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Title: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 07:32:45 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Oshosondy on December 16, 2023, 07:51:24 PM
The reason I do not gamble with small leagues is because of match fixing, although I do not know if truly it is existing frequently there. I go for top leagues like the EPL, Seria A, Bundesliga, French Lique 1 and those like that.

But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Not a problem there. Just do not go for small leagues.

Do not try to think you can see some fixed matches, they are very hard to know and some people are using it to scam people.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Quidat on December 16, 2023, 07:59:44 PM

But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Not a problem there. Just do not go for small leagues.

Do not try to think you can see some fixed matches, they are very hard to know and some people are using it to scam people.
I agree with this on which those match fixing could be that often see with those small leagues.This is why im not really that a fan on taking up some bets with those lines but rather
sticking into bigger ones on which it is really less likely or doesnt really happen on bigger ones. Match fixing does really exist but if you are dealing with those
bigger ones then it is not that just possible because we know that odd actions will really be leading out that tons of questions if ever that happens.  ;D


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Westinhome on December 16, 2023, 08:06:27 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

The gambler chose the best website to make the winning with no doubt.The stake will be the better website for the gambling,because it was the best gambling website in the world.The match fixing was affect the big betting gamblers,because the website will look to fix the match against the biggest betting money.Even in the World Cup Cricket,Some unofficial news was spread around us of the match was involved of 5million dollars worth of gambling in the Final match.Because as we know the India was in the strongest position with 10/10,but the final results purely seems like match fixing.The gambling owner only target against the maximum opinion of the game.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Frankolala on December 16, 2023, 08:09:31 PM
When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: btc_angela on December 16, 2023, 08:48:07 PM

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I would say that I also witnessed match fixing in a horse race, it's obvious that the jockey, even though his horse is what we call outstanding favorite, will suddenly lose the race for unknown circumstance but you can see that he really didn't push the horse to it's limit and allow other horses to  get past him.

So yeah, I would say that it's common occurrence here, but what the stewart will do is just suspend the jockey for that x races.

But after that he will be back again with that kind of match fixing allowing only a few bettors to win and let the horse bettors down with huge amount of money.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: _act_ on December 16, 2023, 08:51:19 PM
When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.
Match fixing is an offense all over the world in any country, both in small or big countries. Anyone that is found involved are sanctioned. But despite the consequences and punishment, some club managers in small leagues still try ways to fix matches. One of the managers that has been the national team coach before in my country was found with match fixing and he was sanctioned. I do not know if because his mother was kidnapped was the reason because the adductors demanded for huge amount of money.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Hispo on December 16, 2023, 08:53:04 PM
It does not concern me and it has not been something which have concerned anyone in my family who have partaken in sportbetting for years. I mostly agree with the advices those in this thread have given and only stick to big leagues in order to avoid to get scammed by match fixers within smaller leagues.

Though, I must admit that the fact one cannot follow and bet in local sport events as one would like in case of being interested in them is quite discouraging... For example, here in my country we sadly suffer from an increasing degree of corruption and bad behavior by authorities, so I do not have any doubt there is match fixing going on as we speak with small leagues in Football and baseball. Which is bad news for fans of our national sports. The worst part about it is there is a lot of gullible people and bettors who do not even image there could be military and politicians getting involved with such scheme in this nation, in the end they will mostly get their money stripped from them in a very unfair way.
Another reason I just like to bet when comes to World Cup or big events like the American Cup.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 16, 2023, 08:57:11 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

Yes, it can also be in big league as well, maybe the chances are slim to the teams to go and fixed their matches, but still the possibility is there.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It's not going to be healthy for gambler if they are the victims of match fixing. Just imagine you gamble and you think that base on your analysis, your team is going to win. And then you bet on them, but suddenly everything doesn't look right as everyone colluded to fixed the match. Hence you lose your bet and others too and only those people behind benefited. And then they can do the same process over and over again. For others as sports fan, maybe it doesn't bother them, but as a gambler definitely, you will find something is at odd with those kind of fix matches.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: iv4n on December 16, 2023, 09:00:23 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It's hard to tell, I think we all learned that fixed games are everywhere... but who would really tell if some game is fixed or not? Of course, losers will complain, but winners will stand up for otherwise... as always! :)

I believe there are fixed games in every sport, but it's really hard to find which games are fixed... fixing games is done on some really high levels, ordinary people like us don't have access to that.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: GxSTxV on December 16, 2023, 09:02:18 PM
There's Indeed something we call match fixing in all sports leagues, especially the small leagues and if we talk about local football leagues on my country, I would certainly and sure that even first professional league has many matches where teams manipulate the final score in a disgusting way and that's for money of course.
In gambling and sport betting, If you are worried that one day you set a huge sum betting and then the match end up being fixed and you lose that bet. I suggest betting only in known leagues, LaLiga, UCL, premier league.....

When we talk about fixed matches some decades ago, even most knows team they are evolved in that. Corruption is everywhere, you can't really avoid that or even know if that game is really fixed even when you win the bet. You best choice is to bet with average sums of money only.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: electronicash on December 16, 2023, 09:06:17 PM
its likely common in boxing since this sport is governed by powerful organizations. they provide a very little window for someone to see whether a match is fixed. but certainly, some people can see the details of it, and gives them a hunch of what could happen especially to hyped fights.

when fury vs ngannou was talked about on the big network, they were talking about fury deciding how big the size of the ring was, and it was interpreted that the fight would end in a decision. because they have both rooms to run around.

i saw this joe rogan podcast where they discussed some rigged fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZN8MIY6lg


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: |MINER| on December 16, 2023, 09:11:53 PM
Match Fixing can never be a good thing to any sports. And those and all players who involve themselves in this match fixing are betraying not only their team but the entire team or country. They might make some money doing this but the moral of the story is that they ruin the fun of the game. I think those who do match fixing should be punished more severely.  If Allready there are many instances of match-fixing being thrown out of the game for life.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Kemarit on December 16, 2023, 09:22:02 PM
its likely common in boxing since this sport is governed by powerful organizations. they provide a very little window for someone to see whether a match is fixed. but certainly, some people can see the details of it, and gives them a hunch of what could happen especially to hyped fights.

when fury vs ngannou was talked about on the big network, they were talking about fury deciding how big the size of the ring was, and it was interpreted that the fight would end in a decision. because they have both rooms to run around.

i saw this joe rogan podcast where they discussed some rigged fights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZN8MIY6lg

As far as I know in boxing, yeah, but probably today, it's less unlike in the 40's-60's wherein there were reports that Mafia is taking over boxing world and fixing matches. And then there is the point shaving in collegiate basketball if I'm not mistaken. And obviously in small league in football in some countries. So it's really prevalent to the point that we can call that it's becoming a norm.

As for our concern, yes, everyone should be, we as sports fanatics wanted to see a all even field, or at least even if the team that you are supporting is the underdog, they will give everything to win, vice versa with the favorite. But if you see that teams are not performing well and just going to the motions of playing and in the case of boxing, taking a dive to end the fight, then we are going to be annoyed by it.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Docnaster on December 16, 2023, 09:24:34 PM
When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.
I've read about numerous cases of match fixing and most of them I think are reported from small countries of the world. Fixing a match is mostly done by heavy gamblers and it was common in the olden days of football because the current technological advancements will expose moments that'll make football governing body FIFA to know teams that are into match fixing.  When it was common in football, match fixing was one of the main factors that was killing the excitement in football but thanks to heavy punishments from FIFA against any club or national team that engages in match fixing, it's now a rare to find it in modern day football especially in the European leagues.

Football is very interesting and the most talked about kind of sports because of the fun that comes with surprising results that was very unpredictable before the kick off of football games but when match fixing is involved I football, it becomes a very boring sports.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: famososMuertos on December 16, 2023, 09:33:17 PM
#TBT

The most reputable professional leagues in the world have guards who monitor live games to prevent these match-fixing situations.

But, any game that allows betting has the "risk" of being rigged, but it is difficult to cover it nowadays. There is a very well documented case about an NBA referee, these referees are very well paid for his work, in this case earning more than $600,000 a year as a referee, plus all his prestige, etc. He was involved in a gambling case rigged.

It's on Netflix, there's also the case of Juventus and the reality is that the list is long of rigged games, and there are extremes, such as the case in which a player, I don't remember which league, after two minutes, a player throw the ball into the corner flagrant manner, it was investigated and a bet for such a situation.

But fortunately they are in a way a small percentage of the entire amount of games and bets that are made, in any case the answer is that they do exist, oh, yes.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 16, 2023, 09:36:11 PM
Match Fixing can never be a good thing to any sports. And those and all players who involve themselves in this match fixing are betraying not only their team but the entire team or country. They might make some money doing this but the moral of the story is that they ruin the fun of the game. I think those who do match fixing should be punished more severely.  If Allready there are many instances of match-fixing being thrown out of the game for life.

True that, match fixing lowers the integrity of the league.  Although it does not concern me whether the match is fixed or not since we never knew it anyway.  I just put my wager to the team that what I feel is more likely to win besides it is what gambling for.

Football is very interesting and the most talked about kind of sports because of the fun that comes with surprising results that was very unpredictable before the kick off of football games but when match fixing is involved I football, it becomes a very boring sports.

