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Questions like this has popped out in several occasions and arguments concerning Bitcoin investment. My friends will say you must lose before you gain or rather have more experience investing in Bitcoin. If its how it work, Bitcoin isn't for a low income earner as well as not gonna make you rich when you can't invest something tangible to it. On the other hand people are been made big and wealthy in same program. What does it in tell, cos am quite sure people had already known what's going to happen in the market in the nearest future to give them the strong mindset to invest porously. My biggest fear is losing my hard earn to something as volatile, vulnerable and uncertain as btc. What's the possibility you invest without losing. Is it guaranteed in this kinda market?

This is not always true because you can have an early success if you will just hold on Bitcoin without being a weak hands when the price go down. The only time this saying is true is if you enter on investment while you don’t know what exactly you are entering because you will always be fearful when the price going down.

If you will just hold Bitcoin, You will never experience realized loss but rather just a paper loss which you can recover by just holding. You are not really losing your money on Bitcoin if you will just hold tight until the price is high that is good for take profit.

Losing is a part of winning, that's one thing you must acknowledge and when it comes to investing in BTC or cryptocurrency in general, you can loose faster because of the market volatilities like whale movements and rise in prices of these coins.
Still, in order not to loose much if you intend to make much future profit is to, DCA. That is, accumulate just like the way Michael Saylor is doing with Microstrategy and after a long duration maybe close to a decade, you sell it off and reinvest. 

Also, if it is to trade BTC or cryptocurrency that challenges you most, it is the truth they say that you would make much losses at first until you learn the right practice to secure your trades. Invest with money you can afford to lose.

Nothing is guaranteed and it is an uncertain market. But you can be profitable if you know how the market works. Because history tells us a different story when it comes to Bitcoin. In order to be successful in Bitcoin investment, you need to have certain skills and experience. You cannot learn them overnight and even after learning you cannot put that into work to make profit quickly. Bitcoin investment has always been a long-term plan and you need to be able to wait for that moment to come if you want to be profitable. It is not necessary that you lose in Bitcoin investment but the person who lose must not have enough knowledge about it. Then again, profit and losses are a part of any kind of investment. It's a risk that you have to take in any kind of investment which does not exclude Bitcoin.

Everyone will say this and I will say this too, if you have the will to hold your investment till the right time, you will be profitable. Holding is the key when it comes to Bitcoin investment but it is also necessary to learn when to sell. Because it will not keep on growing infinitely. What goes up, comes down too. Buy and hold. Also, wait for the right time to come so that you can sell and make a profit.

I don't believe that everyone must lose before their gain in Bitcoin unless if the speaker is talking about the frequent price movement of Bitcoin which moves up and down, that is you lose and gain at regular intervals while holding Bitcoin.
But to say that you have to lose your money that is both value and an asset as a feature of Bitcoin investment that means we relating Bitcoin to some altcoins or even Ponzi schemes, no one loses with Bitcoin unless you choose to liquidate your holding at a less price compared to the price you bought the Bitcoin.
But anything other than that means you will recover,  so if this is the assumption of those making such misconception statements, it then means that they do not really understand what Bitcoin is and stands for as an investment.

Nope. Even if it is not a guarantee that bitcoin will rise today or let say this month, there so many people who are speculating that it will sky rocket in value when the bull market arrives. So if you have bought your bitcoin and you make it stay in your wallet without selling it until the right time, you probably will get a profit. If bitcoin goes down below your buying price, you still have the whole portion of bitcoin that you had bought, the logical thing to do is to just wait for it to rise in value.

New investors lose because they sold their bitcoin because of fear or panic, that is why they lose. You don't need to experience it that's why just hold it long till you are satisfied with the price.

Whether you lose before you gain depends on when you invest, how long you hodl, and how much negative change you consider a loss.
If you're lucky to invest when the bull run is starting out, and then you sell at the top of it, you don't have to lose before you gain. If you invest at the same time as before but decide to wait for more bull markets for a bigger profit, you might lose before you gain. If you consider something like a 5-10% price drop a loss before gaining, then it's extremely likely that you will lose before you gain.
But if you aren't selling, you aren't really losing when the price is temporarily down. You can just wait it out and gain. At least, in theory.
If you're worried about volatility and losing what you invest, I think it's better not to invest because there are no guarantees that everything will go smoothly.

Bitcoin is not an investment, it is a hedge.

Bitcoin is not vulnerable, it is the safest technology on the face of the earth.

Bitcoin is not uncertain, it is an evolution of money as we know it.

I think that for you and your friends what is missing is fundamentalist study. Because from what you wrote your knowledge about bitcoin is none.

Bitcoin is a volatile asset and is subject to up and downs in price. You’re right, bitcoin isn’t going to make you rich overnight. It takes time to reap the rewards of your investment. Even if you’re a low income earner, you can still buy bitcoins, you don’t have to buy a whole bitcoin. You can buy fractions while you DCA. The most important thing to remember is to invest only what you can afford to lose.


Early adopters are the lucky ones, they made a fortune investing so little. Those days are gone now, Bitcoin has become more popular and more valuable. I don’t think those guys were 90% certain Bitcoin would reach this price in such a short time. If they did, we wouldn’t have the Lazlo story and other stories of people misplacing their wallets hodling large amounts of Bitcoin.


Maybe you should consider other investments that’s not related to crypto because there is no guarantee the market won’t dump at some point. Bitcoin is your safest bet compared to investing in altcoins.

The problem of many investors is that they come back to check on their investment every single day and do the math. If they're up, they're happy, but when they're down, they feel the pressure to sell.
Give them enough down days in a row and their conviction will fail, forcing them to sell. That's how it usually works for first time bitcoin buyers and that's why most of them lose money.

Use my advice. When you buy some bitcoin, treat it as a loss. Don't go back to it to check what it's worth every day or even once a week. Come back when you see mainstream media write about bitcoin and how much money it made in the recent year. You lose only when you sell at a loss.

It is not about a person who's a low income earner or a big earner. It's about understanding the entirety of Bitcoin about it being a very volatile asset. If you have understand that then obviously, you're aware that there are some thoughts that you'll get to see along your investing here that it's not always going up. There will be times that the market is going to be lower than you are expecting but at times, you'd see it moving up a lot.

Then invest somewhere else which don't have a lot of volatility unlike Bitcoin. How about go with gold, real estate or any of those typical assets that are tangible and you have no worry that they are not going to show random volatility as you buy them. Bitcoin isn't for the fainted heart so if you've got one then you better step out or keep on learning.

Let's say it in general that there's no investment that will guarantee you profit. If there's one, then it's likely a scam.

Investing in Bitcoin can make you lose money unless you hold it for the long term. The price of Bitcoin is highly volatile and can fluctuate over short periods of time. What time period do you choose to invest in Bitcoin? What is the investment period? Investing in assets without a clear idea of ​​what you are getting can lead to fear and uncertainty, especially during price fluctuations. I would recommend that, if you are investing in Bitcoin, if you believe in the long-term potential of Bitcoin investment and are willing to hold on to their investment despite short-term price fluctuations, then you should not lose before making a profit on the investment.

You can't determine which one you would first experience, whichever one that knocks on your door first, then you take it.
Don't be afraid to lose because the market is a two way thing, profit and lose .One thing you should take note of is the time of your investment will really position you either to profit first or lose first, if you get in at the right time, then you would have higher chances of profiting first, while if you enter the market during when there is bleeding or bear market, you will first be on the negative side.

Losing is part of any investment but it is not really something which is required but would be necessary for us to be familiarized with the feeling and to be more careful on next investment ventures. However if you are in profit without any loss then that's good as well. We just romanticize the idea that losing is part of our Bitcoin investment journey. But there are just people who can handle things better than most of us. Bitcoin's market value is just too volatile wherein losses is a bit impossible to avoid. In most cases, loss is temporary especially if you are into holding and not with swing trades. You have an option to endure sudden price dumps but since we are talking about Bitcoin as an investment, then it has less risk than with other projects and coins we can hold for a period of time. We should just avoid thinking that profit will be easily earned if you will invest and hold for years. However, things on lower timeframe reveals this idea more.

I will not consider the volatility of bitcoin that leads to some occasional decrease in value of bitcoins to be a loss, that is just normal. You must be prepared to loose money if you must invest in bitcoins, but some looses are not severe, while some can be really damaging that you may never be able to profit. To avoid the losses that completely can ruin your chances to make profit, try to learn from other people's experience so it does not become a must in your situation to experience loss before you can then profit from bitcoins.

No. Of course not.  Putting your hard-earned cash into Bitcoin or some other crypto doesn't automatically mean you'll lose money before making any.  Even if there's always a chance to not get back what you put in, you wont necessarily lose either and  plenty of people have scored big with Bitcoin and never gone through losses.  They read up on it, were smart about how much they put in, and controlled their risk.

Not entirely true, this is just a sweet lemoning of people who have lost in Bitcoin on their initial engagement.  But people who do their own research on Bitcoin do not experience losses since they know what to do with their investment.


This simply tells us the difference between investors who were driven by hype and investors who invest because they have a full knowledge of what they are investing.  Those who are driven by hypes often don't know what to do and loses their investment the first moment the Bitcoin market plummets because these kinds of investors easily panic and sell their holdings at a loss.  While those who have proper knowledge of how the Bitcoin market works are just calm and patient waiting for the time when they can sell their holdings at a huge profit.

You buy Bitcoin, you wait until goes higher than your buy price and sell it - you might have to endure an unrealized loss, but as long as it's unrealized you should have no problems and never actually lose anything. The problem is that many newbies get too greedy and engage in high risk activities like altcoin trading, or even Bitcoin day trading, especially with high leverage and derivatives. That's were it get's easy to lose big and lose quick. Don't do that, be a long-term investor.

It is just your friends' perception, it is not a must to lose first to gain profits in Bitcoin investment. In 2021, I could succeed in the first attempt of my Bitcoin investment, I didn't experience the lose first. I learned how Bitcoin price history in the previous cycle, so I can understand when the right time to buy and to sell. Bitcoin price history is trusted enough, it is quite predictable for the price increase every 4 years cycle. If we learn this, I'm sure we can get profits without experiencing loses first. But if we just invest in Bitcoin carelessly and with no proper way, it is very possible to experience the loses first. Then, we probably can succeed after we evaluate the wrong way!

Do not let anyone scare you, it is not a must that you lose in trading and investment before you gain, but because many people are still novices in the game, they tend to lose which is normal to me. However, it is not all starters who lose at first, some might, some might not, and some will win at first and lose the money somewhere later. Above all, and whatever your case is, it is all about the learning process to gain experience, and that is why it is very crucial that you do not invest big money in the beginning. You must ensure that you know how to trade very well and are capable of managing your portfolio actively before you get to invest big.

Again, you should know that trading and investment are not the same things, and if you strike a good asset at a lower price, then the possibility of not losing is so high, yet, being a good speculator is very important. Finally, there is no guarantee in any market, be it investment or trading, it is all about your experience, smartness and managerial prowess.

You're actually far from the truth I must tell, you saying shit. However you may retwist it; Bitcoin is uncertain, Bitcoin is vulnerable, Bitcoin is volatile, Bitcoin is an investment. Use your head and forget what others say about the market cos these are the core attributes of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general.  Copy and paste ain't gonna expand your scope about the market. My friends are right cos I talk out of sophistication. I have alot to unveil, yet you ain't here to learn from a dumbass like me. Aloha 🕊️

Not compulsory you must first loss before making any profit, most at times there are probability of your investment giving huge profits on the first investment, it may happen as luck or the guidance of someone who has good idea about Bitcoin. There are also cases of people loosing their money due to not seeking any knowledge and just decide on doing it themselves. They lack this vital and information which they should have known before entering into the market.

