2023, 11:39:36 PM
Oil has indeed become closely ingrained in our lives. So it is very difficult for us to get rid of dependence on oil. So it is not surprising that oil also plays an important role in our economic order, where its impact is currently the most influential. Rising oil prices can even cause inflation to occur quickly because almost all sectors currently use energy from processing petroleum or fossil fuels. But comparing Agriculture and Oil I think these two things have the same strength. For example, if wheat farmers suddenly stop selling their agricultural products. then we will see a quite big shock in the economy. Because of the remaining wheat on the market, the price will really increase like crazy. And all foods and products that contain the staple ingredient wheat will also experience the same high increase. So that oil and agriculture are both equally important forces. And I personally consider agriculture more important in our lives.

We’ve been for too long relying on oil as the main source for energy and cause of our over reliance, a decrease in supply would always have dire implications for a lot of countries, some more than most.

I think oil is always in demand by every nation to satisfy the energy demands of the people and  could provide a lot more revenue for a country and further strengthen its economic growth. Not trying to downplay the importance of agriculture as it’s equally important.
Keeping in mind how energy is needed by everyone everywhere, oil deposits are not found everywhere hence the high worth and value. Most countries could plan to commercially grow agricultural produce but not every country has large oil deposits that could be enough for personal consumption and to sell and make profits.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on October 11, 2023, 11:59:47 PM
Even more so then production, the supply and retail of the food goods relies on oil for transportation.  So the two commodities are quite heavily related in a modern economy because distribution and marketing are quite vital to the successful best price found for those goods.    Both would be correct but I had only one guess, I would say oil is quite vital and cannot be done without.

China and India lacking oil is a substantial point of note, securing adequate route of supply for the oil influences their entire country.   I think part of why China is so aggressive in the South China sea outside of its recognized borders is to do with tankers supply oil through those potential routes, hence military bases on tiny islands etc.    India is trading with Russia for its oil in the middle of its war of aggression though the currency transfer is limited.

If we're mentioning Agriculture I'd want to mention fertilizer and any technology which can promote crop yield, I believe this becomes more valuable over the next twenty years.   Every country can grow and harvest crops to some extent, quite a few countries lack a good natural supply of oil only through trading.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: odunybiz on October 13, 2023, 12:29:32 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
You are right but I think is trying to ask for which one can a country depends on to sustain it's economy. I think the OP is from Nigeria. Our government based our economic growth on oil neglecting agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Xampeuu on October 13, 2023, 03:56:08 AM
Oil has indeed become closely ingrained in our lives. So it is very difficult for us to get rid of dependence on oil. So it is not surprising that oil also plays an important role in our economic order, where its impact is currently the most influential. Rising oil prices can even cause inflation to occur quickly because almost all sectors currently use energy from processing petroleum or fossil fuels. But comparing Agriculture and Oil I think these two things have the same strength. For example, if wheat farmers suddenly stop selling their agricultural products. then we will see a quite big shock in the economy. Because of the remaining wheat on the market, the price will really increase like crazy. And all foods and products that contain the staple ingredient wheat will also experience the same high increase. So that oil and agriculture are both equally important forces. And I personally consider agriculture more important in our lives.

We’ve been for too long relying on oil as the main source for energy and cause of our over reliance, a decrease in supply would always have dire implications for a lot of countries, some more than most.

I think oil is always in demand by every nation to satisfy the energy demands of the people and  could provide a lot more revenue for a country and further strengthen its economic growth. Not trying to downplay the importance of agriculture as it’s equally important.
Keeping in mind how energy is needed by everyone everywhere, oil deposits are not found everywhere hence the high worth and value. Most countries could plan to commercially grow agricultural produce but not every country has large oil deposits that could be enough for personal consumption and to sell and make profits.
Oil is a vital means for the movement of a country's economy, we know how rich oil producing countries are, it is even its main commodity, such as Middle Eastern countries, especially now that everything is related to machines that require oil as a driving force. However, on the one hand, agriculture is also the main commodity that must be met, because everyone needs food, in an era like today, both are very much needed by humans, however, not many young people are interested in the agricultural sector, even though it is a commodity that is definitely needed.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bd officer on October 13, 2023, 04:50:50 AM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Many people have given many opinions, I also apply some opinions. Agriculture is certainly more important in terms of economic power, but oil is also needed. Both oil and agriculture are necessary for economic development. Without oil, however, agricultural production would be much more laborious and costly. In ancient times, people had to work hard to plough, and to bring crops home. But nowadays, people can easily do agricultural work through oil-driven agricultural machinery. Don't know how true it is I don't know exactly, I heard from our teacher while studying that the earth will run out of oil at some point. Countries that have become rich because of oil, if the world runs out of oil, that country will not be able to develop so much. But a country that is developing depending on agriculture will always have economic development.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Rabata on October 13, 2023, 06:21:32 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
One of the most important basic human needs is food which comes through agriculture. On the other hand, oil is a resource through which people get various benefits. We cannot ignore either any one because both are essential to us. Many of us may think that food is necessary for survival but for farming you have to take the help of  oil powered machine. Both come from nature. Most of the world's countries do not have oil fields but most of them have more or less agricultural production. Although the importance of agriculture is high, it is possible to produce it in different regions of the world, on the other hand, every one can not produce oil. As a result, oil prices are rising and will continue to do so.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: retreat on October 13, 2023, 06:29:05 AM
Agriculture and oil are two things that are equally important for a country. Oil is needed to move vehicles, so if a country is too dependent on oil imports, the price of oil in their country will rise and this can have an impact on many other sectors and it is also at risk if there is war or global economic fluctuations. And agriculture is needed to meet people's needs for rice, vegetables, etc. If the country is too dependent on agricultural imports, it will increase food prices in the country and be at risk if war occurs. So both are very important for a country, therefore, if a country has these two resources, it should be able to maximize its management, so that it will be able to meet/reduce dependence on imports from other countries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Antotena on October 13, 2023, 07:31:47 AM
Both are invaluable as they’re both needed in our lives.
Agriculture is obviously important as we literally need to eat to live.

From OP perspective, I think it is convincing to say that an oily rich countries see development than countries that are Agricultural based, we can deny that, they are incline to do more infrastructure and development than countries that get revenue from agriculture foods, the oil rich countries have proven that they are wealthy and they carry a lot of weight with rich people.

If oil country is properly manage, they can as well do better in agriculture through the money they from revenues in oil to buy latest machines and equipment to do a better mechanize farming than people that are even more focus only on agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: barisbilgili on October 13, 2023, 10:02:25 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
One of the most important basic human needs is food which comes through agriculture. On the other hand, oil is a resource through which people get various benefits. We cannot ignore either any one because both are essential to us. Many of us may think that food is necessary for survival but for farming you have to take the help of  oil powered machine. Both come from nature. Most of the world's countries do not have oil fields but most of them have more or less agricultural production. Although the importance of agriculture is high, it is possible to produce it in different regions of the world, on the other hand, every one can not produce oil. As a result, oil prices are rising and will continue to do so.
The agricultural sector currently uses a lot of machines that use oil fuel, unlike in the past, farmers worked on their land using their own energy and in the current era of agricultural development, many agricultural sectors use oil-fueled machines, of course this will make it easier for people to farm and produce food needs. easily. It is true that not all countries can produce oil and make the price continue to increase, but this certainly has its limitations, unlike agriculture, if there are still farmers and land that can be cultivated then food needs will still be met for the community.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: CageMabok on October 13, 2023, 10:55:57 AM
Oil is a vital means for the movement of a country's economy, we know how rich oil producing countries are, it is even its main commodity, such as Middle Eastern countries, especially now that everything is related to machines that require oil as a driving force. However, on the one hand, agriculture is also the main commodity that must be met, because everyone needs food, in an era like today, both are very much needed by humans, however, not many young people are interested in the agricultural sector, even though it is a commodity that is definitely needed.

Not all of the young generation in several countries are not interested in the agricultural sector, because in fact the young generation also has to adapt to the environment and also has to develop more in managing the agricultural sector. Now the agricultural sector also requires several machines to make it easier to carry out work, both when harvesting agricultural products and when lowering seeds into agricultural land. So that is what makes most of the younger generation not very interested in the agricultural sector because not all of them can afford to have machines that are quite sophisticated for the agricultural sector.

Although all of the younger generation can still do every job in the agricultural sector in the old way which is more tiring for them because it really demands physical strength and in general everyone's physical strength will always decrease when they get older. Maybe that's why most of the younger generation are not very interested in the agricultural sector, apart from that they are also starting to analyze the results obtained through the agricultural sector with the results obtained from oil sources. In general, the results must be very different and when the differences can be very striking, it is not surprising that the younger generation prefers oil sources to the agricultural sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Winterfrost on October 13, 2023, 11:17:58 AM
Any production point is good for the strength in the economy of a country, as both work hand in hands for mass production of good and services consumption.
Well some would say one is more important and one is some less. There is information out there how much each of these production sectors yields. I have a keen interest for farming. Its quite easy to start, once you have a desired location you get your seeds and start growing for mass production but oil is crazy. It has no limits. The returns gotten from the oil industry is one that could change the finance capacity of a country. Statistically the Oil sectors yield enough revenue to the country.

If i want to compare both in terms of working in this sectors. I would say overall the Oil industry is still very high paying relative to the Agriculture industries. Working in any agricultural firm is just as more of hard work with probably less pay.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Truthlovecoins on October 13, 2023, 11:21:26 AM
Oil is important but agriculture is a compulsory solution to world hunger and poverty rate. Agriculture provides the main needs of shelter, clothing, food, income and employment to those in the sector and to a whole nation, but oil may only be used in its diverse forms of pms, diesel, kerosene for occasional purposes even though it provides income and employment as well.

I know oil has helped many countries improve their nGDP after export or import and resales of the product. It has been the more invested in because of the huge profit that it provides in the instant as compared to agriculture that may require some processes longer or more tedious than the already established refining of oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: YOSHIE on October 13, 2023, 03:20:33 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil and agriculture for me are two different understandings, you could say the differences are very different, like salt water and fresh water.

If the country is not volatile, of course oil is the main thing for that country from an economic perspective, even though the country has no agricultural elements at all, for example: Qatar.

But the story is different in countries hit by war, oil is useless, the most useful thing is agriculture, with agriculture the food supply for the people is sufficient, even though aid supplies are not coming in, at least with agriculture people can survive, of course economic war countries are no story.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 13, 2023, 03:47:19 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Very good point and observation, but lets not  forget that man can still do without oil, but cant do without food. take your mind back to the old days when humans knew not what oil was, and neither knew how to process it, and neither have the necessary machines to process the oil, human still tilled the ground, cultivated and harvested with their hands without the need for machines that are powered by oils.

Even today, in some part of the world, even here in Nigeria, our old forks who do not own machines , and can not afford to hire one, still till the ground with their hand by their human strength, they cultivate, harvest their farm product with their hands without the need for machines.

This is why i say that, as much as machines through oil have played a very important role in helping Agriculture become big, Agriculture is still more important to human survival than oil will ever be, without food, every human will die of hunger, leaving behind the supposed oil we all consider to be the most valuable.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: dothebeats on October 13, 2023, 04:09:05 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Very good point and observation, but lets not  forget that man can still do without oil, but cant do without food. take your mind back to the old days when humans knew not what oil was, and neither knew how to process it, and neither have the necessary machines to process the oil, human still tilled the ground, cultivated and harvested with their hands without the need for machines that are powered by oils.

Even today, in some part of the world, even here in Nigeria, our old forks who do not own machines , and can not afford to hire one, still till the ground with their hand by their human strength, they cultivate, harvest their farm product with their hands without the need for machines.

This is why i say that, as much as machines through oil have played a very important role in helping Agriculture become big, Agriculture is still more important to human survival than oil will ever be, without food, every human will die of hunger, leaving behind the supposed oil we all consider to be the most valuable.
Contradicting you with your point, let me remind you that your example is set over years ago and a lot of changes have already happened since then including the number population that is in constant need of food. Oil helps farmers and food productions to process everything faster to answer to the constant demands for food supply. Hence, if we're going with your narrative, it will be close to impossible to cater to the unimaginable demand of food supply from billions of people without oil making it easier as it powers tools and supplies that a lot of farmers and food productions rely on. Moreover, isn't the very reason why oil and power tillers or tractors are adapted by many farmers due to the convenience it brings them to ensure that the demands are being met? I remember farmers even having a hard time saving up just to afford these tools and machines to help them with their work as it is becoming impossible for them to handle all the demands for food and the problem with lack of food supply.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: EluguHcman on October 13, 2023, 05:44:22 PM
As long as I know, Agriculture is a global muscle economic booster because all organisms seeks lives before pleasures of treasures.
No one sustains live without food consumption but life can still be sustained without the resource of oil production rather better to say technology wouldn't has been advanced to as today's.

Agriculture as a sector of consumable produces (food) is a naturally designed to sustain lives that occupies the earth while oil is just a resources for equipments production.

Talking about negligence towards Agriculture is a capital false because technology has been created to enhance agriculture and to minimize manpowers activities such as
tractor, plough, harrows, cultivators, ridgers, planter, harvesters, shellers, dryer, sprayer, and incubators.
And provisions for healthy being of plants are being made such as pest control chemicals and fertilizers.

Thousands and millions of ideas towards Agricultural sectors is of no comparison than that of oil as you thought at OP. If you think that there is no weapon as dangerous as the nuclear weapons, you should remember same weapons are manufactured my human and don't underestimate lower sizes but seek deep to its potentials.

Agriculture is life and oil is a technology  substance which the glob seeks lives before technological products.

So with Agriculture as a prior to sustain lives in general I hope to have convinced you that Agriculture Sector has every tendencies to boosten a global economy than oil sector.

 


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: sana54210 on October 13, 2023, 06:32:24 PM
It's true that a lot of wealthy people use their connections and resources to set up their children for success. But success isn't it a relative term? Success in the current economy is more than just having money; even assets like Bitcoin are subject to extreme fluctuations. It has to do with comprehension, flexibility, and resilience

Certainly, there can be difficulties when marrying into riches. There is a lot to process in terms of the surroundings, expectations, and social relationships. You're right; balance is essential. Balance, yet, isn't that what we all aim for, money or no money. Balance and understanding are crucial, regardless of the erratic nature of relationships or the turbulent market for bitcoin

Why does wealth inequality cause some marriages to fail? Maybe it's about mutual growth, respect, and understanding rather than money alone. Can a relationship's success be determined solely by money? Or is it a matter of common ideals, objectives, and ambitions?
I would say that it's based on how react to it. Lets say that one side is poor and one side is very wealthy and they fall in love and they get married. If the poor reacts to money differently than the rich, it will definitely cause a lot of problems.

This doesn't mean they can't spend it, if the rich likes to spend it then poor could become rich and spend it too, if the rich doesn't spend it and frugal, then the poor has to be frugal too. I am sorry but the rich has to be the one that drives this, otherwise it doesn't make sense. That person become the rich person somehow and they know how they got rich, or at least their parents end up being rich, so that means that we need to be something that would be a lot better.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: serveria.com on October 13, 2023, 11:05:31 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

I guess oil as agriculture (and also many other industries) depends on oil but oil doesn't depend on agriculture. Oil has great liquidity - there's high demand globally and you can sell it easily. 


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Vaskiy on October 13, 2023, 11:40:14 PM
Agriculture and oil are important for the economy. When we talk of the importance, agriculture is more important than oil and the related industry. Most countries lack infrastructure for agriculture, grown countries have better infrastructure. The combined GDP of the oil industry along with other forms of energy seems to be similar as that of the GDP of agriculture.

The oil price directly hits the agricultural industry. Cultivation isn't happening within particular region and distributed. The transportation and other means of expenses increase. This makes the food turn expensive and these days there are crude oil based fertilizers for the mass production. In some means both agriculture and oil have got connect and both are mutually needed.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on October 13, 2023, 11:44:56 PM
Ironic point here not known to all is that agriculture can also provide fuel to rival Oil.  The main drawback is mass production efficiency, oil is a finished product almost.  We have not yet perfected the technology but biodiesel is quite a real thing for some time now, its far easier to extract oil enmass and refine it easily but biodiesel can be about recycling waste.  A country without oil but able to grow alot of oil based plants could make do in a pinch, in the world wars gas was extracted from waste decay which is also something done now.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bitcoin_people on October 14, 2023, 01:34:58 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is the mineral resource of a country which helps the country in particular to do economically. Many countries in the world have developed their countries due to oil resources, they earn a lot of foreign exchange by exporting these mineral resources. And agriculture sector is the life of a country, without agriculture the people of a country would never survive depending on the export of other countries. Agriculture plays the most essential role in a country, if there is no agriculture sector then surely the country will suffer many people due to lack of food. Nowadays a country enjoys many benefits depending on its agriculture, everything from food items depends on agriculture alone. So I think agricultural resources are the biggest for a country, compared to oil resources, a country can survive without oil resources, but without agricultural resources the country cannot run.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mauser on October 14, 2023, 07:25:19 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Oil might be a great revenue stream at the moment for many oil exporting countries, but the high oil price is not going to stay like this forever. There will always be fluctuations in the oil price, which is why countries in the Middle East are looking for ways to diversify their countries away from oil. Tourism seems to be one sector many of the smaller countries like UAE or Dubai are focusing on, this attracts a lot of people from around the world and can bring in a lot of money if you can attract the rich tourist. One problem for the rich oil countries is that living standards are quite high, which means that transforming the country from oil to agriculture is not going to be easy. The wages of farmers are going to be lower than people working in the oil business, it's going to be hard to make people understand that they need to cutback and are going to earn less in the future. One way this could be solved would be with government subsidies, like many countries are doing with their food industries. The rich oil countries tend to have government wealth fund where all the oil money is being invested. With such large money reserves the government could boost the agriculture sector for a longtime and make them competitive and against countries with cheaper wages.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DVlog on October 14, 2023, 08:09:44 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Oil might be a great revenue stream at the moment for many oil exporting countries, but the high oil price is not going to stay like this forever. There will always be fluctuations in the oil price, which is why countries in the Middle East are looking for ways to diversify their countries away from oil. Tourism seems to be one sector many of the smaller countries like UAE or Dubai are focusing on, this attracts a lot of people from around the world and can bring in a lot of money if you can attract the rich tourist. One problem for the rich oil countries is that living standards are quite high, which means that transforming the country from oil to agriculture is not going to be easy. The wages of farmers are going to be lower than people working in the oil business, it's going to be hard to make people understand that they need to cutback and are going to earn less in the future. One way this could be solved would be with government subsidies, like many countries are doing with their food industries. The rich oil countries tend to have government wealth fund where all the oil money is being invested. With such large money reserves the government could boost the agriculture sector for a longtime and make them competitive and against countries with cheaper wages.


