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Title: Greed or risk
Post by: Orpichukwu on October 28, 2023, 10:37:55 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: livingfree on October 28, 2023, 10:42:21 PM
It varies and we have our own points towards continuing and cashing out. For me, I'll just cash it out and enjoy my win even before the casino takes it back.

But some other will say that they can afford to take more risk and with that amount, they can grow more from what it is right now. That's why if it's just you and me, we know what's best for us and that's to take the profit.

And for the rest of the actual risk takers, they wouldn't mind but to continue and if they lose, they lose no matter what happens and no regret on it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Mr.suevie on October 28, 2023, 10:49:08 PM
That's the beaty of gambling, you never can tell the outcome until the match is decided. Well the matter of if it's actually greed or risk, depends solely on the particular type of gambler involved because I feel for someone who is financially sound, this bet won't be off any implication to him even if the game ended the opposite direction. Let's take drake the music artists for example, I mean the man splashes the kind of cash on different bets all the time and he doesn't do this cause he is greedy or something, cause  I believe there is something called the winning syndrome that come with gambling and that's what he is actually trying to feel so him and his type of gamblers this would be risk taken not greed but other set of gamblers i think the case would be different.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: goinmerry on October 28, 2023, 10:52:50 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Why consider having a debate with your friend about that? What are you trying to achieve? Simply, if they want to push it until the end for a much higher reward, then let them be. You can't push your own preference to others as in the first place, it's not your money at stake.

You were just able to choose that you want to cash out as you see the amount of money. But if you are the one who actually places that bet, you will feel the real pressure and you won't even be able to decide easily if you will push through or risk, after all you choose that bet thinking you will win it all with that odds.

Now to answer that if it happened in my case,  I can't even tell you what should I do. I really need to watch the game live before deciding.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Ojima-ojo on October 28, 2023, 11:11:52 PM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.


Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oilacris on October 28, 2023, 11:14:57 PM
Does really vary yet there are really that games which you would really be believing that it would really be ending up on what you had predicted which of course cashing out early wouldnt really be that
ideal on doing so and you would really be liking to get that winning odds that you are set. So if you do see that early cash out then it would really be that depending on you whether you should push through until the end of the game or fight or would cash out early and would really be that satisfied on the money or profits you do make. You would really be neither be cashing out
and it would really be just depending on you whether you are really that contented or not. There are really these times that these situations could really be giving out that kind of doubt
specially if you are seeing those early cash outs pop out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 28, 2023, 11:24:49 PM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.

Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.

the decision on this kind of bet entirely depends on the bettor himself. we can't blame them if they aim to get the full winnings from this bet. but it is true, if the cashout is available, you can already think twice if you will get it or not. that's already a good amount of money. if you are not very sure with the outcome of your next bet, i guess, it is better to cash out rather than lose it all, right? but such preference is all on you.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on October 28, 2023, 11:27:08 PM
Does really vary yet there are really that games which you would really be believing that it would really be ending up on what you had predicted which of course cashing out early wouldnt really be that
ideal on doing so and you would really be liking to get that winning odds that you are set. So if you do see that early cash out then it would really be that depending on you whether you should push through until the end of the game or fight or would cash out early and would really be that satisfied with the money or profits you do make. You would really be neither be cashing out
and it would really be just depending on you whether you are really that contented or not. There are really these times that these situations could really be giving out that kind of doubt
especially if you are seeing those early cash outs pop out.
Such confidence comes from the inner conviction that the said team/club is going to win regardless of what comes but what gamblers fail to understand in most cases is the unpredictability and uncertainty of game outcomes and how everything plays out and what is untenable at the end of the playtime,  and in this regard the gambler that bet this game is not a greedy person but just a passive fan of the club he selected,  this is not the first time this will happen and at that, as he was in the draw region all through the first half and even some time in the 2nd half,  he may have indeed made a lot of profits from the bet,  but also since the March was in the draw region for long that also could have affected his decision to take the cash out because the casino also will hold back a lot of the cash-out option in this kind of game condition.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: robelneo on October 28, 2023, 11:28:30 PM
This is on a case-to-case basis I would have to cash it out that dollar conversion is enough for a month's salary for a regular worker and for an average bettor it is something to feel sorry if you happen to lose that amount, there will be more rounds to come but not every day you are going to cash out that big amount, the saying strike while the iron is hot sometimes backfires and should not be applied to gambling at all times.
This is where chasing your losses starts when you put everything when you should cash out and you lose, you will be fired out to add money to try to recover your losses.
You ended up losing everything you're winnings, your added bankroll and this is very depressing to think and will blame yourself for not doing the right thing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: benalexis12 on October 28, 2023, 11:38:19 PM
Gamblers have their own reasons; to be honest, not all of them are crooks like that. What we have seen is wild or greedy, and we will immediately think of them. In fact, his point is valid; if that is really his reason because he is willing to take the risk, then we don't care about that because it is his choice.

And whatever he does, it's not really us who will be affected, but him, so there's no point in debating or arguing with him. This is just my own view and opinion on what we are talking about here.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Adbitco on October 28, 2023, 11:44:32 PM
The person who played and placed this bet is a serious and a chronic gambler, who loves taking much risk in terms of gambling. Though don't quote me wrongly because I know there are people who still gambles more than that amount but are subjected to their level of income meaning they gamble what they can afford to loose so if they game goes against them they won't counts but they strongly believe that the game will certainly play since is a single bet. Most times single bets are easily to win to than a multiple bets were you won't be sure of the rest games. But still this game is a very risk game and mind-blowing, imagine this game went against him or anyone of those whose local currency are in Naira what do you think could be their reaction.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Agbamoni on October 28, 2023, 11:46:02 PM
It is quite fascinating how humans assign names literally to every phenomenon and situation :D. This is not greed buddy neither a risk. If this is really a bet placed, then the user gambled with the money he can afford to lose. It is not stated anywhere that the person made use of his urgent fund or emergency fund on him or took a loan to gamble. If there were, then I would know what to tag it. The assurance of Real Madrid winning the game was clear to him, so he betted. If such a person is not capable of having more than that amount in his account, he won't stake a bet of such amount. If he does place a bet when he don't have the capacity, then it may be considered as greed or risk.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: romero121 on October 28, 2023, 11:55:36 PM
Gamblers have their own reasons; to be honest, not all of them are crooks like that. What we have seen is wild or greedy, and we will immediately think of them. In fact, his point is valid; if that is really his reason because he is willing to take the risk, then we don't care about that because it is his choice.

And whatever he does, it's not really us who will be affected, but him, so there's no point in debating or arguing with him. This is just my own view and opinion on what we are talking about here.
It is his money and he have the right to make decision. What he had in his mind isn't known. As a gambler he had placed the bet and waiting for the result. Every form of gambling is risk and greed accompanying it is common. It is upto the gambler and here in my view the gambler could've made a wise decision as he had the opportunity to cashout In profit. He could've cashed out and further placed a bet which is kind of free bet, because his capital isn't lost.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Chikito on October 29, 2023, 12:03:04 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
You don't have to debate him if he didn't use your money for his bet. I don't know what the problem with him is even if he loses the bet after. so just let it be, If I were you, I just say "good luck", and don't forget to ask to treat you if he wins. So, I have also been invited to a debate from my friend long time ago about my bet. I don't know what his problem, even I didn't use his money, he was very insistent that he was opposite team with me. So, after the game was over and I won, he didn't reprimand anyone, he doesn't want to be friends with me anymore. This is a bad situation I think, we should not interfere in people's affairs.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wexnident on October 29, 2023, 01:11:40 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
"Appear too greedy"? That's not a thing, why would you give a damn about what others think of your bets? It might be a different thing if you were spending money from others like a madman, but if not, then really it's not anyone's business to care about it unless asked for. The other side didn't even need to entertain you ngl.

Honestly, this only becomes an issue if and only if said gambler has problems with money. Say if the money came from debts, or from family, then admonishing him can be possible regardless of whatever reason you have, anyway it's good for him. If not and he's living rather well and balancing it? Just let him be.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rodskee on October 29, 2023, 01:59:10 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
                                                                       This will never come to a debate mate because we all have our own ways and target
 wins , or ability to risk those are the qualities need to consider before decisioning what is good or bad.so let that slip owner decide for himself.

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I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
                                                                       That is if you are the one whos playing , but what if the owner wanted to win thousand
 dollars ? or have you wonder how much have he deposited that day ? how much he have lost and how much is his target recovery?Come
 one man 800 dollars is just a peanut to many gamblers trust me they care not that big losing that.
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Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
i use to win more than a thousand dollars and cash out only 400 dollars and let lose the remaining lol.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: electronicash on October 29, 2023, 02:09:55 AM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: bitbollo on October 29, 2023, 02:12:24 AM
in that case (but in general if I can cash out or I have One vet with High staking) I would simply cash out without wasting time and risking a sudden change in the game.
obviously it depends on how the bet goes but it is always better to be on the safe side and avoid any risk...


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: michellee on October 29, 2023, 02:47:46 AM
If you only see your friend's WhatsApp status and it's not yours, you shouldn't comment or argue with your friend. You also don't know whether he placed that bet or he got the picture from somewhere else and put it as a status on his WhatsApp.

But if you place a bet through your friend and it is your money, you can ask him to close the bet and take the money. Greedy or not greedy or it's all just about taking risks. Only your friend knows because he's the one who posted the WhatsApp status.

You can go to his house to ask for an explanation about the picture but that's not necessary because that is not your business. But if on another day, you place your own bet and you get that amount of money, you have to close your bet and withdraw the money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: stadus on October 29, 2023, 03:03:36 AM
Keep that word "greedy" if you would judge to yourself only. We never judge a gambler for what they're doing because they have their own intentions. They might be betting only what they can afford to lose, if you catch my drift. Maybe you find the amount significant, but from the gambler's perspective (the one with the bet slip), it's seen as an opportunity to win big if they don't cash out the bet.

The phrase "bet what you can afford to lose" applies to everyone, but it varies for each individual user as we all have different financial statuses and risk tolerances.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on October 29, 2023, 03:58:40 AM
It all depends on the gambler point of view because everyone will have different thoughts just like you and your friends arguing with each other because of differences of opinion.
If we are normal and wise gamblers we will definitely think something like this is greed, but for those who are addicts True gambling would be said to be form of taking risks because they are risking it to make the biggest possible profit.

But if I see the value that can be obtained then I personally will be more interested in it and take advantage of what I can get.
This is such big amount that even some gamblers would call win like this a big win, it would be bit of an exaggeration not to take it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Richbased on October 29, 2023, 04:04:49 AM
Well everyone have their play pattern as some persons like single bets with huge amount why others prefer accumulated games with little amounts. So for me, he isn't greedy because one, he also wants to win about double of his stake and secondly before he played that amount it must be that he has more than the amount he staked and the staked amount may also be his betting budget so whether the game plays or not he will still be alright.

Now the game is less risky since it's only a single bet as all his attention will only be focused on the game as he didn't make accumulation that he will start monitoring their outcome one after the other before he confirm his winning, from what am even seeing, it looks like a won bet so kudos to the player as he's about #1.73 million richer.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fiatless on October 29, 2023, 04:09:07 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
You cannot judge anyone's actions in gambling. Everyone has their views, budgets, and targets for bets. What you perceive as greed might be seen as a risk by another person. The people who cannot afford to lose such an amount will see it as greed, while many who can afford to lose it will see it as risk-taking. I know if he loses the game it will bring much regret but on the other hand, a win makes him a celebrated gambler. I don't think I will fail to cash out immediately if it gets to this sum because it is already a big win for me.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Nrcewker on October 29, 2023, 04:37:18 AM
Definitely it’s subjective to be honest. It varies from person to person. I won’t say that it’s pure greed, as when the payout it high, definitely the game was in your favour. So it’s obvious that the gambler will take more risk to make the most profit out of it. It will be useless if you fear in the mid game and cash out the bet. Yes you are taking some risk here, but you need to understand that with the risk intake, the profit also increases. So according to me the gambler took the wise decision.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: TimeTeller on October 29, 2023, 06:12:31 AM
Definitely it’s subjective to be honest. It varies from person to person. I won’t say that it’s pure greed, as when the payout it high, definitely the game was in your favour. So it’s obvious that the gambler will take more risk to make the most profit out of it. It will be useless if you fear in the mid game and cash out the bet. Yes you are taking some risk here, but you need to understand that with the risk intake, the profit also increases. So according to me the gambler took the wise decision.

And if you are very sure about your bet, then, high likely that you will push this bet and not cash out.
You will only cash out if you have the feeling that you are gonna lose the next bet.
Of course, you can always cash out if your bet still allow you to do that, because in most cases, bookies won't allow you to cash out for certain period as the game is fast progressing.
Either decision on this matter is all yours - your money, your choice. So you don't have to worry about what will others will say to you on this regard.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: lienfaye on October 29, 2023, 06:26:08 AM
We have different perspective regarding this so it depends on your own view since we have our own way of thinking. Anyway, IMO it will be called you're greedy, if you already had more losses and that's your chance to get some, yet you still push through, that's greed. However, if you're fine regardless of the result and still want to continue that's taking risk so it depends on the situation. The point is as long as it's your own money that you didn't owe to anyone then I don't see a problem.

If it's me I better cash it out rather than continue. Because this amount is already there, should I let this pass by? I don't know what would be the next result and it can turn to worse therefore I will not hesitate to cash out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hatchy on October 29, 2023, 07:16:43 AM

Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
I believe the person who owns this slip might have a good reason for not cashing in their winnings. Most of us would cash out because the amount they bet was very large, and they were very lucky to win. We shouldn't judge them because they likely understand the game well to use such a big amount. Personally, I would take my winnings and perhaps think about betting again later.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: coin-investor on October 29, 2023, 07:17:52 AM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 


Not all gamblers are the same some can take small risk some can take high risk some wants moderate winnings and some are greedy to want more, if your friend wants to go for more because he is comfortable taking a risk then let him, it is money that he is using, some gambler does not look on winning but they look more on being challenged not on winnings.

I never debate with my friend when it comes to gambling his money, I can only suggest and offer him different scenarios if I see that he will be comfortable with the outcome he knows that it's possible to lose everything and he understands the disadvantages of going against a house edge, I just let him decide for himself
I just want him to be mature enough to accept the results and consequences.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: piebeyb on October 29, 2023, 07:25:54 AM
It seems that this is yesterday's match, so it's probably not a saved image and he seems to have won so there's no need to match your point of view, after all no one is greedy when we withdraw our winnings and that's the right choice, maybe it's a friend's Whatsapp status you bet because he is a Madrid supporter so he bets for his favorite club, so there is no problem with that, everyone has a reason to risk all their money to get money from winning, I also often bet all my money and that too is full of analysis so I don't bet carelessly .

Moreover why should you discuss other people's bets, he is not harming you and betting with his own money taking his own risks so it is his right to bet and win that bet, I don't think you need to find out more about other people's wins and care about it because I often I saw a lot of people making Whatsapp statuses about their victory and I didn't care about that.  ;D


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: TravelMug on October 29, 2023, 07:28:42 AM
This is the very definition of gambling though, you take that big risk in hope that you are going to win it. So it's really depends on the individuals and how he is carrying his gambling activities. I mean does he used to bet big already? And this is like normal beating for him? Or is he such a individual that is willing to risk and not cash out early because he is thinking of that big win?

So it's really hard to say whether it's greed or risk.

But then again, it will not be gambling for us, if we are not willing. And all we can do is hope that the gambler won that big. Because it that is us, then obviously we need all the luck in the world.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: davis196 on October 29, 2023, 07:31:05 AM
The question is not greed OR risk. Greed and risk have a direct correlation, not the opposite. Bigger greed leads to bigger risk and vice versa.
Some gamblers prefer less risk and bet more often, while others prefer maximizing their risks and profits(and making bigger loses, if the bet doesn't win). I guess that the gamblers who prefer higher risks are two types:
1.Gambling addicts, who start "chasing" their loses trying to recover them by taking bigger risks. I don't recommend this to anyone.
2.Rich people, who can afford to lose big time, and that's why they place big bets and take higher risks. The rapper Drake is one of those people.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Cantsay on October 29, 2023, 08:06:35 AM

Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

I believe the site this person used to place this bet is “sportybet” and the 1,000,000 you’re seeing there is not the amount he won rather the amount he staked which means that despite the ticket showing him cash out if he obliged to withdraw he will only be taking back the money that he wagered and sometimes the amount might even reduce so he might loss some of his money even before the game started.

Like we discussed in a different thread, there are some punters that use a huge amount of money that makes use think “what the heck is wrong with this person?” And to them it’s just a normal game for them. So this person that owns this ticket might have more than enough in his account to make 1,000,000 looks like normal 1,000 to him so to him it’s just risk noting more.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: blckhawk on October 29, 2023, 08:47:28 AM
If that's not your friend's bet slip, then it's safe to assume that the person who owns that slip is someone who's probably not worried about losing the bet. Regarding your debate, I think you're thinking the same thing and you just have a different definition. What I mean by that is that you're already being risky if you're greedy right? So in a way, you're kind of disagreeing over nothing but that's to my perspective though. @davis196 already said what needs to be said

Greed and risk have a direct correlation, not the opposite. Bigger greed leads to bigger risk and vice versa.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: FatFork on October 29, 2023, 08:54:54 AM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Why even engage in debate with him? That's his calculated risk and his decision. Those who can't handle risks involved shouldn't be gambling at all.

Besides, if you're going to call it greed, then I guess we (gamblers) are all greedy by your definition. I don't agree with that.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 29, 2023, 10:07:18 AM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Why even engage in debate with him? That's his calculated risk and his decision. Those who can't handle risks involved shouldn't be gambling at all.

Besides, if you're going to call it greed, then I guess we (gamblers) are all greedy by your definition. I don't agree with that.

Something that do talks about generalization just because he didnt make some early cashout/payout even seeing those opportunities and now its been called being greedy? You are right on which it isnt really that we
dont really have that or having no sense on making debate or argumentation or trying out to say that he had made out a bad decision just because he didnt cash out early even if already on profit.
We do have our risks tolerance on which it might really be that already enough for you to get out but the a dude or your friend who had made out he bet then he would be tending on cashing it out
on full odds thats been set.

This is the very definition of gambling though, you take that big risk in hope that you are going to win it. So it's really depends on the individuals and how he is carrying his gambling activities. I mean does he used to bet big already? And this is like normal beating for him? Or is he such a individual that is willing to risk and not cash out early because he is thinking of that big win?

So it's really hard to say whether it's greed or risk.

But then again, it will not be gambling for us, if we are not willing. And all we can do is hope that the gambler won that big. Because it that is us, then obviously we need all the luck in the world.
Shots taken would really be totally be depending on you on which each of us does have that decision whether its been that involved with too much greed or still having in good control or moderation
towards your spending. There's no way that we could really be able to tell on whats the next move because each bettor does have their own actions basing up on what they do
have in mind since from the start. If he wishes to prolong the bet and doesnt really decided to cash out earlier then just let them be.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Coin_trader on October 29, 2023, 10:19:23 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate,

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg


Can you clarify if the currency on the betting slip is in $ or in your local currency because your definition of cashout balance is bit confusing. The cashout amount on the screenshot is not shown while you are looking at the potential win when the match is win.

I’m assuming that the currency on this bet slip is not in $ that’s why you convert it to USD.

seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.

The amount Stake shows how huge the bankroll of this user. The odds is 2.7 which means this kind of bet has highly chance of losing. There’s a lot of confidence on this bet probably due to his bankroll. Clicking cashout while you place this bet aiming to win the potential amount will kill the excitement. Your opinion is based on your personal preference since you don’t have that kind of bankroll but the owner of this consider this money as he can afford to lose which is why he make this bet.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Nwada001 on October 29, 2023, 11:26:52 AM
well , like yours OP if given that kind of chance to withdraw? surely i will take it easily as I have experience so much of that in the past of my gambling addiction.when there are already huge profit and winning but instead of taking our? i decided to gamble all and yes I go home without even Gas Money lol.

I will also do the same thing if the amount I used to wager on the game was really nothing close to this available cash out. Since I have not had such a big win before seeing one like this, I won't want to waste the opportunity as the risk is just too much for me to take.
 
As I have come across many cases of others who have such opportunities of cashing out a large amount, due to how confident he is in the game, he decided not to cash out the game, but it happens the opposite way as the game didn't play in his favour, but that's what makes him a gambler. He has no regrets, and it's one of those things, and it was actually worth the risk.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on October 29, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


        -   Did you actually get into that argument with him, mate? After all, if he hadn't also staked a sizable sum of money, he wouldn't have won as much. Because I used to wonder when I was gambling, When Would I Experience a Big Win?

If I hadn't made a large wager, such thoughts and questions wouldn't have occurred to me. And I can't really win huge because the only wager size I ever use is the minimal 0.2 dollars, and the biggest win I've ever had using this bet size was just about 105 dollars, according to my experience.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Slow death on October 29, 2023, 11:42:40 AM
I confess that I can't understand some things in this post. this barcelona game against real madrid was a game they played in yesterday. Barcelona scored the first goal in the 6th minute of the game, so the odds value for Real Madrid to win the game went up a lot and the value of the money that this guy bet went down a lot, I estimate that if he wanted to make cash he would probably only have 30% of the money he bet, meaning he would be left with a 70% loss. so it is not true that he could cashout in this game and make a profit. And I'll say more, Real Madrid tied the game in the 68th minute and therefore the cashout value would probably be around 50%, meaning the guy who made that bet would have a 50% loss if he cashed out.

another very important point is that real madrid only scored the second goal at 90 + 2 minutes and the bookmakers at 90 minutes they no longer offer a cashout option, at 90 minutes the person who made that bet could no longer withdraw part of the money (make cashout). So OP, this person who made this simple bet could not cashout after 6 minutes of the game, because he would not make a profit. This has nothing to do with greed, I think people need to understand some things before drawing conclusions. In simple bets, it is unlikely that anyone will cashout and make a profit. but in the case of multibet bets things are different.

in a multibet bet with, for example, 8 games, when the person gets 6 games right and 2 games left, then the person can cashout and make a profit. but in OP's case they are faced with a simple bet and a scenario in which it was impossible to cashout and make a profit. just look closely at the result of the game:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/29/TiuMq.png


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: so98nn on October 29, 2023, 12:04:11 PM
Gambling is surely not the topic of debate but it is all about how you see it personally. If I was this guy then I think I would have cashed out already. There is no point for me in going way further than this if I am satisfied with my bet. If it is in green and I see a clear b button with cashout on it then I am definitely stopping myself. I would usually end up taking a break after winning and might come way later to enjoy the gambling again. Most of the peeps in the name of gambling go way ahead in betting the amounts (greedy). The risk is when you start spending money that is not your expense quota or maybe it is getting deducted from your savings account. If that situation arises then man, such a person is not really thinking straight, and it's risky.  He can hamper all his finances in the blink of an eye when you trade or gamble to that level. It's not an argument of what you will earn by taking risks, but it's about what is being staked. Your savings? Your last-moment money?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: topbitcoin on October 29, 2023, 12:21:34 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

This is not a form of greed but luck. and what is called greed in gambling is when someone has won a big win in a bet but he is not satisfied with the win because he wants an even bigger win than that. And in the end he again risked all his winnings in a gambling game. And we also have to remember that greed will never give us any profit, greed will only lead us to big losses in gambling.

This person has dared to do something reckless in his gambling by betting quite a large amount and indeed this is too risky because that person could lose all the money he bet in the blink of an eye. And that person is wise enough because he prefers to withdraw his money rather than having to spend the money again on gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Porfirii on October 29, 2023, 12:33:18 PM
That was a really exciting match, unusual in terms of scoreboard, but that's what you can expect from "El Clásico". After the first goal of Barcelona one could imagine a draw, and Madrid's goal confirmed this belief, but the comeback in the last minute was really surprising for almost everyone.

About the question you posed, it depends on the degree of aversion to risk, and it is not only very personal but also varies depending on the moment. You shouldn't argue with your friend because different points of view, as everyone has his own beliefs, and you might be surprised if you were in such situations.

In my case, I can't surely tell what I'd have done if I was him. When I see television contests I always think like "WTF, why don't you continue? you don't see that the potential prize is much higher than the misery you get if you quit now!?", but I'm sure that my feelings and thoughts would be otherwise if I was in his shoes.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AbuBhakar on October 29, 2023, 12:47:26 PM
I confess that I can't understand some things in this post. this barcelona game against real madrid was a game they played in yesterday. Barcelona scored the first goal in the 6th minute of the game, so the odds value for Real Madrid to win the game went up a lot and the value of the money that this guy bet went down a lot, I estimate that if he wanted to make cash he would probably only have 30% of the money he bet, meaning he would be left with a 70% loss. so it is not true that he could cashout in this game and make a profit. And I'll say more, Real Madrid tied the game in the 68th minute and therefore the cashout value would probably be around 50%, meaning the guy who made that bet would have a 50% loss if he cashed out.

If you check his screenshot shared. Cashout value is not visible on the screenshot so probably he mistakenly assumed that the amount in the screenshot next to the stake amount is the cashout value since the cashout button is right below the value on the screenshot he show.

I check too the game when I read this post and it really doesn’t make sense that cashout is available when the enemy team is already score since cashout typically not available after the first half.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: macson on October 29, 2023, 12:47:59 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
snip
in fact, the advice you gave was very good to your friend because the potential for him to lose more while continuing to play would be greater, but I noticed that your friend is someone who is very brave to take high risks.  it will be difficult for you to give advice to people who like to take big risks because they will have made quite a large profit even though the capital spent is quite large, just look at how your friend lives in the real world, if he really still has a comfortable life and if he is not in debt and his relationship with his family remains harmonious then he is definitely a responsible gambler and able to manage his finances well, so let him stick with his thoughts.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hamphser on October 29, 2023, 12:59:27 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
snip
in fact, the advice you gave was very good to your friend because the potential for him to lose more while continuing to play would be greater, but I noticed that your friend is someone who is very brave to take high risks.  it will be difficult for you to give advice to people who like to take big risks because they will have made quite a large profit even though the capital spent is quite large, just look at how your friend lives in the real world, if he really still has a comfortable life and if he is not in debt and his relationship with his family remains harmonious then he is definitely a responsible gambler and able to manage his finances well, so let him stick with his thoughts.
Giving advises wont really be that bad specially if he was your friend but it would be that ideal that you shouldn't really be forcing him on what to do because he does have the full rights on what he would really be doing in regarding about his bet. If he do listens then its good but if its not then its none of your business, its their money so its their right on how they would really be handling it out. There are indeed
people who are really that risk takers even if they do have the chance on securing profit but still they have decided to proceed further or could really be able to take up the risks.
Greed? Its totally normal if you are doing gambling on which its matter of winning and losing and since we do know that it is really just that good for fun then it would really be just that alright that you would
really be dealing with it. It is really just that important that you should really know on setting up the limits or else you would really be that messing up your finances.

Risk is there but its not really that needing that extreme thinking but rather it is really just that common sense on which you could really be able to avoid those risks if you are really that wary.
People do mess up their lives if they would really be losing off their control.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dothebeats on October 29, 2023, 01:06:31 PM
I wouldn't have said the same thing if I know that that person knows a lot more than me when it comes to the game that they're betting on.

I'm an opinionated man, though I keep my opinion where my knowledge is. If I think something is wrong with the trail of thought of the person I'm speaking with, but I don't have enough knowledge about the topic we're discussing, I'd rather go on his own way and not interfere anymore.

Perhaps there's something that that bettor knows compared to us. Perhaps he knows a lot of more detailed stats hence why he never cashed out. We'll never know until the conclusion of the game. Also, that feature from the bookies is a way for them to minimize their losses, especially if the outcome is already obvious and they want to persuade the gambler to think that it could go wrong really quick.

That bet ended up winning btw.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: goaldigger on October 29, 2023, 01:10:01 PM
It's his money and it's his call, if your friend is ready for the risk then so be it.
We might see this as an opportunity already to take profit but your friend is still willing to go for more, and whatever the result is I'm sure your friend will be fine since he's more confident and responsible for his action. Being greedy is not that bad, sometimes if you see a good opportunity you become more greedy and it can be rewarding too. As a friend, better to just support him/her not unless if that decision can really harm your friend.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: komisariatku on October 29, 2023, 04:22:12 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.

If it's your friend's WhatsApp status, maybe you can ask him whether it was his own bet or taken from the internet. You can also estimate whether your friend has that much money or not

In my opinion, whether you are greedy or not depends on the gambler's financial condition. If he has a lot of money of course the value of 1,000,000 is not that big, but if he only has that money and gambles using all that money in one football match then that is no longer greed but stupidity.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Haunebu on October 29, 2023, 04:32:32 PM
Personally, I would let it ride all the way instead of cashing out regardless of whether the bet won or lost because I am a yolo punter and I live by the all-in philosophy most of the time in gambling.

He probably felt the same way too. You could say that I am greedy for sure in this situation, but it's not a con since I am willing to lose my investment.

If he was willing to lose his investment, good on him. If not, he is truly dumb as hell.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Agbe on October 29, 2023, 05:25:04 PM
Lolz!!! This normal for gamblers. Op your friend is chronic gambler and that is he is an addicted gambler because if the person is not an addicted gambler, he would have a second thought of making the Cash out. Because that is a profit of 1.7m. He might be sure that the complete game will enter and at this stage anything can happen. Though what your friend said is also the truth because as a gambler, you must have that mindset of taking risk but it must be a calculated risk and when the game finally entered then your risk becomes well calculated one and when it cut them you blame yourself for not cashing out. As for me it is a good Cash out. Not everyone will have the liver to keep that cash out to be continued oh. Because the stake is also huge and the Cash out is nice, you are not losing so it is better to Cash out. Though that is risk but it is more of greed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hispo on October 29, 2023, 05:31:10 PM
When we talk about concepts like Greed and Risk, usually believe they are pretty much together when comes to gambling and investing.
That person felt greedy, so decided to take a risk, that is how it usually works in these kind of scenarios.
Rarely, anyone would feel like taking risks if there is not for the sake of money. Risk does not come in first.

Personally, I would let it ride all the way instead of cashing out regardless of whether the bet won or lost because I am a yolo punter and I live by the all-in philosophy most of the time in gambling.

He probably felt the same way too. You could say that I am greedy for sure in this situation, but it's not a con since I am willing to lose my investment.

If he was willing to lose his investment, good on him. If not, he is truly dumb as hell.

I also generally think it is easier to go all-or-nothing when it is about betting and whether it is money one is willing to lose and let go. There will be people who in the mid time of their betting may feel like going safer and claim a partial win over their wager. Trading is more suitable for doing those kind of calculations, because doing something like cashing out in the middle of a match implies someone was not ready to lose their wager. At least, that is what I think.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: abel1337 on October 29, 2023, 05:53:22 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
I wouldn't even try to debate if I'm on that situation. I wouldn't want to be blamed if something happened that is blamable to you. It's his bet, his money and his responsibility. I would probably give him a support and cheer with his decision.

We all have different perspective on a situation like that and if you ask me, I would probably continue until I was satisfied knowing that I will do a research first and be confident with my bet. It's a good opportunity to withdraw but the lust you will experience when your plans that you cancelled won.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: tusandii on October 29, 2023, 06:38:46 PM
After I read the whole several replies had the same opinion and maybe my opinion would be the same if it wasn't all greed but just trying to prove whether he has the right predictive ability because like me myself when I can cashout the winnings that are already in front of my eyes but the match not finished yet I prefer to keep it out of curiosity to test myself whether my prediction is correct and if it is correct I will have a sense of pride for breaking the record of very correct predictions and in my scenario it is not about the money but about the satisfaction of the achievement that I get.
So it's up to that person because maybe he has goals that we don't know about and maybe it would be better if you didn't argue with him, it would just waste your time.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Saint-loup on October 29, 2023, 06:39:51 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
You should be careful with this picture "Pot. Win" means Potential Win it doesn't mean cashout value offered. So unless it's a special promotion or a glitch from the app, I don't think your friend was able to cashout his bet @2.73 before the start of the match, and even before its end since the last goal has been scored in the 92nd minute by Jude Bellingham(for Madrid), it was the 1-2 goal which is the final score while Barça scored the first goal of the match in the 6th minute. So I think your friend would have been a surprise if he thought he was able to get that money at that time.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Bushdark on October 29, 2023, 07:13:49 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
This is a dangerous bet and it is only people that have large amount of funds that can bet on this kind of game with huge capital. I don't see this kind of game as a greed since the player is believe to have enough funds to bet on this kind of game. Those who have the fund can bet on something like this with confidence and if they lose, they will have no one to blame. Gambling is more about the risk we are taking and the amount we want to make. If we are okay if the future results, we can go on but if it is the contrary, we can decide to leave it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on October 29, 2023, 09:50:57 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
  I won’t call this greed, he saw an opportunity and he was willing to take whatever risk that might be the outcome.. In gambling then is always two possible outcomes it’s either you win or you lose. No matter what outcome it may be it left for the person to bear. Everyone has the freedom to do what ever they want to do as long their decision is not affecting others. We should minimize the way we criticize others on their decisions. But then before one will place such amount on a bet he should have done his research on who is favorite to win.
 If the bet wins (which it did ) will you still call it greed ?  No!! rather you will wish why you didn’t play that’s how life is they won’t encourage you when you are starting but when they starts seeing results they will want to clap for you and even follow your footsteps. Without risk they’re are no rewards. But before you take any risk first know if the risk is worth taking and it’s effect it will have on you if it doesn’t go in your favor. Not every risk are worth taking, you just have to use your head in everything you do. That’s just the basic code of life. Your friend saw some potential in the odds and decided to jump on it. He would have probably done his own research in his part to warrant him to play with such amount. It will be all smile for me cause his risk was reward. That’s how it should be when we see opportunity knocking at our door we shouldn’t hesitate to grab it when it’s comes .


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oluwa-btc on October 29, 2023, 10:00:26 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

Whoever played the game knew the risk's involved and must have strong believe in Real Madrid. I also saw the post on Twitter from a punter.
Some years back when Real Madrid played against Juventus during that final, I saw similar high stake. I won't consider this greed no, whoever did was either expecting a win or loss and know what? He had he's profit Yeah?

Why rush for small penny? Lol! Good, though, personally if I did stake such a game, I won't cash out. The money used to stake the game even if lost won't affect me because it'll be easier to replace. I know the risk before jumping in. Congratulations to the punter, most of them showcase this to attract engagement.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: boyptc on October 29, 2023, 10:26:44 PM
You need money? Be greedy and take that money.

You are not greedy? It's just the same as continuing to risk that whether you gamble that again. Are you confident that you'll be able to get that money again? If not, get it and think that the casino might get it back again from you.

Everyone's mindset is all about gettin that money because that's the goal of everyone who gambles and that's to win and take your money as soon as you get wins.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rahmad2nd on October 29, 2023, 10:32:26 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 

Honestly, what should we, you, or gamblers actually debate about in their gambling cases, as is the title of this thread. the question is, what is the essence of the debate you have with your friend? What is certain is that it will only bring justifications for ourselves according to our habits and thought patterns.The point is, every gambler has different habits and also a different mindset.
In this case, the casino only offers the options they give us. there are only two choices, take it, or keep going.
For someone who thinks it is greed, let it be, someone has the right to what they think and even their habits. For those who are confident and have the habit of always waiting for the results until the match is decided, there is nothing wrong with that and it has nothing to do with greed.

But what is clear is that everything we bet on is always related to risk.
Firstly, we are well aware that betting requires money as a medium. Every bet always involves risks involved. Winning and losing are normal things. After all, aren't we well aware of the essence of betting? for anyone cashing in like you said in this post. There is nothing wrong with that, after all it is someone who makes the choice, and all decisions are in the hands of the gambler. However, if it turns out that the results of the match match predictions, someone must be sincere, because he has cashed in first. however, if it is the other way around, someone is lucky to avoid loss. In essence, every choice a person makes is completely theirs. As for the casino, they only offer features to their users.

For me personally, as soon as I make betting options. I won't check it again, let the game run until it's over. If I win, I'm lucky, if I lose, what can I do, it's all part of the risk anyway. the only greed in this case, a gamble that is not ours, we claim it to cash out. then, we ask for a share so that we can get money from the bet. By the way, greed has a broad meaning, depending on how we understand it and respond to it. Regarding risk, this is an inseparable part of gambling. Well, that's my understanding. If you don't agree with what I said, it all depends on our own understanding.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Casdinyard on October 29, 2023, 10:57:27 PM
Thing is, it's great and all to lock in your wins and earn your keep, but there are people who gamble for the thrill of it and not for the profit. Do we persecute them for making risky choices out of the fact that they are driven by the excitement that these types of games bring to them? I don't think so. Sometimes "greed" is good, but only if we're doing it in such controlled scenarios wherein you still greed for shit, but not necessarily for the money. Am I making sense lol, I feel like I got off into tangent.

In any case the only thing that matters really when you gamble is that you don't succumb to revenge gambling, once you're able to successfully get over that you're good to go.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: redsun114 on October 30, 2023, 06:09:50 AM
It's not always about greed, someone who can afford to take the risk would obviously do it if they wouldn't be bothered much even if they lose the bet after not cashing out. It all depends on the mindset and the financial situation of the person who has made the bet, someone who doesn't have a lot of money and has used everything they had on the bet and is getting a good return would probably cash out before it's too late, but someone who knows that they can afford to take the risk and they might get a higher reward wouldn't do it, of course.

So, we shouldn't really judge people like that, whatever we think, we should keep it to ourselves since everyone has their own perspective for seeing things, and everyone has different situations and conditions in their lives that may differ from ours and we might be judging them based on what we are going through or thinking about.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Outhue on October 30, 2023, 07:22:57 AM
It's greed, if it's me I would have cash out and enjoy my win, I don't know why people go extra lent on something that they don't sweat on, this is free money we are talking about, the fact is nothing is free and that's why gambling seems hard, because we are all chasing free money, this isn't going to come easily compare to chasing life goals through hard working, this is why many gamblers always lose, because they are chasing free money.

Even after they win they still believe there is more, I don't know where they get their minds, hoping from something they break no single sweat on, when free money comes you take it with no complains, been greedy on free money is the most stupid thing anyone can do.

He is lucky this time but I am sure with the mindset he carries around he will be in trouble sooner or later, this method ain't going to last for him, he is a good example of a greedy gambler, they always learn after everything that's related to their gambling strategy goes against them.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Assface16678 on October 30, 2023, 08:26:55 AM
Well, the image shows that your friend takes the risk. We can't say that it is greedy, as shown he is that your friend bet a huge amount of money and if it was really his bet, then he earned a lot of profit, which is a good thing. As they say big risk means big profit, he takes the risk maybe because he's so sure about his bet. I'm sure your friend is not dumped to go into a bet where he will be in a bad situation. If so, then that's what we call greedy or, let's say, an irresponsible gambler. Imagine betting that huge amount of money on a bet. You are not sure if it will be on your side. That's too much risk. I'm like your friend if I'm sure about the bet I will too take the risk because why not, if I'm really sure about the odds then take it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 30, 2023, 09:45:55 AM
Was your friend the one who placed the bet? It was greed if your friend didn't immediately cash it in because after all, your friend has already earned that much money and he still wants more. He would be truly lucky if he could win it to the end. But if not, he will only regret it because he has wasted this golden opportunity. He may not get such great results another day because that golden opportunity might rarely come his way again. If that happens to us, we should immediately cash out rather than wait until the end, where there is no guarantee we can win. But that's up to him because it's his money and we don't have any responsibility to him.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fzkto on October 30, 2023, 09:52:08 AM
You need money? Be greedy and take that money.

You are not greedy? It's just the same as continuing to risk that whether you gamble that again. Are you confident that you'll be able to get that money again? If not, get it and think that the casino might get it back again from you.

Everyone's mindset is all about gettin that money because that's the goal of everyone who gambles and that's to win and take your money as soon as you get wins.
It is the psychology of a greedy person becoming even greedier because of the opportunity to get money. Therefore, he runs the risk of losing his personal money. The casino is never at a loss, so all this psychological things have long been well calculated mathematically. Winning is much less common than losing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: moneystery on October 30, 2023, 10:15:40 AM
different people must have different opinions, some say that it is greed, some say it's a matter of risk. but i have the view that it is a risk. he took the risk of gambling the amount of money and hoped that he got the reward. maybe he has his own analysis and believes that he can win the bet. moreover, he seemed confident that the team he held could win so he did not hesitate that gamble of that much money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: peter0425 on October 30, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
well , like yours OP if given that kind of chance to withdraw? surely i will take it easily as I have experience so much of that in the past of my gambling addiction.when there are already huge profit and winning but instead of taking our? i decided to gamble all and yes I go home without even Gas Money lol.

I will also do the same thing if the amount I used to wager on the game was really nothing close to this available cash out. Since I have not had such a big win before seeing one like this, I won't want to waste the opportunity as the risk is just too much for me to take.
 
As I have come across many cases of others who have such opportunities of cashing out a large amount, due to how confident he is in the game, he decided not to cash out the game, but it happens the opposite way as the game didn't play in his favour, but that's what makes him a gambler. He has no regrets, and it's one of those things, and it was actually worth the risk.

yes mate , that is the best action in this situation specially that we are not that rich to risk more , let those addicted gambler do that but we that have a great understanding about money? lets not to the same.
and hoping that the one who had that picture do the same , to save his good amount risking and crying after that result .
gambling is not for all the time ,  we have a limit in luck access so when you already have this then better to get out .


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Docnaster on October 30, 2023, 10:39:53 AM
different people must have different opinions, some say that it is greed, some say it's a matter of risk. but i have the view that it is a risk. he took the risk of gambling the amount of money and hoped that he got the reward. maybe he has his own analysis and believes that he can win the bet. moreover, he seemed confident that the team he held could win so he did not hesitate that gamble of that much money.
When it comes to gambling, a gambler is expected to be greedy in his decisions sometimes to be able to win big but one thing to be considered is if he'll be able to afford the effects of his greed when it doesn't go his way.
It's is the ability to take risks when necessary that makes one a true gambler. So wether greedy or not, the goal is to win at the end of the day


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 30, 2023, 10:51:40 AM
Maybe there is something I am missing here, or not seeing, or maybe I am just plainly confused, somebody should please correct me just incase I am wrong..

I am not seeing where the cash out amount is written on this bet ticket, what I can see on this ticket is the Stake amount, which is 1,000,000. And then the pot. Win, which means potential winning amount, which is 2,730,000 . Where is the cash out amount written please?

I hope op is not referring/taking the Potential winning amount, as the cashout amount???


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: angrybirdy on October 30, 2023, 11:15:22 AM
different people must have different opinions, some say that it is greed, some say it's a matter of risk. but i have the view that it is a risk. he took the risk of gambling the amount of money and hoped that he got the reward. maybe he has his own analysis and believes that he can win the bet. moreover, he seemed confident that the team he held could win so he did not hesitate that gamble of that much money.
When it comes to gambling, a gambler is expected to be greedy in his decisions sometimes to be able to win big but one thing to be considered is if he'll be able to afford the effects of his greed when it doesn't go his way.
It's is the ability to take risks when necessary that makes one a true gambler. So wether greedy or not, the goal is to win at the end of the day
Well, most of the gamblers tends to be greedy especially if the desire to win is in peak, To the point thaf they will forget all the limitations and bounderies that they've set into theirself. Risk and being greedy has a difference because being greedy is you're not sure on what you are doing, what's on your mind is to gamble and to win, however when it comes to risk, you are aware on your decision and you think it so many time before you proceed on your plan.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: swogerino on October 30, 2023, 11:18:25 AM
There are two sides to the story as there are two sides to the coin flip.Most gamblers would cash out that amount as most gamblers have not that huge amount of money to gamble with as a beginning and to them this bet slip may look like a one in a lifetime opportunity so if they were in the place of the bettor they would cash it out and be very happy about it.

The other side is that if the bettor has enough money only greed can be applied to it if  he let it run risking big to lose money,the one that bring huge risks is the greed but most likely the bettor applies in life the statement "huge risk,huge reward" and as such he does not cash out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: KTChampions on October 30, 2023, 11:31:34 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

This is an individual choice and you will probably make different decisions in different situations, but whatever you choose, you should remember that when you cash out, the casino takes an additional margin from you. From a mathematical point of view, it is better to take a risk and find out whether the bet will work or not.
But of course, if this is a huge amount that you are risking once in your life (in this case, mathematical calculations regarding optimal behavioral strategies are not important), then it is better to make a cash out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Cookdata on October 30, 2023, 12:05:55 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.

I think there is a misinterpretation from your image and the amount to cash out. That ticket was only a single match between Barcelona and Real Madrid bet which means tbe player staked ₦1,000,000 which is equivalent to $865 in dollar according to today's rate and expect Real Madrid to win as an away match of 2.74 odd. The potential win that player is expecting is ₦2,730,000 which is almost 3X amount of what was staked for that game.

You are not going to know amount that you can cashout until you touch "cashout" option, that's when you can cashout some amount and the cashout is dependent on how favorable your game has been. Since he bet on Real Madrid, they were winning toward the 70+ minute, if he want to cash out some amount, he will be allow but will be slightly higher than his staked amount. However, if Real Madrid was losing in that match and you feel like cashing out, you might get half the amount you staked. That's how cashout works.

Coming back why people cashout is all about how you feel along the way on your games. Some people don't mind to see their money gone because they believe so much in their predictions, they don't cashout even if they see cashout options in their tickets.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on October 30, 2023, 01:03:42 PM
Gambling involves both greed and risk since your friend has bet he has taken risk because he has earned a lot. A person is not lucky every time he is really lucky even after betting so much no one can guarantee a win in gambling maybe he knows the right gambling strategies. An experienced gambler analyzes the market and takes risks. He probably has a lot of confidence that he will win this time so he is taking a risky bet so that he doesn't have to regret it later. Maybe he thinks that this kind of opportunity doesn't come often not everyone will take as much risk as your friend and everyone will cash out after winning.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: CODE200 on October 30, 2023, 01:44:44 PM
You need money? Be greedy and take that money.

You are not greedy? It's just the same as continuing to risk that whether you gamble that again. Are you confident that you'll be able to get that money again? If not, get it and think that the casino might get it back again from you.

Everyone's mindset is all about gettin that money because that's the goal of everyone who gambles and that's to win and take your money as soon as you get wins.


I couldn't agree more! You made a good point. I think that all of these boils down on one idea that we have different beliefs and that we perceive gambling differently. And we cannot name someone as 'greedy' just because his/her belief is different than yours. We all have different goals and reasons why we engage in gambling activities. If you wanted to make more money, then be as greedy as you want as long as you held yourself accountable from what can be the result of that greediness. You love taking risk? then do it because no one can tell you otherwise. Or are you someone who wanted to play safe? then might as well be it, because that's your own money and don't let other people tell you that you are boring because you are not that type of gambler who loves taking risks. What I mean is, we all have different playing styles and goals. What we can do is to just let people enjoy things and let them decide for themselves.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Jody.Drummer on October 30, 2023, 02:27:50 PM
different people must have different opinions, some say that it is greed, some say it's a matter of risk. but i have the view that it is a risk. he took the risk of gambling the amount of money and hoped that he got the reward. maybe he has his own analysis and believes that he can win the bet. moreover, he seemed confident that the team he held could win so he did not hesitate that gamble of that much money.
When it comes to gambling, a gambler is expected to be greedy in his decisions sometimes to be able to win big but one thing to be considered is if he'll be able to afford the effects of his greed when it doesn't go his way.
It's is the ability to take risks when necessary that makes one a true gambler. So wether greedy or not, the goal is to win at the end of the day
Well, most of the gamblers tends to be greedy especially if the desire to win is in peak, To the point thaf they will forget all the limitations and bounderies that they've set into theirself. Risk and being greedy has a difference because being greedy is you're not sure on what you are doing, what's on your mind is to gamble and to win, however when it comes to risk, you are aware on your decision and you think it so many time before you proceed on your plan.

Out of 100 people who gamble maybe I will make sure that 80 of them are greedy gamblers, even though they may initially come with the intention of seeking entertainment only but that does not mean it is impossible that in the end there will be a time when they apply their greed, not always in a conscious position but usually they will do it when in an unconscious position, such as for example a very good spin that gives them a win and in such conditions it is certain that sensation and pleasure are enveloping their minds so that they unconsciously apply greed because they think that this is a good opportunity to win in a larger amount. Even though on the other hand there is no guarantee whatsoever for you to win there.

And on the other hand if they are in that condition then yes it is very possible that some of the limits they have previously prepared will not be useful, they will not remember that and all that is on their mind is a big win. The point is that if someone is greedy then they will forget everything, especially the enormous risks that are there. Therefore, I think it is better to gamble normally, if you have won then it is better to withdraw and enjoy the money, rather than being greedy and then finally regretting it because the final result turns out to be worse.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Reatim on October 31, 2023, 06:08:41 AM
Lucky for anyone  who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
Correct that it is very lucky for any one to have that huge Bet slip , never that i experienced such amount for my many years of gambling in crypto or even in any online gambling . (maybe because I am small roller/bettor)

If this is mine , for sure I have already cash out that amount and Bought Bitcoin for the coming halving.
that how smart we must be because there is no continues win in gambling , instead we are all destined to lose so when having this opportunity then grab the win and go home.
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.
that is the confidence we need , but this confidence is mostly the reason why we are losing in gambling  ;D ;D ;) ;)


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on October 31, 2023, 03:51:46 PM
Gambling involves both greed and risk since your friend has bet he has taken risk because he has earned a lot. A person is not lucky every time he is really lucky even after betting so much no one can guarantee a win in gambling maybe he knows the right gambling strategies. An experienced gambler analyzes the market and takes risks. He probably has a lot of confidence that he will win this time so he is taking a risky bet so that he doesn't have to regret it later. Maybe he thinks that this kind of opportunity doesn't come often not everyone will take as much risk as your friend and everyone will cash out after winning.
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. People who do not control themselves will fall into the trap of greed, and they will not realize that it is a mistake they should avoid. At the same time, experienced gamblers will know that greed is already trying to tempt them, but they are not tempted to continue even if they lose. They better stop gambling for the day and leave the casino. Maybe they will return to the casino a few days later, but they don't try to recover their losses because they think that yesterday is over, and they now want to gamble for fun.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: KTChampions on October 31, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. ~

I think this algorithm of emotions works if a person has an addiction (of varying degrees), because if you take simple human instincts/logic, then if you win something, then you need to take it and run away. If you lose, all the more you need to run away because losses are harmful and a person always wants to avoid losses. That is why the main efforts of the casino are aimed at ensuring that players remain in the game for as long as possible because this will cause them to become addicted.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on October 31, 2023, 05:47:16 PM
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. ~

I think this algorithm of emotions works if a person has an addiction (of varying degrees), because if you take simple human instincts/logic, then if you win something, then you need to take it and run away. If you lose, all the more you need to run away because losses are harmful and a person always wants to avoid losses. That is why the main efforts of the casino are aimed at ensuring that players remain in the game for as long as possible because this will cause them to become addicted.

