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Hi guys. Someone will explain to me why gamblers have such a strange logic: if a gambler has received a huge multiplier, then he will not withdraw this money. And he will continue to play, saying, "if I'm so lucky, I'll be lucky again now."
But according to the laws of mathematics, the chance of such luck becomes much less, doesn't it?

It's called a heater mate.

You are supposed to keep playing on the heater until you meet a cold section. Most of us especially me, sometimes on the heater not only keep playing but raise the bet by maybe 20-50%. In the heater, you can turn on for 2-4 weeks lose back to even with just a single section. One things people should aware, just need to set up a limit win and stop while you got cold section (streak/multiple lose) after your heater.

Yes, the chance are same but one things people should learn keep doing/bet on heater until you lose after keep betting + raise your bet and then bet back to original bet. That's it, and then call the day.

I think this is a psychological problem faced by majority of gamblers. As a matter of fact, gambling is designed to make you hopeful of winning always and if you are not careful, you might become complacent.

It takes effort to overcome the urge to continue gambling after major wins. Those who have been able to master gambling and all it takes to remain in the business ensure they fix this psychological problem as soon as they can.

This is what newbie gamblers should know. Also it can happen to gamblers that do not discipline themselves to gamble responsibly. If they are winning, they will see it simple and they will become relax. This is the time to lose. Also if losing, the zeal to win and not lose that make a gambler continue to gamble is another time for more losses to occur. This is how humans are. If they see something easy, they will enjoy to do that thing. But in gambling, that is the time gamblers are vulnerable to gamble with more money and lose.

This is where the excitement and euphoria mode comes into play. After winning a large sum of money, a person often loses the sense of reality, and begins to believe that the lucky streak has just begun. At the same time, a large sum deprives a person of a sense of proportion, and usually he does not notice how his winnings completely disappear

some of the gamblers however don't stop as they hope to keep winning.  i think everyone feels lucky when we win 3-4 times in a row and if happens after every 1 loss, its really a time to increase the bets.

the martingale strategy looks very fun to try when you are new to gambling actually and you always feel lucky when you try it. the more you win the more you wanted to start with more than the usual starting amount.

Actually, many people and some social researchers have suggested there is an inverse proportionality between the amount a gambler would wager in Relation the knowledge they have on mathematics and laws of probabilities.
When anyone gambles, that person is not supposed to be thinking about the chances he has to earn money, otherwise it will only end up in frustration and broken expectations. Those who enjoy their sessions at the casino the most are those who think the least about mathemstics. You know why? Because there is only reason anyone would try to apply math on dices or slots in a casino: to try to make money out of it, and we all know how that turns out to most of the gamblers.
Just see gambling as fun, fun does not need to have a rational purpose to exist. For example, there is people who likes to drive around their city for fun, even though their are losing money in gas, they are not earning anything beyond the experience of a lovely afternoon, and so, they enjoy fully because there is no thought about earning money when going out for a car ride with friends.

Gambling should be seen in the same way, it would save so many people from suffering bitter experiences, in my opinion.

By the way: the chances of earning money while driving for fun are zero percent.  :P

Then you're going on the wrong side.

You're not supposed to raise the bet on loss, always on heater, never on losing. People to scared raise the bet after winning but they're raise the best after lose ? need to change the mindset.

BTW, you can do raise the bet after lose unless you're up on have a good bankroll. But I recommended you raise the bet after lose if your balance is up maybe 200-300% from your started balance.

The reason for the belief that their luck isn't running out is because the brain is overjoyed and the fleshy circuits right now is going haywire on happiness and so the person can't think straight on what to do next, even if they are the most logical ones out there, when they win, they're definitely going to go over their plan and keep on playing, your brain craves dopamine and so you want to chase that hit from that win and so you end up playing hoping to get that win again. That's how gambling addicts started, they win big and then the next day they're chasing that high they get from winning.

That's how it's supposed to be played but the problem with that is that it's just a phenomenon that many lead to believe to be true and so we end up having to think that this is true, that there's such a thing as cold section. For me, this heater that you're calling is just the same as a gambler's fallacy but the only difference is that it's a matter of winning until you hit a lose unlike the fallacy. Non-statistic strategies are not the best kind of strategy to me because when this kind of stuff is put into practice, it's overwhelming underperforming and it's not consistent compare that to those that have a math in their approach, it's totally different and you're wins and profit will go up when you subscribe to that, even if you set up a win so you'll know when to stop it's not that effective.

You're doing gambling

Then, do the gambling but at least with some brain on it. Raising the bet after winning by just at least 10-20% is small, If you have some balls you raise the bets by 50%. If you win the next bet over and over gain you gain good money. But, If you lose then you only 10% from the last bet. If you gambling, then just get ready to lost and raise the bet at least on the heater. It's better than losing, you don't know these when you're not trying.

I already using all the strategies, even all-in betting with free money. Came out from just 10-15$ to 985$ in Stake.Com by Weekly Amount. While playing with my deposit bonus, I always raise the bet after my win and flat-bet on losing.

That's the logic and strategy gambling, the rest ? only the future know.

There is a general upbringing in the world, amongst children. Which is to try again. We keep on trying, and even after getting what we want, the impulses seek more of it. The gambling world is dealing with humans not robots. And we are obliged to behave accordingly. A problem if happening to one person could be seen as personal, but when it occurs with too many people, then the fault shouldn't be on anyone. But, it'll be seen as a general psychological problem. Go on Quora, you'll read hundreds of posts about people who wagered all the money they've won, ranging from 1k dollars, at once and lost it all. When credited with extra money maybe from family, they'll wager all the money, still. Believing that luck is on their side for winning thousands of dollars. The whole money goes back to the casino. Even if the gambler withdraws the money, he'd feel the urge to play more the next day. Within him, all his efforts are paying off. He wouldn't mind the subsequent losses, and keep on wagering until the whole funds gets exhausted.

Gambling addiction causes this type of problem to players, and they try to stop when broke. Immediately money is handed to the person, he'll rush back to gamble. This is related to the thread that says; reckless gambling begins from a win. However, not all gamblers get involved in this ill behavior. But, a colossal amount of gamblers have been through similar situations. While we blame the gamblers, let's take it outside the gambling niche. If a salesman gets more calls and closes deals often, he keeps on going to work. And also work diligently as a salesman. Humans tend to repeat, whatever works out in their life. Regardless of the challenges that follow after it worked. They'll keep reminding themselves of the positive days, as a weapon to get passed the negative moments. In a niche other than gambling, it's quite okay to keep on trying after a one-time win. But, gambling isn't a profession, and following a similar route would be detrimental to the life of the gambler. Yet it seems inevitable. The brain doesn't recognize whether it's gambling or not. It only releases those impulses, involuntarily.

On slots, live casino games and other original games, the previous results will not influence a future outcome.
If you said "the chance of such luck becomes much less" after win a max multi, the answer is No.
He/she may hit a max multi again, and the chance still the same as before.

Maybe you think a gambler will be lost if he keeps playing on the same slot after win a decent amount because of the house edge/rtp.
And how about if a gambler keep losing on the same slot, does he have a better chance on the next spins? the answer is No either.
Because the RTP is for the long term results and the rate determined over millions of spins.

