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Title: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: phonakAG on November 16, 2023, 09:53:16 AM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
Here's why it matters:

Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: dzungmobile on November 16, 2023, 10:15:16 AM
Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)

With newbies, they mostly don't have enough knowledge and experience to teach other newbies. I know there are outstanding newbies but it's barely seen them.
Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) is a good start for newbies if they are not shitposters and seriously want to learn, contribute and build up their career in Bitcointalk.

Searching is helpful for newbies to find information, resources, answers to learn.
[Guide] Searching effectively. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: 348Judah on November 16, 2023, 10:32:05 AM
If we are eating food, we should go for quality and not quantity, same way it is expected of us that we should learn from the standard way of making posts in which the forum expects from us, but it is more important to mske use of the forum search engine to know about topics that have already been discussed before, in other not to make repetition on them again when they are already discussed.

You can read more about posting quality from the links below

posting etiquettes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184741.0#post_altgiveaway

topic title style guide by Theymos
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102944.msg1128795#msg1128795


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: ultrloa on November 16, 2023, 10:51:50 AM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
Here's why it matters:

Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

Quantity will be worthless if majority of your post is pure garbage that's why you need to settle your posting and provide quality information or ideas that can share to the community since it will help you more to rank up rather than doing any post bursting since this is not good to read.

Also you don't need to be an expert to do that since by researching some important important can make you contribute on the discussion and that's how you became relevant to other people, that's why we should maintain good post so that you will be notice and given a merit if this is your target to help you rank up. So to other newbie thinking about how to rank up they should focus on the quality of their post rather than the numbers so that they could possibly earn what they want reach their target ranks.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: knowngunman on November 16, 2023, 11:02:01 AM
Is that the reason why you are having 9 posts and 9 activities since 2018? It's annoying seeing this type of thread coming from newbies. I believe you can not even differentiate between a good quality posts and shit posts and here you are trying to teach others.

Of course, quality definitely trumps quantity when it comes to posting in this forum. Posting quality content that's helpful and informative is much more valuable than just posting a lot of low quality content. Quality content is more likely to be merited and may also likely drive engagement and conversation. Creating quality posts also helps build your reputation as a knowledgeable and trusted forum user.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Lida93 on November 16, 2023, 11:08:43 AM
What newbies might not know is that when you continue pasting shits quality inclined forum members quickly add you to their ignore list and these are members you're supposed to learn from their knowledge when they drop a comment on your post that could model and add to your little knowledge in the forum.

Quality post is not measured by how verbose and long your writing or the message you're send is. Reemphasizing same points, notes all over again in different strokes can be so boring to a reader. It's worth noting that you make your point simple and straightforward, what's important is the message not the emphasis.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Churchillvv on November 16, 2023, 11:11:17 AM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
Here's why it matters:

Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!
Making quality post is very good it is the most advised in the forum or anywhere else but I will love to add some point to quality posting. Be impactful, do something different.
Every other person tries to make quality post but few are impactful i.e making a difference Just don't write to repeat what every order person has said but think logically and bring out more details in your post. Sometimes I check out the first page of a post almost everyone says the same thing but in different ways though it shows that the most popular answer or replies are correct but I do question myself; why repeat or paraphrase one thing. One thing is you can't give what you don't have.

Alguien podría traducir por favor?
Here we write in English but if you need translation you can go to your local board where it is written in your language there you will understand things better. Or still write in your language and translate to English or vise versa.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: FatFork on November 16, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
<snip>
In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

OP, here's another important tip: Ensure you respect the community rules!

Account connected: Naida_BR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1972523) (Profile has been Autobanned)

Contact me on Telegram @Logicrypto

You can contact me on telegram @Logicrypto


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Samlucky O on November 16, 2023, 01:26:57 PM
I think what causes the ship posting, is when you think you have know it all or feel so ashamed to ask questions rather choose to create a thread that will advise people. Higher ranked members are always ready to teach the newbies, but some newbies claim to know more by always following the crowd for people to see them as knowledgeable. were as there is no such thing.

Another thing that also cause shitposting, is that some newbies think that random posting might get people's attention and there by been merited for it. Afterwards who know were merits will come from.

lengthy post sometimes does not inply quality. Because some newbies always think lengthy post determine quality. Where as some post might just be a two lines but comes with maturity and quality.



Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: PrivacyG on November 16, 2023, 02:49:15 PM
Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.
I do not get this.  Why do they feel this urge of posting like crazy?  Why feel the need to stay relevant.  This is a Forum, not social media where every body begs for attention.  Look at this Forum as some kind of local community meeting.  You just chat and share  knowledge.

Short posts are fine too.  You do not need to write essays every single time and it could still be considered a quality post.

In fact.  Some LONG posts can be of less quality than shorter posts.  Why did you feel the need to write this thread?  We have seen hundreds, maybe thousands of similar topics.  I do not mean to be rude with you.  But did you feel the urge to do any thing to stay relevant as well?


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 16, 2023, 05:12:35 PM
Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.
Actually, these points should be followed by everyone, especially those who are in signature campaigns. I know most of the newbies make many posts so that they can't go unnoticed, and their names could appear in more topics so they will be remembered by other members. But again, like you said, we should prefer quality over quantity.

But many signature joinees are making posts just to fill post quotas and repeat others words, which is common, but in my opinion, it's not possible for all of us to have a unique mindset because even I don't read what others are saying. My way is to read the OP's point, and if I think I can contribute to his or her  point I don't ignore it and share it quickly. But after making my post, I sometimes read other people's posts too, and when I read there, they have the same meaning as mine, and posts coming after mine also have the same meaning (that's why I said it's not possible for everyone to become unique from each other).

Overall, you have shared some good points, and we all should follow them.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Hewlet on November 16, 2023, 05:22:16 PM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
Here's why it matters:

Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!
sharing advice when you are supposed to be learning is not the right way to go.  I will recommend that as I beginner you stick more with trying to figure things out rather than offering to teach others the things you are yet to master, Remember you are a newbie (please don't get me wrong, I'm writing this from a standpoint of guiding you in the right part).  Instead of trying to guide your fellow newbie on the right way to go about with there posting without even making reference to already existing post that have given a detail analysis on this, why not search out topics that will help you grow both in the forum and in making proper investments, read those topics thoroughly and if there is any doubt you would want forum members to help you clear, you then post it so all the replies you get will be of help to your growth.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Queentoshi on November 16, 2023, 05:32:47 PM
But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
It matters a lot what you post on the forum because many people are depending on the information that you share on the forum to learn. If all forum members are posting only quantity, there will be nothing to learn in this forum. I have read many worded posts that are very lengthy and could not learn anything but have read fewer words from some other people in forum and learn, it is not about the length of the post that makes it quality, it is what you write. I represent many people who get tired easily of reading a very long post that lacked a good introduction.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: SatoPrincess on November 16, 2023, 07:21:05 PM
It’s ironic that a newbie with 0 merits and little experience on the forum would be giving out advice and guides to other newbies on what is net positive for the forum. Unless ofcourse you’re not a newbie and this is an alt account.
I can’t see the quality posts you speak of in your post history which confirms to me that your post are just mere words, it will be better if you teach by actions and not words.


<snip>
In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

OP, here's another important tip: Ensure you respect the community rules!

Account connected: Naida_BR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1972523) (Profile has been Autobanned)

Contact me on Telegram @Logicrypto

You can contact me on telegram @Logicrypto
Busted!!! Any idea why he was banned in the first place?


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Upgrade00 on November 16, 2023, 07:35:16 PM
Stop thinking too hard about posts to make. Newbies have the false belief that starting threads presents a higher chance of getting merits which leads to a high number of posts like this; advising others on what to do on the forum.

Focus on learning and not teaching.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 16, 2023, 07:56:21 PM
I see what you did there mate.

You gotta relax...see all these not so good comments about you which may or may not be true can be actually demoralizing.
If you do not want them coming at you like this again, take heed to what most of them have pointed out in their replies, it will go a long way to in helping you become a better member of the community.

No more OPs for now. Okay?


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Sanitough on November 16, 2023, 07:58:32 PM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Think about it - a solid, well-thought post speaks louder than a hundred "meh" ones.
Here's why it matters:

Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

Quantity will be worthless if majority of your post is pure garbage that's why you need to settle your posting and provide quality information or ideas that can share to the community since it will help you more to rank up rather than doing any post bursting since this is not good to read.