The most important fact to consider is the expanded usecase of renewable energy. Due to high carbon emission from fossil fuel some countries is focusing their development and resources towards renewable energy sector. In some context renewable energy proved to be cheaper than fossil fuel and companies like tesla is promoting renewable energy from the past decade heavily. Oil exporter countries will lose a huge stream of revenue.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bananington on October 14, 2023, 08:39:13 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture involves production of one of the most basic needs of man which is food, so it will always be in demand and will never have an alternative because there is no alternative to food. Oil is important, but there can be alternatives to use and countries that have and do not have oil as a natural resource are looking for alternatives to help reduce their dependence on Oil. A country with a very large investment in agriculture will always be profiting from exportation of agricultural produce to other countries especially when it is of high quality.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: poodle63 on October 15, 2023, 12:56:09 AM
Ironic point here not known to all is that agriculture can also provide fuel to rival Oil.  The main drawback is mass production efficiency, oil is a finished product almost.  We have not yet perfected the technology but biodiesel is quite a real thing for some time now, its far easier to extract oil enmass and refine it easily but biodiesel can be about recycling waste.  A country without oil but able to grow alot of oil based plants could make do in a pinch, in the world wars gas was extracted from waste decay which is also something done now.
thats true, but I guess it have something to do with efficiency maybe mining oil from earth is just more efficient than using plant based fuel, moreover it could also cause crisis, when it comes to using plant for fuel for long term overall country also need to preserve their agriculture product.
therefore i guess there's reason why many country didn't really produce plant based fuel but then again there are many things needs to be considered.
but overall its oil and agriculture needs to coexist in order to boost each other production.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: rangga28 on October 15, 2023, 04:46:45 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture involves production of one of the most basic needs of man which is food, so it will always be in demand and will never have an alternative because there is no alternative to food. Oil is important, but there can be alternatives to use and countries that have and do not have oil as a natural resource are looking for alternatives to help reduce their dependence on Oil. A country with a very large investment in agriculture will always be profiting from exportation of agricultural produce to other countries especially when it is of high quality.
Currently, oil and agriculture are almost the same as two things that are very important for human survival. Oil has an important meaning as the energy source that is most needed to drive the economy in various sectors. However, oil certainly has weaknesses because it is non-renewable energy.

Agriculture is the main sector for human survival, there are many alternatives that can be used to encourage agriculture to produce food. Even though agriculture is dependent on oil to speed up the process, even though it does not have oil energy sources, agriculture can still be carried out using traditional patterns. However, what is clear is that agriculture that produces food is the first milestone in supporting human survival. Without adequate food, all sectors will be greatly affected and the economy will not even survive.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: fadhilz123 on October 15, 2023, 06:01:19 AM
Currently, oil and agriculture are almost the same as two things that are very important for human survival. Oil has an important meaning as the energy source that is most needed to drive the economy in various sectors. However, oil certainly has weaknesses because it is non-renewable energy.
Even though oil is not a renewable energy, to this day it is still used by many factories and large companies when processing raw goods into goods that are ready to be marketed for use by many people. This means that oil is still seen as an important energy source for almost all countries that have large companies and factories in the world, so its weaknesses will not be so visible because its usefulness is still much greater and is also much more desired by many people to this day.

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Agriculture is the main sector for human survival, there are many alternatives that can be used to encourage agriculture to produce food. Even though agriculture is dependent on oil to speed up the process, even though it does not have oil energy sources, agriculture can still be carried out using traditional patterns. However, what is clear is that agriculture that produces food is the first milestone in supporting human survival. Without adequate food, all sectors will be greatly affected and the economy will not even survive.
The food sector such as agriculture should not be ignored and several countries are very serious about managing this better and even countries that do not have large areas of land for the agricultural sector have also implemented hydroponic farming in order to produce stable food for life. Because as you said, the agricultural sector can still be done traditionally by not relying on machines that require farmers to use oil, but because of the influence of current technology, not many people want to do farming traditionally anymore.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: hafiztalha on November 10, 2023, 03:23:03 PM
Agriculture and oil are important for the economy. When we talk of the importance, agriculture is more important than oil and the related industry. Most countries lack infrastructure for agriculture, grown countries have better infrastructure. The combined GDP of the oil industry along with other forms of energy seems to be similar as that of the GDP of agriculture.

The oil price directly hits the agricultural industry. Cultivation isn't happening within particular region and distributed. The transportation and other means of expenses increase. This makes the food turn expensive and these days there are crude oil based fertilizers for the mass production. In some means both agriculture and oil have got connect and both are mutually needed.
Both Agriculture and oil are very important for any country , agriculture gives good to eat  to the country .For the strength of any country economy,cultivation plays important role. Production of food is very country if country wants to grow and wants to be independent in the world . Food is first thing to exist in this planet .Oil is also important thing of our life because oil price controls the whole economy of the country .When oil price increases , prices of goods also increases ,if any country has a supply of oil ,it will be developed in a few years. Oil is such type of commodity on which all world economy depends ,we should save oil resources if we want to alive in the World.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 10, 2023, 04:01:39 PM
Both Agriculture and oil are very important for any country , agriculture gives good to eat  to the country .For the strength of any country economy,cultivation plays important role. Production of food is very country if country wants to grow and wants to be independent in the world . Food is first thing to exist in this planet .Oil is also important thing of our life because oil price controls the whole economy of the country .When oil price increases , prices of goods also increases ,if any country has a supply of oil ,it will be developed in a few years. Oil is such type of commodity on which all world economy depends ,we should save oil resources if we want to alive in the World.
    Obviously BOTH.because without fossil-fuels we would not have agriculture because fertilizers consist of fossil-fuels for its nitrogenization. Also, currently, we cannot survive without fossil-fuels/crude oil because the planet will experience “ENERGY POVERTY” that can collapse global economies eventually.  Now a soldiers gloves, boots, helmet, sunglasses, backpack, pretty much everything he carries is a direct partial byproduct or an indirect byproduct (indirect meaning oil was needed to manufacture/produce). Okay so the fuel consumption alone should give you an idea of how needed oil is.
   Agriculture, fueled literally by fossil fuels for tractors, plows, reapers, sprayers, fertilizers, harvesters and combines, trucks and trains, graineries and processing plants and pumps and cleaners and canneries and bottle washers and trucks and ovens and warehouses and shippers, is feeding 6.5 billion people. Every day. 6.5 billion people. Some 6 billion of those will starve to in the cold and dark if fossilfuels are restricted.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 10, 2023, 04:24:35 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think a country with oil economic strength tend to be better off than Agriculture producing countries with reference to oil rich countries whose major source of income and foreign exchange is oil, it is obvious that they use proceed from oil to develop their country while importing food from other countries, take for instance the Saudi Arabian league clubs that signed foreign based  players across Europe with huge money obtained from oil sales which any Agriculture producing country can not boost of, though some oil producing countries  recently economic downturn, I believe it's attributed to mismanagement and corruption by the government officials.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: khiholangkang on November 10, 2023, 04:42:09 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think a country with oil economic strength tend to be better off than Agriculture producing countries with reference to oil rich countries whose major source of income and foreign exchange is oil, it is obvious that they use proceed from oil to develop their country while importing food from other countries, take for instance the Saudi Arabian league clubs that signed foreign based  players across Europe with huge money obtained from oil sales which any Agriculture producing country can not boost of, though some oil producing countries  recently economic downturn, I believe it's attributed to mismanagement and corruption by the government officials.
Of course oil is the best to get a profit because it becomes the main fuel for today's technology, and also very little oil supply and year to year is getting more and more expensive, while for agriculture itself still has a lot of land and ways to get results Earth from agriculture for needs.
Oil is the best tool for the country's foreign exchange, and the average oil-producing country is a rich country today.

Still if the narrower agricultural land I think there will be a food criition where agriculture will become an indigenous industry and can be a country's foreign exchange in the next few decades, we see the human population index as well as the building population that is increasingly increasing and it will narrow the lands to do agriculture in the future.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Winterfrost on November 10, 2023, 04:44:41 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think a country with oil economic strength tend to be better off than Agriculture producing countries with reference to oil rich countries whose major source of income and foreign exchange is oil, it is obvious that they use proceed from oil to develop their country while importing food from other countries, take for instance the Saudi Arabian league clubs that signed foreign based  players across Europe with huge money obtained from oil sales which any Agriculture producing country can not boost of, though some oil producing countries  recently economic downturn, I believe it's attributed to mismanagement and corruption by the government officials.
The instance you gave is good but you should not forget that Saudi Arabia do not only depends on oil for economical success they also focus on mining they have natural resources like Gold and other precious stones. An this countries have less population so the money gotten from this natural resources is enough for distribution for the masses, so most of the money are been used to build infrastructures such as tourist centers and 5 stars hotel.

People do travel from different countries and come to Saudi Arabia for recreational activities and tour. Now this made us to understand that not only the resources can make increase the financial strength of a country but investment on the country can contribute to it. A country where a lot of foreigner visits a lot they are sure to be successful. Such countries like Dubai.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: HONDACD125 on November 10, 2023, 04:49:17 PM

    Obviously BOTH.because without fossil-fuels we would not have agriculture because fertilizers consist of fossil-fuels for its nitrogenization. Also, currently, we cannot survive without fossil-fuels/crude oil because the planet will experience “ENERGY POVERTY” that can collapse global economies eventually.  Now a soldiers gloves, boots, helmet, sunglasses, backpack, pretty much everything he carries is a direct partial byproduct or an indirect byproduct (indirect meaning oil was needed to manufacture/produce). Okay so the fuel consumption alone should give you an idea of how needed oil is.
   Agriculture, fueled literally by fossil fuels for tractors, plows, reapers, sprayers, fertilizers, harvesters and combines, trucks and trains, graineries and processing plants and pumps and cleaners and canneries and bottle washers and trucks and ovens and warehouses and shippers, is feeding 6.5 billion people. Every day. 6.5 billion people. Some 6 billion of those will starve to in the cold and dark if fossilfuels are restricted.


​I think both agriculture and oil are important in their place but if they are compared then agriculture will be considered as the most important thing. This is because agriculture has been with man since birth when nothing else existed except agriculture. Oil has been a very short time since the world started to develop, after that oil reserves started to be discovered and various facilities and conveniences for man started to be created by its use.

When there was no oil, man was still alive, He used wood as fuel. When there were no vehicles, people traveled on foot and various animals were used to carry goods. Airplanes, trains, military equipment, various industries, modern needs were nothing, life was difficult but not impossible, because there was no oil, but still there was agriculture and the greatest need. In olden times, soldiers did not have modern equipment but war was still fought, Even then there was no oil but still agriculture was there and was considered the most important need of the time. I think even today agriculture is the need of the hour.



Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: RockBell on November 10, 2023, 05:05:41 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture involves production of one of the most basic needs of man which is food, so it will always be in demand and will never have an alternative because there is no alternative to food. Oil is important, but there can be alternatives to use and countries that have and do not have oil as a natural resource are looking for alternatives to help reduce their dependence on Oil. A country with a very large investment in agriculture will always be profiting from exportation of agricultural produce to other countries especially when it is of high quality.
Agriculture is beyond providing basic needs, it is the done deal because there is no way we can survive without food, and food is obtained from a plant which makes it very important. the demand for food I don't think can be replaced with anything, true talk there is no alternative for food and the reason we work is all because of food. the importance of oil is gradually ending because of this alternative talk about electric cars, motor bicycles, and many more. and that is where governments are finding it difficult their attention is drawn to oil too much and the private is picking more interest in agriculture and that is why the price of food is going up, if the government has an interest in agriculture things won't be like this. all is time very soon the government will see the truth.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: btc78 on November 10, 2023, 07:54:02 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture involves production of one of the most basic needs of man which is food, so it will always be in demand and will never have an alternative because there is no alternative to food. Oil is important, but there can be alternatives to use and countries that have and do not have oil as a natural resource are looking for alternatives to help reduce their dependence on Oil. A country with a very large investment in agriculture will always be profiting from exportation of agricultural produce to other countries especially when it is of high quality.
and that is where governments are finding it difficult their attention is drawn to oil too much and the private is picking more interest in agriculture and that is why the price of food is going up, if the government has an interest in agriculture things won't be like this. all is time very soon the government will see the truth.
a lot of agricultural sectors are suffering because of lack of help from the government when the most basic need of people is food which comes from agriculture

i wish the government in my country put some attention towards agriculture as it is one of our biggest sector in the economy

it will only not help consumers but also the farmers and as well as the resellers


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Davian144 on November 10, 2023, 08:17:04 PM
Both Agriculture and oil are very important for any country , agriculture gives good to eat  to the country .For the strength of any country economy,cultivation plays important role. Production of food is very country if country wants to grow and wants to be independent in the world . Food is first thing to exist in this planet .Oil is also important thing of our life because oil price controls the whole economy of the country .When oil price increases , prices of goods also increases ,if any country has a supply of oil ,it will be developed in a few years. Oil is such type of commodity on which all world economy depends ,we should save oil resources if we want to alive in the World.
If I draw conclusions from what you said, you also consider these two things to be very important sources for all countries in the world. Unless there are countries that don't have humans in them, and that is impossible because almost all countries have humans in them who generally always need necessities such as oil and food. Oil resources can indeed improve the economy of all countries and agricultural resources can be a symbol of the prosperity of all countries if the agriculture they have is the agriculture that is most needed by everyone.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 13, 2023, 06:34:31 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Both of them have their own advantage. If you have access to oil, then that's an advantage for your country. Why wouldn't you take that advantage? Agricultural sector is so damn big and necessary for a nation or a country to survive. Doesn't matter if people have clothes to wear or other things to buy, in order to survive they need food. Each and every individual in a country requires food. But when you have oil in your country, you can improve your economy by exporting it to other countries and gain foreign currency.

Focusing on agriculture should be the first priority but when you have the advantage of having oil you should focus on it equally as it will give you an extra boost for improvement. I won't put them against each other, rather it will be wise to focus both on them and utilize them in a way so that we can take advantage from both of them.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Kelward on November 13, 2023, 11:42:00 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

These two sectors are very important to our survival and they are interdependent, one sustains life and the other helps make life easier. But if i must choose the one that is most important amongst the two, I'd have to go with agriculture, because it sustains life, not taking away the vital role that oil plays in machinery to help make work easier for mankind. All the machineries that make agricultural work to be easier are operated by man, and he needs food to survive and have the energy to operate the agricultural machineries.  Therefore I'd say that we can survive without machinery which uses oil, but we can not survive without agriculture that produces food to stay alive.

Then for export purposes, a country that has oil can export to a country that's rich in agriculture, and if they have food deficit, they can import food from the agricultural country. The world is also interdependent on each other to function ultimately.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: pinggoki on November 14, 2023, 06:10:49 AM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Any proof about fertilizers being derived in oil, I am curious about that because I only have heard about fertilizers containing ammonia or nitrates or other organic stuff so I have not heard of that kind of fertilizer. Also, what oil are you talking about because there's a lot of oil out there besides the black oil that this thread is talking about.
Focusing on agriculture should be the first priority but when you have the advantage of having oil you should focus on it equally as it will give you an extra boost for improvement. I won't put them against each other, rather it will be wise to focus both on them and utilize them in a way so that we can take advantage from both of them.
You don't make for a good economic planner because you're dividing your attention to stuff like this when you can just find a way to make this two coexist and at the same time make you more yield in both fields, if your agriculture sector is suffering it will affect the workforce of your country because the food isn't in the best levels to keep everyone fed which makes the prices rise for food and in turn make it so that your workforce have less energy for work and oil fields are pretty intensive when it comes to workforce and you don't want a low-energy workers manning your oil fields right?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Ben Barubal on November 14, 2023, 06:14:51 AM
  If it is really necessary to choose between these two, for me, I would choose agriculture because we have more resources that can be obtained from it compared to oil, because all vegetables, fruits, and paper come from here.

 The only sad thing is that other countries' governments don't care if the agriculture they have is actually being destroyed. Especially for rich people who turn farmers' farms into real estate and for other reasons besides this.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on November 14, 2023, 07:31:58 AM
Both oil and agriculture are essential to a strong economy and both are equally important but if we talk about more economic growth then oil plays a vital role. Oil is the largest source of the country's total energy supply. No matter what is going on throughout the world but oil is always on demand replacing oil is almost impossible. Replacing oil is far away, for meanwhile there are no alternatives of oil. A country where, there are no any other income source but oil is there they are on the top most richest county for example we can see the example of United States, Saudi Arabia etc


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slapper on November 14, 2023, 03:12:36 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Very good point and observation, but lets not  forget that man can still do without oil, but cant do without food. take your mind back to the old days when humans knew not what oil was, and neither knew how to process it, and neither have the necessary machines to process the oil, human still tilled the ground, cultivated and harvested with their hands without the need for machines that are powered by oils.

Even today, in some part of the world, even here in Nigeria, our old forks who do not own machines , and can not afford to hire one, still till the ground with their hand by their human strength, they cultivate, harvest their farm product with their hands without the need for machines.