Another example, you play Baccarat 10 times and from the 10 series = all wins by "Player" . The chance will be the same in the next round, 50-50.
Gamble fallacy will believe for the 11 rounds "Banker" will have a better chance.

When I view gambling with the laws of mathematics, then I will never play gambling. Because math is about certainty, while gambling is about possibility. Which of course this is very contradictory. When math speaks that one plus one is two, then gambling will speak differently that one plus one is ten and it could also be that one plus one is zero.

If we think rationally, of course gambling is very detrimental, but we also get other things, namely sensation and pleasure when doing these activities. So just assume that the loss you experience is a fair price for the thrill and pleasure you get.
And speaking of the possibility in gambling it returns to ourselves personally, whether in doing this gambling is only for pleasure by continuing to squander money. Or change this activity that still gives pleasure, but is less detrimental and gives us a little benefit. All of this goes back to our beliefs and understanding of gambling, as well as our abilities at the time of gambling. With good self-control and finance, we will always be able to turn this gambling activity into an activity that does not cause a big loss. And with good knowledge and abilities coupled with your skills when gambling, you will always increase the chances of getting a win every time you play gambling.

For some people, like new to gambling the heater is a streak, so basically betting on a heater means you're putting a bet to continue a streak. It's like the NBA teams, why would you bet on 3-16 Spurs over 16-3 Philadelphia? Technically the math that you should think of this is the chances of how many win did it have, or basically the probability of repeating the same pattern.

But sometimes countering a heater may be a good idea since there will be a point when there a shift, or a pause on that streak but then again putting a bet on a heater after that pause or shift is the most preferable to do by most of gamblers, not until there is a turn over.

Accordingly to mathematics, luck isn't enough for a gambler to keep winning on long term, because the casino has a mathematical advantage called house edge, which varies from casino to casino, but tends to stay around 1%-2%. It looks innofensive, but it makes total difference the more you play and the longer loss streaks you suffer, especially after hundreds or few thousands of placed bets.

However, not every gamblers care about mathematics or understand it, so they just ignore it and go ahead betting as they wish, without worrying about the consequences of their acts, as you mentioned in your post.

I think the title of this thread funny, because in fact, there isn't logic against mathematics. Logic is a very elementary concept inside this subject. What gamblers can try doing is to use their luck against math, as it's the case of jackpot and lottery winners who to win big once it's already enough for the rest of life, so they don't need to enter the so feared long term gambling.

people are greedy, when they are playing they keep setting a profit target, even though they are losing they continue to plan how much money they want to win when they hit a big multiplier, even if they know that the mathematics may not be in their favor, They are counting on luck and everything gets worse because people keep seeing stories of people who say that they played with little money and managed to hit a big multiplier and then went back to playing more and hit another big multiplier and how these people, when they talk about it, post photos, then become inspiration for other people. people are greedy and always have a tendency to copy what other people do

especially when it comes to money, if today you came to this forum and said that you deposited $100 in a casino and spent 3 hours playing a certain game 2000$ and thanks to that you ended up with 2900$ and removed it without any problems, and posted photos. assures you that many people who are intelligent, who don't take much risks in games, would lose their minds and put in 100$ and play the same game that you said you played and won 2900$, people wouldn't think about things like what are the chances of them also getting the same result you got. they would just act on emotions

He's right, as luck will never be a part of mathematical certainty. If he's lucky, he'll get more; what he relies on is luck, not mathematics. For me, this is quite terrifying because the probabilities I consider are based on calculations, not just feelings. Someone who relies too much on luck is likely to get something big (if lucky). Unfortunately, I can't force my luck too much, so maybe our gambling approaches are a bit different.

For me, mathematics is somewhat necessary to understand the probability of winning we might have, while luck plays a significant role. I still strongly believe that gambling requires a significant amount of luck to win big, and I also believe that mathematics plays only a minor role.

It seems to me that most gamblers can't finish a game after a big win because of greed and the feeling that they have curbed their luck. Any responsible gambler leaves the gambling game after winning and returns to the game only when the emotional background is restored.
 
In fact, none of us can not say for sure what the probability of two consecutive wins.

I don't know what law of mathematics are you talking about, but a gambler who can't stop after winning a huge multiplier is just simply thinking about seizing the moment while he's feeling lucky or trying to make a winning momentum. But whatever mathematical law you're talking about, the algorithm doesn't allow any gambler to win successively with huge multiplier in the same game for slot game. So, others will move on to another game. Gambling is all about risk after all, so it's all depend on the gambler's risk appetite. 

The mathematics in games of Chance , casinos and all this , I believe that there is a Relationship , because every game , every casino is made under the schemes of the most advanced mathematics with other things that include them, such as game theory and random systems that at the same time In the end it has to favor the casinos, that's what that's about , but a company with its full capacity is difficult to generate something strong so that it can beat its casinos or a casino system, because its algorithms, therefore when we see that there are more things to develop we Should not let ourselves be surprised, because yes, it can be done.

I was reading an AI thread where a player said that there was a program that was very close to doing many favorable things , to win and to make any Prediction , which seems even dangerous to me, because then it would have its own life, it wouldn't even be a machine, or being human, another strange creation , which must be controlled and not allowed to Advance so much.

Not some but I think it's more like "most" gamblers prefer to act out of control, or that means doing things that they can't really afford to lose, it's like wanting to win but not willing to lose, isn't it ridiculous? obviously. Greed will have a major role when luck accompanies you in the session you are doing, one of the reasons is that they try to take advantage of the situation and conditions to get a much bigger win, on the other hand are you sure that luck is still with you at that time? unknown, anyone will never know when luck comes and when it leaves, which is why it is very difficult to get a win and from dozens of attempts there will only be a few or even one win.

That is indeed quite tempting, but on the other hand allowing yourself to continue to be carried away by the situation is really not recommended and must be avoided, the satisfaction of lust will have no limit, meaning that even if you can get a large number of wins it will not be able to make you realize to leave and there is only that you will again increase the multiplier for even bigger wins. Simply put, "winning is addictive and losing is curious" is what gambling is all about and the point is that there should at least be time for you to go home and enjoy it.

But that's not how it works. Every spin is a new game, and you're just as likely to win or lose as you were on the last spin.  There is no math that says you have less chance after winning a huge multiplier if the outcome of the game is truly random.

The best after winning is to just quit and not gamble again for that day.  Some gamblers will want to have fun, they can reduce the money that they are using to gamble. Example is if a gambler has won $10 for the day, the gambler can just use $5 to gamble for the remain gambling time of the day. With $0.5 in each game, it would make the gambling time longer. If all the $5 are lost, he should not gamble with the remaining profit but stop gambling for the day.

If you have been betting and experiencing how it is, you will understand that the more you gamble the more your gambling fund will reduce in a way that you may likely add more bankroll. That is what OP is talking about and he is definitely right.

I haven't done this though. I am too scared that I may lose my winnings and fall into mild depression out of regrets. When I write the new things in risky things in gambling that I want to attempt for 2024, I am going to put this in there. For now, I will have to read more on this "heater" thingy.

From the way you explained it, this is not feat for a newbie. It is left for those who wants their adrenaline to run faster. Do you have any other tips for me to keep in mind before I go ahead and try this for myself?

