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Title: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Fullbear2222 on December 01, 2023, 02:32:30 PM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: jacafbiz on December 01, 2023, 03:18:02 PM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: franky1 on December 01, 2023, 05:38:13 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
did you know that retailers/businesses look at peoples average income and nations minimum wage, to then percentage out the cost of goods affordability

EG lets say minimum wage is $15/hour and they say bread is 10% they would sell bread for $1.50

if everyone was earning an extra $3k ontop of minimum wage. it would cause prices of goods to rise

EG
$15 * 40 * 4 = $2400/month min wage + $3000UBI = $5400
$5400 / 4 / 40 = $33.75 per hour income
so bread would jump to $3.37

all goods and services would literally DOUBLE

...
mortgage companies work out a risk tolerance of a mortgage payment should be no more then 35% of monthly income
this ends up causing mortgage affordability to double. meaning real estate will see buyer of "first time buyer/affordable housing" to double
so house prices of the subsidised housing would DOUBLE


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Lanatsa on December 01, 2023, 05:55:44 PM

Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Do you really realize on how and what are the effects of this if ever government would be printing out more money? If you dont then you should be at least having some time on checking out
about some economics subject or even with the basics of it. I do agree into that earlier post that people do really love on relying their lives or really that dependent on what government could give on
without even trying to think or finding out solutions for themselves in speaking about sustainability or survival. If you do find yourself on such struggle, then you should really be needing to act
fast and wise on what are the things that you could really make it as an option.

Good plan very soon? I dont think so.. They might really be that trying to maintain peace and order and some laws about controlling price of goods and providing some jobs
but it wont really be that be enough or something that would be sufficient considering that population is really that increasing yearly on which means that they wont really be
able to cope up on what are those gaps that theyre missing. Therefore, the wisest thing to be done is to have your own ways on how you would be able to survive
or making your life way more better.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: umbara ardian on December 01, 2023, 06:04:01 PM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Are you really understanding this issue?  Handouts are not a sustainable solution to poverty. While they may provide temporary relief for some individuals, they fail to address the underlying causes of poverty and can even lead to unintended negative consequences.

The fundamental issue with relying on cash handouts as a poverty alleviation strategy is that it does not empower individuals to become self-sufficient. Without addressing the root causes of poverty, such as lack of education, limited job opportunities, and inadequate access to resources, individuals remain trapped in a cycle of dependency on external assistance.

Moreover, cash handouts can exacerbate inflationary pressures, as an influx of money without a corresponding increase in goods and services can lead to rising prices. This can disproportionately impact low-income households, further straining their budgets and eroding the purchasing power of their limited resources.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 01, 2023, 06:32:09 PM
People really spend less money on buying tickets for a movie or to watch a sport? I don't think so.

People who visit entertainment parks decreased? I don't think so.

And can list hundreds so its not worse as you are exaggerating but the economical status of people is worsening but that is not new, rich gets richer and poor gets poorer.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

Free money will not solve anything at all.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Text on December 01, 2023, 06:45:51 PM
Well, it's not always right to blame the government. You still have to take responsibility for yourself to make something good happen in your life and determine how to make progress and prosper. However, I can't blame the criticisms against the government because of anomalies, especially in handling and using public funds, and most notably, corruption, which are cancers in society.

There are existing financial assistance programs for those in need, but it seems like they are not sustainable, and beneficiaries end up relying on them as their only hope. However, this doesn't solve the problem as a whole. They should focus on long-term and permanent solutions instead of just short-term and temporary ones. The assistance they provide only lasts for a day or a few days, and it often falls short. What individuals can do is try to live within their budget and avoid spending more money than they can afford.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: electronicash on December 01, 2023, 07:03:49 PM

if there is the need to provide government will send money to the people but doing it regularly will make them dependent on such and they will just lie. The government always does this as this is their purpose as to olive under their house.

UBI as how they call this to support everyone.  a group of poor men with nothing but an empty stomach can revolt against the country and they will replace the government with martial law. its going to end up that way if the current government is not caring.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Juse14 on December 01, 2023, 07:16:17 PM
This kind of thinking makes people unable to progress and remains in the poverty line. Indeed, in terms of the social economy, the role of government is very important so that everyone can have their own welfare. but if we just stand idly by by other people, then don't hope that we can get out of this quite worrying condition. "Sometimes we always demand the rights we have to get from the state, but never think about how we can contribute to the state."


And if you can only depend on the help given by other people, this shows that you are someone who has no purpose in life and shows that you have no principles in life. Because if you have clear goals and life principles, then you will never allow yourself to be in trouble, you will always try to solve all problems and find solutions, even though it is something difficult. And if you have a sense of humanity, then you will never let other people get into trouble and always try to help other people even though you are experiencing difficulties.

And the words of the day, "If you don't care enough about yourself, how can anyone care about you"


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: topbitcoin on December 01, 2023, 07:33:54 PM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

Until when are you going to live in a state of waiting, and hoping that the government will give some money to the people for free, so that the people can improve their own economy. Fool... If we just expect the government to solve everything, when will we be able to get out of this difficult situation?

And if you believe enough that investing in krypto is quite promising and gives a big enough opportunity for you to be able to improve your own finances, then start investing in krypto from now on even though the funds collected at this time are only a little money. Because if you only wait for cash from the government, then you will never be able to invest in krypto. And in the end you will miss this opportunity.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Queentoshi on December 01, 2023, 08:24:13 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
If the government airdrops money to every person in their country, the money in a very short time will be cycled back to the people who have already made investments before. When people are given free money without any financial lecture, they will spend all the money on wants and not needs, and quickly return back to the poor state they were. Many people are in bad financial positions because they make poor financial decisions whenever they have money, not because they have never had money.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: mirakal on December 01, 2023, 08:43:04 PM
Yes, the government might have a very good plan in the future, but for sure those who are having position in the government are the one who will gain higher advantage than those regular citizens in a country. That is why never rely much on the government, they can provide our needs temporarily, not for a long period of time. Be a responsible citizen, set your goals and work on it without asking help from the government. That's the only way you will live a good life, and not putting all the blame to the government for not living a comfortable life.

However, some government are still pro citizens and they still prioritize their people more than their selfish desires.But that kind of government is rare, as mostly what we have at the present are selfish and focus on self interests and self-goals.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Obim34 on December 01, 2023, 09:41:27 PM
I see many people complaining about the government all the time, yes the government can be at fault in some cases but all the time we switch every of misfortunes to the government. The government are there to keep the economy running and balanced so the citizens can be able to meet up with their living expenses and live much comfortable.
I do not see the government as a source of income to rely on, giving free money because a person is unemployed then no body will want to work then as for the fact the government will pay me. This is a wrong idea, we are meant to go out there and start doing something for ourselves rather than being jobless and keep waiting for the government such a person will remain in abject poverty. Everyone should make his/her self well self empled and capable of sustaining themselves.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: serveria.com on December 01, 2023, 10:15:07 PM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

If you still have any illusion regarding government I can tell you: they have no plan. They don't know what they are doing. It's true for pretty much every government in the world. The best that they can do is take more loans and print more money. That is their only plan.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Y3shot on December 01, 2023, 10:34:43 PM

People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
This people you called government,  they do not have heart of conscious and if you keep on waiting for them for things to be do , you may end up wasting your time. People in government position are only there for their own selfish interests which they do not care if things are okay with the common season.  Take your mind from the government and do not hope on them ,, believing in the government that they can help can kill your dreams, can make you to be lazy which will make you not to think well to start up something.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: taufik123 on December 01, 2023, 10:55:37 PM
"Poverty Changes Society" sounds like poverty will turn people into zombies who will do anything without caring about anything.
Justify all means to get money so as not to fall into poverty.

But not all poor people feel pressured like that, in fact they also have creativity and a way out to be able to continue to survive.
There is a lot of work that can be done despite making a little money and enough to survive.

-snip-
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Today in my country it is even easier for women to find work and no poor person looks hungry because of some food aid and money from the government.

But for a plan you think of airdropping $2k-$3k without working, it's a foolish act that the government would never do.
That is a large money, It will not even solve poverty, in fact, this will make more and more people lazy.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: oktana on December 01, 2023, 11:48:53 PM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Is this not laziness? No one is coming to save you OP, how about you use that as a fuel and start some hustle. Wake up and come out of that imagination because money doesn’t grow on trees. One of the challenges I see with the idea of giving free money is that is subconsciously causes laziness, and 90% of the time, those who claim they need the money to start something will never do it but will come back tomorrow asking for more like they have all the right. Also, I don’t think that fiat causes poverty to be a reason to switch to cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: btc78 on December 02, 2023, 12:45:41 AM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again

exactly

most people in my country say that we should be thankful to the government when we are given something but the government is funded by the citizens so it’s the people’s money that is being used to and rightfully so but for some reasons people views any kind of good deed by the government as charity when in fact they should really be getting it and more



Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Fortify on December 02, 2023, 09:09:23 AM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

There is nothing unique or special about the current economic situation, in fact many will see this as good times - you have record unemployment in places like the USA and Europe. Peoples personal situation and perception can sometimes create a warped projection of what they think the world is like, but the reality does not align with what you think is happening in the world. You don't need to worry about people like landlords not being able to pay the mortgage, as they are often guilty of overstretching and they certainly aren't thinking about you. Hopefully the war in Ukraine comes to an end soon, as that would go some way to alleviating a bit of the spike because it has been highly disruptive to trade.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 02, 2023, 10:22:21 AM
       -  First of all, we don't need to depend on the government just to survive. The only thing the government can provide is a program for the people under its jurisdiction that still needs to be worked on by the people who will avail themselves of it.