There should be no such word as Uncertain when discussing about Bitcoin, yes Bitcoin is volatile and maybe vulnerable but ideally using uncertain becomes a slab. Bitcoin has survived since a decades and many more counting despite the scam confrontations, DIP and volatility but you can attest to how Bitcoin is now accepted in various countries and organizations most people now find it worthy to invest in it and accepts it as means of payments.

I am not sure how lucky you are. Most investors lose at the beginning due to a lack of knowledge. This is actually normal; you have to understand the investment strategy. During the internship, you may face losses, and you have to accept them, but if you are lucky, you may gain from the beginning as well. It depends on market movements when you are going to invest.That's why it's advisable to invest a small amount at the beginning and learn. Any kind of cryptocurrency investment is quite risky; invest what you can afford to lose.

In crypto there is no guarantee like shit, there is only volatility especially when you are doing future. But you are talking about the investment type only so I will not talk about the future as it comes under the trading type. Well, investments in the future are not very risky if you are choosing your assets wisely. For example, If you are choosing trx, INJ, etc. as your assets to invest in for the long term then you will lose your money.

But if you chose BTC to be your asset then I can say you will definitely make some money because, in the long run, it is going one step closer to its new all-time high (ATH). but keep in mind that a proper investment plan only comes with proper knowledge not with the type of assets solely. You have to do your homework if you don't want your hard-earned money to be lost in this volatile market.

And the statement that people made that you have to lose the money at first then you will start to make money is totally wrong and based on assumption. Did those people have any experience or they are just telling you on the basis of what they have heard from others? In trading and investment, you have to be selective, disciplined, and ascetic because once you become greedy your money will be gone.

There's no investment that guarantees pure profits, as losing is already part in any type of investment. Even in physical investments, sometimes you still have to lose for you to gain big in the process. However, there are times too that you invest and you make early success, that's also possible. But believe me, that is not going to happen consistently as there will really come a time when you experience losses in the most unexpected times. For you not to get hurt so badly or fall into disappointment, know that winning and losing at some point are part of the investment process, and one can never skip from it.

Maybe what your friend means is that investment experience will influence subsequent investments. It is true that experience is truly valuable and can be effective learning, especially if we experience it ourselves. and finally learn from this experience to be more alert, careful, smart, and also wise in taking steps to invest in Bitcoin, especially. However, this does not mean that this experience is an experience of losing in investing. If it's trading, maybe you usually lose because you try several strategies and tactics.

However, for investment, especially long-term holding, I think as long as we still hold Bitcoin and don't panic about selling it at a lower figure due to its volatility, then we actually have a chance not to sell it and not lose money or loss. So that we can achieve the Bitcoin price target that the city really wants. Because after all, as long as we keep holding Bitcoin until we reach the target price, we will be able to get profits or gains.

Some potential investors may terribly be worried by the concept of losing before they can gain from the market when they hear this kind of discussions or arguments ongoing. Some of the investors will be forced to rethink their decision to want to invest in bitcoins because to them why not try something else that guarantees no loss. Are there any investments without the probability of loss? perhaps not, but while delaying and trying to seek a safe investment without the probability of loss which does not exist, they loose time and the opportunity to eanter into the market earlier.

It seems like your friend didn't explain Bitcoin to you clearly enough. Bitcoin is a volatile asset, which means that its value can fluctuate rapidly. Investing all your money in Bitcoin at once is not advisable. Instead, you should consider using a strategy called Dollar-Cost Averaging. This strategy involves purchasing smaller amounts of Bitcoin over time to achieve an average purchase price.

I think your friend is trying to say that the value of Bitcoin can sometimes decrease, but it can also increase in the future. It's important to hold onto your investment and not sell it unless the price is high enough to make a profit.

I can imagine starting over with understanding "what is investing?"

Whether it's bitcoin or other things, they will still have potential and risks in the process we are exposed to one person's formula is not always correct for the majority, so you just experiment and see what reflects on you. I know there are very lucky cases, but it is not a plurality and maybe, OP can also be lucky people, but more realistically, if you do not have knowledge and skills in this market you will be at a disadvantage many risks. Doubts will gradually dispel as you experience many feelings in this area, but always remember that a decision is yours and you need to be responsible for it.

Bitcoin newbies need to learn a lot. Part of this learning comes with losing money.

Two ways to lose money here basically:

1. Price (buy high, sell low), 2. Custody risk

It's definitely beneficial to lose at the beginning of your journey, otherwise it would cost you more time and money later down the road, but you can still be smart. Be smart learning from others' mistakes.

Most people say, diversify the assets, I say diversify the risk! Don't put all your BTC into one basket. You will lose the seed phrase, your pendrive will be broken, your computer will be unrecoverable, your trusted centralized exchange will scam you. Don't risk losing ALL of your bitcoin wealth at once. And keep hodling! This way, you'll be fine even if you lose a chuck of your assets somehow.

Bitcoin is for everyone not for high earners. People with low incomes can also own Bitcoin. If Bitcoin works only for high-income people, then low-income people cannot own Bitcoin. For me Bitcoin is not like that. Everyone has the right to own Bitcoin if they have the desire to own it.

For me, investing experience in Bitcoin is not the main thing, but knowledge of Bitcoin as a whole is what is needed.
Once someone has the basics about Bitcoin, then investment experience needs to be increased, such as understanding how the market works. Bitcoin investments that are made for the long term with a set target, I don't think require much experience except for making Bitcoin an asset for trading.

Buy cheap sell high. It is difficult to implement or not as easy as one might think, at least in investment, the DCA method or regular savings is a very simple investment pattern that can be done by people who want to invest their money in Bitcoin.

That depends on the initial performance of an investor. If he knows well his investment and he knows what he's actually doing, then losing might not be possible in the first place. But if he only invest because his peers are into bitcoin investment, and just trying to dominate his greed, well it's clear that he will incur losses in the process. Losing is part of investing, but we can always increase the chance of not to lose if we are knowledgeable and has good experience on bitcoin investing. Same like we can always increase the chance to lose if we are not cautious on our investment.

I actually have come to believe this before, but as my learning experience in crypto has gone wider, I now believe that losing is what you get when you lack the skills to make it work and productive.

Not always been the case, but I guess for those investors who have been victimized by scammers or hackers and then lost their bitcoin, it's going to be a good lesson for them. Well if you are afraid of bitcoin's volatility, then just invest what you can afford to lose, simply as that.

Do not invest all your hard earn money, others do DCA or there are investors who just buy in one go and just let their bitcoin sit. And as long as you know how to protect your account (that's the first thing that you should know), then you might do good in the long run.

I feel that something like this is not entirely true because after all we certainly have to define what kind of loss in this case especially this is also about how persistence and learning you do because it could be that things like losses you never feel even though from a value point of view it can be said to be a loss.

My point is that when we invest in bitcoin for a certain period of time but in the middle of the road bitcoin has decreased for some reason and your fiat amount in bitcoin has shrunk I don't think it's a loss because in this case the bitcoin you bought also remains at the same amount it's just that the depreciation in fiat value decreases but it's not a loss when you don't sell it's a different story if you panic and actually get out of the investment made by selling your bitcoin then it is a loss.
So in this case it is important for ourselves to think rationally in advance about what is called a loss because in the end the actions you make can affect the level of understanding of bitcoin and the loss in question.

It's not how it works, but you need to educate yourself first before investing, not just BTC but any other assets out there. In my case though, early on I was a victim of a bitcoin doubler, just lost small amounts though, not that big amount of bitcoin but it teaches me a valuable lesson.


I have to disagree though, again if we are talking about experience, there could be more average joe investor like you and me in this market.



Those who get rich could be early adopters, or just work hard day in day out, grinding, buying small amounts of bitcoin thru a method DCA and then HODL it for years and just selling it during bull run or if it is necessary. I think you have to change your mindset first and not think of bitcoin investment as a "rich quick scheme".

Your friends lack the basic bitcoin knowledge hence misconception is hindering their involvement in Bitcoin therefore this narrative have to be changed.

One must not loss before you can profit from Bitcoin like others have said. if you're involved in trading of Bitcoin it's certain that you will loss even if you're an expert in the field but when you invest in Bitcoin with what you can afford to loss then hold for a long period time then you will profit certainly without losing.

Since you're here already I guess in less than no time you will have a good Bitcoin knowledge and will not longer see Bitcoin from such perspective.

If I say 100%, surely you never gonna believe it but I can make it.
I bought Bitcoin last year, which was pretty cheap compared to the current price and if ever I sold them now, I'm gonna be in profit. You will never lose if you have knowledge about this, you will never lose if you buy and sell in good timing, and if you buy Bitcoin and top altcoins. But if you have these memes and hype projects in you, losses are way possible maybe 50%, it can only be saved if you have depth knowledge and experience regarding investment.
Choose coins that have been proven and tested already and stay away from new projects if you don't want to lose.

It's true at some point, but if you really look at it closely, no one will lose if he is into right choice of investment and he is following the basic rules when doing investment. One could only gone wrong and resort into losing if he invest without prior knowledge on his bitcoin investment, or he just only invest because of the huge potentials that bitcoin can bring big changes into someone's life.

While losing is sometimes inevitable, but we all know that we can minimize the risk of losing if we know when to enter and exit the market. If one is perfectly aware about that, he will never suffer from consistent losing.

Going by your post title: No you mustn't lose but it's an inevitable aspect of crypto you should hold in mind when investing so you don't get fumed by FUD,s in the future not to make hasty wrong  decisions about your investment. There are investors that started with a profiting foot that's just their luck but one thing I understand about bitcoin is that you just don't lose, you don't at all I'm as much as it's a long term investment plan you have set in place for yours.
Bitcoin may be volatile but it's ain't vulnerable and as for guarantee your chances of making profit is 3x bigger than that of making a loss if it's for omg term.

no investment has ever been on a constant up. there are always swings up and down
no one can perfectly time "buying the bottom"
so always expect the price to swing

yes the upside over time has a lot more potential than the down side, but dont ever think when you buy you will only see ups after your buy

bitcoin is for all income levels. its just those on low income should not invest more then they can set aside and not need in the short term
only invest amounts you wont miss, that way you wont be eager to sell too soon when the prices have not swung in the right direction

when the price does go down, dont think of it as losing, because you should not even be thinking of selling to cause actual loss. instead when the price drops its more opportunity to buy more(if you can afford to) at a even lower price to get more gains when the price swings in the positive direction

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what people need to realise is even pensions and investments that claim to offer 3%-12% yearly yield are not simple investing in one stock. nor a stock on a constant rise. instead they are investing into a fund manager that is constantly buying low selling high and moving funds around to reduce the risks

No one, not even the best investors around the world, are completely certain about what they are doing, and there is always the possibility they will lose their money, so if you are not ready to take the risk then stay away from all the markets, since people like you have the profile scammers are looking for, as they will claim they have a method to produce high profits without any risk and people like you believe them, but of course such a method does not exist and you will lose whatever money you decided to give to them.

There is no certainty in bitcoin investment and as it is too complicated it is not easy to use or to invested in it, but the thing is it is rewarding if you've studying it, deepening the knowledge, skill and experience in bitcoin will bring you good fortune, and about the question well it will depends, but most of the time beginners tend to lost some money or their investments from bitcoin at the start but it is a common thing, people tend to lose money on a investment at the start it is part of the the life, you will never know until you experienced the pain or harsh reality of one thing and that mistake or failure could be your greatest lesson, its up to the investor if that first lose or mistake will be his lesson or will be the reason for him to quit, you will need a strong dedication and will to continue despite the hardship in bitcoin investment.

What your friend is trying to to let you know is that inveating in bitcoin, there is a risk involve. The price can go up and it can go down. It is possible that by the time you buy bitcoin, you can be unlucky with the condition of the market and it will crash down but it can also appreciate in price after sometime if you hold into it and will possibly do 2x or 3x of where you bough the bitcoin, that's what he mean with the lose first before gain later.

