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Title: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Hewlet on December 20, 2023, 06:30:23 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Zaguru12 on December 20, 2023, 07:01:45 PM
I would agree with some of your points about financial stability being one of the bedrocks of a successful marriage. But one key factor I will want to point out is no amount of financial stability can be used to run a home in which both parties aren’t satisfied with each others class. You don’t need to be excessively rich to get married but both of you need to understand each others status and try to bring up children in that class, not spoiling children at early ages and then try to limit them after, they have already open up and as such will start looking for other means to get what they were denied.

There is no second option about being financially stable before getting into marriage but you can’t gather all the money before marriage, you just need to get a well structured source of income first. Financial independence doesn’t guarantee a better upbringing of children


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Winterfrost on December 20, 2023, 07:39:09 PM
I would agree with some of your points about financial stability being one of the bedrocks of a successful marriage. But one key factor I will want to point out is no amount of financial stability can be used to run a home in which both parties aren’t satisfied with each others class. You don’t need to be excessively rich to get married but both of you need to understand each others status and try to bring up children in that class, not spoiling children at early ages and then try to limit them after, they have already open up and as such will start looking for other means to get what they were denied.

There is no second option about being financially stable before getting into marriage but you can’t gather all the money before marriage, you just need to get a well structured source of income first. Financial independence doesn’t guarantee a better upbringing of children
You have pointed out a good thing. However, there is no place i see were the OP made mentioned of being excessively rich before going into marriage. In my understanding there is no specific age, level of finances before a person can go into marriage. All is needed is to be financial stable, in such a way that the main responsibilities are being responded to. Such things include shelter, food, electricity, water supply and other essential life needs. Once all of these are settled without stress then starting up a family will not be an issue as the basic things of life are available.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AprilioMP on December 20, 2023, 08:09:32 PM
I know that household affairs are very difficult and not easy to manage because there are many challenges and obstacles that a husband and wife will face.
I don't have a family yet and I still don't think about when it will be time for me to get married. Currently I am preparing a good plan in the midst of the studies I am undertaking and my focus is still there while planning the future with the thoughts I have.

A relationship will be harmonious if it is built with love. Understand each other and respect each other's shortcomings. This glimpse can be felt by young people like me in a dating relationship with a partner.
I think the success of a household is not far from attitudes like that. Being open in all areas will strengthen the survival of a household and will far from fail unless fate requires separation or divorce.

Apart from financial factors which often make marriages fail, in my opinion sex is also the most influential factor in the integrity of a marriage.
It's as if I really understand about a household even though I'm still in college. But what I am saying is the result of what I thought and observed from several real examples that happened.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: darkangel11 on December 20, 2023, 08:19:50 PM
Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Or she'll suck you dry of every penny you have.
The best woman you can get is the one that chooses you when you have nothing. If she loves you for who you are and you both can have fun without a lot of money, respect her, because she's a rare case.
Also, beware of very ambitious women. The ones that will demand you get a better job, that will push you to your limits. Some say it's a quality, but try being in that relationship for 20 years.

My advice is, don't show your wealth to girls you meet. Don't try to show off. If you have an expensive car, get a rental, or borrow a cheaper one from a friend. If you live in a big house, don't take her home at first, try to go to her place. Watch her, how she reacts to other people, how she talks to her friends and parents. Literally one of the biggest mistakes you can do in life is to start a family with a gold digger.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: TimeTeller on December 20, 2023, 08:26:43 PM
Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Or she'll suck you dry of every penny you have.
The best woman you can get is the one that chooses you when you have nothing. If she loves you for who you are and you both can have fun without a lot of money, respect her, because she's a rare case.
Also, beware of very ambitious women. The ones that will demand you get a better job, that will push you to your limits. Some say it's a quality, but try being in that relationship for 20 years.

My advice is, don't show your wealth to girls you meet. Don't try to show off. If you have an expensive car, get a rental, or borrow a cheaper one from a friend. If you live in a big house, don't take her home at first, try to go to her place. Watch her, how she reacts to other people, how she talks to her friends and parents. Literally one of the biggest mistakes you can do in life is to start a family with a gold digger.

What more can I say, I think that's fair and square. Better not disclose your financial situation at the early stage of courtship.
In that manner, you will know what her true intentions to you. Not because of the money or anything, but supposedly real love.
Because if that's the case, you can work on things later on. And she won't bother you about not having money at some point in your lives.
If unfortunately, you got a gold digger. Your marriage won't last long because she will show her true colors when your family starts having financial issues.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Mahanton on December 20, 2023, 08:30:36 PM

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
I do agree with this one basing up on my own life experience when it comes to marriage. I'd admit that i have entered marriage life on very young age or simply just that reached out that 20 years old
and i'd admit that i have struggled out when it comes to income making since i didnt finished college on which you would really be coming into a point into your marriage life on having that separated due to
that financial aspect. Yes, true love isnt really something that can be bought by money but the needs that you would really be needing to provide to your wife and to your soon to be children then this is something that would really be that crucial on which means that if you wont really be that putting up some focus or wont really be able to provide things such as this then expect that things would really be that messy along the way.

Good thing that i had able to land a good job on trying out my best on applying and now i had met up cryptoworld on which it  did really expand out that
opportunity to earn more. Invest and make out some business out of those profits and trying to cope up somehow. Good thing that my
wife didnt leave me in the end but it was a close call.  :'(


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Davidvictorson on December 20, 2023, 08:31:53 PM
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Well written. This advice goes both ways. It is for genders. I have seen men who are after a woman's wealth and riches. The woman does everything- goes to work, fends for family, pays the rent, and others. Wokeness is causing and exposing these things. There's more men who don't want to work, they way to be stay -at home whatever. Avoid these people from both genders.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: kentrolla on December 20, 2023, 08:40:37 PM
Yes from my experience I would say if you financially strong and have already set up different stream of income then you are safe as most of the problem arises due to financial difficulties but it may look like misunderstanding or due to lack of mutual respect but if one start doing root cause analysis then they would find money to be the reason for the issue. We have made everything so difficult now and we need more money to show off and impress others as we have set expectation bar so high that we ended up compromising on our basic necessities and unfortunately I am going through that. 


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Fortify on December 20, 2023, 08:49:17 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

Many people don't become financially literate until their mid twenties or even mid thirties, if they wise up to it at all. Sometimes financial freedom only comes when they stumble into a reasonable paying job, especially with all the minimum wage type work out there which can barely cover bills. It is definitely wise to become financially independent and educated, before seeking out a partner, but often these things just spring out of the blue and love hits early in life. The important thing to understand is there is always something new to learn and improve on, never get comfortable. However by the time you are deep into a relationship, even thinking about things like marriage, your finances may already be super intertwined and hard to back out.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on December 20, 2023, 09:08:59 PM
Yeah, I agree with most of the things you have said. Some people face challenges in marriage because they failed to make a proper plan before actually getting married.

Although life happens and things might not actually go as planned all the time, the truth is that one actually needs to make some future plans and prepare themselves for any challenges that may arise. It's not possible to predict the future, but it's possible to prepare your mind and learn how to tackle challenges when they come up.

I know the situation of a man in my place; he had about eight kids but didn't have the financial stability to take care of them all, and in order to balance the equation, he had to go into different jobs just to make sure that he put food on the table and manage the affairs of the family. His wife also engages in more than one job. They both had to keep working off their asses just to be able to fend for their kids.

I believe if the couples I am talking about only had 3 or 4 kids, maybe things would have been easier for them, but they actually made the mistake of giving birth to a lot more children than they could take care of.

If you look at some countries today with overpopulation and a lot of poor people in their society, some people are also in the street doing some illegal activities. This may be as a result of some children whose parents could not actually take good care of them, so they strived on their own to survive, and because of how they suffered, they decided to become bad and do illegal things just to survive.

I am not saying that all the bad people in the street or society today became bad because of their parental upbringing. But some people actually became bad because of their parental upbringing.

There are some characteristics that should be considered before a man or woman can be seen as mature for marriage. One of them is emotional maturity, financial maturity, the attitude of the man and the woman, and other things to be considered.

If, for example, a man has only the amount of finance that is able to take care of two kids and he goes ahead to give birth to four kids, that means he will need double income in order to be able to take care of the four kids. Sometimes, people have a great problem for themselves, after which they begin to seek solutions, whereas they should have prevented it from happening in the first place.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Finestream on December 20, 2023, 09:39:28 PM
Sometimes, having a stable financial set up will tend to make a married couple bond firm and stronger. They will never see problems as burdens because they are willing enough to help each other most especially when it comes to their financial concerns. And even if they have quite number of children, raising them and giving all their basic needs will never be too hard to provide because their finances are not struggling since they make sure to build a stable financial structure before settling down.

Those are the advantages of having a good financial management. They won't face money issues most especially if both the couple have their own stable source of income that tightens more their bond together.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: dunfida on December 20, 2023, 09:47:27 PM
Sometimes, having a stable financial set up will tend to make a married couple bond firm and stronger. They will never see problems as burdens because they are willing enough to help each other most especially when it comes to their financial concerns. And even if they have quite number of children, raising them and giving all their basic needs will never be too hard to provide because their finances are not struggling since they make sure to build a stable financial structure before settling down.

Those are the advantages of having a good financial management. They won't face money issues most especially if both the couple have their own stable source of income that tightens more their bond together.
If a girl would be able to see that you are a man who dont have that financial capability then for sure they would be mostly be rejecting you if ever you are really that trying out to propose or marrying her.
It does depend though since there are women who dont care about financial status but its true that having that capacity or capability would really be giving out somewhat having that assurance that he could be able to raise up his own family and could be able to give and provide on the things that they are really that assurance that they wont really be suffering in terms of living. This is why it would be always best that before you do engage to marriage then make yourself that financial prepared and stable so that it wont really be that ending up for your family to struggle.

Well, not all would really be lucky in terms of those achieving their goals or their dream job or whatsoever.This is why we cant blame out to those people who had been experiencing hardship
just because they are really that things which arent meant for us no matter how we do work hard but doesnt mean that you would just simply quit up.
For the sake of love then it would be always best that you should really be that having those plans.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: oktana on December 20, 2023, 09:57:34 PM
I beg to differ. You mustn’t have huge money or a big stream of income to get married. It is mostly now that the world is changing that we center it around wealth. Didn’t people who did not have cars marry back in the days? I’m going too far, people who do small jobs, do they not get married and even have a happier home than most rich people? Anyways, I’ll leave that. My point is that what you need is a source of income that is able to feed and cloth you and your wife. Your wife is not going to be a dummy; she will have normal human abilities and this includes the ability to get a job or even own a business. Marriage is not something you have to do when you’ve made it. It’s supposed to be a stepping stone because you want to build a life with your partner. So, you get married, you have food to feed yourselves, you find other job opportunities or business ideas and explore it together. You must have it all figured out, you can figure it out with your wife.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 20, 2023, 10:00:59 PM
Sometimes, having a stable financial set up will tend to make a married couple bond firm and stronger. They will never see problems as burdens because they are willing enough to help each other most especially when it comes to their financial concerns. And even if they have quite number of children, raising them and giving all their basic needs will never be too hard to provide because their finances are not struggling since they make sure to build a stable financial structure before settling down.

Those are the advantages of having a good financial management. They won't face money issues most especially if both the couple have their own stable source of income that tightens more their bond together.

Sometimes many couples say that true love will always be able to survive in any situation, they say that when they have not entered into marriage or have not become a legal husband and wife, because maybe their mindset is still not open to something broader, they have not felt that weak financial strength when married is one of the factors that is big enough for separation, I think it is not uncommon for some marital relationships to end tragically with separation just because of unstable financial factors or even far from enough.

Not only having a good relationship with each other but I think in a marriage it is a fact that money has a very important role because after all that is what keeps us alive or what can fulfill our daily needs to stay alive. Basically, in any case, management is one of the most important factors in people's lives, especially in terms of finances, if they absolutely cannot change their excessive behavior towards money allocation then obviously some undesirable possibilities will always be possible. Having a good enough income that is also driven by proper management is clear as you say that it is able to further strengthen the bond between husband and wife.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: mirakal on December 20, 2023, 10:21:39 PM
Love can wait, but living together without stable money, having nothing to spend for your wants and needs, and having nothing to pay for your bills really suck. That is why never get married when you think your finances is not ready yet, your finances is not enough, and you have no stable source of income that will consistently provide your family needs and wants. You will only build an unhealthy family.

Settling down is not a do or die, that if you won't get married early, you will never find a perfect match for you anymore. That's not the concept in marriage. Marriage is only for those who are both capable to raise a good family, by providing all the basic needs a family wants so that the kids as well will grow believing the right concept in marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Agbe on December 20, 2023, 10:34:27 PM
Yes I will agree with you but even the financial structure is bad and if the couples characters are all in good terms then the financial structure should not be a problem to them. They can sort it out and live happily. In the real Africa way of marriage is not depending on financial structure but strength. African men married base on the capability of the woman to work either in the farm or the river to catch fish. And those men who married many wives were not for pleasure but for work. Because in those days the more wives you marry the more strength you have the in the family.

So children we born base the working strength of the family. And those who had many wives were the wealthy men in the society.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Captain Corporate on December 20, 2023, 10:34:59 PM
There are two possibilities, either you need to make sure that your life partner is fine with building a life together, or you need to build a good base yourself and then end up building base yourself and then it will work great for you. In OPs case, what he suggests is the second way amd if you want to do that then its great, but make sure you do build a good life and not just have fun, it is harder to get richer when you have no responsibility at all. I hot married at 23, and it has given me a purpose in life and I can vouch that if you want to give your partner a great life then you can do that easily, all you need to do is hard work and dedication. Some thrive under this pressure, and some just crumble and fail.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: dothebeats on December 20, 2023, 10:45:46 PM
I won't blame the current generation if they don't want to bother themselves  in things such as marriage, having kids, and things that forces them to spend too much continuously. It's one of the things I also try to avoid since I know that while I'm already financially stable, I still don't have enough money to raise kids or even spend on a marriage. Truth is, no one will ever be financially ready for such big things if they never inherited generational wealth. You'll have to grind your way to the top and that takes a lot of time, and maybe by then you're already in your 40s before you will want to settle down and build a family.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: komisariatku on December 20, 2023, 10:52:20 PM
~snip~

Of course, when we get married, money becomes an important factor in the household. We know that money can't buy everything but if we have enough money then our life will be better. When we are married, love alone is not enough, money is usually one of the factors that makes our household harmonious or not. I admit that many couples can be harmonious even though their economic conditions are bad, but in general no one likes conditions like that and it is the man/husband who has the biggest responsibility in economic conditions.

However, we don't need to wait to become rich before finally deciding to get married. When we have a job that produces a stable monthly income then that is enough for us to get married. I believe that a wife or child brings her own wealth and often we find our way to that wealth when we are married


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Queentoshi on December 20, 2023, 10:52:45 PM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
We women love money and will never be happy and okay in a relationship or union where there is no money, and no hope to get money because our partner is looking relaxed and not want to push themselves to get more. Just as we fall in love, we can also fall out of love quickly. Every young man should make sure that they have a source of income and are sure of the source of income being able to manage them first before bringing in another person as a partner. The people who will pressure you into marriage will not be there to support you always when things financially rough for you, you have to plan well.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Churchillvv on December 20, 2023, 10:59:38 PM
Well you have made a very good point and zaguru12 also has pointed out some important areas that need attention too. This conversation seems to be more matured for those that are almost ready for marriage or those married already, it sounds quit weird to kids like us because we are not matured for marriage.

Afaik, love is not enough for marriage, before you get married discuss bills, parenting styles, credit, debt, how to deal with family, what believe will be installed in your children, childhood traumas, sexual expectations, partner expectations, financial expectations, family health history, bucket list, dream home, career and education, political view etc. because love is not enough.

If you can discuss the above points no matter the financial stability or situation marriage can be fixed properly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Renampun on December 20, 2023, 11:11:10 PM
I have experienced firsthand the obstacles encountered when starting to get married and money is always something that I often debate with my partner, so for people who are not married, you have to prepare yourself for all of this, if you are not yet financially established, then talk about it again with your partner, don't get divorced or separated just because of money problems.

in my opinion, things that must be discussed before getting married are: issues of income, residence and distribution of responsibilities. It's impossible for you to stay at your in-laws' house for a long time, you definitely won't feel at home and there will definitely be lots of conflict between you and your partner's family or even your own family. getting married is not an easy matter, your foundation must be strong, don't just get married for reasons of love and other silly things, you both must have the same vision and also respect each other so that you don't have the potential to divorce at the end of time.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Maslate on December 20, 2023, 11:44:08 PM
I would agree with some of your points about financial stability being one of the bedrocks of a successful marriage. But one key factor I will want to point out is no amount of financial stability can be used to run a home in which both parties aren’t satisfied with each others class. You don’t need to be excessively rich to get married but both of you need to understand each others status and try to bring up children in that class, not spoiling children at early ages and then try to limit them after, they have already open up and as such will start looking for other means to get what they were denied.

There is no second option about being financially stable before getting into marriage but you can’t gather all the money before marriage, you just need to get a well structured source of income first. Financial independence doesn’t guarantee a better upbringing of children
Financial independence may not also the key for a happy and successful marriage as well as well raised children. It's not on the money but on how the parents develop effective parenting to their children that will help them grow and live life like everything gets valued. However, having money and we'll structured source of income is a great advantage when entering a married life. Thus, you will not worry anymore if both of you have something to eat today and in the following days, because you have consistent flow of income that you can rely on.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: hatshepsut93 on December 20, 2023, 11:56:51 PM
Your advice is detached from local economic context, and that varies heavily between different countries. In some it's possible for one person to sustain their whole family if they have a decent job, in other countries both parents must work hard to make their ends meet. But one thing is sure - having a family is always an expense, so you'd better be financially ready to make it all work, otherwise you might all be miserable.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Darker45 on December 21, 2023, 12:38:32 AM
Of course, it is best that you are financially capable of supporting a family before you enter into marriage. But don't give too much value to your financial well-being just so that you can marry the girl that you love. I'm afraid that's missing life. I guess it's primarily about values and character. You can marry the love of your life even if both of you are poor. And then you confront life's challenges together, hand in hand. Many rich families here accumulated vast wealth, but it all started with their parents sticking to each other through thick and thin, helping each other.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: btc78 on December 21, 2023, 01:35:34 AM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
We women love money and will never be happy and okay in a relationship or union where there is no money, and no hope to get money because our partner is looking relaxed and not want to push themselves to get more. Just as we fall in love, we can also fall out of love quickly. Every young man should make sure that they have a source of income and are sure of the source of income being able to manage them first before bringing in another person as a partner. The people who will pressure you into marriage will not be there to support you always when things financially rough for you, you have to plan well.

money is important of course especially if you want to start a family a lot of the replies in here still believe that it’s always the man who is responsible with the couple’s finances but these days a lot of women are now working and I personally know married couples wherein the woman is the only one working out of the two

being married means that you guys should stick to each other even at your lowest however one can only take so much while money is a crucial part here i think it’s more about the mindset and lifestyle your partner wants it’s not women love money it’s women love goal-oriented, determined and hardworking men it’s just a bonus that comes with it is money


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: franky1 on December 21, 2023, 02:17:44 AM
most people getting married for first time are 18-25
they have not even had the chance to build up financial security


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 21, 2023, 02:43:11 AM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
You mean if you are financially prosperous in marriage it will help your partner to love you better because women love those who have money more and more.

In any case, getting money before marriage is a very important factor in achieving stability and success in marriage because money is very necessary to build a successful marriage. Problems often arise between spouses due to lack of money, and when money is available, these problems are greatly reduced.

It is also important to get this money before marriage and not after it because obtaining money after marriage is relatively difficult due to the large demands of the family that prevent you from working freely.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Zlantann on December 21, 2023, 04:52:54 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

I beg to disagree that the root cause of divorce in our society is a lack of financial resources. What happens to the marriages of rich celebrities that have the highest rate of divorce? In my country, I can assume that 85% of the marriages of the rich end in divorce and the problem is not money. You don't need money to teach a child how to behave well in society. All you need is to spend quality time with such a child and always guide him to develop good character.

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Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

Providing all the basic needs of the family is very important. Children need to eat a balanced diet, access good education, enjoy quality health care, live a a comfortable house and wear appropriate clothing. This is why it is important to plan before marriage to avoid emergencies. But there are times when these plans don't work as arranged because nobody can predict the economic conditions of the world. People lose their jobs, sickness might come, there might be conflict or natural disasters, and at this point, you need something more than money to sustain your family. The bottom line is that we should always do our best to provide for our home but it takes more than money to keep a good home.