It's like doing a livelihood program, a free school or scholarship for the youth, a cooperative under the government, and others that can provide help to the people. If we are strategic, we can really find a way for us to survive in reality.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: covfefe_ on December 02, 2023, 10:39:13 AM
One of the bad influence of the so called financial influencer is of taking debts without a solid plan or your income to pay them off. Calculations that the renting price is this much and with this much increase over this period and I'll pay it off is wrong, unless you have made a contract stating exactly that. And bank rates if not stated are fixed are changeable by the bank.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: hyudien on December 02, 2023, 10:47:23 AM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
In today world conditions, what you need to do is save yourself and those closest to you from the crisis. Don't depend too much on government programs because only based on certain periods, for example campaigns, the government will look good. but after that there is nothing you can expect from them. My thing is that the government is doing to improve finances as much as possible until retirement is near and they can enjoy the results. This may sound cruel, but this is the fact that the world doesn't care if you are poor unless you save yourself from that condition. Socialism is a dream and when it comes to life that is seen it is certainly not as ideal as expected.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: KiaKia on December 02, 2023, 01:25:53 PM
The problem is the people, when your people like free stuffs they become controllable, poverty is what the government wants for his people, to keep them in their control, poverty will never stop if you believe that they should be the ones solving each and every individuals problem.

What you need to do is work on yourself, solve your own problem by creating or building something, become a man of skills, it's possible, I was never raised to rely on people and I thank my parents for bringing me up this way, the only thing I benefit out of the government is right security.

Everything that has a better life opportunity is for the government itself not his people, it will be hard for them to control the masses if there are many rich people in the country, the government won't like that in any way.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: passwordnow on December 02, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
You'll have to wait until another pandemic is going to come out. How much was it that the US government airdropped to its citizens during the pandemic when most jobs were stopped and the entire world was closed and experienced it?

How long it is going for you to wait until that airdrop of money? Well, you should work your ass out if you want to have something with that kind of money because it's highly unlikely that the government is going to airdrop more money to its people. But about the printing brrrrrr sequence is likely so, there you go.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 02, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Most people, not only the people in your country but all over the world need to realize that this is not a solution to end poverty. People need to understand that being lazy, letting the government and waiting for them to make a move like giving free money or stuff to people in different communities will be the way to end our problem with money. Also, giving money to people with at least 2k-3k$ without working will only lead to the failure of the economy as it needs to create a network of market, which is us, that is composed of buyers and sellers. If all people are given free money, the economy will not work in a cycle. All will have equal money, no one will work, and goods and services will not be produced/consumed.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: gunhell16 on December 02, 2023, 03:52:41 PM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
In today world conditions, what you need to do is save yourself and those closest to you from the crisis. Don't depend too much on government programs because only based on certain periods, for example campaigns, the government will look good. but after that there is nothing you can expect from them. My thing is that the government is doing to improve finances as much as possible until retirement is near and they can enjoy the results. This may sound cruel, but this is the fact that the world doesn't care if you are poor unless you save yourself from that condition. Socialism is a dream and when it comes to life that is seen it is certainly not as ideal as expected.

If there are people who depend on the government to survive, these are the types of people who always rely on the government's help. Things are not right, and laziness is what these people are doing. We did not become citizens of a government just to be lazy and rely on the help of others.

We are too lazy to make our own way to survive; let's learn to till the soil first before planting seeds so that there will be a harvest in the future. Now, we must find out what the latest government programs are for people who need help. The government can help, but their allocation budget is limited for such things.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on December 02, 2023, 04:59:36 PM
       -  First of all, we don't need to depend on the government just to survive. The only thing the government can provide is a program for the people under its jurisdiction that still needs to be worked on by the people who will avail themselves of it.

It's like doing a livelihood program, a free school or scholarship for the youth, a cooperative under the government, and others that can provide help to the people. If we are strategic, we can really find a way for us to survive in reality.

Government are already offering numerous opportunities but the citizens of our countries are taking wrong use of it because some of them are not right person but they get rights of others. School fees are free for those who are not able to study according to their status and also scholarships are provides through which those students are getting education who are brilliant and have outstanding skills but are unable to continue their studies due to lack of money.

Government is doing much for us but as a human we always focus on that things which we lack and we are deprived of that thing but we don't remember the offers of government from which we are already taking advantage. We should not completely reliant on government but should work for ourselves because we cannot share our whole issues with government but we can understand it and solve it by ourselves.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: SmartCharpa on December 02, 2023, 05:07:02 PM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

You claimed that there is no work and that everything in your country is failing, but you are still holding onto the hope that the government will give out such amouns money to each of you. Has that ever happened in your country's history? I don't think so, especially in light of the current difficult circumstances and rising costs of products. Even though the money is given, the leaders will remove all their shares before it should reach you. Governments only think about themselves, so we shouldn't let false promises about having a plan to make things right consume our minds, they don't care how poor people live, their strategy is just for them.

If your country is struggling, you must take action to better yourself. You should not wait on the government to help you with false promises or money if you want to avoid living in poverty forever. After years of waiting, the government will finally provide you with just a small sum of money that won't even cover your monthly expenses. Relying on the government to take care of our needs is never a good idea.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: retreat on December 02, 2023, 05:21:25 PM
-snip-

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

Sorry I have to say this but giving that much money to poor people is the same as giving them drugs, the money will not solve the problem instead it will make them dependent on the aid and they will ask for more. This has happened in my country, where during Covid the average poor person would receive assistance worth 120 USD for 3 months, but instead of solving the problem, what the government did instead created a new problem where poor people asked for more to be given free rice. , free oil, etc.
So compared to money assistance like that, it is better for the government to provide access to free education, cheaper health, and more employment opportunities, that is much better.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: iv4n on December 02, 2023, 07:55:54 PM
I am sure that governments across the world have a great plan, and it will be beneficial for many politicians... especially for the ones who are in the ruling party. But when it comes to ordinary people, well those plans are not made for us. So we will stay where we are...

And $2k-$3k is maybe possible for some people who live in Western countries, but that helicopter money is making things even worse than they really are. So I guess this post is a bit sarcastic, with more money printing we will have even higher inflation... and where is the peak? Salaries are not rising as fast as inflation.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: cabron on December 02, 2023, 08:24:27 PM

Haven't you read about that "You will own nothing and be happy?" That's the plan so relax, you will be happy.
But it will also cost your freedom. That lockdowns you are saying is nothing compared to what will come. Right now you speak of something against their narrative you will be branded as part of the far-right group and call you crazy like the flat earthers.

UBI means airdrop of money and people will be begging for it due to joblessness and UBI will be sent through CBDC.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: EFS on December 02, 2023, 08:25:37 PM
Generally I agree with what you said. Everything's changed after covid-19. We have high inflation, theft and crime rates increased, migration has increased. But I don't think governments have any plan against it. They are always looking to breed more and more and increase the population. They want more labor, they don't care if people are poor. They don't think about development, they are only interested in economic growth. They don't realize the social problems they are creating. This will lead to much bigger problems in the future.
Nothing will change with the money the government will distribute. This will only increase inflation further. There have been countries that have tried this, you can see examples and results of this. It didn't have any positive effects.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on December 03, 2023, 08:04:41 AM
But governments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

That's a poor mentality there buddy, waiting for handout won't solve your problem. Pick yourself up and tell your friend or others that you know to do the same thing. I know life isn't easy but there are opportunities out there in your country that you can do to make the least to be alive and then you can save some to use to Invest in Bitcoin or other Investment that can give you good returns. If there's no opportunity in your country, learn a universal skills that can be useful in any part of the world or on the internet and look for jobs online that'll pay you for your skills or services. When things go bad for you, you don't have to keep the same mindset that you had before things went had, you have to change and look for other alternatives.

Let say the government gives you the handout that you're asking about, what happens next. What happens when that money is been exhausted, will you be expecting more handwork? And even if the government gives you more don't think they're doing you good, they aren't helping matters because they're making you guys dependant on them so they can control and use you as they want. Governments can't solve every problem and you don't have to wait on the government before you start looking for solution to your problem and that's what differentiate the success ones from the poor ones. Think differently buddy, there's no excuse to be poor again, this is the 21st century.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Marvell1 on December 03, 2023, 09:09:20 AM


But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

And what are your plans after spending all the money the government gives you? Will you continue to ask them for money and wait for their help? Will you continue to wait for their help and continue to ask them for money? Why don't we expect them to create more jobs, boost the domestic economy...from there everyone will be able to earn money and have a long-term stable life.

I know the Government has not done its role well and is pushing the country into a difficult situation. But there are also many people who have a lazy mindset, don't like to work and only wait for others to help, which also makes our society no better. You need to save yourself instead of waiting for someone else to save you.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: $anounimus$ on December 03, 2023, 09:33:53 AM
       -  First of all, we don't need to depend on the government just to survive. The only thing the government can provide is a program for the people under its jurisdiction that still needs to be worked on by the people who will avail themselves of it.