That's quite reasonable, it's true that basically everyone has greed in themselves and for the problem of whether they will be greedy or not in gambling it depends on whether or not the person is addicted, as you said usually greed will occur or be applied by those who are already addicted to a certain level, it is quite difficult to think rationally when they are already addicted because all their thoughts have been instigated by all the temptations that exist in gambling, so maybe I wouldn't blame them too much if they were greedy because it's natural if someone is already in the addiction phase. It's because they're late to the party in terms of prevention at the beginning of their entry into gambling, always overestimating the odds that are clearly uncertain so they unknowingly enter into their addiction.

Running away when they have won maybe that will only be able to be done by those who are not addicted at all, meaning that whose mindset is still quite healthy in viewing gambling which is only about luck, they realize that even if they continue gambling it is not certain they can win again. And yes for casinos, they definitely want gamblers to keep playing because after all, their defeat is a profit for the casino, that's their priority.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 01, 2023, 01:25:47 PM
~snip~
I think this algorithm of emotions works if a person has an addiction (of varying degrees), because if you take simple human instincts/logic, then if you win something, then you need to take it and run away. If you lose, all the more you need to run away because losses are harmful and a person always wants to avoid losses. That is why the main efforts of the casino are aimed at ensuring that players remain in the game for as long as possible because this will cause them to become addicted.
That's what we have to do when gambling, but unfortunately, that's not the case because what happens is that if someone loses, he will tend to continue gambling by depositing his money again if he has run out of money. If he still had money, he would probably use all his money to try to recover his losses. But he didn't have a bigger chance because this was a gamble where one wouldn't be able to win easily. They must accept that they have lost, and it is better to end the gambling game and rest immediately. By doing this, at least they have reduced their desire to continue gambling and can think about what has happened to them so that they can control their gambling more in the future.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 01, 2023, 01:51:31 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on November 01, 2023, 04:41:48 PM
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. ~

I think this algorithm of emotions works if a person has an addiction (of varying degrees), because if you take simple human instincts/logic, then if you win something, then you need to take it and run away. If you lose, all the more you need to run away because losses are harmful and a person always wants to avoid losses. That is why the main efforts of the casino are aimed at ensuring that players remain in the game for as long as possible because this will cause them to become addicted.

That's quite reasonable, it's true that basically everyone has greed in themselves and for the problem of whether they will be greedy or not in gambling it depends on whether or not the person is addicted, as you said usually greed will occur or be applied by those who are already addicted to a certain level, it is quite difficult to think rationally when they are already addicted because all their thoughts have been instigated by all the temptations that exist in gambling, so maybe I wouldn't blame them too much if they were greedy because it's natural if someone is already in the addiction phase. It's because they're late to the party in terms of prevention at the beginning of their entry into gambling, always overestimating the odds that are clearly uncertain so they unknowingly enter into their addiction.

Running away when they have won maybe that will only be able to be done by those who are not addicted at all, meaning that whose mindset is still quite healthy in viewing gambling which is only about luck, they realize that even if they continue gambling it is not certain they can win again. And yes for casinos, they definitely want gamblers to keep playing because after all, their defeat is a profit for the casino, that's their priority.
There is a chance that the allure of gambling holds the mind like a vice, blocking out logical thought with the allure of winning. This idea of protection, or rather the lack of it, at the start does make you think.

what does it really mean to "run away" after a win? Is it a show of how strong you are or just a short-lived victory over your natural greed? Furthermore, it is clear that the casino is keeping this loop going because it wants to make money. It makes you think about who is responsible and the constant battle between doing the right thing and making money. Indeed, a very complicated fabric.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Huppercase on November 01, 2023, 05:25:43 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.

I don't get how some gamblers have so much confidence to stake huge amount of money on a single game. The risk is high and to make the ticket worse, he bet on a game that is highly competitive, match like Elclasico is not something I will want to put huge amount of money on, the odds might he tempting as he was given a straight win of Real Madrid over Barcelona but when the match began, it was Barcelona that open the match with a goal, I wonder how tense he will be during that match.

Risk to ratio should always be far >>> than the amount you are trying to stake in match. Like staking 100k in any amount to get 270k is too risky for me but I can stake low amount on such type of single games because even anything should later happen to my prediction, I will not feel any pain of losing money. If I even go high in this kind of situation, then I will know that I have exceeded my limit of gambling, not longer for fun but waste of my resources.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Weawant on November 01, 2023, 06:05:34 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
I don't consider that as greed especially if the cash out isn't up to your capital you actually staked with, cashing out below your stake is still loss but I'd the cash out is above your stake and you think the game may end against your prediction I think it's safer to cash out.

Gambling generally is all about risk, even staking such amount on a single game it's risk, so for you to win, you must be willing to take some amount of risk as if you don't risk anything you don't win or loose anything aswell, that game I'm sure did went in his favourite because Madrid wom against Barcelona so he was rewarded from his risk. It's most reasonable with game you have some level of certainty with.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: knowngunman on November 01, 2023, 06:09:52 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

To me cashing out depends on the game but I don't normally see cash out as best option. That's why I don't like checking my bets when I have placed them. Whenever I placed a bet, I use to assume that the money has gone or might in return in fold but cashing out is not part of plan. I don't want anything to tempt me. Seeing cashing seems to make one confuse and make you to think too much with assumption of what to do with the money and some time before you should even conclude your decision, the game has changed direction again.

Instead of thinking about it as money that's yours, you could think of it as a number on a screen. That way, you can make a more rational decision about whether to cash out or not. So, I would just allow the game to settle itself and free myself from thinking on whether I am being greedy, I already took the risk.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 01, 2023, 06:30:14 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.

That's right, there's no reason for you to keep chasing the win by increasing your playing time and increasing your budget because there's absolutely no guarantee of winning. It's really just about luck and whether or not you get lucky in your sessions, the fact is that one can never know when they're going to get lucky and walk away with a win, if it was predictable then there wouldn't be gamblers who suffer so many losses.

Taking a risk that you can be responsible for a bad result is better than putting a large amount out of greed and assuming that the winnings will be greater, the question is what if you lose? Yes you will be silent and maybe cry. So there is no reason whatsoever for you to chase victory and be greedy, everything goes randomly based on individual luck, there are no guarantees and certainties. You should pay attention to this statement it seems.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Yatsan on November 01, 2023, 06:35:55 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.

That's right, there's no reason for you to keep chasing the win by increasing your playing time and increasing your budget because there's absolutely no guarantee of winning. It's really just about luck and whether or not you get lucky in your sessions, the fact is that one can never know when they're going to get lucky and walk away with a win, if it was predictable then there wouldn't be gamblers who suffer so many losses.

Taking a risk that you can be responsible for a bad result is better than putting a large amount out of greed and assuming that the winnings will be greater, the question is what if you lose? Yes you will be silent and maybe cry. So there is no reason whatsoever for you to chase victory and be greedy, everything goes randomly based on individual luck, there are no guarantees and certainties. You should pay attention to this statement it seems.
Will always depend on your next move.
It is not greedy to best a huge amount ‘coz for sure you know to yourself the consequences of doing so. Greed is indeed when you already won but is seeking for more or that you will do it again hoping to get the same result. Point is to play it safely as much as possible. Everyone’s free to take the risk of betting huge but always make sure that it’ll be an amount inside your betting and losing tolerance. There are just people who o ly embraces the risk but never the consequences. Either you win or lose, what would matter the most is how well would you be in any outcome?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: goxcraft on November 01, 2023, 07:16:01 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
It's his money. It's his decision. You can't just tell someone a greedy person, even if that person is your friend. He has his own reason to bet that much. You can try to make him change his mind, advise him, or correct him, but you can't judge him. If he doesn't understand the mistakes he is making, I'm sure your words won't matter anyway. Most of the time, it's not the risk or greed. It's an addiction that all gamblers have. It's the worst kind of addiction one can have. Believe me, I know, I have been there.

Is your friend a professional gambler or just someone who gambles just for fun?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Renampun on November 01, 2023, 07:25:30 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
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how can you suggest something like this to your friend who is someone who likes gambling, they won't listen to what you say, besides I'm sure he is able to make a profit in every gambling activity he does, he knows what he is doing when he gambles, so when you suggest he withdraw all his winnings and stop it is an insult he feels. If I were you, then I would just congratulate that friend and maybe even ask him for some advice that I can try when betting.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oilacris on November 01, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
...

how can you suggest something like this to your friend who is someone who likes gambling, they won't listen to what you say, besides I'm sure he is able to make a profit in every gambling activity he does, he knows what he is doing when he gambles, so when you suggest he withdraw all his winnings and stop it is an insult he feels. If I were you, then I would just congratulate that friend and maybe even ask him for some advice that I can try when betting.
For sure they wont listen and who the heck are you, would really be that getting involved with their best on the first place? Its their money and its none of your business on how they would really be gonna doing it.  :). As a friend then it would be normal that you would really be giving some advises but dont make out those kind of words on which it seems that you are really that commanding him on doing such thing but rather it would really be that so suggested that just let him be on what are the things that he would really be tending on doing so because if it turns out to be that kind of bossy approach
on telling him to cash out even if he dont want to then it might really be that resulting with that kind of result on which it might be ending up for having those kind of friendship issues
specially if your friend does really give out importance on the things that he's been doing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: skarais on November 01, 2023, 08:08:14 PM
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For sure they wont listen and who the heck are you, would really be that getting involved with their best on the first place? Its their money and its none of your business on how they would really be gonna doing it.  :)
Of course, it was his money and he was solely responsible for whatever he planned to use it for next. Even if he wins more, no one has the right to argue about what is best for him especially about how he spends. When we are not responsible for the risks he takes, then what is the importance of us telling him how best to spend them (unless he asks for advice).


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Mr.suevie on November 01, 2023, 08:09:19 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.
I won't call it greed because,for some gamblers this particular type of game is actually normal, even the staked amount and example of such gamblers would be drake the musician, he can attain such wins and still decide to gamble or the money on another ticket or game to actually win more which for him is actually normal because he has the funds already but for other gamblers it will be a different matter.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: passwordnow on November 01, 2023, 08:26:47 PM
Me too.
If I am the one who already has that amount, I won't have any doubts about myself and I'll take the money so that it is not going to be taken away from me. But if you feel that money is going to be sufficient as your new bankroll, try to take out what you have started with. It's best when you get to secure your money back. So we want to say that don't be greedy and don't take risk anymore and just be happy, go home with the money and take it. Well, we don't have the same mindsets because someone might just go for the push and gamble for more with that if he thinks that he can win some more.

And that's the reason why we see gamblers regret because of the decision that should have been made that they need to get out and have that money, removing the risk and the greediness by withdrawing but they do the opposite.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Bananington on November 01, 2023, 08:47:06 PM
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Some people are patient to see their bets out to the end, while some people are not, do what you are comfortable with, you do not need to follow what others do. If you are comfortable with cashing out what you have won, you do so, but if you have it in you to wait, then wait. It is not always greed, sometimes it is believe!


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: wheelz1200 on November 01, 2023, 09:14:51 PM
Crazy risk and gamble.  But yeah I see those crazy parlay slips that are like 13 or 14 leg and down to 1 game.  It would be tough to not cash out and just cut your losses.  But I guess everyone has a price and everyone has a level of risk they are willing to take.  Guaranteed money is tough to turn down for me.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Finestream on November 01, 2023, 09:57:42 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
You will never win in gambling if you decide not to take risk. Of course, you should risk some amount but it doesn't mean that you risk all your hard-earned money, that is already being greedy. However, if the bettor here has a huge bank roll, then probably he only risk on his comfort zone, even if it means that's too much on our part.

To be honest, if you are a regular gambler, risk and greed are present one way or another. Meaning, you risk some huge amount because there is greed in you that's irresistible, and the only way to make it possible is by betting above your comfort zone at some point. But if you want to play safe, just gamble an amount that you can afford to lose, you still  have your greed but you know how to control it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 01, 2023, 09:59:09 PM
Bruuuhh!!! That's so lame to think of!! How could who ever is behind that ticket bet a single game with such a stake?? For real??.. uhmmm

even if I'm supposed to believe that to be true, what's the possibility of getting away with a win in the game?...  Side of view: I seriously see this to be propelled by greed ... nothing more. Maybe he feels it's just so easy to get away with a win in games between two strong teams like that.. especially when the odds between them teams are kinda identical.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 02, 2023, 03:32:38 PM
That's quite reasonable, it's true that basically everyone has greed in themselves and for the problem of whether they will be greedy or not in gambling it depends on whether or not the person is addicted, as you said usually greed will occur or be applied by those who are already addicted to a certain level, it is quite difficult to think rationally when they are already addicted because all their thoughts have been instigated by all the temptations that exist in gambling, so maybe I wouldn't blame them too much if they were greedy because it's natural if someone is already in the addiction phase. It's because they're late to the party in terms of prevention at the beginning of their entry into gambling, always overestimating the odds that are clearly uncertain so they unknowingly enter into their addiction.

Running away when they have won maybe that will only be able to be done by those who are not addicted at all, meaning that whose mindset is still quite healthy in viewing gambling which is only about luck, they realize that even if they continue gambling it is not certain they can win again. And yes for casinos, they definitely want gamblers to keep playing because after all, their defeat is a profit for the casino, that's their priority.
There is a chance that the allure of gambling holds the mind like a vice, blocking out logical thought with the allure of winning. This idea of protection, or rather the lack of it, at the start does make you think.

what does it really mean to "run away" after a win? Is it a show of how strong you are or just a short-lived victory over your natural greed? Furthermore, it is clear that the casino is keeping this loop going because it wants to make money. It makes you think about who is responsible and the constant battle between doing the right thing and making money. Indeed, a very complicated fabric.

Yes it is possible and there is a point because the attraction of gambling is very extraordinary, as we know that the final result is usually always not in accordance with what is expected but strangely many people are getting more and more involved in gambling, maybe one of the causes in my opinion is the word "opportunity", they are too exaggerated in interpreting what is meant by opportunities in gambling, yes it is a chance to win, I understand that but I think they have also proven it themselves that the fact that always happens in the final session is defeat. And besides that, they do not pay attention to what they should understand when they are involved in gambling at the beginning, don't let you be careless by not preparing anything at all at the beginning, because it will be fatal if you are late and end up with regret.

No other than because it is better, if indeed they have managed to get a win then it is better to go and enjoy the victory, rather than you put greed with very high hopes for greater results, but not the final result is always unpredictable, right? Therefore it is better for you to take precautions by running away after winning, it is better than you play another greedy but eventually lose. Of course the casino will expect you to lose, it's their profit and their goal.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: danherbias07 on November 02, 2023, 03:53:48 PM
Both.
It's greed and risk. Maybe your friend just believed that the team he is rooting for can really win that game but it ended up bad. The greed factor is, there's really a big difference when you win it all rather than cashing it out early.
Some will play safe like I do and perhaps I will cash it out because of the amount that is on the line. But a gambler will always be a gambler. They won x5 and it's not enough. Some won x1000 and still not enough because they feel like it's their lucky day. If I were you I wouldn't debate this matter because gamblers have different kinds of approaches when it comes to their bets.
Earlier I had a long parlay that was winning but because of the small amount that I put into it I didn't try to cash it out and I wanted to see how it would end. Sadly, it didn't win but I don't regret it much because I can afford the losses that I made.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Shamm on November 02, 2023, 03:55:45 PM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: justdimin on November 02, 2023, 04:56:10 PM
That was pure luck, and for me he just take the risk and that risk was worth it. If he has to take another risk I can call that a greedy move. If I was the one won that amount I will surely cash it out because that is enough for me and my family to survive.
I don't think it's pure luck because this is sports betting. The guy could also be skillful because he is confident that he will win and he didn't cash out early. Gambling is all about taking risks no matter what type of game we are playing, as long as our goal is to earn a profit. If not, it can simply give us an entertainment. Since the guy is already successful, I think it's fine to allocate some money to try again.

I am not sure if it's a greedy move but it may be, if he keeps on playing and using all what he won earlier. Not all have the same appetite for gambling. Maybe yours is lower than him but other than that, you also think about others. Your a good guy.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 02, 2023, 05:43:03 PM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.

However, in my opinion, if someone gets a big win, they will most likely increase the bet value because at this time greed will take over them so they are not satisfied with what they get, of course this will be bad for them by increasing the value of a small bet to possibly get a bigger win.
It's true that you said it's up to them although withdrawing everything is the best option but it seems difficult to withdraw everything because those who are dominated by greed think this is an opportunity for them to get bigger. However, many of the gamblers I think will return to play by increasing the value of the bet because of the dissatisfaction they feel even with the risk of losing back the winnings they get, I myself think that winning big and increasing the value of the bet will actually spend everything they get back. Because opportunities don't come twice.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: coolcoinz on November 02, 2023, 06:02:24 PM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.


Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.

If it's his friend then it might be his business. I talk with friends about various things and we don't tell each other in a rude way to do this or that, but we share opinions. It all depends on how you say it.

As for the second argument that you have, when the button is green, allowing you to click it, or press with your finger in case of a phone, the money is available. Before that the button is inactive and usually gray. It's a common thing, especially in parlay bets that they allow players to take smaller profit half way through their games.

I'd probably take the money and not wait until the end.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Vaculin on November 02, 2023, 07:31:32 PM
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. ~

I think this algorithm of emotions works if a person has an addiction (of varying degrees), because if you take simple human instincts/logic, then if you win something, then you need to take it and run away. If you lose, all the more you need to run away because losses are harmful and a person always wants to avoid losses. That is why the main efforts of the casino are aimed at ensuring that players remain in the game for as long as possible because this will cause them to become addicted.
I believe whether you're addicted to gambling or not, greed is always there. The only difference is that there is higher greed that has been developed when you are already addicted in gambling, and because of that the urge to gamble more becomes more uncontrollable as well.

However, both greed and risk are undeniably present in a gambler. The moment you spend your money to bet without any assurance to get returns or not, that is already taking a risk regardless of the amount. After all, you really need to take risk for you to win, big or small. And the bigger the amount you take risk, the higher the greed you developed, the lesser the amount you bet, it seems the more controllable your greed is.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dunfida on November 02, 2023, 07:37:29 PM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.

However, in my opinion, if someone gets a big win, they will most likely increase the bet value because at this time greed will take over them so they are not satisfied with what they get, of course this will be bad for them by increasing the value of a small bet to possibly get a bigger win.
It's true that you said it's up to them although withdrawing everything is the best option but it seems difficult to withdraw everything because those who are dominated by greed think this is an opportunity for them to get bigger. However, many of the gamblers I think will return to play by increasing the value of the bet because of the dissatisfaction they feel even with the risk of losing back the winnings they get, I myself think that winning big and increasing the value of the bet will actually spend everything they get back. Because opportunities don't come twice.
Greed is something that it is really hard to control and does really need up that internal discipline and really that mindful about on the things that must done. Easy to say but it is really hard to be done on the time that you are on such situation on which there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that able to do such thing on point. On the time that you are on such condition seeing that your bet is winning and would be having that early cash out opportunity then for sure it would really be that disrupt up your initial plans considering that you would really be thinking about those probabilities of comeback and might be resulting into losses of those bets which you do see that it is really that a sure win but we know as long the game isnt over there's always a chance or tendency for comeback.

Somehow, its none others business on what you would gonna do with your bet since its your money and you do have the full rights whether you would really be pushing it through or would really be cashing it out earlier.
There are really just those people who cant really just that bare up the risks and would really be going on the safer side of things but we do also know that there are
really people who are really that risk takers and could really do able to bare up with those risks involved.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: lizarder on November 02, 2023, 07:46:12 PM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
The way of thinking of people who actively gamble will always be different from people who only gamble for fun. For us, maybe that much money would be much better if it was withdrawn first and left in a certain amount for future betting needs. But for some people their views will never be in line with our thoughts, there is no debate on this issue and it would probably be quite stupid for us to debate in such conditions.

No matter how rational your argument is, it will not be useful to them and will still not make them agree with your thoughts. That's how gambling affects people's attitudes and your way of thinking will always be different from theirs. So stop arguing and for those who like to take risks it's not a big deal because they have often done that long before you knew.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Iroh on November 02, 2023, 07:59:11 PM
Well, it’s his bet and he can do what he wants to do. He fully knows the risk and wants to keep on holding out till the end. I personally don’t think greed may be at play here but I may be wrong. But whatever the case, the player is obviously aware of the opportunity he has to withdraw a considerable amount and still choose to hold on.
Greed is also a possibility here. I’ve also had someone I know lose out after having an opportunity like this. Perhaps, having high hopes and thinking more about the amount to be gotten, he decided to hold on till the end of the game and ultimately lost out in the end. It’s really all about taking the risks and bearing the outcome later on.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ajiz138 on November 02, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
The way of thinking of people who actively gamble will always be different from people who only gamble for fun. For us, maybe that much money would be much better if it was withdrawn first and left in a certain amount for future betting needs. But for some people their views will never be in line with our thoughts, there is no debate on this issue and it would probably be quite stupid for us to debate in such conditions.

No matter how rational your argument is, it will not be useful to them and will still not make them agree with your thoughts. That's how gambling affects people's attitudes and your way of thinking will always be different from theirs. So stop arguing and for those who like to take risks it's not a big deal because they have often done that long before you knew.
Maybe with that much money for an active gambler is not an addiction he will definitely continue to give arguments so as not to lose the debate, while the one who has fun in gambling will not spend much to hundreds of dollars unless he is an active gambler with the expectation of winning more than that, so it is necessary to ignore this kind of debate is definitely not going to be in line because we certainly think that money is very valuable for other purposes than gambling completely.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: uchegod-21 on November 02, 2023, 08:29:21 PM
This is a game,  no matter the amount involved.  Gambling is all about risk taking. Your friend is only trying his luck, if he wins then it's fine. And if he loses, its still his business. I wouldn't want to tag it as greed. Every gambler has these atom of greed in them, we always want more and we expect a win from every gamble whether we are Gambling for the money or for fun. If he is matured enough to accept the outcome of the gamble , then let him carry on. Gambling is risk.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Roseline492 on November 02, 2023, 08:54:13 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
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Well I wouldn't blame the person if they wishes to allow the game play to the end, considering the fact that most people are very wealthy that even a lose of 1 million will not even affect them in anyway, so whenever they play a game and it gives them a reasonable cash out they don't bother considering it because which ever way the game turn out to be he will not be affected emotionally or otherwise.

So I cannot call it a greed but instead is a risk, but however if a poor man has that kind of cash out and refuses to accept perhaps we could call it a greed.

So for me in as much as I'm sure on the possibility of wining the bet, I will always accept a reasonable cash out if there is any because anything can happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 02, 2023, 09:07:23 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
It can be both, maybe your friend knows exactly what they are doing and they are simply taking the best odds possible for their bet and they have good chances of winning it, which seems to be exactly what it happened, however this does not necessarily discard the possibility that this was because of their greed as well, as betting that amount of money in a single match is simply too much, unless your friend is a professional gambler or he has way more money than that saved and they can allow themselves to make such bets.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Docnaster on November 02, 2023, 09:14:59 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
It can be both, maybe your friend knows exactly what they are doing and they are simply taking the best odds possible for their bet and they have good chances of winning it, which seems to be exactly what it happened, however this does not necessarily discard the possibility that this was because of their greed as well, as betting that amount of money in a single match is simply too much, unless your friend is a professional gambler or he has way more money than that saved and they can allow themselves to make such bets.
When it comes to sporting gambling, I think anyone who wants to be successful in it needs to be greedy at some point in other to be able to win massively.
That being said, I think there should be a limit to everything one is doing with the picture I saw, I think it's excessive greed which isn't advisable for your friend not to cash out such amount of money and considering the amount be used in staking the game. In sport betting, there's no game that's very easy to predict the outcome so it's greed taken too far not to accept to cash out such amount of money


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 03, 2023, 10:08:03 AM
Both.
It's greed and risk. Maybe your friend just believed that the team he is rooting for can really win that game but it ended up bad. The greed factor is, there's really a big difference when you win it all rather than cashing it out early.
Some will play safe like I do and perhaps I will cash it out because of the amount that is on the line. But a gambler will always be a gambler. They won x5 and it's not enough. Some won x1000 and still not enough because they feel like it's their lucky day. If I were you I wouldn't debate this matter because gamblers have different kinds of approaches when it comes to their bets.
Earlier I had a long parlay that was winning but because of the small amount that I put into it I didn't try to cash it out and I wanted to see how it would end. Sadly, it didn't win but I don't regret it much because I can afford the losses that I made.
I think what you said at the end is also what matters in this situation. Someone who can afford to lose a certain can take the risk and try their luck knowing that they can win a higher amount through the bet and even if they don't, it won't be an issue for them since they can easily afford to lose the amount they've used for the bet. Greed is when you know you can't lose the money but you still don't cash out thinking that you will double the money that you've bet.

You are also right that it depends on a gambler's profit appetite, some may become happy if they get even 0.5x of their bet but some might not be satisfied even after getting many folds because they usually aim for higher profits and they do it by risking the money that they've allocated for this purpose.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: 348Judah on November 03, 2023, 10:21:46 AM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.


Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 03, 2023, 11:20:35 AM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on November 03, 2023, 11:45:44 AM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.


Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Better to cash out to avoid risk no one knows for sure if a win will lead to a subsequent win then the funds are at risk of being wasted. And if you lose by cashing out but the bet still has a shot you will be able to cash out and reduce your losses to less than your bet. Cashing out can be tempting because it allows you to lock in profits or reduce your losses without putting any money at risk. Also creates opportunities to secure a portion of the winnings or as the odds change for or against you.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 03, 2023, 11:56:17 AM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.

Yes, it's true what you said, when they win, they should stop for a moment and rest to calm their minds so that greed does not occur which will make them experience huge losses. and that is a self-control by limiting gambling games.

But most gamblers do the opposite of what you said, they gamble with no limits until they forget the time when they have to stop. at this point they have begun to be consumed with greed that makes them addicted.
Only a few people are able to limit gambling, by withdrawing the winnings they get and not continuing the game because they already know what will happen if they continue the game by increasing the value of the bet.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 03, 2023, 12:04:43 PM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dave1 on November 03, 2023, 12:16:37 PM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.

You are right, gamblers are not going to stop and will continue to played despite winning big because of their greed. Perhaps people are build with it, I mean if you by chance continue to win then you think you can get more and continue to bet for more.

And then you suddenly fell into big gambling addicts and you think that you are invincible. So it's very hard to control's one emotion and behavior. It will take a lot from the gamblers to really stop their gambling habit and kick it out for good.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wakate on November 03, 2023, 01:05:26 PM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.
For us to take risk as a gambler does not mean that we need to be greedy. Greedy comes when we crave for the line of results we are very sure that we can not get even when we gamble with a lot of money. When we are contentious with what we have, that is when we can have full or partial control of greed freeing us from the probability of having loses that we should have avoided for a very long time.

 It is very important for us to work on the way we bet whether we have the habit of using smaller funds to win something bigger or a big funds to bet and win something huge, it is very important for us to stay safe from excessive or greediness.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: slapper on November 03, 2023, 01:32:58 PM
Just as you've said, if one leaves then he's safe and nothing bad is going to happen, but staying back to continue is a display of greed and that is very risky because one will eventually lost everything to that same particular bet, the way we see bet isn't the way it appears, we take the risk in doing it, but when the risk becomes dominant than the advantage, it's better to withdraw before the worse should happen and we loose the entire opportunity.
Everything will depend on each gambler and you said it right. If he continues gambling because he follows his greed, he will only experience more losses. Supposedly, when he can win, he can stop first to lower his tension and not follow his ego to win more money. And he could indeed lose all his money if he decides to continue gambling, especially as many gamblers have experienced this. Gamblers must pay attention to themselves when gambling and not be so engrossed in gambling that they forget when to stop.
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.
As it turns out, the sneaky loop of gambling addiction targets the parts of our brains that should make us happy and content. Its a big worry that this reward system, which was created to boost survival skills, can be hacked and used to make people do bad things. It is a puzzle how people's losses can push them deeper into addiction, as you say. Even when people are aware of the bad outcomes, the draw often takes precedence over logical thought.

To be a responsible gambler, you need to first understand this psychological trick in order to lessen its effects. To solve this problem, we need to do more than just raise awareness. We also need to work together to put in place solutions and support systems. The main point is that a gambler needs to fix the cognitive dissonance in their thoughts. Only then can real success be made in the figt against this widespread problem.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: aioc on November 03, 2023, 01:56:58 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


See, if he followed your advice and cashed out he would have blamed you, your friend seems to be comfortable with his bets so arguing with a guy who is comfortable with whatever the outcome is, is pretty useless.

There are really gamblers who are risk-takers and they are more excited and entertained when faced with a situation where the winner takes everything, and your friend happens to be one of these guys.

We've seen people posting their winnings here and some of them are posting 5 or 6 digits, these people are proven risk takers so they are proud of who they are, and they find enjoyment with this, taking risks and showing off their winnings.
 


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: lizarder on November 03, 2023, 04:03:17 PM
Maybe with that much money for an active gambler is not an addiction he will definitely continue to give arguments so as not to lose the debate, while the one who has fun in gambling will not spend much to hundreds of dollars unless he is an active gambler with the expectation of winning more than that, so it is necessary to ignore this kind of debate is definitely not going to be in line because we certainly think that money is very valuable for other purposes than gambling completely.
We have also experienced this incident and several years ago my friend won a gambling bet on one of the online sites and he showed us a big win which made several of my friends suggest withdrawing his winnings. But what is quite surprising is that he actually made a mistake because in the end the winnings were all lost in the next bet that was placed repeatedly, that's why I say arguing with people like that has no results.

If we understand the conditions of gambling maybe winning that much is enough to make us stop gambling temporarily and withdraw money first. But it is different from those who are addicted because gambling activity is a game that has given them a level of satisfaction. Although in general people think it's stupid and they don't necessarily care about that statement.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 03, 2023, 05:21:54 PM
Gambling involves both greed and risk since your friend has bet he has taken risk because he has earned a lot. A person is not lucky every time he is really lucky even after betting so much no one can guarantee a win in gambling maybe he knows the right gambling strategies. An experienced gambler analyzes the market and takes risks. He probably has a lot of confidence that he will win this time so he is taking a risky bet so that he doesn't have to regret it later. Maybe he thinks that this kind of opportunity doesn't come often not everyone will take as much risk as your friend and everyone will cash out after winning.
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. People who do not control themselves will fall into the trap of greed, and they will not realize that it is a mistake they should avoid. At the same time, experienced gamblers will know that greed is already trying to tempt them, but they are not tempted to continue even if they lose. They better stop gambling for the day and leave the casino. Maybe they will return to the casino a few days later, but they don't try to recover their losses because they think that yesterday is over, and they now want to gamble for fun.
It is true that we are people who can make a difference , in every game in every casino we can feel greed, greed, but those feelings lead us to become closer to Reason , because what we do is think about what we want to win and what we can do, to have more money, that is something that we must control, but what we Must feel is the Value of the Money that we are Betting, that is why Every time we stay in a casino we should only come to the point where the money We are betting, we are willing to lose, it is true, if what we lose does not happen, the loss is Assumed and , if not , the money will be won, then Congratulations, We have done Well and if you can Withdraw the money to enjoy it better.

In any case we cannot Assume that We are going to win all the time because we would be very wrong if that works like That , what we can do is believe that things can be handled in many ways, the bottom line is that we have to be case that we do not Let's lose the Money we Give you or Commit to doing anything, among those Things we can Generate while we are in a Lifestyle where the Main thing is to put Everything in context so that we are and have some Earnings , and When we are in a Situation like that the best It is to see this as if it were a Business, that is, let us settle for the profits, let them be few, because with few profits we can assume that some money is coming in, not as we want but something, then we must begin to assume what profits are Profits, and that there is no other, that is why when we are not in a Casino we have to control everything, the emotions the things that make us lose like Avarice , Greed, if we already have Something, that something is better than nothing, 'because not It can be assumed that you have Nothing when at least 1 or 2 Dollars have entered the account, or at most 5 USD in the Account, that for me is Profit and that Adds up.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rahmad2nd on November 03, 2023, 06:02:42 PM
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.

I agree with what you say, but what you say is still debatable. Not always, gamblers continue to play because they follow their greed.  we also have to look at it and other perspectives, case to case. In gambling, it is complex, we don't just look at it from one point of view or just based on one story in this thread.
Well, there are a few different points from my point of view regarding addiction. Usually, those who are addicted to their main point are not how to win gambling. but more so, to fulfill his desire to gamble. Whether it's a matter of winning or losing, every gambler knows for sure that this is part of the risk. like another point you said, "psychological effects usually manipulate a person's brain like a reward system". which increasingly encourages someone to fulfill their gambling desires. whether you win or lose, the more addictive you become. So, where is the discussion point of greed.

IMO, to me these are two different cases that we can discuss if necessary. for the points below, can you say that we agree. but in the context of the OP's thread title, it's about greed and risk. the point is we have to look at it case by case, and cannot generalize. one more thing, greed is an inseparable part of human beings themselves. like emotions, which are always involved in whatever our activities are. especially when it comes to gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 03, 2023, 06:05:41 PM
Gambling involves both greed and risk since your friend has bet he has taken risk because he has earned a lot. A person is not lucky every time he is really lucky even after betting so much no one can guarantee a win in gambling maybe he knows the right gambling strategies. An experienced gambler analyzes the market and takes risks. He probably has a lot of confidence that he will win this time so he is taking a risky bet so that he doesn't have to regret it later. Maybe he thinks that this kind of opportunity doesn't come often not everyone will take as much risk as your friend and everyone will cash out after winning.
Greed will always come to you, whatever the results you receive from gambling. If you win, greed will become even greater. And if you lose, greed will also tell you to play one more round, and if you still lose, greed will keep telling you to try again and again. People who do not control themselves will fall into the trap of greed, and they will not realize that it is a mistake they should avoid. At the same time, experienced gamblers will know that greed is already trying to tempt them, but they are not tempted to continue even if they lose. They better stop gambling for the day and leave the casino. Maybe they will return to the casino a few days later, but they don't try to recover their losses because they think that yesterday is over, and they now want to gamble for fun.
It is true that we are people who can make a difference , in every game in every casino we can feel greed, greed, but those feelings lead us to become closer to Reason , because what we do is think about what we want to win and what we can do, to have more money, that is something that we must control, but what we Must feel is the Value of the Money that we are Betting, that is why Every time we stay in a casino we should only come to the point where the money We are betting, we are willing to lose, it is true, if what we lose does not happen, the loss is Assumed and , if not , the money will be won, then Congratulations, We have done Well and if you can Withdraw the money to enjoy it better.

In any case we cannot Assume that We are going to win all the time because we would be very wrong if that works like That , what we can do is believe that things can be handled in many ways, the bottom line is that we have to be case that we do not Let's lose the Money we Give you or Commit to doing anything, among those Things we can Generate while we are in a Lifestyle where the Main thing is to put Everything in context so that we are and have some Earnings , and When we are in a Situation like that the best It is to see this as if it were a Business, that is, let us settle for the profits, let them be few, because with few profits we can assume that some money is coming in, not as we want but something, then we must begin to assume what profits are Profits, and that there is no other, that is why when we are not in a Casino we have to control everything, the emotions the things that make us lose like Avarice , Greed, if we already have Something, that something is better than nothing, 'because not It can be assumed that you have Nothing when at least 1 or 2 Dollars have entered the account, or at most 5 USD in the Account, that for me is Profit and that Adds up.

Greed is something that we cant really be avoid on experiencing specially if we are really that engaging with gambling on which we do really know that it is something that a very normal thing to be felt when dealing up with something that involves money.On the time that we are on the verge of winning or profiting then it would really be that normal on having that kind of urge in speaking on going further or making bets even more specially if we are seeing that we are really that on positive. There's no way that  you could really be able to avoid such feeling since we are just that humans on which we are really that born naturally greedy.
It is really just that there are ones who are really that good on having that kind of control towards themselves and this is why we do see that there are people who are really that good in control
and there are ones who do really fail on doing so.

Basing up on the situation or condition that we've seen then its something that do talks about a matter of choice considering that if we've seen that early cash out thing
then it would really that a matter of decision whether you would really be cashing out early or not. It does really that depend on a certain gambler since not all would really be
that mindful when it comes to this manner on which if you do choose up on cashing out early then expect that winning amount would be less which is common sense
but if you are really that going for assurance then it would be that not bad on doing such step further.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 03, 2023, 06:17:44 PM
Your luck doesn't play out the same every time. So if you have won a good amount of money in your bet then just cash it out. Taking risk is a process of getting successful in life. But when you can't afford to lose what you have, it is the best choice to take whatever you have and live your life. In gambling, your skills and experience doesn't do a thing. It's all about luck and either you win it or lose at all.

Gambling is not a way of making money and making a living. Taking a risk in a situation like this is foolish. And at this point, it is not even risk. It becomes greed. And we all know what greed does to people. But if you are a person who already have more money to spend on gambling, then I think you can call it a risk. You already have enough and losing that won't affect you.
We can say that it varies from people to people. To some it is greed and to some it is risk. For me, I won't go for either and cash out to enjoy what I have.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Onyeeze on November 03, 2023, 06:41:27 PM
Their is something I always lament in anything concerning gambling and concerning predictions, if you belive that you will win a gambling game don't make a noise or blame anyone when you loss, because in this case I will not hesitate to cash out since the money I used for playing the game has being recovered from the game and I still make a profit so tell me what will delay me not to cash out the money, I have to cash out and take my profit and it's only the greedy person that will delay not to cash out money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 03, 2023, 06:42:00 PM
Your luck doesn't play out the same every time. So if you have won a good amount of money in your bet then just cash it out. Taking risk is a process of getting successful in life. But when you can't afford to lose what you have, it is the best choice to take whatever you have and live your life. In gambling, your skills and experience doesn't do a thing. It's all about luck and either you win it or lose at all.

Gambling is not a way of making money and making a living. Taking a risk in a situation like this is foolish. And at this point, it is not even risk. It becomes greed. And we all know what greed does to people. But if you are a person who already have more money to spend on gambling, then I think you can call it a risk. You already have enough and losing that won't affect you.
We can say that it varies from people to people. To some it is greed and to some it is risk. For me, I won't go for either and cash out to enjoy what I have.
I completely agree with you bud.

First, just as you have tightly said, in Normal circumstances or conditions, taking risk is good for it is the only way we get a chance at making more money, and gambling is not left out in mediums through which people can take risk, but then, I think the problems with most of us is that, we often don't know when a safe risk shifts from we taking risk to become we being greedy. That is, most of us lack understanding of when a risk turns into greed, and this is something we really need to pay attention to as gamblers..

Some risks can really be stupid,  and this is the type I personally assume to be greed, though it is true that some people's risk might or can be some other people's greed and verse versa, it all depends on how much money one has and how much he or she can afford to risk and lose in a game, for those that probably have made some money and continue to play, and now, above their normal limits, it's a pure greed on them, and this can cause them to lose even all that they have managed to earn, while for those who win, and still continue to play because, they still have more than enough money that they can afford to lose regardless, it's still a normal risk for them.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 04, 2023, 04:40:38 AM
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.
So it is because of their greed that causes them to continue gambling without the self-control that should be required in gambling. If they continue to gamble, especially because of their greed, gradually they will become addicted to gambling. When that happens, they will not be able to stop it easily because all they can think about is gambling. These people will only care about gambling rather than doing other things because they like gambling more and more and only want to gamble.

If they chase their winnings, they will not be able to win easily and the more often they gamble, the greater the risk of losing their money. That is why they must be aware of the potential for greed to become greater and also the potential for experiencing gambling addiction will become greater.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 04, 2023, 07:50:34 AM
But sadly, gamblers often continue to play and follow their greed. We can say that the reason behind it is because of their addiction. AFAIK, when getting addicted to gambling, a psychological effect can stimulate a person's brain, something like a reward system, the more a person repeatedly does (winning or losing), the more addicted you get.

This state can be considered the same with compulsive gambling, causes of chasing your bets that lead to more losses. Even if the gambler pays attention to his behavior, nothing will still happen as he continues to disregard it when gambling.
So it is because of their greed that causes them to continue gambling without the self-control that should be required in gambling. If they continue to gamble, especially because of their greed, gradually they will become addicted to gambling. When that happens, they will not be able to stop it easily because all they can think about is gambling. These people will only care about gambling rather than doing other things because they like gambling more and more and only want to gamble.

If they chase their winnings, they will not be able to win easily and the more often they gamble, the greater the risk of losing their money. That is why they must be aware of the potential for greed to become greater and also the potential for experiencing gambling addiction will become greater.

The greed that exists in them that makes them addicted to gambling so that it has a bad impact on gambling. Although they experience defeat when gambling they are difficult to realize the defeat they get and do not make them stop gambling, those who pursue victory by spending a lot of money are not aware of the losses they have felt even though they have lost a lot of money they will continue to gamble because they are haunted by greed that controls themselves.

Yes, that's right, pursuing victory will only make them run out of more money, with the defeat that is always obtained and the victory that never gets, gradually it will make them miserable, right you say they have to eliminate the greed that exists, so that they will not harm themselves with the loss of more money because of the pursuit of victory that never gets. The bookie who succeeds in getting a lot of money from people like this will be happy because they have succeeded in making them spend all their money on gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 04, 2023, 04:09:58 PM
since the amount already grow more than a double, it only means he is about to win huge so why cashout instead.  it don't make sense. they only do that when they are not confident anymore but usually when they cashout its almost guaranteed more than half the amount is lost.

if it were me its a win. and let the game end to celebrate victory. the odds is quite not the teams favor actually so he is rooting for the underdog.


Once we won a big amount of money then  there's a possibility that it will doubled or  trippled  and if it will happen then we can cashout it all away. If we do not want to cashout and then we risk our money there's a high possibility that we loss all our funds. So it's better to think twice which is better if we are gonna cashout right away
but it's up to the gambler if he will withdraw  or take a risk  but there's a high chance of loses.  But for me cashout is the best  option.

However, in my opinion, if someone gets a big win, they will most likely increase the bet value because at this time greed will take over them so they are not satisfied with what they get, of course this will be bad for them by increasing the value of a small bet to possibly get a bigger win.
It's true that you said it's up to them although withdrawing everything is the best option but it seems difficult to withdraw everything because those who are dominated by greed think this is an opportunity for them to get bigger. However, many of the gamblers I think will return to play by increasing the value of the bet because of the dissatisfaction they feel even with the risk of losing back the winnings they get, I myself think that winning big and increasing the value of the bet will actually spend everything they get back. Because opportunities don't come twice.
Greed is something that it is really hard to control and does really need up that internal discipline and really that mindful about on the things that must done. Easy to say but it is really hard to be done on the time that you are on such situation on which there's no way that you could really be able to make yourself that able to do such thing on point. On the time that you are on such condition seeing that your bet is winning and would be having that early cash out opportunity then for sure it would really be that disrupt up your initial plans considering that you would really be thinking about those probabilities of comeback and might be resulting into losses of those bets which you do see that it is really that a sure win but we know as long the game isnt over there's always a chance or tendency for comeback.

Somehow, its none others business on what you would gonna do with your bet since its your money and you do have the full rights whether you would really be pushing it through or would really be cashing it out earlier.
There are really just those people who cant really just that bare up the risks and would really be going on the safer side of things but we do also know that there are
really people who are really that risk takers and could really do able to bare up with those risks involved.

Yes that's right, they should be able to control themselves and control greed when playing gambling, it's easy to say it's hard to do just like collecting debts from gamblers who borrow money to be able to gamble again hahaha. Most of them tend to continue the game when they get a win not withdraw it and leave gambling, but they with greed continue to play in the hope of winning bigger, even though not ten can win back in the next game.

It should be that when they get a win it is better to cash it in than to continue the game that will not necessarily return to give another win. This kind of person tends not to think about other things, he only focuses on big wins and bigger ones just like that, but they don't seem to think about the risks involved and are not ready to lose, so when they lose again and run out of winnings they get upset because they don't cash it in, then regret it, this is common in gambling, regretting at the end is common and no longer strange in gambling circles.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Johnyz on November 04, 2023, 04:28:17 PM
Their is something I always lament in anything concerning gambling and concerning predictions, if you belive that you will win a gambling game don't make a noise or blame anyone when you loss, because in this case I will not hesitate to cash out since the money I used for playing the game has being recovered from the game and I still make a profit so tell me what will delay me not to cash out the money, I have to cash out and take my profit and it's only the greedy person that will delay not to cash out money.
That's true because you are the one responsible for every decisions that you will make and in gambling, its always good to take profit.
Greed will always be there and it will depend on how you address that greed and what action you will make on this kind of situation. I'm into profit as well and if there's a chance for me to take profit with a good amount already, I will not risk it anymore and just go home and take that profit. Winning is not easy even on betting, so make sure to analyze it very well and always have your target profit so you can know when to stop.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Promocodeudo on November 04, 2023, 08:09:45 PM
If am the one that owns this bet slip I will cash out, my reason for cashing out is the risk involved, this bet has a high risk, staking a bet with 1m with a potential winning of 2.730m is very risky and I won't go for this, despite that sometimes it works exactly this way, this is a no for me unless I won't put the loss into consideration which is not even possible, no matter how rich you are, when you lose money you will feel it, minimizing your risk and maximizing your profit in gambling will help to avoid much loss in gambling, remember prediction is not a sure thing, it is just what you instinct feel at that time but mind you, your instinct doesn't say the exact thing most time, so don't be a greedy gambler.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 04, 2023, 08:24:48 PM
If am the one that owns this bet slip I will cash out, my reason for cashing out is the risk involved, this bet has a high risk, staking a bet with 1m with a potential winning of 2.730m is very risky and I won't go for this, despite that sometimes it works exactly this way, this is a no for me unless I won't put the loss into consideration which is not even possible, no matter how rich you are, when you lose money you will feel it, minimizing your risk and maximizing your profit in gambling will help to avoid much loss in gambling, remember prediction is not a sure thing, it is just what you instinct feel at that time but mind you, your instinct doesn't say the exact thing most time, so don't be a greedy gambler.

The greedy was the mistake made by the gamblers in the gambling,becasue once the gambler had won 250 dollars from the 100 dollars as the initial.Almost all the gambler will get greedy now,because they try to multiple the money to 1000 dollars from the 100 as the initial betting.So they get loss the full money by the algorithm of the gambling site.Once you get the chance of winning,you should use it wisely and cash out the money with the profit.So this was the professional gambler move,they are safe with the profit by withdraw the funds,but holding the fund and losing your luck will made the gambler end with zero dollars.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: bayu7adi on November 04, 2023, 08:46:25 PM
Betting should never involve greed, especially in sports betting where we'll only find out the outcome once, with a predetermined multiplier. I see this as a risk in betting. When someone chooses an underdog team, they need to bear the associated risk. On the other hand, greed is when, after winning one bet, you want to keep winning more bets or on other matches. As long as you only have one betting slip, it means there's just one bet taking place, and in my view, that's not greed.

I often bet on strong teams like this, and winning and losing is something that happens regularly. As long as we can control our emotions over lost money, it's safe for our livelihood. For anyone, $800+ could mean a lot or a little because the value of money is relative. If your friend earns $100k per month, it means that the bet is relatively small, right?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Lida93 on November 04, 2023, 09:27:47 PM
If am the one that owns this bet slip I will cash out, my reason for cashing out is the risk involved, this bet has a high risk, staking a bet with 1m with a potential winning of 2.730m is very risky and I won't go for this, despite that sometimes it works exactly this way, this is a no for me unless I won't put the loss into consideration which is not even possible, no matter how rich you are, when you lose money you will feel it, minimizing your risk and maximizing your profit in gambling will help to avoid much loss in gambling, remember prediction is not a sure thing, it is just what you instinct feel at that time but mind you, your instinct doesn't say the exact thing most time, so don't be a greedy gambler.

The greedy was the mistake made by the gamblers in the gambling,becasue once the gambler had won 250 dollars from the 100 dollars as the initial.Almost all the gambler will get greedy now,because they try to multiple the money to 1000 dollars from the 100 as the initial betting.So they get loss the full money by the algorithm of the gambling site.Once you get the chance of winning,you should use it wisely and cash out the money with the profit.So this was the professional gambler move,they are safe with the profit by withdraw the funds,but holding the fund and losing your luck will made the gambler end with zero dollars.
Not everything as such should be tied to greed, in my perspective from what at looking at this gambler decided to take a risk , a risk that not everyone will want to take therefore it doesn't mean it's greed. He didn't placed his bet with an initial intention to cash out in the middle of the game for an amount below the total he had hope for to win.

Life in general it's about risk, we should not perpetually get satisfied and accept every little thing we are handed out when we have an option to take a risk and probably have it in full. Just like what we saw about the result of this game it eventually played to the favour of the gambler.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Kelward on November 04, 2023, 09:58:50 PM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 04, 2023, 10:29:02 PM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

and to add, some of those gamblers who won't cash out know that they have very high chance of winning particularly those who live and breath such sports. so i guess, it is not about greed but the chance also about the bet. if you have the feeling you are on the winning side, you won't cash out.
but of course, if you want to make sure you are going home with some cash, you can cash out before such opportunity expires as there are only certain period that you can cash out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 05, 2023, 05:19:43 AM
The greed that exists in them that makes them addicted to gambling so that it has a bad impact on gambling. Although they experience defeat when gambling they are difficult to realize the defeat they get and do not make them stop gambling, those who pursue victory by spending a lot of money are not aware of the losses they have felt even though they have lost a lot of money they will continue to gamble because they are haunted by greed that controls themselves.

Yes, that's right, pursuing victory will only make them run out of more money, with the defeat that is always obtained and the victory that never gets, gradually it will make them miserable, right you say they have to eliminate the greed that exists, so that they will not harm themselves with the loss of more money because of the pursuit of victory that never gets. The bookie who succeeds in getting a lot of money from people like this will be happy because they have succeeded in making them spend all their money on gambling.
They should be able to overcome their greed so that it doesn't make them addicted to gambling because it will clearly have a bad impact on them. Yes, they don't realize the losses they have suffered so they will continue gambling and even though they experience more losses, that still doesn't stop them from gambling. Maybe they have to experience losing all their money until there is nothing left before they can stop, but that also doesn't guarantee they will immediately stop gambling because they can deposit other money to continue gambling.