This is why i say that, as much as machines through oil have played a very important role in helping Agriculture become big, Agriculture is still more important to human survival than oil will ever be, without food, every human will die of hunger, leaving behind the supposed oil we all consider to be the most valuable.
Contradicting you with your point, let me remind you that your example is set over years ago and a lot of changes have already happened since then including the number population that is in constant need of food. Oil helps farmers and food productions to process everything faster to answer to the constant demands for food supply. Hence, if we're going with your narrative, it will be close to impossible to cater to the unimaginable demand of food supply from billions of people without oil making it easier as it powers tools and supplies that a lot of farmers and food productions rely on. Moreover, isn't the very reason why oil and power tillers or tractors are adapted by many farmers due to the convenience it brings them to ensure that the demands are being met? I remember farmers even having a hard time saving up just to afford these tools and machines to help them with their work as it is becoming impossible for them to handle all the demands for food and the problem with lack of food supply.
Compared to old ways of gardening, we have come a long way, and the need for food has grown tremendously as the population has grown. Farmers can now work faster and more efficiently thanks to oil. Isn't it amazing how tractors have altered agriculture? Unquestionably, they make things easier and faster. We haven't stopped to think about the long-term effects, though. Although these tools are useful, the fact that they use oil raises concerns about their long-term viability and environmental impact. How can we balance the planet's long-term health with the current need to grow more food?

Then, there is the matter of mobility. That farmers are having a hard time paying for these oil-powered tools. This is an example of a bigger problem: unjust distribution of farming resources. Aren't you surprised that small-scale farmers can't get their hands on the tools that are meant to make them more productive? This makes me think of another question: Could this gap be filled by other, easier-to-use technologies? Maybe farmers should look into using green energy sources. The pressing need for food production and being better for the environment might make this a win-win situation. Isn't it a thought that's worth exploring?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 14, 2023, 07:52:40 PM
You don't make for a good economic planner because you're dividing your attention to stuff like this when you can just find a way to make this two coexist and at the same time make you more yield in both fields, if your agriculture sector is suffering it will affect the workforce of your country because the food isn't in the best levels to keep everyone fed which makes the prices rise for food and in turn make it so that your workforce have less energy for work and oil fields are pretty intensive when it comes to workforce and you don't want a low-energy workers manning your oil fields right?
Maybe you have got it mixed up. I didn't say that you should divide them into two sectors and focus on only one. Not every country is blessed with oil. So the main focus and goal should be agricultural sector. Each and every country has the population that they need to feed. Without agricultural improvement, you cannot improve your economy. Hence, it should be the first priority. Because everyone in that country needs food for survival.

But when you are blessed with oil, you need to focus on both of them. One is necessary, and the other one is advantage. In time of inflation, keeping a stable food price is the best choice in order to have a stable economy. So that should be the first priority. And with the oil thing, if you have it, you should treat it same as agricultural sector. Because it is also important for economy because you are gaining foreign income through it by exporting. When you have an advantage in your hand, you cannot improve your economy if you ignore that.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Antotena on November 14, 2023, 08:18:02 PM
Both of them have their own advantage. If you have access to oil, then that's an advantage for your country. Why wouldn't you take that advantage? Agricultural sector is so damn big and necessary for a nation or a country to survive. Doesn't matter if people have clothes to wear or other things to buy, in order to survive they need food. Each and every individual in a country requires food. But when you have oil in your country, you can improve your economy by exporting it to other countries and gain foreign currency.

The two are very lucrative but it depends on how they utilize it. Oil is very lucrative because it's source of energy for many things, the demand will never for once reduce in the market because it's a daily consumption natural resources. However, agriculture is also lucrative, we don't need much, just mechanize and improved farming will do the magic of heavy harvest when it's time for harvest.

The problem is that, Oil is naturally deposited organic compounds of hydrogen and carbon that are abundant, very huge that sometime they only can estimated how much a reservoir will contain and more to be in other locations, so because it's cheaply available, it makes them to rely more on the crude oil than agriculture that will require all of you and even improve way of making them in excess with less energy. You don't even need a refinery before you can sell crude oil because you can sell the barrels for other countries that want it and still generate revenue for your country.

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Focusing on agriculture should be the first priority but when you have the advantage of having oil you should focus on it equally as it will give you an extra boost for improvement. I won't put them against each other, rather it will be wise to focus both on them and utilize them in a way so that we can take advantage from both of them.

There was a time the government forcely tell everyone to have a farm in their houses especially the vegetables just to increased the demand for vegetables and guess what, most of the people that need all they need is at home, they don't need to be waiting to buy something you can do.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: kingvirtus09 on November 15, 2023, 02:03:43 PM
Here in our country, I saw something on the news just a while ago that there might be a problem with the supply of oil here because of the conflicts that are happening in the country of Israel, is it between IRAQ or SAUDI, as long as one of those two countries supplies the oil to us.

So it means that there will also be an oil crisis here, so it is probably a big problem now that our government is probably concerned about here, although I don't see any problem in agriculture here, to be honest.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Argoo on November 15, 2023, 03:20:11 PM
 If it is really necessary to choose between these two, for me, I would choose agriculture because we have more resources that can be obtained from it compared to oil, because all vegetables, fruits, and paper come from here.

 The only sad thing is that other countries' governments don't care if the agriculture they have is actually being destroyed. Especially for rich people who turn farmers' farms into real estate and for other reasons besides this.
In my opinion, we, as citizens of a particular state, cannot choose the importance between agriculture and the presence of oil fields. Developed agriculture in the state depends almost entirely on soil fertility and climate in the country. Oil production and profit from its sale depend on whether there are explored oil deposits in the country. But if the country has large oil reserves, then with the currency proceeds from its sale, it is quite possible to buy agricultural products, which in terms of volume are much cheaper. Therefore, the presence of oil is still preferable for the economic power of the state.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Samlucky O on November 15, 2023, 04:09:37 PM
No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
I strongly doubt it. Because not every country that depends on agriculture as there means of survival or lively hood. There are Many countries out there that are not rich in agriculture but depends on inportation of food products. If your country is rich in agriculture does not implies that every other is also likewise. I think for so many years many countries has been dependent on other countries for there survival. What really matters is what a country is good at. If a country has oil and gas which is the primary means of survival, I think they would Chanel there energy to it and makes it more lucurative and productive. I think a country that manages it oil and gas sector very well is liable to feed it's nation well than a country that is agriculturally productive and lacks planning. I see no reason of war if there is proper planning.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil and gas might be a big deal when it's comes to economic strength, but that doesn't mean agriculture is neither a big deal. Like I said oil and gas which you made mention is probably not in every country, you should get that. So what so ever a country is blessed with will definitely be a source of lively hood to such country. For example if you had 3 daughters without a son, I don't think you will use because of that and said you will not train them to be useful to you in the nearest future. Whatever nature gives you you will appreciate it and make the best out of it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AYOBA on November 15, 2023, 04:11:24 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
In my view, there is no difference between them because both are crucial to the nation and, given that our nation is nearly universal, I can compare them to twins. This is because, prior to the production of oil, agriculture produced the majority of the nation's food, so I fail to see how we can claim that they differ from one another. To be very honest, I don't think any nation could make a significant amount of money without its oil, I doubt the country will generate significant revenue.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Gaza13 on November 15, 2023, 04:18:11 PM
Both oil and agriculture are essential to a strong economy and both are equally important but if we talk about more economic growth then oil plays a vital role. Oil is the largest source of the country's total energy supply. No matter what is going on throughout the world but oil is always on demand replacing oil is almost impossible. Replacing oil is far away, for meanwhile there are no alternatives of oil. A country where, there are no any other income source but oil is there they are on the top most richest county for example we can see the example of United States, Saudi Arabia etc
Yes, I agree with you, indeed oil is a consumption that cannot be avoided by all countries, and is the largest source of income for oil producing countries. The agricultural sector also has a big influence on the population of the country. If a country like you mentioned is Saudi Arabia, it is quite a barren country, but there are many new advanced technologies nowadays in producing or producing agricultural products such as fruit and wheat.



Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: pinggoki on November 16, 2023, 02:28:29 AM
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Maybe you have got it mixed up. I didn't say that you should divide them into two sectors and focus on only one. Not every country is blessed with oil. So the main focus and goal should be agricultural sector. Each and every country has the population that they need to feed. Without agricultural improvement, you cannot improve your economy. Hence, it should be the first priority. Because everyone in that country needs food for survival.

But when you are blessed with oil, you need to focus on both of them. One is necessary, and the other one is advantage. In time of inflation, keeping a stable food price is the best choice in order to have a stable economy. So that should be the first priority. And with the oil thing, if you have it, you should treat it same as agricultural sector. Because it is also important for economy because you are gaining foreign income through it by exporting. When you have an advantage in your hand, you cannot improve your economy if you ignore that.
The problem with the oil advantage is that it's not really an advantage because if you are a poor country, then it's unlikely that you will be able to fund the machines, refineries, and equipment for extraction that oil, look at what's happening in countries that are full of oil reserves, they are most likely warzones or is suffering from economical, political, and social instability not to mention that if there's oil there, US is probably meddling in your country's politics or influencing it in some way so they can get a share of that precious black gold. I wouldn't say that oil is an advantage unless the people in charge of the country is a smart one and a capable leader that knows what to prioritize. Also, you can't just focus on agriculture because that would mean that your industrial will suffer that's why I said that you should find a way to meld the two industry together if you can.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 16, 2023, 04:50:23 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
This is not the case for some countries that have oil resources, they do not have abundant other resources, so their only way is to develop oil as an aspect of obtaining finance. Even if they have other resources, perhaps their power is not as strong as oil, so developing them will result in a lot of things they have to do.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
Without this sector you will not be able to eat and there will be no food to buy at affordable prices, that is why agriculture is considered the lifeblood of a country. But don't forget there is a country that does not have large areas of land to develop its agricultural potential and will try to carry out bilateral cooperation regarding export and import needs in this sector.

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
Try studying several countries that do not have agricultural resources in their country and what strategic steps they have taken. Of course, it will be quite problematic when a war occurs when the country does not have agricultural resources and the government has taken steps and preparations for that problem, although sometimes the practices that occur during war can be different.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 16, 2023, 06:27:23 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Agriculture involves production of one of the most basic needs of man which is food, so it will always be in demand and will never have an alternative because there is no alternative to food. Oil is important, but there can be alternatives to use and countries that have and do not have oil as a natural resource are looking for alternatives to help reduce their dependence on Oil. A country with a very large investment in agriculture will always be profiting from exportation of agricultural produce to other countries especially when it is of high quality.
and that is where governments are finding it difficult their attention is drawn to oil too much and the private is picking more interest in agriculture and that is why the price of food is going up, if the government has an interest in agriculture things won't be like this. all is time very soon the government will see the truth.
a lot of agricultural sectors are suffering because of lack of help from the government when the most basic need of people is food which comes from agriculture

i wish the government in my country put some attention towards agriculture as it is one of our biggest sector in the economy

it will only not help consumers but also the farmers and as well as the resellers
I expected you to have first indicated the usefulness of agriculture and the efforts that the private sector had made to harness it before talking about government intervention. I don't know your country but you might have sounded like a Nigerian that wanted the government to do everything for them. And despite many interventions of government in the agricultural sector over the years, what results have that yielded except for the serious farmers themselves? Some officials and farmers will even collude to embezzle the money while some farmers will deliberately divert the money to other use. The countries that are doing well in agriculture don't easily call the government for intervention unless there is a disaster and other things out of their control. Government intervention should be the last resort but unfortunately in the countries that are in dire need of agriculture to save them, that comes first and that is why tangible achievement will not be made.

Agriculture is very powerful to save any nation from lack and poverty but nothing will ever happen if the citizens are not willing or are pushy and believe government should do everything for them. Go and check flourishing countries, the government is not the one driving the economy it's the private sector, and willingness, versatility, resilience, good planning, management, etc. are the keys.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: inthelongrun on November 16, 2023, 11:22:05 AM
Here in our country, I saw something on the news just a while ago that there might be a problem with the supply of oil here because of the conflicts that are happening in the country of Israel, is it between IRAQ or SAUDI, as long as one of those two countries supplies the oil to us.

So it means that there will also be an oil crisis here, so it is probably a big problem now that our government is probably concerned about here, although I don't see any problem in agriculture here, to be honest.

I think there is less to worry about the oil supply since neither Israel nor Palestine are oil export countries. Saudi Arabia condemning Israel's attack also lowers the chance of further Yemeni attacks on its oil fields. It will only become a problem if rivals Saudi Arabia and Iran start their own conflict. The civil war in Yemen isn't done yet though so both Saudi and Iran are still in a proxy war as both want to establish a Yemeni government on their side.

Agriculture however is a must since people need to eat every day. Innovations won't stop so in the future, there will be less oil demand and it will die out later due to clean energy. That is why these oil-rich and desert nations are investing a lot outside of oil for long-term economic sustainability.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: arimamib on November 16, 2023, 04:00:14 PM
Both oil and agriculture are essential to a strong economy and both are equally important but if we talk about more economic growth then oil plays a vital role. Oil is the largest source of the country's total energy supply. No matter what is going on throughout the world but oil is always on demand replacing oil is almost impossible. Replacing oil is far away, for meanwhile there are no alternatives of oil. A country where, there are no any other income source but oil is there they are on the top most richest county for example we can see the example of United States, Saudi Arabia etc
Yes, I agree with you, indeed oil is a consumption that cannot be avoided by all countries, and is the largest source of income for oil producing countries. The agricultural sector also has a big influence on the population of the country. If a country like you mentioned is Saudi Arabia, it is quite a barren country, but there are many new advanced technologies nowadays in producing or producing agricultural products such as fruit and wheat.


we know that oil is a resource that is becoming increasingly expensive which provides a significant impact on oil-producing countries, because they rely on oil exports for their income. if the fuel prices rise, these countries may experience the difficulty to maintain their current standard of living. this proves that the influence of agricultural sector is extremely important for the living of population of the world which means that agriculture is irreplaceable in the economic growth for the majority of countries in the world, because food is also an energy for human. this is the reason for governments to realize the essential of finding sustainable ways to meet the energy and food needs of the world's growing population. This is why renewable energy sources has become the biggest issue in the world right now.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Suzume on November 16, 2023, 04:37:00 PM
I think both because one can't maintain world economy. Because every country don't have agriculture or oil. You can see Bangladesh is agriculture country beside you can see Saudi Arabia which can give oil. Both country depends on both for agriculture for feeding in Bangladesh depend for oil on Saudi Arabia. Agriculture and oil both because both are depend on other country for that that's why I will go for both.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 16, 2023, 05:41:03 PM
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Now that you have said this, this made me think. Actually you are right. If the people in charge of the system aren't capable enough to use it to their advantage and let other country influence the system in order to take advantage, then it is no good for that country. And the thing about war and all, it may not be considered as an advantage. Instead, it could be a curse for those people.

But when you have the ability and assets to mine that oil, then it is really an advantage. When it comes to this point, then The government of that country should focus on both agriculture and oil. When you have the opportunity in your hand it is foolish just to give it away. If the people who are in charge can utilize it in the best way then it is sure going to help the economy grow faster.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: jacafbiz on November 16, 2023, 05:50:16 PM
Oil is free money, just looked at the big oil producing countries how successful they are, apart from those nations where corruption is very high, most of the citizens of these countries have good standard of living than countries that their economies are based on Agriculture. If not for Oil, do you think Russia would be able to occupy Ukraine and be able to fund their war against Ukraine when United States and Europe are funding Ukraine, the answer is No, until there is a real substitute to Oil, and it becomes irrelevant it remains sure cash cow


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mate2237 on November 16, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
I think there are countries in the world that doing well without oil. And those countries are more peaceful than the countries that have oil. Oil is not developing the places which it is discovered but develop the places are far from the oil terrain. But those places have the oil survive from the negligence agriculture. So in normal sense. Agriculture is for the poor while oil is the rich.

Those who are rich are not interested in the Agriculture but interested only in the oil while the poor since they could not benefit from the oil they went to farm and survive from there. And agriculture is the best among all.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: naikturun on November 17, 2023, 05:54:31 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?


In my opinion, oil is still number 1 because the amount exported from there is very large, like Russia and other oil producing countries, we can see their income from that sector, although the agricultural sector is also important, but if you look at it in terms of a country's strength then oil is which determine.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bayu7adi on November 17, 2023, 01:34:19 PM
In my opinion, oil is still number 1 because the amount exported from there is very large, like Russia and other oil producing countries, we can see their income from that sector, although the agricultural sector is also important, but if you look at it in terms of a country's strength then oil is which determine.
This might be because oil is quite limited, while agriculture can be done by many countries. As long as many machines still rely on oil as fuel, this industry will thrive until the transition period arrives. Yes... the era of EVs becoming mainstream and people moving away from high pollution engines is when the oil world will undergo a change.

I see, in the short term, oil does promise significant profits. This aligns with the high demand for oil in every country's needs. Meanwhile, for the long term, agriculture is the best bet. We all need rice and vegetables every day, and the agriculture industry can be sustainable as long as there is fertile land and water.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mr.right85 on November 17, 2023, 02:59:07 PM
The new world is one that is fueled by oil and that’s why, you find nations amongst the oil producing states numbering as some of the richest in the world should it’s government not be rocked by corruption.
As the human population grows, so is the need for more produce to be able to feed the populace and the rate of turn over for agriculture takes time. Fine, we’ve got genetic engineering to cut across the timing by engineering useful traits but, it’s overly not enough to bring about the turn over you could get from oil.

When it comes to economic growth. I think oil accounts more than any agro based sector could. Even agriculture can’t completely function and be more productive without oil. Oil fuels the energy that is needed to run the sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 17, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
The new world is one that is fueled by oil and that’s why, you find nations amongst the oil producing states numbering as some of the richest in the world should it’s government not be rocked by corruption.
As the human population grows, so is the need for more produce to be able to feed the populace and the rate of turn over for agriculture takes time. Fine, we’ve got genetic engineering to cut across the timing by engineering useful traits but, it’s overly not enough to bring about the turn over you could get from oil.