Match fixing is not only exclusive in football matches, even boxer and other sports are often observed to be exploited by these match fixing activities.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: danherbias07 on December 16, 2023, 09:42:28 PM
I think it just happens on small leagues and I have never seen a small league bet on reputable sports bookies. Or, there may be sports that I don't know which offer those types of bets. If this happens in popular leagues then I doubt people will not see it. With so many cameras nowadays and many critics of sports, there will always be someone who will put it on social media to scare away fans and gamblers and I don't think any big league would like that to happen.
In small leagues, they might not care especially those with less promotions because it won't hurt them. But I seriously doubt that popular leagues would jeopardize their business just to make a fixed match and profit from it. It's better to make a long-term profit than a one-time millionaire and lose all your fans because of one craziness and greed.
I can see a higher chance of match-fixing in electronic games though, it can happen without our knowledge and even those who own the business.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: alastantiger on December 16, 2023, 09:54:47 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Since the first time I read about match fixing, I have looked for fixed games but nothing. I am really curious to get at least one game and see how it ends as like really predicted by someone.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 16, 2023, 10:22:17 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 16, 2023, 10:39:58 PM
The sports I bet I don't think about it too often.  I stay away from college betting because it would be too easy (and cheap) for someone to pay off one of the players since they really don't make a salary.  In the top US pro sports I'm not sure if it's worth it for them to even try.  I guess the worst one I've seen in awhile is in the NBA with the ref who was on the books of the mob Tim Donaghy I think it was.  Either way I don't think it's prevalent enough to worry about.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 16, 2023, 10:41:28 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.


What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Even as imaginary as it sounds, its still connected to reality. People have often stated concerns on how matches are either bought/sold or fixed, although there has not been an evidence as to physically seeing a match that is being sold, apart from suspicions and leads and corresponding actions of correction taken, I believe it happens often and many times than not.

If football is business then whatever pays can be applied, remember people need to be paid in order for the game to continue and the business running. If keeping the business means fixtures, I think it will be sustained even behind closed doors as the regulatory body frowns at it.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: alani123 on December 16, 2023, 10:42:09 PM
The reason I do not gamble with small leagues is because of match fixing, although I do not know if truly it is existing frequently there. I go for top leagues like the EPL, Seria A, Bundesliga, French Lique 1 and those like that.

But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Not a problem there. Just do not go for small leagues.

Do not try to think you can see some fixed matches, they are very hard to know and some people are using it to scam people.
Top leagues in big countries like the English Premiere League and the Spanish LaLiga aren't entirely free of match fixing, but probably have the local authorities investing more to counter any attempt to fix matches. But for example even in this year authorities in Spain found evidence of match fixing for matches in 2021 Copa and detained a few individuals involved with top teams. So it's not like it doesn't happen there either, it's just more rare probably end eventually there's justice. But as a person who simply places bets good luck finding justice after two years of investigations end  ;D


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: TimeTeller on December 16, 2023, 10:44:35 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Even as imaginary as it sounds, its still connected to reality. People have often stated concerns on how matches are either bought/sold or fixed, although there has not been an evidence as to physically seeing a match that is being sold, apart from suspicions and leads and corresponding actions of correction taken, I believe it happens often and many times than not.

If football is business then whatever pays can be applied, remember people need to be paid in order for the game to continue and the business running. If keeping the business means fixtures, I think it will be sustained even behind closed doors as the regulatory body frowns at it.

In my opinion, football is hard to fix because you can see their performance outside the field.
Also, like I've read here before, a local basketball league was caught about game fixing because of the obvious performance inside the ring.
Maybe, boxing is much easier as you are only talking about 2 fighters and they can easily make a good showdown without the audience knowing about it.
But I believe game fixing is still happening in so many forms but of course, it is hard to get hard evidence and that's the dilemma.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Slow death on December 16, 2023, 10:46:33 PM
Something I always put in my head: not to place bets on my country's league games. This is because in my opinion they are fixed joes. I know what I'm saying is a strong accusation, but I think that my country's league games are games in which the winner is agreed in the office and on the field the players just follow the script drawn up in the office. There are many unpleasant situations that have happened in football in my country that have led me to lose all the confidence I had in my country's league. the teams in my country's league have the same sponsors, and the companies in my country that sponsor these teams in my country are government companies and the corrupt political party that runs my country manipulates football for political gain

for example when they know that a certain province in my country doesn't like them, so the corrupt political party that governs my country makes the team from that province become champions, in this way the people of that province start to like the corrupt party in the country. my country, it is a very disgusting method but unfortunately it has been happening in my country, which is why I prefer not to bet on teams from my country and I dare say that the people in my country who I know who place sports bets, do not I've been betting on my country's league games. They prefer to bet on league games in European countries, just like I have done.

In my case, I prefer to bet on the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 games. because I trust these leagues, there are no fixed games in these leagues, they are the most popular and best leagues in the world precisely because they have quality and transparency. Due to the high volume of money that these big leagues that I mentioned move, they would hardly get involved in fixed games, knowing that the penalty would cause a catastrophe, while in leagues that don't move a lot of money there is space for fixed games to take place.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: decodx on December 16, 2023, 10:53:15 PM
Fixing matches is for sure a big problem in sports betting.  It's tricky to catch cause folks can do it real subtle-like.  Last few years there's been some famous cases of fixes that got people looking real close at betting.  but it's still hard to stop fixes from happening. and  Could be any league but more so the small ones where teams need money more.

As for match fixing being a common occurrence in leagues I place bets at? I honestly don't know. I hope not.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Saint-loup on December 16, 2023, 10:58:58 PM
Usually the vigorish taken by the bookmakers is higher for small leagues of small countries, it means the RTP of those bets are smaller and it's hard for the punters to make profits on them. It's because there is less datas on those leagues available but also because matches are more likely to be fixed, which can lead to big losses for the bookmakers. Sumo wrestling had a very bad reputation for that, but I had recently the good surprise to see this sporting discipline appearing at some sportsbooks.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: samcrypto on December 16, 2023, 11:25:12 PM
The sports I bet I don't think about it too often.  I stay away from college betting because it would be too easy (and cheap) for someone to pay off one of the players since they really don't make a salary.  In the top US pro sports I'm not sure if it's worth it for them to even try.  I guess the worst one I've seen in awhile is in the NBA with the ref who was on the books of the mob Tim Donaghy I think it was.  Either way I don't think it's prevalent enough to worry about.
Small league are more prone to this although there is no confirmation but we all know, it exist.
I’m also not betting in some sports in my country because I know how corrupt the organization is and its just a waste of time for me. There are rumors in a bigger league but of course they will always deny it as it can ruin their reputation and many might start doubting their integrity.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: coin-investor on December 16, 2023, 11:30:35 PM


What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I don't think it's happening in the higher leagues and big names are involved there's more money to be made and will be made for big names, do you think Canelo, Tank, and Crawford will involve themselves in game fixing knowing that the stake and the prestige that comes with every fight, game fixing can happen in small fights and minor leagues but when titles are involved or you are in a run to become big names in boxing every fighter do not want to involve in a controversy that may tarnish their reputation on their career.
Big names can fix the fight by cherry-picking their opponents but I don't think they will fix it by paying their opponents or organizations manipulating big names in boxing, all the news about game fixing in big circuits are just speculation.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Woodie on December 17, 2023, 12:12:19 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.
The fact that everyone has a price makes match fixing a bit easier because the number of people gambling has risen exponentially and sometimes players aren't just paid enough!

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.
Such leagues just make it easy to fix as fewer prying eyes means easy game for the mafias..

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
Actually if week in week out results aren't showing consistency,  then am never entertaining such a league as it's hurting my pocket not my viewing pleasure...and I don't want to be hard headed on such...

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
One of the biggest football leagues I know is the Premier league and with so many players exposed to the gambling world makes it easy for them to fix matches , and the problem is that its not always based on results but card markets can be affected, shots on target, team X not to score etc and at the moment I think the game we love has been infiltrated by these gambling mafias and there is nothing we can do!


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: rahmad2nd on December 17, 2023, 12:24:51 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

If we talk about football, currently football is equipped with various technological features, one of which is VAR.  one of its functions or benefits, is to avoid the practice of match fixing. However, things related to match fixing will always be interesting for those who have access to make the settings as they wish. however, is there strong evidence to worry that every match presented has the potential for match fixing? of course not, especially for the top leagues. that's why, I only bet on a few top leagues. For other leagues, especially leagues that are not well known, I am not interested at all. except, I really know this league. Therefore, it is important for us, especially those who like football, to know in depth the ins and outs. At least if there is a scenario or practice such as match fixing, we can see the difference. Even though these practices have been neatly packaged in such a way, there will always be differences that can even be suspicious. well, that's why I say, I only bet on top Leagues. apart from that, the system, technology, regulations and everything related to it are more accountable than other leagues that are not well known.

Then the question is, can match fixing happen in the top league? The answer is, maybe yes and maybe no. The problem is, we don't know as long as a case of match fixing is not revealed. at least, the top leagues are more trustworthy and I'm not worried about that. actually there are many factors that make me confident, but it's quite long if we review them. in short, for example in the Premier League, City bought a lot of great players and they spent a lot of money on them. Plus, the trainers are very competent. then why are they doing match fixing, after all they have a solid team. in fact, to get the Champions League title City had to experience many failures and in the end they succeeded for the first time. well, so my answer is very clear, I'm not worried about the top leagues that can be trusted even though the potential will always be there. but in fact, we cannot know as long as a case is not revealed.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 17, 2023, 12:52:23 AM
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Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on December 17, 2023, 01:07:57 AM

In my opinion, football is hard to fix because you can see their performance outside the field.


This sounds strange to many ears and will even be disputed at the highest levels owing to facts that are not evident but these things happen behind closed doors.

More reason why you might not see, hear or even have an evidence of its happenings.

Regulatory bodies are trying to eliminate the possibility of its existence even though they don't agree to its reality.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Richbased on December 17, 2023, 01:33:28 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Well inasmuch as I don't believe in match fixing because every match is being bet on by gamblers so I see no amount that can be used to fix a match that people would not still win a bet and moreover how much can the team boss be able to pay in fixing too many matches in other for them to achieve their aim so you can see that a huge amount of money would be involved so even if a team boss have that intention of buying a match (match fixing) then I suggest he use the money and sign experience and tactical players then definitely his team will win more matches rather than paying huge amount just because you want to favour your team.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wxa7115 on December 17, 2023, 01:46:22 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Match fixing definitely happens, but it is way more prevalent on leagues that may not harbor as much attention as the most popular leagues around the world, as in that case mob bosses can intimidate the players or even the coaches in order to get their desired outcome.

