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Title: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Ebiokpobo on October 12, 2023, 12:12:44 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: bhadz on October 12, 2023, 12:14:57 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Welcome to the forum, make sure that you read these guidelines for your reference and you won't make a mistake by breaking some forum rules.
  • Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)
  • Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Charles-Tim on October 12, 2023, 12:17:21 PM
Read the sticky threads on Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0) and beginners & help (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=39.0).

You will see the sticky threads as the first topics (at the top) on each board.

Edit:
You have created similar topic before. Why this again. If you do not take time to go through all the boards on this forum one by one and see how the topics there are, you may not understand this forum.

If you want to rank up, start posting something meaningful and useful on the boards that you like. The more you stay the more you will understand more about this forum.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Cantsay on October 12, 2023, 12:19:03 PM
How many times are you going to create this type of thread? When you created your account you created this thread;  Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738.0) and I’m sure you didn’t even bother to go back to that thread and read the replies that were made and I believe the same thing is going to happen here.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Lucius on October 12, 2023, 12:19:57 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Why ask the same question again if you already got the answer/s?

Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738)

I don't understand if the problem is that you don't understand how the forum works, you have some doubts about what Bitcoin actually is, or you were told that you can make some money here and now you're wondering how to do it?


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: BRINIRHA on October 12, 2023, 01:04:46 PM
When you can create your own topic then that is a good step. The next step is to try to reply to people who provide suggestions and responses to your topic. And if you can do it. Then you just have to obey all the rules in this forum. By reading the guidelines and rules of this forum. So that you understand what you can do and what you can't do.

So for starters I think you should spend more time to read the forum rules slowly. After that, start exploring the boards that interest you. And because this is a bitcoin forum, of course you also have to learn about Bitcoin and crypto. After that, start discussing more actively in this forum. Don't hesitate to ask if there is still something you don't understand. But try not to repeat the same question unless your previous question has not received an answer. The point is, don't spam and don't go off topic.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Botnake on October 12, 2023, 01:19:03 PM
It seems like you've created two threads with similar content. It might appear that you're eager to learn about this forum, but you've made a mistake because what you created could be seen as a duplicate post, not literally, but in terms of content.

Since they've already suggested some tips on how you can learn, I'm sure that's a lot to read, but you'll be happy if you're really interested.

I'm just curious, can it be my turn to ask? What brought you here? I mean, did anyone tell you that you can make money on Bitcointalk?


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: YOSHIE on October 12, 2023, 01:23:09 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Just as those who come here as beginners, many of them are not immune from learning and have a strong desire to learn everything on this forum, so do I, a basic beginner, OP there are many things you can know here, especially about Bitcoin, especially crypto, where little by little, day by day everything you want to know will be achieved, as well as the achievements you get.

OP, in this thread I see there are many things that have been given by other members who have come to this thread, in essence: you have to believe and learn about what you want to know, Don't hesitate to ask what you don't know and give your ideas here which are meaningful to other members here, that way you can easily find out about the journey in this forum.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 12, 2023, 01:28:46 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Why ask the same question again if you already got the answer/s?

Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738)

I don't understand if the problem is that you don't understand how the forum works, you have some doubts about what Bitcoin actually is, or you were told that you can make some money here and now you're wondering how to do it?

It seems that some newcomers coming to the forum not only do not know how to read but also do not know how to watch. Aren't there enough topics open, like "I don't know how to start"? I would like to create statistics on the number of people who do not see or read at all, and what will happen to them in the future. I’m just sure that those who are really interested in the forum, crypto, and community life will cope with the first steps on their own, and we see good participants. But people like this OP are just random guys who aren't even worth wasting your time on. But people, like parrots, write the same thing from topic to topic, offering ways and materials for reading. What's wrong with you, OP?


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Eureka_07 on October 12, 2023, 01:43:10 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
First thing that you might want to learn is read replies on your thread. Have you ever read the replies from your first post? You have to use some of your time to read and navigate. Your interest seems to be on and off.
Welcome to the forum though. Go to the Help menu too and navigate through the page.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on October 12, 2023, 01:50:01 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

You have created an account and already created a thread in an appropriate section. So, I believe you already started to understand how it works. I am sure you will understand almost everything in a couple of weeks if you stay active in the forum. Now if you want some suggestions: I will suggest you read more and more. Don't write too many posts and do not create unnecessary threads if not needed. Dig out threads and read more to know things and get familiar with the forum. The only way to gather knowledge is to explore the forum and ask questions only when you do not understand something.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Shamm on October 12, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Good day Op welcome to the forum as a newbie like you you need to understand what is this forum all about and what are the does and don't here in our community, and as a newbie all I can say or advice is you need to follow the Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) in order to grow faster and avoid some mistakes cause once you made a big mistakes then you will be face the consequences here in forum.
Also you can read the  [SEPTEMBER UPD.] Beginners & Help Encyclopedia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0) made by  one of the best contributors here in forum  @Ratimov. This thread by ratimov is your guide to gathered  more knowledge.