When it comes to economic growth. I think oil accounts more than any agro based sector could. Even agriculture can’t completely function and be more productive without oil. Oil fuels the energy that is needed to run the sector.
    The two resources are essential for a country's economic growth and they just can't be weighed as one being better than the other. There are so many reasons as to why these two reasons are essential and when argued on, they just can't be judged completely. Agriculture is essential because without it being maximized, the country will just be left to nothing to feed on. A country should invest in agriculture because against all odds, it'll create the least job opportunity for the citizens. It'll aid in crop production for export to other countries too. Agriculture is more like the basic life line in every country and shouldn't be looked down on.
    Oil on the other hand is very much essential because it yields greater revenue than any other resource of a country. When you see United Arab Emirates having a buoyant economy and even with the depreciating occurrences in other economies, they're still able to stand out to generate and expand their revenue sources, then it's all because of how well they've been able to work on their oil exploration and they've made a means to maximize their oil production. Nigeria is blessed with these two essential resources but what we're lacking is a proper hand to handling these resources without corruption or greed. If we're able to conquer selfishness and we work together to building right the country using what we have, then no doubt, we'd be able to overcoming so many setbacks the economy will throw at us.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DrBeer on November 17, 2023, 06:41:33 PM
The modern world, yes, still depends on hydrocarbons, and primarily oil. Gas is a more accessible resource than oil, and more widespread. Oil is a resource more concentrated in "a few hands".  And as you can see, oil has now become a tool of influence, coercion and manipulation, both in the world economy and world politics. that is why developed countries realize that this resource must be replaced. Yes, replacing the main type of raw materials in the world economy is not a simple, long and complicated process. Moreover, the closer to the reduction of available resources (available deposits), the more often oil will be used as a tool of pressure. However, there are some good nuances here:
- There is no monopolization of production sources in the hands of one group, with anti-human concepts. The US is already increasing production and reserves, Venezuela has accepted the US offer and will be entering the world market. Saudi Arabia has also spit on OPEC and is increasing production. Which means - we can expect the market to stabilize.
- The new terrorist war unleashed in the Middle East by terrorist groups, which had as one of its goals the destabilization of the region and, accordingly, a negative impact on the oil market, fortunately failed, which means that there is a high probability of additional stabilization of this market.
- Now ALL alternative energy technologies are being actively developed in the world. From renewable sources (wind, sun, waves,...) to controlled cold nuclear fusion. And as a product for the masses - it is a matter of 10-20 years. That will be just enough time to get rid of oil monopoly. Yes, oil will be used to produce plastics, but as the only fuel for transportation, for example, oil will lose its position very strongly.
 
But let's get back to the agricultural sector ! If you replace the source of energy with hydrocarbon energy, you can. I don't see any alternatives for mass production of food. Yes, I know I'm already "growing" artificial meat. And perhaps this technology will someday occupy its niche on the world market, but... Food was, is and will remain the last demanded product on earth.  The agricultural sector will be the leader here for many decades, if not centuries. And this limitation is not so much technological as physiological. This is the way the human organism, nature, and the outcome of evolutionary changes are organized.

Therefore, agro and alternative technologies of energy production are definitely tipping the scales on their side.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: topbitcoin on November 17, 2023, 07:40:20 PM
Oil is free money, just looked at the big oil producing countries how successful they are, apart from those nations where corruption is very high, most of the citizens of these countries have good standard of living than countries that their economies are based on Agriculture. If not for Oil, do you think Russia would be able to occupy Ukraine and be able to fund their war against Ukraine when United States and Europe are funding Ukraine, the answer is No, until there is a real substitute to Oil, and it becomes irrelevant it remains sure cash cow

Currently, petroleum has become a very important role for the survival of human life, because oil is a source of energy. So that they, oil producing countries, really benefit and to date, demand for fossil fuels continues to increase. And indeed, when compared with countries that only rely on agriculture, the standard of living of the people is very different. However, despite this, food is still the world's main need compared to oil. because what guarantees the continuity of human life is the availability of food.

In my opinion, it is possible that Russia will be able to occupy Ukraine, because from my perspective, I see that currently America is more focused on the upheaval of the conflict taking place in the Middle East. And Ukraine is not more important than the Middle East, because so far the countries in the Middle East have accounted for America's oil supplies and needs.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on November 17, 2023, 08:02:37 PM
USA is large enough in its oil production to join OPEC if they wanted.  Its also true their consumption is massive but in resources they have more then enough, half a century forward if required.   Venezuela has the largest reserves in the world but not the efficiency to extract and refine it profitably.   Its part of a market and export vs import, some times its easier to buy production from abroad but I have no doubt USA has any lack of oil.
   Same reasoning I would apply to Russia benefiting from occupying Ukraine.   Disregarding any law or morals to their actions, there is little sense from any perspective.  Russia wont benefit from this war, at the very best they eliminate a competitor in some way but the world has plenty more waiting.
   The usable land mass of Russia is expanding massively every year, not by invasion of others but their own land sealed in permafrost is becoming available which means even more oil and gas.   Yet like Venezuela's fate they lack the people, the sophisticated industry and efficiency to profit.   War will not profit them or anyone else, the only strategy was to hurt others more then themselves and even this is questionable.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Hispo on November 18, 2023, 01:14:23 AM
This actually hits very close to home in my case actually. I was born in Venezuela.
During many decades and even up to a century, we used to be a country which managed to survive in the international markets thanks to agriculture and some mining, but mostly agriculture or some very appreciated crops: coffee, cocoa, bananas, etc. Since we discovered we had a lot of oil we started to move from being a food producing country to being one which almost completely depended in food importations from neighbor countries both processed food and also vegetables and fruits of several sorts.
Nobody cared about it, because the price of oil was high and we could afford to buy all that food abroad, but the black swam scenario happened and oil prices dumped very badly, starting a time or scarce food, which was inimaginable in the times we produced all the food we needed.
So that is a big lesson to keep in mind to anyone who wants to know and hold some basic concept of macroeconomics. Never underestimate de importance of agriculture for the development and survival or any country, regardless of the size of it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: naikturun on November 18, 2023, 10:40:22 AM
In my opinion, oil is still number 1 because the amount exported from there is very large, like Russia and other oil producing countries, we can see their income from that sector, although the agricultural sector is also important, but if you look at it in terms of a country's strength then oil is which determine.
This might be because oil is quite limited, while agriculture can be done by many countries. As long as many machines still rely on oil as fuel, this industry will thrive until the transition period arrives. Yes... the era of EVs becoming mainstream and people moving away from high pollution engines is when the oil world will undergo a change.

I see, in the short term, oil does promise significant profits. This aligns with the high demand for oil in every country's needs. Meanwhile, for the long term, agriculture is the best bet. We all need rice and vegetables every day, and the agriculture industry can be sustainable as long as there is fertile land and water.



and to carry all agricultural products to various regions and other countries requires fuel, that is what is always used, essentially oil is still used, unless major changes occur.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 18, 2023, 10:53:11 AM
I think both because one can't maintain world economy. Because every country don't have agriculture or oil. You can see Bangladesh is agriculture country beside you can see Saudi Arabia which can give oil. Both country depends on both for agriculture for feeding in Bangladesh depend for oil on Saudi Arabia.
Both are important and we don't have food if we don't have agricultural products and we can't cook foods and generate the agricultural lands if we don't have oil.

Agriculture and oil both because both are depend on other country for that that's why I will go for both.
Most middle eastern countries are dependent on their oil as their main source for their industry and economy. While in other parts of the world, they're for the agriculture so it's a tie for every country has their own main niche and products that they're dependent.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: CageMabok on November 18, 2023, 10:54:55 AM
I think both because one can't maintain world economy. Because every country don't have agriculture or oil. You can see Bangladesh is agriculture country beside you can see Saudi Arabia which can give oil. Both country depends on both for agriculture for feeding in Bangladesh depend for oil on Saudi Arabia. Agriculture and oil both because both are depend on other country for that that's why I will go for both.
I also think that choosing both of them is not wrong because basically these two things have become things that are really needed by everyone in every country. So ignoring one of them will have a bad effect on other sectors so that both must be equally maintained by each country and also well maintained by each country for the welfare and prosperity of its respective people. Moreover, now everyone can clearly see examples in various other countries that have oil and also have agriculture or one of the two.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Z_MBFM on November 18, 2023, 11:03:04 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
Oil is a mineral and it is not available in every country because of which the country that has it can export a lot of oil and because of that the economy of that country grows a lot. And this is a normal thing

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But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
If one can properly invest and maintain the agriculture sector, a lot of good can be done there. And if it spreads widely in a country, then that country grows economically from the agricultural sector as well. Because the price of food products is increasing day by day and every country has more or less food shortage. So the country which is making good profit in agriculture sector can go ahead economically even by exporting food products

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
Yes not only oil runs a country but food is most important to run a country. Because food keeps our lives alive, so of course, because of this, one country always maintains good relations with another country. to import and export anything as needed

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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think food is the most important thing because without food life cannot survive but without oil at least it is possible to survive.  But oil also has a huge role so both are very important neither of them can be denied from the important list


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: leonair on November 18, 2023, 12:04:00 PM
I think both because one can't maintain world economy. Because every country don't have agriculture or oil. You can see Bangladesh is agriculture country beside you can see Saudi Arabia which can give oil. Both country depends on both for agriculture for feeding in Bangladesh depend for oil on Saudi Arabia. Agriculture and oil both because both are depend on other country for that that's why I will go for both.
I also think that choosing both of them is not wrong because basically these two things have become things that are really needed by everyone in every country. So ignoring one of them will have a bad effect on other sectors so that both must be equally maintained by each country and also well maintained by each country for the welfare and prosperity of its respective people. Moreover, now everyone can clearly see examples in various other countries that have oil and also have agriculture or one of the two.
Do you think any country can survive without oil or agriculture sector?  The agricultural sector also needs oil because transport requires cars and oil is needed to drive cars.  There are thousands of aspects for which oil is very important.  On the other hand, without agricultural fields, there will be no food production and no animal can live without food.  So definitely both are very important and mandatory.  But if only one has to be picked then agriculture sector should be given a little more priority as it helps save lives.  And almost every country in the world has an agricultural sector and it also helps the country to boost its economy


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slashz9 on November 18, 2023, 12:53:34 PM


Do you think any country can survive without oil or agriculture sector?  The agricultural sector also needs oil because transport requires cars and oil is needed to drive cars.  There are thousands of aspects for which oil is very important.  On the other hand, without agricultural fields, there will be no food production and no animal can live without food.  So definitely both are very important and mandatory.  But if only one has to be picked then agriculture sector should be given a little more priority as it helps save lives.  And almost every country in the world has an agricultural sector and it also helps the country to boost its economy


I think both are important, but the more important point from op's question is that a country's strength is measured by oil or agriculture, I think oil, because that is what determines whether a country is strong or not.
The reason is that oil can be used during war, although agriculture is no less important, all countries can plant, but not all countries have oil resources.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Velemir Sava on November 18, 2023, 01:07:32 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Let me generalize, the agricultural sector can reduce dependence on imports and achieve food security and continue to contribute foreign exchange to the country if wise management of natural resources can be the key to long-term success. Don't be overly dependent. For oil, it is not much different, the only thing that needs to be taken care of is the environmental impact that will arise in the future by establishing strict environmental regulations and if something is violated, don't hesitate to provide a deterrent effect, for example, withdraw the permit.

For me, it is possible that the two exist and can be compared if you ask why because it is also part of the economic resilience of a country so that it creates social welfare in the end.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: DrBeer on November 18, 2023, 01:35:43 PM
USA is large enough in its oil production to join OPEC if they wanted.  Its also true their consumption is massive but in resources they have more then enough, half a century forward if required.   Venezuela has the largest reserves in the world but not the efficiency to extract and refine it profitably.   Its part of a market and export vs import, some times its easier to buy production from abroad but I have no doubt USA has any lack of oil.
   Same reasoning I would apply to Russia benefiting from occupying Ukraine.   Disregarding any law or morals to their actions, there is little sense from any perspective.  Russia wont benefit from this war, at the very best they eliminate a competitor in some way but the world has plenty more waiting.
   The usable land mass of Russia is expanding massively every year, not by invasion of others but their own land sealed in permafrost is becoming available which means even more oil and gas.   Yet like Venezuela's fate they lack the people, the sophisticated industry and efficiency to profit.   War will not profit them or anyone else, the only strategy was to hurt others more then themselves and even this is questionable.

What's the point of the US becoming a member of OPEC ? They're essentially competitors of the US. Therefore, the U.S. plays its own game - its own production, plus most likely there will be oil from Venezuela, plus the U.S. has the opportunity to settle oil production issues with Saudi Arabia. And this is enough to stabilize or even manipulate the oil market. And joining OPEC is unnecessary restrictions and obligations, especially in this "alliance", there are frankly specific countries that, to put it mildly, hate the United States. Therefore, if the U.S. joins any oil union, it will be a U.S.-led union :))


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: SatoPrincess on November 18, 2023, 09:27:17 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is a bigger sector of economy than agriculture. The value of oil cannot be overstated, countries have fought civil and international wars because of oil wells. The whole world revolves around oil, every country wants a treaty with an oil producing nation that is why the Saudis have become wealthy and powerful in the world today. Ever heard the term ‘oil money’? With the profits and influence they have gathered from oil exports, the country can move into other sectors like agriculture, sports, health e.t.c.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Dunamisx on November 18, 2023, 09:35:41 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

Maybe if you ask me i will say that oil is no longer booming as before ever since the invention of bitcoin, to say the fact oil boom was part of the reasons many left the practice of agriculture for the gold rush in oil boom and all we could acheive after all that are these present results with inflation and recession threat.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations

All these were actually things of the past and not anymore invoke, except we all can realized the need of going back to the practice of agriculture which we left times back and possibly together with bitcoin, things may change and turn around.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Rasa nanas on November 18, 2023, 11:11:16 PM
agriculture and oil are two very important factors because agriculture is related to food security and oil is related to energy. but currently each country has started to manage its own food security but regarding oil not all countries can manage it because they do not have sufficient oil reserves. On the other hand the food sources that we need every day are renewable resources, but oil is a nonrenewable resource. That's why currently many countries are eyeing oil and making countries that have abundant oil reserves make big profits.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Hispo on November 19, 2023, 12:45:23 AM
agriculture and oil are two very important factors because agriculture is related to food security and oil is related to energy. but currently each country has started to manage its own food security but regarding oil not all countries can manage it because they do not have sufficient oil reserves. On the other hand the food sources that we need every day are renewable resources, but oil is a nonrenewable resource. That's why currently many countries are eyeing oil and making countries that have abundant oil reserves make big profits.

No country can survive without both of those things: food and energy. There is only one way to get food and that is growing it from the soil, however oil is completely essential for the development or the survival of a nation, because it is not the only source of energy, one can get energy from the sun, rivers, the wind, uranium and even from the own crops as well (bio diesel/ethanol).
That is why I believe countries should not focus so much on oil and focus more on their food security, develop more infrastructure to reduce hunger among their population while there is a steady transition towards renewable energy and slowly decreasing the consumption of fossil fuels.

Land is supposed to be used and instead leaving unproductive land behind, it must be taken care of, that is one of the important lessons we did not learn here in my country, even after struggling with hunger for years.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 19, 2023, 02:03:18 PM
agriculture and oil are two very important factors because agriculture is related to food security and oil is related to energy. but currently each country has started to manage its own food security but regarding oil not all countries can manage it because they do not have sufficient oil reserves. On the other hand the food sources that we need every day are renewable resources, but oil is a nonrenewable resource. That's why currently many countries are eyeing oil and making countries that have abundant oil reserves make big profits.
In some countries the agricultural sector is much larger than the oil sector and we cannot generally see that the oil sector is a bigger sector in a country. Not all countries have petroleum and not all countries have an extensive agricultural sector, both of these are important sectors as aspects that should be considered, but for my country the agricultural sector is the largest contributor to the country's economy through export channels. This sector also absorbs many job opportunities in rural areas as one of the options available to the community, so these two sectors have their respective roles for some countries and may depend on the availability of one of them.

The oil sector appears to be stronger in some countries and vice versa for the agricultural sector which is the basis of the national and regional economy. The agricultural sector also plays an important role for our country because of the large amount of land that can be utilized by farmers to produce sufficient crops to export abroad.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bloodseekers on November 19, 2023, 03:51:44 PM
agriculture and oil are two very important factors because agriculture is related to food security and oil is related to energy. but currently each country has started to manage its own food security but regarding oil not all countries can manage it because they do not have sufficient oil reserves. On the other hand the food sources that we need every day are renewable resources, but oil is a nonrenewable resource. That's why currently many countries are eyeing oil and making countries that have abundant oil reserves make big profits.
You are right, these two things are interdependent but not all countries have oil reserves so in this case countries that have large amounts of oil are very lucky for them and in terms of agriculture although not all countries have enough land to be able to do farming they can use sophisticated technology to be able to carry out agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Lamkuthang on November 19, 2023, 04:23:54 PM
You are right, these two things are interdependent but not all countries have oil reserves so in this case countries that have large amounts of oil are very lucky for them and in terms of agriculture although not all countries have enough land to be able to do farming they can use sophisticated technology to be able to carry out agriculture.

