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For me Simple we did correction when btc was 60k
So now rates are up but they can't keep it up longer.
It's time for me buy i wait for Fed to start.
When all down we just have to relax and wait for Fed they Will lower rates always when markets down.
So buy and wait for Fed
Anyways let's relax when fed pump our bags again because economy is pmp and dump wait for pmp then wait for dmp

If they dont start printing money i'll send send them letter to tell that they should start.

That last line is worth a merit as I actually laughed a bit.

Thank you it went well with my morning coffee.

Money printing and inflation can be one of the reasons for the increasing value of bitcoin, but if there there is no inflation (but which we know that it is not possible), the price of bitcoin will increase. What will lead to the increase is more about bitcoin price increase sentiment that most people has already have for bitcoin halving and spot bitcoin ETF. Even if United States government tried to strengthen dollar, it can not beat the coming bull run.

Good try making it simple. I think it would be good to tell the instances when they'll start printing more. WW3 is becoming more and more real with all the conflicts from Russia-Ukraine to the tensions in the middle east started by the Hamas attack. The West seems to be increasing the tensions between countries with territorial disputes in the South China Sea also as part of their proxy war against China.

There are news that Biden may asks for another $100 Billion for military aid to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan so there goes your money printing spree.

Investing in BTC and Gold/Silver could be the best move now before things turn even more ugly.

Understanding the global economy is indeed very difficult the global economy continues to slowly recover from the onslaught even after the pandemic and Russia's war in Ukraine have damaged everything. The signs of progress in the near term are undeniable it will take time to understand the economics so you are right it is better to invest in bitcoin and gold as it will increase in value as time goes by. The global economy will have no impact on bitcoin. Gold in many cases this precious metal became the determinant of the property and influence-prestige of a large section of the society. But it is also a great way to invest in future protection and savings bitcoin is considered as a long-term investment option it also has guaranteed returns.

The hard part is that when WW3 happens, it should not happen because many people will die and be affected for sure. Not only financial, but even the entire economy of the country is affected. I am even praying that the ongoing war between Hamas and Lebanon will end now.

Then the US is like that: when their debt increases, they just print more of their money even though their dollar fiat has no backup reserves. Because they go through high interest rates, that's why they are still being loaned because of those offers.

How would you know if they already started? Lower rates? I mean how you would know if they start buying?

That's the spirit, I don't know how usually you do this or you really have got the balls since it's just a letter or what. But we might actually see them print more money soon.

With what's happening in the world and the promises and pledges that US is telling to their alliances that are in war, they need to have more cash.

You don't need to see all the countries fight at once before you will know that WW3 has started gradually. Imagine for how long that Ukraine and Russia war has last and now it is Is real and Palestine. Who knows when this one will last and if there is going to be another two countries that are rival to each other start another war again.

It is obvious that money printing will be the next thing that the US will do since they have focus more on war and they will need funds to support the ongoing wars.

I don't know exacly but i see rates are high so at some point they Will come down.
They can't stop the financial system is atticted.
And USA can print money it's backed by oil demand and war creates huge oil demand so they don't just print from air but for world huge demand of dollars.
But they said the yanet yellen it's not problem they can afford 2 wars for USA they can support.
This time they Will do Even bigger print then covid 19 times.
Also need to finance derivates reservers the financial system wall Street the funding of short and long positions the maintance of the exchangers it all Takes money aswell.

So AS it always we wait just fed money i don't mind If they make it Big Im waiting with my memecoins btc and gold Im ready for rockn rol

Money printing will increase inflation and you see investors bidding for btc more and you know what will happen? the price of bitcoin will soar and if the printing takes place during the halving then expect a super bull run and nothing more because that will further increase the demand for bitcoin, we are going to have higher pumps. Moreover the trouble of wars around the globe is already increasing anxiety in global economy.

I don't focus on war i focus on numbers on Screen and how they going up and money comes in my pocket i might send thanks letter to fed to say thanks them to pmping up my bags again


Fed never LET us down :)

Fed decreases interest rates and BTC starts pumping again. And last time I checked it was predicted to happen this year or next year, what totally matches with the next Bitcoin halving, boosting the growing potential for BTC a lot on the following 2 years. I'm sure speculators and whales are aware about it and won't waste this opportunity to make big profit. So, minor investors like us must be prepared as well, holding most coins as possible to take advantage of the next cycle in crypto market, which may be a life changer for many of us here.