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of winning in the first place? If you'll keep on upping your bet while you're in the zone, you're not gaining anything at the end of the day or until you get to that cold section. Perhaps people who won huge amounts should keep a portion of their wins immediately and play with whatever's left of those winnings to their heart's content. I understand that you should strike while the iron is hot, but I think it isn't fully applicable to a game wherein chances are most probably not in your favor most of the time.

If you hang around gamblers in casinos for long enough, you quickly pick up on those who are chasing luck or think they are due for a win, which goes against the simple reality of the odds. It's also big business and a lot of research has gone into the psychology and tricks that get people to spend more. There is no logic to it, the simple reality is many people are bad at math or are so desperate to win, that they throw any analysis out the window. There is no reasoning with someone who has not used reason to take their position.

This mostly affects gamblers who have no plan. Gambling is a game of luck so you don't expect to keep winning consistently. Winning big only comes once in a while, hence it is important to maximize it when it comes. Immediately I will big, the next step will be to withdraw some percentage and the remaining funds will be kept in my account to fund my games. Gamblers should grasp that we lose more than we win, so it is important not to gamble off our wind because we expect to win more. Wins should be used to solve our needs and not to be pulled back into gambling. Some gamblers have invested some of their wins and it is bringing returns. Gambling is not an investment and it shouldn't be seen as su h.


Your illustration about people driving around town because of the fun they derived from it is a typical example of people gambling for fun. When one gambles for fun there will be no need to chase losses or see gambling as a major source of income. People also visit cinemas to watch movies just because of fun and they are comfortable spending money on it.

Scientists have been struggling with probability for a long time now. Although if something like luck existed, we would have quantized, measured and experimentally reproduced it by now. But I think its just a superstition concept.

What is important is the probability. And that never seems to change.

If your probability of winning is 1/10 then that does not mean you will definitely win once or lose 9 times. You could win 10 times and lose 0 times. Or even lose all 10 times and not even win once.

You just have to take a chance and see where it leads you.

The biggest mistake a gambler would ever make, this multipliers usually comes after several failed attempts, and when it finally comes, what's the possibility that it's gonna come again, after that round, you know the saying, you can't eat your cake and have it. I think what drives gamblers to go into such an adventure is greed. You make a significant win by luck and then you automatically assume that you'll be that lucky again because you want more. Some even go as far as betting all their wins on the next round and then end up loosing it all.

I don't really believe in this mathematical connotations to gambling because they don't really work. If we are talking about the reduction of chances of luck to appear  because of frequency of playing time, so what is the proportion of the time to play that it would really reduce the chances of reduced luck. This is just not scientific, and that is the point. Many other people have been successful while staying longer in their gambling tables.

That is only applicable to those newbies in gambling who are still not aware on the risks and danger of gambling. They think that once luck is there, it will continue to stay with him until he will experience a big win in the end. But in reality, the opposite thing happens. Once you're lucky and made some significant profits, then it's time to withdraw and go home immediately, otherwise playing more will only make you lose your winning profits.

It takes various experiences first so that these newbies will learn their lesson. But for now, let them gamble on their own and encounter winnings and losses, they will come to see the realities in gambling when they experience losing a lot which I think is very possible with gambling.

I don't think all gamblers do things like that, but I'm sure almost all gamblers have done that, even if only once. That is greed, although it is possible that after getting a big win we will get it back, the chances are smaller. The best way so that we don't lose our winnings again is to withdraw some of it or store it in a vault if there is such a feature on the site.

I have experience playing slots and after getting Maxwin I got another big win of around 3500x the bet. Of course, this very rarely happens and what happens most often is that I will lose my winnings if I force myself to continue playing, especially if we play slot machines.

This is a common misconception of a player, he invented for himself that he was lucky and believed it. After that he continues betting. There are a lot of such misconceptions when players come up with anything they want just to continue the game and get the emotions they so need. Also, many players study on the Internet or on forums various mathematical strategies that replace concepts. You need to understand that most of this information is nonsense. It is better to double-check information from various sources and try it yourself on small amounts for a long time. Because if we don’t do this, the loss will come to us.

This proves that he is someone who is quite greedy, he is never grateful for the victory he gets, he always wants a victory that is bigger than what they got before. Until in the end this trait pushed him to behave carelessly, by risking back the winnings he had obtained. And finally, what was initially profitable became a loss. So this is where good self-control and emotions are needed, so that we will know exactly when we have to stop gambling and when we have to start gambling.


In terms of calculations, it is clear that this gambling is very detrimental. Because when gambling, a person will experience more losses than wins.

I have been in that situation many times... but after a big win, nobody thinks about math, we think more about how it's just the beginning and that an even bigger win is just around the corner. So we continue with gambling, and in most cases, we even raise the bets...  but that ends badly for us. Been there, done that... and I feel I can't run away from that, I repeat the same mistake over and over again. The moment takes us to some place and it's hard against it, we don't even feel it/thin about it and it's over and we lost it. It's hard to control every moment of gambling, especially when big wins and losses happen. In those moments each of us gets into some special stage of mind, and we need to find a way to control it or it will eat us.

And that is the very definition of gambling though, I mean it's the risk of not knowing whether you are going to win or not. So for those gamblers that have that kind of mentality, I would say that it is not normal though.

It's just the question on how he is going to take his losses as he try to extend his luck? Will he be ok with losing that money and most likely his bankroll? In any case, gambling is really is not for everyone I guess, those who doesn't want to take risk and go for broke. But I can't blame as well those who for reasons, might withdraw everything after a good win, maybe they have lost so much money already and they are trying to recoup from this losses.

Gamblers think that the more they gamble, the higher their chance will be to win jackpot. Think about it, as you try something over and over again, you expect that you'll get what you wanted to get or you'll do what you wanted to do. That's why gamblers think that the more they gamble, higher will be their chance to win and that's why they also think that if they are lucky right now, they'll be lucky till the end of the day. According to math, the probability of winning doesn't increase after losing, instead, it decreases.

It is the simplest example or Illustration I could think of, though.
Also, I do not pretend to be the perfect gambler and be into wagering money because 100 percent of the fun it brings to me, that would be hypocritical to say, even the most responsible gamblers who trie to detach themselves from any earning still hopes for scoring big in the casino, even if they are not actively seek to big a huge amount of money in their session.
If casinos offered some games which would not have any changes to earn money, but rather other kind of prices, probably even those who only claim to seek for fun would not feel so appealed to wager money on those, instead the classic slots and dices.

Even probably has happened to you, even when you are aware you are supposed to treat all this is entertainment, you have gotten carried away during one or two sessions which you felt specially lucky.

Lol, funny enough this is common amongst several gamblers, makes me wonder where they get this perspective from. Whenever I find myself in that position, the first and only reflex I get is to run, not just walk away, I run away with my winning, because I know that whatever that will make me to spend more time there would result to me loosing the winning and even more. Because after loosing the winning, you'd be filled with nothing but rage and regrets, and those emotions combined in a gambler's heart can make a gambler take irrational decisions that would likely send him into ruin and damnation.

To become an irresponsible gambler, rather than a successful one, you've got to be really sentimental; gamblers have got one grand rule, and I think they didn't make this rule themselves - I think this rule was made by the casinos themselves to motivate and rekindle every gambler's urge to win, when they know too well that the possibilities of this happening is barely 2/10.. however, some gamblers have got to discover this "trickery" and they've learnt to evade them by some grand "mastery" of abstinence or predetermined bankrolls per week, month or annum.
Sandra; to me, I feel this are peeps I could eventually term as professional gamblers...