It's like doing a livelihood program, a free school or scholarship for the youth, a cooperative under the government, and others that can provide help to the people. If we are strategic, we can really find a way for us to survive in reality.
Yes it is very impossible if the government has to think of basic needs for residents, providing cash assistance while it may still be reasonable but if it continues to be done it will make residents more lazy. I agree if we only demand adequate facilities, free schools and free health costs and I think it is enough to make residents move to work.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: wiss19 on December 03, 2023, 03:01:33 PM
if there is the need to provide government will send money to the people but doing it regularly will make them dependent on such and they will just lie. The government always does this as this is their purpose as to olive under their house.

UBI as how they call this to support everyone.  a group of poor men with nothing but an empty stomach can revolt against the country and they will replace the government with martial law. its going to end up that way if the current government is not caring.
Governments must be smart enough than a regular individual and they won't be there sitting on their current positions if they aren't. And I think there is already a rule that the government will only help in rare occasions or if it's truly need like when the country or certain place have hit by a storm and other natural calamities which are intense than usual, resulting for their homes to get destroyed and worse is they can lose their life or their loved ones.

Maybe there are people who will lie only to ask money but like I said earlier, the government is smart enough to noticed it. And maybe they can give a punishment so that they won't do it again and others won't follow it.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: so98nn on December 03, 2023, 06:06:08 PM
The airdrop? Man that will cause massive inflation in the entire country leading to even worst situation than the current one. You do realise if peeps are not paying rents or bills then the government is actually getting that debt burden. If they are not able to pay the bills then they are not even in the proper tax slots. This means all the burden is getting built on the shoulders of government. Now if we are going have an airdrop then seriously it will be worst idea. In the covid stimulus packages were given because the entire world was halted at one page and it came under emergency funding too. The current situation needs push towards industries and businesses creating more employment. This will help peeps to get on their feet’s, they will pay the taxes and money circulation will stabilise the situation. I think enough with the spoon feeding stuff, it’s as nasty as easy it is.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: kryptqnick on December 03, 2023, 06:09:54 PM
I believe that the situations with jobs and rent are very different depending on a place. Some countries have a legit housing crisis, for example, but my country isn't one of them. It's really simple to find a place to rent, the rent prices are quite reasonable, and tons of people don't have to worry about rent because we're a post-Soviet country, so a bunch of people got their flats from the government a long time ago, and now either they live there or their children inherited it.
Also, while my country is in a state of war, there's no need of protection of shops by the military. Theft happens from time to time, but it's quite uncommon and supermarkets thrive, unless we're talking about areas very close to the frontlines. And again, we do have martial law, technically, because we're at war, but there's no street violence beyond the typical rare occasions, and while poverty is on the rise, it's currently estimated at 25%, which is close to the world average.
As for universal basic income, I support this idea in theory, but think that only very wealthy countries can implement them in practice because if low-income countries try it out, it's very likely going to lead to hyperinflation and an even bigger crisis.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Die_empty on December 03, 2023, 06:38:39 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Giving citizens money is not a good economic policy because it also has severe consequences. It will lead to high inflation that the government might not be able to control. Giving out money to the people will cause the currency to lose value. Other economic strategies will help citizens enjoy a better standard of living than just printing and giving money to citizens. Improving basic infrastructure, encouraging exports and creating more jobs might be better options.

I see many people complaining about the government all the time, yes the government can be at fault in some cases but all the time we switch every of misfortunes to the government. The government are there to keep the economy running and balanced so the citizens can be able to meet up with their living expenses and live much comfortable.
I do not see the government as a source of income to rely on, giving free money because a person is unemployed then no body will want to work then as for the fact the government will pay me. This is a wrong idea, we are meant to go out there and start doing something for ourselves rather than being jobless and keep waiting for the government such a person will remain in abject poverty. Everyone should make his/her self well self empled and capable of sustaining themselves.
In some countries, the government has failed to carry out its functions. How do you think citizens will survive in a country where there are no basic amenities that will attract investors and encourage entrepreneurship? There are no jobs for the common man to work and earn a living. The citizens are becoming poorer every day while politicians and their cronies are living in affluence and splendour because of corruption. Yes, we should be hardworking and diligent to escape from poverty but we will not stop blaming these corrupt government officials that have decided to make the people suffer.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: lixer on December 03, 2023, 07:08:11 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
You are building skyscrapers in the air with that thought because it's nothing more than a dream to think that governments will make a plan and airdrop at least $2,000 to every single person within their country. Even if they decide to do something like that, they wouldn't be able to do this every month, and if that's a one-time airdrop, what's the point of it? A person can barely spend 3 months with that money even if the country is a third-world country where the cost of living isn't extremely high compared to first-world countries.

It's useless to sit and wait for the government to do something to reduce your problems, every individual is responsible for their own lives and it's them who cares and not anyone else. So, you know you can't stop inflation and reduce the prices of goods, but you can work overtime or try and create multiple income streams for yourself because that's what you can do. Even if the government is wrong and isn't doing things in the right way, there is no point in blaming it because that wouldn't put bread on our table.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: rangga28 on December 03, 2023, 07:17:35 PM


But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

And what are your plans after spending all the money the government gives you? Will you continue to ask them for money and wait for their help? Will you continue to wait for their help and continue to ask them for money? Why don't we expect them to create more jobs, boost the domestic economy...from there everyone will be able to earn money and have a long-term stable life.

I know the Government has not done its role well and is pushing the country into a difficult situation. But there are also many people who have a lazy mindset, don't like to work and only wait for others to help, which also makes our society no better. You need to save yourself instead of waiting for someone else to save you.
People who do not have motivation must always blame others and always hope for mercy. Likewise with the government that will never be able to always provide cash assistance for its citizens. I am more supportive of the government through the programs offered so that we are made to think and work to be able to achieve mutual benefits. So stop lying down and immediately rose to make the family smile with our hard work. I am sure that if most people are able to work, the economy of a country will progress and prosper without expecting the mercy of the government and others.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: South Park on December 03, 2023, 08:43:04 PM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
Very well said, however for every person like you there are two or three that just want to have money handed to them and do nothing to earn it, as there is no other way to explain why we are in this situation other than those that want free stuff being way more numerous than those that just want to have the freedom to decide their own fate, and governments love it, because not only they get to keep a great deal of the wealth of the world this way, but they can also more effectively control a population that is completely dependent on them for their survival.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Iroh on December 03, 2023, 08:59:47 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

Things may have gotten worse for a lot of people especially after the lockdowns following the pandemic where people were forced to stay home and some governments helped their citizens with some money to live on since most people were forced to stay home.
It would seem some people got so used to receiving checks from the government and got less interested in working for them anymore. If the plan you want the government to implement involves giving citizens two to three thousand bucks, then that plan is flawed from the start.
We should all strive to be more responsible for ourselves and less dependent on the government and it’s bailouts.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Huppercase on December 03, 2023, 09:33:21 PM
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.

Perhaps your friend doesn't know how to do a house business, if he is I don't think any tenant will fail to meet up with their payment. An house rent is not something you have to beg tenants to pay, it's their responsibility which they have to do on their side as long they plan to stay in your place, you must pay your rent or you vacate from that apartment, is as good as that. If you don't, by law I can move you out of the room after 6 months if you refuse to pay and also move out. It's better to always have tenancy agreement signed by both parties to avoid all this kind of stories.

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Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

The government will not do that because it will take them another years to combat inflation. The last time US share $1500 relief fund for each American due to lock down was because of the hardship many people faced buts now we are back and better during the covid days mostly everyone think that the world is coming to an end.

When government print lots of money, either for a reason or not, the results they do get is high inflation and worst case is hyper inflation. When government print money, there will certainly be another long speculations around the currency.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: panganib999 on December 03, 2023, 10:08:12 PM
The thing is that, your dream of the whole planet having a universal basic income system, is completely idealistic and rather impossible given the prerequisites that you are in. You can't force an evil force to be good for the sake of being good. There has to be something in return for them to make it happen. And something as major as everyone just receiving enough money to get by without putting in any work's going to be a little too much for the government.

So yeah no, the governments wouldn't have a plan for this. They'd rather watch the planet turn to ashes rather than actually make something happen. If it doesn't make them coins, it's not going to be in their brains. Better do something and get your ass off to work then :)


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: erep on December 03, 2023, 10:50:21 PM
It would seem some people got so used to receiving checks from the government and got less interested in working for them anymore. If the plan you want the government to implement involves giving citizens two to three thousand bucks, then that plan is flawed from the start.
We should all strive to be more responsible for ourselves and less dependent on the government and it’s bailouts.
The government has provided financial assistance and other assistance to meet basic needs during the pandemic and until now assistance is still being provided, but some people are too lazy to work and still hope that government assistance will still be provided every month, but the government has stopped this assistance until the end of this year.

So they have to be prepared to look for new job vacancies but finding jobs at the moment is very difficult because they didn't take advantage of the pandemic period to get more jobs, but I think the government is giving access to private companies to recruit more local people rather than employing foreign workers.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Samlucky O on December 04, 2023, 02:45:33 AM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
I agree with you on this, the government has no future for the youth or the masses all they just need is for you to worship them abn there children as God. During time for election, they come with fake promises to leure the masses into voting wrongly with the use of food and little cash. This has been the problem of my country.  I don't see any good plan they have for us. A rich man in my state, made a statement that" if everybody is rich who will wash each other's cloth?" That was a speech made by a reputable man. That is to show that they don't have plans for us. The few that have plans has never been given an opportunity, because the people with better plan are seen as threat, and never given opportunity to express themselves.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 04, 2023, 03:28:37 AM
What can the government do? They basically don't have solutions. Whenever economic geniuses think of a solution to an existing problem on the ground, they create a new problem, because the systems followed by the government are corrupt systems that simply cannot solve any problem.