Chasing the win will only lead to more defeats because they will never know when they can win so they should be able to learn from previous experiences where if they keep chasing the win, more losses will come to them. And yes, it is the dealer who will get a lot of money from people like that because the dealer only has to wait for his time to collect all the money lost by the gamblers and that is the profit that the dealer will get.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Rabata on November 05, 2023, 06:43:02 AM
When we look at betting slips for really big bets it can have two reactions. Some will ask to withdraw money from bets, while others who like to take risks will focus on taking risks. But my personal opinion in this case is that if someone is in such a position and has the condition to take the risk then he can take the risk. Because betting is a simple act of taking risks. Even if he doesn't take risk now, he has to risk another bet. It is not possible to win in betting without risk. Here greed and risk are at the same level. But the common expression that can be found when losing a bet is greed. Everyone then blames greed. So the gambler is the only person who can make the proper decision.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: adultcrypto on November 05, 2023, 06:59:25 AM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

and to add, some of those gamblers who won't cash out know that they have very high chance of winning particularly those who live and breath such sports. so i guess, it is not about greed but the chance also about the bet. if you have the feeling you are on the winning side, you won't cash out.
but of course, if you want to make sure you are going home with some cash, you can cash out before such opportunity expires as there are only certain period that you can cash out.
I seems to understand your point and I agree with that. Probably the money staked is not too much for him and he can afford to loose it. One thing I also realise from this might be that the bet was in solidarity with the team he supports,  his was of showing that he believe in the team. Even though I might not go with his decision, he came out right after all and made more money than he would have made if he had cashed out the bet.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: alastantiger on November 05, 2023, 07:19:24 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
In a debate there is no winner. Both sides of the argument are right. I didn't even see the need for such debate because what one person calls greed may be regarded as a risk for the neighbor and what the neighbor calls a risk may be regarded as greed for the other. A person who hasn't made such a huge amount may call it greed while someone who has had repeated amounts of such wins would call it a worthy risk.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: boty on November 05, 2023, 08:28:09 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
In a debate there is no winner. Both sides of the argument are right. I didn't even see the need for such debate because what one person calls greed may be regarded as a risk for the neighbor and what the neighbor calls a risk may be regarded as greed for the other. A person who hasn't made such a huge amount may call it greed while someone who has had repeated amounts of such wins would call it a worthy risk.
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on November 05, 2023, 08:58:26 AM
~snip~

and to add, some of those gamblers who won't cash out know that they have very high chance of winning particularly those who live and breath such sports. so i guess, it is not about greed but the chance also about the bet. if you have the feeling you are on the winning side, you won't cash out.
but of course, if you want to make sure you are going home with some cash, you can cash out before such opportunity expires as there are only certain period that you can cash out.
But would you also do the same thing when the odds were on your side in bet?
Everyone needs lot of consideration whether to continue or stop and take most of the winnings because in the future no one will know what the final result of the bet will be.

Talking about opportunities actually does not guarantee victory and there are many incidents where team has succeeded in having an advantage and has big chance of winning but it is not finished because there is still time left and in the end there is a big surprise that makes the superior team lose.
This kind of thing should be matter of concern and learning that everything that looks like it has a chance may not necessarily end well.

Here I agree with @Kelward in his last sentence and the decision he made is the first step to staying safe and being able to have or maintain a number of benefits that have been obtained.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 05, 2023, 09:59:47 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
In a debate there is no winner. Both sides of the argument are right. I didn't even see the need for such debate because what one person calls greed may be regarded as a risk for the neighbor and what the neighbor calls a risk may be regarded as greed for the other. A person who hasn't made such a huge amount may call it greed while someone who has had repeated amounts of such wins would call it a worthy risk.
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.

Yes, it is possible and quite reasonable, because usually someone will be more aggressive in gambling when they have already had a big win, in the way of preparation is also quite different between those who are beginners and those who are already quite significant about their gambling involvement. For those who have had several big wins usually like I said they are more aggressive as in how to gamble and put a budget because small wins don't seem to mean too much to them and also yes of course they will increase the amount of bets.

As for people who are still quite new to gambling or for example have never had a big win according to them, usually they will be more careful in gambling such as paying more attention in terms of the amount of budget that is not excessive which indirectly the risk taken is also not too significant if they end up losing. But basically I wouldn't say that's entirely true because for all the gambling they do it depends on themselves especially in terms of their goals of coming to gambling. Of course for those who cannot control themselves in gambling it will be very dangerous because addiction will continue to follow them, and also yes maybe the amount of control will continue to increase because they cannot put limits on when to stop from that activity.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: shogun47 on November 05, 2023, 10:09:08 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
In a debate there is no winner. Both sides of the argument are right. I didn't even see the need for such debate because what one person calls greed may be regarded as a risk for the neighbor and what the neighbor calls a risk may be regarded as greed for the other. A person who hasn't made such a huge amount may call it greed while someone who has had repeated amounts of such wins would call it a worthy risk.
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.

It could be quite the opposite of what you are describing, but there is no fixed rule as to how players with or without experience would play. I think first of all it is their relationship with money and how they treat and value money. There are very different characters out there and this is a great example when someone wins big what to do with it. There is one group that says that money won is money earned and hence can subsequently turn into a serious loss. Whereas another group might say that whatever they won isn't really part of their wealth and they keep treating it like play money. If they lose it all, they argue that they haven't lost any because it wasn't earned in the first place.

Someone goes up 1 million and then loses 1 million, says: - 1 million
Someone goes up 1 million and then loses 1 million, says: nothing lost


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Z390 on November 05, 2023, 10:32:47 AM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.


Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.
That's cold, it's always not anyone's business until they lose everything, and would have been better if they swallow all the pains that comes with it, but instead they will create an account on this forum only to share their bad story and how their life get *uck up by gambling, I don't see anything wrong in what Op is sharing, some gamblers are truly reckless with gambling and it's not bad using them to make examples on the forum, I have a friend who we never thought was into any gambling until he lost everything when gambling and he end up seeking for help, we were all surprised because we don't even know.

At the same time, I recall how secretive he has always been, that's who he is but if he has voiced out about it I would have just warned him about gambling and maybe give him some guide that will safe him from getting totally wrecked like what happened now, he is starting from the beginning again, like how much can I help him compare to if he start gathering the pieces all by himself?

Do not feel like you are always in control, that's when you should be more careful, my parent always say that I should be careful when I believe that I am standing, if I am falling I won't even notice it, this is the case with gambling, especially when you win once or twice, you will feel kind of special like a God of gambler, the fact about gambling is why I know how to avoid it's mess.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 05, 2023, 03:19:21 PM
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.
But some people cannot be careful placing their bets because they are tempted to use big money bets, so they try it. And when they lose, they become curious, so they want to keep trying. In this case, they have taken a bigger risk because they have bet with big money, so they also lost a big amount. Supposedly, after their first loss with big money, they immediately realized that this was a mistake and had to stop or reduce the amount of their bet immediately so they could continue their gambling game. But what's better is that they can stop gambling to calm their emotions because losing large amounts must be painful, and there must be a desire to recover from their losses, which will not be easy.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 05, 2023, 07:59:56 PM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.


Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.
That's cold, it's always not anyone's business until they lose everything, and would have been better if they swallow all the pains that comes with it, but instead they will create an account on this forum only to share their bad story and how their life get *uck up by gambling, I don't see anything wrong in what Op is sharing, some gamblers are truly reckless with gambling and it's not bad using them to make examples on the forum, I have a friend who we never thought was into any gambling until he lost everything when gambling and he end up seeking for help, we were all surprised because we don't even know.

At the same time, I recall how secretive he has always been, that's who he is but if he has voiced out about it I would have just warned him about gambling and maybe give him some guide that will safe him from getting totally wrecked like what happened now, he is starting from the beginning again, like how much can I help him compare to if he start gathering the pieces all by himself?

Do not feel like you are always in control, that's when you should be more careful, my parent always say that I should be careful when I believe that I am standing, if I am falling I won't even notice it, this is the case with gambling, especially when you win once or twice, you will feel kind of special like a God of gambler, the fact about gambling is why I know how to avoid it's mess.

I concur, if the OP was talking about someone they do not know then we may say that it is none of their business how someone else spends their money, but friends are supposed to call each other out when they are stepping out of line, as by doing that you can help a friend to stop a behavior that could ruin them early on and decrease the damage they could do to their lives in this way, however when your friend conceals everything about it there is no way to help them, as it seems to be the case on the story you share with us.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 05, 2023, 11:46:30 PM

But would you also do the same thing when the odds were on your side in bet?
Everyone needs lot of consideration whether to continue or stop and take most of the winnings because in the future no one will know what the final result of the bet will be.

Talking about opportunities actually does not guarantee victory and there are many incidents where team has succeeded in having an advantage and has big chance of winning but it is not finished because there is still time left and in the end there is a big surprise that makes the superior team lose.
This kind of thing should be matter of concern and learning that everything that looks like it has a chance may not necessarily end well.

Here I agree with @Kelward in his last sentence and the decision he made is the first step to staying safe and being able to have or maintain a number of benefits that have been obtained.

The gambler don’t know the exact result from the gambling bet,So they can withdrew from the game any time.But the gambler who accept the risk in the gambling had the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should understand the opportunity in the gambling sites.Many people get rich using the gambling site,but some people also loss their entire money to the gambling site.So the gambler should not to be greedy in their game in the gambling sites.If they get greedy the gamblers emotions will added to the gambling bettting,So it may leads to the loss for the gambler at the end of the game.So avoid the greedy and emotion in the game.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 06, 2023, 03:08:39 AM
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.
But some people cannot be careful placing their bets because they are tempted to use big money bets, so they try it. And when they lose, they become curious, so they want to keep trying. In this case, they have taken a bigger risk because they have bet with big money, so they also lost a big amount. Supposedly, after their first loss with big money, they immediately realized that this was a mistake and had to stop or reduce the amount of their bet immediately so they could continue their gambling game. But what's better is that they can stop gambling to calm their emotions because losing large amounts must be painful, and there must be a desire to recover from their losses, which will not be easy.
yes, that's just some people, and I'm sure there are still many people who are responsible for their gambling, who still care about their financial health and don't really expect big wins at gambling because of that.
It's impossible, like looking for a needle in a haystack, even though getting even a small profit is already very grateful.
I personally take more into account the expenses I will use for gambling, limit my finances to a minimum and don't chase losses when the money I use has run out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: slapper on November 06, 2023, 04:50:11 AM
Is none of your business on how the intend to go about their bets and. someone who staked such an amount to cash out $800+ as in a cashier that is not so good enough and also doesn't show any excitement in the whole process because I am sure that the ops have a hard lot of good waiting for his game to fully play out even though his prediction may become wrong and he ends up losing everything.


Although from the screenshot you shared you did not show anywhere that that amount of cash out was available so for that we may argue that the amount in total available cash out may be incorrect because there is no evidence to show that in this regard.
That's cold, it's always not anyone's business until they lose everything, and would have been better if they swallow all the pains that comes with it, but instead they will create an account on this forum only to share their bad story and how their life get *uck up by gambling, I don't see anything wrong in what Op is sharing, some gamblers are truly reckless with gambling and it's not bad using them to make examples on the forum, I have a friend who we never thought was into any gambling until he lost everything when gambling and he end up seeking for help, we were all surprised because we don't even know.

At the same time, I recall how secretive he has always been, that's who he is but if he has voiced out about it I would have just warned him about gambling and maybe give him some guide that will safe him from getting totally wrecked like what happened now, he is starting from the beginning again, like how much can I help him compare to if he start gathering the pieces all by himself?

Do not feel like you are always in control, that's when you should be more careful, my parent always say that I should be careful when I believe that I am standing, if I am falling I won't even notice it, this is the case with gambling, especially when you win once or twice, you will feel kind of special like a God of gambler, the fact about gambling is why I know how to avoid it's mess.

You know what? Gambling is a beast that wants to destroy everything. It's a serious business where the house always wins, not just a game. Your friend, I've heard this scenario far too often, was dealt a poor hand. People don't talk about their gambling because it's like a shadow following them around until it eats them up. Now, this forum is full of these kinds of sad stories. However, it's a good thing that they're shared. Why? Because each of these stories is a neon sign, just as clear as the neon lights of Las Vegas, warning off. These are not merely heartfelt tales; they are harsh, painful, but essential teachings. To show what gambling is really like, we need to talk about the loses as well as the wins

Regarding your friend, it's harder than most things to start over from scratch. However, it's not impossible. It's like a business, right? It is essential that you own a well-defined approach and stick to it. No taking short cuts or waiting for good fortune. It's about working hard and choosing wisely. You can help by being there, giving advice, and speaking up when the urge to bet comes calling. That's how one makes an impact


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: inthelongrun on November 06, 2023, 05:49:51 AM
OP he took the risk to bet so there is nothing wrong if he decides to cash out early or keep it going the usual way. What is wrong is you debating with your friend that he needs to cash out and calling him greedy because he did not follow your advice. You said the debate did not end well, blame yourself, mate. Don't act like an expert or accept the fact that your advice can either be followed or rejected. Did he owe you money? You seem so forceful about your advice. And in the end, your friend was right. Thanks for not following your advice. He would've been bitter if he followed your wrong advice.

It's just crazy when a lot of people mind other people's stuff. There is nothing wrong with giving advice but it is wrong when someone tries to insist. It's like some people here making posts and talking about how Elon Musk was a failure and what things he should do in order to make his business better. It's crazy. We should look at ourselves in the mirror before considering to mind other people's business.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 06, 2023, 09:18:52 AM
~snip~
yes, that's just some people, and I'm sure there are still many people who are responsible for their gambling, who still care about their financial health and don't really expect big wins at gambling because of that.
It's impossible, like looking for a needle in a haystack, even though getting even a small profit is already very grateful.
I personally take more into account the expenses I will use for gambling, limit my finances to a minimum and don't chase losses when the money I use has run out.
We also have to be responsible for our gambling and not gamble excessively, let alone expect to win big. If we can win, we must be grateful for having won. Remember that in gambling, winning is very difficult, and not everyone can win. I also always calculate my expenses when gambling and will not deposit more money on the same day, especially when I gamble; I always try to limit the use of the money. I will not chase losses because I have experienced bigger losses that I could not imagine before, so by always limiting the money for gambling, that is what I can do.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: kingvirtus09 on November 06, 2023, 10:48:36 AM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

Greed once enters, a gambler for sure will always put the winnings he gets at risk because greediness pushes him to continue playing gambling in the casino, which is why he always ends up losing.

This happens all the time with gamblers. Now, there are others who may not have this greed in the meantime, but there is a risk that they take when they gamble, and that is that they are willing to beat their partner no matter how much it is, right?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: sompitonov on November 06, 2023, 11:28:19 AM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

Greed once enters, a gambler for sure will always put the winnings he gets at risk because greediness pushes him to continue playing gambling in the casino, which is why he always ends up losing.

This happens all the time with gamblers. Now, there are others who may not have this greed in the meantime, but there is a risk that they take when they gamble, and that is that they are willing to beat their partner no matter how much it is, right?
This is what the gambling industry is built on, on greed and the inability to control it. If a player wins, then in approximately 95% of cases he will return and lose his winnings, and also bring his own new money and give it to the system. I have always been surprised by professional poker players and raising limits (NL5, NL10 and so on) provided that the bankroll grew to a certain value. I thought I was disciplined, but I couldn't go down the limit when I needed to and ended up losing almost my entire bankroll. This turned out to be incredibly difficult to do, after which I realized that I would not become a professional player. It’s good that I realized this and stopped, but some people lose and can’t stop.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: nara1892 on November 06, 2023, 12:11:52 PM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

Greed once enters, a gambler for sure will always put the winnings he gets at risk because greediness pushes him to continue playing gambling in the casino, which is why he always ends up losing.

This happens all the time with gamblers. Now, there are others who may not have this greed in the meantime, but there is a risk that they take when they gamble, and that is that they are willing to beat their partner no matter how much it is, right?

Greed has become the starting point for a more painful end, they, especially gambling addicts, have felt and proven it themselves, it is quite painful but the problem is that their expectations are much higher than the reality that always befalls them (even successive defeats). That is why they are still greedy even though it is clear that the final result is more often a defeat than the results they always expect. Even though they basically got a win at the end of the gambling session, I wouldn't say it was a real win because obviously in that condition they will bring their greed like you said, and instead of getting a much bigger win but the opposite happens.

It's a cycle of addiction that will always be involved with greed at some level, and whether or not a gambler will be greedy depends on the level of involvement of the person in the gambling, usually greed will always play a role in someone who has entered the addiction phase. I don't believe they can control themselves if they are in a state of competing in a bet with anyone including their own partner, because when your adrenaline is pumping then maybe you will not think and consider how much risk you have to take.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Gozie51 on November 06, 2023, 12:32:19 PM

And for the rest of the actual risk takers, they wouldn't mind but to continue and if they lose, they lose no matter what happens and no regret on it.

Yes I know of some gamblers who don't like using the cash out mode, they prefer to take the full risk and bear whatever consequences that comes out of it. They say they are okay with losing all and if they win the full potential they are also happy.

There are different reasons that make some not to use cash out. They have had situations where they used the cash out in fear that the game will eventually go against them but it finally happened that the games were all successful whilst they had already jumped out with meagre amount and losing the bulk of the potential winning. I feel the pulse of those who argue with presenting such experience with the point of eventually winning.

They say afterall they were the one who predicted the games and that they would allow it to finish out. Moreover, another argument from such gamblers is that before the introduction of cash out, that they have been winning so why chicken out but for me, I believe cash out is very useful for gamblers and since its introduction, more people have tasted winning even if not the potential winning amount.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Litzki1990 on November 06, 2023, 01:29:58 PM
Here from the picture shared by your friend on whatsapp status we clearly understand that your friend may have taken high risk here and because of taking high risk he has achieved this. At such high risk usually a gambler fails most of the time but your friend is lucky enough because he got a big profit despite taking such high risk. I think your friend can tell you about this matter better than us so you can ask your friend about it. If he has shared any other picture in his whatsapp status then that is different matter but if he is really doing this then you must try to know how he did it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Kelvinid on November 06, 2023, 01:37:15 PM
If am the one that owns this bet slip I will cash out, my reason for cashing out is the risk involved, this bet has a high risk, staking a bet with 1m with a potential winning of 2.730m is very risky and I won't go for this, despite that sometimes it works exactly this way, this is a no for me unless I won't put the loss into consideration which is not even possible, no matter how rich you are, when you lose money you will feel it, minimizing your risk and maximizing your profit in gambling will help to avoid much loss in gambling, remember prediction is not a sure thing, it is just what you instinct feel at that time but mind you, your instinct doesn't say the exact thing most time, so don't be a greedy gambler.
The owner of this bet slip is known to be a professional who is willing to take and bet more disgrading the possible risk of losing. I believe he doesn't need money in order to cash it out but he chose that it will stay there. We can't really imagine someone who is not afraid to stay in there but I think, he trusted the platform already made him confident enough that nothing would happen to his account and funds. Indeed, it was not greed but it was a matter of choice and trust. Of course, you can do the same if you are a rich person who doesn't care about losing their money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: wiss19 on November 06, 2023, 02:09:24 PM
It's just crazy when a lot of people mind other people's stuff. There is nothing wrong with giving advice but it is wrong when someone tries to insist. It's like some people here making posts and talking about how Elon Musk was a failure and what things he should do in order to make his business better. It's crazy. We should look at ourselves in the mirror before considering to mind other people's business.
It sometimes feels like some people care more about what you do than what they do themselves or need to do, lol. I mean, do what you have to do instead of focusing on what I'm doing, it's my things, it's my life, and it's me who should be deciding what's good and what's bad for me. If you think that I'm doing something in the wrong way, just suggest me a better way, and if I think that your way is better than mine, I will follow it, but if I don't think so, I'll go with my way and you shouldn't have an issue with that and don't start arguing with me for that.

OP probably did the same thing with his friend, he did what he thought was right for himself and he was confident with his decision. OP suggested something but he thought his decision was still better so he went with that and OP started an argument with him for not thinking that his decision was better.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Kelward on November 06, 2023, 06:46:09 PM
Greed or risk, I think that it depends on the mindset and financial strength of the gambler, because what you're worrying about for him might be his adrenaline to keep going in the game. Some people are natural risk takers, they'll want to finish the game no matter the outcome, it doesn't matter to them if they lost, so far they won't lose more than the amount used to place the bet. While others will cash out, out of fear of losing everything, i believe that most reasonable gamblers will fall into this category. Another category are those that very rich, they don't care if they will lose the bet, and cashing out is not an option for them, they're just in it for the thrill.

Personally I'll cash out if given the opportunity to do so, because if i don't and eventually lose the bet, I'd be very heartbroken and blame myself for being greedy. This is probably because I'm not rich, if I'm rich and lose a bet, it'll likely be  risk for me.

Greed once enters, a gambler for sure will always put the winnings he gets at risk because greediness pushes him to continue playing gambling in the casino, which is why he always ends up losing.

This happens all the time with gamblers. Now, there are others who may not have this greed in the meantime, but there is a risk that they take when they gamble, and that is that they are willing to beat their partner no matter how much it is, right?

Greed has become the starting point for a more painful end, they, especially gambling addicts, have felt and proven it themselves, it is quite painful but the problem is that their expectations are much higher than the reality that always befalls them (even successive defeats). That is why they are still greedy even though it is clear that the final result is more often a defeat than the results they always expect. Even though they basically got a win at the end of the gambling session, I wouldn't say it was a real win because obviously in that condition they will bring their greed like you said, and instead of getting a much bigger win but the opposite happens.

It's a cycle of addiction that will always be involved with greed at some level, and whether or not a gambler will be greedy depends on the level of involvement of the person in the gambling, usually greed will always play a role in someone who has entered the addiction phase. I don't believe they can control themselves if they are in a state of competing in a bet with anyone including their own partner, because when your adrenaline is pumping then maybe you will not think and consider how much risk you have to take.

It's more of greed than risk for most gamblers, because they can imagine that if they can come that far without failing then their luck will lead them all the way to winning the bet. Not remembering that gambling is a game of chance, that the table can turn around at any moment, in an instant winning can turn to lose. Any thing that depends on luck to achieve is not a reliable thing to depend on, because luck can change at anytime whether for good or bad, so it's more reasonable to cash out if given the opportunity to do so.

Taking the risk to continue a game that you have no control over is not advisable, unless the gambler does not care about winning or loosing, but in rare cases, people who care about winning and yet continuer to play after been given the chance to cash out are the real risk takers, because if they lose, they probably have ways of getting over the lose.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 07, 2023, 03:15:36 AM
We also have to be responsible for our gambling and not gamble excessively, let alone expect to win big. If we can win, we must be grateful for having won. Remember that in gambling, winning is very difficult, and not everyone can win. I also always calculate my expenses when gambling and will not deposit more money on the same day, especially when I gamble; I always try to limit the use of the money. I will not chase losses because I have experienced bigger losses that I could not imagine before, so by always limiting the money for gambling, that is what I can do.
This bad thing can be a goods experience for your life in the future because with that your can realize that chasing losses is very risky, therefore it is true as you said, if we have to set limits in gambling so thats we don't experience bigger losses, we can do it here. Remind our friends to gamble with reasonable limits and not exceed our capabilities, if the limits are up we must be willing to lose the money or at least use the minimum limits possible so that we don't regret losing money too much and can stop doing it without thinking twice.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: inthelongrun on November 07, 2023, 11:15:52 AM
It's just crazy when a lot of people mind other people's stuff. There is nothing wrong with giving advice but it is wrong when someone tries to insist. It's like some people here making posts and talking about how Elon Musk was a failure and what things he should do in order to make his business better. It's crazy. We should look at ourselves in the mirror before considering to mind other people's business.
It sometimes feels like some people care more about what you do than what they do themselves or need to do, lol. I mean, do what you have to do instead of focusing on what I'm doing, it's my things, it's my life, and it's me who should be deciding what's good and what's bad for me. If you think that I'm doing something in the wrong way, just suggest me a better way, and if I think that your way is better than mine, I will follow it, but if I don't think so, I'll go with my way and you shouldn't have an issue with that and don't start arguing with me for that.

OP probably did the same thing with his friend, he did what he thought was right for himself and he was confident with his decision. OP suggested something but he thought his decision was still better so he went with that and OP started an argument with him for not thinking that his decision was better.

And I know some people with that same attitude. But I am trying as much as possible to stay away from them. They're toxic. I honestly do not understand why they need to argue or insist when their suggestions aren't being followed. It is disrespectful. Maybe psychologists can explain more, it could be something about personal insecurity.

OP is feeling bad which is why he posted it here. His advice wasn't followed and as he said, the argument didn't end well. What makes matters worse is his advice ended up being a mistake so his friend won the bigger pot. What a shame. If I were OP I would spend some time alone, and re-assess my personality. And of course, I will apologize to my friend with a good vibe manner.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: nara1892 on November 07, 2023, 12:34:51 PM
Greed has become the starting point for a more painful end, they, especially gambling addicts, have felt and proven it themselves, it is quite painful but the problem is that their expectations are much higher than the reality that always befalls them (even successive defeats). That is why they are still greedy even though it is clear that the final result is more often a defeat than the results they always expect. Even though they basically got a win at the end of the gambling session, I wouldn't say it was a real win because obviously in that condition they will bring their greed like you said, and instead of getting a much bigger win but the opposite happens.

It's a cycle of addiction that will always be involved with greed at some level, and whether or not a gambler will be greedy depends on the level of involvement of the person in the gambling, usually greed will always play a role in someone who has entered the addiction phase. I don't believe they can control themselves if they are in a state of competing in a bet with anyone including their own partner, because when your adrenaline is pumping then maybe you will not think and consider how much risk you have to take.

It's more of greed than risk for most gamblers, because they can imagine that if they can come that far without failing then their luck will lead them all the way to winning the bet. Not remembering that gambling is a game of chance, that the table can turn around at any moment, in an instant winning can turn to lose. Any thing that depends on luck to achieve is not a reliable thing to depend on, because luck can change at anytime whether for good or bad, so it's more reasonable to cash out if given the opportunity to do so.

Taking the risk to continue a game that you have no control over is not advisable, unless the gambler does not care about winning or loosing, but in rare cases, people who care about winning and yet continuer to play after been given the chance to cash out are the real risk takers, because if they lose, they probably have ways of getting over the lose.

But basically it's nothing more than "imagining and hallucinating right?" they will never know about whether they will be lucky or not at the end of the session, and yes I also understand that there is a chance to be able to win there but on the other hand the casino has arranged everything that the percentage of defeat will be much greater than victory, therefore as we see a lot of gamblers suffering from defeat and such a cycle will continue if they cannot change their mindset then obviously the cycle will never end. In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, it's best to make sure that you've got a good understanding of what you're getting into and what you're getting out of it.

Of course friends it is not recommended, and if you or they ask the reason I think it is clear because gambling is only an activity that relies on luck alone and there is no certainty whatsoever for a better result, unless yes if you don't care for any results, so I think applying good self-control and being a responsible gambler is one of the right solutions for prevention.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 07, 2023, 01:00:22 PM
~snip~
This bad thing can be a goods experience for your life in the future because with that your can realize that chasing losses is very risky, therefore it is true as you said, if we have to set limits in gambling so thats we don't experience bigger losses, we can do it here. Remind our friends to gamble with reasonable limits and not exceed our capabilities, if the limits are up we must be willing to lose the money or at least use the minimum limits possible so that we don't regret losing money too much and can stop doing it without thinking twice.
For this reason, we must really be able to control ourselves and not chase losses because we have already lost from previous gambling games, and if we continue, our losses could become even greater. Only with limits on gambling can we prevent bigger losses so that we only gamble with the money we can afford and never exceed the limits we have set. Don't spend too much money gambling because later, we will regret seeing how much money we have used, and it won't be easy to get that money. We can only be careful when gambling and don't be easily tempted by the offers we see in gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 08, 2023, 02:02:50 AM
For this reason, we must really be able to control ourselves and not chase losses because we have already lost from previous gambling games, and if we continue, our losses could become even greater. Only with limits on gambling can we prevent bigger losses so that we only gamble with the money we can afford and never exceed the limits we have set. Don't spend too much money gambling because later, we will regret seeing how much money we have used, and it won't be easy to get that money. We can only be careful when gambling and don't be easily tempted by the offers we see in gambling.
It's true that chasing losses will only make us experience more losses, therefore we have to use it in a disciplined and responsible manner be able to control ourselves well and not be too ambitious to win because it is very risky if we have existing ambitions it will be difficult for us to control ourselves and find it difficult to limit spending so this will make us addicted and have an impact on our financial health, apart from that it will also make us experience mental stress and this is not very good, to avoid bad things we must be able to prevent them first by reduce gambling gradually.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: kotajikikox on November 08, 2023, 06:32:56 AM

 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.

How can we assume when the picture says nothing but the standing balance and the option to cash out? there is no even connected photo about what had happened or even Link pointing to that article?

But considering that this is a general question ? then for me It is not either greed or risk until we see what happened after that photo.

and also if you are going to ask me? i will not greed to not cash out that money , it is enough to feed my family for 2 months lol.or I can upgrade my Bike before christmass  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: retreat on November 08, 2023, 07:53:36 AM
We all here understand that gambling is about taking risks and what he is doing is clearly taking risks by gambling that much money. Of course he has his own analysis and belief that the team he holds will win. And with various considerations he made, he took the risk by betting this amount of money on his favorite team to win the prize. So I can say that it's about taking risks, not greed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 08, 2023, 11:41:46 AM
~snip~
It's true that chasing losses will only make us experience more losses, therefore we have to use it in a disciplined and responsible manner be able to control ourselves well and not be too ambitious to win because it is very risky if we have existing ambitions it will be difficult for us to control ourselves and find it difficult to limit spending so this will make us addicted and have an impact on our financial health, apart from that it will also make us experience mental stress and this is not very good, to avoid bad things we must be able to prevent them first by reduce gambling gradually.
Discipline and responsibility are very necessary if we want to gamble, and we have to learn them before we start gambling, even if we don't really master them. With discipline and responsibility, we can prevent bigger losses and stop gambling, whatever the conditions. We will pay more attention to ourselves and will not let ourselves experience a lot of losses, let alone spend all the money, because it is not necessary at all. We can gamble with just enough money and can decide to stop gambling before things turn bad. We don't need to have ambitions to win from gambling because gambling is not a place to make money, and we just need to enjoy gambling and not gamble excessively. If we can stay within the limits, we will not worry about future problems, including not worrying about gambling addiction, because we can overcome it so that it does not influence us to continue gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 08, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
Those who have never experienced a big win in gambling will definitely be very careful in placing their bets and they will also make good decisions in placing their bets because they don't want to lose from the bets they place, while those who don't can control themselves in gambling, of course they will play without being able to control themselves in placing their gambling bets so that they will experience defeat more quickly in the gambling they do.
But some people cannot be careful placing their bets because they are tempted to use big money bets, so they try it. And when they lose, they become curious, so they want to keep trying. In this case, they have taken a bigger risk because they have bet with big money, so they also lost a big amount. Supposedly, after their first loss with big money, they immediately realized that this was a mistake and had to stop or reduce the amount of their bet immediately so they could continue their gambling game. But what's better is that they can stop gambling to calm their emotions because losing large amounts must be painful, and there must be a desire to recover from their losses, which will not be easy.
It is very true, every time we make any type of bets in a casino we win, because it is obvious that we want to continue winning more and this is something that impels us to continue in the game, so we must consider that we are not like this making bets and winning , we can also make a big bet and lose a big bet, and that is something that hits us hard in the pocket , because we have bet a lot, so in this case what I do is change to Strategy , that is, now I don't bet big , what I do is bet With very little money, that is, the minimum bet, this so that I can pass the level of adrenilian generated by having been winning and lower my spirits, emcoines and everything that has to do with emotion of playing, then we could say that greed can be present in these cases, but it is not that it is decisive, everything that can be done through money has to be managed , money is delicate , especially when it is risked.

When we bet we Always make a quick or long-term Prediction , because you have thought about why you can win and what the odds are, other types of considerations are or can be evaluated but in part all we need is to do our right argument. be able to emerge Victorious , and this has a lot to do with what can be put at risk, if we have little money, it is irresponsible for us to risk it in a bet, or in a casino, because it is irrelevant that with little we want to think that leaving everything to luck, things can turn out well for us and suddenly they don't , because we are left with the worst or nothing , and I think that is not an irresponsible game, it opens up more to greed and greed makes us lose absolutely everything, then that I feel like when you have it, you have to erase it , try to get it out of your mind because it's not Healthy to have it, but that's my way of thinking, I think it's the best , from my own Experience.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 09, 2023, 04:32:41 AM
Discipline and responsibility are very necessary if we want to gamble, and we have to learn them before we start gambling, even if we don't really master them. With discipline and responsibility, we can prevent bigger losses and stop gambling, whatever the conditions. We will pay more attention to ourselves and will not let ourselves experience a lot of losses, let alone spend all the money, because it is not necessary at all. We can gamble with just enough money and can decide to stop gambling before things turn bad. We don't need to have ambitions to win from gambling because gambling is not a place to make money, and we just need to enjoy gambling and not gamble excessively. If we can stay within the limits, we will not worry about future problems, including not worrying about gambling addiction, because we can overcome it so that it does not influence us to continue gambling.
Apart from this, we also have to exercise self-control, we have to be able to control ourselves well, not easily control our finances emotionally so that we don't overdo it, maybe with these limits, someone can stop if the money runs out, don't chase losses too much because that will make things worse. finances are getting worse, and I agree with you that gambling is not a place to make money but just for entertainment. If we win, it means luck is on our side. Don't think too much about whether gambling will provide continuous profits because that rarely happens. Gambling will only give a profit once or twice after which we will experience continuous losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Crypt0Gore on November 09, 2023, 09:38:03 AM
It's all about taking risks, accepted, if the gambler is ready to face the consequences, or let's say that he can afford the lose then it's not greediness, to me it depends on the gambler, if he his worth millions in his local currencies then he can simply afford to risk this much, stop comparing yourself to others, if you can't afford to lose this amount OP it's because you don't have much, and if it's you I bet you wouldn't have risk this much.

Everyone should know their limits and capacity when gambling, over doing it is what leads to unwanted results, if I can afford to lose $1000 in every rounds on slots game then I must worth millions of dollars in my bank account, some will say this is too much but this is how I do my own things.

Before I started using things that costs be $150 I already have like $2000 in my bank account, before I purchased my $400 dollars laptop I already have over $10,000, this is what we should call been able to afford something, now in gambling, I am able to risk few dollars like $20-$50 and that's because I can comfortably afford losing this amount.

All gamblers need to wager only what they can afford, risk acceptance should be based on your whole income and your worth, don't just say that because you want to take risks or because gambling is all about risks then you should use all you have, you will likely go broke fast and start begging people for money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Natsuu on November 09, 2023, 09:52:03 AM
If am the one that owns this bet slip I will cash out, my reason for cashing out is the risk involved, this bet has a high risk, staking a bet with 1m with a potential winning of 2.730m is very risky and I won't go for this, despite that sometimes it works exactly this way, this is a no for me unless I won't put the loss into consideration which is not even possible, no matter how rich you are, when you lose money you will feel it, minimizing your risk and maximizing your profit in gambling will help to avoid much loss in gambling, remember prediction is not a sure thing, it is just what you instinct feel at that time but mind you, your instinct doesn't say the exact thing most time, so don't be a greedy gambler.
The owner of this bet slip is known to be a professional who is willing to take and bet more disgrading the possible risk of losing. I believe he doesn't need money in order to cash it out but he chose that it will stay there. We can't really imagine someone who is not afraid to stay in there but I think, he trusted the platform already made him confident enough that nothing would happen to his account and funds. Indeed, it was not greed but it was a matter of choice and trust. Of course, you can do the same if you are a rich person who doesn't care about losing their money.

Some gamblers are just chill in betting high because they can afford to lose that much money.Like that  friend owning the bet slip seems to have nerves of it. They're not sweating the risk and are just letting it ride. It's all about trusting the platform and having that confidence in their choices. For them, it's not about greed but rather a laid-back attitude and a pocket deep enough to handle the outcome. It's like saying, "Hey, I can handle this, no biggie!" We all have our own ways of dealing with these things. For some, it's about enjoying the thrill without the worry, and if you've got the means, why not? It’s a game we all have to be responsible for in playing :)


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: FanEagle on November 09, 2023, 07:17:00 PM
I think getting greedy while gambling is not a big deal, it is gambling after all and we are all making bets that are big risks of us losing all our money as well, that just doesn't make sense to give up that early and not really look for something bigger.

I understand that it may feel like you could take the money and consider that as profit, but five minutes later you are going to bet that on something else anyway, and I mean if you want to quit and then quit gambling all together after getting that win then I am not saying anything about it, you could do that and that's understandable, but if you are going to keep gambling and not quit gambling, it doesn't feel like it is a bigger risk to continue with the bet and expecting bigger return, then trying to get out, that doesn't feel like any big difference in the end. I feel like if I am going to keep gambling at some other game and risk my money, then I am willing to end up risking it with continue with this bet too.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 09, 2023, 09:21:53 PM
Some gamblers are just chill in betting high because they can afford to lose that much money.Like that  friend owning the bet slip seems to have nerves of it. They're not sweating the risk and are just letting it ride. It's all about trusting the platform and having that confidence in their choices. For them, it's not about greed but rather a laid-back attitude and a pocket deep enough to handle the outcome. It's like saying, "Hey, I can handle this, no biggie!" We all have our own ways of dealing with these things. For some, it's about enjoying the thrill without the worry, and if you've got the means, why not? It’s a game we all have to be responsible for in playing :)
In a way you have a point, since every person deals with specific circumstances in a different way, but at the same time this laid-back attitude can be quite dangerous, as I have known a few people that had that attitude and they never took anything seriously as if everything was under control, and when they finally realized this was not the case they were in deep trouble already for which it will take them a massive amount of effort to get out of it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 09, 2023, 10:30:42 PM
~snip~
It is very true, every time we make any type of bets in a casino we win, because it is obvious that we want to continue winning more and this is something that impels us to continue in the game, so we must consider that we are not like this making bets and winning , we can also make a big bet and lose a big bet, and that is something that hits us hard in the pocket , because we have bet a lot, so in this case what I do is change to Strategy , that is, now I don't bet big , what I do is bet With very little money, that is, the minimum bet, this so that I can pass the level of adrenilian generated by having been winning and lower my spirits, emcoines and everything that has to do with emotion of playing, then we could say that greed can be present in these cases, but it is not that it is decisive, everything that can be done through money has to be managed , money is delicate , especially when it is risked.

When we bet we Always make a quick or long-term Prediction , because you have thought about why you can win and what the odds are, other types of considerations are or can be evaluated but in part all we need is to do our right argument. be able to emerge Victorious , and this has a lot to do with what can be put at risk, if we have little money, it is irresponsible for us to risk it in a bet, or in a casino, because it is irrelevant that with little we want to think that leaving everything to luck, things can turn out well for us and suddenly they don't , because we are left with the worst or nothing , and I think that is not an irresponsible game, it opens up more to greed and greed makes us lose absolutely everything, then that I feel like when you have it, you have to erase it , try to get it out of your mind because it's not Healthy to have it, but that's my way of thinking, I think it's the best , from my own Experience.
You have to be able to control yourself after getting that big win and continue to restrain yourself because if you lose control of yourself, you will definitely continue gambling. There is a possibility that you will increase the amount of the bet because you definitely think that by increasing the amount of the bet, you will win. Lots. If what you want comes true, you will definitely be happy, but not so, friend, because gambling is not your friend, so you will feel sad when you experience defeat. But if you can then reduce your betting level to very little, congratulations because you can realize that you made a mistake and immediately correct it before you lose more money, and that is progress for you because you can realize it. Casinos are not a place to make money, that is what you have to realize and understand, and you don't need to torture yourself by placing large bets because that means you will experience quite a lot of losses.

There is no need to make quick or long-term predictions because you will not always be able to win, so you can enjoy your bet and don't expect much from your bet. If you win, congratulations, but if you lose, you don't need to be too disappointed because it is your fate to lose. Still, there is a possibility that you can win another day, so what you need to do is immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. You will only be able to win a little if you have luck, and we already know that for sure because many people try to gamble more often, but they end up losing more. Surprising. But that's how it is, so in this case, you are the one who controls everything, including the money, and don't be fooled by what you see out there because it won't always be what you imagine. Moreover, we all have more experience than other people out there, so we can overcome this so as not to gamble excessively. We can remain consistent in managing our gambling activities because we don't want to experience big problems such as gambling addiction.

~snip~
Apart from this, we also have to exercise self-control, we have to be able to control ourselves well, not easily control our finances emotionally so that we don't overdo it, maybe with these limits, someone can stop if the money runs out, don't chase losses too much because that will make things worse. finances are getting worse, and I agree with you that gambling is not a place to make money but just for entertainment. If we win, it means luck is on our side. Don't think too much about whether gambling will provide continuous profits because that rarely happens. Gambling will only give a profit once or twice after which we will experience continuous losses.
Yes, you are right because, with self-control, we can save ourselves and not become emotional as other people experience. We can regulate our gambling activities so that we don't overdo it and also don't chase losses because we already know that if we do, we will potentially experience more severe losses. All the money may also be lost. That's what we have to realize and try to stop it so that we avoid bad things that might happen after we finish gambling. Don't underestimate anything that looks simple because gambling can make us more interested in it, and in the end, we won't be able to get out of gambling easily. We have seen what happens and is experienced by other people from gambling, so we must always be committed to always protecting ourselves so that we are not greedy in pursuing bigger results.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Onyeeze on November 09, 2023, 10:38:59 PM
Here from the picture shared by your friend on whatsapp status we clearly understand that your friend may have taken high risk here and because of taking high risk he has achieved this. At such high risk usually a gambler fails most of the time but your friend is lucky enough because he got a big profit despite taking such high risk. I think your friend can tell you about this matter better than us so you can ask your friend about it. If he has shared any other picture in his whatsapp status then that is different matter but if he is really doing this then you must try to know how he did it.
Sometimes to take risk in a gambling matters and it do cause more profit, we all know that playing a gambling is also a risk and greediness because what prompted us to gamble is because of multiplying of our funds and sometimes it can be called greediness, so gambling is something you have to know your target in profit so that you will not lose because of a process of accumulating your funds, so greediness is a part of risk in gambling but people do not see it like, so what they are after is to criticise greediness why greedy is a risk we take both trading and gambling


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: salad daging on November 09, 2023, 10:42:31 PM
I think getting greedy while gambling is not a big deal, it is gambling after all and we are all making bets that are big risks of us losing all our money as well, that just doesn't make sense to give up that early and not really look for something bigger.
In gambling, we want to win big, so doubling the bet is something many people do, even though it is called greedy, it is normal in gambling because the emotional nature of wanting to win big becomes high, especially when betting on sports betting with the favorite team, it is clear that many of them increase their bets his.

It's not unreasonable, but if they do too much then it will be bad for themselves, so forcing high amounts while using money that they are not ready to lose may be a problem for them.

Sometimes when we play any game, if we win, we feel like we want to increase our bet, so that's a natural thing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ChiBitCTy on November 09, 2023, 10:50:08 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

I don't really see how an initial bet could be considered greed. I agree with them that it's really about risk and not greed. I guess you could view a bet as being greedy if lets say you placed a large bet and won a bunch of money and then all of a sudden that person decides to place another bet, one they had not planned on making, and one they weren't really prepared for, but were "greedy" having won a bunch of money just recently and thought that their hot streak/good luck would continue just because.  Now to me, that's greed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: oktana on November 09, 2023, 10:51:58 PM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Iroh on November 09, 2023, 10:58:52 PM
Sometimes to take risk in a gambling matters and it do cause more profit, we all know that playing a gambling is also a risk and greediness because what prompted us to gamble is because of multiplying of our funds and sometimes it can be called greediness, so gambling is something you have to know your target in profit so that you will not lose because of a process of accumulating your funds, so greediness is a part of risk in gambling but people do not see it like, so what they are after is to criticise greediness why greedy is a risk we take both trading and gambling

Undoubtedly, greed is present in the heart and mind of a considerable number of gamblers whenever they bet on a game. They’re all about how much and how big the amount they stand to get if the game turns out favorable.
But not everyone is greedy when it comes to staking a bet.
No doubt, the money to be won is the ultimate reward when betting, I’d like to think there are people who bet not quite for the money to be gotten if lucky enough but mostly for the thrill and suspense they get out of it.
These set of people do not gamble in the hope of getting some sort of income from it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on November 09, 2023, 11:36:47 PM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Nerdy doctor on November 09, 2023, 11:50:59 PM
I’ll have to side with your friend on this one. I think greed could play a role in the decision making of some people who actively gamble. But I think in this particular case, your friend was willing to take the risk despite given the opportunity to withdraw a certain sum and see if his bets would still play out like predicted. That’s literally gambling. Risking a partial sum to actually see if you’ll be able to get the total win.
Gambling is all about taking risks like your friend mentioned. Although, if lucky, your risk taking could yield some good profits. Your friend was also lucky as he took the risk and was able to win a bigger profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 09, 2023, 11:58:40 PM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: uchegod-21 on November 10, 2023, 12:29:21 AM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.

That is what gambling is all about,  risk taking! While any normal person will quickly cash out what's available rather than chase clout, the gambler was still determined to pursue the ultimate price. While many will call it greed,  I believe the gambler is gambling with what he can afford to lose and no emotions attached. If he can risk it, let him do it and if he losses, it is solely his business. As for me , I am not brave enough to refuse an  initial offer when the game is purely a game of luck. I will cash out immediately and come back another day


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: danherbias07 on November 10, 2023, 09:03:00 AM
I think getting greedy while gambling is not a big deal, it is gambling after all and we are all making bets that are big risks of us losing all our money as well, that just doesn't make sense to give up that early and not really look for something bigger.

I understand that it may feel like you could take the money and consider that as profit, but five minutes later you are going to bet that on something else anyway, and I mean if you want to quit and then quit gambling all together after getting that win then I am not saying anything about it, you could do that and that's understandable, but if you are going to keep gambling and not quit gambling, it doesn't feel like it is a bigger risk to continue with the bet and expecting bigger return, then trying to get out, that doesn't feel like any big difference in the end. I feel like if I am going to keep gambling at some other game and risk my money, then I am willing to end up risking it with continue with this bet too.
It's not, it became a part of it. Gambling and Greed are like twin brothers, most gamblers will take risks and try to win more feeling luck is on their side and it won't let go that easily.
I don't believe much in luck though. I believe in the system and I know that every time the gambling site gives us a multi-win affiliated with it is a streak of losses that will come afterward. Then, it will slightly recover all that money without us noticing it. Sure, it will give more x2 and x5 but it won't give the same multi-win in a few bets.
That is why the most greedy will find themselves losing in casino games today. The provably fair part is only a front and we will still end up losing in the future.
Be wise, take the profits if you can. Don't gamble it more just in exchange for an addition of $1 or $2 or worse things may happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AicecreaME on November 10, 2023, 12:09:29 PM
Gamblers have their own reasons; to be honest, not all of them are crooks like that. What we have seen is wild or greedy, and we will immediately think of them. In fact, his point is valid; if that is really his reason because he is willing to take the risk, then we don't care about that because it is his choice.

And whatever he does, it's not really us who will be affected, but him, so there's no point in debating or arguing with him. This is just my own view and opinion on what we are talking about here.

Same sentiments.

If he can afford to make the bet without relying on borrowing from a friend or taking a loan, then let him. It's not as if you're also going to be in trouble if he fails his bet. That person is probably well-aware of the consequences of his actions. If not, at least you got to tell him the possible repercussions.

When we see people taking big risks, it's okay if we criticize, but not in an aggressive manner. I know you want to prove your point, but making an argument will not really make them change their mind unless you do it in an assertive manner. It's good to be concerned, but we shouldn't shove our belief or thinking what's good, better, or what's not to other people. They should still decide on their own. May it be a greedy move or just merely risking, it's none of your biz, so just stay out of it especially if they don't want to hear your unsolicited opinion. If you already gave one out of looking after them, I guess that's enough.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: BitcoinTurk on November 10, 2023, 12:19:15 PM
I think this situation varies entirely depending on the person's preference, budget and risk threshold. Gambling is an activity that we always undertake by taking risks and the bet amount varies depending on the person's budget. That is the bet amount in question should be evaluated depending on this person's gambling budget. For example, if this person will not be negatively affected if he loses this amount it would be more accurate to call it a risk but if the person will be negatively affected if this bet loses it would be more accurate to state that this is greed.

So, in order to give a clear answer here I think it is also important to know how this bet affects one's financial situation and gambling budget. Of course, the amount in question is not a small amount but as I mentioned the importance of this amount varies from person to person.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 10, 2023, 12:23:27 PM
That is what gambling is all about,  risk taking! While any normal person will quickly cash out what's available rather than chase clout, the gambler was still determined to pursue the ultimate price. While many will call it greed,  I believe the gambler is gambling with what he can afford to lose and no emotions attached. If he can risk it, let him do it and if he losses, it is solely his business. As for me , I am not brave enough to refuse an  initial offer when the game is purely a game of luck. I will cash out immediately and come back another day
Actually that's greedy when you can't enjoy your winnings, if you keep gamble using your winnings in hoping you can make more and then withdraw it, it's really hard to achieve and you always feel not enough everytime.

A gambler need to know when to stop or they will keep gamble until they lose everything.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Docnaster on November 10, 2023, 12:31:12 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

I don't really see how an initial bet could be considered greed. I agree with them that it's really about risk and not greed. I guess you could view a bet as being greedy if lets say you placed a large bet and won a bunch of money and then all of a sudden that person decides to place another bet, one they had not planned on making, and one they weren't really prepared for, but were "greedy" having won a bunch of money just recently and thought that their hot streak/good luck would continue just because.  Now to me, that's greed.
I don't actually know the basis of your argument with your friend but looking at the image and the odd for the away team to win the game which was also the option of the person that played the bet, you'll know that the match has already been played and the betting company then gave him the option of cashing out his win not that it was an initial cash out option before the end of the match the bet was placed upon


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fzkto on November 10, 2023, 12:41:50 PM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.
Probably it is both risk and greed, because a person takes risks trying to earn money. Greed is the amount of money a person is willing to risk. It seems to me that it can be not only gambling, you can see these qualities in cryptocurrency as well. Many people risk money by buying, for example, meme coins to make a quick profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on November 10, 2023, 12:55:00 PM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.
That is the essence of gambling to make people assume they are winning against the table/banker but the reality lies that no they cannot, gambling tables are created to bring the owner as Money making machine , this flows money for every gambling owner and taking every cents in gamblers , so they are not calculating their possible winning over capital instead they are already addicted into it.
and they cannot prevent themselves to gamble and losing everything for the sake of playing.because even how much they won? still they will gamble and lose them all.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: benalexis12 on November 10, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.
That is the essence of gambling to make people assume they are winning against the table/banker but the reality lies that no they cannot, gambling tables are created to bring the owner as Money making machine , this flows money for every gambling owner and taking every cents in gamblers , so they are not calculating their possible winning over capital instead they are already addicted into it.
and they cannot prevent themselves to gamble and losing everything for the sake of playing.because even how much they won? still they will gamble and lose them all.

