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Title: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: G.Seed on October 11, 2023, 05:16:07 PM
Hello :)

As you know USA gives a lot and a lot of money to a small terrorist and racist group that currently occupies Palestine and call themselves "Israël".
They think they are "the chosen people" and they should lead the world.
This is not a small amount, we talk about billions of dollars, that could be use for social help, to reduce debt or to reduce taxes.

The terrorist group uses this money to buy weapons and to kill people and also to finance "islamic" terrorist groups to attack other countries Libya, Syria, Irak, etc.

My question is, for American people, are you sure your interest is to finance "Israël" or is it possible that lobbies (for example AIPAC) corrupt your politicians and could push some policies against the interest of American citizens ?



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: af_newbie on October 11, 2023, 06:25:40 PM
Hello :)

As you know USA gives a lot and a lot of money to a small terrorist and racist group that currently occupies Palestine and call themselves "Israël".
They think they are "the chosen people" and they should lead the world.
This is not a small amount, we talk about billions of dollars, that could be use for social help, to reduce debt or to reduce taxes.

The terrorist group uses this money to buy weapons and to kill people and also to finance "islamic" terrorist groups to attack other countries Libya, Syria, Irak, etc.

My question is, for American people, are you sure your interest is to finance "Israël" or is it possible that lobbies (for example AIPAC) corrupt your politicians and could push some policies against the interest of American citizens ?



Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: G.Seed on October 11, 2023, 06:33:56 PM
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Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Yes sure. But this money goes to a terrorist entity who calls itself "Israël". This is the issue.
Do you know about USS Liberty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)
"Israël" destroyed an american ship to accuse Egypt and push USA in the war.
Are you sure "Israël" is an ally for USA ? Or just a cancer ?


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Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia

Why ?
Stop giving money to the crazy jews and USA can make peace with Iran.
Stop giving money and corrupt people in Ukraine and USA can make peace with Russia.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: LucyFurr on October 11, 2023, 07:19:34 PM

Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.

When Russia did the same think they are against it and supported the Ukraine whereas Palestine ask for the same but US is supporting and financing the invasion so it shows the double standards of US.

At the end of the day Innocent lives were taken and the money used to finance is also coming from the innocent tax payers working hard and pay tax to government.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: Hispo on October 12, 2023, 01:24:39 AM
In the end, the People of the United States cannot control what the current administration decides to do with the money collected through taxes. And as far as I am concerned, it does not really matter whether there is a Republican or Democrat president in the White House, the intentions to further support Israel with money and weapons for defense is a bipartisan approach which won't be easy to extirpate from the politics of that country.

At the time, it is obvious Israel depends much on the backing of USA to continue to exist as a State, otherwise, their neighbors would have already taken actions and erased Israel off the geopolitical existence.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: af_newbie on October 12, 2023, 02:59:16 AM

Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.

When Russia did the same think they are against it and supported the Ukraine whereas Palestine ask for the same but US is supporting and financing the invasion so it shows the double standards of US.

At the end of the day Innocent lives were taken and the money used to finance is also coming from the innocent tax payers working hard and pay tax to government.

You got it backwards. Ukraine never attacked Russia before 2022. Russia has been attacking Ukraine since Feb. 2014.

The US is on the side that is fighting (Palestinian, Iranian, Russian) terrorists.

There is no double standard. Israel has been attacked by terrorists on a daily basis. So is Ukraine.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: LucyFurr on October 12, 2023, 04:56:08 AM

Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.

When Russia did the same think they are against it and supported the Ukraine whereas Palestine ask for the same but US is supporting and financing the invasion so it shows the double standards of US.

At the end of the day Innocent lives were taken and the money used to finance is also coming from the innocent tax payers working hard and pay tax to government.

You got it backwards. Ukraine never attacked Russia before 2022. Russia has been attacking Ukraine since Feb. 2014.

The US is on the side that is fighting (Palestinian, Iranian, Russian) terrorists.

There is no double standard. Israel has been attacked by terrorists on a daily basis. So is Ukraine.

Israel retaliate by launching air strike all over the residency of Gaza which isn't acceptable right?

Even US said that don't do that to Israel government but still their sent ford warship to Gaza strip for siege hamas which also affecting the three million civilians.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: G.Seed on October 12, 2023, 09:51:58 AM

Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.

When Russia did the same think they are against it and supported the Ukraine whereas Palestine ask for the same but US is supporting and financing the invasion so it shows the double standards of US.

At the end of the day Innocent lives were taken and the money used to finance is also coming from the innocent tax payers working hard and pay tax to government.

You got it backwards. Ukraine never attacked Russia before 2022. Russia has been attacking Ukraine since Feb. 2014.

