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Title: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Findingnemo on December 27, 2023, 08:24:07 PM Edit: Now the slots are visible sand available for humans to use. If you want then make use of it.
If you have tried using viabtc accelerator to accelerate your transaction via 100 free quota per hour then it is close to impossible for the past couple of days. So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Orpichukwu on December 27, 2023, 08:28:36 PM That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? I was able to accelerate one transition just yesterday, but ever since then the rest have not been going through, and I don't think that's just a normal speed from humans, as it looks like a bot to me. The speed rate they use in using up that free slot is just a gap of 1–5 seconds, and it's abnormal to me. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hosseinimr93 on December 27, 2023, 08:31:55 PM They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely.
The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. If you check the last blocks mined by ViaBTC, you will see that they have included many low fee transactions. Read the post I made in another thread. but I'm starting to think Viabtc is no longer truly offering 100 tx per hour I think they do. Here are the latest two blocks mined by ViaBTC. Transactions are sorted by their fee rate in ascending order. (Times are in UTC.)
Just visit the above links and see how many low fee transactions they have included. According to above times, ViaBTC should have accelerated 300 transactions freely in block number 823066. Let's check if they did so. The minimum required fee rate for getting confirmation in block number 823066 was around 100 satoshi. ViaBTC included 312 transactions with the fee rate of less than 90 sat/vbyte. Click here (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?s=fee_per_kwu(asc)&q=block_id(823066),fee_per_kwu(..22500)#f=hash,block_id,input_count,output_count,time,output_total,output_total_usd,fee_usd,fee_per_kwu) to see all those transactions. 10 out of those 312 transactions were confirmed with CPFP and that means that 302 transactions were accelerated by ViaBTC. All those 302 transactions meet ViaBTC free accelerator requirements. The problem is how ViaBTC free accelerator is being abused by bots. 294 out of 302 transactions are related to ordinals. They are all 1 input - 1 output transactions paying 23 sat/vbyte. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: CryptSafe on December 27, 2023, 08:32:39 PM I noticed same as well. I tried accelerating my transaction a day ago but it was the same prompt that I got as a response. Possibly there might be a high traffic for txd acceleration which likely have exceeded their daily limit so in that case, there is no way one can be able to use the free accelerator but rather pay for txd acceleration.
On the other hand, what you have said might likely be another factor as well. There might have been a bot inversion on their website which must have had a side effect on their website and hence they might have decided to not render any free accelerator slots anymore or otherwise. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Upgrade00 on December 27, 2023, 08:35:45 PM hosseinimr93 is right. ViaBTC are still offering 100 free transactions but you are competing for those slots with bots that are active 24/7, meaning the chances of getting one transaction in is almost impossible if you're doing it manually.
This means that any other alternative way of going around the high fees can also be abused. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Hatchy on December 27, 2023, 09:13:48 PM They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely. It's quite unfair for them to employ bots to dominate everyone else. I was beginning to believe that Viabtc had discontinued their free transaction service. The last time I attempted to use their accelerator, all the available slots seemed occupied. Within just over an hour, the 100 free accelerations were already claimed, which was unexpected. I had to wait for another hour, but I stayed vigilant and managed to secure a spot. Dealing with these tactics has become exhausting, especially considering how the ordinals disrupted the mempool.The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. The problem is how ViaBTC free accelerator is being abused by bots. 294 out of 302 transactions are related to ordinals. They are all 1 input - 1 output transactions paying 23 sat/vbyte. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: tabas on December 27, 2023, 09:42:00 PM I noticed that as well and even tried to timing the time before the hour ticks on exact 00 00 time but lo and behold, I didn't win getting one transaction acceleration. But the total accelerated transactions are still increasing and that means to say that there are bots that are quicker than us.
The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. These guys don't really want to give us some convenience as even this free tx accelerator is being over taken and abused by them. I think that topics like this belongs to Service Discussion. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Potato Chips on December 27, 2023, 10:33:33 PM I too was trying to push my transaction two days ago or so and essentially gave up lmao. My theory that time was they temporarily froze the hourly reset for free tx push since I tried hitting refresh the moment an hour reset and the "Remaining hourly FREE transactions" never moved from zero -- I think I tried this on two or three hourly resets... plus, on my previous attempts which were successful, i would typically see it moved from zero.
But the bot theory sounds feasible as well. I wouldn't be surprised if some 3rd party has started a paid acceleration service through viabtc lol. Idk if they'll be able to do something 'bout it but I'll try to drop an email about this to viabtc. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Coyster on December 27, 2023, 10:45:36 PM It's quite unfair for them to employ bots to dominate everyone else. Lol, they are not trying to be fair, but they are doing what it takes to have their transactions confirmed with a low fee rate. It is crazy and frustrating to say the least, ordinals spammers clog the mempool with their transactions and now they don't let humans use the only free accelerator around, by using bots to get in before anyone else can.Within just over an hour, the 100 free accelerations were already claimed, which was unexpected. Do you mean in a split second?I had to wait for another hour, but I stayed vigilant and managed to secure a spot. It is almost impossible for a human to use viabtc free accelerator right now, the 100 slots per hour gets filled in less than a second, and by bots.Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: PX-Z on December 27, 2023, 10:50:47 PM I noticed it too, i talked about it on our local board too. I'm trying like 2 days in a row without success so i end up cancel my first transaction then push it with higher fee good thing i used electrum.
They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely. They become overboard, they are one of the reasons why the network become so congested and now this too. Shit. The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. But talking about bots, so they can bypass the captcha on viabtc? Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Nwada001 on December 27, 2023, 11:38:29 PM It's quite unfair for them to employ bots to dominate everyone else. I was beginning to believe that Viabtc had discontinued their free transaction service. The last time I attempted to use their accelerator, all the available slots seemed occupied. Within just over an hour, the 100 free accelerations were already claimed, which was unexpected. I had to wait for another hour, but I stayed vigilant and managed to secure a spot. Dealing with these tactics has become exhausting, especially considering how the ordinals disrupted the mempool. Unfair, you said? I don't see those who are also the cause of the high transaction fee ever seeing anything as fair to them; they can't see such; in fact, they will like to make good use of any opportunity that they can get from the network that also includes a cheap transaction fee after succeeding in raising the fee to its ATH this year.Whats shocking to me is that if they are actually using bots to do this, ever wonder how much such bots will cost them to be running? This is a hack and cheat, and I also don't see fees coming back to normal anytime soon, as they will continue promoting tokens until their hype is over. As long as it's still on, they will keep on filling the block space. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: BitMaxz on December 28, 2023, 12:24:38 AM I am sometimes lucky to see a few free remaining submissions on their accelerator the last time I used it was last week but right now I tried every hour always zero free submissions. I believe someone uses bots to automatically submit unconfirmed transactions.
Viabtc Captcha is very basic and easy to bypass they should replace the reCaptcha with Google reCAPTCHA v3 to get rid of these bots or else no real users can use their free accelerator. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Samlucky O on December 28, 2023, 05:53:48 AM They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely. You are actually Wright I never thought of that, but with this your detailed explanation and analysis I can boldly explain more better anywhere about this. I never knew bots can also be used to perform transactions automatically in viabtc accelerator rathar than human using manual method.The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. If you check the last blocks mined by ViaBTC, you will see that they have included many low fee transactions. Read the post I made in another thread. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hd49728 on December 28, 2023, 06:15:56 AM It is their free tx accelerator and has limited slots.
They already set their rules for us to use that free accelerator and they can change it if Ordinals continue to abuse it more. They certainly can do it with their own settings as it is their home and they don't open it for all. You can wait for other accelerator tool like mempool.space. When mempool.space will launch it officially, I don't know. https://x.com/mempool/status/1659619347910803466 Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: sunsilk on December 28, 2023, 07:24:44 AM I am sometimes lucky to see a few free remaining submissions on their accelerator the last time I used it was last week but right now I tried every hour always zero free submissions. I believe someone uses bots to automatically submit unconfirmed transactions. Me too, last week I was able to see some free remaining ones. But this time, just like all of you guys I don't see some free remaining slots anymore. So as I was posting this let's see if there will be changes over time or if it's still working every hour. For everyone's reference: Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator Total Accelerated Transactions: 702101 Let us see if it's going to change or there will be added transactions from that number within the next hours after I post this. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: PX-Z on December 28, 2023, 07:39:57 AM Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator Total Accelerated Transactions: 702101 Let us see if it's going to change or there will be added transactions from that number within the next hours after I post this. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Findingnemo on December 28, 2023, 07:40:31 AM You can wait for other accelerator tool like mempool.space. When mempool.space will launch it officially, I don't know. https://x.com/mempool/status/1659619347910803466 Mempool space launched their acceleration service at least over a month as far as I know. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/28/IoWX1.png But acceleration service is always more expensive but Mempool offers it effective rate compared to Binance and viabtc but still RBF is way lot cheaper than using a paid accelerator but this isn't about paid accelerator, just the free one which is only offered by Viabtc. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: RapTarX on December 28, 2023, 08:25:36 AM I used ViaBTC free accelerator last week and it worked fine at that time although I had 2 failed attempts before a successful submission. I haven't used them in the last few days.
Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator Total Accelerated Transactions: 702101 Let us see if it's going to change or there will be added transactions from that number within the next hours after I post this. But acceleration service is always more expensive but Mempool offers it effective rate compared to Binance and viabtc but still RBF is way lot cheaper than using a paid accelerator but this isn't about paid accelerator, just the free one which is only offered by Viabtc. A paid accelerator is only useful when you need acceleration a lot of times. I don't know the fee of ViaBTC paid accelerator or mempool though. Regardless, it can still be beneficial when you have a lot of txs to accelerate. Otherwise, it's a waste of money.Edit- It seems I was wrong. I thought ViaBTC charges a subscription-based fee while it's for every tx LOL. Edit I found something weird on ViaBTC free acceleration. I was checking it and found 19 remaining hourly free tx. Out of curiosity, I tried with a pending tx from the mempool; it says submissions are beyond the limit. After a few refreshing, the remaining hourly free acceleration remains at 19 LOL. https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/28/I4uBI.png Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hosseinimr93 on December 28, 2023, 09:09:27 AM But talking about bots, so they can bypass the captcha on viabtc? Yes, they are bypassing the captcha. Bots solve ViaBTC captcha faster than humans. I found something weird on ViaBTC free acceleration. I was checking it and found 19 remaining hourly free tx. Out of curiosity, I tried with a pending tx from the mempool; it says submissions are beyond the limit. I just checked that and it's still displaying 19 remaining hourly free transactions.ViaBTC hasn't mined any block in the past 9 hours. I guess they won't accept any new transaction for free acceleration until they mine a new block and include the transactions they have received in the past 9 hours. Edit: It seems that my guess was correct. ViaBTC just mined a block and they accepted more transactions for free acceleration after that. The number of remaining hourly free transactions is now zero. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: RapTarX on December 28, 2023, 09:35:02 AM Edit: I was confused and thought it was a bug from ViaBTC LOL. I haven't thought about that. I just have checked the site and found out that there's no remaining hourly free tx. BTW, what's their criteria for not accepting new acceleration request until they find new block? Is it because they want some high fee txs to be included in the block they mine? Or just because we have block size limit? I haven't found any such criteria on their site.It seems that my guess was correct. ViaBTC just mined a block and they accepted more transactions for free acceleration after that. The number of remaining hourly free transactions is now zero. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Doan9269 on December 28, 2023, 10:35:11 AM If you have tried using viabtc accelerator to accelerate your transaction via 100 free quota per hour then it is close to impossible for the past couple of days. So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. Know this that viabtc haven't stopped using their free acceleration service yet, I don't see any official release on that, but however, you should know that we are all humanbeings, some people among us cannot be trusted in dealing with something without them abusing the privilege in it, some will make use of some twicks to byepass the average capacity to make their transaction get included, we know about som many ways that people abuse things, some don't even know how to make use of the service, the purging fee must be upto the rate acceptable before sending the transaction also. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hosseinimr93 on December 28, 2023, 10:37:36 AM BTW, what's their criteria for not accepting new acceleration request until they find new block? It seems that they stop accepting new transactions once they reach a certain size of transactions waiting to be mined freely.Of course, nothing has been mentioned on their website and I don't know the exact amount. I just know that it should happen very rarely. ViaBTC has around 10% of the total hash rate and it's estimated that they mine 1 block in every ~ 100 minutes on average. Is it because they want some high fee txs to be included in the block they mine? Or just because we have block size limit? They could accept more transactions, but it seems that they don't allocate the space of each block more than a certain amount to freely accelerated transactions.Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Helena Yu on December 28, 2023, 10:56:43 AM That's called a competition, many many many people want their transactions to be confirmed, so the one who submit the TX ID not only yourself.
I'm just hoping the other miners want to offer free accelerator service instead of picking transactions that willing to overpaid fees. Due to ordinal inscriptions, you need to be careful before create a transaction with low fees since we don't know when those people want to spam the network and make the fees suddenly went up. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Lucius on December 28, 2023, 11:50:48 AM It doesn't make much sense to rely on this accelerator because the pressure on it is huge, whether it's bots or legitimate users of which there are probably thousands considering that everyone knows that this is the only free solution. In addition, Via pool has been finding very few blocks in recent days, and this continues today with only 2 blocks so far. (https://mempool.space/mining/pool/viabtc)
Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Findingnemo on December 28, 2023, 07:45:58 PM It doesn't make much sense to rely on this accelerator because the pressure on it is huge, whether it's bots or legitimate users of which there are probably thousands considering that everyone knows that this is the only free solution. In addition, Via pool has been finding very few blocks in recent days, and this continues today with only 2 blocks so far. (https://mempool.space/mining/pool/viabtc) ViaBTC mined only 8 blocks in the last 24 hours but I doubt it has anything to do with the free acceleration. I am not relying on the accelerator and it used to take a couple of minutes at least for 100 humans to fill up the slots even when the traffic was at its high unless it was secured by bots that is the concern here. That's called a competition, many many many people want their transactions to be confirmed, so the one who submit the TX ID not only yourself. As mentioned above it takes atleast few minutes, so this isn't actually due to people submitting their transactions to be accelerated.I'm just hoping the other miners want to offer free accelerator service instead of picking transactions that willing to overpaid fees. Not really, no one like to give freebies and viabtc does it so that they can advertise their paid acceleration service to more users.Due to ordinal inscriptions, you need to be careful before create a transaction with low fees since we don't know when those people want to spam the network and make the fees suddenly went up. Using RBF is always an option to tackle the sudden spike in the fee but Viabtc has been useful for making TX with less than 500 bytes and not really in any hurry over paying $20-$40 in the fees. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: JeromeTash on December 28, 2023, 08:55:35 PM I found something weird on ViaBTC free acceleration. I was checking it and found 19 remaining hourly free tx. Out of curiosity, I tried with a pending tx from the mempool; it says submissions are beyond the limit. After a few refreshing, the remaining hourly free acceleration remains at 19 LOL. I think it's a visual bug. I think I saw the same thing probably yesterday, but it cleared off after one hourhttps://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/28/I4uBI.png As for the free transaction slots. I saw support responding to some users who were having the same concern. The support told them that the 100 slots get taken up with in 4 seconds lately, which means someone or some people are using bots. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 28, 2023, 09:09:31 PM That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. I somehow got lucky to time free slots open for acceleration the other day (3 days ago). I am able to insert my pending transaction to get accelerated. It was 48 free slots when I sent my request to accelerate, it does not take that long to have this free slots consumed. It looks like someone had built a bot to be able to claim the free slots of Viabtc since after that lucky instance, I am unable to timed the free slot of Viabtc to accelerate transactions. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 28, 2023, 09:23:18 PM I was also under the impression that they were only allowing paid accelerations but over the holiday break, when there was less activity on the network, I was able to get 2 transactions accelerated.
It seems that they stop accepting new transactions once they reach a certain size of transactions waiting to be mined freely. Of course, nothing has been mentioned on their website and I don't know the exact amount. I just know that it should happen very rarely. ViaBTC has around 10% of the total hash rate and it's estimated that they mine 1 block in every ~ 100 minutes on average. This is quite interesting. I have noticed a few times that there are slots available at completely random times when you would expect them to already be taken. I guess they sometimes pause it for a while once they've reached a certain quota and restart it when they find a new block. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: nakamura12 on December 28, 2023, 09:29:45 PM It could be possible that they created a bot to abuse their service as you have said that's why it is nearly impossible to use their free transaction accelerator. I said that it is nearly impossible since I don't know if they really stop giving free tx accelerator or all the free tx accelerator are used right away since you know that the mempool this time is congested. When I visited viabtc, I always saw it's already in 0 free submission. If it's a visual bug then I don't know the reason behind it but I haven't heard or notice about viabtc having a visual bug on their website.
Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: JeromeTash on December 28, 2023, 09:40:46 PM When I visited viabtc, I always saw it's already in 0 free submission. If it's a visual bug then I don't know the reason behind it but I haven't heard or notice about viabtc having a visual bug on their website. The visual bug was probably about the 19 free transaction acceleration slots that were displayed for almost an hour and yet when one tried to enter their TX I did, an error "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later."Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: nakamura12 on December 28, 2023, 10:02:04 PM The visual bug was probably about the 19 free transaction acceleration slots that were displayed for almost an hour and yet when one tried to enter their TX I did, an error "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later." Got it. Well, I always see 0 free submissions in viabtc so maybe it's really a visual bug when accessing viabtc at that time. As I said, I always see 0 free submission on their website and I haven't been able to use their free service since the day where the transaction fee increase a lot. Well, there are other free tx accelerator I used but I am not sure if it really works or not. I didn't read the last post that's why I am wrong but I wasn't going to say about it but I have seen the image and read some part of it and didn't read all of it because I am doing other important things.Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: sunsilk on December 28, 2023, 11:35:10 PM It will get changed because they do offer free acceleration but read what hosseinimr93 has shared. Ordinal spammers are abusing through the help of some automated tools to submit low-fee txs; there's no way we can beat automated tools LOL. It will add 100 more after an hour, but you won't see any remaining free transactions even a second after the hour changed. I observed it too for more than 2 days believing i will get a chance to accelerate my unconfirmed transaction but unfortunately, i didn't. Alright folks, I thought that it's not going to move anymore and here's the update. So from this, Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator Total Accelerated Transactions: 702101 Let us see if it's going to change or there will be added transactions from that number within the next hours after I post this. To this, @11:35PM forum time. Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator Total Accelerated Transactions 703845 I just thought that there won't be added transactions anymore but yeah, you guys are right that these ordinal spammers and bots are also taking these free acceleration. They don't want to miss anything from this market, don't they? Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Findingnemo on December 29, 2023, 06:25:39 PM Quote To this, @11:35PM forum time. Total Accelerated Transactions 703845 https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/29/Ii4vc.png The numbers are adding up every hour and especially I noticed the numbers changes at the refresh time after loading for more than usual which is when the attacks happens and fill all the spots before anyone can submit. But I don't think the number of total accelerated TXs number represents only the freely accelerated TXs, it must be sum of both paid and free. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Sandra_hakeem on December 29, 2023, 08:08:40 PM my guess was correct. I've been trying VIAbtc for the past 3 weeks and it's not working.. I think they started manipulated bots to confirm transactions just to evade the fees. I kept the consistency on an hourly intervals and it failed me throughout...ViaBTC just mined a block and they accepted more transactions for free acceleration after that. The number of remaining hourly free transactions is now zero. I just hope they've fixed up Thier captcha, or atleast increased the slot for free spins just as you said .. someone said there's actually a way out instead of accelerating it manually; how's that done though?? Running an RBF? that's the only thing I'm thinking of RN... Sandra 🧑🦰 Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: JeromeTash on December 29, 2023, 09:21:41 PM I haven't been able to use their free service since the day where the transaction fee increase a lot. Someone is probably abusing their free service by using a bot, since their captcha challenge is so easy. Well, there are other free tx accelerator I used but I am not sure if it really works or not. I hope you are not referring to transaction rebroadcasting services masquerading as transactions accelerators. They are so many of them. The only working free transaction accelerator that I know at the moment is probably ViaBTC.Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 29, 2023, 09:48:17 PM Or maybe viaBTC is pushing for their paid and premium services right now?
Because I also can't get any free submissions as it is always full no matter what the time is or wait till :59 and put your transaction ID. Or just like what the rest of you guys think, it's not a haven of bot as well, taking advantage of the free services. Last time that I got mine is like around December 20k'ish and after that, no more free slots. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: JeromeTash on December 29, 2023, 10:04:35 PM Or maybe viaBTC is pushing for their paid and premium services right now? No They are notJust look for any block mined by ViaBTC and count the number of transactions below the recommended fee rate if you have some time. You will notice they are slightly over 100 Here is their latest mined block, slightly over an hour ago - https://mempool.space/block/00000000000000000002beabfdd166d33179b9c526d876488e0e6199632b54bd Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: adaseb on December 29, 2023, 10:26:48 PM Yeah i've been trying for the last 2 days. For the past month, it was always possible to get a transaction in. However now, everytime I try, in a split second its over the limit.
I tried everything, including clicking the submit captcha button 1 second before the new hour starts. Tried 5 seconds prior and after and same error. Anyone know if you need to submit the Transaction ID after the start of the new hour and solve the captha? or can you submit the transaction ID before the start of the hour and click the Captcha solved Submit button after the new hour starts? Everything I tried hasnt worked. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Antotena on December 29, 2023, 10:45:40 PM If you have tried using viabtc accelerator to accelerate your transaction via 100 free quota per hour then it is close to impossible for the past couple of days. So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. I think they still do. If you are seeing this post notification, between now and the next 1 hour. The website usually experience low traffic as compared to in the afternoon, even before these ordinals took over the platform with bots, I don't know why but often I don't get chance in their free service until midnight like this. Give it a try between 11:00 pm forum time or 11:59 pm forum time. Just put eye on the seconds of your time and as soon as it start, paste your transaction withing the first 30 seconds, it should go through. But what is the solution for this Ordinals? Are we going to continue to compete with these guys, they literally the reason why Viabtc service has increased, imagine where in the world only 100 transaction are allow for free transaction boost, I think this guys should be allow to used BSC or ERC to spam because I'm not sure if this is madness or adoption, the dream of pair to pair network is dying before our eyes. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: adaseb on December 29, 2023, 11:12:33 PM If you have tried using viabtc accelerator to accelerate your transaction via 100 free quota per hour then it is close to impossible for the past couple of days. So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. I think they still do. If you are seeing this post notification, between now and the next 1 hour. The website usually experience low traffic as compared to in the afternoon, even before these ordinals took over the platform with bots, I don't know why but often I don't get chance in their free service until midnight like this. Give it a try between 11:00 pm forum time or 11:59 pm forum time. Just put eye on the seconds of your time and as soon as it start, paste your transaction withing the first 30 seconds, it should go through. But what is the solution for this Ordinals? Are we going to continue to compete with these guys, they literally the reason why Viabtc service has increased, imagine where in the world only 100 transaction are allow for free transaction boost, I think this guys should be allow to used BSC or ERC to spam because I'm not sure if this is madness or adoption, the dream of pair to pair network is dying before our eyes. It will not work trust me. I have tried and timing it to the exact second and its always filled up. And you don't need to wait until midnight, its every hour. Normally at the beginning of the hour, there would be 100 slots which open up, and slowly they would go down as people submitted their TX ID. However right now as soon as the clock hits top of the hour, immediately 100 slots are all filled up. Getting tired of all this Ordinal stuff. Basically need to spend $10-15 just to get an 1 input and 1 output transaction to confirm at the moment. With this ViaBTC it only cost $1. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: RapTarX on December 30, 2023, 08:44:48 AM When I visited viabtc, I always saw it's already in 0 free submission. If it's a visual bug then I don't know the reason behind it but I haven't heard or notice about viabtc having a visual bug on their website. The visual bug was probably about the 19 free transaction acceleration slots that were displayed for almost an hour and yet when one tried to enter their TX I did, an error "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later."Or maybe viaBTC is pushing for their paid and premium services right now? LOL. I guess it's unlikely that they are trying to manipulate this. Looking at the paid accelerator fees, I doubt anyone thinking of paying a low fee, would be using such a paid service & they know that as well. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Gladitorcomeback on December 30, 2023, 10:36:04 AM They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely. The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. If you check the last blocks mined by ViaBTC, you will see that they have included many low fee transactions. Oh, This is not good at all. I tried also Viabtc some days ago for acceleration of my transaction but I got error "" submission is beyond limit "" Then I tried to check after hour complete as only 100 acceleration limit but I got same message. Their paid service is expensive and I have to pay 200$ for accelerating 240$ value. Viabtc is the only best platform providing free accelarator service? I get so many sites but nothing happened after successfully acceleration done. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hosseinimr93 on December 30, 2023, 11:40:21 AM Their paid service is expensive and I have to pay 200$ for accelerating 240$ value. It may worth mentioning that the fee they charge you for accelerating your transaction doesn't depend on the amount of bitcoin you send. Viabtc is the only best platform providing free accelarator service? I get so many sites but nothing happened after successfully acceleration done. ViaBTC was the only working free accelerator until bots made it useless. All other websites that claim to accelerate transactions freely, are either scammers or just rebroadcast transactions. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on December 30, 2023, 12:59:24 PM Thanks for making this thread and the explanations! I was wondering yesterday what is going on at the site where you submit the free acceleration. Thought maybe there is an error or something or because of the increasing mempool the spots are gone within seconds. Well too bad the option is getting basically abused now, I used it several times in the past and it bailed me out of serious being stuck situations. Are there any other sites like this one? Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Charmekkd on December 30, 2023, 01:03:31 PM It would also make sense if someone created a bot and took advantage of this situation for profit. Because the last few days from morning to evening I was waiting for 100 entries on viabtc, but strangely I didn't see a single entry that I could use. Even though at that time I always checked every hour. But in the end I still didn't get 1 accelerator quota.
