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I've been watching and reading a great deal about the individual who started the whole Bitcoin network.  It seems that Satoshi Nakamoto vanished shortly after Gavin Andresen replied with an email to Satoshi that he (Gavin) was going to visit with the CIA.  Almost like something out of a Hollywood movie and Satoshi disappeared just after the email? BTC

I don't think Gavin really have met with the CIA, It all lies in my humble opinion as there must be some other reason for Satoshi to fly away from the public eye, He might have died, or he might have been under some pressure from authorities that's why he is not coming in front of public, sometimes I wonder, the admins of this forum might be near to Satoshi so they must have know who satoshi is but if the Gavin who worked closely with Satoshi for a period of time did not knew him well then how the admins of this forum would be aware of him.

Well, what's the source of your statement, please provide that for further analysis of it.

Well, to be honest, hehe seems like you've encountered this whole scenario with your eye haha just kidding well, I don't know if all these are rumors or anything else with a bitter reality touch but it doesn't matter at all at least on the current level where Bitcoin is standing in the top assets. Sotoshi is alive or not can be a mystery and will be always a mystery. 

From the main o you mean the current admin theymos. I don't know really does he knows or not.

The endless questions of people who are curious with bigotry.

- Who created bitcoin ?- yep, Satoshi

- Who created Satoshi ?- Satoshi's father and mother

- Who created Satoshi's parents - ...

- Who created "earth" - ...

Perhaps the wrong perspective makes arguing about issues that really don't make much sense, many funny problems in life are also discussed with the logic of curiosity. To put it simply, we are all part of Satoshi, and Satoshi is us.

No one knows about the real situation or reason why he's gone and no experts or people still figure out his identity since until know his identity still a mystery. Also no closest proof can point out his identity and if you try to search it here you can read all purr speculation but nothing leads on his real foot tracks.

Searching his identity is really intriguing so if you are still interested to know some of details about it much better if you search more information in google and watch some documentary videos on youtube to have fun searching some leads and interesting informations happened before that you can discover for little back tracking of past activities happened before.

Op you would.have backup your story with some kind materials {sources} and as it is just plain saying without links. But that is not withstanding. Bitcoin was created as decentralized digital currency and it was meant nto be as anonymous to everyone and if it is in this nature then the creators of it should also be anonymous. Gavin Andresen is not different from other fabricated stories. Did Satoshi Nakamoto offended anyone when he was creating Bitcoin? No. So why Gavin Andresen would visit him with CIA. Well since the creation of Bitcoin, there different stories around it so this is one of them.

I COULD TELL THAT SATOSHI COULD BE STEVE JOBS

Satoshi Nakamoto made the best decision by going anonymous and disappearing into the thin air. If not for those decisions, the events of SEC and Feds generally will have targeted him and made him to shut down the network he built. 

We have to admit that he remains a legend in his choice of approach towards achieving Bitcoin network and currency even though he has to be gone forever

It’s something you ain’t going to find out today or ever even in cryptospace. You can’t even tell if it’s an individual or some organization but, you could as well keep calm about the pseudo nature of Satoshi Nakamoto and learn about;

what is Bitcoin,
how it’s utilized,
how to remain private about running your wallet and all, and
how not to get scammed as well.

These are of the most importance to you than looking out for;
What could be the real nature of Satoshi.
You would be waiting precious time that could serve you better.
While I would be so bold to tell you that I don’t know whom or what nature Satoshi might be, I would like you to know that, it sure ain’t Craig S. Wright.

No one knows and there has been no new developments in this case, so it's pointless to discuss it. Satoshi is an anonymous individual or even a group of people and there's no strong clues to their identity, and the weak clues like posting schedule or writing style don't mean much. For now assume that we'll never learn Satoshi's true identity.

I think after 13 years of speculation about Nakamoto, it's time for all of us to just appreciate Bitcoin for what it is today. 

I used to really wonder who was hiding behind that pseudonym, but at this point does it really matter?  Bitcoin has taken on a life of its own and impacted so many people regardless of who invented it. The creator was brilliant, no doubt, but Bitcoin has become bigger than any one person now.

Nobody knows who is or are Satoshi Nakamoto.

The first on chain peer-to-peer transaction is between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney so there is a conspiracy theory that Hal Finney is Satoshi Nakamoto. However, Hal Finney denied it and he already passed away years ago.