There are also other gamblers, because when they notice that they are lucky in gambling and win consecutively, they feel that they can beat the bankroll. It's like this: you were created by a creator, and then you, who created you, think you can lose the creator of you.

You know what it means to point out; this is something that other gamblers don't understand. That's why the house edge often wins because they control the game, and they can also choose who they want to win as a gambler. That's why there are often many gamblers who win what should be a large amount and then lose in the end. They should already know that.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Litzki1990 on November 10, 2023, 03:01:28 PM
Here from the picture shared by your friend on whatsapp status we clearly understand that your friend may have taken high risk here and because of taking high risk he has achieved this. At such high risk usually a gambler fails most of the time but your friend is lucky enough because he got a big profit despite taking such high risk. I think your friend can tell you about this matter better than us so you can ask your friend about it. If he has shared any other picture in his whatsapp status then that is different matter but if he is really doing this then you must try to know how he did it.
Sometimes to take risk in a gambling matters and it do cause more profit, we all know that playing a gambling is also a risk and greediness because what prompted us to gamble is because of multiplying of our funds and sometimes it can be called greediness, so gambling is something you have to know your target in profit so that you will not lose because of a process of accumulating your funds, so greediness is a part of risk in gambling but people do not see it like, so what they are after is to criticise greediness why greedy is a risk we take both trading and gambling
It is my belief that sometimes excessive greed helps a gambler earn more money but in most cases excessive greed never results in good results. I know a gambler who started gambling with a small amount of money and won $500. At the beginning of gambling, he never expected to earn $500, but when he earned $500, his greed increased. Due to his excessive greed he did not withdraw the money he was earning but with that money he tried to gamble more and in the second phase when he started gambling it was a period of downfall in his gambling career. In the second step he gambled and lost his $500 and he again borrowed money and gambled to earn $500 and lost it and now he is much more in debt. 

In the first phase, when he was earning $500, he would not have been in so much debt if he had not been overly greedy. However I think that one should always limit one's greed and never take one's greed to extremes.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 10, 2023, 05:30:24 PM
There are loads of people gambling with various motives, and most people are gutted when it comes to gambling, its either the price or nothing.

They'd prefer to loose out on a huge sum as they've calculated the expected outcome and have decided to sacrifice whatever it is that they have committed to betting on that particualr game. I will call it risk rather than greed.
Probably it is both risk and greed, because a person takes risks trying to earn money. Greed is the amount of money a person is willing to risk. It seems to me that it can be not only gambling, you can see these qualities in cryptocurrency as well. Many people risk money by buying, for example, meme coins to make a quick profit.
Well, not really. Greed is an excessive desire to get more of something that you already have or want to have, especially if it's money, wealth, or anything valuable. What you are describing is called taking risks, when you are using money from your pocket to win a reward or anything, greed is when you have won something but you want to win even more, and you risk what you have won to win more because you have a strong desire to have more than what you already have.

However, in the case we are discussing, we can and cannot consider it greedy because the outcome was yet to be declared in the case of OP's friend and since he could see that his bet would become successful, he didn't cash it out and wanted to risk his base bet and hope to win the bet.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: sompitonov on November 10, 2023, 07:22:35 PM
Here from the picture shared by your friend on whatsapp status we clearly understand that your friend may have taken high risk here and because of taking high risk he has achieved this. At such high risk usually a gambler fails most of the time but your friend is lucky enough because he got a big profit despite taking such high risk. I think your friend can tell you about this matter better than us so you can ask your friend about it. If he has shared any other picture in his whatsapp status then that is different matter but if he is really doing this then you must try to know how he did it.
Sometimes to take risk in a gambling matters and it do cause more profit, we all know that playing a gambling is also a risk and greediness because what prompted us to gamble is because of multiplying of our funds and sometimes it can be called greediness, so gambling is something you have to know your target in profit so that you will not lose because of a process of accumulating your funds, so greediness is a part of risk in gambling but people do not see it like, so what they are after is to criticise greediness why greedy is a risk we take both trading and gambling
It is my belief that sometimes excessive greed helps a gambler earn more money but in most cases excessive greed never results in good results. I know a gambler who started gambling with a small amount of money and won $500. At the beginning of gambling, he never expected to earn $500, but when he earned $500, his greed increased. Due to his excessive greed he did not withdraw the money he was earning but with that money he tried to gamble more and in the second phase when he started gambling it was a period of downfall in his gambling career. In the second step he gambled and lost his $500 and he again borrowed money and gambled to earn $500 and lost it and now he is much more in debt. 

In the first phase, when he was earning $500, he would not have been in so much debt if he had not been overly greedy. However I think that one should always limit one's greed and never take one's greed to extremes.
This must be controlled greed, this is the only way professionals make money. I even noticed that professional gamblers still have a competitive spirit, just like in big sports, they constantly want to improve themselves, draw conclusions from mistakes and not only from their own. Some of them play sports, such as basketball at the amateur level. They want to be better than others in everything, so they achieve excellent results in gambling.

For example, in poker, they very carefully and disciplinedly moved up the limits, and if they needed to go back to increase the bankroll, they did it, rather than taking uncontrollable risk at a high limit at which they lost the allowable deposit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Josefjix on November 10, 2023, 09:39:20 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
That game was depicted, and numerous gamblers profited substantially from it because it was crystal readily apparent, Barcelona vs Real is El Classico match, and Real Madrid won that game with a score of 2-1. There are two possibilities here: either he is financially stable or he is still striving to get out of the financial crisis. He actually wagered Real Madrid to win Barcelona in the El Classico game, and if he staked the game with such significant figures, it implies he's confidence in the side he's ready to stake a significant amount on without nervousness.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: oktana on November 11, 2023, 05:30:25 AM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 11, 2023, 10:11:51 AM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.
Being greedy will only bring us losses in gambling because, with increasing greed, we will never feel satisfied with the winnings we get. We still want a bigger win and that will make us continue gambling and we will even use the winning money we just got to bet. Unfortunately, we will have difficulty getting bigger wins but will start experiencing small losses several times until we finally experience bigger losses. The losses will get bigger if we start to get impatient and increase the bet amount to bigger than before. And once we lose, we lose a larger amount of money and of course, that will accelerate losing all the money if we can't stop ourselves from gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on November 11, 2023, 12:59:58 PM
Being greedy will only bring us losses in gambling because, with increasing greed, we will never feel satisfied with the winnings we get. We still want a bigger win and that will make us continue gambling and we will even use the winning money we just got to bet. Unfortunately, we will have difficulty getting bigger wins but will start experiencing small losses several times until we finally experience bigger losses. The losses will get bigger if we start to get impatient and increase the bet amount to bigger than before. And once we lose, we lose a larger amount of money and of course, that will accelerate losing all the money if we can't stop ourselves from gambling.
Talking about greed, have you ever had a friend who likes to gamble but always does stupid things, where they always act recklessly and want big things every time they enter into gambling?
If you have it then what will you do and what will you give it to realize that greed and carelessness are very dangerous.

I almost got into fight just because of advice for gamblers who had lost large amounts of money several times because they always wanted to make more money with each win.
He has been given advice many times and even tried any approach, but he doesn't want to listen and is actually angry and asks me to be quiet otherwise he will invite me to fight.

From problems like this, it is clear that the first is due to the impact of the addiction he feels and in addition the aim of gambling as place to generate wealth which gives rise to greedy attitude.
So there is an idea that gambler cannot be reminded or given advice just by talking.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Saisher on November 11, 2023, 01:03:49 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


When it comes to gambling we are all different, we have different ways of seeing things in terms of taking risks and cashing out early, your friend is ok with taking risks so you have to respect that, each one of us has a different personality when it comes to gambling, some are very careful, some careless and some has a risky behavior so we have to respect their decision as long as they don't regret their decision and they are comfortable with it.
It will also cause a rift between you and your friend if you keep interfering with your friend's decision, so let him decide for himself.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 12, 2023, 10:32:18 AM
Talking about greed, have you ever had a friend who likes to gamble but always does stupid things, where they always act recklessly and want big things every time they enter into gambling?
If you have it then what will you do and what will you give it to realize that greed and carelessness are very dangerous.

I almost got into fight just because of advice for gamblers who had lost large amounts of money several times because they always wanted to make more money with each win.
He has been given advice many times and even tried any approach, but he doesn't want to listen and is actually angry and asks me to be quiet otherwise he will invite me to fight.

From problems like this, it is clear that the first is due to the impact of the addiction he feels and in addition the aim of gambling as place to generate wealth which gives rise to greedy attitude.
So there is an idea that gambler cannot be reminded or given advice just by talking.
I don't have friends like that but it is true what you say that a gambling addict will find it difficult to accept advice. I think for people who also have an addiction other than gambling, it will also be difficult to accept advice from other people, for example, a child who often plays games and rarely rests. Maybe he will also find it difficult to accept advice from his parents or other people because he really likes playing games and doesn't want to stop before he has finished it.

But this is gambling where there will definitely be consequences that gambling addicts will experience if they do not reduce their gambling addiction or even cure their gambling addiction. And maybe he will pick a fight because he doesn't want to listen to advice from other people even though the advice is for his own good too. We may have to look for the right moment to talk to him so that he can accept what we suggest.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on November 12, 2023, 05:36:00 PM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.
When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: len01 on November 12, 2023, 07:23:48 PM
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When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.
this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 12, 2023, 11:49:07 PM

this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.


The risk was the important factor of the gambling sites,many gambler accept the risk of the gambling.But still some gamblers will not accept the risk of the game,they just say the reason for the loss is by the luck.The risk should be accepted by the gambler,So he will take the gambling responsibility of the money deposit to the gambling sites.When the continuous loss was made in the gambling sites will make you more frustrated in the game.But get away from the frustration after the continuous loss was the more important in the gambling.The gambler who avoid the greed was the successful gambler now a day.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: kingvirtus09 on November 12, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.

Almost all of us here who are crypto gamblers know this thing about greed, but even though others know that it is bad, some of our fellow gamblers continue to do it; some are aware, and others are not aware that they are becoming greedy.

This is why it is said not to let money control us because we will surely end up being greedy in the end because we don't realize that it has entered our personality. But if we are the ones who control what we do in gambling, it is for sure that greed will not enter our personalities.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 13, 2023, 12:58:13 AM
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This bad thing can be a goods experience for your life in the future because with that your can realize that chasing losses is very risky, therefore it is true as you said, if we have to set limits in gambling so thats we don't experience bigger losses, we can do it here. Remind our friends to gamble with reasonable limits and not exceed our capabilities, if the limits are up we must be willing to lose the money or at least use the minimum limits possible so that we don't regret losing money too much and can stop doing it without thinking twice.
For this reason, we must really be able to control ourselves and not chase losses because we have already lost from previous gambling games, and if we continue, our losses could become even greater. Only with limits on gambling can we prevent bigger losses so that we only gamble with the money we can afford and never exceed the limits we have set. Don't spend too much money gambling because later, we will regret seeing how much money we have used, and it won't be easy to get that money. We can only be careful when gambling and don't be easily tempted by the offers we see in gambling.
It is very difficult not to do things like that as you say, because generally at least when I was a rookie I always made the mistake of chasing my losses and what I gained was more losses, so in this order of ideas we are the people who are more responsible in every sense for what we do and what we can do later, so sometimes without meaning to but out of mere instinct we seek to correct errors immediately and in a casino we seek to correct or put everything back on the ground of obtaining again winnings to recover what was lost, well that does not apply, because mainly when things are very hard in a casino, people resort to returning to recover what they have lost and that is the main reason in some cases that addiction exists, copsa Which seems a little silly to me because a person who is in a casino must understand how things and the money work there, this is something that can be quite understandable.

When a person enters a casino, they must be clear about what they can do, but they must also understand the fact that the house always wins, that the fact of putting a lot of money in a casino does not guarantee that they have to win because they put in a lot, The casino has its own way of obtaining profits, this is why we are always going to make the difference, each time we go to play we must understand this, apart from making our own plan, the last thing to do is :

1.Have a total balance to lose.

2.- Have an autocontrol, the autocontrol must go from the first moment you register or enter a game and bet responsibly because you are not going to bet everything in a single shot, because it is easier to do without anything.

These are also things that the rest of us should learn, there is no other way , for me it is very important that a person educate themselves before entering a casino, and thus avoid losing money Unnecessarily.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 13, 2023, 08:30:59 AM
Almost all of us here who are crypto gamblers know this thing about greed, but even though others know that it is bad, some of our fellow gamblers continue to do it; some are aware, and others are not aware that they are becoming greedy.

This is why it is said not to let money control us because we will surely end up being greedy in the end because we don't realize that it has entered our personality. But if we are the ones who control what we do in gambling, it is for sure that greed will not enter our personalities.
The temptation of easy money can be too much for people to resist, in the minds of some persons gambling offers the possibility of earning a lot of money without too much effort, but those are the thoughts of someone that does not really understand how gambling works or that they are too greedy for their own good, but whatever their reasons to think like this, if they do not correct it then they will gamble too much thinking that obtaining profits is just a matter of time, when in fact time is the ally of casinos, as the longer we gamble the more losses we will experiment.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rahmad2nd on November 13, 2023, 10:57:19 AM

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.

Basically, greed is shared by all humans, even if we relate it to gambling. and we are well aware that greed is something that is not good and is not even worth emulating. the problem is, what is the difference between greed and risk in this thread. Honestly, I don't get the essence. When we discuss gambling, we cannot say that every gambler who bets with a large bankroll is a greedy gambler. because, it all depends on a person's ability and how much he can afford to lose. Plus, gamblers who gamble with high bankrolls are well aware of the risks.

In this phase, greed and risk become a part that is biased and confused from my personal point of view. I mean, referring to the thread of this post. but referring to what you said in this post, we agree and there is nothing wrong with that. that is a very bad habit. and the most appropriate point to describe greed is, we will be hungry to win more than average.
But on the gambling side, in fact this is a very common thing. We are gamblers, you will try to get the maximum limit of your winnings. after that, you will be more interested in getting more results. and that's natural, because we know very well that gambling requires capital and contains risks. so what it should be, I think this depends on how we look at it. if we think from the negative side, then the results will be negative. But if we think from the gambling side, then this is a risk. If you don't want to take risks the answer is simple, just stay away from gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on November 13, 2023, 11:26:35 AM
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When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.
this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.
Becoming greedy in gambling is a sign of addiction once the greed works in them after winning then they bet to get more and gradually it becomes addiction. When gambling consumes a person's thoughts actions behaviors and behaviors even after repeated attempts they cannot be stopped from doing so. Then they harm themselves and get involved in various evil deeds the addicted person wants to satisfy those needs at any cost and wants to gamble do not act without feeling regret later.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on November 13, 2023, 02:02:06 PM
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It is very difficult not to do things like that as you say, because generally at least when I was a rookie I always made the mistake of chasing my losses and what I gained was more losses, so in this order of ideas we are the people who are more responsible in every sense for what we do and what we can do later, so sometimes without meaning to but out of mere instinct we seek to correct errors immediately and in a casino we seek to correct or put everything back on the ground of obtaining again winnings to recover what was lost, well that does not apply, because mainly when things are very hard in a casino, people resort to returning to recover what they have lost and that is the main reason in some cases that addiction exists, copsa Which seems a little silly to me because a person who is in a casino must understand how things and the money work there, this is something that can be quite understandable.

When a person enters a casino, they must be clear about what they can do, but they must also understand the fact that the house always wins, that the fact of putting a lot of money in a casino does not guarantee that they have to win because they put in a lot, The casino has its own way of obtaining profits, this is why we are always going to make the difference, each time we go to play we must understand this, apart from making our own plan, the last thing to do is :

1.Have a total balance to lose.

2.- Have an autocontrol, the autocontrol must go from the first moment you register or enter a game and bet responsibly because you are not going to bet everything in a single shot, because it is easier to do without anything.

These are also things that the rest of us should learn, there is no other way , for me it is very important that a person educate themselves before entering a casino, and thus avoid losing money Unnecessarily.

The house always wins, and knowing this is half the battle. You're right about self-control. A plan, loss budget, and clear brain are crucial when entering a casino. Its about gambling psychology, not simply money. The beginner mistake of chasing losses is a common trap. Human nature, yes? We want to correct our mistakes right away to reclaim what we lost. This inclination can be our demise in a casino. Recovery typically increases losses, making it a pseudo-problem. The true issue? Understanding gaming is more important than recovering losses. Before entering a casino, educate yourself. Knowing the chances, risks, and self-control can make all the difference. wise money management includes wise judgments and emotions. Gambling should be fun, not profitable. The true win is keeping things entertaining and within control, right?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 13, 2023, 02:21:30 PM
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When gambling becomes greedy an impossible and uncontrollable need for gambling is created in the mind. It can be seen to have long lasting effects on any aspect of personal family social or economic. Although many people do not understand it themselves the harmful aspects that can be observed are the problem or destruction of relationships with people apart from the debtor. Financial problems Legal problems Losing a job or being looked down upon at work intoxication or getting involved in various criminal circles.
this scenario you are talking about may be more indicative of an early sign of addiction than previously experiencing greed and an uncontrolled gambler indulges in greed and loses more and then he will feel regret but continue to gamble with the aim of chasing his losses and regret it again until in the end he feels frustrated. and doing other things that are detrimental to themselves, such as getting drunk and when they come home feeling sorry and their thoughts are influenced by alcohol, they often end up getting angry with their family.
In this case, greed is the beginning of addiction. If you cannot ignore your greed, a gambler will slowly turn into a bad addict.
Becoming greedy in gambling is a sign of addiction once the greed works in them after winning then they bet to get more and gradually it becomes addiction. When gambling consumes a person's thoughts actions behaviors and behaviors even after repeated attempts they cannot be stopped from doing so. Then they harm themselves and get involved in various evil deeds the addicted person wants to satisfy those needs at any cost and wants to gamble do not act without feeling regret later.
Gambling and greed are integral parts of each other. This has all been studied for a long time and gambling sites make money on people’s weaknesses, although it all looks as if the person himself makes the decision and presses the last button. And when he loses, which happens much more often than when he wins, he feels guilty. This is simply a game with the player's feelings. But there are those who reach the top, they are professionals, they control themselves and their emotions, of course this is very difficult to achieve, I couldn’t do that.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dimitri94 on November 13, 2023, 03:09:45 PM
This is neither greed nor risk but a combination of both of them. It is the greed of trying to win more that makes people take bigger and unnecessary risk forgetting that there is now a bigger potential loss. Most people gamble out of greed and don’t know it. It mustn’t be a large amount to be greed, it’s mostly about the intention. A better way to put this is when someone is trying to win something beyond the reasonable or necessary limit than they should.

Being greedy in the gambling is the positive one in the gambling,because by the greedy we can make the high target as compared to the normal gamblers.The risk of the dollars alone make you made the big win in the gambling,but you should understand risk of the dollars also made you loss.But the gambler will not see the loss in the gambling,because they know themselves the gambling will give the gambler return with more dollars in the same gambling game.Some gambler think the greedy will make the gambler loss the full money,their is the risk of the dollars.But we are not going to share the gambling sites our profit from the gambling sites.

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.
When a gambler becomes reckless it is difficult to bring him back. The reckless gamblers will loss his entire bankroll. There is both greed and risk involved in gambling, but reducing as much as greed and risk will reduce the amount of loss. The more some one greedy, the more gambler gets out of control from gambling. At that point a gambler will naturally exceed his gambling limit. Which will completely destroy his gambling. So the gambler must stay away from being overly greedy and responsible gambling must avoid excessive gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Razmirraz on November 13, 2023, 03:27:10 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 13, 2023, 03:47:17 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.

Yes that's true but on the other hand you have to be able to see first in what case you take a big risk to get something bigger, if you do that way in gambling then honestly I really wouldn't advise that way to anyone, because it's clear that everything goes randomly for the problem of the final result, and also besides being very dependent on luck you also can't be sure whether you will be able to win or not in your session this time. That's why it's important to consider everything, try not to do things that you shouldn't do.

It's true that it all depends on the person's decision, but I personally think it's very unreasonable if they choose/decide something that is beyond their ability, such as taking a big risk just because there is a greater chance of winning, but on the other hand it must be remembered that it is nothing more than a chance and is still uncertain. So yes, it's better not to overdo it in gambling and also yes it's true that if you have won then it's better to just take it and enjoy the results of the victory, there's nothing wrong with enjoying your victory once in a while.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 13, 2023, 03:58:15 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
Sorry, but i will have to disagree with you even though i still very much respect your opinion, no one in this world is always right with every decision they make, not me, not you, not the next person reading this, no one anywhere is 100 percent perfect in making decisions, we all just make decisions based on how we feel about something, or what we think about that situation or problem, or whatever we need to make or take a decision on, and as well, resolve to bear whatever be the result of that decision we took.

And again, not all risks are profitable, some risks some people take are very stupid and uncalculated risks, even if they end up making something good from such risk, it's only by luck, some will call it grace.

But what i do know is that, 99 percent of stupid and uncalculated risks always end up on losses and disaster for the risk taker, so even though it's good to take risk, as we cannot succeed without taking some level of risk, it is also very important that we mind the type of risk we take, else, we end up losing the little we have managed to gather over the years or period of time.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: topbitcoin on November 13, 2023, 04:09:04 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.

As long as we are able to bear all the risks, including large losses in betting or gambling. As long as we are able to accept these things, then it is not something serious enough. And what becomes troublesome is when someone pretends to be brave enough to bet a large enough amount, but when he loses he immediately regrets it and accuses the gambling site he visited of not behaving fairly.

And we need to understand carefully that there is not much difference between being brave and being careless. Someone who has more courage in placing bets, not only dares to bet large amounts but also dares to take risks.
While gamblers are careless. They dare to bet large amounts, but they don't want to bear the risks they will face and are unable to accept the reality if they lose in making the bet.

So it would be better if when gambling, we only bet on the amount we are ready to lose.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: oktana on November 13, 2023, 05:11:30 PM

I am not sure what you’re trying to say but being greedy is a very bad habit. If you choose to gamble recklessly (take unnecessary checkjust because you’re trying to be greedy, you may end up with a lot of losses than can evertually grow to debts. Also you will eventually stop paying attention to the limits you set because you’re hungry to win more more than average.

Basically, greed is shared by all humans, even if we relate it to gambling. and we are well aware that greed is something that is not good and is not even worth emulating. the problem is, what is the difference between greed and risk in this thread. Honestly, I don't get the essence. When we discuss gambling, we cannot say that every gambler who bets with a large bankroll is a greedy gambler. because, it all depends on a person's ability and how much he can afford to lose. Plus, gamblers who gamble with high bankrolls are well aware of the risks.

In this phase, greed and risk become a part that is biased and confused from my personal point of view. I mean, referring to the thread of this post. but referring to what you said in this post, we agree and there is nothing wrong with that. that is a very bad habit. and the most appropriate point to describe greed is, we will be hungry to win more than average.
But on the gambling side, in fact this is a very common thing. We are gamblers, you will try to get the maximum limit of your winnings. after that, you will be more interested in getting more results. and that's natural, because we know very well that gambling requires capital and contains risks. so what it should be, I think this depends on how we look at it. if we think from the negative side, then the results will be negative. But if we think from the gambling side, then this is a risk. If you don't want to take risks the answer is simple, just stay away from gambling.

In your second paragraph, you seem to be capitalizing on risk. There’s a difference between risk and greed (which is why this thread was even created). We all know gambling is a risk but gambling isn’t greed. There’s a way you gamble and it doesn’t give off risk but then it gives off greed. And someone who is greedy is bound to lose a lot in gambling. Because as a gambler, you should know when to have enough. You should have targets, you shouldn’t take unnecessary risks. Additionally, Gambling isn’t bad if you do it responsibly.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on November 13, 2023, 05:11:47 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.


And again, not all risks are profitable, some risks some people take are very stupid and uncalculated risks, even if they end up making something good from such risk, it's only by luck, some will call it grace.

But what i do know is that, 99 percent of stupid and uncalculated risks always end up on losses and disaster for the risk taker, so even though it's good to take risk, as we cannot succeed without taking some level of risk, it is also very important that we mind the type of risk we take, else, we end up losing the little we have managed to gather over the years or period of time.

Yeah, risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risks because that is the only way you can make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risks for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks,  I can not really relate anything to grace when it comes to risk and any uncalculated risk for me is stupidity and the gambler need to be checked because courtesy demands that,  be for you take any risk,  you have to take and carry out. Foisic evaluation of the whole process and make sure you know what you are opting into before you take the risk but anything outside that,  is not a smart way to act.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 13, 2023, 05:16:00 PM

Yeah risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risk because that is the only way you be make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risk for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks

The risk was the essential in the gambling site,the risk is the icon of the gambling.The famous thinkers had mentioned about the gambling without risk is like human body without the soul.So the risk alone made the gambler to made the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should not allow their greedy to get into the gambling betting based on their continuous win in the gambling site.The big risking gambler had made their big win in the history of the gambler over a decade.The gambler who allow the greediness will badly allow their emotion to the gambling betting without their own knowledge,So finally he had loss the money in the gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 14, 2023, 12:14:59 AM
Well, @Orpichukwu, there are people who have millions of dollars to risk in gambling or in any investment. These people don't consider their decisions to be greed but they do see it as a way to make more money. They are also not too concerned if they lose money, and the reason is because they have more money and they believe they will luckily have one bet that can help them recover their losses. So, to them, it's a risk and not greed, but if you look at it from your own perspective, because you don't actually have that much money to waste, you will likely see it as greedy.

I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.

Although that game seems to have a small odd, the possibility of winning is higher than the chance of losing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 14, 2023, 05:55:25 AM
I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.
It was still greed because he only used a small amount of money to place the bet but he rejected the winnings that were already in front of him by not cashing out because he still expected to get the full winnings. He should have been able to take the money and withdraw it to his account so he could celebrate his win even if he didn't complete the bet. But that meant more than him still waiting until the match was over so he could get all the money. Of course, it can wait until the match is over, but he should also be able to realize that he has bet with little money money and can get quite a lot of money. So he shouldn't be greedy to get more. He can also still bet on other matches and still have a chance to get another big win.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: zuzie on November 14, 2023, 06:23:46 AM
I can consider this being greedy if the gambler used money that was not his own to stake in that game, and he is already making a huge profit but doesn't want to cash out. Also, I will consider this greedy if the gambler used only $1 to stake in that game and has about $2k to cash out but refuses to.
It was still greed because he only used a small amount of money to place the bet but he rejected the winnings that were already in front of him by not cashing out because he still expected to get the full winnings. He should have been able to take the money and withdraw it to his account so he could celebrate his win even if he didn't complete the bet. But that meant more than him still waiting until the match was over so he could get all the money. Of course, it can wait until the match is over, but he should also be able to realize that he has bet with little money money and can get quite a lot of money. So he shouldn't be greedy to get more. He can also still bet on other matches and still have a chance to get another big win.

Yes, because of the greed in him, he didn't immediately take the opportunity to take the money in front of his eyes, because he hoped that if he bet again, the money would be more.

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: EluguHcman on November 14, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks.
There is absolutely nothing greedy about in this circumstances because nothing ever happened a dream at the period of time he placed the bet.
He already decided a risk by staking with such amount of money and before he proceeded with the bet, the huge bet odds was surfaced meaning he already made up his mind up his mind taking it a risk.

Besides... Not even excepting greeds can save you from loosing in gambling as gambling has all natures of risk taking.

However, cashing out before the end of game probably is majorly for unusual bettors as a manner of eliminating greed but accepts whatever little profits gained but a usually bettor would want to see its end time as a risk bearer.

Afterall, this would have you all time to be blamed whether the game cut you all off because you didn't place and early cash out order or you cashed out a half way and the game played fully at the end of it.
I love meeting with the bottom lines of what I started so I am definitely letting the game all play let what gat to be to be.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: yazher on November 14, 2023, 07:51:23 AM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: SmartCharpa on November 14, 2023, 11:34:49 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

Did he go on to win the money, I wonder? If so, he had good reason for not cash out the game. Although I don't gamble, if I were the one who bet on the game and saw that I had made money from my stake, I would definitely cash out because I don't know when I will get another chance. In my opinion, gambling is all about luck; regardless of our skill levels, I can't look at the money and still lose everything.


If your friend played the game, I don't think he is greedy because I don't know how long he has been losing money to gambling, and he might view the winnings as a huge chance to turn his life around for the better. Everyone who gambles has a strategy for it and is prepared to take any risks; many gamblers have decided they will never cash out their games. Another friend of mine gambles for a living, although he never used to win. No matter how much money he has left over after a bet, he won't cash out, He always say there is hope for betting until he see the end of the game, which the previous game used to spoil his tickets. To me i simply cannot allow anything to occur to me repeatedly.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: summonerrk on November 14, 2023, 11:45:25 AM
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It is always very important to understand mathematics if a player decides to play gambling seriously. In batting, poker and other similar games, you need to understand that the more depends on your skills, and the less depends on luck, the better. If a player makes one but a big bet, then the influence of luck in this case is maximum, and this is bad. Because the influence of the player's knowledge has a minimal impact. It is better to make a lot of small bets, and then there will be a profit. And one big bet is the same as playing with randomness.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 14, 2023, 01:29:42 PM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.
The problem is that the player very often does not know why he is getting rich, I recently heard this in an interview with a gambler. He was just playing and wanted a lot of money. He doesn't even know the exact amount he needs. For example, even if he is lucky and wins $50k or even more. At first glance, it seems that this is a very good amount of money and it’s probably worth stopping playing forever. But the player will continue until he loses. But if he had decided before and written about it on paper, he definitely could have stopped, but almost no one does this, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 14, 2023, 07:42:53 PM
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It is very true, every time we make any type of bets in a casino we win, because it is obvious that we want to continue winning more and this is something that impels us to continue in the game, so we must consider that we are not like this making bets and winning , we can also make a big bet and lose a big bet, and that is something that hits us hard in the pocket , because we have bet a lot, so in this case what I do is change to Strategy , that is, now I don't bet big , what I do is bet With very little money, that is, the minimum bet, this so that I can pass the level of adrenilian generated by having been winning and lower my spirits, emcoines and everything that has to do with emotion of playing, then we could say that greed can be present in these cases, but it is not that it is decisive, everything that can be done through money has to be managed , money is delicate , especially when it is risked.

When we bet we Always make a quick or long-term Prediction , because you have thought about why you can win and what the odds are, other types of considerations are or can be evaluated but in part all we need is to do our right argument. be able to emerge Victorious , and this has a lot to do with what can be put at risk, if we have little money, it is irresponsible for us to risk it in a bet, or in a casino, because it is irrelevant that with little we want to think that leaving everything to luck, things can turn out well for us and suddenly they don't , because we are left with the worst or nothing , and I think that is not an irresponsible game, it opens up more to greed and greed makes us lose absolutely everything, then that I feel like when you have it, you have to erase it , try to get it out of your mind because it's not Healthy to have it, but that's my way of thinking, I think it's the best , from my own Experience.
You have to be able to control yourself after getting that big win and continue to restrain yourself because if you lose control of yourself, you will definitely continue gambling. There is a possibility that you will increase the amount of the bet because you definitely think that by increasing the amount of the bet, you will win. Lots. If what you want comes true, you will definitely be happy, but not so, friend, because gambling is not your friend, so you will feel sad when you experience defeat. But if you can then reduce your betting level to very little, congratulations because you can realize that you made a mistake and immediately correct it before you lose more money, and that is progress for you because you can realize it. Casinos are not a place to make money, that is what you have to realize and understand, and you don't need to torture yourself by placing large bets because that means you will experience quite a lot of losses.

There is no need to make quick or long-term predictions because you will not always be able to win, so you can enjoy your bet and don't expect much from your bet. If you win, congratulations, but if you lose, you don't need to be too disappointed because it is your fate to lose. Still, there is a possibility that you can win another day, so what you need to do is immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. You will only be able to win a little if you have luck, and we already know that for sure because many people try to gamble more often, but they end up losing more. Surprising. But that's how it is, so in this case, you are the one who controls everything, including the money, and don't be fooled by what you see out there because it won't always be what you imagine. Moreover, we all have more experience than other people out there, so we can overcome this so as not to gamble excessively. We can remain consistent in managing our gambling activities because we don't want to experience big problems such as gambling addiction.


Of course, when it is all about how to do things better, it is necessary to see that in our game we must not only persist the good strategies, the good way of making bets, and above all to improve that feeling that Sometimes comes out called greed, because This is one of the things that you cannot invent or do whatever is Necessary to be able to see things better, one in the casino must always consider not losing control, sometimes they talk about having the best way to be able to control, but It is something that is very Difficult because when we are playing it is not very easy to be there looking for a way to make the best move, but that is where the balance can go, that is why I always start from the main thing that is to remain attentive. to everything that may be necessary to reach a consensus, such as being well involved in the playing game, winning without Losing all the money , is what is basically sought.

On the other hand, when we are in a casino we must always keep our thoughts very positive, but on the ground, that is, we cannot get our hopes up in a casino if we see that things can be quite strong, because casinos usually give many life Lessons to many Players , therefore when you think that you can achieve a lot, the opposite can happen, that is why when we are doing something in the game we must consider first, that we are players who are not going to be above the casino, and that the casino will always have the house advantage, this gloq eu will always be fulfilled, therefore when we are in any of the moments for any game, we are not going to have self-control for everything, That is to say, sometimes emotions, impulses are what can make us go wrong in things, so basically when you have to place bets, you must play intelligently, you Cannot think any other way.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oilacris on November 14, 2023, 07:59:20 PM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.
The problem is that the player very often does not know why he is getting rich, I recently heard this in an interview with a gambler. He was just playing and wanted a lot of money. He doesn't even know the exact amount he needs. For example, even if he is lucky and wins $50k or even more. At first glance, it seems that this is a very good amount of money and it’s probably worth stopping playing forever. But the player will continue until he loses. But if he had decided before and written about it on paper, he definitely could have stopped, but almost no one does this, unfortunately.
You would be lose of track on the time that you are there or on the time that you are on a gambling session.Even if you do hit tens or hundreds of thousands but still it would really be that ending up on having no contentment and gambler would really be definitely be pursuing something more because of the greed that they are really that having that kind of feeling at that moment.
Being greedy is a natural thing for human beings on which there are some who are really that good on controlling it and there are ones who do really fail on doing so or simply
it would really be that situational since not all would really be that greedy on the time that they do face up some winning and some could be able to control
on point and stop completely and call it a day.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 14, 2023, 10:30:31 PM

It was still greed because he only used a small amount of money to place the bet but he rejected the winnings that were already in front of him by not cashing out because he still expected to get the full winnings.

From what I can see on that image, he staked 1,000,000.00, and the figure on the right-hand side of the image is the cash out, I guess, but if it's not the cash out but the potential win, then where is the amount of cash out? Because it means it's not there. But the game has just a small odd, which has a high possibility of going as predicted, but just like in gambling, you can't predict the final result until the game is over and the final result is known. Do you know that there are some people who can stake like $100 on different matches, and as the game keeps going, they can be seeing cash of up to $10k, but because their potential win is like $100k, they will not cash out the $10k they got? That's totally the greed I know more about.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: zuzie on November 15, 2023, 01:49:38 AM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.

Because it is very difficult for an addict to understand and carry out a behavior well, because he only thinks about how to get his wish granted immediately even though in the end he will experience a downturn in his life.
Of course, it is impossible for anyone to be successful in carrying out their gambling. If there are people who are successful here, it is probably only a few and most people will experience losses, because they gamble without any control or the influence of greed. their minds so they will do everything to quickly become successful. rich.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 15, 2023, 05:11:41 AM
Yes, because of the greed in him, he didn't immediately take the opportunity to take the money in front of his eyes, because he hoped that if he bet again, the money would be more.

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.
Yes, that's how it is for a greedy gambler because he is never satisfied with the winnings he has gotten and will try to win another big win so he will continue gambling in other gambling games.

If he continues gambling by placing small bets, it doesn't guarantee he can win again and even if he wins, he can only win small. He will definitely experience small losses many times so it will use up all his winnings until there is nothing left at all. And when all his money is gone, he will regret it because he has indulged in his greed to chase a bigger win even though it is actually not easy to get. He must start to change his behavior and thought patterns so that he no longer follows his greed and can know when he should stop gambling, especially after winning.

From what I can see on that image, he staked 1,000,000.00, and the figure on the right-hand side of the image is the cash out, I guess, but if it's not the cash out but the potential win, then where is the amount of cash out? Because it means it's not there. But the game has just a small odd, which has a high possibility of going as predicted, but just like in gambling, you can't predict the final result until the game is over and the final result is known. Do you know that there are some people who can stake like $100 on different matches, and as the game keeps going, they can be seeing cash of up to $10k, but because their potential win is like $100k, they will not cash out the $10k they got? That's totally the greed I know more about.
Yes, that is because of the greed that every gambler has. The only difference is that there are gamblers who can really control their greed well so that they will not indulge their greed but will stop themselves from gambling. If he sees there is cash that can be cashed in, he can cash it in and not wait for the game to finish. But it is all up to each gambler and it will be his decision if he wants to wait until the match is over, but he must also be able to accept the risks he will take at the end of the match. He also has to know that at the end of the game, everything can change from being able to see his profits and being able to cash them in until he finally gets no wins at all. Moreover, we know that in a match, everything can change and not match our predictions.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 15, 2023, 05:37:47 AM
~snip~
It is very true, every time we make any type of bets in a casino we win, because it is obvious that we want to continue winning more and this is something that impels us to continue in the game, so we must consider that we are not like this making bets and winning , we can also make a big bet and lose a big bet, and that is something that hits us hard in the pocket , because we have bet a lot, so in this case what I do is change to Strategy , that is, now I don't bet big , what I do is bet With very little money, that is, the minimum bet, this so that I can pass the level of adrenilian generated by having been winning and lower my spirits, emcoines and everything that has to do with emotion of playing, then we could say that greed can be present in these cases, but it is not that it is decisive, everything that can be done through money has to be managed , money is delicate , especially when it is risked.

When we bet we Always make a quick or long-term Prediction , because you have thought about why you can win and what the odds are, other types of considerations are or can be evaluated but in part all we need is to do our right argument. be able to emerge Victorious , and this has a lot to do with what can be put at risk, if we have little money, it is irresponsible for us to risk it in a bet, or in a casino, because it is irrelevant that with little we want to think that leaving everything to luck, things can turn out well for us and suddenly they don't , because we are left with the worst or nothing , and I think that is not an irresponsible game, it opens up more to greed and greed makes us lose absolutely everything, then that I feel like when you have it, you have to erase it , try to get it out of your mind because it's not Healthy to have it, but that's my way of thinking, I think it's the best , from my own Experience.
You have to be able to control yourself after getting that big win and continue to restrain yourself because if you lose control of yourself, you will definitely continue gambling. There is a possibility that you will increase the amount of the bet because you definitely think that by increasing the amount of the bet, you will win. Lots. If what you want comes true, you will definitely be happy, but not so, friend, because gambling is not your friend, so you will feel sad when you experience defeat. But if you can then reduce your betting level to very little, congratulations because you can realize that you made a mistake and immediately correct it before you lose more money, and that is progress for you because you can realize it. Casinos are not a place to make money, that is what you have to realize and understand, and you don't need to torture yourself by placing large bets because that means you will experience quite a lot of losses.

There is no need to make quick or long-term predictions because you will not always be able to win, so you can enjoy your bet and don't expect much from your bet. If you win, congratulations, but if you lose, you don't need to be too disappointed because it is your fate to lose. Still, there is a possibility that you can win another day, so what you need to do is immediately stop gambling and leave the casino. You will only be able to win a little if you have luck, and we already know that for sure because many people try to gamble more often, but they end up losing more. Surprising. But that's how it is, so in this case, you are the one who controls everything, including the money, and don't be fooled by what you see out there because it won't always be what you imagine. Moreover, we all have more experience than other people out there, so we can overcome this so as not to gamble excessively. We can remain consistent in managing our gambling activities because we don't want to experience big problems such as gambling addiction.


Of course, when it is all about how to do things better, it is necessary to see that in our game we must not only persist the good strategies, the good way of making bets, and above all to improve that feeling that Sometimes comes out called greed, because This is one of the things that you cannot invent or do whatever is Necessary to be able to see things better, one in the casino must always consider not losing control, sometimes they talk about having the best way to be able to control, but It is something that is very Difficult because when we are playing it is not very easy to be there looking for a way to make the best move, but that is where the balance can go, that is why I always start from the main thing that is to remain attentive. to everything that may be necessary to reach a consensus, such as being well involved in the playing game, winning without Losing all the money , is what is basically sought.

Controlling yourself when playing is something that is difficult to do, unlike saying it which is so easy, especially controlling the emotions that will arise when we are playing. This is also one of the things that is difficult for gamblers to do so they can lose a lot of money when gambling. underline that if we can control ourselves, we will probably not experience a big loss of money and play wisely and have playing limits, especially when we win, where feelings will become indecisive if we don't have playing limits, because we are confused about whether to continue or take the winnings that we have obtained. However, when most gamblers win like this, they choose to continue playing because of their greed, so there is a big risk they will take, and they are not aware of the risks they will face. So the dealer can laugh with those who are addicted hahaha.

On the other hand, when we are in a casino we must always keep our thoughts very positive, but on the ground, that is, we cannot get our hopes up in a casino if we see that things can be quite strong, because casinos usually give many life Lessons to many Players , therefore when you think that you can achieve a lot, the opposite can happen, that is why when we are doing something in the game we must consider first, that we are players who are not going to be above the casino, and that the casino will always have the house advantage, this gloq eu will always be fulfilled, therefore when we are in any of the moments for any game, we are not going to have self-control for everything, That is to say, sometimes emotions, impulses are what can make us go wrong in things, so basically when you have to place bets, you must play intelligently, you Cannot think any other way.

Yes, it's true, and there are also many gamblers who have big hopes for gambling so that they can spend a lot of money gambling with the desire to get a big win that can change their life, but this is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand and not everyone will experience it, because that's what happens. Basically gambling also involves luck which will be on our side to win, but they are not aware of that luck. So many of them continue to chase victory without caring about the money they spend gambling. and indeed that is the impulse that makes them take the wrong steps in gambling so that they experience big losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 15, 2023, 06:41:20 AM
Yes, because of the greed in him, he didn't immediately take the opportunity to take the money in front of his eyes, because he hoped that if he bet again, the money would be more.

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.
Yes, that's how it is for a greedy gambler because he is never satisfied with the winnings he has gotten and will try to win another big win so he will continue gambling in other gambling games.

If he continues gambling by placing small bets, it doesn't guarantee he can win again and even if he wins, he can only win small. He will definitely experience small losses many times so it will use up all his winnings until there is nothing left at all. And when all his money is gone, he will regret it because he has indulged in his greed to chase a bigger win even though it is actually not easy to get. He must start to change his behavior and thought patterns so that he no longer follows his greed and can know when he should stop gambling, especially after winning.

With a sense of dissatisfaction that controls them so that they can experience continued losses, and of course with a mentality that will be disturbed and can even be damaged because of the feeling of wanting to gamble again that controls them.
I think the mindset that must be changed as you said, they must have a game limit that certainly will not  be detrimental to themselves, and if they have a game limit also they can enjoy the small winnings by cashing in without any thought of continuing the game that is controlled by greed that is not necessarily going to give them a big win. By continuing to play even with a large or small bet value, it does not rule out the possibility that they can lose, the loss or defeat they feel will certainly bring resentment and want to gamble again with the belief that they can reverse the loss or victory that has been lost. This has become a major problem in every gambler. So I'm not surprised that many of them waste the opportunity to cash out even though the winnings they get are not big.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on November 15, 2023, 09:29:50 AM

If someone has won at gambling and he is still waiting for the gambling to end while placing a small bet then subconsciously that person will slowly run out of money because he is unable to control his behavior when gambling, he should go home and enjoy his winnings by having fun. And it is true that if someone is greedy, it is very difficult to have a good mindset not to continue gambling and we still often encounter behavior like this in the field.

Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.

Because it is very difficult for an addict to understand and carry out a behavior well, because he only thinks about how to get his wish granted immediately even though in the end he will experience a downturn in his life.
Of course, it is impossible for anyone to be successful in carrying out their gambling. If there are people who are successful here, it is probably only a few and most people will experience losses, because they gamble without any control or the influence of greed. their minds so they will do everything to quickly become successful. rich.

It's difficult as the only matter inside their minds is on how to win and how to satisfy that lust inside them, they can't control whatever emotions
that keeps popping up inside their minds whenever they feel the adrenaline rush.

If only they'd got that instinct of being responsible and they cared about the money, once they'd already got something they could simply quit and stop.

Though there are some gamblers who can manage to control their emotions and can take that edge out of the house, but the majorities are not.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wakate on November 15, 2023, 02:14:44 PM

Yeah risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risk because that is the only way you be make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risk for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks

The risk was the essential in the gambling site,the risk is the icon of the gambling.The famous thinkers had mentioned about the gambling without risk is like human body without the soul.So the risk alone made the gambler to made the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should not allow their greedy to get into the gambling betting based on their continuous win in the gambling site.The big risking gambler had made their big win in the history of the gambler over a decade.The gambler who allow the greediness will badly allow their emotion to the gambling betting without their own knowledge,So finally he had loss the money in the gambling.
whether we are gambling or not, walking on a busy street, doing our various jobs, risk is applied to virtually everything we do and we should not be surprised about that. It is very important for us to make sure that any investment or anything we are doing, we should also make sure that we take the necessary risk and not use greed to crumble our lifestyle. Gambling has it own level of greed but it is very important for it not to be too much.

 Those who understand what it takes to be profitable in the gambling industry for a long time with any loses can attest to the necessary precautions we needed to adhere to for us to be risk less in some of the decisions we are taking. We ought to make profits in gambling but it is nit guaranteed that we all going to make profits everytime from what we do.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Davidvictorson on November 15, 2023, 02:42:52 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on November 15, 2023, 02:50:22 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.
Arguing about greed vs. risk is like going around in circles, because both sides have good points. Thinking about what might happen is one thing when you're in a calm place, but when you're in the middle of something? That is not the same thing at all. When people think about what they might lose or gain, they often dismiss logic. Our emotions take over and make us make choices that we dont expect.

What should I do? Setting limits for yourself before jumping in might be the answer. Set an amount you can lose or a number you want to win. This planned move ahead of time could help you keep your emotions in check while making gambling choices. Finding the right mix means enjoying the thrill of the gamble while also having a safety net in place. After all, isnt part of the fun of the game dealing with risk? If you want to know whether to play it safe or take a chance, you should probably make a plan before the game plays you.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Doan9269 on November 15, 2023, 03:01:25 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.

Once it comes to gambling, we should know that it's all about taking a risk of winning or loosing whennwe are gambling, but why should we also decided to add risk ontop risk to make things more complicated for us all the way, we need to think twice before making any decisions in gambling because When we concluded on any, we should also be ready to accept the consequences that may comes after what we have chosen, the greed in us can lead to landing at the spot we least expect because of the level of risk involved from our actions.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 15, 2023, 03:15:23 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.

Once it comes to gambling, we should know that it's all about taking a risk of winning or loosing whennwe are gambling, but why should we also decided to add risk ontop risk to make things more complicated for us all the way, we need to think twice before making any decisions in gambling because When we concluded on any, we should also be ready to accept the consequences that may comes after what we have chosen, the greed in us can lead to landing at the spot we least expect because of the level of risk involved from our actions.

Well your statement is absolutely right buddy, the most important thing that must be considered is in terms of the risks involved in gambling, not just thinking about the benefits. Therefore, as you say that before we enter gambling, we must be able to consider in advance about whether we are ready or not for anything that will happen later, do not let you gamble but are not ready when the risk of defeat comes because gambling is only about winning and losing, and usually defeat will occur more often than victory which may only come occasionally.

Therefore we must really think twice before deciding to gamble, if you are not ready then it is better not to engage in this activity. There are two facts that can be chosen by them between they gamble just for fun or they come to make money, honestly I will not suggest the second point because it is very silly and does not make sense. And honestly I would only advise them if they really want to gamble to choose the first point only, which is to come only for entertainment, because obviously what must be considered is the mindset about their purpose for coming, if it is only for entertainment then I think they will not act rashly like applying greed. So the point is, think about it before it's too late and you regret it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: uneng on November 15, 2023, 03:55:32 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.
Actually, one of them will be right, based on the result of the match they are talking about. If the match is lost, the one telling it was greed would be right and could say: I warned you... While if the match is won, the one telling it worths to take risks would be right and could say: I told you...

Right or wrong decision on this situation is too fragile and subjective: the essential factor here is the game's result. Personally, I don't believe it's greed if the risks are calculated and the gambler is playing with money he can afford to lose. He knows what he is doing and he programmed himself to do this previously. And since the chances are good that he will get the whole reward after all, why should he cash out earlier?

Risks are inevitable when gambling, and while taking them people can't have a weak mind to conclude they are being greed for that reason... With that kind of mentality, it's better to not even start betting.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dezoel on November 15, 2023, 06:02:32 PM
Sadly, there are more people in the gambling industry who cannot control themselves when they are winning and they are not capable of doing that because they are addicted to it. It's really hard to stop playing when you have all the means to do so but in reality, you need to stop and not be greedy because no one has ever been successful in this world when they cannot be satisfied with what they currently have. Rather they keep grinding until they lose everything because they even choose to take huge risks like gambling just to increase their wealth or to become rich quickly.
The problem is that the player very often does not know why he is getting rich, I recently heard this in an interview with a gambler. He was just playing and wanted a lot of money. He doesn't even know the exact amount he needs. For example, even if he is lucky and wins $50k or even more. At first glance, it seems that this is a very good amount of money and it’s probably worth stopping playing forever. But the player will continue until he loses. But if he had decided before and written about it on paper, he definitely could have stopped, but almost no one does this, unfortunately.
It depends on a gambler's personal financial goals and targets in my opinion. $50k might be a very big amount for some people, especially those who don't have or earn that much for a year or so, however, the same amount might not be enough for them to stop gambling just because they have got it and it is enough for them to stop gambling forever. People from first-world countries will probably not find that amount high enough for them to stop gambling forever.

A person from a third-world country can start a high-scale business with that amount and sit and eat for the rest of their lives if they manage their business very well. So, it depends on things like a person's financial status, their goals, their background, or even their country of residence.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 15, 2023, 08:24:21 PM
Yes, that is because of the greed that every gambler has. The only difference is that there are gamblers who can really control their greed well so that they will not indulge their greed but will stop themselves from gambling. If he sees there is cash that can be cashed in, he can cash it in and not wait for the game to finish. But it is all up to each gambler and it will be his decision if he wants to wait until the match is over, but he must also be able to accept the risks he will take at the end of the match. He also has to know that at the end of the game, everything can change from being able to see his profits and being able to cash them in until he finally gets no wins at all. Moreover, we know that in a match, everything can change and not match our predictions.

