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Title: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: shadypepe on March 29, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: lucazane on March 29, 2014, 01:48:50 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour
I will turn the light off in the mining room !


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: shadypepe on March 29, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour
I will turn the light off in the mining room !

haha i like that


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: g3raint on March 29, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
My miners and household electricity will be off for 1 hour tonight @ 8:30pm GMT :)

4.6kw for 1 hour  (about 0.028 BTC less for the day)

G


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Just another idiotic example of symbology over substance.

I'm pretty sure the Earth is going to survive whether I turn my lights off or not for an hour.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: MiningSensei on March 29, 2014, 02:09:55 PM
Heh I sleep during that time but I'll definetly take an hour today to turn off my miners so that I can clean the dust off of them :)  True that it won't do anything in the grand scheme of things but it is a nice gesture.  They probably did a ton of work to get those cities aboard but they could have been putting that into getting websites to use darker designs for a pledged amount of time and gotten more energy savings out of it.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: b!z on March 29, 2014, 02:10:38 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour
I will turn the light off in the mining room !
You can turn off the fan too ::)


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: TrillionBTC on March 29, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
We not only have the lights off in the mining room we have over 30 hamsters running in their wheels that are connected to hand crank electric generators producing electricity for the miners. Hey I feed and clean up after those hamsters so the least they can do is help provide for the household.

Additionally my wife and I know that our city uses an electric pump to deliver the water to our home so to conserve electricity and water we take showers together in the dark.  ;D


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
We not only have the lights off in the mining room we have over 30 hamsters running in their wheels that are connected to hand crank electric generators producing electricity for the miners.

Careful, don't want PETA coming after you! ;)


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: shadypepe on March 29, 2014, 04:13:22 PM
i'm gonna make a poll. if a lot of people switch their miners off, i'm gonna put extra ones on to profit from lower overall hashrate


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: GreekBitcoin on March 29, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
Earth hour is not only retarded but also dangerous. It makes people psychologically think they have actually made their part in saving environment just by closing lights for an hour. That may keep them from doing something that actually helps environment and most importantly from politically addressing the problem...


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: shadypepe on March 29, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
poll is online, please vote!


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 04:29:28 PM
I know the poll is tongue in cheek, but I don't like the use of the word "hate".

Too many people reshape public opinion on the basis that anyone who is against "them" are by definition "hateful".  It wouldn't bother me that much, but it is too effective and keeps people from thinking objectively.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 04:32:05 PM
That may keep them from doing something that actually helps environment and most importantly from politically addressing the problem...

Do you think this "problem" really needs to be addressed "politically"?

The last thing we need is more government obstacles motivated by political maneuvering.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: TrollboxChamp on March 29, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
Worst poll options ever ???


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: shadypepe on March 29, 2014, 05:23:01 PM
I know the poll is tongue in cheek, but I don't like the use of the word "hate".

Too many people reshape public opinion on the basis that anyone who is against "them" are by definition "hateful".  It wouldn't bother me that much, but it is too effective and keeps people from thinking objectively.


haha please ignore the second part if it bothers you that I formulated it in a blunt way. just wanted to get a quick overview and yes and no seemed boring


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: samson20min on March 29, 2014, 06:00:47 PM
I'll invest today's mined bitcoins in green energy devices. Make sense?


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: jackedwhite on March 29, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
Just another idiotic example of symbology over substance.

I'm pretty sure the Earth is going to survive whether I turn my lights off or not for an hour.

"Symbology" can lead to increased awareness.it can also give people an excuse to do nothing more. It has nothing to do however with the earth not surviving because of the lights turned off.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 10:42:08 PM
Just another idiotic example of symbology over substance.

I'm pretty sure the Earth is going to survive whether I turn my lights off or not for an hour.
It has nothing to do however with the earth not surviving because of the lights turned off.

Sounds like it to me.  Culled from the Wikipedia article

"encouraging individuals, communities, households and businesses to turn off their non-essential lights for one hour as a symbol for their commitment to the planet"


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 10:44:17 PM
Just another idiotic example of symbology over substance.

I'm pretty sure the Earth is going to survive whether I turn my lights off or not for an hour.

"Symbology" can lead to increased awareness.

Awareness of what, exactly?

And what benefit would said awareness be?


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: ccplz on March 29, 2014, 10:47:35 PM
Damn,that 3rd poll option was spot-on.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: os2sam on March 29, 2014, 10:48:24 PM
I know the poll is tongue in cheek, but I don't like the use of the word "hate".