The situation may be worst in poor countries, but rich countries also have major problems that are worsening day by day, and the global economy is heading toward collapse.

There is no solution except to change these rotten minds that have controlled all governments for many years and replace them with younger ones that are able to understand the developments and needs of the times.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Marvell1 on December 04, 2023, 04:08:05 AM


But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

And what are your plans after spending all the money the government gives you? Will you continue to ask them for money and wait for their help? Will you continue to wait for their help and continue to ask them for money? Why don't we expect them to create more jobs, boost the domestic economy...from there everyone will be able to earn money and have a long-term stable life.

I know the Government has not done its role well and is pushing the country into a difficult situation. But there are also many people who have a lazy mindset, don't like to work and only wait for others to help, which also makes our society no better. You need to save yourself instead of waiting for someone else to save you.
People who do not have motivation must always blame others and always hope for mercy. Likewise with the government that will never be able to always provide cash assistance for its citizens. I am more supportive of the government through the programs offered so that we are made to think and work to be able to achieve mutual benefits. So stop lying down and immediately rose to make the family smile with our hard work. I am sure that if most people are able to work, the economy of a country will progress and prosper without expecting the mercy of the government and others.

Honestly, life is miserable, it will never be what we imagine, so instead we blame the government or anyone else. That will never help us get better, why don't we stand up and find a way to save ourselves? Don't just blame the government when we are poor, because why are there still many rich people out there and we are not?

Just like me and my friends, they have become rich and successful in life while I am still struggling compared to them. Should I blame the government or my friends when I'm not as good as them? It is better for us to save ourselves than to lie there waiting for someone else to save us.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Sebas.tian on December 04, 2023, 04:09:14 AM
Do you think government can do all those things alone, and if you look around, you will discover that the landlords are the one increasing the house rent to punish the government in a way people will begin to see the fault from the government because the government is responsible for the life and prosperities of the citizens. I don't think, the government are ready to end this hardship that is affecting people life in the various countries, because of the high price of commodities which is very important to humanity to consume every day. Good government will not be watching her people dieing in this massive inflation that is affecting the whole world than to do something that will make their country to be safe for their citizens to enjoy low price of house rent and commodities.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Baki202 on December 04, 2023, 06:43:59 AM
The thing is that, your dream of the whole planet having a universal basic income system, is completely idealistic and rather impossible given the prerequisites that you are in. You can't force an evil force to be good for the sake of being good. There has to be something in return for them to make it happen. And something as major as everyone just receiving enough money to get by without putting in any work's going to be a little too much for the government.

So yeah no, the governments wouldn't have a plan for this. They'd rather watch the planet turn to ashes rather than actually make something happen. If it doesn't make them coins, it's not going to be in their brains. Better do something and get your ass off to work then :)


The government is like a farm where insects have attacked the farm and gradually eating up its produce and that is how people in the government behave they are the insects eating up the country and eating it, and they will change because they are already obsessed with wealth and power and you can not change them because it is currently out of the country, and in some countries, all they care about is to steal and squander money kept for projects, and the only plan I see the government having is for their interest and not for its people and the record of bad government is widening and it is becoming with remedy.


What can the government do? They basically don't have solutions. Whenever economic geniuses think of a solution to an existing problem on the ground, they create a new problem, because the systems followed by the government are corrupt systems that simply cannot solve any problem.

The situation may be worst in poor countries, but rich countries also have major problems that are worsening day by day, and the global economy is heading toward collapse.

There is no solution except to change these rotten minds that have controlled all governments for many years and replace them with younger ones that are able to understand the developments and needs of the times.
it is just as if the solution they are coming up with is a problem and after everything you see analysis making different speeches on the right thing to do and even with their analysis they still don't have a solution to it, take the housing sector, for example, its a problem that the government have been seeking for a solution for years and still can not beat the number of people homeless, the best anybody can do is to get their self to engage to be able to provide for their self, and rich countries to have their challenges because in a way the country is expanding and the economy collapses is every were just that some countries are still better, the key of getting better is now in our hands.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 04, 2023, 07:22:48 AM
Governments should experiment with novel measures that alleviate economic disparities while also incentivizing productivity. Implementing targeted financial assistance programs, investing in skill development efforts, and encouraging entrepreneurship are all possible approaches. Encouraging collaboration between the commercial and public sectors to promote long-term job possibilities may also assist individuals relieve financial stress.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: bitLeap on December 04, 2023, 08:02:53 AM
Governments should experiment with novel measures that alleviate economic disparities while also incentivizing productivity. Implementing targeted financial assistance programs, investing in skill development efforts, and encouraging entrepreneurship are all possible approaches. Encouraging collaboration between the commercial and public sectors to promote long-term job possibilities may also assist individuals relieve financial stress.
Yes, I agree with what you said, but the community must also play an active role and try to support or succeed the government program. It will be useless when the government has a good program, but the community does not want to make an effort, there must be hard work from both parties for this kind of thing.
Oh yes, in running the program, the government must also be able to oversee the program, especially if it involves a large amount of money. Because when that happens, there will be people who take advantage of it for personal gain, and in the end the program that has been planned becomes stalled.
I have seen many things like that, so there must be strict supervision.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Suzume on December 04, 2023, 08:55:52 AM
In our country government is not thinking about us. Especially those who connect with cryptocurrency.  That's is illigali work in our country. If your are aware with Bangladesh crypto news then you know that what type situation the crypto guys live in Bangladesh. Government of our country not making good plan about crypto guys they are holding bamboo to give back of a crypto guys when they found.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Miles2006 on December 04, 2023, 11:35:03 AM
       -  First of all, we don't need to depend on the government just to survive. The only thing the government can provide is a program for the people under its jurisdiction that still needs to be worked on by the people who will avail themselves of it.

It's like doing a livelihood program, a free school or scholarship for the youth, a cooperative under the government, and others that can provide help to the people. If we are strategic, we can really find a way for us to survive in reality.
The word I keep hearing "we don't need to depend on the government just to survive" it's best to say we should not depend on government job to survive, they're a lot of people out there with no job or rather with no government job but they're still surviving. So we don't need government job to survive but the society needs the government attention and care, in a society where the government is feeling reluctant in every aspect how will the citizens grow, everyone will be affected either the economy system is bad or poor security, inflation etc. Both business owners, civil servants, investors will still have something to say about the economy. Creating programs and offering scholarship can't just be the solution.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Altryist on December 04, 2023, 12:28:32 PM

Honestly, life is miserable, it will never be what we imagine, so instead we blame the government or anyone else. That will never help us get better, why don't we stand up and find a way to save ourselves? Don't just blame the government when we are poor, because why are there still many rich people out there and we are not?

Just like me and my friends, they have become rich and successful in life while I am still struggling compared to them. Should I blame the government or my friends when I'm not as good as them? It is better for us to save ourselves than to lie there waiting for someone else to save us.
You will be lucky if you are born in a country with a high standard of living, then you will be able to achieve high results with less effort and, even without being rich, live with everything you need.

But I agree with you that in any country with any standard of living, there are rich and poor people, so this is a good example that we can achieve success if we take the initiative into our own hands. There are many different ways, from a good job to your own business, but it all depends only on us and we shouldn’t expect that the state should give us something, I’ve never seen this and perhaps this shouldn’t happen.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: G_Besar on December 04, 2023, 03:05:33 PM
People who do not have motivation must always blame others and always hope for mercy. Likewise with the government that will never be able to always provide cash assistance for its citizens. I am more supportive of the government through the programs offered so that we are made to think and work to be able to achieve mutual benefits. So stop lying down and immediately rose to make the family smile with our hard work. I am sure that if most people are able to work, the economy of a country will progress and prosper without expecting the mercy of the government and others.

I also agree more with what you say because the government is only keeping the country safe and implementing existing regulations by providing adequate infrastructure facilities to all communities so that ordinary people can work comfortably without any disturbance. After all, we all know that no successful person just lies in bed except someone who has built a useful platform that is used by everyone via the internet. But ordinary people who cannot develop anything must continue to work in the field they understand to support themselves and their families so they can live happily and prosperously.

The government only controls the state and other important sectors so that they are not misused by irresponsible parties so that the community certainly cannot just blame the government because the source of income from the state is also distributed to all communities through the construction of roads, irrigation and also direct cash assistance to poor people who deserve it. What's more, everyone has to work harder to make themselves rich without having to expect more help from the government or other people.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: junder on December 04, 2023, 04:22:15 PM
Governments should experiment with novel measures that alleviate economic disparities while also incentivizing productivity. Implementing targeted financial assistance programs, investing in skill development efforts, and encouraging entrepreneurship are all possible approaches. Encouraging collaboration between the commercial and public sectors to promote long-term job possibilities may also assist individuals relieve financial stress.

I agree with you, In my country the government can only promise at the beginning, and when they are elected they forget the promises they said at the beginning whether they forgot on purpose or really forgot, but it is impossible if the government really forgets its promises at the beginning, so I think the government in my country deliberately forgets its promises, because it has become a culture
also in my country if the government before being elected must be throwing his pearls of wisdom and when he was elected even forgot himself hahaha.