There are several possibilities for all this to happen. The first possibility is that viabtc has stopped the service temporarily. The second possibility is that there are people who create bots and use up the accelerator quota. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Antotena on December 30, 2023, 06:23:57 PM It would also make sense if someone created a bot and took advantage of this situation for profit. Because the last few days from morning to evening I was waiting for 100 entries on viabtc, but strangely I didn't see a single entry that I could use. Even though at that time I always checked every hour. But in the end I still didn't get 1 accelerator quota. How do you intend to do this, I think only a programmer will understand this better but what about the speed. I'm not a prhrmmer but if this guys take the chance in less than a second, your bots should be really super fast like speed of light to stay ahead of this bad guys. To say that they don't even need this like small people does but they spoil opportunity for the less privileged users because I don't know how anyone like us with $10 worth of bitcoin in a wallet to spend but the fee is 2 times.the amount I have on my wallet, it doesn't make sense. When they know they want ordinals and want high profits, they should be ready to spend anything on the fees and not disrupt the free accelerator we have been managing for a while. Quote There are several possibilities for all this to happen. The first possibility is that viabtc has stopped the service temporarily. The second possibility is that there are people who create bots and use up the accelerator quota. It was confirmed on this thread 2 days ago that they still function but it seems the ordinals lovers has decided to hijack it now and the common people don't get the opportunity again. If it's now abuse, I think it's high time they stop the service for now and let everyone rest. It's good to know that the service is down than it's been abuse by some bad groups. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: JeromeTash on December 30, 2023, 09:15:44 PM Did you read hosseinimr93's explanation above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479485.msg63401306#msg63401306)? It's not a visual bug; they have a limitation as explained by hosseinimr93. They don't want to fill the whole block with a very low fee while they can get far better fee from the block mined. I know what I am talking about because the very next hour even before viaBTC mined any block, the 19 free transactions that were even no existent disappeared ::)I kept following and refreshing the page every few minutes at that time when this happened Of course, I read every explanation before adding in mine. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: adaseb on December 31, 2023, 01:07:15 AM It works again. Just got a transaction in. 5 minutes after the hour and there are still 60 spots left or so.
So if you need to get some urgent transaction in then do so now before the bots return. There is a good chance the bots are taking a day off for New Years and will be back at it in a few hours. Either that or the admin somehow banned these Ordinal transactions from spamming their TX accelerator. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Findingnemo on December 31, 2023, 11:27:03 AM It works again. Just got a transaction in. 5 minutes after the hour and there are still 60 spots left or so. So if you need to get some urgent transaction in then do so now before the bots return. There is a good chance the bots are taking a day off for New Years and will be back at it in a few hours. Either that or the admin somehow banned these Ordinal transactions from spamming their TX accelerator. Well, that's good news and probably ViaBTC stopped them temporarily I guess but as of now there are no free spots but its been 20 minutes since the refresh time so I guess I will confirm about the available spots if it's still there in the next set. Also, Viabtc pool's number of mined blocks in 24hr increased now compared to the past few days. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/31/IWtKZ.png Edit: Yep, there are indeed spots to fill now. 39 spots after 12:01 so the time window to submit your acceleration is just 90 seconds to 120 seconds from refresh time. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/31/IWyfl.png Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Adbitco on December 31, 2023, 11:56:01 AM hosseinimr93 Is absolutely correct because few days ago i tried making withdrawal and after which i opened viabtc to submit my txt id to accelerate it but i waited for over 24hrs without me having any even single space to submit my id to join the next 100 free acceleration, I also sensed that there is a compromise somewhere because earlier last week i used the service successfully and it confirmed within the next 4 hrs with actually a low fee. But I am shocked to see that they are spamming it with their bots even as capchta was included and how come those bots passes verification.
Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Coyster on December 31, 2023, 01:13:33 PM It works again. Just got a transaction in. 5 minutes after the hour and there are still 60 spots left or so. Maybe those using bots are enjoying the holidays. ;D It is good that people can use viabtc free accelerator again (at least for now), i don't know how long this "break" will last, and it is possible that in the next few hours they'll be back again and all the spots will be filled so quickly.Either that or the admin somehow banned these Ordinal transactions from spamming their TX accelerator. I don't think viabtc will ban anybody from using their transaction accelerator, even if they are ordinal spammers, they might change the captcha pattern to make it difficult for bots, but apparently they have not done that. Thus i guess the spammers are taking a break.Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 01, 2024, 02:14:51 AM This is something new I hadn't seen before. At the beginning of the hour I tried to submit a transaction but when I clicked the confirmation button there was a bit of a delay followed by an error message of "timeout of 10000ms exceeded".
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/01/I0C5W.png Perhaps due to so many requests happening at the same time it triggers a rate limit that causes submissions to fail. Refreshing the site a few minutes later showed that a few slots were still available. It might be just a matter of time before the bots adapt to this but in the meantime there are brief periods where it is possible for actual humans to use the service. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Kelward on January 01, 2024, 08:05:34 AM They are still accelerating 100 transactions per hour freely. It's quite unfair for them to employ bots to dominate everyone else. I was beginning to believe that Viabtc had discontinued their free transaction service. The last time I attempted to use their accelerator, all the available slots seemed occupied. Within just over an hour, the 100 free accelerations were already claimed, which was unexpected. I had to wait for another hour, but I stayed vigilant and managed to secure a spot. Dealing with these tactics has become exhausting, especially considering how the ordinals disrupted the mempool.The problem is that ordinal scammers are abusing ViaBTC free accelerator with their bots and don't allow humans to submit their transactions. The problem is how ViaBTC free accelerator is being abused by bots. 294 out of 302 transactions are related to ordinals. They are all 1 input - 1 output transactions paying 23 sat/vbyte. Most of us thought the same that viaBTC had stopped their free transactions services, thanks to Hosseinimr93, for giving the clarification that they've not stopped but that it's been abused by ordinal scammers, and you that testified that you were lucky to have been vigilant and was able to secure one spot. The question now is since the free services is still ongoing but the system is now hijacked, what is the next step? We sit back and wait till they've had their fill or till congestion normalizes and we go back to doing transactions with normal fees? Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: LoyceV on January 01, 2024, 10:06:26 AM They have FREE submissions available again (70 left after 5 minutes), but now it tells me "Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist" on the FREE service. The Paid service recognizes my transaction. It fits the size and fee requirements.
Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Findingnemo on January 01, 2024, 02:42:48 PM They have FREE submissions available again (70 left after 5 minutes), but now it tells me "Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist" on the FREE service. The Paid service recognizes my transaction. It fits the size and fee requirements. I picked a random TX from mempool.space and submitted it successfully via free acceleration. 20 spots left even after 40 minutes is something never happened in a long time, probably they adjusted their requirements to scrutinize the spam TXs from abusing free acceleration. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: Lucius on January 01, 2024, 02:59:19 PM ~snip~ Same thing with me, I selected one random transaction and it was successfully accelerated. It seems that many had a rough start to the new year and are still sleeping, so the number of 100 available accelerations is available almost throughout the hour. I don't know why @LoyceV gets a message that his TXID doesn't exist, maybe because mempool currently purging transactions < 23.1 sat/vB and free services don't accept them for that reason. If he increased the fee to 25 sat/vB, maybe then he would succeed. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 01, 2024, 03:02:04 PM I tried again (5 hours later), and it works :) Fees are also dropping a bit (but still high).
Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 01, 2024, 03:18:03 PM I picked a random TX from mempool.space and submitted it successfully via free acceleration. 20 spots left even after 40 minutes is something never happened in a long time, probably they adjusted their requirements to scrutinize the spam TXs from abusing free acceleration. I did the same and was able to submit a transaction to their free accelerator successfully. I even submitted an ordinal transaction with the same pattern as ordinal transactions submitted by the bots in the past days and it worked. (I am sorry I helped a network spammer) I don't know whether bots stopped abusing ViaBTC free accelerator or it's ViaBTC that stopped them somehow, but the requirements seem to be still same as before. Title: Re: ViaBTC offers no more free TX acceleration? Post by: sokani on January 01, 2024, 03:29:00 PM This is something new I hadn't seen before. At the beginning of the hour I tried to submit a transaction but when I clicked the confirmation button there was a bit of a delay followed by an error message of "timeout of 10000ms exceeded". https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/01/I0C5W.png That's was how mine came out the first time I submitted it, after a second submission it displayed transaction accelerating and got confirmed. I had a transaction that had been stocked in the mempool for 6 days, I've bumped it but the fee wasn't enough to get it picked by a miner. Yesterday, I just felt like giving ViaBTC free accelerator a try after many previous attempts proved abortive and my transaction got accepted and added to a block. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Mpamaegbu on January 02, 2024, 05:39:45 AM So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. Even when they assumedly offered it, I think it took a great deal of time for pool to pick it up. I've said it times without number that this congestion thing is going to be the bane of Bitcoin if it's not speedily dealt with. The current backlog has lingered beyond anyone's endurance level.Quote That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? If they haven't blocked loopholes that could expose their vulnerability, then they should be blamed for exposing themselves. We know hackers/scammers get more creative when their point of interest becomes lucrative. Bitcoin is getting more attention. Everything that revolves around it is also picking up that attention.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 02, 2024, 08:17:19 AM I've said it times without number that this congestion thing is going to be the bane of Bitcoin if it's not speedily dealt with. The current backlog has lingered beyond anyone's endurance level. I felt the same way back in 2017. Bitcoin can't grow without growing transaction numbers, and transaction numbers can't grow because the blockchain can't handle more.Growing in value is one thing, but adoption needs transactions. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 02, 2024, 01:23:57 PM Bots are again abusing ViaBTC free accelerator.