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It's true, your luck goes less after it. But there are instances where the multi-win continues. Trust me, I've seen it.
But, I do understand where you are going with your statement. Yes, if you get a multi-win then you could withdraw and enjoy your profits and if that is your strategy then keep it. It's the best one out there and it means you have control.
Greed is the main reason why any gambler would want to continue gambling after a multi-win. It's not just about "luck" too, after a big win, the thought process of having an enormous amount of budget to bet more is lingering in their mind.
Let's say I hit x1000, my point of view becomes different and it's not about withdrawal, I dare to bet 100 more, if it loses, I can go 200 more because I have the funds and it keeps on going until I lose all the profits.

This happens often, a situation that plays on our psychology. Excessive self-confidence and feeling that one's luck is very high in the game or gambling. Even though that was the beginning of the person's involvement in gambling. Yes, maybe that person was really lucky with his win at the start. However, it could be a trap so that the person believes that he will get even more money there.

When someone is interested in more and has very high hopes in gambling, this is a quite risky moment for that person. Because usually, he will become more interested and lose his commitment to be wise in gambling. And this could actually be the beginning of addiction or a greater risk. because with such high hopes, usually he will continue to be interested in trying again and again until he gets a pleasant victory like at the beginning. And it could be that they actually unconsciously use more money for gambling there.

For this reason, the need for self-management and finances in gambling is very necessary. Even if we want to continue gambling activities, it would be better if (if possible) we limit our money there. So, after winning, it is better for us to withdraw the money first, at least a minimum of the initial capital or plus a certain percentage of the total winnings at the start, so that whenever we want to continue gambling, it is like we are only using the money that actually came from the gambling prize. And of course, self-control here is very necessary so as not to make us addicted.

Mathematics deals on accuracy to get an actual expected result, while luck doesn't work that way be you accurate or not you either get luck ones and lose all others if you continue or you get lucky that one's and still continue getting lucky with more streaks but none in the latter or former under luck is guaranteed. Hope, yes hope is what makes gamblers continue gambling even after making a good win that they could use to end their day they still continue believing another streak of luck might just reoccur again but most times it turns to more loss after the other, only coming to a realization when they are down to the last cash in the account or pocket.
Op be reminded not all gamblers are mathematicians so don't expect all gamblers to gambling in accordance to the law of maths.

There's no need for any logic with it, that's it.

The gambler believes that he's going to be lucky again and the term gambling itself is what can be your reference on it. That's the reason why it's not going to work even if you're going to apply some magical logic on them about math and numbers.

Gamblers don't care that much about these percentages and rates from the potential chance of being lucky. What we do care about is the present that we have and if we're winning, we think that it's going to last within the day.

It's true that the chances of such luck becomes even less after every round of winning but it's really funny how these gamblers mot times don't see it like that probably because of greed or maybe they think they can still be lucky if only they try again any further but then it's really turns out otherwise in most cases as gambling is very much luck dependent.

This is why I always advise gamblers to inculcate the habit of withdrawal and not to continually think and hope they will win by repeatedly placing bets again after a round of loss but if they withdraw that which they have won already and probably use part of it to further stake again if they so wish, then they will be at advantage much more than when they will get to loose all to the casino again in the bid to win again. Some of them are very much aware of how well their chances reduce with every round of game they involve in after a win but they still ignore and hope to try their luck.

Mindset towards luck in gambling is what affects many gamblers. There are gamblers who believe that if they are lucky in a day, that there is still the chance of being lucky that same day. There are others who take luck as a one time, one moment thing that happens just once.

I cannot fault anyone's Logic on what they believe in regarding luck, because sometimes people have had their personal experiences that may back up their motivation to keep trying after being lucky once, and it may work for them sometimes.

Do what is right for you, allow others do what they think is right for them too.

If I'm in that situation, I will honestly say that I will continue too. It's just that luck is not always there so when it comes grab it. But that's the challenge there, how far we can keep playing until we should stop. In my case before, when I hit that huge multiplier, I still continue to play and try to set a percentage of the win that will be considered as afford to lose.

At some point, I'm not following the plan and still continue. But in the end, I still managed to take home and cashout some winnings although it should be more if I withdraw early. But who knows if luck will come again. We are playing gambling after all.

I just made a comment about this same thing in a different post. Yes! It happens to all gamblers but a few are disciplined and know exactly how to shut that inner voice. It’s an inner voice because you have been there the whole time and you didn’t hear it, but it’s when you start winning big that it tells you to play more so you can win more. If you are not conscious as you play, you’ll forget that you had a target which you should stop playing afterwards, or may even remember but the greed may have eaten into you a lot already.

Exactly!
The correct thing is for every player to define and follow limits.
And these limits should not only be on how much money the player is willing to lose, but also on how much money he is willing to win.
If someone is entering the game with $100, they should withdraw at least half of that amount when they reach $1000 and not try to multiply it again to reach $1000000.
It is much more prudent to withdraw $500 by $500 than to lose all your winnings.
Anyway.... strategic planning is fundamental, because if someone doesn't have this well defined and the discipline to follow it, unfortunately they end up being "carried away" by emotions at the moment a big loss or gain occurs.

Mathematics and Luck will never be friend forever , Mathematics are looking for right pattern and calculations to find the answers perfectly while Luck only happens once in a full moon , assuring nothing and no one but proven to be happening .

what I mean here is you cannot ask those lucky gambler about why and how they won , but Mathematicians will always find correct answer to respond .

so either believe in math , or find your luck? it is up to you when talking about gambling.

Luck doesn't follow mathematics. Luck isn't logical. And it's the one thing that most gamblers rely on. It's not wrong of course because if you don't take luck into consideration you might not gamble at all.

Winning in gambling in terms of logic or mathematics is less expected than losing. There's the house edge. There's the very low probability to win in random-based games. But a gambler plays nonetheless, and it's because he believes in his luck. If he wins though, and continue to play because he still believes he remains lucky, he will eventually lose. Lucky doesn't stay around for long.

I believe luck cannot be associated with mathematics. It's strange to try to calculate the probability of experiencing luck again after the first lucky instance, isn't it? Luck doesn't follow any rules; if there were rules, it wouldn't be called luck anymore. Gamblers tend to seek a basis to explain their luck and betting decisions.

Therefore, they believe their luck has patterns, and they try to identify these patterns to recreate their luck. However, I think that's truly meaningless. It's like a psychological method to temporarily soothe the craving for finding luck to secure their victories.

What you call "luck" is just short-term statistical variability, and there is a part of statistics focused on the probability of games such as casino games.

The OP is right but with nuances. What many gamblers don't understand is that when they have a lucky break, what they have had is positive variance in an EV-negative game, therefore, you can't move on to the next play but the "luck" is not going to continue for long as in the long run the trend is going to be one of inexorable loss. Therefore, effectively, the best thing the gambler can do after having had a bit win is to go home with the money. And not come back.

That the first comment talks about the "heater" is precisely an example of not understanding how statistical mathematics applied to the game works.