Also you don't need to be an expert to do that since by researching some important important can make you contribute on the discussion and that's how you became relevant to other people, that's why we should maintain good post so that you will be notice and given a merit if this is your target to help you rank up. So to other newbie thinking about how to rank up they should focus on the quality of their post rather than the numbers so that they could possibly earn what they want reach their target ranks.
For beginners, I would say majority of them still want to do burst posting so they can easily release and speaks about their mind. For them, it's quantity over quality. However, as they keep on posting and keep learning at the same time through other members post, that's when they start to realize that creating  a quality post is more important than forcing yourself to do a lot of garbage post. That way, your post quality will reflect your own identity in the forum. If you are a good quality poster, you are building your own character and good reputation in the forum.

It's not only experts in the forum that are capable of making quality post. Everyone is expected to create a quality post, and the only way to make it happen is by having a diligent research before you decide to place your post. Once the content attracts and impress other members, it will easily attract merits as well because of the value of your post that leaves a huge impact in the forum.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Ndabagi01 on November 16, 2023, 08:27:58 PM
In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

Hello, Newbie. Thanks for the advice. Can you now go back and read the comments on all of your replies? This will provide you with a better understanding and conclusion on what you've just posted. Many members of the forum believe that newcomers should be learning rather than teaching. This is not to say that a novice will not be able to teach others. Try to grow and become valuable in a community about which you know nothing. Over time, and based on the quality of your posts, people will value your teachings and what you want to share here for others to learn. Your profile shows that you don't know much, so relax and learn before you try to teach others.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Issa56 on November 16, 2023, 08:28:41 PM
A beginner shouldn't be teaching, they should be learning, but it's obvious that you are not a beginner, your account has already been tagged as an alt account. It's surprising that an account that has been created since 2018 has just 9 actives, and the same account has created a thread and explained to people how to post. After being inactive since April 4, 2018, you came back to the forum on 11/16/2023, and the first thread that you created was on how to make quality post. How will you come back to the forum, and the first thing you think you should do is create a thread. Didn't you see any chances in the forum? You should be studying the forum because I am sure some things will have changed.

Am sure you created this thread just to phish for merit, but I am sorry. Don't expect any merit from the post, you have already being exposed that it's your alt account, no one will be taking your post serious, everyone believes you are just hunting for merit, you are not here to make any meaningful contribution to the forum.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: aysg76 on November 16, 2023, 09:21:46 PM
Account created in 2018 with only 9 posts and zero merit making such comments seems to be weird giving advices to all other members when he/she has not implemented it.It seems like someone just woke and plan to write in hope to get some merits through all these advices but it would work good if you first focus on learning and enhancing your knowledge.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Kasabus on November 16, 2023, 09:37:58 PM
 We are in a forum that provides more learning interaction than just creating gossips and spreading fake news. That is why we need to come up with post that are highly valuable that will bring positive effects on the learners, and that they will use it to improve their way of posting. So let's focus on quality over quantity. This is to encourage every member to acquire knowledge first and analyze the content of the post prior to posting and sharing it in the forum.  If we can follow this, this forum will provide more learning experience not just on part of the newbies but even to the veterans in the forum as well.

However, learning to create quality post does not happen all of a sudden. It takes time and will continue to develop more if we see more quality post in the forum.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: BitDane on November 16, 2023, 09:48:07 PM

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Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

I am not like this when I started my account here in the forum.  I just like browsing and reading.  I am actually hesitant to reply since I am afraid that my little knowledge is not enough to give a senseful interaction to the thread's topic.  So I carefully read every reply and post if I have enough knowledge on the topic.

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But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

Actually on my first few weeks, I never thought of this thing since I am more on reading than replying.  There are even time when I wanted to reply but found my idea has already been stated on the thread so I just refrain from repeating it. 

To those who wanted to earn merit and to rank up, it is obvious that they should prefer to make a quality posts than quantity. But I do not think that this kind of idea apply to the account who are not after a signature campaign but rather just want to have an interaction and love sharing his idea in the forum.