I am interested in seeing what Singapore wants in terms of agriculture in the future. Yes. The government there has previously always imported almost all food items and now they want to change the game little by little by encouraging residents to grow their own fruit and vegetables on rooftops and balconies. An exemplary effort in terms of food independence to reduce dependence on foreign countries for food supplies. For oil, they are superior and Singapore is also listed as an oil exporting country


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: super bako on November 19, 2023, 04:33:46 PM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is a bigger sector of economy than agriculture. The value of oil cannot be overstated, countries have fought civil and international wars because of oil wells. The whole world revolves around oil, every country wants a treaty with an oil producing nation that is why the Saudis have become wealthy and powerful in the world today. Ever heard the term ‘oil money’? With the profits and influence they have gathered from oil exports, the country can move into other sectors like agriculture, sports, health e.t.c.
Arab countries can be said to have a lot of elite people because oil is abundant, and seeing the news circulating that Arab countries are trying other sectors such as sports and agriculture. I don't know the conditions there so I wonder if the oil could run out. What surprised me most was that their country was building a big star casino hotel, this is not a destructive point of view. having a casino built has these pros and cons.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: HONDACD125 on November 19, 2023, 04:53:30 PM

I am interested in seeing what Singapore wants in terms of agriculture in the future. Yes. The government there has previously always imported almost all food items and now they want to change the game little by little by encouraging residents to grow their own fruit and vegetables on rooftops and balconies. An exemplary effort in terms of food independence to reduce dependence on foreign countries for food supplies. For oil, they are superior and Singapore is also listed as an oil exporting country

Among the basic needs of any country, oil and agriculture are the most important, The development of every country is related to both agriculture and oil.Countries with little or no dependence on other countries for food and oil are certainly in the hands of very lucky and excellent decision makers. Encouraging people to grow vegetables and fruits at home is a great effort and can greatly reduce any government's food expenditure.

You seem to be very happy with the Singapore government and should be because they are doing their best.Our country Pakistan is an agricultural country, but still we are not self-sufficient in agriculture, rather our fruits and vegetables are often imported from other countries. Even in the oil sector we are not self-sufficient, and our own needs are not met, but we have to import, but in agriculture we can develop a lot, but the poor policies of our rulers have taken us far behind agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: JMBitcointernational on November 29, 2023, 10:31:13 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil has factually remained a major Source of income for economic development , which Its effect has remained solute To effective increase in the economic welfare .there are likely other sector that can immensly  contribute To economic growth , like agricultural sector . The question is can agricultural sector sustain the economic needs ?.
Reaserch has It that outside oil booming And Gold mining another sector of the Economy that can sustain And increase economic growth is the Agricultural sector .
 
Agriculture as the name implies has played an immensive role In the economic development outside oil And other sectors, the sale of agricultural products like cotton, wheat, rice , cassava ,Yam , tobbaco And many other Farm produce has actually And magnificantly contirbuted To the Rise Of An Economy as a result of capital generated from the sales of the products .

Oil as a means of economic growth is nice But proper diversification To other sectoral aspects will eventually give a country Edge over other countries because they also grow financially as a result of the funds generated from The sector .


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: $anounimus$ on November 29, 2023, 11:38:06 AM
You are right, these two things are interdependent but not all countries have oil reserves so in this case countries that have large amounts of oil are very lucky for them and in terms of agriculture although not all countries have enough land to be able to do farming they can use sophisticated technology to be able to carry out agriculture.

I am interested in seeing what Singapore wants in terms of agriculture in the future. Yes. The government there has previously always imported almost all food items and now they want to change the game little by little by encouraging residents to grow their own fruit and vegetables on rooftops and balconies. An exemplary effort in terms of food independence to reduce dependence on foreign countries for food supplies. For oil, they are superior and Singapore is also listed as an oil exporting country
Singapore is a small country and only has a small population. The small country in the Southeast Asian region is indeed known as the world business center so that the economy there is very strong. But I am amazed by what people in Singapore are doing in strengthening the small scale food sector, they have been able to do something extraordinary when the world is hit by a food crisis. In my opinion, positive things like that must be imitated by people in other countries so that the food crisis does not become a frightening specter. Awareness and discipline must be done by everyone to assist the government in suppressing crisis.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slapper on November 29, 2023, 02:21:04 PM
You are right, these two things are interdependent but not all countries have oil reserves so in this case countries that have large amounts of oil are very lucky for them and in terms of agriculture although not all countries have enough land to be able to do farming they can use sophisticated technology to be able to carry out agriculture.

I am interested in seeing what Singapore wants in terms of agriculture in the future. Yes. The government there has previously always imported almost all food items and now they want to change the game little by little by encouraging residents to grow their own fruit and vegetables on rooftops and balconies. An exemplary effort in terms of food independence to reduce dependence on foreign countries for food supplies. For oil, they are superior and Singapore is also listed as an oil exporting country
Singapore is a small country and only has a small population. The small country in the Southeast Asian region is indeed known as the world business center so that the economy there is very strong. But I am amazed by what people in Singapore are doing in strengthening the small scale food sector, they have been able to do something extraordinary when the world is hit by a food crisis. In my opinion, positive things like that must be imitated by people in other countries so that the food crisis does not become a frightening specter. Awareness and discipline must be done by everyone to assist the government in suppressing crisis.
Although we applaud their achievements, are these strategies universal? Unique economic structure, strong governance, efficient policies, and high public compliance are vital to Singapore's success. Countries with differing economic dynamics and government styles may struggle to copy. Their remedies may need socioeconomic changes.

Is it important to detail these strategies? Technology, government incentives, and public-private partnerships may be Singapore's solution. Understanding these complexities helps adapt them. Some countries with larger agricultural sectors or climatic issues may need to adapt these policies. Dont we need a country-specific resilience formula rather than a generic one?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: shushu9977 on November 29, 2023, 02:57:00 PM
Both agriculture and oil are very important for any country in the world. If we have both, then the country will be taken the leadership. If we have one, then we need to help from others. By the way, I am the side of agriculture if you want to take one. Because we eat to live.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: JayTrain on November 29, 2023, 04:11:56 PM
Both components are very important in the economic sense of a country or city. But I think it will be difficult for a person to cope without agriculture, because this is the primary thing a person needs for life. Oil is also important in processing into fuel, then transporting the same agriculture from point A to point B.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cryptoknightt on November 30, 2023, 01:28:51 PM
Even though they don't have good agricultural resources, those who have a lot of oil resources, I think, will still be prosperous because they can barter, agriculture is easier to make than oil, you have to get it from oil sources.
Previously, we had to plant plants outside, but now there are people who plant them indoors, underground or wherever, as if that could be done.
but not with oil, you still need the core ingredients from the source.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: CryptSafe on December 01, 2023, 09:24:58 AM
The role and importance Agriculture play in the growth of the economy of a nation can never be overemphasized. Of a truth Oil too has its role to play but it can not be substituted for food as agriculture can provide food for man. Before the discovery of oil, the economy of nations were driven by Agriculture and that has built their economy to sustenance before the advent of crude. Although crude oil paved way for fast development of technology and other important aspect of the societal growth and some too were also developed to further make agriculture more enticing and appealing too which results to fast agricultural production in the society so as to meet up with the teaming population and demand of the society for food and raw materials.
Nevertheless both economies are very much important to this point in time as the world economy strive on them to sustain her populace and ego.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 01, 2023, 09:55:37 AM
USA is large enough in its oil production to join OPEC if they wanted.  Its also true their consumption is massive but in resources they have more then enough, half a century forward if required.   Venezuela has the largest reserves in the world but not the efficiency to extract and refine it profitably.   Its part of a market and export vs import, some times its easier to buy production from abroad but I have no doubt USA has any lack of oil.
   Same reasoning I would apply to Russia benefiting from occupying Ukraine.   Disregarding any law or morals to their actions, there is little sense from any perspective.  Russia wont benefit from this war, at the very best they eliminate a competitor in some way but the world has plenty more waiting.
   The usable land mass of Russia is expanding massively every year, not by invasion of others but their own land sealed in permafrost is becoming available which means even more oil and gas.   Yet like Venezuela's fate they lack the people, the sophisticated industry and efficiency to profit.   War will not profit them or anyone else, the only strategy was to hurt others more then themselves and even this is questionable.

What's the point of the US becoming a member of OPEC ? They're essentially competitors of the US. Therefore, the U.S. plays its own game - its own production, plus most likely there will be oil from Venezuela, plus the U.S. has the opportunity to settle oil production issues with Saudi Arabia. And this is enough to stabilize or even manipulate the oil market. And joining OPEC is unnecessary restrictions and obligations, especially in this "alliance", there are frankly specific countries that, to put it mildly, hate the United States. Therefore, if the U.S. joins any oil union, it will be a U.S.-led union :))
I didn't get that correctly, did you say you hate the US or you just wrote it figuratively?

Besides, it's certain, the US is the world leader and they can't be otherwise somewhere in the energy market, not even in OPEC. But this shouldn't be an issue of debate and the US is not the only powerful country that is not among the OPEC member states, Russia and other countries are included. What baffles me is that the US is not so mentioned when it comes to crude oil, the two most important names often heard are the OPEC body and Russia. This is why the US doesn't have any means to control the crude oil price other than when there is a crisis when the president might give the approval to release some reserves. This is rare though, it's OPEC that majorly adjusts the world oil, and when they cut or increase the pump capacity, every crude oil segment feels it (WTI, Brent Ice and others).

This might be for a reason that the US is being careful so that the world will not say despite the huge power and dominance they have in the world, they are still controlling the energy price to enrich themselves. That's by the way and I was just saying. Still, it is wise indeed if that is the case, and it's good for Saudi Arabia to have her influence in the sector since they have more oil and for being in another continent to balance power and to prove the US's neutrality.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Iroh on December 01, 2023, 10:31:13 AM
What's the point of the US becoming a member of OPEC ? They're essentially competitors of the US. Therefore, the U.S. plays its own game - its own production, plus most likely there will be oil from Venezuela, plus the U.S. has the opportunity to settle oil production issues with Saudi Arabia. And this is enough to stabilize or even manipulate the oil market. And joining OPEC is unnecessary restrictions and obligations, especially in this "alliance", there are frankly specific countries that, to put it mildly, hate the United States. Therefore, if the U.S. joins any oil union, it will be a U.S.-led union :))

There is actually little point of the US joining and becoming a member of OPEC. It would be bound by their rules and regulations as well as production quotas which would probably not go down well with the US.
And like you noted, if the US were to join any alliance or union, I’m pretty sure it would desire to be at the head of such a union. And with OPEC, of which Saudi Arabia is a leading member, interests are sure to clash. While the US produces a shit load of oil on its own as well as having an incredible amount in reserves, I think the US has very little to nothing to gain from aligning itself with the Union. It’s been drilling and the production rate has increased recently and doing quite well by itself.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MegameSama on December 02, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
depending on the conditions, if in stable conditions like most of the world now, agriculture and oil should go hand in hand, there are too many modern tools that require oil as their main fuel, say tractors, trucks carrying agricultural products, etc. If conditions are stable, it seems that oil is more profitable from an economic perspective. but in conditions of war or crisis it seems that agriculture is more profitable from an economic perspective, in unstable conditions countries that do not have food security will die slowly, people cannot eat oil, but agriculture can still grow without sophisticated equipment and oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: shawonngp on December 02, 2023, 03:05:17 PM
Agriculture and oil both of importance for a country, but if you think comparatively, oil is very important for a country, because the transport sector has to fully depend on it, even farmers need to oil to run their rotary tiller, tractor and others machines, and agriculture is more or less produced in every countries but all countries have to be dependent on each other because it's not produced in all countries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: oktana on December 02, 2023, 11:10:56 PM
Both the agriculture and oil sectors are good and recognizable items, and I’m not sure it’s easy to pick one and say it’s more superior because both sectors are equally needed in a community. The agriculture sector will open doors and create employment for people. Also, if the country starts processing its own food, that is also important. This is not much different for the oil sector.

Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.
Hmm. I need to check and learn this.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on December 02, 2023, 11:22:41 PM
No its still possible its just not many products can beat oil for the price.   Coal in theory has a higher calorific value and enables much of the energy however its not as portable exactly despite the higher energy the efficiency is usually less developed then modern engines have become.  Neither is perfect exactly, the Chinese have found other ways to utilize the best agriculture efficiency regardless of energy type by having dual crop growth that compliment each other continually.    Dont ignore solar for importance, LED bulbs are used to accelerate growth in some cases modern farms are not the same simple things they once were.

  If we were going to argue on oil as the energy type for growing food we cannot ignore fertilizer which is another type of fuel type the plants need to grow year after year in the same soil and be as productive as possible.  Obviously we recognize sun as vital and water, all combined make this picture far more then just oil yes or no to success in your crop production.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Ben Barubal on December 03, 2023, 03:22:47 AM
Agriculture and oil both of importance for a country, but if you think comparatively, oil is very important for a country, because the transport sector has to fully depend on it, even farmers need to oil to run their rotary tiller, tractor and others machines, and agriculture is more or less produced in every countries but all countries have to be dependent on each other because it's not produced in all countries.

  I think they cannot be separated because oil is also needed in agriculture. So for me, they are important, and you shouldn't buy just one. Because, in my opinion, if there is only agriculture, there will be a problem because there is no oil.

  Yes, we know that agriculture is really important compared to oil, but like I said, the condition of our agriculture will be better if there is oil included in each country, and the governments of each country know this very well.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 03, 2023, 09:04:28 AM
Oil is a very essential mineral resource, in fact a country can never think without fuel oil. Most of the pumps that are used for providing irrigation in agriculture are mostly pumps but run through oil means if there is no fuel oil then it will affect the agriculture sector but if we compare the two then I will definitely put the agriculture sector ahead. It is a big worry for you that you don't have oil fields in your country because you can buy oil from any country if you have money but the problem is with the agriculture sector. There are some raw materials in agriculture which are usually difficult and expensive to import from abroad. If for any reason food import is stopped then it will not last even a day because people are directly dependent on food. So it seems to me that your country does not have oil fields, it is not a matter of concern for you, but it is a matter of pride for you that your country is rich in agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Suzume on December 03, 2023, 09:15:04 AM
Oil and agriculture both important but oil is more important because we all know the agricultural depends on smart cultivate. To run smart vehicle for agriculture need oil. Without oil we can't run smart vehicles. Thats the reason oil is needed. But if you are thinking about a country economy then oil and agriculture both play a provital roll.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: southerngentuk on December 03, 2023, 09:22:20 AM
The relationship between oil-producing and agricultural nations exemplifies this interdependence. Oil-rich countries rely on agricultural products to feed their populations, while farmers depend on oil to power their machinery and transportation systems. This mutual reliance highlights the interconnectedness of global economies and the importance of international cooperation.

In a globalized world, no single country can claim self-sufficiency. Each nation contributes its unique strengths to the global economy, creating a tapestry of interconnectedness that benefits all. This interdependence extends beyond economic considerations, encompassing cultural exchange, technological advancements, and collaborations in addressing global challenges.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: boty on December 03, 2023, 10:28:04 AM
The relationship between oil-producing and agricultural nations exemplifies this interdependence. Oil-rich countries rely on agricultural products to feed their populations, while farmers depend on oil to power their machinery and transportation systems. This mutual reliance highlights the interconnectedness of global economies and the importance of international cooperation.

In a globalized world, no single country can claim self-sufficiency. Each nation contributes its unique strengths to the global economy, creating a tapestry of interconnectedness that benefits all. This interdependence extends beyond economic considerations, encompassing cultural exchange, technological advancements, and collaborations in addressing global challenges.
This means that every country has good relations in the agricultural sector and also countries that do not have oil revenues need oil to be able to run their machines to be able to cultivate land to plant crops that can be exported to other countries.
Yes, you are right, each country has its own role in contributing to each country's economy and this is interdependence between one country and another and also progress for each country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Davidvictorson on December 03, 2023, 11:44:26 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
When it comes to economic strength agriculture stands far out. It stands out in human capital development. Literally, anyone with a primary school degree can work in Agricultur-- unskilled workers but in the oil sector, it is restricted to only the most educated. In my country I feeling the agriculture can boost the economy if the government pays more attention to it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 28, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

OP, no doubt oil has been talk of the universe but agriculture can never be out of the picture, with the news everywhere, Oil will soon be declining in price, and the rate at which people will be needing it's products will start diminishing, but Agriculture will continue to progress in any country because no one can do without food, countries goods production differs that's to say that individual countries needs each other Agricultural product to be in survive, before this time when oil exploration was not much, the only survival was Agriculture, this takes to a conclusion that Agriculture can be the only source of financing a country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: God bless u on December 28, 2023, 04:55:23 PM
Agriculture and Oil both have their own importance in the Economy of a country. but I think Agriculture can play a more vital role because OIL has a limited supply.
it can end at some point (not so soon but still) on the other hand Agriculture is something that can never end. farming corps.
trees. producing vegetables, rice and a lot of agriculture products.

on the other hand, Oil has been playing an important role in helping farmers in their agriculture as well. running water motors, trackers, and a lot of agriculture machines which as been running on oil.
so as I said both of them have their own importance.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Savagekante42 on December 28, 2023, 09:27:49 PM
You pose a false dichotomy, especially since agriculture today is highly dependent on oil. Fields are tilled with power tillers or tractors, grass is cleared with weed cutters, many crops are mechanized, like modern olive harvesting which is picked by machine, many fertilizers are derived from oil, etc. Without oil, agriculture would not have even 20% of its current productivity.

I totally agree with you,  without oil we can't transport and transportation play very essential role in agriculture, the agriculture level is great and it aid of oil
I can't even imagine how hard it was then with transportation though I was there but with the role oil is playing in agriculture this days I can't attest to to the fact that it wasn't easy


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Baki202 on December 28, 2023, 10:48:46 PM
Agriculture and oil both of importance for a country, but if you think comparatively, oil is very important for a country, because the transport sector has to fully depend on it, even farmers need to oil to run their rotary tiller, tractor and others machines, and agriculture is more or less produced in every countries but all countries have to be dependent on each other because it's not produced in all countries.
However, I believe that agriculture is more important because not everyone can afford a car or other fuel-powered machinery, but in order to eat, you have to find a way to get food. Oil is also important because it is used in transportation because all electric vehicles are too expensive, leaving us with no other option but to use the ones that still run on fuel. If not for mechanized farming people use animals to make ridges because not everyone can afford to pay for tractors and other farm machines. Countries that don't produce oil spend good money to produce and now oil is even getting more expensive  because of all the processes.