Too many people reshape public opinion on the basis that anyone who is against "them" are by definition "hateful".  It wouldn't bother me that much, but it is too effective and keeps people from thinking objectively.


haha please ignore the second part if it bothers you that I formulated it in a blunt way. just wanted to get a quick overview and yes and no seemed boring

Bluntness I have no problem with.

I can disagree with people who have different opinions or values than I do without hating them.  Hopefully they can too, and I'm sure many do.  I really doubt the hash rate will fall though.  Plus I don't have anymore hashing hardware to bring to bear.  So none of those options apply to me.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: timk225 on March 30, 2014, 03:31:42 PM
The entire concept of "earth hour" is a farce, it's nothing more than something for liberal democrat politicians to make a speech about, showing how much they care about the environment and to buy votes to get re-elected to their easy jobs that get them lots of bribe and kickback money.  Then they hop on their private jets to go to the next earth hour speech somewhere else.  Just like Al Gore.

I'm not turning anything off or down.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Marduk on April 01, 2014, 04:38:15 AM
They probably did a ton of work to get those cities aboard but they could have been putting that into getting websites to use darker designs for a pledged amount of time and gotten more energy savings out of it.

This is not true anymore.  CRT monitors use less energy to display black.  LCD screens can actually use more energy to display black.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-black-is/

Quote
CRT monitors, which until a few years ago were the predominant models among PC users, consume more power when a computer screen is white. To confirm this, Schindler measured the energy output of an 18-inch (45.7-centimeter) CRT monitor and found it used 102 watts when the screen was white but only 79 watts when the display was black.

This is not the case, however, with LCD monitors, which have no phosphors and represent the lion's share of every new monitored purchased in the developed world, including those used by laptops. Instead, LCD displays rely on an array of thin-tube fluorescent bulbs that provide a constant source of light to create a white screen. To make it black, LCDs rely on a diffuser to block this light. As a result, LCDs use more energy than CRTs to display a black screen. Measuring a 17-inch (43-centimeter) LCD monitor, Schindler found that white required 22.6 watts, while black came in a tad higher at 23.2 watts. With a 20-inch (50.8-centimeter) LCD, black required 6 percent more energy than white.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: STT on April 01, 2014, 05:29:23 AM
Mining represents energy saving, its alot less resources consumed then sending out a money truck or doping out some cotton for dollar bills.   Its all comparative


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: troy112 on April 01, 2014, 05:40:53 AM
Well to be true it would be a good oppertunity as you pointed hash power will be lower. But my mind would not agree to it, so I would be shutting done the mining... You know I love my mother earth :p


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Operatr on April 05, 2014, 12:27:49 AM
Earth Hour is idiotic, the only way to actually help the Earth is to permanently reduce your environmental impact. For miners that comes in the form of using renewable energy sources like solar power and using the most efficient equipment possible.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: GodfatherBond on April 06, 2014, 06:53:53 PM
Solar & wind powered mining is the way to go if you care about these things.
Unfortunately at these prices there's no point to start building... but might be just interesting project even if it covers just a fraction of used electricity.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: icet208 on April 06, 2014, 08:05:40 PM
I will turn everything off except the miner:D


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Maharaja on April 06, 2014, 08:09:49 PM
No, I don't care, but I'm not mining either. I just don't believe in the Earth Hour bullcrap.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 07, 2014, 06:01:08 PM
I voted option 3 because I'm an honest person, and ain't that the truth!    8)


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Gator-hex on April 09, 2014, 10:52:45 PM
Beware enviro-mentalists!

Hitler was an environmentalist...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

...and he managed to kill millions...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Holocaust

...which sure helped reduce man made CO2... the air humans breathe out!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathing

do they want a breathing tax or depopulation? Both thoughts scare me!

I mine Bitcoin to give humanity the choice to be free from debt backed money (bondage/slavery).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKob3fGSm9o

I think that is a noble cause worthy of a bit of electricity. I might be a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: LAMarcellus on April 10, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
Humans certainly are having an impact on the planet.
We divide natural habitats with hot black stinky roads with death machines whizzing thru all hours of the day.
We induce disease in other species thru radiation, chemicals, capture and corn-feeding.
We de-forest, pollute water, desertify, and replace nature with concrete.

How will we solve this?!?

1. Earth hour.
2.  ???
3. World peace and perfect harmony with nature.




Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: lightlord on April 12, 2014, 02:51:03 AM
See I did things differently from anyone here.