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It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

I will give my children the best education that I can afford and help them to develop good morals. I will teach them to be hardworking, prudent and compassionate. I will also encourage them to marry a person who is not money-conscious because that is what destroys marriages. I will encourage them to be financially stable before getting married but they don't necessarily need to be rich to find a wife. This is because the rich are easily deceived by women.

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Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

My wife respects me not because I provide all the needs of the family but because she knows that I am doing my best to make the family live a comfortable life. Sometimes I might not be able to provide for all their needs but my wife and children know that Dad is doing his best for the family.

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Don't be blinded by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

You should plan before and after marriage because it is important for the stability of the family. But don't be too confident that money will solve all the problems in the home. Believe it or not love has the power to sustain a home more than money.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Despairo on December 21, 2023, 05:56:58 AM
I didn't mean to disagree with your point, but there are many people who believe the phrase "sustenance has been fixed by God", so if they've find someone who they love and think their partner will able to make their futures bright, it's not a problem of them to be married even their financial aren't settled yet.

most people getting married for first time are 18-25
Looks odd to me, it's like expecting or planning there's will be second marriage, third marriage etc.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: angrybirdy on December 21, 2023, 11:34:27 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

I agree with some part of your opinion, but sometimes the root cause of divorce and failed marriage is not totally about money, because once you are married, whatever problems you may have with the family you started, you should solve and support them together. One thing that I consider before getting married is about financial resources and knowing that both of us are physically, mentally and financially stable. In my own perspective
I don't want big savings or big property before marriage, I prefer if my partner is responsible, resourceful and has a stable job and lastly, one of the most important is the one who appreciates me, respects and supports my decisions.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 21, 2023, 11:49:06 AM
You can't go on like you did before marriage after marriage but even if you wanted to. You may not need much money before marriage but you will definitely need money after marriage. If you think that because you don't wear good quality clothes and you don't like anything else, it will continue like this even after marriage, then you are completely wrong. You can never keep your wife the way you are before marriage. Getting married means taking on the responsibility of supporting someone else. A married man is happy when he has a good job and can earn income before marriage. If you don't have a good job, you can't get married, I'm not saying that, basically, if there is a source of income, then that person can live a good life after marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: kryptqnick on December 21, 2023, 11:52:43 AM
You're saying that marriages break up because of poor financial structure and planning, but is there actual data to back this up? I decided to find out more, and it seems that the top cause is irreconcilable differences, which means that people simple realize they aren't right for each other. Then there's infidelity, which is also cited very often as a cause of divorce.  Financial issues are mentioned within "other causes" in this article (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/divorce/common-causes-divorce/).
Then there's this article  (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/)based on interviews with divorced individuals, with the main causes being the lack of commitment to marriage, infidelity, arguing too much, then getting married too young, and only then financial problems.
So it seems quite a stretch to say that the root cause of divorces is poor financial planning.
In my opinion, people actually often don't get married because they focus a lot of their finances and careers, and gradually lose their relationships over that. Moreover, getting married and building up financial resources together can actually be a good bonding experience for a couple. It's also very traditionalist to focus on men as providers for the family, when there are tons of countries where both men and women usually work and provide for their families.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: slapper on December 21, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
Not only is it about producing money, but also about managing it. We know money issues can weaken even the best bonds. We and the next generation must learn about money. Saving, spending, and budgeting will help you stay married. The Bible emphasizes family care and financial wisdom.

A financially responsible partner makes you feel safe and valued. Let's not just consider this a business agreement. Love is complicated, and financial stability is only half of it. Emotional and financial understanding must be balanced. Both are non-negotiable. And to the young folks out there, hear this loud and clear: love is beautiful, but when the bills come knocking, love won't answer the door - your financial planning will. Yes, use your mind, but don't forget to use your heart too.



Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AirtelBuzz on December 21, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
Getting married means joining a family bond.And to be bound by this family bond, you must have merit, that is, you must do some small job or business so that you can take responsibility for the maintenance of your married wife. First you should establish yourself and then you should get married.Otherwise it will appear that you have failed to meet your wife's needs if you are not established.

If you want to live a good life after marriage then you must look after earning money.Because when a boy gets married, he can no longer be the same as he was before marriage because then his family responsibility falls on him.Earning money is the key to running a family well.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Samlucky O on December 21, 2023, 01:03:38 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.
I don't think so. There are many things that causes failed marriages.
1. Getting married with someone that don't love you or who is not yet ready for marriage.
2. Trust: when the marriage lacks trust from each of them.
3. Impotency and barrenness or if both partners are not compatible in sex drive. Example when the male sex drive is higher than the woman. Or the woman sex drive is higher than that of the man which can cause infidelity. Whereby the woman seeks for another man.sometimes week erection or the male lacking the potential to satisfy the sexual urges of the woman.
4. Unplanned marriage. Like marrying out of wedlock. By inpregnating someone you are not ready to settle down with. There by leading to unwanted marriage and summer or later it can lead to marriage failure.
5. Bad friends or evil communication. When people get married and they start receiving advice from people who are not knowledgeable in marriage. those people becomes marriage counselor where as they haven't even get married. or have marriage experience and they end up misleading the male or female with wrong advice and that can cause marriage failure. And many other factors.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.
Yes I agree with you money is one of the key important in marriage. For you to be respected in Marriage you must  be financially bounyant. When there is money the love reduces and you start loosing respect. But sometimes as a man you should try not to train your partner with always giving her money, because if she is used to it,  when you don't have she would forget that you have been giving before. Money and organizing your marriage or looking for possible things that will make the family going.

Sometimes giving your partner attention is the key factor of long lasting marriage. Women love attention. And when you are smart or sensitive to know what the problem is, you will have a broken home because you lack understanding skill.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Obim34 on December 21, 2023, 01:22:33 PM
I know one thing for sure despite being single, Marraiage is not as sweet as most people sees it to be. Because people lack the context of marriage that is why we see the high rate of divorce and broken marraiage including celebrities who both have all the money they want. Some times problems faced in marraiage do not just happen base on financial incapability of the man, there are many other factors still to consider.

Of a truth, it is a great idea for a man to be at least stable to be able to provide even if not sufficiently but his best is quite enough to sustain the family to avoid unnecessary comparison and marital issues.

My question would be, what if as a man you are not yet able to carter for the household but all ready aging out, we know "Not all fingers are equal". In this case what will be the faith of the man?


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on December 21, 2023, 01:30:49 PM
Not only is it about producing money, but also about managing it. We know money issues can weaken even the best bonds. We and the next generation must learn about money. Saving, spending, and budgeting will help you stay married. The Bible emphasizes family care and financial wisdom.

A financially responsible partner makes you feel safe and valued. Let's not just consider this a business agreement. Love is complicated, and financial stability is only half of it. Emotional and financial understanding must be balanced. Both are non-negotiable. And to the young folks out there, hear this loud and clear: love is beautiful, but when the bills come knocking, love won't answer the door - your financial planning will. Yes, use your mind, but don't forget to use your heart too.


Structures are so important because it is on them the future is built or maintained.  A family structure will need among other things, a financial system which will make the family to stay glued together. Even when no child or children are yet present, the families of both man and wife ought to be financially stable enough to support their marrying children.
Before they do get married, a wise woman or wise man should be able to have discussed the financial future they would work towards because it is during such times that kids need be expected and their future to schooling and feeding and clothing must have been arranged so that all the kid does would be how to earn for themselves and secure their own family too.

It's good to plan for a better future mostly for the kids yet unborn. This is so as not to produce liabilities that would help crumble the structure of the society.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bluebit25 on December 21, 2023, 01:52:00 PM
The way the OP said, I think it is also very true when talking about the truth that is happening in material society is seen in more than the rest. But really, that is just the beginning. There are many other problems after marriage. Material things are not the main cause, they only partly affect the harmony of the couple and then fall apart when the soul is broken. The two of them don't really understand each other. I'm not sure about everyone's perspective on love, but I believe most of us don't really understand it, so marriage breakdowns are becoming more common. Even among my own relatives, there are families that have divorced. Although the cause is not difficult life conditions, it's just that the way they treat each other is no longer the way they started. Although I do not deny the problem of building a balanced finance, I think that being able to achieve long-term harmony requires many factors, and in short, the factor is big enough to make things that affect it not work can destroy that relationship.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bounceback on December 21, 2023, 02:12:33 PM
Most important needed by every single men or women before marriage, I agree with OP opinion with setting up good financial structure before gong in to the family way or marriage. Many youth people not prepare yet with good financial structure before marriage and will difficult later when having children how to manage well between income and outcome. But don't make your motivation to build up one family losses before having good financial condition due in my religion said with marriage will open your income way.
In our live beside have good financial before marriage we need think more important in the future after marriage many unpredictable outcome exactly with our parent financial can't help well for us.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 21, 2023, 02:32:27 PM
Even if you're not married, you need to have a good financial to fulfill your needs, now if your financial isn't settle yet, how it's make sense to marry someone when you can't fulfill yourself first?

I think the government need to tighten the rules to marry someone, it's either at least 25 years old for male or he don't need to be 25 years old but he has $1 Million. :P


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: moneystery on December 21, 2023, 02:40:38 PM
i agree with your point which says that someone who wants to build a family must have good finances to be able to support their family in the future. at a minimum, he must be able to feed his children and wife and give them a decent place for them to live, then they can plan their finances for education, health and investment in the future.

if even the basic things in the household cannot be provided for, this will result in the emergence of various problems which often escalate into bigger problems such as domestic violence and even divorce. that's why it's important for people who want to get married to prepare themselves thoroughly so that in the future their family's needs can be met properly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Razmirraz on December 21, 2023, 02:51:30 PM
Money does not guarantee happiness in the household and a lasting relationship, but money can cause marital relationships to break down. In the country I live in, the husband must provide for all his wife's needs and also the monthly expenses in the household. It is important for future husbands to have some savings in preparation for emergency funds if the direction of their income sources changes after marriage.
The more technology develops, the greater the cost of living, especially for women whose needs exceed those of men. Needing to maintain financial stability by looking for a side job outside of their main job, men must be prepared to work hard to maintain the integrity of their marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: CageMabok on December 21, 2023, 03:08:26 PM
money is important of course especially if you want to start a family a lot of the replies in here still believe that it’s always the man who is responsible with the couple’s finances but these days a lot of women are now working and I personally know married couples wherein the woman is the only one working out of the two
For things like responsibilities in a family, we cannot judge each family equally, because the issue of working to earn money was born out of their own initiative after marriage. Moreover, this is of course caused by always needing money at any time when someone is building their own family so that both women and men will always be willing to work as long as their work can generate money and can be used for their own household needs. So this is clearly not only related to men, but also involves women if they both know what to do.

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being married means that you guys should stick to each other even at your lowest however one can only take so much while money is a crucial part here i think it’s more about the mindset and lifestyle your partner wants it’s not women love money it’s women love goal-oriented, determined and hardworking men it’s just a bonus that comes with it is money
When someone is married and tied into one institution, namely family, of course both of them have to work hard and be diligent with each other on everything they consider important. Because the problem of work does not only lie with men, but women also have to work if they have the ability to do it and this is for the sake of their own family. So there is no reason to blame each other if both of them really want to build a very peaceful family in their own lives because in general both of them have the same responsibility to support their family members.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: pusaka on December 21, 2023, 03:18:59 PM
Money does not guarantee happiness in the household and a lasting relationship, but money can cause marital relationships to break down. In the country I live in, the husband must provide for all his wife's needs and also the monthly expenses in the household. It is important for future husbands to have some savings in preparation for emergency funds if the direction of their income sources changes after marriage.
The more technology develops, the greater the cost of living, especially for women whose needs exceed those of men. Needing to maintain financial stability by looking for a side job outside of their main job, men must be prepared to work hard to maintain the integrity of their marriage.

While money doesn't guarantee happiness and a lasting relationship, the reality is that money is one of the things that can bring happiness and many households have been destroyed because they were economically deprived.
Husbands do have full responsibility for their wives, from basic needs to other needs. But here we cannot demand only the husband, but the wife must also understand, this is where the importance of commitment from the start and it must be prepared and discussed by two people who will build a household. Financial readiness is something that must be carefully thought out and it requires good communication between the two people.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Peanutswar on December 21, 2023, 03:54:30 PM
People must tend to learn how to save up first for their future, some of them keep doing this but in just a simple way, you don't need to spend a lot of money with your marriage like the others just having a casual is enough and of course once your wife gets pregnant this is additional cost its not free I guess having a 5k$ us a must here as your budget for initial year I don't know the accurate count but I guess its the ideal, but even though we keep saying this all the time the life always give challenges we expect the unexpected so better to save up as early as possible so you can meet your family needs and safety.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 21, 2023, 04:11:29 PM
Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Or she'll suck you dry of every penny you have.
The best woman you can get is the one that chooses you when you have nothing. If she loves you for who you are and you both can have fun without a lot of money, respect her, because she's a rare case.
Also, beware of very ambitious women. The ones that will demand you get a better job, that will push you to your limits. Some say it's a quality, but try being in that relationship for 20 years.

My advice is, don't show your wealth to girls you meet. Don't try to show off. If you have an expensive car, get a rental, or borrow a cheaper one from a friend. If you live in a big house, don't take her home at first, try to go to her place. Watch her, how she reacts to other people, how she talks to her friends and parents. Literally one of the biggest mistakes you can do in life is to start a family with a gold digger.
Yeah I totally agree. This actually happened to me once and that lesson taught me to be single for a choice. It is really important to not show your wealth because gold diggers will surely left us with nothing. I am not rich but I am not lazy as well, I just don't show off what I have. Always remember that gold diggers are liabilities and those who truly loves us are assets.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 21, 2023, 04:29:08 PM
People must tend to learn how to save up first for their future, some of them keep doing this but in just a simple way, you don't need to spend a lot of money with your marriage like the others just having a casual is enough and of course once your wife gets pregnant this is additional cost its not free I guess having a 5k$ us a must here as your budget for initial year I don't know the accurate count but I guess its the ideal, but even though we keep saying this all the time the life always give challenges we expect the unexpected so better to save up as early as possible so you can meet your family needs and safety.

True, in general that is what people usually do before entering the family period, none other than because I think everyone has realized that the responsibility of needs when married is intolerable, which means that when they need money it means that at the same time they must already have money or prepare money. Well right, that's what has been going through my mind, honestly I am one of the people who are still single and not married, I often see some of my friends who have been married, when chatting they prioritize wedding parties which of course cost a lot of money, even though the party is only temporary and just to enliven the wedding, and real life will really happen when they have entered a family relationship. Which means that I agree with you that it's better not to overdo it in marriage, don't be too pushy to spend a lot of money, it's simple because after all, real life will really happen when the marriage is over with a myriad of needs that will come your way.

As you said that they will have offspring (children) which of course requires cost allocation, so preparing funds early with an ideal amount according to the needs in your area and using it for needs when the time comes is better than you allocate all your savings only for a wedding party that is only temporary.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: letteredhub on December 21, 2023, 04:48:28 PM

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.   
Op does it mean that men without money are not eligible to marry because from what you're saying it is like being financially bouyant is the bedrock or a strict criterion for getting married as a man. If you don't have money don't marry cause you'll be making mistake doing that.

 
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
I dismiss this ideology to not be as true as many people do think. It is well known that men that has money as in rich men tend to have side chicks/concubines  as they believe they can fend for all their needs, it is rather the poor that love their wife's more better as they don't have money to massage their ego of fending for extra marital expenses so they stick all their love to their wife only.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: rat03gopoh on December 21, 2023, 04:51:35 PM
I remembered the US tradition in their love life, where a couple can live together before continuing to get married. It seems like they really live life like a family, including managing finances that meet their collective needs.
I don't know whether it is actually effective in reducing the divorce rate (if breaking up at such a time is not considered a divorce).


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Ruttoshi on December 21, 2023, 05:12:05 PM
OP, as long as both husband and wife can understand themselves, they can assit the gamily together. I am not sying that one should jump into marriage without a job, but it doesn't mean that you must be financial stable first. This is because as two people that just came together, it will be hard to be able to meet up with all the family demands because new expenses will be added. It is gradually with time that the family will begin to get balanced after understanding the most important needs for the family.

What of a situation whereby, the husband has a good job and after 5yrs, he lost his job what will happen, will the wife divorce him..NO. As long as the man is hardworking and provide the basic needs for us family, they can get married. There are some people that it is when they get married that they will be blessed with riches because marriage is a good thing.

Even if a man is wealthy and he doesn't understand his wife, the marriage might not work, money is not everything and this is where the youths of nowadays get it wrong, especially the girls. Love, commitment and understanding makes a poor family to be happy with the little that they have. Sometimes to become financial stable can take a very long time due to the economy of some countries.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Franctoshi on December 21, 2023, 06:02:36 PM
The role of the father and mother, especially the father is to provide for the family and once you missed to play your role as parents it definitely gonna backfire on children misbehaving, because they will begin to look for a way to survive themselves and that's where you as parents would lost control of your kids. Even as a single person without a sustainable source of income is a problem, let alone when you got family and children to take care of,  It a must done for me.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bocyaj on December 21, 2023, 06:31:43 PM
Most important needed by every single men or women before marriage, I agree with OP opinion with setting up good financial structure before gong in to the family way or marriage. Many youth people not prepare yet with good financial structure before marriage and will difficult later when having children how to manage well between income and outcome. But don't make your motivation to build up one family losses before having good financial condition due in my religion said with marriage will open your income way.
In our live beside have good financial before marriage we need think more important in the future after marriage many unpredictable outcome exactly with our parent financial can't help well for us.

The men or omen was independent in the financial sector before their marriage,they only need to take care of their parents.If they was in the joint family,the money dividend for him will be reduced further.But if they live alone after their marriage,they need to pay the rent fully from his salaries.It also includes the weekly outing expenses,the medical expenses should be based on their salary alone.But the bachelors expense limit with their parents,the family man expenses will include the wife and baby expenses.

The role of the father and mother, especially the father is to provide for the family and once you missed to play your role as parents it definitely gonna backfire on children misbehaving, because they will begin to look for a way to survive themselves and that's where you as parents would lost control of your kids. Even as a single person without a sustainable source of income is a problem, let alone when you got family and children to take care of,  It a must done for me.

The father role was huge in the family,if any of us get some health issue.The father alone take care of it,even if he doesn’t afford our expenses.He will get credit from their friends and help us in all the emergencies.If the mother take care alone with some income means,it will be far better one for peaceful life.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Winterfrost on December 21, 2023, 07:26:26 PM
The role of the father and mother, especially the father is to provide for the family and once you missed to play your role as parents it definitely gonna backfire on children misbehaving, because they will begin to look for a way to survive themselves and that's where you as parents would lost control of your kids. Even as a single person without a sustainable source of income is a problem, let alone when you got family and children to take care of,  It a must done for me.
I will agree on this. If the parents are unable to take full respinsibilty not partially responsibility of the needs of the children. Gradually the children will tend to loss the regards and high esteem of their parents. The parent as well will not have much say in whatever the children are doing, since they are the ones caring for themselves.

I believe this is part of the reason OP started this topic. It is very painful to see your children loss respect for you or regards because you are unable to provide for them anymore. Although some children are different but in rare cases this is how it is


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Russlenat on December 21, 2023, 07:59:35 PM
Failed marriages do not only happen because of lack of financial structures before they enter marriage. That is just one of the factors. It could be that both individuals failed to manage their differences that's why they cannot work as one, otherwise they'll only end up fighting because of their different life's concepts.

However, I have to agree that having stable financial structures before marriage is a great factor that would make marriage highly works. Let's just admit that money is almost the source of everything nowadays. I hate to say it but it's how money have become very manipulative of us. And if these married individuals have no stable source of income, that will make their marriage becomes compromised until it end ups failed and broken.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: icalical on December 21, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
From my experience talking and socializing with younger generation, like Gen-Z and Late Millennials, people who were born later than 1990's, they were more aware of financial requirements when they want to married. They tend to delay their marriage until they have enough saving to buy a small home/apartments, most of them aren't even having relationship until they got a stable job.

