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Title: Wishing you the best of luck in all your endeavors
Post by: hardworkinfamilyman on November 26, 2023, 05:45:28 PM
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Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: Xal0lex on November 26, 2023, 06:26:43 PM
Where did you get this information? Can you give me a link to where you found it? Because I couldn't find this information on the internet. And I would like to add that this e-mail does not belong to Satoshi Nakamoto. This has been written about many times.


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: Marvelman on November 27, 2023, 05:28:25 PM
Let me know if this is correct???!!!

What "if is correct"? Craig Wright is not Satoshi!

Where did you get that PGP public key?


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: digaran on November 29, 2023, 08:18:30 AM
What does it say, and is there any online service that can verify this? What is the message anyways, and why is it so long? Lol I can't think of any possible method to crack that key.


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: irukandji on November 30, 2023, 11:48:11 PM
What is the point of this?
What does this possibly have to do with Craig Wright?


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: gmaxwell on December 01, 2023, 12:25:29 AM
It's yet another fake.

Anyone can create a key with any name or email address they want on it.

Someone created a key here, they typed "satoshi@vistomail.com". It is not Satoshi's key, the name and email address are just entered by the user and not validated.

Then they signed a message that says "I created Bitcoin, I am Satoshi Nakamoto - Craig Wright" -- that's what the BEGIN PGP MESSAGE part decodes to.

Because they're incompetent with PGP or trying to be intentionally confusing they didn't use the clearsign option, so you have to decode the message to see the text being signed which is probably contributing to confusion. People think you need a key to decrypt it, you don't.


I'll do the same-- it only takes a moment (except I'll use the name Fakamoto). You can decode the message by running gpg -d and feeding in the "BEGIN PGP MESSAGE" block.

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
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=hpWG
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

owGbwMvMwCVmZTktNjf/ljXjmrokltzi9MTUTE1Tj9SiVIXMYoVEhZTU3HyF/DQg
qyC/JDWvJDMxJ6dSITezOCc1MSUzL12hODM9LzVFITe1uDgxPRWktCQjVaE4v6hE
obQYKJFUqRBelJmeUaKQmJcClivILy5JLVLIzAPygHaUZBQBjdLj6ihlYRDjYpAV
U2TpZ/C6y5vwU/jqmz/xMPexMoEcxsDFKQATKfBi+MPxIbutuFbE/Xbimltr2a59
NVwjEGM47cB09VePOhucwyYx/C/6KmmcfiRrWl7OOe5777dY7ZRVsbh5MeDO3d+s
bCcaH/ABAA==
=wvKj
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: irukandji on December 01, 2023, 12:27:53 AM
It's yet another fake.

Anyone can create a key with any name or email address they want on it.

Someone created a key here, they typed "satoshi@vistomail.com". It is not Satoshi's key, the name and email address are just entered by the user and not validated.

Then they signed a message that says "I created Bitcoin, I am Satoshi Nakamoto - Craig Wright" -- that's what the BEGIN PGP MESSAGE part decodes to.

Because they're incompetent with PGP they didn't use the clearsign option, so you have to decode the message to see the text being signed which is probably contributing to confusion.

thank you


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: matthewwigan on December 01, 2023, 01:49:02 PM
Greg, that was probably Craig seeing if this was robust enough to publish.  You mentioned them testing the ground with stuff like this the other day


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: nutildah on December 01, 2023, 02:17:31 PM
I'll do the same-- it only takes a moment (except I'll use the name Fakamoto). You can decode the message by running gpg -d and feeding in the "BEGIN PGP MESSAGE" block.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/01/NkYj3.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/01/NkfOw.png

Satoshi did publish a PGP key (https://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/bQ54N7i4/elopment-does-anyone-have-anything-at-all-signed-by-satoshi-s-pgp-key) but AFAIK he never signed any messages with it. It does not expire so theoretically he could come back and prove he's still around with it if he wanted to (though peeps would be rightly skeptical w/o additional proof).


Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: gmaxwell on December 02, 2023, 01:45:14 AM
Greg, that was probably Craig seeing if this was robust enough to publish.  You mentioned them testing the ground with stuff like this the other day
It's not impossible, but I thought that through before commenting.

In this case I thought it better to blow it up immediately because it was significantly less credible than fakes used by Wright already and so I thought the odds of him attempting to use this one someplace meaningful (other than an effort to cause a quick BSV spike, which this might have been) was pretty low.



Title: Re: satoshi@vistomail.com signed by Craig Wright
Post by: AndyGryffindor on December 09, 2023, 04:33:17 AM
Greg, that was probably Craig seeing if this was robust enough to publish.  You mentioned them testing the ground with stuff like this the other day

Reminds me of quote from Back to the Future... what Dave tells Linda...

“- Linda McFly: If Paul calls, tell him I'm working late at the boutique tonight.
- Dave McFly: Linda, first of all, I'm not your answering service; second of all, somebody named Greg or Craig called you just a little while ago.
- Linda McFly: Well, which one was it, Greg or Craig?
- Dave McFly: I don't know! I can't keep up of all of your boyfriends!”