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Title: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Mulling389 on December 02, 2023, 01:56:07 PM
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/7d1838faa7bd56a7eae926e948d4ea3e91a10093c6a71e87f7e3a4a276ec3bc1

I’ve never had this come up where a transaction is stuck this long with an average fee.  Any explanation would be greatly appreciated. 


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Zaguru12 on December 02, 2023, 02:05:49 PM
I see a long chain of transactions which I think is as a result of series of CPFP, so the effective fee rate seems low. With this large chain of transactions I will suggest you bump the first transaction (first parent) using the RBF method if you control the private key to the the address. This will render the other transactions invalid but will Atleast prevent paying too high fee.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 02, 2023, 02:07:40 PM
If you put the tx id into https://mempool.space and click onto the red circles of the left (ancestor) addresses/transactions you'll see you have unconfirmed parents.
Also https://mempool.space tells that because of this your tx is considered CPFP and the Effective fee rate is only 18.3 sat/vB


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Mulling389 on December 02, 2023, 02:34:54 PM
Thanks for both responses.  I can’t bump the fee unfortunately.  Can anything else be done aside from keep waiting?



Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: stompix on December 02, 2023, 02:39:56 PM
Can anything else be done aside from keep waiting?

Pay either ViaBTC or Binance or mempool to include it in their next block.
But as Binance asks for 0.23208799 BTC  and Viabtc 0.2785056 BTC, while mempool for only $678.96 (!?) I guess waiting is the choice?

If you put the tx id into https://mempool.space and click onto the red circles of the left (ancestor) addresses/transactions you'll see you have unconfirmed parents.
Also https://mempool.space tells that because of this your tx is considered CPFP and the Effective fee rate is only 18.3 sat/vB

I wish people would stop using blockchain's services at all and thus force them to redesign that block explorer, it's so limited and annoying to navigate I wonder why do some exchanges still link to it. Mempool is far more easier to navigate and far more intuitive.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Charles-Tim on December 02, 2023, 02:43:06 PM
Thanks for both responses.  I can’t bump the fee unfortunately.  Can anything else be done aside from keep waiting?
Which wallet are you using. Not a noncustodial wallet?

If it is a noncustodial wallet, you can import the seed phrase into Electrum to pump the fee if you want to invalidate the child transactions. But a wallet that flag a transaction to support RBF should also be able to pump the fee.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 02, 2023, 02:49:21 PM
I wish people would stop using blockchain's services at all and thus force them to redesign that block explorer, it's so limited an annoying to navigate I wonder why do some exchanges still link to it. Mempool is far more ease to navigate and far more intuitive.

There were days blockchain's explorer was the one offering more info and more intuitive data and the rest were not. Sadly, they are long gone.
But that's why I took the time and patience to tell the steps. By checking for themselves people can see how easy it is on mempool.space and maybe next time they can look it up themselves.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Charles-Tim on December 02, 2023, 03:04:27 PM
But as Binance asks for 0.23208799 BTC  and Viabtc 0.2785056 BTC, while mempool for only $678.96 (!?) I guess waiting is the choice?
Paid accelerators are demanding too much and not worth using. Instead of paying too much, the best is to just invalidate the transaction by increasing the first (parent) transaction fee to invalidate other transactions. If he wants to pay coins to other addresses, he can send the coins to all other recipient addresses in one transaction and use fee rate that can make the transaction to have high confirmation priority. Or he can just increase the fee of the last child transaction, using fee rate that is significantly enough to make the transaction get confirmed.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: dimonstration on December 02, 2023, 03:05:54 PM
Thanks for both responses.  I can’t bump the fee unfortunately.  Can anything else be done aside from keep waiting?

This will gonna be a long wait considering how low the fee you use while Bitcoin price keeps increasing that makes it very hot transfers for traders. I never saw Bitcoin fee go back below 20sat/vB for a long time since the bull run started. Are you using trustwallet because I encountered same bullshit situation before using that wallet.

Your best chance is to suddenly drop the fee during weekends. Always check mempool suggested fee to have any idea how close your pending transaction to be confirmed.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: philipma1957 on December 02, 2023, 03:07:04 PM
As  a service look here

https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC,24h,weight



https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/02/NymEq.png







check the weight size and if you pay at level under 1vmb it should clear quickly


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Pmalek on December 02, 2023, 04:30:17 PM
As a service look here

https://mempool.jhoenicke.de/#BTC,24h,weight
Yes, but OP's effective fee rate is not 35 sat/vByte, it's 18.3 sat/vByte. He will have to wait much longer. There aren't that many transactions paying +30 sat/vByte currently, and with a bit of luck it could have been confirmed within the next hours. His effective fee rate puts him 15-18 vMB from the top. Perhaps Sunday brings more luck like it did in the past when the mempools used to clear up.