I not from Asia, and the previous generation were married young, but I guess that's understandable because the economic situation is less complex, and I am glad that most youth are aware of the economic uncertainty before they decide to start a family.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: coupable on December 21, 2023, 10:36:41 PM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
We women love money and will never be happy and okay in a relationship or union where there is no money, and no hope to get money because our partner is looking relaxed and not want to push themselves to get more. Just as we fall in love, we can also fall out of love quickly. Every young man should make sure that they have a source of income and are sure of the source of income being able to manage them first before bringing in another person as a partner. The people who will pressure you into marriage will not be there to support you always when things financially rough for you, you have to plan well.
This is one of the manifestations of the backwardness of traditional educational systems that teach girls that men are responsible for spending financially on them. This upbringing established a culture of dependence among women that contributed to the formation of public awareness that the man is the genie of Aladdin’s lamp who will fulfill all their financial dreams that they were unable to achieve.
It is true that the financial aspect must be worked on first to make the relationship successful, but this thinking must be shared between the man and the woman and not the responsibility of the man alone.
Marriage is like any other joint venture, requiring equality in both responsibilities and rights. Or we are talking about a relationship of exhaustion.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on December 21, 2023, 10:39:30 PM
i agree with your point which says that someone who wants to build a family must have good finances to be able to support their family in the future. at a minimum, he must be able to feed his children and wife and give them a decent place for them to live, then they can plan their finances for education, health and investment in the future.

if even the basic things in the household cannot be provided for, this will result in the emergence of various problems which often escalate into bigger problems such as domestic violence and even divorce. that's why it's important for people who want to get married to prepare themselves thoroughly so that in the future their family's needs can be met properly.

That's right, they have to be able to support their families, and especially men have an important role in the family because men are the heads of the family who have to be more responsible than others. Preparing a financial structure really has to be done, because in order to be able to support their own family, for men they must have a job that makes money every month, because men have many responsibilities in a family, to support children and wives they also have to fulfill their basic daily needs, too. they have to pay bills for water, electricity, and perhaps health insurance which must be prepared for the future as you said, they also have to be able to save for the future and prepare funds for undesirable things or things that might happen suddenly. - suddenly it will definitely cost money to deal with it. I don't think it's just men, if it's about money, it's possible that women can also do it by selling online or with their careers, it's better if they both earn a living to support their family, but don't lose time together, because they're very vulnerable. If husband and wife both have jobs that earn money, they don't have time to be together. Even though men are the ones who are most obliged to earn a living, there is nothing wrong if women also help earn a living, as long as, as I said, they don't lose time together.

Things like that must be avoided as best as possible. They have to look for work that makes money, because if household finances are unstable then there will be small problems and it is likely to become a big problem that could destroy a family relationship. So this must be prevented especially by men who are most responsible for a family. Basically, men should have a great sense of responsibility, especially for those who decide to get married, of course they have to be ready for everything that will be their own responsibility.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Gozie51 on December 21, 2023, 10:48:17 PM
Money dey good for marriage no doubt but e get the one wey still be the icing on the cake, na that one be understanding. Hmmm my brother if money plenty for marriage and the communication and understanding are not there, na just like nothing good or joyous in the marriage. In this case if the woman see say the man get money but dem no dey too get understanding and better communication, the woman go find somebody wey go dey make her happy outside while she go dey carry the man money dey take care of another man.

So money without understanding, you go still see couple wey no dey happy but make understanding dey make money still join am, that one make sense.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bayu7adi on December 21, 2023, 10:50:49 PM
Most women would probably want to make sure their family's financial future is secure by finding a guy with a better job. But in real life, marriage doesn't seem as easy as we think (I can't say for sure since I'm not married yet). To truly have a harmonious situation, at least every guy should be able to choose a wife who is obedient and capable of having one mindset in a marriage.

Money becomes super important because nobody wants to live in poverty. Some families choose a simple life with happy hearts, but in reality, it's the implementation of living standards that becomes the issue. Anyone who focuses on other people's living standards will never be satisfied and will always feel lacking compared to what others have.

Every man have to work hard... that's a given, but the income should be enough to live. It doesn't have to be super rich because a woman who loves your money... will find it hard to accept when you're at your worst.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: dothebeats on December 21, 2023, 10:52:44 PM
Even if you're not married, you need to have a good financial to fulfill your needs, now if your financial isn't settle yet, how it's make sense to marry someone when you can't fulfill yourself first?

I think the government need to tighten the rules to marry someone, it's either at least 25 years old for male or he don't need to be 25 years old but he has $1 Million. :P

That takes away a lot of freewill and emotional freedom that is written in the law. Perhaps a lot more education regarding finances and coming to age for the younger generations will work. I'm sure this will be met with a lot of resistance from people who we know complains about everything under the sun. Heck, if gender issues are prevalent and there are dedicated groups of people advocating against 'discrimination' and 'equal rights' nowadays, how much more with issues related to preventing human emotions to develop into deeper connections (marriage)?

I'd say just educate people more about it, and perhaps they'll get swayed to not marry or birth another child until they have sufficient money. If the government can do mass brainwashing before, I'm pretty sure they can do it now for a positive result.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: topbitcoin on December 21, 2023, 11:01:24 PM
Money does not guarantee happiness in the household and a lasting relationship, but money can cause marital relationships to break down. In the country I live in, the husband must provide for all his wife's needs and also the monthly expenses in the household. It is important for future husbands to have some savings in preparation for emergency funds if the direction of their income sources changes after marriage.
The more technology develops, the greater the cost of living, especially for women whose needs exceed those of men. Needing to maintain financial stability by looking for a side job outside of their main job, men must be prepared to work hard to maintain the integrity of their marriage.


I agree with your opinion, and during the recent pandemic which caused economic activity to decline, many workers were laid off and employment opportunities were difficult. This encourages more and more divorces. And it is true that most divorce cases are motivated by economic and financial problems.

And almost 70% of divorce cases that occur in my country are filed by the wife. This shows that only a few women are willing and willing when they are in a difficult situation, and only a few women are willing and willing to fight together so that the family's financial and economic conditions can return to stability.
And what you say is true, therefore, maintain relationships so that they are always harmonious, so that we as husbands are the support and backbone of the family as much as possible to keep finances and the economy stable. Although this is indeed a very difficult thing. But on the other hand, apart from externally we must be sufficient, we must also be sufficient internally. Because sometimes a relationship can break down not only because of financial problems. A husband's lack of love and attention to his wife can be one of the factors causing a rift in a relationship.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Juse14 on December 21, 2023, 11:27:26 PM
Money cannot guarantee happiness at all, but if you don't have money, let alone being happy, it's very difficult to smile. And it doesn't all have to be money, but it all requires money. So, as a man, let's make as much money as possible....

And sometimes having a relationship as husband and wife is quite difficult and complicated. Sometimes when a husband earns less than his wife, it is the husband who feels humiliated. And sometimes a wife becomes a little big-headed, which in the household should be, the husband is the head of the family and the husband is the one who manages everything. However, when the wife's income is greater, the situation is reversed, where the wife is the one who has control.
And sometimes this also triggers divorce in domestic relationships, because the wife thinks that she no longer needs a man, because she already has financial independence and is able to meet all her needs with her own income.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on December 22, 2023, 04:45:18 AM
As you described that before marriage one should made any setting of finance that will make him able to continuously earn so it means that if a person is not financially stable then he should not be involved in marriage life but I think its not a good idea. Setting before marriage is necessary but it is our believe that with marriage your fate will be changed so if financial status of any person is worse then he should be involved in marriage.

If wife wants a better environment and a person with better job then she should also be prepared for doing anything for his husband because if husband can do each each every struggles for a wife then why she cannot? Wealth does not define your marriage life but its understanding which make the relationship strong.

I am agree that a person should be financially stable and he should work hard for his family but it does not means that forever a person will remains wealthy therefore adoption is necessary according to every situation may be its a wife or husband both should understand the circumstances.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: lienfaye on December 22, 2023, 06:20:46 AM
Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.
Nowadays it's not unusual to see young couple getting married even they're not financially stable yet, having just love. But the problem starts when they had kid and unable to provide for their overall needs. Money is also one of the reason why some couple ended up dealing with separation. On the other side, it doesn't necessarily mean getting married young and not ready for responsibility (financially) can cause problem. Because it depends on how they handle their situation and solve whatever problem arise. Because if you are already married, you'll learn to strive hard to provide for your family's needs. But this is, if you are a responsible person and aware of your obligation.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Kakmakr on December 22, 2023, 06:51:48 AM
The thing is ..... most men are thinking with their little head.. when the hormones are raging. They go blindly into a marriage without any thought of the financial consequences. They even start with a family, before they are able to support it.

Those kinds of marriages are doomed to fail, because the foundation are flawed from the start. The financial aspect of the marriage are just ONE of the several challenges that new couples have to face.... so they are starting with a marriage where there are many issues from the start and that might be too much for many young people.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Alpha Marine on December 22, 2023, 07:33:43 AM
I agree that people should have a financial plan before going into a marriage but I disagree that the root cause of failed marriages is due to poor financial planning, but that's by the way.

A lot of people have the mindset of "we'll figure it out as we go". Not me. There are things you figure out as you go, but that doesn't stop you from having a plan. Couples get married without planning anything. How do you pay the rent? how do you afford the kid's education? What percentage of our salaries should be slit for savings and investments? What about the health insurance of the children? All these are questions that need to be discussed before the time comes.

I'm not saying doing all these will definitely make the marriage successful, but it would certainly make the future a lot easier. Things do not always go according to plan, but I believe you'll be able to deal with emergencies when you plan for them.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Hewlet on December 22, 2023, 10:37:59 AM
As you described that before marriage one should made any setting of finance that will make him able to continuously earn so it means that if a person is not financially stable then he should not be involved in marriage life but I think its not a good idea. Setting before marriage is necessary but it is our believe that with marriage your fate will be changed so if financial status of any person is worse then he should be incolved in marriage.
that's not what I mean, before starting any journey in life, their are fundamental things that should be on ground to aid you thrive through the journey effectively. It's just like preparing for high school, if you don't have a string sponsor, wound it be wrong to advice that one make a reasonable amount of saving before even seeking for admission? But making savings doesn't mean that people cannot star up their high school journey with no penny in their account but to be on a safer side it becomes necessary to put things in order first.

I have seen so many marriages that have broken up because of finance and their are lot of youths in my street that are currently confused and frustrating because their parent are still struggling to bring food to the home and their isn't enough money to cater for their education.

If you don't gained financial freedom before getting married and after your marriage once children start coming in you will discover that you will leave at least 20 years of your life raising funds to take care of the children if care is not taken.

Let me be very direct on this, most of the people I know of that had no financial preparation on ground before settling down are still in abject poverty till this moment, it's just a very little percentage of them that are able to go back to the drawing board and sort out for ways to fix their lived.

Wisdom is profitable to direct.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: KiaKia on December 22, 2023, 11:07:06 AM
Proper training and upbringing isn't related to poor financial conditions, lack of home training doesn't make you poor, it's different, and financial problems is the only reasons that marriage collapse, if you think I am wrong, why are rich men getting divorced? There are few rich people in my country that are now divorced.

Money isn't answer to everything, but I accept that lack of money easily breaks a home, but mind you, some people don't have it all in their lives and they still never divorce their partners, they prefer to go through hell together.

Even if you have all the money in the world, you can still fail at keeping a woman, money isn't going to solve everything for you, remember that money even attract the wrong people, especially having it all before marriage, someone can pretend to love you for your money and such people can take your life slowly to get everything you've ever worked for.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 22, 2023, 11:22:48 AM
We all live in different countries, and in many countries, there is already a long-rooted rule that there is no need to rush into marriage. All these remarks about love and passion should be very well thought out, as many will agree that it is very difficult to maintain love where financial difficulties may arise. At the time of meetings and the candy-bouquet period, everything may seem too simple, which cannot be said when young people get married. People must understand that family means procreation and, accordingly, the creation of well-being for their spouses, and even more so for their children.
Increasing the number of children without a solid financial cushion is tantamount to increasing poverty. Intelligent people need to firmly understand the responsibilities they take on when they get married.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: justdimin on December 22, 2023, 11:44:02 AM
i agree with your point which says that someone who wants to build a family must have good finances to be able to support their family in the future. at a minimum, he must be able to feed his children and wife and give them a decent place for them to live, then they can plan their finances for education, health and investment in the future.

if even the basic things in the household cannot be provided for, this will result in the emergence of various problems which often escalate into bigger problems such as domestic violence and even divorce. that's why it's important for people who want to get married to prepare themselves thoroughly so that in the future their family's needs can be met properly.
I believe that it may cause problems if you are not ready for it, if you are ready for it then it may not cause any problems at all, you should be careful and you should be ready but it could be quite well as well.

As someone who didn't have much money when I first got married, I can credit all my income to my wife because thanks to being married I got the understanding of responsibility and tried to work harder and look for more work everywhere and making more money now. When I was single, I didn't have any needs, I could make very little, work very little, barely got any money even asked for my parents to pay for some stuff, and just ended up overall not caring about anything at all and that made me feel fine about it in the end. That's why being married sort of made me richer.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on December 22, 2023, 01:43:43 PM
We women love money and will never be happy and okay in a relationship or union where there is no money, and no hope to get money because our partner is looking relaxed and not want to push themselves to get more. Just as we fall in love, we can also fall out of love quickly. Every young man should make sure that they have a source of income and are sure of the source of income being able to manage them first before bringing in another person as a partner. The people who will pressure you into marriage will not be there to support you always when things financially rough for you, you have to plan well.
   Well personally I don’t think there’s no in the world that doesn’t love money, being in a marriage makes both Partners one,  whatever decision made should be made for the common good of the family. Before getting married I believe they must have been a relationship already established and both parties must have that understanding too as well. I don’t accept the fact that you’re imposing the whole work on the man, rather it should be a two way thing, after all they say what a man can do a woman can do better. Naturally it’s a man things to provide unless the man is just born lazy and not ready to work. But then I also think that everything would have been seen during the cost of dating eachother.
  It not fair to bring in someone into this world just to starve them. In as much as having a kid is a blessing there are things we just need to use our common sense on. Unless you want to think yourself to stupor on how to feed both yourself and family. But then if you’re man and his striving to get better by the day keep on grinding, cause the sun gonna shine on everything you do.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: so98nn on December 22, 2023, 02:01:12 PM
Well, what to say about the children, they are getting very aggressive in terms of their wants and needs. I am using the word aggressive because the level with which they ask for it is always tempting. As a parent, you can not deny them and can't scold them which makes it far more difficult to manage the expenses made on them. These days every high school and school has canteens, tempting foods, educational system that has high requirements for daily activities.

Up bringing kids is costly and the way we earn is becoming irrelevant to our lifestyles too. After working for extra hours one can not get enough money to sustain. The salaries are competitive which makes it sophisticated to choose between the type of life we want. It's like more self-dependency rather than quick services that are bought outright.

With single head increasing in the house things start to escalate more and more in terms of expenses. So yep, think many times before making it work.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 22, 2023, 03:33:50 PM
The thing is ..... most men are thinking with their little head.. when the hormones are raging. They go blindly into a marriage without any thought of the financial consequences. They even start with a family, before they are able to support it.

Those kinds of marriages are doomed to fail, because the foundation are flawed from the start. The financial aspect of the marriage are just ONE of the several challenges that new couples have to face.... so they are starting with a marriage where there are many issues from the start and that might be too much for many young people.

Of course, such people do not take into consideration from various sides from the start, I think they are too focused on their lusts so desperate to carry out a marriage that is not based on careful preparation in any case, especially financially.

Honestly, I see that it is not uncommon for some young people to get married at an age that is too early and below the average in general, seeing from that alone we can actually see and judge that in terms of personal and mental readiness, it is actually still not qualified for people who are still around 20 years old because their mindset is still fairly immature, And also clearly in terms of finance if they are born from ordinary people (not one of the rich families) then I think it is unlikely for them to have enough finances to support their small family later, so it is not uncommon and even very often some couples who end up failing or divorcing at the age of marriage that is not too long due to finances that do not meet all needs. Love is important for a strong bond but money is equally important for a decent life.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dunamisx on December 22, 2023, 04:18:49 PM
Most women would probably want to make sure their family's financial future is secure by finding a guy with a better job. But in real life, marriage doesn't seem as easy as we think (I can't say for sure since I'm not married yet). To truly have a harmonious situation, at least every guy should be able to choose a wife who is obedient and capable of having one mindset in a marriage.!

The challenge is not by how it all started well, but how we were being able to maintain our standard of living and sustain the source of income as well, I've seen rich people turning poor and the poor ones becoming rich, everything have to depend on what we give in for it.

Money becomes super important because nobody wants to live in poverty. Some families choose a simple life with happy hearts, but in reality, it's the implementation of living standards that becomes the issue. Anyone who focuses on other people's living standards will never be satisfied and will always feel lacking compared to what others have.

There's no food for a lazy man, if we must choose w particular way of how we live our lives, it must be under the full consideration of what we earn and the type of class that we belong, we cannot manage to leave beyond the capacity of what we earn.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 22, 2023, 05:44:29 PM
Money changes people. Doesn't matter how you take it, in some ways it always changes people. It is the reality. You may lose your own self in order to make money. Don't push it too hard because eventually you will find success. When you are faced with responsibility, you will find a way to make money. That's how it works you need some sort of reason to make money. Maybe you are making a good amount of money for yourself but when you are required to do it for more people you tend to find more opportunities for making money. I think marriage is a good example for that.

You can make thousands of dollars in a month which is sufficient for yourself but when it comes to take someone else's responsibility you will find other options to take that responsibility. It is a good thing to make a good amount of money before getting married but it could go either way. People are still coming out on top after getting married. It's all about responsibility in the end.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: jaberwock on December 22, 2023, 06:00:03 PM
Yes from my experience I would say if you financially strong and have already set up different stream of income then you are safe as most of the problem arises due to financial difficulties but it may look like misunderstanding or due to lack of mutual respect but if one start doing root cause analysis then they would find money to be the reason for the issue. We have made everything so difficult now and we need more money to show off and impress others as we have set expectation bar so high that we ended up compromising on our basic necessities and unfortunately I am going through that. 
There are still other problems that can come to us, other than the ones that you have said there. But again if we are financially prepared, we can recover easily. The only thing is, it's not easy to have that kind of status, and up until now many people still don't have a savings with them. So, we shouldn't blame and judge them easily. There are things that are simple but it's crazy on how we complicate them.

However or fortunately, not all things are like this. To have more money is not always good but it can also change your attitude, like the ones you said there that we will end up being to showy to others. This isn't worse though as acting that if you're rich when the truth is you are only poor and you end up compromising other important things.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: taufik123 on December 22, 2023, 06:23:05 PM
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However or fortunately, not all things are like this. To have more money is not always good but it can also change your attitude, like the ones you said there that we will end up being to showy to others. This isn't worse though as acting that if you're rich when the truth is you are only poor and you end up compromising other important things.
Having a lot of money suddenly not only changes a person's attitude, but makes his true nature appear.
Even this happened in my real life, where my friend who initially had nothing, could even be said to be poor then got the jackpot from the Airdrop and he became an impromptu rich man overnight.

But what happened, of course as you said he has now become more arrogant and likes to show off about his property and forget his comrades-in-arms.

Even though he was originally a poor man and didn't have as much property as he got now.
It is enough to regret when money changes the nature of a person and even forgets his friends.
He just concealed his true status and changed to a rich man according to himself.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Wakate on December 22, 2023, 06:47:43 PM
Money changes people. Doesn't matter how you take it, in some ways it always changes people. It is the reality. You may lose your own self in order to make money. Don't push it too hard because eventually you will find success. When you are faced with responsibility, you will find a way to make money. That's how it works you need some sort of reason to make money. Maybe you are making a good amount of money for yourself but when you are required to do it for more people you tend to find more opportunities for making money. I think marriage is a good example for that.

You can make thousands of dollars in a month which is sufficient for yourself but when it comes to take someone else's responsibility you will find other options to take that responsibility. It is a good thing to make a good amount of money before getting married but it could go either way. People are still coming out on top after getting married. It's all about responsibility in the end.
Taking other people's responsibilities is never easy because as we are calculating on how to take care of our bills we shall also be looking for ways to take care of others bills too. This is of a good mindset for us to continue taking the borden of others without any string attached. Family is a big responsibility and we need to make sure that we set a financial source for ourselves that would help us to make consistent money to take care of our bills. When we start making family with children, that is when we hurt to work more so that we can pay bill and take responsibility.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on December 22, 2023, 06:50:00 PM
Money cannot guarantee happiness at all, but if you don't have money, let alone being happy, it's very difficult to smile. And it doesn't all have to be money, but it all requires money. So, as a man, let's make as much money as possible....
Not guaranteed, but you can buy happiness. Still rich people will say, 'you don't need money to be happy' that's BS, they can just say it because they have it and buy happiness.