However some high profile cases have appeared over the years, which make it obvious match fixing is more common than what we may think, however I prefer to not think too much about it as I cannot do anything about it anyway.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: tsaroz on December 17, 2023, 02:09:24 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Most of the time, I don't even consider fixing an issue as we have always took zero tolerance policies with fixing and people involved in fixing are handed over a life ban from sports.
There are times fan cry out fixing just because the result was not as expected. I think the event of fixing in world class sports are extremely rare.
High level players and teams are concerned about the image than anything else. And whatever fixing maybe happening, they are mostly in the poorer (economically and morally) places.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Biscutard on December 17, 2023, 02:19:53 AM

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

No experiences so far but fixed match are usually unnoticeable so nobody is going to be concerned of it. Again, nobody knows when or where will match fixing happens and with that we never know if it is pretty common to the league or not the least we can do is to suspect an unusual game to be a fixed match like when we see a stronger team being beaten pretty bad by worst team.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Belarge on December 17, 2023, 03:36:51 AM
No experiences so far but fixed match are usually unnoticeable so nobody is going to be concerned of it. Again, nobody knows when or where will match fixing happens and with that we never know if it is pretty common to the league or not the least we can do is to suspect an unusual game to be a fixed match like when we see a stronger team being beaten pretty bad by worst team.

We can grow from worst form to a better one and can also decrease from better to worst. In anything or activities engaged, we ensure to make good decisions that will help us today or tomorrow. Worst clubs also have fans who also places hope someday that they will be able to smile again when their perspective favorites clubs start doing better in league matches. I've witnessed quite reasonable amounts generated from the system, there are so many ways to comprehend the system and ensure we're ways on the winning sides. Match fixing happen in our present day and I've seen the vast majority earning from these games fixtures.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Awaklara on December 17, 2023, 04:09:01 AM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: alani123 on December 17, 2023, 11:46:00 PM
Then the question is, can match fixing happen in the top league? The answer is, maybe yes and maybe no. The problem is, we don't know as long as a case of match fixing is not revealed. at least, the top leagues are more trustworthy and I'm not worried about that. actually there are many factors that make me confident, but it's quite long if we review them. in short, for example in the Premier League, City bought a lot of great players and they spent a lot of money on them. Plus, the trainers are very competent. then why are they doing match fixing, after all they have a solid team. in fact, to get the Champions League title City had to experience many failures and in the end they succeeded for the first time. well, so my answer is very clear, I'm not worried about the top leagues that can be trusted even though the potential will always be there. but in fact, we cannot know as long as a case is not revealed.

Sounds about right. We can never be too sure about anything and actually match fixing, even when revealed, takes a while to face justice so as a gambler we'd probably be getting the shorter end of the stick.
So it's actually best to gamble at leagues that have a good reputation and the most precautions at catching match fixing.

Coming from Greece where even the first league and cup are often met with investigations of math fixing, I now understand why some people refuse to actually bet on leagues of countries like mine, even locals. :D The EPL hasn't had a big scandal since 2013 while here there is a scandal nearly every year.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Yatsan on December 17, 2023, 11:51:11 PM
Well, basically yes. It is unfair to gamblers who are betting on their luck. Not all gamblers in the first place can afford a VIP Signal group to also be able to know the fixed matches and outcomes. However, from being here for years, I have never encountered problems related to it probably because of the sports I am engaging myself with which is in NBA. Match fixing is less evident to bigger leagues which quite lessen my worries.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.
As others have mentioned, it still occurs with smaller leagues such as local mobile game tournaments to just name one. It would be frustrating to lose and know that even before the match starts, there are already players who know which team would win.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 17, 2023, 11:56:20 PM
Well, basically yes. It is unfair to gamblers who are betting on their luck. Not all gamblers in the first place can afford a VIP Signal group to also be able to know the fixed matches and outcomes. However, from being here for years, I have never encountered problems related to it probably because of the sports I am engaging myself with which is in NBA. Match fixing is less evident to bigger leagues which quite lessen my worries.
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.
As others have mentioned, it still occurs with smaller leagues such as local mobile game tournaments to just name one. It would be frustrating to lose and know that even before the match starts, there are already players who know which team would win.

small or local leagues, i also believe, are prone to this match fixing scheme. because for bigger leagues, it will require tons of money before it actually happens. of course, you need to pay off those top players of the team, and that translates to huge money as their reputation is on the line. besides, it is hard to fake your moves if everybody is watching on you. so as an athlete, are you going to put yourself in a compromise position where your future career is on the line? because if you will agree with this scheme, it means, you are also mentally prepared that you will lose your job as an athlete. you don't know what evidences they will provide if in case there will be lawsuit.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I believe match-fixing still occurs, regardless of whether it happens in a league that is not very popular or one that is very popular in Europe.
but for me, it doesn't affect my betting. because I bet on the league that I follow. I am not saying that the EPL cannot be separated from match-fixing. if there is a report, there will be an inspection, and I don't care about that. I only bet on teams that I like and whose league developments I follow.
Match fixing may be more visible in leagues that people don't pay much attention to or are not major leagues.
but it might be quite annoying when we bet on a match where there is already match-fixing, so the results may be very visible and not according to what was predicted.

match fixing will always be a part of the sports. however, i think, only few can really pull it off clean and without any rumour. in some sports where few athletes are involved like boxing, UFC, or even tennis, can be of possibility as you are only talking about 2-4 players here. so the discussion and arrangement will only be with them and their respective promoter/manager. but to what gain will they get from it, why they will agree with such situation, may be the underlying factor if they will indeed nod with the plan


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: bitvalak on December 18, 2023, 08:02:17 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Small leagues have a big potential for match fixing, because sponsors for small leagues are usually not large. Therefore, the possibility of match fixing is very possible.
Small clubs that have poor finances are easily tempted by the practice of match fixing. Not a few small club players usually ask to find a football mafia bookie to fix the scores.

This is different from the high league level which prioritizes fair play, and each club is required to have good financial health.
Because this score fixing is complex, the perpetrators can be club owners, club staff, club players and even the federation.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: davis196 on December 18, 2023, 08:08:31 AM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Match fixing is very hard to be discovered and proven with a good enough evidence by the authorities.
In the country where I live, many matches in the football league seem very suspicious, but the authorities don't do anything to investigate.
I don't have concerns about match fixing, because I don't bet on matches in my national football league. I don't think that the regular sports bettors care that much about match fixing. All they care is their own profits from their bets. If they bet on a fixed match and the bet ends up being profitable, they will be happy and totally indifferent towards the fact, that the match was fixed.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: piebeyb on December 18, 2023, 08:22:18 AM
I'm sure everyone already knows about this problem where there are always people who carry out fraudulent actions like match fixing, where usually big people who are in gambling are involved in it to win bets, that's why I never tried to find luck betting in the small leagues. even though sometimes the Odds are very big I won't be tempted to try it, it's enough to lose a few dollars in a small league league let alone betting on a league from my country which is full of match fixing.

But not only in the small leagues, I'm even sure that in the big leagues there will also be match fixing games like that and the bigger the league, of course there will be people who have a lot of money involved in fixing the scores. I sometimes always feel strange when I watch a top club lose against a club. bottom of the board, usually I always think negatively and think that behind the defeat there is a game behind it such as match fixing, even though it's not entirely like that, but it's true that it's more comfortable to gamble in the big leagues, for the small leagues it's best to avoid it


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: passwordnow on December 18, 2023, 08:30:36 AM
It's common in smaller leagues and sporting events. It's also the same in esports in Dota 2 and that's why many pro players on this game have been banned forever in the professional scene and leagues because of what they've done for doing fix matches. It's not worth it if the stake is going to be their potential good career in return of small commissions from these betting sharks that are coordinating with them. There's so much controversy on this because it's a lot of money involved.

But it is not concerning me because when I bet, I make sure that the integrity of the teams involved is there. And I usually avoid the smaller tournaments and leagues because that's where it usually happens. Especially in some specific regions on this game, I'm not going to say it but I think most fans, gamers and bettors are aware of it and even Valve itself is aware of the unusual things happening there but they just keep their mouths shut because of how huge they are contributing to the community and the game itself.

Well, it should be the organizers that will do something about these match fixing issues but they'll never be stopped IMHO. They're going to continue and might just lie low when the heat is there but eventually, they're going to stop and later on will comeback when there's no more alarm from the public and communities that are looking at them.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 18, 2023, 08:42:16 AM
Do you like watching performances called football? What about those fans who are fans of one team or another when the coaching staff buys and sells their games? Yes, I know many cases of such games where players are paid bribes, and it can be disgusting to watch a match when the referee openly acts outside the rules.
Everything that can be sold or bought will be sold. There is no need to worry about those players and teams where there is an agreement between coaches; they are paid everything in both bonuses and bribes. But thinking about how honest sport can be and continuing to love it becomes more and more difficult every year.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: ultrloa on December 18, 2023, 08:48:58 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.

Not unless if there's someone gonna let them know about certain situation, but in real time for sure we cannot tell the game is fix until the players or officials in field will show some signs that they are really after into something and we can see that there's something wrong happening in the game.

For sure they made it confidential because if this is expose to the public for sure it create a lot of trouble to those person involve with this anomaly. There's been case like this happen I read and person involve has been penalize here check this reference link for issue like this I've read before. https://www.espn.ph/basketball/story/_/id/31267409/doj-file-charges-mpbl-game-fixing-issue


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Pierre 2 on December 18, 2023, 08:58:44 AM
I'm sure everyone already knows about this problem where there are always people who carry out fraudulent actions like match fixing, where usually big people who are in gambling are involved in it to win bets, that's why I never tried to find luck betting in the small leagues. even though sometimes the Odds are very big I won't be tempted to try it, it's enough to lose a few dollars in a small league league let alone betting on a league from my country which is full of match fixing.