On the aspect of must be wealthy before you can invest in bitcoin isn't through, you can invest small amount of money into bitcoin, you can buy as low as $200 dollar and when it appreciate, it will go up and whatever bitcoin does, it will do the same to your investment. If bitcoin appreciated by 200%, you will gain the same thing and you will get a profit $600, that's how bitcoin investment work, don't believe anyone that feed you with false information and please do your own research as well.

Lastly, there is nothing guarantee in this market, be ready to invest what you can afford to lose, don't do more than you are willing to put to avoid anything that will affect you later.

There is no possibility to anything here, what you sow is what you’ll reap in bitcoin. If you’re still uncertain about investing in bitcoin, it is better you don’t invest now and wait for when you’ve made up your mind to invest in it. You don’t have to lose before you can earn good in bitcoin. It is the strategy and mindset you come with that will determine how your journey here will be. When they say you’ll lose in bitcoin, it doesn’t mean you’ll lose your bitcoins, it means you’ll be at loss at some point but will regain back after sometime when the market appreciates again. This is only possible if you don’t panic to sell, so try and invest only what you can’t afford to keep for the long term in order to make good profit in bitcoin investment.

Well putting money into Bitcoin can be a wild ride because its value goes up and down a lot. Some people make a ton of money, but it's not a sure thing, and you could end up losing. We all have to do our homework, start with money you're okay to lose. The crypto market is pretty unpredictable, and even if you plan well, there's no magic trick to avoid losses.

Experience helps to make the right decisions, especially when moving in this market. An inexperienced person is almost certain to lose money. Unless they buy Bitcoin and forget, they are bound to make mistakes. Trading is hard, choosing altcoins when investing is hard. It's hard to buy and sell Bitcoin at the right time. You never know tops and bottoms. You certainly don't have to lose money, but when you do, you learn valuable lessons. Many people are going through this, going through the same stages.
Don't be afraid to make mistakes, but be careful how much you invest. Don't invest amounts in any investment instrument that you will be upset about losing. This applies not only to Bitcoin but to all investments.

Bitcoin is a volatile asset. You may invest $20k in Bitcoin, and if the price of Bitcoin drops below your purchased price, your invested capital will reduce, but that doesn't mean that you will lose your money.

Bitcoin being a volatile asset is also enough reason for you to believe that even if the price drops (depending on the market direction), it will definitely surge high again. Apart from the old Bitcoin investors who bought Bitcoin when the price was still below $10k, every other Bitcoin investor who bought around $35k may see Bitcoin drop to $30k, but if they keep holding their Bitcoin without selling at a low price, they have not lost anything. If they hold their Bitcoin until the bull market season, they will definitely make a huge amount of profit.

There's one unofficial rule of bitcoin investment that states: "If you don't sell your bitcoin below the price you bought it, then you have not lost anything."

Definitely, the price of Bitcoin may drop below the price you bought it, but it's just a temporary loss, and you will definitely make a profit when the price starts to surge in the bull market.

Investing in Bitcoin, like any investment, carries risks. While some have made significant gains, it's important to note that the market is volatile and unpredictable. There are no guarantees, and losing is a possibility. It's crucial to only invest what you can afford to lose and to thoroughly research before making decisions. Diversifying your investments can help manage risk, and staying informed about market trends may enhance your understanding. Keep in mind that past performance doesn't guarantee future results.

until whenever you will not make a loss buying bitcoin if you don't sell it below the price you bought it at the beginning, because 1 bitcoin remains 1 bitcoin forever and that will never change, what changes is only the price of bitcoin when compared to fiat.  The price of bitcoin is very fluctuating, that's true, but if you hold onto the bitcoin you have until the price really goes up again then there's nothing you need to worry about, the money you invest won't just disappear, i also suggest that you use the DCA method and buying the eep when you invest in bitcoin, so far these two strategies are the most appropriate and effective for generating profits in bitcoin investment.  believe me bitcoin will not die or become a bubble causing your money to disappear, that will never happen.

The strategy is simple, buy and hodl bit we don't use it because it's boring. If you use this strategy the possibility of losing reduced to 0% but when you buy and think you can outsmart the market by trading, you're increasing the possibility of losing. Don't get me wrong you can trade and be very profitable but the percentages of those doing this are smaller than those losing so what's then the point of putting yourself out there to the market when you could have just bought and hodl and made profits.

You must not lose before you gain when investing in Bitcoin but just listen to others that have been here before you and do exactly what they say so you don't lose. If you're stubborn and still think you know what's best to do then you'll end up like others that have regretted not investing in Bitcoin or went on to do thing for them to make quick profits by investing in altcoins or tried trading and are in losses.

Making profits from Bitcoin is easy but just because it's not looking attractive, people are thinking it's a waste of time and want to do the exciting things that only takes money away from you instead of making you more money. The nft, altcoins and the rest has taken more money than they're made people to have so they aren't worth it, just buy Bitcoin and hodl.

No, it is not a requirement to lose money in order to gain from Bitcoin investment. While there are risks involved in any investment, it is possible to make a profit without suffering a loss. This is especially true with Bitcoin, as the price has historically been very volatile. However, it is important to remember that past performance is not indicative of future results, and there is no guarantee that the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise. Ultimately, whether or not you gain from your Bitcoin investment will depend on a variety of factors, including when you buy and sell, the amount of risk you are willing to take, and your overall investment strategy...

To elaborate further, I think it's important to remember that Bitcoin is a highly speculative investment. This means that there is a high degree of risk involved, and the price can go up or down rapidly. As such, it is important to have a clear understanding of your risk tolerance and to set appropriate expectations for your investment. Additionally, it is important to diversify your investments and not put all your eggs in one basket. And finally, I would recommend consulting with a financial advisor before making any major investment decisions. They can help you to create a customized plan that aligns with your individual goals and risk tolerance....

For me, for any kind of investment, I can say that losing is normal, it's not guaranteed to always have profits.
For me, if you are really careful and you want high success. Then you must be ready, go learn first everything, learn fundamental & technical analysis and everything, then study and analyze the market before you enter, but I will say again, still not guarantee.

There is no possibility of investing without risks of losing. When you make an investment you must be aware that you may face losses, therefore only invest money you can afford to lose. Since you are fearful about losing your hard earned money, I have the impression it's money you can't lose, so think carefully if you really want to start a Bitcoin investment. There are many positive expectations for crypto market in the following year, but it just doesn't worth to take part if you are too worried about negative outcomes, because it will affect your health meanwhile. You will tend to get anxious and stressed, accessing Bitcoin charts all day long to check how your investment is performing in real time, while the correct would be to invest and forget it until promising results started appearing in the market.

Your friends probably are just trying to tell you that you will go through a learning process before you understand the Bitcoin market.

But you never have to lose anything if you are investing long term. You may or may not for a time be down on your investment, depending on when you start buying Bitcoin, but as long as you're doing it to build wealth or save long term you won't lose anything.

That's not a thing that should've happened in the first place but because a lot of crypto newbies are falling for traps in the market like buying wrongfully or buying shitcoins, it made it look like the initiation rites to be in crypto is to make a mistake which shouldn't be the thing that should happen if they've come prepared and are careful at what their next step is, the problem is that people get excited so they end up getting careless but if you're the kind that's careful and you learn the mistakes of others because you want to avoid them then you don't have to lose anything.

If you don't want to lose, don't invest, it's very simple. Invest with money that you are prepared to lose, because that is the most basic thing people should know before they invest in an asset. Moreover, when you invest in Bitcoin, you must be prepared that the risk that the value of your investment will decrease following Bitcoin prices which tend to be unstable.
But actually, if you are patient, you should be able to avoid these losses by not selling your assets when you lose. Just hold it for the long term until you get a profit.

I asked the same concern years ago when I lost my 2 BTC to ponzi type of schemes and I realized that in investing money there is always that need to educate oneself...and unless you learned the ins and outs of the business there is always that inclination to lose money. Now, am not saying that all will experience the same thing as there are now people who first learned the basics before diving in and they never allow their emotions especially that appeal to greed to come and envelope their decision making process.

It's not true. You don't have to lose anything to "gain" something from bitcoin investment. Your friends shouldn't be giving anyone crypto trading advices since they don't even know what they are saying. You should remember that as long as you aren't selling when at loss, you aren't losing anything. You still hold the same amount of coins that you held before the price went down. If you keep holding, the price will eventually recover and you will be in profit again. Even if you do lose money because you sold, think of it as a "experience/lesson". So you didn't actually lose anything but gained some knowledge. And people say bitcoin isn't for those who can't afford, is because of the volatility of the currency. They might need the money they invested anytime and will have to end up selling at loss during emergency.

What you say is very true, investing in Bitcoin and other investments certainly has risks and benefits, so it is very important for us to understand investment well if we don't want losses in the investments we make, because if we don't have knowledge about the market which is fluctuating, of course we will panic when we see the price dropping after we buy it and will sell even though we suffer a loss.

When investing in Bitcoin, it is very important to be able to use funds that we will not disturb after investing so that we can survive the investment and it is also very important for us to be able to increase our knowledge about investment so that we can still anticipate possible losses incurred in investing.

Every financial investment involves risk. No one can ever say that he will get sure profit from his investment. But who will invest by taking this risk will face profit or loss by the investment. As Bitcoin is the most volatile currency and has high value, an investor has to take the highest risk and gain adequate knowledge otherwise the chances of losing are high. But it cannot be said that everyone who invests will lose. Even if a person has relatively less knowledge, if he invests in Bitcoin right now for long term, he may not face loss. Everyone who want to invest in trading business must be prepared to lose. Moreover, I will never say loss in the case of those who will lose at the beginner level, it can also be called a type of investment.

the possibility that you will invest and not loose is by being patient with the volatile nature of btc.

It's good you already know that btc is volatile and that investing in it is not an 100% guarantee that loss will not come in but you've to invest wisely, invest an amount you can afford to loose even when though no one want to loose any invested funds. Hold on to your invested btc and don't be moved by whatever fluctuations you experience along the way, wait till the price increases above what you've bought and then you can decide to sell it out or keep holding on to it. If you follow it up this way, I doubt you will experience any loss.

It's not that bitcoin or alt coin will make you a millionaire at all because with bitcoin investment you have to be patient if you can't be patient you will never be profitable and there are some strategies to invest in bitcoin if you can't use this strategy  You will never succeed in investing. You must invest some time patiently to get success and then sell at the right time. It is not necessary that you will lose in bitcoin investment but the person who will lose must not have enough knowledge about it.

The losing part before gaining isn't with only Bitcoin, it cuts across all forms of trading. The reason it's so is because it tends to enthrone carefulness while investing as we learn from experience of past loss. That thing they say about experience being the best teacher is true. Even those who gain by stroke of luck the first time they attempt it are still likely to lose because they will definitely be carried away and throw caution to the wind. OGs in this industry understand the place of greed and are less to the temptation of getting caught by it than noobs. So, we cut our profits and run than allowing it turn to loss. Otherwise, the circle of loss repeats itself.

It depend how good you are in the starting of your Bitcoin investment, because there are some people they must lose before they will start gaining from their Bitcoin investment and the progress of learning the Bitcoin investment will later turn them to become an expert in the investment not to experience losses again. The moment you know how to hold your Bitcoin long in your investment, it will be difficult for you to lose in your investment because you already know that if you hold till the bullish season appear you will going to make a passive income. I will advice you not to be afraid of losing in your investment because sometimes, losing in your Bitcoin is part of learning but continue losing is very bad which you need to learn more before investing your money in Bitcoin.