I just hope that the government in my country can keep their promises, or can provide more jobs for the unemployed in my country. That will help the people even if it's just by providing jobs not just with sweet promises.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Gozie51 on December 04, 2023, 04:33:43 PM

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

You can keep waiting for airdrop money while other people are struggling the little they can to survive. There are no free money, even in refugee camps people don't get that. Some people in the past prefer to be listed in refugee camps because some government and NGOs take care of them but not happening the way it was.

If you are waiting for airdrop money maybe you can wait for another pandemic like some countries were magnanimous to show financial support to their people but that is not what you need because it is not sustaining.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: GigaBit on December 04, 2023, 05:13:41 PM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
Corruption has taken people to a point from which it is difficult to return. Instead of trying to correct wrongs, people are becoming competitively interested in wrongdoing. No one is coming forward to get rid of this situation due to which the normal situation is getting worse day by day. The government is encouraging others to cover up its corruption. They do ‍any things only showing for people. If the governments in the developing and underdeveloped countries had properly managed their operations and spent the allocated budget properly, those countries would have risen to the ranks of the developed countries today. I think the government of some countries do not want to develop their country.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Suzume on December 04, 2023, 06:38:01 PM
Government of our country not making good plan about crypto guys they are holding bamboo to give back of a crypto guys when they found.


I'm quoting my own because people will think I'm agent the government of our country but not I always respect my country law but this law is creating probably of our life. They are not thinking about crypto they are always in chance to create problem in a crypto guy life. Why they don't taking tax form crypto earing and investment money. So why they are doing that. Few days ago we all are aware that bitcoin exchange his name was maybe Parvez. He was arrested for binance P2P btc transactions. So why that is we are doing any illegal act maybe yes because it's illligal but look on the other country look our beside county india their crypto is ligal sy why we ? Our government sould have to thik abou it.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: macson on December 04, 2023, 07:05:03 PM
Do you think government can do all those things alone, and if you look around, you will discover that the landlords are the one increasing the house rent to punish the government in a way people will begin to see the fault from the government because the government is responsible for the life and prosperities of the citizens.
this kind of thinking is not all wrong in my opinion, in fact the government is the party that plays politics, so it is appropriate for the government to participate in helping the lives of citizens, without good policies from the government it will be difficult for citizens to live their lives well.

Good government will not be watching her people dieing in this massive inflation that is affecting the whole world than to do something that will make their country to be safe for their citizens to enjoy low price of house rent and commodities.
inflation is something that is difficult for governments to suppress in almost all countries in the world, so good government policies will enable their citizens to live without too much difficulty.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: dunfida on December 04, 2023, 09:47:23 PM
Government of our country not making good plan about crypto guys they are holding bamboo to give back of a crypto guys when they found.


I'm quoting my own because people will think I'm agent the government of our country but not I always respect my country law but this law is creating probably of our life. They are not thinking about crypto they are always in chance to create problem in a crypto guy life. Why they don't taking tax form crypto earing and investment money. So why they are doing that. Few days ago we all are aware that bitcoin exchange his name was maybe Parvez. He was arrested for binance P2P btc transactions. So why that is we are doing any illegal act maybe yes because it's illligal but look on the other country look our beside county india their crypto is ligal sy why we ? Our government sould have to thik abou it.
Government doesnt really always like about on things which cant be controlled and as much as possible when it comes to income of its citizens they dont really like into those things which cant be controlled or something that they cant really be able to tax on which this is something that they dont really like and this is why it would be normal that they would really be taking up some measures for them to at least trying out to crack
and on how to deal up with those things into their benefit. As for government plans and whatever they're trying to do then it is really just that for the sake or benefit of its citizens on which it is good
but there are really decisions or things which it turns out to be that negative.

Also, as an individual then it wouldn't really be always wise that you should really be that relying yourself into whatever plans that they do have. We can make our lives way
more better and more enhance on simply trying out to make those plans and things that we are tending to do. Dont rely for some aid
or for some backups or the things being provided most of the time.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Taskford on December 04, 2023, 10:08:24 PM
Government of our country not making good plan about crypto guys they are holding bamboo to give back of a crypto guys when they found.


I'm quoting my own because people will think I'm agent the government of our country but not I always respect my country law but this law is creating probably of our life. They are not thinking about crypto they are always in chance to create problem in a crypto guy life. Why they don't taking tax form crypto earing and investment money. So why they are doing that. Few days ago we all are aware that bitcoin exchange his name was maybe Parvez. He was arrested for binance P2P btc transactions. So why that is we are doing any illegal act maybe yes because it's illligal but look on the other country look our beside county india their crypto is ligal sy why we ? Our government sould have to thik abou it.
Government doesnt really always like about on things which cant be controlled and as much as possible when it comes to income of its citizens they dont really like into those things which cant be controlled or something that they cant really be able to tax on which this is something that they dont really like and this is why it would be normal that they would really be taking up some measures for them to at least trying out to crack
and on how to deal up with those things into their benefit. As for government plans and whatever they're trying to do then it is really just that for the sake or benefit of its citizens on which it is good
but there are really decisions or things which it turns out to be that negative.


But actually they find ways to control any crypto related activity. They have those platforms operating on their country so they can implement something like KYC or other more just to control the platform or even the people using it. Perfect example is the latest happening on binance in Philippines where in span of 3 months this exchange will not be accessible to anyone and those who promote it on that country will face a penalty. That's why we can't really say now that government doesn't have any control since they can do what they want especially if they like to ban bitcoin or other thing what they like on their country.

Taxation is now not a problem since they find a solution to do it maybe for now they didn't ask anything from crypto user, but sooner or later they can implement a automatic tax deduction on the local wallets we use and they can make that happen since they can create a law about it.



Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: KennyR on December 04, 2023, 10:54:34 PM
What had been said in the opening post is happening around the world. What needs to be the prime way to overcome, corruption need to be stopped. The rich bribe officers and they get their works done on time. There is no need of gifting, but the rich does just because they have. Next time a poor goes to the same officer, he expects something and the person won't be in a situation to give him bribe. Here the poor one's work doesn't get done at the time. I don't say this is happening with every person, but quite commonly we can see this everywhere. Governments engage in large scale corruption, so they never look into this. As said moving to cryptocurrency is a good plan, but people won't unite together easily.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Y3shot on December 04, 2023, 11:21:58 PM
This time we are is very difficult,  by now we should have forgotten about the government now because they can't even do nothing instead things are even getting worse,  I think it will be better if we stop depending on job for the government.  This is a time people needs to be strong and be independent,  having the mentality of being independent helps alot it comes with a great energy to provide for yourself. I believe we are in the  time people can survive without government job.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: rojan on December 05, 2023, 07:46:58 AM
Corruption has taken people to a point from which it is difficult to return. Instead of trying to correct wrongs, people are becoming competitively interested in wrongdoing. No one is coming forward to get rid of this situation due to which the normal situation is getting worse day by day. The government is encouraging others to cover up its corruption. They do ‍any things only showing for people. If the governments in the developing and underdeveloped countries had properly managed their operations and spent the allocated budget properly, those countries would have risen to the ranks of the developed countries today. I think the government of some countries do not want to develop their country.
There are governments of some countries who have brought the country to a bad state with the thought of looting and eating. If the government of a country is corrupt, it is not possible for the citizens of this country to be honest.  It cannot be big but temporary happiness and peace will not last long. Just as the government has a role behind the development of a country, the citizens of the country must have integrity, then it is possible for a country to develop.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Suzume on December 05, 2023, 02:54:58 PM
Government of our country not making good plan about crypto guys they are holding bamboo to give back of a crypto guys when they found.


I'm quoting my own because people will think I'm agent the government of our country but not I always respect my country law but this law is creating probably of our life. They are not thinking about crypto they are always in chance to create problem in a crypto guy life. Why they don't taking tax form crypto earing and investment money. So why they are doing that. Few days ago we all are aware that bitcoin exchange his name was maybe Parvez. He was arrested for binance P2P btc transactions. So why that is we are doing any illegal act maybe yes because it's illligal but look on the other country look our beside county india their crypto is ligal sy why we ? Our government sould have to thik abou it.
Government doesnt really always like about on things which cant be controlled and as much as possible when it comes to income of its citizens they dont really like into those things which cant be controlled or something that they cant really be able to tax on which this is something that they dont really like and this is why it would be normal that they would really be taking up some measures for them to at least trying out to crack
and on how to deal up with those things into their benefit. As for government plans and whatever they're trying to do then it is really just that for the sake or benefit of its citizens on which it is good
but there are really decisions or things which it turns out to be that negative.


But actually they find ways to control any crypto related activity. They have those platforms operating on their country so they can implement something like KYC or other more just to control the platform or even the people using it. Perfect example is the latest happening on binance in Philippines where in span of 3 months this exchange will not be accessible to anyone and those who promote it on that country will face a penalty. That's why we can't really say now that government doesn't have any control since they can do what they want especially if they like to ban bitcoin or other thing what they like on their country.

Taxation is now not a problem since they find a solution to do it maybe for now they didn't ask anything from crypto user, but sooner or later they can implement a automatic tax deduction on the local wallets we use and they can make that happen since they can create a law about it.