But not only in the small leagues, I'm even sure that in the big leagues there will also be match fixing games like that and the bigger the league, of course there will be people who have a lot of money involved in fixing the scores. I sometimes always feel strange when I watch a top club lose against a club. bottom of the board, usually I always think negatively and think that behind the defeat there is a game behind it such as match fixing, even though it's not entirely like that, but it's true that it's more comfortable to gamble in the big leagues, for the small leagues it's best to avoid it
Match fixing regularly happens around many countries, even in Europe. Recently one of our (Turkish) lower league team's president was caught placing bets (not about his team but still looks very strange). There was also cases of some Italian football players actually placing bets (different teams again), they were not found guilty - but one very important question comes to mind: Isn't it so common?
I also feel like, not always, but sometimes, big team "intentionally" plays very bad football and result is draw or loss. But I must say, I feel safe to place bets within champions league or europa league because those are too big to run such schemes.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: stadus on December 18, 2023, 10:24:53 AM
There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Rufsilf on December 18, 2023, 10:35:43 AM
It can be concerning if there is a match-fixing that occurs in a particular game, especially in small league sports games, where there is manipulation happen. I've seen scenarios on YouTube specifically in football games where other coaches or players got paid by the other team or those who manage the other team just so they can win.

As a person who is watching the game you can really sense that there is something fishy in that game, and you basically know that the team you bet on play well but later on lose against their opponent that is not too skilled.
But there's nothing you can do but just accept everything, cause if is there no evidence then people might think that the game was well played. And you know too well that it was being cheated.

But if it is proven that there is match-fixing going on then everyone who is involved will receive disciplinary action like you can get a penalty, being banned, and might rot in jail.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Quidat on December 18, 2023, 10:40:11 AM
There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.
Not really that much or rampant comparing on smaller leagues. We've seen for example on those controversial referee calls and other decisions on which it would really be the main talk in town.
They might really be able to apply those fixing or whatsoever but we cant really be able to conclude until its proven or checked. Usually match fixing will really be on smaller leagues.
Match fixing does exist, it is really just that it isnt really that often since majority of us sports bettors or fans would really be going or seeing into those bigger ones or most popular
ones on which we know that we cant really be able to see with those odd actions because it could be easily be spot out.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 18, 2023, 11:31:03 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Before the start of every league match, whether big or small, there's no way an ordinary bettor could tell you that a particular match is fixed, unless the match is over, that's when you will be hearing such rumors that a match is fixed, and nobody knows about it until the end of the match.

I think match-fixing is highly confidential to those who set it, and any of them who link it to the general public will be penalized with files. I remember the case of the newly signed Newcastle player who was filed, not to play for Newcastle for 2 years all because he bet on his team to lose against their opponent.

Most of the time fixed matches are really confidential. People who are involved in this kind of activity usually hide the fact that they have the game fixed because in most games, it's really prohibited to have a fixed matches because they say that it disrupts the ecosystem of the game. Additionally, it's a form of cheating. People who do fix games often talk beforehand who will be declared the winner and loser, then from there, they will just split the winning prize so that both of them will benefit. It's not really a new thing in the gambling industry, but it doesn't mean that it should be promoted either.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Kakmakr on December 18, 2023, 11:44:41 AM
I think it happens more often than most people seem to think.

" Those figures reveal Sportradar detected over 1,200 suspicious matches in 12 sports in 2022 – the highest to date and a 34 per cent increase on 2021. By April this year – when it found 150 suspicious matches, the highest ever in a calendar month – 2023 was on course to exceed last year. " - Source : https://www.scmp.com/sport/football/article/3221054/match-fixing-spiralling-and-sports-must-spend-halt-it-expert-says-naming-football-basketball-no-1

" Overall, across all sports, the suspected manipulation rate stood at one in every 476 matches " Source : https://sportradar.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Betting-Corruption-And-Match-Fixing-In-2022-2.pdf


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: topbitcoin on December 18, 2023, 11:45:30 AM
Actually in this case I am not too worried because in the end the concern occurs because we are in it to bet but indeed for small matches or in local competitions I have never done any gambling so that things like game setting and even score setting can be minimized.
But indeed in this problem I think for some of the bigger competitions it will not happen even if there is definitely it will be a big scandal that is definitely smeared so no one will want that.

I've seen some videos on social media, especially for small leagues in some parts of Africa where score-fixing like this is often seen, there are even some players who seem deliberate and don't want to cover it up, but indeed in this case they also have their own authorities, sometimes even for domestic competitions in small league even mafia like that is a much bigger network than the league security authorities. 


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Beparanf on December 18, 2023, 11:58:06 AM
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I’m curious what’s their basis on categorizing match fixing because it’s very hard to prove it unless they have recording about the negotiation before the match begin. I think most of this suspicious match are those upset matches with high odds.

There’s no way to verify all these numbers or else the league needs to be investigate due to the number of suspected match fixing.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: swogerino on December 18, 2023, 12:30:49 PM
I wanted to open a topic with the name "have you noticed this" during the weekend games.In there I wanted to point out how come consistent sport bettors still continue to bet on weekends when it is exactly this time that most upset results happen.I am not pointing the finger to a specific team or a specific league but what is sure is that a lot of big teams usually have upset results.

This last weekend Manchester City,Ajax,Paris,Roma,Dortmund and a lot od other teams did not won their games.Of course we must say something that the adversaries were strong but why consistently every weekend we see surprise results?


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Wexnident on December 18, 2023, 12:55:17 PM
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Not really no. The number of times the tournaments/leagues I've watched are rare (mostly eSports tourneys), with most of them being only during the early days. I guess it also helps how most tournaments are rather big in itself and they number pretty small afaik, at least compared to other sports?

As for it being unhealthy, then yea definitely. I mean, what are the chances of you getting a bet on one anyway? Pretty low imo. And managing your bets due to a possible match-fixing seems like too much of a stress really. In a sense, picking teams to bet on is already stressful enough, adding the mindset of thinking if a match was matchfixed just seems too much.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: stadus on December 18, 2023, 01:03:28 PM
There have been rumored that sports fixing are happenning in major sports like NBA, NFL, and MLB. As a gambler, you have to be aware of this so you'll be able to choose the right side. You know, where's a line that is too good to be true, you better be careful with that as that could be a trap and it's design to attract public bettors to put their money on the obvious line, but in reality, it's the other line will win.

On major sports, it's not proven yet but there's this ref in the NBA before that was jailed for game fixing, so just think this way, if you have a wild imagination, you could think that he was just a fall guy and it's really the organization that are making orders in all of this to happen.
Not really that much or rampant comparing on smaller leagues.

You can say that if your basis are those that are caught which usually from small leagues only. Major league games have a bigger stake on them, so they wouldn't allow to publish that their games are fix as that would ruin their reputation, we are talking of a billion industry here, so that big amount of money are at risk.

On major leagues, all we can do is just to speculate as nothing has been proven yet, or if there is, it's just an isolated case, not really the league itself are involve.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: alani123 on December 18, 2023, 01:11:25 PM
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Not really no. The number of times the tournaments/leagues I've watched are rare (mostly eSports tourneys), with most of them being only during the early days. I guess it also helps how most tournaments are rather big in itself and they number pretty small afaik, at least compared to other sports?
eSports are a whole other league of their own.
Sometimes the teams playing are so obscure and the tournaments so small that you wonder how come the players are so motivated given the earnings they get are low.
In such occasions players might be incentivized to rig their games on creative ways just to earn something extra so they can have a more sustainable income.

It had happened sometimes and I think on eSports especially it would be hard to notice if it's been agreed upon well.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 18, 2023, 01:27:04 PM
How you can know if the match you bet is a match fixing? as long as there's no official announcement if it was a match fixing, it just a speculation.

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Gozie51 on December 18, 2023, 01:44:09 PM

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

I have heard speculations of match fixing though but how true it is still left to be proven. This is why it is good to bet with big leagues and serious ones where such occurrence to happen will be limited. However, for local leagues or community cups, such is possible to happen because the officiating is not standard and therefore there could be some sort of corruption and fixing that will go on for the highest bidder, such could be the case for smaller leagues that is not under the watch of global media.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Hispo on December 18, 2023, 01:51:20 PM
How you can know if the match you bet is a match fixing? as long as there's no official announcement if it was a match fixing, it just a speculation.

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

The speculation and what one could feel or think about an specific league is more than enough for one to stay away from participating or bet on those leagues. It is not secret a regular bettor would not like to get involved in a match which had been previously fixed by some underground organization or the league itself, for the sole purpose of getting money our of people, and because the regular public does not have access to information on what matches have been meds up with, all we have is speculation... However, there have been some precedents in which pretty competitive teams face each other and one of them start to blatantly under perform, I am talking about match fixing which does not even care if people realize in the middle of the match about it. That is one of the few clues we have about the existence of this evil within the world of sports and also e-sports and what have made so many people to feel skeptical of small leagues.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Rabata on December 18, 2023, 01:52:09 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Today, those of us who are sports bettors consider match fixing to be a common phenomenon. We sometimes bet on the assumption that there will be a fix during the team selection. Because it is very common in this stage. Earlier if a game was suspected there would be an investigation but now the board or big bosses are involved in fixing some feel that such events are conducted for fixing. Although there is no actual proof of this, everyone can feel it but no one can say anything.
With the passage of time, the amount of such match fixing has increased which has alienated the common people from the humanity of watching the game. A fixed match really has no appeal. But I think it is no longer possible to get out of such a situation rather it will increase in scope in future. Those who are gamblers place bets depending on fixed match.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: YOSHIE on December 18, 2023, 02:05:52 PM
Does match fixing concern you often?
Of course there is concern, especially in leagues, except for the World Cup, as far as I know, the league that gambles the most and most mafia places bets, They often place bets in large amounts, it is not likely to be a worrying action for small-prone gamblers.