Op good luck to your journey here in forum and once again welcome to the community.





Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Ruttoshi on October 12, 2023, 02:54:18 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
OP, if I am not mistaken, it is 6-7 weeks now after you created similar topic on the 27th of August, and you still came here to ask the same questions on how to cope with the forum. This shows that you are not learning or trying to add effort on learning, if not by now based on the response that you got from your other thread, you should have understand a little of how things work here.

It is you choice to remain as a newbie or to grow your account by exploiting knowledge from the forum. I don't see that zeal in you to learn and grow here, if not by now, you should have understand how to go about in this forum.

I wouldn't give you any article to read or advise because a lot was given to you in your previous thread, so ho back to that thread and read every article that was provided for you. You can start from there if you are serious to learn and understand.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: goxcraft on October 12, 2023, 03:07:43 PM
Welcome to Bitcointalk. Read these thread in order to understand how bitcointalk works :).

  • Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)
  • Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)
  • Bitcointalk Posting Etiquette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184741.0)
  • Make Your Topic Title, Posts More Attractive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182260.0)
  • Campaign to Improve Posting Quality for Local Boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5409763)
  • Topic Title Style Guide (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.0)
  • [GUIDE] Bitcointalk Forum Etiquette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136703.0)


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Majestic-milf on October 12, 2023, 03:44:43 PM
How many times are you going to create this type of thread? When you created your account you created this thread;  Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738.0) and I’m sure you didn’t even bother to go back to that thread and read the replies that were made and I believe the same thing is going to happen here.
And that's just the problem with them.  ::) No time to read and make research, just come up to the forum and create a thread as if we need to be reminded they are noobs. As of the rank beneath their names doesn't say it all.
My question to the op; how do you expect to learn if you take for granted these little things? Honestly, if you couldn't gain a thing or two from your previous thread and still felt the need to create a topic for the same thing, then I feel these guides other users have provided for you will be useless.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: komisariatku on October 12, 2023, 03:54:19 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Many senior members will provide you with links regarding forum rules. Hopefully you have time to read it because it is important. This forum is quite strict and if it is violated it will have a bad impact on you.

A little advice for you, that this forum strictly prohibits all forms of plagiarism and you are also not allowed to use AI to comment. Become a regular member and write down letter by letter every thought or opinion you have. There is no way to speed up your account ranking, so enjoy the forums and discussions. Everything will be fine if you have no intention of cheating here. Welcome to the forums


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Fiatless on October 12, 2023, 04:01:11 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
One of the ways things work here in the forum is that when you create a thread with the aim of getting any information, it is expected that you go back to the thread and read all you have been told. This is the way you can learn and grow in the forum. From your post history, you have asked similar question before and the thread has about two pages. I doubt if you went back to the thread to read all you have been told. If you did that, I don't think you will still duplicate such questions. You have to understand that this forum has zero tolerance for spamming. I want to also add that you should avoid plagiarism and the use of bots to make posts. Plagiarism will lead to a permanent ban, therefore ensure you reference the sources of your posts. I hope you will spend time to read the information you will get from this thread.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Faisal2202 on October 12, 2023, 04:03:43 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Welcome to this forum, I hope you will love your time here and will learn new things and BTC technology will open new gates of opportunities for you. It all depends on you, and how you take this forum. This Forum is full of wonders, especially then, when you get to know the role it has played in the BTC development. And for that, I recommend you to read this thread:

  • The most iconic bitcointalk threads. History on Bitcointalk. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4322078.0)

And further, if you want to know the norms and regulations of this forum, then the following threads will be of great use to you. All you need is to spend some time reading them if you really want to get some respect from here.

  • Comprehensive guide to Bitcointalk. Newbie friendly + calculator and infographic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2534500.msg25841174#msg25841174)
  • [SEPTEMBER UPD.] Beginners & Help Encyclopedia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0#post_point118)--> This is an encyclopedia made by Ratimov and you can find all the relevant topic in the link.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on October 12, 2023, 04:03:54 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
You are welcome mate.