Yes but government should look at the crypto users. Because look on the other imporove county they ligalized crypto in their country and cryptocurrency played a provital role in their economy. But you can see our government didn't ligalized crypto in our country maybe reason is us because all are aware with our economical condition money laundering is coming. Government can't countrol the crypto transaction  if crypto ligalized in our country then those who lounder money they will take this way for money lounging. Maybe that's the reason government are strict in this side.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Chilwell on December 05, 2023, 05:00:50 PM
What had been said in the opening post is happening around the world. What needs to be the prime way to overcome, corruption need to be stopped. 
 As said moving to cryptocurrency is a good plan, but people won't unite together easily.
As you stated, corruption must be stopped, but how can we fight corruption when those who would control it are also participating? It sometimes confuses me that corruption begins from the grass roots, but I doubt it since the grass roots people lack the necessary skills to be involved in corruption. Corruption starts at the top because they have the money to do it, so the people who will prevent it are the ones encouraging it. If a rich person is charged with corruption and it requires prosecution, they will find a way to dismiss the case, but if a son or daughter of nobody, they will prosecute and give them the punishment they deserve. In my opinion, the simplest method to avoid corruption is to charge the rule of law, stating that no one is above the law.
As cryptocurrency government will not like to legalise it because it will effect their economy.

This time we are is very difficult,  by now we should have forgotten about the government now because they can't even do nothing instead things are even getting worse,  I think it will be better if we stop depending on job for the government.  This is a time people needs to be strong and be independent,  having the mentality of being independent helps alot it comes with a great energy to provide for yourself. I believe we are in the  time people can survive without government job.
This does not require any lecture at all because we all see how the government fails every day with their promises, failing in our educational activities, and things getting worse by the day. I believe that we should have known without anyone telling us that relying on government is a big trap we set for ourselves because we will never be independent and will continue to be caged. In my country, we have over 300 million people and civil servants number up to 10 million, including all security officers, and the government still owes these individuals some of their pensions. Do you still want to rely on government with this analysis if you subtract 10 million from 300 million?


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 05, 2023, 05:44:32 PM
Strong people create good times, good times create hard times, hard times create strong people, and strong people create good times and with this the circle is complete. We are facing these problems because we are used to luxury and we have created a hard time. But it is still not to the extreme. When it becomes extreme, people will come forward and take action. We are weak and we can't do anything about it. That's why the governments are taking advantage of this situation.

Good days will come again for sure. But we may not be there to see it.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: sana54210 on December 05, 2023, 06:42:21 PM
Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
I think we DO need government to survive. Doesn't mean that there isn't some theory out there where we can possibly build it, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with something that will benefit us, so we should be careful about what we do and should be something that will be quite decent.

I understand it is not all that crazy and we need to end up with a solution that will benefit us, but that is not going to change much, it is going to end up being careful and not all that easy. I get that it is something that will not be all that profitable if we let ourselves to the government because of taxation and even corruption, but there is an established idea that is working so far, so we should respect that along with everyone in the community.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on December 05, 2023, 06:50:33 PM
Well, it's not always right to blame the government. You still have to take responsibility for yourself to make something good happen in your life and determine how to make progress and prosper.

You are right. Normally, as a citizen, you need to have backup, whether there’s government is a job or not, because the government cannot sustain us. Whatever the administration wants to do, people must blame them. So as citizens, the government only needs to try its best to do things that are compulsory for its citizens to be able to prevent certain things, but as citizens, we don’t always need to blame the government. Because if we say we will always wait for government, seriously, many things will not be accomplished in our lives, and those who we are blaming won’t even know our existence, so we are the ones that plan our lives, and we are the ones that are supposed to find a way to implement those plans.

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However, I can't blame the criticisms against the government because of anomalies, especially in handling and using public funds, and most notably, corruption, which are cancers in society.

We all know governments have a crucial role to play and many administrations failed to do so, and there are things that are obviously not going well for the citizens, so things like that, we can’t blame anyone if they complain about their government because, like corruption you mentioned now, it is one of the things that affects people in society. It is very bad for someone to spend many years studying in school, and at the end of the day, these people go back to the street to earn a living, which is very bad, and all this is happening due to corruption. When they say you must get money before you get a job and you are from a poor family, you can see that such person will stay jobless or go back to stress.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Myleschetty on December 05, 2023, 11:32:09 PM
If I understand you're waiting or hoping the exact people (government) who are the major source of the problem to have a good plan very soon? Do you think they care when they are being controlled by a powerful organization that benefits from their act of war?
It is the people that need to create the change the world needs just like how Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin to implement a change of relying on centralized organization and limitation of border-to-border payment.






Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: STT on December 05, 2023, 11:49:19 PM
Governments arent there to give money or provide jobs directly, thats a certain kind of thinking which does not lead to riches usually.   Good governance is providing the ability for others to create jobs and earn money, there is no free when it comes to giant government initiatives it must be all be paid for ironically it costs more because of the gigantic waste and inefficiency to most governments.    If you ever worked for government local or national you probably a good idea of what Im talking about in that the ideal and reality are polar opposites most of the time; large government programs are most often the most costly solution out there.  In theory of course I love free money like anyone else but for an entire nation and economy I'd hope we'd avoid it as the first option to any recovery hopes etc.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: barisbilgili on December 06, 2023, 04:46:48 AM
This time we are is very difficult,  by now we should have forgotten about the government now because they can't even do nothing instead things are even getting worse,  I think it will be better if we stop depending on job for the government.  This is a time people needs to be strong and be independent,  having the mentality of being independent helps alot it comes with a great energy to provide for yourself. I believe we are in the  time people can survive without government job.
Having your own job will indeed make a person's life freer than working for the government where there are many rules that must be obeyed, because everyone who works for the government of course must be able to work in accordance with all the rules set by the government, for some people who choose to be independent and don't expect work from the government, of course this will make their lives freer and also allow them to work according to their needs. If you want a lot of income, of course you have to be able to work harder than you already do to be able to get the income you want. he wanted.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Xampeuu on December 06, 2023, 07:32:10 AM
This time we are is very difficult,  by now we should have forgotten about the government now because they can't even do nothing instead things are even getting worse,  I think it will be better if we stop depending on job for the government.  This is a time people needs to be strong and be independent,  having the mentality of being independent helps alot it comes with a great energy to provide for yourself. I believe we are in the  time people can survive without government job.
Having your own job will indeed make a person's life freer than working for the government where there are many rules that must be obeyed, because everyone who works for the government of course must be able to work in accordance with all the rules set by the government, for some people who choose to be independent and don't expect work from the government, of course this will make their lives freer and also allow them to work according to their needs. If you want a lot of income, of course you have to be able to work harder than you already do to be able to get the income you want. he wanted.
The advantage of working alone rather than working for the government is that we can manage ourselves, but we also have to be responsible for ourselves, unlike those who want a safe path, it is better to work for the government, but indeed wealth can be calculated. Therefore, the difference between the two is each person's mentality, not necessarily whether people choose all efforts or vice versa


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: naira on December 06, 2023, 08:08:07 AM
Do you think government can do all those things alone, and if you look around, you will discover that the landlords are the one increasing the house rent to punish the government in a way people will begin to see the fault from the government because the government is responsible for the life and prosperities of the citizens.
this kind of thinking is not all wrong in my opinion, in fact the government is the party that plays politics, so it is appropriate for the government to participate in helping the lives of citizens, without good policies from the government it will be difficult for citizens to live their lives well.

Good government will not be watching her people dieing in this massive inflation that is affecting the whole world than to do something that will make their country to be safe for their citizens to enjoy low price of house rent and commodities.
inflation is something that is difficult for governments to suppress in almost all countries in the world, so good government policies will enable their citizens to live without too much difficulty.

I agree with you, if you are not ready to be criticized then don't be a government. It is their duty to provide answers to the complaints that society is currently feeling. People naturally demand what is rightfully theirs because they have given their trust and voice. Society now seems to be the scapegoat, the victim of politics that only cares about individuals and groups. As a citizen, I will definitely do the same thing, demanding that the government be responsible for its vision and mission. If you do not like these demands, step down from your position. The government is the people's representative, in other words, it is a bridge to realize the people's needs above personal needs.

Despite all that, politics is still politics, nothing is truly clean and in the end people feel dissatisfied with the existing system.

should society demand that they not depend on government programs? ridiculous because this statement only provides a way for the government to escape its responsibilities. The government is still the government and its job is to serve us. Like it or not, that's the law and the rules.

But every time we see it it's upside down!


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 06, 2023, 11:05:56 AM
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But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.

Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
The government has failed a lot of people, and this is what we get if we are selecting leaders based on popularity and richness. The world is in disarray now, especially for those living in poor countries, they feel it the worst, things are turning upside down and the government has done nothing about it. Mind you, I do not think that the government has the right clue about it, not in many countries, but in the majority of them. All they know is to experiment on the country, steal money, live luxurious lifestyles and leave to transfer the same to the coming government, and the process goes on like that. We are all tired of this but I don't think there can be a solution unless there is a change of heart and attitude where people in government are selfless and wise.

But thanks to cryptocurrency and other investment opportunities, they are limiting the suffering of many and I urge people to involve in them more no matter how little it is. This can reduce their poverty or change their stories forever. Not that they will be waiting for the government that doesn't care about them.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: icalical on December 06, 2023, 03:30:35 PM
I believe all these bad economic was still the effect of the pandemic, I also think that most governments already planned some economic policy to recover from the economic downturn during the pandemic. But then lately the geopolitic is very dynamic, many big event happened, and all these surprising event mess with the governments plans. The first thing is we need a stable geopolitic environment only then we can plan a good economic policies and action.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Renampun on December 06, 2023, 04:58:18 PM
Strong people create good times, good times create hard times, hard times create strong people, and strong people create good times and with this the circle is complete. We are facing these problems because we are used to luxury and we have created a hard time. But it is still not to the extreme. When it becomes extreme, people will come forward and take action. We are weak and we can't do anything about it. That's why the governments are taking advantage of this situation.