For this reason, overcoming worry, of course you have to think about it, if I want to place a bet, especially on football in the league, I rarely place a 1x2 bet; I was happy and I managed to do a lot by placing a bet. Both teams scored; I'm very worried about putting the Correct Score, because it often misses, but for both teams I have good results I do, that's what I do gambling to overcome worry in gambling.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Taskford on December 18, 2023, 02:25:47 PM

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

I have heard speculations of match fixing though but how true it is still left to be proven. This is why it is good to bet with big leagues and serious ones where such occurrence to happen will be limited. However, for local leagues or community cups, such is possible to happen because the officiating is not standard and therefore there could be some sort of corruption and fixing that will go on for the highest bidder, such could be the case for smaller leagues that is not under the watch of global media.

There's a proven cases regarding on this match fixing and there's some people behind on this crazy activities got penalized on the league where they belong. And for sure this is not only happening on current era but rather there's more cases like this happening before since there's less technology that can detect it and people can't report easily to authorities handling the league if they suspected such thing to happen.

Maybe at current digital era where camera is everywhere this activity is not  or less to happen on bigger leagues since they can easily get busted by doing such illegal actions. But on minor leagues for sure we can still see this to happen since those leagues didn't get to much attention coming from media or large number of fans around the country.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: bittraffic on December 18, 2023, 02:58:48 PM

Regardless what the result is, I won't say it's a match fixing since I believe something bad could happen and there's always a possibility luck not always on favorite team/player.

I have heard speculations of match fixing though but how true it is still left to be proven. This is why it is good to bet with big leagues and serious ones where such occurrence to happen will be limited. However, for local leagues or community cups, such is possible to happen because the officiating is not standard and therefore there could be some sort of corruption and fixing that will go on for the highest bidder, such could be the case for smaller leagues that is not under the watch of global media.

There's a proven cases regarding on this match fixing and there's some people behind on this crazy activities got penalized on the league where they belong. And for sure this is not only happening on current era but rather there's more cases like this happening before since there's less technology that can detect it and people can't report easily to authorities handling the league if they suspected such thing to happen.

Maybe at current digital era where camera is everywhere this activity is not  or less to happen on bigger leagues since they can easily get busted by doing such illegal actions. But on minor leagues for sure we can still see this to happen since those leagues didn't get to much attention coming from media or large number of fans around the country.

I'm sure there is. Those big guys in the sports want to secure a win and they will do it blatantly if they have to but most of the stuff done is behind close doors and only the referee and the fighters are going to be participating.

If they make it obvious, there will be a lot of complain in the sports industry and there will be a lot of media coverage of such match and credibility off the athletes will be questioned.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Blitzboy on December 18, 2023, 03:44:58 PM
Match fixing is disturbing, but its incidence varies. I've found that sport governing organizations' integrity matters more than country size. Due to fewer earnings and less oversight, smaller leagues are vulnerable, but so are larger ones. The bigger stakes in big leagues can attract more sophisticated match-fixing.

I've learnt to focus on controllables as a bettor. Dont fight match fixing alone, but be aware and gamble properly. Observing unusually changing odds or last-minute team roster changes can indicate fixing. This is a complicated subject. Match fixing ruins the skill-luck balance of betting. I dont let match fixing worry me when betting, but I support tighter sports regulations.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: moneystery on December 18, 2023, 03:46:26 PM
because of this match fixing, i rarely bet on my city team because they play in a small league where match fixing like this often happens. i'm not saying that all the results of matches in the that small leagues are manipulated, but i don't want to risk myself betting on a league that is not transparent and prone to manipulation. as long as they don't fix this and can't convince the fans that they are a clean and honest tournament, i'm reluctant to bet on it.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 18, 2023, 04:03:45 PM
I am not sure if I understand this correctly but what I have observe if I am not wrong about this one is that this is very common with boxing matches. Promotions wants more audience and money so they fix matches to further raise some profits and if you are placing bets on a specific team or league this means a 50/50 win or loss but most of the time the winning team or the defending champion will suffer a controversial loss just to have a stupid rematch.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: darkangel11 on December 18, 2023, 04:15:03 PM
Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

Happens smaller countries and in larger ones it's an issue in lower leagues. I know a couple stories because my friend used to play pro in third league and he personally knew guys that were involved in that and got caught. He also knew guys that were stealing, and taking drugs. When you do it once you want to do it again and eventually you're going to get caught and face the consequences. The players that were caught and kicked out of the team would get more money for playing if they were not sacked than they did by fixing matches.
It's really only worth it in higher leagues because it pays so much that even if you get caught you'll have enough money for lawyers, but at that level you're making so much without fixing that you don't need to cheat. You're set for life anyway.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: adultcrypto on December 18, 2023, 04:28:21 PM
On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
I have tried not to believe that match fixing actually exist but the more I try the more it becomes impossible to just ignore all the numerous evidence that abound in respect to this. There have been reports of people being banned or punish for their involvement in match fixing and the list is long. This statement of your is also showing that you believe match fixing actually exist. Have you actually had any form of information as to who fixes these matches and how they are able to achieve that and make it appear natural?


What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I don't know what my experience is and how to know a match that have been fixed. I don't think I have been born when some of the match fixing allegations that are in public domain happened. If match fixing actually do happen now, getting such classified information will not be easy to come by considering the damage it will do to the bookies and the reputation of the governing bodies.




Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: uneng on December 18, 2023, 04:35:25 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Unfortunatelly, match fixing is a risk you have to take, despite the league or championship you are betting on. There isn't any way to know with 100% certain if a match is not going to be fixed, because there are many interests involved on the process, especially right now with so many sports betting houses operating in every corners of the world and even sponsoring many clubs and championships.

Sometimes match fixings are really obvious, what I believe to be the case of the minor leagues, but the schemes can also be extremely discreet and imperceptible among professional soccer leagues, although in most situations all we have are speculations which don't go ahead or are immediately covered up. After all, the more money the sports betting industry moves, more likely it's to be that we see the occurrence of match fixings increasing, or the increasement on the occurrence of unbelievable matches' results.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on December 18, 2023, 04:43:55 PM
When a match is fixed, it kills the fun and make gambling look as if it is a scam and this is why I wouldn't use my money to bet on match fixing. In small countries, it might not be an offense to them over thre but in big countries, you can get banned for such actions.

This is why you should stay away from such leagues and only game on big leagues as mentioned by @Oshosondy, to avoid match fixing. Fairness in the game brings out the best in the players and this will make gamblers be able to predict the match based on their own understanding and skills.

What you should understand is that match fixing if it really exists is done by gamblers too, they want to win very huge sums from the bookies and they go extra-mile to ensure they get what they want. you talk about fairness, have you not seen where a referee robbed a team of their supposed victory?, If not, I will refer you back to Chelsea vs Barcelona champions league finals 2011 or so. when a referee defied many football rules and ensured that Chelsea didn't get past that stage. There's a lot of unfairness in the leagues both small and big leagues, but I think there's more corruption in smaller leagues, especially those with limited coverage.
So my point is that Gamblers are everywhere. The guy that fixes the match is a top-level gamblers who steers the game to his favour, and you just staking on those games is a low-level gambler who waits on the outcomes of the games to make your money.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 18, 2023, 04:46:58 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I do not think this is regular in football anymore, but if it is, it is not obvious as it would be politically played nicely. It is an ugly event that was popular before, but it can't for any reason be a means for fair play. This is not legal and prosecutors do frown bitterly at it if caught. Let me say that there could be a lot of reasons for such to happen but those reasons can only be for rivalry and some other unfair games as good games should be allowed to pass though, especially if the teams involved are so deserving of it. Everything is not about gambling benefits and the money peculiarity. I love it mostly when it's even the underdog-related games, which could also encourage people to even watch it more and not otherwise which suggests that better clubs playing the final, for example, will amount to making more money.

Well, in this dispensation, it can't be plainly happening in the professional leagues in developed countries, those leagues are too exposed for such. Or should I say that are too big for such to tarnish their images. But for the poor countries' leagues, it is so possible since they are still very greedy for the money and are desperate to make it shamelessly as well. Am concerned about this? Not at all, and the reason is that I don't watch the matches of the poor countries, and even if the top-world countries' leagues are doing it, I can still be so concerned because it would be so little. Inasmuch as I go for the quality matches and bet accordingly, I am good to go.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on December 18, 2023, 06:04:50 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
From my many years of experience in sport betting, I have got to know that "Fixed matches" do not exist, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong and we have anyone here on this forum who may have got one-in-one contract with such game. here is anyone here who have got in contact with getting such games. Because Telegram is one social media which I have known to been the host home for people claiming to offer fixed matches, which are always 100% scam, as games offers never do they play as predicted. Hence, you go about losing both the money used in buying the "Fixed Matched" and the money used in staking the game. So on that note, I rather advise people to go about staking their normal prediction, than hoping for fixed matches.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: electronicash on December 18, 2023, 06:16:29 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
From my many years of experience in sport betting, I have got to know that "Fixed matches" do not exist, but I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong and we have anyone here on this forum who may have got one-in-one contract with such game. here is anyone here who have got in contact with getting such games. Because Telegram is one social media which I have known to been the host home for people claiming to offer fixed matches, which are always 100% scam, as games offers never do they play as predicted. Hence, you go about losing both the money used in buying the "Fixed Matched" and the money used in staking the game. So on that note, I rather advise people to go about staking their normal prediction, than hoping for fixed matches.

there used to be users who claimed they knew some matches that were fixed. Some of those matches seem to have been predicted correctly but i think this is because the user can analyze the matches. it's very common for sports fans to learn ahead of the outcome of the match since they know very well the teams who are playing. if you are a bettor you can also speculate winners and some of these sports fan thinks some matches are set up to win.

let's say Inoue vs Tapales, we know very well Tapales is no match to Inoue but they are still going to fight this month. some fans will think this is a fixed match and the only prediction to bet on is which round will Tapales drop.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: AprilioMP on December 18, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

I have no experience regarding match fixing on any bets I place.
Maybe because I only bet on big matches and bet on well-known football leagues which I believe are far from fixing match results which might still happen in small football leagues.