Yeah, some gamblers can actually control their greed in gambling, while others cannot. They always want to take the risk and see the outcome of the game. It's after they lose the game that they will begin to feel regret for the hash decision they took. There was a gambler in this popular casino that I regularly visited in my area. This guy staked just $0.1 in my local currency, and the potential win for that ticket was about $5000. As the game kept playing, he saw a cash out of $2k+ but refused to cash in. He had full confidence that all the games were going to play as predicted. When the last game was playing, his cashout increased to $3000+, but he refused to cash in until the game finally got busted. After the game got busted, that gambler fainted.

That's how greedy gamblers can really get


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rachael9385 on November 15, 2023, 08:34:18 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
I strongly believe that without risk there is also no reward to anything both in gambling or investment, risk are the main basics thing to be considered, so risky is the most important but when it comes to greed in terms of gamble then a gambler shouldn't let it over come the risk, the reasons are because if the greed is more in gambling all the mindset if the gambler will only be to hit big win that's all and still the gambler might still end up losing all if only he or she managed to win big money, so when it comes to the risk aspect, the gambler already have in mind that he might not win but just hoping for luck that's all.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: zuzie on November 16, 2023, 01:52:43 AM

Because it is very difficult for an addict to understand and carry out a behavior well, because he only thinks about how to get his wish granted immediately even though in the end he will experience a downturn in his life.
Of course, it is impossible for anyone to be successful in carrying out their gambling. If there are people who are successful here, it is probably only a few and most people will experience losses, because they gamble without any control or the influence of greed. their minds so they will do everything to quickly become successful. rich.

It's difficult as the only matter inside their minds is on how to win and how to satisfy that lust inside them, they can't control whatever emotions
that keeps popping up inside their minds whenever they feel the adrenaline rush.

If only they'd got that instinct of being responsible and they cared about the money, once they'd already got something they could simply quit and stop.

Though there are some gamblers who can manage to control their emotions and can take that edge out of the house, but the majorities are not.


It is true, with thoughts like that in a person, he tends to play more aggressively even though he is aware that he will not receive satisfaction or desires quickly, and he will find it difficult to control himself in limiting or regulating when gambling.

In fact, a sense of responsibility may be in his mind, but he is not yet able to carry out this responsible behavior well. It could be that when he plays, he finds it easy to win so he will continue gambling until he feels satisfied.

Yes, because gamblers don't have strong control, they will easily be tempted by gambling tricks in that place. When they win, they don't take advantage of it and instead continue gambling, perhaps this has already been experienced by gamblers.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 16, 2023, 05:56:54 AM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
I strongly believe that without risk there is also no reward to anything both in gambling or investment, risk are the main basics thing to be considered, so risky is the most important but when it comes to greed in terms of gamble then a gambler shouldn't let it over come the risk, the reasons are because if the greed is more in gambling all the mindset if the gambler will only be to hit big win that's all and still the gambler might still end up losing all if only he or she managed to win big money, so when it comes to the risk aspect, the gambler already have in mind that he might not win but just hoping for luck that's all.

Investment, business, business, or others certainly have their own risks, especially with gambling that many people are interested in today, so many people play gambling with the desire to win big. And as you said, the greed that exists in them will make everything chaotic so that a lot of money is lost due to gambling and unconsciously the gamblers can spend a lot of money just for gambling which will certainly gradually damage their mentality and mindset so that there is the potential to cause harmful effects from gambling if they do it excessively.

In contrast to people who can control themselves when playing gambling, and limit the game, for example, when they get a win, they will immediately withdraw or cash out the winnings they get and not continue playing because they already know what will happen in the end. At times like that they can realize, but if greed controls them when they get a win, of course it will be a different story, you can be sure they will lose and feel frustrated because of the defeat that has made their winnings disappear. Many people are not prepared for the risks they should face, causing periodic addiction.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 16, 2023, 08:14:33 AM
With a sense of dissatisfaction that controls them so that they can experience continued losses, and of course with a mentality that will be disturbed and can even be damaged because of the feeling of wanting to gamble again that controls them.
I think the mindset that must be changed as you said, they must have a game limit that certainly will not  be detrimental to themselves, and if they have a game limit also they can enjoy the small winnings by cashing in without any thought of continuing the game that is controlled by greed that is not necessarily going to give them a big win. By continuing to play even with a large or small bet value, it does not rule out the possibility that they can lose, the loss or defeat they feel will certainly bring resentment and want to gamble again with the belief that they can reverse the loss or victory that has been lost. This has become a major problem in every gambler. So I'm not surprised that many of them waste the opportunity to cash out even though the winnings they get are not big.
Changing their mindset is a must for those who are still thinking about getting more wins or who want to recover from their losses because this will not be achieved easily and they will even experience more losses. Those who are controlled by greed will not be able to think about what the impact will be if they continue gambling because they just want to continue gambling and don't want to stop gambling. This will cause mental damage because they will confidently continue gambling even if they have to spend more money than before. If they have a lot of money, it won't be a problem but even if they have a lot of money, there is a possibility that it will run out in a certain time if they don't control their greed. Greed will only bring losses to them and for this reason, they must immediately realize it before everything turns bad and turns their lives into chaos.

Yeah, some gamblers can actually control their greed in gambling, while others cannot. They always want to take the risk and see the outcome of the game. It's after they lose the game that they will begin to feel regret for the hash decision they took. There was a gambler in this popular casino that I regularly visited in my area. This guy staked just $0.1 in my local currency, and the potential win for that ticket was about $5000. As the game kept playing, he saw a cash out of $2k+ but refused to cash in. He had full confidence that all the games were going to play as predicted. When the last game was playing, his cashout increased to $3000+, but he refused to cash in until the game finally got busted. After the game got busted, that gambler fainted.

That's how greedy gamblers can really get
Those who can control their greed should be able to be grateful and be able to continue to control themselves so that they are not influenced by greed and must be careful and alert because this greed can become bigger along with the winnings they might get. People who do not see the potential cash they can get and instead chase even bigger wins are greedy people and cannot see the opportunity in front of them and take that opportunity. They tend to be greedy because they want to get bigger money and wait for the game to finish but it turns out that doesn't always come true or as they imagined because the situation might change at any time. That is why we must be able to prevent greed from coming to us and have the courage to make the decision to stop gambling when we have won.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 16, 2023, 08:19:18 AM
Gambling has it own level of greed but it is very important for it not to be too much.
Yes, that's true, greed sometimes arises when they are not satisfied with the winnings they have obtained so they take various high risks to achieve bigger profits. Football betting like in the picture OP posted can indeed give big profits if we can predict it. and analyze it properly first, but sports betting also has a high risk because the predictions are not completely correct.
therefore don't overdo it when we bet, It's okay to think about profits, but we also have to think about the risks and remain careful in betting so that we don't experience significant losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on November 16, 2023, 10:26:27 AM
Gambling has it own level of greed but it is very important for it not to be too much.
Yes, that's true, greed sometimes arises when they are not satisfied with the winnings they have obtained so they take various high risks to achieve bigger profits. Football betting like in the picture OP posted can indeed give big profits if we can predict it. and analyze it properly first, but sports betting also has a high risk because the predictions are not completely correct.
therefore don't overdo it when we bet, It's okay to think about profits, but we also have to think about the risks and remain careful in betting so that we don't experience significant losses.

If you can be on the safer side rather than the place where risk is high, though there's no control when greed comes out of you and allure
you to seek out more, most of the time instead of being content with your winnings you ask for more.

And there's where the trick of gambling catches you up and leaves you without any help, your own decision making brings you to the losing side instead
of getting something and enjoying it.

By deciding to push and aim for bigger earnings, it depends on what the outcome might be and how well you know the game that you are betting on.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on November 16, 2023, 10:55:49 AM
Well it turned out good for whoever made the bet, it’s not a bet I would have placed though. It all depends on personal circumstances, can he afford to lose that much money if Barcelona would have won or the match was a draw. If he can afford that potential loss then the bet isn’t a problem.

I just think the odds of less than 3/1 is too much of a risk because that game could easily have gone wrong for him. Barcelona are a good team, on any other day they could have at least drawn.

I’m not here to judge anybody though, we don’t know the bettors personal circumstances and if he is wealthy. Always gamble responsibly, don’t bet with more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 16, 2023, 11:51:10 AM
Gambling has it own level of greed but it is very important for it not to be too much.
Yes, that's true, greed sometimes arises when they are not satisfied with the winnings they have obtained so they take various high risks to achieve bigger profits. Football betting like in the picture OP posted can indeed give big profits if we can predict it. and analyze it properly first, but sports betting also has a high risk because the predictions are not completely correct.
therefore don't overdo it when we bet, It's okay to think about profits, but we also have to think about the risks and remain careful in betting so that we don't experience significant losses.

Exactly, it's a common cycle for someone who has entered the addiction phase, and dissatisfaction with the results they get is the starting point for greed, I think it's a common thing that every gambler and especially those who are addicted will experience. That's really a mindset and action that is not recommended, because obviously with greed it means as you said that they will take a much higher risk and also with the high level of pressure that they will feel. Besides, there is no certainty that you will be able to win a bigger amount again, because gambling is always random and with that, the final result cannot be predicted at all. But yes, if you are betting on bets that are based on skills and knowledge such as sports betting then yes you can increase the chances of winning with the skills you have as long as your methods and knowledge are really mature in the sport.

But yes on the other hand even though skills can increase your chances of winning still for the final result it will still refer to a fortune, so skills can indeed help but not completely, therefore we still have to bring a lot of restrictions, it becomes a strong reason so that we do not overdo it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: slapper on November 16, 2023, 04:31:28 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
I strongly believe that without risk there is also no reward to anything both in gambling or investment, risk are the main basics thing to be considered, so risky is the most important but when it comes to greed in terms of gamble then a gambler shouldn't let it over come the risk, the reasons are because if the greed is more in gambling all the mindset if the gambler will only be to hit big win that's all and still the gambler might still end up losing all if only he or she managed to win big money, so when it comes to the risk aspect, the gambler already have in mind that he might not win but just hoping for luck that's all.

Investment, business, business, or others certainly have their own risks, especially with gambling that many people are interested in today, so many people play gambling with the desire to win big. And as you said, the greed that exists in them will make everything chaotic so that a lot of money is lost due to gambling and unconsciously the gamblers can spend a lot of money just for gambling which will certainly gradually damage their mentality and mindset so that there is the potential to cause harmful effects from gambling if they do it excessively.

In contrast to people who can control themselves when playing gambling, and limit the game, for example, when they get a win, they will immediately withdraw or cash out the winnings they get and not continue playing because they already know what will happen in the end. At times like that they can realize, but if greed controls them when they get a win, of course it will be a different story, you can be sure they will lose and feel frustrated because of the defeat that has made their winnings disappear. Many people are not prepared for the risks they should face, causing periodic addiction.
Your assessment of gambling's duality is correct. Big triumphs might lead to huge losses due to chance and passion. The human mindset is crucial. It's tempting to want big wins quickly, but it's dangerous. This temptation causes financial and mental suffering for many gamblers. Hope and despair fuel the dangerous cycle of chasing losses

A few smart gamblers have a different perspective. They know when to stop. They pay out after a win since ongoing success is rare in such a turbulent climate. This methodical technique shows a deep awareness of gambling's unpredictability. They risk with a clear mind and realistic outlook. This method reduces risk, demonstrating ethical gambling


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Stable090 on November 16, 2023, 05:20:59 PM
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

It's best to always learn how to manage your risk when gambling. Certain things, I refer to as greediness rather than risk. It could only be a very tiny sum that is used to put the bet. It doesn't really make sense to me that you had the option to cash out that amount but chose not to. Don’t be surprise that the player will lose the bet and regret not cashing out when he had the chance. I know it's good to take risk, because if you can't, you won't succeed, but we also need to learn to be content with what we have because things won't always go as planned.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.

Sure, you will find it difficult to cash out because you will have the belief that if you leave it, you will be able to win complete money, but things don't always go as planned, so we don’t have to be greedy. If we are in a scenario, am sure just a few people will have the mindset of cashing out, others will want to leave it because they will have the belief to win all the bets.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 16, 2023, 06:21:23 PM
With a sense of dissatisfaction that controls them so that they can experience continued losses, and of course with a mentality that will be disturbed and can even be damaged because of the feeling of wanting to gamble again that controls them.
I think the mindset that must be changed as you said, they must have a game limit that certainly will not  be detrimental to themselves, and if they have a game limit also they can enjoy the small winnings by cashing in without any thought of continuing the game that is controlled by greed that is not necessarily going to give them a big win. By continuing to play even with a large or small bet value, it does not rule out the possibility that they can lose, the loss or defeat they feel will certainly bring resentment and want to gamble again with the belief that they can reverse the loss or victory that has been lost. This has become a major problem in every gambler. So I'm not surprised that many of them waste the opportunity to cash out even though the winnings they get are not big.
Apart from setting a limit. The most effective solution would be to stop. It can be for temporary or permanently if you are willing to replace gambling with some thing or activity which you think much better that you can benefit on it more than gambling.

To have a limit only has a draw back in terms of winning because some wins will come out later in the game but there are still times that they can come out early. Once we saw them, we should not think twice anymore but secure them immediately than lose them and regret. Not only that but it can also cause us to be greedy and lose more of our personal money. To have a comeback is still possible but the chance is always slim so it's not recommended.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fatunad on November 16, 2023, 06:35:02 PM
Sometimes you need to take risks to get something bigger, I see something in the picture is more about taking risks. Someone who always believes in his decisions will always be confident in the results obtained, he hasn't thought the way you think, there will be the right time to cash in and enjoy the results at stake. What is seen in the picture gives rise to different speculations, but the final decision depends on the owner of the money. His decisions are very correct based on his ability to predict, he will feel like the luckiest person because the risks taken are in line with expectations.
I strongly believe that without risk there is also no reward to anything both in gambling or investment, risk are the main basics thing to be considered, so risky is the most important but when it comes to greed in terms of gamble then a gambler shouldn't let it over come the risk, the reasons are because if the greed is more in gambling all the mindset if the gambler will only be to hit big win that's all and still the gambler might still end up losing all if only he or she managed to win big money, so when it comes to the risk aspect, the gambler already have in mind that he might not win but just hoping for luck that's all.

Investment, business, business, or others certainly have their own risks, especially with gambling that many people are interested in today, so many people play gambling with the desire to win big. And as you said, the greed that exists in them will make everything chaotic so that a lot of money is lost due to gambling and unconsciously the gamblers can spend a lot of money just for gambling which will certainly gradually damage their mentality and mindset so that there is the potential to cause harmful effects from gambling if they do it excessively.

In contrast to people who can control themselves when playing gambling, and limit the game, for example, when they get a win, they will immediately withdraw or cash out the winnings they get and not continue playing because they already know what will happen in the end. At times like that they can realize, but if greed controls them when they get a win, of course it will be a different story, you can be sure they will lose and feel frustrated because of the defeat that has made their winnings disappear. Many people are not prepared for the risks they should face, causing periodic addiction.
Your assessment of gambling's duality is correct. Big triumphs might lead to huge losses due to chance and passion. The human mindset is crucial. It's tempting to want big wins quickly, but it's dangerous. This temptation causes financial and mental suffering for many gamblers. Hope and despair fuel the dangerous cycle of chasing losses

A few smart gamblers have a different perspective. They know when to stop. They pay out after a win since ongoing success is rare in such a turbulent climate. This methodical technique shows a deep awareness of gambling's unpredictability. They risk with a clear mind and realistic outlook. This method reduces risk, demonstrating ethical gambling
On such situation then we would really be having that different approach when it comes to certain conditions on which it would really be neither you would really be that continuing or would be completely stopping
on the time that you do see that you could already be able to secure things but if you do want to risk even further then it would really be your choice because risk taking would really be that just that
basing up on how much risks you could really be able to put up. Some does have that kind of control and some could really just that able to forget on what are the things that needs to be done.
You cant really be able to reassess whether it would really be that something worth or not.

You cant really be able to tell whether it would really be thata good decision or not because results or outcomes would really be telling you if you had made out the right decision or not.
We wont really be able to know on what are the things if we wont really be that taking up such step because we do know that there are ones who could
really be able to take up the risks and there are ones who cant really be able to bare it out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 16, 2023, 08:45:15 PM
With a sense of dissatisfaction that controls them so that they can experience continued losses, and of course with a mentality that will be disturbed and can even be damaged because of the feeling of wanting to gamble again that controls them.
I think the mindset that must be changed as you said, they must have a game limit that certainly will not  be detrimental to themselves, and if they have a game limit also they can enjoy the small winnings by cashing in without any thought of continuing the game that is controlled by greed that is not necessarily going to give them a big win. By continuing to play even with a large or small bet value, it does not rule out the possibility that they can lose, the loss or defeat they feel will certainly bring resentment and want to gamble again with the belief that they can reverse the loss or victory that has been lost. This has become a major problem in every gambler. So I'm not surprised that many of them waste the opportunity to cash out even though the winnings they get are not big.
Apart from setting a limit. The most effective solution would be to stop. It can be for temporary or permanently if you are willing to replace gambling with some thing or activity which you think much better that you can benefit on it more than gambling.

To have a limit only has a draw back in terms of winning because some wins will come out later in the game but there are still times that they can come out early. Once we saw them, we should not think twice anymore but secure them immediately than lose them and regret. Not only that but it can also cause us to be greedy and lose more of our personal money. To have a comeback is still possible but the chance is always slim so it's not recommended.
Sometimes the best step we can take is to be as decisive as possible, and if a person thinks they are gambling more than what they can afford then they need to stop immediately, now this does not need to be a permanent decision, however people should stop for long enough so they can see what they have being doing wrong and correct their behavior, because if they do not do this then they could easily enter a dynamic for which it can be difficult for them to adjust their behavior and avoid losing so much money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: khiholangkang on November 16, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
It is futile to argue with your friend about whether it is greed or risk? In the end there is no winner of the argument because both sides would be right and each of your points would be valid. Just as you have written, the only thing you can do is which it was your money at stake and you have the option to cash out of keep betting.

Looking at the picture of it on a WhatsApp status where in a relaxed state, it is easy to think through it with a clear logical reasoning, but I bet you that if that were you in the real life scenario, your head will not be in one place. So many crazy thoughts will be running through your head. If it were me, I wouldn't know what to do...I may take the risk or not.
Which in the end returns to each to make a decision whether you will pull it or continue the game, do not debate except the money used for gambling belongs to both of you, in this context the situation is different and need further discussion.

I personally depend on the desire to return to the situation, whether I want to keep playing or not, with any money that has been won, in several times my experience at such a moment, relative, sometimes I play until it runs out sometimes I pull it to buy some drinks, And or can also wait for the soccer match that I am waiting for in order to follow a bet with a big margin.

Named greedy or the risk I think is not the case because maybe the situation affects the way of making decisions, not just because of ambition.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Odusko on November 16, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 16, 2023, 09:27:29 PM

Exactly, it's a common cycle for someone who has entered the addiction phase, and dissatisfaction with the results they get is the starting point for greed, I think it's a common thing that every gambler and especially those who are addicted will experience. That's really a mindset and action that is not recommended, because obviously with greed it means as you said that they will take a much higher risk and also with the high level of pressure that they will feel. Besides, there is no certainty that you will be able to win a bigger amount again, because gambling is always random and with that, the final result cannot be predicted at all. But yes, if you are betting on bets that are based on skills and knowledge such as sports betting then yes you can increase the chances of winning with the skills you have as long as your methods and knowledge are really mature in the sport.

But yes on the other hand even though skills can increase your chances of winning still for the final result it will still refer to a fortune, so skills can indeed help but not completely, therefore we still have to bring a lot of restrictions, it becomes a strong reason so that we do not overdo it.

The greedy was the outcome of the loss in the gambling in the continuous way,the loss in the gambling in continuous was not the big one.Because the gambling based on algorithm and luck.The gambler should their tactics for the game,but the making for the hard algorithm was not the easy one.Honestly the gambling site will allow you to win,but making the tactics for algorithm need more then a month.So the gambler should play the trail match before making the use of real money.All the gambling site will have the demo play which was used by the experienced player to tackle the algorithm.The gambler who was new to the gambling will made the blunder of using the real money to the site to find the algorithm of the gambling site.So gambler are not forced to get greedy for the loss regain strategy into the gambling iste.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on November 16, 2023, 10:20:04 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
Lucky enough, I just checked the match and came to realise that  Real Madrid did actually won the match as predicted in the game above, which means the person who staked this game did actually won. Because from what I could get from the source was that the match was at first playing draw at 90minutes (i.e  Barcelona 1 - 1 Real Madrid), only for Real Madrid to score an extra goal at 92 minutes into the game.

However, both risk and greed are two different concept, as while greed applies to the ability of one of trying to lose a penny, risk on the other hand is the ability for one to be able to to risk out lose or gain a certain amount


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 18, 2023, 01:19:03 AM

Yeah risk can be good and bad at the same time,  but what is most important is to take calculated risk because that is the only way you be make something good out of the risk,  and for that, if you take risk for just risks sake truly it will end in regret because chances are there that you will make a wrong choice along the line regardless of what the outcome of the risk may be.

First, for a reasonable person,  there is no risk if it is not calculated and for such in some cases you select the risk you take and I think that is the smartest way to handle risks

The risk was the essential in the gambling site,the risk is the icon of the gambling.The famous thinkers had mentioned about the gambling without risk is like human body without the soul.So the risk alone made the gambler to made the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should not allow their greedy to get into the gambling betting based on their continuous win in the gambling site.The big risking gambler had made their big win in the history of the gambler over a decade.The gambler who allow the greediness will badly allow their emotion to the gambling betting without their own knowledge,So finally he had loss the money in the gambling.

I start from the fact that at all times things are put at risk and we are all in constant risk and decisions, that's what life is about, for that reason we are people who at the moment of doing anything in the casino, because we base ourselves in that whenever we make any movement in the game it is a risk, so this can be divided into several things such as what other people can do within the game who have played and won a lot, so in this order of ideas we are people who at the same time When it comes to making bets, no matter how minimal we are, we are assuming a risk, and that risk has the sole potential of losing or winning, in this order of ideas things can happen so that it can generate any type of risk, so when we see that in The casino requires us to have good risk management because it is logical that things can be done more carried out or focused on having a better way of doing things in the casino.

Sometimes the risk is what we owe and we Know that when we are assuming risk, avarice, greed is very easy to determine, because when we are in the middle of the game, things can be quite obvious at the time of playing, if we go We won, and we have a good streak, in the first loss we must withdraw, because if we continue Playing it is very likely that we will lose and lose everything, that is something that can happen there is no doubt about it, so for that reason we have to do As much as possible to control our money, our greed , we are satisfied with the profits we have, it is good to withdraw, because if we withdraw we can guarantee that our profits are ready, it is better to Withdraw and enjoy what we have earned than to risk it and possibly lose. But if the person does not have the control to be able to resist losses, that is what happens to many people, so to avoid this, the necessary measures must be taken to Avoid all this.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 18, 2023, 06:53:55 AM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
That means he is ready to take the risk. Whatever the outcome, he can accept it well and not mind it. He dared to take the risk, so he waited patiently even though we knew it was a very long wait for the match to finish. Each of us has considerations about whether to cash out or still want to wait until the match is over. But seeing such a large amount of money can make people worried if they choose to wait because the game situation can change suddenly and make them lose. And that makes people who don't want to lose the opportunity to cash it out choose to cash it out. After all, they bet with a small amount of money and now they have seen the results of a lot of money so they think there is no need to be greedy to want bigger results.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on November 18, 2023, 03:45:44 PM

That means he is ready to take the risk. Whatever the outcome, he can accept it well and not mind it. He dared to take the risk, so he waited patiently even though we knew it was a very long wait for the match to finish. Each of us has considerations about whether to cash out or still want to wait until the match is over. But seeing such a large amount of money can make people worried if they choose to wait because the game situation can change suddenly and make them lose. And that makes people who don't want to lose the opportunity to cash it out choose to cash it out. After all, they bet with a small amount of money and now they have seen the results of a lot of money so they think there is no need to be greedy to want bigger results.
Whenever we settle to take any risk in life,  we tend to make it or lose it and for such we have to accept whatever outcome that may come from our taking the risk at some point and much more also check the level of the risk and what we may be faced with if it didn't go our ways,  because the problem with risk is that,  taking risk is not the entire problem,  but having the calculation to take the risk based on that calculation which places us in a better position ns that is what risk should be all about and how it works for us.

But any risk that is taken,  which decisions are based on greed,  emotions and overzealousness is not worth taking at all,  because several times, such risks have led to multiple losses before.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Shamm on November 18, 2023, 04:25:02 PM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
That means he is ready to take the risk. Whatever the outcome, he can accept it well and not mind it. He dared to take the risk, so he waited patiently even though we knew it was a very long wait for the match to finish. Each of us has considerations about whether to cash out or still want to wait until the match is over. But seeing such a large amount of money can make people worried if they choose to wait because the game situation can change suddenly and make them lose. And that makes people who don't want to lose the opportunity to cash it out choose to cash it out. After all, they bet with a small amount of money and now they have seen the results of a lot of money so they think there is no need to be greedy to want bigger results.

But this is the other way of gambling once they put a bet then they will win  for sure they will withdraw it immediately cause they will know that in the world of gambling there's no assurance that once you won your money will be safe but in reality once we won and didn't cash it out then there are many possible outcomes and one of that is to be a losser. But anyways e
Wise gamblers can control and will stop immediately once  they won.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: boty on November 18, 2023, 05:37:34 PM
But this is the other way of gambling once they put a bet then they will win  for sure they will withdraw it immediately cause they will know that in the world of gambling there's no assurance that once you won your money will be safe but in reality once we won and didn't cash it out then there are many possible outcomes and one of that is to be a losser. But anyways e
Wise gamblers can control and will stop immediately once  they won.
Those who place their bets and can win it after that withdraw and enjoy the win I think is better because if they continue to play for bigger wins it is not certain that they will be able to get back even bigger wins, and if we cannot control ourselves in betting What we play will certainly result in a lot of losses from these bets so that we don't leave any money for other needs.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Webetcoins on November 19, 2023, 04:49:10 AM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
I wouldn't call that greed but I would call it confidence. The guy was confident that the side he had chosen would win the game and that's why he didn't want to cash out his bet when the side was ahead, and he had already decided that he was ready to lose the amount if the side he had chosen loses but since it was winning, he didn't want to settle with a lower outcome. I don't see anything wrong in that and I wouldn't call it greed, it's risk and confidence.

A lot of sports bettors wouldn't cash out at such times when they see their team is winning the game already and if there isn't a lot of time left in the game to finish, it's not even that much of a risk because the losing side will barely be able to equalize the game at the last few minutes unless the gambler is extremely unlucky.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Zanab247 on November 19, 2023, 05:05:29 AM
Quote from: benalexis12
Gamblers have their own reasons; to be honest, not all of them are crooks like that. What we have seen is wild or greedy, and we will immediately think of them. In fact, his point is valid; if that is really his reason because he is willing to take the risk, then we don't care about that because it is his choice.

And whatever he does, it's not really us who will be affected, but him, so there's no point in debating or arguing with him. This is just my own view and opinion on what we are talking about here.
Those things are part of gambling, because you need to experience them some times for you to learn a lesson not to make such decision like that when you are winning than to exercise patience to see outcome of the results. Greedy can cause so many things when you are looking for big money to start a business or organize a big party for your Birthday, it can make someone to do such a thing that will make people to think if the person is mad to took such decision because even mad man can do cash out without seeking help from other people.

My own advice to other gamblers, don't be greedy when you get to some point like this in your bet because opportunity comes but once and, if you miss it other people will learn from your mistakes to achieve their goal in the future.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 19, 2023, 06:47:08 AM
Whenever we settle to take any risk in life,  we tend to make it or lose it and for such we have to accept whatever outcome that may come from our taking the risk at some point and much more also check the level of the risk and what we may be faced with if it didn't go our ways,  because the problem with risk is that,  taking risk is not the entire problem,  but having the calculation to take the risk based on that calculation which places us in a better position ns that is what risk should be all about and how it works for us.

But any risk that is taken,  which decisions are based on greed,  emotions and overzealousness is not worth taking at all,  because several times, such risks have led to multiple losses before.
That's why we have to think clearly before making a decision and not rush because a decision made in a hurry could pose a bigger risk that we might miss. By knowing all the problems we face and with calm thinking, we can see the risks of each decision we make. We can also see which decision might be the best of all the existing decisions so that we can reduce the risk.

And if the decision to continue gambling is because we have experienced a lot of losses and it causes our emotions to increase, it will only make it difficult for us to control, which can cause us to experience more losses. So we should rest first before deciding to continue gambling while thinking about what will happen if we experience more and more losses.

But this is the other way of gambling once they put a bet then they will win  for sure they will withdraw it immediately cause they will know that in the world of gambling there's no assurance that once you won your money will be safe but in reality once we won and didn't cash it out then there are many possible outcomes and one of that is to be a losser. But anyways e
Wise gamblers can control and will stop immediately once  they won.
Yes, a wise gambler can definitely control himself and will immediately stop if the situation makes it impossible for him to continue gambling. Placing bets in gambling also requires considering the budget we have, and we also don't need to place bets that are too high if they will only result in a big loss in one round. We should reduce the bet amount to the minimum bet so that the money in our gambling account balance will not immediately decrease a lot and we can also gamble for some time. We must be able to manage our gambling expenses because we are responsible for all the money we deposit for gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on November 19, 2023, 07:21:42 AM
Quote from: benalexis12
Gamblers have their own reasons; to be honest, not all of them are crooks like that. What we have seen is wild or greedy, and we will immediately think of them. In fact, his point is valid; if that is really his reason because he is willing to take the risk, then we don't care about that because it is his choice.

And whatever he does, it's not really us who will be affected, but him, so there's no point in debating or arguing with him. This is just my own view and opinion on what we are talking about here.
Those things are part of gambling, because you need to experience them some times for you to learn a lesson not to make such decision like that when you are winning than to exercise patience to see outcome of the results. Greedy can cause so many things when you are looking for big money to start a business or organize a big party for your Birthday, it can make someone to do such a thing that will make people to think if the person is mad to took such decision because even mad man can do cash out without seeking help from other people.

My own advice to other gamblers, don't be greedy when you get to some point like this in your bet because opportunity comes but once and, if you miss it other people will learn from your mistakes to achieve their goal in the future.
It's true, becoming greedy in betting can leave you completely destitute and greed usually turns a gambler into an addict this is why self-control is most important. Because of greed a person cannot suppress an overwhelming desire within himself actually experiencing withdrawal syndrome on a physical level. He is unable to criticize himself his actions does not control them and cannot reasonably evaluate the environment. Therefore before going crazy consider both the pros and cons better not get greedy and rest once you win.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: peter0425 on November 19, 2023, 07:24:14 AM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
Greed must never be part of gambling activities or even in everything because this is a cancer in our motive and outcome , we will lose instead of gaining because of this attitude.

I once turns as this kind of gambler so I know what is the feeling.


so I promised myself that once given a chance to win again in gambling even 400 dollars? i will automatically withdraw and will go home , care about losing all again like what i did in the past in which my stupidity and addiction.

Hope that the photo owner cashed that out and did not bet even more.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: angrybirdy on November 19, 2023, 11:12:34 AM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
Greed must never be part of gambling activities or even in everything because this is a cancer in our motive and outcome , we will lose instead of gaining because of this attitude.

I once turns as this kind of gambler so I know what is the feeling.


so I promised myself that once given a chance to win again in gambling even 400 dollars? i will automatically withdraw and will go home , care about losing all again like what i did in the past in which my stupidity and addiction.

Hope that the photo owner cashed that out and did not bet even more.
Yup and being greedy shouldn't have tolerated and normalize in the first place, many gamblers blame their actions as being greedy why their winnings turns to losing.
Since this action is one of the top list on how to become a responsible gambler, This should have known by every gambler. Like what you've said, It is the cancer in peoples motive and outcome, So if a person wins and gets in a situation of being torn between keep playing or withdraw their winnings, they must know the answer.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 11:57:12 AM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
Greed must never be part of gambling activities or even in everything because this is a cancer in our motive and outcome , we will lose instead of gaining because of this attitude.

I once turns as this kind of gambler so I know what is the feeling.


so I promised myself that once given a chance to win again in gambling even 400 dollars? i will automatically withdraw and will go home , care about losing all again like what i did in the past in which my stupidity and addiction.

Hope that the photo owner cashed that out and did not bet even more.
Yup and being greedy shouldn't have tolerated and normalize in the first place, many gamblers blame their actions as being greedy why their winnings turns to losing.
Since this action is one of the top list on how to become a responsible gambler, This should have known by every gambler. Like what you've said, It is the cancer in peoples motive and outcome, So if a person wins and gets in a situation of being torn between keep playing or withdraw their winnings, they must know the answer.
The casino is aware of the greed hold on gamblers and that is why some games are designed with aims to attract the greed of the gamblers and in most cases, they fall for that and it tends to affect them a lot of times,  the most cases are trying to either chase consistent winning which is never possible.

Or trying to recover from previous losses which also most times end in tears also since there can never be a guarantee or any form of assurance as to what game is good ng to be the winning game.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on November 19, 2023, 12:26:29 PM
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Yup and being greedy shouldn't have tolerated and normalize in the first place, many gamblers blame their actions as being greedy why their winnings turns to losing.
Since this action is one of the top list on how to become a responsible gambler, This should have known by every gambler. Like what you've said, It is the cancer in peoples motive and outcome, So if a person wins and get's in a situation of being torn between keep playing or withdraw their winnings, they must know the answer.
It is the gambler own fault that he cannot beat anything when he experiences greedy attitude that suddenly appears, he bets to win then when the winning money is already in the balance why should he continue gambling if he is afraid of losing.
He decided to continue gambling after he was able to win and it would be better if they stopped and enjoyed the win, not gambling again until what they had win was completely lost.
I understand that greedy gamblers struggle with risk and that is the risk of losing, but why can't they accept it when they have already decided to be content risking all the risks of gambling.
We are not the ones who determine all the results obtained from gambling, but when we get them it is our decision that can determine whether these results will be enjoyed or even lost again, so we must be able to take the right actions that can be taken when have win.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: slapper on November 19, 2023, 05:26:13 PM
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Yup and being greedy shouldn't have tolerated and normalize in the first place, many gamblers blame their actions as being greedy why their winnings turns to losing.
Since this action is one of the top list on how to become a responsible gambler, This should have known by every gambler. Like what you've said, It is the cancer in peoples motive and outcome, So if a person wins and get's in a situation of being torn between keep playing or withdraw their winnings, they must know the answer.
It is the gambler own fault that he cannot beat anything when he experiences greedy attitude that suddenly appears, he bets to win then when the winning money is already in the balance why should he continue gambling if he is afraid of losing.
He decided to continue gambling after he was able to win and it would be better if they stopped and enjoyed the win, not gambling again until what they had win was completely lost.
I understand that greedy gamblers struggle with risk and that is the risk of losing, but why can't they accept it when they have already decided to be content risking all the risks of gambling.
We are not the ones who determine all the results obtained from gambling, but when we get them it is our decision that can determine whether these results will be enjoyed or even lost again, so we must be able to take the right actions that can be taken when have win.
Your gambling observation reveals human psychology and behavior. I've gambled for years and witnessed the highs and lows. In moderation, where the pleasure doesnt dominate sensible decision-making, gambling can be entertaining. The adrenaline rush, uncertainty, and emotional rollercoaster should be handled calmly. Greed does blurs judgment. The key is self-control. When you win, you want to keep going, but gambling is a game of chance and self-discipline. Setting limits, acknowledging the win, and enjoying the moment rather than wanting more is key.

Risk acceptance in gambling is key to your second argument. Gamblers take and avoid risks. The irony is that they willingly enter an uncertain world but refuse to accept loss. Balancing excitement with possible results is crucial. Making informed decisions, knowing when to stop, and seeing gambling as enjoyment rather than a definite way to win can change the experience. Gambling is about self-awareness and appropriate enjoyment, not just the wager.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 19, 2023, 05:48:14 PM
Greed is something that we have to over come but even at that, greed also have it own advantage just like in this situation where the game end up winning and this shows that the friend already have his mind made up to welcome anything that may come from his risk and was ready to wait to the end of the match and this ended in his favor.
But if i may be the one, I will cash out at that point since the presently available cash out is up to 90% of my expected winning from the 2.70 odds accumulator of the bet, but then this is his call and he has to answer and he is lucky to have won the bet regardless and taking home the 100% winning.
Greed must never be part of gambling activities or even in everything because this is a cancer in our motive and outcome , we will lose instead of gaining because of this attitude.

I once turns as this kind of gambler so I know what is the feeling.


so I promised myself that once given a chance to win again in gambling even 400 dollars? i will automatically withdraw and will go home , care about losing all again like what i did in the past in which my stupidity and addiction.

Hope that the photo owner cashed that out and did not bet even more.
Yup and being greedy shouldn't have tolerated and normalize in the first place, many gamblers blame their actions as being greedy why their winnings turns to losing.
Since this action is one of the top list on how to become a responsible gambler, This should have known by every gambler. Like what you've said, It is the cancer in peoples motive and outcome, So if a person wins and gets in a situation of being torn between keep playing or withdraw their winnings, they must know the answer.
The casino is aware of the greed hold on gamblers and that is why some games are designed with aims to attract the greed of the gamblers and in most cases, they fall for that and it tends to affect them a lot of times,  the most cases are trying to either chase consistent winning which is never possible.

Nothing more because the greed that every gambler brings is the starting point for bigger profits for the casino. Therefore, of course, if more gamblers are greedy, the casino will smile at the sight of a loser who wants to make money by just betting his fate. I think there is a lot of evidence or cases that have occurred that they will experience major financial problems if they gamble with the aim of making money, while the casino system is not designed to  feed them for free because it is clear that the purpose of the casino making this business is for profit, I think from this alone it is clear that the house will always win.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on November 19, 2023, 06:09:21 PM

Nothing more because the greed that every gambler brings is the starting point for bigger profits for the casino. Therefore, of course, if more gamblers are greedy, the casino will smile at the sight of a loser who wants to make money by just betting on his fate. I think there is a lot of evidence or cases that have occurred that they will experience major financial problems if they gamble to make money, while the casino system is not designed to feed them for free because it is clear that the purpose of the casino making this business is for profit, I think from this alone it is clear that the house will always win.


Yeah, more greed equals more losses and if the gambler is not careful enough he will run out of funds to continue playing on other days,  a lot of times we have experienced this in the course of playing and this has taught us a big lesson on how it bad to allow our greed to have high control over our decisions,  much more also we have to make a standing between when to quit or when to take a break regardless what direction we may be heading with the outcome of the bets.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 19, 2023, 09:03:19 PM
Nothing more because the greed that every gambler brings is the starting point for bigger profits for the casino. Therefore, of course, if more gamblers are greedy, the casino will smile at the sight of a loser who wants to make money by just betting his fate. I think there is a lot of evidence or cases that have occurred that they will experience major financial problems if they gamble with the aim of making money, while the casino system is not designed to  feed them for free because it is clear that the purpose of the casino making this business is for profit, I think from this alone it is clear that the house will always win.
For those that may not be convinced, creating a simulation that show us our potential results when we gamble is something that now can be easily done in any spreadsheet software, and if someone does it then they will soon realize how empty and impossible are their dreams of making money when gambling, however most people do not go through this exercise and believe it is actually possible to accomplish this goal, and many of them will pay dearly for that mistake.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 19, 2023, 09:33:05 PM
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
OP, based on what I can deduct from the image you shared(not the cash-out, as that isn't relevant to the image), the gambler took a chance by placing big bets in a single game that he was overly confident he would win. Not by picking so many games in the hopes that his predictions would come true. That's the mistake that a lot of gamblers make. They pick a lot of games and then place small amounts on them in the hopes that all of their picks will be correctly predicted and they will either win large sums of money or have large sums of money that they can choose to withdraw as cash out or not.

Inasmuch to this, the best strategy for gambling is to take a high risk of betting with huge money by choosing a few number of games that you are certain to win rather than playing a large number of games for little money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Josefjix on November 19, 2023, 09:57:18 PM
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
The game ended 2-1 in favour of Real Madrid. A swift win and correct odds, just witness 2x leverage of an initial capital deposited. Yeah, the game enter and the winner went home with straight 2.7 million in any currency he staked. Betting against Barcelona at Camp Nou was kind of a risk which many gamblers was not willing to stake because they were frighten but they forget to understand that the system is filled risks and risking everything you have for a game you're confident about means you're solely in for whatever outcome that comes our.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: goinmerry on November 19, 2023, 11:40:09 PM
The game ended 2-1 in favour of Real Madrid. A swift win and correct odds, just witness 2x leverage of an initial capital deposited. Yeah, the game enter and the winner went home with straight 2.7 million in any currency he staked. Betting against Barcelona at Camp Nou was kind of a risk which many gamblers was not willing to stake because they were frighten but they forget to understand that the system is filled risks and risking everything you have for a game you're confident about means you're solely in for whatever outcome that comes our.

It's not that bettors are frightened to bet against Barcelona but they tend to side with what would be the closest thing that can happen.

Your own analysis and view later about what happened on that bet slip was created because you already know the result.

What if the other way around happened?

That kind of risk is something you can't expect to always happen even how confident we are taking that risk. Still, I will side and rely on the most probable to happen with the help of my own strategy instead of always taking huge odds just because I'm confident to take the risks.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: peter0425 on November 20, 2023, 12:27:25 AM

 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
This is a tough decision if you are already in Lucky day , how could we deny the fact that we can double or even higher that amount ?
sometimes Luck is the one who must be blame , it can be cruel sometime but can be friendly .
we are just easily said thing when we are not the one involved but once it is ours on that shoe , trust me things in decisioning will change specially when we are in the winning streak  so lets do it when we are the one involve but be supportive for others who aer passing the game.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 20, 2023, 12:49:12 AM

Nothing more because the greed that every gambler brings is the starting point for bigger profits for the casino. Therefore, of course, if more gamblers are greedy, the casino will smile at the sight of a loser who wants to make money by just betting on his fate. I think there is a lot of evidence or cases that have occurred that they will experience major financial problems if they gamble to make money, while the casino system is not designed to feed them for free because it is clear that the purpose of the casino making this business is for profit, I think from this alone it is clear that the house will always win.


Yeah, more greed equals more losses and if the gambler is not careful enough he will run out of funds to continue playing on other days,  a lot of times we have experienced this in the course of playing and this has taught us a big lesson on how it bad to allow our greed to have high control over our decisions,  much more also we have to make a standing between when to quit or when to take a break regardless what direction we may be heading with the outcome of the bets.

Of course it is like that, and they have unknowingly lost a lot of money. everything will go wrong if greed has taken over us, by ignoring other things because focusing only on gambling makes emotions when playing and not thinking about the big risks that will be obtained, and at the end which can be sure that you will only get defeat, it makes you upset because of the greed that has made everything go wrong.

Because of what you said, greed makes it difficult for us to stop and when is the time to stop, even just to think about it may not be because it is focused on gambling which makes emotions even higher as a result not thinking about anything else except gambling. It is difficult to find a level of self-awareness because greed and emotions that have mastered so the loss of self-control that makes us go further into gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: arimamib on November 20, 2023, 12:00:38 PM

Risk acceptance in gambling is key to your second argument. Gamblers take and avoid risks. The irony is that they willingly enter an uncertain world but refuse to accept loss. Balancing excitement with possible results is crucial. Making informed decisions, knowing when to stop, and seeing gambling as enjoyment rather than a definite way to win can change the experience. Gambling is about self-awareness and appropriate enjoyment, not just the wager.


Gamblers, by their nature, engage in risk-taking behavior. They enter a world of uncertainty, hoping to reap the rewards of a gainful gamble. the irony lies in their reluctance of accepting loss, which is an inherent part of gambling. The key to a more balanced and enjoyable gambling experience lies in striking a harmonious balance between the excitement of the game and the potential outcomes. This entails making informed decisions, setting clear limits, and approaching gambling not as a guaranteed path to riches but rather as a source of entertainment.

Gambling should be about self-awareness and deriving pleasure from the experience, not solely about the financial gains. By acknowledging the inherent risks involved, exercising self-control, and viewing gambling as a form of leisure rather than a means to an end, people can transform their gambling experience into a more enriching and fulfilling one. it's about finding that sweet spot where the thrill of the game coexists with a healthy acceptance of the possible outcomes.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Weawant on November 20, 2023, 12:55:51 PM
The game ended 2-1 in favour of Real Madrid. A swift win and correct odds, just witness 2x leverage of an initial capital deposited. Yeah, the game enter and the winner went home with straight 2.7 million in any currency he staked. Betting against Barcelona at Camp Nou was kind of a risk which many gamblers was not willing to stake because they were frighten but they forget to understand that the system is filled risks and risking everything you have for a game you're confident about means you're solely in for whatever outcome that comes our.
It was a risky one but then it turned out rewarding and worth the risk, although personally I wouldn't risk that much with such amount because it will definitely get me too emotional and and may affect my mind, I will really be uneasy All trough the game and it's a situation I usually never want to find myself.

Barcelona as at the time of this bet was in their best form an playing from home was seen as even more advantageous to them and so everyone would want to look at the whole thing to have more favor on the side of Barcelona but then just like football will always turn out with its suprises they were in lucky and they lost, personally if I wanted to gamble on that game,no would rather predict on the number of goals than picking any body to win over the other.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: fzkto on November 20, 2023, 04:18:04 PM

Risk acceptance in gambling is key to your second argument. Gamblers take and avoid risks. The irony is that they willingly enter an uncertain world but refuse to accept loss. Balancing excitement with possible results is crucial. Making informed decisions, knowing when to stop, and seeing gambling as enjoyment rather than a definite way to win can change the experience. Gambling is about self-awareness and appropriate enjoyment, not just the wager.


Gamblers, by their nature, engage in risk-taking behavior. They enter a world of uncertainty, hoping to reap the rewards of a gainful gamble. the irony lies in their reluctance of accepting loss, which is an inherent part of gambling. The key to a more balanced and enjoyable gambling experience lies in striking a harmonious balance between the excitement of the game and the potential outcomes. This entails making informed decisions, setting clear limits, and approaching gambling not as a guaranteed path to riches but rather as a source of entertainment.

Gambling should be about self-awareness and deriving pleasure from the experience, not solely about the financial gains. By acknowledging the inherent risks involved, exercising self-control, and viewing gambling as a form of leisure rather than a means to an end, people can transform their gambling experience into a more enriching and fulfilling one. it's about finding that sweet spot where the thrill of the game coexists with a healthy acceptance of the possible outcomes.
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 20, 2023, 05:26:13 PM

For those that may not be convinced, creating a simulation that show us our potential results when we gamble is something that now can be easily done in any spreadsheet software, and if someone does it then they will soon realize how empty and impossible are their dreams of making money when gambling, however most people do not go through this exercise and believe it is actually possible to accomplish this goal, and many of them will pay dearly for that mistake.

The gambler should use of the spreadsheet to store all their win and loss in the gambling sites.Some of the gamblers use the bot for the gambling prediction,but he need to understand the prediction of the gambling was the random one and based on the algorithm in the gambling sites.If they had a chance to find using the bot,the gambler will become the millionaire in few days.So the prediction can't be made using any software or bot in the gambling sites.The gambler who had the software for gambling will not be worked,it's better to do the use of the software for the crypo trading.Because the gambling based on the knowledge and can't be predicted using the software.So the gambler should risk in the gambling sites to make the big win from the gambling sites.It was possible one in the gambling sites.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: noormcs5 on November 20, 2023, 05:40:40 PM
The gambler should use of the spreadsheet to store all their win and loss in the gambling sites.

Using a spreadsheet may be a good idea for those who really want to keep track of their wins and losses, but it can be a hectic task to enter your each win and loss in gambling, on a spreadsheet. Some people may make a lot of bets and may play a lot of games daily using a very small amount of crypto per game, I do not know if this may not be feasible for them to enter each and every win on spreadsheets.


Some of the gamblers use the bot for the gambling prediction,but he need to understand the prediction of the gambling was the random one and based on the algorithm in the gambling sites.

If anyone wants to use bot, it's his choice, but the bot also does not guarantee a win. So think of this in a way, that a gambler doing manual bets may lose but at least he enjoyed the game by betting himself. On the other hand, a gambler using a bot may only lose money and never get the fun while doing the betting.


If they had a chance to find using the bot,the gambler will become the millionaire in few days.So the prediction can't be made using any software or bot in the gambling sites.

Yes, if there is any bot that can program the winnings more than the losing, then every gambler will turn on the bot loops and earn unlimited money. In fact, i think that the ratio of winning through bot gambling is less and hence it is not so popular.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 21, 2023, 04:13:45 PM
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It is very difficult not to do things like that as you say, because generally at least when I was a rookie I always made the mistake of chasing my losses and what I gained was more losses, so in this order of ideas we are the people who are more responsible in every sense for what we do and what we can do later, so sometimes without meaning to but out of mere instinct we seek to correct errors immediately and in a casino we seek to correct or put everything back on the ground of obtaining again winnings to recover what was lost, well that does not apply, because mainly when things are very hard in a casino, people resort to returning to recover what they have lost and that is the main reason in some cases that addiction exists, copsa Which seems a little silly to me because a person who is in a casino must understand how things and the money work there, this is something that can be quite understandable.

When a person enters a casino, they must be clear about what they can do, but they must also understand the fact that the house always wins, that the fact of putting a lot of money in a casino does not guarantee that they have to win because they put in a lot, The casino has its own way of obtaining profits, this is why we are always going to make the difference, each time we go to play we must understand this, apart from making our own plan, the last thing to do is :

1.Have a total balance to lose.

2.- Have an autocontrol, the autocontrol must go from the first moment you register or enter a game and bet responsibly because you are not going to bet everything in a single shot, because it is easier to do without anything.

These are also things that the rest of us should learn, there is no other way , for me it is very important that a person educate themselves before entering a casino, and thus avoid losing money Unnecessarily.

The house always wins, and knowing this is half the battle. You're right about self-control. A plan, loss budget, and clear brain are crucial when entering a casino. Its about gambling psychology, not simply money. The beginner mistake of chasing losses is a common trap. Human nature, yes? We want to correct our mistakes right away to reclaim what we lost. This inclination can be our demise in a casino. Recovery typically increases losses, making it a pseudo-problem. The true issue? Understanding gaming is more important than recovering losses. Before entering a casino, educate yourself. Knowing the chances, risks, and self-control can make all the difference. wise money management includes wise judgments and emotions. Gambling should be fun, not profitable. The true win is keeping things entertaining and within control, right?