As a man, our core is to provide, so yes, gain money as much as you can coz at the end of the day that's what we are going to do anyway.

And sometimes having a relationship as husband and wife is quite difficult and complicated.
As man in a relationship, I'd say it is true, things doesn't go as you both always wanted so there'll be misunderstandings. It is very complicated, or maybe it is an understatement.

Sometimes when a husband earns less than his wife, it is the husband who feels humiliated. And sometimes a wife becomes a little big-headed, which in the household should be, the husband is the head of the family and the husband is the one who manages everything.
Well I guess that matter should be talked in the table, coz I think it doesn't matter who earn less, otherwise, but the other should adjust. If you, as a man earn more than your wife, then obviously you are more likely to be busy with your work, then that's the time you can be more dominant in the house where you can demand your wife to do the household chores.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: lionheart78 on December 22, 2023, 07:00:08 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

This is a good suggestion in order for a created family to have a solid foundation of financial sources and not to experience famine.

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Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

Not entirely true, there are rich family where kids are rebelious and is engaged in different illegal stuff.  While there are poor family but the respect and love of children to their parents are solid.  This is because it is the time spent by parents to their kids that is essential in molding the childrens characters.


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Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Again not entirely true.  There are lots of good provider husbands that were betrayed by their wife.  There are lots of cases like this being reported in one of the programs that is aired or streamed on YT.  While there are poor husbands that have a faithful wife.  I think this kind of thing depends on the personality of a person.

In conclusion, I agree that a person should be financially capable before getting into marriage so that they won't have trouble in financing the growth of the family and the needs of their offspring.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 22, 2023, 07:53:27 PM
There are girls and women and you know what I mean.

Girls love fancy things that is why men are interested in spending their money so they can attract girls whereas women who are mature enough to know what is really needed and who can understand their partner and lot of other things so the marriage will last forever.



Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Lanatsa on December 22, 2023, 07:59:13 PM
There are girls and women and you know what I mean.

Girls love fancy things that is why men are interested in spending their money so they can attract girls whereas women who are mature enough to know what is really needed and who can understand their partner and lot of other things so the marriage will last forever.


When it comes on choosing up a girl or for someone whom you want to marry with then we do have those kind of considerations or simply those criterias but we do know that each men would really be having their
own ways and preference on choosing on who would be the one. Of course we would really be loving to see those beautiful ones but there are instances that it is really indeed present but the quality or behavior is really that opposite then if a certain man would be seeing some unpleasant things then everything would be messed up and skip for another one until he would be able to find the right girl on which he would be considering
on marrying.

Establishing up yourself first should really be your main priority on which we know that when building a family then it wont really be something that you would really be that neglecting into those responsibilities
that you would be needing to do specially if you are already that a husband and a father then it would be that just wise on having that financial planning or backups because if you dont have then building
one would really be that too challenging or might ended up on divorce because there's no women would really be long lasting if you cant really be able to provide even into their basic needs.

This is why it would be always that wise that you should really be that you should be making preparations at least before you would be hovering yourself into marriage
life. You wont really be seeing yourself to be fucked up and ends up on having nothing because you have not been prepared.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Miles2006 on December 22, 2023, 08:02:22 PM
To some extend money can't give anyone full assurance of a happy home in marriage, have seen a lot of women who got married to rich men like super rich men but still not enough and at the end of the day they end up with a divorce, with this point only money can't buy happiness in a marriage, the idea of the op is common and nice, before marriage you need to be financially stable not because your wife needs money or your children deserve a better life everyone needs to work hard because we all need money, any marriage that lacks understanding will fall even with money. Marriage needs the both to stand money and understanding cause without money couples will always argue over unnecessary issue.
Have always believe the idea of being financially stable before having kids more especially, couples can live comfortable even with little amount but with kids that's where the problem lies, most especially with school fees and children needs.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: South Park on December 22, 2023, 08:44:20 PM
We all live in different countries, and in many countries, there is already a long-rooted rule that there is no need to rush into marriage. All these remarks about love and passion should be very well thought out, as many will agree that it is very difficult to maintain love where financial difficulties may arise. At the time of meetings and the candy-bouquet period, everything may seem too simple, which cannot be said when young people get married. People must understand that family means procreation and, accordingly, the creation of well-being for their spouses, and even more so for their children.
Increasing the number of children without a solid financial cushion is tantamount to increasing poverty. Intelligent people need to firmly understand the responsibilities they take on when they get married.
Deep down most people understand this, however the economy all around the world is not doing well so people are forced in a difficult situation, do they wait until they get financially stable and risk the relationship with this person they consider the love of their life to end? Or they take the risk and tie the knot now even if they are not ready? And neither is an easy choice, and it is up to each person to decide which one of those options is the one that makes the most sense taking into account all the factors that surround them.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: tjtonmoy on December 23, 2023, 05:09:56 PM
Taking other people's responsibilities is never easy because as we are calculating on how to take care of our bills we shall also be looking for ways to take care of others bills too. This is of a good mindset for us to continue taking the borden of others without any string attached. Family is a big responsibility and we need to make sure that we set a financial source for ourselves that would help us to make consistent money to take care of our bills. When we start making family with children, that is when we hurt to work more so that we can pay bill and take responsibility.
Taking someone else's responsibility is never an easy job and that's why it is the best way to push yourself beyond your limits. If you cannot get out of your comfort zone you will never become successful. If you have the minimum requirement to provide for your family or the person you are trying to get married then you should do it immediately. As a man we like challenges and think of them as tasks. Once we've done it, it becomes an achievement. That's how our brain works.
Marrying someone and taking their responsibility becomes a new task and we do whatever we have in our power to make that happen so that we can count as an achievement.
It is necessary to have a proper amount of income to live a good and healthy life but maybe you can do it better if you are provided with responsibility.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Juse14 on December 23, 2023, 05:30:37 PM
Not guaranteed, but you can buy happiness. Still rich people will say, 'you don't need money to be happy' that's BS, they can just say it because they have it and buy happiness.

As a man, our core is to provide, so yes, gain money as much as you can coz at the end of the day that's what we are going to do anyway.
Yes, you are right, rich people have it all, so it's natural for them to say that. Meanwhile, for families who live at the poverty line, let alone buying the things they want, being able to meet their daily needs is already very difficult.

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As man in a relationship, I'd say it is true, things doesn't go as you both always wanted so there'll be misunderstandings. It is very complicated, or maybe it is an understatement.

Sometimes in maintaining a domestic relationship, when we encounter a problem that is quite difficult, what happens is that we make it even more complicated, and when we encounter a problem that is quite simple, we actually complicate it. This is the mindset we have to change, where when we encounter a difficult problem, we simplify it and when we encounter a simple problem, don't complicate it.

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Well I guess that matter should be talked in the table, coz I think it doesn't matter who earn less, otherwise, but the other should adjust. If you, as a man earn more than your wife, then obviously you are more likely to be busy with your work, then that's the time you can be more dominant in the house where you can demand your wife to do the household chores.

If a husband's income is greater than his wife's income or his wife has no income, then we should never consider her as a servant just giving orders. and when the wife's income is much greater than the husband's, the wife should never underestimate her profession and income, because after all the husband is the head of the household who must be respected.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Huppercase on December 23, 2023, 06:35:58 PM
There are girls and women and you know what I mean.

Girls love fancy things that is why men are interested in spending their money so they can attract girls whereas women who are mature enough to know what is really needed and who can understand their partner and lot of other things so the marriage will last forever.

I understand you very well but hope you know that we have women that likes materialistic and fancy items, this is to say that maturity is part of what men ought to look out got before they settle down but I think the most important of them is love. You could be married to a younger ones in between their mid 20s and early 30s be happily married without having any issues because you both love each other and understand your limit as couples and it possible to go for older for trying to avoid problems and end up in the same nemesis you are running away from.

A woman that loves her man will listen to her man physical and also financially, they don't do what's above their budget and they are very understanding but when you use money to attract and get attention, when the money finish or probably got into any problem, they will not stay around. This is why no person should ever used money to build up a relationship in th first place but on the fundamentals of love and happiness.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 23, 2023, 06:47:44 PM
There are girls and women and you know what I mean.

Girls love fancy things that is why men are interested in spending their money so they can attract girls whereas women who are mature enough to know what is really needed and who can understand their partner and lot of other things so the marriage will last forever.

I understand you very well but hope you know that we have women that likes materialistic and fancy items, this is to say that maturity is part of what men ought to look out got before they settle down but I think the most important of them is love. You could be married to a younger ones in between their mid 20s and early 30s be happily married without having any issues because you both love each other and understand your limit as couples and it possible to go for older for trying to avoid problems and end up in the same nemesis you are running away from.

A woman that loves her man will listen to her man physical and also financially, they don't do what's above their budget and they are very understanding but when you use money to attract and get attention, when the money finish or probably got into any problem, they will not stay around. This is why no person should ever used money to build up a relationship in th first place but on the fundamentals of love and happiness.

True love bs is not the reality and if someone is lucky enough to find such kind of partner but talking about the majority they won't be satisfied with what we have, they just find what we have is either good enough for them most of the time unless they are really learned their lessons from past mistakes and which one they should prioritize when it comes to choosing the partner for life.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: alastantiger on December 23, 2023, 07:28:40 PM
Yes being financially stable before marriage is very important.
I do not support those that says wife's are for enjoyment alone and do not need to work,
As a wife even if you are not 100% financially stable, you should have a little source of income where you can support in providing for your family and no man would want to lose any woman who is supportive no matter how little.
Any family that both parents are financially stable easily sort out any challenges concerning finances making it easy for the family.
The love increases when both partners are supportive to each other and to the family.
Children are happy and proud of their parents when they provide their needs, so both partners should be financially stable or have a source of income before embarking on marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Hewlet on December 23, 2023, 10:31:10 PM
There are girls and women and you know what I mean.

Girls love fancy things that is why men are interested in spending their money so they can attract girls whereas women who are mature enough to know what is really needed and who can understand their partner and lot of other things so the marriage will last forever.


even though we call them girls or woman, they both like money and it literally takes money and love to keep them. No matter how responsible a woman his, if you don't have the financial resource to take care of her, you will loose her to a stranger.

Age only goes to show that she might have had a financial  backup that will help her support her partner reasonable and that's what will fuel and enable the union to work


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: macson on December 23, 2023, 11:17:11 PM
-getting married has big expenses
-taking care of children costs money
-living everyday life is like that too

For this reason, some wise people say that if you are not financially mature then you should give up your intention to get married, marriage is not something that is easy to do, just imagine how complicated it is to unite our partner's mindset, by the way, i am lucky enough to be in a Christian family, because i only want to what separates a marriage, not money or anything else.
In Christianity, before getting married, there are many things that the prospective bride and groom must ask, this is all done to prevent divorce, nowadays it is quite easy for people to say divorce.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: NewRanger on December 24, 2023, 05:59:12 AM
even though we call them girls or woman, they both like money and it literally takes money and love to keep them. No matter how responsible a woman his, if you don't have the financial resource to take care of her, you will loose her to a stranger.

Age only goes to show that she might have had a financial  backup that will help her support her partner reasonable and that's what will fuel and enable the union to work

I also have a family. One thing that causes problems in the family is that the biggest factor is the problem of minimal finances which are seen as not being able to cover all the monthly shopping costs, especially since our children are all in school, whether at primary, secondary or college level, there are expenses that are incurred. and of course the large amount is also needed and is not owed at the end of the month.

Yes. Everyone wants to live a normal life (our wives) like other people, have a house, a car and their children are all educated, but it is not an easy matter, especially if we are not of blue blood. So, to fulfill this, it is not necessary that we have to be civil servants or private employees. If there is a skill that can bring in money and can cover it all, I think it's not an important problem that we and our partner have one heart, one goal and communicate honestly, whether in financial matters or anything honestly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on December 24, 2023, 06:40:07 AM
Having financial stability before getting married or before having your own family is important in my opinion, because if you are married, especially if you have children, which of course is said to be a family, it is our own responsibility, as men in a family of course have the role of head of the family, and As the head of the family, of course you have to be responsible for all things related to the family, including finances. In my country, there are people who are married but they don't have a job with a steady income, and when I looked closely, the man only relied on his family's inheritance, there wasn't any There's something wrong with expecting inheritance from one's parents, but I think it's better to have a job that makes one's own money, because I think a responsible man can handle his family's finances by himself without relying on his parents.

I myself have plans to get married after I have a clear job with an income, if that doesn't happen then I will hold back, because I want to have my own business to be able to make money which is the result of my own sweat and I will be proud if that happens. . As much as possible I will do it independently, because in my opinion men should be able to independently do many things related to themselves now and their future.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Nheer on December 24, 2023, 06:49:27 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.
You make a valid point, and from what I've observed, many people—of both sexes—hurry into marriage, often under the influence of peer pressure. They believe that because all of their friends are married, they must follow suit, viewing marriage as a kind of intramural competition. Some, on the other hand, are forced into early marriage by their parents, elderly relatives, etc., on the grounds that they must see their grandchildren and great grandchildren (this is especially common in the northern part of my region). In the absence of adequate financial stability and support, these individuals are pressured into premature marriages, which typically ends up failing most of the times.

However, I think that inadequate financial resources are not the only reason why marriages fail; a lack of communication between partners can also contribute to a failed marriage. Given these difficulties, parents will find it challenging to provide their children with the necessary upbringing and home training.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.
There is a popular saying in the North here that “God does not abandon his servants” and most of the youths here are of the mindset of getting in marriage without any source of income to the support the family, they have become more reliant on the the saying, they believe God will not abandon them and will always provide a way to feed them so that’s what drive them to marry despite having no source of income which is a bad practice.

I also believe in God, and I am aware that he never deserts his servant, but how do you intend to constantly rely on God's miracle, endangering the lives of your spouse and kids? It's actually not a good idea; instead of running the danger of ending your marriage, it's preferable to always plan before getting married and make sure you have a way to support yourself, no matter how little.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: flyingcarpet on December 24, 2023, 02:07:00 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

Nowadays, it is becoming increasingly difficult to meet our needs. The needs of a family increase day by day. You must have sufficient income for this. Because human needs are increasing day by day and require financial power.

Individuals should know their responsibilities in family life. It may not be right to attribute everything to material things, but material things are necessary for livelihood. Being financially stable makes people feel comfortable.

The most important thing is that individuals respect each other. This situation can be reversed when you are financially strong or financially weak. Things can go better if individuals are respectful and responsible towards each other.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: sokani on December 24, 2023, 04:19:04 PM
it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

If I understand you correctly, what you're trying to say is that poor financial structure is mainly responsible for failed marriages. I don't agree with you. Don't get me wrong, finance is good but money is not always the cause of failed marriages. A man can be well to do, provides the family needs, gives the wife and kids all the love and affection and the wife can still become disinterested at some point. I've seen cases like this.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

That's right, a wise man plans for the future before he embarks on it. You don't have to wait during or after marriage before you begin to act. While courting, you should be preparing yourself, read books about marriage and relationship, attend marriage seminars, sake advice from marriage counselors.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 24, 2023, 06:44:15 PM
In my opinion, a man who has a good mindset, when they are young they will do positive things and of course people like this will definitely think about the future that they will experience later, because one day they will have their own family to support. Therefore, before having a wife, they must have prepared everything, including their own financial structure. Also, in my opinion, those who have a good mindset will likely be independent, not depend much on their parents, even if their parents are rich, they will not too dependent on his parents.

preparing a financial structure before starting a family is important, because there is a wife to support and also later there will be children to support too, therefore in my opinion having a job that makes money clearly must be done before having a family, because as a man - Men of course we have to have responsibility, and also in the future we will be the head of the family, therefore, in my opinion, men's responsibilities are very important in the family.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: JunaidAzizi on December 24, 2023, 07:25:33 PM
In my opinion, a man who has a good mindset, when they are young they will do positive things and of course people like this will definitely think about the future that they will experience later, because one day they will have their own family to support.....
You are right and I support your thoughts and opinions. Mostly we saw many people who are financially independent and still take their pocket money from their father and want to marry a girl and I saw this in those people who are irresponsible and did not take steps to move forward in their lives. They marry and then their life goes full of problems and issues that they want to solve but they can't because at that time their legs and hands are bounded. On the other, those people who are responsible do not want to get married and the reason is that firstly think about the life they spend after their marriage and when they did not get married until they make themselves independent and do something for their family. The lives of these people go very smoothly and their marriages are long-lasting. For a successful married life financial stability is more important because your marriage's successful chances depend on it.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: panganib999 on December 24, 2023, 10:16:38 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
I would agree with everything you said since at the end of the day, it always pays to be financially responsible in such a way that you're ensuring the stability of your finances before you even decide to settle down. The only thing that I couldn't really agree with is the fact that you're supposing as if your wife's not gonna be financially responsible in her own right as well, and not in a sense where "I'm gonna depend on her for shit" type. I mean in a way where she would also be partnering with you in ensuring that a safe financial future between the two of you is achieved, you feel me? She might get herself her own job and save her own money while chipping in on the family bank account, and I think that's okay as well.

Ultimately you are right, it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener at war as they say, but it also helps to actually invest time in finding a responsible partner that you know's not gonna just be leeching off of your funding. Someone who's going to help you through and through.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: poodle63 on December 25, 2023, 12:31:39 AM
its truly important to be set up financially before even having marriage because financial is the bane of the existence of the family without it divorcement occurred quite frequently.
after all, before when you were a single person you don't have to worry about fulfilling basic needs you can live frugally and have that kind of irresponsible spending for your earning but when you have family you have to take up the responsibility of also taking care your spouse, even your descendant, therefore money spending become the reason that keeps your family together otherwise it will crack and it will be a problematic thing you need to face.
always know that starting out family is not some measly thing, its not a thing that can be underestimated, so many people kept saying that they will figure it out as the time goes when they get married, but alas there are too many cases in the court in regard of divorcement. such thing also probably starts out from the fact that they try to figure out how to earn enough for family and they failed miserably because earning money is definitely tough thing.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: HONDACD125 on December 25, 2023, 04:04:30 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

I myself have seen many people whose children are not able to earn on their own, but they marry them off.Often in such cases, their results are not good. It is a good source of income for any man to start his best life. A man who will not be able to fulfill his needs, how will he be able to fulfill the needs of his wife?In my opinion, the parents who arrange marriages in such a case should think, especially the girl's parents should not marry such boys who are not fulfilling their responsibilities. In this, I consider the girl's parents to be more guilty, why they get their daughters married in places that are not able to earn on their own.

 Most of the people who have a lot of wealth and do not enable their children to earn rather they decide on child marriages believing in their earnings which is definitely wrong. Perhaps no matter how much wealth one has, one should enable one's children to earn for themselves. So that he can become a responsible member of the house and society.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Egii Nna on December 25, 2023, 05:51:43 AM
Actually, it is very unlikely to be financially stable before you can think of taking another job for yourself or marrying someone’s daughter. Financial stability doesn’t mean being that rich or that wealthy. but to have good and complete access to money. Have what to do for a daily living in order to survive.
There is a proverb that says that all hands are not equal. That means we are all not going to be rich and wealthy, and some of us will still be poor. That is why I said you should be financially stable or have something to do to provide for yourself before you can get married, because even if you are poor, if you can meet some requirements of provision for the family, you are good to go. For instance, if you are married to the love of your life and you are working, you receive $50 as a monthly payment. In this situation, you can’t say you are rich or financially stable, but you have something to do that can provide for you and your family. What you need to do is just plan your life and that of your family on a budget so that you can live and manage your life.

 
Most of the people who have a lot of wealth and do not enable their children to earn rather they decide on child marriages believing in their earnings which is definitely wrong. Perhaps no matter how much wealth one has, one should enable one's children to earn for themselves. So that he can become a responsible member of the house and society.

There is something that I want you to understand about wealthy and rich; these two things have broad differences. because being rich means you have some amount of money and property that can sustain you, your family, and your friends and do other things for some certain time, which can finish one day. What I mean is that you can be rich and get broke within some years of your life, but when we are talking about wealth, this is not only having some property of money but a big collaboration and shares in many big companies and also owning many companies to the extent that the amount of money you are receiving daily can be spent lavishly for 100 people or even 1000 people for a complete year. Here we are talking about what you will receive daily, not weekly or monthly. That is what is meant by being wealthy. How will you think that those children that grow up in that family will lack or even think of starting something to earn money? What will he do with it while it is abundantly available?


