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Title: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 27, 2023, 03:20:08 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 27, 2023, 03:29:36 PM
I don't think God involves himself with gambling. In the bible, Jesus Christ destroyed the template of gamblers and chased them out of synagogue.

However, I know there is a place of magic or vudo in gambling but the occurrence rate for winning is also not guaranteed. Maybe a misture of luck to the believe we have in the bet could make it work if we have done the most reasonable bet because you don't expect to bet on 20 soccer games on a slip and expect to win millions of dollars.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Oshosondy on October 27, 2023, 03:37:06 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
There is no where in the bible that talks about gambling as a sin, but it is in the bible that the love of money is the root of evil. Gambling supposed to be fun and be done with little amount of money. If a christian is gambling with very huge amount of money and thinking God will help him, he is only digging the space of depression for himself and if care is not taken, it may be worst than depression. I do not know what I can call this than stupidity and he is testing God, and which is wrong.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Juse14 on October 27, 2023, 03:38:42 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

By looking at this picture, I feel like I see someone showing off his stupidity and that's LOL...
And I just want to ask actually "which god does he worship" and what religion does he follow..? because clearly in the Bible there is a statement that "warns to abstain from loving money" where meanwhile, gambling is one of the activities that brings you closer to it (loving money). But apart from that, gambling is about the enjoyment of some people, so regardless of whether it is halal or haram, as long as you like gambling, go ahead and if you don't like it, don't ever gamble. And never mix it up with religion because religion clearly prohibits this.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: maydna on October 27, 2023, 03:43:23 PM
It seems that God plays a role in the win or loss that we experience, and that is our life's destiny that has been written. Instead of talking about matters of faith in gambling, it is better for us to directly place a bet and turn the button or determine the amount of money and bet. Perhaps we will never reach an agreement about whether faith has anything to do with gambling because perhaps some people don't want to mix gambling with religion. Some people even say that gambling is prohibited in religion, some people say that there is no need for faith to gamble, and others.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 27, 2023, 03:44:51 PM

does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

As atheists, first, prove the existence of God then we can explore the answers for his help regarding our activities.

As theist. Good has a better job to do than monitoring someone's entertainment. :D

Everyone has superstitious beliefs in one or another so this is some kind of belief not really thinking that God will help the person to win if he surrounds himself with bibles.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: electronicash on October 27, 2023, 03:47:59 PM
god as far as i know had said in the bible that it's not allowed to gamble. true believers, wouldn't really include god to win in their bets.

the only reason why spirituality and betting have a connection is because he surrounds his sportybet app with the holy bible app lol how desperate is that man to rely on all his hope to win in gambling.  let me guess is this the lady who cried to return her money after losing on sposrtybet app?



Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: robelneo on October 27, 2023, 03:49:44 PM


Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

If he asks for a sign from God if he should stop gambling, God will give him a sign right away that he should stop, God does now want us to be astray and addiction to gambling will keep us astray from God.

Not because the Bible says that we should include God in everything we do, that does not mean we should involve God in our vice, we are just justifying our wrongdoing by including God in it.

If you really God-fearing you should not include him in vices and man up to yourself you are responsible for all that you're doing, only ask for guidance to the Lord if you're doing it according to his laws and wishes not your wishes.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Wiwo on October 27, 2023, 03:57:12 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
There is no where in the bible that talks about gambling as a sin, but it is in the bible that the love of money is the root of evil. Gambling supposed to be fun and be done with little amount of money. If a christian is gambling with very huge amount of money and thinking God will help him, he is only digging the space of depression for himself and if care is not taken, it may be worst than depression. I do not know what I can call this than stupidity and he is testing God, and which is wrong.
Exactly,  back then in the old days while as an undergraduate student I wrote one course exam like that where this question was put forward by I e of our lecturer.

What is the place of God in football match/ gambling?

Where is the place of God in politics?

All this are great questions that help us get some level of information and building a scientific understanding around those subjects terms,  I believe that in gambling and politics god is just a spectator.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: bittraffic on October 27, 2023, 04:02:25 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
There is no where in the bible that talks about gambling as a sin, but it is in the bible that the love of money is the root of evil. Gambling supposed to be fun and be done with little amount of money. If a christian is gambling with very huge amount of money and thinking God will help him, he is only digging the space of depression for himself and if care is not taken, it may be worst than depression. I do not know what I can call this than stupidity and he is testing God, and which is wrong.

There is a mention of it in the bible. I remember posting this somewhere which some pastor in the past taught us about this in a Christian living class. Which is says in Proverbs 1:14.

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You shall cast your lot among us. We'll all have one purse." 14 put thou lot with us, one purse be there of us all; (put thou thy lot with us, and let there be one purse for us all;) 14 Thy lot thou dost cast among us, One purse is -- to all of us.

If I have to interpret it myself, its like poker where they have a money pot in the middle and one of them will win.

And in Proverbs 1:15, it also says it is not allowed.

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15 my son, do not go along with them, do not set foot on their paths;

Amen!  ;D


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Zlantann on October 27, 2023, 04:16:22 PM
1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

It is believed among Christians that God influences everything we do especially if it is good. The Bible is not against responsible gambling but it warns against being in a haste to get wealth because it could lead to loss of wealth or even criminal activities. So I will not criticise people that think God is involved in gambling.
It is also funny for someone to believe that putting a bet app in the middle of Bibles will affect the outcome of the game. This behavior is born out of a lack of understanding of even the Bible. The Bible as a book or app has no consequences except you read and believe it. After believing, you can use it to pray to God and ask for what you need including protection against evil and gambling wins.

In summary, Christianity is not against gambling and Christians believe that God controls everything. It will not be out of place to pray and ask God for protection and favor. But it would be foolishness to depend solely on God to make you win, hence it is important to learn and gain skills about your games.

I don't think God involves himself with gambling. In the bible, Jesus Christ destroyed the template of gamblers and chased them out of synagogue.

Jesus pursued those gamblers and moneychangers out of the temple because they were gambling in the wrong place. They should have engaged in the activity outside the holy Temple.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: CryptSafe on October 27, 2023, 04:35:23 PM
It is dependent on your personal faith. I believe whatever one believe would work for them fine let it be but if you do not, so be it. From my understanding of the Bible, Jesus chased away gamblers and money doublers from the temple which means it is contrary to his belief as a  Christian and from that perspective, I can deduce that Jesus does not support such activities in the house of God because it was in the temple such act was carried out but some people still believe what ever they put their hands in would multiple and that settles their faith and it works for them fine. So therefore, if the owner of the App does that with faith possibly it just might work out for them.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: uneng on October 27, 2023, 04:44:01 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
That is the mistery of life no one can answer precisely. It's out of our understanding how God acts and why he acts one way and not another. Why do some specific people make huge profit from gambling, while others lose? Why a determined person is so lucky and the other totally unlucky? Is it all about randomness, after all? I don't think so...

I believe not everything happens because God wants, but everything happens because God allows it to happen. It must be related to free will and what we can learn from our actions and decisions aiming our progressive evolutional and developmental process as individuals.

Through a big loss or jackpot win, God may be trying to show you something that can contribute to your personal growment as individual.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Rruchi man on October 27, 2023, 04:44:58 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
I cannot speak for God, but I think he has no dealings with petty things like gambling. Following the gospel, we are all children of God, and both the person that wins and looses are all his children, so spirituality or praying to God to win in gambling is useless because the other person who has placed an opposite bet to what you have placed may have also prayed to the same God. So who is he going to answer?

There is luck in gambling, but no spirituality.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: coolcoinz on October 27, 2023, 04:45:33 PM
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

And here's my interpretation.

The person who did this wanted to surround his betting icon with a bunch of other stuff and when he feels an urge to gamble he closes his eyes and taps on the screen.
If the bible opens it means God intervened and he's not supposed to gamble on that day.
If the sportsbook opens, again God intervened and he's allowed to make a bet.

It doesn't mean he ever reads the bible, you know. ;)


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 27, 2023, 04:46:52 PM
god as far as i know had said in the bible that it's not allowed to gamble. true believers, wouldn't really include god to win in their bets.

the only reason why spirituality and betting have a connection is because he surrounds his sportybet app with the holy bible app lol how desperate is that man to rely on all his hope to win in gambling.  let me guess is this the lady who cried to return her money after losing on sposrtybet app?



You are right, true believers stay away from gambling and other vices that will lure one into other sins. Like while gambling you can involve in insults and fight which can lead to harming the body especially in off line gambling. While gambling you can be attracted by other things which can jeopardize your faith.

I think it could fall in the category of anything that will lead you to sin. Some can get angry after losing a game and get provoked to beat his wife up and many more of the vices that will lead one into sin, you can steal to gamble. Some gamblers are not truthful, they can try to cheat the casino etc.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Hispo on October 27, 2023, 04:52:37 PM
Rather than spirituality, I am inclined to say that picture you shared with us mostly reflects superstition.
Anyone who had a chance to read the Bible or gone to Church to some extent, would have realized that God does not obey those who use charms, talismans or ammulets, actually if I recall correctly, those things are frown upon by Christianity.

If someone is willing to surround their gambling app with apps to read the Bible, then that same person would agree on wearing charms and similar things to enhance their luck.