That's right , it may be that things are not about how to have fun , because we have as an example something very clear and it is When we are giving everything to be able to have a good time, that is, if we decide to enter a casino just to have fun Well, that is what Should be considered, but if you do not want to go for this, you can see that it is not the right thing to do because if someone is looking to win with a casino, it is noticeable but it is not like Taking it as income, the fact that Let's know about the advantage of this, which is what can give us an advantage to be able to play , because we cannot have any illusions that we are going to win because of this, no, this has to be considered always and when we have a fair budget to play and to be willing to lose , for me that is the premise, there is no other way, I believe that everything must happen under the Scheme of Doing things well , that is why it is always necessary for us as Players to have our feet firmly Planted on the Ground.

In the case that we are giving a lot of money to be in a Casino, I will always say, well if we have 100usd to play and cat without anything affecting us, then those 100USD at least for me is a lot of money, and well I consider that the Things must be done with great Caution , not because we can spend them because we have to spend them like crazy, we have to play an intelligent game to be able to have the option of generating more fun and a better experience , in this order of Ideas we must do everything necessary In order to take care of our money, it is always Necessary to do a very good performance so that the casino managers feel pleased with doing a better job. Personally, I always like to play darts, and Roulette , and also poker , I focus on those. games I always seek to win and even though roulette is merely random and take everything to the level of luck, then I try to find profits, for that it is necessary to always Establish my limits and therefore it is Necessary to do all these types of things to avoid having Bad Times .



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dezoel on November 21, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Inasmuch to this, the best strategy for gambling is to take a high risk of betting with huge money by choosing a few number of games that you are certain to win rather than playing a large number of games for little money.
I disagree with that point of yours. I believe that a person who chooses more games to spread the amount they are willing to bet gives the person more opportunities to evaluate their process or progress and work on their techniques of research and analyzing the teams and players so that they can improve their predictions for the future games instead of choosing a single game and putting all their bankroll at stake and if that game is lost, they will have nothing left behind to try again with more preparation next time.

So, if I were to spend $500 on my sports betting activities, I would spend $50 on each game instead of going all in on a single game. I would, of course, prepare for each match before placing my bet and won't take it easy just because my bet is small and make sure that I do enough research and know enough to be confident about my choices.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wakate on November 22, 2023, 09:42:14 PM

 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
This is a tough decision if you are already in Lucky day , how could we deny the fact that we can double or even higher that amount ?
sometimes Luck is the one who must be blame , it can be cruel sometime but can be friendly .
we are just easily said thing when we are not the one involved but once it is ours on that shoe , trust me things in decisioning will change specially when we are in the winning streak  so lets do it when we are the one involve but be supportive for others who aer passing the game.
This is a big risk for me and the amount staked does not even worth the winning in which ever way. This is not how to gamble for me since the amount is extravagantly too high for anyone to stake juts to winning 2.5×. It doesn't worth it at all and we need to bet on games with small amount stake to win big amount. That is how to bet not taking too much risk just to win this kind of amount. The risk to reward ratio is too high and this alone can make a gamble to have a consequential bad day if the outcome turns negative.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 23, 2023, 03:14:23 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Your decision to cash out is based on economic factor from what I can predict. It is not based on greed or risk. At that point in time you are choosing to do what is best for you. There is no right or wrong motive here. The decision we take here will be based on our economic and financial situations.

Who knows what how much $865 would go in solving a need for you. So no shame in it. And if anyone says its greed accept it cash out. Maybe use 20% out of it for your next bet.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 23, 2023, 03:45:14 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Your decision to cash out is based on economic factor from what I can predict. It is not based on greed or risk. At that point in time you are choosing to do what is best for you. There is no right or wrong motive here. The decision we take here will be based on our economic and financial situations.

Who knows what how much $865 would go in solving a need for you. So no shame in it. And if anyone says its greed accept it cash out. Maybe use 20% out of it for your next bet.
I completely agree with you, there is a thin line between being greedy and managing risk, this I believe is the reason why some gamblers tend to confuse the two.

If anything, I did say that being greedy in gambling is actually a normal thing, as long as the gambler is able to control him or her self in such a manner it does not negatively affect them in terms of money management, self control, knowing and keeping to set limits and so on. I say this because, gambling casinos themselves are as greedy af for our money, this is why they usually do not hesitate to confiscate a gamblers winning or money at any slight mistake from the gambler.
So for me, It not wrong if a gambler seize every opportunity made available to him or her, to make profit for him or her self, this is not greed, but more like risk management, knowing when to exit a bet to secure profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Frankolala on November 23, 2023, 04:04:44 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Your decision to cash out is based on economic factor from what I can predict. It is not based on greed or risk. At that point in time you are choosing to do what is best for you. There is no right or wrong motive here. The decision we take here will be based on our economic and financial situations.

Who knows what how much $865 would go in solving a need for you. So no shame in it. And if anyone says its greed accept it cash out. Maybe use 20% out of it for your next bet.
I completely agree with you, there is a thin line between being greedy and managing risk, this I believe is the reason why some gamblers tend to confuse the two.

If anything, I did say that being greedy in gambling is actually a normal thing, as long as the gambler is able to control him or her self in such a manner it does not negatively affect them in terms of money management, self control, knowing and keeping to set limits and so on. I say this because, gambling casinos themselves are as greedy af for our money, this is why they usually do not hesitate to confiscate a gamblers winning or money at any slight mistake from the gambler.
So for me, It not wrong if a gambler seize every opportunity made available to him or her, to make profit for him or her self, this is not greed, but more like risk management, knowing when to exit a bet to secure profit.
You should also look at it from this side that if a gambler is greedy, he might get carried away with his greedy nature and when he is winning, he will think that he can continue winning and wouldn't stop at the right time that he is suppose to stop gambling because he feels that he is on his lucky day, which might turn around and he will loss big because he couldn't know that his luck has expired.

Also greed can make a gambler to continue chasing his losses thinking and hoping that he will win the next game. Greed is something that shouldn't allow it to control our gambling activities, when we are gambling because it will bring more of harm than good to us. I am not sayin that I don't understand your point but most gamblers can control their greedy nature and it is such gamblers that thinks that gambling is to make profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 23, 2023, 05:53:17 PM
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.

Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

This can be greed but at last I think gambling become a compelling activity because there is no other option with gambler to earn and he is also not supported by his family so if he continues gambling then his borrowed money will be increases and if he leave gambling then how he will earn and return his borrowed money therefore in such way gambling become an addiction.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 23, 2023, 06:41:57 PM

Gamblers, by their nature, engage in risk-taking behavior. They enter a world of uncertainty, hoping to reap the rewards of a gainful gamble. the irony lies in their reluctance of accepting loss, which is an inherent part of gambling. The key to a more balanced and enjoyable gambling experience lies in striking a harmonious balance between the excitement of the game and the potential outcomes. This entails making informed decisions, setting clear limits, and approaching gambling not as a guaranteed path to riches but rather as a source of entertainment.

Gambling should be about self-awareness and deriving pleasure from the experience, not solely about the financial gains. By acknowledging the inherent risks involved, exercising self-control, and viewing gambling as a form of leisure rather than a means to an end, people can transform their gambling experience into a more enriching and fulfilling one. it's about finding that sweet spot where the thrill of the game coexists with a healthy acceptance of the possible outcomes.
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.

Gamblers who realize that gambling is nothing more than a lucky activity then they will gamble with the intention of seeking entertainment or fun only, I agree to that statement but on the other hand it is always undeniable and not always possible that you will always be able to apply such a mindset, as you said that gambling is very much tied to human psychology, I think there will always be some points that can make you quite upset, and after that your psychology will start to be disturbed, even though you come with a healthy mindset, it doesn't mean that you don't have the potential to have desires like gambling addicts.

Winning and losing is the final answer that is certain but usually will lose more often than winning because your losses are profits for the casino, if you continue to play and without any restrictions even though your goal is for entertainment but on the other hand believe me that it is very likely that you will start to enter the addiction phase without you realizing it. After that, it's not about fun but you gamble with the intention of recovering losses. Therefore, there is nothing better than not touching gambling at all, or stopping before it's too late.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 23, 2023, 08:49:27 PM
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.

Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

This can be greed but at last I think gambling become a compelling activity because there is no other option with gambler to earn and he is also not supported by his family so if he continues gambling then his borrowed money will be increases and if he leave gambling then how he will earn and return his borrowed money therefore in such way gambling become an addiction.
I have always thought that one of the worst things that can happen to a newbie is to actually obtain some level of early success when they gamble, because then they may begin to wonder if they can actually gamble not for the fun they could get out of those games, but instead they will consider gambling for profits, and since they do not have the knowledge or the skills to do this then whatever profits they got will soon disappear, and then their capital will follow.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Ever-young on November 23, 2023, 09:31:02 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
But where's the Cash out value on the photo you posted, all I see there is the amount used in staking the game and the potential win... If there's a cash out there I can't see it. We all know that gambling is all about risk and we all know about the popular saying no risk no reward. There are people who are willing to take those huge risks and there are people who cannot take that much risk. That's why we have different types of gamblers with different gambling limits they get for themselves. There are people that can lose 10 million in just a twinkle of an eye and it still wouldn't affect them and you can be rest assured that these people when they also win, your wins are also very massive. For me I prefer to take this kind of risk, picking a single game or two that you're pretty certain will come through, stake it with a huge sum and make at least x2 or x3 rather than picking over 10 to 50 games in just one slip/ticket and then expect a miracle to occur all of a sudden.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Iroh on November 23, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

Yeah, a lot of people start out playing innocently and for fun but when they start down on the path of winning, they feel luckily enough to continue playing believing in themselves they would always win.
It’s def impossible to have a gambler win all the time and in this case of having played for a while and winning, that would motivate anyone to continue playing and by then, the fun isn’t there anymore as the player is just now playing to see how much he could win. This is when losses would start to happen and if you’re someone with no discipline on how he spends his money, that person would likely spend money trying to chase his losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: 348Judah on November 23, 2023, 10:01:24 PM
Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

Yeah, a lot of people start out playing innocently and for fun but when they start down on the path of winning, they feel luckily enough to continue playing believing in themselves they would always win.
It’s def impossible to have a gambler win all the time and in this case of having played for a while and winning, that would motivate anyone to continue playing and by then, the fun isn’t there anymore as the player is just now playing to see how much he could win. This is when losses would start to happen and if you’re someone with no discipline on how he spends his money, that person would likely spend money trying to chase his losses.

This is nothing than the greed aspects of our lives trying to manifest at some particular point or stages we get into, sometimes we ma also not know that we have this kind of greedy nature from the way we appear not until we are found for its test of time, we take in some level of risk because we are this greer to see that everything is being achieved by us at all costs not minding the consequences that might follows through our greedy desires.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Weawant on November 23, 2023, 10:46:43 PM
This is nothing than the greed aspects of our lives trying to manifest at some particular point or stages we get into, sometimes we ma also not know that we have this kind of greedy nature from the way we appear not until we are found for its test of time, we take in some level of risk because we are this greer to see that everything is being achieved by us at all costs not minding the consequences that might follows through our greedy desires.
Sometimes we mistaken people's principle for greed in cases as this, most persons have their preference up on which they keep their principles to make choices, personally I don't just cash out except it UpTo a certain amount bor percentage of my initial capital as the case may be.

Someone else could come see such Cash out and seeing me refusing to accept it may think I'm greedy or not appreciative enough but then it's all risk and for me to to want to cash out at that point it simply means I'm in for any risk that comes there after but most persons fail to understand stand this and call it greed, which in some cases is actually not one turns greedy only when they have won and wants to double up on a second trial.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: letteredhub on November 23, 2023, 10:47:44 PM
Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

Yeah, a lot of people start out playing innocently and for fun but when they start down on the path of winning, they feel luckily enough to continue playing believing in themselves they would always win.
It’s def impossible to have a gambler win all the time and in this case of having played for a while and winning, that would motivate anyone to continue playing and by then, the fun isn’t there anymore as the player is just now playing to see how much he could win. This is when losses would start to happen and if you’re someone with no discipline on how he spends his money, that person would likely spend money trying to chase his losses.
when you haven't won before to experience the sweetness of  gambling money you won't you be be desperately conscious with that desire to quickly get another win again. The temptation to chase losses began when you have had a taste of how winning tastes like and within you you wanna sustain that winning streaks which is not possible, and that's how greed comes in that if you are not careful with how you conduct yourself you'll start playing without control believing that it's from excessive plays that another winning will be made. I'll say this, winning money in gambling should motivate us in enjoying the game instead of getting greedy at it, it distract us from the fun when we get greedy.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: bettercrypto on November 23, 2023, 10:57:58 PM
At first, every gambler starts to play for fun or just because he likes the process of playing. But all gambling is built on human psychology. Therefore, very often a person becomes addicted to gambling. After that there is greed and a person seeks to get the winnings and not just play for fun.

Yes everyone wants to play for fun and when they earn for the first time then they thought appears in their mind that they are lucky and they will win always. But it is impossible that a gambler win all the time without losing any amount so those who initiate gambling as a fun will eventually become a permanent participant of gambling.

This can be greed but at last I think gambling become a compelling activity because there is no other option with gambler to earn and he is also not supported by his family so if he continues gambling then his borrowed money will be increases and if he leave gambling then how he will earn and return his borrowed money therefore in such way gambling become an addiction.
I have always thought that one of the worst things that can happen to a newbie is to actually obtain some level of early success when they gamble, because then they may begin to wonder if they can actually gamble not for the fun they could get out of those games, but instead they will consider gambling for profits, and since they do not have the knowledge or the skills to do this then whatever profits they got will soon disappear, and then their capital will follow.

Oh, when the gambler's mindset is like that, there is an immediate greed that settles in his personality. And that's not a good start for a gambler in a casino. It's hard to get out when it starts like that.

There is no room for negative things; positive things will always be seen, even if the method he is using when he starts gambling is no longer correct.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: lionheart78 on November 23, 2023, 11:09:35 PM
I have always thought that one of the worst things that can happen to a newbie is to actually obtain some level of early success when they gamble, because then they may begin to wonder if they can actually gamble not for the fun they could get out of those games, but instead they will consider gambling for profits, and since they do not have the knowledge or the skills to do this then whatever profits they got will soon disappear, and then their capital will follow.

Not only newbies, but also old-timers.  This kind of success in gambling triggers overconfidence which affected even seasone gamblers.  So all gambler must be wary of this kind of mindset, that they are invincible with their strategy, and end up losing everything.


Oh, when the gambler's mindset is like that, there is an immediate greed that settles in his personality. And that's not a good start for a gambler in a casino. It's hard to get out when it starts like that.

There is no room for negative things; positive things will always be seen, even if the method he is using when he starts gambling is no longer correct.


Greed is never been a good thing since it portrays excessive wanting which is negative in all aspects.  Not actually no room, I think gambler always has this hesitation but due to being greedy, they do it anyway, continuously betting to get a huge win even though they are already winning.  That is bad because it can easily deplete his bankroll if luck decides to part way.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: peter0425 on November 25, 2023, 01:57:58 AM

 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
This is a tough decision if you are already in Lucky day , how could we deny the fact that we can double or even higher that amount ?
sometimes Luck is the one who must be blame , it can be cruel sometime but can be friendly .
we are just easily said thing when we are not the one involved but once it is ours on that shoe , trust me things in decisioning will change specially when we are in the winning streak  so lets do it when we are the one involve but be supportive for others who aer passing the game.
This is a big risk for me and the amount staked does not even worth the winning in which ever way. This is not how to gamble for me since the amount is extravagantly too high for anyone to stake juts to winning 2.5×. It doesn't worth it at all and we need to bet on games with small amount stake to win big amount. That is how to bet not taking too much risk just to win this kind of amount. The risk to reward ratio is too high and this alone can make a gamble to have a consequential bad day if the outcome turns negative.
but the part of which the account react isn't revealed meaning we are all blinded to what really happened if it was withdrawn or being continued betting.

but yes this means too greedy to tell if it was being betted not unless the owner is really winning and that amount was just part of His lucky wins so yes he can just bend the bet over.

small rollers like us is contented with x5 wins so what more this one that has really a huge amount of winning.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 25, 2023, 07:24:01 PM

For those that may not be convinced, creating a simulation that show us our potential results when we gamble is something that now can be easily done in any spreadsheet software, and if someone does it then they will soon realize how empty and impossible are their dreams of making money when gambling, however most people do not go through this exercise and believe it is actually possible to accomplish this goal, and many of them will pay dearly for that mistake.

The gambler should use of the spreadsheet to store all their win and loss in the gambling sites.Some of the gamblers use the bot for the gambling prediction,but he need to understand the prediction of the gambling was the random one and based on the algorithm in the gambling sites.If they had a chance to find using the bot,the gambler will become the millionaire in few days.So the prediction can't be made using any software or bot in the gambling sites.The gambler who had the software for gambling will not be worked,it's better to do the use of the software for the crypo trading.Because the gambling based on the knowledge and can't be predicted using the software.So the gambler should risk in the gambling sites to make the big win from the gambling sites.It was possible one in the gambling sites.

This is very interesting, recreating the events through a simulation is not bad, but in part it is not my style, I prefer to make my predictions without using bots, spreadsheets, plus I am a very lazy person, I like to do I do things for myself and well without much, in what I consider to be like that, is because I like to do things with quality, so that later I don't have to repeat and study more than I should, but rather do it only once and well. , that's why the cuetines when it comes to making sports bets and everything related to it is easier to see from the point of view that the one who knows the most is the one who has the most proabldaibdes of winning, in the casio delf ´tubol Because I always like to use soccer as an example since it is my favorite sport, I always make my prediction, at least saying who wins or who doesn't win, marking is something more difficult to do, however one tries to do it, So when we are in that process, I don't trust doing it with a robot or simulation.

The simulations and bots can be used for other types of games, perhaps the games of some casino, poker, black jack something like that, but I think that for the demoportes not, unless it is a super AI that is updating every second of the game. troubles that happen in the world, even so I don't see it very well, in your case a person can be emphatic with their greed, avarice that for me is just the most, but it should be noted that it is something very interesting because technology is used to do all kinds of things, currently things that have to do with bets, with predictive bets are using all possible tools to help themselves, but prediction tools are something that can vary a lot because you can have the best predictor, but the best Predictor is based only on the things that can be generated, that's fine, but the luck factor? Where is that?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 26, 2023, 09:05:16 PM
I have always thought that one of the worst things that can happen to a newbie is to actually obtain some level of early success when they gamble, because then they may begin to wonder if they can actually gamble not for the fun they could get out of those games, but instead they will consider gambling for profits, and since they do not have the knowledge or the skills to do this then whatever profits they got will soon disappear, and then their capital will follow.

Oh, when the gambler's mindset is like that, there is an immediate greed that settles in his personality. And that's not a good start for a gambler in a casino. It's hard to get out when it starts like that.

There is no room for negative things; positive things will always be seen, even if the method he is using when he starts gambling is no longer correct.

Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: erep on November 26, 2023, 09:53:48 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: n00ber on November 26, 2023, 11:23:50 PM
Risks always wait for greedy people. Lucky people, if they are greedy, cannot avoid the risks that await them. When losing at gambling, everyone will want to add more capital to get back the money they lost. And even those who have won also want their account to continue multiplying. At that time, their minds were no longer alert enough to continue gambling. But they still engage in gambling. Of course, it is difficult for anyone to always win in gambling. Luck cannot come to them continuously. Greed in gambling is the path that leads them to heavy losses.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 26, 2023, 11:30:09 PM
Risks always wait for greedy people. Lucky people, if they are greedy, cannot avoid the risks that await them. When losing at gambling, everyone will want to add more capital to get back the money they lost. And even those who have won also want their account to continue multiplying. At that time, their minds were no longer alert enough to continue gambling. But they still engage in gambling. Of course, it is difficult for anyone to always win in gambling. Luck cannot come to them continuously. Greed in gambling is the path that leads them to heavy losses.

The greedy people always take the risk in the gambling game.Some of the times they will achieve the biggest record which can't achieved by the ordinary gamblers.But sometimes they will loss the entire game and loss the capital invested to the gambling.So the gambler need to wait for the better option,if the gambler not ready to take the risk in the gambling sites,it was the significant one for the gambler with the margin win like 10 dollars from the usage of 100 dollars.Honestly it was the good return for the gambler with the ten percentage as the profit.At this time the gambler use the risk option with the remaining 100 dollars and withdrew the profit of 10 dollars.So the risk was the risk and it may leads to the complete loss of 100 dollars.If he withdrew the 110 dollars,he may end up with the profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Exotic5 on November 27, 2023, 12:30:35 AM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg
At the end of the day it depends on the person and his faith in whatever game that is played and in this situation this person definitely has that money to spare, plus he is confident that the game is going to come through. I am the kind of person that will cashout immediately i see a tangible profit because from experience i have been in such position and thinking the game will e a success, it failed in  the last minute. not everybody is lucky enough to see a huge cash out and it come through so to me it depends on the confidence level, if i feel confident enough not to cash out i leave the game until it is completed, but if i dont i take my profit and go.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dansus021 on November 27, 2023, 02:57:42 AM
Barcelona Vs Real Madrid both are great teams. He wins and multiplies by 2 he just shows off when he puts in the story dont take it personally. Just tell him to not greedy when you already said already, your responsibility as a friend is done. Greed is a crazy thing never play with it. I just bet when he lose he never share it to Whatsapp story  ;D


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 27, 2023, 04:24:18 AM
Risks always wait for greedy people. Lucky people, if they are greedy, cannot avoid the risks that await them. When losing at gambling, everyone will want to add more capital to get back the money they lost. And even those who have won also want their account to continue multiplying. At that time, their minds were no longer alert enough to continue gambling. But they still engage in gambling. Of course, it is difficult for anyone to always win in gambling. Luck cannot come to them continuously. Greed in gambling is the path that leads them to heavy losses.

The greedy people always take the risk in the gambling game.Some of the times they will achieve the biggest record which can't achieved by the ordinary gamblers.But sometimes they will loss the entire game and loss the capital invested to the gambling.So the gambler need to wait for the better option,if the gambler not ready to take the risk in the gambling sites,it was the significant one for the gambler with the margin win like 10 dollars from the usage of 100 dollars.Honestly it was the good return for the gambler with the ten percentage as the profit.At this time the gambler use the risk option with the remaining 100 dollars and withdrew the profit of 10 dollars.So the risk was the risk and it may leads to the complete loss of 100 dollars.If he withdrew the 110 dollars,he may end up with the profit.

I totally agree with you, I couldn't say if I'm red or green right now, but I know that my game has improved a lot, there are days when I do well, but there are days when I don't. I don't do it well, I think that's the case. It is normal in casinos and in games of chance because many of us know that losing in a casino is not something abnormal, and it is something that may be the most normal thing in the world, that in all casinos there is always an opportunity to win, and that When we win we must take advantage of that stroke of luck to enjoy, take out that money and buy the things we like, but we have to feel that it is money, not throw it at the casino to risk it again. I think there are many players who keep the money in their accounts and what they achieve is that it is spent in its entirety, that is why I will always recommend that in all savings of a Player, if not if it is good, then he knows it, that he enjoys that money with his Family, that he buys the things that you like, because those periods of happiness are what we as Humans must give ourselves.

Many people want to win a lot of money, and that one-time greed that happens overnight is very difficult, it is almost impossible for it to happen, especially in a casino. Things in a casino can be very difficult. achieve, because we all know that things can happen for better or worse depending on our luck, unless sports bets are made, which is what we normally have more options to win thanks to what we can do together with our wisdom , believe. We believe that in sports betting more importance should be given to what we trust and what we should trust, it is like in trading, everything related to the concoimento should be recommended, if there is no concoiemtio and it is difficult to do so in a sports bet Things only happen by luck, although there are things that are Extraordinary and happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on November 27, 2023, 05:04:47 AM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.
I agree with you that beginner gamblers usually don't think too much about risk because what they prioritize is big profits like other gamblers who can double their money easily. Beginners don't yet know clearly that the risk of gambling is very big. If we can't control it, then we will get worse. experience increasing losses, novice gamblers must learn to control themselves so as not to speculate excessively in gambling, they must always be reminded not to continuously make deposits just to complete their gambling in the hope of making a profit, this can trigger a gambling addiction and beginners are more likely to easy to be tempted about gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: michellee on November 27, 2023, 06:07:39 AM
At the end of the day it depends on the person and his faith in whatever game that is played and in this situation this person definitely has that money to spare, plus he is confident that the game is going to come through. I am the kind of person that will cashout immediately i see a tangible profit because from experience i have been in such position and thinking the game will e a success, it failed in  the last minute. not everybody is lucky enough to see a huge cash out and it come through so to me it depends on the confidence level, if i feel confident enough not to cash out i leave the game until it is completed, but if i dont i take my profit and go.
If I were in the same situation, I would also cash out without waiting long. I don't know whether it will be a win for his team at the end of the match or if his team will lose. Instead of waiting until the end of the game, maybe cashing out would be better.

But it depends on each person because there are people who still feel confident in their analysis and want to wait until the end of the match. They feel it is better to wait until the match is over so they can get a big win. Well, that's okay too because each person has their own considerations.

What you have to remember is don't be greedy in expecting big wins, especially if we are not sure about the final result of the match.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: EluguHcman on November 27, 2023, 06:50:35 AM
In the First place you should you were expected to be certain who played the game. I don't think it would be necessary of your friend would claim to had played a game he never played all to gain influence of a risky gambler on you or what?
I expected you to talk about if the gammer won the bet or not instead you ended up saying "if you were the one you would had cashed out".
However, whoever you agued with about the game is right.
In the first place it is being risky in investing on gambling because it has you no assurance of winning.
Okay let's say you gambled on a chance-based gambling aside the skill-based gambling that you may be some Little sure trusting your skills, you are then apparently 99.99% sure on a risky play because you don't know how the system is programed or what the nature of the game may posseses at its end.

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.
Well. This is depends on my net worth so if that of your friend maybe worthy enough and looses the game, the $1M may be seen as a mere $1K worth loosing to him and not me who feels the wraths at when I looses $50 in a casino.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: arimamib on November 27, 2023, 01:19:27 PM
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At the end of the day it depends on the person and his faith in whatever game that is played and in this situation this person definitely has that money to spare, plus he is confident that the game is going to come through. I am the kind of person that will cashout immediately i see a tangible profit because from experience i have been in such position and thinking the game will e a success, it failed in  the last minute. not everybody is lucky enough to see a huge cash out and it come through so to me it depends on the confidence level, if i feel confident enough not to cash out i leave the game until it is completed, but if i dont i take my profit and go.
I always think that gamblers are people who have enough time and money to spare, so then they can decide whatever they want with their money. Gamblers who don't bother to cash-out when they gain big are gamblers who know to enjoy the feeling of winning while they are still there at casino. I think this how gamblers should be, the gamblers who have risk tolerance.

Gamblers who see gambling as a moment for fun is a true gambler. they are not necessitated to make decisions based on money spent or gained. but then, reality is not always how it should be. Gamblers who have enough money to spare also can be depressed because of the losses. so..
pick your poison..


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on November 28, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
I have always thought that one of the worst things that can happen to a newbie is to actually obtain some level of early success when they gamble, because then they may begin to wonder if they can actually gamble not for the fun they could get out of those games, but instead they will consider gambling for profits, and since they do not have the knowledge or the skills to do this then whatever profits they got will soon disappear, and then their capital will follow.

Oh, when the gambler's mindset is like that, there is an immediate greed that settles in his personality. And that's not a good start for a gambler in a casino. It's hard to get out when it starts like that.

There is no room for negative things; positive things will always be seen, even if the method he is using when he starts gambling is no longer correct.

Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.

Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: redsun114 on November 28, 2023, 12:42:59 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.

So, knowledge might make someone responsible and make them understand the proper ways they can use for gambling but it cannot make them not get greedy when they win a certain amount but want to have or win more than that, that's a natural feeling that the mind of a person brings out at such moments.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 30, 2023, 02:13:26 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.

So, knowledge might make someone responsible and make them understand the proper ways they can use for gambling but it cannot make them not get greedy when they win a certain amount but want to have or win more than that, that's a natural feeling that the mind of a person brings out at such moments.

Speaking of knowledge, there is no way to combine this knowledge, of the best way to play and win money knowingly, but it is very simple , it is Through defensive Betting where I think you have more options to win, because it is the simplest way that you have to use what you get to make us earn money, of course this involves many actions, such as posting earrings on our social networks, TV, everything that involves generating information or knowing information about the sport under which we are going to bet, where it is obvious that we cannot bet as a very strong lie, we have to know how to do it, because in this way , Sports can also lose a lot of money and at all Costs that is what we We must avoid it, for that reason is that sometimes we must be very aware of the money we must spend in bets, not because we think it is profitable, our greed will not lead to the path where we bet a lot, because if we bet and lose it , as will we do to recover ? In all bets , it is not Recommended.

Sports betting for me is like another Opportunity to do things better, but with compromises, now if we start making sports bets just appealing to luck, so let it be said that I think this one is better or that one without any type of theoretical basis or a basmoento that has a clear argument, because even though it may have the possibility of Winning , it is not good to risk that, because you can lose a lot of money, in the case of sports plans, I would not Attribute everything to luck , because It is not like that, to the degree of wisdom, unless in the sport that is settled and something very extraordinary happens and everything is lost, only by a very lucky and Extraordinary event it happens, but it is a case that little happens, it is not common, but it is still a Possibility, and possibilities cannot be ruled out when one enters the plane of Money, Where much care must be Taken.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on November 30, 2023, 02:37:47 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.

So, knowledge might make someone responsible and make them understand the proper ways they can use for gambling but it cannot make them not get greedy when they win a certain amount but want to have or win more than that, that's a natural feeling that the mind of a person brings out at such moments.
I don’t know for sure, but it seems to me that 50% of greed is formed at the very beginning and it can no longer be changed. The remaining 50% depends on the examples of people’s attitudes towards greed that surround us, as well as situations in the course of our lives, moreover, they can change in one direction or another. Therefore, we can always change our attitude towards greed a little, and this is done thanks to our intelligence and development. I used to be more greedy, but now I don't let this feeling take over me and many other feelings. I had a rethinking of values thanks to trading and investing. Now I always try, as much as possible, to exercise control over my mind and not give in to feelings such as greed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on November 30, 2023, 03:27:48 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.

Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.



There is no such thing as being stagnant in winnings from gambling, but what is more likely and what is in  accordance with the facts is that you will only suffer many losses if you continue to apply a selfish mindset by always wanting to hold on to moments that can make you smile.

In reality not everyone can accept the true fact that only luck can make them achieve the results they want or a little better, to be honest I'm not sure if there are some of them who can be  good friends with greed, as usual that not everyone can control it and what exists is that greed will always be an early indication of the next step/result which is much worse.

Instead of getting a much bigger win, the fact that happens is that you lose everything you got at the start, that is strong evidence and everyone has experienced it and that is why we should not behave  greedily in gambling activities, it doesn't matter if you are. want to implement it as long as you have to be prepared for all the bad impacts that will definitely occur.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on November 30, 2023, 03:45:36 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.

Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.



There is no such thing as being stagnant in winnings from gambling, but what is more likely and what is in  accordance with the facts is that you will only suffer many losses if you continue to apply a selfish mindset by always wanting to hold on to moments that can make you smile.

In reality not everyone can accept the true fact that only luck can make them achieve the results they want or a little better, to be honest I'm not sure if there are some of them who can be  good friends with greed, as usual that not everyone can control it and what exists is that greed will always be an early indication of the next step/result which is much worse.

Instead of getting a much bigger win, the fact that happens is that you lose everything you got at the start, that is strong evidence and everyone has experienced it and that is why we should not behave  greedily in gambling activities, it doesn't matter if you are. want to implement it as long as you have to be prepared for all the bad impacts that will definitely occur.



Yeah right, there's only a small chance of making something good when you are gambling and most of the time, that greed inside you
will keep you trying everything to win a lot.

But the reality behind that greed is it will just drown you out and make you feel that you can take more instead of enjoying a little win.

It's your understanding of how to balance or weigh in with your decision making, the better you understand greed the higher
the chance you may be able to control it.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on November 30, 2023, 04:23:28 PM

The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.

So, knowledge might make someone responsible and make them understand the proper ways they can use for gambling but it cannot make them not get greedy when they win a certain amount but want to have or win more than that, that's a natural feeling that the mind of a person brings out at such moments.

It's more about good planning and preparation, basically they can get knowledge from various sources or it can be from the experience of others who are good and they can emulate that way in order to stay safe in their gambling involvement, all gamblers can do that as long as they are willing to apply it for their good too, And for the problem of greed, yes I totally agree with you, your statement makes sense that indeed greed has been in humans since they were born and before knowing what gambling is. It's more about their background and nature, basically a person's personality is different, maybe we already know that there are some people who have unusual personalities, such as sensitive, easily provoked and also easily provoked and another thing is greed as you said.

About whether they will be greedy or not in everything, it really cannot be predicted from the start because the role of greed will really occur when someone is in a certain situation that usually makes them quite happy, such as getting a win, then that's where they will think and assume that "it looks like I can get more than this" and that's where greed starts, unconsciously they will forget all the real facts because they have been carried away by the situation.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on November 30, 2023, 04:36:21 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.

Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.



There is no such thing as being stagnant in winnings from gambling, but what is more likely and what is in  accordance with the facts is that you will only suffer many losses if you continue to apply a selfish mindset by always wanting to hold on to moments that can make you smile.

In reality not everyone can accept the true fact that only luck can make them achieve the results they want or a little better, to be honest I'm not sure if there are some of them who can be  good friends with greed, as usual that not everyone can control it and what exists is that greed will always be an early indication of the next step/result which is much worse.

Instead of getting a much bigger win, the fact that happens is that you lose everything you got at the start, that is strong evidence and everyone has experienced it and that is why we should not behave  greedily in gambling activities, it doesn't matter if you are. want to implement it as long as you have to be prepared for all the bad impacts that will definitely occur.


Yes, gambling is unpredictable, thus the idea of consistent gains is a myth. The "selfish mindset" you suggest goes beyond short-term enjoyment. The gambler is lulled by the illusion of control. This needs further analysis. Is it luck or skill? Although certain games offer strategy, the odds are always in favor of the casino. It's interesting to think about the idea of "being good friends with greed". In gambling, greed is insatiable and generally leads to failure. In gambling's fleeting environment, losses are inevitable. Your advice against greed is a profound assessment of human fragility in uncertain times. Gambling requires a clear head and knowledge of its risks. It can be entertaining, but one must consider the repercussions.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on November 30, 2023, 09:22:19 PM
I don’t know for sure, but it seems to me that 50% of greed is formed at the very beginning and it can no longer be changed. The remaining 50% depends on the examples of people’s attitudes towards greed that surround us, as well as situations in the course of our lives, moreover, they can change in one direction or another. Therefore, we can always change our attitude towards greed a little, and this is done thanks to our intelligence and development. I used to be more greedy, but now I don't let this feeling take over me and many other feelings. I had a rethinking of values thanks to trading and investing. Now I always try, as much as possible, to exercise control over my mind and not give in to feelings such as greed.
Holding some greed on your mind is nothing to be ashamed of, as everyone regardless of how much they have already will wish to have a little bit more than what they have already, however it is when that feeling gets out of control when it can cause huge problems, as in their desire to obtain more than what they have, those people may take risks that are too high, and if at the time luck is not on their side it will not be rare that they lost everything before they realized what it actually happened.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on November 30, 2023, 09:44:10 PM
I don’t know for sure, but it seems to me that 50% of greed is formed at the very beginning and it can no longer be changed. The remaining 50% depends on the examples of people’s attitudes towards greed that surround us, as well as situations in the course of our lives, moreover, they can change in one direction or another. Therefore, we can always change our attitude towards greed a little, and this is done thanks to our intelligence and development. I used to be more greedy, but now I don't let this feeling take over me and many other feelings. I had a rethinking of values thanks to trading and investing. Now I always try, as much as possible, to exercise control over my mind and not give in to feelings such as greed.
This is also the case because greed will be there when we start playing and waiting for the right time to get bigger. If we win, greed will become great and perhaps beyond our control, so we will continue gambling instead of deciding to stop gambling. Most gamblers fall because their greed grows. They want a bigger win and forget that what they have got is actually enough. And that's what makes them deeper into gambling until they end up spending their money. Apart from greed, by continuing to gamble, they also take greater risks because they will experience greater losses even though they also have the opportunity to win. But it seems that defeat will dominate their gambling game and will make them lose their money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Lanatsa on November 30, 2023, 09:53:03 PM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.

Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.



There is no such thing as being stagnant in winnings from gambling, but what is more likely and what is in  accordance with the facts is that you will only suffer many losses if you continue to apply a selfish mindset by always wanting to hold on to moments that can make you smile.

In reality not everyone can accept the true fact that only luck can make them achieve the results they want or a little better, to be honest I'm not sure if there are some of them who can be  good friends with greed, as usual that not everyone can control it and what exists is that greed will always be an early indication of the next step/result which is much worse.

Instead of getting a much bigger win, the fact that happens is that you lose everything you got at the start, that is strong evidence and everyone has experienced it and that is why we should not behave  greedily in gambling activities, it doesn't matter if you are. want to implement it as long as you have to be prepared for all the bad impacts that will definitely occur.


Yes, gambling is unpredictable, thus the idea of consistent gains is a myth. The "selfish mindset" you suggest goes beyond short-term enjoyment. The gambler is lulled by the illusion of control. This needs further analysis. Is it luck or skill? Although certain games offer strategy, the odds are always in favor of the casino. It's interesting to think about the idea of "being good friends with greed". In gambling, greed is insatiable and generally leads to failure. In gambling's fleeting environment, losses are inevitable. Your advice against greed is a profound assessment of human fragility in uncertain times. Gambling requires a clear head and knowledge of its risks. It can be entertaining, but one must consider the repercussions.
To those people who had been thinking about those unrealistic goals and approach towards their gambling then just let them be on what are the things that they are currently doing. Sooner or later, on the time that gambling would really be damaging out their bankroll or totally wipe out the amount that they are playing then this is where self realization and learning would kick in on which these are the usual things that happen.
Going back into the situation on which OP had been displayed or showcased on then it would really be that depending on a certain gambler whether he would really be choosing on whether they would proceed
until the game finishes or would really be securing out the profits that they are currently gaining or getting.

In my case, whenever i do see those early cash outs then sometimes i do make some early exit and there are times on which i do make finish on the things that i have started.
Everything would really be that according into someones preference and risk taking since not all would really be that risk takers but when it comes to sports
then it is really more thrilling if you do let those bet until the very last second or to be over on which the thrill is really there.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on November 30, 2023, 10:12:28 PM

There is no such thing as being stagnant in winnings from gambling, but what is more likely and what is in  accordance with the facts is that you will only suffer many losses if you continue to apply a selfish mindset by always wanting to hold on to moments that can make you smile.

In reality not everyone can accept the true fact that only luck can make them achieve the results they want or a little better, to be honest I'm not sure if there are some of them who can be  good friends with greed, as usual that not everyone can control it and what exists is that greed will always be an early indication of the next step/result which is much worse.

Instead of getting a much bigger win, the fact that happens is that you lose everything you got at the start, that is strong evidence and everyone has experienced it and that is why we should not behave  greedily in gambling activities, it doesn't matter if you are. want to implement it as long as you have to be prepared for all the bad impacts that will definitely occur.



The risk was the common factor for the business,So it also the factor for the gambling.But some people negatively portrait the gambling to the wrong sense.Some people spoke about the gambling loss,but they are not ready to speak about the trading loss.So their word was not the neutral one.The gambler should take the responsibility of the loss as like the trader accept the loss in the trading.The trader will compensate the loss by the next trading in that month,So gambler should build their skill to tackle the loss as like trader do in the trading.The gambling will allow to win more then the trading profit from any coin.The gambler accept the risk of gambling and do their own tactics for the gambling game.So one day the gambler become the example for the new gambler by making big win.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: TelolettOm on November 30, 2023, 10:38:01 PM
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.
No matter how good their knowledge is, if someone cannot manage their emotions and mentality, including greed and panic, then it will not end well. You are right that the two support each other, but they are not the same. because after all, mental and emotional readiness when gambling is very important. This is to avoid various undesirable things, especially if it is related to being greedy with thoughts of going higher and higher. Meanwhile, in fact, they are also aware that with the knowledge they have, it is time to stop, but this uncontrolled greedy nature can be really bad, especially in gambling. And the odds are a big planner which will definitely be super interesting for people like this.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: lionheart78 on November 30, 2023, 11:36:00 PM
Yes, they will keep trying to imitate what happened before and wanting to keep those winning moments, but in reality, it isn't true
having a continuous winning streak is not an always the outcome.

Who won't cherish a bet that gives a person a huge win.  Of course gambler will always wanted to repeat such moment but obviously for luck-based game, it would be very difficult but for skill-type gambling games, it would be very easy if the person is capable of analyzing the right outcomeo of a match.

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You need to realize that gambling is more on strategy and luck, though in some sense greed may be a friend if you know how to play with it.

It is always a different approach between the luck-based game like slots, dice and so on, and skill-based game like poker and sports betting.  Obviously luck is needed on both to ensure one of their winnings but I think in skill based games, strategy, analyzation and careful prediction can often replicate the winning moment of the game.

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But most of the time, that greed will lead you to lose a lot and keep you trying from time to time.

It is given, that greed often makes a gambler lose their control and cool. Anyone's decision is negatively affected when greed triggers.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Iroh on November 30, 2023, 11:56:11 PM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. It’s a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games I’ve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldn’t say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost can’t be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on December 01, 2023, 12:58:04 AM
Without a doubt that is what happens and this can be terrible for a newbie gambler, because now what they want is to obtain profits out of gambling, and while we know that a few gamblers are able to do that, a newbie gambler does not have the tools to produce those kind of results, so they may begin to use way more money than what they originally thought, only to find themselves losing all of that money and not knowing what to do as that was money they actually needed in order to pay their bills and other debts they may have had.
The worry of new gamblers can lead to greed if they want high profits in every bet, especially if they ever reach a profit of x10 then greed can no longer be controlled to achieve higher profits, they will increase the number of bets and redeposit their money in gambling, so whoever is a gambler Beginners must be given the knowledge to gamble properly to avoid greed and the high risks of gambling. Another reason is that they speculate too much to get high profits from gambling but they don't know that the ratio of wins in gambling is much lower than losses, so they need to limit funds for gambling before they experience the risk of high losses.
What I know for sure is that it's not only beginner gamblers who make profit but they become greedy. I think there are many gambler who have that kind of attitude who don't feel satisfied when they get a profits and try to continue their gambling activities hoping to make even more profits, even though thats actually the case can make him lose control so that the profits can run out due to too much pursuit of bigger profits and can cause losses instead of profits.

Beginner gambler really needs to be taught so that they don't have an attitude that is too greedy like that, perhap by losing a lot of money or losing profits that won't increase or even run out, they can think for themselves, being too greedy is indeed an action that should not be applied to gamblers. They must be able to assess the pros and cons of such an attitude so that when one day they want to gamble again they can limit themselves when they have made a profit.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 01, 2023, 08:14:44 AM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. It’s a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games I’ve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldn’t say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost can’t be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.
Indeed, gamblers can win $100 with a betting capital of $10, but that is very rare for most gamblers. Most gamblers will only lose that $10 and will be motivated to deposit more money to win the gambling game. They feel they can still gamble by depositing more money so they choose to deposit more money. Sports betting is a game that they can choose because they can bet with small stakes several times but they must have the ability to find a team that has a chance of winning.

But gamblers should be careful because if they win and continue gambling, maybe they won't have much chance of winning again. And if they can't control their greed in gambling, they will only spend more money. To win, you must be more alert, control yourself, and not continue gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: letteredhub on December 01, 2023, 08:26:46 AM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. It’s a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games I’ve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldn’t say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost can’t be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.
Indeed, gamblers can win $100 with a betting capital of $10, but that is very rare for most gamblers. Most gamblers will only lose that $10 and will be motivated to deposit more money to win the gambling game. They feel they can still gamble by depositing more money so they choose to deposit more money. Sports betting is a game that they can choose because they can bet with small stakes several times but they must have the ability to find a team that has a chance of winning.
Not all gamblers that plays with a small amount of  money in order to win big amount do so out of greed it could be that  the small money of $10 was the amount they had with them at the time of making the bet, some however, do use small amounts as a means to be able to have many chances of playing to try their luck instead of using all of the money at ones. While some are just mere greed, they want to win even more than a $100 with just $5, even if it's possible with luck setting in but it's rare to happen and before it does you could have lost many times more than whatever amount you will be winning.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Abdulzuruku01 on December 01, 2023, 10:37:22 AM
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.

Of course I would cash out if I were the one, I can't see this as a greedy decision.
Gambling is all about taking risk, sometimes you will cash out and regret it, and other times you will risk it and still regret it.
It really depends on the kind of gambler. Some professional gamblers can take the risk because they are financially sound and they won't feel any pain of losing  however, in other cases, they know that cashing out is the best option, the bettor has the final say over whether to proceed or not


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on December 01, 2023, 10:49:42 AM
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.
No matter how good their knowledge is, if someone cannot manage their emotions and mentality, including greed and panic, then it will not end well. You are right that the two support each other, but they are not the same. because after all, mental and emotional readiness when gambling is very important. This is to avoid various undesirable things, especially if it is related to being greedy with thoughts of going higher and higher. Meanwhile, in fact, they are also aware that with the knowledge they have, it is time to stop, but this uncontrolled greedy nature can be really bad, especially in gambling. And the odds are a big planner which will definitely be super interesting for people like this.
It all depends on the psychology of gambler, if they have good psychology in every action and under any circumstances then they will definitely have calm and there is very little chance of emotional disturbances that make it difficult to think positively.
But if gambler only relies on emotions without calm mind then it is true that they can be very affected by emotional and mental stress which makes it difficult to control themselves, especially to stop and think carefully.
It seems that many gamblers fail to have good psychology so that they experience several bad things which of course have quite dangerous negative impacts on the continuity of their gambling activities.
We must be able to control everything if we want to remain safe in gambling and we must have several efforts to achieve this control.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Negotiation on December 01, 2023, 11:20:20 AM
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.
No matter how good their knowledge is, if someone cannot manage their emotions and mentality, including greed and panic, then it will not end well. You are right that the two support each other, but they are not the same. because after all, mental and emotional readiness when gambling is very important. This is to avoid various undesirable things, especially if it is related to being greedy with thoughts of going higher and higher. Meanwhile, in fact, they are also aware that with the knowledge they have, it is time to stop, but this uncontrolled greedy nature can be really bad, especially in gambling. And the odds are a big planner which will definitely be super interesting for people like this.
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: summonerrk on December 01, 2023, 11:28:09 AM
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.

Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 01, 2023, 12:21:30 PM
Not all gamblers that plays with a small amount of  money in order to win big amount do so out of greed it could be that  the small money of $10 was the amount they had with them at the time of making the bet, some however, do use small amounts as a means to be able to have many chances of playing to try their luck instead of using all of the money at ones. While some are just mere greed, they want to win even more than a $100 with just $5, even if it's possible with luck setting in but it's rare to happen and before it does you could have lost many times more than whatever amount you will be winning.
Yes, that's true because each gambler has a different fund allocation so they will gamble based on their fund allocation. But most gamblers who use small bets and can win large amounts of money will try to gamble again to win even more. Even though it is not recommended, that is what happens to many gamblers so it only increases the number of losses later. We cannot hope that luck will remain with us in the next round so that the final result will remain uncertain whether we win or lose. They may only be able to continue gambling but have to accept the risk if they lose because they desire to continue gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Jody.Drummer on December 01, 2023, 12:37:10 PM
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.

Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.

Yes of course, for people who have a personality and character that is easily emotional or provoked about anything that turns out the end result is not in accordance with what they want then the conditions will be even more complicated, not only in gambling but in real life it also applies, especially in gambling that usually a gambler is required to have self-control and emotions that then while on the other hand usually defeat will occur more often than victory, so of course I think such people will be very down with the unusual impact of uncontrolled gambling.

A big win is not the end of the world or that means it's not a real win, because everyone has different desires and expectations, like humans usually most have greed in them and usually when they get a win then instead of withdrawing the money from the win but instead act out of control that is greedy with the intention of getting a bigger win and finally all the winnings he has got are lost again because his luck has run out. Honestly, it is very dangerous if someone has devalued the concept of money, but it is very likely to happen when they get a win that they think is easy to get when on the other hand they are just lucky.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Ever-young on December 01, 2023, 01:35:34 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

First of, that amount there isn't the available cashout value, that's the Potential win. The game is 2.7 odds and was played with 1M to give you a potential value of 2.7M. but if eventually that was actually the cashout value, Whether I take out the cash out or not depends completely on my financial status or my bankroll and also the level of risk I took in staking the game. Let's say I used 1M to stake a game and I'm expecting a potential win of 10M and then I'm seeing a cashout of 2M. Or 3M, I sure won't take the cashout, I'll let the game finish and be prepared for the outcome. But if I'm expecting a 3M or 4M potential win and then I see a 2.7M cashout, hell yeah I'll take it out cos it would be greedy of me to let that amount slip off my finger and I'm uncertain about the outcome the game.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on December 01, 2023, 02:20:05 PM
Well, in this scenario, its greed to a low income person and risk to a high income person. For someone who's financial situation isn't really affected by the outcome of the bet, he's just trying to catch cruise and make a point to probably his friends that a certain team can win by betting. He sees it as a risk and just feels good while its going in his Favour.  His heart doesn't skip a beat even if the outcome travels in an opposite direction. He is financially stable and all these are mere fun to him. Unlike someone who places bets and casts his hope on the outcome of the bet, that kind of not so well off guy on seeing this cashout and leaves the match to continue rolling is really playing with fire and for me, that's greed on his path because its clear that he's almost got all his gains remaining almost nothing and such greed can be very costly because football isn't mathematics and anything, even the unthinkable can happen in the blink of an eye. I'm not gonna pity him at all if the tables turns around.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on December 01, 2023, 02:35:12 PM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. It’s a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games I’ve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldn’t say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost can’t be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.
Indeed, gamblers can win $100 with a betting capital of $10, but that is very rare for most gamblers. Most gamblers will only lose that $10 and will be motivated to deposit more money to win the gambling game. They feel they can still gamble by depositing more money so they choose to deposit more money. Sports betting is a game that they can choose because they can bet with small stakes several times but they must have the ability to find a team that has a chance of winning.

But gamblers should be careful because if they win and continue gambling, maybe they won't have much chance of winning again. And if they can't control their greed in gambling, they will only spend more money. To win, you must be more alert, control yourself, and not continue gambling.
Yes, it is possible to turn $10 into $100 by betting on sports, which is similar to the idea of getting rich quickly. But isnt this the well-known gambler's fallacy? Many people get caught in a cycle of constant gaming because they think they are "due" a win. The odds are always in favor of the house; bettors will lose over time.