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: tottong on December 25, 2023, 07:19:02 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

Believe it or not, this is not entirely based on a bad financial structure because usually at the beginning of a marriage we will be tested for financial difficulties first before reaching a much better stage. Getting married is not an easy matter because we have to prepare everything for the supporting process and perhaps we also have to prepare all possibilities on how to prepare ourselves to work more precisely and efficiently to make money.

Make a mature plan and work on it in stages so that we have a target that can be achieved. Something that starts with more thorough preparation will be much easier to achieve results. Young people have to think creatively to make money and there are many ways for us to get it slowly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: inthelongrun on December 25, 2023, 10:28:35 AM
If all people prioritized financial stability before starting a family, the world would be a better place. Although I am not saying that starting a family even if the finances aren't secured yet will fail, there's still the chance of being successful. But it's just different when someone is in a financially stable condition, the chances of having a better family and becoming more successful are high.

I know there are still many people who believe in the old ways like we should get married before 30. I don't agree with it. Modern countries usually average over 30 years old when their people get married. And so it's proven rather than the old beliefs that has to change. 


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Kelward on December 25, 2023, 01:04:04 PM
Finance is an integral part of the requirements for marriages, it is something not to be ignored before settling down in the marriage, because a lack of it can affect the relationship negativity. I love you is sweeter when there's food on the table and the next meal is assured, also money in a marriage gives peace of mind when you consider basic bills to pay and eventualities of life. When you provide for your children, it helps to reduce the risk of them going astray in life, and money helps to give them good education that'll position them for better opportunities to make it in like.

However money alone does not guarantee a happy family, if it were so then the rich will not have marital issues, divorce and irresponsible children, so even with money couples still need to work on their marriages. Financial aspect is one aspect of marriage, there are others like fidelity and temperaments, with all the money in the family, without working on other aspects will lead to unhappiness.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: erep on December 25, 2023, 02:10:58 PM
I myself have seen many people whose children are not able to earn on their own, but they marry them off.Often in such cases, their results are not good. It is a good source of income for any man to start his best life. A man who will not be able to fulfill his needs, how will he be able to fulfill the needs of his wife?In my opinion, the parents who arrange marriages in such a case should think, especially the girl's parents should not marry such boys who are not fulfilling their responsibilities. In this, I consider the girl's parents to be more guilty, why they get their daughters married in places that are not able to earn on their own.
Yes, the obligation that must be fulfilled before marriage is that men must have a fixed income according to each person's economic level, at least they must reach an income like the minimum salary that has been set by the state, according to estimates that the minimum income can meet monthly needs, but if If someone can't earn that kind of income then it's better to focus on your work and don't force him to get married first because he will have the responsibility to provide financially and for the needs of his family.

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Most of the people who have a lot of wealth and do not enable their children to earn rather they decide on child marriages believing in their earnings which is definitely wrong. Perhaps no matter how much wealth one has, one should enable one's children to earn for themselves. So that he can become a responsible member of the house and society.
Those who are married must have an independent income without always expecting financial help from parents or siblings, parents may help financially for several months after they get married because parents are still attached to their children but after that the husband must be ready to replace his wife's needs, the husband must working hard to earn enough income to meet the needs of his family.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: knowngunman on December 25, 2023, 03:41:16 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

In as much as I agree with you in some areas, I will also point out to you that financial stability is not the only ingredient for a happy and successful marriage. Although, it is an important one because financial problems are one of the leading causes of divorce recently actually. When couples don't have a stable financial situation, it can lead to conflict and stress, which can ultimately take a toll on the relationship. However, we have seen cases of divorce even with the richest people and definitely it can't be financial issues that caused the divorce. My point is, a marriage destined to fail must surely failed no matter how financially buoyant they are. Marriage is all about understanding and trust and believe me, if these two are present in any marriage, finance will likely not cause harm to such marriage as long as they can feed.

You have pointed out a good thing. However, there is no place i see were the OP made mentioned of being excessively rich before going into marriage. In my understanding there is no specific age, level of finances before a person can go into marriage. All is needed is to be financial stable, in such a way that the main responsibilities are being responded to. Such things include shelter, food, electricity, water supply and other essential life needs. Once all of these are settled without stress then starting up a family will not be an issue as the basic things of life are available.

If I may ask you, what do you understand by financial stability? Having financial stability has no much difference from being rich. From the example you mentioned, food, electricity, water, shelter and other essential life needs, tell me what else you need again. These are what the riches possess and you can not wait to have all this before you think of settling down and start a family. You know some people financial breakthrough starts after marriage.. Financial stability is different from stable income and what matters here is stable income. The Bible that Op use as the reference also stated that a man need helper in his life which referring to wife. Your wife might play important role to your financial breakthrough and freedom.

One needs to have proper financial planning of course but that shouldn't hinder you from taking a partner if you have the means. You and your partner can build your home together with the support of one another. The success of your home depends on how well you can manage it and not how wealthy you are.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Promocodeudo on December 25, 2023, 04:40:33 PM
Some people make mistake by going into marriage without planing, no matter how we look at it, marriage is not something you will just go into without thinking about the future, I have a friend, we were class am mates in the secondary school, he got married to a girl because he loved the girl and faked his life to make the girl happy until the get married that's when everything turn out to be lies, as am speaking the are divorced, why because he was never prepared for marriage but he got married because of self deceit coming from his mindset, before a man can say that he is ready for marriage he should be financially ok not very rich but can afford to take care of his home without the assistance of anyone, once you are married, everyone assumes that you can take care of many things, take decision and handle some situation without the help of external person.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: mirakal on December 25, 2023, 04:59:56 PM
its truly important to be set up financially before even having marriage because financial is the bane of the existence of the family without it divorcement occurred quite frequently.
after all, before when you were a single person you don't have to worry about fulfilling basic needs you can live frugally and have that kind of irresponsible spending for your earning but when you have family you have to take up the responsibility of also taking care your spouse, even your descendant, therefore money spending become the reason that keeps your family together otherwise it will crack and it will be a problematic thing you need to face.
always know that starting out family is not some measly thing, its not a thing that can be underestimated, so many people kept saying that they will figure it out as the time goes when they get married, but alas there are too many cases in the court in regard of divorcement. such thing also probably starts out from the fact that they try to figure out how to earn enough for family and they failed miserably because earning money is definitely tough thing.
Having stable finances is actually a great factor when it comes to the future of marriage. No marriage will sure to survive if the funds are always in a downturn. Maybe it would be okay if it only happens seldom, because we can't always be on top of our finances, but if it happens all the time, no wife or spouse will be able to continue the burden, that's why divorce happens at the end of the marriage.

Not only for financial responsibility, but even to some other aspects that would contribute to the sustainability of a marriage, the two individuals need to work on it first before they enter the room for marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bitgolden on December 25, 2023, 06:11:01 PM
Having stable finances is actually a great factor when it comes to the future of marriage. No marriage will sure to survive if the funds are always in a downturn. Maybe it would be okay if it only happens seldom, because we can't always be on top of our finances, but if it happens all the time, no wife or spouse will be able to continue the burden, that's why divorce happens at the end of the marriage.

Not only for financial responsibility, but even to some other aspects that would contribute to the sustainability of a marriage, the two individuals need to work on it first before they enter the room for marriage.
I do not think that's true. I mean it's true that if the financial situation is terrible then it may not be all that great for the marriage, but that doesn't mean that it's 100% true that way. I have seen plenty of poor couples that stayed together for decades until they die, and I have seen plenty of rich people who got a divorce very quickly as well.

The whole celebrity world is filled with people marrying each other and divorcing very quickly, and certainly the business world is filled with them too. I think it's quite important to remember that you are going to end up with who you choose, if you choose someone that will not be with you if you are not financially good, then you have already made a very terrible choice to begin with.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 25, 2023, 06:49:02 PM
We all live in different countries, and in many countries, there is already a long-rooted rule that there is no need to rush into marriage. All these remarks about love and passion should be very well thought out, as many will agree that it is very difficult to maintain love where financial difficulties may arise. At the time of meetings and the candy-bouquet period, everything may seem too simple, which cannot be said when young people get married. People must understand that family means procreation and, accordingly, the creation of well-being for their spouses, and even more so for their children.
Increasing the number of children without a solid financial cushion is tantamount to increasing poverty. Intelligent people need to firmly understand the responsibilities they take on when they get married.
Deep down most people understand this, however the economy all around the world is not doing well so people are forced in a difficult situation, do they wait until they get financially stable and risk the relationship with this person they consider the love of their life to end? Or they take the risk and tie the knot now even if they are not ready? And neither is an easy choice, and it is up to each person to decide which one of those options is the one that makes the most sense taking into account all the factors that surround them.
It's seldom to see lovers wait for their finances to be stable before getting married, as what most happened these days is that they rush into marriage first and from there, they both create plans in order to attract financial stability until they achieved it together. Or worst is that both rush into marriage and give birth to their kids and end up with divorce because they can't stand the suffering that both have experienced because of lack of finances due to no stable source of living.

This just proves that financial security is very crucial in building a family, even though we often say that money is not everything.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Mauser on December 25, 2023, 08:16:39 PM
Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

I fully agree with you, in my country 50% of marriages fail and this likely because people are rushing things and don't first plan their life together. Getting married only because it's the cultural norm, or your family pressures you into it is wrong and should be avoided. The world changed a lot in the last 30 years and it's possible to live together without directly getting married. I would recommend to dating for a longer period of time and to make sure we really know the other person before taking the next steps. Financially problems are one of the big reasons for a divorce and that should be addressed before hand. Being financially responsible makes you a better partner and will also help your children a lot when growing up. And once we accumulate some wealth, we need to make sure it stays within the family. It's not only about divorce, because everything will be a percentage based on total net worth, it also comes to paying taxes once we give money to our children or paying for the inheritance.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: eightdots on December 25, 2023, 08:52:43 PM
Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

I fully agree with you, in my country 50% of marriages fail and this likely because people are rushing things and don't first plan their life together. Getting married only because it's the cultural norm, or your family pressures you into it is wrong and should be avoided. The world changed a lot in the last 30 years and it's possible to live together without directly getting married. I would recommend to dating for a longer period of time and to make sure we really know the other person before taking the next steps. Financially problems are one of the big reasons for a divorce and that should be addressed before hand. Being financially responsible makes you a better partner and will also help your children a lot when growing up. And once we accumulate some wealth, we need to make sure it stays within the family. It's not only about divorce, because everything will be a percentage based on total net worth, it also comes to paying taxes once we give money to our children or paying for the inheritance.


It is important to work for your future before and after marriage. Nowadays, you need to have a regular income to be able to do many things. To be able to provide for your family and not be dependent on others, you need to have a regular income and it needs to be enough to sustain your life and provide for your family.

As you mentioned, rushing into marriage is a big problem. People put themselves in a difficult situation by not planning for their future and acting without a plan, as if getting married will make everything easier. You should plan your future with the person you are going to be a family with before you get married.

Living alone is not the same as living as a family. You need to be mature individuals who can distinguish this.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: slapper on December 26, 2023, 08:49:07 AM
Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

I fully agree with you, in my country 50% of marriages fail and this likely because people are rushing things and don't first plan their life together. Getting married only because it's the cultural norm, or your family pressures you into it is wrong and should be avoided. The world changed a lot in the last 30 years and it's possible to live together without directly getting married. I would recommend to dating for a longer period of time and to make sure we really know the other person before taking the next steps. Financially problems are one of the big reasons for a divorce and that should be addressed before hand. Being financially responsible makes you a better partner and will also help your children a lot when growing up. And once we accumulate some wealth, we need to make sure it stays within the family. It's not only about divorce, because everything will be a percentage based on total net worth, it also comes to paying taxes once we give money to our children or paying for the inheritance.

Marrying without financial planning is like having no direction in a hurricane. It's reckless and dangerous. We need to normalise financial discussions before marriage. Year 2023, not 1953! Budgets, debts, income, and savings. It's about building a solid foundation, not just avoiding divorce. No longer should love conquer all, especially financial illiteracy. It doesn't. Finances may strain even the closest relationships. We must acknowledge and act on this.

Talk about wealth accumulation and retention. Smart, not greedy. You highlighted important topics like inheritance and gifts. The goal is to keep and expand family money, not merely make it. Know taxes, estate planning, and investment methods. Money should work for us and our families, not only for us. Teach ourselves and our families financial literacy. A gift that lasts generations. If we don't discuss finances before saying I do, we'll be financially devastated.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Republikcoin.com on December 26, 2023, 09:42:56 AM
In my opinion, a man who has a good mindset, when they are young they will do positive things and of course people like this will definitely think about the future that they will experience later, because one day they will have their own family to support. Therefore, before having a wife, they must have prepared everything, including their own financial structure. Also, in my opinion, those who have a good mindset will likely be independent, not depend much on their parents, even if their parents are rich, they will not too dependent on his parents.
Young people who like to be independent and also like to think about the future with the right mindset usually come about through education or basic upbringing from their parents, even though financially their families are already quite rich. I've seen young people like that in my place, but unfortunately there aren't that many of them because what I see most often are young people who are lazy and don't want to work to become more independent. Even though they are not very rich and there is nothing more they can expect from their parents.

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preparing a financial structure before starting a family is important, because there is a wife to support and also later there will be children to support too, therefore in my opinion having a job that makes money clearly must be done before having a family, because as a man - Men of course we have to have responsibility, and also in the future we will be the head of the family, therefore, in my opinion, men's responsibilities are very important in the family.
This preparation actually includes several important aspects before a man takes on greater trust and responsibility when he is married or when he is running his own household. So things like work and income as well as some savings are initial preparations that can be shown to his own family and also to his wife's family so that both parties can be confident enough to unite their children under one roof. Apart from that, responsibility will show itself when both of them have lived their lives for a long time, because there are things that must be done by the man and there are also things that must be done by the wife.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on December 26, 2023, 05:05:47 PM
Yes from my experience I would say if you financially strong and have already set up different stream of income then you are safe as most of the problem arises due to financial difficulties but it may look like misunderstanding or due to lack of mutual respect but if one start doing root cause analysis then they would find money to be the reason for the issue. We have made everything so difficult now and we need more money to show off and impress others as we have set expectation bar so high that we ended up compromising on our basic necessities and unfortunately I am going through that. 

sometimes in a family with a problem it is because the finances are unstable because the basic needs are also always lacking and maybe the wife will express this matter because the husband cannot generate a fixed income per month, and in my opinion when someone who already has a job that has a fixed income but there are still problems about his finances it may be due to expenses that should not occur, because many people make expenses by buying what they want, not what they need, and indeed many people tend to do things like this so that's why they have financial problems, if they can record expenses properly I think their finances can be monitored. Because I myself experienced something like this, where I have a steady job and a steady income too but within a few days the income I have is gone, and I realize it's because of things that shouldn't be bought,  therefore now I often record expenses from everything including basic needs.
Now money problems are sometimes caused by prestige too, where someone is prestigious because they are not able to be stylish like other people, and like you said, to show off, or have high expectations, in my opinion, sometimes a factor in financial problems.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: stadus on December 26, 2023, 11:41:45 PM
This factor is very necessary before entering marriage. You would not want to marry a person or be with a person who has no plans on both of you, and who has no plans on achieving financial stability. Hence, setting up financial structures at its utmost importance so that the marriage will be sustainable and will be able to provide the needs and wants of the children in the future. Not literally that you should be financially stable before getting into marriage, but at least you have stable job that can sustain and make the marriage works  for lifetime.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on December 27, 2023, 03:56:57 PM
Getting married means joining a family bond.And to be bound by this family bond, you must have merit, that is, you must do some small job or business so that you can take responsibility for the maintenance of your married wife. First you should establish yourself and then you should get married.Otherwise it will appear that you have failed to meet your wife's needs if you are not established.

If you want to live a good life after marriage then you must look after earning money.Because when a boy gets married, he can no longer be the same as he was before marriage because then his family responsibility falls on him.Earning money is the key to running a family well.

If a person after marriage is still dependent on a parents to allow him money as well as also allow some money for his wife so this financially unstability sometimes become a cause of breaking a relationship. For strong relationships a person should be involved in performing any job and earn money for their better life.

A person if ask his parents for money for himself then its okay, not a big deal but if a person is asking for money for the expenses of his wife then it become a worse situations. Only 10 or 20 percent of partners will not think about financial system but 80 percent of relationship are because of stable financial systems of a person therefore don't think that if you have no income then still your wife will be with you because everyone is not of similar thoughts.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: dunfida on December 27, 2023, 09:47:08 PM
Getting married means joining a family bond.And to be bound by this family bond, you must have merit, that is, you must do some small job or business so that you can take responsibility for the maintenance of your married wife. First you should establish yourself and then you should get married.Otherwise it will appear that you have failed to meet your wife's needs if you are not established.

If you want to live a good life after marriage then you must look after earning money.Because when a boy gets married, he can no longer be the same as he was before marriage because then his family responsibility falls on him.Earning money is the key to running a family well.

If a person after marriage is still dependent on a parents to allow him money as well as also allow some money for his wife so this financially unstability sometimes become a cause of breaking a relationship. For strong relationships a person should be involved in performing any job and earn money for their better life.

A person if ask his parents for money for himself then its okay, not a big deal but if a person is asking for money for the expenses of his wife then it become a worse situations. Only 10 or 20 percent of partners will not think about financial system but 80 percent of relationship are because of stable financial systems of a person therefore don't think that if you have no income then still your wife will be with you because everyone is not of similar thoughts.
It wouldnt really be just that right that you would really be that dependent into your parents on the time that you do get married. It would be always affecting out our ego or pride when it comes to that on which we are really that doing our very best on establishing ourselves first and becoming that independent on the things that we are doing on which we arent really that depending on what we are trying to do specially on married life.
Making yourself first established before getting into married life is a must because we know that building up a family wont really be that easy on which you should really be that financially stable
on which even we can say that money cant make the world go round but we know that this had been always an integral part of daily living.

What if you dont have that sufficient finances but getting involved with marriage life? For sure you would really be having that higher chances on getting divorced by your wife on the time
that you cant really be able to provide even with their basic needs. This is why it would be always better that planning beforehand would really be crucial. Love wont really be enough
on surviving because even with the basic needs on which it does really need up the money to be spent.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: barisbilgili on December 28, 2023, 05:26:24 AM
If all people prioritized financial stability before starting a family, the world would be a better place. Although I am not saying that starting a family even if the finances aren't secured yet will fail, there's still the chance of being successful. But it's just different when someone is in a financially stable condition, the chances of having a better family and becoming more successful are high.

I know there are still many people who believe in the old ways like we should get married before 30. I don't agree with it. Modern countries usually average over 30 years old when their people get married. And so it's proven rather than the old beliefs that has to change. 
It is indeed very important to prepare for financial stability before starting a family because if you don't have a steady source of income it will be very difficult to meet the family's needs.
For some people who have achieved financial stability, it is easier to meet their family's needs because they have a steady income that can guarantee the needs they need.
In my opinion, it would be better for us to get married when the data guarantees the needs of the family that we are going to build because if we have not been able to meet the needs of the family and we have decided to get married, I don't think we will be able to last long, because one of the reasons people divorce is because they don't can meet their family's needs.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: HONDACD125 on December 29, 2023, 05:02:07 AM

 
Most of the people who have a lot of wealth and do not enable their children to earn rather they decide on child marriages believing in their earnings which is definitely wrong. Perhaps no matter how much wealth one has, one should enable one's children to earn for themselves. So that he can become a responsible member of the house and society.

There is something that I want you to understand about wealthy and rich; these two things have broad differences. because being rich means you have some amount of money and property that can sustain you, your family, and your friends and do other things for some certain time, which can finish one day. What I mean is that you can be rich and get broke within some years of your life, but when we are talking about wealth, this is not only having some property of money but a big collaboration and shares in many big companies and also owning many companies to the extent that the amount of money you are receiving daily can be spent lavishly for 100 people or even 1000 people for a complete year. Here we are talking about what you will receive daily, not weekly or monthly. That is what is meant by being wealthy. How will you think that those children that grow up in that family will lack or even think of starting something to earn money? What will he do with it while it is abundantly available?

If I interpret your words a little, the person who has more wealth is called rich in the society. He who does not have wealth is not called rich, so both of them are necessary and obligatory. If some money and property can disappear after some time, then those who own big companies, big properties and shares in different places do not take long to lose their wealth, because it is the law of nature that when someone falls, then both a little wealth and a lot of wealth can disappear for him.