Ok now the true story :
- CIA corrupted a lot of politician in Ukraine. Ukraine was know in Europe as the most corrupted country in the world.
- They organised the end of the real Ukrainian government to replace it by a corrupted Ukrainian government working for the US.
- So some Ukrainian protested against this.
- Ukrainian army went to kill them.
- Russia protected them by separating them from the rest of the corrupted Ukraine.

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The US is on the side that is fighting (Palestinian, Iranian, Russian) terrorists.
Iran never attacked anybody. Free Palestine and they won't attack anybody.
You cannot steal people houses, kill them, rape them and call them terrorist when they just defend themselves.



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: Die_empty on October 12, 2023, 05:59:08 PM
In the end, the People of the United States cannot control what the current administration decides to do with the money collected through taxes. And as far as I am concerned, it does not really matter whether there is a Republican or Democrat president in the White House, the intentions to further support Israel with money and weapons for defense is a bipartisan approach which won't be easy to extirpate from the politics of that country.

At the time, it is obvious Israel depends much on the backing of USA to continue to exist as a State, otherwise, their neighbors would have already taken actions and erased Israel off the geopolitical existence.
Israel has been invading Palestine and killing innocent citizens but it has received less media attention. You can only see such news in a few media houses. Abu Akleh a veteran journalist was targeted and intentionally shot in the head by Israeli soldiers and nobody has been held responsible for this brutal action. I don't support the latest attack on Isreal by Hamas but the truth still remains that Palestinians have suffered so much in the hands of Israel.

The US and other Western countries will always support Israel and that is the reason they will keep oppressing Palestine. It is painful to see Gaza stand and suffer alone. The American government have sent munitions and naval warships closer to Israel. Which country has openly shown support for Gaza? But we should also take the case of Ukraine as an example. The support of the US to Ukraine is now shaky, this might also be the case with Israel if the war lasts for a long time. Nevertheless, war is an ill wind that brings nothing but suffering and death, we need peace in Israel and Gaza.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: tvbcof on October 13, 2023, 11:14:51 AM
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Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Yes sure. But this money goes to a terrorist entity who calls itself "Israël". This is the issue.
Do you know about USS Liberty (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)
"Israël" destroyed an american ship to accuse Egypt and push USA in the war.
Are you sure "Israël" is an ally for USA ? Or just a cancer ?

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Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia

Why ?
Stop giving money to the crazy jews and USA can make peace with Iran.
Stop giving money and corrupt people in Ukraine and USA can make peace with Russia.

What's kind of funny is that as one of this board's most recognized 'anti-semites', I actually don't blame Israel so much for the USS Liberty incident.  Yes of course they did it and knew what they were doing, but from what I can see Johnston was the primary perp, though as usual there was a cadre of handlers behind him to were at least as culpable.  Johnson was a corrupt piece of shit, but unlike with Biden he had a functional brain (and presumably a functional anal sphincter) and knew what he was doing.  Back in 1967 'the Jews' didn't have anywhere near the control over the U.S. political apparatus that they do today.  Looks to me like Red-blooded American psychopaths from the military/industrial complex played a dominant role in trying to get this ship 'to the bottom' and use it as justification for the U.S. entering the conflict.



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: Hispo on October 15, 2023, 02:52:05 AM
In the end, the People of the United States cannot control what the current administration decides to do with the money collected through taxes. And as far as I am concerned, it does not really matter whether there is a Republican or Democrat president in the White House, the intentions to further support Israel with money and weapons for defense is a bipartisan approach which won't be easy to extirpate from the politics of that country.

At the time, it is obvious Israel depends much on the backing of USA to continue to exist as a State, otherwise, their neighbors would have already taken actions and erased Israel off the geopolitical existence.
Israel has been invading Palestine and killing innocent citizens but it has received less media attention. You can only see such news in a few media houses. Abu Akleh a veteran journalist was targeted and intentionally shot in the head by Israeli soldiers and nobody has been held responsible for this brutal action. I don't support the latest attack on Isreal by Hamas but the truth still remains that Palestinians have suffered so much in the hands of Israel.

The US and other Western countries will always support Israel and that is the reason they will keep oppressing Palestine. It is painful to see Gaza stand and suffer alone. The American government have sent munitions and naval warships closer to Israel. Which country has openly shown support for Gaza? But we should also take the case of Ukraine as an example. The support of the US to Ukraine is now shaky, this might also be the case with Israel if the war lasts for a long time. Nevertheless, war is an ill wind that brings nothing but suffering and death, we need peace in Israel and Gaza.