I believe there is a connection with gambling and spiritually, but it goes beyond doing things like these. Excessive gambling can eat away the spirit of anyone and there has been countless examples of it in the past.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Yatsan on October 27, 2023, 06:12:36 PM
It is mentioned in the Bible itself that schems concerning a quick way to get rich, is a sin which already violates the idea of their relationship. Praying to win is clearly a sign of frustration ‘coz every gambler knows gambling won’t be supported by spiritual belief; simply shows that they have nothing more with them which led them to such behavior. Just let things be put in this way; if you’re lucky then ready the bag to put your rewards with. But if you are having a bad day with your bets then just take a rest than to cross your line of spiritual belief.Our God doesn’t gave anything to do other than to just watch how the player or his son decides for himself.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: goinmerry on October 27, 2023, 06:20:17 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

Something like that shouldn't be a topic in the first place. Spirituality or anything about religious activities is an endless cycle of argument. There will be no accurate and even close response to that kind of question as we can't generalize that.

We obviously know that there's no such thing as faith or whatever takes part in our gambling activities.

However, if there's a gambler who applied their religious faith in gambling, just let them be like that. Maybe that's effective to them so be it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Frankolala on October 27, 2023, 06:37:15 PM
God is against gambling because it is an ungodly act. Whatever can destroy someone is against the will of God. This is the reason why when you see a man that is so deep in his religious life, he will forbid gambling. We have read some gambling big wins that the  Father of the boy rejected the money and told the boy not to enter his house.

There is no deep religious man that will advise you to gamble because to so many people it is like a waste of funds and the they understand that sometimes, you can pay for yourself to be entertained. Please when we are talking about gambling let us not involve God in it, because gambling is based on luck and not spirituality.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 27, 2023, 06:45:35 PM
1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.

Nah, I don't think that God or any supernatural being for that matter will be involved in gambling or influence the result of the game you played for you advantage. This is just what we call superstitious believed. What I can say is that gamblers though are one of the most superstitious individual that I have met in my life. Everything should be a connection to something.

2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

And if you are a Christian you know that God does not specifically condemn gambling, but the love of money as the source of all evil.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

So no is my answer here, maybe it was just a coincidence that when you pray to God you suddenly won on you gambling activity. But it doesn't mean that God has anything to do with our gambling, win or lose. Still base on luck and your analysis of the game to be able to win in sports betting.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Issa56 on October 27, 2023, 07:31:48 PM
For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.
This is really funny to me. I glanced at the picture, and I didn't notice the sportybet app initially till I went back to check the picture again. Why will you put a gambling app in between bibles? But it's not making any sense to me. I just see that as a waste of time. I don't know the kind of mentality that some people have, putting the spotybet app in between bibles won't make you win. If you are going to lose a bet, then you are going to lose it. Some people are just having some weird beliefs, and I don't even know if Christianity is against gambling or not, but my religion is against gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: alastantiger on October 27, 2023, 07:43:42 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
I won't judge the person in the story. We do whatever we feel will give us an edge in gambling no matter how stupid it may look or sound to other people. So long as it makes sense to us we do it. The person in this story obvious is a religious fanatic. If he isn't, then he'll would know that God, the Devil and whatever metaphysical being out there that people believe in and worship are indifferent to our gambling activity. They don't fucking care whether you win or lose. That is why we have common sense to guide us and give us a gentle nudge from the onset of irresponsible gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Obari on October 27, 2023, 07:57:25 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
I won't judge the person in the story. We do whatever we feel will give us an edge in gambling no matter how stupid it may look or sound to other people. So long as it makes sense to us we do it. The person in this story obvious is a religious fanatic. If he isn't, then he'll would know that God, the Devil and whatever metaphysical being out there that people believe in and worship are indifferent to our gambling activity. They don't fucking care whether you win or lose. That is why we have common sense to guide us and give us a gentle nudge from the onset of irresponsible gambling.
Sometimes I wonder why people feel that religious believe,and the things they do in accordance with their believe will have any impact or influence in their gambling life,or their religion will have a way of making them win while gambling,these type of believe seems so achaic to me because a gambler knows that in gambling,their is luck,and if you aren't always lucky enough,there is nothing you can do about it that involves the spirit,all you need to do then is to go back to learn the different strategies you can employ,which will make you a better gambler,or better still,look for a way to study it,or learn from the people that are experienced,following the games step by step,atleast it will help you in making the right choices while Gambling.Religion has nothing to do with how you win or lose.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Oasisman on October 27, 2023, 08:07:31 PM

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I am a former Christian and they believe gambling is immoral and their God will not going to bless you with financial abundance if you gamble or engages into several vices. Well, that's just their belief though, but if the person who did that is indeed a christian, well I'm not sure why he did that as it is against their practices.
As for me, I don't consider myself a christian anymore but I believe in the sole God the creator and I don't think gambling in his point of view is immoral or it is against his will, so yeah we could mix gambling and spiritual beliefs, but of course that depends on our own beliefs as well since most of the religious group are against gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Westinhome on October 27, 2023, 08:22:38 PM

I am a former Christian and they believe gambling is immoral and their God will not going to bless you with financial abundance if you gamble or engages into several vices. Well, that's just their belief though, but if the person who did that is indeed a christian, well I'm not sure why he did that as it is against their practices.
As for me, I don't consider myself a christian anymore but I believe in the sole God the creator and I don't think gambling in his point of view is immoral or it is against his will, so yeah we could mix gambling and spiritual beliefs, but of course that depends on our own beliefs as well since most of the religious group are against gambling.


The religion against the gambling or betting because it was deal with the real money,So for the benefit of their followers the religion was against the gambling.We know gambling had both the win and loss chance.So we can either make the big win or loss the entire money in the gambling.So the religion not allow to play the gambling.God is our creator and help us in all the hard situation,either you pray or not.The God will help us in different way.The only thing is we need to try to get away from the hard situation.So the God will show the right part to us.Not only the Christianity also the Islam against the gambling of their followers.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Wiwo on October 27, 2023, 09:20:59 PM
God is against gambling because it is an ungodly act. Whatever can destroy someone is against the will of God. This is the reason why when you see a man that is so deep in his religious life, he will forbid gambling. We have read some gambling big wins that the  Father of the boy rejected the money and told the boy not to enter his house.


I am surprise at the level at which we ascribe so much power and authority to religion and also take religion to mean God,  our religion may prohibit gambling,  but then does God really care what men Judge,  I am not certain that gambling destroys someone until now that you mentioned that in this comment because we have both Muslim,  sustain and other people even.

As long as gambling is done with high regard to transparency,  trust and other lifestyles that to will not buy into or are ready to leave with at some point, so there is a news for every should come to a point.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Weawant on October 27, 2023, 10:39:42 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
Firstly I don't think there's any part of the bible that supports gambling, so I don't think God is in support of it, because it's stayed that quick money and all that isn't what God associates himself with but then sometimes some lucky people think they got God involved and it turned out I'm their favour or maybe it was their faith just working for them but then I'm yet to see any scriptural support for gambling.

The perception of gambling and spirituality, I think is more of an individual reasoning, some persons who are christians don't see immorality in gambling meanwhile some do and they back it up on spiritual ground while the others don't, so at some.point I see more of relativity in it than any form of absoluteness because some persons Use dark powers for gambling and It works for them, that can be considered gambling with spirituality, but When it comes to Christianity, I haven't come across any scriptural support to gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Woodie on October 27, 2023, 10:49:16 PM
The fact that gambling has been linked to some kind of greed at times, I don't think we have any religion that welcomes greed as most religions are centred around love and sharing and can't be associated to gambling.

As of the picture above, I honestly think this is blackmail!! This gambler is kind of saying I will keep being a religious person on condition that you give me some kind of favour by winning, which isn't right!!! Let people get into these religious activities for the right reasons not trying to put God to the test...but then again I don't blame them because external factors such as bad economies, bad financial well-being have put them in this awkward position.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 27, 2023, 11:01:10 PM
I don't think that's how it works with God. He provides but would never help us out in this bad activity. Gambling is a sin so why would God be around it?
That's just a superstitious belief from whoever posted that photo and he might be near getting crazy or being a gambling addict because he starts to do those kinds of things in his application. I am only amazed that he made an effort to install every Bible application in the Playstore but I doubt he is reading every version of it. One Bible application should be enough and we might not even finish it after years of reading it.
This is near crazy mode if we do shit like this, we are too eager to win our bets that we believe God is the answer for it while it had always been the gambling sites who have the system all rigged in the first place.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Hispo on October 27, 2023, 11:12:56 PM
The fact that gambling has been linked to some kind of greed at times, I don't think we have any religion that welcomes greed as most religions are centred around love and sharing and can't be associated to gambling.

As of the picture above, I honestly think this is blackmail!! This gambler is kind of saying I will keep being a religious person on condition that you give me some kind of favour by winning, which isn't right!!! Let people get into these religious activities for the right reasons not trying to put God to the test...but then again I don't blame them because external factors such as bad economies, bad financial well-being have put them in this awkward position.