It's slightly more complicated than that. It is true that the increasing interest rates prevents other markets (including bitcoin) from rising but it is a rule. For example the reason why it did this time was because the increasing interest rates first caused recession which means people don't have any money to invest and they also need to liquidate their assets to cover the cost of living they can no longer cover through other means. And second it created an alternative investment option for people to take their money there (the government bonds) to get a decent amount of "interest" out of it.

Here are the exceptions to that rule:
- Increasing interest rate at some point will stop being able to deepen the recession. So we may see increasing interest rate while recession is just as terrible as it gets!
- At some point people would stop trusting the government putting its hand in their pocket and would not be interested in buying those bonds as much as they are interested in buying other stuff. Which means other markets would see capital returning to them.
- There is also inflation that is happening alongside all of this and inflation causes price of everything to go up (that includes bitcoin) which means even with increasing interest rates we are bound to see bitcoin price go up at some point.

Lebanon? I thought they were fighting Israel and not Lebanon. In any other way, even if the war doesn't happen in your own nation, I feel like your nation may get inflicted about it as well. Just look at USA, we see them as a rich nation and a powerful nation but that is the rich people and not the ordinary citizen.

Because of the Israel war and the Ukraine war, they have spent way too much money on military and war efforts to help their allies, and that money went out of ordinary peoples taxes, that tax should have gone back to people who paid it, but instead went to people in another nation. That is not what they wanted, did any American die? Of course not, but they still got a lot poorer because of it. That is just example of one nation, there are many nations and many citizens that got in trouble because of these wars, and that doesn't have to be regarding fighting, they just got into trouble financially because this war is going on and that's a side effect of wars.

The greater the money printing they do, the greater the opportunity for inflation in the future. If it is not controlled, this will be a double-edged sword for the US. Well, I don't really follow this, the only thing I notice is that when the Fed lowers the interest rate, that's when we get money. On the other hand, if the Fed raises the interest rate, that's when I have to buy. I'm sure everything will come back. If you feel the dollar is no longer attractive, then everything will come back. to Bitcoin and Gold.

FED can not control all things globally and even in their country, the USA. they failed in the past and are struggling to control inflation, purchasing power loss of US. dollar.

The two wars, Russia - Ukraine and Israel - Hamas (Palestine) will bring more challenge to FED with many things they did not expect and even can not imagine.

It's FED tasks but our tasks are more simpler. Buying Bitcoin, DCA Bitcoin and hold it.

Well, that's the sad truth that we're seeing on how they move these days. Funding the on going wars left and right, instead of giving and focusing help to their own people.

Aside from printing money, we have already seen that Bitcoin has already made a great 20% in less than 7 days. So, there's no FED yet involved on this one just as you're saying.  ;D

We will have to see that happen with all of the factors that are circulating to Bitcoin, this is giving more optimistic thought aside from the fact that the halving is about to come.

It's not that much easy to understand the economical condition of every country. Everyone know about global village that connect every country in a internet. World economy is such kind that. World economic depends on every country because every country depend on other countries for living and other helps. If there is a war in a country there is many country who faces a big problem economical problem and the price of many items increase. The main reason of increasing price of item because they take supply from other countries because of war in a country there is a shortage supply  of the items. You can see Russia and Ukraine war many country face many and some problem . Increasing price of oil gold etc. That's the reason world economic depends on every country because every country don't production everything they have to depend on the other country for that.

Exactly, a correction occurred when BTC reached 60k. Corrections are inevitable; they do occur perpetually. Regarding rates? They both ascend and descend. Such is the creature's inherent disposition. However, can they maintain it? Presumably not for an extended period of time

The Fed now... Howdy, the Fed. They are the game's major characters. They intervene when circumstances deteriorate negatively. They consistently do. Reducing interest rates and manufacturing money constitutes their signature maneuver. So, you intend to purchase while you await the Fed? Absolutely not a terrible strategy. However, keep in mind that the economy encompasses more than mere pump-and-dump operations. It concerns cycles and patterns, specifically recurring patterns

Sending a letter to the Fed? Ha! That's bold, very bold. However, one must at times speak up in order to be heard. Simply ensure that you are prepared for the roller coaster. Hold tight, and let's see where this ride takes us

The increasing need for spending and the feeling that there is division among some countries will force more countries to spend, but the problem is always inflation, the rise of which leads to an increase in all prices, which may reflect negatively on individuals. Therefore, I expect that interest rates will not be reduced until the first quarter of next year, from which it will begin printing money and recovery for all markets.

The economy, as simple as it is, is so intertwined that any change without calculated consequences will lead to disaster.

We must also not forget the intersection of economics and politics, which may affect individual decisions.