You can tell your friends that bitcoin investment is for everyone who wants to. There is no compulsion to start investing in bitcoin, and people who want to can invest in bitcoin with little money.
Before they start investing in bitcoin, they have to learn many things, including when they can start investing.
Indeed, there are losses that they will experience before they can make a profit, but those losses will not be there forever. Luck will come when the price starts to increase so they will see the size of the profit.
Investing in bitcoin without experiencing losses is very difficult, but things will change, and you will get those profits. The important thing is that you can patiently wait for the profit to arrive and when the profit arrives, you only need to take the profit at the price you want.

For me, the most appropriate meaning is not that you have to experience a loss first, but a more appropriate term is that you must always be ready to experience the worst situation, namely loss. Because, for example, if you want to profit from Bitcoin investment, you have to make a loss first, which feels a bit strange. Because whoever is a bitcoin investor who wants to make a loss, of course everyone also wants to make a profit. So the term Bitcoin investment must make a loss first, in my opinion this term is a bit wrong.

Profit and loss is what is expected in every business venture; Bitcoin or no Bitcoin investment. Loss could be the anchor that triggers your zeal to invest more and gather more experience to avoid further losses. On the other hand, loss can be the end of the road for you in the business venture, cos it may lead to depression and heartbreak. But I have come to realize, looking at the nature of Bitcoin and other altcoins, I have learnt not to invest what you cannot afford to lose. I stand a chance to be corrected

Indeed, "no pain, no gain" is often used in investing discussions, especially about Bitcoin. But this notion oversimplifies a complex reality. Learning from losses can be helpful, but its not necessary for Bitcoin investment success. Bitcoin's volatility scares low-income earners, yet it presents opportunity.

Smart Bitcoin investing doesnt require much money. Decisions should be strategic and informed. Diversification reduces risks. Also important is ongoing market trend education. Today, knowledge is power, and staying educated can greatly decrease loss.

Can you invest without losing? Not assured, but possible with careful strategy and market knowledge. Remember that Bitcoin is a new technology with huge growth potential. Supporting Bitcoin involves believing in its long-term value. Many have transformed little investments into large wealth with patience and skill.

You do not have to necessarily lose while investing in cryptocurrencies in order for you to say you have had an experience with it already i am assuming that those people who have said that only wants to say that we shall not always assume that once we invest in crypto we are going to automatically gain profit right away

We always have to find the right balance between wanting to avoid mistakes and not being too depressed once we make some mistakes

This is not only iN bitcoin but in all investments , you invest when there is already a deep understanding and support and not just to Jump because you are being lured and told this and that.

Your money, Your obligation.

there will  be no others that will give a damn about what you will do or act because investment is our soul decisions to make so Invest in Bitcoin when you have learned what needed to .

Many says Experience is the best teacher so maybe that is correct? sometimes for us to learn it must be a hard ways , and that is what Losing is all about . this will also enhanced our knowledge and capacity to understand never letting happen again so yes  I know for real .
I have to lose in investing in shitcoin first before learning to never trust those coins though this is far from the topic as it tackles Bitcoin investing but the thought is almost the same.

It is not entirely true if you say that Bitcoin investment is only for rich people. Everyone can invest in Bitcoin and if you are talking about losses, I suspect your friend is a trader, which for me is like gambling with your money. I suggest you to become a long term Hodler and do the DCA method to invest in Bitcoin. This is important because those who find success are usually long-term Hodlers.

I can't take your word for it if you buy and invest in bitcoins at low prices. If you buy and invest in Bitcoin at a very low price and the market continues to rise from there, you may be profitable in the short term. However, if you want to hold a long-term Bitcoin investment, you may suffer some losses if the market turns upside down. But your bitcoin investment is sure to recover if you hold it for a long time. You have to take risks in life, if you don't know how to take risks, you can never be successful. Those who have taken risks in life have achieved more success in life.

This is not all the time, sometimes you gain from your investment without losing. Yes, this is true that every time you don't lose before earning or gaining profits.

We enter into market thinking we will get going and start earning right from learning something but this isn't the case and this thought or mindset only leads to the loss. We lose we learn properly and then execute.

I personally invested in stock market for long term, I didn't face this at that time. But then I thought of trading daily, I started learning and started by completing it but I failed this time because I was overconfident, lack of knowledge(Technical Analysis). If we are losing, it is due to our own fault.

Find it, sort it and the losing probability will surely decrease. I cannot say that this will never happen but this will not happen everytime.
But yes as many explained above losing or failing does teach us. It is hard but sometimes human brains/pshycology really needs it, to understand the value of anything in this World.

No.
There might be some investors here who experienced losing first before gaining when investing in Bitcoin, but I will say no as a user who gained first before losing money.

I might consider myself lucky because when I started to learn Bitcoin and cryptocurrency, I had the opportunity to earn some tokens (through bounty campaigns here), and luckily I sold them for Bitcoin. On that alone, I can say that I already gained Bitcoin because I didn't invest any of my money into it, but only my time promoting that project. From there, I continued earning some tokens, converting them into Bitcoin, and gaining through it. Maybe the only time I lost was when I didn't sell all of my Bitcoin holdings during the 2021 bull run.

For sure, most here experienced losses before gains because they invested their own money to buy Bitcoin. That wasn't the case for me since I got my Bitcoins for free so I gained 100%. :D

This is not a rule in Bitcoin that you must lose before you gain in Bitcoin. but there are of both losing nad gaining in bitcoin.. it is possible that you will gain without losing and it is also possible that you'll loose everything without gaining anything. it all depends on your Knowledge, skills, and the place you invest as well as how well you manage your investment.
Speaking of Low-income earners. I don't agree with that. Bitcoin is for everyone. everyone can earn profit from it doesn't matter how much they invest. only the right skills and knowledge you need to execute a good plan and manage your investment properly.

No really. Nobody can give you a guarantee of profit, and nobody can say that you must lose. If they say, it's the wrong statement. This is not true at all. You may lose if you play with it, like trying to trade on exchanges, double your bitcoin by gambling, or try crypto doubler or hyip websites. Most crypto newbies fall into traps when they see some nice offers. But whenever you see some offers that are too good to be true, they will likely be scams!

If you want to know mine, I didn't buy Bitcoin. I have earned most of the holding from several signature campaigns and some crypto projects where I worked with them. I lost too much in my first bull run because of my inexperience. But I hope it won't happen this time.

Yes there's no sure investment for profit making only as risk is usually involved in any investment but there are a number of things you can invest in which the probability of getting profit in the end is very large with a slim chances of making a loss and bitcoin is one of such things to invest in. There are several other cryptocurrencies that are of higher volatility than bitcoin for bitcoin isn't the most volatile cryptocurrency. What I can tell a newbie wanting to invest in bitcoin is that they should invest only amount of money they can afford to lose and have patience on without been tempted to withdraw out of FUDs.

Losing is not a requirement for future gains. If you lose, that's because you lack the knowledge that is crucial in your bitcoin investment, and not because you lose first before you gain. What you put in your investment is what you reap later on. So if you invest without understanding your investment from the very beginning, then its possible that you will gain more losses than profits. Profits determines your success, and you won't be successful without knowing your investment well.

There is a little bit of truth to that because hardly anyone has been used to this insane volatility within the Bitcoin market when they first got in touch with cryptocurrencies. It was way harder when you have been around like a decade or more than that because back then the biggest crashes that we see happening in weeks these days could happen in a few hours back then.

When I got into the market I had fat fingers all the time and I was sitting at the buy and sell button without interruption as I thought I have to. When I made my first little mistakes because I sold too early as I thought it must crash any second because it went up quite a bit, I learned that HODL is the way to go at least for the biggest portion of your portfolio.

If people like to trade because they do it also for fun reasons and to stay in the loop, splitting up the portfolio should be the first thing to do. Put some Bitcoin aside that you never touch and keep some that you want to play around with and enjoy having at your disposal for some quick trades, but really don't touch 100% of it and try to time the market. But if you do, your post will apply and you will most likely learn your lesson. :)

The common problem in most of us is our doubts, lack of trust, and confidence in the market because of the FUDs and scam issues we have heard. That certainly affects our mindset, that certainly affects our decision, and is a common reason why panic selling happens.

What I see is that you are in a circle of friends who have the same views about Bitcoin and probably have bad experiences in investing. Try to ask those who have succeeded in this field and you will know what they are doing to avoid losses. In fact, if we know how to hold and wait for the price to pump after buying, we will never incur losses but profit. Unfortunately, many were impatient and a FUD believer, and so they lost their hard-earned money.

As long as we take risks there is a higher chance that we may experience loss but that depends on what kind of strategy you are using but if you are new to crypto, the most advisable one is to just buy and hodl. One thing is that losing is part of every game so prepare for the worst and learn from mistakes you did in your investment journey. In crypto it is possible that we might lose the price but not the amount we have in our wallets due to volatility. They say only ironhands are having the most success in crypto. 😁

Bitcoin is a long-term investment project where people are able to earn a large amount of money at a time by investing. But many of them say that the first time people lose their money by investing in Bitcoin, it is usually due to people's mindset. When a new person invests without realizing that if the market goes down from the highs of the market then his money goes down and he is in losses, he does not have patience but he loses patience. However, we have seen that in spite of this reality, no investor has ever lost his money by investing in Bitcoins, but has made a lot of money by holding on to it. So if you want to earn more money by investing in Bitcoin then you must plan and hold for a long time. But you have to accept that when the volatility starts in the market, your investment money will suffer. If you find the right niche in the market to invest in correctly, you will never make a loss and you will make good money if you hold it for a long time.

To answer your question straight, it's no, you must not lose before you gain in Bitcoin investment. It's just a mere misconception that has been spread too far. The truth is that, we all know that bitcoin is actually a volatile asset and of course it has risks associated with its investment but it is not must that you'll lose your money before you gain. Although, it's unlikely not to experience lose at one time or another since the market is always fluctuating and that's how your money will be responding to market trend. One certain thing is, if you can hold for a long time without worrying much about the fluctuating nature of the market while you keep accumulating as much as you can, you'll definitely gain in the long run.

Plenty people have made money from bitcoin investment and you have no reason to believe that you can not do the same. However, you should also know that bitcoin is just like any other investment and you need to do research about it risks before you get started. Don't fall for others misleading information when you also have the opportunity to learn more about it.

Opi Bitcoin investment is risky so you must invest in Bitcoin at the right time before you invest in Bitcoin. If you don't invest in Bitcoin at the right time then you will never profit from Bitcoin instead you will lose your money. Patience is definitely very important in Bitcoin investment. You have to be patient and invest for a long time. If you don't have patience, you will never succeed in Bitcoin investment. If you are impatient or don't take the time to invest in Bitcoin, no Bitcoin investment will ever lead to success, so always have a long-term Bitcoin plan.

To be able to gain profits from investing in Bitcoin, of course we must have a good understanding so that we don't lose the money we invest in Bitcoin and if we don't have the knowledge, it would be better if we could learn it first from those who already have experience in this field because if We force ourselves to invest and don't have a good understanding of course we will not be able to reduce the risk of loss in the investments we make.
You are right, it is very important for us to be able to hold the Bitcoin that we have invested in order to make a profit and we must be able to hold on for a long period of time until we make a profit.

There’s no specific reason that proves you need to lose first before you gain your profits. That is not a requirement either. Whatever the outcome of your investment reflects how you manage them and how you overcome the risk associated in such investment. Losing is not pre determined, as well as gaining or profiting. But what is certain is that losing and winning are both present in bitcoin investment. It’s only a matter how you can manage your losses and improve for the better. And appreciate your profits and be motivated even more.

This happens not all the time. Only those who fail manage the risk end up losing in bitcoin. And those who have no real understanding on what type of investment they are doing, they will encounter a lot of losses at first. But we all know bitcoin investment can be learned.it can be successfully done with knowledge and experience in the market. And of course, with high amount of patience that is a must have when you decide to invest for long term.