No matter how much wealth one has, he never wants his children to be unable to manage his wealth. so it is the duty of all parents to make them responsible. I have seen many people who work hard in their life and build big companies but their children are not as capable as them and they are not able to train them well.Due to this, their children waste all the wealth earned by their father. As much as it is difficult to earn wealth, it is difficult to manage and maintain it. So with being more affluent one has to prepare their children about these things.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 29, 2023, 05:54:38 AM
If all people prioritized financial stability before starting a family, the world would be a better place. Although I am not saying that starting a family even if the finances aren't secured yet will fail, there's still the chance of being successful. But it's just different when someone is in a financially stable condition, the chances of having a better family and becoming more successful are high.

I know there are still many people who believe in the old ways like we should get married before 30. I don't agree with it. Modern countries usually average over 30 years old when their people get married. And so it's proven rather than the old beliefs that has to change. 
It is indeed very important to prepare for financial stability before starting a family because if you don't have a steady source of income it will be very difficult to meet the family's needs.
For some people who have achieved financial stability, it is easier to meet their family's needs because they have a steady income that can guarantee the needs they need.
In my opinion, it would be better for us to get married when the data guarantees the needs of the family that we are going to build because if we have not been able to meet the needs of the family and we have decided to get married, I don't think we will be able to last long, because one of the reasons people divorce is because they don't can meet their family's needs.
Exactly! Financial instability will make a family's bond become weaker and sometimes it ends up being divorced. Kids are the most affected individuals in this kind of event. So I think young people who are planning to settle down  should rethink before worst thing has to happen. I can see majority of young people that suffer this kind of situation ends pretty badly here in my place. I know that they are confident in having kids at a very young age because of the governments financial aid. That is why they sometimes has no plans of trying to get a decent job to support their family because of that financial aid. When I see these people I feel pity and a bit disappointed because they are not helping themselves get out of poverty.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Rockstarguy on December 29, 2023, 06:47:39 AM
This factor is very necessary before entering marriage. You would not want to marry a person or be with a person who has no plans on both of you, and who has no plans on achieving financial stability. Hence, setting up financial structures at its utmost importance so that the marriage will be sustainable and will be able to provide the needs and wants of the children in the future. Not literally that you should be financially stable before getting into marriage, but at least you have stable job that can sustain and make the marriage works  for lifetime.
Marriage is all about planning between two adults and when their is no financial plan in the equation it makes everything becomes difficult. Marriage comes with so much responsibilities that money finance is a very important factor. The financial responsibilities in marriage increases everyday because a man and a woman coming together to make a family, they will have children to train and money must be available to take care of them. As children grows their demands increases too.

Their must be a financial plan in every marriage,  without no plan the marriage will be very difficult which will end up to regret making such decisions without plans.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: jeha2015 on December 29, 2023, 07:09:24 AM
It is indeed very important to prepare for financial stability before starting a family because if you don't have a steady source of income it will be very difficult to meet the family's needs.
For some people who have achieved financial stability, it is easier to meet their family's needs because they have a steady income that can guarantee the needs they need.
In my opinion, it would be better for us to get married when the data guarantees the needs of the family that we are going to build because if we have not been able to meet the needs of the family and we have decided to get married, I don't think we will be able to last long, because one of the reasons people divorce is because they don't can meet their family's needs.

Marriage is a scary thing, of course it's not something to joke about, before getting married, it would be good for us to prepare ourselves first, such as being financially stable and having a permanent job, and of course mentally. Or at least we have the nature of hard work and are willing to try.

If this doesn't exist then it's better to postpone the marriage because as you said and the facts on the ground are that many couples divorce for economic reasons. In fact, after divorce the economy improves, why not improve the economy together? Besides, after a divorce, who will be the victim, it must be the child. That's why before getting married, apart from the need to be financially mature, we also need to have a strong mentality.

Actually, the main key is knowledge. Marriage requires knowledge, there will be no divorce if both of them have knowledge and of course also have an understanding and life principles that are in line. everything is built on the basis of science.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: cakravothy on December 29, 2023, 08:04:29 AM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Call_Me_Guru on December 29, 2023, 11:47:22 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Despite been financial stable is sacrosanct to good marriage, is just 1 factor among others that makes marriages works. Some people are stable financially and their marriages didn't work. Some were financial stable before marriage but years down the line that source of income stopped and their marriages were not shaken till they could get back on their feets whereas others did not. What makes a marriage to flourish boils down to individuals in it and their decisions to make best out of it as it takes two to tangle. Using a car as an example, you cant say Fuel is the best ingredient to make it work when we have engine oil, gear oil, fan belt etc contributing to its functionality, without any car will not work properly or function at all.
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Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

Having money or financially stable or lack thereof doesn't make a child to behave properly. If a child is not properly trained by conscious effort from the parents they will misbehave. Firstly, training a child comes from the PARENTS, then schools to society and if those parents fails to train them then they have passed their responsibility to School and Society and you know what goes on there now are not funny. Parent must be intentional in training there wards regardless of how busy and wealthy they might be.
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It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

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Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

This statement is too general. A man can spend money on a wife and not respect her, a wife can be pampered with wealthy and still not respect the husband. Nowadays, what we have is transactional marriage. We are seeing cases everyday in High court with well to do people having issues with one another. Always study who fit your way of life and ideology to marry. Marry who respects you and who you respect because after marriage that might not change.
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Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Love is never enough to keep a home but combinations of money, love, respect, openness, communication and most importantly Tolerance is the key.
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Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: lizarder on December 29, 2023, 01:12:52 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.
Getting married is a shift in responsibility where previously our partner was borne by his parents, but after vowing to live with us, that responsibility has completely shifted to us. Getting married is not an easy matter because there are many things we need to prepare and if we don't have a good financial plan it will be quite difficult for us to meet our living needs.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
Even though many people say that getting married doesn't require a lot of money to make the family happy, for me we need to prepare better financially because when we are married there are many things that need to be prepared. But furthermore, couples must also accept the process of seeking wealth because it is impossible for us to reach the stage of wealth in an instant way. When support from our partner is there, we can work together to reach a much better level of wealth and if our partner is able to save on expenses while we are still struggling it will be much better.

I struggled with my partner to reach the stage of financial freedom and this support made me even more enthusiastic about seeking fortune. Spouses also have an important role in reaching the stage of financial freedom because their support means a lot to us.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Baki202 on December 29, 2023, 01:32:55 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.
Before getting married, there are several factors to take into account. Mature people also think about their level of income because they are not prepared for marriage if they lack good money management skills. Motivation bothers me. If you want to take charge, then do it without waiting for anyone or anything to motivate you. Some people struggle harder to provide for their families than others, not because they don't work, but rather because they lack time management skills. As the head of the household, men have a lot of responsibilities. And been a man is not easy at all. Their are more to his shoulder than people can explain.

And because of a lot of things that are happening now marriages don't even last any longer a lot of cases popping up everywhere and money is part of it, some ladies will even abandon their husband for another man because of money, marriage is full with a lot of complication, so know who you marrying to don't just get married.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Kasabus on December 29, 2023, 02:52:33 PM
If all people prioritized financial stability before starting a family, the world would be a better place. Although I am not saying that starting a family even if the finances aren't secured yet will fail, there's still the chance of being successful. But it's just different when someone is in a financially stable condition, the chances of having a better family and becoming more successful are high.

I know there are still many people who believe in the old ways like we should get married before 30. I don't agree with it. Modern countries usually average over 30 years old when their people get married. And so it's proven rather than the old beliefs that has to change. 
If you marry before 30 years of age these days, you will miss a lot of opportunities that you might suppose to enjoy at your mid 20s. So I don't see it significant as well following that old trend. However, its also a case to case basis. If you are an inheritor of a rich family, then there's no reason to delay your age before marrying, or you own an executive position in a company, then you can marry even before 30s. But if you're a minimum wage earner, then save a lot first and find a more stable job before settling down.

Being financially stable is crucial when you plan to enter marriage. Its still different when you can provide your spouse and your future children the quality life they deserved. The marriage will work even more and the family will be a lot happier and healthier compared to those who decide to marry unprepared.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: NewRanger on December 29, 2023, 03:21:27 PM
If you marry before 30 years of age these days, you will miss a lot of opportunities that you might suppose to enjoy at your mid 20s. So I don't see it significant as well following that old trend. However, its also a case to case basis. If you are an inheritor of a rich family, then there's no reason to delay your age before marrying, or you own an executive position in a company, then you can marry even before 30s. But if you're a minimum wage earner, then save a lot first and find a more stable job before settling down.

I think your advice above is very suitable for those of you who are not married because after starting a family, finances become the dominant factor. It's true and we read about many cases that end badly. If you don't have children, I don't think it's a big problem, but if you do, it becomes a mental burden for they children in the future.

Well, this is where maturity and responsibility are born and it is not an easy matter, on the other hand, after starting a family there will be many unexpected costs that come up without us realizing it and the only solution should be to find additional income back in the end.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Davian144 on December 29, 2023, 03:47:56 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.
This is quite true and not at all wrong, because what I have experienced and have been living since I got married in early 2018 is a quite real fact that every person must have an income before entering marriage. Because the families of the bride and groom only provide a little help, the rest we have to do ourselves, even though their families are rich, but we still have to work on our own income. How to manage finances is actually not complicated if there is money to manage and everyone can immediately learn when they have full responsibility for their own household.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bounceback on December 29, 2023, 04:19:22 PM
Even though many people say that getting married doesn't require a lot of money to make the family happy, for me we need to prepare better financially because when we are married there are many things that need to be prepared. But furthermore, couples must also accept the process of seeking wealth because it is impossible for us to reach the stage of wealth in an instant way. When support from our partner is there, we can work together to reach a much better level of wealth and if our partner is able to save on expenses while we are still struggling it will be much better.

I struggled with my partner to reach the stage of financial freedom and this support made me even more enthusiastic about seeking fortune. Spouses also have an important role in reaching the stage of financial freedom because their support means a lot to us.
Little disagree with some people opinion when marriage will get many source income in the future, we need prepare all thing before marriage and most important with stable financial and have good work before building serious relationship as marriage.  Every day have many unpredictable need and we must spent money exactly after marriage and have children, before building serious relationship or have family prepare saving, good financial set up until good work with enough salary payment for daily needed when having family.

Good educate for every one before marriage build up good financial and have much saving because if you face difficult with income when marriage I doubt how long your marriage relation will existing.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Yatsan on December 29, 2023, 07:44:33 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.
This is quite true and not at all wrong, because what I have experienced and have been living since I got married in early 2018 is a quite real fact that every person must have an income before entering marriage. Because the families of the bride and groom only provide a little help, the rest we have to do ourselves, even though their families are rich, but we still have to work on our own income. How to manage finances is actually not complicated if there is money to manage and everyone can immediately learn when they have full responsibility for their own household.
No matter how we fantasize not involing financial capabilities with marriage, it will always be a factor. Things would change once you build up your own family and that also includes calibrating your financial responsibilities; if you don't have that much of money then problem may arise. Love alone can build a family but won't sustain it in a long run; we have to be practical of how we would handle things before entering this phase of our lives. Inagine having no enough money; daily needs wil be a problem, most of the time stressed of the bills, not being able to give your child the life you want he/she live in the futurec, etc. Courtship is different from marriage; never too confident of how things would go after marriage so better be prepared.
Even though many people say that getting married doesn't require a lot of money to make the family happy, for me we need to prepare better financially because when we are married there are many things that need to be prepared. But furthermore, couples must also accept the process of seeking wealth because it is impossible for us to reach the stage of wealth in an instant way. When support from our partner is there, we can work together to reach a much better level of wealth and if our partner is able to save on expenses while we are still struggling it will be much better.

I struggled with my partner to reach the stage of financial freedom and this support made me even more enthusiastic about seeking fortune. Spouses also have an important role in reaching the stage of financial freedom because their support means a lot to us.
Little disagree with some people opinion when marriage will get many source income in the future, we need prepare all thing before marriage and most important with stable financial and have good work before building serious relationship as marriage.  Every day have many unpredictable need and we must spent money exactly after marriage and have children, before building serious relationship or have family prepare saving, good financial set up until good work with enough salary payment for daily needed when having family.

Good educate for every one before marriage build up good financial and have much saving because if you face difficult with income when marriage I doubt how long your marriage relation will existing.
While we're still young we should already be futuristic of things; saving, buying necessary things from the store, engaging to investments and assets.Most of the people have lived quite of a sustaining life but sustaining won't be enough, then it should reflect your readiness of marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: angrybirdy on December 29, 2023, 09:03:55 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.
This is quite true and not at all wrong, because what I have experienced and have been living since I got married in early 2018 is a quite real fact that every person must have an income before entering marriage. Because the families of the bride and groom only provide a little help, the rest we have to do ourselves, even though their families are rich, but we still have to work on our own income. How to manage finances is actually not complicated if there is money to manage and everyone can immediately learn when they have full responsibility for their own household.

Here in our country, other people are kinda funny, getting married at an early age with no savings or anything like own house or property. So after the marriage, what happens is they are living in the parents' house, instead of living apart.
Sometimes they really not aware about family planning, so the ones who struggle the most and take responsibility are the parents. They are helpless because of course, it is their child who is asking for help and they cannot refuse.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Distinctin on December 29, 2023, 09:56:57 PM
Being financially stable will contribute a lot to the welfare of the marriage. With sufficient funds to raise a family, that will make both the husband and wife stress free in their marriage and will most likely live a happy marriage. Unlike those marry without stable sources of income and without stable savings, the marriage might only suffer in the long run and the success and happiness of marriage will be put into compromise.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 29, 2023, 10:39:51 PM
Having a resourceful career or a business that consistently brings money is as important as choosing a life partner. One of the major causes of divorce is as a result of financial instability. As a mature and learned adult, before you think of setting down, you should have built a business that can be able to sustain at least a family of four or five depending on the number of kids you want to raise. Love is not the only thing that spice up marital life, money plays a vital role. A woman respects a man who caters for her and the kids.

With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the major cause of failed marriages is as a result of poor financial structure. so, it is advised that a man should have a steady income business before walking down the aisle with his partner.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: boty on December 30, 2023, 01:41:15 AM
Being financially stable will contribute a lot to the welfare of the marriage. With sufficient funds to raise a family, that will make both the husband and wife stress free in their marriage and will most likely live a happy marriage. Unlike those marry without stable sources of income and without stable savings, the marriage might only suffer in the long run and the success and happiness of marriage will be put into compromise.
What you say is very true, when someone is financially stable it will be easy to build their family well and will not have financial problems in their family, because I often see some people who choose to divorce because they cannot give their wife money. for their family's shopping needs, so it will be very important before deciding to get married, it would be better for us to have a job that has an income and is sufficient for our shared needs.
If we have decided to get married and don't have a stable income, of course we have to commit to working together to provide for their family and if this can be done it will certainly be very good for the relationship we build together.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: beerlover on December 30, 2023, 08:12:26 AM
No matter how we fantasize not involing financial capabilities with marriage, it will always be a factor. Things would change once you build up your own family and that also includes calibrating your financial responsibilities; if you don't have that much of money then problem may arise. Love alone can build a family but won't sustain it in a long run; we have to be practical of how we would handle things before entering this phase of our lives. Inagine having no enough money; daily needs wil be a problem, most of the time stressed of the bills, not being able to give your child the life you want he/she live in the futurec, etc. Courtship is different from marriage; never too confident of how things would go after marriage so better be prepared.
Yes; this is definitely true, if you are married then you are going to have higher expenses. The thing about the differences between women and men is that men are simple creatures, we are really fine with not seeing the wonders of the world, we are fine staying at our home, drinking a beer, watching a show and sleeping.

In fact, it is so much so that, if you provide a men enough money to just be able to afford bills, food and a decent enough shelter, most of them will not require anything more, you literally have all your expenses covered, maybe medical bills if anything happens, but as long as they can wake up, eat, drink a coffee, read the news, nap, wake up, eat dinner, watch tv, and go to sleep without going to work and still paying for all this, that is as good of a retirement as it gets.

Women are not like that, they want more, they see others having more, and they want more themselves, so that difference could cause a bit of a trouble in marriage if you are not careful, both sides needs to meet in the middle.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bitLeap on December 30, 2023, 08:40:11 AM
Being financially stable will contribute a lot to the welfare of the marriage. With sufficient funds to raise a family, that will make both the husband and wife stress free in their marriage and will most likely live a happy marriage. Unlike those marry without stable sources of income and without stable savings, the marriage might only suffer in the long run and the success and happiness of marriage will be put into compromise.
Our needs when we are single will be very different when we are married, because we have to fulfill the needs of 2 people at once, especially if we already have a baby. Therefore, financial stability is very important. It requires a commitment from 2 people to really be able to make our financial situation good and also not forget to work hard. Marriage is not a 1 or 1 year relationship, but it will be a lifelong relationship, therefore we must be able to prepare it as well as possible.
This is the age where weddings are very expensive, I mean the cost of maintaining the "prestige". But if the two of them can commit to not having a lavish event and rather turn the money they have into capital, it's wiser. But of course, marriage is sacred and you want it to be an unforgettable moment by having a lavish event.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: lizarder on December 30, 2023, 04:15:06 PM
Little disagree with some people opinion when marriage will get many source income in the future, we need prepare all thing before marriage and most important with stable financial and have good work before building serious relationship as marriage.  Every day have many unpredictable need and we must spent money exactly after marriage and have children, before building serious relationship or have family prepare saving, good financial set up until good work with enough salary payment for daily needed when having family.
If your view is like this and if you live in a country where it is difficult to get a job then I am sure you will never be able to get married, because as you said, before marriage we must have a stable source of income. We can prepare everything to achieve financial stability, but not everyone can get lucky quickly and when you get married, the prayers of a wife or children will be something that makes things easier.

I went through this experience and maybe everyone doesn't necessarily agree with my views. But if you are serious, getting married will open the way for anyone to work much harder, because by getting married we have responsibilities that need to be carried out, so we will be motivated to work hard and smart in seeking financial freedom.

Good educate for every one before marriage build up good financial and have much saving because if you face difficult with income when marriage I doubt how long your marriage relation will existing. 
If you want to open your eyes then there are many people who get married initially without a stable income and they struggle together towards financial freedom. I experienced this and at the beginning of my marriage it was quite difficult to get stable finances, but when my first child was born everything changed and fortune came from various sides.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: |MINER| on December 30, 2023, 05:28:15 PM
I agree with your words. Before marriage, the earning base must be strengthened. One should not think of marriage when one does not know how to earn. After marriage, his wife and children are all dependent on a person. The responsibility of these people is on the husband.  If you don't know how to take responsibility, you should not get married. The more responsible you are, the happier your family life will be.  All men should marry through employment.  It is not that much money is needed to get married or to lead life after marriage.  You can live a happy life even with limitations. For this, you and your wife must know how to spend wisely and teach the children to be happy with limitations.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 31, 2023, 03:10:10 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.

I think so too, it would be nice before marriage, we as men must have a job with a clear income, because after marriage of course the aspect of needs will increase economically or financially. although there are people who get married who do not have a permanent job, I don't think we should make that an example that we can get married even though we don't have a job, because it's good in my opinion to have a job that has a fixed income that is better than not having a permanent tang job.

Although there are also some who assume that after marriage it can bring its own income, we should not make it an excuse for not having a job, because everyone has a different fate, so it is impossible for someone to have the same fate as someone else, also with those who already have a permanent job and are married, of course they have to manage their finances well, because if they cannot manage their finances well, it is likely that they will get problems from their finances. because not a few people get divorced because of their financial problems that are not managed properly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: CageMabok on December 31, 2023, 04:15:04 PM
I agree with your words. Before marriage, the earning base must be strengthened. One should not think of marriage when one does not know how to earn. After marriage, his wife and children are all dependent on a person. The responsibility of these people is on the husband.  If you don't know how to take responsibility, you should not get married. The more responsible you are, the happier your family life will be.  All men should marry through employment.  It is not that much money is needed to get married or to lead life after marriage.  You can live a happy life even with limitations. For this, you and your wife must know how to spend wisely and teach the children to be happy with limitations.

It is true that a husband or wife can teach their children to be happy with their limitations, but I think this is certainly not forever because a husband or wife must be able to develop through the income they earn to support their family and children. This starts at several important points after a man and woman get married with an agreement to make their family happy, so the main point seen here is the size of income accompanied by how to educate children and also how to spend money when they already have it.

