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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

I believe that's a pure case of gambling addiction because an addict can go to any extent in order to satisfy his gambling desires. The guy knew that he had no money in his pockets but still he continued batting in hope that he might win a round.

He lost all those rounds and all of the bets and when he had no other option to save himself then he might have thought about giving his smart phone to the shop owner. There are so many gamblers who do that, and unfortunately most of them are gambling addicts.

They are influenced by gambling and lose their sanity in making decisions. Loss of control is always a big reason for making wrong decisions. Or to understand it another way, when gamblers begin their mind is filled with the feeling of winning but in reality they fail.

I have also experienced these things, but understand that when I run out of money, I stop playing. If I always won at gambling, I would become the richest person in the universe. IMO, gambling to find fun is similar to listening to music, painting,... so I don't want to make things difficult for myself. It's still the old problem of only spending when you are ready to accept all situations and are aware of the responsibilities of all actions.

Addiction. And that is irresponsible gambling. An addict can gamble in a way that he will lose his gambling budget, that is even if he has a gambling budget because all the money on their wallet and bank account is his gambling budget. He will lose the gambling budget and all the money he has in his bank account and also on wallet. That is why some people will also later begin to borrow money and have nothing to use it for than to also gamble and lose again.

Maybe they are exaggerated so much that on their last bet they could win since maybe they are looking into martingale like situation when they place their bet. This is why we see some of the gamblers got beaten up since there opponents or the place where they gamble got angry on what he do.

So for gamblers much better for them not to follow what the guy did since there are bad consequences on that especially if they don't know the persons behind those gambling den or platform and they will be in danger for trying to bet without having a money to pay. Its mix up addiction and greediness and that person is in worse condition.

Greed is the inciting emotion that leads to the addiction once your neurohormonal chemicals start acting. If you see such things happening it because of the gamblers addiction now manifesting and the one that is controlling them and making them emotional such that it needs involving the proper authorities.

Indeed this is bad and it is why gambling is a social evil if not kept in moderation just like alcohol consumption.

For people visiting a casino once a year to have fun, such events happening can be a nuisance and lead to a bad public image.

Maybe he forgot that he has a house to come home to. :D Just kidding!

IMO, this is one of the cases of gambling addiction. If even the empty pocket cannot stop you from gambling then you have a problem. Mentally.
Obviously, he is chasing his losses but he crossed the line that he will leave his phone just to make the owner think that he will be back to pay. I've seen this before but in a different game. One guy who plays toss coin, (a different kind of version, we call it "kara krus" in the Philippines where we need to throw 3 coins and it should land with 3 same faces, three heads if you are the thrower) the guy who is trying to chase his losses offered his wristwatch first and it's a good watch. Then, when he lost again he put his keys to the floor and said "My motorcycle." I've never seen a game go that far in the years that I was always on the streets, and actually, that's the first and the last. So many people came in and watched how the game would end until he lost all his possessions.

It's sad. How can one person go that far, cross the line, and never think about the people who are waiting for him at home? I bet after that his wife left him in disgust of what he did because there's no way he could get away from that kind of mistake. It's too much that any partner would leave because it's an obvious gambling problem.
It's pure addiction. That ain't greed.

The situation and the part where you are triggered by the things that make you gamble are the problem. Making yourself in a situation that makes it easy for you to gamble (if you are addicted) is the problem.

The attitude and personality would make you prone to that situation where greediness and addiction.

I think I have never made myself or had to stop myself from gambling.

It is a situation of the both, both greed and addiction together. The gambler is a greedy addict. If it is a gambler who is just greedy, they will be gambling and trying to win a very ridiculous amount of money far greater than their bet, but if it is just an addict, they have lost the ability to control themselves. For this gambler to come play virtual games hoping to win, and not having money to even pay, he is a greedy addict. If this gambler can gamble with money he does not have, when he has money, the money will never remain in his hands.  

Well I don't think there's anything else to say here expect that the person we already an addicted and irresponsible gambler. He faked to plan for that day how much in total he would spend on his gambling activities. Unfortunately for him, he taught maybe he could have settled his games by staking his phone instead and pay back if he won the game. That even a worst practice for him.
As a gambler we should always opt to plan ahead of our gambling activities to avoid being caught up in such situations, where we have no funds to pay.
I wonder why the owner didn't stop untime before placing the games for him. Though it won't be his fault initially since he taught he had a worthy customer willing to play that much games.