In the last block mined by ViaBTC (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?s=fee_per_kwu(asc)&q=block_id(823998)#f=hash,block_id,input_count,output_count,time,output_total,output_total_usd,fee_usd,fee_per_kwu,fee_per_kwu_usd), the minimum required fee rate for getting confirmation normally was more than 80 sat/vbyte. ViaBTC included 165 one input - one output ordinal transactions that paid 23-24 sat/vbyte each. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: NotATether on January 02, 2024, 01:36:53 PM Bots are again abusing ViaBTC free accelerator. In the last block mined by ViaBTC (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?s=fee_per_kwu(asc)&q=block_id(823998)#f=hash,block_id,input_count,output_count,time,output_total,output_total_usd,fee_usd,fee_per_kwu,fee_per_kwu_usd), the minimum required fee rate for getting confirmation normally was more than 80 sat/vbyte. ViaBTC included 165 one input - one output ordinal transactions that paid 23-24 sat/vbyte each. When people realize that Ordinals are just pieces of hot garbage and stop trading them, the bot activity is going to stop. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 02, 2024, 01:42:14 PM When people realize that Ordinals are just pieces of hot garbage and stop trading them, the bot activity is going to stop. They'll just come up with the next money grabbing scheme. And what's a better money grabber than using Bitcoin's name instead of some shitcoin?Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 02, 2024, 03:16:16 PM Bots are again abusing ViaBTC free accelerator. In the last block mined by ViaBTC (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transactions?s=fee_per_kwu(asc)&q=block_id(823998)#f=hash,block_id,input_count,output_count,time,output_total,output_total_usd,fee_usd,fee_per_kwu,fee_per_kwu_usd), the minimum required fee rate for getting confirmation normally was more than 80 sat/vbyte. ViaBTC included 165 one input - one output ordinal transactions that paid 23-24 sat/vbyte each. There are free spots or at least they were available last hour. Managed to push one tx for somebody then as I saw still 24 spots I said what the hell, accelerate my own, too bad Viabtc is using a small node, so my tx which shows on all major node was pruned from theirs! Now you don't have to just : - be at the right time of 00 - make sure your tx is under 0.5kb and over 10sat/b no /vb - beat some bots or pray they are not active exactly that hour - pray that Viabtc has found few blocks that day so you're not looking at a no spot hour You know have to also beat the pruning fee for 300MB nodes! Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 02, 2024, 07:15:53 PM You know have to also beat the pruning fee for 300MB nodes! I tried to find out how low the fee rate can be, so that it doesn't give the error saying "Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist".The current purging fee rate for any node with default mempool size is around 20 sat/vbyte. I tried to submit a transaction with the fee rate of 15 sat/vbyte and 15 sat/byte to seed if it works. ViaBTC gave me an error saying "Sorry, your TXID doesn't exist". Then I submitted a transaction with the fee rate 12 sat/vbyte and 12 sat/byte and it worked. It's weird. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 04, 2024, 08:32:05 AM Allow me to quote myself here:
I noticed something peculiar (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,1w,weight): https://loyce.club/other/johoe16.png Only the "light green" area is growing. I'm pretty sure most of those are Ordinal spammers like this one (https://mempool.space/address/bc1qw2acyf9x2gtnxlydwf3e4rgw9fxgaxnm2jr4mu), paying 23 sat/vbyte and abusing ViaBTC's free transaction accelerator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5479485.msg63398633#msg63398633) with a bot to get their spam confirmed. The good news is: it looks like Ordinal spammers are no longer willing to pay the highest transaction fees. At least that's something. The bad news is: somehow they're still earning money from spamming their scam with millions of transactions. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: zazarb on January 04, 2024, 11:15:24 PM Seems viabtc changed order of entering captcha, allowing do it only after start new hours. Earlier was possible to do this in advance.
Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 04, 2024, 11:50:29 PM Seems viabtc changed order of entering captcha, allowing do it only after start new hours. Earlier was possible to do this in advance. And they decreased the number of hourly free transactions to 20.Quote from: viabtc.com By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. Edit: I visited ViaBTC accelerator at 00:00 (UTC) and there was no remaining hourly free transaction. I refreshed the page and after the second refresh, I got the following message from cloudflare. Quote The owner of this website (www.viabtc.com) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on January 05, 2024, 05:25:18 AM Seems viabtc changed order of entering captcha, allowing do it only after start new hours. Earlier was possible to do this in advance. And they decreased the number of hourly free transactions to 20.Quote from: viabtc.com By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. Edit: I visited ViaBTC accelerator at 00:00 (UTC) and there was no remaining hourly free transaction. I refreshed the page and after the second refresh, I got the following message from cloudflare. Quote The owner of this website (www.viabtc.com) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website. Sad to see they had to take this step. Well, another good thing that got messed up by greedy people using bots and so on. I really liked this site and it bailed me out several times, I guess now it's a s good as impossible to catch the free accelerations anymore. It was already hard after the recent developments but now with a decrease to 20 it's even harder. The guys messing this up just to safe some $ are some real life greedy clowns. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 05, 2024, 07:39:46 AM I refreshed the page and after the second refresh, I got the following message from cloudflare. I've seen that too, it only took a few refreshes. But somehow it's not stopping the bots.Quote The owner of this website (www.viabtc.com) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website. For now, it looks like (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight) the spammers all go for 23 sat/vbyte, and anything above 30 sat/vbyte has a reasonsable chance to get confirmed. Anything under 23 sat/vbyte is futile, and will very soon be low enough to be dropped out of (most) mempools. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Seinlocko on January 05, 2024, 02:12:28 PM .... Most likely someone created a bot and used up the entire existing accelerator quota. I think that reason is the most reasonable. Because the existing quota runs out very quickly. So it's impossible for ordinary people (not bots) to use up the accelerator quota in just 5 seconds. Therefore, I also have confidence that it was all caused by a bot designed by someone.That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Findingnemo on January 05, 2024, 06:54:46 PM And they decreased the number of hourly free transactions to 20. Quote from: viabtc.com By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. That's new and pretty bad, so I guess the platform failed to stop whoever is abusing their service now reduced the slots and hoping that would put an end. Yeah, maybe this will be the end of the free transaction accelerator. :) Few more minutes for the refresh time and I would like to see the changes really made a difference... Edit: 20 spots filled in the next second so yeah this the end. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: adaseb on January 05, 2024, 11:17:08 PM Didn't even realize its down to 20 spots, I would refresh at the start of the hour and the total accelerated count would go up by 20-30 transactions and the free spots would be zero. Tried a few times and the same result.
With 100 spots I guess we had a chance but with only 20, I guess its pretty much not even worth trying. Any other free transaction accelerator anywhere? Seems like most are scams. With the ETF most likely approved next week, we will be forced to pay 200 sat/byte in fees. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 06, 2024, 09:54:16 AM With the ETF most likely approved next week, we will be forced to pay 200 sat/byte in fees. ETF-users don't need on-chain transactions. The change in spammer-strategy is still visible (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight): anything above 30 sat/vbyte can now get confirmed. It looks like the Ordinal spammers are no longer trying to compete for the highest fees, but they've set a minimum fee now.Judging by the fact that this changed suddenly, it looks like there's only one person (or one group of people) behind all Ordinal spam! Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Findingnemo on January 06, 2024, 04:03:17 PM Judging by the fact that this changed suddenly, it looks like there's only one person (or one group of people) behind all Ordinal spam! Most likely, they kept pushing these spam tokens really hard so that people would really think it has a future to grow further and then suddenly pulled the plug?The price of ORDI is on the decline for the last few days and now whoever is holding those tokens are the people now spending a sensible amount as a fee. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Ever-young on January 06, 2024, 07:57:21 PM That's new and pretty bad, so I guess the platform failed to stop whoever is abusing their service now reduced the slots and hoping that would put an end. Yeah, maybe this will be the end of the free transaction accelerator. :) I don’t think that was added newly as I have seen it multiple time when ever I try to refresh the page real quick and try to get a free slot, back then I don’t even need to pass the captcha I just need to be refreshing within that little time limit to make sure I see when they will open the free slot but just after 3 refresh and above I always beg that warning which after some times they get it off.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: adaseb on January 06, 2024, 10:12:14 PM With the ETF most likely approved next week, we will be forced to pay 200 sat/byte in fees. ETF-users don't need on-chain transactions. The change in spammer-strategy is still visible (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight): anything above 30 sat/vbyte can now get confirmed. It looks like the Ordinal spammers are no longer trying to compete for the highest fees, but they've set a minimum fee now.Judging by the fact that this changed suddenly, it looks like there's only one person (or one group of people) behind all Ordinal spam! This might sound like a complete noob question but why is the other chart showing the sat/btye sitting at 40 sat/byte while the weight is sitting at 30 sat/vbyte. I always looked at the sat/byte when choosing a manual fee. Do I just look at sat/vbyte for now? From my segwit and non segwit transactions, the fees seems exactly the same when you take the fee and divide it by the total amount of bytes. Never understood this. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 06, 2024, 10:46:43 PM This might sound like a complete noob question but why is the other chart showing the sat/btye sitting at 40 sat/byte while the weight is sitting at 30 sat/vbyte. I don't get this.What do you mean by the other chart and where did you get the 40 sat/byte? I always looked at the sat/byte when choosing a manual fee. Do I just look at sat/vbyte for now? Miners prioritize transactions based on the fee paid for each virtual byte of data and therefore what matters is the fee rate in sat/vbyte.From my segwit and non segwit transactions, the fees seems exactly the same when you take the fee and divide it by the total amount of bytes. Never understood this. By doing so, you calculate the fee rate in sat/byte.As I said what matters is the fee rate in sat/vbyte. For calculating that, you should divide the fee by virtual size of the transaction. It may worth mentioning that virtual size of a transaction (in vbytes) is equal to number of weight units divided by 4. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: adaseb on January 07, 2024, 05:46:38 AM How do I find out the virtual size or the weight of the transaction? In my electrum client it doesn’t show it, even in the block explorer it doesn’t show the virtual size or weight of the transaction?