One cannot blackmail God, by the way. So I do not see this as blackmail but rather the silly pursue of someone who is in gambling of any charm they can get to increase their chances of winning big.
It is kind like a coping mechanism, the person knows how unlikely it is to outsmart the casino, so has to resort to powers beyond his imagination to try to convince them to help him, though this is not how it works.
I am afraid that in the pursue of any kind of charm or power which could provide temporary victory, this person may be willing to deal with dark forces in exchange of money, when he realizes the almighty do not help those how are greedy and seek to earn money by chance.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Saisher on October 27, 2023, 11:16:36 PM
People should know that God never supports or promotes gambling to his believers because they eventually blame him if the gambler loses a lot of money from his betting, gamblers should separate their gambling interests from their religious beliefs.

We all know that gambling is a vice that will lead you to a life of irresponsible spending and your relationship with your family, you can pray to God but do not expect that he will do wonders to your bets and make you win, because you will just justify your addiction to gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: JoyMarsha on October 27, 2023, 11:25:31 PM
A strong believer or pastor of a church will preach to you that God doesn't support gambling and it is evil for a believer of Christ to participate in it.

Bringing gambling activities into a religious belief that God will favor you if you hand everything(your gambling activities) over to him through prayers, he will come and answer you by making you win bet games. That's wrong and a poor reason to have the person change his or her mindset that gambling is entirely on luck and doesn't need a spiritual force to back the winning.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on October 27, 2023, 11:26:46 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I think the person that designed this picture with the sportybet app in the middle of the bible is being superstitious. What does the people have to do with a gambling app, or does the Bible look like a betting book. I don't ascribed any assertion to that picture, I feel the owner just did that for clout chasing.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: lionheart78 on October 27, 2023, 11:56:30 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities?

No, I do not think God play any part in our gambling activities.  Same way God let us decide for whatever path we take in our life.

Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I do not think winning and losing depends on how much faith we have in God.  If that is so, then there should be no poor religious people living in the world.  

As of the picture above, I honestly think this is blackmail!! This gambler is kind of saying I will keep being a religious person on condition that you give me some kind of favour by winning, which isn't right!!! Let people get into these religious activities for the right reasons not trying to put God to the test...but then again I don't blame them because external factors such as bad economies, bad financial well-being have put them in this awkward position.

This is more like a wolf hiding in a sheepskin, IMHO.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Oilacris on October 27, 2023, 11:59:00 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
Definitely there's no connection on asking for some divine things or that prayers would really be that working out because there's no such thing about asking for some luck when we do gamble.
We do know that luck do comes randomly and there's no way that it could really be influenced by any prayer or app or even on how religious you are on which you would really be that
still getting those random results or outcomes knowing gambling is that a game of chance. Well, just let those people do on things that they do believe as long they arent that affecting someone.
There are really things that we do really believe that it would really be that affecting our luck and this is why we do see different behaviors and things that people been doing
just for them to increase their winning chance.

We do even see having those kind of betting patterns or something that they do chant, or something that they do bring with them on the time that they do play.
This one shows even on an app which is bible and the sports betting site or app that he is really that betting into. It doesnt make sense yet this couldnt changed a thing
no matter what.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 27, 2023, 11:59:34 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
Definitely there's no connection on asking for some divine things or that prayers would really be that working out because there's no such thing about asking for some luck when we do gamble.
We do know that luck do comes randomly and there's no way that it could really be influenced by any prayer or app or even on how religious you are on which you would really be that
still getting those random results or outcomes knowing gambling is that a game of chance.

i am also not inclined believing that these 2 are connected. however, you are free to have such beliefs on this matter. so long you are not harming anyone with your beliefs, i have no prob with that.
gamblers tend to be superstitious sometimes as they apply it on their gambling, thinking that one way or another it may affect their betting results.
there's no problem with such thinking, just make sure whatever you can get out of this will be on you and blamed to someone else.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Wexnident on October 28, 2023, 01:12:57 AM
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.
Should've made it into the shape of the cross. Much more effective  ;D

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
No. I mean if you really wanted to then you can technically let God participate in your activities by following whatever divine judgement he has that he sends on you every now and then, but in the eyes of a regular dude like me, that just looks like some dumbass looking for signs so that whatever he does can make sense when in reality, it doesn't. Don't get me wrong I don't have anything with having a religion and following God, but using him as an excuse so that you can what, make good bets? That's just pure idiocracy.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: pakhitheboss on October 28, 2023, 03:23:16 AM
No. I mean if you really wanted to then you can technically let God participate in your activities by following whatever divine judgement he has that he sends on you every now and then, but in the eyes of a regular dude like me, that just looks like some dumbass looking for signs so that whatever he does can make sense when in reality, it doesn't. Don't get me wrong I don't have anything with having a religion and following God, but using him as an excuse so that you can what, make good bets? That's just pure idiocracy.

Such believes only arises when he or she might have won continuously because some kind of signs. Which made them believe that a divine intervention made them won their bets. I agree with you that using God in this situation is an excuse but I have seen many celebrities doing the same and acknowledging the fact that without a god and his blessings they couldn't have made this big.

I won't interfere with anyone believes if they think they needs the lord's blessings for everything they do then so be it. Who am I to judge anyone. It is their wish and their nature of doing any work and I don't think it is unethical.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Silberman on October 28, 2023, 03:42:22 AM
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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
I cannot understand that picture in any other way than that person being heavily addicted to gambling, I could understand a person putting themselves on the hands of god in the case they are suffering a terminal disease or something similar, but to do this just so they can win a few bets shows how far gone and how out of touch with reality they really are, so people should keep that image on their minds and use it to remind themselves to the extremes the addicted gamblers will go to try to get a win.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Poker Player on October 28, 2023, 04:13:11 AM
What I had yet to see in this section, but I don't know why, I'm not surprised. No, God has nothing to do with gambling outcomes. Unless you live in a pre-scientific world and you dedicate yourself to pray prayers or even sacrifices when there is a drought to ask God for rain instead of making wells and canalizations you shouldn't believe in things like that. God, in case he exists, has no intervention in the things that happen in the day to day, at most we can assume in a scientific way that he set the rules of the universe and started it, but if you think that by praying to him he will intervene making it rain or making you win the bet you are scam meat.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Onyeeze on October 28, 2023, 05:07:17 AM
I don't think that a spiritual assignment or power can make you to win gambling and if it's so I think that gambling nobody would have missed to win in the gambling, because almost every body will go to a spiritual store to buy items and perform rituals before betting  of any kind in a different gambling websites, the connection between gambling and spiritual connections is very far, a gambling is something you have knowledge of and it means that you assume that this thing will be in this form and you are not sure of that, so for you win its by luck and some insights you already have on it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: noormcs5 on October 28, 2023, 05:15:30 AM
I don't think that a spiritual assignment or power can make you to win gambling and if it's so I think that gambling nobody would have missed to win in the gambling, because almost every body will go to a spiritual store to buy items and perform rituals before betting  of any kind in a different gambling websites, the connection between gambling and spiritual connections is very far, a gambling is something you have knowledge of and it means that you assume that this thing will be in this form and you are not sure of that, so for you win its by luck and some insights you already have on it.

Another thing to note is that most religions do not encourage gambling and some may strictly prohibited gambling and betting, so in that case, no one can use spiritual powers to gain an edge in gambling.

In most religions, in order to gain Spirituality, people may pray or worship and ask for divine help from nature, but when something is not allowed in religion, how can anyone ask such a thing from their god? Prayers do make your cause easy but you can only ask god to help you in those things which are not forbidden by religion.

So, in my opinion, when you gamble or bet, you are going against Spirituality and maybe that's why we lose more often than we win  ???


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: slapper on October 28, 2023, 05:26:16 AM
A Christian and a gambler—quite the mix, don't you think? Now, onto the meaty part of your question: does God play a part in our gambling activities? Well, well, well..

Many people hold the religious belief that there is a purpose for each and every one of us. But does the result of a sports wager figure into that plan? Isn't that a million-dollar question? In uncertain times, a lot of people, a lot of people, turn to their faith. They look for direction, safety, and perhaps a little bit of luck. The problem is that gambling is inherently unpredictable. It's a chance game, and chances are just that—chances

But religion is a very powerful thing these days. They say it can move mountains. Can it, however, change the odds to your favor? That's up for debate. There are others who contend that having faith can increase confidence, and that confidence can occasionally result in making better decisions. Does it, however, ensure victory? Most likely not, most likely not


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: len01 on October 28, 2023, 06:38:02 AM
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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
TBH, I dont really understand whether in other religions gambling is considered to be against the rules or not, but in my religion gambling is prohibited, but still the important role of regulating luck or unlucky days has been regulated by God, so if you ask about this, I answer, yes, God. always there to regulate our luck or loss.

but what makes me a little confused is whether it is appropriate for us as God people who have forbidden us to gamble but we pray for good luck to him? TBH, I am a little confused by this question because I not associate spirituality with gambling because this is just entertainment and if I am lucky its God role in giving me luck.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: bluebit25 on October 28, 2023, 07:38:43 AM
Spirituality covers everything and does not exclude even small activities, but here what I observe is very much related to religion and beliefs. If we use it to talk about spirituality, I think many people who are not religious will misunderstand a lot about spirituality. First of all, to have a more objective view, I admit that I am a person who has researched spirituality and I have researched almost every major religion in the world, so if there is anything wrong, I hope will receive valuable feedback.