Because everyone certainly has different patterns and ways of doing this, even with the aim of making themselves and their families happy after being ready to work and earn money every day. I say that because at the moment it is almost quite difficult for most people to continue living within limitations so that not everyone can survive with conditions that are always limited after they get married. So I agree more with the point you said that when someone still doesn't have a job and enough income for themselves and to support their family later, it's better not to take the risk of getting married because they are afraid that their marriage won't last long.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on January 01, 2024, 12:24:53 AM
Being financially stable will contribute a lot to the welfare of the marriage. With sufficient funds to raise a family, that will make both the husband and wife stress free in their marriage and will most likely live a happy marriage. Unlike those marry without stable sources of income and without stable savings, the marriage might only suffer in the long run and the success and happiness of marriage will be put into compromise.
Our needs when we are single will be very different when we are married, because we have to fulfill the needs of 2 people at once, especially if we already have a baby. Therefore, financial stability is very important. It requires a commitment from 2 people to really be able to make our financial situation good and also not forget to work hard. Marriage is not a 1 or 1 year relationship, but it will be a lifelong relationship, therefore we must be able to prepare it as well as possible.
This is the age where weddings are very expensive, I mean the cost of maintaining the "prestige". But if the two of them can commit to not having a lavish event and rather turn the money they have into capital, it's wiser. But of course, marriage is sacred and you want it to be an unforgettable moment by having a lavish event.

that's right, I agree with you, our needs when we are single will be different from our needs when we have a wife or family of our own, that's why I think, before getting married it's a good idea to have a job that makes clear money, because that will also help us to It will make finances easier later, especially if we have a permanent job with a steady income and have a side business that would be good, but regarding side businesses you can do this when you are married together, because there is nothing wrong with your wife helping with household finances.
Many cases of divorce occur due to unstable financial problems, and this should be a lesson for all of us so that we can consider marriage before having a clear, steady income, even though there are some people who are married but don't work yet, perhaps they rely on their parents' wealth. and I think that's unethical. So I think having your own job with a steady income would be better, even if your parents want to help financially, that's not a problem, but it's best if your parents' help is used as capital to start a business, maybe that's better. and it's true as you say, not to mention that now the cost of a wedding is very high, therefore men hope to work hard for their future.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: ferida504 on January 01, 2024, 02:54:09 AM
I would agree with some of your points about financial stability being one of the bedrocks of a successful marriage. But one key factor I will want to point out is no amount of financial stability can be used to run a home in which both parties aren’t satisfied with each others class. You don’t need to be excessively rich to get married but both of you need to understand each others status and try to bring up children in that class, not spoiling children at early ages and then try to limit them after, they have already open up and as such will start looking for other means to get what they were denied.

There is no second option about being financially stable before getting into marriage but you can’t gather all the money before marriage, you just need to get a well structured source of income first. Financial independence doesn’t guarantee a better upbringing of children
If you are ready physically and mentally in terms of strengthening a household, namely creating a vision and mission together, in this way you will get the goal of alleviating every problem in building a household, one of which is don't take saving lightly, even if it's just thousands, now you have to prepare early, namely financially, and having digital assets is very important because digital assets will increase every year, and honing skills from an early age, after all, commitment with your partner is important and you can also keep family problems a secret from other people, because why? when we tell other people about family, there are gaps in the family, family destruction, the important thing now is to be optimistic, don't be afraid to start a family


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Oasisman on January 01, 2024, 04:32:29 AM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.

I think so too, it would be nice before marriage, we as men must have a job with a clear income, because after marriage of course the aspect of needs will increase economically or financially. although there are people who get married who do not have a permanent job, I don't think we should make that an example that we can get married even though we don't have a job, because it's good in my opinion to have a job that has a fixed income that is better than not having a permanent tang job.

I think you both have overlooked the importance of having your own personal space or a house before getting married is also a very important thing that the couple must have. It is given that the husband must have a job which generates a stable income, but not having your own house is where the financial struggles starts later in the marriage. Renting apartment will eventually become a huge burden financially especially when the family members are growing. I mean a studio type room may still be feasible for a family of 4-5 in a tight budget, but it won't be comfortable anymore when the children grow up. I'm not sure but I think buying your own house when you are already married and have children is a lot more difficult to achieve than when you and your partner was still dating, but of course both have a job to build your dream house.
Again, an income is obviously very needed when you're a family man, financial management yes and also planning how to increase the income.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: 8rch7 on January 01, 2024, 06:36:45 AM
I agree with your words. Before marriage, the earning base must be strengthened. One should not think of marriage when one does not know how to earn. After marriage, his wife and children are all dependent on a person. The responsibility of these people is on the husband.  If you don't know how to take responsibility, you should not get married. The more responsible you are, the happier your family life will be.  All men should marry through employment.  It is not that much money is needed to get married or to lead life after marriage.  You can live a happy life even with limitations. For this, you and your wife must know how to spend wisely and teach the children to be happy with limitations.
No doubt with your opinion about husband responsibility for their wife and children later after marriage, here need stable financial and the husband have work indeed real working or online to give enough financial for their wife and children. In my environment have been difference cases today with many husband stay at home and ask to their wife have to work, this why important before marriage for women always find the men already have work and they will give responsibility for their wife later.

About limitation depend which one level your wife before marriage, if they come from stable financial family you have balance with their income before and after marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bitLeap on January 01, 2024, 09:28:30 AM
~snip~

that's right, I agree with you, our needs when we are single will be different from our needs when we have a wife or family of our own, that's why I think, before getting married it's a good idea to have a job that makes clear money, because that will also help us to It will make finances easier later, especially if we have a permanent job with a steady income and have a side business that would be good, but regarding side businesses you can do this when you are married together, because there is nothing wrong with your wife helping with household finances.
Many cases of divorce occur due to unstable financial problems, and this should be a lesson for all of us so that we can consider marriage before having a clear, steady income, even though there are some people who are married but don't work yet, perhaps they rely on their parents' wealth. and I think that's unethical. So I think having your own job with a steady income would be better, even if your parents want to help financially, that's not a problem, but it's best if your parents' help is used as capital to start a business, maybe that's better. and it's true as you say, not to mention that now the cost of a wedding is very high, therefore men hope to work hard for their future.
That's the way it is, and also don't forget, that marriage is not just about uniting 2 souls, but it must also unite 2 minds and hearts of course. Different opinions in a household are common, but we must also be able to see those differences as something that unites us.
When it comes to finances, it has become a sensitive area for me, even though we are already husband and wife. There needs to be openness, good communication and so on.
A man is the head of the household, they must be able to be wise in any situation, it is not easy to do that, there needs to be maturity that must be possessed.
Yes many marriages fail because of finances, it could be because they did not consider very well at the beginning.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Sebas.tian on January 01, 2024, 10:06:46 AM
Financial structure will help your marriage or family to be on a solid ground where no issues can separate the both spouse in the family, because once there is money for the woman to get whatever she want in the market and the children are attending the school of their choice, I think it will be difficult for such family to experience failure. Up bringing is very important in a home, because I came to understand that nothing last forever, and you need to bring your wife and children up in a way if your investment crash down today there will still be solid love in the family because your family will do everything possible to support you to rise again.  I think, many youths will take a good advice from this thread so that they will prepare well before going into marriage by having some investments that will be bringing income weekly or monthly.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on January 02, 2024, 03:00:07 PM
~snip~

that's right, I agree with you, our needs when we are single will be different from our needs when we have a wife or family of our own, that's why I think, before getting married it's a good idea to have a job that makes clear money, because that will also help us to It will make finances easier later, especially if we have a permanent job with a steady income and have a side business that would be good, but regarding side businesses you can do this when you are married together, because there is nothing wrong with your wife helping with household finances.
Many cases of divorce occur due to unstable financial problems, and this should be a lesson for all of us so that we can consider marriage before having a clear, steady income, even though there are some people who are married but don't work yet, perhaps they rely on their parents' wealth. and I think that's unethical. So I think having your own job with a steady income would be better, even if your parents want to help financially, that's not a problem, but it's best if your parents' help is used as capital to start a business, maybe that's better. and it's true as you say, not to mention that now the cost of a wedding is very high, therefore men hope to work hard for their future.
That's the way it is, and also don't forget, that marriage is not just about uniting 2 souls, but it must also unite 2 minds and hearts of course. Different opinions in a household are common, but we must also be able to see those differences as something that unites us.
When it comes to finances, it has become a sensitive area for me, even though we are already husband and wife. There needs to be openness, good communication and so on.
A man is the head of the household, they must be able to be wise in any situation, it is not easy to do that, there needs to be maturity that must be possessed.
Yes many marriages fail because of finances, it could be because they did not consider very well at the beginning.

Yes, I often hear that sentence, marriage is not just about uniting two souls, but uniting two different thoughts, and this must be fixed so that there are no conflicts that can cause big problems, we have to fix the two minds that must be united so that it can happen. so there is a definite goal so that a good goal occurs. Apart from that, in choosing a partner we also have to be smart, don't make the wrong choice because that will determine the future, because if we choose the wrong choice, of course we will have problems or changes in ourselves which will become a worse person because we are carried away by our partner who really has a personality. which is not good, so I think if we have a partner whose personality is not good, we can try to make him change into a better person.

and as you said, the man is the head of the family, so of course we have to be smart, wise and firm in carrying out a family relationship, lest we make mistakes that can tear a relationship apart, that's why I always think about You can have a clear income before getting married because this is of course very important.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: harapan on January 02, 2024, 03:06:18 PM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even create an aura or atmosphere for a blissful marital union
 
Financial stability before marriage is absolutely required,it's a crucial factor to consider as having a stable income can provide peace of
Mind and security.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Bright0515 on January 02, 2024, 04:24:13 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
Yeah that's a very nice topic many people go into marriages not having wat to do and with that it increases the level of illiteracy and all manners of unwanted behavior as many young people believe that their age can restrict them from having some kind of jobs and some huge amount of money for them selves not talking of going in to having a family but now I sight Bitcoin as something that has been able to help the young ones and even reduce some level of corruptions in the society now u see some young Boys getting married so quick sometimes I wonder something our parents couldn't do in their days young people today are doing then comfortably. It's a wow


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: rachael9385 on January 02, 2024, 05:47:43 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.
Yeah that's a very nice topic many people go into marriages not having wat to do and with that it increases the level of illiteracy and all manners of unwanted behavior as many young people believe that their age can restrict them from having some kind of jobs and some huge amount of money for them selves not talking of going in to having a family but now I sight Bitcoin as something that has been able to help the young ones and even reduce some level of corruptions in the society now u see some young Boys getting married so quick sometimes I wonder something our parents couldn't do in their days young people today are doing then comfortably. It's a wow
However, it is an interesting topic to discuss about. And truth be told that even if you are not capable of taking care of a family you can not also provide more money for Bitcoin because when you have decided to go into Bitcoin you should also know or take knote of bringing steady money so that you can as well accumulate Bitcoin and hold it for a long long run.
Moreover, it is not a wise choice to take or I would rather say, going into family is some one should take his or her time to think about before doing it, because bringing up a family is not something one could do with just a beer hand but with money and other necessary things, without a job one can not grow a family in a way that his or her family will stand. And same a accumulating bitcoin, if one do not have a good job that can meet his or her financial status, he or she can not also hold or accumulate Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: slapper on January 04, 2024, 01:02:56 PM
~snip~

Yes, I often hear that sentence, marriage is not just about uniting two souls, but uniting two different thoughts, and this must be fixed so that there are no conflicts that can cause big problems, we have to fix the two minds that must be united so that it can happen. so there is a definite goal so that a good goal occurs. Apart from that, in choosing a partner we also have to be smart, don't make the wrong choice because that will determine the future, because if we choose the wrong choice, of course we will have problems or changes in ourselves which will become a worse person because we are carried away by our partner who really has a personality. which is not good, so I think if we have a partner whose personality is not good, we can try to make him change into a better person.

and as you said, the man is the head of the family, so of course we have to be smart, wise and firm in carrying out a family relationship, lest we make mistakes that can tear a relationship apart, that's why I always think about You can have a clear income before getting married because this is of course very important.
Marriage is undoubtedly a complex interaction of two individuals with their unique thoughts and experiences. This togetherness challenges and evolves personalities. The goal of 'fixing' these minds is to foster mutual progress, not to change them. Harmonizing diversity to produce a cohabitation symphony is the goal. It takes patience, understanding, and most importantly, respect for each other's differences

Financial stability underpins family security. Not only is revenue tangible, but it also shows responsibility and foresight. As you say, a family leader is more than a provider; he is a mentor, tower of strength, and moral compass. The decision to marry should be accompanied by the willingness to fulfill these duties, ensuring family survival and growth. Build a legacy of love, respect, and security


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: wmaurik on January 04, 2024, 04:01:38 PM
Being financially buoyant in marriage will even create an aura or atmosphere for a blissful marital union
 
Financial stability before marriage is absolutely required,it's a crucial factor to consider as having a stable income can provide peace of
Mind and security.
Financial stability before marriage can indeed exist for some people because it depends on how someone wants to manage it well. Because most people who are not married are usually more likely to experience wasteful use of money so that financial stability can return when the person is married. This is because there has been deliberation between the wife and husband in using money and making the best possible way to manage it so that they can live a fairly happy life. Because this really needs to be thought about together in order to create a just and prosperous household.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on January 04, 2024, 06:31:19 PM
~snip~

Yes, I often hear that sentence, marriage is not just about uniting two souls, but uniting two different thoughts, and this must be fixed so that there are no conflicts that can cause big problems, we have to fix the two minds that must be united so that it can happen. so there is a definite goal so that a good goal occurs. Apart from that, in choosing a partner we also have to be smart, don't make the wrong choice because that will determine the future, because if we choose the wrong choice, of course we will have problems or changes in ourselves which will become a worse person because we are carried away by our partner who really has a personality. which is not good, so I think if we have a partner whose personality is not good, we can try to make him change into a better person.

and as you said, the man is the head of the family, so of course we have to be smart, wise and firm in carrying out a family relationship, lest we make mistakes that can tear a relationship apart, that's why I always think about You can have a clear income before getting married because this is of course very important.
Marriage is undoubtedly a complex interaction of two individuals with their unique thoughts and experiences. This togetherness challenges and evolves personalities. The goal of 'fixing' these minds is to foster mutual progress, not to change them. Harmonizing diversity to produce a cohabitation symphony is the goal. It takes patience, understanding, and most importantly, respect for each other's differences

Financial stability underpins family security. Not only is revenue tangible, but it also shows responsibility and foresight. As you say, a family leader is more than a provider; he is a mentor, tower of strength, and moral compass. The decision to marry should be accompanied by the willingness to fulfill these duties, ensuring family survival and growth. Build a legacy of love, respect, and security

That's what must be done, when we are married we must encourage progress together, by thinking about things that can generate income and make our own finances better. I also think mutual trust and mutual respect is important, because there are people who have partners who don't believe that what they are doing is the best and for their own good, also by respecting each other for the hard work they have done for the good of their own relationships and finances.

Marriage is certainly not something that can be seen as small, because in my opinion marriage is two souls who must understand each other, many cases of divorce are due to finances and lack of mutual trust in each other, in my opinion the key is in mutual trust in each other. Another thing, because even though a husband has a large income, if the wife has suspicions or cannot trust him then this will be a problem that can lead to big problems and can also lead to divorce, therefore in my opinion, it is very important to trust each other. one another.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: milewilda on January 04, 2024, 08:12:40 PM
~snip~

that's right, I agree with you, our needs when we are single will be different from our needs when we have a wife or family of our own, that's why I think, before getting married it's a good idea to have a job that makes clear money, because that will also help us to It will make finances easier later, especially if we have a permanent job with a steady income and have a side business that would be good, but regarding side businesses you can do this when you are married together, because there is nothing wrong with your wife helping with household finances.
Many cases of divorce occur due to unstable financial problems, and this should be a lesson for all of us so that we can consider marriage before having a clear, steady income, even though there are some people who are married but don't work yet, perhaps they rely on their parents' wealth. and I think that's unethical. So I think having your own job with a steady income would be better, even if your parents want to help financially, that's not a problem, but it's best if your parents' help is used as capital to start a business, maybe that's better. and it's true as you say, not to mention that now the cost of a wedding is very high, therefore men hope to work hard for their future.
That's the way it is, and also don't forget, that marriage is not just about uniting 2 souls, but it must also unite 2 minds and hearts of course. Different opinions in a household are common, but we must also be able to see those differences as something that unites us.
When it comes to finances, it has become a sensitive area for me, even though we are already husband and wife. There needs to be openness, good communication and so on.
A man is the head of the household, they must be able to be wise in any situation, it is not easy to do that, there needs to be maturity that must be possessed.
Yes many marriages fail because of finances, it could be because they did not consider very well at the beginning.
Would really be definitely a sensitive area on which on the time that those things wont really be able to understand and having no harmony on handling out things then this is where things do get messy specially if supporting your family needs would really be that lacking on which it would really be just that understandable that you as a guy or as husband want to be should really be prepared on the things that you must be preparing because just like on what most people been saying on here that you should really that make yourself that financially stable and sutainable on which having your own family isnt really that simple and you would really be needing having that financial capacity and plans so that you would really be able to provide on the things that they would be needed.

Dont make yourself getting involved into marriage if you arent that financially prepared because it would really be playing a crucial role or part when it comes to marriage life.
You cant just simply having that wedding and you cant back it up with sufficient funding because sooner or later those quarrels would be starting because you dont
have enough money for you to sustain their needs.  :D


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: carlisle1 on January 04, 2024, 08:46:42 PM
the main thing before marriage is to have an income. without income whatever is done about the motivation for financial management will not work.
because there is no money to manage, because there is no income at all.
parents must have given a good education from school to college. so then the matter of work and financial management must go alone because they are adults.
marriage is not about love, but marriage needs a life to feed his wife and children.

I think so too, it would be nice before marriage, we as men must have a job with a clear income, because after marriage of course the aspect of needs will increase economically or financially. although there are people who get married who do not have a permanent job, I don't think we should make that an example that we can get married even though we don't have a job, because it's good in my opinion to have a job that has a fixed income that is better than not having a permanent tang job.

I think you both have overlooked the importance of having your own personal space or a house before getting married is also a very important thing that the couple must have. It is given that the husband must have a job which generates a stable income, but not having your own house is where the financial struggles starts later in the marriage. Renting apartment will eventually become a huge burden financially especially when the family members are growing. I mean a studio type room may still be feasible for a family of 4-5 in a tight budget, but it won't be comfortable anymore when the children grow up. I'm not sure but I think buying your own house when you are already married and have children is a lot more difficult to achieve than when you and your partner was still dating, but of course both have a job to build your dream house.
Again, an income is obviously very needed when you're a family man, financial management yes and also planning how to increase the income.

There are things that we needed to consider before entering that marriage life, and like what you said having your own house is important,
you would not need to worry about the rent and you can use that as a spare or additional part of your budget.

Unlike when you are renting, that amount would need to be cut from your monthly salary and the obligation is needed to take care from time to time.

Setting things before entering that kind of obligation also helps to have a better future ahead, can bring comfort for the whole family.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Raflesia on January 04, 2024, 09:10:29 PM
Good educate for every one before marriage build up good financial and have much saving because if you face difficult with income when marriage I doubt how long your marriage relation will existing. 
If you want to open your eyes then there are many people who get married initially without a stable income and they struggle together towards financial freedom. I experienced this and at the beginning of my marriage it was quite difficult to get stable finances, but when my first child was born everything changed and fortune came from various sides.
This actually depends on the vision that we have. Indeed, it would be great if we get married with a good financial level because at least with that there is some kind of guarantee for us and our partners not to have trouble in doing life after building a household.
But on the other hand, we also have to be realistic in this matter because if in the end the expectations we want do not match reality, it does not mean that we cannot get married because it is a biological need that we have.
We can't wait until we're older to do that even though the obstacles will be more pronounced, but I think it's possible to find a better situation than before by getting married.