I've heard that there are countries where the outcome of a match can be controlled by certain parties.
Therefore, I don't worry about problems like this when I bet on well-known football leagues.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: dimonstration on December 18, 2023, 06:43:39 PM
Does match fixing concerns me? Not in a slightest chance because I’m not a bookie. Regardless of fixed match or not I will still bet for unknown result in the end so a predetermined result won’t change that I’m still betting for a “chance” to win.

Bookies are the one paying for this since they are using their own pocket money to pay for all the huge bets placed on this specific match since Sportsbook nowadays doesn’t use odds in proportion to the bet amount place on it.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Doan9269 on December 18, 2023, 06:50:38 PM
I am not sure if I understand this correctly but what I have observe if I am not wrong about this one is that this is very common with boxing matches. Promotions wants more audience and money so they fix matches to further raise some profits and if you are placing bets on a specific team or league this means a 50/50 win or loss but most of the time the winning team or the defending champion will suffer a controversial loss just to have a stupid rematch.

Do you actually think that they made the decision on fix matches for boxing, i think this is only common with sports like wrestling and not boxing, while game like soccer doesn't work by this strategy, they can choose to make their promotional efforts through other means but when the spectators knows that they fixes matches base on that purpose, they may not get their target crowd as expected eince they had already known their plight towards fix matches, so all these features aren't applicable on many games than we thought.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: goinmerry on December 18, 2023, 07:02:41 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Since you have mentioned, a league that we place our bets, do you mean a league that was listed in most bookies?

I'm pretty sure all of my followed leagues that was covered by most bookies are fair and square. Maybe there might be some concerned calls and issues on some particular games or match but not to the point it will be considered as game fixing in general.

By the way, if that thing was in your mind, do you mind sharing your followed leagues that you think always have a controversy?


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Sunderland on December 18, 2023, 07:32:34 PM
This is the reason why I dont bet on a minor league anymore, there is a risk that I may place a bet on a fixed match when betting on the minor leagues.
And when that happen, the bet will be void and the account might be marked by the system then trigger a KYC and casino blocked the account.
btw here is the example of match fixing from some sports, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: danadc on December 18, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
I am not one to make many online bets or bets on sites unless it is on authorized platforms but with fiat money, because I don't know much about sports, in football I only bet when it is the World Cup or the Champions League, but that is because I really like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Chelsea, because they are European teams that I see play very well and have a lot of fame, but I don't know much about the local leagues, but this makes me remember that I can do anything if I know It is important to study how to do it to understand what the bases are for betting, the knowledge that must be acquired, I have many friends who talk about the players and their ways of playing, perhaps that's where they figure out how to bet.

When you bet just because I like a team, it is not the right thing to do, because you have to go further, perhaps technical aspects, fans know a lot about the technical, but when they are not with cheats or fixes it is easy to realize, and that's a shame, everything is lost.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Ruttoshi on December 18, 2023, 09:18:35 PM
Match fixing is a very big offense and I believe that those people fixing matches does this secretly because if they are caught, they will get sanctioned from football. It is against any sport and I believe that it doesn't only apply to football.

This is the reason why I can't bet on those small leagues that is not popular because, they use their matches to make money by fixing the match and I see this as greed and lack of love for football because match fixing will kill the passion that they players have to win games for their clubs, since they don't have any option than to play according to what they are instructed to do. What of a player or some players disagree to dance to the tune of the game and they played to win the game instead of losing, will these set of players be kicked out of the club, or is it that platers are also paid when a match is fixed ?


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Heartilly on December 18, 2023, 11:31:33 PM
On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

If you have that kind of mindset better stay away from betting on those you think are fixed or rigged matches. As a sports bettor for a long and if you are a regular bettor of that match, I think you should somehow know or have an idea how to play well in that match regardless if there's a suspected fixed match or not. You can also take that as an advantage instead of a disadvantage.

In my own personal experience as a sports bettor, I only bet on popular league as even there's a chance of game fixing here, the organizers won't ruined their reputation for that as it's hard to earned people's trust and they are considered these leagues as business and they will protect it from any form of negative impression.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Latviand on December 18, 2023, 11:50:30 PM
This is the reason why I dont bet on a minor league anymore, there is a risk that I may place a bet on a fixed match when betting on the minor leagues.
And when that happen, the bet will be void and the account might be marked by the system then trigger a KYC and casino blocked the account.
btw here is the example of match fixing from some sports, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents
It's weird that they're doing a scorced earth approach to this kind of problem, the real problem is the leagues that do this but the innocent players get the boot too. I guess they really don't want any person that's involved in match fixing to reap the benefits, I'm sure that it's not just the minor leagues that have this kind of problem, big leagues probably is just more sneakier and the people that they let in on the knowledge of a fix are much fewer. To answer the question, I'm really not concerned because I'm not in it and the people that get caught in match fixing are always going to get busted so whatever they do to catch these incidents, just keep on doing it because it works.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: TimeTeller on December 18, 2023, 11:55:55 PM
On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

If you have that kind of mindset better stay away from betting on those you think are fixed or rigged matches. As a sports bettor for a long and if you are a regular bettor of that match, I think you should somehow know or have an idea how to play well in that match regardless if there's a suspected fixed match or not. You can also take that as an advantage instead of a disadvantage.

In my own personal experience as a sports bettor, I only bet on popular league as even there's a chance of game fixing here, the organizers won't ruined their reputation for that as it's hard to earned people's trust and they are considered these leagues as business and they will protect it from any form of negative impression.

That is true, if you have been a sportsbettor of a specific sports, you will have an idea what's really going on with the game.
Better not to place your bet if your instincts is telling you something is off with the game.
You can spot some unusual stuffs if you are an avid follower of such sports. Such match fixing always happens under our noses.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Iroh on December 18, 2023, 11:58:46 PM
I think it’s a thing to be concerned about as match fixing is just not okay. After doing some vigorous work doing some research, it would end up being a fixed match making people losing out on their legit bets. Obviously, there are going to be winners as well in a fixed game. Winners who had no idea the game was fixed but still won.

But it’s never a good thing to try and manipulate the outcome of a sporting event. It takes away the fun out of it and if repeatedly done, the event becomes uninteresting and would gradually lose viewers.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: dothebeats on December 18, 2023, 11:59:53 PM
When I was still actively betting in Dota 2, match fixing always occurred in Division 2 and lower tiered games. As time went on, these match fixing issues were resolved and was completely gone, or so I thought. I started betting on a lot of Chinese matches during qualifiers as the teams involved are only one of these two: very good or very bad. Most of the time, the odds speak for themselves, and it's a no-brainer to not gain 20 or 30% profit just by placing something on these games. Unfortunately though, near the end of these qualifiers occur some of the match fixes. Imagine a team who barely struggled to get to the semis managed to win against a team that won all of their games with no defeat? Totally insane. It's not really a convincing game either, as the elite team can clearly be seen throwing the game for something.

Since then, I just avoided Chinese dota scene, and moved forward with my sports betting adventures. Once you know which leagues or games often have these problems, you'll just avoid them and look for a more honest league elsewhere.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: youdacapt on December 19, 2023, 12:02:59 AM


 Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Yes, match fixing bothers me alot. Gambling is a game of luck because there are too many variables to be fulfilled and so many uncertainties too. If match fixing then takes place in football gambling; then that means the bookmakers are cheating an already unfair system balance towards gamblers.

Match fixing is wrong and should be abolished; while defaulters deserves more punishment than just fines and ban from football haha


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: tech30338 on December 19, 2023, 12:34:45 AM
why would you not? the only reason a person will be not concerned is if he/she knows that it is fixed and profited from that kind of scheme, if I'm the person who bets on the other side, and found out later it is fixed I will be mad, since it should not be, because there are lot of people who is expecting that its all good, that there are no cheating, but sadly like other said, they are doing this because of money.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: mamesso on December 19, 2023, 04:49:52 AM
Everything that seems impossible can happen in a sports match, a strong team can lose to a small team, a goal in the last minute can ruin a big team's victory. We all agree that the ball is round, but at certain times a round ball can also belong to the dealer due to the severity of score fixing by the mafia in sporting matches. Match fixing is not only synonymous with the small leagues, this can also be the case in the big leagues.

Juventus once left a black mark on Italian football, the Calciopoli scandal that ensnared Juventus has become a disgrace in modern football and will always be remembered in Italian football. So when betting on any match, you must prioritize logic, not your desire to win big.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: mirakal on December 19, 2023, 05:10:24 AM
why would you not? the only reason a person will be not concerned is if he/she knows that it is fixed and profited from that kind of scheme, if I'm the person who bets on the other side, and found out later it is fixed I will be mad, since it should not be, because there are lot of people who is expecting that its all good, that there are no cheating, but sadly like other said, they are doing this because of money.

Even if you don't know if a certain game is fixed, you should already believe that fixed game could happen anytime, in any sports. That in mind, as a bettor you'll already consider it in analyzing your bets.

Sports betting is not easy as we think, not because we are familiar with sports and we are good in math, that doesn't guarantee a win since there are factors like sports rigging that has to be considered all the time. Though we would not know what game but at least should suspect for awhile, so we won't fall into trap lines.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: retreat on December 19, 2023, 05:43:46 AM
The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Strongkored on December 19, 2023, 09:25:18 AM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I don't know whether fix matches occur in the leagues where I usually bet, because these leagues are big leagues and if there is a practice of fix matches, of course we will know about it when it appears in the media, but so far there hasn't been, and I guess that there will be more fix matches. happens in small leagues because maybe leagues like this don't get the spotlight from officials who will of course give punishment to the club that does it if it's proven to have happened.
Bettors will not be able to know that there will be a fix match unless they get information from insiders


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: tbterryboy on December 19, 2023, 01:01:23 PM
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I’m curious what’s their basis on categorizing match fixing because it’s very hard to prove it unless they have recording about the negotiation before the match begin. I think most of this suspicious match are those upset matches with high odds.

There’s no way to verify all these numbers or else the league needs to be investigate due to the number of suspected match fixing.
There is a way to verify. In fact, you already said one of it, and that is if there is a recording about the negotiation.
Doing this must be hard because the people involved are also aware with it. If someone will get caught, they will be punished badly, or worse got killed. This is the reason why evidence like this are rare but the ones that people do to judge if there is a match-fixing that happens or not is they watch the performance of each team.