I do not know why so many people are hostile on newbies that are sharing his thoughts.  As long as the post make sense and help other newbies out there, I think we should not discriminate them.  They maybe a newbie account but it is possible that they know more than what we know.



OP, here's another important tip: Ensure you respect the community rules!
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But of course ban evasion is another thing...


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 16, 2023, 09:58:03 PM
That's the reasons why some of my post has got limited lettered words..
I believe the little I convey through my writings is just enough for the wise ones..
Newbie's be taking it really personal these days to post - saying this in response to what the first reply was all about...  there's time for everything ... A time to learn and a time to execute your thoughts as it'll be very helpful....

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Onyeeze on November 16, 2023, 11:17:38 PM
Basically what the forum needs is your predictions and understanding concerning bitcoin, theirs something you need to understand concerning bitcointalk kind of communication, what makes a post quality is basically depends on the research you have conducted to bring up new something that Is different from others, so I believe that is how things work's, bitcoin investment and trying make a quality posts that is attractive is base on research, because without a research you can not teach people what is obtainable and new thing they don't know, if what you post is answerable to what you have as questions that means it's a quality because you have impact knowledge on other people.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Iroh on November 16, 2023, 11:59:01 PM
Quality almost always beats quantity in everything. Why do you think products of higher quality are often more expensive then another same line of product but with lesser quality despite the both being readily available. People would always prefer quality products to one with lesser quality.

I think it’s applies to probably everything including ideas and opinions being put down here on the forum. People would be more willing to listen and learn from the few words you have to say. And like you noted, quality posts are devoid of gibberish and would be quite obvious the poster knows his onions.
It’s only natural for people to lean towards having more of quality than quantity.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: ancafe on November 17, 2023, 03:29:23 AM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!
Most of them come to the forum full of enthusiasm and are motivated by various matter to post explosively. But they forget one thing about the level of relevance regarding the posts they raise written here. I want to highlight the quality you mean because when it comes to general posts the level of quality will definitely vary according to the reader. So how do you try to see the quantity of a constructive post because when we talk on a general level there will always be a level of difference.

Quality and quantity may be areas that are difficult for us to find in general discussions because there are many discussion threads taking place there. For me, what needs to be done is to master the post so that when they write they know what is actually being discussed and can at least provide information related to the discussion being discussed in it. Constructively, quality and quantity will be assessed differently from one person to another if discussed in general.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Razmirraz on November 17, 2023, 03:42:42 AM
This is the reason merit will be given to every quality post, you will be rewarded with Merit if the post you write is considered quality. The merit system is implemented in forum to eradicate trash posts that only pursue quantity of activity to reach new rank. In the past, before the merit system was implemented in forums, there were lots of trash posts spread across various boards. Now what happens after the merit system is implemented, without trying to abandon the old habit of often making trash posts to quality posts, then you will have difficulty rank up.

Quality posts will help build the reputation of your account in the forum, when the knowledge you have is poured into the forum to benefit other users, you will be rewarded with merit and will help yourself in achieving the highest rank. Here you have to rely on yourself, only you can determine which direction to take, whether you want to immediately reach a new rank or remain a newbie forever.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Poker Player on November 17, 2023, 03:43:40 AM
Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)

It couldn't be any clearer.

Is that the reason why you are having 9 posts and 9 activities since 2018? It's annoying seeing this type of thread coming from newbies. I believe you can not even differentiate between a good quality posts and shit posts and here you are trying to teach others..

OP, here's another important tip: Ensure you respect the community rules!

Account connected: Naida_BR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1972523) (Profile has been Autobanned)

sharing advice when you are supposed to be learning is not the right way to go.

It’s ironic that a newbie with 0 merits and little experience on the forum would be giving out advice and guides to other newbies on what is net positive for the forum. Unless ofcourse you’re not a newbie and this is an alt account.

A beginner shouldn't be teaching, they should be learning, but it's obvious that you are not a beginner, your account has already been tagged as an alt account.

Consequently, OP goes on to my ignore list.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Helena Yu on November 17, 2023, 04:06:58 AM
We are in a forum that provides more learning interaction than just creating gossips and spreading fake news.
This forum adopt free speech, even you create a gossip, rumor, spread fake news, conspiracy etc the forum will not 100% delete your post, infact there might be someone like about that and willing to give you merit since merit is subjective.