If we gamble using the logic that some gamblers have, of course it is very unrelated to mathematics, because the logic of every gambler hopes to win big from the gambling they play and with luck they will certainly be able to get it.
Those who continue to play their gambling by trusting that luck is on their side and if they have had luck but do not enjoy the win and continue playing it, I think we will lose the win that we have obtained.

luck will come only to those who dare to take risks but luck comes only once.
from the understanding I have said, it is very clear that luck is the first role in gambling and if there is someone who continues to chase winnings after getting the jackpot, it doesn't matter as long as the money they use is just the rest of their daily needs and there is no harm in trying to bet again and thinking will be lucky again.

but even so, it's still all too risky and as a responsible gambler you should know when is the right time to stop and after getting a big win you should immediately stop, enjoy the money from the win and then leave a little more to gamble in the future and this is how life works gamblers become more positive even if the lucky draw is only one time.

even so, I will not blame gamblers who have the assumption that if I am lucky again because conditions like that are very normal and often happen as long as everything is fine, it doesn't turn into an addiction, it doesn't matter, but if after that it becomes the beginning of an addiction, it would be better to avoid thinking habits like that always remember that gambling is just like a place of luck, so try your luck and if you get lucky, stop immediately and come back tomorrow to try your luck.

I honestly don't care about math and statistics when gambling, I know that we should be gambling smart, but for me, if you think about probability, statistics, and Math while gambling it just spoils the fun and thrill. Not unless you intend to play with a huge bank roll and win big. But it's different in my case, I only set a decent amount to gamble whenever I feel like gambling just for a change of phase or have fun, just an amount I can afford to lose and never go above it. I would say people increase their bet every win since they'll only be down by a small percentage if they lose, I think it's better than increasing your bet with ever lose which means you are chasing up your losses. Any way it's gambling it's either you'll have a good win streak or lose streak, luck plays a great role in it.

it is not a "gambler bias error" but rather the various marketing messages people receive when you use a gambling site.
it's obvious owner of platoforms can't point out how impossible it is to achieve certain stats in long term ::)
That's why, they have to rely on luck and other "irrational" things ;)

It becomes less so if you're in the situation don't gamble more but take a break and resume another day. Taking a break will help you very much to concentrate when gambling again and not feel invincible as when you win you'll think you're invincible and can't lose therefore you'll be wagering high amounts or playing games you won't have gone for if you were in the right state of mind. You won because of luck and been lucky doesn't happen always.

You can be lucky twice and win again if you play the same game you won before or gambled on other games but the chances are too low and shouldn't be risked. Take a break from gambling after winning and also take profits. Don't give yourself access the all your profits and capital or you might use them to gamble without knowing. Always put yourself on a budget and stop when you have exceeded the budget. When you stay disciplined you won't get addicted to gambling.

Its very possible to win again when the heater is ongoing, but I would rather not, I have my own set of rules in gambling and its me taking my leave after I win, just a single win is a bus stop for me to exit and come back another day.

I know that some people can win three times in a roll, but what could come next is what I don't like, its like doing the exact thing that casino want you to do, to keep going, thinking that you can really be a winner, in every game you play.

Forget about gambling strategy, the best one is to be smart with the amount you risk on gambling and also take your leave whenever you get lucky, do not misuse your luck, when it comes once it probably isn't going to happen the second time, you don't even want to find out.

If really good logic was used then it wouldn't be that kind of thinking, but they would know that luck won't come second time at almost the same time.
But if it is said to be strange logic then it is true and usually gamblers with thoughts like that will never be satisfied with their winnings, in fact they will lose more or even more than the winnings they have already won.
If luck can come back then I sure there will be no gamblers who will lose more after winning and continue to gamble again, they will definitely get the same win again.
It just that in reality what happens is that the win is win that cannot be repeated and every gambler should be able to take advantage of the win by withdrawing it, even if only part of it, at least there is money that can be secured.

And it is true that calculated correctly using mathematics, the chance of that luck being achieved again will be smaller.

A really strange phenomenon. But it very vividly shows how emotions take hold of a person and how ordinary logic begins to be ignored. After all, anyone who is at least a little familiar with mathematics will understand that every person who wins the jackpot has a very small chance of winning the jackpot again. It's as if lightning struck the same place twice.

Nevertheless, I also hear very often that gamblers do not stop after big losses, but continue to play with increased energy.

Just winning the first jackpot is also very difficult and only a certain percentage. The gambling system is set in such a way that the jackpot can occur when the dealer already has a lot of profits. Each account will get a jackpot and it's a varying amount or see how much has been deposited, right? Everything is already arranged mathematically. every gambler who continues to play without a jackpot and continues to get big losses, he will continue to play until he gets the jackpot. This is the beginning of them becoming addicts.

This is because winning gives joy and increase your bankroll. Even people that are gambling for fun wouldn't never put it in their mind of losing because since they are disciplined gamblers, they will love to spend less of their income on gambling and play more games. So if they win, it will be a plus to their upfront games that they will bet on. It is in human that every good things is worth having over and over again and this also applies to gamble. The more you win the more you keep playing because you believe that you will continue winning, but most times this turns out to be the opposite.

Perhaps you are right, the jackpot is something that changes the life of the winner but also affects emotions. I can't imagine what kind of explosion of endorphins occurs in a person's head, and perhaps for the brain it is much more valuable than the actual gain in monetary terms. And it's scary, because it's very difficult to calm down in this state. And only a few will be able to tell themselves: I was just lucky, I need to calm down, take the money and leave the world of gambling.

When emotion do kicks in then this is the time that you would really be forgetting all of those things that you have set earlier like;

"I would stop if i have lost all my balance"
"I wont stop until i would hit up the jackpot"
"If i do win, the i might win the second one"

These kind of thinking will really be pushing up yourself to play even more and this is something that you should really be that careful on taking up
such action because if you do make yourself that careless then you would really be putting yourself on trouble. These things wont really be an issue for me
as long it would really be just that fair and square then i wont really be making myself that dubious on the games that im playing.
Just have the control then youre good to go.

The change from someone hitting a jackpot from gambling won't last long and it's only temporary because soon they'll be back to risking that money on gambling in the next few sessions and then losing again, on the other hand I would say it's a real victory if you can refrain from putting that money back into gambling, but I think that kind of defense is quite difficult to do, like humans when they have managed to get something quite easily then obviously they will come back again with the intention of getting a much bigger amount.

The burst of endorphins they feel when they get such a surprise from luck makes them feel like they have the upper hand, assuming that they already have a way to get the next win is very certain in the brain system, and after that the overreaction is likely to increase. Basically, it is not uncommon or even the first scenario for people to get into deeper and deeper involvement in what we call addiction.

The confusion in the process of gambling is completely different from a person who has time to reflect on it and see silly problems that he himself does not want. To be more precise, it is the behavior of a gambling addict who just wants to continue without stopping, and the greater the greed, there will be no stopping until the addict loses all the money on the next bets.

Psychological behavior is influenced by external influences, it is gentle and exciting, making it difficult for players to know the mistakes behind them. So before deciding on something that is a big risk, always think about your next life, and the impact on your family. I think the moral core of doing anything other than gambling, whether lucky or not, is to understand that this field is not for the majority to win.