It's not a must per se, but the thing is that you have a higher chance at losing on your trades and investment when you're still starting off as a cryptocurrency enthusiast. So yeah it's not a must, but something that will definitely come to you just based on the circumstances set upon a regular investor. Hell even when you're an investing pro you'd still lose money every now and again, but the amazing thing about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is the fact that it's cyclical, so in a sense as long as you don't sell off your holdings, you won't lock in your losses and you may even experience a break-even or a profit in the future if you wait long enough, that's the beauty about bitcoin that's not particularly present in any other investment venture.

Plus who's saying bitcoin's not for the low income earner, I'd argue the opposite actually and say that bitcoin is for the low-income earner since out of all investment ventures out there, since it's the only investment tool out there that you can put as low as a dollar in and still expect some form of return! You can't do this with any other investment venture out there my friend. It's all about the mindset and how you would play around your current financial state.

It is normal for profit to come after loss. Every investment has two possibilities either profit or loss. Expecting monopolistic profits from investing is absolutely foolish. Losses are an important part of investment risks. Since investing in Bitcoin is a risky business, this investment may lead to losses before profits.
However, it is not always the case that there will be a loss before the profit, but even after getting a long profit, there may be a big loss at some point. This risk must also be accepted. It is also an important principle of business that even after a long period of loss, a large profit can come.

Little disagree with this opinion must loss before gaining profitable in bitcoin investment, actually experienced is the best teacher for use when get losing position after investing in bitcoin but we can fix it how to manage well without loss much for the first time investing in bitcoin. Many trader or investor have their experienced with loss in bitcoin investment but must not allow with their way how to be success when investing in bitcoin at the future. Have to learned and read the history many people or trader make fatal mistake and loss much when first time investing in bitcoin to make not make the same way with the other trader before losses on their first investment.

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Not all bitcoin investors have loss for their first time investing but get correction of bitcoin price is usual habit and get second chance waiting when bitcoin returning to higher price and sell it to earn much profit without have losses on first time investment in bitcoin.

Investment or trading, loss is unavoidable but if a person loses all capital in either trading or investment, nothing will be left to get future gains.

Protecting capital is vital in both trading and investment. If a person fails to protect capital and fails to avoid fatal loss, it's the end. With empty hands after a or some fatal losses, the person must be very strong to avoid suicide or strong enough to sit down, analyze mistakes, and move on with working to restart again.

Sometimes, people lost all money not because they made bad decisions for trading or investment, but because they used bad method to store their funds.

In cryptocurrency, use non custodial (self custodial) and open source wallets.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421039.0).

No, I don't think investing in bitcoin has to include losing money before making money. The value of Bitcoin can fluctuate, just like the value of any other investment, and it is common for us as investors to experience gains or losses based on a variety of factors like supply and demand, market conditions, and changes in regulations.

We are all aware of how volatile bitcoin can be and how quickly its value can fluctuate. Because of this, it is important that we study the market, pick up some strategies, and determine whether now is the right time for us to invest in bitcoin. We must pay attention to how it flows and refrain from making snap decisions based on temporary market swings that we might come to regret.
For me, bitcoin is also the best option if we plan to invest in it for the long term, that is, if we have the patience to wait for the market to reach the goal we have set.

Investing in Bitcoin will not make you a millionaire.  The reason why many people face losses by investing in bitcoins is because to invest, you must invest wisely and adopt many investment strategies, otherwise you will face losses wherever you invest.  If you have experienced losses from past investments and can't learn from them, you will never make a profit from investing.

lol , that's wrong because what if you invest hundred thousands in bitcoin so in no way that the price will reach million of dollars as you are saying here?

what you mean is Bitcoin will not make you instant millionaire but you can earn by making a continues buying and selling and that is what most people are doing now.
buying at low and selling high over and over again.

but we need not to tolerate than sense mate , to profit after loss instead we can work with it to prevent from happening or at least lessen the chance.

There is no investment in this world that doesn't have a risk associated with it. Bitcoin has its own risk but provided you keep holding your Bitcoin without selling it you are definitely going to get your investment back overtime and make profit. For me I don't really see the loss in Bitcoin investment provided you don't develop cold feet when the price is going down, as it is certain that the price will come up again, this is where patience comes in.

Must you lose before you gain ? Well my answer to this answers the question that follows, and this is kind of a Yes and No answer... beginners luck could happen and get away without losing but losing at first try means you have the experience and know how to handle the next trade in terms of patience and emotional control...

Must you have experience ? For the long game I believe this is something one needs to have gone through to avoid emotional breakdowns in the future....

Honestly, like any other new industry that has turned out successful, all the early birds do catch the worm afaik ...and fyi those that invested first have been paid a 1000X their investments if they didn't sell early which teaches us that a bit of risk and patience pays off ...if you invest with fear I don't think you playing the long game, any small profits means jumping out of the markets  :P

With the hike in transaction charges, profit making by the Marchants is constant. Like the POS machine operators, the transaction charges forms their benefits.

And the total sum of transactions whether higher or lower forms their Lossing rate or gaining rate.

General investments experiences gain loss through charges and fall in prices.

If you have enough bitcoins buy for the sunny day, in other words to avoid losses , you must endure hunger like your money is in a fixed deposit, until there is green light in the hike in the prices of bitcoins.

You don't lose anything if you exactly know what you are doing and this goes back to having enough knowledge of how to invest properly without exaggerating or causing harm to your mental health. If you just completely do what others do without knowing first what are your capabilities when it comes to your bitcoin investment, you will end up falling into confusion because they have their method of recovering themselves once they have failed to enter the crypto market the right way and they will just simply leave their bitcoins for a while and do the things they were doing without thinking of their investment too much like the others do when they used the money that isn't supposed to spend on bitcoins investment.

Of course, every investment has the risk and they mustn't guarantee for profits. It is the same when we are investing in Bitcoin, volatility is the risk and no guarantee to get profits if we are holding it for few years. It depends on the way to invest in it and how we can understand about entry-exit on the Bitcoin investment. TBH, I learn about the price history, it is very important to determine when we will decide to take profits in the next years.

Gaining and losing are both part of the game in the fascinating world of cryptocurrencies, where investors can purchase digital currency like Bitcoin. Think of it as a grand adventure! Although there are risks involved, not everyone on this cryptocurrency adventure needs to lose before winning. It's important to keep in mind that investing in cryptocurrency, such as Bitcoin, is not always a surefire way to become wealthy.

It resembles a game in which you could win or lose. For this reason, the experienced people who have been in the cryptocurrency space for a long time and who have a thorough understanding how it works always offer the newbies a helpful word of caution. As the saying goes, Invest only what you can afford to lose, so use caution and take no more risk than you feel comfortable doing.but from the history of Bitcoin with early investors experience it has proven that if someone can hodl it Bitcoin for a long period of time it will sure be in reason profits, so to avoid lost in bitcoin investment you have to be able to hold for certain period of time.

We have no control of the market, we can lose and also gain but it have to be different days, there's no day that passes by without traders making gains and also complaining about making losses in the system. There's no infinite or smooth path of generating quite significant amount of the system, just play safe and everything will run out smoothly. Losing is part of the game, we lose for us to gain, it's simple abstract and we should be ready to face whatever outcome experience. Bitcoin investment is risky and I've witnessed so many losses infront of my very own naked eyes.

You don't need to lose if you want to get successful in investing in bitcoin. It's just that there are many newbies who invested on bitcoin without the needed knowledge, that's why they lose their investment. There are so many people who made good amount of money by investing on bitcoin, some even got rich by investing on the early days of bitcoin. It's just that these people are equipped with knowledge that's why their winning chance is greater.

Invest on the basic knowledge first before investing your hard earned money on bitcoin. The knowledge can be obtain for free over the internet, it is way better that investing your hard earned money and panicking because you don't know what is going on with your investment.

Along with learning about bitcoin and the whole cryptocurrency, you will learn that there's no such thing as guaranteed in this market.

Probably, for those who have not actually investing in bitcoin, they may think that bitcoin is all about more losses and few gains. Hence, if you will not lose a lot, you will never gain profits afterwards. But bitcoin is not like this, and we are aware of it. People only lose not because that's the trend in bitcoin but because they invest without making a good preparation and instead of educating theirselves, they rush into satisfying their greed and incur losses in the process.

While losing is unavoidable in bitcoin, gaining profits is also inevitable most especially if you know how to combat your losses and maximize your ways to stay in profits.

We should really be at least be realistic on the things that we are dealing with on which it would really be just that wise that we should really be that knowing about investment thing on which this isnt really just that limited to Bitcoin but only speaking into other traditional things specially about investment. If you are aware then we know that even building up a business or having investment traditionally wont really be giving out any guarantees or assurance of gain or simply there's always that certain risks on which you would really be needing to deal off with on which it would really be just that always part when it comes to investment
where there's always that risks on losing money before you could be able to gain. Its inevitable specially into this market on which price is always that volatile and unpredictable.

If you do have doubts that you cant really be able to handle out such volatility then crypto investment isnt for you, or simply you must be having those realizations first before
you would really be diving in into this market because if you cant really be able to do such thing then you wont really be able to fit out yourself on such investment field.

This is only from the eye of a beginner who has no knowledge when it comes into bitcoin investing. Because if you are really into bitcoin investing, you will know that there are higher chances to gain profits than to see yourself losing if you know how to invest the right way. By hodling bitcoin of more than 5-10 years, without resorting into panic selling when there is market crash, then you will never experience visible losses as long as you did not sell at its low price.

Losing from Bitcoin investment does only happen if you invest just to satisfy your greed. Greed is the biggest obstacle when investing, since you create wrong decisions out from your greed and not from your proper way of thinking.

I think the word guarantee shouldn’t really be used when talking about investment and investment choices because, business or investments is a profit/lose space and as such, it’s only natural that at some point, either of the possible resultant on a decision would come to play.
You must learn to accept lose because, it would come. Be it Bitcoin or some other field of investment, you would lose at some point but, what makes the most importance is that, your wins should be more than your loses.
One who is scared of loses is one who isn’t ready to make money. Your phobia for loses might save you some risk that could have ended in loses but, it would also make you lose opportunities that could have benefited you as well.

Well Bitcoin investment is not Bitcoin gambling so I don't believe on the theory of losing first before making gains. There is no loss in Bitcoin investment if you understand how the market moves. Like in the year 2022, Bitcoin price was decreased to $16,000 and if you used $100 to buy a unit of Bitcoin and hodle it till now that Bitcoin is $42,000 to $44,000, tell me how much you have gotten from the investment? And those who invested in 2013 with small amount of money buy now they have making enough cash.

Bitcoin investment is all about patient and endurance. Don't be in hurry to sell them off because you regret later that you sell you Bitcoin at the early age of the bull market. And for you not to lose our from the bull market is hodling with patients and endurance.

Loses are like risks, it necessary for development and in investment ve it in digital goods or any physical business there myst be risk and loses this two factors are what the journey sweet and also build the most experience for the investor on a long-term basis, so any one that is looking forward seeing any form of development must be ready for risk and also when it comes to business it also relate to loses because this is the most looked out for negative aspect of the business, but it a great tool inline with growth and development in business.


So for that we have to accept losses as part of the business and should not be afraid of recording losses at any point or trying to allow some temporary losses to have an impact on our well such as affecting our level of motivation, it's better to face our loses with a positive mindset to as it impacts on the business and even the investor personal well being on the long since loses are in different categories.

actually riskier what bitcoin has but the more you risk is the more your chance of gaining bigger
comparing to other investment and it has been proven for more than 10 years now.