Busted!!! Any idea why he was banned in the first place?
He took someone else article without providing the original source which actually contradict what he said using his alt account.

Plagiarism (copy paste).
User: Naida_BR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1972523)
Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298472.msg55787776#msg55787776
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Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Woodie on November 17, 2023, 04:42:48 AM
Is that the reason why you are having 9 posts and 9 activities since 2018? It's annoying seeing this type of thread coming from newbies. I believe you can not even differentiate between a good quality posts and shit posts and here you are trying to teach others.
Totally agree with  you, no offence to OP...you can't have this little amount of  posts even if account is 5+ years  old and act as the expert around the forum, unless it's an alt  ::) !!

Btw, If someone is going to teach/recommend something to others then let them walk the talk and not  do things based on speculation. I guess that's why dzungmobile stated in the early  posts that "Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)"  this is because experience is the best teacher that everyone agrees too.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 17, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant. But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!

I understand your point but you should also know, when you join the forum or any thing new, you have to make yourself known because when you're not known for quality it'll be somehow difficult for your post to be rewarded. There are alot of post on the forum so you have to make yours standout and you can do that with been very active and also having your posts full of quality. What I'll advise is to post as you see fit but don't spam instead of just posting one or two post and think you'll begin to get rewarded. As a newbie it is okay to not be of all quality because you're basically a learner but as you grow you should improve your quality. The need for everybody to be of quality immediately they start on the forum is why we have people plagiarizing to try to impress meriters.

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Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.

That's why I enjoy discussing with power that speaks from their thoughts and not having to drop links always or quote others thought. I believe this is a community and our conversation should be mostly of what we know and not what others are saying. I understand people get pressured to look smart and when they drop links it make them look like they know what they're doing but you can also brand yourself to be more of a users that always airs his view and they look reasonable. You don't have to adopt to others styles, if you're a users that enjoys writing, go on and do that but while you do it don't spam the forum and make your post more of quality even though you like quantity as well.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 17, 2023, 09:37:39 AM
Is that the reason why you are having 9 posts and 9 activities since 2018? It's annoying seeing this type of thread coming from newbies. I believe you can not even differentiate between a good quality posts and shit posts and here you are trying to teach others.
Exactly! Users like these tend to lecture everyone especially newbies but cant applied to themselves. A good poster or someone who understand the content of OP doesnt necessary means to pinpoint those out loud in. Its like he is already judging the newbies without proven himself first.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: itorai on November 17, 2023, 04:16:42 PM
Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)

With newbies, they mostly don't have enough knowledge and experience to teach other newbies. I know there are outstanding newbies but it's barely seen them.
Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) is a good start for newbies if they are not shitposters and seriously want to learn, contribute and build up their career in Bitcointalk.

Searching is helpful for newbies to find information, resources, answers to learn.
[Guide] Searching effectively. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)
This really helps me in getting to know this forum, I always learn and continue to learn to understand the procedures for discussing here, as a beginner I always listen to what seniors say, sometimes I make mistakes in implementation, but I always correct


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: PrivacyG on November 17, 2023, 05:19:37 PM
This is actually funny.  OP wrote a new topic hoping they will get attention and Merits but F ed up their reputation entirely instead.

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Account created in 2018 with only 9 posts and zero merit making such comments seems to be weird giving advices to all other members when he/she has not implemented it.It seems like someone just woke and plan to write in hope to get some merits through all these advices but it would work good if you first focus on learning and enhancing your knowledge.
I have lurked the forum for a long time before joining and I knew some stuff many new members do not.  So it is not weird to give advice as a new member though it does seem suspicious at first sight.

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I do not know why so many people are hostile on newbies that are sharing his thoughts.  As long as the post make sense and help other newbies out there, I think we should not discriminate them.  They maybe a newbie account but it is possible that they know more than what we know.
It is not being hostile on Newbies sharing thoughts.  OP made a topic with a reason and it is showing.  They wanted attention and / or Merits.  They received the negative attention instead.  I only do not understand why even make this kind of post.  It is weird to post such things on a simple Forum.  Imagine you had a family group on Whatsapp and all of a sudden some body writes a wall of text about how important it is to write quality messages in the group chat over quantity.