This is a forum where all cryptocurrency discussions take place. You’re in a safe place. This is the most reliable source of information about cryptocurrencies. However, follow the rules and regulations of the forum. People who commented before me have already provided you with some helpful links that will guide you through the forum without any problems if you follow what you see.

Don’t plagiarise. This is the most common thing newcomers do here and get their account banned. Don’t copy anything online and claim it as your own. If you are caught, you will have your account permanently banned, so be careful. And again, don’t hesitate to ask questions; anything you don’t understand, ask, and they will guide you.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on October 12, 2023, 04:06:56 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
First of all I would like to thank you for coming to Bitcoin forum. Since you are new and don't know many rules and how to work here, you must devote enough time here. When you donate enough time here you will learn all the rules and how to post by yourself. But you have to press my advance advice well here no plagiarism or scam. If you do all these things then you will not be able to survive in the forum. Surviving this forum is hard and easy. But all these things will depend on you. Hope you have a great journey here.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: sokani on October 12, 2023, 04:24:25 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time here. I can see that you have been supplied with some useful links, do well to go through them and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. I find The Beginners and Help Encyclopedia (http://url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364418.0) as a very rich resource center that's very helpful. It's a collection of topics written by different users on the forum, you can go through it and read topics that you find interesting. Before creating any topic always make use of the search option to check if there's an existing topic.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Fara Chan on October 12, 2023, 04:49:21 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Welcome to this forum OP, and it is very appropriate for you to ask here because in Beginners & Help there are several topics that have been pinned which are some topics that really need to be read by everyone, especially by beginners like you . So it is part of the procedure and help for everyone so that you can also read it and start to understand it slowly until you can really understand it. Because here everyone also studies diligently enough to be able to find out things that are still difficult for them to understand.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on October 12, 2023, 06:15:52 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
You are welcome, mate. I can see that other members have provided you with a lot of links that will guide you in this forum, so I don't think I have any others to give you apart from what they have given you, but all I have to say is to go through those links one after the other, and it will really be a great help to you. I believe if you can go through those links and try to understand them, I don't think you may have much trouble in the forum. Please take your time and go through them well. Getting started is not all about the forum, but where do you end? There are many people who started well, but where are many of them now? Many of them are banned because they try to play smarter and go against forum rules. Bitcoinforum is not hard if you abide by the rules and regulations of the forum. Learning is a gradual process, and if you understand that, you will find it easy to continue learning.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Antotena on October 12, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Before u are caught up in one of the dangerous landmines in this forum, I will advice you to avoid plagiarism and by that, I mean don't copy and past other people information on this forum without giving them proper credit, give credit and original author a source link for people to follow up.

Check for local boards, you might see your languages and communicate better.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Crypto Library on October 12, 2023, 08:26:13 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
First of all I wanna welcome to  you on this forum. How the forum works I will tell the purpose of creating this forum - this forum was created mainly for Bitcoin (Cryptocurrency) related discussion or to help each other.
Also I think you already understand a lot of forum because you managed to open a topic in this forum. The reason for saying this is that by specifying the issue you are facing or do not understand, you can learn about other mechanisms or issues from the members of here by creating more topics like this. And besides, many people have given the links of many important topics above, you just have to read them patiently, only then I think you will understand the mechanisms of this forum.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: SatoPrincess on October 12, 2023, 10:31:12 PM
Welcome back to the forum, your last thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738.msg62756557#msg62756557) which composed of the same question[url] is only a few months old, even though you were not active after making the thread, it’s only logical that you would at least reply to the comments there instead of creating a new topic. There’s nothing new to be said that hasn’t been mentioned before, I suggest you go through each reply and read the links provided by other members.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Accardo on October 12, 2023, 11:15:19 PM
Nothing extra ordinary from the above responses. Other than that, always think of being authentic in the forum. Don't hide any skill you've got. Writing is the primary function of the forum members. That is teaching, asking questions, and learning from getting answers. Here you'll be exposed to the complete bitcoin details and information. On the journey of advancing in the forum, you'll notice how rich you're in bitcoin information. Discussing about bitcoin, is what we do. The rules like they said, you should read and understand them. Before creating similar threads. That can meddle the growth or value of your forum presence. Though, it's left for you to advance in bitcoin. Regardless of your forum growth. But, as a member who wish to participate well in the forum. Then it's of importance to be consistent in the forum. And visit the different boards of the forum. Looking out for threads where you can fit into and add more meaning to the discussion. Be ready to read through some responses, before contributing on the thread. Saying what's not related to the discussion convinces members of an accounts usage of AI to write. It's wrong to write here using AI. The forum encourage genuine work, giving out quality human written information. Thereby, AI, and copy paste is a punishable offense. They also vary in punishments. Depending on the extra information tagged to the account, if its not conducive to the forum system. The forum admins have the authority to punish a member who breaks their rule. Top trusted members, contribute by dropping multiple bad reviews on the person's profile. Helping newbies not to fall prey to them, business wise. Do your own research, is echoed in the forum, often times. Meaning that we as members, need to check through other members who are vendors. Before patronizing or lending them funds.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Cantsay on October 13, 2023, 05:47:28 AM
How many times are you going to create this type of thread? When you created your account you created this thread;  Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738.0) and I’m sure you didn’t even bother to go back to that thread and read the replies that were made and I believe the same thing is going to happen here.
And that's just the problem with them.  ::) No time to read and make research, just come up to the forum and create a thread as if we need to be reminded they are noobs. As of the rank beneath their names doesn't say it all.