For years I always took the size in bytes and looked at the mempool and used the sat/byte fees to calculate an optimal fee. Didn’t realize i was suppose to look at the virtual size chart instead. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: hosseinimr93 on January 07, 2024, 07:03:49 AM How do I find out the virtual size or the weight of the transaction? In my electrum client it doesn’t show it, even in the block explorer it doesn’t show the virtual size or weight of the transaction? The number displayed by electrum as fee rate is in sat/vbyte, although electrum is still showing that in sat/byte. The size displayed by electrum is also in vbytes, not bytes. All bitcoin explorers I know display the virtual size of the transactions or their weight. Even some explorers show both of them. Here is a transaction on blockchair.com. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/07/sIsqm.jpeg The fee rate is 247 sat/vbyte and the weight is 449. The virtual size of the transaction is 449/4 = 112 vbytes. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Arenga pinnata on January 07, 2024, 07:17:17 AM Edit: Now the slots are visible sand available for humans to use. If you want then make use of it. In recent days even if I try to be the fastest in using ViaBTC I still can't. Has ViaBTC really stopped their temporary acceleration?If you have tried using viabtc accelerator to accelerate your transaction via 100 free quota per hour then it is close to impossible for the past couple of days. So I thought they stopped offering free TX acceleration at first but I couldn't find anywhere that they stopped offering free TX acceleration. That led me to think what if someone built a bot to abuse their service? or what else it could be? That is why no one can see the numbers at the refreshing time and it always says the limit is exceeded, and also I would like to know if anyone successfully submitted it in the last two days. How to check blocks mined by ViaBTC? I want to check if they are still taking 100 low fee transactions every hour. Luckily in recent days costs have dropped slightly. Yesterday the costs stayed between 40 - 60 Sats/vbyte. And this morning it was in the range of 35 - 40 Sats/vbyte so it is still possible for me to make transactions with that fee. But now costs are starting to climb back up from the 66 - 110sats/vbyte range. I think these costs will probably become normal costs eventually. The scariest thing is when the costs are above 200sats. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: God bless u on January 07, 2024, 07:33:43 AM Seems viabtc changed order of entering captcha, allowing do it only after start new hours. Earlier was possible to do this in advance. And they decreased the number of hourly free transactions to 20.Quote from: viabtc.com By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. Edit: I visited ViaBTC accelerator at 00:00 (UTC) and there was no remaining hourly free transaction. I refreshed the page and after the second refresh, I got the following message from cloudflare. Quote The owner of this website (www.viabtc.com) has banned you temporarily from accessing this website. they've probably added that as an effort to exclude as many Oridinal bots as possible. but these scammers will always find their way. they probably decreased free transactions for the same reason too. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Potato Chips on January 07, 2024, 08:56:11 PM I visited ViaBTC accelerator at 00:00 (UTC) and there was no remaining hourly free transaction. Tried to push a tx for three hourly resets and same thing happened lol. I also had my watch on my side so pretty sure I hit at 00:00 or 00:01. Interesting thing was, I wasn't even asked to do a captcha... really starting to think that they are temporarily freezing the free slot reset at some times. Good thing the fees aren't as bad as before. EDIT: last try at another 00:00, same scenario, quota has ran out, no captcha was asked In recent days even if I try to be the fastest in using ViaBTC I still can't. Has ViaBTC really stopped their temporary acceleration? How to check blocks mined by ViaBTC? I want to check if they are still taking 100 low fee transactions every hour. The free tx acceleration is still ongoing, I believe. I had a successful attempt couple days as well but there are some stuff going on that makes it harder to submit a tx e.g. we believe that bots were abusing the free slots hence they get taken fast. For your 2nd question, most block explorers should do e.g. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/blocks?q=guessed_miner(ViaBTC) or https://mempool.space/mining/pool/viabtc Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Coyster on January 07, 2024, 10:35:26 PM Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. Bad news, the chances of using viabtc free accelerator right now is slim to none, 100 slots were filled by bots in a wink, now with 20 slots normal humans stand no chance of successfully submitting their transaction ID's. I reckon it is only a matter of time before they offer zero free accelerations, and for one to use their accelerator, you'd have to use the paid service. So many of their blocks contain accelerated transactions that are not paying a high fee in a period when fees are high; and this could be the reason why they have reduced the free slot to 20.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on January 07, 2024, 11:19:33 PM Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. Bad news, the chances of using viabtc free accelerator right now is slim to none, 100 slots were filled by bots in a wink, now with 20 slots normal humans stand no chance of successfully submitting their transaction ID's. I reckon it is only a matter of time before they offer zero free accelerations, and for one to use their accelerator, you'd have to use the paid service. So many of their blocks contain accelerated transactions that are not paying a high fee in a period when fees are high; and this could be the reason why they have reduced the free slot to 20.Actually Viabtc is really hard to successfully accelerate transactions now with this development of only 20 slots like how fast can you be in the next hour to be able to accelerate your transaction for quicker confirmation. Honestly, this is so sad as I wanted to accelerate my transactions Viabtc this evening and I monitored the time so closely but yet I couldn't meet up. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Marvelman on January 07, 2024, 11:27:39 PM Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. That's really bad news. I used their free accelerator service on several occasions in the past. I wonder what prompted them to make such a move? If bots are the problem, why not take some action against them? Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Coyster on January 08, 2024, 07:26:08 AM Honestly, this is so sad as I wanted to accelerate my transactions Viabtc this evening and I monitored the time so closely but yet I couldn't meet up. Viabtc might no longer be an option, and if your transaction is opted to RBF, you prolly should use it and replace your initial transaction with a new one, but this time check the mempool and use a good fee rate. Transaction fees have somewhat dropped, at least it is not as high as it was in previous weeks, so it is better to take this advantage, than waiting, only to see it rise so high again.If bots are the problem, why not take some action against them? I don't think the bots are the problem, viabtc prolly wants to reduce the number of transactions they include in their block that pays a low fee rate, especially now that fee rate is high, and with all the backlog they've had in a couple of weeks, i guess it became too much.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Arenga pinnata on January 08, 2024, 07:39:41 AM In recent days even if I try to be the fastest in using ViaBTC I still can't. Has ViaBTC really stopped their temporary acceleration? How to check blocks mined by ViaBTC? I want to check if they are still taking 100 low fee transactions every hour. The free tx acceleration is still ongoing, I believe. I had a successful attempt couple days as well but there are some stuff going on that makes it harder to submit a tx e.g. we believe that bots were abusing the free slots hence they get taken fast. For your 2nd question, most block explorers should do e.g. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/blocks?q=guessed_miner(ViaBTC) or https://mempool.space/mining/pool/viabtc Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. When I wrote this the fees were still stable for quite a long time in the range of 35 to 40 sats/vB. I think it will be difficult for fees to fall further than this. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 08, 2024, 08:41:46 AM If bots are the problem, why not take some action against them? It may be impossible. Captcha solving services charge a fraction of a cent per captcha. Even if the bot can't solve it, a click farm can, and considering the Ordinal spammers have the budget to pay $40 in fees per transaction, they won't have any problem paying a click farm.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 09, 2024, 09:26:17 AM Viabtc has also reduced the free slots to 20 -- this will tighen the competition even more, rip. That's really bad news. I used their free accelerator service on several occasions in the past.Quote from: https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ By the order of submission, ViaBTC supports 20 FREE acceleration chances per hour. I wonder what prompted them to make such a move? If bots are the problem, why not take some action against them? Money! Viabtc is an open pool, unlike foundry which is closed and basically the same guys that own the farms are running the pool to, so it needs miners to see an incentive to mine there, and if : -you're dropping transactions for lower paying ones -you're using some of the blockspace for accelerated transaction with fees that you don't share with miners some might start moving away or not be that happy about it. Btc.com just got sold for 5 million while incurring a 2 million loss on operation, I'm sure Viabtc stated to do a bit more math behind free stuff! Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: FinneysTrueVision on January 15, 2024, 05:11:40 AM Tonight I was able to submit a transaction I had pending for almost a week while there was still a few slots left, but unfortunately I got a message saying 'captcha not right'. I had already solved the captcha correctly so I am not sure why I got that error. I tried to resubmit my transaction while it was showing 7 slots remaining but I was too slow and those spots were gone by the time I clicked the button to submit it.
Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 25, 2024, 12:23:52 PM How times change, it's :04 and still
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/25/kFwIj.png I assume that's probably because the fee has dropped to 24 and for ViaBTC to work you still need ~20sat/vb so it makes little sense to not pay directly 5 satoshi extra rather than trying your luck every hour, plus that you can't accelerate really big ones where 3-5 sat/vb would make a difference. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 25, 2024, 02:18:41 PM I assume that's probably because the fee has dropped to 24 and for ViaBTC to work you still need ~20sat/vb so it makes little sense Even worse, according to mempoo.space 23.2 sat/vbyte is the purging limit. Take a look at Johoe's graph (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight): it looks like the 300 MB mempool is almost completely filled with 23 sat/vbyte transactions, and if you zoom out (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,30d,weight) a bit, you'll see most of them are most likely all created by Ordinal spammers. So you can choose: pay a bit above 23.2 sat/vbyte, or wait weeks.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 26, 2024, 12:16:21 PM Even worse, according to mempoo.space 23.2 sat/vbyte is the purging limit. Take a look at Johoe's graph (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,24h,weight): it looks like the 300 MB mempool is almost completely filled with 23 sat/vbyte transactions, and if you zoom out (https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,30d,weight) a bit, you'll see most of them are most likely all created by Ordinal spammers. So you can choose: pay a bit above 23.2 sat/vbyte, or wait weeks. Well, give Okex and Binance a bit of credit too ;D https://blockstream.info/address/16r7U7GqbVPeKukgfd3mUN9LCkuoKbfpXM Quote UNCONFIRMED TX COUNT 7620 https://blockstream.info/address/bc1qm34lsc65zpw79lxes69zkqmk6ee3ewf0j77s3hQuote UNCONFIRMED TX COUNT 2179 This block might look suspicious: https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/26/kszkJ.png But it's actually full of consolidation from okex, the address above, all tx labeled : Anyhow, if there is no other hype starting, the weekend is going to make mincemeat out of this, I'm always looking at the 10sat/vb and this is now down to 329vMB from almost 400 a week ago. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 26, 2024, 01:10:22 PM Anyhow, if there is no other hype starting, the weekend is going to make mincemeat out of this, I'm always looking at the 10sat/vb and this is now down to 329vMB from almost 400 a week ago. So that's -71 vMB in a week? That's the problem indeed: even without new Ordinal spam, the backlog takes forever to clear. Based on your date it'll be a month to start confirming 10 sat/vbyte. We'd need a monthly 1 GB block to clear mempool.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 26, 2024, 02:48:52 PM So that's -71 vMB in a week? That's the problem indeed: even without new Ordinal spam, the backlog takes forever to clear. Based on your date it'll be a month to start confirming 10 sat/vbyte. Statistics, lies, manipulation..deceivement ;D It depends on the timeline you chose, I've set it for example for 7 days, but you could also cut it from January 22dn when it was at 411vMb so that would be 80vMB in 4 days and those were week days which would then mean less than 16 days till target. But also, the difficulty adjustment happened on Saturday and since then we're at a Quote Current Pace: 106.3109% (921 / 866.33 expected, 54.67 ahead) so without these extra which would be erased in two week in the new adjustment we would be at only around 16vMB cleared naturally without fastest blocks in 7 days, so 20 weeks? ;DWe'd need a monthly 1 GB block to clear mempool. We have a big blocker here, bring the pitchforks!!!!!!!! ::) Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 26, 2024, 04:00:32 PM We have a big blocker here, bring the pitchforks!!!!!!!! ::) I already store many gigabytes of Ordinal spam in my copy of the blockchain :(I think I said it in 2017 already: I don't care how Bitcoin scales, as long as it scales. Bitcoin is almost twice as old now, and we're still looking at the same problem: the blockchain can't handle more data. Makes you wonder what would have happened if blocks were a lot bigger: at very low fees, the Ordinal spammers could have filled hundreds of megabytes per blocks for the price they paid in some months. As a rough estimate, given big enough blocks they could have doubled the current blockchain size just by spamming in the past year. So big blocks aren't really a solution either, although at least it would keep transaction fees low for the rest of us. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: stompix on January 30, 2024, 11:41:41 PM I'm always looking at the 10sat/vb and this is now down to 329vMB from almost 400 a week ago So that's -71 vMB in a week? That's the problem indeed: even without new Ordinal spam, the backlog takes forever to clear. ~ Revisiting this since despite the weekend the 10sat/b wall has gone up to 348vMB, so as I was saying, statistics, they cna come and bite you in the ass as soon as you let your mouth babble about.......and with that and sporadic spikes of over 35sat/b people might stilt take a chance on ViaBTC. Speaking of Viabtc: https://mempool.space/block/0000000000000000000027d7dda32229f3e774dafd550278fa3c87a2381ceaaa This might be a reason for the cut in a free 100tx, in the last block Viabtc paid me I checked and for sure about 50-100 tx were internal payments and moving of coinbase coins, dunno why they do it in splits sometimes but...their business. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on January 30, 2024, 11:53:48 PM Speaking of Viabtc: I think they were making way less in transaction fees compared to other mining pools, so it was inevitable they would cut down the slots. I even saw some miners complaining about it on Twitter and trying to compare to other mining pools.https://mempool.space/block/0000000000000000000027d7dda32229f3e774dafd550278fa3c87a2381ceaaa This might be a reason for the cut in a free 100tx, in the last block Viabtc paid me I checked and for sure about 50-100 tx were internal payments and moving of coinbase coins, dunno why they do it in splits sometimes but...their business. Honestly, If I was a Bitcoin miner and was looking to maximize the profits of my mining hardware, I would look for another mining pool Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on January 31, 2024, 08:21:56 AM Speaking of Viabtc: Two transactions stand out:https://mempool.space/block/0000000000000000000027d7dda32229f3e774dafd550278fa3c87a2381ceaaa This one (https://mempool.space/tx/5eb21abdadcf8fe18f85ed32c6145d61b219424be11df5757f34caf0b731c812) pays 0.05BTC in fees to send 0.03BTC and create 288 near-dust addresses (with 0.0001BTC each). I checked a (https://mempool.space/address/bc1pjqrjm6c260xtjhtc6yd0emf238zt7faynm4fz5vlll02j45z6chqxcw0gm) few (https://mempool.space/address/bc1p5vp5u40qa4tvn0hke0zs6xhvf99yw276y55nh69rmrwcaucxw5gq8pptkx) of the receiving addresses, and they're used to create even smaller dust to thousands of addresses. The Bitcoin fee structure was supposed to prevent spam, but it fails to do that. Quote internal payments and moving of coinbase coins, dunno why they do it in splits sometimes but...their business. They're even still using legacy addresses!Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: zazarb on March 01, 2024, 08:35:28 PM I don't see any information about the new rules, due to the possible amount of acceleration during the time period. After the successful acceleration of one of my transactions, I was not allowed the next one, neither the next hour nor the next day(after 00:00)..?
Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Potato Chips on March 01, 2024, 09:50:36 PM I don't see any information about the new rules, due to the possible amount of acceleration during the time period. After the successful acceleration of one of my transactions, I was not allowed the next one, neither the next hour nor the next day(after 00:00)..? Do you remember if the stats for remaining free slots remained zero at 00:00? this happened to me multiple times many weeks ago and I could not submit any entry since website was returning submissions are full so I had suspected viabtc was temporarily suspending the hourly resets 🤔 Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: zazarb on March 01, 2024, 11:04:54 PM I don't see any information about the new rules, due to the possible amount of acceleration during the time period. After the successful acceleration of one of my transactions, I was not allowed the next one, neither the next hour nor the next day(after 00:00)..? Do you remember if the stats for remaining free slots remained zero at 00:00? this happened to me multiple times many weeks ago and I could not submit any entry since website was returning submissions are full so I had suspected viabtc was temporarily suspending the hourly resets 🤔 Nova days free slots always available. I just think there is some kind of limitation, whether it's for one BTC address or IP... Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: SFR10 on March 02, 2024, 10:30:59 PM I don't see any information about the new rules, due to the possible amount of acceleration during the time period. After the successful acceleration of one of my transactions, I was not allowed the next one, neither the next hour nor the next day(after 00:00)..? Just finished doing some tests and after successfully accelerating a transaction, it kept showing the following pop-up error for a brief moment:https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/02/ywldW.jpeg I just think there is some kind of limitation, whether it's for one BTC address or IP... ✔ The only workaround so far is to create a fresh account [I was able to successfully accelerate a transaction that they refused to accelerate from my original account, so it's safe to say they're not imposing those limits on our addresses].✘ I had no luck with changing my IP. It appears that eventually, they'd be following in AntPool's footsteps [unfortunately]. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on March 03, 2024, 05:07:47 PM Nova days free slots always available. What's "Nova days"? I can't find anything useful, but I'm hoping it's an accelerator I don't know yet.The only workaround so far is to create a fresh account Only one acceleration per account still beats being overrun by Ordinal spammers who make it impossible to use.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: JeromeTash on March 03, 2024, 08:37:02 PM What's "Nova days"? I can't find anything useful, but I'm hoping it's an accelerator I don't know yet. I think he was trying to say "Now days" ;)I just think there is some kind of limitation, whether it's for one BTC address or IP... I think this explains why, even after over 30 minutes, there were at least 3 free transactions left out of the 20 free transactions per hour. I am curious to know whether an account is allocated one lifetime free transaction, or is it reset after a specific period of time?Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: SFR10 on March 06, 2024, 02:43:07 PM Only one acceleration per account still beats being overrun by Ordinal spammers who make it impossible to use. You have a point, but the rate at which these restrictions are being introduced in such a short period is a clear indication that sooner or later, there'll be no free accelerators left [I hope I'm wrong].I am curious to know whether an account is allocated one lifetime free transaction, or is it reset after a specific period of time? I can happily confirm that after four days, I was able to accelerate another transaction from my main account [I didn't check on the third day, so that might be the limit].Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on March 07, 2024, 10:34:43 AM You have a point, but the rate at which these restrictions are being introduced in such a short period is a clear indication that sooner or later, there'll be no free accelerators left [I hope I'm wrong]. Let's be more hopeful: maybe this makes it possible to change other limits too. At current fees, there's not really a point in using ViaBTC's accelerator.We need to bring back "coin days destroyed" as a priority mechanism. It's great against spam, but doesn't benefit miners. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: NotATether on March 07, 2024, 11:12:35 AM We need to bring back "coin days destroyed" as a priority mechanism. It's great against spam, but doesn't benefit miners. How is that supposed to work? Maybe it's because I've never actually seen CDD being used to prioritize transactions, but what is stopping someone from spamming with dormant UTXOs? I don't see any information about the new rules, due to the possible amount of acceleration during the time period. After the successful acceleration of one of my transactions, I was not allowed the next one, neither the next hour nor the next day(after 00:00)..? Just finished doing some tests and after successfully accelerating a transaction, it kept showing the following pop-up error for a brief moment:https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/02/ywldW.jpeg I just think there is some kind of limitation, whether it's for one BTC address or IP... ✔ The only workaround so far is to create a fresh account [I was able to successfully accelerate a transaction that they refused to accelerate from my original account, so it's safe to say they're not imposing those limits on our addresses].✘ I had no luck with changing my IP. It appears that eventually, they'd be following in AntPool's footsteps [unfortunately]. So either ViaBTC's free accelerator is almost broken but they don't bother notifying users, or all those spam transactions that were being accelerated were actually done by ViaBTC itself via back channels. There's no way I can see all the hundreds of Ordinals transactions not getting this error when using this interface to get accelerated. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on March 07, 2024, 12:21:48 PM How is that supposed to work? When I joined Bitcoin (in 2015), "coin days destroyed" was a thing. I could send any transaction up to 1 kB with 0 fees, if at least one of the inputs had at least a medium priority. I don't remember the exact thresholds, but for small inputs it took quite a while to reach medium priority. After that, it was possible to use one "medium priority" input to also include some smaller includes in a free transaction.Quote Maybe it's because I've never actually seen CDD being used to prioritize transactions, but what is stopping someone from spamming with dormant UTXOs? What's stopping them, is that they'll eventually run out of dormant UTXOs and have to wait for them to age again.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on April 23, 2024, 05:02:07 AM Now that the fees have gone insane again I was thinking to use the paid service of this site if the price is reasonable but MAN WAS I WRONG EXPECTING THAT!! I entered to txid if my recent campaign payment (obviously it has 32 outputs) and didn't believe what I saw. The price for pushing this transaction is 680$! https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/23/jDixD.png I don't know what price I was expecting to see but certainly not that!! Well, wasted 5 minutes to register there I guess, this paid service is not for me and since the free transactions are gone within 5 seconds and only cover transactions ≤0.5 KB I think it's time to delete this bookmark from my browser. 680$ !!! ::) Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: Z390 on April 23, 2024, 08:12:01 AM Now that the fees have gone insane again I was thinking to use the paid service of this site if the price is reasonable but MAN WAS I WRONG EXPECTING THAT!! I entered to txid if my recent campaign payment (obviously it has 32 outputs) and didn't believe what I saw. The price for pushing this transaction is 680$! https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/23/jDixD.png I don't know what price I was expecting to see but certainly not that!! Well, wasted 5 minutes to register there I guess, this paid service is not for me and since the free transactions are gone within 5 seconds and only cover transactions ≤0.5 KB I think it's time to delete this bookmark from my browser. 680$ !!! ::) Lol this is exactly what I was expecting, the transaction fees are high and there is not escape if anyone really want to send their Bitcoin to another address, if Viabtc is going to process the transaction for free it is going to cost them too much money, they deserve to stop the service for now. Why the need to delete it if its not going to take any space off your hardware or your smartphone? Leave it be, its time to be useful will come again, I can't remember how many times I have deleted viabtc but in the end ii always go back to open it again. Its a useful website worth having in your bookmark, this high fee isn't their fault, and they shouldn't take the responsibility of helping people to send Bitcoin for free, it could bankrupt the company in a matter of weeks, what they are doing is big, even when the fee are cheap. Every hours imagine they are processing transaction fee with $50 per Person, thats a lot in a single day. Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on April 23, 2024, 08:22:17 AM Lol this is exactly what I was expecting, the transaction fees are high and there is not escape if anyone really want to send their Bitcoin to another address, if Viabtc is going to process the transaction for free it is going to cost them too much money, they deserve to stop the service for now. Why the need to delete it if its not going to take any space off your hardware or your smartphone? Leave it be, its time to be useful will come again, I can't remember how many times I have deleted viabtc but in the end ii always go back to open it again. Its a useful website worth having in your bookmark, this high fee isn't their fault, and they shouldn't take the responsibility of helping people to send Bitcoin for free, it could bankrupt the company in a matter of weeks, what they are doing is big, even when the fee are cheap. Every hours imagine they are processing transaction fee with $50 per Person, thats a lot in a single day. A normal transaction is not 50$ in fees. If you send it right now with 200 sat/b it costs around 14$ , I just checked on electrum. So how they can charge 680$ to include a 32 output transaction is beyond my understanding. And 200 sat/b would be enough to get a quick confirmation at the moment. Anyway, it is what it is. All I can do is hope for lower fees real soon! Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on April 23, 2024, 09:06:33 AM A normal transaction is not 50$ in fees. The transaction is 1071 bytes. If you're one of the receivers and want to accelerate it, the cheapest option is to do CPFP. But I'd just wait.If you send it right now with 200 sat/b it costs around 14$ , I just checked on electrum. Quote So how they can charge 680$ to include a 32 output transaction is beyond my understanding. They add a generous profit margin for the service they provide.Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on April 23, 2024, 09:17:29 AM A normal transaction is not 50$ in fees. The transaction is 1071 bytes. If you're one of the receivers and want to accelerate it, the cheapest option is to do CPFP. But I'd just wait.If you send it right now with 200 sat/b it costs around 14$ , I just checked on electrum. Quote So how they can charge 680$ to include a 32 output transaction is beyond my understanding. They add a generous profit margin for the service they provide.Does cpfp also work on transactions with that many outputs? Anyway, using this not make any sense since pushing it via cpfp costs as much as the amount received, haha. That's like 90$ right there. :'( https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/23/jO3RD.png It would only make sense if everybody chips in 3$, but that won't happen. ;D Title: Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] Post by: LoyceV on April 23, 2024, 09:25:46 AM Does cpfp also work on transactions with that many outputs? CPFP relies on miners being smart enough to select the most profitable transaction. It should work just fine. |