Maybe not. The perfect time for buying is never when there's panic in the market not when there's greed but for those who haven't joined the wagon when there's panic they can still buy now.

In the next few years after the approval of the Bitcoin spot ETF, I believe we are going to see a lot of market manipulation from the ETF holder to get benefits they once missed from the market and I wish people wouldn't sell their BTC to their spot ETF.

Don't forget to add a P.S. to your letter. :D They might not stop printing and that will definitely bring down their economy.
It's easy to understand when you imagine it but when they put more words and some jibber jabber, they make it look like it's impossible to understand so that people won't be curious about it. Something so boring will not be the trend today and people won't like reading or watching the news anymore. It's becoming a norm in this era that watching live streamers is better than the news.
I don't even know how they will vote while they know nothing about the world economy, the platform, and what it means of who they are voting for.
In the next 10 years, the world leaders will be the people who will have the most subscribers on social media platforms. The news should start making their shows a bit exciting so that people will start watching again.

Lol I agree, the last line was as funny as it gets. Moderators can't do anything about posts like this, the topics are allowed to happen, there isn't really a rule that says "you can't open lazy effort topics", it's allowed so we are going to see stuff like this.

Yes, OP will call up the federal banks and tell them they should print more and in return federal banks will realize the mistakes they made by not printing so far and will listen to OP and print more thanks to his reminder, lol. In any case, printing more is not going to happen anytime soon, we have high enough rates and inflation already, it's more going to be about just making it sustain for a while longer, to get people and banks and so fort adjusted with new inflation and rates, that is the hardest part. This is when recession happens because with higher odds the rich do not risk their money and just invest whereas with low rates they rather use that to make their company bigger instead.

To be rich and wealthy it's not the money only how much you have it's mindset.
My mindset is let's make prices go high inflation high but let's not go in recression.

Well that's USA they have foreign power also they can always find the reason why world need dollar remember more demand for dollars the more dollars they can print without worry about inflation so much.
And If there is problem that dollar could be devalued will lose value too fast then they can always use emergmcy brakes the " rate hikes" until inflation goes away so they can start print again until inflation goes too high that will put dollar value in danger then they can use "emergmncy brakes" the rate hikes again. It's fun like using brakes wjen you have high speed so crisis after crisis so hot and cold hot
And now nothing to worry about USA is in war and for financing the war you need a lot money so they do print money and If the money numbers mostly Will be on the Screens and on treasury balance and it goes in ukraine or Israel then it means the money not going in usa real economy but still it Will support the markets so it will go to assets prices gold btc so not need to worry about inflation.

So that's why USA can do it and i hope they do it big printing i want to put a lot money in pocket from USA and say thanks to fed povell and yelllen because when it comes to money printing yellen always print Nice ammount money.

So that's why USA need to work with their foreign politics and relations to make USA possible to print more money but Same time drive out of USA the most of inflation.
World needs Also the crude oil and USA IS biggest producer so AS long as world need dollars we can print a lot dollars and by printing dollars we can Also issue a lot credit and with and loans and line of credit we can buy real assets so let's swim in the money

Do they ever stop? Since he only thing that changes is the speed at which they do it, however we cannot really deny that this market also benefits from such a thing, since more people are realizing that there is something awfully wrong with the economy, and we cannot trust those that are causing the problem to begin with to fix it, otherwise the problem would not have appeared, and one good way to avoid the consequences of so much money being printed is to use bitcoin which governments cannot print.

Feds are always in the business of prinitng money, everytime they propose bills and budgetary, they don't consider the figures as they know its gonna come from the printing press. I think the break out of Dollar in August 15, 1971, when Nixon ended the gold standard to being acknowledged as just a legal tender has further created the increase of prints we get from the dollar printng press.

Let them continue printing but they should also remember that BRICS still stands a great threat to all currencies not back by anything, so, the printing business may be seeing the end of the road in a short while.

Economy is very important to excel any country. Now a days , Bitcoin market is crashed
and no one knows when this wave will grow up.Its time to buy Bitcoin because it's price will go to 50k Dollars. Printing of money does not control the price of Bitcoin. World Economy is controlled by super powers , Dollars impacts on every country's economy. Strength or Weakness of Dollar controls economy of World, Dollar is available in every country and USA can't fall Dollar value and Dollar price will go up in future days and that's why inflation will occur and no one stop this.Eastern countries are in trouble because there,the price of Dollar is very high and they can't meet their expenses.