Because after all Bitcoin Talk is just that.  A board where the Bitcoin community can have an uncensored chat.  Which makes it weird to write topics as if we were some secret society accepting through rituals only or pages of a poets book instead of a simple conversational board.

And there are members here who write some helpful topics in such a beautiful way.  As if they were really writing some poetic pages of a book.  But then there are people like OP who are treating us all like some Gods or cult which is a different story.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: _BlackStar on November 17, 2023, 07:44:59 PM
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This really helps me in getting to know this forum, I always learn and continue to learn to understand the procedures for discussing here, as a beginner I always listen to what seniors say, sometimes I make mistakes in implementation, but I always correct
Release a lot of pressure and start talking about anything without needing to make yourself like someone else. You are given the right to freedom of opinion but keep it in an on-topic context and do not violate existing rules. What's more, you don't need to be shy about one or two high-reputation users even if they seem scary to you. Don't just agree and agree with many other people's opinions, but develop your ability to argue as long as it is correct regardless of who you are talking to.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Distinctin on November 17, 2023, 09:55:20 PM
The essence of creating an educative and interactive forum is to encourage each member to come up with a good and quality post so that the other members may benefit and learn valuable ideas from it.  This will only happen if all members will take their time to research first and assess the information that they have acquired whether it could be good and beneficial to others or it could create a confusion until others decide to lose interest and leave the forum.

It should be quality over quantity. It's useless to see a parade of posts where the contents are just low and sometimes off topic, than to create a powerful post that contains a very valuable and helpful idea that will encourage other members to do the same.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Hyphen(-) on November 17, 2023, 10:14:26 PM
Real Talk, Real Connections: When you drop a gem of a post, you're not just talking, you're connecting. Dive deep into discussions that light your fire - you'll build bonds that matter.
You, the Expert: Quality posts show you know your stuff. Whether it's advice or insights, be the go-to person. People notice, trust me!
Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.
Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!
You have valid points, mate. All these points you highlighted are very useful when you really want to make a quality contribution to this forum, and when you are able to follow these tips you mentioned, you will gain more knowledge in the forum and you will grow fast in the forum with quality posts.

I am sorry to say OP, but you are supposed to be using these tips you mentioned to make yourself a quality poster in this forum because if you have the knowledge you mentioned, you could have been a member or junior member of this forum; nevertheless, it is also a quality post. Keep learning and keep posting quality posts.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: The Cryptovator on November 17, 2023, 10:26:02 PM
What are you doing, actually? Because you are doing the same things that you want to prevent others from doing. I still feel you need to learn a lot of things before teaching others. Because you are still a newbie and you are trying to teach other newbies. That's not a good practice at all. I will advise all newbies: before creating a thread, just make sure it's necessary and meaningful. You aren't maintaining the quality that you are talking about. So please spend more time on the forum and learn before advising others.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Renampun on November 17, 2023, 10:43:01 PM
OP, aren't you wrong with the advice you gave while your account is a newbie lol

Newbies Stop Teaching When You Need To Learn. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456580.0)

With newbies, they mostly don't have enough knowledge and experience to teach other newbies. I know there are outstanding newbies but it's barely seen them.
Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) is a good start for newbies if they are not shitposters and seriously want to learn, contribute and build up their career in Bitcointalk.

Searching is helpful for newbies to find information, resources, answers to learn.
[Guide] Searching effectively. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)
This really helps me in getting to know this forum, I always learn and continue to learn to understand the procedures for discussing here, as a beginner I always listen to what seniors say, sometimes I make mistakes in implementation, but I always correct

hi @itorai, glad you are on this forum, I see that most of the posts you make have few words, try to provide more than 200 or 300 words (the more the better) in each of your posts because the posts are Quality can be seen from how many words are given, you must be able to improve your literacy every day, I hope you don't give up easily in continuing to improve the quality of your posts every day, here we all learn from each other.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: SamReomo on November 17, 2023, 10:56:47 PM
Hey forum family!

I am coming to this post for all new members joining here.
I want to share my advice based on what I have seen in the forum till now.

Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

In the end, this forum is like a social community so craft something awesome, something that adds value!