You may ask, "What about inner strength?" It very important, but famously hard to find in the gambling world. The thrill of a possible win often gets in the way of making smart choices. Being aware and controlling your greed arent enough. You also need to see gambling for what it is: entertainment, not a safe way to make money. So, shouldnt we question whether its smart to expect to win all the time in a system thats set up to lose? People who can leave at the right time are the ones who really risk something.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 01, 2023, 07:50:57 PM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. It’s a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games I’ve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldn’t say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost can’t be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.
Indeed, gamblers can win $100 with a betting capital of $10, but that is very rare for most gamblers. Most gamblers will only lose that $10 and will be motivated to deposit more money to win the gambling game. They feel they can still gamble by depositing more money so they choose to deposit more money. Sports betting is a game that they can choose because they can bet with small stakes several times but they must have the ability to find a team that has a chance of winning.

But gamblers should be careful because if they win and continue gambling, maybe they won't have much chance of winning again. And if they can't control their greed in gambling, they will only spend more money. To win, you must be more alert, control yourself, and not continue gambling.

I think the bigger problem is that if it works once, the gambler thinks that it can work multiple times. But what is the probability that it works once and then it doesn't work several times in a row? That probability is pretty high and it could mislead a gambler into thinking that he has done the right things instead of just realizing that they got lucky. This really is a common trap because I have seen many people thinking they are geniuses because they won this one impossible jackpot maybe in betting, blackjack, poker or some other game. That's where bad things can get started.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Miles2006 on December 01, 2023, 07:58:54 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


When it comes to gambling we are all different, we have different ways of seeing things in terms of taking risks and cashing out early, your friend is ok with taking risks so you have to respect that, each one of us has a different personality when it comes to gambling, some are very careful, some careless and some has a risky behavior so we have to respect their decision as long as they don't regret their decision and they are comfortable with it.
It will also cause a rift between you and your friend if you keep interfering with your friend's decision, so let him decide for himself.
Greed or not I think that's what the person wants and we should respect the decision, he felt like he will earn more and it seems he can take risks, I will not call it greed but he just want more, it's obvious everyone wants more and nobody will decide to settle for less. But I will peacefully cash out my money to avoid stories that touches the heart.

Every gambler must exhibit one of this habit, being careful or careless and that's normal because we must not be the same, it's best to choose what's best for ourselves, when it comes to our gambling life we should avoid taking risk to avoid depression.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on December 01, 2023, 08:02:25 PM
Well, in this scenario, its greed to a low income person and risk to a high income person. For someone who's financial situation isn't really affected by the outcome of the bet, he's just trying to catch cruise and make a point to probably his friends that a certain team can win by betting. He sees it as a risk and just feels good while its going in his Favour.  His heart doesn't skip a beat even if the outcome travels in an opposite direction. He is financially stable and all these are mere fun to him. Unlike someone who places bets and casts his hope on the outcome of the bet, that kind of not so well off guy on seeing this cashout and leaves the match to continue rolling is really playing with fire and for me, that's greed on his path because its clear that he's almost got all his gains remaining almost nothing and such greed can be very costly because football isn't mathematics and anything, even the unthinkable can happen in the blink of an eye. I'm not gonna pity him at all if the tables turns around.
some time that is the class separations between rich forks and average person while comparing the level and rate of risk,  but then also when it comes to risk vs greed,  there are levels to that and at some point, we all have to accept the fact that greed is more dipper than risk and but the risk can give birth to greed but greed can never become risk most especially in a situation where the individual is taking a calculated risk at some point.

When the rich get greedy we may tend to call it risk because their have the surplus to play around with,  but in the end greed is greed and nothing to relate it to risk at all.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 02, 2023, 10:05:38 AM
Yes, it is possible to turn $10 into $100 by betting on sports, which is similar to the idea of getting rich quickly. But isnt this the well-known gambler's fallacy? Many people get caught in a cycle of constant gaming because they think they are "due" a win. The odds are always in favor of the house; bettors will lose over time.

You may ask, "What about inner strength?" It very important, but famously hard to find in the gambling world. The thrill of a possible win often gets in the way of making smart choices. Being aware and controlling your greed arent enough. You also need to see gambling for what it is: entertainment, not a safe way to make money. So, shouldnt we question whether its smart to expect to win all the time in a system thats set up to lose? People who can leave at the right time are the ones who really risk something.
Maybe that's what makes gamblers think that they can get rich from gambling with little money so they continue gambling while trying to win several gambling games. That is the greed that comes to them, especially for those who manage to win from gambling because they don't know that the harder they try, the more they can experience a lot of losses. And it won't make them rich from gambling.

The sensation of winning will blind them to the reality that they will receive if they continue gambling after winning. They will have difficulty winning the gambling game because they will not be able to win easily. That inner strength may work for them but most of the time, it won't work because it will go back to the people who have their luck. The more greedy we are to get more wins, the more money we can lose, so we have to know ourselves by limiting the money we spend on gambling. Besides, it's not worth doing, especially since we're just small gamblers who only use a little money to gamble.

I think the bigger problem is that if it works once, the gambler thinks that it can work multiple times. But what is the probability that it works once and then it doesn't work several times in a row? That probability is pretty high and it could mislead a gambler into thinking that he has done the right things instead of just realizing that they got lucky. This really is a common trap because I have seen many people thinking they are geniuses because they won this one impossible jackpot maybe in betting, blackjack, poker or some other game. That's where bad things can get started.
If this is successful, the gambler should be able to stop gambling rather than continue gambling because it will not always be successful in winning. They will not always be able to win and must be able to control their greed so that it does not create difficulties for them. By always controlling themselves when playing gambling, they will realize that winning is not easy and they have to have many things before they can win. Skill and luck are required to win so if they have already won, it is time to stop gambling and leave the casino.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 02, 2023, 10:59:53 AM

If this is successful, the gambler should be able to stop gambling rather than continue gambling because it will not always be successful in winning. They will not always be able to win and must be able to control their greed so that it does not create difficulties for them. By always controlling themselves when playing gambling, they will realize that winning is not easy and they have to have many things before they can win. Skill and luck are required to win so if they have already won, it is time to stop gambling and leave the casino.

But which gambler will simply stop? That is a very rare occasion and who gets to decide what is greed and what is the desire for relaxation and pleasure? It is like someone who loves to play poker and got lucky once big time. Telling that person to stop or believing that the person will top by themselves is not realistic.

But I agree with you that in a perfect world if someone gets lucky one time and maybe makes a lot of money, the best would be to stop or to continue in such a moderate way that whatever the person won will never be at risk to be lost entirely.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 02, 2023, 11:31:59 AM
But which gambler will simply stop? That is a very rare occasion and who gets to decide what is greed and what is the desire for relaxation and pleasure? It is like someone who loves to play poker and got lucky once big time. Telling that person to stop or believing that the person will top by themselves is not realistic.

But I agree with you that in a perfect world if someone gets lucky one time and maybe makes a lot of money, the best would be to stop or to continue in such a moderate way that whatever the person won will never be at risk to be lost entirely.
Gamblers who can just stop gambling are gamblers who have good self-control. When someone wants to continue gambling when they have won, perhaps it is because their greed has started to increase and if they cannot control themselves, they will only follow their lust to continue gambling. When that happens, a person will start to become addicted to gambling and if he continues to allow it, his gambling addiction will grow and he will not be able to control himself.

We can only limit our gambling activities so that we don't experience gambling addiction as a result of greed and taking bigger risks. We control gambling activities and not greed controls it, so we must really control ourselves in gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 02, 2023, 03:35:12 PM
But which gambler will simply stop? That is a very rare occasion and who gets to decide what is greed and what is the desire for relaxation and pleasure? It is like someone who loves to play poker and got lucky once big time. Telling that person to stop or believing that the person will top by themselves is not realistic.

But I agree with you that in a perfect world if someone gets lucky one time and maybe makes a lot of money, the best would be to stop or to continue in such a moderate way that whatever the person won will never be at risk to be lost entirely.
Gamblers who can just stop gambling are gamblers who have good self-control. When someone wants to continue gambling when they have won, perhaps it is because their greed has started to increase and if they cannot control themselves, they will only follow their lust to continue gambling. When that happens, a person will start to become addicted to gambling and if he continues to allow it, his gambling addiction will grow and he will not be able to control himself.

We can only limit our gambling activities so that we don't experience gambling addiction as a result of greed and taking bigger risks. We control gambling activities and not greed controls it, so we must really control ourselves in gambling.

But sometimes I think it is also about exploiting momentum because let us take the example of poker and you have a damn lucky streak one evening playing cash game. Now because you have a lucky streak, you feel that everyone else at the table is tilting. You can notice because of the way they play. Should you now stop because you know you played bullshit but won ten showdowns in a row or should you now tighten up and keep playing solid poker? :) I think this is an interesting question as well because sometimes it just feels like it is your day. Does it have to do with greed or with riding a momentum?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: GigaBit on December 02, 2023, 05:49:45 PM
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.

Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
Agreed, as said, it happens in reality. The more a person expects to win in gambling, the greater the extent of his greed. There are many gamblers who start thinking of gambling as their main activity and when they lose their money they become restless for debt. At one point, while paying that loan, a major disaster came in their lives. Although greed is common in gambling, when the gambler cannot control his excessive greed, he will go far away from his normal life. In gambling greed and risk are very common but that definitely will be in gamblers limitation. In gambling where a gambler can take a break from gambling whenever he needs is less likely to lose.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: sompitonov on December 02, 2023, 06:08:20 PM
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.

Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
Agreed, as said, it happens in reality. The more a person expects to win in gambling, the greater the extent of his greed. There are many gamblers who start thinking of gambling as their main activity and when they lose their money they become restless for debt. At one point, while paying that loan, a major disaster came in their lives. Although greed is common in gambling, when the gambler cannot control his excessive greed, he will go far away from his normal life. In gambling greed and risk are very common but that definitely will be in gamblers limitation. In gambling where a gambler can take a break from gambling whenever he needs is less likely to lose.
In fact, this is a very difficult moment when the player is brought down to earth and destroys his illusions about constant earnings from gambling. He thought that now he would be able to pay off the loan for the house, but in reality it usually happens at the end of the month that he has nothing to feed his family. Here he can be completely devastated and continue to play because of his greed, which will of course be a complete mistake. If we want to start something like this, we must be prepared with a large reserve of money for 6 months - 1 year so that decisions in the game do not affect us and we do not think about how we will close one month. Probably, wild greed won't arise in us either.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 03, 2023, 08:18:47 AM
But sometimes I think it is also about exploiting momentum because let us take the example of poker and you have a damn lucky streak one evening playing cash game. Now because you have a lucky streak, you feel that everyone else at the table is tilting. You can notice because of the way they play. Should you now stop because you know you played bullshit but won ten showdowns in a row or should you now tighten up and keep playing solid poker? :) I think this is an interesting question as well because sometimes it just feels like it is your day. Does it have to do with greed or with riding a momentum?
It is rare for a gambler to win ten fights in a row, even if it is only 3 wins. But if someone manages to win a gambling game 3 times, he should immediately end the gambling game because, in the next game, there is no guarantee that he will win again. If he can end his gambling game, he has acted wisely with his winnings and been careful with his money to avoid using too much money for gambling.

It had something to do with greed because he also took advantage of his winning momentum by telling himself that he was lucky to win the gambling game. He must have thought that while he had won several times, at least he could add another win in the next round. But as I said, there is no guarantee he can win again in the next round.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 03, 2023, 10:07:13 AM
Does greed have anything to do with knowledge? Isn't it related to a person's nature and is a natural feeling that one has built within their mind since the beginning? Humans are born with some feelings and emotions, and greed is one of them, some people have a higher amount of greed in themselves just like some people are short-tempered and have a lot of anger in them, the same goes with sadness or jolliness, and every other feeling and emotion a person can have.
No matter how good their knowledge is, if someone cannot manage their emotions and mentality, including greed and panic, then it will not end well. You are right that the two support each other, but they are not the same. because after all, mental and emotional readiness when gambling is very important. This is to avoid various undesirable things, especially if it is related to being greedy with thoughts of going higher and higher. Meanwhile, in fact, they are also aware that with the knowledge they have, it is time to stop, but this uncontrolled greedy nature can be really bad, especially in gambling. And the odds are a big planner which will definitely be super interesting for people like this.
Honestly, no matter how good the knowledge is it will be useless if you don't apply your knowledge at the right time. Those who become greedy for gambling lose their wisdom. Betting bigger to get more then risk losing greed can have a profound effect on individuals causing significant problems in many areas of their lives. The urge to gamble can quickly turn into a compulsion that is difficult to control most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Ready to make big bets day in and day out proper planning can prevent a person from doing bad things. Also if the person has to control himself then it is easy to avoid damage if he can control his emotions.
Knowledge is a waste if we can't use it right, and the more we are not using the knowledge to build a good betting style and manage our account and also get to be practical with what we learn, the more it will be a waste of time. Imagine a gambler who is betting and betting and cannot stop, no matter what such has learned, it's a waste because emotion is ruling, and every other thing is secondary. Such would realise his errors only when he lost all or almost lost all the money in his betting account, so we fight that psychological part of ourselves when we bet, that is how anything we know can be fully utilized.

This applies to when we are having losing or winning streaks, we should just be sure that we are in control and put a stop to it when we feel any iota of emotion. This is particularly good especially when we are even winning, and we've seen a big winner turned to a big loser in just a day.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: sompitonov on December 03, 2023, 10:17:00 AM
But sometimes I think it is also about exploiting momentum because let us take the example of poker and you have a damn lucky streak one evening playing cash game. Now because you have a lucky streak, you feel that everyone else at the table is tilting. You can notice because of the way they play. Should you now stop because you know you played bullshit but won ten showdowns in a row or should you now tighten up and keep playing solid poker? :) I think this is an interesting question as well because sometimes it just feels like it is your day. Does it have to do with greed or with riding a momentum?
It is rare for a gambler to win ten fights in a row, even if it is only 3 wins. But if someone manages to win a gambling game 3 times, he should immediately end the gambling game because, in the next game, there is no guarantee that he will win again. If he can end his gambling game, he has acted wisely with his winnings and been careful with his money to avoid using too much money for gambling.

It had something to do with greed because he also took advantage of his winning momentum by telling himself that he was lucky to win the gambling game. He must have thought that while he had won several times, at least he could add another win in the next round. But as I said, there is no guarantee he can win again in the next round.
There are not many such players who can stop and walk away victorious to do this you need to have iron willpower, not everyone has that. And even if such a player is found, he will be tormented by the thought that his winning streak could definitely continue and the next day he will go and lose everything he won. Gambling sites know this, so they always try to remind you about themselves in an email or social network. In any case, I prefer to play for small stakes and have a lot of fun, sometimes I manage to leave gracefully, but still we know that we will definitely return, even if not the next day, then in a month.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: letteredhub on December 03, 2023, 12:51:39 PM
Not all gamblers that plays with a small amount of  money in order to win big amount do so out of greed it could be that  the small money of $10 was the amount they had with them at the time of making the bet, some however, do use small amounts as a means to be able to have many chances of playing to try their luck instead of using all of the money at ones. While some are just mere greed, they want to win even more than a $100 with just $5, even if it's possible with luck setting in but it's rare to happen and before it does you could have lost many times more than whatever amount you will be winning.
Yes, that's true because each gambler has a different fund allocation so they will gamble based on their fund allocation. But most gamblers who use small bets and can win large amounts of money will try to gamble again to win even more. Even though it is not recommended, that is what happens to many gamblers so it only increases the number of losses later. We cannot hope that luck will remain with us in the next round so that the final result will remain uncertain whether we win or lose. They may only be able to continue gambling but have to accept the risk if they lose because they desire to continue gambling.
A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Weawant on December 03, 2023, 01:04:03 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 03, 2023, 01:22:39 PM
There are not many such players who can stop and walk away victorious to do this you need to have iron willpower, not everyone has that. And even if such a player is found, he will be tormented by the thought that his winning streak could definitely continue and the next day he will go and lose everything he won. Gambling sites know this, so they always try to remind you about themselves in an email or social network. In any case, I prefer to play for small stakes and have a lot of fun, sometimes I manage to leave gracefully, but still we know that we will definitely return, even if not the next day, then in a month.
That is true because most people will be triggered to continue gambling until they run out of money for those who cannot control their emotions and themselves. But if they can control themselves, that won't happen because they will always remember that in gambling, winning is difficult and if they win, they must be able to restrain themselves from trying to chase victory. They must be able to think quickly to stop gambling immediately before their greed gets bigger and they can no longer control themselves. Playing gambling is just for fun and with small bets so that we can gamble for a while and enjoy the gambling game. But when we have had enough of gambling, we must immediately stop gambling and leave the casino.

A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.
Gamblers who have lost control of themselves will never be satisfied and immediately stop gambling because they still want to continue playing. And even if they lose, that won't stop them from gambling and maybe if the money runs out, then they can stop. But that probably won't stop them because they can just deposit more money into their gambling account to continue gambling. Maybe they can win on the second chance but that doesn't stop them from completely stopping gambling because greed is already in them and asks them to continue gambling again.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 03, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.
I have long heard that when a beginner makes his first bet and wins, it is worse than when he loses. Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s like a fish swallowing bait, but after that the fisherman will catch it. After a win, especially a very big one, it seems that now our life is settled and if we need money the player will come there again, but instead of giving us the same winnings, the player will lose and end up leaving several times more money there than he brought initially . That's why players take out loans to win back, confidence begins to disappear, but it's too late, greed has completely taken over them. The risk taken was exceeded tenfold. To prevent this from happening, we must not allow greed to take over us. If a person is very greedy and risky, then it is better for him not to enter into this, because the probability of failure is quite high.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 03, 2023, 01:47:26 PM
But sometimes I think it is also about exploiting momentum because let us take the example of poker and you have a damn lucky streak one evening playing cash game. Now because you have a lucky streak, you feel that everyone else at the table is tilting. You can notice because of the way they play. Should you now stop because you know you played bullshit but won ten showdowns in a row or should you now tighten up and keep playing solid poker? :) I think this is an interesting question as well because sometimes it just feels like it is your day. Does it have to do with greed or with riding a momentum?
It is rare for a gambler to win ten fights in a row, even if it is only 3 wins. But if someone manages to win a gambling game 3 times, he should immediately end the gambling game because, in the next game, there is no guarantee that he will win again. If he can end his gambling game, he has acted wisely with his winnings and been careful with his money to avoid using too much money for gambling.

It had something to do with greed because he also took advantage of his winning momentum by telling himself that he was lucky to win the gambling game. He must have thought that while he had won several times, at least he could add another win in the next round. But as I said, there is no guarantee he can win again in the next round.

But I still don't get the idea why a specific moment to stop should be better than another moment for as long as I understand that gambling is a losing game if I only do it for a long enough period of time. Because maybe I do stop today, but what about tomorrow with my next session? 99.9999% of gamblers in the world don't stop gambling entirely and never touch it again when they had one lucky streak. That is the most unrealistic thing ever. Over time my lucky streak will turn into what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, a game that makes me lose money over a long period of time.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: summonerrk on December 03, 2023, 04:44:12 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.
I have long heard that when a beginner makes his first bet and wins, it is worse than when he loses. Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s like a fish swallowing bait, but after that the fisherman will catch it. After a win, especially a very big one, it seems that now our life is settled and if we need money the player will come there again, but instead of giving us the same winnings, the player will lose and end up leaving several times more money there than he brought initially . That's why players take out loans to win back, confidence begins to disappear, but it's too late, greed has completely taken over them. The risk taken was exceeded tenfold. To prevent this from happening, we must not allow greed to take over us. If a person is very greedy and risky, then it is better for him not to enter into this, because the probability of failure is quite high.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: noormcs5 on December 03, 2023, 04:52:36 PM
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

Who uses profit from gambling money as a source to pay household bills or any kind of bills. I think no one should be that stupid because when you are not sure if you will be able to earn anything, when you know that income from gambling is not stable and many times you will be in loss instead of profit, then how can we think of paying our monthly bills by gambling money.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.

Yeah, gambling can make a person lazy if he thinks that he will solely earn from gambling.
When he do not earn from gambling, then he will sell his belongings to gamble more and hope if he can make income without any effort and just by gambling. To be honest, gamblers with such mindsets never succeed.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on December 03, 2023, 06:52:18 PM

I have long heard that when a beginner makes his first bet and wins, it is worse than when he loses. Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s like a fish swallowing bait, but after that the fisherman will catch it. After a win, especially a very big one, it seems that now our life is settled and if we need money the player will come there again, but instead of giving us the same winnings, the player will lose and end up leaving several times more money there than he brought initially . That's why players take out loans to win back, confidence begins to disappear, but it's too late, greed has completely taken over them. The risk taken was exceeded tenfold. To prevent this from happening, we must not allow greed to take over us. If a person is very greedy and risky, then it is better for him not to enter into this, because the probability of failure is quite high.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.

Basically gambling addiction can come or start from anything, even from the smallest things it can have an impact on gambling addiction, like your story here which starts with a jealousy that it turns out that they are not as lucky as their other friends in terms of winning gambling at the end of the session, and after that because of a sense of unacceptance that they are not as lucky as their friends, they will very likely make several attempts or even dozens of attempts in the hope of achieving satisfactory results or big wins to prove to their friends that they can also get big wins.

But will it happen? yes it is possible but the problem is how much money they have to sacrifice just to get such results, it is really unknown because luck can never be predicted when it comes and when it disappears. If they can't get a win like that to prove to their friend then obviously the more money they lose and this is where the addiction starts, then they are no longer looking for a win to prove to their friend but their goal is to gamble to get back the money they have lost, I think this is one scenario that is very likely to happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 03, 2023, 08:06:18 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.
I have long heard that when a beginner makes his first bet and wins, it is worse than when he loses. Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s like a fish swallowing bait, but after that the fisherman will catch it. After a win, especially a very big one, it seems that now our life is settled and if we need money the player will come there again, but instead of giving us the same winnings, the player will lose and end up leaving several times more money there than he brought initially . That's why players take out loans to win back, confidence begins to disappear, but it's too late, greed has completely taken over them. The risk taken was exceeded tenfold. To prevent this from happening, we must not allow greed to take over us. If a person is very greedy and risky, then it is better for him not to enter into this, because the probability of failure is quite high.

"Like a fish swallowing a bait" your scenario is very good at explaining things quite simply but clearly. Gamblers think that by winning everything will be over and they will feel great in that state without knowing that everything has just begun. If I were to give you a choice between $10 or $100 which would you choose? I know the answer would be to take the $100 because it's obviously a much bigger amount than $10, the same with someone who has just won money in gambling, if they get a $10 win they will think that "the win can be increased and more than this", they assume that it is a condition that will really give them a big win so they will continue to get their first $100.

Basically even if you withdraw $10 for example, you won't be able to escape or avoid the curiosity that is getting higher, in the sense that the next session your expectations are no longer about $10 but $100. This is the initial cycle of someone before entering the addiction phase, there is something like nicotine in their mind which means that the addiction begins to grow and emotions begin to increase because the answer in the second session is not what they expected. Impatience, loss of control, greed accompany them.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2023, 08:17:51 PM
But sometimes I think it is also about exploiting momentum because let us take the example of poker and you have a damn lucky streak one evening playing cash game. Now because you have a lucky streak, you feel that everyone else at the table is tilting. You can notice because of the way they play. Should you now stop because you know you played bullshit but won ten showdowns in a row or should you now tighten up and keep playing solid poker? :) I think this is an interesting question as well because sometimes it just feels like it is your day. Does it have to do with greed or with riding a momentum?
It is rare for a gambler to win ten fights in a row, even if it is only 3 wins. But if someone manages to win a gambling game 3 times, he should immediately end the gambling game because, in the next game, there is no guarantee that he will win again. If he can end his gambling game, he has acted wisely with his winnings and been careful with his money to avoid using too much money for gambling.

It had something to do with greed because he also took advantage of his winning momentum by telling himself that he was lucky to win the gambling game. He must have thought that while he had won several times, at least he could add another win in the next round. But as I said, there is no guarantee he can win again in the next round.

But I still don't get the idea why a specific moment to stop should be better than another moment for as long as I understand that gambling is a losing game if I only do it for a long enough period of time. Because maybe I do stop today, but what about tomorrow with my next session? 99.9999% of gamblers in the world don't stop gambling entirely and never touch it again when they had one lucky streak. That is the most unrealistic thing ever. Over time my lucky streak will turn into what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, a game that makes me lose money over a long period of time.
Well, it's OK that you used 99.9999 percent and not the word "all", because personally, I believe that it is very possible for a gambler to leave gambling and never try gambling again, ever, if he or she hits it big and manages to build a good business with the money.

Atleast, for a fact, I trust myself that, if luck locates me and I win up to a hundred thousand dollars from gambling tomorrow, I may never gamble again to be honest, except for what ever reason, I mismanaged the money, which is not possible at all, or that for what ever reason, my business isn't going well, which also Is not possible.

Overall, any gambler who is not addicted to gambling does have the potential and capability to quit gambling and never gamble again, but then, the need for more and more money will be the only reason why the gambler will keep coming back and back, over and over again.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on December 03, 2023, 08:52:26 PM
Well, it's OK that you used 99.9999 percent and not the word "all", because personally, I believe that it is very possible for a gambler to leave gambling and never try gambling again, ever, if he or she hits it big and manages to build a good business with the money.

Atleast, for a fact, I trust myself that, if luck locates me and I win up to a hundred thousand dollars from gambling tomorrow, I may never gamble again to be honest, except for what ever reason, I mismanaged the money, which is not possible at all, or that for what ever reason, my business isn't going well, which also Is not possible.

Overall, any gambler who is not addicted to gambling does have the potential and capability to quit gambling and never gamble again, but then, the need for more and more money will be the only reason why the gambler will keep coming back and back, over and over again.
I see things in the same way, while I do gamble from time to time if I was lucky enough to get a massive win you can be sure that despite my feelings of gratitude towards gambling due to such a happy occurrence, I will make sure to not gamble again, since I know very well that one of the most common mistakes gamblers make is to let greed control them, and they keep gambling hoping to get even more money from the casinos and lose it all during that process.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on December 03, 2023, 09:23:12 PM
Well, it's OK that you used 99.9999 percent and not the word "all", because personally, I believe that it is very possible for a gambler to leave gambling and never try gambling again, ever, if he or she hits it big and manages to build a good business with the money.

At least, for a fact, I trust myself that, if luck locates me and I win up to a hundred thousand dollars from gambling tomorrow, I may never gamble again to be honest, except for whatever reason, I mismanaged the money, which is not possible at all, or that for whatever reason, my business isn't going well, which also Is not possible.

Overall, any gambler who is not addicted to gambling does have the potential and capability to quit gambling and never gamble again, but then, the need for more and more money will be the only reason why the gambler will keep coming back and back, over and over again.
I see things in the same way, while I do gamble from time to time if I am lucky enough to get a massive win you can be sure that despite my feelings of gratitude towards gambling due to such a happy occurrence, I will make sure to not gamble again, since I know very well that one of the most common mistakes gamblers make is to let greed control them, and they keep gambling hoping to get even more money from the casinos and lose it all during that process.
Well for me, I may not take a total exit from gambling if I make a big win or hit a jackpot but I may likely take a short break from active gambling and for that, I may take a month or two to enjoy my winning and also limits my loses at all time, because by continues playing,  you may end in more loses at some point, then also greed may set in at some point in the process of being actively playing while you already made a winning.

Sometimes, what leads gamblers to lose more than they win is their inability to defeat their greed tendency and also chase a particular direction thinking that the result will repeat itself.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oilacris on December 03, 2023, 09:30:37 PM
Well, it's OK that you used 99.9999 percent and not the word "all", because personally, I believe that it is very possible for a gambler to leave gambling and never try gambling again, ever, if he or she hits it big and manages to build a good business with the money.

At least, for a fact, I trust myself that, if luck locates me and I win up to a hundred thousand dollars from gambling tomorrow, I may never gamble again to be honest, except for whatever reason, I mismanaged the money, which is not possible at all, or that for whatever reason, my business isn't going well, which also Is not possible.

Overall, any gambler who is not addicted to gambling does have the potential and capability to quit gambling and never gamble again, but then, the need for more and more money will be the only reason why the gambler will keep coming back and back, over and over again.
I see things in the same way, while I do gamble from time to time if I am lucky enough to get a massive win you can be sure that despite my feelings of gratitude towards gambling due to such a happy occurrence, I will make sure to not gamble again, since I know very well that one of the most common mistakes gamblers make is to let greed control them, and they keep gambling hoping to get even more money from the casinos and lose it all during that process.
Well for me, I may not take a total exit from gambling if I make a big win or hit a jackpot but I may likely take a short break from active gambling and for that, I may take a month or two to enjoy my winning and also limits my loses at all time, because by continues playing,  you may end in more loses at some point, then also greed may set in at some point in the process of being actively playing while you already made a winning.

Sometimes, what leads gamblers to lose more than they win is their inability to defeat their greed tendency and also chase a particular direction thinking that the result will repeat itself.
Failing on control your greed on the time on where its on peak specially when we are on winning side, then it cant really be avoided that we would be thinking that we should be playing
even more to get more winning. We are just humans then it would really be just that so normal that  you would really be thinking up this way or the emotions would really be kicking in on the time that we are in on such condition on which its inevitable. It would really be just that a matter of choice on how someone would really be that taking up corresponding actions basing up on the situation.
You would really be finding up yourself getting wrecked in longer runs if you do let your greed control you and this is something a very common scenario on gambling field.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Wiwo on December 03, 2023, 10:23:51 PM

Failing on control your greed on the time on where its on peak specially when we are on winning side, then it cant really be avoided that we would be thinking that we should be playing
even more to get more winning. We are just humans then it would really be just that so normal that  you would really be thinking up this way or the emotions would really be kicking in on the time that we are in on such condition on which its inevitable. It would really be just that a matter of choice on how someone would really be that taking up corresponding actions basing up on the situation.
You would really be finding up yourself getting wrecked in longer runs if you do let your greed control you and this is something a very common scenario on the gambling field.
Greed is one primary evil that needs to be defeated by all gamblers,  this is because many at times,  the negative reports of cases of gambling addictions all start from the gambler's inability to control their greed and also put them in control and check,  so many time,  the gambler just play based on his feeling and expectation from the games and this expectation can be sometimes misleading.

Because for a gambler who already made a decent winning,  to now want to continue gambling with the expectation of that he will make more winnings,  this will only lead him to multiple losses which if not controlled could be called a deformity since their mental balance is not near accurate to discover that,  gambling shouldn't be taken seriously.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on December 03, 2023, 10:50:42 PM
Greed is one primary evil that needs to be defeated by all gamblers,  this is because many at times,  the negative reports of cases of gambling addictions all start from the gambler's inability to control their greed and also put them in control and check,  so many time,  the gambler just play based on his feeling and expectation from the games and this expectation can be sometimes misleading.

Because for a gambler who already made a decent winning,  to now want to continue gambling with the expectation of that he will make more winnings,  this will only lead him to multiple losses which if not controlled could be called a deformity since their mental balance is not near accurate to discover that,  gambling shouldn't be taken seriously.

The greed was the cancer of gambling sites,the people who get addicted to the gambling site will suffer from the greedy.The reason was the gambler will loss huge money in the gambling site due to bad luck.So he get more greedy in the gambling site to recover their complete loss from the gambling site.The gamblers who had enough money can use the part of money in the gambling sites,if the loss was reflected he need to pause the game.

The gambler should wait till the mindset of the gambler was become normal,So the gambler are no need to get greedy for their old loss in the gambling site.No one can predict the game of gambler on a particular day,he may win or loss.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Africolo on December 03, 2023, 11:07:02 PM
No gambler is greedy. Gambling is a game of risk and so deciding to participate in gambling means that you are ready to shoulder the risk. Mostly, bettors don't stake games to cash out the game. I always ask this question "How do you win big when you are always quick to cash out games at every slight opportunity?

Gambling requires patience and belief. These are virtues that will make you benefit from gambling which is as unpredictable as life itself. I always equate the uncertainties in gambling with that of life but notwithstanding those uncertainties have benefited most gamblers.

Every gambler has a target and a reason for every game he stakes and it would be unjust to address anyone as greedy simply because he doesn't buy into your idea of " cash out". I will conclude by saying, show me a gambler who won millions and I will show you a gambler who didn't cash out.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 04, 2023, 05:25:03 AM
But I still don't get the idea why a specific moment to stop should be better than another moment for as long as I understand that gambling is a losing game if I only do it for a long enough period of time. Because maybe I do stop today, but what about tomorrow with my next session? 99.9999% of gamblers in the world don't stop gambling entirely and never touch it again when they had one lucky streak. That is the most unrealistic thing ever. Over time my lucky streak will turn into what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, a game that makes me lose money over a long period of time.
If you can master good self-control, you can control yourself whenever you gamble, even if it is the next day, because you know that gambling is for fun and not to make money. Most gamblers will not stop gambling completely, but they should be able to reduce their gambling activities, especially when they start gambling too often. Actually, it doesn't have to coincide with a certain moment to be able to stop gambling because you decide when you gamble and when you have to stop gambling. If you can't determine it, you will have difficulties and it will result in losing money when gambling. Continuing to gamble means we take a greater risk of losing. And if we have won but don't stop gambling, it may be because our greed tells us to keep playing and we take bigger risks to face what we will receive later.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: slapper on December 04, 2023, 07:53:15 AM
Greed is one primary evil that needs to be defeated by all gamblers,  this is because many at times,  the negative reports of cases of gambling addictions all start from the gambler's inability to control their greed and also put them in control and check,  so many time,  the gambler just play based on his feeling and expectation from the games and this expectation can be sometimes misleading.

Because for a gambler who already made a decent winning,  to now want to continue gambling with the expectation of that he will make more winnings,  this will only lead him to multiple losses which if not controlled could be called a deformity since their mental balance is not near accurate to discover that,  gambling shouldn't be taken seriously.

The greed was the cancer of gambling sites,the people who get addicted to the gambling site will suffer from the greedy.The reason was the gambler will loss huge money in the gambling site due to bad luck.So he get more greedy in the gambling site to recover their complete loss from the gambling site.The gamblers who had enough money can use the part of money in the gambling sites,if the loss was reflected he need to pause the game.

The gambler should wait till the mindset of the gambler was become normal,So the gambler are no need to get greedy for their old loss in the gambling site.No one can predict the game of gambler on a particular day,he may win or loss.
Gambling is a psychological game with yourself as well as a financial one. This test requires discipline, risk evaluation, and emotional control. Isn't greed in gambling more about failing to handle these characteristics than gambling itself? Greed is an issue when it blinds us to chances and risks. To resist greed and respect gambling's uncertainty, you must adopt a mindset. Your suggestion about pausing after a loss to reestablish a normal mindset is crucial. For some, the line between hobby and addiction is dangerously thin. Beyond waiting until one feels normal, one must understand why they gamble. Excitement, escape, or something else? This reflection can be more useful than a halt. We often focus on finances, but emotional and psychological factors are also important. The goal is to have a healthy, controlled, and most crucially self-aware gambling relationship. Aren't these the true challenges for everybody who enjoys this traditional pastime?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 04, 2023, 09:36:15 AM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.
I have long heard that when a beginner makes his first bet and wins, it is worse than when he loses. Maybe this is a bad example, but it’s like a fish swallowing bait, but after that the fisherman will catch it. After a win, especially a very big one, it seems that now our life is settled and if we need money the player will come there again, but instead of giving us the same winnings, the player will lose and end up leaving several times more money there than he brought initially . That's why players take out loans to win back, confidence begins to disappear, but it's too late, greed has completely taken over them. The risk taken was exceeded tenfold. To prevent this from happening, we must not allow greed to take over us. If a person is very greedy and risky, then it is better for him not to enter into this, because the probability of failure is quite high.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.
Yes, it is an illusion that the players around us are more successful and luckier than us. Many people’s character doesn't allow them to live with this and they try to refute it in practice and prove to themselves and those friends that we, too, can win no worse than them. This is where greed and disproportionate risk taken come to the fore. It has long been known that people tend to believe in something better, this is inherent in nature itself. But we must turn on our reason and remember that in this world, not everything is often so good and carefree. Gambling establishments will not waste money on everyone who wants it; there will always be more losers. And we must understand this very well.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on December 04, 2023, 10:21:48 AM
But I still don't get the idea why a specific moment to stop should be better than another moment for as long as I understand that gambling is a losing game if I only do it for a long enough period of time. Because maybe I do stop today, but what about tomorrow with my next session? 99.9999% of gamblers in the world don't stop gambling entirely and never touch it again when they had one lucky streak. That is the most unrealistic thing ever. Over time my lucky streak will turn into what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, a game that makes me lose money over a long period of time.
If you can master good self-control, you can control yourself whenever you gamble, even if it is the next day, because you know that gambling is for fun and not to make money. Most gamblers will not stop gambling completely, but they should be able to reduce their gambling activities, especially when they start gambling too often. Actually, it doesn't have to coincide with a certain moment to be able to stop gambling because you decide when you gamble and when you have to stop gambling. If you can't determine it, you will have difficulties and it will result in losing money when gambling. Continuing to gamble means we take a greater risk of losing. And if we have won but don't stop gambling, it may be because our greed tells us to keep playing and we take bigger risks to face what we will receive later.

Self-control is not something that you just say you have but a skill that you need to develop while playing, your good anticipation
plus, your understanding with the type of game or sports that you'll going to bet in.

Greed is always behind but with good control of emotion chances that you will enjoy the possible benefits of your gambling participation may occur.

It's more on thinking positively and not to be careless when opportunity is already in front of you, choose wisely and enjoy playing.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 04, 2023, 12:00:21 PM
But I still don't get the idea why a specific moment to stop should be better than another moment for as long as I understand that gambling is a losing game if I only do it for a long enough period of time. Because maybe I do stop today, but what about tomorrow with my next session? 99.9999% of gamblers in the world don't stop gambling entirely and never touch it again when they had one lucky streak. That is the most unrealistic thing ever. Over time my lucky streak will turn into what it was supposed to be from the very beginning, a game that makes me lose money over a long period of time.
If you can master good self-control, you can control yourself whenever you gamble, even if it is the next day, because you know that gambling is for fun and not to make money. Most gamblers will not stop gambling completely, but they should be able to reduce their gambling activities, especially when they start gambling too often. Actually, it doesn't have to coincide with a certain moment to be able to stop gambling because you decide when you gamble and when you have to stop gambling. If you can't determine it, you will have difficulties and it will result in losing money when gambling. Continuing to gamble means we take a greater risk of losing. And if we have won but don't stop gambling, it may be because our greed tells us to keep playing and we take bigger risks to face what we will receive later.

It might also depend on who that person is that won big once in a lifetime. If it is someone who knew forever how to deal with money, how to avoid buying unnecessary items and whatever else some could afford, then it might be possible that someone just walks away from gambling.

But there are many examples also of lottery winners who wasted their money in a way that at first seemed to be impossible. That's why I said 99.999% because I doubt that it is the overwhelming minority which would stop gambling forever.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Webetcoins on December 04, 2023, 05:25:22 PM
A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.
Yep, a gambler who gambles only to earn money from it barely gets satisfied with the winnings no matter how big the amount they've won is, they will always try to increase their winnings and in that pursuit, they lose what they've won if they aren't wise enough to stop at the right time and in most cases, greed takes over the mind of a gambler who is gambling just for the sake of profits and don't consider gambling a source of entertainment or a time killer for them.

People who are gambling for gains and have been losing constantly don't consider a win to be good enough if it's insignificant to cover all the losses they had to bear so far because they would want to recover their losses before they end the session but in most cases, they end up losing everything which will be the end of the session for them.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 04, 2023, 05:41:04 PM
A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.
Yep, a gambler who gambles only to earn money from it barely gets satisfied with the winnings no matter how big the amount they've won is, they will always try to increase their winnings and in that pursuit, they lose what they've won if they aren't wise enough to stop at the right time and in most cases, greed takes over the mind of a gambler who is gambling just for the sake of profits and don't consider gambling a source of entertainment or a time killer for them.

People who are gambling for gains and have been losing constantly don't consider a win to be good enough if it's insignificant to cover all the losses they had to bear so far because they would want to recover their losses before they end the session but in most cases, they end up losing everything which will be the end of the session for them.

If we discuss something in terms of hopes and desires then obviously it will always have no end, as happens in real life, usually we have difficulty in choosing about what is actually needed and what is wanted, often we are fooled because of these two things that usually unconsciously we prefer desires that basically do not really have a positive role / impact on our lives. It's the same with gambling, when people have high hopes following the desire to get something bigger then obviously they will prefer to increase the risk when in reality they can't accept all the consequences if they end up losing.

So in my opinion there are only two things that have the possibility to stop it, namely awareness and regret, realizing that everything they do including the mindset they carry is wrong and only makes them worse and with that incident there is some potential that makes them feel regret. If you gamble with high hopes and desires then obviously it is not entertainment that you get but a lot of pressure and new problems that arise because you are wrong in understanding the real gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: summonerrk on December 04, 2023, 07:01:46 PM

I think that at this point it is very important to know the basic principles of mathematics, and not to be naive. But as practice shows, most people believe that there is some kind of Universal justice, there is Luck and that everything is predetermined. But you always need to think soberly and logically - life is one big random thing. It may be unfair, and this is normal, because mathematics allows that anyone can play 100 times in a row. These are the laws of mathematics, but for some reason many people look for hidden meaning in everything.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.
Yes, it is an illusion that the players around us are more successful and luckier than us. Many people’s character doesn't allow them to live with this and they try to refute it in practice and prove to themselves and those friends that we, too, can win no worse than them. This is where greed and disproportionate risk taken come to the fore. It has long been known that people tend to believe in something better, this is inherent in nature itself. But we must turn on our reason and remember that in this world, not everything is often so good and carefree. Gambling establishments will not waste money on everyone who wants it; there will always be more losers. And we must understand this very well.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 05, 2023, 04:37:44 AM
Self-control is not something that you just say you have but a skill that you need to develop while playing, your good anticipation
plus, your understanding with the type of game or sports that you'll going to bet in.

Greed is always behind but with good control of emotion chances that you will enjoy the possible benefits of your gambling participation may occur.

It's more on thinking positively and not to be careless when opportunity is already in front of you, choose wisely and enjoy playing.
Self-control must be trained continuously, especially in gambling games so that we can know when to stop gambling. If not, we will only experience difficulties because we cannot stop and will instead spend all our money without being able to win. And even though we can win, it won't stop us from trying to win more and that means our greed has increased and we can no longer control it. And that will obviously make us addicted to gambling, which we cannot control because we just want to gamble for a long time. Playing gambling longer than before means we are taking a greater risk of losing money than before.

It might also depend on who that person is that won big once in a lifetime. If it is someone who knew forever how to deal with money, how to avoid buying unnecessary items and whatever else some could afford, then it might be possible that someone just walks away from gambling.

But there are many examples also of lottery winners who wasted their money in a way that at first seemed to be impossible. That's why I said 99.999% because I doubt that it is the overwhelming minority which would stop gambling forever.
Yes, managing big winnings is not as easy as we imagine because we will definitely be tempted to buy things that we don't actually need but just follow our lifestyle so we won't know how much money we have spent to buy these things with money the win we got. This also requires self-control to be able to deal with the winning money that we get so that we only buy the things we need and save most of the money for our future or use it to create a business and invest so that we can have a source of income.

Many lottery winners waste their money in improper ways, such as buying things they don't need. Only a small percentage can really use their winnings well and prepare their future well too. These are the people who can change their lives for the better in the future. They don't mind if they still live simply with the winning money because they only think about their future with the winning money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 05, 2023, 06:07:37 PM
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Yes, managing big winnings is not as easy as we imagine because we will definitely be tempted to buy things that we don't actually need but just follow our lifestyle so we won't know how much money we have spent to buy these things with money the win we got. This also requires self-control to be able to deal with the winning money that we get so that we only buy the things we need and save most of the money for our future or use it to create a business and invest so that we can have a source of income.

Many lottery winners waste their money in improper ways, such as buying things they don't need. Only a small percentage can really use their winnings well and prepare their future well too. These are the people who can change their lives for the better in the future. They don't mind if they still live simply with the winning money because they only think about their future with the winning money.

I think that it comes more down to financial literacy and whether people understand accompanying costs that come with certain assets. For instance if someone wins a lot of money and buys houses and cars, that person might not have the understanding of those assets necessary to calculate long-term financial consequences and also short-term costs that could be inflicted for unexpected reasons or just reasons not known to the new owner. A lot of money needs a lot of planning if there is a lot of buying. If someone just leans back in their old apartment paying for the same stuff as before, life will be easy and wonderful. :) 


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 06, 2023, 07:30:21 AM
I think that it comes more down to financial literacy and whether people understand accompanying costs that come with certain assets. For instance if someone wins a lot of money and buys houses and cars, that person might not have the understanding of those assets necessary to calculate long-term financial consequences and also short-term costs that could be inflicted for unexpected reasons or just reasons not known to the new owner. A lot of money needs a lot of planning if there is a lot of buying. If someone just leans back in their old apartment paying for the same stuff as before, life will be easy and wonderful. :) 
That means it depends on how someone can manage their finances well and correctly, especially if they can get big wins. It will require careful planning to carry out. Having a lot of money from big wins from gambling will make someone feel that they are superior to other people and they will start buying things that they don't really need. They can still live simply as before and the money from their big winnings can be saved for other things. They are better off using their winnings for long-term investments that can provide big profits rather than buying things they don't need. By investing, they can have a source of passive income to prepare for the future and they can still live a simple life and there will be no problems.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 06, 2023, 10:01:36 AM
I think that it comes more down to financial literacy and whether people understand accompanying costs that come with certain assets. For instance if someone wins a lot of money and buys houses and cars, that person might not have the understanding of those assets necessary to calculate long-term financial consequences and also short-term costs that could be inflicted for unexpected reasons or just reasons not known to the new owner. A lot of money needs a lot of planning if there is a lot of buying. If someone just leans back in their old apartment paying for the same stuff as before, life will be easy and wonderful. :) 
That means it depends on how someone can manage their finances well and correctly, especially if they can get big wins. It will require careful planning to carry out. Having a lot of money from big wins from gambling will make someone feel that they are superior to other people and they will start buying things that they don't really need. They can still live simply as before and the money from their big winnings can be saved for other things. They are better off using their winnings for long-term investments that can provide big profits rather than buying things they don't need. By investing, they can have a source of passive income to prepare for the future and they can still live a simple life and there will be no problems.

There is no if X then Y. Some people will feel superior to others while some people might feel the need to hoard their money even more after a big win. Human beings are individuals and make their decisions in different ways and under different circumstances. But experience has a lot to do with the course of action they may take in the future. I have the feeling that especially older people who didn't have much when they were younger tend to hoard more than others. But if you are in your 20s to 30s, have never been poor nor rich, and out of a sudden you win this lottery jackpot, I think a lot of things can go wrong.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Outhue on December 06, 2023, 10:08:17 AM
A lack of  satisfaction and high expectations is what makes some gamblers to still continue playing after having a win that was supposed to be taken as the achievement of the day but they get unsatisfied with the amount bethinking that maybe if they could try another bet again it might get them lucky to win again but it most times ends in loss. For the fact that I was lucky to win ones or probably twice at a row doesn't make it certain that I might continue in the winning streaks. Sometimes that one win after many times of losses for the day is just fortune own way of smiling at us so we don't go back home completely emptied.
Yep, a gambler who gambles only to earn money from it barely gets satisfied with the winnings no matter how big the amount they've won is, they will always try to increase their winnings and in that pursuit, they lose what they've won if they aren't wise enough to stop at the right time and in most cases, greed takes over the mind of a gambler who is gambling just for the sake of profits and don't consider gambling a source of entertainment or a time killer for them.

People who are gambling for gains and have been losing constantly don't consider a win to be good enough if it's insignificant to cover all the losses they had to bear so far because they would want to recover their losses before they end the session but in most cases, they end up losing everything which will be the end of the session for them.
The main reason why majority of gamblers starts gambling from day one is to make money, and when they win only very little its very hard to be satisfied, someone close to me have once called a car dealer to buy a ride when the gambling match was still ongoing, and in the end he lost the money, imagine gambling doing such thing to you, I knew that people have high expectations from gambling that's why they are used to getting rammed by losses.

The lower your expectations from gambling, the better your results will be, and you will be able to control your greed too, people are too greedy, trying to turn $10 into a million dollars, they will add so many games on their ticket, hoping that all the games comes positive in the end, this habits ruins the mind and make someone lose hope on themselves.  

It's not easy to get rich, make sure your way is fair enough, not some superstition way of living, when I gamble with $10 I don't dream to net even a thousand dollars, I have took $20 profit before and I stop gambling for the day, it's free extra $10 and it's a win for me.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: danherbias07 on December 06, 2023, 11:12:08 AM
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Yes, managing big winnings is not as easy as we imagine because we will definitely be tempted to buy things that we don't actually need but just follow our lifestyle so we won't know how much money we have spent to buy these things with money the win we got. This also requires self-control to be able to deal with the winning money that we get so that we only buy the things we need and save most of the money for our future or use it to create a business and invest so that we can have a source of income.

Many lottery winners waste their money in improper ways, such as buying things they don't need. Only a small percentage can really use their winnings well and prepare their future well too. These are the people who can change their lives for the better in the future. They don't mind if they still live simply with the winning money because they only think about their future with the winning money.

I think that it comes more down to financial literacy and whether people understand accompanying costs that come with certain assets. For instance if someone wins a lot of money and buys houses and cars, that person might not have the understanding of those assets necessary to calculate long-term financial consequences and also short-term costs that could be inflicted for unexpected reasons or just reasons not known to the new owner. A lot of money needs a lot of planning if there is a lot of buying. If someone just leans back in their old apartment paying for the same stuff as before, life will be easy and wonderful. :) 
That's the problem with those sudden winners and I think that's where they should seek advice from those who are studying in this field. Financial advisors. Sure, they are expensive to hire but I do believe it's more expensive to just waste money from things that we don't really need. Somehow, these specialists can show us the right way how we can manage our financial accounts and assets.
There is always a chance that greed will be there and a gambler who won big from gambling might come back thinking he is lucky and will consume more money to test it out which I think is a bad idea.
Once we win an amount that may change our lives, it's best to stay away from gambling and then find a new way to make profits in which risks are not that high anymore. Investment, businesses, or whatever it may be that will give us passive income.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on December 06, 2023, 12:16:17 PM
I think that it comes more down to financial literacy and whether people understand accompanying costs that come with certain assets. For instance if someone wins a lot of money and buys houses and cars, that person might not have the understanding of those assets necessary to calculate long-term financial consequences and also short-term costs that could be inflicted for unexpected reasons or just reasons not known to the new owner. A lot of money needs a lot of planning if there is a lot of buying. If someone just leans back in their old apartment paying for the same stuff as before, life will be easy and wonderful. :) 
That means it depends on how someone can manage their finances well and correctly, especially if they can get big wins. It will require careful planning to carry out. Having a lot of money from big wins from gambling will make someone feel that they are superior to other people and they will start buying things that they don't really need. They can still live simply as before and the money from their big winnings can be saved for other things. They are better off using their winnings for long-term investments that can provide big profits rather than buying things they don't need. By investing, they can have a source of passive income to prepare for the future and they can still live a simple life and there will be no problems.