The gambler after getting some multiple of their betting,he will like to check of their luck survival.Most of the gamblers was not satisfied with some dollars after the winning,he will look more from the same gambling site.But they had forgot about the bad luck which is the problem of the gamblers in gambling site.Not only according to the mathematics,according to the gambling algorithm also the second luck is just an illusion in the gambling.


The winnings will give us joy,but the loss also give us the sorrow.Many of us not ready to talk about the dark side of the gambling,the gamblers should accept both the condition before start of the game in gambling sites.The gamblers should withdraw after their winnings is my opinion on this.

I’m glad that you understand this, the winnings go to a few, and those who keep it are very few, I would even say that there are almost none. The main thing is that they won’t come back after a while. It’s interesting that there are those who won more than $1 million and never dealt with gambling again (I need to find interviews with such people, I’m interested in what they think and think about). I take my hat off to them, it's cool. You still need to control yourself and not make a mistake, this is much more important than trying to do everything perfectly correctly. We can't be robots.

Unconsciously, the gambler has compounded his money.
There is no mathematical calculation that can be reconciled with this, the system has its own methods that we ourselves don't know the technicalities of.

According to personal experience, there is no guarantee that I will win if I use the money I have doubled to bet again.
That's just a trick of the human brain, when its mind is preoccupied with winning, it automatically becomes greedier.

If they win, then they will do it again, until they lose and realize it doesn't work.

The probability to win in gambling is low and that numbers didn’t lie because that is the reality.
Now being greedy is something that you should always avoid because in gambling, its hard to get the same winning result so if you are able to have the profit better to get your capital out and secure some profit before you gamble again or you can just totally leave and enjoy your whole profit.

I wouldn't called that as a greedy act but there are gamblers who just wants to tried their luck more. Others are able to get a win more while unfortunately, there are others who are not able to control themselves and at the end, their whole bankroll plus winnings were lose.

For sure if you feel the same luck when doing gambling, you will try even more to play and won't stop because you feel lucky at that time.

It's now on your own actions if you will get out immediately after a big win or you will try your luck for more rolls since you are lucky.

I have seen gamblers doing this many times, and 90% of the time, it doesn't have a happy end for the users. They end up losing it all. But some lucky users get big wins back to back, and i consider myself one of those lucky users.

As you can see on this thread, i hit a x9900 and 2 minutes after that i get another x9900... And i know maths says it shouldn't happen, but luck says it's possible.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466346.msg62847426#msg62847426

Now, when i win big i take like 90% of the profit and keep betting until lose the other 10%, that way i don't feel bad after my session.

Everyone has a greedy nature, and is dissatisfied with what they have got, so most gamblers who have won are likely to continue playing by increasing the amount of their bets which could result in them losing the winnings they have earned as well as their capital. what they are betting on, because the winnings they have obtained are a lure or bait given by the gambling company to convince them of gambling which can provide very big wins which can even change someone's life even if the winnings they have obtained are lost and also their capital is also lost, but chances are they will tell their friends that the site they played on was good, and also maybe when they lost their winnings they at least thought they could get their winnings back if they gambled again.

but this is the opposite, where luck doesn't seem to last long for someone, so if they have won, it's best to cash in the winnings they've gotten or at least cash out some of the winnings with the amount of capital they initially deposited, that way even if they lose their winnings At least the capital they bet at the beginning is still safe and has not been reduced.

That's called a gambler's instinct, a gambler, when winning, thinks that they are going to win more, and when they are losing, they think that they are going to win in the next bet but that next bet never comes but they still don't lose hope. A gambler never leaves hope unless it's a responsible and sensible gambler who understands that they are just going to keep losing if they continue either after a winning streak/big win or if they are constantly losing their money in a game.

You can barely talk sense into such a gambler who doesn't listen to themselves because of the greed that darkens their mind once they start winning, they only start thinking of winning after that and can never think of the negative consequences of their actions or think of exiting while they are still in profit.

The gambler who had good intentions to win will bet on the most possibility option in the gambling site.The gambler who find the best possibility in the gambling can easy make money from the gambling site,but most of the gamblers won’t satisfied with their win.So they will do the betting for the longer period,the gambling loss may occur as the mathematics law defines of loss after the win.If the gamblers who not satisfied with the small win may forced to face the big loss in the gambling site.After this the gambler should not spread bad about the gambling sites.The reason for the gambling loss is he doesn’t agree with the gambling giving winnings for their gambling game.

These choices that gamblers make aren't logical and can't be mathematically explained, just like a rabbit in the headlights keeps running straight, a gambler who hits a winning streak gains confidence to play more and a gambler on a losing streak thinks he has to come even to go home, or that there's a big win just waiting for him next time he bets, he just has to go through all the hurdles of lost games to get to that one.

Don't expect any hardened gambler to be able to explain why they're doing it. They just do, and if you come between them and the game, you're the enemy, not the casino. They'll attack you, even when you're friend or family.

It’s true, mathematics is a thing against which nothing can be done. And if you flip a coin, then each time the chance of the side not falling out will increase. Game theory and mathematical statistics are the most interesting branches of mathematics. But the fact is that most people are uneducated in this regard, I don’t want to offend anyone with these words, on the contrary, among gamblers, mostly smart people, but they are proud and believe in their luck. But you need to approach the game with cold calculation. Nothing in our lives is determined - life is one huge RANDOM and we need to understand and accept this. And if you come to terms with this, then life becomes easier, and forecasting too.

Where do you get that luck from dude? Does mathematics have a general law? I don't really get you and I how you will expatiate more on what you mean by chance of law becomes lesser. Gambling is all about luck except we are betting on skill games that requires more of our skills for us to win a bet. Even the bet too can be more of luck because I have seen many people that bet on games I never believe they could win that game. Whether we are always lucky or not we need to gamble responsibly and make sure we don't gamble too much.

I see this as a common behaviour by gamblers who are just blinded by greed. If you win a game and you have made a large profit, the first thing that's needed for you to do is to withdraw more than half of the money down to your wallet or account, whichever one you like making use of, and then if you still need to lay,  you can leave a small amount of that money in there that you can use to try luck back.
 
But it will be very foolish of the person if they think that the same luck that made them win the first time will continue again to the next game, as that might only lead them to losing everything they have won from the first game. If they don't apply wisdom, the casino will never say they won't take back what they have given to you; in fact,  that's what they even want from you to continue losing.

You are correct. One of the biggest reasons why they will continue betting is the increase in bankroll. After a jackpot, we have that opportunity to test our luck and maybe bet 1/10 of those profits. A gambler will definitely be brave enough to do that not thinking about the profit being cut by 10 percent. The feeling of, it won't matter to him because the jackpot was too high.
Another reason is the curiosity of the unknown. Betting another set after a multi-win becomes normal to a gambler who has been doing this for most of his gambling sessions because it has become a habit.
How I wish I saved all my graphs on what's happening after a multi-win so I can share it with you guys. It's always a sharp red downward graph after a jackpot and it happened a lot of times in my experience. The worst thing is, it's going to happen at any original games so a good solution would be to switch to sports or slots.

Wenn you have been trying to win something for über sometime and you have always been failing, you will consider those times, which you have been losing, as not being your lucky day. Und wenn eventually luck comes to your side for just einen bestimmten Day und you where able to win einen Game, that Period, you will also consider that Day your Lucky Day – it's normal. 
 