Oh buddy, it took you so long to post this thread because you have created your account in 2018 and you have posted this thread in final quarter of 2023. Why you are still a newbie even after knowing about this forum since 2018? I mean anyone could learn and improve their posting in that long duration but you hardly have 12 posts and in this thread you're trying to guide other newbies about the style of posting.

Just be a real person buddy and start making some good posts yourself and get ranked to a higher level before creating threads like this because such threads can misguide others as you haven't reached any good rank level yourself and you're trying to teach others about it.

Sometimes quality matter a lot but sometimes quantity doesn't mean that posts are low in quality and are posted only to increase the post count of a members. Every member has their own posting style and if we keep that in mind then some members tend to make more posts than others but those posts are good in quality while other members make less number of posts but those posts lack quality in them.

I must say that the more a member contributes the better response and appreciation he/she gets from the other members of the forum. A member who makes 10 good and helpful posts contributes more to the community than a member you posts 2 good and helpful posts.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: johnsaributua on November 17, 2023, 11:02:05 PM
Hey forum family!

Not Just Noise: Ever scroll through a thread and see a sea of "lol" and "cool"? Let's not add to the noise. Make every post count, cut through the clutter.

I saw some of your replies on the board service to apply, did you get distracted there? I don't find even in any local, that emoticons and a little joke in the thread are natural, I just focus on the important points that are discussed, imagine if it's too standard and there is no interaction, I think it's less fun and even looks like an article fight.  My assumption is that the contributors are very good at responding and ranking with their activities already symbolizing professionalism, if the same media and useful for you, try to get used to writing first from what you like, for me quality will be formed by itself with a record of speaking according to a topic and according to the discussion, of course later you will get used to it. If you think so that's your right, but if you want to improve your writing and way of thinking of course you can make better threads or mingle with other people on any board, if your language can be understood and respectful, I'm sure everyone will be very happy to invite you to learn together on this forum.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: FatFork on November 18, 2023, 11:32:24 AM
Oh buddy, it took you so long to post this thread because you have created your account in 2018 and you have posted this thread in final quarter of 2023. Why you are still a newbie even after knowing about this forum since 2018?
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"Buddy" is already gone. Won't be coming back. At least, not with this account.  ;)

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Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: KingsDen on November 18, 2023, 12:04:35 PM

Respect the Scroll: We're all busy, right? A quality post respects people's time. Keep it meaningful, and folks will stick around.

It could be that there was a time in the forum when length of post determined the quality of post. Even when we all agree that the length of post does not determine the quality of post, the length of post has a great connection to the quality post. Even the campaign managers acknowledge this in their rules.

Oh buddy, it took you so long to post this thread because you have created your account in 2018 and you have posted this thread in final quarter of 2023. Why you are still a newbie even after knowing about this forum since 2018?
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"Buddy" is already gone. Won't be coming back. At least, not with this account.  ;)

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Why was the niggy nuked. Plagerism or spamming, maybe I would want to know


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: FatFork on November 18, 2023, 01:08:54 PM

Why was the niggy nuked. Plagerism or spamming, maybe I would want to know

My guess is - ban evasion:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5474285.msg63168181#msg63168181


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Kelward on November 19, 2023, 08:11:00 PM
Better to have a quality post than a lengthy boring quantity post, in fact it bores me when I see very long posts, especially when the content is very poor. I'd rather have a post not to be too long and straight to the point, it'll be easier to assimilate, and the reader can easily make contributions without breaking too much sweat.

If a quality post has to be long, then let it have a good reason to be so, perhaps to teach something meaningful. A forum like this where we have too many topics to choose from, should have topics and conversations that are quality and not too long, so that participants in the discussion will still be energized when they leave the thread.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Viscore on November 19, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
Better to have a quality post than a lengthy boring quantity post, in fact it bores me when I see very long posts, especially when the content is very poor. I'd rather have a post not to be too long and straight to the point, it'll be easier to assimilate, and the reader can easily make contributions without breaking too much sweat.