Agriculture and Oil both have their own importance in the Economy of a country. but I think Agriculture can play a more vital role because OIL has a limited supply.
it can end at some point (not so soon but still) on the other hand Agriculture is something that can never end. farming corps.
trees. producing vegetables, rice and a lot of agriculture products.

on the other hand, Oil has been playing an important role in helping farmers in their agriculture as well. running water motors, trackers, and a lot of agriculture machines which as been running on oil.
so as I said both of them have their own importance.

If the government have focused on agriculture things would have even been more better than now we know that both of them are of good relevance to the government and for a long time now countries have given to much of attention to oil than agriculture and even places lie Dubai now are diversifying into real estate and tourism and does guys are just to smart. With time they say their is a possibility of oil running dry but agriculture will continue and even improve. Agriculture is like a constant in mathematics. It is just a matter of time electric motors will take over its just left for people to be able to afford.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: harapan on January 08, 2024, 12:20:46 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Agriculture is important as oil,it is almost entirely dependent on oil for almost all it's activities.

Meanwhile,a country's economic growth and development,the both sectors have a prominent role to play together.
Although agricultural improvement is a powerful tool to end extreme poverty and hunger strike.Agriculture impacts the economy because its tied to other sectors of the economy including;supporting job creation and improving economic development.
  Talking about fruits and vegetables,animal feed,natural rubber production,industrial products,pharmaceutical products.Agriculture impacts everyone,everyday.Agriculture offers an opportunity to improve the lives of millions of food-insecure people and help countries develop economies that create jobs and raise incomes. Today’s agriculture also impacts future generations.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bestcoins1 on January 08, 2024, 12:49:39 PM
Agriculture and Oil both have their own importance in the Economy of a country. but I think Agriculture can play a more vital role because OIL has a limited supply.
it can end at some point (not so soon but still) on the other hand Agriculture is something that can never end. farming corps.
trees. producing vegetables, rice and a lot of agriculture products.
Actually, there are many kinds of agriculture and oil when they are the result or when they have been processed, such as in several types of oil that are often needed in life. For example, oil for vehicles and also oil for cooking, which in this case is called gas, whereas for agriculture it is basically separated when each farmer starts cultivating on his own land. Although cooking oil is also produced through agriculture, such as palm oil or coconut, the basic ingredients are in that direction.

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on the other hand, Oil has been playing an important role in helping farmers in their agriculture as well. running water motors, trackers, and a lot of agriculture machines which as been running on oil.
so as I said both of them have their own importance.
The important role of oil in life cannot be forgotten or denied by everyone because oil which is used as fuel for machines used by everyone has become quite important considering that almost all machines require oil if the machine does not rely on a system through power plants. So in conclusion, the two things that are considered important must always be present in life in order to avoid hampering the economic cycle of the local community or wherever that community is located.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fiasem20 on January 08, 2024, 10:08:39 PM
The both resources are good for the development of a nation.The oil resource are refined into petroleum products like kerosene,fuel and diesel.Refined products of oil resources has really powered the light energy because we need fuel to power our electronic appliances,even the agricultural sector also benefits from the oil resources because it helps to power farm equipments which are used on the farm.There are so many countries that produces oil: Nigeria,China, Algeria,Ghana,India etc.Then when we get to the agricultural sector it's all about crop production,rearing of livestock etc.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: radjie on January 09, 2024, 04:50:40 AM
In terms of investment, oil is superior to the agricultural sector, but both are clearly needed for each other.  Agriculture can be managed without oil in traditional ways, but it can still be a source of life for anyone.  For example, for inland tribes, they don't need oil at all because they make better use of the surrounding nature by farming.  Agriculture and oil certainly both have advantages according to their benefits


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: slapper on January 10, 2024, 05:02:56 PM
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Agriculture is important as oil,it is almost entirely dependent on oil for almost all it's activities.

Meanwhile,a country's economic growth and development,the both sectors have a prominent role to play together.
Although agricultural improvement is a powerful tool to end extreme poverty and hunger strike.Agriculture impacts the economy because its tied to other sectors of the economy including;supporting job creation and improving economic development.
  Talking about fruits and vegetables,animal feed,natural rubber production,industrial products,pharmaceutical products.Agriculture impacts everyone,everyday.Agriculture offers an opportunity to improve the lives of millions of food-insecure people and help countries develop economies that create jobs and raise incomes. Today’s agriculture also impacts future generations.
I think about agriculture's oil dependence (from machinery to transportation) and how it affects efficiency and productivity. Doesn't this increase vulnerability? Oil price fluctuations effect agricultural costs, food prices, and economic stability. Still, more to consider. How can we reconcile dependency with eco-friendly agriculture as we move toward sustainable practices?

Agriculture is important for economic growth. I often wonder how agricultural advances support food processing and retail jobs. The sector affects trade balances, exchange rates, and national security worldwide. Your point about agriculture providing pharmaceuticals and industrial products emphasizes its relevance. Not simply feeding populations, but promoting a sustainable, economically viable future. Innovation in agriculture will shape the globe for future generations, right?


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Zanab247 on February 01, 2024, 10:44:16 AM
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Agriculture and oil both of importance for a country, but if you think comparatively, oil is very important for a country, because the transport sector has to fully depend on it, even farmers need to oil to run their rotary tiller, tractor and others machines, and agriculture is more or less produced in every countries but all countries have to be dependent on each other because it's not produced in all countries.
I know that oil bring money to country more than agriculture but the one that help a country to survive most in some difficult time is agriculture because the citizens will be feeding through their crops they cultivated from their farms in the country and they will not like food items in the land.

 But those that depend on oil alone always experience some problem whenever there is a war or crisis in that particular countries they used to supply their oil to make money which it can cause the country to experience disaster that will take the life of their citizens because it will be difficult for people to live with plenty money without food.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on February 01, 2024, 11:05:17 AM
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Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
The importance of oil in a country's economic power is certainly immense. No machinery can run without oil and arable land cannot be prepared without machinery. Suppose I have oil production plant in my country but no arable land in my country then I can trade oil in unique country and buy food grains from there then my cost to buy food grains will be less. So if you think about it, you will see that a country is completely immobile without oil. I can simply say that the importance of oil in terms of economic power is immense.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AirtelBuzz on February 01, 2024, 04:15:45 PM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think both agriculture and oil are important in the economic strength of a country. There are many countries in the world where most people depend on agriculture, such as Vietnam, Bangladesh, India and many countries in South Asia are dependent on agriculture. These countries earn dollar income by exporting the crops produced in their country abroad which plays a major role in the economic development or strength of their country. But nowadays agriculture is also heavily dependent on oil as power tillers and tractors to cultivate agricultural land require oil to run the machines. Oil is used in most of the machinery and equipment used in agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: edy_58 on February 01, 2024, 11:39:04 PM
The importance of oil in a country's economic power is certainly immense. No machinery can run without oil and arable land cannot be prepared without machinery. Suppose I have oil production plant in my country but no arable land in my country then I can trade oil in unique country and buy food grains from there then my cost to buy food grains will be less. So if you think about it, you will see that a country is completely immobile without oil. I can simply say that the importance of oil in terms of economic power is immense.
Yes, oil is of course a very important thing to be able to run machines that can work on land because without oil of course we have to go back to the past by using the help of animals to be able to cultivate agricultural land, each region certainly has its own advantages and disadvantages and for Countries that have oil revenues do not necessarily mean that their countries have fertile land to be able to find plants that can meet their food needs and the same goes for countries that have fertile land.
What you say is very true, currently oil is very important and has something to do with economic turnover.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Z_MBFM on February 02, 2024, 12:55:58 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think both agriculture and oil are important in the economic strength of a country. There are many countries in the world where most people depend on agriculture, such as Vietnam, Bangladesh, India and many countries in South Asia are dependent on agriculture. These countries earn dollar income by exporting the crops produced in their country abroad which plays a major role in the economic development or strength of their country. But nowadays agriculture is also heavily dependent on oil as power tillers and tractors to cultivate agricultural land require oil to run the machines. Oil is used in most of the machinery and equipment used in agriculture.
Yes I agree with you. One is dependent on the other. One is incomplete without the other. In ancient times, people used to fill the gaps of tractors with cows and googs, but nowadays people cannot do farming without power tractors, tractors. And even though irrigation is done using electricity in some places, oil is still used in some places. On the other hand, oil is also used in the cargo vehicles or ships required to transport goods. So oil is required in almost all cases.  Again, without agriculture, our food needs will not be met.  Which will push us to death. So both oil and agriculture are very important for us. There is no alternative to any of these


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cakravothy on February 02, 2024, 01:10:25 AM
online markets aka stock markets in forex or real market offline market. the petroleum market is more promising for big profits. in agriculture or plantations represented by palm oil in this case palm oil. which in the world of developed countries is a lot about because it destroys forests. maybe because in developed countries do not have large areas of land, aka not planting oil palm so many are against palm oil exports.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: sekalitas on February 11, 2024, 03:06:35 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

If we develop technologies powered by sustainable and financially feasible alternative energy sources, agriculture could become the leading economic force. Unlike oil, which is a finite resource, agriculture offers long-term potential. With vertical farming, we can even overcome land limitations.  However, currently, oil holds significant economic sway due to its widespread use in various industries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: BD Technical on February 11, 2024, 04:25:33 AM
Burdwan is dependent on agriculture in almost all countries because if you don't have agriculture, if you don't have some management then what will you eat bro?  Moreover in that case if you are talking about oil then it is ok then you have to generate because everywhere it is not possible to generate from the company.  Because different countries see how much they have progressed from an oil mine in Qatar, we Bangladeshi people of Bangladesh are largely dependent on agriculture.  Because the current condition of Bangladesh is at the rate that the price of oil has increased, people do not think that after a few days.  The use of oil can keep it so normal because the night is gradually decreasing but there is no alternative to oil without oil. Oil has to be used.  But agriculture gives rice to people's stomach. Agriculture you can't do these things because what material will you make from the mill factory.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Vinaa77 on February 11, 2024, 04:36:28 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

If we develop technologies powered by sustainable and financially feasible alternative energy sources, agriculture could become the leading economic force. Unlike oil, which is a finite resource, agriculture offers long-term potential. With vertical farming, we can even overcome land limitations.  However, currently, oil holds significant economic sway due to its widespread use in various industries.
Developing technology that is supported by alternative energy sources that are sustainable and financially viable will indeed be an economic force, because if we only rely on oil in the agricultural industry of course we will have to spread a lot of costs because resources are limited and it will indeed be very profitable if we can manage vertical farming and this is very helpful if we can do it on the remaining land in the yard and this also really helps with household needs in terms of food needs.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Linggajanitra on February 11, 2024, 07:34:28 AM
In fact, agriculture & oil as a pillar that strengthens our economy. The agricultural sector will be very large responsibility in providing community food needs. The agricultural sector can also be a sector that provides the biggest opportunity for labor. If development in this sector will be intended for the welfare of people's lives, then in the context of the state in Indonesia the rural development must be more specifically emphasized for farmers. So far, agriculture is considered as a field that requires a lot of energy, thus exceeding the boundaries of industrial and trade labor (especially other sectors).
For the development of the agricultural sector that supports the welfare of farmers, then an agricultural sector is a production of the sector that must have high economic value.

While oil, is still relied upon as one of the main commodities. Significant changes in oil prices will affect the economy in Indonesia. If world oil prices also increase, in addition to increasing state income, subsidies will also increase. The Middle East region is a producer and export of oil that still plays the main actor in influencing the development of the world oil industry. With the start of oil exports, income and operations from the oil industry have a big impact on the economic situation. This happens because of excessive dependence on oil income and the value of the dollar to change the Arab economy into a revenue economy with an imbalance between production and consumption. Electing and selling oil is not enough indication for a productive economy. Which results in an unstable and fluctuating economic development which implies that a country that is very dependent on oil income cannot ensure the success of its economic development in the long run because it cannot be ascertained about the true amount of the oil revenue that will be received in the future there. However, because the weak political system causes less maximum oil export results for the economy of the producing country. Problems such as corruption, authoritarian government as well as the political system is weak, armed kkonflik and then Arabic waves that increasingly make regional atmosphere more chaotic. This problem is still ongoing and the response of each country is also different.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Assface16678 on February 11, 2024, 10:11:19 AM
I think there's no need to argue which resource is more powerful for a country; not every country can have access to both oil and agriculture, and oil is only located or can be obtained in some regions of the world as it is a rare resource, and around it there can't be agricultural resources. And in fact, agriculture can sometimes depend on oil, as some machines and equipment used for agriculture use oil, which is essential. In short, each country has different resources that could make it powerful, and it's impossible for a nation or country to have all these rare and valuable resources. That's the beauty of the world; it's balanced and equal. But to sum up, oil is more powerful as it can be used to make machines and equipment that can be used for agriculture and other aspects. I think that concludes this argument or topic.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: shield132 on February 11, 2024, 10:26:52 AM
Yes, oil is of course a very important thing to be able to run machines that can work on land because without oil of course we have to go back to the past by using the help of animals to be able to cultivate agricultural land, each region certainly has its own advantages and disadvantages and for Countries that have oil revenues do not necessarily mean that their countries have fertile land to be able to find plants that can meet their food needs and the same goes for countries that have fertile land.
What you say is very true, currently oil is very important and has something to do with economic turnover.
Countries with massive oil reserves don't necessarily need fertile land for agriculture. They can sell their oil to countries that lack oil but have very fertile land and then buy back some products from them, this is why global trading is very beneficial for everyone. Also, vertical farming companies are emerging every day and that will help countries like Saudi Arabia to produce food and don't make themselves dependent on imports.

While we talk about agriculture versus oil, we should not forget blockchain technologies. They add important value to agriculture because blockchain technologies can track all types of information about food.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: martinex on February 13, 2024, 06:05:24 AM
While we talk about agriculture versus oil, we should not forget blockchain technologies. They add important value to agriculture because blockchain technologies can track all types of information about food.

Indeed, the use of this technology can be placed in several places and of course not in all lines and one of them is as you said. Indeed, if we pay attention to the natural resources of each country, they are different and if they were the same, there would not be supply and demand exactly like trading patterns in crypto.

Yes. That is true. The most important thing for me is new food, moving on to oil and others, of course they all have their own correlation and function.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cakravothy on February 13, 2024, 06:39:24 AM
There are people who say that the name black gold is called petroleum. people equate it with gold because the potential to make money is very large and a lot for countries that have large oil refineries. the same is the case with agriculture which is called green gold there is the name palm oil, forest wood and more.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: yohananaomi on February 21, 2024, 07:14:32 AM
There are people who say that the name black gold is called petroleum. people equate it with gold because the potential to make money is very large and a lot for countries that have large oil refineries. the same is the case with agriculture which is called green gold there is the name palm oil, forest wood and more.
It just depends on the situation, everything is clearly very useful, and the only difference is the value. But it is equally needed and cannot be replaced. But perhaps if petroleum is limited, it can be extracted because supplies will be depleted by the exploration carried out, but if agriculture will continue to develop and will always be the main thing for human needs in time.
Although perhaps currently everyone is still prioritizing petroleum because it is very expensive and needed,, but in the future, if there is a substitute, then everyone will switch, as they are now starting to use electric transportation.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: kenpachiofficial on February 21, 2024, 07:30:31 AM
Both agriculture and oil have their important roles to play in the economic success of a country. Countries that have very fertile land for agriculture but low oil reserves can grow produce and trade such products with countries that have abundant oil reserves but in turn don't have the fertile land to grow agricultural produce, develop good international relations with such countries and could also import oil from such countries and vice versa.


International trade plays a good role in this perspective, when you don't have what you need, you use what you have to get what you need from who has what you need but doesn't have what you have and are in need of it.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: leonair on February 21, 2024, 10:58:43 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think both agriculture and oil are important in the economic strength of a country. There are many countries in the world where most people depend on agriculture, such as Vietnam, Bangladesh, India and many countries in South Asia are dependent on agriculture. These countries earn dollar income by exporting the crops produced in their country abroad which plays a major role in the economic development or strength of their country. But nowadays agriculture is also heavily dependent on oil as power tillers and tractors to cultivate agricultural land require oil to run the machines. Oil is used in most of the machinery and equipment used in agriculture.
Both agriculture and oil are very important to us because without either one we cannot survive. so there is no comparison between these two. no country can survive either of these two. Oil will be required for agricultural work and without agricultural products our daily food needs will not be met. so we cannot exclude any of these two from our life. So I don't think there are any users here who can prove that life will go on without one of these two.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Claudeake on February 21, 2024, 01:42:40 PM
Agrobusiness and Petrodollar investment are complimentary components of a Postindustrial economy under pinned by the indices of capitalism. However, what makes a difference or the relative rewards of both are just a matter of two factors; structural trajectory ( neo colonialism / sovereign independent nation), and leadership dexterity.( Comprador class/ Pan nationalist class). Both factors have two variants of clear dichotomy. Thus, the argument goes that in a Neocolonial trajectory, the leadership sect is a reflection of comprador characterizations, so there would be absolute neglect of agriculture and the accruals of the hydrocarbon ( oil/ gas) deposits would be the centre of class struggles and all forms of manipulations. Again, there would be an adverse effects of macroeconomic indices such as; high unemployment, galloping inflation, hunger, misery, want, diseases, ignorance, squalor and disproportionate inequality. The much cherished advocacy and adoption of both fiscal and monetary policies to addressing these social evils are mere fascades . But, in an advance capitalist climes, the leadership class uses the accruals of the oil/ gas to subsidize the cost of agriculture, hence the affordability of both Cash and food crops by all social classes.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AirtelBuzz on February 21, 2024, 01:59:57 PM
Both agriculture and oil are very important to us because without either one we cannot survive. so there is no comparison between these two. no country can survive either of these two. Oil will be required for agricultural work and without agricultural products our daily food needs will not be met. so we cannot exclude any of these two from our life. So I don't think there are any users here who can prove that life will go on without one of these two.
Important in both agriculture and oil.Agriculture and oil play an immense role in keeping the economic wheels of a country moving.The use of oil has been gradually decreasing in recent times with agriculture as those living in South Asia will surely be aware that oil was once used in machines to irrigate paddy fields. With the recent increase in electricity supply, those irrigation machines now use electric motors instead of oil.