Satoshi's lesson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092492.0)
Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)

More documents on investigation about Satoshi Nakamoto
I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0)

Elon

The human curiosity will never be satisfied and for that reason I believe that we'll never get rid of this questions that asks the identity of the founder of the ever glorious bitcoin, come to think of it, what if the reason behind the full anonymity of Satoshi is because he/she/they want it to look like the story of Christianity, we don't really know who's the creator and we just call him God and we are also in doubt if he's in existence to some degree, and while I'm typing this, it does look like Christianity maybe even religion itself because we're trying to prove or discover who's behind the pseudonym but unlike religion, we have a full certainty that Satoshi does exist.

And what's the connection between the question in the title and the opening post?

This question has been asked countless of times. It will probably be asked in the next googol years, but it will end up just the same, a pointless guessing game.

The more you raise this question, the more the answer will be irrelevant. At this point, after all those years of investigating who Satoshi Nakamoto is, nobody will take guesses seriously anymore. People would casually guess that Satoshi is Hal Finney, Nick Szabo, Dorian Nakamoto, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Jim Carrey, Jo Koy, and so on and so forth. But all this won't matter anymore.

Can Satoshi shut down bitcoin? Although he is its creator, I think he does not have enough authority to shut down bitcoin. Bitcoin is owned by the entire community and shutting it down requires consensus from everyone. So even if Satoshi existed, the government, FBI, and CIA would not be able to change bitcoin. It's good for him that he's anonymous, otherwise he'd be accused of creating bitcoin, a decentralized currency that makes it very difficult for governments to control it.

Bitcoin network runs by Bitcoin miners and Bitcoin full nodes. Satoshi Nakamoto can not shut it down and no single government can shut it down because Bitcoin network is decentralized. To shut it down, it must be a massive global effort from many governments or all governments to shut down the Bitcoin network.

They have to block access to download Bitcoin Core and other Bitcoin wallet softwares too.

https://bitcoin.org/en/download

This is very big task and it can not be completed in my opinion.

Nobody seems to have a good understanding of who Satoshi is. The CEO of JP Morgan basically says that Satoshi might come back and increase the supply of bitcoin. Basically he doesn’t understand that even if he did come back, he wouldn’t be able to increase the supply.

Only way to do that would be to rewrite the code and have a hard fork which no one would run since it would cause chaos pretty much. This happened in the past with the other bitcoin fork coins but the original is the one with the most work and valid chain.

What if all the countries block access to the internet or decide to block Bitcoin? If only one country allows Bitcoin and there are a couple of running nodes, Bitcoin will survive. I don't think all the countries will agree to ban or block Bitcoin. Some countries are working on adopting Bitcoin and companies adopting Bitcoin as well. If only El Salvador does not agree to ban Bitcoin, it's enough for Bitcoin to be active. We don't need 15K active nodes. Indeed more blocks make the network stronger. But that does not mean we need them to keep running Bitcoin. The government can't shut down Bitcoin. Or else, they could have done this a decade ago when Bitcoin was slowly growing. They were unable to shut it down back then, now it's not possible anymore.

Why do I feel that those who are sitting in the top position of a financial institution are the biggest morons? After reading what the CEO of JP Morgan I am certain that they are one of the biggest clueless morons. I am surprised by how they handle their software development department, I mean with such mentality and understanding they would destroy the developers. This is the reason why these institutions are getting bashed by the normal public or users of that institution.

What email exactly? It would have count if there is a link to back up this claim, I don't want to know who Satoshi Nakamoto really is, what he build can only work if he vanished like he did, creating something decentralized is like making enemy with the Government, you want to stay around if you build something like this OP?

Many people don't care either, not even the investors, as you can see many people use Centralized exchange to store their Bitcoin up till today, they just don't care about what Decentralization is all about, they only want to make money from holding Bitcoin and they are holding it wrongly, even after all the crashes of popular crypto exchanges, they still don't care.

JP Morgan is a big idiot for saying that Satoshi can come back some day and increase the max supply if Bitcoin, this shows how stupid these people are, judging something they have no clue about.

Not so sure;


Nobody knows who Satoshi is and this means nobody knows about any plans Satoshi might have. As far as I understand there are likely about 1 million bitcoins undrr Satoshi control.

If Satoshi is dead and the private keys to the 1 millions bitcoins are gone - fine

If Satoshi is alive and has the private keys - that could cause some issues, just for example if Satoshi starts to suffer from mental health issues and gets funny ideas...

Just saying...

That made me laugh a little, JP Morgan is a true believer of Satoshi Nakamoto, like Jesus Christ, he will rise again. I don't know how will Satoshi even do that kind of thing, there's no way that you can sneak past the validators and create a new batch of bitcoins to be mined and forks have happened before as you've said and what happened to those forks, they're pretty much abandoned. I do believe that Satoshi is someone that's read about the financial institutions and saw that there's a lot of things that's needed to be done to dismantle the exploitative system and he's probably someone that won't back down and so he created bitcoin. @Keawe said it best, it wouldn't matter if he would sell his bitcoins, whatever's going to happen when Satoshi dumps that millions of bitcoin is something that the market can bounce back, this project of Satoshi already has it's own life and he's not going to be able to terminate it no matter.