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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I confidently assert that God will not direct people to develop greed and confusion in all activities in life. As far as I know, this religious belief promotes love and compassion in each person, and usually few people will know about it and understand the profound ideas that appear in scriptures. Especially today, the issue of religion is accepted by the new world as a prejudice about the ignorance of believers and they believe in the logic of science more than the miracles that come from spirituality.

As small as the story of human survival since birth is programmed with ideology from the previous generation, doubt and no belief in religion later but human wishes are not met. And if we are still stuck in the material story, it will be difficult to access spiritual truths, so actually that element of luck comes from ourselves, I know about many invisible laws that exist. exist in life like the law of balance, and the law of attraction,... so I know that luck or failure are not natural, they all have causes that we cannot see.

Nowadays, there are things that science cannot answer and they turn to search for answers through many different cultures, especially the East, where spiritual matters are considered to have many secrets hidden. Previously, I accidentally learned some interesting stories about the great minds of the generation of 20th century scientists. Behind many achievements, there is a mystery about spirituality, and anyone If they have ever learned about Buddhism, I believe they will all have insights into the life of limited knowledge that we currently know. It can be said that it is a religion that is many times more advanced in every aspect social perspectives, science and technology, and even when talking about knowledge in Buddhism have made the understanding of the universe that people know really too narrow.



Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: swogerino on October 28, 2023, 07:52:02 AM
In all three major religions including Christianity which I am also part of God has forbidden gambling as they say in the Holy Bible,there is only little benefit in gambling and a lot of damage for the good life of such wrongdoer.That is why no matter that the guy who did that picture is a good Christian who wants to bet and win I am afraid God won't help him just like God won't help any of us who pretend to be good Christians and on the other side online where no one knows us we involve in an illegal activity like gambling is in our religion.I think that picture is mostly for fun and a wrong fun because you cannot make fun of the religion holy book if you are a believer.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: bitbollo on October 28, 2023, 08:25:24 AM
can we actually really talk about anything to do with religion and with anything in the real world?
Is betting/gambling for fun something good or bad?
I don't think there is a connection between the two things... morale, sins etc are stuffs of the past...


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: angrybirdy on October 28, 2023, 08:40:46 AM
I don't think that a spiritual assignment or power can make you to win gambling and if it's so I think that gambling nobody would have missed to win in the gambling, because almost every body will go to a spiritual store to buy items and perform rituals before betting  of any kind in a different gambling websites, the connection between gambling and spiritual connections is very far, a gambling is something you have knowledge of and it means that you assume that this thing will be in this form and you are not sure of that, so for you win its by luck and some insights you already have on it.

Another thing to note is that most religions do not encourage gambling and some may strictly prohibited gambling and betting, so in that case, no one can use spiritual powers to gain an edge in gambling.

In most religions, in order to gain Spirituality, people may pray or worship and ask for divine help from nature, but when something is not allowed in religion, how can anyone ask such a thing from their god? Prayers do make your cause easy but you can only ask god to help you in those things which are not forbidden by religion.

So, in my opinion, when you gamble or bet, you are going against Spirituality and maybe that's why we lose more often than we win  ???

But still some gambler still seeking a help to win through their hope, faith and prayers. I know some people think that gambling is an immoral habit because they believe that this is one of the factors why there's so many people become self-loathing and addictive. While some studies have found religious belief to be positively associated with gambling fallacies, others have found it to be a protective factor from gambling harms. Well, this is a complex and broad topic, it's a quite difficult to discuss since we have different beliefs in life.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 28, 2023, 08:46:13 AM
In all three major religions including Christianity which I am also part of God has forbidden gambling as they say in the Holy Bible,there is only little benefit in gambling and a lot of damage for the good life of such wrongdoer.That is why no matter that the guy who did that picture is a good Christian who wants to bet and win I am afraid God won't help him just like God won't help any of us who pretend to be good Christians and on the other side online where no one knows us we involve in an illegal activity like gambling is in our religion.I think that picture is mostly for fun and a wrong fun because you cannot make fun of the religion holy book if you are a believer.
First, let me say that I do agree that who ever put those apps together as it is in the picture, it's nothing but for fun, but coming back to the issue of whether gambling is a sin or not, the Bible or let me say the word of God does not explicitly say that gambling is a sin, but I know that God condemns and disapproves Christians from participating in programs that involves quick money schemes.

And personally, I do not consider gambling as a quick way to make money since it mostly involves luck, someone who is not lucky wil or may gamble for a long time and not win a dime, but someone who is lucky will do gamble and win in less time..

So overall, I personally think gambling is not a straight sin before God, but how we go about it and how we allow it affect us in terms of negativity, is what makes it a sin for us.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Strongkored on October 28, 2023, 08:54:11 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
The picture made me laugh out loud, how he tried to protect his gambling app by placing it in the middle of the bible app, and he knew how to do it by downloading several versions of the bible.
I am sure that God will not be involved in his gambling to protect him from losing. I am actually quite sure that he has lost his mind by gambling and hopes that God will involved in giving him victory.
Did he not consult his pastor about his thought pattern which was quite destructive?
Even though he prays very fervently and diligently, God will not fulfill his fleshly desires by giving him victory. Hopefully, if he is someone you know, you can wake him up from his chaotic thought patterns.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Natsuu on October 28, 2023, 09:03:53 AM
Well some people might have their Bible app alongside gambling apps because it's their way of finding balance. It looks funny to be honest. It's like having a reminder of their beliefs while engaging in something that might seem contradictory or to make him luckier in his bets? People are just unique in how they handle things, right? People’s faith in God varies from person to person like it's a super personal thing that everyone sees differently.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 28, 2023, 09:32:07 AM
[1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.
Gambling winning gambling is by luck and maybe by experience that one already has. But I don't think being spiritual have any connectivity  to do with gambling,  God is not interested how people play gambling.  But if people choose to pray before playing bet it up to them, they have the believe that their player can work for them.

What am trying say committing gambling games into God's hands to achieve victory is ineffective,  people can only gambling as a result of luck and not by miracles.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Outhue on October 28, 2023, 10:09:52 AM
I have seen too many voodoo practitioners failing even when they are so sure that the outcome will be the way they predicted, even witches do fail too, it shows that they are not the master of time and the future, the almighty is one and no man or gods possessed the same power.

Gambling can easily wreck havoc on humans that's why Jesus never likes gambling, it's a sin because it messed people up, if you say no it's because you don't cherish yourself as a temple of God, maybe because you have used your body to your own taste so you don't care, gambling makes you less religious because you start believing in something else, or even probably nothing.

You can't be religious and be a gambler at the same times the more I think about this the more it makes a lot of sense, you can try it too, unless you don't just have the knowledge and understanding, nobody owns tomorrow, stop trying to be a god like, you will fail miserably.

The possibility of what gambling can cause is what I am most feared of, I guess that's why in the Bible the son of God was against it, gambling easily leads to losing yourself and losing yourself easily leads to making bad decisions, and this comes with lots of sins, you are in debt and under pressure, you will likely do anything to pay back the money.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Gozie51 on October 28, 2023, 10:31:37 AM

There is no deep religious man that will advise you to gamble because to so many people it is like a waste of funds and the they understand that sometimes, you can pay for yourself to be entertained. Please when we are talking about gambling let us not involve God in it, because gambling is based on luck and not spirituality.

You are right when it comes to the practical Christian and the followers of Christianity and not only Christianity but other religions like Muslim. The reason is that gambling is a factor that can lead you to sinful nature, it addiction is discouraged because you might even introduce it to the church. Most of the christian men that I secretly see that gamble do it in secret, they don't want to allow their wives and other people know perhaps they understand it is against the religious faith. So they secretly do it like other secret sins people do because of flesh. I guess that is why they pray against secret sin.

The buttom line is that most people understand that the bible condemns the love of money even though it didn't condemn money but the love of it. It also warm against get rich quick scheme like money doubler which is same as Ponzi and gambling being part of it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Solosanz on October 28, 2023, 10:37:34 AM
Another ridiculous topic.

Spiritual doesn't have any connection to betting, but if you're someone who take care of a player before the match begin, it do have a connection. If you're a chef which your job is to serve foods to the player, you can give drug or poison into the foods and the player will not able to play as good as he was. You can bet on his opponent and make money from it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Eternad on October 28, 2023, 10:38:07 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

This is hilarious! Church is strongly opposing any type of gambling while the Bible itself is being use by the church as reference with their faith. Although there's no exact mention about gambling in the bible, it's still greediness anyone playing gambling becomes greedy at some point of their game that result to destroy their lives.

But God works in mysterious ways! Maybe some lucky players is indeed being supported by the God to win and help the needy.  ;)


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Hirose UK on October 28, 2023, 10:42:09 AM
This kind of thing is like belief or suggestion that arises from gambler who really wants to win so he thinks about asking god for help or something else that he believes can grant his wish.
But in reality things like this will never achieve anything especially in gambling.