I spent a good day tweaking and under volting all my cards on that day.
Saving a big chunk of power, so on Earth hour I did partially participate


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: crocko on April 12, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
Humans certainly are having an impact on the planet.
We divide natural habitats with hot black stinky roads with death machines whizzing thru all hours of the day.
We induce disease in other species thru radiation, chemicals, capture and corn-feeding.
We de-forest, pollute water, desertify, and replace nature with concrete.

How will we solve this?!?

1. Earth hour.
2.  ???
3. World peace and perfect harmony with nature.




"We" = big greedy companies NOT common people like me ! I don't have a big bank account or I don't drive a Porsche !


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: cech4204a on April 13, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
There is obvious clash of minds here. Bitcoin is beeing mined by people having a LOT of mining power, read, they have money, and by mining, they want even more money, so they can not afford them selves to stop mining. There is also link with the value ->if you don't mine fast, your equipment will get old and useless, so it's not gonna be profitable. Mining is aimed to be set 24/7, so earth hour and every other B.S. is not gonna work here.




Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Liquid71 on April 16, 2014, 08:15:39 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour

No I hate tree hugging hippy-crits FTW


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: DubFX on April 16, 2014, 08:30:00 AM
That third option...dammit guys you are mean.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: crowning on April 16, 2014, 06:12:20 PM
I'll point my miners to an Earthcoin pool for one hour!


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Bagus23 on April 16, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
I'll repoint my miners to an Earthcoin pool for one hour!

sounds fair. LOL

Yes, but I'm gonna play Battlefield on the on all GPUs instead. LOL


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: phillipsjk on April 16, 2014, 06:24:31 PM
I used to turn off all the lights and play board games by a 6W flood-light. Then I calculated that recharging the batteries at 4W for 14 hours uses about the same amount of energy as drawing 60W for an hour :P


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Danglez2907 on April 17, 2014, 05:16:57 AM
A total farce.

Candles create more CO2 than it takes to power a comparative sized light-bulb.

More bullshit from the climate change loonies..

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2014/03/the-chemistry-of-earth-hour-1-candle-x-1-hour-8-x-the-co2-from-1-lightbulb-x-1-hour.html (http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2014/03/the-chemistry-of-earth-hour-1-candle-x-1-hour-8-x-the-co2-from-1-lightbulb-x-1-hour.html)


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: cozk on April 17, 2014, 12:53:13 PM
Not only that, electricity can't be stored.

If big amount is not used by the distribution network its simply lost/wasted.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: spazzdla on April 17, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
Not 1 single F**k, Earth hour is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.  Our fractional banking and need for constant consumer spending to feed the beast is what drives the destruction of this planet.  Fracking for example... the presuit of profit with zero regard for anything.  The banksters should all be hung.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 17, 2014, 05:32:14 PM
     No as the real solution is very simple.  Only have oral sex  for the next 10 years.

    If  100%  of us committed to this idea.

  It would stop the major problem which is too many people and not enough resources.


 Not only pain free it would feel good.. for both  you and your loved one.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: phillipsjk on April 22, 2014, 03:22:21 AM
Not only that, electricity can't be stored.

If big amount is not used by the distribution network its simply lost/wasted.

Energy can be stored. The catch is that power storage plants must cost at least as much as an equivalent generator (since they need to go into generation mode to return power to the grid).

One example in sevice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricity).

Ironically, Nuclear power needs power storage almost as much as solar/wind energy. (Nuclear power can supply the "base load" while other plants spin-down off-peak.)



Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: timtech on April 22, 2014, 07:52:39 AM
I'll say an extra hippie tree hugger pray to Mother Earth instead. My miners will be hashing full steam ahead.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: g3raint on April 22, 2014, 09:54:24 PM
Solar panels throughout the day could recharge the battery :)

but at how much cost to manufacture the solar panel......


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Lauda on April 22, 2014, 10:31:31 PM
Sorry, no.
Mining Bitcoin is worth it.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 22, 2014, 11:12:59 PM
Earth hour is not only retarded but also dangerous. It makes people psychologically think they have actually made their part in saving environment just by closing lights for an hour. That may keep them from doing something that actually helps environment and most importantly from politically addressing the problem...

Yep, that's the way this crap always works.

Somebody has done precisely nothing, but they have shown other people how much they care. That way, they can pat themselves on the back for doing something, and then they don't do anything of any real value.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: enpott on April 23, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
during Earth hour , i stop mining .


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: sgk on April 23, 2014, 08:07:16 AM
Earth hour. does anyone mining care?