We know that Satoshi was the founder of Bitcoins. He didn’t want the credits later on and still no one has known the real identity of him. He willingly not revealing it or unable to prove if he/she is Satoshi or not still not known to many of us. We should not complain I would say about his identity, rather we should enjoy his amazing creation and make profits from it.

I think it's the mystery that will stay unsolved forever. He did everything to hide himself.

No one really knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is and I can even bet that his own parents never knew that Satoshi Nakamoto had the great work he had created. This has been asked thousands of times on forums and perhaps there is always no accurate answer regarding who is he with? If today someone with a name like that still existed, perhaps he would be the most sought after man in the whole world and what's even more amazing is that his identity has never been spread to the public under a pseudonym or his real name. Regarding the email that Gavin Andresen sent, there is no representation that Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared because he talked about visiting the CIA.

In fact if you look at the sophistication of technology, it is not impossible that the name could be revealed because the CIA has quite sophisticated tools in investigating cases that have occurred. But in fact it can never be proven who the owner of the Bitcoin work is and for me that's a little strange if you understand what I want to convey.

We all know that Satoshi is the founder of bitcoin and since when bitcoin was created Satoshi have been anonymous that nobody can even give details about his whereabout. Some people who have tried to know who Satoshi is, the more they the more they confuse and ended up meeting people who are disguising to be Satoshi. Their is no need to even know who Satoshi is, Satoshi has given us bitcoin which we can tell the goodness of bitcoin,  we just need to focus on bitcoin to enjoy the profit in it than trying to figure out who Satoshi is and at the end we will not still know who Satoshi is.

He surely didn't appreciate the invitation to the NSA, but I doubt that was the reason of his departure. In case you didn't know, that was their last conversation: http://gavinandresen.ninja/eleven-years-ago-today. 

Hardforking creates an altcoin. Even if the overwhelming majority of the Bitcoin userbase switched to that hypothetical hardfork, it wouldn't really be Bitcoin.

But indeed he has gift us with the biggest digital asset of the time. we all seeing many rumours like many are pretended that they have met stoshi nakomata i was watching such kind of video on social media a person was pretended to be stoshi nakomata.

Thus, this is the fact this mystery remain mystery but before going away he have gifted world with the biggest digital asset.

There are somethings that there are never going to be an answer to it. And one of those things is Satoshi Nakamoto, even if someone comes up today and say I'm Satoshi Nakamoto nobody is going to believe him. Bitcoin is now bigger than whoever created it and it has now become a world wide something which no one can lay a claim to it. The best answer to who is Satoshi Nakamoto will be Bitcoin!! Whenever anyone ask who is Satoshi Nakamoto people should answer Bitcoin.

Yes, I also think like that, nothing can stop Bitcoin's growth, let alone close it, unless the end of the world has come. Apart from that, I think Satoshi Nakamoto is not necessarily just one person, but rather a small team behind him in the past. Even if there is someone currently holding the most Bitcoin, I don't think he should tell because Secret is good at this. let alone Satoshi Nakamoto, he prefers not to be named. Because from the beginning the principle of bitcoin was anonymity, freedom. So it's not surprising that there are so many questions like this now that we as a crypto community need to stop. The essence of Bitcoin is that there is no single leader, but people are constantly looking to pin it on someone. Just look a few times, many people claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

Satoshi Nakamoto is the man behind Bitcoin. The master minder of financial crisis solution. A tech guru, the financial saviour. The man that made millions of poor people to be rich. And also an anonymous or abstract like air. You can feel his presence but can't see see or touch him.

 Do I have to believe that was a threat from Gavin to Satoshi @ OP? Indeed I would love to read that mail article and I would appreciate if you can serve us link to it.
Meanwhile with the benefits of doubts, Does it then mean the said Satoshi has been on a run away from the CIAs? Or could it be that after much consultations as investigations from the CIAs,  could they may have insisted that he (Satoshi) should remain anonymous maybe the intelligences may have foresighted the potentials and influences of Bitcoin to the societies and how it could expose him to insecurities?
If yes, could it may have been the reason why we  also the Bitcoin Brokers have adopted the system of anonymities?
Maybe could be and anyone in relative to Bitcoin whether to buy or sell could also be a one firmed Blockchain relative circles.