There is no if X then Y. Some people will feel superior to others while some people might feel the need to hoard their money even more after a big win. Human beings are individuals and make their decisions in different ways and under different circumstances. But experience has a lot to do with the course of action they may take in the future. I have the feeling that especially older people who didn't have much when they were younger tend to hoard more than others. But if you are in your 20s to 30s, have never been poor nor rich, and out of a sudden you win this lottery jackpot, I think a lot of things can go wrong.

I agree, if you are still young and manage to win that huge amount, there's a big chance that you may fall to a lot of temptation
in life, especially if you are not really use being wealthy.

Mismanaging your finances and possible of using it to something that will bring it back to any form of gambling, though chances also is possible
for responsible person to work more and grow his fortune.

It's a case to case scenarios in terms of greed and taking that big risk to add more for your money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on December 06, 2023, 01:34:53 PM
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I agree, if you are still young and manage to win that huge amount, there's a big chance that you may fall to a lot of temptation
in life, especially if you are not really use being wealthy.

Mismanaging your finances and possible of using it to something that will bring it back to any form of gambling, though chances also is possible
for responsible person to work more and grow his fortune.

It's a case to case scenarios in terms of greed and taking that big risk to add more for your money.
Such cases have happened several times, not even jackpot but just win of perhaps several thousand dollars has made them forget and become lulled into carelessness because of the desire to have fun and go beyond the limits.
They will only experience condition where the winnings will be useless and in vain because they will only be used to have fun and enjoy the nightlife with their friends.
But it natural because they are still young and still obsessed with having fun with women and also entertainment venues.

In fact, everyone has money management, it just that this management will be different depending on how much income they can earn in their work or business life.
Usually those who can only meet their living needs and standard lifestyle will have more mismanagement if they manage to get large amount of money.
Such as from winning lottery or from any prize they feel like they want to have fun like rich people by using the winning money.
Or even worse, because they have never had big win before, they feel luck is on their side and try to get the same win again and start betting bigger amounts.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: summonerrk on December 06, 2023, 01:57:24 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.

I watched so many interviews with independent gamblers - a lot of them! And for some reason, for some reason unknown to me, they always really believe that they will win back in the end. And the belief in this is unshakable, and therefore they bring bags of money into the casino with a smile, and then begin to take out loans.
At the same time, they do not have the thought that they are making things worse and worse for themselves. And when the time comes to repay old loans, these people take out new ones, and I think that they are about to recoup.
And only at later moments do some of them realize that it’s time to stop. Get a normal job and start paying off your debts


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: YOSHIE on December 06, 2023, 01:58:21 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
However, regardless of whether the betting slip really belongs to your friend or the image is saved somewhere else, it may be true or false. What is certain is that I often see the results of bets like that on various social media, betting slips like that.
For example:
https://zizihub.com/ccf794.jpg

The point is: I also think the same as you, just letting that much money sit there gambling, it seems too greedy for us, but it all comes back to each of us, It could be that your garden has a lot of cash reserves elsewhere, so he doesn't care about that money, maybe.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 06, 2023, 02:18:35 PM
Every gambler who has problems with a strong passion for betting goes through a typical path. The loss of self-control always begins with a big win, after which the gambler devalues the concept of money. He doesn't want to work anymore, he thinks he can make money gambling. After that, he loses all the winnings and starts taking on debts. After that, he makes another gross mistake: he thinks that he can recoup and close debts, but in fact he "buries" himself deeper.
This is a cycle most common with most gamblers out there, they always think gambling will definitely pay the bills especially if it turns out they have been lucky at the casino for a quiet some time, they literally become more confident in gambling than normal.

And this is how their mistakes grow till it turns out an addiction problem for them which turns out to cost them fortune especially when the start selling out their valuables and get a substitute with the mindset they they will win some day and replace that which they sold earlier to fund their gambling habit. Early winning actually causes them to become lazy because they will feel making money can be that easy.

I watched so many interviews with independent gamblers - a lot of them! And for some reason, for some reason unknown to me, they always really believe that they will win back in the end. And the belief in this is unshakable, and therefore they bring bags of money into the casino with a smile, and then begin to take out loans.
At the same time, they do not have the thought that they are making things worse and worse for themselves. And when the time comes to repay old loans, these people take out new ones, and I think that they are about to recoup.
And only at later moments do some of them realize that it’s time to stop. Get a normal job and start paying off your debts
They just want to believe in a better future that will happen in the course of their lives. Freud even said something similar: In essence, everything that he (the player in our case) thinks should happen only because he wants it. But in reality this does not happen, it is only fueled by our greed that sits inside us.

No one will explain this to these players because they simply will not listen to anyone, some of them are even obsessed with the thought of anticipation and the unknown that awaits them. The truth is that many of them will pay dearly for these feelings.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 06, 2023, 11:05:37 PM
I agree, if you are still young and manage to win that huge amount, there's a big chance that you may fall to a lot of temptation
in life, especially if you are not really use being wealthy.

Mismanaging your finances and possible of using it to something that will bring it back to any form of gambling, though chances also is possible
for responsible person to work more and grow his fortune.

It's a case to case scenarios in terms of greed and taking that big risk to add more for your money.

It could also be unexpectedly changes circumstances or it could be some smart false friends that accompany you through life because you are rich while you thought they were friends for life. All kinds of different life scenarios could happen that turn life upside down because of being rich. I guess it also depends where someone lives. But in the end slowing down when you got rich can also make sense to give oneself time to reflect on things and really come up with a plan and do some calculations. Most people dive straight into their wealth and buy everything they ever dreamt of, but it is quite easy to spend ten million in a short period of time.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 07, 2023, 05:40:25 AM
There is no if X then Y. Some people will feel superior to others while some people might feel the need to hoard their money even more after a big win. Human beings are individuals and make their decisions in different ways and under different circumstances. But experience has a lot to do with the course of action they may take in the future. I have the feeling that especially older people who didn't have much when they were younger tend to hoard more than others. But if you are in your 20s to 30s, have never been poor nor rich, and out of a sudden you win this lottery jackpot, I think a lot of things can go wrong.
If there are people who feel superior to others, that is normal, but they need to know that each person definitely has their strengths and weaknesses. Humans will definitely act according to what they can and will not do something they cannot. If they gamble in their 20s and, win a lot of money and use that money well, they will probably retire at a young age because they have succeeded in having passive income. And when they grow old, they no longer worry about anything and enjoy life well. But if that person instead uses their winnings to try to get other winnings, they are greedy because they don't understand that they have already earned a lot of money and should be able to use it for their own good. They may no longer be able to get big wins like before, especially if they are too eager to gamble.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 07, 2023, 08:24:28 AM

I think that at this point it is very important to know the basic principles of mathematics, and not to be naive. But as practice shows, most people believe that there is some kind of Universal justice, there is Luck and that everything is predetermined. But you always need to think soberly and logically - life is one big random thing. It may be unfair, and this is normal, because mathematics allows that anyone can play 100 times in a row. These are the laws of mathematics, but for some reason many people look for hidden meaning in everything.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.
Yes, it is an illusion that the players around us are more successful and luckier than us. Many people’s character doesn't allow them to live with this and they try to refute it in practice and prove to themselves and those friends that we, too, can win no worse than them. This is where greed and disproportionate risk taken come to the fore. It has long been known that people tend to believe in something better, this is inherent in nature itself. But we must turn on our reason and remember that in this world, not everything is often so good and carefree. Gambling establishments will not waste money on everyone who wants it; there will always be more losers. And we must understand this very well.

We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 07, 2023, 01:17:30 PM

I think that at this point it is very important to know the basic principles of mathematics, and not to be naive. But as practice shows, most people believe that there is some kind of Universal justice, there is Luck and that everything is predetermined. But you always need to think soberly and logically - life is one big random thing. It may be unfair, and this is normal, because mathematics allows that anyone can play 100 times in a row. These are the laws of mathematics, but for some reason many people look for hidden meaning in everything.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.
Yes, it is an illusion that the players around us are more successful and luckier than us. Many people’s character doesn't allow them to live with this and they try to refute it in practice and prove to themselves and those friends that we, too, can win no worse than them. This is where greed and disproportionate risk taken come to the fore. It has long been known that people tend to believe in something better, this is inherent in nature itself. But we must turn on our reason and remember that in this world, not everything is often so good and carefree. Gambling establishments will not waste money on everyone who wants it; there will always be more losers. And we must understand this very well.

We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
This can be briefly described in two words: “everything is relative.” We just look at all these successful and unlucky players in relation to ourselves. Looking at them all, I realized that we need to rejoice in small victories, and not expect that money will fall on us tomorrow, because we are not the chosen ones, but ordinary people. At the same time, I understand that this can happen and I know what the chances are of this happening. I've learned to enjoy the little things and that's enough for me. I completely control the greed inside me and will not allow it to open up to large volumes. At the same time, you need to balance the risk taken and not rush, because many wrong decisions are made due to haste. I think these conclusions will help someone.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 07, 2023, 05:17:09 PM
There is no if X then Y. Some people will feel superior to others while some people might feel the need to hoard their money even more after a big win. Human beings are individuals and make their decisions in different ways and under different circumstances. But experience has a lot to do with the course of action they may take in the future. I have the feeling that especially older people who didn't have much when they were younger tend to hoard more than others. But if you are in your 20s to 30s, have never been poor nor rich, and out of a sudden you win this lottery jackpot, I think a lot of things can go wrong.
If there are people who feel superior to others, that is normal, but they need to know that each person definitely has their strengths and weaknesses. Humans will definitely act according to what they can and will not do something they cannot. If they gamble in their 20s and, win a lot of money and use that money well, they will probably retire at a young age because they have succeeded in having passive income. And when they grow old, they no longer worry about anything and enjoy life well. But if that person instead uses their winnings to try to get other winnings, they are greedy because they don't understand that they have already earned a lot of money and should be able to use it for their own good. They may no longer be able to get big wins like before, especially if they are too eager to gamble.

But it is interesting how they describe on this website  (https://www.casino.org/blog/10-poker-players-who-went-broke/) that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. :)


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: FanEagle on December 07, 2023, 06:21:42 PM
if you are still young and manage to win that huge amount, there's a big chance that you may fall to a lot of temptation
in life, especially if you are not really use being wealthy.

Mismanaging your finances and possible of using it to something that will bring it back to any form of gambling, though chances also is possible
for responsible person to work more and grow his fortune.

It's a case to case scenarios in terms of greed and taking that big risk to add more for your money.
The world is filled with stories of people who won the lottery, more amount than they could ever earn working for 40 years, and they end up being poor again. This could be due to bad spending habits, this could be an issue where we are going to end up with something that would be because they do not know how they should save it and make it a life long thing.

There is also a possibility that everyone will ask for money, there are people who had to change their phone numbers due to amount of people who asked for money, I mean literally hundreds, and sometimes even thousands if you know enough people. You wouldn't want to live a life like that, there are even some lottery winners that ended up claiming their own life because of how terrible things went, I think that's an important situation to handle as well. I believe that we can't really have any sort of situation that would be a bit easier or worse, you need to consider that you need to be less greedy, and be careful.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: rachael9385 on December 07, 2023, 06:32:21 PM

I think that at this point it is very important to know the basic principles of mathematics, and not to be naive. But as practice shows, most people believe that there is some kind of Universal justice, there is Luck and that everything is predetermined. But you always need to think soberly and logically - life is one big random thing. It may be unfair, and this is normal, because mathematics allows that anyone can play 100 times in a row. These are the laws of mathematics, but for some reason many people look for hidden meaning in everything.

But sometimes players become addicted to gambling in a different way - they are unlucky on their first bets, but at the same time their friends, or one friend, are lucky. And they boast that they are smarter and much better versed in betting or roulette. And it is precisely this envy and rejection of the fact that the player himself is unlucky - he begins to play more and more, expecting that he will be lucky. But this does not happen, and then the player begins to lose money, playing first his own and then other people’s.
Yes, it is an illusion that the players around us are more successful and luckier than us. Many people’s character doesn't allow them to live with this and they try to refute it in practice and prove to themselves and those friends that we, too, can win no worse than them. This is where greed and disproportionate risk taken come to the fore. It has long been known that people tend to believe in something better, this is inherent in nature itself. But we must turn on our reason and remember that in this world, not everything is often so good and carefree. Gambling establishments will not waste money on everyone who wants it; there will always be more losers. And we must understand this very well.

We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
You have said it all and your words are absolutely correct, yes, sometimes I think about this but I letter realized that I am not the only person that is gambling and still I am not even losing more in gamble compered to other gamblers,,, besides, I am even a new time gambler because I have not being into gambling up to a year.
However, even if I calm down to calculate the whole money I have lost while gambling, I don't think it is even up to a thousand box or a half of a thousand box. I don't gamble all the time just the same way I don't win all the time, so I think I am not losing anything.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on December 07, 2023, 09:08:39 PM
We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
And it is because of this that it is a mistake to compare ourselves to other people as we will never know the circumstances behind them, so while we may see someone gambling at the casino making huge bets and having a great time, and we may even envy them for the lifestyle they are enjoying, we have no way to know that maybe they could have massive amounts of debts and they are gambling with the faint hope to resolve all their problems this way, so they may look at us and envy us as well as they would like to gamble without all that pressure on their shoulders.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 07, 2023, 11:47:54 PM
We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
And it is because of this that it is a mistake to compare ourselves to other people as we will never know the circumstances behind them, so while we may see someone gambling at the casino making huge bets and having a great time, and we may even envy them for the lifestyle they are enjoying, we have no way to know that maybe they could have massive amounts of debts and they are gambling with the faint hope to resolve all their problems this way, so they may look at us and envy us as well as they would like to gamble without all that pressure on their shoulders.

Absolutely true and depending on where you play, other players could always be fooled with marketing tricks and I think that should also not be underestimated. Being skeptical or critical of what is happening in the industry can't hurt. Yet gambling can be a pleasurable activity and you know, sometimes greed can be a good accelerator for success, but!! this is only if someone stays within the limits of one's own bankroll. Sometimes there is this situation when you think you should go for it, so why not when financially everything is under control and you might be losing the winnings, for example.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 07, 2023, 11:52:04 PM
We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
And it is because of this that it is a mistake to compare ourselves to other people as we will never know the circumstances behind them, so while we may see someone gambling at the casino making huge bets and having a great time, and we may even envy them for the lifestyle they are enjoying, we have no way to know that maybe they could have massive amounts of debts and they are gambling with the faint hope to resolve all their problems this way, so they may look at us and envy us as well as they would like to gamble without all that pressure on their shoulders.

Absolutely true and depending on where you play, other players could always be fooled with marketing tricks and I think that should also not be underestimated. Being skeptical or critical of what is happening in the industry can't hurt. Yet gambling can be a pleasurable activity and you know, sometimes greed can be a good accelerator for success, but!! this is only if someone stays within the limits of one's own bankroll. Sometimes there is this situation when you think you should go for it, so why not when financially everything is under control and you might be losing the winnings, for example.

bottomline, one should always be responsible when he is in front of his games. greed will always be there but should have frequent checks on yourself where you are at in your bankroll. it is normal to forget yourself from time to time but should not totally lose yourself in the process.

do think of the worst scenarios that you need to suffer if you will not control the greed factor in yourself. are you ready to face such scenarios? you can run those scenarios in your head and tell yourself, are you up for it? or just control yourself and be more peaceful about it as you don't need to subject yourself to trouble?


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Hirose UK on December 08, 2023, 04:20:36 AM
We actually think that people around us are luckier than us. We only think so but if we see the reality then we realize that not only those around us are lucky but we are very lucky. We can lose money by gambling but not millions of money but there are many gamblers who have lost millions of money by gambling we can call ourselves lucky considering their side. You may have millions of dollars, but my dream of making a million dollars, which is my dream, has already been lost by many gambling, and I consider them unluckier than us. If we look at those who are doing better than us, we will seem unlucky but if we look at those who are doing worse than us and failing everywhere, we will seem much luckier than us.
And it is because of this that it is a mistake to compare ourselves to other people as we will never know the circumstances behind them, so while we may see someone gambling at the casino making huge bets and having a great time, and we may even envy them for the lifestyle they are enjoying, we have no way to know that maybe they could have massive amounts of debts and they are gambling with the faint hope to resolve all their problems this way, so they may look at us and envy us as well as they would like to gamble without all that pressure on their shoulders.
Agree because comparing yourself to other people will never provide any benefits and it is better to admire yourself to be satisfied with the abilities that we can do without dependence on anyone.
Everyone conditions and situations are also different, maybe we even see people who are better than us in our personal assessment, but that person doesn't necessarily feel the same way because maybe they think otherwise.
The most important thing that must always be prioritized is that we can have performance in carrying out all our desires in gambling according to our abilities and not try to exceed the limits because we don't know what risks will occur let alone going further.
Instead of thinking about other people and being full of envy or feelings that we shouldn't think about, it better to remain ourselves and always take steps to avoid all unwanted risks.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: len01 on December 08, 2023, 07:42:20 AM
bottomline, one should always be responsible when is in front of his games. greed will always be there but should have frequent checks on yourself where you are at in your bankroll. it is normal to forget yourself from time to time but should not totally lose yourself in the process.
a gambler who has a big responsibility towards gambling will never be tempted by greed or emotions that can influence the gambler to take big risks from gambling. all of this is usually because responsible gamblers have more mature thoughts and dont expect any profit from gambling unless they just want the sensation of pleasure and if their budget runs out they will end their gambling session without having to make another deposit.

and all of this requires a high level of commitment to be a responsible gambler so as not to forget or ignore something important that must be avoided when gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 08, 2023, 07:58:46 AM
But it is interesting how they describe on this website  (https://www.casino.org/blog/10-poker-players-who-went-broke/) that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. :)
That means they can use the internet well so that it can help them recover from their defeat and turn their situation around. But they still have to be careful because greed will come back and if they don't learn self-control well, they might experience defeat like before. But with their experience playing poker, they will definitely be able to overcome all the problems that will arise and they can earn a certain income. Maybe they also learned something that we don't know so that they can return to the gambling industry and even have connections with other people who have supported them while they were hiding and continue to encourage them that they can return to gambling once they feel deep enough to learn everything.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Gozie51 on December 08, 2023, 08:13:32 AM

a gambler who has a big responsibility towards gambling will never be tempted by greed or emotions that can influence the gambler to take big risks from gambling. all of this is usually because responsible gamblers have more mature thoughts and dont expect any profit from gambling unless they just want the sensation of pleasure and if their budget runs out they will end their gambling session without having to make another deposit.


Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on December 08, 2023, 09:54:17 AM
bottomline, one should always be responsible when is in front of his games. greed will always be there but should have frequent checks on yourself where you are at in your bankroll. it is normal to forget yourself from time to time but should not totally lose yourself in the process.
a gambler who has a big responsibility towards gambling will never be tempted by greed or emotions that can influence the gambler to take big risks from gambling. all of this is usually because responsible gamblers have more mature thoughts and dont expect any profit from gambling unless they just want the sensation of pleasure and if their budget runs out they will end their gambling session without having to make another deposit.

and all of this requires a high level of commitment to be a responsible gambler so as not to forget or ignore something important that must be avoided when gambling.

The mindset of a responsible gambler tends to be that they always consider things well so that they can decide the best and avoid the risk of losing their money from gambling or other risks because most gamblers who do not have responsibility for their game. so they lose a lot of money just to chase an uncertain victory.

It's a good idea to have a good responsibility in gambling so that nothing happens that you don't want because generally everyone doesn't want to experience a loss, a person who gambles with a loss is because they themselves cannot control themselves and do not have gambling limits,  unlike people who have responsibility for gambling because they have a good mindset. So every gambler certainly has their own thoughts,  it's just that some are responsible and some are irresponsible.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Blitzboy on December 08, 2023, 11:13:08 AM
But it is interesting how they describe on this website  (https://www.casino.org/blog/10-poker-players-who-went-broke/) that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. :)
That means they can use the internet well so that it can help them recover from their defeat and turn their situation around. But they still have to be careful because greed will come back and if they don't learn self-control well, they might experience defeat like before. But with their experience playing poker, they will definitely be able to overcome all the problems that will arise and they can earn a certain income. Maybe they also learned something that we don't know so that they can return to the gambling industry and even have connections with other people who have supported them while they were hiding and continue to encourage them that they can return to gambling once they feel deep enough to learn everything.


They may be very good at using the internet, which is both good and bad. We know that the draw of the internet can feed greed, which is a constant enemy that lurks in the background. They've danced with loss; the tune is well known. So, self-control isnt just a good thing; its their shield. Their poker experience? A double bluff. It does teach you to be strong, but it also tries to trick you into thinking it will be easy to win.

Think about this: their new links, a web of unseen allies, may offer more than just support. Could they be the one's who decide who wins this game of skill and chance? We guess, but what secrets might they have? This mysterious information and these hidden ties are still parts of a puzzle we havent fully figured out.

We have to ask ourselves, though, if their return to gambling is a success or a dangerous fall back into old habits. Time and their ability to control themselves are the only things that will show them what this bet is really about.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 08, 2023, 03:11:16 PM
But it is interesting how they describe on this website  (https://www.casino.org/blog/10-poker-players-who-went-broke/) that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. :)
That means they can use the internet well so that it can help them recover from their defeat and turn their situation around. But they still have to be careful because greed will come back and if they don't learn self-control well, they might experience defeat like before. But with their experience playing poker, they will definitely be able to overcome all the problems that will arise and they can earn a certain income. Maybe they also learned something that we don't know so that they can return to the gambling industry and even have connections with other people who have supported them while they were hiding and continue to encourage them that they can return to gambling once they feel deep enough to learn everything.



But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 09, 2023, 02:16:43 AM
But it is interesting how they describe on this website  (https://www.casino.org/blog/10-poker-players-who-went-broke/) that players in poker went broke but some of them bounced back and are now back in business these days earning a lot of money. But the reason they are hiding is not that the players play so well and are professionals outplaying everyone, the reason is that most of these guys now have advertising contracts or are otherwise associated with platforms that guarantee them a certain income and probably participation fees in big tournaments. As you can see some of them would have gone broke if it wasn't for the Internet and social media to save their asses. :)
That means they can use the internet well so that it can help them recover from their defeat and turn their situation around. But they still have to be careful because greed will come back and if they don't learn self-control well, they might experience defeat like before. But with their experience playing poker, they will definitely be able to overcome all the problems that will arise and they can earn a certain income. Maybe they also learned something that we don't know so that they can return to the gambling industry and even have connections with other people who have supported them while they were hiding and continue to encourage them that they can return to gambling once they feel deep enough to learn everything.



But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.

Well, I have something very clear, and it is very similar to what I think about in trading, I say that a person considers it a professional both to a Jaguar and to a trader when he plays with close amounts or who manages amounts of $1M, the things They can be like that, and I consider them professionals, so when they are people like that who manage those amounts I consider them professionals, otherwise they can play all their lives and play every day if they want, but since they are not with those amounts or close to them, then for my it is normal, it is something that I consider that can be taken as a professional, and yes, it is not that we end up having that big money and we bet everything, no, but I think that for professional players as well as for novice players, things can be different, because in a game, we have to control our emotions, because personally, greed is very easy to fall into, the risk is always permanent in a casino.

A casino or other activity that we do will always be considered risky, in fact the mere fact that a person goes out on the street is already running a risk, the fact that a person is already playing in a casino is a higher risk, economically , so all these types of things are what we must see, if we play with greed, then the faster we will lose, we must have the desire to earn a lot of money, but according to our limits, our own abilities, because we cannot pretend that with 10, 20, 50, 100 USD we can take them to $10k, that is something that is almost Impossible, and if it can be done, it can be done, but it really is someone who has a lot to do to do it, in a casino things are not easy, every player knows it, you have to have a lot of confidence in what you do, there is no problem, On the other hand, we must see things as they are, with the appropriate way of being grounded in our reality and not looking back anymore, greed is never, risk is Always.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: klidex on December 09, 2023, 02:54:36 AM
Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.
It is true that greed and emotions are part of gambling and it is very natural if they expect a big win but never get it so greed sometimes appears at times like this and usually experienced gamblers already understand this and they will be able to control themselves so that they don't continue playing sessions that will cause emotions or when greed begins to emerge.

Someone who has lost a lot and they are carried away by emotions is very natural because humans have these feelings because you have lost a lot of money but have not made any profit at all and this is what causes emotions and greed to appear to continue the gambling session. We as gamblers should understand that gambling has a high risk of losing. If you hope too much for a big win then you will experience disappointment, but if you consider gambling as fun then you will not get emotional easily and you can set a budget according to your needs.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 09, 2023, 04:36:33 AM
They may be very good at using the internet, which is both good and bad. We know that the draw of the internet can feed greed, which is a constant enemy that lurks in the background. They've danced with loss; the tune is well known. So, self-control isnt just a good thing; its their shield. Their poker experience? A double bluff. It does teach you to be strong, but it also tries to trick you into thinking it will be easy to win.

Think about this: their new links, a web of unseen allies, may offer more than just support. Could they be the one's who decide who wins this game of skill and chance? We guess, but what secrets might they have? This mysterious information and these hidden ties are still parts of a puzzle we havent fully figured out.

We have to ask ourselves, though, if their return to gambling is a success or a dangerous fall back into old habits. Time and their ability to control themselves are the only things that will show them what this bet is really about.
If they think that winning will be easy, they are wrong because if it is a game of poker, there must be a lot of people who have become experts at playing poker and they have already beaten a lot of people. They can indeed learn from the internet, which provides many lessons about how to gamble, but they also have to learn about self-control when gambling. Self-control will protect them when gambling so that they don't spend too much money and can also limit their time gambling.

We will not know what or who has supported them so that they can rise from their previous downturn and turn their situation around for the better. But they proved it to us by managing to win many victories that perhaps only a few people could get. We also don't need to think too much about it. Let it be their secret and we should focus on maintaining our control. After all, we don't use gambling as a way to make money so we don't need to bother looking for it.

The important thing is that we stick to our goal of gambling so that we are not too affected by what is happening around us. They may be able to achieve that success with a lot of effort, but for us, it's not important because we have to control ourselves so we don't experience serious problems.

But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.
Yes, they are not immune from bankruptcy and have the possibility of experiencing bankruptcy if they lose self-control in gambling. We have seen many real examples of pro players who have lost control of themselves while gambling and that is why we have to stay away from it and avoid it so that it doesn't happen to us. If they cannot take care of themselves well, they will not be able to take care of their wealth either and will lose it in no time. They can promote these activities to attract more people to their platform as paying customers while other people are still struggling with what they are doing when it is not producing anything at all. And if we really can't afford to be a pro because the road we have to go through is very difficult, we shouldn't try it and choose to be an ordinary person.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: len01 on December 09, 2023, 05:15:55 AM
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Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.
not all wins will have a greedy impact on gamblers but such scenarios are very common and often occur in gamblers who cannot respect their own money or greed will take over an irresponsible gambler and take the risk of betting to get even more while he forgets something if luck will not come twice unless defeat will come every day.

winning will not make someone greedy as long as they have a healthy mindset and know when is the right time to gamble and advice when winning is to always remember yesterday defeat so that you are afraid of losing your money.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: carlisle1 on December 10, 2023, 12:47:15 PM
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Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.
not all wins will have a greedy impact on gamblers but such scenarios are very common and often occur in gamblers who cannot respect their own money or greed will take over an irresponsible gambler and take the risk of betting to get even more while he forgets something if luck will not come twice unless defeat will come every day.

winning will not make someone greedy as long as they have a healthy mindset and know when is the right time to gamble and advice when winning is to always remember yesterday defeat so that you are afraid of losing your money.

Yeah, the right decision at the right timing. If you have that inside you, then greed will never dominate, but like what you said, is not common.
As gamblers, they keep doing a kind of gambling where they are hoping for more luck.

Instead of controlling and taking that money out of the house, you always have that option to stop and collect your money, though
It's you as a gambler who always makes that last call.

Money or more luck to try if you choose to proceed and see what the outcome of your bets will be.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on December 10, 2023, 08:31:30 PM
But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 10, 2023, 09:01:01 PM
But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.
Professional players probably don't have greed, but they need to think about the risk of completely losing their bankroll because there are fewer and fewer amateurs. This is a risk that needs to be kept in mind. Because of this, they are forced to fight with each other and earn money through rakeback. Eventually some of them will hit a downswing. To be honest, I haven’t played poker for a long time and I don’t understand why it exists, even though I used to like this game.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: temple on December 11, 2023, 01:08:00 PM
Well, I have something very clear, and it is very similar to what I think about in trading, I say that a person considers it a professional both to a Jaguar and to a trader when he plays with close amounts or who manages amounts of $1M, the things They can be like that, and I consider them professionals, so when they are people like that who manage those amounts I consider them professionals, otherwise they can play all their lives and play every day if they want, but since they are not with those amounts or close to them, then for my it is normal, it is something that I consider that can be taken as a professional, and yes, it is not that we end up having that big money and we bet everything, no, but I think that for professional players as well as for novice players, things can be different, because in a game, we have to control our emotions, because personally, greed is very easy to fall into, the risk is always permanent in a casino.

A casino or other activity that we do will always be considered risky, in fact the mere fact that a person goes out on the street is already running a risk, the fact that a person is already playing in a casino is a higher risk, economically , so all these types of things are what we must see, if we play with greed, then the faster we will lose, we must have the desire to earn a lot of money, but according to our limits, our own abilities, because we cannot pretend that with 10, 20, 50, 100 USD we can take them to $10k, that is something that is almost Impossible, and if it can be done, it can be done, but it really is someone who has a lot to do to do it, in a casino things are not easy, every player knows it, you have to have a lot of confidence in what you do, there is no problem, On the other hand, we must see things as they are, with the appropriate way of being grounded in our reality and not looking back anymore, greed is never, risk is Always.


Right, but the problem is that we can't verify whether they are managing a lot of money. There is also the slogan "fake it till you make it", which has become very popular and prevalent especially since social networks like Instagram went through the roof. So if someone is a professional poker player because he plays all these big tournaments, but is sponsored and doesn't pay for it neither wins any big tournaments in a long time, I find it very difficult to tell whether that person is considered a professional. There are pros and cons, but seriously quite a lot of cons, which I think is a problematic as they carry a different message to the public.

I am just saying this because people shouldn't get deluded, but instead read into some basic statistics and find out for themselves whether they believe they can "professionalize" a game of luck for themselves.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on December 11, 2023, 03:44:36 PM
Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.
It is true that greed and emotions are part of gambling and it is very natural if they expect a big win but never get it so greed sometimes appears at times like this and usually experienced gamblers already understand this and they will be able to control themselves so that they don't continue playing sessions that will cause emotions or when greed begins to emerge.

Someone who has lost a lot and they are carried away by emotions is very natural because humans have these feelings because you have lost a lot of money but have not made any profit at all and this is what causes emotions and greed to appear to continue the gambling session. We as gamblers should understand that gambling has a high risk of losing. If you hope too much for a big win then you will experience disappointment, but if you consider gambling as fun then you will not get emotional easily and you can set a budget according to your needs.

Emotions and greed are most likely present in every gambler who gambles, where many of them cannot control themselves so greed and emotions arise and control them and make everything fall apart, maybe there is someone who has limits in their gambling but that doesn't allow them not to will experience greed, if they make even the slightest mistake then greed will control everything and make the game irregular where a lot of money will be lost just because greed has mastered themselves.

Yes, that's normal because everyone has both emotions and greed. Winning is difficult to get, while losing is always a factor in someone experiencing emotion and greed in gambling. We should be able to control ourselves so that these two things don't happen, because these two things can make us lose control and make everything fall apart. So, as best as possible, you have to avoid these two things so that undesirable things don't happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Oilacris on December 11, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.
Professional players probably don't have greed, but they need to think about the risk of completely losing their bankroll because there are fewer and fewer amateurs. This is a risk that needs to be kept in mind. Because of this, they are forced to fight with each other and earn money through rakeback. Eventually some of them will hit a downswing. To be honest, I haven’t played poker for a long time and I don’t understand why it exists, even though I used to like this game.
I dont think so on which greed is something that been always part of us on which there's no way that we could really be able to avoid such behavior or those kind of impulsive approach
specially when we are seeing some big money or stake then it is really just that normal for a human being to have that kind of reaction because if there's not then for sure it would really be
not that possible for us to have that kind of cold emotion specially when we do gamble. There's always that kind of feeling and emotion that comes out. In regarding on the situation
whether you should really be proceeding or not if you do see those opportunities then its up to your own decision since not all would really be sharing up with the same idea
since not all would really be risk takers and just really simply securing out those wins as much as possible.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: danadc on December 11, 2023, 06:28:50 PM
Greed or emotion is part of human being and so it is also part of gambling. Therefore, I believe even professional gambler are faced with it.

The way that the both really affect our gambling is that if you have been losing alot in a roll and you have an opportunity for a big cash out, you will be tempted to go on it with looking at your bankroll that is being bankrupted because you have been losing but if you have been winning, then you might take some irrational decisions that you get right and it looks like it is not emotion or greed. Therefore is a part that winning has an effect on the gambler, it builds more confidence and they take decision that seem right.
It is true that greed and emotions are part of gambling and it is very natural if they expect a big win but never get it so greed sometimes appears at times like this and usually experienced gamblers already understand this and they will be able to control themselves so that they don't continue playing sessions that will cause emotions or when greed begins to emerge.

Someone who has lost a lot and they are carried away by emotions is very natural because humans have these feelings because you have lost a lot of money but have not made any profit at all and this is what causes emotions and greed to appear to continue the gambling session. We as gamblers should understand that gambling has a high risk of losing. If you hope too much for a big win then you will experience disappointment, but if you consider gambling as fun then you will not get emotional easily and you can set a budget according to your needs.

Emotions and greed are most likely present in every gambler who gambles, where many of them cannot control themselves so greed and emotions arise and control them and make everything fall apart, maybe there is someone who has limits in their gambling but that doesn't allow them not to will experience greed, if they make even the slightest mistake then greed will control everything and make the game irregular where a lot of money will be lost just because greed has mastered themselves.

Yes, that's normal because everyone has both emotions and greed. Winning is difficult to get, while losing is always a factor in someone experiencing emotion and greed in gambling. We should be able to control ourselves so that these two things don't happen, because these two things can make us lose control and make everything fall apart. So, as best as possible, you have to avoid these two things so that undesirable things don't happen.
When feelings of greed appear in a casino , this is what we should avoid playing , because it is very easy to see money as paper, as something that is almost worthless at the moment, what is sought when there is greed is to have more and more , to Sometimes you can forget that a person has to have fun and that money is very important, and money is what is needed most to be able to have the best of all things to have and win, but if you don't win, you have to accept, just that.

The risk that one Runs when entering a casino is great, or one can Deny that one can Give much more when one bets big, but I do not agree with betting big when one has almost no money, because that is losing, and if a person who has almost no money starts betting on irresponsibility at its best, then it is better to abstain from many things so that they can do well and not risk anything , that's all I can think of right Now.



Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: junder on December 12, 2023, 06:28:53 AM
Emotions and greed are most likely present in every gambler who gambles, where many of them cannot control themselves so greed and emotions arise and control them and make everything fall apart, maybe there is someone who has limits in their gambling but that doesn't allow them not to will experience greed, if they make even the slightest mistake then greed will control everything and make the game irregular where a lot of money will be lost just because greed has mastered themselves.

Yes, that's normal because everyone has both emotions and greed. Winning is difficult to get, while losing is always a factor in someone experiencing emotion and greed in gambling. We should be able to control ourselves so that these two things don't happen, because these two things can make us lose control and make everything fall apart. So, as best as possible, you have to avoid these two things so that undesirable things don't happen.
When feelings of greed appear in a casino , this is what we should avoid playing , because it is very easy to see money as paper, as something that is almost worthless at the moment, what is sought when there is greed is to have more and more , to Sometimes you can forget that a person has to have fun and that money is very important, and money is what is needed most to be able to have the best of all things to have and win, but if you don't win, you have to accept, just that.

The risk that one Runs when entering a casino is great, or one can Deny that one can Give much more when one bets big, but I do not agree with betting big when one has almost no money, because that is losing, and if a person who has almost no money starts betting on irresponsibility at its best, then it is better to abstain from many things so that they can do well and not risk anything , that's all I can think of right Now.


and most of them happen like that, where they have different motives because the greed that has mastered makes their motives change, at the beginning they gamble with the intention of just looking for fun but because every round is not good results and this makes them emotional and greedy will be more aggressive with the game, and here is where their motives begin to change, making them gamble no longer for fun but to pursue big wins because they want to cover the fatigue and losses they have felt. and I'm sure this must be experienced and felt by all gamblers, even if they have limits on gambling there is a possibility that they have felt this.

I'm sure this must be experienced by all gamblers, even if they have restrictions on gambling there is a possibility that they have felt this way. and also there are still many of the gamblers who cannot accept the defeat they get, maybe they feel that it is unfair because the defeat they get doesn't make sense, but they should be ready for the risk of losing the money they have and accepting the defeat they get, don't let them not be able to accept the defeat and then make them gamble again with the assumption that they can get a big win so they can cover the defeat and loss. and also many of them don't think about the big risks involved in gambling, even though they themselves do it so they should be ready for the risks that exist.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: dexsport.io on December 12, 2023, 08:52:54 AM
We think that it depends on player's philosophy and what is better for him. Also, It's better to rely on analytics when you want to decide whether or not risk again.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: maydna on December 12, 2023, 09:02:58 PM
When feelings of greed appear in a casino , this is what we should avoid playing , because it is very easy to see money as paper, as something that is almost worthless at the moment, what is sought when there is greed is to have more and more , to Sometimes you can forget that a person has to have fun and that money is very important, and money is what is needed most to be able to have the best of all things to have and win, but if you don't win, you have to accept, just that.

The risk that one Runs when entering a casino is great, or one can Deny that one can Give much more when one bets big, but I do not agree with betting big when one has almost no money, because that is losing, and if a person who has almost no money starts betting on irresponsibility at its best, then it is better to abstain from many things so that they can do well and not risk anything , that's all I can think of right Now.
That's the point of someone having self-control because they can control themselves so they don't become greedy because that greed will follow them when they gamble. And that greed will become greater when they win so that gamblers who have self-control will not be tempted to continue gambling and will prefer to stop gambling to be able to celebrate their win. They also don't want to take the risk of losing their money if they continue gambling, so they really limit themselves to gambling. They will gamble again later but will not continue gambling that day because they feel they have gambled enough with their money and it is time to stop gambling.

Risk will also follow a person when he starts gambling. The risk of losing will be greater, along with the desire to gamble longer than usual. But if he can control himself, he can reduce the risk of losing, and that is the limitation he can place when gambling. Betting with big money will only give him the risk of losing his money, and many people are not ready for this risk, but they still decide to gamble with bigger money at stake. They think that with that big money, they can win when that is not what will happen.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on December 14, 2023, 08:44:38 PM
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.
Professional players probably don't have greed, but they need to think about the risk of completely losing their bankroll because there are fewer and fewer amateurs. This is a risk that needs to be kept in mind. Because of this, they are forced to fight with each other and earn money through rakeback. Eventually some of them will hit a downswing. To be honest, I haven’t played poker for a long time and I don’t understand why it exists, even though I used to like this game.
Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Westinhome on December 14, 2023, 09:01:14 PM

Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.

The previous history of the poker game was totally different compared to now,only the skilled people was played op poker in the previous years.But the gambler who had enough money for poker can play now by the emergence of huge gambling site now.The gamblers can able to make the huge money as the bet in poker before,but only can start the poker with less initial as of now in gambling site.

The poker had more risky one compared to the other games in the gambling site.Because the table will have the five to six users at the time,but the winner of the game will be the one person who had huge knowledge among the gamblers in that particular table.Even your friends can make many win at the time of your losses in the poker because of the easy table to them in gambling site.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 14, 2023, 09:17:59 PM
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.
Professional players probably don't have greed, but they need to think about the risk of completely losing their bankroll because there are fewer and fewer amateurs. This is a risk that needs to be kept in mind. Because of this, they are forced to fight with each other and earn money through rakeback. Eventually some of them will hit a downswing. To be honest, I haven’t played poker for a long time and I don’t understand why it exists, even though I used to like this game.
Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.
"One that is constant in life is change" is a common saying in some parts of the world if not all, there is definitely no way poker was going to stay hidden for ever as to the extent that only very few persons will know how to play the game even unto this very 21st century, I can actually say that every game we play today that is of old had a time when only a few persons knew how to play it, and when the right time came, it broke out and alot of persons learnt how to play that game, this goes to show us that, nothing stays hidden any more like in the old days when there was no internet and all.
Nowadays, we have the internet, stuffs and things, information of anything can easily be sent out to the world easily through the use of the internet, which is to say that, nothing of value stays hidden for a long time anymore, all it takes is one person posting it on the internet, and it's gone viral.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Silberman on December 17, 2023, 08:31:20 PM
Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.
"One that is constant in life is change" is a common saying in some parts of the world if not all, there is definitely no way poker was going to stay hidden for ever as to the extent that only very few persons will know how to play the game even unto this very 21st century, I can actually say that every game we play today that is of old had a time when only a few persons knew how to play it, and when the right time came, it broke out and alot of persons learnt how to play that game, this goes to show us that, nothing stays hidden any more like in the old days when there was no internet and all.
Nowadays, we have the internet, stuffs and things, information of anything can easily be sent out to the world easily through the use of the internet, which is to say that, nothing of value stays hidden for a long time anymore, all it takes is one person posting it on the internet, and it's gone viral.
Without a doubt things have changed, and while poker is way more popular than decades ago and the possibility of making more money than back then exist, the competition is so fierce now that even professional poker players are finding difficult to keep themselves profitable, as even if learning how to play poker as you should is difficult, there is a ceiling that once reached almost no one can go beyond it and they cannot improve their poker skills anymore.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: danadc on December 17, 2023, 10:29:14 PM
Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.
"One that is constant in life is change" is a common saying in some parts of the world if not all, there is definitely no way poker was going to stay hidden for ever as to the extent that only very few persons will know how to play the game even unto this very 21st century, I can actually say that every game we play today that is of old had a time when only a few persons knew how to play it, and when the right time came, it broke out and alot of persons learnt how to play that game, this goes to show us that, nothing stays hidden any more like in the old days when there was no internet and all.
Nowadays, we have the internet, stuffs and things, information of anything can easily be sent out to the world easily through the use of the internet, which is to say that, nothing of value stays hidden for a long time anymore, all it takes is one person posting it on the internet, and it's gone viral.
Without a doubt things have changed, and while poker is way more popular than decades ago and the possibility of making more money than back then exist, the competition is so fierce now that even professional poker players are finding difficult to keep themselves profitable, as even if learning how to play poker as you should is difficult, there is a ceiling that once reached almost no one can go beyond it and they cannot improve their poker skills anymore.

I think that when it comes to doing better things to have good results, you have to have some irrigation, right? because when it comes to playing in a casino, and if it's poker, it's my favorite, but currently there are no casinos that have poker games that are exciting, let alone against other people and playing against the casino, so the hopes of winning Disappear, Because I'm not one to play in a casino, but only to manage my money I like to play to win, and if I lose, that's my destiny, but not to redeem myself or say that it's just about losing.

It's not my style to go to a casino where you see that the games are impossible to win, I don't play in a casino like that, and I've seen some cases where they're just waiting to be deposited and then they forget about the player, and when they leave to withdraw they Don't work or something like that, more than anything they become a scam , is what I can say about this, greed should not exist under any scheme.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 18, 2023, 04:11:15 PM
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.
Professional players probably don't have greed, but they need to think about the risk of completely losing their bankroll because there are fewer and fewer amateurs. This is a risk that needs to be kept in mind. Because of this, they are forced to fight with each other and earn money through rakeback. Eventually some of them will hit a downswing. To be honest, I haven’t played poker for a long time and I don’t understand why it exists, even though I used to like this game.
Probably one of the worst thing that could have happened to professional poker players was the popularization of poker that took place at the beginning of this century, as back then they had a lot of amateur poker players they could take advantage of, but now almost anyone that plays poker today has read a few books about it and it is way more difficult to beat them, and even the small stakes tables are filled with professional gamblers from all over the world that are more than happy to play poker and make some money each day.
"One that is constant in life is change" is a common saying in some parts of the world if not all, there is definitely no way poker was going to stay hidden for ever as to the extent that only very few persons will know how to play the game even unto this very 21st century, I can actually say that every game we play today that is of old had a time when only a few persons knew how to play it, and when the right time came, it broke out and alot of persons learnt how to play that game, this goes to show us that, nothing stays hidden any more like in the old days when there was no internet and all.
Nowadays, we have the internet, stuffs and things, information of anything can easily be sent out to the world easily through the use of the internet, which is to say that, nothing of value stays hidden for a long time anymore, all it takes is one person posting it on the internet, and it's gone viral.

Well, poker is one of the oldest and most sought after games by people who like casinos, in fact I am one of those, but lately there are no casinos that offer a nice poker game, because mainly things when They try to do better, because they can be quick to generate money, in part, many chess players like to then venture into poker, applying all their intelligence to be able to win in this game, and it should be logical that with the knowledge of chess they will be able to These strategies help you establish a great game in poker, because you can see many scenarios that can occur, but this is very easy to see when you have little experience, and in a casino you play against a machine and it is very easy to win, since There are many players who say that this has nothing to do with it, it seems to me that it has a lot to do with it, of course it is my desire to think and what can be said about this, I could think that when there are people who do different things In casinos it is to play to win, that is why in poker you study a lot to be professionals.

And here in caunot to the professionals is when I enter into my own norm. I consider that a person is "porbelsinoal" in the game, or in trading when he plays or trades with very large sums of money, because he knows that a small movie does not entail a lot of money, that is why I say that a porbelprofesiona is a person who takes risks all the time. large amounts close to or greater than $1M, for me that is enough and I consider professional, and I am somewhat emphatic about it, but it is a truth that I consider absolute for me. The others can risk some money, little or a lot, but it can be a lot if we go to the point where we always want to win, for that you have to study a lot, have a lot of strategy, be someone who has experience in the game, it is something difficult Easy and beautiful at the same time with poker


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Docnaster on December 18, 2023, 04:32:05 PM
But the message I was trying to convey here is that the professionals as they call themselves are not immune from going broke. More importantly, they could not stay rich with their "professional" activity and instead had to resort to a different business model, namely some affiliate, marketing, influencer type of business and not the activity itself. The bad part about it is that their job is to promote that activity AS IF it would make them rich in order to get as many people as possible onto the platforms as paying customers. I am sure you understand my point, don't you? And this is why it is so important to make up one's mind before deciding to become a "pro" and earn money with gambling.
There is no doubt that there are many professional gamblers that would not have been able to keep themselves afloat without that additional income, and even some of the best players are not immune to this, so this should tell us how difficult it is to achieve that goal, however it is not surprising, as in the case of poker we know it is a game of skill, and with the increase on its popularity the level of skill of the payers has also increased, making more difficult for professional gamblers to profit from it as now everyone is playing at a higher level and they cannot take advantage of weak players anymore.

No matter how good or professional a gambler can be, there's are still chances that he's surely still go broke and that's why it is called gambling. No one knows it all in gambling and nobody can authoritatively say that since he started gambling, he's not had bad days where he losses a lot of money in gambling. There are many professional gamblers who at some time went totally broke as a result of their numerous losses in gambling but still later got back to their feet after learning from their mistakes. So no matter how professional a gambler can be, there are days where he losses but what makes them more professional than others is their ability to manage the times of losses without allowing them get the better of them unlike regular gamblers who fails to manage their emotions during those times of losses.

 
We think that it depends on player's philosophy and what is better for him. Also, It's better to rely on analytics when you want to decide whether or not risk again.
Gambling is one engagement that is full of surprises and no matter how strategic and analytical one can be, there are still chances that a gambler will still lose at the end of the day. Sometimes for gambler to win big, he must know learn how to be greedy in his decision making but that still guarantee him winnings in gambling. Risk taking and been greedy in decision making are two factors in gambling that can't be overlooked. That been said, we should always know that the commonest factor that determines people's fate in gambling is luck.


Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 18, 2023, 05:15:19 PM

No matter how good or professional a gambler can be, there's are still chances that he's surely still go broke and that's why it is called gambling. No one knows it all in gambling and nobody can authoritatively say that since he started gambling, he's not had bad days where he losses a lot of money in gambling. There are many professional gamblers who at some time went totally broke as a result of their numerous losses in gambling but still later got back to their feet after learning from their mistakes. So no matter how professional a gambler can be, there are days where he losses but what makes them more professional than others is their ability to manage the times of losses without allowing them get the better of them unlike regular gamblers who fails to manage their emotions during those times of losses.

The casino will never see or even notice your background, whether you are a casual gambler or even a professional, still if you go in and get involved with money then you will be one of the many gamblers who will feel the impact of gambling itself especially the possibility of losing or even going broke as you said. It all goes back to the original setup and concept that gambling is about probabilities and those who win are the lucky ones.

But maybe the difference is in terms of risk management, where professional gamblers they already have a lot of experience related to the world of gambling which means that he has felt a lot of things especially various situations whether it indicates something good or has the possibility of something bad happening unexpectedly. Unlike ordinary gamblers or even those who have just been involved, they do not have any experience so they do not realize if some indications for worse things happen, so they continue to get carried away and end up experiencing many bad effects, professional gamblers will emphasize more self-control and good limits gained from their own experience, and if we look in terms of loss, it is clear that usually professional gamblers will experience less loss, but still for the problem of risk will always lurk. ;)




Title: Re: Greed or risk
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 28, 2023, 01:09:52 PM
I saw this image below on one of my friend's WhatsApp statuses earlier today. I don't know if the game was played by him or if it was an image saved from somewhere, but the image got me thinking, and we got into a debate because of that.
 
I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/28/TBmu8.jpeg

OP gamblers are risk takers and also greedy people, I said this because I know of a gamble who stake a game with a little amount of about one fifty naira in my local currency, the potential profit of that stake was about four hundred and fifty thousand naira, the later give him a cashout of two hundred and fifth thousand naira he refused to cashout but unfortunately the last match cast the game, so in this case what are we going to call this person, I will say that he is a greedy person considering the amount he used in staking this game, but in this case you narrated the owner of that slip wanted to take the risk to the end because of the amount he used in staking it, for a gambling to have such mind to stake with such amount that's to tell you that he has being taking this kind of risk and is not new to him.