The thing is that forum members do not bother to read the replies of thread before they drop their opinions.

It was stated that the op has created a similar thread before and didn’t use resources that were given to him in the first thread meaning that if they should given him more links to resources here they (the op) still wont use them.

Yet we still have people come to the thread and still giving him more links, which means if the op should still create an additional thread seeking for help from forum members despite the two that already exist we will still have members that will give them more links.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Z_MBFM on October 13, 2023, 01:31:15 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Why ask the same question again if you already got the answer/s?

Am a newcomer here please help and guide. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464738)

I don't understand if the problem is that you don't understand how the forum works, you have some doubts about what Bitcoin actually is, or you were told that you can make some money here and now you're wondering how to do it?

It seems that some newcomers coming to the forum not only do not know how to read but also do not know how to watch. Aren't there enough topics open, like "I don't know how to start"? I would like to create statistics on the number of people who do not see or read at all, and what will happen to them in the future. I’m just sure that those who are really interested in the forum, crypto, and community life will cope with the first steps on their own, and we see good participants. But people like this OP are just random guys who aren't even worth wasting your time on. But people, like parrots, write the same thing from topic to topic, offering ways and materials for reading. What's wrong with you, OP?
I have seen this similar topic several times I don't know how newbies get this forum address and for what purpose they come to this forum and if they open an account here knowing about this forum then why do they ask these stupid questions here. I have not come to this forum for a long time but after browsing this forum I realized that some users post many fake stories to gain merit. But I am confused why newbies ask such stupid questions again and again without use there time to waste others time


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: qwertyup23 on October 13, 2023, 11:43:33 PM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.

Think of this platform as like any other platforms where everyone socially discusses with one another. The difference is, this forum is the biggest cryptocurrency forum where everyone is free (as long as it is within the forum rules) to share their thoughts, ideas, and tips for everyone.

In addition, this forum also has an advertising system called "signatures" where people can freely advertise their projects or services to one another by hiring people to represent such signature called a "signature campaign."

If you truly do not understand, then the only way for you to experience it fully is to try it out for yourself! Do not be afraid to navigate and check every boards for you to have a better understanding on them.


Title: Re: I'm a newbie and i don't understand how this forum works.
Post by: Out of mind on October 14, 2023, 09:29:18 AM
Good day everyone, I'm still a newbie to this forum and I'm yet to understand how the platform works, and I'd like to get helpful tips on how to get started, so I'm asking the senior members of the forum for assistance.
Hello Mr. OP, Congratulations as you are a newbie in this forum. Firstly, you must have come to know about this forum from some person or the other. If I am right, then surely you have found out from your friend or some person in bitcoin forum and know the details well from him. It will help you learn a lot and take advice from those people to guide you well. I think since you came here to create a topic, you probably have some knowledge so you guys keep spending on the forum. You have to read and understand different ways to learn about Bitcoin and this form of communication, but you can learn. Also, I think if you spend enough time on this forum you will soon earn income and good knowledge about bitcoin and crypto. As you may not know from where you will learn, so I am giving you some guidelines, just follow and follow them to gain some knowledge.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631151.0