@Mulling389
Is the transaction time sensitive? Does it have to confirm until a specific point in time in the near future?
If not, just wait. Especially if you are sending the coins to yourself. The BTC isn't going anywhere. It will either confirm or not confirm and return to the original address you sent it from if mempools drop it. In that case, you can start over and pay a higher fee.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: decodx on December 02, 2023, 04:40:29 PM
Thanks for both responses.  I can’t bump the fee unfortunately.  Can anything else be done aside from keep waiting?

It would probably help if you could tell us a bit more about the transaction itself. Why can't you bump up the fee? Are you the initiator of the transaction? What type of wallet or service did you use? Are you on the receiving end? Do you have access to the private keys of any of the addresses in the transaction chain?


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: philipma1957 on December 03, 2023, 04:23:19 AM
My transaction was stuck due to low fees, no RBF and I couldn't CPFP, the fee I had to pay the miners was quite high but it was 100% successful and so fast... I had the transaction completed within 20 minutes. Had the pleasure to be served by btcaccelerator.info, this site is a super. I was doubting the success rates but after reading all the reviews below I decided to try it. They are not wrong, this service works and its very effective.

https://www.btcaccelerator.info/ (https://www.btcaccelerator.info/)


hmm if legit this is a side business for a major pool.

now picture getting a ton of 35 dollar payments for a 5-10 buck tx.

and you are foundry pool.

now picture using 15 of each 35 dollar payment to flood the mempool with 1-20 sat dust moves.

foundry makes $$$ doing this.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Pmalek on December 03, 2023, 07:58:21 AM
@Mulling389
I wouldn't trust the recommendations and the site the person I am quoting below suggested to you. It smells like a scam. That's how a scammer would advertise their site. Besides, the website is only 14 days old, so stay away from it. The user has already been tagged by a DT member for what they are doing.

<Snip>


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: ABCbits on December 03, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
My transaction was stuck due to low fees, no RBF and I couldn't CPFP, the fee I had to pay the miners was quite high but it was 100% successful and so fast... I had the transaction completed within 20 minutes. Had the pleasure to be served by btcaccelerator.info, this site is a super. I was doubting the success rates but after reading all the reviews below I decided to try it. They are not wrong, this service works and its very effective.

--SEO Spam--
hmm if legit this is a side business for a major pool.

now picture getting a ton of 35 dollar payments for a 5-10 buck tx.

and you are foundry pool.

now picture using 15 of each 35 dollar payment to flood the mempool with 1-20 sat dust moves.

foundry makes $$$ doing this.

I doubt it's legit, especially when the website design isn't very well designed and there's no mention which pool used to perform acceleration. In addition, that user seems to perform SEO spam which is common occurrence on this forum.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Zaguru12 on December 03, 2023, 01:30:05 PM
I doubt it's legit, especially when the website design isn't very well designed and there's no mention which pool used to perform acceleration. In addition, that user seems to perform SEO spam which is common occurrence on this forum.

It’s definitely a scam, there have been numerous numbers of sites I was like that with different domain, which definitely makes it fake. An old thread of same thing is here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2567689.msg27799359#msg27799359) and if it has been working from day one we will have had it’s suggestions all round the forum like that of Viabtc. The sites also didn’t provide details of the transaction will get confirmed or the pools they work with as you have said. I will advise OP to just stay away from that site, they probably what they can do is to just rebroadcast transactions and claim it is accelerated.


This will gonna be a long wait considering how low the fee you use while Bitcoin price keeps increasing that makes it very hot transfers for traders. I never saw Bitcoin fee go back below 20sat/vB for a long time since the bull run started. Are you using trustwallet because I encountered same bullshit situation before using that wallet.

Bitcoin price increase has nothing really to do with the high transaction fee, it is just congestion by Ordinals that is causing it because of you check they are mostly the ones filling the block space with high transaction amount.
Also it is not TrustWallet that did that transaction because it doesn’t have an Opt in RBF bumping option and from the explorer the transaction is RBFed enabled.


Title: Re: Pending transaction for 4 days with 35 sat fee?
Post by: Charles-Tim on December 03, 2023, 01:50:11 PM
I doubt it's legit, especially when the website design isn't very well designed and there's no mention which pool used to perform acceleration. In addition, that user seems to perform SEO spam which is common occurrence on this forum.
Yes, it is a scam site. The fee to be paid for instant priority is $1067. Fee to be paid for highest priority is $35.

Instant priority
Highest priority

Those two seem more inaccurately used.

There are two instant priority.

Instant priority is stated to be 60 minutes. Highest priority to take 5 to 10 hours. Second instant priority to take 1 to 5 hours. The site domain was just created 2 weeks ago. It is definitely a scam site with little effort.