It seems that if I not mistaken there was thread that was almost similar to this which related to belief in mystical things to win at gambling.

Some people believe in that kind of thing but there are also some people who don't believe it and even think that asking for victory in that way is stupid thing that doesn't need to be done.
I personally would never do it and lead god to the desire to gamble because all of that is the opposite of positive thing.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 28, 2023, 10:48:32 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

This is hilarious! Church is strongly opposing any type of gambling while the Bible itself is being use by the church as reference with their faith. Although there's no exact mention about gambling in the bible, it's still greediness anyone playing gambling becomes greedy at some point of their game that result to destroy their lives.

But God works in mysterious ways! Maybe some lucky players is indeed being supported by the God to win and help the needy.  ;)
Well, needless say that you last point may make some sense after all.
Personally, I agree with you that the Bible has no mention of gambling, and neither does the Bible anywhere specifically say that gambling or betting is a sinful act amongst Christians, though I know that the Koran do condemn gambling amongst Muslims, but still, we have alot of Muslims who are gamblers regardless.

Coming back to your last part of your comment, think of it this way, there are several charms, voodoo or whatever it's called in what ever part of the world were each of us live, there are charms believed to help gamblers win their bets, most especially in the area of lottery and other pure luck based games, and I personally do not know but this fetish stuffs seems to sometimes work for some people.
If the devil can indeed make people win gambling or betting, isnt it wrong to believe that God also cannot do the same and even much more?


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: michellee on October 28, 2023, 10:49:30 AM
I think when we are gambling, we will not remember God. When we win, we also don't remember God even though God allows us to win. And when we lose, then we remember God and say that God is unfair by letting us lose.

We are unfair to God because we often forget God in any case. And when we experience difficulties, we remember God and complain about all the difficulties we face. So whatever we do, it is related to God but we don't realize it or don't want to know about it and even reject it.

But if there are people like that, we can't blame them either. It's up to him and we also definitely have something different with him.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: kotajikikox on October 28, 2023, 11:16:24 AM
Not sure if there are relation though you are correct that the creator of the picture is a gambler that wanted to be saved and gives Him/Her luck in every betting.

But me personally ? i don't think that God will interfere in our gambling activities or even if? maybe losses will be our prize because this is against the Bible(according to my understanding)

Gambling is somewhat not bad for me if you are not taking any money from others and not abandoning your obligation in your family we are safe to gamble..


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: o48o on October 28, 2023, 12:01:34 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
No i don't, but that a different question than the topic.

Gambling definitely has a connection with spirituality, but most believers thinks that God doesn't get involved. In the past most organized religions have always frowned on gambling, and see it as a sin, or a form of theft. Or just a wrong kind of path. So asking a winning bet would be like asking be better at sinning against Church teachings.

Idea of bothering monotheistic all seeing God by giving winning bets by asking is absurd to me, but it doesn't really differ from magical thinking where you believe you can affect to outcome by hitting buttons in right order or wearing a lucky shirt or something like that.

But surely people ask favors from gods and spirits all the time, gambling is just another favor. And in Hindu religion for example, there are several gods of luck to ask from.

But if i go to back your original question, i believe in probability, and scientific method, so i don't see any reason why God or any other being would change your outcome no matter how religious you are and how much you ask.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: coin-investor on October 28, 2023, 12:51:16 PM
It is written in the Bible,

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“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and moneywill not

https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/MAT.6.24-26

So there is no connection between gambling and spirituality it's just a front to justify that he is doing the right thing, only compulsive gamblers will do this they want to involve God so people will not look down on them.

Religious groups will not tolerate excessive gambling with their client because they know that gambling will lead you astray from your belief because you cannot serve two masters at the same time.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Lanatsa on October 28, 2023, 12:59:54 PM
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Not sure if there are relation though you are correct that the creator of the picture is a gambler that wanted to be saved and gives Him/Her luck in every betting.

But me personally ? i don't think that God will interfere in our gambling activities or even if? maybe losses will be our prize because this is against the Bible(according to my understanding)

Gambling is somewhat not bad for me if you are not taking any money from others and not abandoning your obligation in your family we are safe to gamble..
Sooner or later he would really definitely be able to realize that it isnt working but since your mind would really be telling that this is really that something real then you would really be pushing up yourself to bet even more because you do believe that those bible apps or whatever prayer app that surrounds your app would really be working and you would really be doing your best on trying to find out whether it would really be that effective or not. If you are that type of person on whose really that headed, then for sure you would pursue on something like this. Do they have connection? Of course there's none, it is really just that people do mold their own beliefs on which they do know that it could affect their luck rate.

Just like on what others been saying that if you would really be finding yourself be that desperate on what you are doing because you are really that believing that this could really work without even trying out to be wary about that it cant really be just that possible that God has to do with your winning rate or simply being lucky. Everything would really be that random and there's no way that you could really be able to
influence it out. There's no such thing into this world that could really affect out your luck rate which it would really be just that totally random in the first place.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: bittraffic on October 28, 2023, 02:16:33 PM
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Not sure if there are relation though you are correct that the creator of the picture is a gambler that wanted to be saved and gives Him/Her luck in every betting.

But me personally ? i don't think that God will interfere in our gambling activities or even if? maybe losses will be our prize because this is against the Bible(according to my understanding)

Gambling is somewhat not bad for me if you are not taking any money from others and not abandoning your obligation in your family we are safe to gamble..
Sooner or later he would really definitely be able to realize that it isnt working but since your mind would really be telling that this is really that something real then you would really be pushing up yourself to bet even more because you do believe that those bible apps or whatever prayer app that surrounds your app would really be working and you would really be doing your best on trying to find out whether it would really be that effective or not. If you are that type of person on whose really that headed, then for sure you would pursue on something like this. Do they have connection? Of course there's none, it is really just that people do mold their own beliefs on which they do know that it could affect their luck rate.

Just like on what others been saying that if you would really be finding yourself be that desperate on what you are doing because you are really that believing that this could really work without even trying out to be wary about that it cant really be just that possible that God has to do with your winning rate or simply being lucky. Everything would really be that random and there's no way that you could really be able to
influence it out. There's no such thing into this world that could really affect out your luck rate which it would really be just that totally random in the first place.

In his mind though he has something to believe in and nothing can get that man down since it is in his faith that one day he'll hit that jackpot. All he needs is that hope.
I couldn't really say he in the right path.

It doesn't really say which sport he is betting but it must be something he follows which he knows who to put his money on. Sport is not just based on luck therefore he knows and he just needs a little help from God.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Odohu on October 28, 2023, 02:21:21 PM
I don't think God involves himself with gambling. In the bible, Jesus Christ destroyed the template of gamblers and chased them out of synagogue.

However, I know there is a place of magic or vudo in gambling but the occurrence rate for winning is also not guaranteed. Maybe a misture of luck to the believe we have in the bet could make it work if we have done the most reasonable bet because you don't expect to bet on 20 soccer games on a slip and expect to win millions of dollars.
Funny enough, most of the things we do are gambling. Starting a business is gambling because you are not sure you will make profit. Getting married is gambling because you are not sure if it's gonna work and give you the peace and blessing of marriage. Going out of your house is gambling because you don't know what risk awaits you as you go. Life itself is gambling because you are not sure of anything. Investment in BItcoin, real estate, stock and anything is pure gambling. Each of these scenarios have their level of risks and measures in place to mitigate them.

When people hide under religion to condemn gambling, It actually makes me marvel at their level of ignorance. Gambling is way bigger and broader than many people actually think. 


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Johnyz on October 28, 2023, 02:56:55 PM
This is their belief or the so called superstitions belief and we cannot invalidate it since its their belief.
Personally, I don’t pray with regards to my gambling activities and I’m just relying on my pure luck and so far winning even if its small happens most of the time. Having that kind of app doesn’t guarantee as well that you are very religious, maybe there’s something behind those apps.  ;D


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: rachael9385 on October 28, 2023, 03:23:50 PM
I don't think God involves himself with gambling. In the bible, Jesus Christ destroyed the template of gamblers and chased them out of synagogue.

However, I know there is a place of magic or vudo in gambling but the occurrence rate for winning is also not guaranteed. Maybe a misture of luck to the believe we have in the bet could make it work if we have done the most reasonable bet because you don't expect to bet on 20 soccer games on a slip and expect to win millions of dollars.
Funny enough, most of the things we do are gambling. Starting a business is gambling because you are not sure you will make profit. Getting married is gambling because you are not sure if it's gonna work and give you the peace and blessing of marriage. Going out of your house is gambling because you don't know what risk awaits you as you go. Life itself is gambling because you are not sure of anything. Investment in BItcoin, real estate, stock and anything is pure gambling. Each of these scenarios have their level of risks and measures in place to mitigate them.

When people hide under religion to condemn gambling, It actually makes me marvel at their level of ignorance. Gambling is way bigger and broader than many people actually think.  
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/T9SS1.jpeg
Its very funny to see you include marriage in those things you mentioned. Well, it is a bit true, because if any marriage isn't in a good condition, that means either the man or the woman has lost a lot already. If the marriage is in a good condition, that means they both win the game.