While you consider that your lucky day, going back all in is not a wise thing to do unless you are not a responsible gambler. The best thing to do is to first remove your profit from the amount won, then you can continue gambling, but why gambling? You should always not forget to set a lose limit and always keep to that limit, and not to allow your self lose focus as a result of trying to chase lose or luck thinking: There is another big win, if you can try again. If the person loses to his daily limit, they should

Heater is what gamblers usually call that, reason being that it's a particular section when you're gambling where most pressure is at. Now, as for the reason why gamblers tend to do the stupid thing and bet higher on multipliers is because they can flip their losses easily even if they win just a single round in that. I've experienced this myself first hand and it was very awesome to say the least. The argument for those consistent winners who still keep on betting on heaters despite the fact that they already won is of course, to make more money.

Does this make sense to an outsider? No? Is there a method to their madness? Yes. So in these types of situation do I mostly exempt gambling for profit since there's a really good chance in these settings, but then again, the losses will suck too, if that's a gamble you're willing to make, then so be it.

This is as a result of the joy most of them gets from winning for the very first time in their life and most people who happens to think this way are just those who are new to gambling because an experienced gambler should be able to know that winning don’t happen that way it’s something that they can’t control because you win now does not mean your next game will be successful it’s better to take home what you have won than for you to continue playing and lose all that you have won to gambling.

Those newbies who are new to gambler are just too eager to win more and multiply their money which is the reason my most of them don’t end up making something out of it, because they gamble until they have exhausted all that they have left with the hope and intention that their day to make it have finally arrive why not make good use of that chance, making good use of that chance is what usually take them to losing.

A gambler can only choose which game he thinks can provide big chance of winning and this is just like having confidence in one of the game choices in the casino.
After all, no gambler knows when they will be able to get larger multiplier, but there is thought that often occurs where gamblers think they will be able to get the same win or multiplier.
But apart from that, it can be called feeling of dissatisfaction with what you have got, there are also other factors such as the pursuit of making money, but I still can't understand how gamblers have thoughts like that.
I sure they have experienced repeated failures several times because of their own ambition but they don't learn from these failures and still believe in clear beliefs that only bring destruction, isn't this very detrimental?
The actual calculation in mathematical law is that there will always be price that must be paid if you get profit and defeat is the payment. We must understand logically that there is no victory without defeat.
No one can avoid it but we can minimize it by being wise gamblers, we must be able to save or withdraw certain amount of winnings to protect it so that when we lose we don't lose anything bigger than the winnings we get.

Actually I think it is. It is natural for us gamblers to continue whenever we get a good result and especially if we hit a massive multiplier. I never heard that a casino encourages people to play more whenever they are lucky. There is no need for them to say this, and I think, or they think it will going to sound too good to be true.

But, there is a saying about gambling/gamblers that gamblers are stopping right before they hit the jackpot. IDK if the casino owners are also involved with that but better if we won't believe on that because what for sure is real is that gambling owners are always going to win at the end. That is due to the house edge.

You apparently correct but most times, even the games that we don't trust win but the ones we trust get cut sometimes, however I do like to say that luck is the number one thing a gambler should pray for and not to trust an odd because no odd is sure, every odds have a chance of losing.
No body will ever tell you this unless you sit down to think about it, this same situations makes most gamblers to gamble more and also lose more anytime they are trying to chase their losses.
Although I don't blame those gamblers that are trying to chase their losses because most of them have use a loan money to gamble or someone's money, but the truth is that no gambler should ever use a loan money to gamble, instead they should not gamble if they done have the money to catch the fun.

Addicted gambler doesn't even care with math, if they care with match they already know they can't make money through gambling due to house edge. When they hit huge multipliers and earn a lot money, they think the amount they make is a bonus, so they will gamble it without any pressure in order to earn more.

That's why someone can't stop to gamble, either you lose or win, you will keep gamble.

Your approach is good and can save a lot of gamblers, but if they are truly in for the game, I don't see a reason why they should be often quick to withdraw their profits simply because they gained. What I expect from every gambler is to have their budgets and plans around their calculative way of playing their games. Discipline and determination are also needed here. It would be very unwise for you to believe that withdrawing some part of the money has totally prevented you from making mistakes of overplaying. I have seen cases where the gambler will win and withdraw almost the money in the account, but this same person will still come back again to play more, and after losing the little money left, they keep depositing more money and also paying transaction fees. Why not keep the money there and save yourself the stress?

So, there is no perfect way to go about gambling, but for gamblers to know what they are doing and ensure that they are not addicted or acting based on emotions. The best in gambling is for us to, even before starting, know what it takes to be a responsible gambler and to also know what to do that will help us and what to do that will affect us negatively. To crown it all, a very good managerial approach to gambling might be the way out in this regard and that entails the management of the account of the gambler and also the management of his psychology as well. They should be enough to stabilize the issue and make sure that the gambler does as they plan to do, which is why planning beforehand is very important in this regard.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling only think about gambling. They don't care about mathematics because they care about how they can place bets with their money and win.
But when they win from gambling and win, they don't want to stop gambling but even more want to get another win even though they already know that they won't necessarily be able to win again in the next game or round.
Maybe if they lose at gambling, they will think they can win in the next game.
And that's why many gamblers don't immediately cash out their winnings. They still want another win, so they just keep gambling until they get another win. But it won't be as easy as they imagine.

To understand this more better, mathematics is needed in gambling but not necessarily the reason behind why any gambler should make winning, when we are gambling, we also needs to have some mathematical reasonings to have in mind and use for the best of our own interest, this will aid the performance on what we make as decisions on some particular games we are playing, this is more of having a logical reasoning ability and not directly the applicable use of mathematical functions in gambling, most happens subconsciously.

I have seen many youtubers and streamers that if they win one time they win more often I don't know why but maybe they are lucky enough to win every game or most of the time.
It can happen sometimes but we do not need to play more thinking it is my lucky day, it takes just minutes for casino to make your lucky day into unluckiest day of the life.
so I just secure my profits after a big win but it happens with me very less I just lose and always lose.

Doesn't it look like they're swaying with chance and choice? We don't understand why they chase losses when the math behind gambling is so harsh.  It's more than just being content and having a big win. A deeper psychic journey happens. Players have to deal with cognitive errors and the odds. The gambler's fallacy, which says that chance events in the past can change what will happen in the future, is a common mistake. They want more than just a win; they want proof that they can beat the odds

Our view on gambling needs to be more nuanced. What we call it is harmful, but isn't it more complicated? Yes, both desire and failure can be bad, and the math behind gambling means that you can't help but lose. But realizing this is the first step toward a better way of doing things. You said that smart gambling needs balance and knowing yourself. It means knowing when to stop, being aware of the risks, and being okay with both wins and loses. Along with gambling, it teaches you how to deal with risks, set realistic goals, and enjoy the trip

You say the simple right things. And your arguments are logical. But there is a big problem for some people that does not allow them to understand this. Some people turn off rational thinking when they lose money or win money. Both can lead to problems. If a person could control himself, he would take the money and leave instead of losing every penny

People are often seeing, I have x and the higher the multiplier means I could have x multiplied by y. It is driven by pure greed, let's be frank, and is what keeps casino and bookmakers in business. Everyone tries to beat the bookmaker, but it's one of the oldest professions around and with a bit of basic knowledge can be very profitable. A lot of gamblers also aren't interested in the math or may simply not be able to comprehend the magnitude of odds against them. It's why parlays/multibets are so profitable, because not only do bookmakers knock down the odds but string together multiple high odds makes the chances a player will lose exponentially higher. So yes, everyone should try to refine and understand the basic math involved in games.