When they saw an odd movement, that is a sign already. Investigation should be done for real, so that offenders will get fear of it and the cases will be reduced. But, I doubt it will happen as corruption can also occur.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: MainIbem on December 19, 2023, 01:20:37 PM
Does match fixing really works out as we may think?
Can this manipulation really be carried out because we all know that matches are game fun and interest and when it's off from what it's then we can say is game anymore rather than self interest.
I do not believe in fixed matches because I know too well that the results are always unpredictable and for that any fixed match may not go accordingly except as few people suggested for some local leagues it could be manipulated.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Hispo on December 19, 2023, 01:36:17 PM
Does match fixing really works out as we may think?
Can this manipulation really be carried out because we all know that matches are game fun and interest and when it's off from what it's then we can say is game anymore rather than self interest.
I do not believe in fixed matches because I know too well that the results are always unpredictable and for that any fixed match may not go accordingly except as few people suggested for some local leagues it could be manipulated.

I would also like to point out Fixed matches are actually easier to pull off if we talk about sports which are an 1 versus 1, instead of teams of several people, in part because of what you say. It is easier to control de outcome of the whole match if you just need to convince a single person to underperform, instead or a whole team, it also becomes less likely for them to leak the match fixing to the news or the press, so those doing the ilegal activity can get away with it.
If small football leagues are more prone to suffer from match fixing, I would not even want to imagine how serious such problem is in sports likes boxing, tenis, darts or ping pong.
There is also much precedent of match fixing in e-sports, specially MOBAS, so I would not also get comfortabke on getting my money on it while there are new/small leagues going on. Just a personal measure I would keep in mind, so the greed of others won't end up being my ruin.  ::)


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: KTChampions on December 19, 2023, 01:37:07 PM
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On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

Firstly, I think that fixed games are almost non-existent at the top level - the business of top clubs and top players is too expensive (literally billions) to risk it. The Bayern Munich football club is worth several billion dollars and their annual budget is about a billion. How can they be involved in fixed games if in order to implement them you need to involve a lot of people (a big risk) plus for it to pay off you have to earn tens of millions - but such “earnings” will not go unnoticed either by bookmakers and by financial monitoring authorities for money laundering and other murky transactions. I believe that at the top level, fixed games do not exist simply for economic reasons, therefore, they do not concern or bother me in any way.

The entire area of fixed games is in sports (and athletes) where little money are in turnover and any outside income makes sense. In football, these are 2nd 3rd leagues where players like (on their own or by agreement with “helpers”) to bet on the fact that a yellow card will be given at a certain minute. But such options are obvious to everyone, so bookmakers monitor large bets here and if there are suspicions, they simply return the bet to the sly ones with odds of 1 (all in accordance with the rules), so the earnings here are not as great as the sly ones would like.

I heard that there is a separate sport that, on the one hand, is quite popular, but on the other, not very profitable and it is very, very affected by fixed games - this is table tennis. Firstly, there is always a high volatility of results, which allows you to “justify” unexpected turns in games when the favorite, after winning 2 sets, unexpectedly loses three sets in a row. Or, for example, when the favorite in a certain game loses all his serves. There is a very large space for fixed games (and btw when only one side is cunning and tries to make illegal profits).

Does this affect me in any way? Absolutely not. Firstly, I place bets mainly on top competitions (where, as you remember, in my opinion, there are simply no fixed games). Secondly, even if I bet on a fixed game where the result will be crooked (relative to the “fair” outcome), then at a distance it will not matter to me since in one case it will be in my favor, and in another case against me. + - everything will be balanced.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Saisher on December 19, 2023, 02:11:25 PM
On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
Every bettors are concerned when there's game fixing nobody wants to read news about game fixing even if it is a rumor, organizations are quick to address this, and they should be because sports organizations are all about trust, if there is no trust there will be fewer bettors and attendance and sponsorships will go down, its a big concern for me but its a more concern for organizations or promoters so they have to address this issue so it will not escalate further losing revenues and profits from ball clubs and teams.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Yogee on December 19, 2023, 02:27:44 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: piebeyb on December 19, 2023, 03:15:30 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
If you watch the news, maybe you have heard that there are several matches where match fixing is suspected, this also happens in several other European small leagues or even in Asia, there are several former football players in my country and he is telling the truth about match fixing and he one of the players who was bribed with money by football officials at that time to play badly and lose in a final match.

I used to think like you that it couldn't possibly happen and thought people were accusing of match fixing but after seeing statements from former football players who had been involved I thought that it seemed like not only in my country but the football mafia would always be out there playing. in minor league leagues to manipulate bets also in gambling and more.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 19, 2023, 03:31:04 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
In my experience fixing is way more common when it comes to district leagues, college leagues and small-cap games. Not the big ones that get broadcasted all over the globe to a huge audience. These small scale games are the bread and butter for many local bookies and fixers. They will make money from them and not do any other job at all - its the primary source of earning among other strongarming jobs.

Hence if you are betting on the big games, dont fuss about fixing much, keep your mind at ease there.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Gheka on December 19, 2023, 03:38:39 PM
The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.
If we are not aware of third party arrangements for matches, betting seems to be a long-term plan for players as they can at least have a sense of fairness but the game just leaks a bit of manipulation, the level of vigilance and betting restrictions also becomes low and most major tournaments will hide all these problems. Besides, players with high salaries almost have extremely high pride, they do not like a match where the opponent becomes an actor, they need a prestigious victory, instead of meaningless victory and lack of spiritual respect


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: freedomgo on December 19, 2023, 03:39:14 PM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
In my experience fixing is way more common when it comes to district leagues, college leagues and small-cap games. Not the big ones that get broadcasted all over the globe to a huge audience. These small scale games are the bread and butter for many local bookies and fixers. They will make money from them and not do any other job at all - its the primary source of earning among other strongarming jobs.

Hence if you are betting on the big games, dont fuss about fixing much, keep your mind at ease there.

That's the reason why small leagues has a very small limit because of this possible fixed games. For major leagues, you can bet as much as you want because bookies are willing to accept bets since they know it will attract actions on both sides. The thing is, if in a small league, you know what team will win because you have an inside information about the fix game, bookies are gonna lose a lot of money, so limiting it is just their way to preven that from happening.

It makes sense, right? Because if they don't believe that fixed game is happening, the limitation should be remove since what they want in the first place is to gain more bettors so they could increase the wagers they'll be receiving.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Hirose UK on December 19, 2023, 03:54:21 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
If you watch the news, maybe you have heard that there are several matches where match fixing is suspected, this also happens in several other European small leagues or even in Asia, there are several former football players in my country and he is telling the truth about match fixing and he one of the players who was bribed with money by football officials at that time to play badly and lose in a final match.

I used to think like you that it couldn't possibly happen and thought people were accusing of match fixing but after seeing statements from former football players who had been involved I thought that it seemed like not only in my country but the football mafia would always be out there playing. in minor league leagues to manipulate bets also in gambling and more.
I know and of course I believe in things like this because in some countries with not too much competition there can be cases of bribery or match fixing that are motivated by officials or certain people with the sole aim of gaining personal gain.
Usually it is betting, many unexpected things happen because of the actions of people who have enormous wealth who bet and they are willing to spend certain amount of money to make bribes and be able to win their bets.
In Asian football, there have been many similar cases, but what always happens more often is referees who are unfair because they side with one team.
A football match that experiences something like this will be very disadvantaged and of course it will give rise to bad thoughts or conversations among football fans, they will say that football has become place of capitalism and is really unclean.

I said something similar to several football fans in the past but they didn't believe it because they thought every team wanted to win and every team wanted to win the title.
But I think otherwise because money is very valuable and money can change everything from manipulation to bribes that are carried out to favor one party.
And we will find similar cases more often in small leagues or competitions in each country.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: temple on December 19, 2023, 06:21:08 PM
I recently had this thiught, that in many places the stakes for betting can be so high, that in many occasions it might be worth money wise for team bosses to fix a match result and still have enough to pay everyone involved instead of just playing fairly for a good clean win.

Some might think that this issue could be especially prevalent in smaller countries where streaming rights and add may not pay teams that much... But I guess match fixing could also be a big issue in big countries with popular leagues because there the stakes for betting are even higher.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.

What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?

It is an interesting question and I think the real answer can only be given by someone who has been involved with that shit. But from what I have read in the past about this, I think bookmakers are quite well on top of things and it isn't easy to place a bet for someone to make millions (and perhaps even share it with other people as you said). You have all these camera angles, you have scripted referee talk in some leagues I believe. You have all the rules, like how much scope is there left for a referee or a player to fix a match with an action that the whole world can watch on repeat from 10 angles? I still don't want to come across as naive and there is probably a lot of stuff going on, but with technology becoming so much better, I think it's tough to fix a match without anyone noticing. And I think that bookmakers are quite careful when they notice someone trying to bet a million on the next throw in. I wouldn't say it is not a thing anymore, but I believe it is quite hard to pull off.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 19, 2023, 06:39:43 PM
It really doesn't , because it's so few and far between that we actually ever hear of matches being fixed.  Now don't get me wrong, I damn well know that they do..but they don't as often as I think people think they do. 

Has anyone seen all the parody commercial the NFL (US football) has been putting out, mainly before the season, where they are all mocking the fact that so many say the league is "scripted".  It's pretty funny, pointing out the absurdity.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 19, 2023, 08:12:50 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.

You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: klidex on December 20, 2023, 02:06:52 AM
The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.
Yes, most gamblers who bet on sports games definitely prefer to bet on big leagues because there is less to manipulation, apart from that, big league leagues maintain their reputation. I myself also prefer to bet on big leagues such as the European League, Champions League, La Liga, League 1 , Italian League, Bundesliga and Premier League it is very unlikely that they will do this for personal gain because the income from these leagues is of course bigger and the points for each club are very important.