However, gambling has been in existence even before B.C, like in the bible, it's been recorded that when Jesus Christ was crucified his garments were divided into 4 pieces and it was shared among those who crucified him and those people that crucified Jesus used his garments to play LOTs (gamble) (https://thevcs.org/casting-lots/they-parted-my-garments-among-them), so I don't think gambling is a new thing in the world anymore and I really believe that life as a whole is all about gamble.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Wakate on October 28, 2023, 04:15:37 PM
This is their belief or the so called superstitions belief and we cannot invalidate it since its their belief.
Personally, I don’t pray with regards to my gambling activities and I’m just relying on my pure luck and so far winning even if its small happens most of the time. Having that kind of app doesn’t guarantee as well that you are very religious, maybe there’s something behind those apps.  ;D
Some persons may have the believe that the word of God which is the bible will help them to have a better winnings when they gamble. I see gambling as something we are responsible for and don't have to look for other  means that would make it look like they are responsible for our winnings. Those who are making good profits from the same bet other are losing is just all about luck and the amount of skill and momentum we input in our gambling activities. Like some mythology, the believe that spiritual meaning can be attributed to gambling is based on individual dogma and the results they are getting.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: rahmad2nd on October 28, 2023, 09:48:11 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

This is a difficult answer and will be contradictory, based on the beliefs held regardless of the gambler. in my understanding and understanding, we can see it from all points of view. but for me personally, whatever we do, good or bad, straight or winding, our creator will give us choices according to what we want and want. In this discussion, it is related to gambling. In essence, whatever we do, in the form of business, will always produce results, even if we commit fraud, rob, cheat, and all kinds of things. The Almighty, will give blessing to whatever we do.

However, every action, effort, or any kind, will produce different results. Every action we take is always approved, no matter whether it is right or wrong. It's just that, we will receive the punishment according to what we do and that is the law of cause and effect. If you believe in a supreme being, a power, he can give you fortune through anything, even from gambling. but in context, it varies depending on our conditions and situations. In fact, it could be related to luck. well, that's why I said, the answer will be contradictory. But it all depends on the extent of your understanding.

In Asia, there are quite a few gamblers who carry out certain rituals involving spirits to be involved in gambling. usually, for lottery gambling. there are those who are able to make it happen, but with certain rewards from the entity.  The point is, whatever we do is all with the permission of the Almighty.  For the rest, we will be responsible.  btw, if someone doesn't have faith, trust, just ignore what I say.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Hispo on October 28, 2023, 10:35:56 PM
This thread and the Op picture makes me wonder what would a muslin person would think if this person instead of surrounding their gambling application with Korans instead of Bibles.

Is there anyone around here who consider themselves to be a faithful muslin (though, I am not sure if this is the most suitable section of the forum to ask questions to muslin fellows), what would you think if some friend or family member of yours showed a gambling app surrounded with applications to read the sacred Koran to you? Would you feel insulted or rather assumed by such occurrence?  ???

I believe in Christ, so does my family, and this does not make me upset at all, I find it amused.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Westinhome on October 28, 2023, 11:50:04 PM

https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/MAT.6.24-26

So there is no connection between gambling and spirituality it's just a front to justify that he is doing the right thing, only compulsive gamblers will do this they want to involve God so people will not look down on them.

Religious groups will not tolerate excessive gambling with their client because they know that gambling will lead you astray from your belief because you cannot serve two masters at the same time.


The spiritual thing was far differ from the gambling activities.The gambler himself should not pray the god for the win or loss into the gambling games.So he not include the gambling to the spiritual things.The tolerance of the game was based on the religious group,the Christianity people doesn’t force the gambler about their involvement.They just guide not to take part to the gambling,but the Muslim people totally against the gambling involvement by the gambler.So they will monitor their followers in the real world.If they find their involvement to the gambling sites,the make the hard warn compared to the other religion heads.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Assface16678 on October 29, 2023, 05:41:35 AM
First of all that's a ridiculous idea, it is fun also, but who ever do that, believe me god will not help you, why? You are asking something that is bad in the eyes of god and you think gof will help you, you sre just giving yourself a false hope that the fact is up to you wether you win or lose in your gambling games, maybe some have beliefs like that and we respect that but I guess for me this picture is ridiculous at first glance. Anyway its your own belief I will not judge, just saying dont have too much hope and cling on that, it will hurt you if you hope to much or worst you might blame god if you didn't win and have more losses, which is a sin, so don't blame god because anything happens to you depends on what will you do, its up to you.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Z390 on October 29, 2023, 07:00:02 AM
I am going to spit some truth about gambling and religion and whosoever is not pleased or dislike my claim I apologize

Gambling is spiritually destructive, take this or leave it, it's the truth, it's like opening the door to destiny something without you doing anything and who do you think has such capability if it's not satan? So the spirit of gambling can easily lead anyone away from Gods ways. In the Holy Bible we all know what the Bible said about work, we need to work to get food on our tables, but gambling undermines the virtues of work and striving.

If we think about this very well gambling is automatically a sin, because it breaks all the principles of the way of Christ, if you are religious and you are also gambling you don't know what you are doing, you are simply lust and don't know which road to take, if you really seek to do Gods will you should not get involved in any gambling activities.

This is why some parents disowned their children because they are into gambling, even after they won millions of dollars through gambling, if you are from a religious background it's possible that your parents won't welcome you because you make your money from gambling which is sinful to them the God they served.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 29, 2023, 07:11:03 AM
There are no connections unless you make connections, this is bad this is good and so on.

The basic premise here is that religion has since time immemorial, put up some "rules" about good and bad, some of them have scientific truths and some do not. At that time since science had not developed, religion was a method to control the "bad qualities" of humans including gluttony, adultery and so on.

This is the context where gambling comes in. Religious people advocated against gambling because it made people ruin their own and family members lives. This is true even today.

If you wish to gamble, by all means do so but know the good and the bad about it. Just gambling on money does not make you a bad person but one who is addicted and treats others poorly because of their addiction is.

Its all about moderation, just like alcohol, but few implement it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Bananington on October 29, 2023, 07:29:47 AM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
From a different perspective, I think the photo simply shows ones moral upbringing and way of life. It's almost like a culture this days for online betting apps to be visited and even registered on by any one with any religious beliefs.
Perhaps the gambler also believes God will bless him through his gambling habit. We have seen worse. What matters is that this gambler has hope of redemption someday.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Mauser on October 29, 2023, 08:02:00 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

The first question should be does God really exist? Unfortunately, nobody can answer that question for certain and it becomes more a personal believe question than something that can be answered generally for everybody. For the sake of the thread let's assume that God does exist, even though nobody has seen him yet. What we do know is that God doesn't want to involve himself too deeply in the affairs of humans, we can see that by all the wars and suffering happening in the world. Just look at the recent Israel war, why wouldn't God stop all the evil in the world if he could do so? Or how about curing ill children who did nothing wrong in their life? These should be the main focus of God and not helping out one particular gambler with his bets. Also, in many religions they are quite negative towards gambling and it's all about living a good life where you work hard and don't do anything wrong. That is why I am very sceptical that God if he exists would intervene in any gambling activities.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Negotiation on October 29, 2023, 08:23:10 AM
This is their belief or the so called superstitions belief and we cannot invalidate it since its their belief.
Personally, I don’t pray with regards to my gambling activities and I’m just relying on my pure luck and so far winning even if its small happens most of the time. Having that kind of app doesn’t guarantee as well that you are very religious, maybe there’s something behind those apps.  ;D
Some persons may have the believe that the word of God which is the bible will help them to have a better winnings when they gamble. I see gambling as something we are responsible for and don't have to look for other  means that would make it look like they are responsible for our winnings. Those who are making good profits from the same bet other are losing is just all about luck and the amount of skill and momentum we input in our gambling activities. Like some mythology, the believe that spiritual meaning can be attributed to gambling is based on individual dogma and the results they are getting.
I agree it is totally wrong idea and they believe in superstition God's word in the Bible does not directly speak of gambling but of fortune or chance. Gambling activities will depend on the individual's own will capable of some practice based on his own experience and determined entirely by luck in winning. While there are those who find gambling rewarding and fun it tends to be highly addictive and potentially destructive. The Bible does not call gambling a sin although the Bible warns against the love of money and get rich quick schemes. Gambling definitely indicates a love of money which becomes an addiction.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2023, 10:33:44 AM
From a different perspective, I think the photo simply shows ones moral upbringing and way of life. It's almost like a culture this days for online betting apps to be visited and even registered on by any one with any religious beliefs.
Perhaps the gambler also believes God will bless him through his gambling habit. We have seen worse. What matters is that this gambler has hope of redemption someday.
Online betting applications do not specify people who can join and use the application but people who want to join and use the application to gamble. Those who join have their own religion and know about their religion's regulations against gambling but they still join and use the application. This is about each person's desire to use the application to gamble.