There are many countries in the world that export agricultural products produced in their country to earn foreign exchange which helps in the development of that country.Similarly, there are many countries in the world that are completely dependent on oil, such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and some other countries, they have managed to keep their economic wheels moving by exporting oil to different countries of the world. That is why oil and agriculture are closely related to the development of a country.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: coinerer on February 22, 2024, 04:57:09 AM
Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
I think both agriculture and oil are important in the economic strength of a country. There are many countries in the world where most people depend on agriculture, such as Vietnam, Bangladesh, India and many countries in South Asia are dependent on agriculture. These countries earn dollar income by exporting the crops produced in their country abroad which plays a major role in the economic development or strength of their country. But nowadays agriculture is also heavily dependent on oil as power tillers and tractors to cultivate agricultural land require oil to run the machines. Oil is used in most of the machinery and equipment used in agriculture.
Both agriculture and oil are very important to us because without either one we cannot survive. so there is no comparison between these two. no country can survive either of these two. Oil will be required for agricultural work and without agricultural products our daily food needs will not be met. so we cannot exclude any of these two from our life. So I don't think there are any users here who can prove that life will go on without one of these two.
It is true that oil is very important in agriculture, but even if people can live without oil for a short period of time, people cannot live without agricultural products. didn't people live in ancient times when there was no oil or any advanced technology that needed to be driven? But even then agricultural products were needed and people lived by eating them. so if these two are voted, agriculture will be ahead. But in today's world modern technology machines must need oil to run, in this case there is no alternative to oil. so both are very important for us comparatively for present time


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: shinratensei_ on February 22, 2024, 06:07:49 AM
There are people who say that the name black gold is called petroleum. people equate it with gold because the potential to make money is very large and a lot for countries that have large oil refineries. the same is the case with agriculture which is called green gold there is the name palm oil, forest wood and more.
yes basically its the same point with all of them, all of them are gold, just some are not truly renewable but there's definitely should be no undermining toward the vital role of these things for the advancement of human life.
i mean having plenty of oil is great, having bountiful harvest of agricultural sector is also great, but a country need these two for the economic to run normally, i will say that definitely as a country, invest in the betterment of both sector, if it happens that a country have so many oil deposits, thats gonna be great since it could mean that they could just mine it to invest into agriculture.
there's absolutely no point in debating whether oil or agriculture that strengthen economy because its like carriage, agriculture is the seat, oil is the wheel, a carriage without wheel, what it gonna do, just become a useless carriage deserted also a wheel without the carriage on top of it, absolutely have no point, the two is as vital for the strength of economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Volimack on February 22, 2024, 08:48:13 AM
Only agriculture can keep the country's economy moving. Whereas at the beginning of the Corona emergency it was thought that there would be a food shortage in the country, but if the level of productivity increased everything would be possible. The role of oil in agriculture is more important. The economy is heavily dependent on agricultural oil. All agricultural activities are related to oil agricultural machines are powered by oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: NicNacCoin on February 23, 2024, 10:42:01 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
To me, oil can play an important role in the economic power of a country, although agriculture will play a much more important role in that regard. Even if a country is not agricultural, it can be managed by trade from unique countries if that country has enough money to supply. If my country has enough oil resources, I can sell that oil to feed my country, but if my country does not have oil, I will not be able to do any work. So oil has essential important role in all fields of energy agriculture system also oil plays a very important role in economic importance.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MissNonFall9 on February 24, 2024, 01:15:38 AM
Today's development in agriculture would not have been possible if the mechanical revolution had not taken place.
Due to the mechanized revolution in agriculture, the production of agriculture has become possible many times more than what it was before.
Without oil, the mechanical revolution would never have been possible. So oil machining and agriculture are interrelated.
Both oil and agriculture must be sustained if you want to sustain the current civilization. Both oil and agriculture are important and valuable to modern civilization.
From this point of view, it is not possible to go either side of agriculture or oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: teamsherry on February 24, 2024, 11:41:41 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Mate it's the 21 century, we can't really be having this argument, agriculture is a major part of a countries economy if its been used properly and by now you know that normal agriculture without using modernised machined is much slower and the work rate would be high making it an unprofitable sector for business men, in or current world power in term of electricity is one the most important thigns cause every other sector now largely depends on it for productivity, and oil continues to be a major source of power cause its by products are used as chemical fuels, how would the agricultural sector even thrive and be able to produce food on a large scale with using machinery which later depends on oil, even other sector like development and technology still depends on oil, transportation still depends on oil especially large machines that needs high supply of power like airplanes, ships and all the rest.

With electricity many other sectors would reduce in productivity and that is fact.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Mauser on February 25, 2024, 10:39:03 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

In case you have a steady income from high value commodities like oil then you don't have to worry about your agricultural sector. You will always find a country that is willing to sell your food for the right price. Even though many industries are trying to get away from oil to be more environmentally friendly, there is no way that the world is going to abandon the use of oil and fuel any time soon. Countries like in the Middle East that get the oil almost for free, just by opening up the Earth will always be competitive to sell their oil on the world market. It also doesn't really make sense to make large agricultural sectors in the desert with a small population. Better to let countries where the climate is much better to do it and then just export it. The problem with agriculture is that it's labour intensive and highly competitive. In western countries with high labour cost, it's almost impossible to have a competitive agricultural sector. Better to focus on the things where your country is competitive and have a small subsidized agricultural sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: bettercrypto on February 25, 2024, 03:54:52 PM
Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: yohananaomi on February 26, 2024, 07:21:02 AM
Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.
Both are equally important for the continuity of human life, mutually necessary and inseparable. It is clear that you really have the benefits that are needed now and in the future.
But petroleum oil will always have limits and will be used up. Who knows when, but it will definitely happen. Apart from that, the effects of its use are very polluting and not good. That's why we need a replacement that is environmentally friendly and alternatives can be found. However, agriculture will always be needed throughout time and cannot possibly be replaced because the necessities of life must remain available to humans.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Casdinyard on February 26, 2024, 03:52:50 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
Oil is a commodity, but Food is a basic necessity.

Countries like China and Thailand who were once purely agricultural countries 10-15 years ago were now massive powerhouses who are able to carry the whole world's economy and produce section under their shoulders. Why? Food export at the start and then diversifying your ventures later on. China did that in the past, once they got the proper channels taken care of they switched to factory work and production, eventually they also took the field of the Internet of Things and made their very own versions of websites that are available outside their country anyway to further seclude the country within this bubble that they have formed. Albeit it eventually backed fire against them, the whole ordeal made them fucking rich and had it not been for the mishaps of their massive tycoons they would've remained in their seat of power these years.

On the other hand Oil is what made the Middle East exceptionally rich and martially powerful all these years, I mean that's why the US became suckups to the Arabs all these decades. But we're slowly shifting towards renewable sources of production, and last I checked people will still need to eat food for the next hundred or thousand years onwards. So yeah, Agriculture all the way for me. Both solve a problem and both are heavily required in our current setting, but food will remain a need of the people and the planet forever, Oil will not.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MissNonFall9 on March 24, 2024, 06:37:21 AM

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

Mate it's the 21 century, we can't really be having this argument, agriculture is a major part of a countries economy if its been used properly and by now you know that normal agriculture without using modernised machined is much slower and the work rate would be high making it an unprofitable sector for business men, in or current world power in term of electricity is one the most important thigns cause every other sector now largely depends on it for productivity, and oil continues to be a major source of power cause its by products are used as chemical fuels, how would the agricultural sector even thrive and be able to produce food on a large scale with using machinery which later depends on oil, even other sector like development and technology still depends on oil, transportation still depends on oil especially large machines that needs high supply of power like airplanes, ships and all the rest.

With electricity many other sectors would reduce in productivity and that is fact.
I fully agree with your argument that there is no justification for making a distinction between oil and agriculture in the current context. In today's competitive and progressive world market oil and agricultural products are interrelated like tea and sugar.
According to the results of the co-integration tests and Granger's causality tests there is no causal relationship between world oil prices and agricultural products. However their experimental analysis shows that the correlation between agricultural products and world oil prices is between 1% and 5%.
Now it is said that there is a slight price difference and whether or not there is without oil it is almost impossible to produce and market that product with the current modern agricultural technology or the production cannot be increased in any way.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AirtelBuzz on March 24, 2024, 06:49:14 AM
Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Dewiana on March 24, 2024, 07:53:35 AM
Both are important but i think oil is way important. You can grow basic food almost anywhere. Potatoes for example, they grow very fast and easy and we consume them every day. There are also greenhouse products. This tech lets you grow anything anywhere. Let’s just say, if you invest enough time and money, you can grow your own food but if you don’t have oil, you can‘t grow it no matter how hard you try. You can only buy it from somebody else. Oil and gas are the most important energy sources. Without them the civilization would collapse.

Tldr; oil > agri
Currently, Japan is one of the best agricultural countries in the world, they have used advanced technological tools to process their agricultural land, Japan also has high creativity, but they do not have large areas of land, unlike Indonesia, the land area is not comparable to Other agricultural production countries will, however, Indonesia is very far behind in the way of agricultural processing so that a lot of empty land is just left like that. Currently, with advances in technology, the country can boost the people's economy through agriculture so that they don't have to work in industry and mining. What is important when focusing on agriculture is willingness. good water or irrigation


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: boty on March 24, 2024, 11:20:07 AM
Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.
It is true that these two things will certainly be able to provide income for every country that can manage them well and for countries that can manage these two things it will certainly make them a prosperous country and people will be able to live their lives without having problems in the economic sector. It is very important to be able to manage these two things in order to run a good economic system so that people do not have problems in terms of their economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: BD Technical on March 24, 2024, 11:25:34 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.

But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .

No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.

Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?

There are many that depend on agriculture for their food or their economy.  For example, if 95% of people in Bangladesh work and they are dependent on agriculture because if they do not work or they do not collect food, they will reduce their food dependence and they will die for food.  If you look in Bangladesh, there is no such thing, but their economy is fairly good depending on the economy, not only on the economy, but on the workers of our factories in Bangladesh.  But in that case if you notice Qatar Qatar but they've come a long way in developing their oil fields because they've exploited them and they've been so dependent on oil they've gone so far that they've used them and exported all over the world.  In that case, the economy of Bangladesh, which is mostly dependent on mining or any other means, like agriculture, as well as oil and agriculture in Qatar, will need two economies.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on March 24, 2024, 05:36:05 PM
Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.

 They are some countries that solely depends on their agricultural produce for international trades, Malaysia is one country, they built their country with the exportation of palm fruits and other resources too, In as much as oil is seen as a bigger money compared to the agricultural production, It still serve its purpose and is still very important to the world. Agricultural Economics is important because it uses the principles of Economics to understand and solve the problems of agriculture sector. Its micro theories provide answer to questions of farmers like what to produce, how to produce and how much to produce. It tells him about farm planning and budgeting and provide optimal combinations of farming and allied activities to maximize his profits. The macro aspect of Agriculture Economics is important to understand growth and development related aspects, econometric models for policy analysis, national and international trade and natural resource economics. It is a subject related to your day to day news, it makes you understand that most of the political decisions have hidden economic agendas at its base. it makes you aware why people are doing what they are doing. In short it makes you understand life.
   Oil is not about to disappear and there is plenty of it for centuries to come. I don’t think oil production will collapse anytime soon, and by the time it does I think we’ll have new sources of energy. If it would collapse the effect on agriculture would be devastating, at least in the U.S. and other Western nations. Everything from fertilizer, to pesticides, to equipment needs petroleum to exist, and without them production would plummet. And if we they should cease to farm, they will be starvation in the globe. I think every industry is interdependent to each other, each has their importance and effects too.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Winterfrost on March 24, 2024, 07:44:10 PM


Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
agriculture plays it own unique role in improving the growth of a nation and oil has it own function also. Regardless of how rich a nation is in terms of the available oil that's in their desposition, you can't rely only on oil. Producing local agricultural product helps a lot in ensuring that a nation is dependent on themselves and less on others.

If your soil isn't all that fertile to support agro produce, with your oil it's easy to relate with other nation and get some of thier resources from the money you get from the sales of the crude oil. Every resource that a nation has is as important as the other and they are necessary for the effective working and harnessing of the full economic potential of a nation.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on March 24, 2024, 11:59:57 PM
Malaysia also has tourism as well, many do have additional possibilities in their economy besides agriculture.  The most obvious benefit to agriculture is to cut imports or a requirement for reliance on other nations for basic needs of the population.   Malaysia has technology its not nearly an agrarian economy as that perspective would suggest, I think they have many options available for growth within their economic sectors not just one choice which is dangerous if you think about.
  I know someone from Malaysia who works in telecoms for a Japanese firm who are desperate for staff, reason being they are fully capable of fluent formal Japanese speech with customers and that made their labor available internationally through their skills.

Farming crops can fail and over reliance is a dangerous prospect for an entire nation to face as history would reflect.   In the example I gave Malaysia is exporting its labor and Japan has a requirement to import that skilled labor quite often as they famously have a skewed demographic and falling working population.   Not everyone knows this is also true of even China who will suffer consequences of less workers every year, this will alter their economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: dansus021 on March 25, 2024, 03:16:51 AM
Both of them are important atleast for now hahhaha there are so much product that derived from OIL and deal with it that we all depend on this black gold no matter what.

Tho Agriculture is highly important like you have said before because we all need food etc but if I am the government Im also gonna see this sector because oil itseft is not sustainable for the future but food always need in the future so money from the Black Gold gonna use it for research in agriculture


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: eightdots on March 26, 2024, 07:10:31 AM


Agriculture vs oil, which is the big deal when it comes to the economic strength of a country?
agriculture plays it own unique role in improving the growth of a nation and oil has it own function also. Regardless of how rich a nation is in terms of the available oil that's in their desposition, you can't rely only on oil. Producing local agricultural product helps a lot in ensuring that a nation is dependent on themselves and less on others.

If your soil isn't all that fertile to support agro produce, with your oil it's easy to relate with other nation and get some of thier resources from the money you get from the sales of the crude oil. Every resource that a nation has is as important as the other and they are necessary for the effective working and harnessing of the full economic potential of a nation.

It may not be right to choose just one. All resources for a country should be complementary, that is, income should be provided from both agriculture and oil and this income should be permanent. Each resource has its own unique function.

As you said, every resource is important for a nation to use its economic potential. The most important issue is the effective use of these resources and obtaining benefits as a result of this use.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: ferida504 on March 26, 2024, 08:34:57 AM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
In fact, people in countries with larger oil producers do not ignore other local natural resources, but they only care more about the potential for greater income, so they no longer care about income through agriculture. But that doesn't mean they will eliminate agriculture in their own country because they will still look at this sector even if only to meet their needs because the income sector already exists through oil resources.

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But, of course, the agricultural sector, though not given the proper recognition and the required investment is one sector that contributes seriously to the development and dependence of most nations .
The agricultural sector is indeed a very important sector for all countries because it is related to the issue of food and the daily needs consumed by all people. But other sectors such as oil natural resources also need to be considered to make the country's income bigger and more advanced. You can look at the oil producing countries in the world which on average can become more developed, and do not experience excessive difficulties in other economic sectors such as agriculture.

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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
That is quite logical, but countries that have progressed through oil resources can also use small areas of land for agriculture even though the state is not so focused on their own agricultural products because perhaps the government has its own way of making sure that the country does not experience difficulties in agricultural sector.
Agriculture and oil are two things that cannot be separated, in this case palm oil, like in Indonesia, the palm oil industry has a very large and important role in growing the community's economy. So every year there is diplomacy with developed countries to encourage the price of agricultural products in Indonesia, especially oil, to be purchased at high prices. This opportunity continues to be exploited by farmers.so that there is sustainability throughout the international world, advanced agriculture, happy society


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Briankimp1 on March 26, 2024, 08:38:52 AM
As it stands right now I believe oil has the upper hand in this argument though I don’t think it will remain so in the future, Speaking from the angle of futuristic development. I believe the world as a global village is gradually shifting away from oil as a source of energy to more sustainable sources like solar and electricity.

I can also see this futuristic development affecting the agricultural industry positively cause everyday more and more companies and countries are investing and advancing in developing the robotics industry, this will also affect the oil sector because robots don’t run on oil although it will lead to more agricultural production so I believe in some years to come agriculture will surpass oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: cocadalcan on March 26, 2024, 10:43:08 AM
Today's world without oil would be challenging for a moment. And the use of oil in agriculture has ushered in a revolutionary chapter. It is because of this demand for oil that the global energy competition is going on around it.
Agriculture for food production, and oil for agriculture, each element is closely related to each other. Without oil, agricultural production would be greatly reduced. Likewise, if agricultural production declines, food shortages may occur throughout the world.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Albarq on March 26, 2024, 10:44:48 AM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: ringgo96 on March 26, 2024, 01:31:22 PM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
If we examine it, both of them really need each other, because currently in the agricultural sector the average person uses machines and they have to use oil to operate, and currently rich countries have the biggest income from oil, and for agricultural issues we all need food, so both of them are mutually exclusive. need.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: G_Besar on March 26, 2024, 04:48:03 PM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
Agriculture and oil are two things that cannot be lost on this earth because of all the regions in the world, I don't think there is a single person who does not consume agricultural products and also oil. So this must always be there because it cannot be ignored by everyone, especially since the need for food and oil to carry out the production of every important item in life is increasingly needed in today's conditions. So these two things will continue to be consumed by many people forever in order to achieve other, newer things.