I don't think there is a need in losing before gaining  unless you will enter with ZERO KNOWLEDGE ,
because there are lots of people i meet in groups that gain even before they lose  ( but of course losing is part
of every investing because there is no perfect  way in dealing with money) so let lose be part but not to expect
it before earning as knowledge and temper is the key here.

You heard them right, but that doesn't mean you are going to lose the money you put in bitcoin. When you invest in bitcoin, the money you put into it is considered at a temporary loss during bear season. So, it is important to remember that you should invest what you can afford to lose.

Well, if you don't have enough risk appetite then I suggest not to get involve in bitcoin or any crypto investment, especially for you who's looking to have a guaranteed return. It's most likely you will gonna sell during correction because you'll easily panic.
 

Everyone invests in Bitcoin and other coins with the expectation of making a profit from the investment but not everyone has the right idea about investing or not everyone knows whether he is investing properly. After investing, when he finds that he has lost a lot of money, he gradually realizes where his investment went wrong and where he needs to improve. To get the right idea about investing, first an investor should lose money because that loss will help him understand the right investment method. After investing he got profit and from then on he will have the idea that maybe investing is like that and investing maybe so easy. So to get the right idea about the investment even if the money should be lost first so that the investor can get the right idea.

That's a really valid concern. The whole "lose before you gain" idea in Bitcoin isn't a set rule, but it's true that many investors face losses before they see gains, especially if they're new to the game. It's partly about getting a feel for the market's ups and downs and learning from those experiences.

For someone on a tight budget, the volatility of Bitcoin can indeed be daunting. It's not a guaranteed win, and it's definitely not a get-rich-quick scheme. The crypto market is unpredictable, and while some people have made significant gains, others have faced losses.

Investing in Bitcoin without losing isn't guaranteed. The best approach, especially for a low-income earner, is to only invest what you can afford to lose. It's also wise to start small, learn as much as you can, and maybe even practice with some simulations before putting real money in.

Remember, Bitcoin investment is just one option. There are other ways to save and invest that might be more suited to your financial situation and risk tolerance. It's all about finding what works for you and your financial goals.

It’s not written anywhere that you must lose before you gain anything and it’s only those that started out on their on own without any form of support or guidance from anyone that mostly experience losses and gain more experience from the loss.

There is nothing like BTC not for low income earners, it’s for everyone with the capacity to invest regardless of much money they earn so far they are investing an amount they can afford to lose and a person who earns little can still invest with little amount on timely basis and accumulate BTC gradually, it is not mandatory to invest a huge amount.

Bitcoin investment is for the strongest minds but if you hold for a long time I believe you should not run at loss.

That is why before investing in bitcoin you have to understand it very well . If you are investing bitcoin and the price of bitcoin in the market goes down dip, it doesn't totally mean you have lose your bitcoin, you only lose your bitcoin as the price goes down and you sell out because of fear, but if you stay firm without selling but keep hodling it, no lose has occurred.

 People will have the patience to hodl bitcoin have no lose . It is important that the volatility of bitcoin should be well understood before making plan to invest in bitcoin. When people finds it to understand that bitcoin is volatile they always have problem on how to make their investment profitable because they consider the fall of price of bitcoin as lose which it can be gain back by hodling.

Of course we will encounter losses and profits, of course not just BTC investments but other businesses too, like in the real world, of course we will encounter losses and profits.

investing in BTC will indeed result in losses if we invest in the wrong way and of course the main factor that causes losses is due to a lack of knowledge about crypto. The fluctuating price of Bitcoin is everyone's hope because without price fluctuations, I'm sure there won't be many people interested in buying BTC.

and in investing in btc only money that is ready to be lost is worth putting in btc, of course as you can see the price of btc has been rising continuously and a few days ago the price of btc experienced a correction and I'm sure people bought btc a few days ago even though they felt it was expensive or full of fear but for people who have been holding on until now of course they are happy because the price of BTC is rising, now the price of BTC has reached more than $45k and this is truly extraordinary.

In my opinion, investing in BTC should not be sold when you experience a loss and only sell when you make a profit.

Can any other investment guarantee that you won't lose your money? It seems to me that no one can ever give you guarantees regarding investing money, and therefore you must diversify your investments. You will have those that, in your opinion, will be safer, but will bring less profit, and there will be those that contain greater risks, but at the same time they can bring very good profit. Perhaps you will lose some of them, this is also possible, but if you do nothing, then you will not be able to achieve anything.

But losing on the first try is a disaster for me. In fact, it shouldn't have happened to anyone if we invest our knowledge first before investing but unfortunately, many people think that crypto investment is easy and so they ignore the consequences. Of course, losing is a part of the game but doesn't mean that we just let it happen, we can do something to avoid it unless we don't do anything to help.

The simplest way to avoid losses is to buy low, hold, and sell high. That is basic as we know but the problem is sometimes we have been influenced by our emotions and that causes losses. 

Not necessarily one must loss bitcoin before he gets a gain in an investment.That's why they advise that you should never invest more than you can afford to lose.everybody will not  always win in the cryptocurrency market and some people have not made the right investment decisions choices but whatever it is,just make sure your gains are more than your loses.

If you are a beginner and you don’t have much knowledge about bitcoin investment, then when you are trying to learn, you will have to lose first, you can’t just start what you don’t know about, and you think you won’t be losing even if it’s a little amount of money, so when you are about to start investment, you should have it in mind that losses will set in, but it should serve as motivation to you, that shouldn’t affect you.

Bitcoin investment is not how much you invest, it’s how long you can hold. You might decide to invest as low as $10, and hold for like 5-10 years, you might be making the same amount with someone that invested $100 and hold for just 1 year. Just imagine you invest $10 or $5 in bitcoin and you have been holding since bitcoin was created, just think about the amount you will be holding right now, so even if you have small amount to invest, just hold.

I think people exeggarate discussions a lot sometimes. Bitcoin is obviously not guarenteed income method. Its very risky and it reacts a lot compared to Gold or Silver. But in my opinion, its nature (limited supply) makes it rather safe investment method. Or we may say future-proof. Every other currency on market loses value. Even swiss Franc performed terrible if you check their data. But Bitcoin always competes with the best stocks like nvidia or tesla.

Why need to lose first if you know what you are dealing and how you need to deal with it?

Yeah considering about the value, we may lose first but as long as we are not selling the coins then literally we are not losing instead we need to wait for the right time to full out.

Example buying at 20k now and then the price drops below 15k the next day , this does not mean you are a loser because the Volume of bitcoin you are holding remained .
But when you consider selling this at that value then indeed you lose, but when  you keep Holding and in the next week the price  grows to 30k then this is winning.

prevent from  not expecting too much easily instead buy and consider holding first.

It's not easy as it is. If you are not well-versed in Bitcoin, the thought of holding on to your investment may not be the first thing that comes to mind. As a novice with little knowledge of the subject, it is common to feel afraid of losing your investment.

I learned this over and over again about how one might experience losses when investing in Bitcoin and no that would have to happen if one were not greedy or lacked proper knowledge of market conditions. Simply put, you will never lose when investing in Bitcoin, if you don't panic and be calm in going through badly corrected market conditions, your investment will be fine because panic and impatience will only make you lose. I have seen the possibility of this happening and actually talking about losses only depends on each individual's knowledge in investing.

Even though the bitcoin cycle will continue to repeat itself and we can see the next ATH to talk about maximum profit. How big is the possibility of losing an investment in Bitcoin, it really depends on how knowledgeable you are in handling investments. You will never lose the results of your hard work when investing in Bitcoin, as long as you make the right and appropriate investments.

It is not a must to lose before we gain but it is about learning first before we gain, and losing is not really what happens earlier but can be possible. We can avoid losing if we have an idea of what is Bitcoin investment is all about but too unfortunate that many are rushing and taking risks without knowledge. Of course, not a surprise this would happen to them.

That is why losing is not an excuse because we are new, we can do research prior to it instead. There is always a way to save our funds but many are on their emotions leading to wrong decisions.

It depends.

If you're a holder, the reasons you could lose your money is if you stored it in an online wallet and someone stole your Bitcoin, you lose your private key, or you completely forgot you have Bitcoin in your wallet.

Losing money on another situation like futures trading is inevitable, especially you really need to gain experience first before you could make a profit since luck won't help you with it. It's like, in order to be successful, you need to fail a lot of times.

The advice your friend gave applies to those who have less or no knowledge about Bitcoin and how the four year cycle works, there is a 80% chance that such people will lose before they gain and that's even if they learn from their mistakes.

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Let's not forget that some people became obsessed with hype which caused them to hold when others are taking profit, lack of knowledge is what will make them sell when the price already dumped instead of holding for the long term. The best advice I can give is learn before entering into any investment plans, don't just invest because your friends are doing the same.

There are best times to invest in Bitcoin and there are bad times to invest in Bitcoin, learn about this first or don't invest at all, those who got better at Bitcoin investment today must have wasted some time in the past, because it takes a single bear market and bull market for a beginner to wise up, some scared away and start calling Bitcoin a scam, those who stay learnt their lesson and prepare better in the upcoming bull/bear market.

Part of any investment is profit and loss. There is no guarantee that everything will go smoothly in this uncertain market. But if you don't acquire enough knowledge about how to invest or hold properly, your chances of losing are inevitable.

Your investment time will lead to profit or loss. If your investment enters the bull market at the right time, you will not lose anything, but profit is guaranteed. And you won't lose money investing in Bitcoin in the long run. The problem is when you don't understand the fluctuations of the market, you don't have patience and you get panicked by the volatility and lose money.

I think you should do your own research instead of observing others (your friends). Become experienced by acquiring proper knowledge about investing in Bitcoin. Research for yourself that Bitcoin is not a weak, uncertain asset but the most secure and volatile asset. And if you don't have enough money to invest it, you can invest Bitcoin by adopting DCA method
Above all, we must remember that you invest what you can lose.

It all depends on how you think of starting because I believe those that have such mentality actually started their Bitcoin investment journey with the wrong steps to follow it up. You must not lose before benefiting with your investment, in a case where there is proper strategy and planning then everything will be as simple as ABC. The DCA strategy is actually a method that has proven to have low risk and high good results if properly followed.

In a case when you did no research and have no understanding in what you are actually getting involved then lose of capital will certainly be the end result and also many people get into Bitcoin investment because of the huge made up story of how easy it is and you fill with thrills can just go and make blantant mistake and end up getting losses.

The saying that you must lose before you gain is 100% not true and I'll give you a real life example.

I got interested in bitcoin in 2014 when I heard about the bull market in 2013 and the Mt.Gog collapse. Before I started buying bitcoin was already -70% from its all time high and the phase when I became bullish somehow fell into the realms of the bitcoin bear market. For the whole 2015 the price was mostly flat and boring and I never got any profit, but I saw it as a buying opportunity and started selling when I was Up more than 2x in 2017, which looking at it now was a mistake but we learn as we go, right?

I'm not going to believe those words because that only happens to those who invest in Bitcoin without knowledge. Perhaps, we can avoid that from happening if we care to listen to others' advice and not invest blindly. Many people never lose from investing in Bitcoin because they manage it so well. In an investor mindset, the word losing is not on their mind, they'd find a way to earn rather than let their money cast in the wind. Losing is not an option unless we don't mind wasting our money but if we value that much, I don't think we just let it happen as there's always a way to save our funds from that situation.

It is not a must that you must lost to make gain in bitcoin,  but the reason why most of the beginners lose in the beginning of their journey in bitcoin is because they are new to the market,  their little understanding,  no much experience can make them to lose. This experience of lose gives more understanding on how to follow up the market better .
Some beginner when investing in Bitcoin and the market start dipping because of lack experience,  they become afraid and sell out which they will sell out to lose, but for those who have understand the market better they believe it is only hodling Bitcoin profit can be gained even if the market goes dip.