Perhaps the gambler believes that by doing such a thing, God will bless him and allow him to win a lot of money from gambling. But they also realize that God may not allow them to win, namely when they lose a bet and they can accept it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Kakmakr on October 29, 2023, 10:51:56 AM
I think it is just a troll that are creating things like this to get attention, because he or she knows Christians and other religions do not want people to gamble. Some people just like to be controversial or they are just poking and making fun of religious people.  ::)

You see these guys in the casino chat channels, using God's name in vain or saying things controversial to get some reaction from the religious people....  ::)  .... the best thing will be to ignore them, because they get a kick out of it.... when you do react.  ::)


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: TimeTeller on October 29, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
I think it is just a troll that are creating things like this to get attention, because he or she knows Christians and other religions do not want people to gamble. Some people just like to be controversial or they are just poking and making fun of religious people.  ::)

You see these guys in the casino chat channels, using God's name in vain or saying things controversial to get some reaction from the religious people....  ::)  .... the best thing will be to ignore them, because they get a kick out of it.... when you do react.  ::)

As we simply put it this way, religion has nothing to do with the outcome of your gambling.
But it is fine to have some personal beliefs applied to when you bet, but better keep it to yourself.
Maybe, we only need respect when it comes to these beliefs and just let people believe what they want.
As long as you are not making trouble to anyone, I guess, it is fine to practice such beliefs.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Promocodeudo on October 29, 2023, 11:41:33 AM
I believe betting is not scriptural with such knowledge I know that God does not permit it, I have heard from so many people that a game was given to them in the dream to place a bet and most time they try it, it came out successfully, I have also seen people praying to God for him to make their bet a successful one and I can't say he wont answer their prayers because I remember the scripture that's says I will have compassion to whom I will have compassion, that's to say that God can favour people through different means unknowingly to them.
The way of man is not the way of God, he has way of ding his things, to me I will advice we abolish religious mindset in gamble.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: aioc on October 29, 2023, 12:18:31 PM


For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.
Whoever taught him or advised him to do that or even him is not aware that you cannot serve two masters he will serve one and despise the other and because he is gambling he just uses his being a Christian to justify what he is doing, he should be guilty on what he is doing because if God will give him a sign he will ask her to choose between the two, be a Christian and totally stop gambling


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Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

We should not involve God in our gambling activity because if we do we will keep playing God because there are more losses than wins, somebody should do a sermon to this guy that he should not involve God in his vice, win or lose God has nothing to do with it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: swogerino on October 29, 2023, 03:39:06 PM
I believe betting is not scriptural with such knowledge I know that God does not permit it, I have heard from so many people that a game was given to them in the dream to place a bet and most time they try it, it came out successfully, I have also seen people praying to God for him to make their bet a successful one and I can't say he wont answer their prayers because I remember the scripture that's says I will have compassion to whom I will have compassion, that's to say that God can favour people through different means unknowingly to them.
The way of man is not the way of God, he has way of ding his things, to me I will advice we abolish religious mindset in gamble.

Of course religious mindset should have nothing to do with gambling at all as they are two different things,two different ways of living life.In religion the person is fully surrendered to God and to His instructions and lives a normal life without many problems except some financial ones in most of the time and that is what most people do in their life.

When it comes to gamblers they live on the go not caring much about tomorrow and hoping to hit that big win that will change their life.This type of life is often not as calm as that of a believer and usually has lots of problems which in sometimes are extreme like ending in a suicide.

Based on this I would say spirituality,religion and believers have nothing to do in gambling.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: FanEagle on October 30, 2023, 07:14:46 PM
To be fair not all spirituality is religion, there are also people who are not religious, but spiritual as well, they believe in being one with ones self, and that's a different type of mindset totally. Like all those people who meditate, they are spiritual, but that doesn't mean that you have to be religious to meditate, you can be an atheist and still meditate if you want to, they are not connected to each other. In any case, gambling could not really connect all that well if you ask me, it feels like it would be bad for your soul in the end if you are not careful and there are a lot of people who are gambling while trying to be spiritual and that doesn't usually work out that well in the end.

If you are that kind of person, just avoid it if you can and you should be doing fine in the end. I personally believe that the more you stay away from gambling or any other addiction, the better you can get in touch with yourself within and do better psychologically.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Renampun on October 30, 2023, 07:35:19 PM
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For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?

I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone, there is always God who accompanies you when you are sad, angry, happy and so on.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Davidvictorson on October 30, 2023, 07:57:49 PM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: BitDane on October 30, 2023, 11:59:08 PM

I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone,

Chance based gambling games are based on probability.  Its result random and the bet or winnings is a merely coincidence if one does not believe on luck.  While games based on skill like prediction on sports betting and poker games relies more on skill, there is a bit luck on this but the skill takes the greater percentage to win the bet.

When it comes to luck religion like Christianity does not recognize the word since they are more keen on faith for blessings and grace.  With these, I believe that spirituallity and betting have no connection at all.  Even the power of the mind can't alter the result of gambling.



Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: rodskee on October 31, 2023, 03:48:17 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.

this makes me laugh at some point  ;) really there is a God for Soccer ?  did not hear this just now ., but of course
as a kid we have tons of stupidity in mind we even called trash cigarette housing as Play money when I was young so yours sounds a legit
child's play. and also made me smile asking whose side the God if for sportsbook or the bettor  :)  hope you did a successful prayer those time
that your Soccer God sided with your team .

For me (my belief and thought ) God does not interfere in something that does not represent His name and Gambling
as Illegal in most religion(of course not in their government for taxation) so His presence will not as their also , yet there are many people
I personally know that even praying for the whole week when they are going to cockfight Derby to be champion , also they are offering
foods and even Money un churches to favor them in those event, funny isn't?


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: maydna on October 31, 2023, 03:13:30 PM
I don't know what other people believe, but in my opinion, every win that occurs in gambling, not everything is pure luck, there are other factors that influence it, one of which is our belief and also our skills. every part that happens in your life, there is God who intervenes in it, so never take the small things that happen when you gamble lightly, humans do not live alone,
Chance based gambling games are based on probability.  Its result random and the bet or winnings is a merely coincidence if one does not believe on luck.  While games based on skill like prediction on sports betting and poker games relies more on skill, there is a bit luck on this but the skill takes the greater percentage to win the bet.

When it comes to luck religion like Christianity does not recognize the word since they are more keen on faith for blessings and grace.  With these, I believe that spirituallity and betting have no connection at all.  Even the power of the mind can't alter the result of gambling.
Indeed, there is God's intervention in everything, including gambling, so if we lose, it means God does not allow us to win because maybe that will make us forget to control ourselves. God also wants to remind us that gambling is just entertainment. We cannot use gambling as a place to make money because gambling is not like that. But sports betting can give you victory if you have good analytical skills, and maybe you will win in that gambling game.

But all the things we do are written up there, along with the results we will receive. We often cannot accept the results and instead try to recover the losses. If this is the case, we are just wasting our money because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 31, 2023, 03:15:34 PM
Well if you're like me you don't believe any god or any one certain god, so it doesn't have any sort of "play" in my decision to gamble or not.  Now I know a lot of religious people whom think gambling is a temptation from "the devil" but I think that's just peoples way of trying to justify why they don't like something in particular.

I'm not sure any god has ever said "though shall not gamble".


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: CODE200 on October 31, 2023, 03:28:15 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?


Personally, I don't think that our spirituality has anything to do with our gambling habits. And our faith on God does not guarantee us a loss or a win. Because again, if we try to look back, gambling is all about luck. I don't think that God or any religious figures should be involved in our gambling habits as it can be seen as unethical or immoral by some. We all pray for a good bet at times, but I don't think that God himself should be associated or should be used on our gambling habits. Also, I don't think how much faithful or religious are we has any bearing on our wins. But again, this is just my opinion and my own perspective, and every opinion is welcome here.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 03, 2023, 02:08:56 AM
Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
When I was Little and my country football team is playing with another country's football team we used to call on the god of soccer to be on our side. I believe that they are different gods and there is a god of betting. But the funny thing is I do not know whose side he's on - the sportsbooks, the bettor, or the punter. Well, maybe he's just neutral like, an umpire.

this makes me laugh at some point  ;) really there is a God for Soccer ?  did not hear this just now ., but of course
as a kid we have tons of stupidity in mind we even called trash cigarette housing as Play money when I was young so yours sounds a legit
child's play. and also made me smile asking whose side the God if for sportsbook or the bettor  :)  hope you did a successful prayer those time
that your Soccer God sided with your team .

For me (my belief and thought ) God does not interfere in something that does not represent His name and Gambling
as Illegal in most religion(of course not in their government for taxation) so His presence will not as their also , yet there are many people
I personally know that even praying for the whole week when they are going to cockfight Derby to be champion , also they are offering
foods and even Money un churches to favor them in those event, funny isn't?

Well when it comes to things like betting and games, many can ask God to give them the opportunity to win, I am not a person who believes that there are gods for everything, I am one of those who think that God Heavenly Father exists and He is the one who can Manage and decide everything at his will, for this reason, an eprosn can lose help so that his team has the victory, but I think that is not decisive, because it is something that leads to free will, where God can give strength, intelligence , because people from both teams ask him to win, the situation is difficult , however some can use God for those things, perhaps to help, but there are so many things that are Pending to be done on behalf of him, that they are much bigger things , and that they do not have to do with games , with bets , with all those things that are in a very earthly plane, that is what I understand where it can go.