I am not sure one is supposed to compare the case of Ukraine and what is happening between Israel and Palestine so easily.
The Palestine-Israel conflict has been a problem which have been going on for generations on the middle east and there are both political and religious implications involved.
On the other hand, the invasion of Ukraine does not have anything to do with religion or factions driven by spiritual pursue, both only because of political ambition of a big country and former superpower. Also, not even mentioning Ukraine-Russia tensions are rather a modern thing, when compared to what is going on in the middle east.
The common factor in those conflict is the involvement of the United States and other countries which other apparent unconditional support to one side.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: OgNasty on October 16, 2023, 06:38:52 AM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map. I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: tvbcof on October 16, 2023, 09:02:17 AM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map.

Firstly, who's this 'we' you speak of?  I feel like the influence of people who are Israelis or who are agents of Israel are largely responsible for robbing me and my country blind in support of Israel monetarily and otherwise.

Secondly, I think you need to research a little deeper into who wants to wipe who off the map and where this desire comes from.  I'm watching this right now, and it doesn't take long to get a picture of some of the hatreds.  Right from the horse's mouth in Adam Green style.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/9DPkRNecVDnq/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/9DPkRNecVDnq/)


I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.

Bullshit.  My lilly-white ass is 'Amelek' just like the Palestinians (Philistines) in the eyes of these freaks.  When they finish up their final solution on the Palasinians my ass is next.  Actually it's on-going right now.  Looks who is driving the deprecation of the 2nd amendment of ordinary Americans with one hand and shoveling military aged 'migrants' in with the other hand.  'Islam is the broom of Israel.' as they say.

The 'whites' are particularly problematic, and you can see it clearly described in the Protocols.  We are in not significantly inferior to 'them' in some important ways and thus pose a danger to their plans.  Schemes originating in the academic 'Frankfurt School' have a similar concern but are more directly aimed at the destruction of the United States.

I left the United States not because it isn't the most likely to resist successfully, but rather because a lionshare of the focus of collapsing the world will be focused there.  It's one of the 'central pillars' so to speak.  If the people of the U.S. can pull their heads out of their asses before it's to late I can always go back.  Else, and probably more likely, I'll observe the smoking crater from afar.

I should point out that I'm not at all looking forward to the fall of Israel because it would scatter the 'smuts' among 'the nations' even more than is still the case now.  I favor a 67-borders state for containment because I am not the kind of person who is in favor of an actual genocide.  Many Israeli's, and especially the genocide enthusiasts, sort of deserve eachother.



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 16, 2023, 11:59:02 AM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map. I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.

Moreover, America seem like the big brother of the world trying to protect those who don't get enough sympathy from their enemies and also plays a big brother role for the christian communities and faithful. Biden has said the US government is committed to supporting isreal against her enemies and that is part of their foreign policy and for those who are friends to US.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: pooya87 on October 16, 2023, 03:29:45 PM
We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map.
It's funny because in the Zionist ideology you (assuming you are not a Zionist yourself) are considered an animal who either needs to be put down like a dog or be used as livestock like camel or something! That is why Zionism is the only religion (if it can be called a religion) that nobody can choose. You'd have to be born into it so that they can keep the bloodline pure.

You guys should seriously learn the basics about the people you're supporting. :D


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: tvbcof on October 16, 2023, 04:22:43 PM
We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map.
It's funny because in the Zionist ideology you (assuming you are not a Zionist yourself) are considered an animal who either needs to be put down like a dog or be used as livestock like camel or something! That is why Zionism is the only religion (if it can be called a religion) that nobody can choose. You'd have to be born into it so that they can keep the bloodline pure.

You guys should seriously learn the basics about the people you're supporting. :D

People who research this a lot, some of them Jewish background, just laugh and say 'Zionism IS Talmud-ism'.  Seems to fit pretty well in most cases.  The idea is that what many of what these people are stirs in elements of pre-Abrahamic religions and also luciferianism/satanism.  That also fits many observations and historical writings fairly well as I see things.  'People of the sacred snake' and such-like are things that some of them actually call themselves on occasion, but they are quick to point out that 'it is complex' and goyim are to simple to understand.

Some say that whoever authored the Protocols of Zion (or 'forged' them) were not actually Jews particularly in a spiritual sense and in fact had just about as much disdain for the run-of-the-mill 'Jew' as they did for the goyim.  Jews are just another useful tool to them.  Some claim that the 6 pointed star had no connection to Judiasim until fairly recently but was a feature of the 'Rothschild' family crest (or sign art), and this family was instrumental in funding the state of Israel into existence.  Where that family got the star is anyone's guess.  My guess is that it was associated with various perceived demonic forces which they fancied.