I got married without a strong financial foundation and tended to have nothing before marriage but after marriage I had more motivation to prove that I could provide decent facilities for my spouse and it worked. That doesn't mean I'm telling you to get married even if you don't have anything but in the end when our vision doesn't work out then it's hard to wait until you're established so when there's a situation that requires you to have a partner but you're still in a complicated financial situation that doesn't mean you have to wait for you to hold your partner back from getting married because that will just torture yourself and your partner because stability is not really a benchmark even though it's very good if it's done with our established situation.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Iroh on January 04, 2024, 09:37:03 PM
it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family

Children aren’t wild animals that we tame to behave a certain way. It’s also very possible to not be financially stable and yet train up your child to be morally upright. I’m not downplaying the importance of money in our lives, as we all know how important money is. But everything shouldn’t necessarily be about money.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

Admittedly, money is needed to properly take care of your spouse and later on, your kids in your family. But one thing I’m sure of is that money doesn’t guarantee love and happiness in a relationship between two adults. It may help it along but it certainly doesn’t guarantee its success. A lot of wealthy couples today look perfect to the ignorant onlooker but is shaky and hanging on by a thread.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: radjie on January 05, 2024, 04:40:30 AM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

No matter how much money we collect before marriage, it certainly does not guarantee household harmony in the future.  The point is that a partner who can accept the conditions under any circumstances will definitely provide happiness.  Many people have a lot of money but cannot feel happiness because they have a different lifestyle.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: wmaurik on January 05, 2024, 10:38:48 AM
No matter how much money we collect before marriage, it certainly does not guarantee household harmony in the future.  The point is that a partner who can accept the conditions under any circumstances will definitely provide happiness.  Many people have a lot of money but cannot feel happiness because they have a different lifestyle.

Marriage is not only about lifestyle, but also about sharing ideas in building a household together with our respective partners. Because a lot of money will also run out more easily if it is not used properly in building a household. So that's where everyone needs the same ideas so that their household can run well for a long time because this is also intended for our next generation when we are old. Or when you are no longer able to earn an income every month because your age means you are no longer able to work.

I myself have also seen a lot of divorces among young people who have married because they are unable to build a household consistently and agree with their partner. Although most of the divorces that I see are based on economic factors so that harmony does not exist in the household. So in general, economic factors can also be a supporting part of household happiness if the couple can manage it well and are open enough between the two of them.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bitLeap on January 05, 2024, 11:23:22 AM
~snip~

Yes, I often hear that sentence, marriage is not just about uniting two souls, but uniting two different thoughts, and this must be fixed so that there are no conflicts that can cause big problems, we have to fix the two minds that must be united so that it can happen. so there is a definite goal so that a good goal occurs. Apart from that, in choosing a partner we also have to be smart, don't make the wrong choice because that will determine the future, because if we choose the wrong choice, of course we will have problems or changes in ourselves which will become a worse person because we are carried away by our partner who really has a personality. which is not good, so I think if we have a partner whose personality is not good, we can try to make him change into a better person.

and as you said, the man is the head of the family, so of course we have to be smart, wise and firm in carrying out a family relationship, lest we make mistakes that can tear a relationship apart, that's why I always think about You can have a clear income before getting married because this is of course very important.
Selfishness will basically be owned by every human being, and when we build a household we must be able to suppress our selfishness and not only us, of course, our partners must also do the same. Even if it can't be at least one of us who must understand more about our partner. As a human being we will definitely want to be understood, but if we force it, it causes problems.
Conflicts in the household are common, for me they are part of the spice of marriage, but we must also be able to resolve them. Do not let a third party interfere, even if that third party is part of the family, either the man's family or the woman's family, because believe me if there is a third party who intervenes it will cause problems to widen anywhere.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: junder on January 05, 2024, 12:13:28 PM
~snip~

Yes, I often hear that sentence, marriage is not just about uniting two souls, but uniting two different thoughts, and this must be fixed so that there are no conflicts that can cause big problems, we have to fix the two minds that must be united so that it can happen. so there is a definite goal so that a good goal occurs. Apart from that, in choosing a partner we also have to be smart, don't make the wrong choice because that will determine the future, because if we choose the wrong choice, of course we will have problems or changes in ourselves which will become a worse person because we are carried away by our partner who really has a personality. which is not good, so I think if we have a partner whose personality is not good, we can try to make him change into a better person.

and as you said, the man is the head of the family, so of course we have to be smart, wise and firm in carrying out a family relationship, lest we make mistakes that can tear a relationship apart, that's why I always think about You can have a clear income before getting married because this is of course very important.
Selfishness will basically be owned by every human being, and when we build a household we must be able to suppress our selfishness and not only us, of course, our partners must also do the same. Even if it can't be at least one of us who must understand more about our partner. As a human being we will definitely want to be understood, but if we force it, it causes problems.
Conflicts in the household are common, for me they are part of the spice of marriage, but we must also be able to resolve them. Do not let a third party interfere, even if that third party is part of the family, either the man's family or the woman's family, because believe me if there is a third party who intervenes it will cause problems to widen anywhere.


Indeed, in marriage, of course we must be able to understand each other and understand each other so that problems do not occur that can trigger divorce, and we must be able to control our selfishness, because if not, ego is against ego and destruction will prevail, also by understanding each other Apart from that, we have to do it because it can also be the key to maintaining a relationship in the household. There are many cases of divorce because they cannot lower their respective egos, therefore it is important to be able to understand each other and reduce existing egotism.

It's true that conflict in the household is a normal thing,  but even so I don't think that means we can just relax without thinking about the risks of the actions we take however of course we have to prevent things that can trigger conflict, and as you said Don't intervene in the conflict that occurs,  because it's true that even if it's one of the men or women who intervenes,  it will only add to bigger problems, because in my opinion the marriage that takes place proves that someone is mature and ready Whatever happens, he is also ready to take responsibility for what happens to his household.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: nara1892 on January 05, 2024, 12:53:48 PM
With cases of failed marriages and an increasing population of youths without proper training and upbringing, it's sad to know that the root cause of it is mainly as a result of poor financial structure and plan before entering into marriage.

Setting up a system that is consistently bringing money before getting into marriage is almost as important as choosing who to get married to.  as long as food and some basic needs of the children is not a problem, it's easy to tame your children to behave a certain way but if you lack the financial resource to taking care of your family, it's almost certain that you've lost your children to learning and depending more on others to meeting most of their needs which automatically defeat what ever moral you intend planting into their lives.

It's very necessary we educate ourselves and the younger ones coming behind us to take their financial life seriously before embarking into the journey of marriage, even the Bible that most religious people depends on for guidance strictly admonishes that "he that can not provide for his household is worse than an unbeliever" and so you understand how important your financial life his before thinking on settling down.

Your wife will in addition to the love you both shere , respect you the more if she knows that you've been very responsible when it comes to providing for the financial needs of the home and likewise, no man will want to loose A woman that support in providing for the needs in the home.

Don't be blended by love as a young person, their are times that love won't be enough to run a home and that's when factors like your financial strength can come through for you.

Being financially buoyant in marriage will even help you love your partner better so try and use your head.

No matter how much money we collect before marriage, it certainly does not guarantee household harmony in the future.  The point is that a partner who can accept the conditions under any circumstances will definitely provide happiness.  Many people have a lot of money but cannot feel happiness because they have a different lifestyle.

So money is not everything but everything needs money and when you do not have enough finances then obviously family relationships will also not be fine and usually will be far from harmonious, so we cannot lie that money is something that is very important especially when you are married, this is not a matter of style but rather something that must be prepared. So by having enough money, it is clear that this will also be more able to unite our relationship with our partner to be more harmonious, because the ease of meeting needs becomes the main thing in family relationships and we can also see that not a few of them eventually choose to separate because of inadequate financial factors.

We must understand that in family relationships the most important thing is good economic strength and not just strong love, and the combination of financial capability with the bond of strong love will clearly become a harmonious family relationship.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on January 05, 2024, 02:01:32 PM
There are things that we needed to consider before entering that marriage life, and like what you said having your own house is important,
you would not need to worry about the rent and you can use that as a spare or additional part of your budget.

Unlike when you are renting, that amount would need to be cut from your monthly salary and the obligation is needed to take care from time to time.

Setting things before entering that kind of obligation also helps to have a better future ahead, can bring comfort for the whole family.

Having your own house before marriage is good luck but in present age building a house is not an easy thing because everything is so expensive that a person cannot maintain a healthy life like in previous age. Therefore it is better if you have your own house before marriage but if you don't have any then live on rent as your age of marriage will end up but you will wait for building a house before getting marriage.

When someone lives on rent then at start he will have difficulty but with the passage of time when he start to spend according to planning then he will not face any difficulty therefore get married whenever you think that now its better timing. If we think about expenses all the time then we will not be able ever to involve in married life.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 06, 2024, 10:10:28 AM
There are things that we needed to consider before entering that marriage life, and like what you said having your own house is important,
you would not need to worry about the rent and you can use that as a spare or additional part of your budget.

Unlike when you are renting, that amount would need to be cut from your monthly salary and the obligation is needed to take care from time to time.

Setting things before entering that kind of obligation also helps to have a better future ahead, can bring comfort for the whole family.

Having your own house before marriage is good luck but in present age building a house is not an easy thing because everything is so expensive that a person cannot maintain a healthy life like in previous age. Therefore it is better if you have your own house before marriage but if you don't have any then live on rent as your age of marriage will end up but you will wait for building a house before getting marriage.

When someone lives on rent then at start he will have difficulty but with the passage of time when he start to spend according to planning then he will not face any difficulty therefore get married whenever you think that now its better timing. If we think about expenses all the time then we will not be able ever to involve in married life.
I agree and it is also safe to have a house before marriage because we don't really know where is the relationship will go and end. Conjugal porperty is a bit of a headache if you got a gold digger on you if things ends up so badly. It is always best to prepare for something we don't know future results.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Webetcoins on January 06, 2024, 07:03:23 PM
Selfishness will basically be owned by every human being, and when we build a household we must be able to suppress our selfishness and not only us, of course, our partners must also do the same. Even if it can't be at least one of us who must understand more about our partner. As a human being we will definitely want to be understood, but if we force it, it causes problems.
Conflicts in the household are common, for me they are part of the spice of marriage, but we must also be able to resolve them. Do not let a third party interfere, even if that third party is part of the family, either the man's family or the woman's family, because believe me if there is a third party who intervenes it will cause problems to widen anywhere.
I agree with that. As you said, a marriage can't have no problems at all, there will be a point where problems will arise, and to be honest, it's mostly the responsibility of the man to manage the situation and resolve the issues because it's scientifically proven that women have lower thinking abilities therefore they will not always be able to take the right decisions at the right time, and if both man and woman do the same thing, the relationship will surely reach the end of the road.

So, as you said, the man should not let any third entity enter the problems and widen it up, but he should take the matter into his own hands and handle it gracefully if he doesn't want the marriage or the relationship to end. If both parties are stubborn and egoistic, and none is ready to give up, unfortunately, this will end the relationship.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Lanatsa on January 06, 2024, 07:55:01 PM
Selfishness will basically be owned by every human being, and when we build a household we must be able to suppress our selfishness and not only us, of course, our partners must also do the same. Even if it can't be at least one of us who must understand more about our partner. As a human being we will definitely want to be understood, but if we force it, it causes problems.
Conflicts in the household are common, for me they are part of the spice of marriage, but we must also be able to resolve them. Do not let a third party interfere, even if that third party is part of the family, either the man's family or the woman's family, because believe me if there is a third party who intervenes it will cause problems to widen anywhere.
I agree with that. As you said, a marriage can't have no problems at all, there will be a point where problems will arise, and to be honest, it's mostly the responsibility of the man to manage the situation and resolve the issues because it's scientifically proven that women have lower thinking abilities therefore they will not always be able to take the right decisions at the right time, and if both man and woman do the same thing, the relationship will surely reach the end of the road.

So, as you said, the man should not let any third entity enter the problems and widen it up, but he should take the matter into his own hands and handle it gracefully if he doesn't want the marriage or the relationship to end. If both parties are stubborn and egoistic, and none is ready to give up, unfortunately, this will end the relationship.
On the time that you do involved yourself into marriage on which this is a forever kind of stuff on which you would really be that needing to make it sustain and of course for you do able to sustain
then you would really be needing for you to have that financial capacity on doing so. You should really be that prepared when it comes to this situation on which you cant really just that make
yourself that getting involved with marriage thing if you arent that prepared and if you arent really that having those kind of earning on which you would really be having those
financial concern type of quarrels and arguments in the time that you would really be seeing that you dont have such supplies or whatsoever.

This is why as a guy or man then it would be always wise that you should really be that mindful about this simple stuff or lets say its a default thing to do on which
you should really be that making yourself that prepared and having those kind of financial capacity on the time  that you do touch up marriage life already.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: bitLeap on January 07, 2024, 12:36:29 PM
Selfishness will basically be owned by every human being, and when we build a household we must be able to suppress our selfishness and not only us, of course, our partners must also do the same. Even if it can't be at least one of us who must understand more about our partner. As a human being we will definitely want to be understood, but if we force it, it causes problems.
Conflicts in the household are common, for me they are part of the spice of marriage, but we must also be able to resolve them. Do not let a third party interfere, even if that third party is part of the family, either the man's family or the woman's family, because believe me if there is a third party who intervenes it will cause problems to widen anywhere.
I agree with that. As you said, a marriage can't have no problems at all, there will be a point where problems will arise, and to be honest, it's mostly the responsibility of the man to manage the situation and resolve the issues because it's scientifically proven that women have lower thinking abilities therefore they will not always be able to take the right decisions at the right time, and if both man and woman do the same thing, the relationship will surely reach the end of the road.

So, as you said, the man should not let any third entity enter the problems and widen it up, but he should take the matter into his own hands and handle it gracefully if he doesn't want the marriage or the relationship to end. If both parties are stubborn and egoistic, and none is ready to give up, unfortunately, this will end the relationship.
I've heard that men will tend to use logic and women will be more likely to use their feelings. From there, we should already know what the weaknesses of men and women are in terms of their tendency to use their thinking and feeling power. I mean when women are more likely to use their feelings, then we know what we have to guard against, and so do men.
Actually in the beginning we discussed about preparing finances before starting a family or those who are already married. But if we talk about marriage, then it will be more widespread. Actually, finances are one of the factors that cause a marriage to fall apart, but this is only one factor of many other factors that can make a family crumble.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: shinratensei_ on January 08, 2024, 01:10:19 AM
No matter how much money we collect before marriage, it certainly does not guarantee household harmony in the future.  The point is that a partner who can accept the conditions under any circumstances will definitely provide happiness.  Many people have a lot of money but cannot feel happiness because they have a different lifestyle.

money is one way to retain the marriage its no doubt statistic have spoken that many divorces linked strongly with economic condition therefore being well off before marriage is a plus point I mean yes maybe finding partner that could accept our condition is great and all but how long until they can stay accepting about it? if we never improve we wll more likely become nuisance instead of being accepted in the long term, so personally I don't believe there is such thing called unconditional love, its only unconditional when everything seems all rainbow basically at the start of relationship, but give it enough time and we'd overthink about our economic condition and so on.
therefore even though many people undermine the good effect of being economically stable for marriage, its indeed one of the most important thing moving forward.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: fredericktaylor on January 08, 2024, 05:59:52 AM
Most of the problems in our single family are due to lack of financial solvency. If there are seven people in a family, if four people have a good source of income, then the problem is less in that family. These problems arise in most families due to lack of financial solvency. When most people in a family have financial solvency then the problems will be reduced a lot. We have made everything so difficult now and we need more money to show up and impress others. I totally agree with the above saying that I believe a wife or child brings its own wealth and often we find our way to that wealth when we are married.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: carlisle1 on January 08, 2024, 10:57:39 AM
No matter how much money we collect before marriage, it certainly does not guarantee household harmony in the future.  The point is that a partner who can accept the conditions under any circumstances will definitely provide happiness.  Many people have a lot of money but cannot feel happiness because they have a different lifestyle.

money is one way to retain the marriage its no doubt statistic have spoken that many divorces linked strongly with economic condition therefore being well off before marriage is a plus point I mean yes maybe finding partner that could accept our condition is great and all but how long until they can stay accepting about it? if we never improve we wll more likely become nuisance instead of being accepted in the long term, so personally I don't believe there is such thing called unconditional love, its only unconditional when everything seems all rainbow basically at the start of relationship, but give it enough time and we'd overthink about our economic condition and so on.
therefore even though many people undermine the good effect of being economically stable for marriage, its indeed one of the most important thing moving forward.

Yeah, it's a plus and will help to avoid problem with budgeting for your daily needs, I agree that having that financial capability will really
help to strengthen the married life of certain couple.

Though not all will use it as basis, but if you have that chance to continue saving for your future before getting into this obligation, better to think
ahead of time and predict the possible life that you may have if you are financially incapability.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: wmaurik on January 09, 2024, 08:58:22 AM
I agree and it is also safe to have a house before marriage because we don't really know where is the relationship will go and end. Conjugal porperty is a bit of a headache if you got a gold digger on you if things ends up so badly. It is always best to prepare for something we don't know future results.
Owning a house before marriage is indeed a pretty good idea, but it probably only happens around rich young people or rich people who are not yet married. Meanwhile, young people of modest means or young people from poor families will definitely find it quite difficult to own a house before getting married, even though they may be able to meet all the wedding costs and also other costs within their own household. But what is still lacking there is that they have to continue living in their parents' house or rent another house as a temporary residence after marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: xSkylarx on January 09, 2024, 12:46:50 PM
 You have a point because being financially free or stable before going into marriage and having kids is an advantage. I will say an advantage because no big problems will arise or your married life will be very easy as you have money, unlike going into it without preparation. But I will tell you that this only applies in some cases because others will go into marriage without it and do their best and hard work to achieve their goals. I have seen people like this and stated that if they are single, for sure they keep partying with their money and have no point in their lives. Your partner brings you success, and there will always be hardships in every marriage.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: criptoevangelista on January 09, 2024, 03:39:28 PM
The financial part is very important for a couple, when everything is difficult and there is a lack of things at home, such as food, or late bills, it is very difficult to maintain a good coexistence, you have to have a very strong love behind it.

Some people like to manage the financial part together with their husband or wife, others prefer not to get involved, it's a very private thing.

But one thing is certain, the journey in the world of cryptocurrencies is individual.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Gozie51 on January 09, 2024, 06:15:55 PM

Some people like to manage the financial part together with their husband or wife, others prefer not to get involved, it's a very private thing.


A home well knitted will easily work pass difficult times because of the cooperation in the midst of lack. The home that has full presence of the woman will flourish more as the woman is known as the home builder. So I wonder a wife that won't support the husband in investment. Women are planners and they can help a man to achieve his dream even where the man is not investing and extravagant, she can reschedule him to investing.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: Getmon on January 10, 2024, 05:09:47 AM
I ran into a discussion like this yesterday. The majority of us recognized that we stabilized our finances before beginning to construct a family. Somebody said that it is more significant for men because they are perceived as heads of the family. Marriage is difficult, and when children are born, it becomes even more difficult. Having a sound financial set up will facilitate the difficulties in the family.

They say money cannot buy everything but living in a comfortable house, being able to send our children to a fine school, and having extra money and time for socializing are things essential to balance our lives and be more happy and more successful.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: AVE5 on January 10, 2024, 08:06:51 AM
Love could affect your family life on two different ways either the good side or the bad side but your inabilities to figure what it offers you would blindedly enfold your mindsets in the sense that you would always think whatever you do about your love life is right.
Love could make you lost opportunities because your loving emotions makes you comfortable at your states of being but otherwise, love could also encourage you to buckle up and meet up with your awaiting opportunities. It all depends the realistic possessions of your partner whereas, some partners would make you feel comfortably to settle for less while some partners embraces, energizes you with the encouragement to make meaningful life in your endivoirs.


Title: Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way
Post by: slapper on January 10, 2024, 01:35:10 PM
Love could affect your family life on two different ways either the good side or the bad side but your inabilities to figure what it offers you would blindedly enfold your mindsets in the sense that you would always think whatever you do about your love life is right.
Love could make you lost opportunities because your loving emotions makes you comfortable at your states of being but otherwise, love could also encourage you to buckle up and meet up with your awaiting opportunities. It all depends the realistic possessions of your partner whereas, some partners would make you feel comfortably to settle for less while some partners embraces, energizes you with the encouragement to make meaningful life in your endivoirs.
Love may be a soothing blanket, nurturing and helpful, helping one achieve goals. Love can also offer a safe harbor that limits growth and potential. Balance, right? In my experience, nourishing love pulls us ahead, encouraging us to greatness. Too much protection can lead to stagnation. Partnership growth and understanding are crucial, in my opinion

Your view on partner influence is correct. Our relationships can greatly influence us. They can encourage us or hold us steady. How their trust in us affects our trajectory is fascinating. When partners share the same goals and support each other, success and fulfillment are easier. However, we must be mindful of whether our partnership is a launching pad or a nurturing nest