They are not thinking about the Math here actually, they are more focus with their emotion and thinking about the luck after wining. Gamblers can be very greedy after winning and that’s normal. Who will think about Math in that situation? Not unless you have you strategy in the first place then this is possible. If you are going to gamble and will able to get big win, make sure that you have your exit plan and know how to secure some profit.

Your point emphasizes gambling's unpredictability and hazards. In our world, luck rules and certainty is an illusion. Despite this, gamblers often believe they can beat the system. It's a psychological trap - "beating the odds" is appealing but unlikely. We must acknowledge this.

A friend, an enthusiastic gambler, thought he had perfected betting. He kept betting after losing, believing his strategy was good. He was riding chance, but reality was cruel. His example shows that gambling, especially with debts, is risky. Leisure activities should be done with money you can lose.

Gambling to recover losses is risky, especially with borrowed money. A spiral of loss and desperation typically results. Gamblers must accept this fact and bet wisely, acknowledging luck and our boundaries.

Odds are variable and unknown in many games, its why some prefer to calculate precisely in card games that were being played a hundred years ago or more.   Some games the amount of luck required to win can be external to any one user, it can be the machine itself will pay out by its own determinations.  I think I do prefer the known odds in as much as they are variable but the game so well played that its easier to state the outcome on average over a hundred tries.  It really depends what people prefer to play and how,  I've done well on slots but now I think back Im not sure how I pulled it off especially except I played fairly low in my bets but many spins and tried to cash out each day when ahead so that I may come back.  Others want to press the luck till it breaks then walk, its hard to know when for sure.

I know the law of gravity but what is the law of mathematics regarding luck?  Did you mean probability?

Strange but it make sense, let say you bet $1 and hit 100x so the reward will be $100 and you decided to continue because you felt the luck factor so I won't be surprised if you did repeat $1 bet 10 times or 20 times even after the continuous bust, it doesn't make any sense if they lose 99 times and believe that remaining 1 will give another 100x.

That's right, the chance of luck is very low when it comes to gambling. There are also people who really hope to win again once they win, you can't take that away from a gambler but you must still control yourself, you must know when to stop. The others are losing their self-discipline, they forget their responsibility as gamblers, so winning ends up in tears.

Gamblers are believers. Sadly they are not believers of math. They are believers of luck. The little they know though, luck is also based on math... The whole point of gambling is to see if you are lucky in that particular moment. Math people and luck people (gamblers) see this event differently. Math people know that you can be lucky if you play once or twice and get away with it while gamblers (luck believers) think they can keep getting lucky if they keep playing. The house edge ensures the profits for the casino in the long run, so luck believers will always get poorer and poorer while math believers won't.

I don't know what you mean by math, but I see he's just trying his luck hoping for a bigger win. Of course, if you gamble like this you will keep losing because you can't control when you win, in other words we have become greedy.

Because believe it or not, if you play gambling there are no consecutive wins even though the percentage is very small, the winning algorithm is like that, if you have won it will be difficult to win again unless you move to another game. . The only advice is that if you have won, you should stop for a moment and continue again later because if you follow your desires by doubling your winnings you will regret it if you lose.

My opinion in this post was the math may be considered as probability.Correct me,if I was wrong in the assumption.But the previous post also stated the math as the probability in the gambling,we know probability was the concept of mathematics.The gamblers mostly get the greedy and it was no limit to the gamblers.This was the main reason for the gamblers to loss the money after the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should wait for the certain period after the continuous win in the gambling,playing for longer duration will leads to big losses in the gambling site.


The gambling had the probability of winning and losing in the equal level.But most of the gamblers fail to crack the algorithm of the gambling site may leads to the loss of money at the initial stage of the game.The gamblers who loss at the starting stage will not back to the gambling again.

I have always thought that every casino game has to have a lot of mathematics, formulas and a lot of logic. In addition , we can do Several things that have to do with mathematical modeling and that can be related to game theory and everything that has to do with it. with the random, that is why when we focus on trying to make any movement of money , because things Happen in a more difficult way, since I was in the U, I have tried to look for all the patterns in the roulette wheels, to see which bet can be the most winning, in this order of ideas I tell myself that it is something very difficult , and almost impossible, but not Impossible, because randomness is the factor that Always makes us lose or win, in In the case that we look for schemes or patterns, what is Random makes us lose and what we do without thinking becomes Random , and that is something that is very difficult to determine.

From what I have seen, the casinos are Quite Jealous with their Machines , I don't know if it is Provably Fair and for anything that has to do with it , the casinos are Practically very jealous in that regard and the Provably Fair determines a lot of what they It has to do with the legality of the casinos and it is also very Accepted by the players , for everything it represents , I have seen many threads here in the forum that say that they already beat the Probably Fair, which is something that does not have sense, but things are like that, there are many people who are always looking for a way to win whatever it takes, but I think that when Things are done to be Able to win, it is something that algorithms do to try to read what the system does, and what The seed and everything it has in its technical part is what gives Confidence, this is something that not Everyone knows but between that and Google's random system, it can be done that the Greatest Acceptance is there, that is why we We must consider all this before playing.

For me it makes a lot of sense to Know the mathematics applied to games of chance , and with respect to the random factor it is Quite difficult to win when it comes out, and what is not Known is that this random factor is Present at any moment of the Game.

Forget about math , instead look for greed  ;D ;)

Those people are mostly the kind of person that sees gambling as opportunity to become rich in an instant , and mostly a lazy kind of person that hates having Daily Job but loves sitting in the table seeking for luck .

Jackpot is only comes ones in a million , but gamblers mostly believe they are the one  ;D ending? they keep looking for bigger and bigger winning.
if we know how to handle this then we will be safe in gambling.

That's following the old saying strike while the iron is hot, but it does not apply to gamble in gambling once you win a big amount, and you continue to play there's a tendency that you will lose because you are focused on trying hard to recover your losses and winning more.

We all know that gambling is a game of luck and when you're looking for luck most of the time it will not favor you, the house edge will always beat you, and you can only continue playing if you're here to have fun and don't care about your losses, because the house edge will always play out.

In gambling, you need to know your limitations, and you need to moderate your greed, never think that it's your lucky day and you can play all the way and recover all your losses, many have tried and lost their winnings.

Based on my own experiences mate ,  better to stand from the table once you hit a good amount because trust me the longer to stayed there is the bigger you will lose again those amount , why not stand for a while and come back tomorrow that just trying to drain your luck? this is why many gamblers goes home a loser because of greediness.

When you mention a substantial amount, it's necessary to be specific. Without a defined target, you're akin to sailing a boat without direction. This aspect must be considered to ensure sustained profitability. Greediness often leads people to violate their own rules. For instance, $1000 may seem like a sufficient amount before the game, but during a winning streak, the desire for more might prompt you to take greater risks.

However, luck is transient, and there's a possibility of losing your winnings. This is when self-reflection becomes crucial, as losing control could become a reality.