Now that's the question


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Aureum_Coffee on April 26, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
We are suffering from global cooling.  So please, continue to mine and generate heat.   :P


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Rinndaranaur on April 26, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
making conclusion of the poll, the hippie times passed  :(


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: elavenil on April 27, 2014, 02:53:07 AM
Everyday i stop my mining for 2-3 hours. So i have no problem to stop my mine foe one hour.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 27, 2014, 03:09:00 AM
Everyday i stop my mining for 2-3 hours. So i have no problem to stop my mine foe one hour.

Why is that, may I ask?


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: elavenil on April 27, 2014, 03:32:00 AM
Our country weather is very hot. To save my mining units i switch off 15 minutes for every 2-4 hours.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 27, 2014, 05:03:44 AM
Our country weather is very hot. To save my mining units i switch off 15 minutes for every 2-4 hours.

Ah, okay, it's a heat issue. I would have been really surprised if it were an Earth hour issue. HA!


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: gagalady on April 27, 2014, 07:26:07 AM
Noone really gives a shit, reverse everyone would turn on all their miners because of overall hash rate lower like mentioned in the poll. But Myself I would turn It out atleast for few minutes!


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 27, 2014, 03:41:35 PM
Our country weather is very hot. To save my mining units i switch off 15 minutes for every 2-4 hours.

On that note, do you have some idea how long it takes them to cool to ambient temperature?

For example, are they at ambient after 15 minutes, or is that just a short break? Conversely, are they at ambient after 5 minutes, and you give them 10 extra minutes?

Summer is coming, so I would be interested in your experience.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 27, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
 Yes I care and I started a thread that may help


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=586589.0


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: STT on April 28, 2014, 01:47:38 AM
Its worth saying that not all crypto coins require mining like bitcoin does.  So if you wanted to own a coin or operate a network without using up alot of electricity or resources you could decide to opt for proof of stake rather then proof of work which btc uses to great expense.

Im not certain mining is essential, if not then this could be the ultimate saving.  I apologise if this is sacrilegious :p


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: left-ca on April 28, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
i turned mine off


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: mikeza43 on April 28, 2014, 10:02:17 AM
i will turn off my monitor hue hue


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: phillipsjk on April 28, 2014, 03:28:43 PM
Our country weather is very hot. To save my mining units i switch off 15 minutes for every 2-4 hours.

On that note, do you have some idea how long it takes them to cool to ambient temperature?

For example, are they at ambient after 15 minutes, or is that just a short break? Conversely, are they at ambient after 5 minutes, and you give them 10 extra minutes?

Summer is coming, so I would be interested in your experience.

I was able to measure the heat dissipation of a room by measuring the change in temperature after leaving 120W of lighting on. For that I assumed the temperature outside the room was stable (kept at 20°C by a thermostat in the winter).

If turning the the equipment off for 15  minutes every 3 hours helps, I would just underclock the machine by ~8% It would save on heating/cooling cycles.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 28, 2014, 07:00:18 PM
On that note, do you have some idea how long it takes them to cool to ambient temperature?

For example, are they at ambient after 15 minutes, or is that just a short break? Conversely, are they at ambient after 5 minutes, and you give them 10 extra minutes?

Summer is coming, so I would be interested in your experience.
I was able to measure the heat dissipation of a room by measuring the change in temperature after leaving 120W of lighting on. For that I assumed the temperature outside the room was stable (kept at 20°C by a thermostat in the winter).

If turning the the equipment off for 15  minutes every 3 hours helps, I would just underclock the machine by ~8% It would save on heating/cooling cycles.

Given the open build of these things, do you think the cycles matter that much?

Are the chips that frageelay?


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Lauda on April 28, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Mine have been turned off for most of April. Earth month for me.. oh wait, this was only due to technical difficulties over the whole operation.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 28, 2014, 08:57:04 PM
Mine have been turned off for most of April. Earth month for me.. oh wait, this was only due to technical difficulties over the whole operation.

I applaud your Earth month efforts...oh wait, I hope you fix the technical difficulties.

This Earth, she needs a warmin'.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: Lauda on April 28, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Mine have been turned off for most of April. Earth month for me.. oh wait, this was only due to technical difficulties over the whole operation.

I applaud your Earth month efforts...oh wait, I hope you fix the technical difficulties.

This Earth, she needs a warmin'.
I just need time. Until I get this sorted, I'm saving a lot of electricity.


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: tesene on April 29, 2014, 05:03:01 AM
An hour with the miners turned off.  That would be one nervous hour!!


Title: Re: Earth hour. does anyone mining care?
Post by: brush242 on April 29, 2014, 03:10:57 PM
An hour with the miners turned off.  That would be one nervous hour!!

As in worrying if they would start again? Why wouldn't they?

They aren't a life support system. HA!