Good days will come again for sure. But we may not be there to see it.

What you say is true, strong people can definitely face every difficult condition that occurs, without caring about the things provided by the government, but in the field, strong people are only a small part, most of society is very dependent on the government. but what is certain is that the government is the person elected by the citizens, they must be able to run the wheels of government in a country well, don't let the salaries they receive, they just enjoy without a big sense of responsibility to the citizens.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Hewlet on December 07, 2023, 10:03:43 AM

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
how long will you use this before poverty come knocking at the door again? This is what the government have discovered about the poor that has constantly hardened their minds towards them. They know that the poor man is mostly after money that if you give him a small amount of money, he will shut his mouth up and refuse demanding fit his rightfully entitlement.

It is the duty of the government to provide jobs for the populace and it's not supposed to be a situation where they pay you certain amount of money to shut you up from speaking out the truth.

What tiu should have been demanding is that they train the youth or set up programmes that will see to it that the youth receive the required training that will make them employable and not the case of looking out for money at the detriment of a serious and demanding financial crisis that is ravaging the land.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: slapper on December 07, 2023, 02:09:47 PM
It's clear that renters are affected by people who are having money problems. What if this problem spurs a wave of people learning about money? Imagine that people learned how to budget, trade, and make different kinds of money by having to. As the saying goes, "necessity makes you creative," and financial problems often lead to new ideas and ways of running the economy. The role of the government and UBI are hard to understand. The UBI might save lives, but where does the money come from? More printing can make the money worth less. We're just barely fair, right? Along with teaching people about money, targeted tax policies that help small businesses and create jobs might be the answer. People can get fish from us or learn how to fish from us. We also provide the pond and make it easy for people to get to


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on December 07, 2023, 06:18:49 PM

Well, it's not always right to blame the government. You still have to take responsibility for yourself to make something good happen in your life and determine how to make progress and prosper.
it's crucial to realize that waiting for the government to take care of everything isn't a recipe for success in life. We are all capable of improving our own lives by taking action. People may experience wonderful experiences if they follow particular steps. It is OK to hold the government responsible for some things that go wrong in our lives, but not all of them. We have the ability to choose well and provide ourselves with opportunities. So let's take action to succeed and improve our lives rather than only depending on the government.

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However, I can't blame the criticisms against the government because of anomalies, especially in handling and using public funds, and most notably, corruption, which are cancers in society.

In all honesty, governments are simply embezzling money that should be used for the public good; they are not actually trying to manage public funds. They are aware of the misery people endure, but they still don't feel sorry for the general populace. Therefore, it is accurate to condemn the government for its corrupt practices because it is not carrying out its mandate.
 


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Essential10 on December 09, 2023, 04:11:33 AM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
In the society I live in I see such incidents quite often and I am used to seeing them. I think also look for opportunities to improve skills and education so that they increase their chances of finding better job opportunities. Look for ways to create alternative sources of income, such as starting a small business or investing in assets that can provide long-term financial stability. While the government has a role to provide aid and assistance when needed, individuals also have a responsibility to take control of their own lives and make the necessary changes to improve their financial situation. It is the combination of private efforts and government support that can lead to meaningful and sustainable progress for everyone. It can be easy to blame the government, but taking personal responsibility and finding solutions is ultimately more empowering. But this can be costly for most countries in terms of government financial support, discourage work and lead to inflation.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Adreman23 on December 09, 2023, 04:56:23 AM

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
It may be challenging to expect a government payout of $2000-$3000 unless there's a significant crisis limiting people's mobility, like a pandemic. However, it's important to recognize that ubi could be a potential solution during extraordinary circumstances, providing a temporary safety net. It's crucial to balance such initiatives with a thoughtful consideration of economic impacts, as prolonged reliance on ubi could potentially lead to inflation due to an excess of fiat money in circulation.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Mauser on December 09, 2023, 09:58:31 AM
But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.

Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
   

This sounds like the plan some business owners have, who are expecting AI to take over the workforce eventually. There won't be enough jobs for all people, so the government has to provide a basic income to cover all needs of the people without a job. This would have to be financed through taxes, which doesn't seem realistic at the current state of the world economy. Only a few rich countries would actually be able to pull it off, and the majority of countries would need to rely on debt to take care of all their citizens. With debt levels already being so high for many countries, I don't see much room to make the universal income feasible at the moment.  Crypto currencies are a good way to try and generate some income at the side, protected from government interference. But for that we would actually need money to start trading and investing. Without any savings it's really hard to build a decent crypto portfolio that will grow large over time. The only thing we can do is to vote for the party that is the most likely to help the little man and push for universal income.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Raceonsucced on December 09, 2023, 04:09:58 PM
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
I try to understand and pay attention to what you say. In recent years the economy has not been going well, not just one or two people but many people have experienced this in the face of economic uncertainty and unexpected events.

The government's good plan to stabilize the economy is not an easy step to implement and takes time.
Opinion: According to my analysis all of this happened as a result of prolonged conflict and ended in war.
Solution: In my opinion the only way to stabilize the global economy is to end war because its impact is extraordinary, because war also damages the world's ecosystem.
PEACE: although peace can be realized, I noticed that there are so many repairs that need to be reorganized that it requires quite a large amount of funds to repair them.

So, in my opinion peace is the right solution to restore the world economy, so that many parties experience prosperity and make the world economy stable again.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Manny@11111 on December 09, 2023, 04:44:47 PM
The issue is more complex than what you think and most of your solutions are not really sustainable in this economy. You need to understand the state of economy and what drives it & the political system because they work hand-in-hand. Bulk of our economic problem here is over reliance $$ by the way we handle our crude and other mineral resources that accounts for more than 65% of dollar impact on the economy.
To my understanding greed drives our politics here and that has bastardized our economy, more reason why giving handouts will be cornered by some self centered people in government and at the end will be counter productive
To elevate the economy we need to shift to a producing & exporting nation that we used to be in the 70s and that has to be a conscious effort from  people at the top that will trickle down to individuals. Also, a wasteful nation can not grow and to curb our free fall economy people at the top have to really play their part by reducing cost of governance to save money that can be channel into kick-starting the economy in the right direction like Agriculture, genuine fixing of refinery and local productions of what we use. When all these are done cost of living will reduce and citizen will enjoy dividend of democracy not what what we practice now that is the government of the rich for the rich.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Obari on December 09, 2023, 08:02:47 PM
It's clear that renters are affected by people who are having money problems. What if this problem spurs a wave of people learning about money? Imagine that people learned how to budget, trade, and make different kinds of money by having to. As the saying goes, "necessity makes you creative," and financial problems often lead to new ideas and ways of running the economy. The role of the government and UBI are hard to understand. The UBI might save lives, but where does the money come from? More printing can make the money worth less. We're just barely fair, right? Along with teaching people about money, targeted tax policies that help small businesses and create jobs might be the answer. People can get fish from us or learn how to fish from us. We also provide the pond and make it easy for people to get to
Amazing ideas brought to limelight by @slapper, I've reasoned and welcome such developmental innovations which I'm pretty sure it will push for significant movements. The government have cared for the citizens and not today, they're planning for prominent future, one of the major reasons behind them leading and instructing new budgets that seems to become legit and promising, is because they're the government and will absolutely not settle for any low class budgets which doesn't deem fit for the country. The Government have mapped out the require biddings for its citizens.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Silberman on December 09, 2023, 08:16:14 PM
But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.

Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
   

This sounds like the plan some business owners have, who are expecting AI to take over the workforce eventually. There won't be enough jobs for all people, so the government has to provide a basic income to cover all needs of the people without a job. This would have to be financed through taxes, which doesn't seem realistic at the current state of the world economy. Only a few rich countries would actually be able to pull it off, and the majority of countries would need to rely on debt to take care of all their citizens. With debt levels already being so high for many countries, I don't see much room to make the universal income feasible at the moment.  Crypto currencies are a good way to try and generate some income at the side, protected from government interference. But for that we would actually need money to start trading and investing. Without any savings it's really hard to build a decent crypto portfolio that will grow large over time. The only thing we can do is to vote for the party that is the most likely to help the little man and push for universal income.

Some very interesting times are ahead of us, AI is a disruptor with a magnitude we have never seen before, since even if technology has always replaced some jobs, it also generated new ones, AI really has the potential to replace most jobs and generate a minuscule amount that will be on high demand and low supply, so figuring out how to make the economy work under that new model will be incredibly hard, and it will not surprise me if different models were tried and failed during the next decades.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 09, 2023, 09:21:51 PM
But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income
Do you want to wait till eternity for the government to begin to airdrop 2k-$3k to every citizen? If yes than expect to grow white bears before that happens.

The job the government owes its citizens is to provide basic amenities, and security,  create employment and build industries for them, anything apart from that will be like a special offer given to a particular set of people and it is only but a few of its citizens that are opportune to get such favors from the government and it is not for ordinary citizens who don't have the right connection. Aside from that, is he who works that gets paid. How do you expect a government these days would give its citizens such huge money when they are complaining about a bad economy affecting the growth of the country?