This is different from local leagues which can be manipulated and the risk of losing is greater, so for those of us who prioritize profit and don't want to experience the risk of match fixing, it is better to bet on big league leagues, but you also have to be able to use high skills to analyze big league predictions. It's not easy, but it's more difficult than predicting local leagues which have been arranged in such a way by the bookies.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: temple on December 21, 2023, 09:09:23 PM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.

You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.

It is not about the reputation of a specific sport. I think most sports really have a good reputation in general, but when you have got some people who want to take advantage of an offer from the mafia or something, it can be bad for the sport of course.

I remember that Djokovic said he was approached a couple of times with high offers to fix some tennis matches. That is actually one reason why I think players or sports professionals should earn enough to get well along because that makes them less prone to saying yes to illegal stuff like that.

But there is also force from these organizations that try to bribe referees or players. Imagine players or referees get threatened by some dangerous people. There isn't much they can do against it.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Iroh on December 21, 2023, 09:20:28 PM
The issue of match fixing is a bit of a concern for me because it is related to the manipulation of match results which is clearly detrimental to gamblers. However, because I bet on a big league which clearly maintains its credibility, transparency and honesty, I'm not too worried that the league will be related to this match fixing. Even though the risk is still there, I think it is very small and it is not something to worry about.

I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans. They know they can’t risk their reputation they’ve got over things like this. I don’t see the fixed games going on in the premier league or in the champions league. They’ve got everything to lose if they manipulate the outcomes of matches.

Perhaps in little leagues that isn’t popular or known, things like this could very well be going on unknown to people. Fixed games should be of a concern to every sport enthusiast and not just people who gamble. It literally takes away the competitive spirit.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on December 21, 2023, 09:24:11 PM


You're right, any reputable gambling sport should not engage on match fixing in other for them to gain their spectators trust, those that do this at the local level may not be that observant about it to that extent by knowing if the people really want that or not, but i see no gain in fixing a match than where manipulations is an order of the day, people may not want to for such sports to gamble because they know that it's been fixed by the organizers.

Let me correct you, match fixing had nothing to do with the spectators, its all about making more money at a little space of time, the bigger boys meets with the clubs leaders of little clubs and offers them good money that they only dream of making, being poor, they oblige and fix the matches to their sponsors advantage, the match plays and these big gamblers smash the bookies and make huge compensation for themselves, the club owners and  those involved also makes it big too from the bookies and they're satisfied. The spectators of such teams aren't that much influential people that can raise dust, that's why they don't bother about them while fixing matches. Their key aim is to  make a lot of money.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Unbunplease on December 21, 2023, 09:32:48 PM

Let me correct you, match fixing had nothing to do with the spectators, its all about making more money at a little space of time, the bigger boys meets with the clubs leaders of little clubs and offers them good money that they only dream of making, being poor, they oblige and fix the matches to their sponsors advantage, the match plays and these big gamblers smash the bookies and make huge compensation for themselves, the club owners and  those involved also makes it big too from the bookies and they're satisfied. The spectators of such teams aren't that much influential people that can raise dust, that's why they don't bother about them while fixing matches. Their key aim is to  make a lot of money.

It is practically difficult to prove whether a particular match is fixing or not. Yes, you can see individual signs, but the overall picture is often blurred. And if you bought the result of a match, it does not mean that someone has made a deal with someone. It is often a fraud


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Casdinyard on December 21, 2023, 09:57:57 PM
It does but at the same time I think for different reasons from other gamblers. Other people see match fixing as a negative thing since it makes them lose bets that they otherwise would've won but personally, I'm just more concerned about the integrity of the game. When you deliberately tip the scales in your favor, especially in sports like football or basketball, you're literally tarnishing the main purpose as to why these games are played—to show prowess and to find out who's the greatest athlete for that particular sport.

It ruins the vibe and takes the fun out of playing and watching games like these. Can you imagine how boring it would be if everything you've been watching on the TV, especially reality shows and game shows for that matter, are nothing but staged and scripted? It makes you lose interest in that game, and eventually not only you would feel that way but everyone else who's a fan of that particular show, which leads to massive decline and eventually, the death of the franchise.

I've seen leagues fail because of corruption within their respective systems, so it's no surprise that people will be so concerned about match fixing.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: Stable090 on December 22, 2023, 08:11:55 AM
I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.

If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 22, 2023, 11:10:45 AM
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What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
No experience so far or at least not to my knowledge. I also prefer betting on top leagues like most members. I have heard of match fixing accusations from local sport leagues but it's usually the accuser's words against the accused. No real evidence to support it so I cannot really call the game as rigged. There are bettors that are just sore losers so can't take them seriously.
Is this happening in this current dispensation? If it is, then it can't be in the top leagues, or better still, they must be very secretive in doing it. As we all know, what we actually see might not be what actually happened, but this is not fair if it truly happens, and it is a serious offence if caught at the same time. Mind you, allegations or accusations are still not facts, I heard of such too, but these days, you can't because of an allegation or accusation sanction teams anyhow, there must be proof, a valid one for that matter, which is what I believe is always difficult to puzzle out. As it is now, I would like to take my mind off this kind of allegations, whether it happens or not, as long as they do not deprive me of the entire tourney, there is nothing concerning me.

It will be left to how the involved teams could play and display their talent to know whether they are worth the trophy or not. There are many benefits of match-fixing though which might attract some parties to get involved in it. But this can't be in major matches where every team is getting ready for the celebration and the glory of lifting the cup, for real. And if they would ever comprise for other teams, there must be a very huge sum of money that must be paid for that purpose by the parties involved.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 22, 2023, 11:11:42 AM
I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.
If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.
But we will also never know whether fixed matches exist or are just based on the stories people tell about them. But what you said about it happening in small local leagues could be happening because of a lack of supervision from the center, so people who influence some areas can use their power to pressure the people behind the game.

Anything is possible, especially in sports, because various interests want their favorite team to win. We as spectators also don't feel it directly. But we can be suspicious about the existence of fixed matches in several leagues, especially if there is something clearly visible from several matches that a particular team is trying to win. That will not escape the observation of the commentators and people who watch the match, but we cannot do anything because the influence of people who do illegal things is very strong.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: TopTort777 on December 22, 2023, 11:18:24 AM
Often, when I lose, I think about in-house games being fixed. It might sound funny, because those who lose always find excuses and blame others, but sometimes it is hard to believe in getting 1.00 three times in a row in limbo or crash. I mean the game can throw something between 1.00 to 9999, but the variability that 1.00 comes three times in a row is so low, it is even lower than getting 9999, yet still I have never seen 9999, but got 1.00 1.00 1.00 or 1.00 1.00 several times in one week already.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: wxa7115 on December 23, 2023, 03:38:13 AM
I too don’t think popular big leagues would want to dip their hands into such shenanigans.

If big leagues try to fix matches, then they are trying to cause problems for themselves. I have been hearing about match fixing for a long time, but I haven’t experienced any match fixing before, or maybe it has been done before and I didn’t notice it. But I think it’s done in small local leagues that don’t get much attention, it won’t even be noticed because people are not following the league. Even if it’s done in some small leagues, they are supposed to be punished when caught because it doesn’t make any sense to me, they are doing it for their own selfish interests, which is not supposed to be like that, that’s purely cheating.
The issue is that match fixing is very difficult to prove, as no one that is part of it wants to get the secret out as they will incriminate themselves and get in trouble.

And even the sport federations want to know nothing about it, because if a scandal like that was revealed then the fans will lose confidence on the sport and they may decide to not watch it anymore, so even those that have nothing to do with it but that benefit from the league in question do not want to even investigate, as they could shoot themselves on their foot if they do so.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 07, 2024, 08:05:37 AM
Often, when I lose, I think about in-house games being fixed. It might sound funny, because those who lose always find excuses and blame others, but sometimes it is hard to believe in getting 1.00 three times in a row in limbo or crash. I mean the game can throw something between 1.00 to 9999, but the variability that 1.00 comes three times in a row is so low, it is even lower than getting 9999, yet still I have never seen 9999, but got 1.00 1.00 1.00 or 1.00 1.00 several times in one week already.
If the game is a provably fair one, which this one is in all probability, there is nothing fixed about it. Just verify yourself and you can be assured that the casino is not cheating you. If you still feel that the game is fixed, dont play on the site because even if you are wrong, you will never be able to convince yourself because the average losses will be more than the wins in the long run due to the house edge.

Most of the match fixing occurs in sports that too small sized games like ones in local clubs, colleges and communities. The ones rumored off in big leagues are mostly from people making them up rather than anything in reality.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: ralle14 on January 08, 2024, 12:40:03 AM
What have your experiences about this been? Is match fixing considered a common occurrence in leagues you place bets at?
I've seen match-fixing cases being revealed in esports once in a while, and even then, it's the least of my worries when I can avoid these occurrences by limiting myself to the most competitive leagues.

On the other hand, it's probably not so healthy to think about match fixing as a gambler that much because there's very little you can do to actually have recourse against it as a mere player, as match fixing is organized at a very high level.
I agree. It's best to get those kinds of thoughts out while betting because assuming a player or team is into match-fixing would only hinder your decision-making skills.


Title: Re: Does match fixing concern you often?
Post by: EluguHcman on February 06, 2024, 01:19:30 PM
Matching fixing does exists and I am of the utmost believe that they programs the matches specifically at the targets to make money from stakers. Sometimes, expertised gamblers could analysis an over 95% background on how the game could go due to the capacities of the both teams that are easy to be studied. It is likely an assured prediction and the gamblers could stake a huge some of money but at the end of the game, the game would be reprogrammed Contrarily to the initial system it was ought to play because the gambling owners and the sports teams chambers are working earnestly to make income by collaborating to frustrate the gamblers whereas, the game is suddenly reprogrammed from its initial system just to jeopardize the gamblers ought to be on the highily winning levels.
Continually if these fixed games persists, gamblers losses their interests in dealing with such games anymore longer.