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Title: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Princess Leah on February 22, 2024, 10:06:03 PM
 First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SamReomo on February 22, 2024, 10:28:34 PM
No, being a graduate doesn't qualify someone to be rich. It takes a lot of time to complete your graduation and but we can see so many examples of dropouts who are among the world's richest people. When we talk about dropouts we first remember the name of Bill Gates, he's a dropout but he made huge wealth because he followed his passion.

Not only Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison, Steve Jobs, and many dropouts have reached the highest levels of wealth in their lives. If they can achieve such levels of wealth by being dropouts then why not others? I know that there are some graduates who have made also similar levels of wealth but I don' think that someone's wealth has any relation with their graduation.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Assface16678 on February 22, 2024, 10:33:30 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Well technically yes, we have many popular and successful person as an example, the creator of facebook, even he didn't have a degree and graduated he become successful because he used his skill and knowledge in order to come up with something that could make him successful. Well technically you really can become successful or rich, if you will use your skill and knowledge or where you good at, its not necessary that you didn't graduate means you are dumb, in the end of the day the success of a person will depends on how will he manipulate his life in order to become successful.

But of course nothing's more satisfying than having a degree or graduelated, like I said if you don't want to then do what you want but make sure you can be successful, because the truth is now a days it became a norms in society that you will be looked down if you didn't have a degree or it will be hard for you to get a job because of the required degree, what I'm saying is that if you want a safe place then do your best to get a degree first but if you are confident enough that you can do better in life even without that degree then its good.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on February 22, 2024, 10:48:50 PM
Well, just like SamReomo already stated, formal education doesn't guarantee that one will become very successful and wealthy in life. Formal education can pave the way for an individual to become eligible in a way that could be of great importance in the career they choose. For example, if someone is an entrepreneur and naturally knows how to manage a start-up and has probably grown into a big business, if they take on a professional business undergraduate degree program, they could become more oriented in business and come up with more great ideas that can help them become more wealthier.

I wanted to say that most of the richest men in the world today did not become very wealthy because of formal education, but they were not illiterate either. We have seen some professors who are really very educated in terms of academics, and most of these people are not richer than some billionaires who are not professors but are world public figures. The difference is that some people love academic work dearly, so they want to study to the last degree they can acquire, while those who are very wealthy are more concerned about earning money, so they will always crack ideas that can help them explore more.

Like I said, everyone has dreams of what they want to become. Some people want to excel in academic work; they don't have too many concerns about money, while others don't need too many degrees in order to become wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: oktana on February 22, 2024, 11:01:48 PM
People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 22, 2024, 11:31:25 PM
School is essential but most times there are people who are too carried away with their degree or certificate and they are too boost about themselves. When you rely on your certificate you get loosed and keep waiting for white scholar jobs but those who made lower credit or second class can actually rely on their skills. Skills is what keep those that doesn't have a good certificates or those who doesn't go school, that is why you see them putting more efforts to work hard to make sure their skills pays them off than their certificate since they can't use to secure a credible work or what can put food on their table.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Stepstowealth on February 22, 2024, 11:34:17 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating.
Education gives you an advantage and makes you more likely to be rich and wealthy. There are poor graduates for many reasons like,
the system failing them, that is after school there was no good job available for them, some of them were not serious in school and because of their poor grades made themselves not eligible for good jobs. There are some poor graduates because education does not remove automatically financial indiscipline. Some graduates are poor because they have failed to keep money to build wealth when they had it.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: topbitcoin on February 22, 2024, 11:36:01 PM
Go to college and graduate and get a bachelor's degree, then apply for a job or open a business, have a high income and can buy a luxury car and live in elite housing. That's what ordinary people think... Hihihi

even though life is not that easy, friend. Job opportunities are increasingly narrowing, business competition is getting tougher and not to mention other problems. which in the end we can see for ourselves at this time, where so many graduates are unemployed and still depend on their parents for their livelihoods. But life is about effort, not results. because good results depend on a process and the efforts we make. Improving our mindset and deepening our knowledge and skills is something we have to do, so that we will become someone who is an expert in their field. Sitting at college is an opportunity that not everyone can get, but it is a shame that some of them waste this opportunity, so that in the end when they graduate they are completely unable to take responsibility for the degree and knowledge they have obtained. Those who while studying only pursue grades and degrees, but not the knowledge they study in depth, because their goal in studying is high grades and getting a degree. So it is quite natural that many of them after graduating from college are unemployed, and are unable to create an opportunity to build a business, because in fact, what they are after is grades, which they can even deliberately behave dishonestly. in order to get high marks.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: franky1 on February 22, 2024, 11:44:12 PM
having A degree with debt, offers no promises of wealth
having a degree in a skill of employable demand with debt offers no promises of wealth, but has better prospects
having a degree in a skill of employable demand without debt offers no promises of wealth, but has even better prospects
having a degree in a skill of employable demand with a skilled job waiting with debt offers some hopes of wealth, has even better prospects

having a degree in a skill of employable demand with a skilled job paying for university, has even better prospects of wealth


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: mirakal on February 22, 2024, 11:57:33 PM
Being a graduate does not guarantee financial success and stability. However, once you’re a graduate, rest assured that you will receive bigger opportunities than those who did not managed to finish their studies. But, opportunities won’t make you rich because it’s all on the mindset and perspective of an individual that will make him rich. One can make a lot of money, if he really wants to make a lot of money. That alone can proves that if one exerts a lot of time and efforts to reach his goals, he will definitely achieve it. But if one tends to procrastinate things and create a lot of excuses, that means he’s no longer interested to become rich in the process. What you sow is what you reap.




Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: dothebeats on February 22, 2024, 11:58:50 PM
Some of it has to do with the program that the graduate has chosen.

There are graduates that are getting a huge salary simply because their field is so specific and their niche only has a few people working on it. There are also those graduates wherein their field is oversaturated with people that's why the rates are extremely low This is why if you want to succeed by going the academic route, it's important to know if the field you want to specialize on has a lot of people already or not. If not, go for it, see if you'd like it, and stay in there for good to get the rewards eventually.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Yamane_Keto on February 23, 2024, 02:34:42 AM
It is no longer advice to wake up early, study hard, get high grades, graduate from university and you will find a suitable job that is sufficient to pay your expenses. It is advice that you can teach your children, as life has changed. We are no longer in the 1950s, where a university degree was something that guaranteed you a good life. Today’s students are studying. Master's and doctorate degrees to obtain jobs due to high competition. Either you have a specialized degree in a rare field or you have a higher degree such as a doctorate in traditional fields to be able to compete.
Earning money through academic education is a long road and requires a lot of effort and money, but it remains the easiest way if you continue to continue your studies.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: shinratensei_ on February 23, 2024, 03:14:56 AM
when everyone has bachelor degree does it still matter that we have bachelor degree? does it put us to an advantage? definitely not, thats the thing many people are in debt to pay the tuition fee for these college including poor people, that for the sake of getting degree, because the world of working nowaday being gate keep by this qualification, a degree is the bare minimum these days, definitely the saying about being a graduate is the key to being wealthy has become more and more irrelevant, soon we also gonna get oversupply of phds, does that mean getting those degree is useless? definitely not, at least it opens up opportunity for you to start out, at least you know you are qualified and already meet the minimum requirement.
its definitely a good thing to have, i've seen plenty of people that goes straight to trade school and bootcamp also regretting why they not getting a degree because certain thing mainly because despite many people saying college is all about theory but it really give a good foundation for our knowledge for us to learn in the future.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Strongkored on February 23, 2024, 03:18:41 AM
People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.
If anyone thinks that being an employee in a company means making him a slave then let him stop working and he will definitely be enslaved by his poverty, why? because if not all graduates can be successful and being wealthy then not everyone can become succesfull entrepreneurs.
There are people who do not graduate who can be successful and being wealthy, but there are many more who do not graduate and are poor and find it difficult to develop themselves, and vice versa, there are graduates who fail but many more are successful, so don't generalize one or two cases, because after all, a graduate has more value. For example, you certainly wouldn't choose a country leader who didn't graduate.
A graduate must be able to develop himself so that he can become wealthy, as well as those who are less fortunate because of the economy so cannot graduate can continue to develop themselves in different ways and ultimately become wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Oasisman on February 23, 2024, 03:45:37 AM
If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?

Well, having a high educational attainment doesn't guarantee wealth, BUT, it could give you a better opportunity than those who did not finish college.
However, life is a continuous learning, if a non graduate decided to learn everything outside the school and continue learning consistently, he'd most likely going to succeed than those graduates who become complacent of the current job they are in.
Nowadays, there are a lot of gigs and niche online that would let you earn at the comfort of your home and sometimes, a 4 year degree may not be necessary as long as your skills are competitive enough to compete in the growing industry.
I've known a lot of people who hasn't finished college, but are earning more than those graduates who works for the government.
Education is just really a piece of paper if you stop learning after graduation. Mastering and enhancing your degree will give you more edges against the other competitors in the same field of interest.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on February 23, 2024, 03:59:10 AM
First of all, graduating with a degree doesn't really mean you are going to be wealthy for sure, it's a good thing if you can finish your education, and it's a good start for you when finding a job but it doesn't really mean that you are going to be a wealth person if you graduated, Its also true that having good grades doesn't really mean anything as long as passed it is still fine, I mean you could graduate with honors or cum laude but still gonna end up getting a minimum salary, probably would still depend on your experience on what salary you're going to get. So even though you have high grades most of it will not matter at all in the end.

If we going to look at millionaires nowadays we can see that they don't really carry any kind of degree and they are mostly dropouts from school, they they still find a way to be rich, In the end, it would still depends on your own determination, etc. finishing education is a good guide for you, or we could say that it is a great plan B incase you fail on something that you are doing having the degree meaning you already have the credibility that you could finish a task and your not easily going to quit, that is why employer are mostly going to hire graduates for sure since they have that kind of experience on finishing there degree.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: adaseb on February 23, 2024, 05:05:34 AM
The reason why is because the education business is mostly profit based. They want to get the most amount of profit of tuition with the least amount of costs.

They know that everybody wants a good education and good life, so they charge a lot of money for this. Another way they make more money is to have more students.

So there is 1 program for 500 students. And eventually these 500 students will compete with one another for the same job when they graduate. And most likely only 50 jobs will be available.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Churchillvv on February 23, 2024, 05:22:32 AM
Education is different from being a graduate. you can be educated in diverse ways but yet not a graduate of the formal education. success is not determine with your level of grades but it only helps you to become more broad in thinking.

Most of the successful people you know where educated in a particular skill not in degrees, according Elon musk, he said the difference between you and success if focus, if you focus on one thing with 100 percent you will become more successful than using 20 per cent to focus on different things. that is the reason why this people we know to be very rich are successful because of the level of focus and  discipline they have. you must have the characteristics of success to be successful, the formal education in my own perspective isn't even helping in some areas. people work hard to graduate with good grades to come out and start begging for jobs, the first letter you write as a graduate is also I beg to apply. it had be institutionalized that way the people we admire noticed this and with the ambition of not working under anyone left the universities to achieve their dreams.

If a graduate can be focused enough to chase his or her dreams then they will be successful too.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Plaguedeath on February 23, 2024, 07:13:56 AM
Because they don't have a good knowledge about money.

They go to school, playing together, take a student loan, go to college, working only to pay off the debts, go to party, have a girlfriend, live in luxury lifestyle, and didn't invest the money.

How they can build their wealth if they choose to enjoy their life instead of delay the instant gratification?


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sanitough on February 23, 2024, 07:40:26 AM
Because they don't have a good knowledge about money.

They go to school, playing together, take a student loan, go to college, working only to pay off the debts, go to party, have a girlfriend, live in luxury lifestyle, and didn't invest the money.

How they can build their wealth if they choose to enjoy their life instead of delay the instant gratification?
Makes sense. Building wealth is like sacrificing some of your wants and needs so you’ll be able to save and invest. However, there’s no wrong when you want to enjoy your life but enjoyment requires expenses, so the more you enjoy having luxuries all around, the bigger the amount you take away from your salary, in which you can use it instead to start building your wealth.

Graduates stay being poor because they chose to live with it. Because if they really aim to get away from poverty, they need to sacrifice their comfortability and endure hardship and struggles in the process, otherwise if they chose the other life instead, that means they don’t envision theirselves to get rich and wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Barikui1 on February 23, 2024, 08:17:27 AM
In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: yhiaali3 on February 23, 2024, 08:24:30 AM
Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.
This is a big problem that we suffer from here in my country and in developing countries in general. Most academic graduates who have high grades and graduate with excellent grades are unemployed due to the inability of governments to secure suitable jobs for them.

Or because of their inability to secure the resources necessary to start their own project, even though in theory they have the competence required to carry out successful projects, but they lack funding or the opportunity to obtain suitable work.
In contrast, most of those who left school at an early age and have no education have their own businesses and earn so well from them that academics would envy them.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Princess Leah on February 23, 2024, 08:44:00 AM
Education is different from being a graduate. you can be educated in diverse ways but yet not a graduate of the formal education. success is not determine with your level of grades but it only helps you to become more broad in thinking.

Most of the successful people you know where educated in a particular skill not in degrees, according Elon musk, he said the difference between you and success if focus, if you focus on one thing with 100 percent you will become more successful than using 20 per cent to focus on different things. that is the reason why this people we know to be very rich are successful because of the level of focus and  discipline they have. you must have the characteristics of success to be successful, the formal education in my own perspective isn't even helping in some areas. people work hard to graduate with good grades to come out and start begging for jobs, the first letter you write as a graduate is also I beg to apply. it had be institutionalized that way the people we admire noticed this and with the ambition of not working under anyone left the universities to achieve their dreams.

If a graduate can be focused enough to chase his or her dreams then they will be successful too.
  I think you're right, I won't advice people not to get educated cause I'll be wrong. Infact, I'm 100% in support of education be it formal or informal cause I'm fully aware of the roles it plays in our societies, it helps develope children for a better future and also increases one's opportunity to living a better life.Yes success is not measured with one's level of grade rather but by your personal development, how well you impact your society also by your persistence and consistency.

 It is also not a bad idea to gain formal education by going to college, try to get good grades and become a graduate, but it doesn't end there cause being a graduate and depending on certificate alone doesn't guarantee one to be wealthy in future, you also have to educate yourself on certain skills outside your field of study, build good relationship with people that could help you succeed, you also have to discipline yourself to live a good life and desist from habits or characters that could hinder your chances of being successful.

 Also Elon Musk was right when he said that, to be successful one has to be focused. You also need  to be good at saving and have a plan B incase the certificate doesn't fetch you a good paying job, thereby learning some skills and work on earning with it. Also, set aside goals and focus on reaching those goals and once you've achieved that the next step is to work on maintaining consistency, your income could be slow at first but steady, that's my own opinion of being a successful graduate and acquiring wealth.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: zaim7413 on February 23, 2024, 08:48:49 AM
For me, it is important to take the educational path so that we cannot be fooled or deceived by other people. Through education you can be more creative freely, especially in this era of very sophisticated digitalization, there are lots of jobs you can do after studying at university which makes it easier for you to accumulate wealth. There is no guarantee that graduates will have a better life with all the wealth they have and it is possible that people who have dropped out of school will be more successful than those who have graduated. The success of people who dropped out of school in being on the list of the richest people in the world indicates that university graduates are not always able to produce great people.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: arwin100 on February 23, 2024, 09:01:40 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

You need to know that education will not solve all your problems and it will not make you automatically wealthy since it depends on the person on how resourceful they are finding those opportunities that can help them earn a lot of money and change their life. Also there are graduates still broke because they didn't take anything seriously and they are complacent and think that opportunity is there because they are graduate and have good credentials but end up struggling when they face the reality that everything in life is so hard. There are also undergrad became so rich because they take all the opportunities that possibly give them some money whatever it takes or hardship they encounter and the result became so good to the.

But on all of this people should not think about that its not necessary to graduate since its important for a person to graduate on college since a lot of companies asking a lot from their applicants and they want college graduate since they think they are more effective. And people should think about their next action once they graduate since its really better to have a lot of option than having or taking one shot opportunity since most likely we might struggle to survive with that.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2024, 09:27:21 AM
According the question in the subject of this thread, being a graduate is not an automic ticket to a life of wealth and affluence, but rather, it serves as the key to opening the doors of opportunities that if well utilized and managed, can lead to a life of wealth.

People can be well educated, but if after school, they get their certificate, go home and dump it, then go into the street and start living of life of a gangster, such a person's education is simply but a waste, as the only thing he benefitted from it is the ability to speak and write in good English.

Education does not attract wealth, what we do with our life, time, brains and so on, is that attracts wealth to us, and some uneducated people who discover this secret most of the time also end up becoming super wealthy, hiring the educated ones to manage his or her businesses and companies for him or her.

So, for us to attract wealth, we must do what attracts wealth, being a graduate only gives us the opportunity of being ahead of those who are not graduates, or not educated.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: LogitechMouse on February 23, 2024, 03:34:01 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth.
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Who said this to you? He must be drunk while saying this, eh?
Why there are poor graduates? Because graduating alone isn't enough to be wealthy. Very simple.

I mean come on, there many people who are graduating yearly around the world. If graduating alone is the only requirement to be wealthy then all of us must be wealthy already. Graduating will give you a higher chance of getting a job since many companies are hiring graduates still. Graduating from college gives you a higher chance of getting hired, but it isn't the only way to be wealthy. Trust me when I say that I've seen many graduates here in our country who ended up earning way lesser than a person who didn't graduate from college. Why? Decision-making, strategies in life, financial literacy, skills, lack of mentor, lack of passion. These are just some of the reasons why it happens.

I don't want to deal too much with it, but my point is that graduating isn't enough to become wealthy. Some of the famous businessmen currently didn't graduate from college as well. I guess try to follow Robert Kiyosaki and he always says that schools are one of the biggest scammers right now because they aren't teaching their students how to handle money, and I agree with it because it came from a rich businessman like him.

In life, we need skills to survive. Graduating alone isn't enough to survive in a cruel world like this. If we want to be wealthy, let's do what the wealthy people are doing.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fiatless on February 23, 2024, 04:52:57 PM
Being a graduate does not guarantee financial success and stability. However, once you’re a graduate, rest assured that you will receive bigger opportunities than those who did not managed to finish their studies. But, opportunities won’t make you rich because it’s all on the mindset and perspective of an individual that will make him rich. One can make a lot of money, if he really wants to make a lot of money. That alone can proves that if one exerts a lot of time and efforts to reach his goals, he will definitely achieve it. But if one tends to procrastinate things and create a lot of excuses, that means he’s no longer interested to become rich in the process. What you sow is what you reap.
We have to define what we mean by wealth. I don't think that being wealthy is when you have so much money to spend on luxury and pleasure. To some people to be wealthy is the ability to be able to provide what they need and also have extra to save and invest. The university is just a place to open the minds of graduates. It is a learning ground not just to get good grades and paper qualifications but to open students to innovation, creative thinking and problem-solving skills. So graduates should be able to come out of school with the ability to identify and solve problems. So every graduate should be dedicated, hardworking and persistent in his business, work or other endeavor to become wealthy.

Apart from employability skills, the university also helps to build good character. The certificate in the university is given after the students have been deemed fit in character and learning. So apart from developing skills every graduate should develop good character such as honesty, truthfulness, contentment, teamwork, accountability, etc. A good grade might give someone a job but it is a good character that can help the person sustain the job.  


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: nngella on February 23, 2024, 05:10:52 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Being a graduate is not a sufficient condition in order to become wealthy, but having the cobb-douglas production function as the basis, it is one of the necessary ingredient in order to increase income.  Per the equation, labor productivity will increase the income of an individual and household.  Labor productivity is directly correlated to the educational level of the individual and household.  Hence, we can say that education is highly correlated with the income of the individual/household.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Distinctin on February 23, 2024, 08:08:11 PM
In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.
Being a degree holder will not guarantee being wealthy in the future, but it can be a stepping milestone so you can achieve your financial goals in life. Schooling is not the key, but investment is certainly the key. If you don’t open your eyes to the reality of life, you will never see progress, if you don’t invest, you will never be wealthy.

However, the process is not that easy. Sometimes getting into your wealth demands sacrifice. So you need to actually compromise what you have been used to do and start getting out from your shell. Be a risk taker and be patient, and always believe in your own skills and capabilities, they are the keys to achieve your wealth in the future.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Y3shot on February 23, 2024, 08:46:25 PM
Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: boyptc on February 23, 2024, 08:54:21 PM
It's not a guaranteed thing that after graduation, you'll be rich. But there's the advantage of someone graduating and going on in the job market.

The graduate person has an advantage over those other applicants that are not yet degree holders if the company prefers someone who has finished a degree.

It's all about the preference of the company if we're talking with the path of being an employee and not being rich. I knew a lot of people that didn't finished college but are successful like Mark and other those tech CEOs.

But they're all talented and more than a risk taker.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: darkangel11 on February 23, 2024, 08:58:12 PM
You're asking us a question by taking a statement for granted, like it's some kind of rule. No, graduating isn't a key to being wealthy, this isn't true, so the whole followup makes no sense. We don't have to prove why there are poor graduates to you, because the first part of the question is false.

Anyway, poor graduates exist exactly because graduating isn't a key to anything. It helps you get a job, but it's not a guarantee of wealth! A good example of this is a person that I know who graduated with a degree in math and immediately got a job as a teacher. That person still is a teacher after 10 years and used to earn very little and is now still earning the same shitty money. It was hard to get a degree and that degree made it easy to get a job, but that job will never make you wealthy. It's a below average pay with no way to become anything else. You start as a teacher and end up as a teacher after 40 years in the system. I also know a man who never got a degree and drove a truck. He did not even finish high school, yet he earns more as a driver than that match teacher.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Furious 7 on February 23, 2024, 08:58:36 PM
The stigma about the purpose of education is to be successful is actually not wrong but its placement is sometimes less precise.
We must realize that until now the purpose of education is to make us who originally did not know to know not instantly become someone who is rich, it's just that we are always pegged that sometimes with education and certificates obtained in education is a thing that can become rich.

Indeed, it is also actually not to blame but it is less precise because education is a bridge so that we become more informed and can be used as one aspect in supporting so that we have a good economy. But on the other hand it is also not enough with education alone because if the benchmark is a certificate then until now we will not see microsoft created by Bill Gates who is rich in his own way because after all we have to be able to survive to become rich and one of the stairs to be able to get wealth is a good education so that we can become someone who is responsive and educated to assess something.
Not that those who do not know formal education and do not have educational certificates will not be successful and rich but at least there is something more that we can see and use as initial capital if we have education.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: goaldigger on February 23, 2024, 09:19:40 PM
Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
Education plays an important role to become more successful and having your degree is not the end of your journey to success because it will still take time and you need to do a lot of work for you to become successful or even become rich. Many educated people are not that successful because of their choices in life and because of being afraid to go out of their comfort zone. There’s a lot of opportunity out there, once you are able to get your degree and your dream profession, make sure to do your best and be more inspired to reach your goal, this is not a race though and we all have the chance to become rich.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Queentoshi on February 23, 2024, 09:49:13 PM
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I don't think that western education has ever been one of the requirements for someone to be successful because if you remember well from movies and stories before the advent and priority of western education, they have always been wealthy men in history. There are some undergraduates in school already making money and not even planning to use the certificate from what they are studying to look for job. These people just need the certificate from western education. When someone has not acquired certificates from Western School the person should not be considered a complete illiterate incapable of the getting wealthy because there are some local knowledge that can passed onwards from our fathers in the form of Education that can turn us into world demand tomorrow.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: oktana on February 23, 2024, 10:00:19 PM
People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.
If anyone thinks that being an employee in a company means making him a slave then let him stop working and he will definitely be enslaved by his poverty,
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Saying that being an employee in a company makes one a slave doesn’t mean that you should wake up tomorrow morning and go quit your job. It rather means that while you’re doing the job, have other plans. While working, you should be looking for ways to ensure that you make more money and have more control over your time. People spend up to 7 years of their life working for a company, isn’t that slavery? (they choose to be the slave). The race from poverty doesn’t mean you should keep your dream aside and put all your life building someone else’s dream.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: tabas on February 23, 2024, 10:22:38 PM
Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
That's true, although there are many out of school youth. There are also many people that have their graduate studies but that doesn't signify that they're going to be rich and successful in life. The attitude towards to something what they do and even their work ethics is going to contribute to their future. While I believe that education is important and everyone should be entitled for that. But with students loans, graduate people are working to pay off those debt. If there's a way to eliminate that the quickest way, that should be done so that as a graduate student, you have a good start and your mind isn't set into paying those debt first because it's going to cause you stress and anxiety that might affect your encouragement into working to something you love.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Mrbluntzy on February 23, 2024, 11:21:29 PM

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Yes you are correct. Education prepares an individual towards any challenging problem that they can face in the society or in the labour market. Education can make someone to become smarter. Education is not only about becoming rich, there are graduates that doesn't want to become very rich, they also don't want to be poor but want to be in the middle so that they can at satisfy their needs.  I am a student, one day me and my colleagues in school were having a debate on the reason why some people choose education. From our debate, it was concluded that most people acquire education because they want to get a job after graduation.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Russlenat on February 23, 2024, 11:52:39 PM
In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.
We can’t expect that graduates will become rich immediately. They still have to work on what they have studied from schools. While schooling cannot give them assurance to be successful in the future, but in order for one to succeed, one should gain good education and quality learning wherein schools are capable of that. But it does not mean that once you graduate, you’re bound to be rich. No. You make your own fate and destination. The great challenge here is how you will apply everything you have learned when you are still in schools.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 23, 2024, 11:56:19 PM
Going to school or becoming a graduate is not a guarantee that one will be rich.  If being a graduate is what makes people to be rich every graduate would have been rich . People becomes rich for so many reasons,  and their is no particular formula to acquire wealth or to becomes rich. When you see graduate who are not rich , just know that it is not everyone that passed through school will become rich .
That's true, although there are many out of school youth. There are also many people that have their graduate studies but that doesn't signify that they're going to be rich and successful in life. The attitude towards to something what they do and even their work ethics is going to contribute to their future. While I believe that education is important and everyone should be entitled for that. But with students loans, graduate people are working to pay off those debt. If there's a way to eliminate that the quickest way, that should be done so that as a graduate student, you have a good start and your mind isn't set into paying those debt first because it's going to cause you stress and anxiety that might affect your encouragement into working to something you love.

Education is important in attaining someone else's ambition but your actions will tell you what are you gonna achieve in life. If you won't use your education to develop your skills to find good income, it will only stay that way. It is still on you how you will exhaust the potential of what you learned in improving your means of living. Just look at some people who only got their Bachelor's degree, and yet, they are doing good in life. Whereas, some with graduate studies are barely surviving in their day to day life. It goes to show that the education is not the ultimate basis where you go in life, but sure, it can aid you achieve things if you know how to employ it in advancing yourself in this life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: boty on February 24, 2024, 02:16:47 AM
For me, it is important to take the educational path so that we cannot be fooled or deceived by other people. Through education you can be more creative freely, especially in this era of very sophisticated digitalization, there are lots of jobs you can do after studying at university which makes it easier for you to accumulate wealth. There is no guarantee that graduates will have a better life with all the wealth they have and it is possible that people who have dropped out of school will be more successful than those who have graduated. The success of people who dropped out of school in being on the list of the richest people in the world indicates that university graduates are not always able to produce great people.

I agree with what you say, that education is very important even though there are some people who say that you don't have to go through education to become rich, but at least we have found a lot of knowledge that we have gained during education and this will make it easier for us to find suitable work. with the skills we have, for those who achieve success they do not go through college, of course they have gone through various learning processes outside of college which enable them to achieve success. The point is that everyone has to work hard and learn well what they will do if they want to achieve success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 24, 2024, 05:43:01 AM
In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.

Fair and very well said. You shouldn’t always consider everything from a financial perspective. Education makes our lives more meaningful. People with correct views have the best moral qualities, for which the person is first important and only then the desire for wealth. The world is becoming very practical, so much so that people cease to be people and value everything only in terms of money. Listen to the answers of young people if you ask them the question: What will you do for money? You will be shocked.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on February 24, 2024, 05:57:48 AM
It's like asking why people who don't smoke get lung cancer or people who smoke live to be 90 years old. It is a question of probabilities. On average the income of those with university degrees is higher than those without. Then, for those who have a degree and are poor, in most cases it is because they have chosen a degree that has little use in the marketplace. You will see few poor doctors, but don't be surprised to see philosophy graduates with little income.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: kentrolla on February 24, 2024, 06:30:34 AM
We need to understand one thing that graduate degree doesn't automatically qualifies you for job and it's actually skills which makes one qualify for the job and I wouldn't like to share the examples Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg as even though they couldn't complete the education still they being successful but if you look at job post shared by these people for their organisation you will find they prefer graduates and


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Haunebu on February 24, 2024, 07:17:34 AM
Getting a graduate degree is like getting a visa. It's basically an entry point into a vast and competitive world where only the strongest survive while the weak perish. Skills plus luck matter a lot in such a world.

If your skills suck, no number of graduate degrees can help you. On the other hand, if your skills are awesome, a single graduate degree from any legit university will get the job done.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: ThePromise on February 24, 2024, 08:49:19 AM

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.


That's true, There's a lot college graduates in many countries but still not that wealthy because thay didn't have a chance to explore and can show their talent. sometimes they just accept a job that is not suitable for the course they completed, there are many college graduates who if you look at it, why are they not progressing in life? it's also because of the companies that pay low wages but give a lot of workload, which is also underpaid.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Adreman23 on February 24, 2024, 09:09:50 AM
I believe that learning doesn't just happen within the confines of schools but also through interactions with other people, experiences, and personal efforts to understand something. There are well known successful individuals today who are dropouts and did not graduate, but that doesn't mean they didn't learn. Many of these successful people exerted effort to learn, such as having a passion for reading books and other activities. On the other hand, many students who attend school do not necessarily study or are lazy to learn. Therefore, when they finish their studies, they have acquired only a small amount of knowledge, so they won't really progress compared to some dropouts who exerted their own efforts to study and gained a wealth of knowledge, which is why they are very successful now.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Iroh on February 24, 2024, 09:21:21 AM
Having an education and the certificate that’s comes from it doesn’t guarantee one a job. While your degrees may shows you’re certified and have the necessary educational qualifications for an opening, it still may not be enough for the employer.
Most job applicants applying has the basic educational requirements needed hence the employer may decide to use other methods in his selection process which could lead to weeding out applicants with high grades.

I don’t think anyone ever said being a graduate is the key to being wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: teamsherry on February 24, 2024, 09:48:23 AM
Mate that's the biggest scam that the government has made people to think so they could get them to serve their country 🙄, look around how many graduates are amongst the world billionaires or control power in terms of wealth, you were very specific, you said wealth not beign rich, you can't be greater than your boss no matter how much he pays you for your job, even if you earn a million per hour, you should have in mind that your making him 10x that amount.

Now that for the rich graduates that were good enough to get a job, what about the other poor graduates that couldn't get themselves a job to achieve their dream lifestyle and what about other that haven't gotten a job, speaking relative to some poor counties which high unemployment rate, some of them has resulted to doing some road side job and hustles just to survive cause their so called government made school so compulsory then failed to provide a job for them.

Everyone needs to breakout of that mentality that getting a job or relying on the government can save us, for the past 100 years the world has been falling apart, government are owing countries some in billions other in trillions, they have also Continued to fail in keeping their promise, how can you still hope in this walk people and their falling system to save you, going to school is not bad but thinking that's the road to wealth is just like feeling cause I know how to run ill win the Olympics, go get yourself a skill, get some ideas, build connections, create a team and start building something, besides this is the only solution all our great billionaires and business men and investors all say thesame thign iys the only way the hard way. Relying g on government is trash practice


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: indah rezqi on February 24, 2024, 10:39:44 AM
In essence, the world of education is a place to hone thinking skills, not a place to seek wealth. With the understanding and skills that have been learned becoming a tool to seek wealth in a wider environment, a diploma is not a guarantee that someone will achieve financial freedom. It all depends on yourself, interest and talent are gifts, but working hard and consistently is the key to becoming rich. Learning today feeds the future, and learning doesn't have to go through formal education which is labeled with a diploma when completed, many people are richer even though they don't have the privilege of studying until college.

The world of education sometimes forms a person like a robot, a worker with a fixed monthly salary and a bonus at the end of the year, a cycle that repeats itself until retirement. Being rich doesn't require a diploma. I remember the story of a football player who was successful without studying at a club academy, even his skills and abilities looked more elegant and were in demand by many big clubs. In my opinion, this example is very relevant regarding the relationship between being rich and having a diploma.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Synchronice on February 24, 2024, 10:58:36 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy but so it is not a key to be uneducated. You just have to be smart, you need to improve your social skills, improve your charisma, confidence, improve your visual, be healthy and in a good shape and most importantly, you have to dedicate yourself to particular job, master it and become one of the greatest of all time (I know I went too far).

To my mind, the problem we have is that many people go into universities to be able to get a basic office job and they don't understand that competition is very high and there are many people who are willing to study more, work more and work for less salary. I think that today there are many overeducated people and there isn't enough demand on them, except informational technologies and medicine. There is a big demand on trades jobs, for example, plumbers and electricians are on high demand but people rarely choose these professions while they make much more than people with masters and PHD degrees.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: DeathAngel on February 24, 2024, 11:21:21 AM
Having a degree can open doors to better job opportunities & higher income potential but it’s not a guarantee of wealth. There are other things that can help the financial success of a person including personal circumstances, market conditions, job availability & individual choices. Not all degrees lead to high paying careers & some graduates may face challenges such as high student loan debt or lack of relevant skills. At the end of the day, wealth is influenced by a combination of education, skills, opportunities & personal financial management.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Yatsan on February 24, 2024, 04:19:53 PM
Opportunities. In many countries, opportunities with professions and careers are lacking, most often with third world countries as we all know. Local governments aren't giving that much of support with professionals in various fields, forcing graduates to either settle with minimum wage and for those who has resources outside their country, they tend to choose working overseas for financial growth.  Qualifications are also not being met by the salary offers. In some industries, undergraduates are being chosen over graduates to lessen their salary expenses for workers which is another challenge in this discussion. Opportunities across countries aren't equal and also with circumstances.

Skillset of the graduate will also be a factor. Not only because you are a graduate of a degree, the best future will be assured already.  There will always be a competition with different professions; you have to standout among the crowd if you are seeking for success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Samlucky O on February 24, 2024, 05:56:17 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.
Being a graduate does not guarantee success Just as you said. But what I understand about education is that it teaches you to know the basic things that will help you in life in such a way that where ever you go, you will not find it difficult to communicate. Be it oral or written. Some place, before you could achieve anything you must at least have little knowledge about education before participating. E.g filling of form and writing of name or signing a document. But apart from that most people who are educated don't know that education is only an enlightment but they take it to be a skill and expect it to feed them. But not knowing that education is different from skill. Education and skill are supposed to work hand in hand for success to be achieved.

Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.
Those people who are 1st class graduate thinks that There results will help them secure a good job after graduation. Because they have nurtured that mindset that they will get a better job after graduating from school. Not knowing that life outside school is different from life inside school. While some are just lazy hoping to get job from someone who promised them.  But if only dey could start from somewhere and wait for there time to come. Because everything in life is based on timing. If your time has not yet come, no matter how hard you try it might never work out. Another one is that most graduate work hard where it's not there destiny to get rich. Sometimes if you get a job and you have been doing it for long and nothing is coming out, there is a need to change the job otherwise you become a slave and also trapped. And you will chanell or blame your misfortunes to the government mean while there are other ways which you where the one who didn't noticed it.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: electronicash on February 24, 2024, 06:18:32 PM

if college graduates have to pay for their college loans that keep growing due to their interest, they will really not be wealthy unless they get lucky employed with high-paying positions. the graduates these days also are unfortunate at this time however because the economy prevents the business from growing.  but this must depend on the kind of degree a graduate has accomplished, if they could just work independently without having to get employed by a company, it's better for them than being unemployed.

education is still necessary. It is a test of character as my grandparents would always say. you startred it, you finish it til you graduate.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: _BlackStar on February 24, 2024, 06:29:55 PM
A degree or diploma only proves that you have attended school or college - it will not guarantee you success. Education is important because it gives us knowledge - but as others have said, it doesn't guarantee success for you.

The mindset may need to change where being an employee does not have to be the main reason they pursue education. Education is needed so that they don't get lost and become misguided - it has to be something that will support them to be creative, build a business and make money with it instead of just being an employee. To be rich you must have knowledge, ability, hard work, and be consistent in what you do – but you are not required to have a degree.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Claudeake on February 24, 2024, 06:36:07 PM
The mind of a person is the driving force that expresses the personality of the industrial. It has the capacity to reveal the self. The self is the summary of an individual in the society. Therefore, education should be directed towards the cultivation of the mind that provides the access to the knowledge of the self.
But contemporary educational systems globally has failed to avail individuals the correct knowledge of the self that defines a personality. Rather, university admissions are offered to candidates without recourse to the innate potentialities that makes up the total self.
On the basis of this argument, I would explain three facts that make university graduates necessarily not a wealthy person.;
Firstly; in a capitalist society, wealth distribution among the citizens is unevenly structured. The ruling class has the sole monopoly over the distribution of wealth, even as accommodation to this social class is controlled with strict conditions.
Secondly; not all individuals created by God has the potential to be an employer of labour, at best, most persons could get to the Apex of an establishment at the management cadre, supervisors, HODs, clerks etc.
Thirdly; the current educational system, mostly in the underdeveloped climes, has failed to equip more than two third of its learner's the requisite knowledge of the realities of globalized capitalism and it's antics in respect to wealth acquisitions.
These reasons seldom make most university graduates poor and without wealth.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: tsaroz on February 24, 2024, 06:39:05 PM
Graduation still is a key to get involved in some specific profession like you won't get a doctors license till you get a degree. A good, technical job may make you lead a well off life but it won't make you wealthy. Jobs are good at making you survive. And as more people look for the safety of graduation, the competition increases making the job market insecure.

Wealth lies in business and investing on right places. A person doing just his job and spending the salary won't be wealthy unless he effectively manages the money.
To be wealthy, he needs to do a side business or good investment from the capital he generates. Crypto is a good and safer place to invest for short and long term future.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: tabas on February 24, 2024, 06:41:26 PM
That's true, although there are many out of school youth. There are also many people that have their graduate studies but that doesn't signify that they're going to be rich and successful in life. The attitude towards to something what they do and even their work ethics is going to contribute to their future. While I believe that education is important and everyone should be entitled for that. But with students loans, graduate people are working to pay off those debt. If there's a way to eliminate that the quickest way, that should be done so that as a graduate student, you have a good start and your mind isn't set into paying those debt first because it's going to cause you stress and anxiety that might affect your encouragement into working to something you love.

Education is important in attaining someone else's ambition but your actions will tell you what are you gonna achieve in life. If you won't use your education to develop your skills to find good income, it will only stay that way. It is still on you how you will exhaust the potential of what you learned in improving your means of living. Just look at some people who only got their Bachelor's degree, and yet, they are doing good in life. Whereas, some with graduate studies are barely surviving in their day to day life. It goes to show that the education is not the ultimate basis where you go in life, but sure, it can aid you achieve things if you know how to employ it in advancing yourself in this life.

It is the start on how you should deal with life, if you do well in school then that discipline that you have developed there can be applied in your future career. Because that's one of the principles of schools and despite that most of the things there that we learn are basic and the advanced ones are through experiences, it's important that you have to start somewhere and that's through education. At first, it comes from our parents that we should study well so that we can do everything in life after graduation which is okay. It's like a promise that we have to grant to our parents since that's all they're asking. While the others don't grant and ignores that happiness that they might see from their parents and breaks their heart through not finishing it. They are showing it on the way that they know how they can make them proud and that's through their grit and skills that they've developed for which eventually, they're using for making money.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: |MINER| on February 24, 2024, 08:13:51 PM
It is not so much that you become the owner of wealth only after becoming educated.  It is right to study hard but it is wrong to think that you will get a job just by studying.  Even after getting a degree, one has to work hard to succeed.  There is no end to hard work in human life, you have to work forever.  Along with studies, you have to make yourself proficient in any job.  Without skill you cannot survive in this modern world. You have to earn degree by hard work and wealth by skill.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 24, 2024, 08:24:01 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Graduating in school or having a degree isnt a 100% sure that it would be the key to success but its something that recommended for you to have.This is why its a wrong mindset not to finish studies just because
you've seen that there are still undergraduates who do end up on failing their lives or being poor just because they havent get a good job.

Well, it is indeed fact reality that there are really tons of graduates that ended up on having no job. Reasons? High competition, lack of jobs. simply lazy and other possible reasons you could think off.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really be having those realizations that you would really be needing to be wise on looking for one without really that basing or relying with your degree.
You could be able to learn up some online skills on which you could really be to handle yourself on the time that you would be looking for some online job on which the more skills you do have
the higher the chance you could be able to get one.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: famososMuertos on February 24, 2024, 08:55:09 PM
Define rich and poverty under your context.

Defines middle class, lower middle class, upper middle class.

Social status is not directly linked to a university degree.

In the same way, a university degree is not intrinsically linked to a status of wealth, but rather to a status of comfortable life and vocational principles.

Fortunately this is the case, since there are professionals or professions that require a vocation, which often require those social sacrifices or social status.

Wealth is not everyone's pursuit, it is a status of happiness, which is linked to a social class that allows us access to a good life, then from there each person advances based on their skills, knowledge and profession.

In recent years, a matrix of certain Influencers has begun to be created who sell the idea that spending 4 years in school is a waste of time.  When those 4 years (minimum) mean that an engineer, a doctor, a lawyer, a journalist and etc. are a priority of our social system that surely helps the well-being of everyone, poor, middle class, millionaires, billionaire...


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Furious 7 on February 24, 2024, 09:23:20 PM
It is not so much that you become the owner of wealth only after becoming educated.  It is right to study hard but it is wrong to think that you will get a job just by studying.  Even after getting a degree, one has to work hard to succeed.  There is no end to hard work in human life, you have to work forever.  Along with studies, you have to make yourself proficient in any job.  Without skill you cannot survive in this modern world. You have to earn degree by hard work and wealth by skill.
But at the end of the day we have to be able to differentiate between educated and education because they are two concepts that are actually the same but can be different in terms of meaning .
We will be an educated person when we become an educated person but on the other hand we must also be aware that sometimes people who are educated and graduated sometimes not a few of them are not educated .
We can become educated even without having to get an education level because in the end learning can be done anywhere and with anyone which even if it is felt now it will be much more supportive than we just stand idly by to continue reading theory at school.Although it is indeed a good situation because we get a good education but when we only dwell on theory then we will not get significant progress in this regard.

On the other hand i agree that in the end, wealth will only be obtained if we become an educated person because after all, if our brains are empty and cannot manage wealth properly then no matter how much it is, it will definitely run out .


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on February 24, 2024, 09:42:01 PM
I don't know where you got the narrative that being a graduate is a key to being wealthy but you should understand that the reasons for acquiring education is not centered on being rich but to gain knowledge so that you can be able to also interact and have quality conversations with other people because if you are not educated you would find it difficult to relate with people.

Being educated or being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth but at least it will expose you to things you can get involved in and possibly become wealthy in life and being educated also helps to manage one's resources in a case where you are opportuned to have a lot of resources but if you are educated you would find it complex and unable to manage your resources very well.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: South Park on February 24, 2024, 10:38:25 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a diploma does not mean instant success, if you ask me there is a great deal of people that go to college that do not really have the capabilities to be there, however since college education has become like any other business and profits are the most important thing, then those behind it are interested on pushing it to as many people as possible, and if this means giving watered-down education and offering dubious majors then that is exactly what they will do, even if this mean that their students will get a lot of debt and get no marketable skills either.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: angrybirdy on February 24, 2024, 11:15:49 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a diploma does not mean instant success, if you ask me there is a great deal of people that go to college that do not really have the capabilities to be there, however since college education has become like any other business and profits are the most important thing, then those behind it are interested on pushing it to as many people as possible, and if this means giving watered-down education and offering dubious majors then that is exactly what they will do, even if this mean that their students will get a lot of debt and get no marketable skills either.


This is all true, here in our country it seems normal to get a college school, there are universities that are free and students are made scholars so that they can study, but there are also many private schools that offer courses at a huge amount of tuition per semester. Sometimes, the quality of teaching in expensive universities is not that good, so once a student graduates, when they get a job, they only have a few experiences and capabilities that they can give to a company, that's what happens here in our country, even if you come from a rich school, when it comes to getting a job, the students who come from the public are just equal to you in job offers, sometimes they are the better ones if you look for many things.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: STT on February 24, 2024, 11:28:17 PM
If we are being literal then gaining the degree will make you poor as the cost of education is greater then putting the equivalent amount of hours into any other job.  The education doesnt make you rich by itself, you are better off with knowledge and some skills but only application of that knowledge can bring a profit over a life time perhaps and theres no guarantee it was ever worth it.  

This is true on a wider view also, the inventors of technology often are not the greatest beneficiaries of even their own work.  Its possible it may take an entire life time to discover and perfect an invention or discovery in science.   To apply that knowledge to industry is where the vast profits can occur, society values the product more then the idea unfortunately though we do try to protect those who invent its still a general truth in business you make the most in the retail and production supply of a great product.  There are alot of difficulties in actual supply and costs to make any product available to society, we actually all benefit from great gifts from people across the ages some of which never lived to see this positive themselves.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: stadus on February 24, 2024, 11:52:32 PM
It is not so much that you become the owner of wealth only after becoming educated.  It is right to study hard but it is wrong to think that you will get a job just by studying.  Even after getting a degree, one has to work hard to succeed.  There is no end to hard work in human life, you have to work forever.  Along with studies, you have to make yourself proficient in any job.  Without skill you cannot survive in this modern world. You have to earn degree by hard work and wealth by skill.
Getting good education and become a graduate turns an honor that will make you more exposed to different opportunities in life. With that, your real battle in life is still starting. Being a graduate won’t make you instant wealthy, those are only applied to those who are considered heirs from a wealthy family. But if you are raised with an average family, you have to work hard and makes a lot of sacrifices in order to succeed in life. Poor graduates stay poor for the rest of their lives if they will not make some positive changes in their lives. The way they manage their life in a wrong way and not risking at some point will make them poorer in the future.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: nara1892 on February 25, 2024, 12:21:57 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a diploma does not mean instant success, if you ask me there is a great deal of people that go to college that do not really have the capabilities to be there, however since college education has become like any other business and profits are the most important thing, then those behind it are interested on pushing it to as many people as possible, and if this means giving watered-down education and offering dubious majors then that is exactly what they will do, even if this mean that their students will get a lot of debt and get no marketable skills either.

Yes that's right, simply put a diploma is not the key to success and also "a diploma is just a sign that someone has been to school and not a sign that someone has thought", because as we know that there are many graduates who end up unemployed or unemployed, not because there are no job vacancies but certainly they do not have the skills that are the requirements of most companies, and this causes delays. On the other hand for the problem of success actually anyone can be successful and maybe you have also not rarely heard or seen people who are now successful but have a less good background such as those who only graduated from elementary school.

But on the other hand someone who has a higher education if indeed during their college they really mean it in terms of learning and absorbing a lot of knowledge then they will be slightly superior in terms of knowledge and insight compared to some other people who do not go to school, and this will be able to facilitate their path to success, but on the other hand if basically those who are educated do not have any skills and are lazy then obviously what happens is only a delay because after all success requires unusual hard work.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hispo on February 25, 2024, 12:29:58 AM
Meh. I believe it is rather a stereotype those who get graduated are guaranteed to have a successful and very rich live, it does not completely depends on education. I can think of at least a handful of people who are dropouts from important colleges and yet, they managed to build literal technology empires which are present to this day. For example, the creator of games and owner of Steam, Gabe Newell dropped out school to start his videogame company called "Valve", they created the first Half Life and then, the videogame platform Steam, he rapidly became rich. If I recall correctly, Bill Gates is also a university Dropout, he decided not to continue with his education and founded Microsoft. In the case of Bill Jobs, I am not even sure he has any kind of high education, as he started the building of Apple as a company from the garage of his parents, in California.

Anyways, a college degree can indeed help to develop a successful career, but sometimes one also needs to have the correct mindset and the inventive to start one's own business. I guess


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: mamesso on February 25, 2024, 02:26:49 AM
Education is a very important thing in life because it provides many benefits and helps shape a person's personality, attitudes and thinking abilities. Yes, education does not guarantee 100% of becoming rich, but through education you have made the best investment for the future. People who graduate from universities and those who drop out of school have different ideas in terms of aspects. Most university graduates consider themselves to have above average qualities, they will choose jobs that are considered worthy and appropriate to their field.

While people who drop out of school do not have a diploma and find it difficult to get a decent job, they will try to build their own business because they do not have much consideration in taking steps in their life. People who do not have a diploma achieve a level of success in life because their will is very strong and based on courage in taking the opportunities that are in front of them.
In the end, the life cycle is very different when people who drop out of school become bosses, they can employ university graduates to earn money for them, because graduates are formed in a mindset to look for jobs, not create jobs.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: shinratensei_ on February 25, 2024, 02:48:01 AM
Meh. I believe it is rather a stereotype those who get graduated are guaranteed to have a successful and very rich live, it does not completely depends on education. I can think of at least a handful of people who are dropouts from important colleges and yet, they managed to build literal technology empires which are present to this day. For example, the creator of games and owner of Steam, Gabe Newell dropped out school to start his videogame company called "Valve", they created the first Half Life and then, the videogame platform Steam, he rapidly became rich. If I recall correctly, Bill Gates is also a university Dropout, he decided not to continue with his education and founded Microsoft. In the case of Bill Jobs, I am not even sure he has any kind of high education, as he started the building of Apple as a company from the garage of his parents, in California.

Anyways, a college degree can indeed help to develop a successful career, but sometimes one also needs to have the correct mindset and the inventive to start one's own business. I guess
we must also remember that those drops out that becomes billionaire like they mentioned are no ordinary drop outs mark if i remember dropping out because he sees potential in his facebook platform when he was still in university and those you mentioned also are dropping out of ivy league, what important from unversity aside from the fact that we might get good degree to work out after graduation is probably the connection, even though it was never stated anywhere but in my opinion im sure the connection they have with their colleague that usually also coming from important background definitely have a big role in their success.
I would never undermine how important to get a degree nowadays, it could literally be the last straw when everything else is not working out.
i'd spend my 3-4 years for getting that degree in a heartbeat just in case if i were to try relive my life again if im being honest.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sebas.tian on February 25, 2024, 04:42:54 AM
Being a graduate doesn't guarantee you wealthy, because you need to leave that your comfort zone to search for a good jobs and in the process of searching a job, you maybe luck to see some company that is looking for fresh graduate to employ and you can get the job. I believe in education, and I must give my children a sound education that will make their future more brighter because I have seen many graduates these days who only focus on certificate in school without trying to add a skills to learn entrepreneurship in case you are not getting a job towards your area of field, you can use your entrepreneur skills to create something that will add value to your life. As a graduate you need to work hard before you can become a wealthy man because there are many graduates who are not wealthy till today because they didn't apply sense to their certificate.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: GideonGono on February 25, 2024, 04:47:11 AM
It is not enough to have diploma or degree to survive or be wealthy, what's the use of your degree or diploma if you couldn't even land a job on your chosen profession?
There are other's who are working on different field because of the lack of job opportunity or in order to earn more or survive, sometimes you even need to manage your funds even if you are earning good amount from your job.
Cause no matter how much you earn if you don't know how to manage your money or you are spending more than you are earning then you would always be short or needs to borrow in order to survive.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: God bless u on February 25, 2024, 05:59:33 AM
We need to understand one thing that graduate degree doesn't automatically qualifies you for job and it's actually skills which makes one qualify for the job and I wouldn't like to share the examples Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg as even though they couldn't complete the education still they being successful but if you look at job post shared by these people for their organisation you will find they prefer graduates and
Good point!
It's not about having a degree or a certain academic achievement, it's about having the necessary skillset in a certain field to make things work for you. A lot of people gain high academic achievements, they do masters and P.hDs and everything possible, but they barely get to a position in life where they can be called wealthy, they might earn a living, and have an above-average life, but they can't consider them wealthy because they might be knowledgeable, but they never did anything extra-ordinary.
Creating wealth is not easy, you can't do things like others and expect to earn more money than them, if it was that simple, the ones who were already doing that thing would have been rich already. It's about uniqueness.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Majestic-milf on February 25, 2024, 06:46:10 AM
 You've got your answer right there in the beginning of your paragraph and in your title. It's not everyone that goes through the four walls of the university that has the license to make wealth. For me being rich is as a rest of how much work and determination you put in to get your desired goal. There are individuals who don't believe in school but still come out and become something in life; what helped them? Skills and being conscious of the fact that it's up to them to chart a path for themselves.
 In my country, we have so many brilliant graduates who don't have good jobs to start with, not to talk of being rich and these are forced to take on menial tasks just to make ends meet. There are those who failed to arm themselves with a skill or two hoping on the government to give them preferential treatment the moment they leave school but alas they are given a rude awakening or are met with the harsh realities of life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: blckhawk on February 25, 2024, 07:04:31 AM
Whoever said that to you needs to evaluate their life choices because that's not how real world exists, being a college graduate doesn't guarantee you any money, how? Let's start with what degree we're talking about, there are college degrees that will help you get high paying jobs like an Engineering, Computer Science, Psychology and then there are that would not guarantee that you'll land a high paying job but will definitely be the one that you'll love like an Art Degree, it would be a rough life for you after graduation but if you pursue the arts and become famous through luck and hard work then you're guaranteed wealth so basically, degrees are split into you hate the job but will pay you good kind of degree and you love the job but the pay is bad kind of degree. The reason why I think that there's a lot of poor graduates is the lack of the opportunity I think, there's a lot of people out in the world and there's limited jobs out there, there's no way that we can put everyone out there for the same job and same pay right, another reason is the government not giving what's rightfully to the people and that is a higher pay and a guaranteed salary increase in an annual manner, I think that if these graduates can have that at the least they're not just surviving from their cheques and instead they still got the money to start living.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: beerlover on February 25, 2024, 04:26:06 PM
Whoever said that to you needs to evaluate their life choices because that's not how real world exists, being a college graduate doesn't guarantee you any money, how? Let's start with what degree we're talking about, there are college degrees that will help you get high paying jobs like an Engineering, Computer Science, Psychology and then there are that would not guarantee that you'll land a high paying job but will definitely be the one that you'll love like an Art Degree, it would be a rough life for you after graduation but if you pursue the arts and become famous through luck and hard work then you're guaranteed wealth so basically, degrees are split into you hate the job but will pay you good kind of degree and you love the job but the pay is bad kind of degree. The reason why I think that there's a lot of poor graduates is the lack of the opportunity I think, there's a lot of people out in the world and there's limited jobs out there, there's no way that we can put everyone out there for the same job and same pay right, another reason is the government not giving what's rightfully to the people and that is a higher pay and a guaranteed salary increase in an annual manner, I think that if these graduates can have that at the least they're not just surviving from their cheques and instead they still got the money to start living.
Everyone basically said the same thing, that's the common sense. I mean if the whole topic says that college degree doesn't guarantee any wealth, that means the question OP asked was a wrong question and not the right one. When you think about that, it becomes a lot easier to handle for everyone.

This is why we should not really care about the rest of the discussion, we all just talk about how the question is wrong and not really try to give any answers at all. We should definitely consider the fact that wealth is not related to how smart or how talented you are at all times, sometimes it's about how brave you are. Some amazing scientist could be much smarter and talented than some random business guy, but business people have more risk taking courage.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Casdinyard on February 26, 2024, 10:46:51 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
It's a dog eat dog world out there, you can't expect to find your place as soon as you leave your nest.

The biggest misconception about studying is that after you graduate, you're good to go and success is not a matter of "How" anymore but a matter of "When". The reality is that success is just as hard as it is to achieve before you get your degree, the only difference is now, you have something to show for when people ask you if you've specialized in something, which makes the journey a little bit easier for some. For others, it may not mean scat especially if you graduated on a degree that wouldn't really help you excel in this capitalistic society of hours. I mean, as a company you couldn't expect the Arts Degree Graduate or Philosophy degree graduate to really excel with Data Analytics or Ads Management. That is not their forte and that is not what they could bring to the table. You're better off finding someone whose skills align with the job profile you put out.

That's why while I still commit to suggesting that you pick whichever degree you like in college, you also have to be very prepared to face the world after you graduate, and in that regard be prepared to broaden your skillset to make sure you become even more valuable to acquire for companies. Then, soon as things fall into place for you financially, push for whatever career you're really after. That's the cheat code to today's socio-economic setting. If you remain indignant that it's not your fault your arts degree's not putting food at the table nobody's gonna listen to you.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Abiky on February 26, 2024, 11:17:22 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Graduating from college is NOT a guarantee you will become wealthy in the future. It takes time and good discipline to be able to obtain true financial independence. Some people never went to college but became rich because of good money management practices. If you spend more than what you earn, you'll stay poor forever. Battling inflation is the key to building wealth. You can achieve that by buying and holding BTC, Gold, and other commodities whose supply is limited.

What a college degree does is demonstrate an employer (or society) that you have knowledge of a particular subject. But how you use that knowledge to make money is up to you. It's all about strategy. Basically, what you've stated in the last paragraph sums it all. Hope this helps. :)


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: GigaBit on February 26, 2024, 11:58:47 AM
It is no longer advice to wake up early, study hard, get high grades, graduate from university and you will find a suitable job that is sufficient to pay your expenses. It is advice that you can teach your children, as life has changed. We are no longer in the 1950s, where a university degree was something that guaranteed you a good life. Today’s students are studying. Master's and doctorate degrees to obtain jobs due to high competition. Either you have a specialized degree in a rare field or you have a higher degree such as a doctorate in traditional fields to be able to compete.
Earning money through academic education is a long road and requires a lot of effort and money, but it remains the easiest way if you continue to continue your studies.
Education is important in changing people's lives but the learner must not be limited to books only. Of course, he should also receive practical education. I don't know what the country will get by those who only look for good jobs but if a student gets practical education along with his academic education he can change his life quickly. The student must remember that the education he is receiving should be useful for the welfare of mankind. I am skeptical about the education of graduates who do not get jobs after completing their studies. They may have received an education that is worthless. Although in some poor countries a large part of the educated population leads an unemployed life, if they receive technical education along with academic education, they will surely be able to change their position.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: 0t3p0t on February 26, 2024, 12:23:08 PM
If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Having a degree doesn't guarantee people becoming wealthy because it still has factors why they did not make use of their masters degree they don't generate income with it. One reason is that they already have the wealth or this financial freedom, second, lack of self confidence, third, the degree a person achieved is not a personal choice or could be other member of the family's choice that is why they lose interest, fourth, they prefer to work abroad not related to the degree so on and so forth. The only thing we really need especially nowadays is special skills, being smart and motivation. Having professional and vocational skills is no doubt a secret key to being wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: harapan on February 27, 2024, 12:28:40 AM
Education is key,but its not the pathway to achieve succes.There're so many ways to achieve success,success in general means different thing to different people, and having good grades does not contribute to your success at all and that's a misconception that you'll should never believe.
 Having good grades is just a feeling that someone should have/know,and there are many factors that can determine ones Success in life ranging from dedication,self discipline,intelligence,perseverance and determination e.t.c.So many successful people in life we're not able to finish college,but they became successful afterwards and that's because there's a difference between an intelligent person and an intellectual being,and the difference is visibly clear,its about the creativity and uniqueness that someone possess.
 Academic performance cannot be measured in the real world pertaining to success or achievement and let's all be realistic about the situation.The important is let everybody strive hard in whatever that they do,work hard,and develop themselves in ways that can make them useful and productive to themselves.
The world needs problem solvers,and Its not the one with the degree;its the one with the knowledge and skills that comes first in life.Having the degree might seem and sound very huge but what your creativity,mindset,mentality and intellect carries,can be out of this world.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: dunfida on February 27, 2024, 02:08:24 AM
Education is key,but its not the pathway to achieve succes.There're so many ways to achieve success,success in general means different thing to different people, and having good grades does not contribute to your success at all and that's a misconception that you'll should never believe.
 Having good grades is just a feeling that someone should have/know,and there are many factors that can determine ones Success in life ranging from dedication,self discipline,intelligence,perseverance and determination e.t.c.So many successful people in life we're not able to finish college,but they became successful afterwards and that's because there's a difference between an intelligent person and an intellectual being,and the difference is visibly clear,its about the creativity and uniqueness that someone possess.
 Academic performance cannot be measured in the real world pertaining to success or achievement and let's all be realistic about the situation.The important is let everybody strive hard in whatever that they do,work hard,and develop themselves in ways that can make them useful and productive to themselves.
The world needs problem solvers,and Its not the one with the degree;its the one with the knowledge and skills that comes first in life.Having the degree might seem and sound very huge but what your creativity,mindset,mentality and intellect carries,can be out of this world.
Yes, there's no such thing about guarantee on this world when we do speak or talk about success because we do know that competition is really high. Jobs are limited or simply the opportunities isnt open
to anyone and the best of the best would be the ones will be chosen. This is why you would really be fighting something for that position. Somehow it doesnt mean that education cant make you rich then you wont
pursue on finishing you studies. It would really be always best and recommended that you should really be finishing your studies because this is the way that you could be able to get a job, then later on
if you do want to succeed in terms of financial then you could always opt to have some side income via having those business and investment.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Franctoshi on February 27, 2024, 02:15:49 AM
Some/the system of education is structured/set in such a way that once you graduate from the university, you go seeking for jobs, instead of supposed adding value, becoming independent and even an employer of workers and now what happens in situations where there are more jobseekers than employers, definitely many graduates will be left with no jobs and that's undoubtedly about things in many countries as of today, and because most of these graduates are not being taught entrepreneurship in school and how to sustain even without a job.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: retreat on February 27, 2024, 03:51:08 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy

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That's right, education will not make you rich, it's just one way to make you rich. Because rich people do not only go through education, but also look for opportunities, perseverance in trying, take advantage of their parents' inheritance, have networks and privileges, and the most important thing is luck.
Maybe for some people they don't really believe that rich people are lucky people, but I believe in that. Because of the many rich people around me, on average they come from poor families, but they can become rich because they find someone who helps them or get a job/business that even a graduate cannot achieve. It's a little absurd, but it's reality.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: reagansimms on February 27, 2024, 04:55:29 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy

-snip-

That's right, education will not make you rich, it's just one way to make you rich. Because rich people do not only go through education, but also look for opportunities, perseverance in trying, take advantage of their parents' inheritance, have networks and privileges, and the most important thing is luck.
Maybe for some people they don't really believe that rich people are lucky people, but I believe in that. Because of the many rich people around me, on average they come from poor families, but they can become rich because they find someone who helps them or get a job/business that even a graduate cannot achieve. It's a little absurd, but it's reality.
To get luck, you have to be smart in looking for and taking advantage of opportunities. Wealth can be achieved through creativity in creating new innovations in all businesses, even though someone who is highly educated has various knowledge and theories obtained during their education, if they are not able to look for opportunities it is very difficult to become rich.
Poor people or those who are not educated only take advantage of the opportunities around them to get a job, they will study it and use the knowledge gained in that job to open their own business. While highly educated people are more focused on finding work, this difference in mindset means that uneducated people can achieve success with their beliefs and always take advantage of opportunities.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hewlet on February 27, 2024, 05:56:49 AM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
schooling is just part of the stages of life that helps you navigate through your adulthood  effectively. The knowledge you get in the higher institution is first off to help you perfect and practice in a chosen carrier or and to help shape Thier views about things that will at the end of the day make them prepare Thier minds to facing the reality of life.

It's not a sure ticket to financial fredom and doing well at school doesn't directly translet to being wealthy but the advantage is that if you did well in school and you bring that same level of committent to the circular society, it's going to be defficult to still remain poor. Coming out with first class is not a small feet that anyone can just accomplish by mere wishfull thinking. Its a product of dedication and dewcipline to your academics whish are basically the needed ingredient that will carry you through life easily.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on February 27, 2024, 12:09:57 PM
I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: demonica on February 27, 2024, 12:38:51 PM
Of course education is one thing. That's the basic requirements most jobs are looking. If you're a graduate, it'll increase your qualifications for their requirements. But obviously, it isn't just the only requirements when seeking for a job. Because comparing to non graduates, they have more opportunities. But there are hundreds of people looking for the same position as yours so that's the hard part. Even if you get the job, that doesn't guarantee you a successful life in the future. It'll still depends on your fate, the opportunities that will come to you, and how you deal with it.

There are academically achievers but lacks knowledge and skills when it comes to applying things in real life.  That's why for others, even if they are good at studying, those who are bad at studying can still surpass them with achievements in life...


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: icalical on February 27, 2024, 01:01:07 PM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on February 27, 2024, 01:36:14 PM
I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
Going to school or having a higher education does not guarantee success, but their percentage of being able to get a job is much greater, but this cannot be the same for everyone, everyone has different opportunities and different times.
So whether success or not doesn't depend on anything, it all comes down to each person's chance and luck.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Luizwalter Crypt on February 27, 2024, 01:46:56 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

First of all we should ponder what it really means being educated on anything. Education to me should be more of skill acquisition and not for the sole aim of boasting with the degree or certificate. Being educated on something you can't really defend and you don't practice it to grow in it is totally waste of time and resources.

Most atimes our visions are being disturbed by the people around us sometimes our parents by bending us to directions we aren't really ok with.In the course of your basic education you should be able to spot out that which you love doing it and you can do better and follow that part till you become the best in it.

So in all I say education is the knowledge you need to grow your mind but what's important is how you put this knowledge gained to work. Creativity is needed to stand out from the crowd.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Miles2006 on February 27, 2024, 03:25:27 PM
I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
Going to school or having a higher education does not guarantee success, but their percentage of being able to get a job is much greater, but this cannot be the same for everyone, everyone has different opportunities and different times.
So whether success or not doesn't depend on anything, it all comes down to each person's chance and luck.
To some extend I think it has to do with luck but not just with luck and chance like the way most people have a created chance to work without struggling but majority of population will have to make through and struggle for the chance. When we talk about opportunity we should also consider the skill and a lot of graduates don't have the skill to acquire such opportunity. The society is just built with connection and hard work even as a graduate now you don't have a guarantee of getting a job so quick, sometimes people should learn to build and have determination and if possible you can create something better rather than seeking for a job. As a graduate, if you're 100% good and lacking a job don't ever have the impression of education as not valued in the society.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on February 27, 2024, 06:18:19 PM
I'd say is not everyone who's suppose to be successful in life, you can go to school and end up being unsuccessful but those who never had the opportunity to go to school can be successful in what ever they put their hands. In some parts of the world, you see a graduate struggling to get something that suits what he or she studied in school and they won't get it but those non-graduates are the ones occupying those higher positions.
Life is never the way we picture it, you can see a graduate that has a better business but there's no progress in it while someone who hasn't been to school is progressing in that same business, to me I'd say is just grace or should I say luck, you're a graduate doesn't mean anything you do would make you successful, not all graduate are suppose to make it in life which means school is not for everyone.
Going to school or having a higher education does not guarantee success, but their percentage of being able to get a job is much greater, but this cannot be the same for everyone, everyone has different opportunities and different times.
So whether success or not doesn't depend on anything, it all comes down to each person's chance and luck.

That's where some people seem to get it wrong, they think by having that opportunity of being a graduate that everything will be better in future. I agree with you that everyone doesn't have the same opportunity and it all depends on luck honestly speaking, people always let it get into the their head that after school the next thing is getting a job in a bigger firm and some don't have what it takes like they can't contribute to their place of work.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on February 27, 2024, 06:19:26 PM
Education play a good role in one's success but there are also large number of individuals who have well learned education and skills but they don't have any job yet because of limited jobs opportunities. A person should have both degrees and skills so he can use his active thoughts to do something better in life.

If you have skills and education then you can find a job at any stage during life but if you are not educated then you will spend whole life just to find a good job. With help of education you can find a good job in which your loyalty will increase but without education you will do only a business, or some other private job.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Wexnident on February 27, 2024, 08:51:38 PM
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It's a key but it's not necessarily a guarantee. Said key can be a broken-up into multiple pieces and education only plays a part of it. The real world isn't as simple as a 1 + 1 equation after all where, human relationships, capabilities outside of intelligence, and stuff like that are a factor, not to mention all the competition. You can liken school to a small part of the world (which it is) and there having multiple of them across the globe means having multiple 1st class graduates, so yea, competition is inevitable whether inside or outside.

That's where some people seem to get it wrong, they think by having that opportunity of being a graduate that everything will be better in future. I agree with you that everyone doesn't have the same opportunity and it all depends on luck honestly speaking, people always let it get into the their head that after school the next thing is getting a job in a bigger firm and some don't have what it takes like they can't contribute to their place of work.
It wouldn't be instantly better that's for sure, but it's a lot better than being some random bum out there who doesn't know jack. At least, said education can open up a few opportunities for you, especially with the lot of short courses that most people can get nowadays.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fortify on February 27, 2024, 08:57:09 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

Education has been on a creeping path to increasing commercialization for a long time. Just like medical services in America try to squeeze every last cent out of people for a basic human right where the burden could be shared much more easily by government invention, higher education is also being targeted. It's why text books can cost hundreds of dollars, requiring the "latest version" each semester even if very little has changed. Any excuse will be found to tack an extra fee on here or there, even if it is gradually undermining the youth of today. It also means that schools and universities will create new, potentially worthless degrees in fields that will tempt in students on the idea that they are easy but create so much competition in one field it can make the outcome worthless.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: uneng on February 27, 2024, 09:33:07 PM
From my observations, what I can say about this matter is that not everyone at universities are engaged on educating themselves as the should, neither display the kind of professional posture you would expect from graduated individual. Despite these factors, people still manage to finish the university successfuly. That is, they manage to get a degree, although on the next level the real challenge begins, since the jobs market filter the good from the bad professionals.

Then I believe that is where many people fall behind, because even though they have a degree, they lack skills to be accepted on different jobs spots, especially the most demanding ones. To sely have a degree nowadays doesn't mean too much. You need something else, like social skills, vast knowledge on the field you are applying to work, a sharp appearance and formal posture, besides talking correctly, without the usage of slangs.

Maybe the luck factor also play a role after all, but I guess you can raise your chances of being successful by following the hints above.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on February 28, 2024, 05:46:07 AM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
definitely this, being a graduate is like the minimum requirements these days simply because there are many people that gained this degree and to have opportunity truly depends on ourselves.
I think the fact that there are people out there that could succeed starting out a business without graduating or with dropping themselves out is definitely admirable but we shouldn't swipe under the rug the fact that
there aren't many of them, the odd of us being one of them is slim, but there's definitely a chance.
but then again some people are just having that good of a connection and access to wealth that whether they get or not getting a degree doesn't matter that much.
i've seen plenty of people with such background, it depends on our own varying condition if we think we might need that advantage of getting into career that only graduates can enter
then I guess its worth to try. otherwise there are plenty ways to success but know that most of them gonna be tough and difficult way to take through.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: justdimin on February 28, 2024, 07:40:41 AM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
Education is very very important, but being educated and being graduate are not the same thing. If you studied and know what you are doing then you will definitely be good, that is how it happens and we should consider that as the most important part.

However, it is also important to remember that most people get a job with a diploma, unless it is totally unwanted one you will find a job even if it is not in your field because like that tv show once said you go to school not to learn it all, some people do, but you go there to show your potential employer that you have gone somewhere for 4 years, did tasks semi-ok enough to graduate and can be trusted. So that works for any business that doesn't require a diploma, but prefers one.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Xcode7 on February 28, 2024, 08:38:21 AM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
Education is very very important, but being educated and being graduate are not the same thing. If you studied and know what you are doing then you will definitely be good, that is how it happens and we should consider that as the most important part.

However, it is also important to remember that most people get a job with a diploma, unless it is totally unwanted one you will find a job even if it is not in your field because like that tv show once said you go to school not to learn it all, some people do, but you go there to show your potential employer that you have gone somewhere for 4 years, did tasks semi-ok enough to graduate and can be trusted. So that works for any business that doesn't require a diploma, but prefers one.
A diploma is legality or proof that we have studied or as proof that we already have knowledge.
It cannot be denied that in some countries, legality is quite necessary to get a job.
To compare people to be rich or poor based on the diploma or education they have completed is not fair, but what needs to be understood is that the percentage of people who get a job is much greater if they have a diploma.
I think that is enough to prove that education/diploma is important.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: sekalitas on February 28, 2024, 08:46:48 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

In my experience, there often exists a gap between the skills companies seek and those possessed by recent graduates. This can contribute to higher unemployment rates, especially in countries with a high graduate supply and fierce competition. Fresh graduates who lack relevant internship experience or job-specific skills can face significant challenges in finding employment.

This validates your earlier point: strong academic performance alone no longer guarantees success in the job market. The ability to identify and seize opportunities, regardless of educational background, is increasingly crucial for achieving career goals and financial stability.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Z390 on February 28, 2024, 10:01:23 AM
Schooling is essential but knowledge is like no other, skills will always lead in everything, with skills you will triumph where others are failing,  it's so good to be educated, but making money is a different thing entirely,  having their degrees doesn't make you a millionaire automatically, you need to do something.

Bill gates and other billionaires are dropouts, they bring something new to the table, that's why you at the time of schooling it's better to be building something for yourself too, something that you have some much passion for, something the world could embrace.

Those who are making it big today are all builders, Elon musk, Mark, Bill and so on, they build something new and proceed from there, working under a company could do you good but there is nothing better than creativity on your own, build something new and hope that the world accepts it, then you are going to be on every billboards in the world.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Mahanton on February 28, 2024, 10:24:40 AM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
Education is very very important, but being educated and being graduate are not the same thing. If you studied and know what you are doing then you will definitely be good, that is how it happens and we should consider that as the most important part.

However, it is also important to remember that most people get a job with a diploma, unless it is totally unwanted one you will find a job even if it is not in your field because like that tv show once said you go to school not to learn it all, some people do, but you go there to show your potential employer that you have gone somewhere for 4 years, did tasks semi-ok enough to graduate and can be trusted. So that works for any business that doesn't require a diploma, but prefers one.
A diploma is legality or proof that we have studied or as proof that we already have knowledge.
It cannot be denied that in some countries, legality is quite necessary to get a job.
To compare people to be rich or poor based on the diploma or education they have completed is not fair, but what needs to be understood is that the percentage of people who get a job is much greater if they have a diploma.
I think that is enough to prove that education/diploma is important.
It would really be your weapon on making yourself having at least the advantage compared to those who doesnt have the diploma if we do speak on getting those day job that everyone is really that diving into.
We do know that once we do make ourselves graduate then our first priority would really be getting a job and would be buying on the things that we are wishing for. Some might be having those early realizations that they
should really be getting a job and save up for the future. Some could be able to do so and some arent been able to secure out because they arent minding about the future and just making those acts on the time
that they are suffering on some problems.

Having a degree and diploma doesnt guarantee success, it would always be that depending on how well you do make yourself that handle on such condition on which
there are ones who do be able to build their financial status on the moment they have realized that investment and business would be the key
and there are some who cant think off such thing.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: wiss19 on February 28, 2024, 01:52:25 PM
We need to understand one thing that graduate degree doesn't automatically qualifies you for job and it's actually skills which makes one qualify for the job and I wouldn't like to share the examples Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg as even though they couldn't complete the education still they being successful but if you look at job post shared by these people for their organisation you will find they prefer graduates and
I think it depends on our school and the course that we get, as I also heard that some students can get a job immediately right after they graduate. This sounds great but unfortunately not all course are supported and maybe the school is not that good enough or their standards are too high. Anyway, the rest works like this > you need to apply for a job first, ensuring that you are qualified for their requirements and then you need to take an exam.

The higher the position the harder the exams will be and most of it can based on our knowledge. So, don't say that skills are only needed. It is, if we are talking something like a business because it's self-service.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: mindrust on February 28, 2024, 03:25:00 PM
Having a college degree doesn't guarantee you anything. Many people get rich not because they graduated, it is because they are smarter than the others. If you are smart, you will quickly notice that they don't teach us anything about finance during our education. It is you who should show an effort to learn finance. Without knowing finance, you can't start a successful business and starting a good business is pretty much the best way to get rich. Smart business owners know how to evade their taxes legally, they know when to invest and when the liquidate assets. You can't learn any of these from the public education system. Not every student who studied finance is rich too and it is because even if you study finance at the college, they still don't teach you the critical information. They just want you to be smart enough to understand orders and dumb enough to stay an employee.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: hyudien on February 28, 2024, 05:13:51 PM
Having a college degree doesn't guarantee you anything. Many people get rich not because they graduated, it is because they are smarter than the others. If you are smart, you will quickly notice that they don't teach us anything about finance during our education. It is you who should show an effort to learn finance. Without knowing finance, you can't start a successful business and starting a good business is pretty much the best way to get rich. Smart business owners know how to evade their taxes legally, they know when to invest and when the liquidate assets. You can't learn any of these from the public education system. Not every student who studied finance is rich too and it is because even if you study finance at the college, they still don't teach you the critical information. They just want you to be smart enough to understand orders and dumb enough to stay an employee.

I agree with you, indeed having a bachelor's degree cannot guarantee that we can get a decent job with a large amount of income because in my opinion smart companies are those that prioritize skills not background names or degrees. The same thing with having a diploma, in my opinion it is only a sign that we have studied, the rest after graduating from education we just start a real life, there are some who can indeed work because they have a degree or last name obtained from college, but according to having a job by relying on a degree it is the same if we do not have skills. If I have my own job opportunities, I will recruit people with skills, not degrees. Sometimes people with degrees even have a bad point of view from other people, honestly in my opinion school does not fully teach us how to make money, but teaches the material so that we can be smart, in my environment there are many high schools that guarantee after graduation will get a decent job, but the reality is good, for example from one school there are 100 students and those who work directly after graduation are not all just a small part, if based on intelligence it may be true that everyone will not be smart in the same field, but the certainty that the school provides sometimes becomes a community conflict when their children have graduated from school.

It's true what you said, the main problem in most people is finance, while school does not fully teach about finance, to be able to become rich it depends on ourselves, not depending on the degree we have. In my opinion, having a degree is only our additional surname which indicates that we have studied in college and seems to make us authoritative. But it doesn't guarantee to make us rich, of course to achieve wealth or financial freedom it depends on our hard work, if we don't work hard then it will be difficult to achieve wealth or financial freedom. I agree with you about being stupid enough to remain an employee.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sarah_Jannat42 on February 28, 2024, 05:21:50 PM
Graduating is not the key to getting rich from my point of view. You will observe around you that there are many rich people who may have not passed the stage of primary education. Again in society, it is also seen that the person who gets the first rank in graduation could not become rich or successful in life, on the other hand, the person who is last in graduation succeeds and becomes very rich. But why is it that you are a graduate or first in graduation, you have a lot of knowledge and yet you are not rich. It stands to reason that to be rich you have to be skilled. That is, whatever path you take to get rich, you must have some basic skills in that path, otherwise it is not possible to get rich. So it is not understood that a high degree is not enough to be rich what can make you rich is skill.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: dunfida on February 28, 2024, 07:23:13 PM
Graduating is not the key to getting rich from my point of view. You will observe around you that there are many rich people who may have not passed the stage of primary education. Again in society, it is also seen that the person who gets the first rank in graduation could not become rich or successful in life, on the other hand, the person who is last in graduation succeeds and becomes very rich. But why is it that you are a graduate or first in graduation, you have a lot of knowledge and yet you are not rich. It stands to reason that to be rich you have to be skilled. That is, whatever path you take to get rich, you must have some basic skills in that path, otherwise it is not possible to get rich. So it is not understood that a high degree is not enough to be rich what can make you rich is skill.
Graduating or finishing up your studies is really just that the first step for you to make your move to be a successful person on which we do know that getting a day job nowadays is never been simple.
Competition is high in with those other graduates as well, you arent the only ones who do look for a job on which if we do consider on how many people been graduating in every year plus having those limited slots
when it comes to job vacancies then you would really be able to expect that there would really be overflowing of those people who do find or look for a job. So the competition is really that high
and it would really be that survival of the fittest for you to be chosen or would really be hired.

So it is really that a wrong to have that kind of mindset that finishing up studies would be the end line and you wont really be doing something more.
You are wrong. Sooner or later you would really be able to realize those things along the way and tell to yourself that you should really be making such action for you to be better.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: icalical on February 28, 2024, 08:07:58 PM
Being a graduate is definitely the key, but it doesn't automatically make you wealthy. That key is more like a ticket, so you can open a door, and then you can join a certain competition that a non-graduate people can not join. The result of that competition whether you are winning or not will be determined by other factors, like your skills, ability, smartness, toughness, your effort, etc. Sure there is another key and door to join the competition, but it's so hidden and uncertain. Education, or being a graduate is the most certain way to get the key to join the competition of life.
Education is very very important, but being educated and being graduate are not the same thing. If you studied and know what you are doing then you will definitely be good, that is how it happens and we should consider that as the most important part.

However, it is also important to remember that most people get a job with a diploma, unless it is totally unwanted one you will find a job even if it is not in your field because like that tv show once said you go to school not to learn it all, some people do, but you go there to show your potential employer that you have gone somewhere for 4 years, did tasks semi-ok enough to graduate and can be trusted. So that works for any business that doesn't require a diploma, but prefers one.
A diploma is legality or proof that we have studied or as proof that we already have knowledge.
It cannot be denied that in some countries, legality is quite necessary to get a job.
To compare people to be rich or poor based on the diploma or education they have completed is not fair, but what needs to be understood is that the percentage of people who get a job is much greater if they have a diploma.
I think that is enough to prove that education/diploma is important.

So true, and I live in one of those country that still needs a diploma to get a job. I partly regret my decision to take English major and now all I get is quite useless English literature diploma, I took several courses of digital design and I have been working as graphic designer for years now, I have a lot of portfolios but still I cannot get a full-time job here, (I could but I will be paid a lot less that people who have related degree) . I only work as a freelancer and most of my freelance employer is from other countries, so yes having a diploma is still important part of getting a job in here and some other countries, it allows us to join in a certain competition.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: snowpega on February 28, 2024, 08:35:33 PM
Because those graduated students have no skills that they can implement and earn money. I am also a graduate student and have done bachelor's science computer science and what I have learned so far is that until we don't have good skills we can not change our life or we will not see ourselves becoming rich. Learning skills are very important well I am not saying study is not important, but along with study focus on learning some skills that will help you to survive easily in real life. Through these skills you can make money.

If we see some rich people including Bill Gates who did also not get good grades in his studies but his interests made him the world's richest person he used to focus on his coding skills when his friends were playing around him but ignored all of them because he know he has to achieve his goals and today you can see him where he is how much he has earned from his skills. So focus on the skill more and less on study rather you can say study on your skills. That's my point.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Maslate on February 28, 2024, 08:56:34 PM
Having a college degree doesn't guarantee you anything. Many people get rich not because they graduated, it is because they are smarter than the others. If you are smart, you will quickly notice that they don't teach us anything about finance during our education. It is you who should show an effort to learn finance. Without knowing finance, you can't start a successful business and starting a good business is pretty much the best way to get rich. Smart business owners know how to evade their taxes legally, they know when to invest and when the liquidate assets. You can't learn any of these from the public education system. Not every student who studied finance is rich too and it is because even if you study finance at the college, they still don't teach you the critical information. They just want you to be smart enough to understand orders and dumb enough to stay an employee.
Having a college degree guarantees only that you will get a good job after schooling, but when it comes to managing your finances and becoming wealthy, that’s already within your potentials and of course skills in finances that makes you smarter and wiser in managing your business. However, even if you are not a graduate, these things can still be learned and developed if you have the eagerness to learn the process, but it will certainly take time and will definitely test your patience many times before you end up successful in your own business.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Cookdata on February 28, 2024, 09:22:46 PM
Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

There is different between education and school and what we all went to is school because it's only school that tell you to work hard to become someone in the future and yet not guaranteed.
Education can be from formal way or informal way. You are in this platform for sometimes now and you understand one or two things about bitcoin through this forum, that's how you get educated about something you are ignorant of and not necessarily you have to go to school, I hope you get my point right now. You can get educated in school from your teacher and you can also get educated at home from your parent or guidance and even your friends.

School is designed in a such a way that you read a discipline and then you are offer an opportunity to work in your field but this are 80s and 90s formality of the society. Now, the protocol has been change and you know why? That's because we have thousand and millions of graduates and specialists chasing after 5-10 jobs, we are having more and more qualified graduates of a particular descipline where the society can only provide for few people and this why we have so many poor graduates, going to school doesn't owe you a job though and that's why they advise everyone to get as skill that you can use for husle while waiting for a that big dream job.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Issa56 on February 28, 2024, 10:11:54 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy
Lots of graduates are here in my country, and they are not rich. Most of them are finding it difficult to feed themselves, and where some of them are getting it wrong is that they are relying on the government to give them jobs, but sometimes you have to establish yourself, you don’t have to wait for anyone to employ you. Education does not guarantee being rich, there are some people in rural areas with little education, and they are fucking rich. If you are educated but not smart or hardworking, you will still be poor. If you are educated, you will be able to utilise the opportunity you have.

Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs
I have once heard it that some companies don’t really like to employ first class graduates because they believe most of them are good in theoretical aspects and not in practical aspects. Most of them do assimilate easily when reading, but they have little knowledge about the practical aspects, and most companies want people who are really good in practical aspects. So graduating with a first class degree doesn’t guarantee a good paying job.
 
The advise I do give people in school is that, whenever you are in school, always learn a skill. If you graduate from school and you don’t have a good paying job, then you can just establish yourself, and gradually you will be able to grow.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Finestream on February 28, 2024, 10:58:28 PM
Because those graduated students have no skills that they can implement and earn money. I am also a graduate student and have done bachelor's science computer science and what I have learned so far is that until we don't have good skills we can not change our life or we will not see ourselves becoming rich. Learning skills are very important well I am not saying study is not important, but along with study focus on learning some skills that will help you to survive easily in real life. Through these skills you can make money.

If we see some rich people including Bill Gates who did also not get good grades in his studies but his interests made him the world's richest person he used to focus on his coding skills when his friends were playing around him but ignored all of them because he know he has to achieve his goals and today you can see him where he is how much he has earned from his skills. So focus on the skill more and less on study rather you can say study on your skills. That's my point.
Being educated is your first step towards reaching your goals in life. If you are not knowledgeable, you will never learn about skills and how to develop them as your potentials to succeed in life. So we should still make it a point to finish our studies first as highly as possible.

However, I also believe that in order to be wealthy, one should possess exceptional skills in life, not only one but multi skills so you can take advantage every opportunity that comes. If you have enhanced your own skills, you can make it as your source of income without being employed in a big company. Indulge in business and investments because those are the keys to accumulate wealth faster than being employed for life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: el kaka22 on February 29, 2024, 03:46:25 AM
Because being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy? Majority of the richest people in the world did not even finish college, and the ones who did usually did not finish anything major neither. Education teaches you how to be a great worker, not how to be a great business owner, it doesn't teach you how to lead, it teaches you how to follow. That is why education exists, to give you a guaranteed path, and if you follow it, you will find a good decent job and live a mediocre life.

If you do not study though, you could technically be like Mark Zuckerberg, or you could be the homeless guy around the corner as well, who knows. People study, to have a certain minimum, but it doesn't give you a key to wealth at all, that's not even the purpose of it.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: pusaka on February 29, 2024, 04:36:39 AM
Because being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy? Majority of the richest people in the world did not even finish college, and the ones who did usually did not finish anything major neither. Education teaches you how to be a great worker, not how to be a great business owner, it doesn't teach you how to lead, it teaches you how to follow. That is why education exists, to give you a guaranteed path, and if you follow it, you will find a good decent job and live a mediocre life.

If you do not study though, you could technically be like Mark Zuckerberg, or you could be the homeless guy around the corner as well, who knows. People study, to have a certain minimum, but it doesn't give you a key to wealth at all, that's not even the purpose of it.
I think many people have misinterpreted the true meaning of education. Education is not to make someone rich, but education is a process for someone to expand or deepen their knowledge. It may be possible to become rich by pursuing higher education, but it is one of the thousands of paths available and I think it depends on the person.
I see many people who pursue higher education just for the degree, while their knowledge does not increase at all because they prefer to be outside the classroom when there are subjects/courses. But can we condemn them to never be rich? I don't think so. There are also those who are very diligent, but will that guarantee they will be rich? Not really. Once again I would say it depends on how hard the person works and dares to take risks.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on February 29, 2024, 05:23:51 AM
Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.
Do we have to see education as a step to getting a job with a good salary? The meaning of education should not be as narrow as the thinking of people who want to get a decent job and a big salary. There are many best graduates with cum laude honors at universities who do not have decent jobs and they even receive salary offers according to the regional minimum effort. Meanwhile, people who did not continue their education at university have become successful businesspeople and I feel that is because they previously preferred continuing their education rather than building a business.

Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Becoming rich is everyone's desire, but not all of us are destined to be rich. Whether we are educated or not really depends on how we can develop our potential because working in the government sector will not make us richer. On the other hand, those who dare to get out of their comfort zone will build businesses or other jobs to make more money and they will enjoy success and not have to work harder when they have achieved everything.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Lanatsa on February 29, 2024, 12:41:40 PM
Because being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy? Majority of the richest people in the world did not even finish college, and the ones who did usually did not finish anything major neither. Education teaches you how to be a great worker, not how to be a great business owner, it doesn't teach you how to lead, it teaches you how to follow. That is why education exists, to give you a guaranteed path, and if you follow it, you will find a good decent job and live a mediocre life.

If you do not study though, you could technically be like Mark Zuckerberg, or you could be the homeless guy around the corner as well, who knows. People study, to have a certain minimum, but it doesn't give you a key to wealth at all, that's not even the purpose of it.
I think many people have misinterpreted the true meaning of education. Education is not to make someone rich, but education is a process for someone to expand or deepen their knowledge. It may be possible to become rich by pursuing higher education, but it is one of the thousands of paths available and I think it depends on the person.
I see many people who pursue higher education just for the degree, while their knowledge does not increase at all because they prefer to be outside the classroom when there are subjects/courses. But can we condemn them to never be rich? I don't think so. There are also those who are very diligent, but will that guarantee they will be rich? Not really. Once again I would say it depends on how hard the person works and dares to take risks.
Not literally rich in terms of money but it would be rich in terms of knowledge on which this is something that you would really be able to make use on your future endeavors. It is really just that wrong to have that kind of assumption that you would really be that getting rich already once you have finished studies. Just like on what said above that this is really just that the first step of your journey. Although it
wouldnt really be that easy but it doesnt mean that it would be impossible for someone to be able to achieve. It would really just that matter on how well you do make up those decisions and choices
in regarding on the things that you are dealing with, plus a little bit mix of luck on which this is something that relevant too.

This is why if you do have plans on making yourself that wealthy then it would be just that right that you would really be needing to take actions and be wise too.
If you do see that getting a job despite of a college graduate, then try other fields on which you could really be able to utilize your skills and knowledge.
Try and try until you succeed.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: slapper on February 29, 2024, 04:40:25 PM
Because being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy? Majority of the richest people in the world did not even finish college, and the ones who did usually did not finish anything major neither. Education teaches you how to be a great worker, not how to be a great business owner, it doesn't teach you how to lead, it teaches you how to follow. That is why education exists, to give you a guaranteed path, and if you follow it, you will find a good decent job and live a mediocre life.

If you do not study though, you could technically be like Mark Zuckerberg, or you could be the homeless guy around the corner as well, who knows. People study, to have a certain minimum, but it doesn't give you a key to wealth at all, that's not even the purpose of it.
Diplomas aren't on all millionaires' walls. To argue education merely creates followers, not leaders? Quite a narrow view. Education is about critical thinking, problem-solving, and learning to learn, not just memorizing facts. Leaders and innovators use these

Think about it: Wealth isn't just about starting a billion-dollar business. It's also about savvy investments, market comprehension, and financial planning, which schooling can teach. The idea that education leads to mediocrity is antiquated. It's not the only way to succeed, but ignoring it? This is aggressive and shortsighted


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: adiksau0414 on February 29, 2024, 04:51:13 PM
I think having a degree is just having one step ahead with someone who does not have. There are different factors to consider. And sometimes, people start from humble beginnings due to their hard work and perseverance has a higher chance to get the bountiful life ahead


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 29, 2024, 04:53:44 PM
How many of the actual graduates hold the knowledge of what they are graduated? They just learn something in a top college public colleges to get a job then just sit in their comfort until they retire but one who is rich now worked their Ass to get into this stage and only they know how much struggled to get here and importantly they found a solution to the existing problem in the society that can be monetized is the most efficient way to make quick money.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Cityhunter34 on February 29, 2024, 06:41:28 PM
Education is valuable, but it's not the sole determinant of wealth so being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth as wealth can be achieved through various path like, investment and entrepreneurship, If you are fortunate to secure a job after graduation then that's just luck and connection. I believe that being a graduate only shapes and molds you to present yourself positively and guides your path as most wealthy men in the world today like mark Zuckerberg were school dropouts, but the little education he had helped and molded his mindset to become whom he is today.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: letteredhub on February 29, 2024, 06:49:12 PM
Going to school and being a graduate doesn't guarantees you success it only equips you with the knowledge and skills to be able to strive to achieve success but yet doesn't guarantee you might end up achieving the success you strive for eventually. We all have seen many graduates that steived hard but still ended up average or poor. The only thing that school guarantees us is knowledge, knowledge to know your right and where it starts and end, which is why a highly literate society is usually a peaceful society to live in unlike a highly illiterate populated societies.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Juse14 on February 29, 2024, 07:14:27 PM
There are so many people out there who are fighting tooth and nail to get a degree and become graduates, there are even quite a few parents who are struggling to find money to send their children to college, in the hope of becoming graduates. And one day they will will graduate, the child can get his family out of the shackles of poverty. However, what the child is looking for is not knowledge, but rather a degree and a piece of paper which will later be used to fulfill the requirements for applying for a job. In reality, after graduating, being able to immediately get a decent job is just a daydream. because the diploma you get is only proof that you have attended school, but it doesn't mean you have studied and understood the knowledge. Meanwhile, what a company needs is not just a piece of paper, but also the abilities and skills that you have. And this is why many of them have graduated from college but never achieved success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: RockBell on February 29, 2024, 08:18:26 PM
Education is valuable, but it's not the sole determinant of wealth so being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth as wealth can be achieved through various path like, investment and entrepreneurship, If you are fortunate to secure a job after graduation then that's just luck and connection. I believe that being a graduate only shapes and molds you to present yourself positively and guides your path as most wealthy men in the world today like mark Zuckerberg were school dropouts, but the little education he had helped and molded his mindset to become whom he is today.
A lot of people still depend on education to be successful and if we still have that mindset then we have made serious mistakes still believing that education is the key, the world is now driven by so many things to be able to make, then people give so much belief to education but not anymore, is it that the number of people that are educated are too much because still wondering what is the reason that education is losing its value, and people have been encouraging over time to have a skill even when you go to school but people think that education is for broke people, and people with skill are the one getting jobs. because those that when to school are still finding it difficult to get a job.  and it should either be a skill or an investment plan for every youth these days it is difficult for you to just graduate and secure a job instantly. you want to survive after school you start making plans.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on February 29, 2024, 08:45:48 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy
Many graduates today struggle to support themselves because they can't find jobs, even though they graduated with good grades. In the past in my country, graduating from university used to guarantee job opportunities, but those days are gone. Now, the job market is more competitive, and many qualified graduates find themselves unable to secure employment. This shift has left many feeling disillusioned and frustrated as they navigate a challenging job search landscape that doesn't always reward academic achievement with career prospects.

Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs
In today's job market, some first-class graduates are encountering challenges in securing employment. However, I believe the difficulty in finding a job despite having good grades largely depends on the profession one chooses. Certain fields offer more job security and opportunities for those who excel academically. For instance, professions like nursing or medicine typically have high demand, and graduates with excellent grades in these fields may find it easier to secure employment compared to those in other disciplines. While job availability varies across industries and regions, studying courses with high demand and graduating with distinction can enhance one's prospects in the competitive job market, providing a pathway to success despite prevailing challenges.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Cityhunter34 on February 29, 2024, 08:45:52 PM
Education is valuable, but it's not the sole determinant of wealth so being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth as wealth can be achieved through various path like, investment and entrepreneurship, If you are fortunate to secure a job after graduation then that's just luck and connection. I believe that being a graduate only shapes and molds you to present yourself positively and guides your path as most wealthy men in the world today like mark Zuckerberg were school dropouts, but the little education he had helped and molded his mindset to become whom he is today.
A lot of people still depend on education to be successful and if we still have that mindset then we have made serious mistakes still believing that education is the key, the world is now driven by so many things to be able to make, then people give so much belief to education but not anymore, is it that the number of people that are educated are too much because still wondering what is the reason that education is losing its value, and people have been encouraging over time to have a skill even when you go to school but people think that education is for broke people, and people with skill are the one getting jobs. because those that when to school are still finding it difficult to get a job.  and it should either be a skill or an investment plan for every youth these days it is difficult for you to just graduate and secure a job instantly. you want to survive after school you start making plans.
I wouldn't say that education is losing its value bro, graphic designers and the rest of them still needs a little bit of education to deliver their skill, even Satoshi himself is literate because an illiterate couldn't have been able to create what we all enjoy today. Education is not a key way to success but it has its value and impact on us, in a world that technology is taking over we all need a little bit of education to pave through.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: freedomgo on February 29, 2024, 11:53:36 PM
How many of the actual graduates hold the knowledge of what they are graduated? They just learn something in a top college public colleges to get a job then just sit in their comfort until they retire but one who is rich now worked their Ass to get into this stage and only they know how much struggled to get here and importantly they found a solution to the existing problem in the society that can be monetized is the most efficient way to make quick money.
Of course, you can’t make money and get rich if you don’t work hard for it and even struggle. There’s no shortcuts to succeed, everything is paid with hardwork and perseverance at first. And even graduates are not an exception. They should still consistently apply the theories they have learned in their colleges, and if they excel to that and manage to make extra efforts, then being financially successful in the long run will always be possible.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 01, 2024, 01:30:23 AM
How many of the actual graduates hold the knowledge of what they are graduated? They just learn something in a top college public colleges to get a job then just sit in their comfort until they retire but one who is rich now worked their Ass to get into this stage and only they know how much struggled to get here and importantly they found a solution to the existing problem in the society that can be monetized is the most efficient way to make quick money.
Of course, you can’t make money and get rich if you don’t work hard for it and even struggle. There’s no shortcuts to succeed, everything is paid with hardwork and perseverance at first. And even graduates are not an exception. They should still consistently apply the theories they have learned in their colleges, and if they excel to that and manage to make extra efforts, then being financially successful in the long run will always be possible.
Academic skills is mainly to gain knowledge that we should apply in the real life scenario that will turn out to be a business as either service or product but why most graduates don't reach that position is just because they settled for a job and they are not thinking beyond that and that's for we have been seasoned since our birth by our parents, teachers, society and everyone.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 01, 2024, 04:13:17 AM
Going to school and being a graduate doesn't guarantees you success it only equips you with the knowledge and skills to be able to strive to achieve success but yet doesn't guarantee you might end up achieving the success you strive for eventually. We all have seen many graduates that steived hard but still ended up average or poor. The only thing that school guarantees us is knowledge, knowledge to know your right and where it starts and end, which is why a highly literate society is usually a peaceful society to live in unlike a highly illiterate populated societies.
also certain degree does indeed contribute to its students to be adept at certain and specific knowledge, for example is being a doctor, definitely you need to be within the standard of being a doctor and this kind of knowledge only found in university that have that faculty.
the point of university in the first place should be just for learning skills and being certified for learning one, thats it, people thinking college can somehow magically make them rich are just dreaming.
because we all know that whether to be success or not entirely depends on ourselves, the world doesn't owe us anything.
but in the other hand we need to carve our ways and path to be successful and its not going to be easy, so many competitions out there, are we sure that we can stand out or instead just gonna falls behind we don't know for sure.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: lizarder on March 01, 2024, 06:23:56 AM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Graduating from university does not make you richer because actually achieving wealth does not depend solely on the extent of your education. Many people gain wealth from developing businesses and many people gain wealth from the investment process, but not everyone has a high educational background. Wealth is taking advantage of opportunities and capital is an important foundation for people to make more money because without capital we cannot achieve the desired level of wealth.

If you want to become richer then prepare several steps and if you don't have capital then you can take advantage of working in other people's businesses first. Once you have successfully accumulated money and your experience has matured, you can build your own business slowly, after that you can develop your own business and enjoy the profits for yourself.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: puloweh555 on March 01, 2024, 09:03:37 AM
I think having a degree is just having one step ahead with someone who does not have. There are different factors to consider. And sometimes, people start from humble beginnings due to their hard work and perseverance has a higher chance to get the bountiful life ahead
It is true that having a degree is a plus because with it we have insight and increase our knowledge and of course when we have an academic degree our thinking will be different from those who do not have an academic degree. However, having a degree is not a guarantee of success or a better life in the future, because many do not have a degree but there are also those who are successful and some are even rich. The real key to success is hard work and having a goal.

So it could be said that having a college degree does not necessarily guarantee a better life in the future, going to college only delays success. Because success does not require a college degree. I talk like this because in the neighborhood where I live, many kids nowadays want to go to college because they follow their friends/for prestige. Without thinking about the importance of college. So after graduating, many people are confused about finding work. In fact, if you think about it, it's a shame that a lot of time, energy and money was wasted paying for college. Therefore, before starting something for the future, everyone is wiser in taking steps forward.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Nheer on March 01, 2024, 01:42:56 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Being educated and having high grades doesn’t guarantee anything, it doesn’t mean you will be wealthy and all, to be wealthy and successful there are lots of qualities one must instill in themselves to achieve this, it takes more than just good grades, it requires lots of hard work, sacrifices, risk and determination to succeed. Building ones business is not easy at all as there are those moments one would experience losses and face some challenges but that shouldn’t weigh us down.

School is essential but most times there are people who are too carried away with their degree or certificate and they are too boost about themselves. When you rely on your certificate you get loosed and keep waiting for white scholar jobs but those who made lower credit or second class can actually rely on their skills. Skills is what keep those that doesn't have a good certificates or those who doesn't go school, that is why you see them putting more efforts to work hard to make sure their skills pays them off than their certificate since they can't use to secure a credible work or what can put food on their table.
You are right, educated people get carried away by their certificate and educational achievements and feel too big to settle for ordinary jobs, they are so fixated on having a white collar job because those are the people who are respected more in the society. They don’t know that there is more opportunity in having a skill and being your own CEO than working for someone, when you work for someone you get used by the person and all the growth of the company is in favor of the person.

Having good grades is good and beneficial but it doesn’t guarantee anything as you will have to struggle just like others to get work especially in my country though you are at a higher advantage than those having lower grades.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 01, 2024, 01:55:05 PM
There can be many reasons for this:

1. The got a degree but into something that was forced upon them, they dont like it and they cannot put their innovative strength into it and thus they cannot land up a job.
2. They flunked the college or university and eventually came out as a low quality educated graduate. They peers might be landing jobs but they are not.
3. The degree that they got into is a well saturated field. However the phrase is relative and those who have a proper vision will be able to desaturate the market in no time.
4. The job might be need some years of slogging before getting a "wealthy" income. So give them time.

I dont agree with the "drop-outs" do better - because here you are looking at only the famous ones who actually had a vision to pursue. There are so many college drop-outs, if that was the case they would be ruling the working class, but they are not. Its called survivorship bias.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: letteredhub on March 01, 2024, 09:10:18 PM
Going to school and being a graduate doesn't guarantees you success it only equips you with the knowledge and skills to be able to strive to achieve success but yet doesn't guarantee you might end up achieving the success you strive for eventually. We all have seen many graduates that steived hard but still ended up average or poor. The only thing that school guarantees us is knowledge, knowledge to know your right and where it starts and end, which is why a highly literate society is usually a peaceful society to live in unlike a highly illiterate populated societies.
also certain degree does indeed contribute to its students to be adept at certain and specific knowledge, for example is being a doctor, definitely you need to be within the standard of being a doctor and this kind of knowledge only found in university that have that faculty.
the point of university in the first place should be just for learning skills and being certified for learning one, thats it, people thinking college can somehow magically make them rich are just dreaming.
because we all know that whether to be success or not entirely depends on ourselves, the world doesn't owe us anything.
but in the other hand we need to carve our ways and path to be successful and its not going to be easy, so many competitions out there, are we sure that we can stand out or instead just gonna falls behind we don't know for sure.
With the high rate of competitiveness now in this generation with everyone wanting to go to school to be called a literate or a graduate it's just so scary that sometimes one will wonder if they can survive the competition in the labour market in search of the few available jobs. And secondly, the field a person chooses to pursue as a career also plays an important role in shaping the person's life and chances of getting a good paying job that can put you in the rich people bracket.

Imagine someone studying a course that is no more invoke at this time you gonna find it hard to get hired in a company not to talk of a good paying company. So it's important when going to the university we do research about the course to study if it's still much relevant at this age.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Taskford on March 01, 2024, 11:05:17 PM
There can be many reasons for this:

1. The got a degree but into something that was forced upon them, they dont like it and they cannot put their innovative strength into it and thus they cannot land up a job.
2. They flunked the college or university and eventually came out as a low quality educated graduate. They peers might be landing jobs but they are not.
3. The degree that they got into is a well saturated field. However the phrase is relative and those who have a proper vision will be able to desaturate the market in no time.
4. The job might be need some years of slogging before getting a "wealthy" income. So give them time.

Right you have valid points on the reasons why there are still graduates that are not wealthy since to many factors need to look and not all people destined to get rich. Also want to add that certain obligation to family what also make those graduate to lose a lot of opportunity since becoming a breadwinner on the family leaves you no choice but to accept whatever job available for you to take, that's why other choose to get those job which is mismatch on their qualification since they don't have any choice as they need money to support their family immediate needs.

I dont agree with the "drop-outs" do better - because here you are looking at only the famous ones who actually had a vision to pursue. There are so many college drop-outs, if that was the case they would be ruling the working class, but they are not. Its called survivorship bias.

They just read to much success stories of those some billionaires became so successful after they drop out on college. They fantasize everything because they just dream to be as successful as them but they forget to realize that in reality everything they think easy is not actually work just like that. That's why its better for them to be real and they will not became successful automaticaly if they drop out since it need mix of luck,skills and determination to became successful in life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Woodie on March 01, 2024, 11:14:52 PM
Because the system is broken and not everyone can be rich unfortunately ::)!!

Btw, too many graduates of today depend on white collar jobs and few of them want to do the tough jobs such as engineering, being a specialised doctor and all that good stuff. Aa

There could be an element of laziness too which is another inhibitor to success, for those willing to work it's usually the job experience that sits on their success but it's all about time as their time to shine will come..just don't give up yet!!


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: sulendra12 on March 01, 2024, 11:20:06 PM
Graduates doesn't guarantee you a good living and job to work on. It depends on how the person to use the skills to fulfill the job criteria and how well they are in society. Sure the grades are useful for the front-criteria but just imagine with that score and your skill doesn't meet the criteria for the job, that must be really shame and it does happens in here regularly with low skill people with high graders don't do anything.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 02, 2024, 11:08:55 AM
Right you have valid points on the reasons why there are still graduates that are not wealthy since to many factors need to look and not all people destined to get rich. Also want to add that certain obligation to family what also make those graduate to lose a lot of opportunity since becoming a breadwinner on the family leaves you no choice but to accept whatever job available for you to take, that's why other choose to get those job which is mismatch on their qualification since they don't have any choice as they need money to support their family immediate needs.
True, many times bread-earning is the prime objective, which is not the wrong path - you need to stay alive to fight the next step.

In such cases the person should work on that job and make attempts to come out of the status quo into something that they wished to do. The money from the first job will fund their next endeavor. However this takes determination and getting squashed into the status quo in a job they dont love is common and that kills the hope.

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They just read to much success stories of those some billionaires became so successful after they drop out on college.
Rebellious attitude always attracts attention. Not going to college is the rebellious style and at that time they dont understand the harm they are doing to their lives, because their age will continue to increase and their education will slow down.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Mauser on March 02, 2024, 04:04:42 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
   

I don't think that being a graduate is the key to becoming wealth. It's true that many rich people are graduates from universities, or at least visited the university for a few semesters. But we need to put that into perspective. The number of graduates increased a lot over the last 40 years. Having a graduate degree today is like having a high school diploma 60 years ago. Times are changing and it's much more common to compare ourselves today to other university degrees. Which will mean that most rich people we look at have a university diploma, but it feels wrong to say that this is the source of their wealth. Unfortunately, many jobs these days require us to have a graduate degree to even apply for them. Education is definitely important in life and we should invest a lot of time and money to learn as much as possible, but it needs to be right things we learn. Just getting a random university degree in art or some other field that is not giving any benefits to the business world is not going to be that helpful in our job search.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: someone703 on March 02, 2024, 04:44:08 PM
Sure, some folks might skip college and end up totally lost, but that doesn't mean everyone without a diploma is doomed. There are tons of successful people out there who carved their own paths.

The real thing is, a degree gives you some serious ammo: knowledge, skills, and that fancy piece of paper that screams "I stuck it out!" These can definitely help you land a good job, but they're not the only weapons in your arsenal.

Even with a degree, you gotta have the right stuff to win the game. Soft skills like teamwork and communication are key, and so is a hustle that never quits. Plus, the world keeps changing, so staying on top of your game with constant learning is a must.

So, remember, a college degree is a valuable tool, but it's not a magic wand. It takes hard work, a positive attitude, and a willingness to learn to truly own your success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: southerngentuk on March 02, 2024, 05:15:35 PM
A college degree isn't a golden ticket to riches. Financial independence takes time, smart planning, and consistent good habits like responsible money management, regardless of your educational background. Plenty of individuals have proven this by building wealth through entrepreneurship, investing, or simply living frugally.

However, framing a college degree solely as a wealth-generating tool paints an incomplete picture. A degree, at its core, acts as **a passport to opportunities. It equips you with specialized knowledge and critical thinking skills, potentially leading to higher-paying careers or stronger foundations for starting businesses.

While exceptional individuals thrive without formal education, they often possess unique talents, unwavering drive, and invaluable life experiences that contribute to their success. Education and financial well-being are not mutually exclusive. A college degree can be a valuable tool in your financial success toolbox, but it's only one tool among many.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on March 02, 2024, 07:32:00 PM
Graduates doesn't guarantee you a good living and job to work on. It depends on how the person to use the skills to fulfill the job criteria and how well they are in society. Sure the grades are useful for the front-criteria but just imagine with that score and your skill doesn't meet the criteria for the job, that must be really shame and it does happens in here regularly with low skill people with high graders don't do anything.

In our country mostly educated people are without having a job and they cannot take benefit of their education because of less seats in every city. There are lots of graduated students who have gained higher score and also possess skills but still they have no job but their is no fault of their education but due to lower number of jobs they are not finding their deserving seats.

Now a days almost every has done their graduation but the value of education is getting down as I have my own experience that uneducated or less educated people are doing a better job while educated individuals are setting useless at home without doing any job. So a piece of degree cannot define our future but its sometimes our luck that help us in find a better job and better lifestyle.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: tyz on March 02, 2024, 07:40:03 PM
Good one-week old article on the subject. It states that half of all new graduates in the US only work in jobs that expect high school level education and in which they actually don't need a degree. These are mainly food or retail jobs and are poorly paid compared to the tuition paid for their education.

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  • Nearly half of new college graduates in the US are working high school-level jobs, per new research.
  • Around 52% of recent graduates start their careers in jobs that don't need a degree, it said.
  • Most of these underemployed graduates work in food services, construction, and office administration.
Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/half-new-us-graduates-work-high-school-level-jobs-2024-2


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on March 02, 2024, 10:26:18 PM
That's where some people seem to get it wrong, they think by having that opportunity of being a graduate that everything will be better in future. I agree with you that everyone doesn't have the same opportunity and it all depends on luck honestly speaking, people always let it get into the their head that after school the next thing is getting a job in a bigger firm and some don't have what it takes like they can't contribute to their place of work.
It wouldn't be instantly better that's for sure, but it's a lot better than being some random bum out there who doesn't know jack. At least, said education can open up a few opportunities for you, especially with the lot of short courses that most people can get nowadays.

Things these days have a different way of making things seem that way of being educated and getting job opportunities but I don't really go with that because I can still say it that those who finished their education and still wonder around seeking for job opportunity and the job also change hands to be for those who don't see it as importance to go to school, is just upside down and with that short courses it still doesn't help in anyway.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: God bless u on March 03, 2024, 02:00:36 AM
No not only being a graduate earns you money but you also need to get some very exceptional skill set in order to succeed in life. Nowadays the degrees are some much common that it's very normal for someone to go to a college and earn a degree.whats nor normal is havi g a good skill set, if you have some exceptional skills in your field or in any field then you can surely sell them in the form of jobs or through freelance platforms.

But without a proper education it's very difficult to cope up with the society that's why it's essential to get education but on the other side it's also very important to hustle for your skill set as well otherwise your education will be of no means.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: lixer on March 03, 2024, 05:08:22 PM
Education is valuable, but it's not the sole determinant of wealth so being a graduate doesn't guarantee wealth as wealth can be achieved through various path like, investment and entrepreneurship, If you are fortunate to secure a job after graduation then that's just luck and connection. I believe that being a graduate only shapes and molds you to present yourself positively and guides your path as most wealthy men in the world today like mark Zuckerberg were school dropouts, but the little education he had helped and molded his mindset to become whom he is today.
Just to make it clear, people who were school or college dropouts, such as Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, knew how to code and that is a skill that not everyone had during those times. It's a skill, and having such a skill or knowledge can lead you somewhere at least, fortunately for them, it leads them to extreme success. So it's not like they were illiterate dropouts but they were skilled individuals from the beginning, it's just that their skills weren't what they might have learned from school or college.

What this proves is that you don't need formal education to be able to gain success in your life but it's all about skills and knowledge because you can only go up the ladder of success if you show the world that you have something in you.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on March 03, 2024, 07:05:12 PM
Just to make it clear, people who were school or college dropouts, such as Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates, knew how to code and that is a skill that not everyone had during those times. It's a skill, and having such a skill or knowledge can lead you somewhere at least, fortunately for them, it leads them to extreme success. So it's not like they were illiterate dropouts but they were skilled individuals from the beginning, it's just that their skills weren't what they might have learned from school or college.

What this proves is that you don't need formal education to be able to gain success in your life but it's all about skills and knowledge because you can only go up the ladder of success if you show the world that you have something in you.

I agree with you that we should get motivated by these people but we shouldn't try to copy what they did or what happened to them. Getting dropped out of school or college isn't a good thing and it doesn't become good just because some successful people had to face it. We should work as hard as they did if we want to become successful like them in our lives.


Skills are important for everyone, but education is equally important in my opinion because when you have education, you get to have more opportunities to showcase your skills at bigger stages in life which can be very useful for you. Education+ skill will open the doors of many opportunities which you cannot get from one alone. Try to work hard, learn well and then don't care about the result. It you haven't bad luck, your work will gives you fruit.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Iroh on March 03, 2024, 07:19:13 PM
I dont agree with the "drop-outs" do better - because here you are looking at only the famous ones who actually had a vision to pursue. There are so many college drop-outs, if that was the case they would be ruling the working class, but they are not. Its called survivorship bias.

It’s not a fact that drop outs do better and if there ever was a theory stating so, I would likely disagree with that theory. Admittedly, people drop out from school for various reasons. One likely reason is having lack of financial support to continue your education. But then people have dropped out for lesser reasons and due to their irresponsibility and lack of focus on their studies.

People that dropped out due to carelessness and irresponsible decisions.. how then can such people do well in life when they can’t gather enough motivation and focus to finish what they started.
And without having relevant educational qualifications to make him more relevant and wanted for employment purposes, he’ll be majorly overlooked as his chances would be slim or next to zero.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 05, 2024, 03:07:42 PM
It’s not a fact that drop outs do better and if there ever was a theory stating so, I would likely disagree with that theory.
Thank you for keeping your mind clear of the misconceptions.

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Admittedly, people drop out from school for various reasons. One likely reason is having lack of financial support to continue your education. But then people have dropped out for lesser reasons and due to their irresponsibility and lack of focus on their studies.
Some of them actually have a vision to proceed with and these handful people made a career out of it and hence it is wrong to generalize that college drop-out = a revolutionary human.

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People that dropped out due to carelessness and irresponsible decisions.. how then can such people do well in life when they can’t gather enough motivation and focus to finish what they started.
And without having relevant educational qualifications to make him more relevant and wanted for employment purposes, he’ll be majorly overlooked as his chances would be slim or next to zero.
Pretty much the case with many younger people who end up in low paying jobs, gig-work and so on. Their lives are on the stake and their chances of getting into a stable earning is very low. Eventually they grow out of their age to educate themselves.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Misslotfunds on March 05, 2024, 07:13:32 PM
Anyone who thinks education is a major key to wealth is a lier, on a scale of 100 education is just 30 and in this 30, 20 is just your enlightenment on the field you aspire for while the 10 packages you to be more learned and think smartly than an illiterate.

Look at the richest people in the world today, most of them aren't wealthy cus of education, alot of them do something apparently different from what they learnt in school others go into innovations and they rest into skills while applying their creativity into it and they are all wealthy. Education only makes you aware and enlightened it doesn't make you wealthy


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 05, 2024, 09:32:26 PM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Adbitco on March 05, 2024, 11:00:14 PM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person
The secret of success is never being taught in school that is why you finds somany graduate that are poor, in this part of our world we have been poisoned by the word school although going to school is good but not mandatory that you must go to school to becomes successful in life.

If you don't we have lots of people in our country today who doesn't steps their legs to school but are self made without even any qualifications, and what we should also take note is that graduate is not by certificate rather is from the mindset someone could be a graduate today doesn't mean that is every possibility for him to be extremely rich.

But with his mindset he create something different from other people and becomes rich, that is to say when you solve problems in this world then will recognized you and hire you to solve their problems by then you easily becomes rich while those who went through educational way are still their search for job without and experience and sound knowledge.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: slapper on March 06, 2024, 06:32:57 AM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person
The secret of success is never being taught in school that is why you finds somany graduate that are poor, in this part of our world we have been poisoned by the word school although going to school is good but not mandatory that you must go to school to becomes successful in life.

If you don't we have lots of people in our country today who doesn't steps their legs to school but are self made without even any qualifications, and what we should also take note is that graduate is not by certificate rather is from the mindset someone could be a graduate today doesn't mean that is every possibility for him to be extremely rich.

But with his mindset he create something different from other people and becomes rich, that is to say when you solve problems in this world then will recognized you and hire you to solve their problems by then you easily becomes rich while those who went through educational way are still their search for job without and experience and sound knowledge.
Success certainly isn't a one-size-fits-all, especially in the traditional classroom. But rejecting education? Quite the stretch. Education is about grabbing knowledge wherever you can, not just in school. Experience, self-education, and life's hard knocks are classrooms too

The need for knowledge and continuous pursuit of growth matter more than the credential. Instead of avoiding education, self-made people understand its actual value. They used their curiosity, mentality, and readiness to learn from everything. The key to success is applying what you've learned, not where you learned it. Wake up, delve deep, and expand your education definition. It's everywhere and for all. Just grip it with both hands


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Lantind on March 06, 2024, 08:46:57 AM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person
It's true, we can also find those who have become graduates who still don't know how to be successful in their lives. If someone can solve their financial problems well, of course they will be able to easily plan their finances well and this will make them not poor. in living their lives, I think that in making plans it will not be affected whether they are graduates or not, but those who have a bachelor's degree will certainly be more focused in planning their lives and even those who are not graduates have their own way of making plans to have an income.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 06, 2024, 10:43:54 AM
Graduates doesn't guarantee you a good living and job to work on. It depends on how the person to use the skills to fulfill the job criteria and how well they are in society. Sure the grades are useful for the front-criteria but just imagine with that score and your skill doesn't meet the criteria for the job, that must be really shame and it does happens in here regularly with low skill people with high graders don't do anything.
the key about being graduate is just to meet that bare minimum of job applications, as many have stated, being a graduate nowaday doesn't guarantee anything because its literally the bare minimum,
people who thinks being graduate equates to wealth are simply hallucinating, there's a study indeed that shows that people who are having a degree are earning better than those that don't have degree simply becuase they have wider chance and opportunity to go for because they already meet the bareminimum.
sometime that qualification of being a graduate exists so that company can just filter out people since usually applicants are abundant.
being a graduate at least you don't worry about not be able to meet that minimum requirements at least you still have plenty chance, for example graduate in compsci that specializes in backend for example, could easily apply to a job where only compsci graduate are qualified.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: macson on March 06, 2024, 03:11:41 PM
Graduates doesn't guarantee you a good living and job to work on. It depends on how the person to use the skills to fulfill the job criteria and how well they are in society. Sure the grades are useful for the front-criteria but just imagine with that score and your skill doesn't meet the criteria for the job, that must be really shame and it does happens in here regularly with low skill people with high graders don't do anything.
i have noticed quite a lot of college graduates, even with the best grades, it is difficult to get a job, this is because the competition is getting tougher and also the lack of privileges those graduates have.  Job opportunities are like cakes, and graduates every year are like ants, just imagine how many cakes there must be to get all the ants, surely the distribution will never be fair.  It's not easy, but setting up your own business seems to be a good thing for the long term, this is a step that graduates can take.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on March 06, 2024, 04:32:46 PM
I think having a degree is just having one step ahead with someone who does not have. There are different factors to consider.

What are the factors to consider before we believe that someone who has a degree is just one step away from someone who doesn’t? How did you view these? Did you see them as something possible because, believe me, sincerely, someone who is educated and has a degree is far better than someone who does not have any. Even the skills and education he has is something to be considered. Furthermore, when it comes to applying for a job, someone who is a degree holder has a possibility of getting a job. What about those who do not have a degree? Believe me, they will not get such a job to even apply for it. 

i have noticed quite a lot of college graduates, even with the best grades, it is difficult to get a job, this is because the competition is getting tougher and also the lack of privileges those graduates have.  Job opportunities are like cakes, and graduates every year are like ants, just imagine how many cakes there must be to get all the ants, surely the distribution will never be fair.  It's not easy, but setting up your own business seems to be a good thing for the long term, this is a step that graduates can take.

Is it all about setting up your business? What about the money to start up the business? Although I know that as a graduate, it is not really easy to finish school and stay at home without getting another job, it is very painful after spending many years studying and graduating without getting a job. It will be useless. Although education is very important for our lives, getting a job after school is something we should consider, but our government doesn’t care whether graduates get jobs or not, which is unfair. 


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: MissNonFall9 on March 06, 2024, 05:11:56 PM
Education is one of the basic human subjects. Humanity develops through education. It is not true that everyone will become rich by passing the graduation level. Because to be rich, you or I have to go through a certain path, there must be the basic skills to be rich in the character traits. Again suppose all the people in this world have some things they like and they are good at it. However, in many countries, they do not get the opportunity to study the subjects required for university entrance exams. So they have to study subjects outside their choice where they may not have expertise. So their chances of success from there are very less.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hamphser on March 06, 2024, 05:24:09 PM
Education is one of the basic human subjects. Humanity develops through education. It is not true that everyone will become rich by passing the graduation level. Because to be rich, you or I have to go through a certain path, there must be the basic skills to be rich in the character traits. Again suppose all the people in this world have some things they like and they are good at it. However, in many countries, they do not get the opportunity to study the subjects required for university entrance exams. So they have to study subjects outside their choice where they may not have expertise. So their chances of success from there are very less.
Its never been that a guaranteed thing but just like been said that this would really be a solid foundation for you to have or build up that knowledge that you could gain when you do go to school on which
this is far more better in compared into those people who hadnt been able to touch up on going to school. Of course there would really be no guarantees that you would be wealthy even if you do
have finished college but somewhat you do really have that kind of advantage since you are really having that kind of awareness and knowledge on particular things.Plus when it comes to requirements or prerequisites then you do have that which its a plus or advantage.

When you do have plans on making some expansion when it comes or talks about business or investment then it would really be that depending into your own
choice whether you would really be exerting more effort or not.It would really be just that depending on you on how wise and hardworking and
patient you would be on facing up challenges.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dr.Osh on March 07, 2024, 09:58:21 AM
well, wealth is not based on graduation. In fact, many people are still poor or do not find work after they graduate. What makes people rich is the ability they have and the hard work they put in. No matter how good a person's abilities are, and even how good his graduation is, if he is lazy, he will experience setbacks.
After all, graduation is only the foundation for developing the skills we have, and it is proof that we may be experts in a field. However, what makes everything run smoothly is how capable you are and how hard you work to achieve your goals.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: leonair on March 07, 2024, 10:16:15 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.
Educational certificate only increases our social and status Education certificate can never give us any good job.  Because you must have good skills to do good work  Without skill you can't do anything well. Because where you will work, they will take work from you in exchange of money, they will not pay you after seeing your certificate. So to do something good in life you must have skills.  Without skill you can do nothing.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Peanutswar on March 07, 2024, 10:59:19 AM
Not all graduates have the gained skills during their schools, so they are sometimes struggling how to market themselves, and to those graduates people still it depend not everyone has the same opportunity that's why the school are preparing us with the reality, once you graduate, and face the outside world you can now see how struggle it is this is how people getting strive to survive with their daily basis. If you have the knowledge, skills, and network its easy to you to make a good communication to market and make your own strategy to get out with the social status you have and reach to become a successful once.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: NotATether on March 07, 2024, 11:07:19 AM
The number one reason is debt...

Now with credit card debt going crazy, we are seeing people with NEGATIVE balances on their accounts, because they are literally spending on a lifestyle they can't afford.

Of course that's going to keep you poor for the foreseeable future. Actually, if there was such a thing as "worse than poor", this would be it because at least poor people have some money.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Bright0515 on March 07, 2024, 11:17:01 AM
By right being a graduate should have been a mega boost to success after spending so many precious years in school studying in the university it was suppose to help you be among the wealthiest depending on your field of study but education does not give money but knowledge then it is left for you as a learned person to apply the knowledge you have acquired in the area it is needed for you to be successful. Many graduates today don't apply their knowledge where it is needed though they may try but you can still try but not be successful why sometimes maybe that is not your field of knowledge.

Many successful business men and women today are not graduates why? U can be an illiterate and still become successful that is if you are perfect in what you do some graduates only don't have the skill but venture into it but with the knowledge they acquire they become perfect.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: CageMabok on March 07, 2024, 11:17:49 AM
Education is one of the basic human subjects. Humanity develops through education. It is not true that everyone will become rich by passing the graduation level. Because to be rich, you or I have to go through a certain path, there must be the basic skills to be rich in the character traits. Again suppose all the people in this world have some things they like and they are good at it. However, in many countries, they do not get the opportunity to study the subjects required for university entrance exams. So they have to study subjects outside their choice where they may not have expertise. So their chances of success from there are very less.

Education and a person's process of becoming rich actually have to be separated from each other because there are many people who have taken the educational path but still have not become rich even though they have acquired a lot of basic knowledge. So these things should not be combined but must be separated from each other because there are a lot of people who become rich from their own family even though they haven't taken much of an educational path in their life.

But I also will not ignore those who have become rich after taking more educational paths in this world because people like that are extraordinary people who have struggled from the ground up to become rich through the process of skills that they have acquired through a lot of education. And from most people who are successful in becoming rich, you can also see that they will eventually take a business path that will make their marketing wider and more developed due to the knowledge they can use to carry out this.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 07, 2024, 12:14:47 PM
Education is important, and it is just one of the achievements that people also need. Because this is one of the sources of knowledge that we can use in the future. Actually, the topic of education is very broad, because this is where our knowledge and strategy on how to survive in life begin. The more we know, the better. It is difficult that we only know so little.

Now why are there still more poor people, even though most of them have completed their education or have a diploma? That's because they don't use the things they learned in their studies. Even though Mark Zuckerburg dropped out, they were still successful in life, and what they learned while he was studying cannot be unrelated to the success he has now in his life. He became even smarter because he saw that his business would grow even more if he hired smart graduates for his company. Because he knows what is brought about by a person with knowledge or intelligence who has graduated.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: tyz on March 07, 2024, 09:05:17 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.
Educational certificate only increases our social and status Education certificate can never give us any good job.  Because you must have good skills to do good work  Without skill you can't do anything well. Because where you will work, they will take work from you in exchange of money, they will not pay you after seeing your certificate. So to do something good in life you must have skills.  Without skill you can do nothing.

A degree only shows that you have completed training in a subject. It's just a kind of entry ticket or door opener. Whether your degree was worthwhile in the end depends on whether you can apply what you have learned and add value to the company. Only then will a degree be worthwhile. I know some people who put a lot of effort into their studies, got a degree and then took it easy on the job. They were then fired and are now keeping their heads above water with freelance jobs. For them, studying wasn't worth it financially. If they had brought more of what they had learned into the company, they would be in a better position now.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Vinaa77 on March 09, 2024, 09:43:20 AM
Not all graduates have the gained skills during their schools, so they are sometimes struggling how to market themselves, and to those graduates people still it depend not everyone has the same opportunity that's why the school are preparing us with the reality, once you graduate, and face the outside world you can now see how struggle it is this is how people getting strive to survive with their daily basis. If you have the knowledge, skills, and network its easy to you to make a good communication to market and make your own strategy to get out with the social status you have and reach to become a successful once.
It is true that not everyone who completes education can have skills according to their field of school and also those who have good grades at school may not necessarily be able to get a job after completing their education, so the theory they understand at school is not a benchmark that they will be able to have a job according to. their field, in order to survive it is important for us to be able to have skills that can give us income and look for relationships that can give us information to have a job because if we don't do anything then it is very unlikely that other people will offer us work.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Tony116 on March 09, 2024, 05:16:35 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating.
Education gives you an advantage and makes you more likely to be rich and wealthy. There are poor graduates for many reasons like,
the system failing them, that is after school there was no good job available for them, some of them were not serious in school and because of their poor grades made themselves not eligible for good jobs. There are some poor graduates because education does not remove automatically financial indiscipline. Some graduates are poor because they have failed to keep money to build wealth when they had it.

Agreed with @Princess Leah, we have to ubderstand that Education or graduation does not make your wealth. Only certificate can't give you success, there must be full dedication to achieve something in life. Without this dedication no one can makes money in their life. We must be focused in our life so that we can do what we actually want to do in our life. If graduates people are not focused dedicated in their work-life then they must be poor. 3 thngs we need to make something happen speciall in our life skill, hardwork, and luck.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SatoPrincess on March 10, 2024, 09:17:01 PM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person

The only way to break out of poverty cycle is to provide a service or sell a product. School does not teach one how to become rich. Scholars aren’t particularly concerned about making money for themselves, they live for the passion of their chosen profession. Most times, students are so busy with their studies that they forget to socialize and build relationship with other students on campus. I think building a strong network in university helps a lot when you’re in the labour market and you need jobs or contracts.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: livingfree on March 10, 2024, 09:44:55 PM
Agreed with @Princess Leah, we have to ubderstand that Education or graduation does not make your wealth. Only certificate can't give you success, there must be full dedication to achieve something in life. Without this dedication no one can makes money in their life. We must be focused in our life so that we can do what we actually want to do in our life. If graduates people are not focused dedicated in their work-life then they must be poor. 3 thngs we need to make something happen speciall in our life skill, hardwork, and luck.
Also with certificates, they're the same with diplomas. But what's good with having these is that you've got the way to start and have some credentials.

Although it is not the ideal thing for most employers as they have their way of picking up good employees based on their criteria. And about being successful, let's not invalidate the feelings of the people that have graduated. Studying also takes time and having to finish college is already part of their first success.

So if it's about success, you determine that with your own basis as they will determine theirs too and if it's about wealthy, it's a different thing. This is how we define each other's grit and how we cope with our strategies on our way to riches and becoming wealthy.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Bloodseekers on March 11, 2024, 05:41:18 AM
To be a graduate is not a guarantee for you to become a rich person, the only thing is that a a graduate have a be possible ways to solve a problem to also plan very well in order to elevate itself from getting poverty or being poor for life why someone who is not a graduate will not have the kind of idea someone who is a graduate how for a order to Plan a better way for its life, one thing I want us to understand is that this life is all about planning and also a God wish to us to be rich is based on your strategies, understand the dimensions of life and the application of life before you become a successful person

The only way to break out of poverty cycle is to provide a service or sell a product. School does not teach one how to become rich. Scholars aren’t particularly concerned about making money for themselves, they live for the passion of their chosen profession. Most times, students are so busy with their studies that they forget to socialize and build relationship with other students on campus. I think building a strong network in university helps a lot when you’re in the labour market and you need jobs or contracts.
It is true that by providing services or selling products, of course this will be able to get us out of poverty, but we have to have products that are of good quality so that they can easily be sold on the market and for graduates of course they are thinking about their career so they can get their bachelor's degree. What's even better is that those who are busy thinking about their studies of course very rarely think about how to make money and this is very unfortunate when they finish their studies and will have difficulty finding work if they don't have a network to be able to get a job.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dr.Osh on March 11, 2024, 06:32:43 AM
Education is important, and it is just one of the achievements that people also need. Because this is one of the sources of knowledge that we can use in the future. Actually, the topic of education is very broad, because this is where our knowledge and strategy on how to survive in life begin. The more we know, the better. It is difficult that we only know so little.

Now why are there still more poor people, even though most of them have completed their education or have a diploma? That's because they don't use the things they learned in their studies. Even though Mark Zuckerburg dropped out, they were still successful in life, and what they learned while he was studying cannot be unrelated to the success he has now in his life. He became even smarter because he saw that his business would grow even more if he hired smart graduates for his company. Because he knows what is brought about by a person with knowledge or intelligence who has graduated.
Yes, graduation is proof that you have studied there, but that doesn't mean you have extraordinary skills from that. That's why education and skills are really needed in a field. I have many friends who have graduated but did not have good abilities when they practiced the field they studied. Some people are only good at theory and memorization. However, it's pretty bad at doing its job. However, I believe that the most important thing that can make a person rich is the ability and knowledge he has.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: shield132 on March 11, 2024, 09:30:24 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
I have heard from my parents then years ago when they were young, that if they studied well, then the government (it was communism during their time) would choose them, give them a good, high-paying job and they would also be appreciated in the society. They grew up with this mentality, if you want to achieve anything in life, you have to enter university or you'll be a physical labour forever but in reality, things are very different today. No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: GigaBit on March 11, 2024, 12:46:02 PM
A man can be educated but can not assurance of his employment. In today's world, the number of people has increased tremendously, the number of educated people is not less. The number of graduates is constantly increasing but they are leading an unemployed life after completing their studies. The labor supply is not increasing at the rate at which educated unemployment is increasing. That is, educated people are not getting work due to lack of employment.

Another major reason is that there is a tendency among educated people that they are not willing to work if they cannot provide employment according to their expected level. There is no guarantee that a degree holder will always get a job at his level. But when a person gets this thought fixed in his mind, he can no longer work in other jobs.

To get rid of such a situation a person must undergo vocational education along with academic education. So that he is not unemployed at least. Government will never be able to provide employment to all their population according to demand but if everyone gets vocational education then surely they will not be unemployed.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: arwin100 on March 11, 2024, 01:27:27 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: angrybirdy on March 11, 2024, 01:59:34 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 11, 2024, 02:57:00 PM
literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
these judgemental environment just emit negative energy to be honest, these people should be supportive if im being honest, its tough to live these days so much judgement if we don't achieve something meanwhile life is not all always about who's the best and what not.
discrimination in job though about these education requirement is real, sometime some people are judged not adequate if not having diploma or bachelor degree its really painful for those that literally have no money for education and finding a job just become more harder and harder with even tighter requirements.
fortunately though nowadays there are many online degree that we can get by paying nothing at all, therefore it really helps people that are in true need of education.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Mame89 on March 12, 2024, 10:23:56 PM
well, wealth is not based on graduation. In fact, many people are still poor or do not find work after they graduate. What makes people rich is the ability they have and the hard work they put in. No matter how good a person's abilities are, and even how good his graduation is, if he is lazy, he will experience setbacks.
After all, graduation is only the foundation for developing the skills we have, and it is proof that we may be experts in a field. However, what makes everything run smoothly is how capable you are and how hard you work to achieve your goals.
Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: shield132 on March 13, 2024, 03:18:05 PM
No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.
I don't say that it's meaningless to get a high-quality education. Educated people are very necessary, they improve technology, they invent things and they make our life better. Everyone should definitely study well to become an engineer or doctor. In these fields their education matters very much because uneducated people can't build bridges and hospitals, in this niche it's inevitable to run a business successfully without qualified personnel.

When I say that being a graduate is not a key to being wealthy, I mean that education alone is not enough if you can't promote yourself. Your social skills decide your future too. Do you think HR always chooses the most educated guy when there is a vacancy? If there is a very educated and intellectual man in the room but can't promote himself and sits quietly in the corner, that guy is not going to get recruited. I have also seen many people who lack education but come from rich families or are very sociable and risk takers, which helped them to achieve financially more than what graduated people achieve.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: ancafe on March 13, 2024, 04:41:10 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: rangga28 on March 13, 2024, 05:04:57 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Having a graduate or higher education does not necessarily guarantee that someone will be richer,, because to achieve wealth nowadays you must have large capital and be supported by adequate skills. Education only provides a way for someone to seek knowledge but does not provide the same opportunity to gain wealth. Marketing management and skills in building relationships are quite important in developing a business because we have to find as many consumers as possible to buy the products we sell.

The long process of developing a business is not easy because people have to rise and fall to achieve success. If someone is inconsistent and not ready to take risks, it will be much more difficult to achieve success in the business world. That's why achieving wealth is not as easy as imagined because there are many processes that people have to go through and of course it is not easy to achieve it.
First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fortify on March 13, 2024, 09:17:54 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

There are many ways to think about this, imagine being a tradesman for example - you can do many things with a hammer and a screwdriver, but to be truly successful you need the full load of kit which is specialized for every job. Just having a degree is not enough these days, as younger generations are often funneled through this treadmill to make universities richer but pick up less than useful skills. If thousands of people are learning how to be librarians or archaeologists every year, when there may only be less than a hundred jobs available in the field - it makes it hyper competitive to use that specific degree when you get out of university. Many will be resigned to pursuing something that may be less than their ideal job choice.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Ben Barubal on March 13, 2024, 10:55:19 PM
     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 13, 2024, 11:05:38 PM
     Education is important because, honestly, I have not seen anyone who has been successful in life who did not learn anything in school, even if we say that others drop out of school. Today, most of those who have graduated—actually,  not all of them—apply what they learned in school. That's why the rest of them, most of them, still remain poor.

Because there are others who have graduated that combine what they have learned with the strategy that they think of doing for the business that they want to get and do in reality.
there are indeed things that you learn from school that does make positive changes towards the way you life so basically it helps you got at calculating finances so on. the problem with degrees only lies when you or we aren't graduting from STEM degree where it truly thrives after you've done with the university, it could opens up many opportunities for earning big chunk of salary.
the other degree though not so much, except very few of course, but overall many degrees aren't truly worth it to learn i presume since the knowledge can be learnt anywhere else and many time I think the curriculum is outdated so yes it doesn't necessarily guarantees wealth even there are still big chance that we might ended up at minimum wage at some point but at least we can apply for jobs.
maybe someday we might get the position that we wanted and deserve a good salary at some point.
my point here being that there's no wrong in getting that degree, you only lives once and I think thats enough reason I guess.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Iroh on March 13, 2024, 11:23:20 PM
Anyone who thinks education is a major key to wealth is a lier, on a scale of 100 education is just 30 and in this 30, 20 is just your enlightenment on the field you aspire for while the 10 packages you to be more learned and think smartly than an illiterate.


Education is important and one needs it amongst other things to attain and keep wealth. On my scale of importance, I’ll give education an 80 out of 100. A quality education doesn’t just impact knowledge into you, it reshapes your behavior and could alter one’s way of thinking for the better only if that person is open to learning and ready to change.
But admittedly, completing your colleague education doesn’t necessarily get you wealthy. No sane person would think a college degree would, on its own generate wealth.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: ancafe on March 14, 2024, 06:07:51 PM
First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.
No one doubts that education is a source of knowledge that must be sought, but education does not guarantee that someone will become richer. Wealth is not obtained naturally because people have to prepare except when their parents inherit it. Education has nothing to do with wealth and poverty, but education is part of the way for someone to build relationships. With good relationships, it will be much easier for us to develop a business so that wealth will be closer to us.

Education is seen only as a step for someone to seek knowledge and education is a foundation for people to seek insight in a particular field. If the relationship between education can make someone richer then there are many people who are not educated who are also successful in becoming rich from the business activities and other things they undertake so this comparison is not relevant.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Neobanks on March 15, 2024, 02:17:41 AM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
No one cares about your education if you can't market yourself. I had a mate in university who had all the A+ grades but she still works at McDonalds because she wasn't from a rich family and was a shy girl.
On another hand, there are many people who have never studied at school and university but earn six figures. Khaby Lame is a good example, he never studied at University but used the right moment at the right time and is earning much more than people who work 12 hour shifts a week and do the hardest jobs.

No mate there are still a lot of people cares about your education since somehow there are people will look at this achievement  before they respect you. Also there's a lot of discrimination outside especially if you are not a college graduate. You can't get a high paying job and your position most likely hard to rise.  Maybe there are some undergraduate became so rich due to a lot of hustle they do in life. But people should remember that we have different faith and what became effective to other may not work to other people. That's why we or they need to graduate so they have a lot of choices in life.

literally yes, there's a lot of discrimination especially here in our country, no matter how rich you are, if you don't have a diploma to present to other people, they will still say something about you. sometimes even if you have finished your studies but you don't have a good job, they will still judge you. When it comes to the corporate world, you cannot justify your experiences and your knowledge because one of the main requirements they are looking for is a diploma.
To me I see education as a birth right to every individual because it helps one to be well integrated in the society. education is not only the factor that guarantee wealth, it's just an added advantage to create wealth and succeed in life while wealth is directly proportion to the value you can offer to enhance efficient and smooth running of the society.
There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Litzki1990 on March 15, 2024, 08:48:49 AM
I have seen many people who have completed their graduation who are currently unemployed. After completing graduation there are many people who do not find their suitable job which force them to remain unemployed. If we think that a person who graduated means he is rich then we are wrong because not all students who complete graduation can find proper job which makes them either unemployed or tutoring. A student who completes graduation does not choose tutoring as a career as a meritocracy but rather they choose this tutoring as their career under compulsion. Out of the number of students who complete their graduation every year, 20 to 30% students may get job opportunities and the remaining 70% students remain unemployed.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Princess Leah on March 15, 2024, 11:28:14 PM
I have seen many people who have completed their graduation who are currently unemployed. After completing graduation there are many people who do not find their suitable job which force them to remain unemployed. If we think that a person who graduated means he is rich then we are wrong because not all students who complete graduation can find proper job which makes them either unemployed or tutoring. A student who completes graduation does not choose tutoring as a career as a meritocracy but rather they choose this tutoring as their career under compulsion. Out of the number of students who complete their graduation every year, 20 to 30% students may get job opportunities and the remaining 70% students remain unemployed.
In a 1st class country it is possible for a degree to fetch one a good paying job that would be able to sustain his/her needs, but it's quite difficult for graduates that's are in an under developed country to secure good paying jobs that could earn them a living, I think that's why most of the graduates living in such societies are poor or could barely live the life deserving of their certificates.

 Now that's where handwork/skills come in, a graduate with a good skill would not relax when they're unemployed but would rather use the skills they've acquired to earn a living, it's good for post graduates that fall in such societies where there are little or no opportunities to secure a good paying job, to have a back up plan which is (Skill Acquisition) like I said earlier a graduate with a good skill won't sit back and settle for unemployment when they got something that could fetch them an income.

 Well I don't know if the numbers are right, but I bet the 30% who would be able to secure a good job are those who merit them by securing good grades or have good connections to secure a job, but that still doesn't mean the remaining 70% would sit back and settle for unemployment. Sometimes if opportunities doesn't come your way, you create one for yourself and how would they do that by acquiring good skills or learn a trade which in return could make them wealthy. And if they succeed there's a possibility they could end up being employers of other graduates.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: ndutndut on March 16, 2024, 10:13:47 AM
First of all, it must be acknowledged that education is very important in life, with education it will make someone able to think more broadly and act well. The problem of rich and poor is a nature that occurs naturally. So how can someone be considered rich? I don't think an educated person will suffer a very bad fate, but at least he will be useful even if he only gets a relatively average job. So I don't agree if people compare something that is irrelevant and education has nothing to do with the fate of being rich or poor.
Yes agree with you. Education is not important if the goal is only a diploma. However, education shapes a person's mindset through the knowledge gained and the environment. In essence, school may not be important, because we not only need concepts in learning something, but the application, including support. Because education can be found anywhere, including the environment that can shape a person's character and personality.

However, if we look at the progress of today's times and civilization, school has become a means and opportunity to find work. And most importantly, when studying lessons at school, we are the ones who play an important role in applying the knowledge we gain so that we can apply it in everyday life and get a job according to our abilities. If we fail, it means we can't accept lessons easily and don't want to work hard. Rich or poor depends on each of our intentions and hard work, and having an education will be much better.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 23, 2024, 01:23:40 PM
There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.
These things drive wealth? Or are you trying to say that these things are important to allow a person to make wealth?

Education will get your the degree but the skills are important, if the person is passionate about that they will excel in it with the proper education and the required skills. Having the above qualities will further allow them to run it for the long term and become successful their way of living.

Also the big names in tech and all maybe dropped education, but they are exceptions and thus should not be taken as the rule.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TEBTC on March 23, 2024, 03:11:25 PM
Education is just you going to school and being trained in a field for you to become a expect in any area of interest
So any one who did not go to a formal school to be a educated and given a certificate of attendance but have educated him/ her self in a skill or productive venture and start making money
Infact in my opinion the person who has used four years in learning trade or skill is equal to the graduate who also used four years going to the University
Education is not the key to success because your not thought how to make money in school but your being thought theories that sometimes you may not even use after school


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hispo on March 24, 2024, 01:31:53 PM
There are many factors that drive wealth such as education, character, information, energy to do, passion, perverance, endurance, patience, skills, opportunity and consistency in ideas that will bring positive impact and value to the society.
These things drive wealth? Or are you trying to say that these things are important to allow a person to make wealth?

Education will get your the degree but the skills are important, if the person is passionate about that they will excel in it with the proper education and the required skills. Having the above qualities will further allow them to run it for the long term and become successful their way of living.

Also the big names in tech and all maybe dropped education, but they are exceptions and thus should not be taken as the rule.

You know. I have been following some left wing independent media outlets and they have lately talked about the myth of wealth creation of those who have managed to become rich in previous years and those who have managed to do it recently. It is true there have been some people who worked their hard way towards becoming successful company owners, completely from the ground up. But those left media outlets say most of the current billionaires and millionaires are done because of the inheritance they get from their parents, they did not actually have to work for what they have.

Education and discipline surely helps to live a life with dignity, but does not mean one is going to be a millionaire anytime soon.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: viananda2525 on March 24, 2024, 03:10:38 PM
Education is just you going to school and being trained in a field for you to become a expect in any area of interest
So any one who did not go to a formal school to be a educated and given a certificate of attendance but have educated him/ her self in a skill or productive venture and start making money
Infact in my opinion the person who has used four years in learning trade or skill is equal to the graduate who also used four years going to the University
Education is not the key to success because your not thought how to make money in school but your being thought theories that sometimes you may not even use after school
In essence, going to school or even college certainly does not guarantee that someone will become rich, but by being educated, someone is already good at reading, calculating and writing so that they are able to master the world in a fundamental way, after that, if someone goes to university then there character is formed and it makes us become a scientist thanks to the theory and practice provided by the lecturer. So it must be admitted that even though we have taken a higher level of education, we do not necessarily become rich, but the opportunity to achieve our dreams is also more open if we have studied.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Gormicsta on March 26, 2024, 02:56:19 PM
Sure thing! I believe one of the most essential things to remember is that your degree does not determine who you are. While it may be a useful starting stone, it is not the only aspect that counts. Your talents, perspective, and will to continue learning and improving are all equally crucial. Even those with degrees and formal educations frequently need to learn new things during their careers. New technologies, shifting trends, and growing sectors all require lifelong learning to be relevant and competitive in today's society. In reality, specialists believe that the half-life of knowledge is decreasing, which means that the information we gain today may only be useful for a few years. This emphasizes the need of cultivating a curious and adaptable mentality.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: WatChe on March 26, 2024, 03:19:41 PM
Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.

A college or university degree is necessary for government job but in private sector jobs skills are the focus rather then degrees. These days trends are changing frequently and what we learn during our graduation is how to adopt with changing trends. Like most of us graduated even before Bitcoin was launched but we have sound knowledge of it since we can use our basic knowledge to explore this new technology. If you don't go for college degree and just master a skill instead then you won't be able to adopt to upcoming new technologies. 


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dunamisx on March 26, 2024, 04:13:50 PM
What make people rich is their idea and solution they had to a problem and not their qualification, i graduate who cannot drive a car, repair a device or even perform a crucial task that will serve as a solution in tackling against any problem, his certificate without physical experience is nothing, people employ who can delivers, that is why it is very important to develop a personal skill upon the educational qualification we are having in other to broadens our opportunity chances for better things in life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Moreno233 on March 26, 2024, 07:43:46 PM
Is there anywhere it is stated that being a graduate is the key of being wealthy? I have not found this anywhere apart from the old days norm of thinking that life was all about graduating from school and be gainfully employed. This mindset made many graduates unemployable because their knowledge is so limited and their thinking distorted. 

Being a graduate does not guarantee that one will be wealthy and most of the wealthiest people I know only attended university after they are already rich. They built their wealth through businesses they started without the knowledge of formal education. Education only exposes the individual to the opportunities, help you with the skill and wisdom to recognize and manage the opportunities but it does not guarantee that the individual will be wealthy. Being wealthy is a combination of many factors and university education is just a part of it.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fatunad on March 26, 2024, 07:59:18 PM
Agree. Graduation is a different matter, it indicates that he has studied. so that graduation can bring you closer to possible success. To be successful you have to go through college, this is also not certain. There are many paths to success, one of which is graduation. In a more global context, the meaning of success itself is too broad, it is not always money, a doctor who chooses to serve in a remote area, lives simply, can benefit other people with his knowledge, this could also be wealth for them in their life journey.

But on the other hand, I also really agree with art/design or programming jobs, because they learn without having formal education or having graduated but can still be self-taught. because currently there are lots of them scattered on YouTube, Udemy, Coursera, etc., especially in the digital era like now. But there are some jobs that I think require at least some appropriate formal education, especially in healthcare or engineering for safety reasons. However, of all things, the most basic thing to achieve success is hard work and not giving up easily.

A college or university degree is necessary for government job but in private sector jobs skills are the focus rather then degrees. These days trends are changing frequently and what we learn during our graduation is how to adopt with changing trends. Like most of us graduated even before Bitcoin was launched but we have sound knowledge of it since we can use our basic knowledge to explore this new technology. If you don't go for college degree and just master a skill instead then you won't be able to adopt to upcoming new technologies. 
Here in our country on which it is really that something that would be the same in speaking about qualifications on which the requirement would really be high degree holder on which having no education or degree
would really be put you up in the end of the line and this is why it would really be something that you would be needed for you to be able to live and this is why it would really be better that you should be considering on finishing up your studies before tending to dive into other ventures on which we know that getting a day job is already that a tough challenge then how much more if you cant be able to make yourself
landing a job and tending to have a business or investment. How you would do that?

You would really be needing to have a good start up and would be having that slow climbing up to the top but of course you should set realistic goals and targets in life.
Dont rush up yourself and doing things slowly.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 27, 2024, 05:44:24 PM
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ahh, who says getting degrees can make any person wealthy no it's a big lie as until we don't have skills that we can implement to make money we stay poor even if we have many degrees. let's say one person is doing Bs in Computer Science but he has no grip on any programming language so his degree is just a piece of paper for him until he is not learning at demanded programming language his degree will never return him any reward. I don't mean to say that we should not focus on only getting a degree but we should also focus on getting a grip on programming skills so that at the end of the day we can see the real value of the degree we have got.

Besides this Some also think that getting high grades will also help to make them successful person in life haha it is also a thing out of reality. well, Let's suppose one is getting high grades in education and one has a good grip on his skill what do you think which one is better? the one who has a good grip on skills so this is the best thing if we focus on getting a good grip along the degree we are doing. That's all.




Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: milewilda on March 27, 2024, 09:24:02 PM
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ahh, who says getting degrees can make any person wealthy no it's a big lie as until we don't have skills that we can implement to make money we stay poor even if we have many degrees. let's say one person is doing Bs in Computer Science but he has no grip on any programming language so his degree is just a piece of paper for him until he is not learning at demanded programming language his degree will never return him any reward. I don't mean to say that we should not focus on only getting a degree but we should also focus on getting a grip on programming skills so that at the end of the day we can see the real value of the degree we have got.

Besides this Some also think that getting high grades will also help to make them successful person in life haha it is also a thing out of reality. well, Let's suppose one is getting high grades in education and one has a good grip on his skill what do you think which one is better? the one who has a good grip on skills so this is the best thing if we focus on getting a good grip along the degree we are doing. That's all.



If we do try to look the unemployment rate of each country then there would really be significant percentages on how many people or graduates who had been ended up on getting unemployed on the time that they do graduated which it did really just that prove out that this isnt something a guarantee that it would really be making you wealthy. Come to see and think that there are even to those graduates who had ended up into those works or jobs that it isnt really that getting in line with their course or interest but since they dont really have any options then they would really be needing to dive in despite of having that less interest but
since they dont really have that choice and this is why they would really be that trying to deal on it temporarily.

This is why on the time that you do graduated then on the time that you do get some job then it would be wise that you should really be looking for some other path to take like investment or business
so that if you do have plans on having that better life in terms of money or financial then this step is something that could bring out or give that kind of chance but
of course its not something guaranteed but at least you do took up some shot.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: RockBell on March 27, 2024, 11:11:06 PM
What make people rich is their idea and solution they had to a problem and not their qualification, i graduate who cannot drive a car, repair a device or even perform a crucial task that will serve as a solution in tackling against any problem, his certificate without physical experience is nothing, people employ who can delivers, that is why it is very important to develop a personal skill upon the educational qualification we are having in other to broadens our opportunity chances for better things in life.
People grow rich in various ways. If anybody still intends to get wealthy through education, that person has a lot to learn because things have changed. Educated individuals are growing too numerous, and few are truly using themselves well. Making money off of their ideas, and what irritates me is that they prefer to work rather than be their own boss. And that is how people make money: they obtain solutions and get paid for delivering them. But we don't want to think outside of the box. And, while not everyone will become wealthy, there is a method for us to keep ourselves active while still earning money. In addition to what you said even with our educational qualification we should find a way of learning a skill. After that qualification you need a job to sustain your self. Or like wise the skill depends on the one your doing. Staying idle waiting for a white coat job is not the best.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: ringgo96 on March 27, 2024, 11:11:16 PM
What make people rich is their idea and solution they had to a problem and not their qualification, i graduate who cannot drive a car, repair a device or even perform a crucial task that will serve as a solution in tackling against any problem, his certificate without physical experience is nothing, people employ who can delivers, that is why it is very important to develop a personal skill upon the educational qualification we are having in other to broadens our opportunity chances for better things in life.
For me graduates are not the key to becoming rich, because currently there are so many graduates who are unemployed because they don't develop skills in their respective fields, and the ones who become entrepreneurs nowadays are mostly people who don't have a university diploma, so everyone it depends on convincing each of us and being willing to try to find change.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 28, 2024, 03:04:24 AM
What make people rich is their idea and solution they had to a problem and not their qualification, i graduate who cannot drive a car, repair a device or even perform a crucial task that will serve as a solution in tackling against any problem, his certificate without physical experience is nothing, people employ who can delivers, that is why it is very important to develop a personal skill upon the educational qualification we are having in other to broadens our opportunity chances for better things in life.
For me graduates are not the key to becoming rich, because currently there are so many graduates who are unemployed because they don't develop skills in their respective fields, and the ones who become entrepreneurs nowadays are mostly people who don't have a university diploma, so everyone it depends on convincing each of us and being willing to try to find change.
arguably, having good degree increase the odds of success, personally though I believe that if you want to start a business having degree means you're reliable in the eyes of investor, i mean its different if its small business where you can start it up using your own capital but talking about big business with series of funding round definitely necessary to have a degree even more so thats coming from ivy league.
I don't believe you will get much credibility starting out a business without a degree, some people link degree with trust and reputation so there's that.
but sure its not the key to become rich considering there are simply too many graduates right now that it simply become the norm to have at least bachelor degree.
but at least it gives us opportunity like most other people are having because having no degree nowadays means you're outlier and missing out big time on many opportunities.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: boty on March 29, 2024, 10:50:20 AM
arguably, having good degree increase the odds of success, personally though I believe that if you want to start a business having degree means you're reliable in the eyes of investor, i mean its different if its small business where you can start it up using your own capital but talking about big business with series of funding round definitely necessary to have a degree even more so thats coming from ivy league.
I don't believe you will get much credibility starting out a business without a degree, some people link degree with trust and reputation so there's that.
but sure its not the key to become rich considering there are simply too many graduates right now that it simply become the norm to have at least bachelor degree.
but at least it gives us opportunity like most other people are having because having no degree nowadays means you're outlier and missing out big time on many opportunities.
When someone starts their business with an educational history, of course they will be able to find relationships that will be able to make the business we run have good potential for the future, but this really depends on the business we are going to build, as you said if we build For small businesses, of course we only need capital that is appropriate for the business we are going to build.
Having a bachelor's degree will of course give us good opportunities in anything if we can do it according to the abilities we have and I agree with you that if we don't currently have a bachelor's degree, of course we are behind the times and we have missed many opportunities.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Antotena on March 29, 2024, 02:03:20 PM
A college or university degree is necessary for government job but in private sector jobs skills are the focus rather then degrees. These days trends are changing frequently and what we learn during our graduation is how to adopt with changing trends. Like most of us graduated even before Bitcoin was launched but we have sound knowledge of it since we can use our basic knowledge to explore this new technology. If you don't go for college degree and just master a skill instead then you won't be able to adopt to upcoming new technologies. 

A college or university degree is not just to be used for government jobs, in fact many companies require many more of degree than the government because in some descipline, you just need a degree to survive the competition like the engineering descipline, the banking sector, the industrial companies and many more but skills is something both a graduate and non graduate need to acquire, you can add it a supplement to your cv when looking got a work and it will help as an advantage.

A person who has a college degree will be the last to consider than a person who has a college degree with a skills because in school, what teach you is theoretical but in job, you do practical. This is what they don't tell many people in schools, it's funny how you see a person with all the degrees but doesn't understand how to use a Microsoft word and Microsoft excel skills, these are the basics skills that matter.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: WatChe on March 29, 2024, 05:18:07 PM
A college or university degree is not just to be used for government jobs, in fact many companies require many more of degree than the government because in some descipline, you just need a degree to survive the competition like the engineering descipline, the banking sector, the industrial companies and many more but skills is something both a graduate and non graduate need to acquire, you can add it a supplement to your cv when looking got a work and it will help as an advantage.

A person who has a college degree will be the last to consider than a person who has a college degree with a skills because in school, what teach you is theoretical but in job, you do practical. This is what they don't tell many people in schools, it's funny how you see a person with all the degrees but doesn't understand how to use a Microsoft word and Microsoft excel skills, these are the basics skills that matter.

No one is denying that college degree is must for corporate sectors like banks, industries and others. We live today in an interconnected world where everyone is free to communicate with rest of the world. Today we have freelance industry where large number of people are working remotely and they are boss of there own. There is no requirement of college degree if you are planning to move to such sectors but for other sectors which you mentioned - a college degree is must. 


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on March 30, 2024, 09:52:14 AM
When someone starts their business with an educational history, of course they will be able to find relationships that will be able to make the business we run have good potential for the future, but this really depends on the business we are going to build, as you said if we build For small businesses, of course we only need capital that is appropriate for the business we are going to build.
Having a bachelor's degree will of course give us good opportunities in anything if we can do it according to the abilities we have and I agree with you that if we don't currently have a bachelor's degree, of course we are behind the times and we have missed many opportunities.
definitely, there's just simply too much thing to be missed if we don't pursue education at least having bachelor degree is already sufficient enough no need to get master degree and so on it already gives us opportunity that we never have before, even more so if we are coming from reputable university thats a huge plus point that boost our credibility seeking job would be easy if we are trying to build career as an employee.
regardless doesn't mean that people that doesn't have any degree won't survive they will but with so much limitation, if anyone interested to take on the challange feel free to take it head on, but just know that having proper education does help a lot if you ever feel to live easier life.

For me graduates are not the key to becoming rich, because currently there are so many graduates who are unemployed because they don't develop skills in their respective fields, and the ones who become entrepreneurs nowadays are mostly people who don't have a university diploma, so everyone it depends on convincing each of us and being willing to try to find change.
depends on the scale of entrepreneur that such person is building if its great scale talking about multi million dollar and beyond, degree might do good, at least to raise funding.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Hyphen(-) on March 30, 2024, 10:10:42 AM
For me graduates are not the key to becoming rich, because currently there are so many graduates who are unemployed because they don't develop skills in their respective fields, and the ones who become entrepreneurs nowadays are mostly people who don't have a university diploma, so everyone it depends on convincing each of us and being willing to try to find change.
In developed countries, it’s even better because some students will be having good practicals before they graduate and will secure job immediately after graduating from school. While in under developed countries, your degree cannot guarantee you a good paying job, in fact, a craftsman is even better since they can use their experience to earn a leaving, and if you have good skills and some creativities, you can use them and drop your degree certificate for future purposes.

There is no doubt that education is important, and it is a good factor that helps in developing countries, but having a degree cannot guarantee you a good job, you need extra skills to survive that is why young guys are venturing into tech.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: lienfaye on March 30, 2024, 10:30:45 AM
A person who has a college degree will be the last to consider than a person who has a college degree with a skills because in school, what teach you is theoretical but in job, you do practical. This is what they don't tell many people in schools, it's funny how you see a person with all the degrees but doesn't understand how to use a Microsoft word and Microsoft excel skills, these are the basics skills that matter.
Indeed. A degree is necessary, however if you don't have the skills that the company is looking for to their applicants, then there's a low chance that you'll get hired. But it doesn't mean education is not the priority, because nowadays it is still crucial for people to be able to land for a better job. It's just that, you have to use what you learned to gain a specific skills that you can use to gain.

Education is not sufficient to become wealthy, it's just a stepping stone. It is still depends on us on how we're going to use these learnings to acquire skills for our own benefit for long term.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: TheUltraElite on April 12, 2024, 03:14:45 PM
There is no requirement of college degree if you are planning to move to such sectors but for other sectors which you mentioned - a college degree is must. 
If you want to get up the corporate ladder, you need to have degrees and have the skills to get your side of work done too. But of course that should not be the end of the game, you should always increase your skillset and learn new skills while honing the old ones and parallelly work on your education. All this might seem difficult but is possible even at increasing age if you have have the passion and determination for the same.

While some entrepreneurs might be school dropouts, most of us dont have the brains for that. So there is no questions of not getting a college degree.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Iroh on April 12, 2024, 04:29:53 PM
For me graduates are not the key to becoming rich, because currently there are so many graduates who are unemployed because they don't develop skills in their respective fields, and the ones who become entrepreneurs nowadays are mostly people who don't have a university diploma, so everyone it depends on convincing each of us and being willing to try to find change.

Having a college education isn’t necessarily the key to becoming wealthy in life but then, you won’t deny that having a college degree gives you an edge over a high school diploma in the job market. It shows having a college degree is important nevertheless.
No doubt, there are people who have managed to start up and successfully manage a business without having a college education. Those businesses would be small businesses and later on, you’ll fine the owner of the business going back to college to learn a thing or two to earn a degree.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dewi Aries on April 12, 2024, 04:54:48 PM
A diploma is just a sign that someone has studied but not a sign that someone has thought, and it is actually a fact that no matter how high your education is, education can never be used as a benchmark for achieving financial success, and we can see that there are quite a lot of people who only graduated from elementary school but they managed to achieve wealth by having many businesses. This means that education is not a guarantee of success but education is nothing but something that can make it easier for you in terms of making money.

As we know that most companies now make education a requirement for applying for a job which means that having a higher education will help make it easier for you to find a job but in no way can guarantee you to be able to achieve success, and the difference with people who are not educated is in terms of knowledge, but isn't success not achievable if you only have knowledge? of course, meaning that the success achieved by uneducated people is because they have strong intentions and determination along with having a hardworking mentality and good consistency in terms of pursuing their dreams even though they basically initially have limitations in terms of knowledge and insight, because it is useless even though you have knowledge if for example all of that is not accompanied by action and hard work. This means that everyone has the same opportunity to succeed but perhaps with a different process regardless of whether they are educated or not.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Bravut on April 12, 2024, 09:28:00 PM
Being a graduate one can only say you are a literate but doesn't guarantee you will be wealthy in anyway. In our society they have made school look like a road to financial success which is far from reality.
School can only give you the edge above others in a job pursuit.

As a graduate it only qualifies you in the society not in a financial race, I know some will talk about white collar job and all that, no matter the job offer you have you only live based on your salary and must meet up with the demands of your boss.

In essence you build your wealth, and sort for means that will aid you on the journey. Those who are wealthy have service they render to the public, so build value to be wealthy with your certificate because certificate only make one a worker and doesn't give financial freedom.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: passwordnow on April 12, 2024, 09:37:54 PM
Our success and fate won't be determined by a single degree. But this portrays a big part for the majority of the people because many opportunities shall come to them and there are undergrads that have a better life than of the few graduates because they know how to deal with this life and they're talented and hardworking that they keep on hustling whatever they see with the opportunity that opens on them. What I am noticing in many countries, when you're not able to finish your studies in college, they're going to belittle you as if they've purchased your soul and there's no left for respect and humanity.

I've got a lot of friends that didn't finish studies but they've got a better life and business than of those that have finished studies and relied mostly to their jobs. The reality of this world is that its shape is circle and connecting this with life, life is also circle and we don't know if we're at the top of the wheel or soon we're going to be at the bottom of it. The main point is to be humble at all times, regardless of what you achieve and what your status is now and in the future.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Jatiluhung on April 12, 2024, 09:44:37 PM
Educational background is only one of the many important assets we need for life. And just having a good educational background won't help too much, even in today's world of work. Because apart from educational background, we also need patience, perseverance, discipline, hard work and consistency in entering a field. Apart from that, relationships, financial capital and our family background are also sometimes things that we must have in certain countries if we want to easily get a job.

But if it's about achieving success, such as opening your own business, then the important capital apart from education is money and creativity in the business itself. Because currently business competition has become tighter than before. All kinds of businesses in all fields have always existed. and it's just a matter of how we become more creative and more unique and can attract the attention of customers well.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: LesterD on April 12, 2024, 10:12:39 PM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: bangjoe on April 12, 2024, 10:46:24 PM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
Yes, education is not the basis for judging someone to achieve success quickly, but education opens up all these opportunities because we will be trained and educated in terms of mindset and activities to be better at acting, but this actually returns to ourselves in undergoing education because most people who undergo it are not serious and just waste time, therefore there are some people who are educated but poor.

To be honest, if taking education must have relevance to our goals in life, such as wanting to be rich, don't go to political school because it will produce corruptors, why not take a business major, it will be more in line because it will be guided to become an entrepreneur and you can get a lot of business contacts, things like this must be dealt with from the start before deciding to continue your education.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on April 12, 2024, 10:57:22 PM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life.
I agree but it is a common ticket to become successful in a career.

It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life.
This is it. Those that are starters, this is where they can start with and capitalize the diploma and the studies that they've done over long the years that they've dedicated learning. It's a way but it might not guarantee a person's success but at least, it won't be taken away from you.

It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
As someone graduates, the life that he's going to work on depends on how good he is and strategic you are as a person. With or without studies, someone can be successful and people might say life is unfair, which can be true sometimes but this is one good comparison of it to say that life is fair.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Albarq on April 12, 2024, 11:18:50 PM
Indeed, formal education does not guarantee you success. At this time, you need clearer skills and today to catch up with your learning and it is mandatory that you have to do it from today. It is indeed difficult to understand considering that there are many graduates now, so the competition is tighter and people's minds are different, so graduation is not a mainstay, including the environment we live in, it can have a much bigger influence and our own mindset of wanting to be more advanced is the basis for success. With graduation, there are no suitable job opportunities for us to do, which can also hinder success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 12, 2024, 11:48:52 PM
Indeed, formal education does not guarantee you success. At this time, you need clearer skills and today to catch up with your learning and it is mandatory that you have to do it from today. It is indeed difficult to understand considering that there are many graduates now, so the competition is tighter and people's minds are different, so graduation is not a mainstay, including the environment we live in, it can have a much bigger influence and our own mindset of wanting to be more advanced is the basis for success. With graduation, there are no suitable job opportunities for us to do, which can also hinder success.


It is sometimes how you market yourself and how you find ways to use your skills into action to generate good income. Also, if you are just starting, don't be so choosy with the job. You need experience and skills. While honing your skills, that's when you can search for better opportunities and you can also improve your skills by taking some extra classes, whether online or actual courses. Don't stop learning as it will give you edge among your competitors.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Churchillvv on April 13, 2024, 12:42:04 AM
Basically, education is not the key to success but it's one of the key to success.

Long term ago when it was still the era of education where after graduation you will have to get a job and be considered a successful man or woman that's when education was very necessary for everyone.

In this current generation you only need education of only the area of which you which to venture into requires it hence one can just be focused in any area of their choice and learn from there hence become successful in the business.

Another thing I have observed is that a lot of people have misconception of education, although the meaning of education is learning something new but we considered it to be high institution learning rather learning in general. If it's considered education generally then it's very very important to be successful.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Yukyzu on April 13, 2024, 12:55:44 AM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
Education cannot guarantee that someone will be successful in living their life, because some of those who have completed their education do not necessarily have the knowledge they have gained at school that they can apply in their lives, so it is difficult for them to have a job after completing their education, indeed It's true that education is only the first stage for everyone to be able to live their life without experiencing difficulties in finding work, but there are some people who don't have a school education but they can still be successful in their lives with the experience they have that can give them an income.
Continuing to try to be better than yesterday, of course this will lead us to achieve the success we are targeting and we also have to be able to see every opportunity that exists and be able to take advantage of it in order to achieve success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: angrybirdy on April 13, 2024, 03:04:24 AM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
Education cannot guarantee that someone will be successful in living their life, because some of those who have completed their education do not necessarily have the knowledge they have gained at school that they can apply in their lives, so it is difficult for them to have a job after completing their education, indeed It's true that education is only the first stage for everyone to be able to live their life without experiencing difficulties in finding work, but there are some people who don't have a school education but they can still be successful in their lives with the experience they have that can give them an income.
Continuing to try to be better than yesterday, of course this will lead us to achieve the success we are targeting and we also have to be able to see every opportunity that exists and be able to take advantage of it in order to achieve success.

exactly! not everyone who finished school learned something in school, others were forced to graduate. having a diploma is a big advantage in career growth, it's up to the person how they carry themselves once they have finished their studies. We can't recommend to others not to continue studying just because you can still get rich even without a degree as long as you have a strategy in life, education is also important so that other people don't underestimate you, especially most of the people today are looking at the state of life and what you have completed in school.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: topbitcoin on April 13, 2024, 07:35:12 PM
Basically, education is not the key to success but it's one of the key to success.

Long term ago when it was still the era of education where after graduation you will have to get a job and be considered a successful man or woman that's when education was very necessary for everyone.

In this current generation you only need education of only the area of which you which to venture into requires it hence one can just be focused in any area of their choice and learn from there hence become successful in the business.

Another thing I have observed is that a lot of people have misconception of education, although the meaning of education is learning something new but we considered it to be high institution learning rather learning in general. If it's considered education generally then it's very very important to be successful.

When we dive into lower society, don't expect them to understand enough about education. When you graduate from college and return to society, they will never ask what major you took during college, because they will assume that the graduate is a versatile person who knows everything. and they often assume that those who graduate from college and get a bachelor's degree are someone who has a decent job in an agency and has a high income. And I personally have experienced this, where when I had graduated a few months and returned home, I received questions from the community about where I work and the wages I get every month, and when they found out that the wages I got were much smaller than with those who didn't go to college, that's where my patience started to be tested, I received ridicule from them and they even thought that education was useless. I can't close the mouths of those who continue to ridicule me, other than closing my ears tightly, and trying to keep moving forward in order to achieve success.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Dewi Aries on April 13, 2024, 07:39:36 PM

Education cannot guarantee that someone will be successful in living their life, because some of those who have completed their education do not necessarily have the knowledge they have gained at school that they can apply in their lives, so it is difficult for them to have a job after completing their education, indeed It's true that education is only the first stage for everyone to be able to live their life without experiencing difficulties in finding work, but there are some people who don't have a school education but they can still be successful in their lives with the experience they have that can give them an income.
Continuing to try to be better than yesterday, of course this will lead us to achieve the success we are targeting and we also have to be able to see every opportunity that exists and be able to take advantage of it in order to achieve success.

exactly! not everyone who finished school learned something in school, others were forced to graduate. having a diploma is a big advantage in career growth, it's up to the person how they carry themselves once they have finished their studies. We can't recommend to others not to continue studying just because you can still get rich even without a degree as long as you have a strategy in life, education is also important so that other people don't underestimate you, especially most of the people today are looking at the state of life and what you have completed in school.

This means that a diploma is just a sign that someone has been to school but not a sign that someone has thought! And I will say that a diploma is something that can help you in terms of finding a job but sometimes a diploma is very likely to be useless when you can't think at all while you are in school, or in the sense that you don't really study so in the end you only get a diploma but do not get the knowledge or skills that are taught in school. This is why there are always people who are educated but they are unemployed, it is because they only have a diploma but do not have the skills needed by every company they apply to, but for the problem of building a personal business it is another thing.

Basically we cannot underestimate education because after all education is something important for everyone where education can give you a lot of knowledge and insight (if you study properly), but on the other hand is education not a guarantee of success? of course, education is only a complement or something that can give you knowledge, knowledge and insight, but everything returns to yourself, because success will only be achieved if you take a lot of action, but if for example you only dream without being accompanied by effort and hard work then no matter how high your education in the end it will be useless and will only become ashes.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Churchillvv on April 13, 2024, 09:07:31 PM
Basically, education is not the key to success but it's one of the key to success.

Long term ago when it was still the era of education where after graduation you will have to get a job and be considered a successful man or woman that's when education was very necessary for everyone.

In this current generation you only need education of only the area of which you which to venture into requires it hence one can just be focused in any area of their choice and learn from there hence become successful in the business.

Another thing I have observed is that a lot of people have misconception of education, although the meaning of education is learning something new but we considered it to be high institution learning rather learning in general. If it's considered education generally then it's very very important to be successful.

When we dive into lower society, don't expect them to understand enough about education. When you graduate from college and return to society, they will never ask what major you took during college, because they will assume that the graduate is a versatile person who knows everything. and they often assume that those who graduate from college and get a bachelor's degree are someone who has a decent job in an agency and has a high income. And I personally have experienced this, where when I had graduated a few months and returned home, I received questions from the community about where I work and the wages I get every month, and when they found out that the wages I got were much smaller than with those who didn't go to college, that's where my patience started to be tested, I received ridicule from them and they even thought that education was useless. I can't close the mouths of those who continue to ridicule me, other than closing my ears tightly, and trying to keep moving forward in order to achieve success.
This kind of experience of yours is a good example of why education shouldn't be the primary aim if it's not required for the part which you choose in life.

I have seen a lot of graduates out there without a job, the response they get from the society out there is very terrible but the problem doesn't end there, if they stay without a well paid job for a long time it will lead to depression. And it was almost the same situation with you, but the difference is that you decided not to give an ear to such response.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 13, 2024, 11:52:32 PM
~but there are some people who don't have a school education but they can still be successful in their lives with the experience they have that can give them an income.
Continuing to try to be better than yesterday, of course this will lead us to achieve the success we are targeting and we also have to be able to see every opportunity that exists and be able to take advantage of it in order to achieve success.
It's not very uncommon to hear about that kind of situation where someone who's an undergraduate but still able to be successful in life. The thing is people such as those are the ones who know how to market themselves, either have the skill to communicate better than any of those people who have diplomas or can show more confidence that most of the time needed especially in the corporate world.

It's all about how we apply what we learn in life, not solely the learnings we get in school because not everything we learn at school is useful in life. It is still up to us whether we will use that education to become a better person, or just like above, if you don't finish your education, it's up to how you level up yourself to achieve the needs to start the journey to become successful in life.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: poodle63 on April 14, 2024, 01:41:27 PM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
there are so many people that thinks the world owes them and they will get job automatically after graduating thats definitely not gonna happen, earth populated with billions of human among those billions hundred of millions must be alot more better than us therefore we are nothing special and how to be in the top 1% by working hard and keep improving our skills if we are taking the career path or if we are more into entrepreneur we should strive harder in building the business, having a degree is good for us as basic starter but nothing more than.
therefore the whole idea that graduating from the university will instantly change our life around is definitely just an empty words.
just like how we are building wealth there's just simply no shortcuts unless we happen to graduate from the most prestigious university there is maybe we will have privilege to have smooth career path.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: bestcoins1 on April 14, 2024, 03:40:44 PM
This kind of experience of yours is a good example of why education shouldn't be the primary aim if it's not required for the part which you choose in life.
I see a lot of graduates out there who don't have a job, the response they get from society out there is very bad but the problem doesn't stop there, if they stay for a long time without a high-paying job it will result in depression. And the situation is almost the same as yours, but the difference is that you decided not to listen to such responses.

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I have seen a lot of graduates out there without a job, the response they get from the society out there is very terrible but the problem doesn't end there, if they stay without a well paid job for a long time it will lead to depression. And it was almost the same situation with you, but the difference is that you decided not to give an ear to such response.
Because pursuing higher education does not actually make it easier for someone to get a job, but it should make it easier for someone to create jobs for themselves and also for other people who don't have permanent jobs. However, there are still quite a few people like that in my area because most of them are still hampered by the financial capabilities they need to generate employment opportunities. So things like that are sometimes very sad because many people have to stop their own intentions and choose to look for work from other people.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fortify on April 14, 2024, 06:55:42 PM
First off, I must say that Education is very good and i don't dispute the fact that it's very vital and necessary for human development, it can put you in a position to be successful no doubt but being a graduate is not a 100% guarantee for one to be very wealthy, one can be very sound academically but lack some basic skills of acquiring wealth. Also one can still have some good knowledge of certain skills but if there's no zeal or self confidence in earning a living through it then your education on those skills can be said to be a waste since you ain't making effort to earn from it.

 Also I've heard several people complain about having good grades, being 1st class graduates but find it difficult to secure good paying jobs, imagine someone struggling to achieve good grades in the university but find it difficult to earn a living and at the end settle for minor jobs while there are many dropouts with good skillsets as well as being creative and think outside the box, and are bosses of big organisations and companies.

 Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.

The education machine in many countries has been infected by the constant corporate pressure to monetize every single aspect of peoples lives. There is always going to be a degree of money management required in the education system, but we may be seeing the balance tipping towards making colleges and universities more about profit generation than only seeking the best needs for the younger generations to learn from. Of course in this market salaries will be competitive at the top end, like any work environment, so there is always going to be competition for the best teachers and resources which requires raising money, but it puts such a heavy burden on the youngest minds that can be a very bad way to start in life - may more research needs to be done on that cost benefit analysis.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: topbitcoin on April 14, 2024, 07:28:02 PM
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This kind of experience of yours is a good example of why education shouldn't be the primary aim if it's not required for the part which you choose in life.

I have seen a lot of graduates out there without a job, the response they get from the society out there is very terrible but the problem doesn't end there, if they stay without a well paid job for a long time it will lead to depression. And it was almost the same situation with you, but the difference is that you decided not to give an ear to such response.

I don't care about their sarcasm, I consider it to be the wind. They contribute absolutely nothing to my life, so why should I care what they say. It would be better if I continued to focus on the plan I had made beforehand. Responding to their words will only waste the precious time we have, responding to their words is the same as solving unnecessary problems. Because the best way to silence their mouths is to prove the success we have achieved through the path we have chosen.

It's not very uncommon to hear about that kind of situation where someone who's an undergraduate but still able to be successful in life. The thing is people such as those are the ones who know how to market themselves, either have the skill to communicate better than any of those people who have diplomas or can show more confidence that most of the time needed especially in the corporate world.

It's all about how we apply what we learn in life, not solely the learnings we get in school because not everything we learn at school is useful in life. It is still up to us whether we will use that education to become a better person, or just like above, if you don't finish your education, it's up to how you level up yourself to achieve the needs to start the journey to become successful in life.

Non-academic skills are very important for us to master, because sometimes the reality that occurs in the field is very different from what we learn during college. Although all the knowledge we gain at school is not always practical for our real life, it is important that we put that education into use and utilize it in our day-to-day lives. In this sense, the decision of whether to use education as a means of self-development, or even if we haven't completed any formal education, one can still improve oneself and succeed in achieving his/her goals, lies entirely with us. The point here is to be eager enough and have the diligence to keep learning and developing as a person.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: erep on April 14, 2024, 10:20:29 PM
I don't care about their sarcasm, I consider it to be the wind. They contribute absolutely nothing to my life, so why should I care what they say. It would be better if I continued to focus on the plan I had made beforehand. Responding to their words will only waste the precious time we have, responding to their words is the same as solving unnecessary problems. Because the best way to silence their mouths is to prove the success we have achieved through the path we have chosen.
We don't have to debate anything with other people and they just need proof that we can rise to prove we can be successful even though we don't have to be highly educated, don't waste your time convincing them because we can be successful in jobs that suit our skills and believe me that there are many road to Rome, focus on your work and when you are successful they will recognize your skills even though we actually don't need their recognition.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Baki202 on April 17, 2024, 06:39:04 AM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.


Those that attend schools tend to be poor How many educated individuals are aware that the wealthy are not even well educated, despite their propensity for wise investing decisions? In actuality, you must develop yourself. Education is not even important these days. Additionally, you won't have any trouble developing yourself if you have a positive outlook on business. 

You just need to know how to plan and what tactics to utilize if you want to succeed. There are many different ways to make money. You also receive your university degree right away. You must begin planning how you will use your certificate of completion to earn. And because there are more people losing their jobs, that is one of the difficulties individuals are facing. Furthermore, possessing a qualification is not enough. You must alter both your perspective and the way you wish to earn money. Otherwise, your certificate will be worthless.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: gunhell16 on April 17, 2024, 07:01:01 AM
Finishing study is a class of achievements; it can only be tools to enrich our lives if we accompany it with the right strategy. Because if we don't accompany it with a unique strategy,
they will only be able to use what they have completed as employees in a company.

Therefore, having a degree or profession is not the key to becoming rich; it is not like that. It still depends on us how we will do it and use our completed studies.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: moneystery on April 17, 2024, 07:13:33 AM
as you said, education is an important thing, because by having a good enough education a person can have a good opportunity to develop their life for the better in the future. but even so, people who graduate do not necessarily have a better job or life than people who don't graduate, because graduating is just one of many paths to success. and because of this, not everyone who graduates can have a good job, there are also those who are still unemployed, but there are also those who don't have an educational background but have a good business or job because of their skills.

because there are many paths to becoming rich, and becoming a graduate is only one of them and it is not a guarantee.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: coinerer on April 17, 2024, 08:01:37 AM
No skill can be acquired by just reading books and getting a degree and without skills it is foolish to think of getting rich in life.  If you want to run a business you need skills, job skills that you can never get by reading books.  However, it is possible to get a good result by memorizing knowledge by reading books, but it is not easy to be successful using it in real life.  Those who chase degrees only to get a good result can never become rich. those who run for skill should be rich they became rich


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: bakasabo on April 17, 2024, 08:38:14 AM
I would say that everything depends from the person. There are many students who study in universities only to get a diploma in the end, and there are those who study to get knowledge. These two students are completely different when they graduate. Among Russians there are popular jokes, that every McDonalds or fastfood employee has MBA diploma, or students graduate only to get diploma and use it as cutting board or to swing with it to heat up coals when cooking meat on open fire. Diploma, without experience is nothing.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: slapper on April 17, 2024, 03:42:44 PM
as you said, education is an important thing, because by having a good enough education a person can have a good opportunity to develop their life for the better in the future. but even so, people who graduate do not necessarily have a better job or life than people who don't graduate, because graduating is just one of many paths to success. and because of this, not everyone who graduates can have a good job, there are also those who are still unemployed, but there are also those who don't have an educational background but have a good business or job because of their skills.

because there are many paths to becoming rich, and becoming a graduate is only one of them and it is not a guarantee.
Education is crucial, but its no longer a guarantee. We produce graduates who assume their degree guarantees a high-paying ideal job. It doesnt. The world has evolved, but we're following outdated rules. Future economies are beasts that dont care about nice paper. It wants to see if you can hustle, adapt, and handle money in this unpredictable economy. You need creativity and risk-taking

Unfortunately, we're stuck in the past and think a degree makes you successful. Like buying the wrong lottery ticket in hopes of winning large. We must go beyond tradition and teach financial smarts, market movements, and building your own thing. Do college courses teach that? The hell no. These skills provide people a fighting chance in this changing environment. We must change education or risk generations of failure. Lets give them modern tools, not old ones


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SmartCharpa on April 17, 2024, 04:20:40 PM
In my country, their is a saying that goes like this; you must not go to school to be successful, but you have to go to school to be enlightened, education doesn't necessarily guarantee success, but it mostly enlightened you for you to be able to see things differently, but for you to be successful, you have to be able to solves people problem, by rendering service to people in what ever form.

As for me I don't see schooling as a means of being successful, I just sees it as part of the process, that enlightens you, and gives you the ability to have a clear picture of life, but as an individual, you have to have that ability to think out of the box which will definitely make a difference in your life.

I don't know why majority people think that being educated guarantee us to become rich, education is very important in our life, it give us more knowledge and greater understanding about everything. When someone is being educated, they look different among the other people. I don't know your country but that is wise word. In my country, if you ask some young people about school, the answer you will get is that; many graduated students are out there searching for a job, and they are yet to find one, so it is wasting of time being in school because everything about school is money, they don't know that is for our own good. I've strong believe that education will give us a better life in the future, because many individuals who choose not to attend school will reject over their actions.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: SlowPP on April 17, 2024, 04:57:34 PM
People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.

While I won't say what you said is wrong,due to the economic statistics now being a graduated those not matter, because with your degree you won't find a suitable job to sustain yourself and your families,but I don't know why majority of we humans like 90% of us thinks being a graduate you can archive all your goals and become what ever you wanna become in life but the country will leave now isn't about degrees, there are a lot of graduate out there without a Job, rummy around the Street seeking for a job even Worthy 40k a monthly buh is hard to get I feel so heartbroken writing this but I pray our leaders seek to our graduate brothers and sisters out there.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Gaza13 on April 17, 2024, 06:27:47 PM
Finishing your studies is not the key to achieving success in life. It is just the first step that you need to build yourself and help you prepare for the obstacles that may come to your life. It's one of the weapons you can use to fight with the reality in life. Now, once you graduate, it is up to you how you can nourish the things you have learned to improve yourself and become a better person who can bring you success and wealth. Some still fail even after achieving and learning a lot in life, but the key to managing on continuing the journey to be successful and wealthy is to never give up and continue to try again.
It is true, by obtaining a bachelor's degree at college, no one dares to guarantee success. because I think school results give us an understanding of the thought process, The thought process is what actually makes us successful. We must not be satisfied with what we get at school, forming personal character by continuing to learn and improve skills, something new I think we should do, If we don't want to sharpen ourselves with something new, it's like paper that is useless or your diploma will be wasted.






Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: oktana on April 17, 2024, 11:42:21 PM
People say that Being a graduate is the key to being a slave and I kind of understand the point because every graduate goes out to find a job and when they find the job, they are so excited and begin their 9 to 5, and could work the job for years and still not have so much money in savings. If you think about the wealthy people in the world today, they didn’t get there by being a graduate. Being a graduate can lead you to wealth but it isn’t often the case from what I know.

While I won't say what you said is wrong,due to the economic statistics now being a graduated those not matter, because with your degree you won't find a suitable job to sustain yourself and your families,but I don't know why majority of we humans like 90% of us thinks being a graduate you can archive all your goals and become what ever you wanna become in life but the country will leave now isn't about degrees, there are a lot of graduate out there without a Job, rummy around the Street seeking for a job even Worthy 40k a monthly buh is hard to get I feel so heartbroken writing this but I pray our leaders seek to our graduate brothers and sisters out there.

You make a good point. But I am rather coming from a perspective of finding the job but you may still not have enough left when you’re done with expenses and all you need to cater for. I won’t entirely say that the degree won’t find a suitable job because it depends on what niche you are in. For example people in the health sector need the degree a lot. What I mean is that you can’t be a doctor without a degree, same as some other niches too. And unlike programmers who may not need the school degree.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Zanab247 on April 20, 2024, 03:13:53 PM
Being a graduate can create way for you to be wealthy in future but it cannot guarantee you, that you will be wealthy which are some of the  things graduates you see in the streets looking for what to eat and wear in the town because they failed to use their certificate to create way to become a wealthy person.

One thing i know,  it will surely happen to a graduate no matter what he or she is passing through in the community, don't give up because a time will come when you will use your certificate to become a wealthy man or woman that will make people to celebrate you.

 Faith without work is dead according to the holy Bible, being a graduate without going out to search for a job, you will not become a wealthy man because you need to look for your field to start earning money that will change your story.


Title: Re: If being a graduate is the key to being wealthy, why are there poor graduates?
Post by: Fiasem20 on May 13, 2024, 08:15:12 PM
Well it's not basically about being educated or graduating with the best grades that makes you wealthy, it's about determination, being consistent and also persistent cause success and wealth are not achieved in one day or immediately after graduating. In as much as you have good grades, you must still improve your skills, not only job skills, marketing or management skills but your critical thinking and problem solving skills.
Being a graduate is not the key to being wealthy,yeah that's right but also the value of education should be neglected.We know that not all the graduates that came out 1st class are working in an organization/firm that offers them good pay,some even with their qualifications are still wandering and looking for a job like a fugitive.It doesn't matter if your a graduate,the power of acquiring wealth is in your hands if only you are determined and focused.Those wealthy people at the top became rich because they chased their dreams and achieved it.