If we examine it, both of them really need each other, because currently in the agricultural sector the average person uses machines and they have to use oil to operate, and currently rich countries have the biggest income from oil, and for agricultural issues we all need food, so both of them are mutually exclusive. need.
If we look at it differently from another perspective, we will also need each other, such as rich countries that have income through oil will also use the proceeds from that oil to buy more food from other countries. So that countries that produce more agriculture and food can also benefit from this, even though countries that have more agricultural land also need oil. Because of this, efforts must also be made to be able to cultivate more land in a fairly short time by relying on machines and also the latest, more effective methods.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Yaqs15 on March 28, 2024, 09:24:30 AM
Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.

Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.
Both of them are important, but even with such, I think agriculture is more easier that everyone can easily have access to. In agriculture, you can even practice it in your house since it is defined as the cultivation of plants and rearing of animals for used. with the above definition, even if you are rearing cows, goats or fowls , you are already practicing agriculture and also if you have a garden at the back of your house like orange, tomatoes, mangoes or banana, you are already practicing agriculture and you can not be counted one of the idle ones because you are already having something doing.
Agriculture is very much better than oil because it deal directly with our life


Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.
If we talk about providing money for the nation, both of them are important to the economy of the country. but when you talk about advantage and disadvantage, oil has more disadvantages due to the following;
1. environmental pollution: take a look at area where they are having oil, even drinkable water is hard for them as a result of this oils particularly crude oil.
     In these areas, even farming activities can not do good there because of the lack of soil fertility cause by crude oil activities.
2. crisis: since everyone believe that there is money in oil and high demand, they used to be competition among individuals on how to get access to it, which will lead to high concentration in the area. For example, Nigeria, there are group called Niger delta militant. these group don't always settle with government and security.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: TEBTC on March 28, 2024, 10:28:38 AM
The truth is agriculture form the basic core of any economy yes it true that oil is a big money venture but agriculture play a great role in sterilizing the economy as it creat job opportunities and making food security possible in any economy


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: target on March 28, 2024, 10:40:18 AM
The truth is agriculture form the basic core of any economy yes it true that oil is a big money venture but agriculture play a great role in sterilizing the economy as it creat job opportunities and making food security possible in any economy

During war times, oil makes the country win a war. As for food, they still could trade with some other countries but no country today has no source of food. Even the desert produces some kind of grain already because technology is far developed.

Oil and Gas becomes the most important for the economy, especially in this industrial era. Your planes fly and your ships will sail, that's what oil can do.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Z_MBFM on March 29, 2024, 10:36:40 PM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
No matter how many examples we cite, we will never find a substitute for agriculture and oil. Both the sectors are natural resources and both the sectors are very necessary for us to conduct our daily life and survive. Only a few countries have oil wells so oil is in high demand and agriculture sector is in all countries so its demand is less but both things are very important for our daily life. We cannot replace any of them with other substitutes


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Bushdark on March 30, 2024, 09:09:14 PM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
No matter how many examples we cite, we will never find a substitute for agriculture and oil. Both the sectors are natural resources and both the sectors are very necessary for us to conduct our daily life and survive. Only a few countries have oil wells so oil is in high demand and agriculture sector is in all countries so its demand is less but both things are very important for our daily life. We cannot replace any of them with other substitutes
I don't even see a reason why we have to compare the two important sector together if we are not doing for a particular reason.
We can't dump agricultural sector and go for oil and we can't also forfeit the oil sector for the agricultural sector.
The two work handy and we need to appreciate the government that have huge sum of oil reservoir and larger agricultural production.
It is not easy for a single country to dominate the two sector in a large amount compared to other countries.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: leonair on March 30, 2024, 09:45:53 PM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
No matter how many examples we cite, we will never find a substitute for agriculture and oil. Both the sectors are natural resources and both the sectors are very necessary for us to conduct our daily life and survive. Only a few countries have oil wells so oil is in high demand and agriculture sector is in all countries so its demand is less but both things are very important for our daily life. We cannot replace any of them with other substitutes
To tell the truth, without oil, this world is unsustainable, and without agriculture, our life is unsustainable, so none of these two can be excluded from our lives. I don't understand why the op is comparing the two and voting between the two. I will give equal importance to both because both things are very necessary for us. so there is no comparison between these two sectors. Both things are natural resources given to us by the god because we cannot survive without them.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MissNonFall9 on March 31, 2024, 10:07:32 AM
Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.
I am inspired to add with your statement that the population in our present world is increasing. And our agricultural land is not increasing in that proportion. In this situation there is a great need to increase agricultural production to meet the food demand of this growing population. And for that we want our agricultural technology, with the help of which this designated agricultural land is used, so that it is possible to produce more crops than before and can be given to the people. In that case however there is no alternative to agricultural mechanization. Oil is very important and essential for the mechanization of agriculture. So besides meeting the food needs of a country, there is no alternative to oil and agriculture to meet the food needs of other countries and for economic development. Moreover, I think they work as complements to each other.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: moneystery on March 31, 2024, 11:40:30 AM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people

agriculture and oil, both of which are important sectors in the world. because people still need rice, wheat, etc., for their food and also people still need oil for their vehicles or business needs. so we can't say which is more important because both of these things are really needed by people nowadays and both are potential sectors depending on how the country manages it, if they are able to provide maximum output, they should be able to improve their country's economy through development both/one of these sectors.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Iroh on March 31, 2024, 12:40:01 PM
During war times, oil makes the country win a war. As for food, they still could trade with some other countries but no country today has no source of food. Even the desert produces some kind of grain already because technology is far developed.


Oil doesn’t necessarily make a country win a war with another nation. Obviously, oil would be greatly needed in order to power all the machinery and vehicles but it alone cannot win one the war. Besides, the production of oil could be affected and they may not produce as much as during the peace time. As for food, we all depend on each other for different food produce.
Military strength, allies and weaponry are majorly what it takes to win a war with another nation.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: STT on March 31, 2024, 05:55:16 PM
If we examine it, both of them really need each other, because currently in the agricultural sector the average person uses machines and they have to use oil to operate, and currently rich countries have the biggest income from oil, and for agricultural issues we all need food, so both of them are mutually exclusive. need.

This is good point, some people calculate ratios of prices. Oil vs gold is a classic ratio, part of the reason being OPEC made agreements based on a certain Dollar value, meanwhile the face value drops which gold generally adjust for.  Also Dollar was measured in gold famously for a long time hence oil and most OPEC countries are traditionalists continues to track gold in relation to the value expected in sale of oil etc.

Much earth moving activities, not just farming but also commodity mining itself is reliant on oil.  There has been a slight effort to have some green energy used on sites but the sheer mass of energy required often in remote locations is going to rely on for generations to come I think.    One mining site I know is on one of the 7 peaks, the highest mountains in the world; its hard to beat the dynamics of oil.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: iBaba on March 31, 2024, 06:50:39 PM
If we examine it, both of them really need each other, because currently in the agricultural sector the average person uses machines and they have to use oil to operate, and currently rich countries have the biggest income from oil, and for agricultural issues we all need food, so both of them are mutually exclusive. need.

Well, I quite agree with you and if we are to discuss this matter on the basis of both the agriculture and oil in connection to each other, you would find a reason why both of them are keen and supportive of each other.

However, if you want to break them apart and have one as a priority than the other, I would always advise the government to go for agriculture than oil because agriculture is one fundamental  sector that a lot of people cannot harness completely till the end of life and if you look at the opportunities that are bound in venturing into agriculture, you will agree that agriculture supersedes oil.

Although oil is a big market, especially the crude oil, and it's by-products can be used for a diverse set of end-products for the consumers, but that is not enough.

Agriculture has to do with people's survival through having something to eat. It is only when you are able to eat and understand yourself that you can easily drive on machines for crude oil or agriculture.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: btc78 on April 01, 2024, 09:33:42 AM
very closely related in this century they need each other in the agricultural and oil sectors. we still consume oil every day without a solution in the future, even if there is one, it is not yet optimal with the sound of machines processing in factories, industry which all needs machines, if there was no oil, it would be difficult for the economy to recover because it is a necessity for daily consumption by the people
If we examine it, both of them really need each other, because currently in the agricultural sector the average person uses machines and they have to use oil to operate, and currently rich countries have the biggest income from oil, and for agricultural issues we all need food, so both of them are mutually exclusive. need.

Both oil and agricultural sectors are dependent on each other and are great factors in economic growth. It has been shown that oil and agriculture are positively correlated meaning as one value increases, so does the other one.

Oil takes a part in production and transportation of agriculture which is why the price of agricultural products is also dependent upon oil’s price.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: MissNonFall9 on April 06, 2024, 07:28:50 PM
Agriculture provides food to people whereas oil is a commodity that we need so in this case agriculture is more important than oil.

For me there is no difference or distinction between oil and agriculture. Just as oil provides money to a country, agriculture also provides money to a country, so we have no reason to differentiate between the two. There are different types of edible oils that are produced through agriculture around the world. These edible oil producing countries meet the demand of oil in their country and export it to other countries as a result of which they earn remittances from abroad.
Yes very correct information is presented by your article that many countries in the world have developed oil oil-based economy which includes edible agricultural oil. With your words I am trying to present one more related fact the food supply of many countries of the world is almost dependent on oil and oil has been used in food processing and agriculture. Oil plays an important role in keeping the continuous process of food production running on our planet. Because every farmer wants to grow good crops from his land and to grow good crops ‍so good performance of the machinery used in his agriculture is a very important thing.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: topbitcoin on April 07, 2024, 01:41:47 PM
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Both oil and agricultural sectors are dependent on each other and are great factors in economic growth. It has been shown that oil and agriculture are positively correlated meaning as one value increases, so does the other one.

Oil takes a part in production and transportation of agriculture which is why the price of agricultural products is also dependent upon oil’s price.

Yes, agriculture today cannot be separated from technology. where thanks to technological advances in the agricultural industry, the land managed by farmers has become more productive and efficient in processing it. Although in some areas many still use traditional agricultural techniques for the reason of maintaining their culture.

As food needs increase, the younger generation's interest in entering the world of agriculture continues to decline. The role of technology in the agricultural industry is very important, because if you only rely on traditional agricultural systems that use human power and livestock, food needs will not be met optimally, because at least land management requires a lot of energy and takes time. quite a long time, while we cannot wait for food needs that long, plus there are not too many human resources involved in the world of agriculture. So what you say is true, that currently agriculture is very dependent on the technology industry, and food prices will adjust to oil prices.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: RockBell on April 07, 2024, 08:03:55 PM
Both of them have value, one was important before one. The importance for food started from the beginning and oil came along line with innovation and many more. And the moment the government discovered oil that was the beginning of our problem especially in Africa the attention of the government shifted from agriculture to oil. Because if I could remember especially in my country there was a lot of cocoa and rubber farmers and many more but now we have very few and limited people that are farming cocoa etc and the exportation of those products fetched the government some money that was powering the economy now they don't hear anything except fuel and its just time the era of fuel will come and it will pass. Something will replace, for now oil is one of the resources that is driving some economy.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: AYOBA on April 08, 2024, 02:31:59 PM
We know the oil market is booming and countries with oil resources are really making a huge fund out of it and sometimes they do it at the negligence of another local natural resource.
Yes it is true the market of economic in the country is have a great and prosperity, because the economy of countries  are growths well the countries are making the use of that to generate a huge fund from it. Honestly the oil resources our country is on long perfom like before, I don't is our leaders that are the causes of it not, because with what I'm thinking if to say theirs a good leadership in countries  the market oil resources will not stoping everything will continue booming.
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No matter how blessed a country is with oil minerals, if its agricultural sector isn't working and she has to rely on other country for her food and agricultural resources then in event of war or political differences they might suffer.
Agriculture has to do deal with many things, because agriculture provides defference of oil minerals which is help so many of people's in countries if that should be the case that agriculture is no longer exit no only political it may effect almost all the countries. Morever oil is the resource that drives the economics to prosper that means without oil resources the economy can no more growth as it supposed.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Zanab247 on April 11, 2024, 12:40:20 PM
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Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.
Any country that fight agriculture and oil, will remain slavery to the countries they are getting food items and oil from because they will know that without them such country would not survive in their land. You can see that any country who don't have oil, they will make sure they invest everything in agriculture to ensure they live well more than the countries that have only oil without agriculture.

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Whereas oil can provide help through energy sources and technological advancement, although they also have challenges that can be faced.
Oil can do so many things to help the country that have it in their land, to grow their power supply, waters supply, industry and also boost their agriculture for the country to experience surplus resources in the land, and they will be capable to handle any challenges that will occur because they have all the equipment to deal such challenge in the land.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fiasem20 on May 04, 2024, 12:54:13 PM
Agriculture and oil are important resources that contributes to the growth of an economic.And if I'm asked to choose one I'd choose both because both are important it wouldn't be wise to choose one and neglect the other.Your question sounds wierd tho.

Many countries in the world that are enriched with oil and do make use of the oil as an efficacy to reduce stress and promote productivity of crop.Oil resources are used to power mechanical farm equipment to make the work easier and faster for man and are used to produce fertilizers for productive farm produce.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Moreno233 on May 04, 2024, 01:12:35 PM
Agriculture and oil are important resources that contributes to the growth of an economic.And if I'm asked to choose one I'd choose both because both are important it wouldn't be wise to choose one and neglect the other.Your question sounds wierd tho.

Many countries in the world that are enriched with oil and do make use of the oil as an efficacy to reduce stress and promote productivity of crop.Oil resources are used to power mechanical farm equipment to make the work easier and faster for man and are used to produce fertilizers for productive farm produce.
The country you are in will determine what business will be easy to start and cope with. For countries that have large oil deposit, oil business will be ideal business and with favorable government policies, citizens can easily start such businesses and succeed. As someone from an oil rich country, I have come to understand that oil business offer easy and fast way of building wealth just that the competition in this sector is huge and only the strong can survive it. On the contrary, the agricultural sector have become a very big sector that many people are not paying attention to it. No matter how bad the economy is, people will always eat and that is just how important the agricultural sector is. Now people spend almost 60% of their income on food especially the low income earner, due to inflation that have wrecked so much havoc in the livelihood of people. I will chose agriculture over oil any time any day because I don't just like the stress and noise associated with the oil sector.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: Fara Chan on May 04, 2024, 02:12:54 PM
Agriculture and oil are important resources that contributes to the growth of an economic.And if I'm asked to choose one I'd choose both because both are important it wouldn't be wise to choose one and neglect the other.Your question sounds wierd tho.

Many countries in the world that are enriched with oil and do make use of the oil as an efficacy to reduce stress and promote productivity of crop.Oil resources are used to power mechanical farm equipment to make the work easier and faster for man and are used to produce fertilizers for productive farm produce.
I also think that just choosing one of them will not be effective and wise enough because in fact every country needs oil and agriculture to increase state income and to make its people more prosperous with these two things. So it would be quite reasonable if we choose both for easier and more effective prosperity because oil and agriculture cannot be separated when every farmer still uses machines to plow the land and also to plant seeds. So you have chosen correctly in this case because you already know how important oil and agriculture are in life.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: dothebeats on May 04, 2024, 04:16:23 PM
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Is it really necessary to fight agriculture and oil? because they have the same benefits that are given to every country in the whole world, it's just real talk, This is just my guess.
As in agriculture, it is necessary for human survival, and besides that it also provides renewable resources.
Any country that fight agriculture and oil, will remain slavery to the countries they are getting food items and oil from because they will know that without them such country would not survive in their land. You can see that any country who don't have oil, they will make sure they invest everything in agriculture to ensure they live well more than the countries that have only oil without agriculture.
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Or they will invest in the education of their people to improve their economy. Japan and Taiwan are great examples of these because both countries are neither great for agriculture or have oil wells they can drill, but most of the world's tech are dependent on these countries' innovation and inventions.  :)

Agriculture and oil are important resources that contributes to the growth of an economic.And if I'm asked to choose one I'd choose both because both are important it wouldn't be wise to choose one and neglect the other.Your question sounds wierd tho.

Many countries in the world that are enriched with oil and do make use of the oil as an efficacy to reduce stress and promote productivity of crop.Oil resources are used to power mechanical farm equipment to make the work easier and faster for man and are used to produce fertilizers for productive farm produce.
I also think that just choosing one of them will not be effective and wise enough because in fact every country needs oil and agriculture to increase state income and to make its people more prosperous with these two things. So it would be quite reasonable if we choose both for easier and more effective prosperity because oil and agriculture cannot be separated when every farmer still uses machines to plow the land and also to plant seeds. So you have chosen correctly in this case because you already know how important oil and agriculture are in life.

In a perfect world, you will choose both. Though in reality, you will choose only one of them and choose to import the other in order to sustain your economy and people. Oil countries in the Middle East aren't really self-sufficient when it comes to agriculture, and they import majority of their produce from other countries. They made sure to invest a lot of their money in drilling oil wells and refineries before they sell it to the world. They are one of the leading countries in terms of GDP but they lack fertile lands to support agriculture.

Countries who aren't blessed to have either of these two will have to find something that they can sell to the world in order to import their needs. It's easier to say that you will prioritize both even though you don't have the means to be self-sufficient at it, nor import it in the first place.


Title: Re: Agriculture vs oil
Post by: asarfiar on May 06, 2024, 05:59:21 AM
I can't agree with you, because in earlier days people were totally dependent on nature for agriculture. So compared to now 20% crops were not produced, fields were cultivated with power tillers or tractors, they needed oil to run them. Now paddy cutting and paddy weaving is dependent on machines and oil. Fertilizers and oil-seeds equal agricultural paralysis. Oil is a country's mineral resources that are more important than agricultural resources, Food plays a special role in basic needs, so every country in the world depends on oil and fertilizers for their basic needs i.e. food. Fertilizer and oil producing countries are more developed than agricultural producing countries. Oil and fertilizers play the only major role in increasing production in the agricultural sector. More advanced oil, fertilizers and gas than food.