Maybe that yes and that could be why @bluebit25 logically in a structuring union uttered that  We are all Satoshi and so Satoshi is also us.
What a marvelous analysis. Wow!

Sharing information is one thing, right to privacy another.  Don't mix them up.  If Satoshi wanted their identity known, they wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to hide it and  even with everything available, no one's turned up a solid lead yet.  

Sure Bitcoins open-source.  Had to be for people to trust it.  Without this transparency, it's unlikely that people would have accepted it.

Whoever Satoshi is is not my business, and it's not even something I should be worried about. As long as his creation doesn't have any central control, I will need his identity in case anything goes wrong in the network.
 
We are all making use of bitcoin, and bitcoin is serving its purpose in the little way that it can, and that's enough for me. Creating that mindset of wondering who Satoshi is and who he could be will just end up keeping me in a dilemma state, which is what I don't need right now.
 
Many people have tried to solve this mystery, and it all leads to a dead end. Most of us have read countless stories, some of which even lead to a court case, and at the end of the day, there is always no positive result for what or who claims to be him.


Maybe the OP is referring to  Gavin will visit the CIA  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.msg97181#msg97181)  and this  Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412846.msg4473814#msg4473814)

If you have spent a little time in the forum, at least in the profile of Satoshi, you will notice that from the beginning he started with covering his tracks; he left no trace or personal contact information that he could be reached with, and that's fine. Whoever he was in communication with for whatever reason in his time here on the forum was via PM, and those messages might have already been wiped out by both parties, which is the best thing to do.
 
Talking about teaching him in this forum, we can all see that his account has been inactive since his departure, which means even if you send him a PM, he won't get to read them because he won't risk coming online here to get those PMs as his IP might be traced back to him. I will advise you to just pull all these questions popping out of your head aside because the puzzles were correctly calculated right from the beginning to make sure that no one can uncover anything in the future that will lead back to him.

it matters to know Satoshi because Bitcoin ETF is just the start. if the world shifts to the Bitcoin standard because the big banks are already accepting BTC i think Satoshi coming out and claiming his millions of BTC makes his country the largest shareholder.

BTC is too big to not talk about who Satoshi is. it's like we are being shut up. now compare this to the CBDC which has never been talked about on TV while more than 100 countries are developing them.

Tell me please, why would anyone from the forum contact Satoshi Nakamoto after he went missing? What do you think they should have written to him? Hi, how are you, where did you disappear to? Like this? And you think he'd just reply right away? That's naive.

I have not heard of this part about why Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared from the face of the earth unnoticed. This could be true but I don’t think so either. The decentralised nature of bitcoin will be at cost if Satoshi Nakamoto will still be known today. Many people think his disappearance was the best for bitcoin to thrive till today. With the way bitcoin has moved from inception till now, if he never went offline and left an untraceable clue to himself, he would have been clamped down by now and this technology will not survive till today. Satoshi Nakamoto still remain unknown and that is amongst what is making this technology to maintain its decentralised nature and still alive today. In as much as I want to know the face behind this great technology, if it will cost bitcoin to stop existing or expanding, I would wish to now know him and he should remain anonymous forever.

Are there still people who ask this kind of question ? like don't you have Google in your devices? google is your friend and if what you read about him isn't enough you can go find him yourself and when you do so help me say hi!

I keep wondering why people still wants to know who Satoshi is when they have heard that he disappeared for over a decade now and yet governments can't find him. Is it just an individual that is supposed to know him? Well I don't really care to know him but since I'm using his invention I only got to appreciate his work than ask questions that don't have answers.

Google is very powerful search engine but it can not answer all questions. Because they only have power to collect available information and even a stronger engine like ChatGPT, AI only can summarize information they have.

If Satoshi Nakamoto joined and left without trace, there is no available trace for Google, ChatGPT to give us an answer about identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.

I am quite sure that every beginner in Bitcoin market will be very curious who is/ are Satoshi Nakamoto. It is very normal curiosity because if they are responsible with their capital, they will have that reasonable question.

This question is only abnormal for people who were already in this market for some years and still need to know identity of Satoshi Nakamoto or they only try to bring this question back to the world, to fud the market.

You will never find the answer to the question of who Satoshi Nakamoto is. The direction and intent of this question proves that Satoshi Nakamoto once lived in this world, as proof that he has left something valuable to humans in various parts of the world, especially those who believe Bitcoin is a profitable asset. Anyone can claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto because Satoshi's real identity is still anonymous. Even though the Real Satoshi revealed his true identity, it is very difficult for Bitcoiners or the general public to believe this claim without real evidence such as showing the original Whitpaper Bitcoin document and its private key.