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: mikeywith on October 16, 2023, 10:58:34 PM
You guys should seriously learn the basics about the people you're supporting. :D

The brain washing machine there is too strong, many of them had their brains washed well enough they became brand new, so you gotta explain it to them like they are 5,  while you would expect these folks who have been around the internet for decades to at least know a thing or two about the real world, but alas, you can't fix stupid.

These folks will argue with you about things you see with your own eyes everyday and claim that they know better than you about your own country all while sitting on thier sofa on the other side of the planet watching fake CNN news.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on October 17, 2023, 10:07:26 AM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map. I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.

There is nothing defensive about the inhumane cruelty Palestinians have been subjected to for decades. America can defend Israel without giving them carte blanche to commit war crimes.

Israel’s security concerns shouldn’t be a pretext for stealing land and displacing people from their homes. Zionists aren’t blowing kids heads off and dropping white phosphorus munitions in densely populated areas because it’s going to make them safer.

The reason why so many Americans support these unhinged murderous racists that run Israel is because they’ve been conditioned through the media’s whitewashing of Israel’s atrocities to think of Zionist occupiers as victims. Then there are those who are just as depraved and share many of the same values as these Zionist freaks.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: G.Seed on October 17, 2023, 11:10:26 AM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map. I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.

This is funny because, I am french, and in France the propaganda is like : "if Israël is destroyed, the next target will be France".


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: tvbcof on October 17, 2023, 12:29:05 PM
Israel doesn’t steal our money. We happily defend Israel because there are those who want to wipe them off the map. I think a lot of military folks think of Israel as a proxy between the US and Middle East. If Israel were to collapse or be destroyed, then next target would certain be the United States of America.

This is funny because, I am french, and in France the propaganda is like : "if Israël is destroyed, the next target will be France".

Kinda true in a way with Israel's so-called 'Samson Option' which is said to target everyone, and the European capital cities in particular.  That little twat Ben Shapiro trying to be all mafia extortionist with is squeaky little voice is pretty much openly threatening to nuke the world if we don't help Israel win this war (and their next and the one after that, etc.)  Sadly the ones who've gained power in Israel seem easily psychotic enough to actually do it.  Israel is like a little dog who's trying to hump your leg, and when you try to push it away it will bite you.

With each of these atrocities which have been going on all through my lifetime Israel, their people, and their supporters show their true colors.  And every time their true colors prove to be even darker than the last.  At least there are a cadre of 'Jews' who see the bigger picture and have the balls to push back, but it I'm deeply concerned that it will be to little to late.



Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: pooya87 on October 17, 2023, 04:43:34 PM
Will Joe be USS Liberty 2.0?
I guess we'll see in the next 16 (+5) hours.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: EluguHcman on October 18, 2023, 10:14:36 AM
I doubt if the USA funding Israel is as a caused lingering to the crisis of today. Instead the USA Joe Biden government funded the opposite side of OP's view the (Palestine's) with a motive to provide the Palestinians the aid to restore part of its assistance cut off during Donald Trump's administration so they can boosten its economy during the last section of their crisis during Trump's era
 but reverse be the case that the Islams (Palestines) used the money to purchase ammunitions and that was why they called for the ongoing crisis because they feels they are prepared to deal with the Israeli's. But however, Joe Biden to clear his mind off the accuse and without being sentimental, he has planned to lay support to the Israeli's because they were taken unaware on the current crisis by the Hamas after he Joe Biden funded them for economic boosting but was used for amors purchases.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56665199

Joe Biden hasn't signed the order to support the Israeli with the aid of funds yet
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-israel-hamas-attack-biden-aid-512553356968

So I would say Palestine's were the terrorists because they beats the drum of the war and attacked of the innocent and defenceless civilians of the Israelis before a retaliation was responded.


Title: Re: To american people : do you appreciate "Israël" to steal your money ?
Post by: Spendulus on October 18, 2023, 03:57:24 PM

Any money spent to eliminate terrorists is money well spent.

Right now America has two military enemies: Iran and Russia and one frenemy: China.

When Russia did the same think they are against it and supported the Ukraine whereas Palestine ask for the same but US is supporting and financing the invasion so it shows the double standards of US.

At the end of the day Innocent lives were taken and the money used to finance is also coming from the innocent tax payers working hard and pay tax to government.

You got it backwards. Ukraine never attacked Russia before 2022. Russia has been attacking Ukraine since Feb. 2014.

The US is on the side that is fighting (Palestinian, Iranian, Russian) terrorists.

There is no double standard. Israel has been attacked by terrorists on a daily basis. So is Ukraine.

All the lying is quite annoying isn't it?

Reminds me of ....

Reminds me of ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg