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Title: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fullbear2222 on February 06, 2024, 11:39:13 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Plaguedeath on February 06, 2024, 12:24:52 PM
We're live in zero sum games, so it means when there's a rich people, there's also the poor ones. You can't make every poor people to rank up to middle class, when it happens the country's standard will increase and the current "middle class people" might still "the poor" according to their new standards.

Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Good initiative, the police will catch you because you're issuing your own currency when your government didn't accept your currency as legal tender.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
It's stupid, you need to buy their stock instead of holding fiat.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: naira on February 06, 2024, 01:03:03 PM
So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
So where do you take the utility from when they have to use a community based currency? because in terms of the financial system, they need back-up, recognition, and legal legality so that the value of the public currency is guaranteed, not only for transactions, but to prove the support for this value must also be clear. You won't necessarily create community money if you can't guarantee its value yourself. Moreover, if you live in a country that has recognized fiat then it would be very futile, it would be the same as trying to stage a coup by creating new money and could be considered a violation of misuse of resources.

I don't know where your idea came from but the fact is that the proposed solution won't work. OK, to prove it, do an experiment first and prove that your solution is indeed the answer to the problem that is currently occurring. Don't give misleading solutions to those who are already experiencing difficulties. If you yourself can't prove the success of creating community currency, stop talking nonsense and go back to working hard to get rich.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: dothebeats on February 06, 2024, 02:32:25 PM
My people in the province have lands, can sustain themselves fairly well, yet still categorized as poor by the indices proposed by organizations. They don't have much money in the bank, but their lands are worth millions and refuse to sell that because that's what they only know. They can adapt to any changes in the economy, and that's the 'poor' people I aspire to be.

When you increase in the societal ladder in terms of finances, you also increase your expenses which makes it harder for you to fill your 'needs'. These simple people from above do what they do best and are living happy lives because they have food to eat and land to farm on. They don't ask for anything else except good harvest. I guess, if you're self-sustainable, you don't need that much money and can still become 'poor' to the eyes of other people.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Text on February 06, 2024, 02:53:13 PM
As mentioned above, how can you face challenges like legality? Creating and using your currency is illegal in many countries, including potential issues with counterfeiting and tax evasion.

Relying solely on local productions might not be feasible for all communities, especially in regions with limited or harsh climates.

How will you deal with exchanging with outsiders? Enforcing rules on people outside the community who want to buy food could lead to conflict.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: EluguHcman on February 06, 2024, 03:09:20 PM
In a country where the government doesn't have the welfares of the poor masses in mind, then the poor masses have to take adequate responsibilities of themselves foreseeing that it you do not help yourself, no one would help you in as much the government whom are ought to be responsible in setting up firms and infrastructural amenities for the masses welfares has gone adamant and ignorant towards you the poor masses.
Meanwhile....as a lucrative poor citizen, you are opportuned to create your own wealth with the intense of your creativities such as the agricultures which are local infrastructures fitted in for every individuals to engage on.
Foods are essential commodities that everyone are in need of and by so, such amenities could offer one the chances to yielding incomes based on the patronage demands could be highly in needs of your products. And so, you would have all rights of your venture's terms and conditions applicable towards the masses.

It is likewise to let go unproductive pleasures and dispatch from people who are not supportively benefitial to your wills and distance from those who are not subordinate to attain you your desired heights and surround yourself with those on the same missions as you or mingle with those who are potentialed to utter solutions to your problems.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: kryptqnick on February 06, 2024, 04:03:56 PM
Starting a currency is not that difficult, but it's a very risky path because it can lose tons of value due to a lack of liquidity and demand. Some countries have strong fiat currencies, so there's no good reason to try creating a new one. Other countries might have troublesome fiat, but people there can have access to stronger fiat and sometimes also to cryptos.
Using a community currency that nobody else uses and nobody authorizes is likely to be illegal, confusing, and not attract enough support. Of course, barter is a different thing, and people use it in some places, formally or informally, but then a currency isn't necessary.
So honestly, I don't think that's good advice.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: WillyAp on February 06, 2024, 05:59:18 PM
Poor people are staying poor till they achieve a few attitudes:
Able to calculate, apply discipline and be able to save. Even at the expense of eating the cheapest of all.

In a country where the government doesn't have the welfares of the poor masses in mind, then the poor masses have to take adequate responsibilities of themselves foreseeing that it you do not help yourself, no one would help you in as much the government whom are ought to be responsible in setting up firms and infrastructural amenities for the masses welfares has gone adamant and ignorant towards you the poor masses.

True to the mark.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: kentrolla on February 06, 2024, 06:11:47 PM
There are lot of tribes and people like that who are so rich if we talk about their land, water, food resources but they don't have liquid cash with them and they are forced to worked far away from their land. Now the question is why would they need fiat? they cannot keep themselves isolated throughout their life and in order to keep themselves updated with technology they need to get learn it and even if they need a doctor from their own tribe you cannot offer food or fruits for it you need to pay money issued by the government and this is possible only when you sell your stuffs to them and use their money as printing own money is never a solution. We need to understand government can snatch their land and resources with force it has happened with many farmers in countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

Not fair to entirely blame them rather government should reachout to them and work out some sort of plan which should be mutually beneficial.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Casalania on February 06, 2024, 08:15:26 PM
I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.
It's funny that there are individuals who hold such beliefs without fully comprehending how to become a shareholder of a bank. Saving money in a bank is distinct from being a shareholder since the latter involves purchasing a share or stock of the bank. This concept is different from simply saving money in a bank, which is why not everyone can grasp it.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fortify on February 06, 2024, 08:25:53 PM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

Oh no, your bank must have been so hurt that you dont use them - not really, they don't give a toss and I somehow doubt that you have much money to hold in the bank anyway. The world is a very unbalanced and in many ways unfair place, some people happen to be born in countries that give them a lot of advantages and others will be lucky if they get any form of education in their early life. The bank is not a charity, but you appear to be begging for handouts, what makes you so special over the other billions of people who want free money as well? You're not special, nor deserving of free money either. Free money to fund your life does not exist, but even if it did it will never make the taste of earning your wage better.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: carlfebz2 on February 06, 2024, 09:36:48 PM
I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.
It's funny that there are individuals who hold such beliefs without fully comprehending how to become a shareholder of a bank. Saving money in a bank is distinct from being a shareholder since the latter involves purchasing a share or stock of the bank. This concept is different from simply saving money in a bank, which is why not everyone can grasp it.
Truly laughable or something that you would really be able to raise up those questions into your mind on how the heck t hey do really been able to have those thinking and beliefs on which it is really just that totally non relevant or having no connection at all. Sooner or later they would really be able to laugh into theirselves that on what are the things that they've been thinking. Saving up on a bank and being a shareholder
is never been the same and this is something that people should really be realizing. If you are really that serious on trying out to learn up with those financial correlated things then it wouldnt really be that so hard
on doing so, considering that most informations that we do really need is really just that on the tips of our fingertips. It would really be just that depending on how you would really be making out such act.

Someones life couldnt really be able to be that progressive if they wont really be making out such action. Learning up things as broad as possible not only just that limited onto
a few aspect or key areas but rather it would be best that it should really be that it would really be scattered out.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: cakravothy on February 06, 2024, 10:31:54 PM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: n0ne on February 06, 2024, 11:54:43 PM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.
We were able to see a big list of people who had succeeded in life though they're poor. It all happened through their hard and smart work. Even now we can see people working hard and unable to improve their financial status. This is all because of the lack of smart work. The previous generation relied much on hard work and now smart work plays big role. Everywhere the need for smart work has increased. When we look for the solution, education is the right choice.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: shinratensei_ on February 07, 2024, 01:50:03 AM
there is something that you forget at starting your own community trying to build a community that is self sustaining with framing and growing food, that is corruption, can't sweat about the fact that there are many corruption across various communities there's always people that tries to get ahead of other trying to earn wealth as much as they can, and im not talking about 1 person in a whole community but half of the community if not more usually have that characteristic its called human nature for a reason.
you say to create your own currency if the country law somehow forbid such thing then your community will also got into trouble as well, its overall unrealistic solution that you presented added with the fact that you should know there's reason why a village that opens up joining free market are more thriving than those that isolates themselves.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Darker45 on February 07, 2024, 02:05:21 AM
If this is your preferred system, why not ditch money altogether? If you've got fruits and you need grains, why not just go for a barter? Money in this primitive design is superfluous. And money backed by something perishable is probably not a good money. Besides, since it isn't a legal tender, it doesn't create a certain level of security for its users.

I can remember when I was a kid and we are living near the sea. Fish and fish products are abundant. But we need rice and there are no rice fields there. We go to places where rice is abundant and barter our fish products with rice. The people there are also in need of what we're bringing. Both our products are in demand.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Casalania on February 07, 2024, 07:43:13 AM
I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.
It's funny that there are individuals who hold such beliefs without fully comprehending how to become a shareholder of a bank. Saving money in a bank is distinct from being a shareholder since the latter involves purchasing a share or stock of the bank. This concept is different from simply saving money in a bank, which is why not everyone can grasp it.
Truly laughable or something that you would really be able to raise up those questions into your mind on how the heck t hey do really been able to have those thinking and beliefs on which it is really just that totally non relevant or having no connection at all. Sooner or later they would really be able to laugh into theirselves that on what are the things that they've been thinking. Saving up on a bank and being a shareholder
is never been the same and this is something that people should really be realizing. If you are really that serious on trying out to learn up with those financial correlated things then it wouldnt really be that so hard
on doing so, considering that most informations that we do really need is really just that on the tips of our fingertips. It would really be just that depending on how you would really be making out such act.

Someones life couldnt really be able to be that progressive if they wont really be making out such action. Learning up things as broad as possible not only just that limited onto
a few aspect or key areas but rather it would be best that it should really be that it would really be scattered out.
Indeed, having this forum to share and gain knowledge is fortunate. We can learn about things we are curious about or don't know much about. For example, the OP's question may seem funny, but he needs to learn that saving money to become a shareholder isn't the same thing.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: slapper on February 07, 2024, 08:28:04 AM
A community money backed by food and fruits isn't a fiction; it's a beautiful example of self-sufficiency. It's about regaining power and comprehending the complex dynamics of economics and sovereignty

Your thesis is clear: why should communities accept a currency that benefits others? Not them. Trust, value, and acceptance are equally as imortant as issuance when introducing a currency. Not only dissatisfaction, but also careful planning, unshakable devotion, and strategic forethought are needed

Financial literacy helps us. Important to understand are currency valuation, inflation management, and economic sustainability. Dashing the bank isn't enough; you need to create a system that measures wealth in community well-being and sovereignty. Your bold idea is based on the fact that communities prosper when they use their resources properly


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: serveria.com on February 07, 2024, 08:48:03 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

Easier said than done. The government won't let you do any of this. Issuing your own currency will definitely lead to some serious issues with law. Poor people are profitable for any government and corporations because they can be used as slaves and can be paid meagre salaries, thus making the rich even richer. So most of the points you're sharing here may lead to you getting arrested and possibly convicted.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 07, 2024, 09:28:24 AM
Easier said than done. The government won't let you do any of this. Issuing your own currency will definitely lead to some serious issues with law. Poor people are profitable for any government and corporations because they can be used as slaves and can be paid meagre salaries, thus making the rich even richer. So most of the points you're sharing here may lead to you getting arrested and possibly convicted.
Exactly. We are not entitled to create our own currency as it is unlawful and might end us getting arrested and this is definitely a suicide if we insist. No one will also give a damn trust to the fake money we are creating unless it is in the form of a precious metal. In short what OP is talking about is not gonna happen.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Lantind on February 07, 2024, 10:01:14 AM
If this is your preferred system, why not ditch money altogether? If you've got fruits and you need grains, why not just go for a barter? Money in this primitive design is superfluous. And money backed by something perishable is probably not a good money. Besides, since it isn't a legal tender, it doesn't create a certain level of security for its users.

I can remember when I was a kid and we are living near the sea. Fish and fish products are abundant. But we need rice and there are no rice fields there. We go to places where rice is abundant and barter our fish products with rice. The people there are also in need of what we're bringing. Both our products are in demand.
If the valid means of payment is easily damaged then it is very unlikely that it can be used as a legal means of payment and also everyone will certainly not choose money that is easily damaged because this will make them lose the assets they have if the money they save has been damaged.
Indeed, it would be better to just barter because we will be able to get what we need by exchanging what we have for the type of goods we need and this will really benefit both parties who both need what they don't have.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: moneystery on February 07, 2024, 10:12:23 AM
what did you eat this morning? because none of the statements in your thread make sense. you have to learn more, don't just think based on what's in your brain and just spit it out without filtering it first.

you know that when everyone has their own currency it means there is a disconnect between societies, and that will cause new problems. moreover, people don't just need food, they need clothes, vehicles, houses, etc.

and when you put your money in the bank, that doesn't make you a shareholder. you become a shareholder when you own shares in their bank. if you only put money in the bank, that means you are a customer and you are not entitled to profits from the bank.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: crwth on February 07, 2024, 10:23:26 AM
^Same thoughts as the poster above.

I don't think what you are trying to say makes sense and it's going around and around with no idea and no point towards what you are posting about. The subject is poor people need solutions now and you offer the solution that needs to understand the system and then rambling on and on about not caring and not being money-backed.

You are being bought? Creating a new system? So you mean a new government? Who is the "YOU" you are talking about? It's really hard to understand.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Peanutswar on February 07, 2024, 10:25:58 AM
Even though government want to help them and rich people too like with the assistance of the charity and different platform if they don't have the enough opportunities they cant make their life goes to the lower middle class, let's accept the fact that most of the poor ones don't have a good education, which might cause a limit of opportunities and network so just to sustain with their daily needs they keep working hard any kind of jobs there's no specification because they don't have a choice. If there's any and they have a good mindset and grab the chance on it this could be a life changer to them but if not they will keep on the lower of the economy.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: tottong on February 07, 2024, 11:15:10 AM
So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

Personally I can never ignore social life with people around or with people who need help.
Although the levels are small, We as living things must be able to push each other in different areas as a step of progress.

And vice versa with the case of poverty that is engulfing many people and now there are many people starting to lose jobs that are caused by the of the workplace.
The life that we live is never separated from the government because the government is absolute and binding, but we need to set our own standards and if we have money then they must come to buy something from us based on a decent rate.
Just like the harvest in agriculture and plantations because they arrange and we provide goods.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Zoomic on February 07, 2024, 02:42:16 PM
So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

Personally I can never ignore social life with people around or with people who need help.
Although the levels are small, We as living things must be able to push each other in different areas as a step of progress.

And vice versa with the case of poverty that is engulfing many people and now there are many people starting to lose jobs that are caused by the of the workplace.
The life that we live is never separated from the government because the government is absolute and binding, but we need to set our own standards and if we have money then they must come to buy something from us based on a decent rate.
Just like the harvest in agriculture and plantations because they arrange and we provide goods.

We know the government doesn't always favour the poor people because the poor sometimes has nothing to offer the government. But I think there is sense in what OP is saying, even though it took me quite some time to really comprehend. The problem with most poor people is that they ignore opportunities in their environment and aim for what will stress them and even take long to acquire. Most of these poor people belong to the rural areas where there are lots of fertile lands available for cultivation. Mass production of food is a big breakthrough for the poor man but many won't notice it. If the government notices that a particular region produces food that is enough to feed a good percentage of the population, they will be compelled to draw crosser to the people just to get food. Here, negotiations and agreements can then be reached by the government and the poor people.  What a brilliant idea!

Making strict rules just because you have what the people need might not be a good idea.  The poor man cannot live in isolation, he needs the government and the government needs him. Creating your own system and money might chase the government away to other regions. No two central governments can co-exist in thesame government.  One must be above the other.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on February 07, 2024, 02:50:22 PM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
It is not easy for a small group of community to form their own currency, because there's a government in place that is responsible for everybody,  they take all the revenue that is being generated from the people in the name of tax and they should be responsible to the needs of the people, by providing the enabling environment for people to survive. however it is good for a community to grow their own food and feed themselves and stay together as a community rather than wanting to wait for government for everythin. But boycott the currency of your country because of primordial sentiment that you have. Remember that the government is responsible for the protection of life and properties, they are in charge of the security, so if you say you want to begin to use another currency inside thesame country, that is more like a treasonable felony because you cannot form a government under another government, so having a currency outside the original government currency is more like having a parallel government.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: spectre71 on February 07, 2024, 03:17:36 PM
I lived amongst poor people and tried to employ them. (OK, US)

Failed miserably. Being poor is a mindset, they wanted to be that way.  I would pay them and not see them for days. Most of the time they scored some drugs or it was just enough to get by, but never get ahead. They would score some weed and a new shiny bong but the power would be out and what food they had would spoil.

Put a new tire on the car to get to work or a crappy pawn shop guitar, the guitar.

In the end I had them bring me their bills and I would pay them first, meet me at the gas station before work and I would gas their cars Monday morning. I would pay them what was left over in cash, couldn't hold a bank account. They massively resented this.

Waste of time and money. They will never change.



Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: WillyAp on February 07, 2024, 03:26:01 PM
Waste of time and money. They will never change.
Also my experience. People don't change because you help them.
They learn to despise you as you show them what is wrong. You need to be in a life threatening situation in order to change your life. 


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: serveria.com on February 07, 2024, 03:53:25 PM
I lived amongst poor people and tried to employ them. (OK, US)

Failed miserably. Being poor is a mindset, they wanted to be that way.  I would pay them and not see them for days. Most of the time they scored some drugs or it was just enough to get by, but never get ahead. They would score some weed and a new shiny bong but the power would be out and what food they had would spoil.

Put a new tire on the car to get to work or a crappy pawn shop guitar, the guitar.

In the end I had them bring me their bills and I would pay them first, meet me at the gas station before work and I would gas their cars Monday morning. I would pay them what was left over in cash, couldn't hold a bank account. They massively resented this.

Waste of time and money. They will never change.

I could argue. It seems you were just unlucky or dealing with a specific group of people (homeless? junkies?). I personally know at least a handful of guys whom I guess you could call poor, but who would be happy to work for just a fraction of an average pay. They would do literally anything if you offer them a job. And current economic downturn increases the number of such people day by day.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: m2017 on February 07, 2024, 05:03:59 PM
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And then the goverment (in the form of special bodies) will immediately come to you to punish you. Only the goverment, whose right is backed by force, has a monopoly on the issue of money.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system
You can't just go ahead and log out of the system. How are you going to do this? Go to the jungle to the primitive tribes?

This can only be done if there is an alternative system.

Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
If you see someone not good with you then leave their system
You are not investing in a bank (if you are their client as a depositor, like most), but are leasing your money for a tiny fee. You are not a bank investor.

So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
And thus you yourself gradually turn into that same system.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: ChiBitCTy on February 07, 2024, 05:14:15 PM
The biggest solution for those whom are poor, live below the normal comfortable standards of living etc would be solved or at least for many nations would be solved if we stopped going to freakin war!  That would solve a lot of issues with this world.

On the other hand, people need to be educated better of the special resources available for those whom are in need. I know here in the US that's a major issue, poor people just often don't know what's available in terms of help and how to seek it.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: o48o on February 07, 2024, 07:59:16 PM
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I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.
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You can't be serious.

You are not shareholder of a bank if you let them keep your money safe. That's not investing. in same way you aren't shareholder of a gym if you leave your clothes and money in the locker room.
Both of them are offering you a service, and other one of them are offering a service that involves transferring your money. Banks don't owe you anything. They are charging you for using their services. And one key difference between these services (crypto and banks) is that when you hold your own money, you need to cover security for it by yourself. That's not cheap to do when you are securing money for millions of people.

Even blockchains are charging you for transactions, they aren't there to make you wealthy. It's just happens if the asset you are holding moons, but that's not in any way connected to what they are build to do.



Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: ingiltere on February 07, 2024, 09:41:14 PM
I'm having trouble understanding your post. Why should the bank give you a percentage if you don't buy the bank's stock in the stock market? I think you are the one who doesn't understand the system here. The state has the authority to print money, if you oppose this, you have a historic opportunity because Bitcoin has been invented. You don't need a new money based on fruits and vegetables. A new currency isn't the solution the poor need. Stop voting for politicians who don't care about you. Maybe then you will realize that you have the power to change things.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: uneng on February 07, 2024, 10:23:04 PM
Largest portion of farmable lands are owned by few tycoons who dominate the agriculture of the country. Minor farmers who could supposely form a community of vegetables, fruits and meat producers don't have enough space, tools and materials to run their small farms in a sustainable way. They will inevitably need to trade with other merchants and tycoons at some point, what will demand them to be part of a local financial system, with a common currency, which has a central bank behind, which in turn have a government backing it composed by politicians, who are sponsored by businessmen, including the tycoons who own most lands. This is a vicious cycle we call system which is unbreakable.

Nobody has ever broken this evil logic the world follows. It has been more or less like this since the beginning of civilizations, and despite the ideologies, strategies and political agendas you try to implement, it seems it's never going to change. I believe only divine intervention can make things more balanced, and that is the last hope of many individuals at this point, since to believe in anything else coming from humans seem pointless and a waste of time, because we have already been deceived many times until now by different individuals and their miraculous plans to save our nations from poverty, inequality and unfairness. Everything in vain.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: serjent05 on February 07, 2024, 11:16:51 PM
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.


This has been done by some groups in my country but their standard of living does not increase.  The members of the group continue to be poor and get exploited while the leader who implemented or issued the community money becomes rich.  This is another strategy for exploiting poor people.  And since it is not recognized by the financial institution, the money issued will be only used inside the community and many problems will arise from that because the community cannot support all the goods that are needed by its member so they cannot completely abandon the government issued currency because they still have to use it to buy things that their community cannot produce.





Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: poodle63 on February 08, 2024, 02:44:38 AM
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.


This has been done by some groups in my country but their standard of living does not increase.  The members of the group continue to be poor and get exploited while the leader who implemented or issued the community money becomes rich.  This is another strategy for exploiting poor people.  And since it is not recognized by the financial institution, the money issued will be only used inside the community and many problems will arise from that because the community cannot support all the goods that are needed by its member so they cannot completely abandon the government issued currency because they still have to use it to buy things that their community cannot produce.




thats definitely the thing with this flawed strategy of issuing community currency because the community is required to be self sufficient, able to produce goods in exchange for other thing that they are lacking consistently but only very few select community can do that because mismanagement and many more.
its definitely easier than said to do so, issuing own currency might instead be abandoned in no time if the currency is so useless it cant be used for something and they'd still use government currency anyway so whats the point.
its important to know that many strategy have been tried and very few succeeds with trying to grow own community that are self sustaining.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Kakmakr on February 08, 2024, 06:09:18 AM
The problem is seven out of ten people in this world, live on less than $10 per day. Also, 5% of the global population, own 88% of the wealth.

There has to be a more even distribution of wealth for people to have a better life.

It is not all doom and gloom, because some of the richest people in the world has acknowledged this and they are giving away most of this wealth. (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation)


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Xxmodded on February 08, 2024, 08:01:55 AM
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Its very bad ideas when leaving government currencies and adopted with own community money because can't help poor people get stable financial, exactly will get much problem later when have some community want to make their own currency payment transaction.
In my country poor people still large dominance around 40% of citizen and government still get right solve way how to make poor people get healthy financial.

Most of them can't get higher level of education and difficult get job with bigger payment salary, first need to give free education until highest level how to get solution for the poor people, dominance by lower education make some people difficult with their financial and get label as poor people.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: sekalitas on February 08, 2024, 08:24:57 AM

So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

The issue is that poor people often lack the opportunity to create complex systems like that because they're focused on meeting their basic needs day-to-day. Before they can even consider building a system like the one you described for creating their own currency, their energy is already depleted from working to secure food.

While I don't think creating their own currency is a viable solution, small-scale bartering might be an option. However, this could create new problems, as it would be similar to returning to the old barter system, which can make it difficult to determine the value of goods.

Ultimately, I believe the best option for poor people is to invest in themselves through education, such as attending college, to gain skills and knowledge that can help them improve their circumstances.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: TheUltraElite on February 08, 2024, 09:24:32 AM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

OP also needs to improve on their way of presentation of facts and conclusions.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 08, 2024, 12:30:20 PM
If you live in a place where there's a president or king that has a control, you need to obey with every rules and regulations. If you don't want to get controlled, you need to move away to unclaimed lands (https://theculturetrip.com/europe/articles/11-unclaimed-lands-you-can-actually-rule) and do what you want on there. You will realize it's more harder to start build a place to live alone from scratch than working for few years to get it.

Ultimately, I believe the best option for poor people is to invest in themselves through education, such as attending college, to gain skills and knowledge that can help them improve their circumstances.
Everyone knows to escape from poverty, many people always say get education, learn a new skill, working abroad etc. But the reality, there's always a poor people in everywhere.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: zaim7413 on February 08, 2024, 01:25:54 PM
Farmers can only produce food needs from their land, but do not have the power to control market prices. The hardships felt by farmers due to government policies are not in their favor. The government's efforts to protect farmers from the misery of the poverty line are very minimal, the government prefers to import all basic necessities which makes market prices plummet further due to the abundant supply of goods. The prosperity of farmers must receive support from the government, the snowball effect can be prevented by providing land for farmers and keeping the selling value of basic commodities high.

Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Who can do it, farmers do not have the authority to issue their own Community money and the government will not support the idea, this is the same as building a house inside a house.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: slapper on February 08, 2024, 03:19:04 PM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

OP also needs to improve on their way of presentation of facts and conclusions.
Although banks undoubtedly have a throne, will we merely sit there and give in? No. Yes, you are correct; there is currently no widely acknowledged substitute for what they are searching for. However, ignoring cryptocurrency? That is our point of divergence. One does not become accepting by maintaining the existing quo. Acceptance begins somewhere. Banks should be complemented and given options rather than being completely overthrown overnight

Do you wish to be accepted in the neighbourhood? Start out tiny. Tell, show, and incorporate. When citizens do, don't governments take note and adjust? Rather than them, it starts with us. Presentation by the OP? Although there is room for improvement, remember that there is more than meets the eye. The essentials? There it is, crystal clear. It's high time that we all realised that the financial landscape is changing


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: nara1892 on February 08, 2024, 05:37:55 PM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

So far I believe and indeed I feel that the presence of banks really helps people whether they are poor or rich and I think so far nothing can replace the role of banks in people's lives, some alternatives that look pretty good like crypto which on the other hand can make people know more and feel about its benefits in life but basically not all people can accept the presence of something that is considered to be a solution or savior, and of course for this problem it is the business of the government that has the power which of course can convince and increase trust in the community if it is necessary to make changes.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: knowngunman on February 08, 2024, 06:27:55 PM
So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

This is actually the dumbest idea I have come across so far this year. Sometimes, you make a fool of yourself while thinking that you're smart. If this will work like you assume, people would have started doing it long ago. A currency has to be acceptable by all as a legal tender and not only by a segment of the community. It is as simple as ABC to issue your own currency but it will be useless forever because nobody will accept it from you including people in your community. This practice is an attempt of revolution to stand against government and it is punishable offense. If you don't have lenient government to tolerate your nonsense (I doubt if any government would tolerate such move by any community), you will put everyone's life on danger with this idea because it's a threat to government.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: red4slash on February 08, 2024, 06:56:58 PM

What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Using the community's own money? who created that thing will it sell? lol
you have to realise that saying create your own money means you have to build your own country with legitimate money there because if you create your own money and use it where you live now in whatever country it is then it will not be accepted mate trust me on this.
You will be considered a freak if you do this and insist that the money you created is accepted and worse, it might be related to the law.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.
This is your own choice but keep in mind that when we live in a country then there must still be fiat that we have because even though it is your own choice when not using banks and saving money there but still Fiat is an important situation that must be owned because we can only rely on it for transaction tools now unless you want to implement a barter system and even then if someone wants to do it but for now I am sure no one wants to do that :D
Regardless of whether we like banks or not, at the end of the day, we can't leave them behind because the full control of the financial system and the needs we have is still in their hands.

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So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
As I said earlier about this you have to create your own country if the government and banks want to consider you as existing and valuable because taking care of something like this by creating your own money and using it as legal tender when you are in a certain country where the regulations are clearly displayed regarding the payment system then you will be considered crazy in the end for imposing your own will which obviously will not be accepted and will only be laughed at.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: spectre71 on February 09, 2024, 04:42:20 AM
I lived amongst poor people and tried to employ them. (OK, US)

Failed miserably. Being poor is a mindset, they wanted to be that way.  I would pay them and not see them for days. Most of the time they scored some drugs or it was just enough to get by, but never get ahead. They would score some weed and a new shiny bong but the power would be out and what food they had would spoil.

Put a new tire on the car to get to work or a crappy pawn shop guitar, the guitar.

In the end I had them bring me their bills and I would pay them first, meet me at the gas station before work and I would gas their cars Monday morning. I would pay them what was left over in cash, couldn't hold a bank account. They massively resented this.

Waste of time and money. They will never change.

I could argue. It seems you were just unlucky or dealing with a specific group of people (homeless? junkies?). I personally know at least a handful of guys whom I guess you could call poor, but who would be happy to work for just a fraction of an average pay. They would do literally anything if you offer them a job. And current economic downturn increases the number of such people day by day.

No you can't. You haven't done anything your just dreaming something up. You have never hired anyone.

If they were any good, they would not be working for pennies on the dollar.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Adreman23 on February 09, 2024, 05:29:15 AM
The act of growing vegetables , fruits, or any crops that can be used as food is like printing your own money. I say this because you no longer need to buy food using government currency since you already have it. Perhaps that's a significant saving. However, if you were to create your own currency to be used by others to purchase food in your community, this idea would be illegal, especially in our country, and could result in punishment and imprisonment for us. Perhaps it would be better if, instead of insisting on not using the currency issued by your government, you simply resort to a barter system where food is exchanged for other goods or services.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: iBaba on February 09, 2024, 05:59:49 AM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

OP also needs to improve on their way of presentation of facts and conclusions.

I have said it here before and I will mention it again that it is kind of a duty upon us to start campaigns on sensitization around the adoption of Bitcoin in our own local communities and we can do this through town hall meetings and calling on friends alike to advocate the adoption of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies within our communities as an alternative to the current monetary policy realities that is be deviling us today. The international market is having its worst on some of the developing countries around the globe today and the reason is because of the globalisation and superiority agenda of the dollar.

Price of commodities and other international trades have skyrocketed and no country has the power to standardized these issues rather than the world power countries and since the situation is favoring them, they will not be willing to make any change that is why it is quite tall being able to live in a world with centralized currency, where a group of people or league of Nations can decide for the world how their local currencies will be valued.

These things are not as easy said but if you can go out there campaigning or calling people together to adapt to this new technology you can as well create a platform on social media consisting of your friends and family and then introduce the benefits of Bitcoin them. As the time goes, it seems like bitcoin would be another savior to people over the centralized currencies hence the reason why some governments have tried to work against the growth and adoption of the crypto currencies.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: pinggoki on February 09, 2024, 07:58:38 AM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.
Wrong, if the price of essential items only grow and the salary doesn't grow in parallel with that, no matter how much hard work you do, it's not going to matter, maybe try thinking a little what to say about this because that's not how things work in real life. Those poor people that a lot of you seems to not mind talking crap about are hard working, they just don't have a choice because the opportunities for them aren't that prevalent or helping them.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: BD Technical on February 09, 2024, 09:35:17 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
He who has it will have it in his future because money can be earned with money and without money it is not possible to earn money.  In that case there are many poor people who have no capital and cannot do their business and they are food.  What do you do in case of those who don't get it properly? The solution you are giving will not fill their stomachs.  In fact, in the current generation, it has become so.  The first generation is becoming such that what is happening today and what is happening is not happening.  Besides, there is no point in saying that we don't follow our system. There is no point in blaming the government. The government will not come to your house and give you food.  When Allah created us, Allah is the owner of our sustenance, Allah has arranged our sustenance, we must put our trust in Allah, and we must walk in the way that Allah will provide for us.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: ringgo96 on February 09, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
The act of growing vegetables , fruits, or any crops that can be used as food is like printing your own money. I say this because you no longer need to buy food using government currency since you already have it. Perhaps that's a significant saving. However, if you were to create your own currency to be used by others to purchase food in your community, this idea would be illegal, especially in our country, and could result in punishment and imprisonment for us. Perhaps it would be better if, instead of insisting on not using the currency issued by your government, you simply resort to a barter system where food is exchanged for other goods or services.
Currently all countries are experiencing an economic crisis, especially countries that are experiencing war such as Russia and Ukraine, and also the Palestinian state which is fighting to contain those who Israel wants to seize, currently many people are still fighting the poverty they experience, even though every day they always work but their expenses are much greater than their income, so the government must fight to reduce the price of staple food and other food so that people can manage their finances and save to avoid poverty, if in our country it is in the form of paper money and has been made into legal currency, so we have to follow this, but regarding bartering, I think we can still do it, to make it easier to meet our needs.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Yamifoud on February 09, 2024, 01:12:10 PM
Those things are not the solution to their problems but instead, it adds more. Poor people don't need a lot of things but just 2 - being optimistic and initiative. It is just changing how we think from having a poor mindset to a rich mindset. Instead of staying in the dark side of this corner, why not go to the bright side?

We never stay poor if we take action because so many opportunities around but what happens is that we never see them. What we need is to open our minds and think even better. Stop expecting the government's help but rather think about what we can do without relying on them. Just don't go against the law.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: southerngentuk on February 09, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
Let's be real, making a currency nobody else uses and the government ain't cool with is more trouble than it's worth. It's like starting your own language – confusing and probably illegal. Bartering's a different story, but then you don't even need a fancy new currency, right?

So, I gotta be honest, creating your own currency ain't exactly the smoothest move. But hey, I don't wanna rain on your parade entirely. Community currencies can be cool in some situations, like helping out communities struggling with the "regular" money game. Think of it like a local high-five economy, boosting local businesses and building community spirit.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: demonica on February 09, 2024, 02:57:03 PM
First thing first, you cannot issue your own currency since it'll have a conflict with the legal tender. Obviously, it would be illegal and you can be charged by that. Although you got a point that when you have a food source, you can earn money. However, you are probably not the only one who can provide those food so it'll be pointless making your own currency as the buyers can just find other sellers who have the same product. Once the government find out about this, they won't wait till your currency gets bigger. And I doubt you can win over the legal tender. Starting your own currency in your community feels like you're starting your own religion. And it won't really solve the problem....

And btw, what do you mean by "If system does not make you wealthy don't use it."? The currency or the bank? But regardless of that, why would they be focusing on making you wealthy? When you should be the one who needs to work for that. Additionally, you can't just ask the banks for a share just because you have money in them. But they do offer interest for their clients, tho it ain't big.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Davian144 on February 09, 2024, 03:17:35 PM
No you can't. You haven't done anything your just dreaming something up. You have never hired anyone.

If they were any good, they would not be working for pennies on the dollar.

What about "If they were any good, they wouldn't work for a penny"? Because what I know is that everyone has to work to earn money, even though that person is very useful to other people and is also highly desired by many people. In terms of employing other people at a place that we own, it is very different from when we work at someone else's place because the people we invite to work with us will certainly know the reasons why.

Apart from that, the difference between a person who is aware that he is useful to others and a person who really needs to work in someone else's place is certainly not the same because a person who knows he can be useful to other people will definitely not want to work in someone else's place unless he only works for himself. Meanwhile, those who really need a job because they don't have the capital to open their own business will definitely be very willing to work for someone else even though they already know the skills they have.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: RockBell on February 09, 2024, 03:40:36 PM
The act of growing vegetables , fruits, or any crops that can be used as food is like printing your own money. I say this because you no longer need to buy food using government currency since you already have it. Perhaps that's a significant saving. However, if you were to create your own currency to be used by others to purchase food in your community, this idea would be illegal, especially in our country, and could result in punishment and imprisonment for us. Perhaps it would be better if, instead of insisting on not using the currency issued by your government, you simply resort to a barter system where food is exchanged for other goods or services.
I don't know why people love to look down on agriculture knowing that it is one of the ways to live a poor life if we want to look at the reasons why we work, is just because we should be able to feed so instead of working or even relying on, work to be able to feed, but with your farming and having your small garden in addition, in everything about life food comes first any other thing comes second, then comes health, we need food first. and aside from consumption, you can also sell out of it and that is one of the reasons that I always love agriculture. I don't think any government will allow you to issue your currency, and if we all can go back to agriculture it will be of serious help to us, and even reduce the price of food stuffs from the market.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Antotena on February 09, 2024, 03:48:53 PM
So far I believe and indeed I feel that the presence of banks really helps people whether they are poor or rich and I think so far nothing can replace the role of banks in people's lives, some alternatives that look pretty good like crypto which on the other hand can make people know more and feel about its benefits in life but basically not all people can accept the presence of something that is considered to be a solution or savior, and of course for this problem it is the business of the government that has the power which of course can convince and increase trust in the community if it is necessary to make changes.

You really said this with confidence? Na! Banks role in the society is because they help the central bank, the government and the banks itself. None of the money banks has is officially their own, it's people money they use, allow people to save, borrow the same money to people with high interest and then give back little to no interest back to the people that save money. If there is one role the bank has played is the ability to send money from one place to another but are they even free? No, they charge you for it.

Crypto is absolutely for everyone, whether you are poor or you are rich, you will always be welcome to utilize your money with full respect, nobody charge you for anything except for the fees you pay for using the network which is normal everywhere, you don't pay for the protection, the people running the network are been compensated so you don't need to worry for another, unlike the banks that will charge you for depositing money into your account.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fiatless on February 09, 2024, 04:31:19 PM
The act of growing vegetables , fruits, or any crops that can be used as food is like printing your own money. I say this because you no longer need to buy food using government currency since you already have it. Perhaps that's a significant saving. However, if you were to create your own currency to be used by others to purchase food in your community, this idea would be illegal, especially in our country, and could result in punishment and imprisonment for us. Perhaps it would be better if, instead of insisting on not using the currency issued by your government, you simply resort to a barter system where food is exchanged for other goods or services.
The solution OP gave will only work in a closed society that is living in isolation. It will be possible to live an agrarian life that lives only on what they produce. But the world has become a global village where communities or nations depend on each other for survival. Food, shelter, clothing, and education are not the basic needs anymore. Now we need the internet, electricity, and other technological gadgets to survive.  Technology is advancing every day and we need them if we want to develop. We also need an internationally recognized currency to buy what we don't produce, so I am wondering how a community-issued currency will buy equipment and other needed materials from other countries.

I live in a developing nation that is going through a lot of economic problems. Young people have been coming out of poverty by learning new skills and securing online and offline jobs. They sacrifice to save some part of their earning and use these funds to invest in profitable ventures.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: strunberg on February 09, 2024, 04:43:32 PM
You really said this with confidence? Na! Banks role in the society is because they help the central bank, the government and the banks itself. None of the money banks has is officially their own, it's people money they use, allow people to save, borrow the same money to people with high interest and then give back little to no interest back to the people that save money. If there is one role the bank has played is the ability to send money from one place to another but are they even free? No, they charge you for it.

That is very correct. Basically what banks do is rob people. Banks take your money, either through savings or deposits, then give it to other people and earn interest. As long as you don't withdraw your money in cash, the bank can still use your money for its profit. Does anyone really pay attention to how much money we save and how much money is issued by the Bank? The rule is that bank financial statements record cash inflows or outflows. But is it really done as it should? I'm not saying to stop using banks but I want to say that if you keep your money in cash, the value of your money will continue to decrease due to inflation.

Crypto is an investment instrument that is worth considering. What's even interesting about crypto is that it is better than gold in several ways. Gold can protect the value of your money from inflation, but crypto can fight inflation and make the value of your money increase. Of course there are risks such as fluctuating prices but I see crypto, especially Bitcoin, as slightly better than other assets at the moment.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: redsun114 on February 09, 2024, 08:33:55 PM
It's not as easy as it may sound when you write it. You can't challenge the system because you don't have the power to stand against them. A small community cannot fight the whole system especially if they are doing things that are against the constitution and laws, and the government and authorities can easily use that against the community and even get them arrested or grab their lands and whatever they own even if they have to create fake cases against them.

Do you think that a government would allow every single community to create their currencies so that they can demand outsiders of that community to buy the money or currency to trade with them? That's not a way to get rid of poverty but it's the easiest way to create conflicts.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: erep on February 09, 2024, 10:58:41 PM
You really said this with confidence? Na! Banks role in the society is because they help the central bank, the government and the banks itself. None of the money banks has is officially their own, it's people money they use, allow people to save, borrow the same money to people with high interest and then give back little to no interest back to the people that save money. If there is one role the bank has played is the ability to send money from one place to another but are they even free? No, they charge you for it.

That is very correct. Basically what banks do is rob people. Banks take your money, either through savings or deposits, then give it to other people and earn interest. As long as you don't withdraw your money in cash, the bank can still use your money for its profit. Does anyone really pay attention to how much money we save and how much money is issued by the Bank? The rule is that bank financial statements record cash inflows or outflows. But is it really done as it should? I'm not saying to stop using banks but I want to say that if you keep your money in cash, the value of your money will continue to decrease due to inflation.

Crypto is an investment instrument that is worth considering. What's even interesting about crypto is that it is better than gold in several ways. Gold can protect the value of your money from inflation, but crypto can fight inflation and make the value of your money increase. Of course there are risks such as fluctuating prices but I see crypto, especially Bitcoin, as slightly better than other assets at the moment.
Accumulating money in the bank is very risky because the value of the currency is getting lower due to inflation, apart from that we are not given the benefit of getting bunos from deposits from the bank but only a profit of 0.1% for monthly income, the bank gets a big profit from our money savings but they are very stingy in sharing profits with customers, but some people choose to keep money in the bank because they have no other choice in terms of financial security, currently there are lots of cases of robbery and we will become targets of robbery if we hold a lot of cash.

Of course, every crypto community will transfer all assets to be converted into bitcoin and the security of bitcoin assets is guaranteed if you store them in a hardware wallet, so the value of bitcoin increases every halving period and we will soon see ATH soon this year.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: arimamib on February 09, 2024, 11:15:07 PM
It's not as easy as it may sound when you write it. You can't challenge the system because you don't have the power to stand against them. A small community cannot fight the whole system especially if they are doing things that are against the constitution and laws, and the government and authorities can easily use that against the community and even get them arrested or grab their lands and whatever they own even if they have to create fake cases against them.

Do you think that a government would allow every single community to create their currencies so that they can demand outsiders of that community to buy the money or currency to trade with them? That's not a way to get rid of poverty but it's the easiest way to create conflicts.
There are the complexities and challenges associated with challenging established systems, especially when it comes to matters as fundamental as currency and governance. Attempting to create alternative currencies or systems of exchange can indeed be met with resistance from established authorities, particularly if it challenges the existing economic or political order. Governments have a vested interest in maintaining control over currency and monetary policy, because it is a key tool for regulating economic activity and ensuring stability.

Creating alternative currencies on a community level may not necessarily address underlying issues of poverty and inequality. While it may provide a temporary means of exchange within a specific community, it may not be sustainable or scalable in the long run. It could potentially lead to conflicts and tensions, especially if it is perceived as a challenge to the authority of the state or existing financial institutions.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Smartvirus on February 09, 2024, 11:18:30 PM
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Good initiative, the police will catch you because you're issuing your own currency when your government didn't accept your currency as legal tender.
If that be what OP is suggesting, it’s a crime against the state and one that wouldn’t be handled with pity. It’s a betrayal of your flag and you would go in for it but, this isn’t what OP is actually saying if I understood OP correctly.

OP didn’t mean the persons from these producing part of the world having to create and issue a currency but, see the value of their products for a currency. Actually selling their products at a price that gives them great comfort and not follow any preset exchange rate.

If only that could work but nope. Don’t forget, the government is into farming too, giving out loans and creating policies about them, carrying out genetic engineering to get better breeds of food and cash crops. Having standard for import and exports. So long as you leave within the state, you must always be bounded by its rules.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: poodle63 on February 10, 2024, 02:38:12 AM
Let's be real, making a currency nobody else uses and the government ain't cool with is more trouble than it's worth. It's like starting your own language – confusing and probably illegal. Bartering's a different story, but then you don't even need a fancy new currency, right?

So, I gotta be honest, creating your own currency ain't exactly the smoothest move. But hey, I don't wanna rain on your parade entirely. Community currencies can be cool in some situations, like helping out communities struggling with the "regular" money game. Think of it like a local high-five economy, boosting local businesses and building community spirit.
added with countries that forbid the use of currency outside the officially established currency its gonna have some good sentence for those that tries to create their own currency.
every country law is different and this strategy mentioned gonna have some law implications. best chance to fight poverty is just to break our way out through the means that are already available or being provided by the government, for example is studying and getting a job, i think pretty anywhere there's way to get higher degree without the need to pay huge sum amount of money.
after all, what are we, just an individual that exists among other billions of people definitely we should just go with the flow not opposing how the world truly works.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: cozytrade on February 10, 2024, 03:35:52 AM
The bottom line is that people need education first to eradicate poverty. Whatever work you are going to do if you have proper knowledge or education on that work. Then it is definitely possible to get success from that action. Nowadays there is a need for education in agricultural activities as well. Hard work alone without education to get more results in agricultural work also does not bring success. If a person starts using his own money in his country then it is natural that he will be punished by the government of his country. And if a person acquires higher education he can develop his talent. Then that will be his biggest personal money for him. His "that" personal money will not be limited to the government of his country. There will be no end to his demand for this private "money" in any state of the world.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: blckhawk on February 10, 2024, 04:07:18 AM
Let's be real, making a currency nobody else uses and the government ain't cool with is more trouble than it's worth. It's like starting your own language – confusing and probably illegal. Bartering's a different story, but then you don't even need a fancy new currency, right?
Bitcoin was successful at doing just that, I think that it's a matter of positivity and at the same time utility of the token because if you create a token just because you want to without any predetermined purpose from the start then what you're saying is definitely the right thing that's going to happen. Also, your analogy of creating a language is confusing too because it's not that difficult or worth more trouble than it's worth if you know what you're doing, look at Ithkwil.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Kriptogram14 on February 10, 2024, 05:06:20 AM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.
We were able to see a big list of people who had succeeded in life though they're poor. It all happened through their hard and smart work. Even now we can see people working hard and unable to improve their financial status. This is all because of the lack of smart work. The previous generation relied much on hard work and now smart work plays big role. Everywhere the need for smart work has increased. When we look for the solution, education is the right choice.

Today's society needs guidance and socialization about today's life, because today's times are very different from the past, where the life of lower middle class people in the past was enthusiastic about earning a living, even though their work was in the rice fields, but they were prosperous at that time, the more advanced the times, the harder it was. the life of today's society, where farmers and sailors complain about market prices that are not in line with their expectations, nowadays it is increasingly sophisticated and the farmers and fishermen are screaming more and more, now the most important solution for society is to keep the spirit of working hard even though it now makes people scream, for young people who are still unemployed, remain enthusiastic about looking for vacancies and think about opportunities to make money, don't be lazy and lazy, they won't change their fate unless they change it themselves.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on February 10, 2024, 07:02:18 AM
I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

I don't know how it will be sweet for you to compose a lie to share with millions of people on these forums. You are still a newcomer with a bunch of activity without many merits. I'm sure this is what you do to make your profile unmerited by the forum members. I don't understand the zeal you are going to have in your country that you will confront your government and say they are scams. Even though you said bank, I believe the government owns the banks, so I think you should take your time and learn. However, the money in banks is not their money. People deposit funds in banks so they will help them hold it. It is not the bankers money, so I'm surprised that you said you told your bank why they didn't share the money.

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So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

This is funny, so you think a single community can be able to create their own currency when there is a currency accepted by the government of that country? I don't know how this will make any sense for a community to create their own currency when there is another currency that people are using all over the country. However, don't you think that community will also go to another place and buy something because even if they are able to produce food for themselves, there are other things that they must buy in another place?


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: justdimin on February 10, 2024, 01:20:04 PM
So far I believe and indeed I feel that the presence of banks really helps people whether they are poor or rich and I think so far nothing can replace the role of banks in people's lives, some alternatives that look pretty good like crypto which on the other hand can make people know more and feel about its benefits in life but basically not all people can accept the presence of something that is considered to be a solution or savior, and of course for this problem it is the business of the government that has the power which of course can convince and increase trust in the community if it is necessary to make changes.
You really said this with confidence? Na! Banks role in the society is because they help the central bank, the government and the banks itself. None of the money banks has is officially their own, it's people money they use, allow people to save, borrow the same money to people with high interest and then give back little to no interest back to the people that save money. If there is one role the bank has played is the ability to send money from one place to another but are they even free? No, they charge you for it.

Crypto is absolutely for everyone, whether you are poor or you are rich, you will always be welcome to utilize your money with full respect, nobody charge you for anything except for the fees you pay for using the network which is normal everywhere, you don't pay for the protection, the people running the network are been compensated so you don't need to worry for another, unlike the banks that will charge you for depositing money into your account.
Exchanges are sort of like that as well when you think about it. Binance doesn't really have their "own" money in that sense. Banks do have their own money, when they charge you a fee, when they give you a loan and then you pay back with interest, all those are income that the bank makes.

Similarly, when exchanges charge you for withdrawal, the difference between what they charged and what the fee was, it's theirs, also famously the trading fee as well, billions everyday, even a small 0.05% makes a wealth. So all in all, they do make money from our money, but they do make their own money from our money in the end. I believe that it is still a business plan, and looks like it has been working for centuries with some crashes here and there.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: jaberwock on February 10, 2024, 01:44:32 PM
The problem is seven out of ten people in this world, live on less than $10 per day. Also, 5% of the global population, own 88% of the wealth.

There has to be a more even distribution of wealth for people to have a better life.

It is not all doom and gloom, because some of the richest people in the world has acknowledged this and they are giving away most of this wealth. (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation)
This is not someone else problem but it's the problem of those who are struggling. Pretty sure they did something on why they are like that but it is not yet too late for them to change it. Those 5 percent who own most wealth, work hard for it. It's not only being distributed to them by god even though god didn't create everything in equal. It's nice to know that there are concerned rich people who wants to help the poor.

This should slowly clear their image because many of us thinks they are too selfish even though again, it was not their fault on why we are poor but it can be the fault of our government, as we know that many of them are corrupt.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Zanab247 on February 10, 2024, 02:11:16 PM
There is no way everybody in the country can live well without no poor people in the society because everybody has his or her own desire at the moment and for you to reduce such issues to allow the people to feel the positive side of the economic, is to invest more on agriculture, industries, roads and institution which are some of the things people are lacking these days.

Once there is a surplus industries in the world, it will definitely reduce poor people in the world because those industries will be accommodating numbers of people in the world to eliminate poverty for people to live a good live.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: AYOBA on February 10, 2024, 02:19:21 PM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
I don't understand your statement. Are you suggesting that people should stop using official currency and solely use their own local currency? You must live up to this vision of yours. For us failing to forget about government money will be problematic since, although we are growing some fruit and cooking our own food, we do not necessarily leave government money alone. It seems like you overlooked the fact that, in some areas, the government is also required to provide us its own currency without interfering with our own money.

Even community food cannot grow without the use of government property; fertilizer is required for healthy growth. I don't believe that community impoverished people can cease using government currency because most of them do not have their own personal money, instead they rely on the government to provide them with currency.



Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Doan9269 on February 10, 2024, 03:33:38 PM
And who should be the solution giver on the poor when everyone is quite busy on his own, we should begin to start with the eradication of the mentality of being dependent on other people or the government for our success, we have to take the responsibility for ourselves and start to tryout new things, we should work on our personal self, create time to discover more about ourselves, build a career profile or learn any valuable skill or trade to help us have something to offer that could get us earnings.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on February 10, 2024, 04:26:27 PM
And who should be the solution giver on the poor when everyone is quite busy on his own, we should begin to start with the eradication of the mentality of being dependent on other people or the government for our success, we have to take the responsibility for ourselves and start to tryout new things, we should work on our personal self, create time to discover more about ourselves, build a career profile or learn any valuable skill or trade to help us have something to offer that could get us earnings.
We need to realize from the beginning that we live in a harsh world and there needs to be survival if we want to survive because even though it sounds harsh but the law of the jungle system where the strongest is the one who survives is true only we don't really bring it up because it will be considered a complicated situation but in fact in the application in life this is true where we live based on caste and humans are classified into several economic strata.

But on the other hand this is also for the sake of maintaining the stabilization of the world so that it runs well because if everyone becomes rich then in the end no one wants to work and this will actually break the natural chain that should be well maintained.
Even though it will indeed feel unfair when we live below the poverty line but in the end it is a scheme that cannot be changed because if there are rich then there will definitely be poor but that does not mean we cannot change that destiny it's just that it will be very difficult to do if we do not have any strength in terms of finance and inadequate relationships then in the end we will continue to struggle in the cycle of poverty that occurs.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: topbitcoin on February 10, 2024, 04:53:59 PM
To be able to get out of poverty, a person must have a strong desire and determination. It's useless if we keep talking about a way to get out of this condition to achieve prosperity and financial stability. If those we invite do not have the effort and do not want to get out of that condition.

The bottom line is that people need education first to eradicate poverty. Whatever work you are going to do if you have proper knowledge or education on that work. Then it is definitely possible to get success from that action. Nowadays there is a need for education in agricultural activities as well. Hard work alone without education to get more results in agricultural work also does not bring success. If a person starts using his own money in his country then it is natural that he will be punished by the government of his country. And if a person acquires higher education he can develop his talent. Then that will be his biggest personal money for him. His "that" personal money will not be limited to the government of his country. There will be no end to his demand for this private "money" in any state of the world.

Higher education will not be a guarantee that someone will be able to achieve success, but through education someone can know how to achieve success. And when talking about education, with so many people still being left behind and technologically clueless, it seems that education is still far from being equal.
And indeed, currently there is still a shortage of workers and experts in the agricultural sector, and there is no regeneration. This happens because young people today are starting to be reluctant to enter the world of agriculture, because they think that it is shameful and disgusting. And I am also a little confused about young people today, where they continue to sort and choose the jobs they will pursue, but they themselves do not have enough skills and abilities in the fields they want.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Tomcolor on February 10, 2024, 05:59:44 PM
A man's personal life can be managed only with as much money as is needed to manage it. When you are poor society will not appreciate you. So I have to fight all these battles to live a happy life and meet the financial needs of the family. Trying to grow fruits from the land made me tough because they are not easy jobs at all. As the amount of money increases, the scale of respect associated with it will increase more in this society.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: harapan on February 10, 2024, 06:02:24 PM
In a country where the government doesn't have the welfares of the poor masses in mind, then the poor masses have to take adequate responsibilities of themselves foreseeing that it you do not help yourself, no one would help you in as much the government whom are ought to be responsible in setting up firms and infrastructural amenities for the masses welfares has gone adamant and ignorant towards you the poor masses.
Meanwhile....as a lucrative poor citizen, you are opportuned to create your own wealth with the intense of your creativities such as the agricultures which are local infrastructures fitted in for every individuals to engage on.
Foods are essential commodities that everyone are in need of and by so, such amenities could offer one the chances to yielding incomes based on the patronage demands could be highly in needs of your products. And so, you would have all rights of your venture's terms and conditions applicable towards the masses.

It is likewise to let go unproductive pleasures and dispatch from people who are not supportively benefitial to your wills and distance from those who are not subordinate to attain you your desired heights and surround yourself with those on the same missions as you or mingle with those who are potentialed to utter solutions to your problems.
Poverty is in everywhere and it is important to figure out where the problem lies and how to handle the situation.One of the ways to help In my opinion is to create awareness and keep them informed.Keep them informed about the available resources,provide access to basic  
Amenities like housing,availability of food,healthcare services and even financial aid.And all these could lift poor people out of poverty.
 The most important thing here is the information,educational impact and awareness;educate them and teach them skills too as much as you can.The more skillful they become,the more people are willing to pay and the more money they'll make.Like they say "You won't give them a fish,but teach them how to fish."


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: edy_58 on February 10, 2024, 06:20:25 PM
And who should be the solution giver on the poor when everyone is quite busy on his own, we should begin to start with the eradication of the mentality of being dependent on other people or the government for our success, we have to take the responsibility for ourselves and start to tryout new things, we should work on our personal self, create time to discover more about ourselves, build a career profile or learn any valuable skill or trade to help us have something to offer that could get us earnings.
If everyone thinks about themselves of course no one will think about the fate of the people around them, I agree with you, if we have to eliminate dependence on other people and must have the potential we have to survive and if we don't have the skills it will be better. It's good for us to learn skills that can generate income from the skills we have, because if we expect too much from other people, this will be very detrimental to ourselves, so we won't be lazy to try in anything because we expect too much from other people.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: RockBell on February 10, 2024, 06:34:10 PM
There is no way everybody in the country can live well without no poor people in the society because everybody has his or her own desire at the moment and for you to reduce such issues to allow the people to feel the positive side of the economic, is to invest more on agriculture, industries, roads and institution which are some of the things people are lacking these days.

Once there is a surplus industries in the world, it will definitely reduce poor people in the world because those industries will be accommodating numbers of people in the world to eliminate poverty for people to live a good live.
poor people can not be eradicated, because even all the complaints tabled towards the government can not be solved, because the issue of people started ages ago and till now we still have them and a good percentage of people in my own country, and I always think that most of the poor people are comfortable with there situation if not because of that, they would have looked for something to do. there are times when the government has shared motorcycles and even farm machinery and people will end up selling them, so who is to be blamed that is why some of them are still in their condition. even if all industries are built some people are just lazy and will not want to work, people that don't like their condition will look for a way out of that condition.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fiatless on February 10, 2024, 06:40:30 PM
And who should be the solution giver on the poor when everyone is quite busy on his own, we should begin to start with the eradication of the mentality of being dependent on other people or the government for our success, we have to take the responsibility for ourselves and start to tryout new things, we should work on our personal self, create time to discover more about ourselves, build a career profile or learn any valuable skill or trade to help us have something to offer that could get us earnings.
We need to realize from the beginning that we live in a harsh world and there needs to be survival if we want to survive because even though it sounds harsh but the law of the jungle system where the strongest is the one who survives is true only we don't really bring it up because it will be considered a complicated situation but in fact in the application in life this is true where we live based on caste and humans are classified into several economic strata.
I have read history books and I discovered that life was not as bad as it is now. People were not as selfish and greedy as they are now. In those days people were more companionate and considered others but now things have changed and life is now the survival of the fittest. And this new pattern of life has led to an increase in the gap between the rich and poor. The poor have to take responsibility and ensure that they work hard to survive in this jungle-like world.

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But on the other hand this is also for the sake of maintaining the stabilization of the world so that it runs well because if everyone becomes rich then in the end no one wants to work and this will actually break the natural chain that should be well maintained.
Even though it will indeed feel unfair when we live below the poverty line but in the end it is a scheme that cannot be changed because if there are rich then there will definitely be poor but that does not mean we cannot change that destiny it's just that it will be very difficult to do if we do not have any strength in terms of finance and inadequate relationships then in the end we will continue to struggle in the cycle of poverty that occurs.
The world will always have the poor and the rich but the gap between them shouldn't be too much. At least the poor should be able to afford basic needs without too much struggle. In some developed nations majority of citizens have access to what they need to survive. But it breaks my heart when I see the suffering and poverty in developing nations. Coming out from the poverty line is not easy but one has to fight to come out.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: goaldigger on February 10, 2024, 09:51:42 PM
A man's personal life can be managed only with as much money as is needed to manage it. When you are poor society will not appreciate you. So I have to fight all these battles to live a happy life and meet the financial needs of the family. Trying to grow fruits from the land made me tough because they are not easy jobs at all. As the amount of money increases, the scale of respect associated with it will increase more in this society.
Poor will remain poor if they didn’t start working to reach their goals and dreams.
There’s a lot of opportunities out there and most of the time you just need to grab it and make the best out of it. Being poor is not easy at all, and yes you can’t get the respect of others if you will remain poor and don’t have any contribution to the society. Don’t let those people stop you from dreaming, continue doing good and do your best, time will come that you can at least improve your standard of living.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Unbunplease on February 10, 2024, 10:13:29 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: trendcoin on February 10, 2024, 10:58:22 PM
Of course we don't want to see poverty anywhere in the world. When I see poor people, an impulse of shame stirs in and around my heart. However, we should know that the wealth of nations grows when governments intervene least in the market. The only way to eliminate poverty is to implement economic policies that prioritize market dynamism. ...Or, as the OP mentions, it might be a good idea to create a free market with supply under a fixed common value. :)


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: South Park on February 10, 2024, 11:18:44 PM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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How exactly are you going to create a form of money that spoils in a matter of weeks or months? One of the most basic characteristics of money is that it has to be durable, not only that you want for people to create a whole new economic system for themselves, when they could just sell their produce, earn fiat this way and be done with it, remember when given the choice people will pick the easiest solution available to them, and what you are suggesting is too complex for them to implement, without mentioning that it is probably illegal in most countries around the world.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 10, 2024, 11:47:50 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income.

Poverty is a mentality, giving a poor man handout won't solve his problem, they need to be enlighten and taught how to be rich minded. A poor man being given money will still mismanage that money and will be back in the street begging for bread to eat the very next day. Poor people need to help themselves and not waiting for someone to rescue them from their poverty. If they're not willing to do things that'll contributions to eliminating their poverty then all your efforts will be waste of effort trying to help them.

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They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem

Poor people don't just need solutions because solution like charity does no good to a poor man, teach them how to create wealth. Poor people are brainwashed to wait on help instead of them to help themselves from the predicament they're in. The more we keep helping poor people in the society by giving them easy way out, the more we're encouraging others to be lazy and poor. The world isn't for the weak so if we want to live the life of the rich, we have to work first.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Casdinyard on February 10, 2024, 11:58:46 PM
We're live in zero sum games, so it means when there's a rich people, there's also the poor ones. You can't make every poor people to rank up to middle class, when it happens the country's standard will increase and the current "middle class people" might still "the poor" according to their new standards.

Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
Good initiative, the police will catch you because you're issuing your own currency when your government didn't accept your currency as legal tender.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
It's stupid, you need to buy their stock instead of holding fiat.
You're right on the money with some of these pointers. Especially those that has to do with the fact that OP thinks he can just issue economic changes like that out of the blue like dude you're not gonna change the market for the better for issuing Schrutebucks or Stanley Nickels let's be real here.

And while the poor people definitely deserve some break from their lives it's not gonna be up to the government to make them rich people. Let that sink in. We live in a capitalistic society where the government will give you just enough leniency to discover the next best thing since sliced bread and the rest is gonna be up to you. You can't expect your national government to just give you a wad of money and a thank you card. That's a massive recipe for disaster. They did that in the US during the pandemic and even now when most countries have recovered they still couldn't pay their shit. Imagine how it would go even if they do that as a staple provision to the poor people. The world's economy's gonna be in shambles my friend.

The poor people deserve better treatment and solutions to their hierarchal problems, that's true. and if I may I gotta say they are getting the short end of the stick all this time with the fact that they are abused by the upperclass despite the fact that they comprise the entire blue-collar sector. But it's not gonna be through what OP thinks. Those are fucking illegal.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: uswa56 on February 11, 2024, 05:55:16 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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How exactly are you going to create a form of money that spoils in a matter of weeks or months? One of the most basic characteristics of money is that it has to be durable, not only that you want for people to create a whole new economic system for themselves, when they could just sell their produce, earn fiat this way and be done with it, remember when given the choice people will pick the easiest solution available to them, and what you are suggesting is too complex for them to implement, without mentioning that it is probably illegal in most countries around the world.
Everyone will certainly not choose a form of money that can only last a few weeks or months, because most people will collect their money so they can save for their future and this is not possible if the money cannot last long, of course people will look for it. a solution that can make it easier for them, not even make it difficult for them if they use the new system and this of course will not be implemented well, because there are too many losses that might be obtained from the new system.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: bangjoe on February 11, 2024, 08:36:28 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.

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How exactly are you going to create a form of money that spoils in a matter of weeks or months? One of the most basic characteristics of money is that it has to be durable, not only that you want for people to create a whole new economic system for themselves, when they could just sell their produce, earn fiat this way and be done with it, remember when given the choice people will pick the easiest solution available to them, and what you are suggesting is too complex for them to implement, without mentioning that it is probably illegal in most countries around the world.
If you look at everything that has happened, the system is only made for those who have the skills needed by the market so they will get a decent life because all systems whether from money or economics that become a person's selling point are their abilities, in any system that is created if someone is able to adapt and have skills then he will become a person who gets a prosperous life.

Logically, whatever system is created that feels better in one's view and knows there is a new system in finance or economics in the future if we do not have the skills needed by the future market according to the system that is created later then we will remain poor. The crude language is that no one who has a decent life they do not have the ability in life.IMO


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Despairo on February 11, 2024, 09:55:12 AM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Uhwuchukwu53 on February 11, 2024, 10:17:01 AM
Truthfully poor people need solution but not all solution can work for a poor people because poverty is a psychological problem, that is why you see our nation even with all the resources we still see our self as poor nation and under develop. Example look at the level of money other nations do give us to enhance our development but nothing works because the psychological issue is not settled until once mentality is change no solution can be adopted by such person. Poverty  start from the heart any man who heart is afraid to take risk when necessary is already poor because it can't go beyond the level if poverty, there no solution or help can work until the mentality or psychological problem is solved by conquering the fear and taking bold step. Not all solution to a poor person is solution, solution of dashing money to a poor man is like enhancing the status of poverty not actually a solution.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: LesterD on February 11, 2024, 11:09:58 AM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: icalical on February 11, 2024, 12:10:23 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.

Yep, poor people never have much money so they don't know how to manage it. What most people call as poor mentality happened because the system make financial education not easily accessible by poor people, it's not their intention to have poor mentality. And they will gladly and passionately learning about money management when they have the chance. Most people would judge poor people choose to be poor, those judgemental people never want to learn the background of those poor people.

Sure, some poor person might move up the chain with their own power but that's one in a million, most of them will be stay poor no matter how they try to fix their life because the system are surpressing them to stay poor, that's what is called as structural poverty.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Patrol69 on February 11, 2024, 01:27:58 PM
The plans we make for those who are poor don't actually work out. All the farmers in the world should be given the most respect but we don't want to give them respect while we forget that they are producing crops that we can eat. Where the financial position of the farmer is supposed to be good, the position of the poor farmers is not at all good. The general public talks a lot about the farmers in front of the media but they do not see the farmers in a good light. People who are poor don't want to stay poor forever but they don't have much chance to get out of poverty. There is a section of people who have assumed that the children of the poor will be poor and the children of farmers will be farmers. We never go and help them ourselves but we talk about them from a distance. We should help them be it by giving them the right respect or by giving them the right price for the product.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: strunberg on February 11, 2024, 03:19:09 PM
The world will always have the poor and the rich but the gap between them shouldn't be too much. At least the poor should be able to afford basic needs without too much struggle. In some developed nations majority of citizens have access to what they need to survive. But it breaks my heart when I see the suffering and poverty in developing nations. Coming out from the poverty line is not easy but one has to fight to come out.

You are right. We cannot hope for a utopian world where there is no longer any poverty in the world. It was too good to be true. After all, if everyone became rich, how would the world run? If everyone was in business who would be the employees?

I think poor people and rich people will still exist. Just like you said. However, there should not be a gap that is too big. For example, every poor person can get easy access to health and education. The government can help provide/subsidize basic needs such as food, health and education so that poor people do not have to struggle to survive. Some rich countries can do this, but there are still many developing countries where poor people have to struggle to survive.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: tabas on February 11, 2024, 04:06:31 PM
What are you trying to suggest? Are you for real with what you're talking about? It's good with the suggestion to grow your own food but that's a common thing that a normal person does, whether he's rich or poor. It's everyone man's dream to have his own food to grow in his backyard. But with your suggestion of leaving the government and making your own currency. What are you up to? Do you think that you can have your own country by doing that? It's not a solution for you to tell but LOL I don't know why we're taking it seriously.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: bestcoins1 on February 11, 2024, 04:16:36 PM
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.
I have also come across poor people who have traits like that, but poor people are generally like that. There are definitely some of them who are smart at managing their finances even though they themselves rarely hold large amounts of money so they are not used to using money for important things. However, we also need to know that at this time not all poor people are stupid when it comes to using money, because a small number of them also know how to manage money well and spend it on important things without any obstacles.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Mauser on February 11, 2024, 04:28:06 PM

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

It makes a lot of sense for smaller communities to trade locally and first satisfy their needs with local products instead of buying from large corporations that produce in very far away. If the farmers have a direct connection to the customer it saves a lot for the farmer, he would otherwise have to pay to a middle man for transportation and selling. The best would be to trade directly for other products so you don't have to use money at all, switching now to your own money could lead to a lot of problems. The government will likely not accept citizens just having their own money, because every sale and transaction requires to pay taxes. How would the taxes be paid if people only have their own money? The government wouldn't except anything else than their own fiat money. This could likely lead to legal problems and people would be scarred to use your own money.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: suzanne5223 on February 11, 2024, 07:07:42 PM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Yes, the system is always not created to favor the needs of the common but who is going to create the community money backed by food and fruits?
Besides, if you want the concept of Bitcoin this was the exact reason BTC was created by Satoshi and most of the poor people that joined early are now millionaires.

Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor
Food is not what solves the problem of financial status per se but it can solve the hunger issue and provide an opportunity.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: naikturun on February 11, 2024, 07:10:20 PM
I think a large number of people will find it difficult to see this, let's just say people on this forum read your post and understand what you are saying but what about people out there?
I think they are so busy working that they forget what they really need, this system has been created a long time ago, and it will be difficult to get rid of it.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: GbitG on February 11, 2024, 08:36:11 PM
I think poor people and rich people will still exist. Just like you said. However, there should not be a gap that is too big. For example, every poor person can get easy access to health and education. The government can help provide/subsidize basic needs such as food, health and education so that poor people do not have to struggle to survive. Some rich countries can do this, but there are still many developing countries where poor people have to struggle to survive.

It's true, that no matter how developed a country is and how *organized* and well-managed its system and government are, there will always be poor people because they don't work to finish poverty, they don't care much about that. The USA is one of the most developed countries in the world, and you can find homeless people sleeping on the streets looking at every passing individual hoping to get some help and food because they are hungry and helpless.

If that is the situation of the world's superpower country, what do you expect from countries that don't even have a good government to talk about? There are only a few countries in the world where you can barely find a poor person because they believe in financial equality and all their people are provided with education from the beginning so that they can find jobs and live a good life, but that isn't the case all around the world.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Renampun on February 12, 2024, 01:49:38 PM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

So far I believe and indeed I feel that the presence of banks really helps people whether they are poor or rich and I think so far nothing can replace the role of banks in people's lives, some alternatives that look pretty good like crypto which on the other hand can make people know more and feel about its benefits in life but basically not all people can accept the presence of something that is considered to be a solution or savior, and of course for this problem it is the business of the government that has the power which of course can convince and increase trust in the community if it is necessary to make changes.

Humans are now very dependent on banks, in fact the current world economic cycle is driven by banks as a place for entry and exit of fiat currency and with the emergence of cryptocurrencies, this has encouraged banks to adopt cryptocurrencies with the aim of following trends. 
Currently there are several banks that are starting to study how blockchain technology works and have also started trying to adopt it. The presence of banks cannot be removed from human life today, since the beginning of the emergence of banks, it has been inherent.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: lixer on February 12, 2024, 04:18:32 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
You are right that there's often a lack of proper financial management skills in the poor because they are mostly illiterate as they can't afford studies and even if they did study a little bit when they were young, they never had enough money they could manage properly to learn management skills when it comes to finances, so they lack such skills which is why when they manage to get a lot of money from somewhere all of a sudden, they don't understand how they should use it, so they waste most or all of it.

However, this isn't limited just to one financial class, even a person who is rich but didn't earn the money themselves but just got all the wealth in inheritance, would barely be able to manage things properly, and will eventually spend it all and wealth will keep reducing and their businesses will shut down eventually for a lack of management.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: LesterD on February 12, 2024, 06:14:51 PM
That is because it's often a rare occurrence for the poor to have money. When they do come into possession of money, they may not know how to handle it properly. They tend to spend it on unnecessary things that they've never been able to afford before, rather than investing it. This is because they lack knowledge and experience in making financial decisions.
I have also come across poor people who have traits like that, but poor people are generally like that. There are definitely some of them who are smart at managing their finances even though they themselves rarely hold large amounts of money so they are not used to using money for important things. However, we also need to know that at this time not all poor people are stupid when it comes to using money, because a small number of them also know how to manage money well and spend it on important things without any obstacles.
Yes, and since they are in that kind of situation, Some people are uncertain of the best way to invest their money. This confusion can be compounded by the influence of family and friends who encourage them to spend it on activities that are enjoyable and fun. Without them realizing that the money they have will be easily spent.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: milewilda on February 12, 2024, 06:23:34 PM
Banks are essential whereever you life - can you find any alternative to them - yet? that is easy to use and everyone accepts is and has access to it? Nope, I dont and I am sure you dont as well.

While I do appreciate the enthusiasm to find an alternative and pitch crypto as the savior, you need to improve its acceptance in the locality first. Maybe then the government will take notice and do something different?

So far I believe and indeed I feel that the presence of banks really helps people whether they are poor or rich and I think so far nothing can replace the role of banks in people's lives, some alternatives that look pretty good like crypto which on the other hand can make people know more and feel about its benefits in life but basically not all people can accept the presence of something that is considered to be a solution or savior, and of course for this problem it is the business of the government that has the power which of course can convince and increase trust in the community if it is necessary to make changes.

Humans are now very dependent on banks, in fact the current world economic cycle is driven by banks as a place for entry and exit of fiat currency and with the emergence of cryptocurrencies, this has encouraged banks to adopt cryptocurrencies with the aim of following trends. 
Currently there are several banks that are starting to study how blockchain technology works and have also started trying to adopt it. The presence of banks cannot be removed from human life today, since the beginning of the emergence of banks, it has been inherent.
As long government exist then those centralized institutions would really be that existing no matter what and since all of people do really had been dealing up with traditional stuffs then its not really that shocking
anymore that we would really be sticking into something on which we know that this is something that would be normal for people on sticking on. Banks might recognize blockchain technology but it would really be just that good into that on which we know that there's no way that we could really be able to force them on dealing or integrating those decentralized cryptocurrencies that currently expecting
This is why as of today on which this market had existed then it did really give out that kind of opportunity for us on dealing up with something that we can be able to have those other opportunities
for us to make some income which it cant be that something be traced or monitored. Being poor isnt a mistake though but what makes it wrong is on the moment that you wont really be finding
yourself some alternative for you to make yourself that at least progressive on the time that you do live.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Vinaa77 on February 12, 2024, 08:18:48 PM
Humans are now very dependent on banks, in fact the current world economic cycle is driven by banks as a place for entry and exit of fiat currency and with the emergence of cryptocurrencies, this has encouraged banks to adopt cryptocurrencies with the aim of following trends. 
Currently there are several banks that are starting to study how blockchain technology works and have also started trying to adopt it. The presence of banks cannot be removed from human life today, since the beginning of the emergence of banks, it has been inherent.
All activities today will be closely related to banks and everyone who wants to pay for the goods they want to buy uses money and if they order goods somewhere of course they need the money in their bank account to be able to pay for the goods they want to have. and with the emergence of crypto, this will create another alternative for making payments, but not all places can accept crypto as a form of payment that we can get in every place, like fiat currency.

Yes, it is indeed impossible that the banking system can be easily removed from human life because it has been deeply embedded in people's daily lives as a means of storing money and also as a legal means of payment in every country.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: kuriboh on February 13, 2024, 02:38:39 AM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
You are right that there's often a lack of proper financial management skills in the poor because they are mostly illiterate as they can't afford studies and even if they did study a little bit when they were young, they never had enough money they could manage properly to learn management skills when it comes to finances, so they lack such skills which is why when they manage to get a lot of money from somewhere all of a sudden, they don't understand how they should use it, so they waste most or all of it.

However, this isn't limited just to one financial class, even a person who is rich but didn't earn the money themselves but just got all the wealth in inheritance, would barely be able to manage things properly, and will eventually spend it all and wealth will keep reducing and their businesses will shut down eventually for a lack of management.
Agree with you because what you said is the correct reality. Those who are poor are backward in every way. A poor influence can be seen in their thinking, mentality and everything. If some money suddenly comes to them, they get emotional and cannot manage it properly. Once it is seen that they have nothing, they become poor again as before. If they approach it properly with humanity and work with the future in mind, only good things are possible.  Besides, nothing good is possible.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: viananda2525 on February 13, 2024, 03:39:46 AM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
You are right that there's often a lack of proper financial management skills in the poor because they are mostly illiterate as they can't afford studies and even if they did study a little bit when they were young, they never had enough money they could manage properly to learn management skills when it comes to finances, so they lack such skills which is why when they manage to get a lot of money from somewhere all of a sudden, they don't understand how they should use it, so they waste most or all of it.

However, this isn't limited just to one financial class, even a person who is rich but didn't earn the money themselves but just got all the wealth in inheritance, would barely be able to manage things properly, and will eventually spend it all and wealth will keep reducing and their businesses will shut down eventually for a lack of management.
People who experience the fate of poverty certainly have quite a heavy burden on their minds, financial problems that they have to think about every day make them always fail to think positively. I don't think that people who have the fate of being poor are a result of laziness, but rather that they are destined to come from poor families for generations and it is very difficult to get out of that zone. Unless the government and companies are really serious about helping them by providing financial assistance and job training to create creative self-development. In other cases, I am also very annoyed to see people who waste opportunities, let alone spend their inheritance and are wasteful and that is how poverty will continue to plague them.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: poodle63 on February 13, 2024, 06:16:53 AM
Yes, and since they are in that kind of situation, Some people are uncertain of the best way to invest their money. This confusion can be compounded by the influence of family and friends who encourage them to spend it on activities that are enjoyable and fun. Without them realizing that the money they have will be easily spent.
this is the importance of financial education, i think education about financial should be free so people know what they are doing with their money, lets be frank here people who have no idea about how money work will just thinking about buying thing they want to buy by the means of saving, for financially educated people, that might not be the best. after all, if we can invest and get passive income instead, we might be able to buy stuff we need while retaining our capital not throwing it around.
thats the advantage of being educated about finance, we know what we can do with the money in our hands, this is also the reason why people are really heard to get out of poverty, because lacking of financial education.
financial education should take place first these days.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: junder on February 13, 2024, 10:40:15 AM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
You are right that there's often a lack of proper financial management skills in the poor because they are mostly illiterate as they can't afford studies and even if they did study a little bit when they were young, they never had enough money they could manage properly to learn management skills when it comes to finances, so they lack such skills which is why when they manage to get a lot of money from somewhere all of a sudden, they don't understand how they should use it, so they waste most or all of it.

However, this isn't limited just to one financial class, even a person who is rich but didn't earn the money themselves but just got all the wealth in inheritance, would barely be able to manage things properly, and will eventually spend it all and wealth will keep reducing and their businesses will shut down eventually for a lack of management.
People who experience the fate of poverty certainly have quite a heavy burden on their minds, financial problems that they have to think about every day make them always fail to think positively. I don't think that people who have the fate of being poor are a result of laziness, but rather that they are destined to come from poor families for generations and it is very difficult to get out of that zone. Unless the government and companies are really serious about helping them by providing financial assistance and job training to create creative self-development. In other cases, I am also very annoyed to see people who waste opportunities, let alone spend their inheritance and are wasteful and that is how poverty will continue to plague them.

In my opinion, the problem that often occurs in every family is finances. This is a major problem that often occurs in many circles of society, lack of employment opportunities may be one of the problems, also currently many young people are lazy to work because they are trapped in a comfort zone even though it does not produce clear income such as collecting money. with their friends from night to morning just to stay up late playing games, this is not profitable but is detrimental to their health, and I call them a burden on the family.

In my opinion, even if the government helps, it won't be much help, if the help is in the form of objects, maybe it would be better for the government to provide decent work for them. Even though they don't have the skills, I think if they have awareness they will force themselves to work in order to produce results. If poverty is destiny then we have to change it, and that is up to our own desires, because no one wants to stay in poverty, I think everyone definitely wants financial freedom, but there are still many of them who are lazy, because it is destiny Being poor doesn't mean you don't have to work or try, of course as humans we have to be willing to try to achieve success, and effort will not betray the results. That's a saying that I instilled in myself, if we ourselves have good efforts then there will definitely be good results.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: LesterD on February 13, 2024, 06:46:17 PM
Yes, and since they are in that kind of situation, Some people are uncertain of the best way to invest their money. This confusion can be compounded by the influence of family and friends who encourage them to spend it on activities that are enjoyable and fun. Without them realizing that the money they have will be easily spent.
this is the importance of financial education, i think education about financial should be free so people know what they are doing with their money, lets be frank here people who have no idea about how money work will just thinking about buying thing they want to buy by the means of saving, for financially educated people, that might not be the best. after all, if we can invest and get passive income instead, we might be able to buy stuff we need while retaining our capital not throwing it around.
thats the advantage of being educated about finance, we know what we can do with the money in our hands, this is also the reason why people are really heard to get out of poverty, because lacking of financial education.
financial education should take place first these days.
Which is we don't. Financial education should begin in high school, rather than being limited to a specific course during college. It is commonly taught that students should work hard and finish their studies to secure a good job after graduation. However, there is often a lack of guidance on financial management, such as investing money and managing finances.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: MissNonFall9 on February 16, 2024, 02:47:03 PM
What is most important to solve the problems of poor people is to create mass awareness. This should be taken up first by the government the second and main way is to create awareness among ourselves and commit ourselves to finding solutions to the current problems. Above all, one must move forward with what one has, one cannot stop at what one is doing.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Kelvinid on February 16, 2024, 03:15:59 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem
Poor people don't like to be poor, that's why they use all of their money to buy anything that they likes to impress other people. Actually rich people are like to be poor because when they're in progress to build their wealth, they're need to limit their spending and use most of their money for investment.

Poor people don't like to be poor, but their mindset makes them to stay poor.
A luxurious lifestyle makes a poor person poorer. That is a wrong mindset as they care about how to impress others but not how to prepare for their future.
Poor should not compete with how rich people look as they have a lot of money to buy anything without worrying about where to get it.

I see now the need of the poor people is not a job but a need to be educated on financial management. As long as they don't value their money and use it wisely, it only be wasted and spent on useless stuff. They need an education that helps them see how to value their hard-earned money and help them realize that we need to change our lifestyle even if we increase our income as instead of using our extra money for nonsense, may it used to invest. Because this is the best way to have financial freedom.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: vs2014 on February 16, 2024, 04:19:39 PM
I have my own lands and they are not cheap at all but i will refuse to sell them because the current food production sector is not good due to which food is bought at a high price. So i can use my land for production of different food products to cope with the situation. However i have very little means of earning money so it is important to hold the land. I am not obsessed with getting rich but i want to accumulate enough money to live a decent life.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: bestcoins1 on February 16, 2024, 08:27:28 PM
Yes, and since they are in that kind of situation, Some people are uncertain of the best way to invest their money. This confusion can be compounded by the influence of family and friends who encourage them to spend it on activities that are enjoyable and fun. Without them realizing that the money they have will be easily spent.

The influence of the living environment is always there and it also depends on each of us personally how we respond to it, because for people who are not easily influenced by other people's words regarding what they will do, of course that person will not listen to what the other person says. Money is always easy to spend, but what we need to remember here is that it is not easy to get it back except by continuing to try endlessly through work and work. So before listening to what other people say, it's a good idea to make more mature considerations, because our future is only determined by our own attitudes, not by other people.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: erep on February 16, 2024, 10:02:43 PM
Yes, and since they are in that kind of situation, Some people are uncertain of the best way to invest their money. This confusion can be compounded by the influence of family and friends who encourage them to spend it on activities that are enjoyable and fun. Without them realizing that the money they have will be easily spent.

The influence of the living environment is always there and it also depends on each of us personally how we respond to it, because for people who are not easily influenced by other people's words regarding what they will do, of course that person will not listen to what the other person says. Money is always easy to spend, but what we need to remember here is that it is not easy to get it back except by continuing to try endlessly through work and work. So before listening to what other people say, it's a good idea to make more mature considerations, because our future is only determined by our own attitudes, not by other people.
We must have principles in managing our own finances, never follow other people's advice which worsens our financial condition and every high spending decision must be considered except for the priority scale, it is very easy for us to make large expenditures but we are not aware of the financial dynamics that can change depending on use of finances, some people often indulge in activities that are not necessary.

we have to organize our finances for stable use of our finances and we have to get a permanent job to get a stable income, make sure we allocate every income and salary to save


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on February 19, 2024, 07:09:16 PM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.

Actually earning is not everything but managing your salary is a big thing that play an important role in your future success. There are large number of people who in past had Larger salaries but still they are poor because they spend whole money without planning for future.

Government can just provide you job other management is your headache if you want to secure your future you will not depend whole money in present. Some people don't want to work but they wants to gather money free of cost and free of hardwork but they forget that only hardworkers can make their life better.

Find a good job and if possible then also be a participant of part time job after that you have to learn about handling situations with minimum amount of money and save some amount for the purpose of investment so you can change your condition easily.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: umbara ardian on February 19, 2024, 07:58:07 PM
Creating their own crypto or whatever might sound cool, but let's be real, surviving day-to-day takes all their energy. Building fancy systems is like trying to cook a gourmet meal when your fridge is bare. Small-scale bartering might seem like a throwback solution, but it's got its own issues. Imagine haggling over the value of a potato like it's a used car – messy and confusing, not exactly a recipe for economic progress.

Education, though? Now that's a power move! Leveling up your skills and knowledge is like giving yourself a superpower – it unlocks doors to better jobs, more opportunities, and the chance to break free from the struggle. But here's the thing, education ain't a magic wand. Unequal access, unfair hiring practices, and limited opportunities can still trip people up. We gotta fix those systemic issues too, like smashing down barriers and creating a level playing field for everyone.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: letteredhub on February 19, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
So where do you take the utility from when they have to use a community based currency? because in terms of the financial system, they need back-up, recognition, and legal legality so that the value of the public currency is guaranteed, not only for transactions, but to prove the support for this value must also be clear. You won't necessarily create community money if you can't guarantee its value yourself. Moreover, if you live in a country that has recognized fiat then it would be very futile, it would be the same as trying to stage a coup by creating new money and could be considered a violation of misuse of resources..
Op is so funny to even think of creating a currency of his own under a ruling and constitutionally recognized government in which the community of his he might be talking about might be making up just a 1% of the totally country's population. Even as that, a currency represent a country and it's sovereignty as a legally recognized entity Internationally.

So it's just a nonsense theory Op is presenting and no one need to take this into consideration, never except you're all ready to stage a war with the ruling government in the country just as we have in some nations today where a group of insurgent have taking a strong hold of some locations in the country and as such could decide to make use of anything they feel could be a currency for them, but yet that doesn't make it internationally recognized in the global market.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: martinex on February 20, 2024, 01:46:23 AM
Friends, that's good, but we also have to remember that we live in a country that has regulations, which I mean is still using the money that has been spent for transactions. If you want to do business without wanting to save money in the bank, that's a good thing to do.

So, getting out of this problem certainly requires effort and support from rich people who want to care about this by forming a community like you want to do and explaining the working pattern so that it makes sense, where in the future the circulation of money will continue to be sustainable from beginning to end and continue to circulate. play in the community. For example, a cattle fattening business or something else.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: MissNonFall9 on March 22, 2024, 06:06:08 AM
Friends, that's good, but we also have to remember that we live in a country that has regulations, which I mean is still using the money that has been spent for transactions. If you want to do business without wanting to save money in the bank, that's a good thing to do.

So, getting out of this problem certainly requires effort and support from rich people who want to care about this by forming a community like you want to do and explaining the working pattern so that it makes sense, where in the future the circulation of money will continue to be sustainable from beginning to end and continue to circulate. play in the community. For example, a cattle fattening business or something else.
Yes you have said the very basic point that to overcome this problem, the intervention of upper-class people and powerful people is very necessary. Many people in society are trying hard to earn or to get out of poverty but need a small initiative that can be done by upper-class people or powerful people. As an example I can talk about a big car with all the parts in place and the parts ready to work only needing to turn a small key to move the big car forward.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Samlucky O on March 22, 2024, 07:46:21 AM
If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.
In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

The solution the poor need is changing their mindset and start becoming productive. If the agriculture you explain is a starting point I guest they should explore in which ever way they can do better.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: |MINER| on March 22, 2024, 04:47:54 PM
As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on March 22, 2024, 07:21:18 PM
As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment
That is what is happening now because all of us want reciprocity, so there is no possibility of getting it if we do anything with poor people.
But I don't think farmers are poor people, I don't think so because they are people who are able to meet their living needs.

The poor are those who don't know where to find income so everything is done with the limited trust many people have in them which makes it even more difficult.
Hard work that is done more than other people is a form of effort that poor people make so that they can get out of this situation, and it is a difficult thing that not many people can do.
therefore, they need a solution or way out.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 22, 2024, 07:45:34 PM
As human beings we are all the same. But we all do injustice to the poor.We look at them with discrimination.And this has been going on for ages.The poor are deprived and abused everywhere.But it is through these poor that we meet our food needs and do other things.How will we meet our food needs if the poor farmers do not produce crops? If we think a little deeper we can stop ourselves from the discrimination we do.Those who depend on them will surely suffer a harassment
That is what is happening now because all of us want reciprocity, so there is no possibility of getting it if we do anything with poor people.
But I don't think farmers are poor people, I don't think so because they are people who are able to meet their living needs.

The poor are those who don't know where to find income so everything is done with the limited trust many people have in them which makes it even more difficult.
Hard work that is done more than other people is a form of effort that poor people make so that they can get out of this situation, and it is a difficult thing that not many people can do.
therefore, they need a solution or way out.
Whether we do like it or not on which there would really be those people who are living on poor state on a certain community on which it would really be just that understandable on living into this world where
inequality is something that always been part of this world that we do live. If you are someone whose really been that included into these brackets then it would really be just that right that you should
really be doing your bets or make that hard work on finding ways on making yourself that better when it comes to finances. Some would really be just that contented on where they are now or what condition
that they are dealing off with and some wont really be projecting their life on the current living that they are into and this is why they would really be adding up hard work and dealings into
those opportunities that could bring out that possible lift you up into poverty or poor life.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: tyz on March 22, 2024, 08:04:42 PM
In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

You've raised good points about the mindset and habits that can contribute to poverty or wealth. It's true that fear of failure, procrastination, and lack of exploration can limit one's potential. The rich tend to invest time in learning, strategizing, and seizing opportunities while the poor may not. However its important to note that external factors, like socio-economic conditions and systemic inequalities, also play a significant role in wealth distribution. It's not just about mindset, but also about opportunities and resources available.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: btc78 on March 22, 2024, 08:30:39 PM
There is so much flaws about your statement. First of all, what kind of authority do you have to impose a currency of your own in one community even more so policies and regulations? How are you so sure that people are going to use the currency you had just created. Yes, you can create a currency of your own if you do not want to use fiat but what use is it for if you’re the only one using it? Even you won’t be able to use it if no one else sees it as an official currency.

Even growing your own food would still require you to use fiat. There are so much more things you have to pay for in fiat. This is why cryptocurrencies aren’t yet used widely: the rest of the world is still using fiat.

It’s not that easy to create your own currency especially the poor ones who some are illiterate and do not have enough funds nor the ability to create ones.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: batang_bitcoin on March 22, 2024, 08:54:46 PM
It’s not that easy to create your own currency especially the poor ones who some are illiterate and do not have enough funds nor the ability to create ones.
Creating another currency requires a lot of things for it to have its own value. Like the altcoins in the market, there have been a bunch of them but for one to have its own value, there should be the valuation process on how it's going to be given how valuable it is and the price of it per share or token. It just sounds easy but it's improbable that someone who's going to make his/her own currency to become successful with it. Do some attempts and you'll never see any window of success on it.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Claudeake on March 22, 2024, 10:09:16 PM
I hope the solutions to improve on the welfare of the poor in the society rest on massive production of agricultural crops and other things. The growth and development of any society takes this formula.
The currency options would encounter difficulties and opposition.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Volimack on March 23, 2024, 03:41:07 AM
Poor people are much neglected in the society they are victims of discrimination and injustice towards them. If these are not improved it will never be possible to solve the problems of poor people. Social equality must be provided to eliminate poverty. Must ensure their work according to skill qualification and perfection. Distribution of work according to social status and qualifications will reduce the problems of the poor. Poverty can be eradicated by increasing savings.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Dewiana on March 23, 2024, 08:55:19 AM
My people in the province have lands, can sustain themselves fairly well, yet still categorized as poor by the indices proposed by organizations. They don't have much money in the bank, but their lands are worth millions and refuse to sell that because that's what they only know. They can adapt to any changes in the economy, and that's the 'poor' people I aspire to be.

When you increase in the societal ladder in terms of finances, you also increase your expenses which makes it harder for you to fill your 'needs'. These simple people from above do what they do best and are living happy lives because they have food to eat and land to farm on. They don't ask for anything else except good harvest. I guess, if you're self-sustainable, you don't need that much money and can still become 'poor' to the eyes of other people.
Every year the poverty rate increases, due to the lack of employment opportunities and daily costs, namely clothing and food, increasing. In Indonesia itself, if one month's income is only less than $6.85 per day, it is considered poor because it does not meet daily needs. Another cause is that people are pampered with credit from money to family needs such as cars and so on, even though this also causes poverty.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fortify on March 23, 2024, 09:00:18 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.

There has been and will always be a segment of society that will be classed as "poor" or some sort of bottom rung on the economic ladder. People have also been trying to solve this problem since the beginning of time, it is not a sudden brainwave that only you have had in this moment. Banks are an easy scapegoat but they are not really the problem. It is the politicians of your country who set the rules and allow these certain activities that you deem to be wrong. Banks are just like any other company, trying to make a profit out of a perfectly legitimate activity, at the most basic that is paying interest to savers and charging people who want to borrow money, while also facilitating trade by account holders.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Bloodseekers on March 23, 2024, 09:50:11 AM
Poor people are much neglected in the society they are victims of discrimination and injustice towards them. If these are not improved it will never be possible to solve the problems of poor people. Social equality must be provided to eliminate poverty. Must ensure their work according to skill qualification and perfection. Distribution of work according to social status and qualifications will reduce the problems of the poor. Poverty can be eradicated by increasing savings.
In this case, of course, poor people will continue to be victims of injustice and they will also continue to be oppressed by circumstances, so it is important for the government to be able to think about poor people so that they are no longer oppressed, as you mentioned earlier, that with social equality, of course they will be able to helping the condition of the community and giving them the opportunity to learn skills, of course this is one solution and if they can learn it well of course this will provide income from the skills they have and will really help their economy to be better from the previous.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: KiaKia on March 23, 2024, 10:01:51 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
There is nothing you can do to stop people from being poor, and the existence of poor people isn't that bad, it just balance things out, if you are rich you can help some people if you want, if you over do it, you will also get broke.

The facts about people generally is that we can't all be smart, some people will be more capable than others, some people will have more wills and gut than others, and faith in self is also a part too.

Many poor people don't want to be safe, they don't see themselves as poor, meaning that you can't change what you don't hate, if you hate being poor you can easily avoid being poor, I have had many experiences with this in my life, you see them as poor, they see themselves as divine beings.

About your thoughts on food, that's completely not right, who doesn't have land for farming? Which country lacks loamy soil? Many people plant and reap but is that ever enough? Why hasn't this solved the world problem? No matter what you do, people will be poor and some will be rich, it's left for those who are rich to touch the lives of those who are poor, even if all you can do is change the lives of 2 humans, it's more than enough.

Everything isn't about money, ideas are greater, and if you can shine some light on their darkness, you will be rewarded by the creator of this universe.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: WillyAp on March 23, 2024, 01:01:32 PM

In this case, of course, poor people will continue to be victims of injustice and they will also continue to be oppressed by circumstances, so it is important for the government to be able to think about poor people so that they are no longer oppressed, as you mentioned earlier, that with social equality, of course they will be able to helping the condition of the community and giving them the opportunity to learn skills, of course this is one solution and if they can learn it well of course this will provide income from the skills they have and will really help their economy to be better from the previous.

It's pretty hard to leave a victim role.
The good thing is that being used to do something is not set in stone, behavior can change once it must.
User-behavior in Search engines has changed, it took 10+ years.   


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: bettercrypto on March 23, 2024, 05:09:39 PM
If the poor people need solutions, that means even the rich need solutions to their financial or business problems, right?
But of course poor people face more problems compared to rich people; that's obvious, and there's no need to ask honestly.

That's why poor people should be more strategic so that they can solve their problems immediately and prevent them.
Then the masses should also know the program that their government has for the poor to help them in their circumstances.



Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 23, 2024, 05:23:19 PM
If the poor people need solutions, that means even the rich need solutions to their financial or business problems, right?
But of course poor people face more problems compared to rich people; that's obvious, and there's no need to ask honestly.

That's why poor people should be more strategic so that they can solve their problems immediately and prevent them.
Then the masses should also know the program that their government has for the poor to help them in their circumstances.

That makes sense, because even though they are rich doesn't mean they don't have problems, and maybe the problems occur in other things apart from finances, such as relationships. As far as I know, rich people usually have sufficient and stable finances, but they don't have good family relationships, sometimes they have problems with their family relationships being less than harmonious, because there are people who only focus on their careers so they don't have time to get together, if at all. There is free time, sometimes I prefer to use it to rest. and of course, if rich people have a business, they might have problems in their business as you said, because it is impossible for the business they run to continue to run well, there is a small possibility that there will be problems.

The main problem of poor people is of course finances, they definitely have problems, the main one being unstable finances. and to overcome this of course they have to earn money by working to improve their financial situation, because if not them then who will?
However, in my opinion, there are many people who are still lacking financially and economically, maybe because it is difficult to find work or maybe they don't have the desire to work and improve their family finances, but if that's the case, I think it's serious, because of course everyone wants financial freedom, so they have to fix it myself.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Egii Nna on March 23, 2024, 10:11:58 PM
If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.
In all your explanations this is where i got a point. I agree with you on this aspect of poor people continue thesame system. The reason why most people are poor is because there mind is sticked to what they know, and may never try to explore new things. The poor thinks the rich are born to be rich why the poor are also born to be poor not knowing that the rich makes use of opportunity given to them and utilize it. But the poor always have double though and keep procrastinating and see things in awkward ways becoming jealous of other people success instead of making a move by taking a bold step. Most at time the fear of failure is the reason behind not achieve greater things. Sometimes your mind keeps telling you you can't do it. And you feel it's difficult, but when you make a move at first, it may look discouraging but after several attempts you discover that you where the one who was delaying yourself. I have been in that state before and I know how it feels to see other people above you yet you can't be like them. But one other thing is that rich men don't sleep like poor men. They do more research and strategies on how to grow in wisdom and succeed in there endeavours.

Many poor people are unproductive, or should I just say their perception of things, especially when it comes to how to get rich, because most of the time they are the ones that always claim to have money but they have nothing, and I can admit that some poor people are the laziest people in the universe. When I say lazy, I don’t mean they are not working, but they are sometimes not working smartly. 

A rich man will never pray to earn a salary but rather create a space where he will employ some workers to pay them a salary, which is what is explained as working smart. A poor man will always have a dream to start working under someone else and get that salary, but if you take a deep look into salary, you will know that it is just a scheme that will keep putting you in debt for the period of your working at a particular organisation or working place. If you become the one who provides jobs for others just to pay them and you get more than what they will be paid as workers to pay them salary, which is what is explained as working smart, A poor man will always have a dream to start working under someone else and get that salary, but if you take a deep look into salary, you will know that it is just a scheme that will keep putting you in debt for the period of your working at a particular organization or working place. If you become the one who provides jobs for others just to pay them and you get more than what they will be paid as a worker, it will continue to bring you profit for the period that the business is no longer active. 

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The solution the poor need is changing their mindset and start becoming productive. If the agriculture you explain is a starting point I guest they should explore in which ever way they can do better.

Involvement in agriculture is not just for the poor but for all, both the poor and the rich, because presently, it is mostly the rich that benefit from agriculture because they have the mind to take risks, whereas if a poor man takes a risk, it is better for them to eat food. But being creative will go a long way towards reducing the rate of poverty in society because what you create is like a job opportunity to give others space for happiness. 


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Tony116 on March 30, 2024, 07:14:13 PM
Often poor people like to be poor.  They are given a chance - for example, a big lottery win - but they spend it all without investing anything in the possibility of a steady income. They buy villas, cars, furniture in huge quantities, without thinking that they have to maintain it all. In the end, the money runs out - and the balance sheet is a pile of illiquid. They sell the rest for pennies, which they also spend. Poverty is often a psychological problem

That is true. Most of the poor people are uneducated which is why they do not have any idea how to invest their small money. An educated person knows about how to invest his/her little money or savings into a business. On the other hand, poor people who don't have any knowledge about business or investment, can't make money. So education plays a vital role in anyone's financial literacy and his investment knowledge. to manage your finances you must have your own knowledge of what you are doing, you can't depend on others and can't copy others in financial issues.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on March 31, 2024, 04:47:43 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
Entrepreneurship is the best thing in life because instead of being dependent on others, becoming an entrepreneur and earning something yourself is the biggest gain if you can grow yourself with that money. People can be entrepreneurs in different ways, some do business, some cultivate agricultural land, some grow fruits, some do animal husbandry. Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship. If a person can be an entrepreneur then his life will be successful without depending on anyone. The condition of my country is very bad, there is no way to go well in this country. Government jobs are not available in my country. If you go to get a company job, there are many jobs. If a man from my country can become an entrepreneur, I think he can definitely get good results. Because my country is riverside, my country is full of arable land, if you plant any thing in this country, you will get a lot of success. What you have said here I think if a person follows your advice he doesn't have to depend on the government he can lead his life on his own and create a better future.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Rabata on March 31, 2024, 06:17:38 AM
I have my own lands and they are not cheap at all but i will refuse to sell them because the current food production sector is not good due to which food is bought at a high price. So i can use my land for production of different food products to cope with the situation. However i have very little means of earning money so it is important to hold the land. I am not obsessed with getting rich but i want to accumulate enough money to live a decent life.
A man cannot be afflicted by poverty if he is self-fulfilled in food. And he will never be poor if there is a positive environment for food production to become self-sufficient in food. It is not unusual for many people in various communities who have a lot of land but do not make proper use of that land to experience poverty. Poverty alleviation requires people to understand why poverty occurs and how it can be eradicated. Prosperity can never be achieved by relying on government alone. A government can provide employment to a few people but it can never provide employment to a large population. Moreover, it is almost impossible to progress in a country where the citizens look towards the government rather than production. The more developed the citizens of the country, the government of that country will be more stronger in all aspects.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Antonil on March 31, 2024, 07:30:23 AM
Poor people need a solution but do poor people really find solutions to their own problems? About 80% of the world's poor people's thoughts keep them poor all their lives. For example, if you give a certain amount of money to a poor person to spend on their own work, you will see that instead of helping them, they will buy more clothes, furniture, mobile phones, etc. But don't invest in a place that will be of use to them in the near future. On the upside if you offer them a specific job opportunity without paying a specific amount of money.  But they will stay with that job, they will not look for another job if they have one job. This is why I think poverty is a human problem.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: adiksau0414 on March 31, 2024, 01:48:38 PM
By creating their own community currency backed by food and fruits, communities can take control of their own economic destinies and no longer rely on a system that does not serve their needs. This way, they can ensure that wealth stays within their community and that they have the power to set their own rates and rules. By prioritizing self-sufficiency and cooperation within the community, they can truly prosper and thrive. It is important for communities to realize their own potential and take action to create a system that works for them, rather than continuing to rely on a flawed and unjust system.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Haunebu on March 31, 2024, 02:09:20 PM
There will always be poor people just like the middle class and rich op. No solution will change any of this. As the world population continues rising, the number of people in each category will continue rising too.

High income individuals in first world countries will continue rising while low income individuals in third world countries will continue rising too. This is reality sadly.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fara Chan on March 31, 2024, 04:28:09 PM
Poor people need a solution but do poor people really find solutions to their own problems? About 80% of the world's poor people's thoughts keep them poor all their lives. For example, if you give a certain amount of money to a poor person to spend on their own work, you will see that instead of helping them, they will buy more clothes, furniture, mobile phones, etc. But don't invest in a place that will be of use to them in the near future. On the upside if you offer them a specific job opportunity without paying a specific amount of money.  But they will stay with that job, they will not look for another job if they have one job. This is why I think poverty is a human problem.

Poverty is not only a humanitarian problem, but it is also a caste in life because if examined more deeply, it very often arises from the thoughts of someone who is not experiencing any progress. So poverty can be created very easily in people's lives, because if we make a small example like giving a little money to poor people. They are more likely to use it for clothes and food so they don't remember that they can use the money as capital to invest in their own future.

So that the condition of remaining poor in themselves will continue for a longer time as long as they do not want to change their way of thinking to become better and more advanced in utilizing existing capital. And from what you said about poor people, I have also found that they really don't remember any effort when they are given money in an easy way. So they spend it more often on things that are less important to themselves and that's what causes them not to get meaningful changes in their lives.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Xcode7 on March 31, 2024, 05:02:25 PM
Poverty is not only a humanitarian problem, but it is also a caste in life because if examined more deeply, it very often arises from the thoughts of someone who is not experiencing any progress. So poverty can be created very easily in people's lives, because if we make a small example like giving a little money to poor people. They are more likely to use it for clothes and food so they don't remember that they can use the money as capital to invest in their own future.

So that the condition of remaining poor in themselves will continue for a longer time as long as they do not want to change their way of thinking to become better and more advanced in utilizing existing capital. And from what you said about poor people, I have also found that they really don't remember any effort when they are given money in an easy way. So they spend it more often on things that are less important to themselves and that's what causes them not to get meaningful changes in their lives.
Caste differences in life often make it difficult for someone in the lower caste to rise, even though caste has slowly been abolished in various countries to create equality, but it cannot be denied that there are some groups that are still looked down upon by a group of people, making it difficult for them to rise. and continue to live in poverty.

The solution for someone to get out of poverty is not to get money, but to change their perspective and provide jobs or skills for them so that they can take responsibility for themselves to get out of poverty.

Basically no one is responsible for our lives except ourselves, so the drive within us must also be there to get out of this problem.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: erep on March 31, 2024, 05:26:12 PM
Caste differences in life often make it difficult for someone in the lower caste to rise, even though caste has slowly been abolished in various countries to create equality, but it cannot be denied that there are some groups that are still looked down upon by a group of people, making it difficult for them to rise. and continue to live in poverty.
Every country tries to overcome social inequality to deal with caste differences in society, the government looks for solutions to create equality for a better social life without comparing castes, religions and cultures, unity and caring must be prioritized in life in society. However, the government is very concerned about providing the right solution to open up jobs to overcome poverty and grow the economy for all levels of society. At least there is an effort from the government to provide outreach and skills training to open up independent employment opportunities.

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The solution for someone to get out of poverty is not to get money, but to change their perspective and provide jobs or skills for them so that they can take responsibility for themselves to get out of poverty.

Basically no one is responsible for our lives except ourselves, so the drive within us must also be there to get out of this problem.
Everyone has responsibility for themselves and they must have the skills to get a job, but many people who have skills from university graduates do not have the opportunity to get a job from the government, so support from the government is needed because they are responsible for managing state finances aimed at improving welfare for all people, I conclude that if the government fails to reduce poverty in annual statistics then they have failed to manage state finances.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Xxmodded on March 31, 2024, 06:45:08 PM
There will always be poor people just like the middle class and rich op. No solution will change any of this. As the world population continues rising, the number of people in each category will continue rising too.

High income individuals in first world countries will continue rising while low income individuals in third world countries will continue rising too. This is reality sadly.
Its difficult find new solution about poor people right now, some countries poor people more dominance their population than rich or middle class people although the government have working hard how to get solution way. I think lower class or poor people usually with developing countries more dominance, the government lack of working place and most poor people payment job very small and not guarantee yet how government help them to find good job.
Some poor people around developing countries face difficult with their education, without pass college or only junior high school very difficult to get good job with higher payment salary and make them difficult break to middle class or becoming rich people. Take points for government give them free education and make easily to find good job and good payment in the future.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Albarq on March 31, 2024, 08:10:10 PM
poor people need a solution now from the aspect of poor people taking bold steps because their minds are fixated on thoughts that they know do not become further insight and always think limitedly do not know the potential of what skills they can have. You are a rich person but they are the same and try harder in Business with ideas that seem to have no limits is the main key to life, whereas poor people tend to accept what is without trying harder and will continue to be victims of oppression. This is why the role of government is really needed.

By thinking about the poor people, they can think more forward by providing skills and business capital


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Egii Nna on March 31, 2024, 09:29:11 PM
I have my own lands and they are not cheap at all but i will refuse to sell them because the current food production sector is not good due to which food is bought at a high price. So i can use my land for production of different food products to cope with the situation. However i have very little means of earning money so it is important to hold the land. I am not obsessed with getting rich but i want to accumulate enough money to live a decent life.

This directly means utilisation of the available reasons, which is a great solution to follow for someone in the same situation as you, but many will not have the same thinking but will like to sell it because they will think that after they sell out the land they will achieve something with the money they gain, which will hardly be accomplished, but utilising it in farming will not only save you from starvation but also reduce your needs. Because before you start using that land for farming, you depend directly on the income that you get, which is what you will budget on to buy foods, clothes, and many other needs, but when you start farming, that money that will be spent on feeding inside your income will be extra money to sort out some of your needs, which is the best. 
 
Not only that, if the land is big and you can still farm what you will eat and still sell some to gain more money from there, you will somehow be financially sufficient based on the situation since you have mentioned that you are not the type that wants to accumulate a lot of money; you are just after an average life, which is not also bad.

poor people need a solution now from the aspect of poor people taking bold steps because their minds are fixated on thoughts that they know do not become further insight and always think limitedly do not know the potential of what skills they can have. You are a rich person but they are the same and try harder in Business with ideas that seem to have no limits is the main key to life, whereas poor people tend to accept what is without trying harder and will continue to be victims of oppression. This is why the role of government is really needed.

By thinking about the poor people, they can think more forward by providing skills and business capital

Most of the time, what poor people need most is not business capital support but motivation and encouragement. You see, these two factors go a long way in solving critical issues like poverty, because many poor people think that the best way to get rich is to work in one of the richest companies or even in a highly recognised place, which is the most wrong perception.
 
Because working under someone will never make you rich but will make your life limited, that will include your sense of thinking and many other things because you will always think that you can never be at that stage due to the situation you found yourself in. That is why I emphasise more on letting the poor know that in life, no one has any limitations on wealth. As long as you are ready to work hard and smart to get what you want with trust and belief, you will definitely get there.
 
But many think that the best solution for the poor is to give them business capital, and some of them will end up using the capital to buy some of the things they need and forget about the business. 


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Baki202 on April 01, 2024, 04:35:54 PM
There will always be poor people just like the middle class and rich op. No solution will change any of this. As the world population continues rising, the number of people in each category will continue rising too.

High income individuals in first world countries will continue rising while low income individuals in third world countries will continue rising too. This is reality sadly.

That is true. It is known everywhere that just as our fingers are not equal so are our lives going to be, The only option is that we are given the chance to choose whether we want to stay poor or change our part of success, and when you talk to people about these things, people don't show concern about the status they want to belong to, and there is no solution because even the government has nothing to do with this case, you choose if you want to remain poor or not.

And surprisingly, the number of poor people will continue to rise, especially in African countries. The interesting thing is that the number of rich people continues to reduce because the rich are always becoming richer. because as the world becomes more technological, the number of people not getting jobs is increasing. Now that is where adoption of the new world comes in, so if you are left out, then you will only struggle.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: ndutndut on April 03, 2024, 09:37:17 AM
No matter what government activities or policies are made, if you don't want to work or earn money, you will remain poor.
Even those who work hard every day are poor, let alone those who don't want to work and don't want to earn money.
So true. The point is to change poverty in yourself, working hard, having the will and being consistent is one way to get out of the poverty zone. The government's role is indeed influential in terms of policies for easy access for the poor, but this does not make it a 100% solution. Because in democratic countries there are many political elites who only take advantage of people's poverty and ignorance, not to help but to exploit them to gain sympathy, that is a fact that elites and officials have, especially during elections. That's why poverty is difficult to reduce because these two things are maintained because they are very beneficial for the elite. So the point is that the solution for poor people actually lies within ourselves, to change this, don't put too much hope in the government.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Reatim on April 03, 2024, 10:05:24 AM
Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship.

That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: slapper on April 03, 2024, 06:30:09 PM
There will always be poor people just like the middle class and rich op. No solution will change any of this. As the world population continues rising, the number of people in each category will continue rising too.

High income individuals in first world countries will continue rising while low income individuals in third world countries will continue rising too. This is reality sadly.

That is true. It is known everywhere that just as our fingers are not equal so are our lives going to be, The only option is that we are given the chance to choose whether we want to stay poor or change our part of success, and when you talk to people about these things, people don't show concern about the status they want to belong to, and there is no solution because even the government has nothing to do with this case, you choose if you want to remain poor or not.

And surprisingly, the number of poor people will continue to rise, especially in African countries. The interesting thing is that the number of rich people continues to reduce because the rich are always becoming richer. because as the world becomes more technological, the number of people not getting jobs is increasing. Now that is where adoption of the new world comes in, so if you are left out, then you will only struggle.

This whole "choice" story about getting rich is a hoax. Like saying a fish can become a bird. People, the game is rigged. It takes more than choosing "success" to achieve it. The entire machine is designed to keep certain people in certain areas

Don't ignore government involvement. They write and change the regulations mid-game while pretending to watch from the sidelines. The laws and regulations aren't clear. They're for experienced players. The rich get richer? That's the point, not an accident. And this tech revolution? Old game, new participants

Think it's about staying up and progressing? Some runners have a ten-mile head start, and you're telling them to run faster? We can't escape quickly. Look at why the playing field isn't level. We must address the core problems, not just blame people who can't keep up with a system structured to keep them down


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on April 03, 2024, 11:54:44 PM
Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship.

That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.
Thank you for agreeing with my opinion. In fact, the entrepreneur will be very helpful in developing himself properly. Whenever a man wants to rely on his freedom he must become an entrepreneur. I have seen many people who once quit their company job and started their own business and with proper care they have now built a good business and established themselves. So I say that if a person chooses entrepreneurship to move forward, he can quickly become a money man.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Ben Barubal on April 04, 2024, 04:06:34 AM
This is solution, first they need to Understood the system does not serve their needs.
What they could do is start using their own Community money backed by food and fruits.
Becouse If your Community grow food you can never be poor poor people you see your goverment don't care, why you use someones money who don't care about you ?
Leave your goverment currency and issue your own Community money.
And If your poor Community Grow food it means other people out of your Community need your food, so in order to get your Community food they need to obey your Community rules and they need to buy your Community money with rate that's beneficial for you.
Same goes for Europe farmers,stop play around with goverment just issue your own money stronger money and tell them you want our product you buy our currency or you can starve.

If you see someone not good with you then leave their system people only Are poor becouse they go along with the system , nobody not superior of you we all are Humans so If create the our own system then we prosper.

So Communities If you got food everybody out of your Community need food so you issue your own currency and you gain wealth.
And all the Community using this currency nobody poor anymore or problems.

By the time you grow more the less power goverment will have over you.
If you see something not benecifial for you dont use it.

I don't use Banks anymore i told my bank you are scam.
If system does not make you wealthy don't use it.

I Also told my bank you have so much money why don't you share % with me ? Becouse Im share holder of BANK if i invest in bank my money held by bank its Investment.
So they are crooks just becouse the people are use to with something doesnt mean it's honest by nature.

So Communities If you got food you are blessed issue your own money and stop dealing with people who don't benefit you.
If you issue your own money and goverment come to buy with their money you can set your own rate higher so If they don't want then you sell to those who want.
Off course they want becouse everybody need to eat
So you make your own money and your own Community people all live Nice.
Entrepreneurship is the best thing in life because instead of being dependent on others, becoming an entrepreneur and earning something yourself is the biggest gain if you can grow yourself with that money. People can be entrepreneurs in different ways, some do business, some cultivate agricultural land, some grow fruits, some do animal husbandry. Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship. If a person can be an entrepreneur then his life will be successful without depending on anyone. The condition of my country is very bad, there is no way to go well in this country. Government jobs are not available in my country. If you go to get a company job, there are many jobs. If a man from my country can become an entrepreneur, I think he can definitely get good results. Because my country is riverside, my country is full of arable land, if you plant any thing in this country, you will get a lot of success. What you have said here I think if a person follows your advice he doesn't have to depend on the government he can lead his life on his own and create a better future.

     Many people are like that in this day and age. To be honest, even with a capital of $10, they will start a small business just to survive. Even though I have experienced that, a capital can really grow, even if it is a small amount, if we are persistent and dedicated.

     And there are many like that because there are also many unemployed people and people who are not accepted by those they apply for. That's why some people are doing different side jobs or extra income just so they can collect profit from the generation we have today.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Strongkored on April 04, 2024, 05:39:02 AM
Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship.

That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.
Thank you for agreeing with my opinion. In fact, the entrepreneur will be very helpful in developing himself properly. Whenever a man wants to rely on his freedom he must become an entrepreneur. I have seen many people who once quit their company job and started their own business and with proper care they have now built a good business and established themselves. So I say that if a person chooses entrepreneurship to move forward, he can quickly become a money man.
Not everyone can be an entrepreneur because those who are successful as entrepreneurs can be patient and assess what steps must be taken so that their business can grow and also the ability to access capital which not everyone has because in my opinion it is a lie if anyone says they can become entrepreneur with zero capital, and those are just sweet words from a motivator so that many people attend his seminar so that it makes money for him.

No matter how hard you try to help the poor, other poor people will emerge. There are many factors, such as world events where when a pandemic occurs, it cannot be denied that there are more and more poor people because they lose their jobs, as well as those who become richer because they have the capital to do business in medical equipment, this is a fact. and happening all around us.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 04, 2024, 06:04:16 AM
There are still many countries in the world that are below the poverty line and there are many people in those countries who cannot eat properly. But we should try to come out of poverty without taking poverty as our own. If a poor man thinks that he is financially poor enough and that he can never get out of this place, he will be far behind in getting out of his poverty first. To come out of poverty, one must first work in the right place and plan well with the money a poor person earns through hard work. Whenever he can make a proper plan with money and act according to that plan, he will be seen slowly rising from below the poverty line. If the probability is 1% then 99% should keep trying.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Essential10 on April 04, 2024, 07:01:15 AM
There are still many countries in the world that are below the poverty line and there are many people in those countries who cannot eat properly. But we should try to come out of poverty without taking poverty as our own. If a poor man thinks that he is financially poor enough and that he can never get out of this place, he will be far behind in getting out of his poverty first. To come out of poverty, one must first work in the right place and plan well with the money a poor person earns through hard work. Whenever he can make a proper plan with money and act according to that plan, he will be seen slowly rising from below the poverty line. If the probability is 1% then 99% should keep trying.
All the countries in the world that are below the poverty line have actually gone to extremes. I am a citizen of Bangladesh in South Asia where poverty has reached extreme levels, where there are people who go without food for 1-2 days. One must try to get out of poverty. How many people can lift themselves out of poverty with a single effort, yes but one in a thousand. People who are poor are not really valued anywhere, even if you want to earn money through hard work to get out of poverty first you will have obstacles because you will not be properly valued for your hard work. I think government intervention is definitely needed to get out of poverty. Of course we have to try ourselves, as well as the government to create morale among poor people to get out from below a poverty line.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Iranus on April 04, 2024, 07:39:27 AM
There are still many countries in the world that are below the poverty line and there are many people in those countries who cannot eat properly. But we should try to come out of poverty without taking poverty as our own. If a poor man thinks that he is financially poor enough and that he can never get out of this place, he will be far behind in getting out of his poverty first. To come out of poverty, one must first work in the right place and plan well with the money a poor person earns through hard work. Whenever he can make a proper plan with money and act according to that plan, he will be seen slowly rising from below the poverty line. If the probability is 1% then 99% should keep trying.
All the countries in the world that are below the poverty line have actually gone to extremes. I am a citizen of Bangladesh in South Asia where poverty has reached extreme levels, where there are people who go without food for 1-2 days. One must try to get out of poverty. How many people can lift themselves out of poverty with a single effort, yes but one in a thousand. People who are poor are not really valued anywhere, even if you want to earn money through hard work to get out of poverty first you will have obstacles because you will not be properly valued for your hard work. I think government intervention is definitely needed to get out of poverty. Of course we have to try ourselves, as well as the government to create morale among poor people to get out from below a poverty line.

Escaping poverty depends on each country and its government, not everyone can escape poverty just by working hard and trying to save. It sounds very simple, but only those who have been in that situation really know how difficult it is. If the government is corrupt, neglects the people, does not establish diplomatic relations, does not cooperate in opening businesses, does not create jobs... then no matter how hard they try, the people will never escape poverty. The government plays an extremely important role in poverty reduction, if the government does not intervene, poverty will never escape.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: junder on April 04, 2024, 01:40:27 PM
So true. The point is to change poverty in yourself, working hard, having the will and being consistent is one way to get out of the poverty zone. The government's role is indeed influential in terms of policies for easy access for the poor, but this does not make it a 100% solution. Because in democratic countries there are many political elites who only take advantage of people's poverty and ignorance, not to help but to exploit them to gain sympathy, that is a fact that elites and officials have, especially during elections. That's why poverty is difficult to reduce because these two things are maintained because they are very beneficial for the elite. So the point is that the solution for poor people actually lies within ourselves, to change this, don't put too much hope in the government.
Yes, that's right, if we really want a good life or get out of poverty, of course we have to work hard because our lives do not depend on other people so it is we ourselves who have to change it, there is no way that other people will change it, other people only provide support not by changing our lives completely. Indeed the government may sometimes provide assistance to us but, it does not fully help, working hard is one of the ways we can change our situation from poor to better, do not rely on other people or the government because it will not help us fully.

I agree with you, the solution is in ourselves, if indeed we are aware of poverty then we must move forward, it is also impossible for anyone to want to stay in poverty forever it will not be comfortable and not the purpose of life either. Expecting others or the government will not change our situation for the better, after all I think it would be embarrassing if we depend on others, make an effort if you really want change.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: angrybirdy on April 04, 2024, 02:18:54 PM
So true. The point is to change poverty in yourself, working hard, having the will and being consistent is one way to get out of the poverty zone. The government's role is indeed influential in terms of policies for easy access for the poor, but this does not make it a 100% solution. Because in democratic countries there are many political elites who only take advantage of people's poverty and ignorance, not to help but to exploit them to gain sympathy, that is a fact that elites and officials have, especially during elections. That's why poverty is difficult to reduce because these two things are maintained because they are very beneficial for the elite. So the point is that the solution for poor people actually lies within ourselves, to change this, don't put too much hope in the government.
Yes, that's right, if we really want a good life or get out of poverty, of course we have to work hard because our lives do not depend on other people so it is we ourselves who have to change it, there is no way that other people will change it, other people only provide support not by changing our lives completely. Indeed the government may sometimes provide assistance to us but, it does not fully help, working hard is one of the ways we can change our situation from poor to better, do not rely on other people or the government because it will not help us fully.

I agree with you, the solution is in ourselves, if indeed we are aware of poverty then we must move forward, it is also impossible for anyone to want to stay in poverty forever it will not be comfortable and not the purpose of life either. Expecting others or the government will not change our situation for the better, after all I think it would be embarrassing if we depend on others, make an effort if you really want change.

I agree, not in everything we need will depend on the help of others, especially the help of the government, the only thing they can do is to provide a little assistance  or legal arrangements that will improve the currenr state of the country and economy, then the rest is you're the one who will help yourself, Other people is not always there just to help us, and if we want to experience a comfortable life, we need to act and persevere in life, nothing will happen if we just keep waiting .
Here in our country, I can say that our government is really to blame for why the rest of my fellow countrymen continue to suffer no matter how hard they try, but nothing will happen if we just complain only, so it's better for a few of us to sacrifice to improve our lives, those others who were left behind and did not get the opportunity to move and find a livelihood, they continue to suffer. It's a pity and sad to look at, but I know that the day will come when there will be no one to suffer in our country.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: junder on April 05, 2024, 01:00:17 PM
Yes, that's right, if we really want a good life or get out of poverty, of course we have to work hard because our lives do not depend on other people so it is we ourselves who have to change it, there is no way that other people will change it, other people only provide support not by changing our lives completely. Indeed the government may sometimes provide assistance to us but, it does not fully help, working hard is one of the ways we can change our situation from poor to better, do not rely on other people or the government because it will not help us fully.

I agree with you, the solution is in ourselves, if indeed we are aware of poverty then we must move forward, it is also impossible for anyone to want to stay in poverty forever it will not be comfortable and not the purpose of life either. Expecting others or the government will not change our situation for the better, after all I think it would be embarrassing if we depend on others, make an effort if you really want change.

I agree, not in everything we need will depend on the help of others, especially the help of the government, the only thing they can do is to provide a little assistance  or legal arrangements that will improve the currenr state of the country and economy, then the rest is you're the one who will help yourself, Other people is not always there just to help us, and if we want to experience a comfortable life, we need to act and persevere in life, nothing will happen if we just keep waiting .
Here in our country, I can say that our government is really to blame for why the rest of my fellow countrymen continue to suffer no matter how hard they try, but nothing will happen if we just complain only, so it's better for a few of us to sacrifice to improve our lives, those others who were left behind and did not get the opportunity to move and find a livelihood, they continue to suffer. It's a pity and sad to look at, but I know that the day will come when there will be no one to suffer in our country.

Poverty is a common problem in all societies, of course there are poor people in every country. It's true that basically everyone needs each other and must help each other, but not always other people will help us, we have to be able to be independent by overcoming our own problems, one of which is poverty, to get out of poverty we have to find a way to overcome this. like working hard with the aim of making a lot of money, because it's impossible for money to come by itself, that's very impossible, even if we are magicians, but I don't think we can do the impossible.

It's true what you said, if we just complain then it won't be able to change anything, the problems that occur will not be resolved, we have to move forward when a problem occurs, unless we ourselves want to survive in poverty then it's not a problem, but it feels like It's impossible for anyone to want to survive poverty, of course everyone wants a life that is self-sufficient, including their finances. In my opinion, the solution to overcoming poverty lies within ourselves, don't rely on other people and don't depend on other people.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: boty on April 05, 2024, 06:01:45 PM
Escaping poverty depends on each country and its government, not everyone can escape poverty just by working hard and trying to save. It sounds very simple, but only those who have been in that situation really know how difficult it is. If the government is corrupt, neglects the people, does not establish diplomatic relations, does not cooperate in opening businesses, does not create jobs... then no matter how hard they try, the people will never escape poverty. The government plays an extremely important role in poverty reduction, if the government does not intervene, poverty will never escape.
It is indeed not an easy thing to get out of poverty if we are in a country that does not think about the fate of its people and the government only thinks about their group so that the fate of the people will have difficulty in meeting what they need and being able to have savings. of course we need income that can meet the needs we need and if there is still anything left of these needs then we can save, but if the income we have is only enough to meet our needs, of course we can't think about saving because of the low income. we only have enough for our needs.

The government of course has to think about how to help people get out of poverty, because if they continue to try on their own to develop their skills but other people's purchasing power is lacking, of course our efforts will be in vain and will never be successful.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on April 05, 2024, 06:28:07 PM
That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.

Business gives you extra income and one who is doing a job when use his salary little by little to settle a business then in no time he will become financially stable and he will not think about spending and will not be in stress when he fulfil his family needs.

Other main thing is that people having Business has created the way of earning in advance for the age when he will not be interested in doing job or will not be able to do so because human cannot properly work in every age for his family and after some years he want retirement from work during which he can earn well from Business.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Dewi Aries on April 05, 2024, 06:52:49 PM
That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.

Business gives you extra income and one who is doing a job when use his salary little by little to settle a business then in no time he will become financially stable and he will not think about spending and will not be in stress when he fulfil his family needs.

Other main thing is that people having Business has created the way of earning in advance for the age when he will not be interested in doing job or will not be able to do so because human cannot properly work in every age for his family and after some years he want retirement from work during which he can earn well from Business.

There is no such thing as a short time in terms of running a process, especially this is a business which requires an unusual struggle, the reason is because running a business is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand where there will always be tests that they will face on their journey, especially if they are someone who has just entered the business world which means they do not have qualified experience in terms of the business world which means clearly ignorance will create many delays in being able to achieve success.

Yes I understand and I think everyone already knows that by having a personal business then it will be able to help us more in terms of financial strength, but everything will look easy if we only talk about the success, while on the other hand the possibility of failure will always be involved and as we know that not a few people who ultimately fail in building their business, It could be due to lack of capital or giving up with all the difficulties they have to face which in the end makes them return to the workforce because they don't want and are unable to fight for their business, if for example building a business is as easy as turning the palm of your hand then many people have succeeded, but not everyone is strong in going through the process.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: pusaka on April 05, 2024, 07:09:20 PM
That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.

Business gives you extra income and one who is doing a job when use his salary little by little to settle a business then in no time he will become financially stable and he will not think about spending and will not be in stress when he fulfil his family needs.

Other main thing is that people having Business has created the way of earning in advance for the age when he will not be interested in doing job or will not be able to do so because human cannot properly work in every age for his family and after some years he want retirement from work during which he can earn well from Business.
Having your own business is very tempting, but it won't be easy to get because it will definitely go through a very long process. Maybe we will experience ups and downs when building the business we want.
So here is the real challenge, when we experience failure it is a lesson for us to try again and correct previous mistakes that caused us to fail in building a business. Because I don't think it will be instant and I rarely see someone who is immediately successful with just one try.
If we have succeeded in building and developing it, then we will feel something extraordinary because we will become the boss of our business, as you said. And maybe we can also help others to employ us.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: indah rezqi on April 05, 2024, 07:51:53 PM
Escaping poverty depends on each country and its government, not everyone can escape poverty just by working hard and trying to save. It sounds very simple, but only those who have been in that situation really know how difficult it is. If the government is corrupt, neglects the people, does not establish diplomatic relations, does not cooperate in opening businesses, does not create jobs... then no matter how hard they try, the people will never escape poverty. The government plays an extremely important role in poverty reduction, if the government does not intervene, poverty will never escape.
It is indeed not an easy thing to get out of poverty if we are in a country that does not think about the fate of its people and the government only thinks about their group so that the fate of the people will have difficulty in meeting what they need and being able to have savings. of course we need income that can meet the needs we need and if there is still anything left of these needs then we can save, but if the income we have is only enough to meet our needs, of course we can't think about saving because of the low income. we only have enough for our needs.

The government of course has to think about how to help people get out of poverty, because if they continue to try on their own to develop their skills but other people's purchasing power is lacking, of course our efforts will be in vain and will never be successful.
Through regulations the Government can help people get out of poverty, one of which is by guaranteeing employment opportunities for the people, whether working as Government Employees or as Private Employees. Of course everything must start from the education sector, when people have a place to study well, they will gain skills to make it easier to get a job. It is difficult to get out of the poverty line if you don't have a steady income, starting a business also requires a lot of capital. People need government assistance to be able to improve the wheels of their destiny, so that overall society will not be below the poverty line.

We can only save if we have income, but if we can only meet our daily needs, in my opinion this will not be achievable. Moreover, every year the price of basic necessities always increases, what is worse is that this is not accompanied by an increase in salaries in the field of work. On the other hand, in my opinion, this problem occurs in almost all countries, the only difference is the level of inequality. Apart from that, I believe that the best way to help people get out of poverty is through education, this can ensure people live prosperously in the long term.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Churchillvv on April 05, 2024, 09:17:38 PM
Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship.

That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.
You're absolutely right, financial freedom does not always come from working under someone or company it always about being creative enough to do something that either has never existed or is already in existence but it's being branded in your own new initiatives.

Being your own boss is a major reason for a lot of people and greed of having all the wealth or profit to ones self is also another driver of business idea. But at some point, even being a boss has disadvantages that are over looked. Making decisions are only going to be subjective based on ones biases but when it's in a cooperate affair it tends to be the ideas of every one.

The world every day creates opportunities for people, but it only takes an entrepreneur to grab this opportunities, they say entrepreneurs are opportunist and I agree with that, one must be an opportunist to make profit from every daily scenario. For me it's a real deal to be an entrepreneur.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: SATWAT on April 05, 2024, 09:25:05 PM
Whatever you do in life, the main target will be entrepreneurship.

That is very true. If one wants to be financially successful, often times the main solution is to build a business.

Some people even work jobs and then their end goal is to have a business and make profit from there. The reason why I think entrepreneurship is so attractive to a lot of people is because you are your own boss. All your profit is yours to keep and any creative decisions shall be made by you. I also want to establish myself as a successful entrepreneur someday.
You're absolutely right, financial freedom does not always come from working under someone or company it always about being creative enough to do something that either has never existed or is already in existence but it's being branded in your own new initiatives.

Being your own boss is a major reason for a lot of people and greed of having all the wealth or profit to ones self is also another driver of business idea. But at some point, even being a boss has disadvantages that are over looked. Making decisions are only going to be subjective based on ones biases but when it's in a cooperate affair it tends to be the ideas of every one.

The world every day creates opportunities for people, but it only takes an entrepreneur to grab this opportunities, they say entrepreneurs are opportunist and I agree with that, one must be an opportunist to make profit from every daily scenario. For me it's a real deal to be an entrepreneur.
I also agreed about this all but sadly this is not true for the all with in many countries we are having opportunities for the peoples to do things which are good for them and after doing things like these they can improve their lifestyle and also having better things for their life as well but in many developing countries we are not able to do things like these even we are doing all independently and having good profit as well here any mistake or sudden change of rules or policy can create problems for you, and you can lose your all life savings in minutes like we have in our country where in last few years things are going terrible wrong and peoples are also facing huge difficulties even we all know how can things can take changes but no one going to try on this way.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Bitco55 on April 06, 2024, 12:58:52 AM
We must understand that these solutions won't show effects now. The only thing this class of people can do is to invest in themselves. Invest in their knowledge and this would lead to opportunities, invest time into these opportunities and these would lead to income, invest little of this income over time into assets and this would lead to more income. Invest this little income back into yourself through your looks, health, and knowledge all over again for the cycle to continue and yield results. This reminds of of the vicious circle of poverty which states that " poverty begets poverty" It explains the fact that poor people are poor because they are poor. They can't save all they do is earn little and eat little. If they could just invest a little more it would set the stone and open up the way for wealth to come in.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: kentrolla on April 06, 2024, 08:18:08 PM
We must understand that these solutions won't show effects now. The only thing this class of people can do is to invest in themselves. Invest in their knowledge and this would lead to opportunities, invest time into these opportunities and these would lead to income, invest little of this income over time into assets and this would lead to more income. Invest this little income back into yourself through your looks, health, and knowledge all over again for the cycle to continue and yield results. This reminds of of the vicious circle of poverty which states that " poverty begets poverty" It explains the fact that poor people are poor because they are poor. They can't save all they do is earn little and eat little. If they could just invest a little more it would set the stone and open up the way for wealth to come in.

If we look at your response from a philosophical view it's perfect but practically we also need to understand the challenges faced by poor people I mean if a person is earning little more than what his expenses would be then that person can reinvest little amount in education or learning skills which would elevate them out of poverty but if they hardly earn which is not even enough for their daily food then no one can think of learning or education. This doesn't work in every case.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Juse14 on April 06, 2024, 09:59:12 PM
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Poverty is a common problem in all societies, of course there are poor people in every country. It's true that basically everyone needs each other and must help each other, but not always other people will help us, we have to be able to be independent by overcoming our own problems, one of which is poverty, to get out of poverty we have to find a way to overcome this. like working hard with the aim of making a lot of money, because it's impossible for money to come by itself, that's very impossible, even if we are magicians, but I don't think we can do the impossible.

It's true what you said, if we just complain then it won't be able to change anything, the problems that occur will not be resolved, we have to move forward when a problem occurs, unless we ourselves want to survive in poverty then it's not a problem, but it feels like It's impossible for anyone to want to survive poverty, of course everyone wants a life that is self-sufficient, including their finances. In my opinion, the solution to overcoming poverty lies within ourselves, don't rely on other people and don't depend on other people.

Poverty is a reality that exists in almost every community in the world. Although it’s vital to get some assistance from others, sometimes they also refuse to offer their help. Thus, being self-reliant and finding ways to pull yourself out of this quagmire is what can free you from it. The first approach is the self-driven way of toiling hard so that money may follow your trail; money doesn’t come by itself.
There are no benefits to complaining if you cannot do anything to stop it; therefore, it is necessary for us to just get over problems and fix them. Regarding poverty, the solution resides in oneself, not others.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: junder on April 07, 2024, 07:28:07 AM
Poverty is a common problem in all societies, of course there are poor people in every country. It's true that basically everyone needs each other and must help each other, but not always other people will help us, we have to be able to be independent by overcoming our own problems, one of which is poverty, to get out of poverty we have to find a way to overcome this. like working hard with the aim of making a lot of money, because it's impossible for money to come by itself, that's very impossible, even if we are magicians, but I don't think we can do the impossible.

It's true what you said, if we just complain then it won't be able to change anything, the problems that occur will not be resolved, we have to move forward when a problem occurs, unless we ourselves want to survive in poverty then it's not a problem, but it feels like It's impossible for anyone to want to survive poverty, of course everyone wants a life that is self-sufficient, including their finances. In my opinion, the solution to overcoming poverty lies within ourselves, don't rely on other people and don't depend on other people.

Poverty is a reality that exists in almost every community in the world. Although it’s vital to get some assistance from others, sometimes they also refuse to offer their help. Thus, being self-reliant and finding ways to pull yourself out of this quagmire is what can free you from it. The first approach is the self-driven way of toiling hard so that money may follow your trail; money doesn’t come by itself.
There are no benefits to complaining if you cannot do anything to stop it; therefore, it is necessary for us to just get over problems and fix them. Regarding poverty, the solution resides in oneself, not others.

Yes, being independent is a must in my opinion because there is nothing wrong with being independent, even though we have rich parents, that doesn't mean we don't have to be independent, because later when we are married, the one who will run the household relationship will be us ourselves. our partner, sometimes I see my neighbor after getting married and he is having difficulty with one of his family members who wants to help but he refuses, because in my opinion there is a feeling of discomfort or shame if we accept help from the family when we are married.

When we are married, of course we have to have a job to be able to meet the needs we need to survive, therefore it is very important to have an income when working. Because of this, I also feel reluctant to accept help from my family if I already have an official relationship with my partner. , because in my opinion, when we are married, the problems that occur are completely our business, if we ask for advice, maybe that's not a problem, but to ask for help from me is not, especially when we ask for help from a woman's family, I can't imagine how embarrassing it would be.
The problem of poverty must be solved by ourselves, as you said, one way is by working hard.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: MissNonFall9 on April 07, 2024, 09:34:27 AM
We must understand that these solutions won't show effects now. The only thing this class of people can do is to invest in themselves. Invest in their knowledge and this would lead to opportunities, invest time into these opportunities and these would lead to income, invest little of this income over time into assets and this would lead to more income. Invest this little income back into yourself through your looks, health, and knowledge all over again for the cycle to continue and yield results. This reminds of of the vicious circle of poverty which states that " poverty begets poverty" It explains the fact that poor people are poor because they are poor. They can't save all they do is earn little and eat little. If they could just invest a little more it would set the stone and open up the way for wealth to come in.
Yes exactly investment will act as the right guide for the development of not only the poor but also the human being from the existing situation. Since saving and investment are interrelated from my point of view they should save a fixed portion of their income. And since saving in a fiat currency has a strong chance of falling into inflation they should invest in a profitable sector such as crypto-currency. So that a profit from it in the future will come to them and they will not have to face future undesired dire situations and can get relief from the present miserable life. My words may not be consistent for all walks of life but I believe that if we organize our life roughly this way we can deal with serious situations.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: fuguebtc on April 07, 2024, 09:48:55 AM
We must understand that these solutions won't show effects now. The only thing this class of people can do is to invest in themselves. Invest in their knowledge and this would lead to opportunities, invest time into these opportunities and these would lead to income, invest little of this income over time into assets and this would lead to more income. Invest this little income back into yourself through your looks, health, and knowledge all over again for the cycle to continue and yield results. This reminds of of the vicious circle of poverty which states that " poverty begets poverty" It explains the fact that poor people are poor because they are poor. They can't save all they do is earn little and eat little. If they could just invest a little more it would set the stone and open up the way for wealth to come in.
Yes exactly investment will act as the right guide for the development of not only the poor but also the human being from the existing situation. Since saving and investment are interrelated from my point of view they should save a fixed portion of their income. And since saving in a fiat currency has a strong chance of falling into inflation they should invest in a profitable sector such as crypto-currency. So that a profit from it in the future will come to them and they will not have to face future undesired dire situations and can get relief from the present miserable life. My words may not be consistent for all walks of life but I believe that if we organize our life roughly this way we can deal with serious situations.

Listening to the two of you talk, I imagine that escaping poverty seems too easy and not at all difficult as many people think. But have you ever wondered why there are still so many poor people in the world? By the way, let me ask, for poor people who cannot even afford to buy main family meals, how will they save and invest? In many poor countries, people don't even have jobs because of government corruption, so how will they save and invest? Not everyone is as lucky as us to be protected by our parents, fully educated, have the opportunity to access the internet... there are many tragic situations that we have never witnessed. If you are not in that situation, how can you understand what they are going through?



Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 07, 2024, 01:30:06 PM
We must understand that these solutions won't show effects now. The only thing this class of people can do is to invest in themselves. Invest in their knowledge and this would lead to opportunities, invest time into these opportunities and these would lead to income, invest little of this income over time into assets and this would lead to more income. Invest this little income back into yourself through your looks, health, and knowledge all over again for the cycle to continue and yield results. This reminds of of the vicious circle of poverty which states that " poverty begets poverty" It explains the fact that poor people are poor because they are poor. They can't save all they do is earn little and eat little. If they could just invest a little more it would set the stone and open up the way for wealth to come in.

If we look at your response from a philosophical view it's perfect but practically we also need to understand the challenges faced by poor people I mean if a person is earning little more than what his expenses would be then that person can reinvest little amount in education or learning skills which would elevate them out of poverty but if they hardly earn which is not even enough for their daily food then no one can think of learning or education. This doesn't work in every case.

If, for example, the scenario is like what you said, where they are really poor people who even have difficulty meeting their daily needs, such as buying food because their income is far from enough to meet their needs, then in my opinion the suggestion is that they must be able to manage their time. and after that look for work or add part-time work to increase their income, but look for side jobs that do not require them to have good skills like office workers.

There are still quite a lot of other jobs that can be done by everyone because the work is quite easy, such as being a gardener in the backyard of a rich person's house, or lifting goods at the market or guarding a shop parking lot, where although the income may not be very large, it is enough. means to increase your income from your main job, the key is as long as you want to and as long as you can divide your time with other activities such as your main job.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Raflesia on April 07, 2024, 05:03:02 PM
The government of course has to think about how to help people get out of poverty, because if they continue to try on their own to develop their skills but other people's purchasing power is lacking, of course our efforts will be in vain and will never be successful.
The problem is that if you are too dependent on the government IMO it wouldnt be good for you because in the end if you just wait for the government to solve the poverty problems that we have it will only make you mentally soft and not have a strong desire to change your own fate.
Its not wrong when you try to see whether the government will move or not in an effort to solve poverty in the country they lead but on the other hand we also should not be too imposing that we should be helped because our lives then indirectly we ourselves determine what we consider best because to make ourselves successful in the end only our own hands can make it happen so it does not mean we should not depend on others or the government but dont be too imposing as if our fate is determined by them because our fate is determined by them . As if our fate is determined by them because our fate includes the future we want to achieve so we ourselves must try to make it happen .


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: bestcoins1 on April 07, 2024, 05:40:36 PM
Yes exactly investment will act as the right guide for the development of not only the poor but also the human being from the existing situation. Since saving and investment are interrelated from my point of view they should save a fixed portion of their income. And since saving in a fiat currency has a strong chance of falling into inflation they should invest in a profitable sector such as crypto-currency. So that a profit from it in the future will come to them and they will not have to face future undesired dire situations and can get relief from the present miserable life. My words may not be consistent for all walks of life but I believe that if we organize our life roughly this way we can deal with serious situations.
The words that you give can also be suitable for all levels of society because everyone definitely has a source of income in their life which can always be adjusted for use, savings and also invested with the measurements made individually. Because whatever will happen and whatever we have to face now and in the future, of course every source of income must be allocated into three important parts. Mainly to be used every month and secondly to be saved so that you can do the third thing, namely investing to avoid miserable living conditions.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: dezoel on April 10, 2024, 02:51:33 PM
Business gives you extra income and one who is doing a job when use his salary little by little to settle a business then in no time he will become financially stable and he will not think about spending and will not be in stress when he fulfil his family needs.

Other main thing is that people having Business has created the way of earning in advance for the age when he will not be interested in doing job or will not be able to do so because human cannot properly work in every age for his family and after some years he want retirement from work during which he can earn well from Business.
You can't set up a business being a salaried person unless you are either not married or have any family to take care of or you earn a lot of money from your 9 to 5 job. If you have a family to take care of and you are not earning a lot of money which is more than what you need every month, then maybe you can save some money each month and then set up a small business, but if none of those are positive, you can't do that.

It's not easy to be on a salary and set up a business considering the economic conditions of each country. You can barely be able to fulfil the basic needs of the household along with the bills and everything with your salary, how can you save enough money so that you can set up your business?


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: slapper on April 10, 2024, 03:02:11 PM
Business gives you extra income and one who is doing a job when use his salary little by little to settle a business then in no time he will become financially stable and he will not think about spending and will not be in stress when he fulfil his family needs.

Other main thing is that people having Business has created the way of earning in advance for the age when he will not be interested in doing job or will not be able to do so because human cannot properly work in every age for his family and after some years he want retirement from work during which he can earn well from Business.
You can't set up a business being a salaried person unless you are either not married or have any family to take care of or you earn a lot of money from your 9 to 5 job. If you have a family to take care of and you are not earning a lot of money which is more than what you need every month, then maybe you can save some money each month and then set up a small business, but if none of those are positive, you can't do that.

It's not easy to be on a salary and set up a business considering the economic conditions of each country. You can barely be able to fulfil the basic needs of the household along with the bills and everything with your salary, how can you save enough money so that you can set up your business?
Let's not get stuck in this black-and-white thinking. You're talking like these rules are unbreakable, but that's not how it works. Bending the rules, pushing boundaries; that's the key to success, in life, in business. Sure, a salary is a safety net, but it also keeps you in a cage. Since when did impossible mean anything more than a challenge waiting to be conquered?

You're saying only people with money and free time can chase dreams? That's some serious underestimation of the human spirit. History's full of people (parents, working stiffs, folks without much to their name) who proved everyone wrong. It's NOT about the cash in your pocket, it's about fire in your gut, using what you DO have to make something bigger.

And this idea that the economy decides who gets to dream? That's weak. Bad times make people get creative, find new solutions. It's not how much you make, it's how much you WANT to make a difference. Look at the human spirit  (the real stuff, not the watered-down version) and you'll see that "can't" is what people who won't try say, not those who refuse to give up


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Mame89 on April 11, 2024, 09:25:40 AM
Poverty is a reality that exists in almost every community in the world. Although it’s vital to get some assistance from others, sometimes they also refuse to offer their help. Thus, being self-reliant and finding ways to pull yourself out of this quagmire is what can free you from it. The first approach is the self-driven way of toiling hard so that money may follow your trail; money doesn’t come by itself.
There are no benefits to complaining if you cannot do anything to stop it; therefore, it is necessary for us to just get over problems and fix them. Regarding poverty, the solution resides in oneself, not others.
What is clear is that poverty definitely exists in every country. Poverty is a common condition that makes it much more difficult for a person to achieve their financial goals. However, it would be better if we don't just give up on fate, but can focus on improving conditions slowly, starting from conditions that are still within our control. Not a few of them are still trapped in the sandwich generation, namely those born into underprivileged families. It is true that the solution to poverty lies within oneself, but the government also needs to prioritize poverty alleviation so that poor people are reduced and remain enthusiastic about fighting to achieve their respective financial goals.

Of course the solution to poverty lies in circles and mindset. Because, there are still many poor people who do not have the mentality to think and speak freely. As a result, they are taboo about discussing the process of becoming rich because it is considered society's fantasy. For example, learning to invest in Bitcoin is still considered a scam in my area. So the most basic solution for poor people is to change their mindset and stimulate their thinking so that they are motivated to change themselves for the better.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Albarq on April 11, 2024, 02:16:33 PM
in a situation like this the government cannot help much to even out the welfare of all its people, it needs to be considered quite carefully, dependency is also not good for us and it is not a good solution, the thing that needs to be implemented is to move forward.
together, but the fact is that it has not been implemented until now, what we need to think about is advancing all areas of your knowledge sector so that the cycle runs smoothly again to get out of poverty.
there are many tragic situations that we have witnessed by deepening our conscience. They need each other and help each other, making this a reality for now. We must think wisely for solutions now to help get out of poverty. All countries experience things like this.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Bushdark on April 12, 2024, 08:28:13 PM
It is very obvious that we are in the era when the poor are becoming devastated about how things are going in the country and we all need to make sure that we work towards how we can do things and help ourselves. Because of the inflation, the rich are also complaining because of the price of goods and raw materials that is becoming expensive almost everyday.
If only the government could work things out and reduce the price of some raw materials that are very important in production processes, it will ease things and prices of things will plummate.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Juse14 on April 13, 2024, 05:30:49 PM
Poverty is a reality that exists in almost every community in the world. Although it’s vital to get some assistance from others, sometimes they also refuse to offer their help. Thus, being self-reliant and finding ways to pull yourself out of this quagmire is what can free you from it. The first approach is the self-driven way of toiling hard so that money may follow your trail; money doesn’t come by itself.
There are no benefits to complaining if you cannot do anything to stop it; therefore, it is necessary for us to just get over problems and fix them. Regarding poverty, the solution resides in oneself, not others.
What is clear is that poverty definitely exists in every country. Poverty is a common condition that makes it much more difficult for a person to achieve their financial goals. However, it would be better if we don't just give up on fate, but can focus on improving conditions slowly, starting from conditions that are still within our control. Not a few of them are still trapped in the sandwich generation, namely those born into underprivileged families. It is true that the solution to poverty lies within oneself, but the government also needs to prioritize poverty alleviation so that poor people are reduced and remain enthusiastic about fighting to achieve their respective financial goals.

Of course the solution to poverty lies in circles and mindset. Because, there are still many poor people who do not have the mentality to think and speak freely. As a result, they are taboo about discussing the process of becoming rich because it is considered society's fantasy. For example, learning to invest in Bitcoin is still considered a scam in my area. So the most basic solution for poor people is to change their mindset and stimulate their thinking so that they are motivated to change themselves for the better.

We cannot choose what kind of family we want to be born into, poor or rich. However, when we are born into a poor family, make sure that in the future our children will be born into a well-off family. Complaining about the situation is completely pointless. So it is true what you said that changing your mindset is a solution for someone to get out of the valley of poverty. And it is true that in some areas, investing in bitcoin is often seen as negative, but to be able to generate profits and income, it is not just by investing in bitcoin alone. If there is the will and effort to move forward to improve one's financial situation, there are still many ways a person can make profits or money, such as finding a decent job or opening a business. So perhaps it is not the circumstances that keep them in trouble, but rather their way of thinking, and their easy attitude of complaining that keeps them in trouble and poor.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Egii Nna on April 13, 2024, 07:52:04 PM
Of course the solution to poverty lies in circles and mindset. Because, there are still many poor people who do not have the mentality to think and speak freely. As a result, they are taboo about discussing the process of becoming rich because it is considered society's fantasy. For example, learning to invest in Bitcoin is still considered a scam in my area. So the most basic solution for poor people is to change their mindset and stimulate their thinking so that they are motivated to change themselves for the better.

Not only in the mindset but also include the environmental setting (which included the culture, tradition, and family background). All this is also involved in the environmental setting. Let's take an instance. You say that investment in bitcoin is considered a scam in your area, which apparently means if anyone finds you among those that are involved in the bitcoin space, they will just consider you a scammer, so to avoid that, you wouldn't like to join just because you don't want to be seen as a scammer, and that investment might be the source of your wealth, but you don’t know, that the same applies to many other businesses. The environment you are living in or the culture you are practicing will make some certain businesses taboo to you, which mostly affects the poor, and most of these businesses are like gambling and so on.

So even though we know that becoming rich as a child who is born and brought up in a poor family is not easy, it still deals with some three key things, which are: your mindset, your ability to take that risk, and also your ability to overview some environmental limitations that might stop you from going into some businesses, which might be the road to your success.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 14, 2024, 05:01:26 PM
It is very obvious that we are in the era when the poor are becoming devastated about how things are going in the country and we all need to make sure that we work towards how we can do things and help ourselves. Because of the inflation, the rich are also complaining because of the price of goods and raw materials that is becoming expensive almost everyday.
If only the government could work things out and reduce the price of some raw materials that are very important in production processes, it will ease things and prices of things will plummate.

In my opinion, poor people will still exist even though technology is becoming increasingly sophisticated. because in my opinion it has become a rule in a country, I am sure that in every country there are families who are poor, whether financially or economically. I think if they want to get out of poverty they have to work hard, because to change their situation it is themselves and not other people.

Unfortunately the government will only think about itself, in fact what often happens in my opinion is that the government cannot pay attention to its people and what often happens is always price increases, not price reductions.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: nara1892 on April 14, 2024, 05:30:04 PM
It is very obvious that we are in the era when the poor are becoming devastated about how things are going in the country and we all need to make sure that we work towards how we can do things and help ourselves. Because of the inflation, the rich are also complaining because of the price of goods and raw materials that is becoming expensive almost everyday.
If only the government could work things out and reduce the price of some raw materials that are very important in production processes, it will ease things and prices of things will plummate.

In a situation full of difficulties, it is actually only ourselves who can make changes because other people will not care about the difficulties you experience because they also experience the same thing when there is an inflation problem, when you have a low income then yes it is clear that inflation is a situation that will really make it difficult for you to meet your basic needs, and maybe there is no other way but you create a strategy or look for new ideas to minimize these difficulties a little, such as starting to buy goods at a much cheaper price, even though the quality is low but the most important thing is that it is still suitable for use or consumption. As a society we can only hope and plead with the government to fix this problem immediately, because only the government can make changes as a whole or at least reduce it to ease the burden a little.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: macson on April 14, 2024, 07:33:05 PM
I also agreed about this all but sadly this is not true for the all with in many countries we are having opportunities for the peoples to do things which are good for them and after doing things like these they can improve their lifestyle and also having better things for their life as well but in many developing countries we are not able to do things like these even we are doing all independently and having good profit as well here any mistake or sudden change of rules or policy can create problems for you, and you can lose your all life savings in minutes like we have in our country where in last few years things are going terrible wrong and peoples are also facing huge difficulties even we all know how can things can take changes but no one going to try on this way.
the mistake that poor people often make is that they don't want to learn and improve their lives, even though if they are able to increase their insight into financial literacy then they have good weapons to face unexpected things in the future.  

all those good people who are very rich nowadays have the opportunity to lose their money in unexpected ways but why they can survive this far, it's all because they always update their horizons and also live a stable life (not showing off and getting into debt) because of the problems they face, what many poor people experience is piling up debts and a hedonistic lifestyle.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Yukyzu on April 15, 2024, 07:51:13 AM
the mistake that poor people often make is that they don't want to learn and improve their lives, even though if they are able to increase their insight into financial literacy then they have good weapons to face unexpected things in the future.  

all those good people who are very rich nowadays have the opportunity to lose their money in unexpected ways but why they can survive this far, it's all because they always update their horizons and also live a stable life (not showing off and getting into debt) because of the problems they face, what many poor people experience is piling up debts and a hedonistic lifestyle.
When someone can manage their finances well of course they will not experience financial difficulties whether they earn a little or a lot, for people who earn a little they will certainly have difficulties if they do not have good knowledge of financial management and they have to look for loans to meet their needs. due to lack of financial management knowledge.

You are right, whether rich or poor will still experience financial problems if they don't have knowledge about managing finances well, but for rich people, of course they can get this easily if they want to learn it and for some poor people who don't If they know well about financial management, of course they will have a lot of debt.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Marvell1 on April 15, 2024, 10:53:15 AM
I also agreed about this all but sadly this is not true for the all with in many countries we are having opportunities for the peoples to do things which are good for them and after doing things like these they can improve their lifestyle and also having better things for their life as well but in many developing countries we are not able to do things like these even we are doing all independently and having good profit as well here any mistake or sudden change of rules or policy can create problems for you, and you can lose your all life savings in minutes like we have in our country where in last few years things are going terrible wrong and peoples are also facing huge difficulties even we all know how can things can take changes but no one going to try on this way.
the mistake that poor people often make is that they don't want to learn and improve their lives, even though if they are able to increase their insight into financial literacy then they have good weapons to face unexpected things in the future.  

all those good people who are very rich nowadays have the opportunity to lose their money in unexpected ways but why they can survive this far, it's all because they always update their horizons and also live a stable life (not showing off and getting into debt) because of the problems they face, what many poor people experience is piling up debts and a hedonistic lifestyle.

On what basis do you know that poor people do not like to learn, do not like to improve their knowledge to improve their lives? Like our parents, they are also farmers who have a hard life but will always find ways to give their children the opportunity to go to school and learn fully. If they are not aware that knowledge is the key to escape poverty, why should they work so hard to send you to school?

It's not that the poor are not aware of the key to escaping poverty, but sometimes the harshness of life forces them to make choices. Not everyone has an easy life like us, you're not in their shoes and you know nothing about what they go through. So don't try to act like you're smarter than them.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: junder on April 15, 2024, 11:21:04 AM
When someone can manage their finances well of course they will not experience financial difficulties whether they earn a little or a lot, for people who earn a little they will certainly have difficulties if they do not have good knowledge of financial management and they have to look for loans to meet their needs. due to lack of financial management knowledge.

You are right, whether rich or poor will still experience financial problems if they don't have knowledge about managing finances well, but for rich people, of course they can get this easily if they want to learn it and for some poor people who don't If they know well about financial management, of course they will have a lot of debt.

That's the problem in my opinion, many people can't manage their finances well, because I have a friend who works and has a large income, in fact I think that's more than enough, it's just that he often borrows money from me or other friends. with the excuse of buying food or other kitchen necessities, I think he doesn't really have good money management, because with the income he earns I think it's more than enough to meet his needs, but maybe he spends it on less useful things like fulfill what he wants by buying property or other things that are only temporary.

"If they really understand financial management, of course they will have a lot of debt." I don't understand this, perhaps what is meant is, "if they really understand financial debt management, then they won't have a lot of debt."
because I think that with those who understand money management, it is unlikely that they will take out a loan, unless they don't have or don't understand money management, then there is a possibility that they could have debt because poor money management means they are always short.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Fuso.hp on April 15, 2024, 01:05:24 PM
People live in poverty in several categories. Some may be poor working in agriculture, some may be poor as day laborers and some may be poor working in other occupations. Farmers are not only poor but there are many working people who get a small amount of salary and with which they cannot fully run their family, they must be considered under the category of poverty. Those who are involved in agriculture and have land are not really poor because if they work hard on the land they will get crops and those who have enough crops to eat for the whole year are poor at all. But those who have no land and whose daily income is very limited are poor and they have to try to come out of this poverty. In this case, such a person can remove his own poverty by cultivating other people's land. Poverty is bound to come so don't despair to try how to eliminate that poverty.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Dewi Aries on April 15, 2024, 02:01:26 PM
People live in poverty in several categories. Some may be poor working in agriculture, some may be poor as day laborers and some may be poor working in other occupations. Farmers are not only poor but there are many working people who get a small amount of salary and with which they cannot fully run their family, they must be considered under the category of poverty. Those who are involved in agriculture and have land are not really poor because if they work hard on the land they will get crops and those who have enough crops to eat for the whole year are poor at all. But those who have no land and whose daily income is very limited are poor and they have to try to come out of this poverty. In this case, such a person can remove his own poverty by cultivating other people's land. Poverty is bound to come so don't despair to try how to eliminate that poverty.

The point is that the category of poor is when someone is in a low financial level, no matter what their occupation is and regardless of their background, whether they are a farmer or a laborer or who works in any field, the point is that poor is when you are in a low financial level that makes it difficult for you to meet your needs and also when you have difficulty keeping up with the times, this is not a solution but a condition in various categories.

And if we talk about solutions to get out of poverty then of course there are many things that can be done that they can reach and that they can take advantage of, everyone has the opportunity but not everyone can take advantage of it well and it is also not uncommon that there are always people who are stuck in the comfort zone and that is because they do not want to step up or are too afraid to take action because they may have a high level of worry.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: hyudien on April 15, 2024, 02:50:09 PM
On what basis do you know that poor people do not like to learn, do not like to improve their knowledge to improve their lives? Like our parents, they are also farmers who have a hard life but will always find ways to give their children the opportunity to go to school and learn fully. If they are not aware that knowledge is the key to escape poverty, why should they work so hard to send you to school?

It's not that the poor are not aware of the key to escaping poverty, but sometimes the harshness of life forces them to make choices. Not everyone has an easy life like us, you're not in their shoes and you know nothing about what they go through. So don't try to act like you're smarter than them.
That's true, no matter how difficult the family's economic situation is, of course the family will try the best for their children. By including it in school, in my opinion it has become a necessity which is indeed done. Even though there are people or families who may have very difficult family situations, whether it be economically or financially, so that they can't afford school fees and their children can't go to school, I still think positively even though they can't go to school, but I think they will definitely learn even though they are not in school.
Maybe he has experienced that situation, so he can say that is how poor people feel. I myself am grateful to be lucky because I am always financially sufficient and able to meet my needs. Sometimes, even though they have a way to get out of poverty, the surrounding environment is not supportive, so the hardships of life force them to make a choice.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Marvell1 on April 18, 2024, 12:24:36 PM
On what basis do you know that poor people do not like to learn, do not like to improve their knowledge to improve their lives? Like our parents, they are also farmers who have a hard life but will always find ways to give their children the opportunity to go to school and learn fully. If they are not aware that knowledge is the key to escape poverty, why should they work so hard to send you to school?

It's not that the poor are not aware of the key to escaping poverty, but sometimes the harshness of life forces them to make choices. Not everyone has an easy life like us, you're not in their shoes and you know nothing about what they go through. So don't try to act like you're smarter than them.
That's true, no matter how difficult the family's economic situation is, of course the family will try the best for their children. By including it in school, in my opinion it has become a necessity which is indeed done. Even though there are people or families who may have very difficult family situations, whether it be economically or financially, so that they can't afford school fees and their children can't go to school, I still think positively even though they can't go to school, but I think they will definitely learn even though they are not in school.
Maybe he has experienced that situation, so he can say that is how poor people feel. I myself am grateful to be lucky because I am always financially sufficient and able to meet my needs. Sometimes, even though they have a way to get out of poverty, the surrounding environment is not supportive, so the hardships of life force them to make a choice.

I'm not afraid to say frankly that most of us are poor, and still have to work hard to earn money to cover our daily lives, including me. Maybe we have a better life than some people, many people have more difficult circumstances than us, but that doesn't mean we are rich and can teach people what to do to escape poverty. Life is extremely harsh and each country and region will have its own difficulties, so don't ever think that everyone will have as many opportunities as us and think that escaping poverty is easy. I'm not a rich person either because if I were rich I certainly wouldn't be here anymore so advising someone to escape poverty is impossible.

Topics like this are just poor people teaching poor people how to get rich, there is no effective advice here.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: Zanab247 on April 26, 2024, 07:00:41 PM
Do you think you can help your community to get rich without a single poor people in the community? i don't think so, even government who are the most influential and wealthy in a country can't make such promises and fulfill it to their citizens.

You can give them idea to improve in the community, that will make them not to depend on other people before they can feed but there are some people who will never listen to your advise than to remain poor in the community because getting rich, they believe is for some certain people in the community, not knowing that they can get rich if they can take the risk to look for potential assets to invest.

You can solve some poor people problem, but you can't solve the whole community problem because there are some people who try it in the past, but they failed that made them to vow never to force people from their wish because there are some people who have concluded to remain poor forever.


Title: Re: Poor people need solution now
Post by: ferida504 on April 26, 2024, 07:26:37 PM
My people in the province have lands, can sustain themselves fairly well, yet still categorized as poor by the indices proposed by organizations. They don't have much money in the bank, but their lands are worth millions and refuse to sell that because that's what they only know. They can adapt to any changes in the economy, and that's the 'poor' people I aspire to be.

When you increase in the societal ladder in terms of finances, you also increase your expenses which makes it harder for you to fill your 'needs'. These simple people from above do what they do best and are living happy lives because they have food to eat and land to farm on. They don't ask for anything else except good harvest. I guess, if you're self-sustainable, you don't need that much money and can still become 'poor' to the eyes of other people.

If you look at the current statistics, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, this is very much influenced by weak government supervision. Currently agricultural products are bought at low prices while costs such as fertilizer and pesticides are sold at high prices, this is one of the factors of weak supervision plus poor irrigation. Another influence is the existence of business credit loans with high interest which really ensnares the people who weak economy. The government must make strict regulations on all forms of loans so that people can be free from loans with high interest rates.