I respect everything that has to do with people who believe in different religions, in fact because of religions or because of religion or belief, that there is a war going on in Istrel and the Gaza Strip, something that I never agreed upon, the fact That wars are waged for religions is the only thing that I see as most absurd, it is something like politics, if they start to generate wars for politics it is what I see as most unnecessary, because in the end those who benefit are others and not the people for which they are fighting because of the politicians, that is why I say that these things are irrelevant to me, a religion does not feed you, a politician does not feed you, the fact that you want a Better life you have to work I work to have more money, and I consider that, so when it comes to betting to have a good result it is something that God cannot be partial to, according to what I know, God wants everyone to win, that there is never a loser , that is what I know that he wants an all-powerful being, where he Rejects all evil.



Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: blckhawk on November 03, 2023, 02:45:02 AM
Think of it this way, people are scared of the unknown (xenophobia) and it's an innate instinct that we have no control of, an average person don't have the capacity to get into the unknown because they're scared of what they might find there that's why they are trying to find meaning in something that really don't have any because they want the assurance that what they're getting into is something worthwhile and that there's a higher purpose for it that's why we see people like this who try to be contradicting or even hypocritical to some, they want to create a meaning out of their losses or wins but mostly losses to either alleviate/ease or heighten what they're feeling at that time.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: retreat on November 03, 2023, 04:45:53 AM
If you are a gambler and a religious person, especially a Christian, it is better for you not to be too religious, because it is clear that gambling is prohibited in the Bible. However, the sin of gambling is not as serious as adultery or murder, so if you are a Christian, use the money you earn from gambling for your enjoyment, don't use it for church offerings or use it for charity. And if you can, you should confess your sins during worship.
And also the spiritual connection and gambling have nothing to do with it. How can you ask for blessings from God when he forbids you to gamble? that doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 03, 2023, 05:24:09 AM
My question to the OP is that what is the difference between Spirituality and Religion? Because I think there is a huge difference. In the Christian religion, betting is called a sin likewise in Islam as well as some other religions. Spirituality on the other hand is ones connection to their religious faith - the things they do and not do, they behaviours others. The connection between religion, spirituality, and betting is not the same across all religions. With the advent of new age religions, some are more liberal and some conservative. My personal opinion on this is that, if you are going to bet, do what you will with your religion if you think it is going to be of any help in the result of the bet. 


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: justdimin on November 03, 2023, 09:38:21 AM
By looking at this picture, I feel like I see someone showing off his stupidity and that's LOL...
And I just want to ask actually "which god does he worship" and what religion does he follow..? because clearly in the Bible there is a statement that "warns to abstain from loving money" where meanwhile, gambling is one of the activities that brings you closer to it (loving money). But apart from that, gambling is about the enjoyment of some people, so regardless of whether it is halal or haram, as long as you like gambling, go ahead and if you don't like it, don't ever gamble. And never mix it up with religion because religion clearly prohibits this.
Don't know bout you but for me I only find it normal. I think lots of people also have a similar habit. On your question if which god he worship, of course god lol. Are there any other god's? But if you mean about his religion, that must be Christian by basing on the bible he have.

Even without gambling, there are things that can make us closer to money, or it's already in the habit of some people. I wouldn't really blame them because let's faced it, money is very important. Almost everything that we do needs it. There are only religion that totally restricts it. So even if you say you are only playing for fun, I wouldn't advice to go against it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: len01 on November 03, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
Indeed, there is God's intervention in everything, including gambling, so if we lose, it means God does not allow us to win because maybe that will make us forget to control ourselves. God also wants to remind us that gambling is just entertainment. We cannot use gambling as a place to make money because gambling is not like that. But sports betting can give you victory if you have good analytical skills, and maybe you will win in that gambling game.

But all the things we do are written up there, along with the results we will receive. We often cannot accept the results and instead try to recover the losses. If this is the case, we are just wasting our money because it will be difficult for us to recover the loss.
In reality, everything has to do with God, I mean, like we live in God hands, whether we are lucky or not is determined by God and our only obligation is to pray for the best and try and if we always fail at gambling, we will never get the same win or if you lose more often, it would be better to reconsider because legally you may not be destined to get big money from gambling but in other ways.

TBH, it actually a bit inappropriate to associate gambling with God because it a bit deviant for me but this just a discussion so its okay.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 03, 2023, 02:24:14 PM

For better understanding, let me first explain the picture above
From the picture above, we can tell that the person who did this is a gambler, and he or she is also a Christian who probably believes God can actually help him or her win big in betting, so the different Bible apps which he or she put around the sportybet app in the middle mean two things for me.

1. He or she wants God to get involved in his or her betting and make him or her win  ;D.
2. Protection so that no evil will make him loss beta unnecessarily, since we Christians believe that the word of God protects, and we all know that the word of God is contained in the Bible.

Now, my question is, does God play a part in our gambling activities? Do you think how much faith or not, we have in God (or whatever we serve as a God) has anything to do with how much we win or lose in sports betting and gambling in general?
It actually has no sense of involving spiritual activities since we all know that gambling is an evil thing. Some people even perform witchcraft with gambling it is common here in my country wherein things draw significant critics on religious groups and communities. Some priests even bet on cockfights, lotteries and other gambling activities, I knew this because I was once part of the youth ministry. 😅 For me there is no guarantee that if you involve god with gambling you will have the best win, it still is a matter of luck.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: TheUltraElite on November 04, 2023, 12:31:25 PM
I'm not sure any god has ever said "though shall not gamble".
The holy texts are written by mortal humans and they are ones where gambling or games of chance have been condemned.

It is a simple method to control the risk taking attitude of humans since their evolution and time on earth. It shows that even back in the past addiction to gambling was common and problems tend to encroach the religious leaders since there were less knowledge about the treatment of the same through professional help.

It all comes down to moderation which I have said in other threads. Be realistic about your games and dont get obsessed over it.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: maydna on November 04, 2023, 05:24:48 PM
~snip~
In reality, everything has to do with God, I mean, like we live in God hands, whether we are lucky or not is determined by God and our only obligation is to pray for the best and try and if we always fail at gambling, we will never get the same win. or if you lose more often, it would be better to reconsider because legally you may not be destined to get big money from gambling but in other ways.

TBH, it actually a bit inappropriate to associate gambling with God because its a bit deviant for me but this just a discussion so its okay.
Everything we do must be related to God, whether we realize it or not. And we must pray for the best, and only God knows. If God allows us to win, we will win, and vice versa. So in this case, what we do in gambling is also related to God, whether we win or lose.

And we can only realize that if we lose, we have to stop gambling and not continue gambling. Some people still pray to God so they can win, but it turns out God hasn't allowed it, so they lose again. If that's the case, we must be aware of it and know what to do instead of continuing to gamble. That could make us experience even bigger losses.


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Slow death on November 04, 2023, 11:12:15 PM
Speaking of religion and gambling, here in my country, as it is a country located in Africa, many people like to do rituals so that the spirits give them a lot of luck so they can become very rich, they reach the level of committing atrocities in search of please the spirits so that these spirits grant great luck to these people. I don't know how it's possible that even though they perform these rituals and lose at games of chance, these people continue to believe in this nonsense about spirits and luck. But unfortunately things are very serious here in my country. people are mentally ill, they spend a lot of time praying in strange churches in search of luck and wealth

They spend hours with wizards in search of luck and wealth, the most frightening thing is that they are willing to make any sacrifice to have luck and wealth, and end up crossing the red line of ethics: being capable of committing serious crimes. They manage to go to the cemetery, dig up the dead and take the bones to perform rituals with the wizards. According to the wizards, this type of ritual is very powerful to the point of making someone win at games of chance. Obviously I don't believe it, I see it as a big lie and something sick. But the problem is how to convince people that witchcraft and churches won't bring luck to anyone, it's all a lie.

I've already tried to convince some people that the churches and these witches are lies, but people don't believe it, the brainwashing done to them is very strong and no matter what I tell them, it's useless, the suffering and despair makes people fragile. mentally and with that the churches take advantage of these fragile people


Title: Re: Spirituality and Betting - Do they Have any Connection?
Post by: Kemarit on November 04, 2023, 11:42:28 PM
My question to the OP is that what is the difference between Spirituality and Religion? Because I think there is a huge difference. In the Christian religion, betting is called a sin likewise in Islam as well as some other religions. Spirituality on the other hand is ones connection to their religious faith - the things they do and not do, they behaviours others. The connection between religion, spirituality, and betting is not the same across all religions. With the advent of new age religions, some are more liberal and some conservative. My personal opinion on this is that, if you are going to bet, do what you will with your religion if you think it is going to be of any help in the result of the bet. 

I guess there's no difference at all in my opinion, everyone connects spirituality with religion because we can't discuss one without mentioning the others. So in this context, I believed that the OP is talking about a supreme being regardless of what religion we have and asking everyone if there is such a connection.

Of course some of us here might not believed in God so it's a moot point for them. There is no cause and effect, everything happen to us because of the result of what we do in life including gambling. But for those who are into religion and let's say a practicing Christian or Catholic, of course, it's a sin and we should get God involved in our gambling and ask for his divine assistance because it will not happen. Gambling is still base on luck and risk.