If a quality post has to be long, then let it have a good reason to be so, perhaps to teach something meaningful. A forum like this where we have too many topics to choose from, should have topics and conversations that are quality and not too long, so that participants in the discussion will still be energized when they leave the thread.
However, it also depends on the topic itself that it sometimes requires a lengthy discussion so that all the important ideas will not be missed. But these type of topics are just rare to be seen in the forum, as mostly we need brief and precise post so that the reader will easily get the main point. Yes, its quality over quantity, but newbies seem to have hard time understanding it because they don't even know how to construct a quality post in the first place knowing their crypto knowledge is still limited.

However, everything will be learned in time. So we just need to stretch a little patience and still appreciate their lengthy post as long as its helpful in the forum.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: nakamura12 on November 19, 2023, 11:22:08 PM
This is the same as "How to plagiarize without getting banned (but actually got banned)" and "How to earn 1000 merits within a month (current meri count: 0)". This is clearly an alt account and the main account is banned since the OP account is inactive for a long time and just woke up from inactivity. Not all the time it needs to be quality because some discussions need more information or lengthy discussion before it is learned by someone.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Seinlocko on November 20, 2023, 02:43:36 AM
Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.

But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!
In many aspects, quality always comes first and takes precedence over quantity. Likewise with making posts on this forum. You can be sure that posts that will be more appreciated and useful for many people are quality posts. Because 1 quality post will definitely be more valuable than 20 posts that are not quality. So in this case it is clear that quality is more important than quantity. However, it would be even better if you could make more posts but still have quality. Because this will definitely have a very good impact on this forum and its members.

Therefore, as fellow beginners, we must put more effort into developing the knowledge we have, so that we can contribute better to this forum. Because in this forum we all discuss, of course when discussing, all members who want to take part in the discussion must have knowledge about the discussion being discussed. That way the discussions that take place will be of higher quality.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: martinex on November 20, 2023, 09:54:55 AM

But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!


Yes. That's right, at least what will be conveyed is constructive and at least has direction and meaning and is useful for yourself and others. Besides, why should it be so long when the content is empty and meaningless, it would be better to be short, concise, clear and not confusing. Oh yes, I also still need to learn a lot and I realize that there is still sky above the sky.



Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: nurilham on November 20, 2023, 07:25:32 PM
Everyone who starts an account to Bitcointalk feels the urge to post like crazy in order to stay relevant.
I don't think so.
There are some beginners who tend to be passive in the forum (rarely post) although he/she was already in the forum for a long time.
I think you're one of the examples, you only made 5 posts in 2018 (in the year you created this account) and you never posted anything in 2019-2022. You just became active again this year (2023). Why you don't have the intention to be active in posting?  :-\

But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!
Have you proven it? I think it should be proven first before you advice it to others!
To have quality posts, you need to have good knowledge. It means you need focus in learning if you are the beginners. It is because the knowledge can be acquired through learning from many sources. If you focus on teaching others, you will fail to acquire knowledge through learning process.

Anyway, quality + quantity is better than focus on quality only.




Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on November 20, 2023, 11:46:56 PM
Account created in 2018 with only 9 posts and zero merit making such comments seems to be weird giving advices to all other members when he/she has not implemented it.It seems like someone just woke and plan to write in hope to get some merits through all these advices but it would work good if you first focus on learning and enhancing your knowledge.

In my country you get something like "e shock you (are you surprised?)". It should be like you seeing such for the first time in this Forum. For someone who has 9 post like you pointed out only signify that this user has been here for long, and he's just using this new account to start up something new, if not how did he know we all have to do these things he mentioned? These advise he gave are just ok but can it be put to use by many? Some of these new members really need to read this post by the OP and try to utilize it.


Title: Re: It's better to provide Quality and not Quantity...
Post by: BRINIRHA on November 21, 2023, 05:41:38 AM

 But here's the real deal: Quality over Quantity wins every time!
Well, this is a fact that everyone should make sure to remember. But because this is a discussion forum, sometimes our activeness in interacting and being involved in a discussion is also an important point. Because we are not here only to make newspapers that publish useful news. But we are also here to share views and insights regarding a problem.

So both quantity and quality are equally important. I prefer everything to proceed in a balanced, natural and normal way. But I was really impressed with your advice. And I really have to admit that this advice really needs to be digested and utilized well by beginners. Sometimes there are even those who are not beginners but forget these important points. So your advice can also be a reminder for those who are not beginners here too.