You better rethink what you are expecting from the government of your country to do for its citizens and start working for your own good because government don't airdrop just huge money like that without someone working or meriting it


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Tuclikk on December 11, 2023, 02:02:52 PM
i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

Op this is must a wrong turn because is the lazy one's who do expect something from someone, but ideally your vote also count for politicians and worst aspect is for to stay aside by not doing something is better to even engage yourself into something new that will help you 


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: harapan on January 29, 2024, 03:25:48 PM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
The government provides the legal and social framework within which the economy operates,and takes certain actions to stabilize the economy.In other words,the governments is not responsible to guarantee you the life you deserve or the life you ought to live by.
 Many persons are still living in that mentality instead of you to work and create the life you deserve you are comfortably relying on the
government to hand it over as a certificate..government has no role  in telling people how to live,its all up to you to create your best life and be in it.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: wtsimis on January 29, 2024, 04:59:48 PM
Where there is corruption, the systems will be corrupt. Basically what can a government do?
If the entire organization is corrupt then the government will have nothing to do. Basically no solution yet, except change. Work has to be done to stabilize the economy by creating a social framework and legal framework. Which both government and people have to understand.
The world economy is slowly collapsing. The economies of both rich countries and poor countries are heading towards collapse. Which narrows our future.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Baki202 on January 29, 2024, 05:48:13 PM
Well, it's not always right to blame the government. You still have to take responsibility for yourself to make something good happen in your life and determine how to make progress and prosper. However, I can't blame the criticisms against the government because of anomalies, especially in handling and using public funds, and most notably, corruption, which are cancers in society.

There are existing financial assistance programs for those in need, but it seems like they are not sustainable, and beneficiaries end up relying on them as their only hope. However, this doesn't solve the problem as a whole. They should focus on long-term and permanent solutions instead of just short-term and temporary ones. The assistance they provide only lasts for a day or a few days, and it often falls short. What individuals can do is try to live within their budget and avoid spending more money than they can afford.
We know the government are cruel but we can not always blame them we are also responsible for one thing or the other when it comes to the affair of the country. Our leaders have turned there selfes to slave for money so they are not thinking straight but even at that. We all will also continue to play a big role in the politics of our society. And to some extent we should be responsible for our life and not he fully dependent on the government and that is why when it comes election the people have already sold there self to the politicians and that is why they can not really do anything about the government.

Corruption as eaten deep that it longer don't have a cure and if them the politicians can not help their self but to join in the corruption and that is why it is spreading like wild fire and the best any one can do no is to help their and get busy and look for means to sustain their selfes in the country. And see a lot of NGO trying to create programs just to help people get out of poverty. And a permanent solution is going to be hard because trying to solve a particular problem and another one is coming out of nowhere so the thing and the truth is that people need to realize that they are responsible for their selfes. If not the number of poverty will continue to increase.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Vinaa77 on January 29, 2024, 08:58:25 PM
Where there is corruption, the systems will be corrupt. Basically what can a government do?
If the entire organization is corrupt then the government will have nothing to do. Basically no solution yet, except change. Work has to be done to stabilize the economy by creating a social framework and legal framework. Which both government and people have to understand.
The world economy is slowly collapsing. The economies of both rich countries and poor countries are heading towards collapse. Which narrows our future.
The system of corruption in government will not be able to develop the community's economy well and the community will really feel the impact of corrupt government management, every development carried out by a corrupt government is always not optimal because they will think about how to get benefits from the government. and to make changes to a corrupt system, it is very difficult to do if you only rely on the field of preventing corruption. It is necessary to make educational efforts from an early age both in families and schools to be able to educate the new generation who must realize that this culture of corruption is very detrimental to many people and who only benefit from the system. Corruption is just a group of people who commit corruption. If the younger generation can be educated about the dangers of corruption, I think this culture of corruption will slowly disappear.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: _BlackStar on January 29, 2024, 09:18:53 PM
Where there is corruption, the systems will be corrupt. Basically what can a government do?
If the entire organization is corrupt then the government will have nothing to do. Basically no solution yet, except change. Work has to be done to stabilize the economy by creating a social framework and legal framework. Which both government and people have to understand.
The world economy is slowly collapsing. The economies of both rich countries and poor countries are heading towards collapse. Which narrows our future.
The government always has good plans to make things better - but in practice they also always encounter many obstacles that make those plans fail. I agree that corrupt governments will never fix everything - but they will only make things worse because of their bad missions. There are many challenges and obstacles that make many governments in every country fail to meet the expectations of all their people - but the best thing for every individual to think about is don't depend on the government, be independent.

The government will not be able to keep all its citizens happy - even if they promise that during the campaign. Sometimes it is unfair to blame the government for all its weaknesses - but we need to have an independent mindset so that we are not 100% dependent on government policies that benefit us.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Casalania on January 29, 2024, 11:04:35 PM
Where there is corruption, the systems will be corrupt. Basically what can a government do?
If the entire organization is corrupt then the government will have nothing to do. Basically no solution yet, except change. Work has to be done to stabilize the economy by creating a social framework and legal framework. Which both government and people have to understand.
The world economy is slowly collapsing. The economies of both rich countries and poor countries are heading towards collapse. Which narrows our future.
The government always has good plans to make things better - but in practice they also always encounter many obstacles that make those plans fail. I agree that corrupt governments will never fix everything - but they will only make things worse because of their bad missions. There are many challenges and obstacles that make many governments in every country fail to meet the expectations of all their people - but the best thing for every individual to think about is don't depend on the government, be independent.

The government will not be able to keep all its citizens happy - even if they promise that during the campaign. Sometimes it is unfair to blame the government for all its weaknesses - but we need to have an independent mindset so that we are not 100% dependent on government policies that benefit us.
I agree that people should not always be dependent on the government. The government cannot provide for all citizens' daily needs. We cannot wait for the government to make a move for us, as nothing will happen in our lives unless we take the first step.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: ichsan ardi on January 29, 2024, 11:26:48 PM
Anyone who you know know someone who don't have money no Jobs.
People cant afford the housing cant pay bills and goverment just watching no actions.
It's all falling down the landlords soon can't pay utilities becouse of rent debts.
I have friend who use to rent out apartments and now he can't collect Even rent money people don't that have coused Him problems and he have to sell his second car but even with low price hard to sell car.
Things going bad shops around the world just put prices up to cover stolen funds people steal from the shops like never before soon all the shops must be protected by military.
Anyone knows plans how to make us normal again the property time like was covid19 when Money and wealth was normal thing.
World is very close to martial law when military will secure streets police not enough becouse poverty change people

But this not what we use to we are use to with Luxury and good life people don't Understood how to live If wealthy life is not the essence.


Only way will be unite and trust each others If elite dont start support people average people can collect their own funds and use cryptocurrency If fiat system falling.

But goverments should have some plan i wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income

It's true that the government has a good plan, but if we don't want to change ourselves to become rich, we are the most selfish people because we always put our hopes in other people. My advice is don't ever put your hopes in other people, change yourself for the better.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: Assface16678 on January 29, 2024, 11:41:43 PM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
The government provides the legal and social framework within which the economy operates,and takes certain actions to stabilize the economy.In other words,the governments is not responsible to guarantee you the life you deserve or the life you ought to live by.
 Many persons are still living in that mentality instead of you to work and create the life you deserve you are comfortably relying on the
government to hand it over as a certificate..government has no role  in telling people how to live,its all up to you to create your best life and be in it.
Exactly! Good point. I'm furious about the OP's phrase, "I wait for an airdrop of money for each person, at least 2000–3000 dollars, without working for an income," because they expect that they can have an easy life and are dependent on the government. Yes, the government doesn't have the responsibility to guarantee you a better life or everyday living, and yes, they can help you, but not all the time. Does the OP think that his friend or himself are the only ones who are suffering from poverty? How about those people on the streets who are homeless? If your friend has a car, does that mean he has the means to buy one but not to cover his daily expenses? There are more people in such situations as yours; don't think that all things can be easy. And remember, even if the government should provide us with a better life and they don't, what will you do? sit there and complain? Of course, if you are a person who doesn't rely on the government, you will work on your own. In short, don't depend on the government, as we already know that there is a lot of corruption happening there, so you must survive on your own.


Title: Re: Goverments must have good plan very soon
Post by: poodle63 on January 30, 2024, 01:25:53 AM


 I wait airdrop of money for each people AT least 2000-3000$ without working ubi income


This is why you guys will remain in perpetual poverty, the plan of these corrupt government people is to keep you poor perpetual, so that when they come every 4 years to give you handouts you will think they are doing you favour again, this is the tool they have been using in most of these poor countries especially in Africa, just look at what these corrupt people turned Argentina to, a very strong economy was run to the ground, they come to give you bag of rice when they are sitting on your common wealth, I don't want free stuff, what I want is a conducive environment where my business can thrive.
The government provides the legal and social framework within which the economy operates,and takes certain actions to stabilize the economy.In other words,the governments is not responsible to guarantee you the life you deserve or the life you ought to live by.
 Many persons are still living in that mentality instead of you to work and create the life you deserve you are comfortably relying on the
government to hand it over as a certificate..government has no role  in telling people how to live,its all up to you to create your best life and be in it.
the time such thing happens which is free 3k from government thats also the time their future purchasing power gonna decrease so siginficantly.
as far as I know government has done a good thing giving ways for us to climb up our way from the very bottom to the top and thats already good enough.
its always funny seeing people always demanding to the government like that, because at the end it just shows laziness and unwilling to be productive.
if government keep accepting these demand the government will be broke in no time so I don't think its really a good idea in my opinion.
if anyone want to get out of poverty just find work, even blue collar job already good enough.