If you hodl and never in panic to sell when the market goes dip it is possible to gain profit in your investment without loosing,  so  far as it is bitcoin. Profit can only be achieved by just hodling.

It's really not true, Why will we lose money on our first investment before making a profit? If we can't lose money when investing in bitcoin. The most important thing to know before deciding to hold bitcoin is that we need to understand it, we can't just buy bitcoin because we hear about it and assume that many people are making money through it. Let's invest for the long time whenever we decide to do so. If we invest for the long time, we will do well in the bitcoin market. Many individuals have lost money because they invested for a short period of time or  they didn't have enough knowledge about it.

Don't be afraid, you cannot lose money in bitcoin, mate. Just make sure you educate yourself about bitcoin before purchasing it, buy and hold for a long time, and earning good profits. Don't wait to buy bitcoin until you have a huge amount of money, some investors begin somewhere. You can begin investing with as little as you can afford because it involve a lot of risk.

Fear of losing an investment or fear of losing the amount of investment value due to a decrease in the price of the invested asset is a very natural thing for a beginner. But for those of you who are no longer beginners in terms of your knowledge of Bitcoin, you can also direct those beginners who have started to like Bitcoin so that beginners can be more enthusiastic in trying to become better at investing and can have more confidence in Bitcoin. Because this can at least eliminate a little of the fear that beginners have.

Whether they do get some advises from those experienced one or not, they would really be naturally be able to learn up things along the way. Everyone starts on being a noob on which those mistakes and errors
are normal and with those things you would really be able to find for yourself on what are the things that you would be needing to do.Once you do able to have those experiences then it would be natural that you would really be making out those adjustments and its a normal approach for you to do so. When it comes to investment then losing is inevitable on which no matter how professional you are and no matter how
good you are but still you are prone to losses. The main difference only here is that once you are experienced, you do already know on what you would gonna do at least.

Making out those adjustments will really be just normal for you to do so. Bitcoin investment or any other investment then it wont matter. Diversification would really be that
best and it would be a better choice if you do have that capacity on doing so.

Not necessarily. You mustn’t lose money to gain instead you must be open to lose money to gain. You can invest in Bitcoin and your money never drops and rockets up to gains. But just bear in mind that it could be the exact opposite. So having an open mind is the best thing to do.

Bitcoin wasn’t designed for the rich. I can’t find anywhere on the whitepaper where Satoshi said that you should be rich. Instead, they made it possible for anyone to own really tiny bits of Bitcoin. Do not forget the main reason it was created (not to make money but to manage your money).

It is possible to prevent losing your bitcoins in one go if you take a little precaution. If you carelessly transact and hold bitcoins it will be a bit risky for you also I don't think you will lose bitcoins any other way only if you buy bitcoins at high price to hold them for long time you might be in loss for some time but be sure. Even if you are in loss then you can definitely recover your investment later if you are in bitcoin investment and if you can buy and hold bitcoin at low price from the right market then you will definitely be in profit then you will never be in loss by buying bitcoin. But keep in mind that in Bitcoin you may be at a loss temporarily but remember that you will never lose all at once without being careless by investing in Bitcoin.

This is only true if you have no experience. For me, experience comes from many different sources. In the current 4.0 era, useful news and sharing are everywhere, so you can turn other people's experiences into your own, even though we're not really in the game yet. But it will partly help us avoid unnecessary mistakes from our predecessors, thereby making losses much less, and perhaps even not having to admit losses if you are well equipped with the knowledge and other people's experiences before actually investing.
No matter how solid an investment is, there is always a potential risk of loss, no investment is 100% sure to win. Even if you deposit savings in a bank, there is a risk of losing money, right? We can only reduce the risk rate by deeply and thoroughly understanding the field we invest in. Assess what its risk and return ratio is compared to other areas we can invest in such as real estate or stocks? The key is how much R/R do you accept? If you accept high Risk like this Cyrpto field, the Reward you will receive will definitely be higher than other fields, otherwise choose other safe fields like real estate and stocks. Don't look for any investment field with zero risk, it only exists in fraudulent projects. ;D


Individuals need to comprehend that all investments have their degrees of risk. Bitcoin can be much more or less unstable and volatile than other investments. This is why it is significant to be mindful before investing money. While losing in some cases is unavoidable, we can limit the gamble of losing assuming we know when to enter the market. Furthermore, for the new investors, draw in your mindsets the long-term potential of Bitcoin to avoid becoming emotional when you see the price going down.

Every beginner certainly feels worried when they see the market condition experiencing a decline and we have also felt the same thing when we just started investing a number of Bitcoins and it would be better for those who have just started investing a number of Bitcoins to have someone guide them to stay calm when they see the price. If it's going down, don't let them sell at a loss because they don't understand how Bitcoin works. When they have a lot of experience in investing and understand it well, of course they will be able to choose to survive this condition and will be able to take advantage of the investment they make.

Your friend saying are not at all bad. It cames true in some peoples life. Although there is no guarantee that it will happen to everyone, but I think almost all new investors face it, face losses in the beginning and after gaining experience through those losses, they understand the basic trading strategy. This happened in my own life too.In the beginning my investment journey started with altcoin investment but the experience of that investment was very bad. I am still bearing that loss. Moreover, when the market was in a bullrun, I invested in Bitcoin and I am currently holding that fund for recovery. However, I have understood one thing inside that if you want to invest in Bitcoin, you have to do it for long-term. I am currently following this strategy and making a monthly investment in Bitcoin using the dca method.

Not really necessary have to lose before getting profitable in bitcoin investment, I think if you good knowledge and learning more step in trading you don't need to lose first before get success in bitcoin trading. I think bad educate by every one had much experience in trading when sharing to the beginner must lose before becoming success earn profit in bitcoin investment.
If the beginner have good knowledge and understand well with investing in bitcoin why have to lose? actually experienced will be good teacher but not necessary get loss to earn profit later.
But don't fear losing or getting risk with bitcoin investment when price dropping, you need keep controlling your self for believing bitcoin price will bounce to higher price.

Now the price of Bitcoin is on the rise and has also crossed $48K which is generally what investors who have accumulated a lot of Bitcoin are looking for. Because those who have the courage to invest in Bitcoin must have already understood the risks of investing in Bitcoin and the level of profit that can be obtained through Bitcoin, so based on that knowledge, Bitcoin investors today have continued to increase over time at this time. So if there are still doubts about Bitcoin where the evidence is quite clear, of course such people still have to continue learning to understand how Bitcoin works in the market.

I will say definitely you are not talking about bitcoin investment, but it might be bitcoin trading, and even as that, it usually happens when you have no knowledge of how trading works, that is what will cause you to lose. If not, bitcoin is a forum for a low-income person, a rich person, and also a wealthy person. It is the most trusted firm to earn bitcoin in a long-term investment that will take some years before you can get a profit that you will find hard to believe.

Moreover, you said a question like that usually pops up in arguments and arguments is just like discussion done to be the winner of the arguments so false information can be given or understanding can't be done in and arguments, so investment in bitcoin is the best option. Because if you truly want to engage in a long-term investment, you will never lose. For instance, in the last two weeks, the price of bitcoin was less than $40,000, but today it is more than $47,000, so the price of bitcoin is usually popping up and down. If you really understand that, I see no reason why you will lose your money in bitcoin investment, but don’t be greedy; you should always invest what you can afford to lose.

Although having sufficient knowledge is important when it comes to investing, it does not guarantee immediate profits for beginners. While some people can make a profit, most struggle with applying their knowledge to generate returns. It is through experience that investors can improve their strategies and make better investment decisions in the future.

You may take loss before investing it may be only due to some personal mistake of yours especially before investing some important things must be mastered. Among these things you need to be informed about the experience of profit or loss. You have to accept that profit or loss is a mandatory rule for every business so you must prepare yourself mentally.
Greed must be discarded for investment and if overly emotional, investment must face losses instead of profits. For every business, both emotion and greed must be abandoned. Again, if there is a profit for the business, there must be a loss in that business.

Do you mean that investors should always have someone to comfort them every time the market declines? For most people, this may be an unnecessary action, as they are also busy with their lives. Instead, what investors should do is find out the reason for the sudden decline in their investment's price. Being informed can help one stay calm and know the next action they need to take.

Even if you do have those kind of learnings or ideas in mind but doesnt mean that you cant lose specially when investing to it. If we do speak about on other aspects like hacks and security issues then it would be always
reflecting out on someones responsibility because if you dont mind about the risks then you would really be just that confident with your coins safety. As we do speak about losing money in the sense you have
lost your position on investing or trading then this is something i should say that it would really be inevitable because we do know that there's no such thing about being a perfect trader or a perfect investor.

This is why on the time that you do step your foot into this market then it would really be just that right that you should really be that making yourself that getting prepared for whatever
things that you would be able to encounter on which we know that there would really be no assurance into this world if we do speak about money making thing.
Risks is always there and you should really accept that reality so that you wont really be finding  yourself to be that desperate.

Almost everyone has experienced losses when investing, but slowly we learn that losses can be minimized when we understand how to invest correctly. Both business and investment cannot be separated from losses, but as long as we know how to minimize them, it will be much easier, even though in general we are not able to stop them.

Greed is a problem so it becomes a disease that affects people's performance in thinking because the habit of greed will make someone make the wrong decision. In investing, greed is a big problem that must be avoided because there are many people who get caught up in this kind of thing so that in the end they experience losses based on making wrong decisions.

That's the thing, most people don't gain enough knowledge before entering the market and when they enter without ample knowledge and lose money, some will simply leave the market out of frustration and anger and others start making assumptions that they cannot win before losing in their cryptocurrency investments which has no reality at all. You don't need to lose money to learn something when it's already available for you to learn but it is your choice whether you want to learn it the easy way or the hard way.

If you have enough knowledge about trading and all the trading techniques and practices, you won't lose money when you enter the market, but if you do it the other way, which is to simply have your capital and start trading, you are most likely going to lose your money.

Just like any other investment, knowledge of crypto is important before diving into it. Do you close your eyes and drive and expect to drive safely without accident. Pretty simple answer... Just at present BTC is trading above $50k and if you are a novice and just enter the market without DYOR, there is a possibility that the market may dump on you if any major retracement should happen hence proper study is needed. However if you hold on tight even when the market retrace, you will definitely be bullish later if your investment is in Bitcoin and not some shitcoins

Experience will certainly be a very valuable lesson, being able to gain profits from Bitcoin investments is actually quite easy if we look at the price increase from previous years to the present. If someone believes in investing in Bitcoin for the long term, they can certainly avoid the losses they will experience. Unless Bitcoin is used for futures trading or focuses on daily trading, it is possible that someone will definitely face the risk of loss.

Perhaps you are right, many people lose something at first, this becomes an integral part of gaining experience in investing. And also, after the first failures, there will be those who decide to stop there, and will be those who continue will gain experience and will have a chance to make a profit in further investments. I am of the opinion that long term investing can only be applied to Bitcoin, if you want to trade altcoins it may be appropriate, but I would not hold them for the long term.

If in the sentence 'You must lose before you gain in Bitcoin investment' we mean that your investment will decline in fiat value because bitcoin is volatile, then yes, that's true, you might lose before you gain because it's almost impossible to buy Bitcoin at the lowest possible price, it fluctuates, sometimes goes up and down, it's very important to buy bitcoin in a price range where it's supported because if it's the range where bulls support and there is an upcoming bull market, you might see some lose for a while but you'll definitely see long-term gains.

Yes, it has to be straightened out to be interpreted correctly and something like that might happen. If we change the pattern and do short-term trading, of course there is such a risk due to market fluctuations, but if it is long-term and holds it for a long period, no matter how many corrections in the market, it will not make us is shaky because the principle has been previously established, namely that we invest in BTC for the long term, of course. 50K has been exceeded and is waiting for the moment when BTC creates its new ATH again.