Well, your point of view really made me reconsider what I understood about it,
- First, mentioning bitcoin, from what angle should I look at it in this situation? Investments, solutions, hidden notes,... if I just simplify the price story, I'm sure it affects the development of bitcoin in both the short and long term, simply because most of us need to convert it to fiat, a unit to help us connect easily in life at the present time.

- Next, we can look at the influence of the economy between countries and how it is operating, but I will call it a game. Do you think they have an organization behind it to operate? For an entire country without belonging to that country. Because the history of economic development is quite broad, I can only talk about the modern period when industrialization in many fields spread globally, and I know there are organizations that exist and manipulate the economy through many events that until now the masses have not known about. And $ or the United States is just a tool for these organizations to achieve their goals. This may be a rather sensitive issue, but it has actually been going on for decades.

Even with the current problem, the reconstruction of a new order in which we are shifting control over that economy, the Eastern region will probably break out very quickly, in your opinion $ dominates everything . But in fact, it is being separated from the game by other regions as an economic operating tool.

I'm not sure on which chart you are looking up to say that the Bitcoin market has crashed. If you're still living on the time when we peaked up to $69k and comparing it til' now, yes it's still low compared to that but we shouldn't lived to that moment because the market is changing and it is highly volatile so it is unlikely to stay for that long on that price range.

It should have been done earlier when it's even under $20k but regardless of that, we'll still go up and will pass that price.

To sum it up, it's all about the global economy situation and from there is building up the demand for which how the price of Bitcoin comes up with.

Needless to say, the name of the thread is somewhat misleading because it doesn't really account for the world economy in general and merely focuses on Bitcoin vs fiat and on inflation. But hey, if we're doing a simple version, I'd say it's actually even simpler. You can buy Bitcoin, at any point, and just wait out whatever comes next until you end up with profits. Inflation, the Fed, wars don't matter. Bitcoin has shown its resilience in light of different global challenges like the pandemic, the Russo-Ukrainian war, the Israel-Hamas war. It seems capable of bouncing back, it's just a matter of time.

The cycle is always like that, isn't it? When the interest increases, the bitcoin price will go down, as usual in the market. Then, when the interest rate decreases, there will be an opportunity for bitcoin to increase its price value in the market.

and when there is an increase in the interest rate, we, the people, are affected because the prime commodities that we need on a daily basis increase. So we humans are always the losers in the end when there is an increase in the interest rate, right?

I love how you make everything look simple. Unfortunately you are right. This cycle keeps repeating and repeating. So we just have to be more patient when the market corrects and start accumulating at that time. So when the market gets excited again we just need to relax and wait for people to get hyped and the market to be pumped up with various things, be it positive news or whatever. Or even like when money is printed and distributed back into the market and floods the market just like when Covid came to us all. At that time, quite a lot of money was printed and then injected into the market and everything went up, including bitcoin. Whatever the scenario, in the end the cycle is always the same as before

Is this affirmation or speculations? Nobody is right when they say bitcoin price will go to x price unless that actually happened. Saying that people should buy bitcoin is also not a good thing to say because you are making yourself looks like financial advisor and under law, if the opposite should happen, you will be fine for that.

I am not sure if that still happen today but there was a time that if Fed announce of money printing or they give out palliative in the past, bitcoin price used to pump because it was believe that many were using their money to buy bitcoin, PayPal even comfirm it that they were having inflow of $1500 which they believe it was from the palliative given by the united state of America for citizens to used to cushion the effect of lock down. So I think money printing has a way it affect things in the economy.

Maybe understanding the world economy is easy but people controlling that makes it hard. The system itself is corrupted and they are unable to control their own economy the way it should have been. Every time there's a crisis, do you still last resort of printing money. That should be the last thing you want to do if you want to improve your economy. But they always do it first thinking that it should balance it.

But it has the opposite reaction. The more money you print the more inflation you will face. The system of Fiat currency has been ruined by the system and the inflation is inevitable. That is why economic has become so hard to understand. Maybe it's not as simple as you think. Because others won't let it be that simple.

Each country's economic situation is different because they have different resources, cultural background, political characteristics, market preservation, and other factors. The world economy is an integrated network through which countries can build commercial, financial, and social relationships with each other, and help them grow towards prosperity. The ongoing war between Israel and Hamas could create a recession in the global economy as the conflict could create more panic and disunity in the restive region. This could increase costs for governments and impact urbanization in South and West Asian regions. A detailed issue of the global economy, Bitcoin as a currency is reaching new horizons with the global economy. People are now choosing Bitcoin as the best medium of investment due to the ongoing unstable effects of world politics, economy.