Investing without losing is possible but you must have experience and strategy about bitcoin investing. If a person does not know the Bitcoin investment strategy then he can definitely lose. First you need to know about the volatility of the market If you understand about the volatility of the market then surely you can invest profit and also where you hold the investment must be safe. If a person buys and holds bitcoins at a very low price then I think that person can make a profit on the investment without losing, for example someone who bought bitcoins at $15,000 but suffered no losses has always been in profit. So always buy from deep market for investment if not possible better to invest using DCA method.

Some people lose money when they first start investing in bitcoin because they did not acquire it at the proper time, others buy bitcoin when they notice the price rising and simply invest for a short period of time. Since the price is rising, they will buy it and profit quickly, and then they will lose their funds when the price falls. Some newbies are very fortunate when they invest in bitcoin, and they will simply increase and profit from it. My first investment in bitcoin was most likely profitable because I had someone to guide me through it, and I kept it for 2 to 3 months until the price began to rise and I profitable on it and I believe if i leave for a long term I should have earned huge amount of profit. I don't enjoy selling coins in my portfolio right now because I need to meet my target first. Some of the coins and bitcoin I bought are currently declining in price, but I am confident that the price will soon rise, making the investment lucrative.

It depends how you invest in Bitcoin. If you only buy the coins you have the risk loosing money. There are derivatives strategies on BTC so that you can always make money. It is a zero risk construction.
Their are so many different constructions to make from zero risk till high risk, it depends how you want to invest in it.
Invest in BTC with no underlying strategy is pure gambling.

"You must lose" is a very generic statement, and it really depends on how you want to interpretate it. For me, losing money on bitcoin, it means that you are selling at loss, and then maybe you change your mind and weeks or even months later you decide to buy again, maybe even at a higher price at that point. For other people it means that you buy bitcoin at, let's say, $100, and the following day it drops to $90, so in a certain way you are losing money, but just in that specific time frame because if the following day it goes back to $100 you still have the same amount of money without doing any kind of operation.

When it comes to first time then it wont really be that shocking that there would really be those having those loses on which this is something which is a casual thing that could happen.
Neither you are noob or veteran there's no such thing about inevitable on losing trades, no matter how professional you are or experienced. The main difference in between two is that for those veterans
on which they do really know on what they are doing on which it isnt something that could be done by a noob. This is why on the time that these noobs becomes veterans then they would be the
ones who would really be that tried out to be compared with those newbies again and the cycle continues.

There's no way that you would be able to avoid loses when you are just starting up.Instead on making yourself that get disappointed and frustrated then it would really be just that wise that you should really
be making out decisions for you sustain and move forward instead.

If you know about bitcoin and have patience to hold it for longer then you can win without doubt but if you don't know and just want to become wealthy with bitcoin then I think even bitcoin will be risky for you as everything has certain rules and strategies which should must be followed in order to get fruitful achievements.

Cryptocurrency is a volatile market so it will not guaranteed success for you but you have to work hard and get knowledge to use different strategies to get profit from it. All those who are expert in crypto market have gained profit from bitcoin and I did not hear about anyone of them who loss money through bitcoin while holding it for longer period of time.

i only invest as a hedge always! most my other is in stocks

Buying bitcoin for long term investment is not risky, the risky behind it is where you save the bitcoin. If you buy in centralized exchange and leave them there, you are risking your money with exchanges that may go bankrupt or get hacked anytime.
Buying altcoin is more riskier than bitcoin. You don’t need any strategy to buy and hold bitcoin I don’t know why you are saying that investing without any strategy is gambling.

it is obvious that in cryptocurrency investment no one is island of knowledge into cryptocurrency investment because I know quite well that for you to gather more experience in cryptocurrency investment you must at least is experience four times lost so when you experience such that will give you another insight to comprehend the strategic way of investing in Bitcoin and it will make you to be time conscious so that we will not be able to lose in any of your investment so to loss in Bitcoin is one of the Education and the impact bitcoin created to whoever that is investor or to whoever that is coming to invest in Bitcoin and make profit

Yes, everything your friend said was true. That's all there is to investing in Bitcoin: you can either lose money quickly or, alternatively, learn more about it before making an investment to get more expertise. Due to the fact that a lot of beginners experience similar things, they can just start purchasing a large number of coins, even though they are certain of coins they purchase it will pump or not. They merely keep buying them without consulting others who have made investments in the past. The risk of Bitcoin is that if you can invest for lengthy periods of time, you can easily  lose your money.

That is why many of the high-ranking members here always given advised that anyone who truly wants to be a great investor should be patient and only invest money they can afford to lose, rather than investing with someone else's money.

Experiencing failure in the investments we make will make us more careful and learn well about the investments we make. After we learn about the mistakes we make, we will be better prepared to invest and will gain profits from the investments we make. Once we have satisfactory results from the investment, we will be very confident in our ability to be able to generate profits from the investment.

Every beginner who experiences failure at the beginning of course they have to re-learn the mistakes they made which made them lose in the investment they made because of a lack of knowledge and it is important for them to re-learn and keep trying with the experience they have which will make them successful in investing what they did.

Any investment or asset has risk, it would be wrong to say that bitcoin is risk-free. Bitcoin has made significant achievements and gained recognition in many countries, but compared to other traditional assets, it is still very young and unstable. Therefore, it can be said that its risk is much higher than the rest, so we should not be subjective in thinking that long-term investment in bitcoin is risk-free.


I agree with what he said, if you invest without knowledge, without strategy and only rely on luck or other people's advice, you are like gambling. Investing in bitcoin is the same, you will not be able to hold bitcoin long term and safely without basic knowledge or understanding of it. If that's not called gambling then what is it called?

I don't think that some people have to experience it in all cases, and there are others who have experienced huge profits in Bitcoin without experiencing losses in their capital. And those who experience it, in my opinion, are the rich people who are business people.

I mean the institutional investors who invested here in bitcoin secretly and are still holding it and still believe in it. But this is just my opinion anyway.

Little disagree with your opinion about long term investment in bitcoin is not too risk, actually all investment kinds short or long term always has each risk and depend on our self how to minimize risk with stop loss feature or reinvesting more during price have been dropped. You can memorize with bitcoin price last two years when drastically dropping under $20k as long term investment had get risk their values of assets investment decreasing drastically but get positive side become long term holding our assets can recovery as well possibility and bitcoin success return to to higher price give us much profitable.

Knowledge is most important factor to be success for investing in bitcoin, although bitcoin promising more excited price years by years we musk understand when the right or best time for investing in bitcoin and how much percent allocated investment every time get moment bitcoin in lower price. Some experience trader they left more than 50% preparing for buying back when bitcoin going dump and they can accumulate another lower price of bitcoin.

You don’t have to necessary loose before gaining in the bitcoin market. When you trade carefully and follow good signals you’ll be able to achieve more and loose less thereby promoting your skill of investment towards bitcoin

   Investing in Bitcoin is like riding a rollercoaster - it's got its ups and downs. Just like any investment, there are risks involved. Prices can be unpredictable, the value of Bitcoin can be highly volatile, and its price can fluctuate significantly. Factors such as market sentiment, regulatory developments, technological changes, and macroeconomic trends can influence Bitcoin's value. If the price of Bitcoin decreases after you invest, you may experience a loss on your investment. It's essential to be aware of these risks and carefully consider your risk tolerance and investment goals before investing in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency.
    It is important to also note that investing in any asset, including bitcoin, carries inherent risks. It is advisable to thoroughly research and understand the risks associated with bitcoin investments before committing any funds. Diversifying investments, setting realistic expectations, and consulting with a financial professional can also help mitigate risks when investing in cryptocurrencies.

This is why you should only invest what you could afford to lose.
You should remember that there would always be a risk in investment, there is no 100% sure win.
There are people who did gain on their first Bitcoin investment and losing is part of the journey, you should just use that experience to grow.

For long term holders I don't think we prioritize making profits from bitcoin right away expecially when the plan is to get up to 10 or 20 bitcoin over a long period of time, at this point dips becomes more favourable to us since we can use this opportunity to get more bitcoin at lower prices. I think k it depends on your approach and what you are doing, if you are trading then there is every tendency that you would make losses before you hone the skill and even as a professional you still make loses as some point. So i think this is not the case for everyone.

I don't believe that theory in bitcoin investment but it is possible in gambling or trading. Now in investment all depends on the time of the investment, it you invest when bitcoin price was high, then you have to what till the price again is higher than the time of purchasion. There is no loss in bitcoin investment unless you were in hurry to afraid to lose so you sell them in prematurely but if you are patient enough till the next bull market then you win all. And if you invest when the bitcoin price is low on the bear market then you are in the winning side of the journey and the investment.

But if you are in the trading side of the ecosystem then that is where your friends too is dragging the argument to because in trading it is not guaranteed that you must make profit and if you are inexperienced trader then your loses is guaranteed and you will learned from it before you can picked up to make profit but investment is not like that.

Then in gambling is just like the trading, in which there is no guaranteed to win. Is is 50/50. So it is only in investment that you don't lose but others you lose.

I think every one of us has made the same mistakes in our newbie days when it comes to Bitcoin/cryptocurrency.

Panic-selling, bad trading practices, accidentally sending to the wrong address and so on... I definitely made a few mistakes which cost me a lot of money in my early days but thanks to that, I will never repeat the same failures. I now know that hodling is the best and only way to succeed with Bitcoin.

I tend to look back on those losses as a kind of "fee" for learning Bitcoin.

Invest, but beware your fear might make you do something really dumb. 

All what you just mentioned depends on your thought towards bitcoin investment first cause if you start your investment with this mindset then you might sell so quick due to the fear and also the strategy you intend to use, bitcoin knowledge is broad and you can't learn about bitcoin in just one day. If you're the type that always sells quick and you never intend to buy and hold for long term regardless the price then you're causing more harm to your investment, I think this is the part when people say you lose to win in bitcoin investment. Don't get this statement wrong but it can easily affect any investor that fails to understand about bitcoin. Selling so quick is another factor that can affect investment plan but using the DCA strategy can help in terms of  buying with little amount gradually.

It's not really necessary that you must lose before gaining in a Bitcoin investment, as long as you have the experience and know what you are really doing,you can not lose investment on Bitcoin, except you are novies and you just want to invest because your friend are investing and making alot of profit and you think it is just to invest in Bitcoin and you start making your profit without no stress, meanwhile you have no knowledge about Bitcoin,i tell you someone of this nature can easily lose if he she invest in Bitcoin without having a good knowledge about Bitcoin,

Bitcoin investors are those who have a very good knowledge about Bitcoin and have study it and knows all the statistics, this are the people who can go into investments and make it without any form of lose,if there was no mistake in any angles, because Bitcoin requires a good and an experience person who have gone through it for long time and know the in and out of the investment in Bitcoin..

Not sure if this is necessary but what I do know is that knowledge and understanding is what will make us gaining in bitcoin and added to never become Greedy to make good decision each time.
so there is no need to lose first but of course if that happens then its a different ways.

It's probably the other way around because the more people are getting greedy that is most likely the better time where you could sell your investment for a possible profit, On the other way around when the market is down is a good opportunity to invest since the market is on slow market price and prices are definitely discounted.

Nothing is going to be guaranteed in this market especially it is cryptocurrency probably one of the riskiest investments that you could make if you are going to compare it to stocks and real estate. The more you know or learn about the market the less likely you're going to lose some of your investment for sure, it is a risky market but there are some ways where you could avoid losing your funds if you have a good strategy, Consider Dollar Cost Averaging as long as you are going to buy monthly or weekly and just sell your Bitcoin in the Bullrun it is going to be a profit. But it is definitely not guaranteed to earn a profit in the market, we dont know if Bitcoin could not exist anymore after 5 years if something comes up.