Ambition, greed and also efforts to recover losses, these are some of the main factors for many gamblers who are willing to bet lot of money and without realizing it, the bet has really exceeded the limits of their abilities or exceeded the limits of the money used.
Obviously this ismistake that has very bad impact but is still made by many gamblers.
Addiction and greed are two different attitudes, but both will have negative influence on each individual continuation in gambling.
Addiction usually makes gamblers spend more money because they are really chasing satisfaction which never stops, greed is an attitude that appears towards gamblers who are unable to receive all the results from betting.
This is all related to finances and anyone who experiences condition like this, it is clear that their finances will never be managed well because there is always desire or decision to risk and deposit money excessively.

Just like other users have given their opinion, it's not greed but addiction to gambling and most of the time what results to this kind of action is when an addicted gambler have incurred too many losses and in the quest to win and maybe recover some of his losses that's where this kind of situation comes up. It's really very unfortunate that a gambler would continue playing despite the fact that he has exhausted the money on him, it's a very shameful and reckless act that's why we keep on advising gamblers of the risk involved in gambling addiction because it would make you take some awkward decisions and live some kind dubious lifestyle that may put them in problems.

Sometimes, I also blame the casino agents because some of them, when they know that you're a regular gambler that comes to play gamble in their office, they always believe that you have the money to pay for your bets thereby they would play games conspicuously for the gambler without demanding for money so before they would realize that the gambler doesn't have money to pay, he must have incurred a huge amount of debt which is very bad of the casino agent because basically, they ought to collect money at every bet they place for a gambler so that even if the gambler would run into debt, the amount wouldn't be that much.

Addiction and a bit of greed too, because from the way that the gambler sounded that very day shows that he is a gamble addict or on the verge of becoming an addict, even from his explanations that day he said he already lost about 70k in my local fiat currency, this made me to also think in the other way around that he's trying to chase loses too and thinking that those last bets he played would be a recovery bet for him.

Furthermore, might be that he is an irresponsible gambler if he is not addicted, I kind of think there are many other reasons to this behavioral act of the gentleman.

One gambler, out of money and luck, yet surprised? None. Not addiction or greediness, but a lack to recognise limits. Gambling thrives on "just one more bet". Simply said, it's a losing game. Strategy, discipline, and self-awareness are the issues, not betting. Every seasoned bettor understands not to gamble more than they can afford to lose. However, this gambler lost his ability to pay his debts. It goes beyond poor judgement to reject gambling's and life's fundamentals

He could drop his phone? Temporary solution to permanent issues. Losing control is more than losing money. You can't afford to bet that in life's high-stakes game. Rise, understand the rules, and maybe you'll avoid being another cautionary tale

I think it is neither addiction neither greediness,for me personally every time I have done such thing was neither because of addiction or greediness but always because of the feeling of rage and sadness that I felt,I thought to myself what the f is this slot machine doing not giving the bonus round for 700 or more spins so I will increase the bet until I hit the bonus and hope to win big.

It does never work though as even though I have got the bonus with a higher bet the bonus spins have been empty at least a whopping 90% of times,this was enough for me to stop gambling,it is near 3 weeks without a single bet for me so I think I am in the good path to quit it forever.

That is the highest and this shows that the person is not responsible, I don't see the reason why I would play to the extent I don't have money to pay for the game I played, it is even embarrassing to make such a statement, and I don't know the reason why you will want to gamble every day. I don't see gambling to be my job and that is why I won't take it that seriously because I know the implication that comes with, gambling when you cross the limit, and if not for the implication, I would not have bothered too much about what gambling does.


If I were there I would have drawn the person on one side and advised the person because I would say if he did not control this if it should get out of hand then retracing your step back would be difficult but your taste for money would have increased and if money is involved then it is difficult to even leave, nobody is against gambling but do it with caution, because when gambling starts with you then you will find it difficult to stop. if you go to some agents' places they even have records of what is then and some even have a large amount of money, if the gambler does not have the money to pay the person they should involve the police, because that is the only language you will understand.

Greediness means you're addicted, so that's addiction for sure. That's where you no longer can control your urges towards gambling. That person may only feel like it's just frustrations that's pushing himself to continue gambling even after he ran out of money, but in reality it is the addiction that's slowly consuming him.
I have never been in that situation, but I am quite familiar to that scenario, usually it would happen in a P2P betting deal, like a person to persons making a deal on betting a specific amount for a specific sport or game. Some people doesn't feel the need  to declare how much money they have on their pocket, so this is where some gamblers take advantage of this opportunity.

I will say that it is both greediness, and addiction that is the cause. Firstly, when you are addicted, you will look for a means to gamble even when you do not have any means of funding your gambling activities. Addicted gamblers, can go to the extend of taking a loan to gamble or sell their properties. They can just gamble and believe that they will sort it out later, because they lack self control.

However, greediness can lead to this, at the same time. In the sense that, the gambler in question might decide to come and try is luck, by believing that as he is gambling, he will win the money that he can use to take care of his bills, forgetting that gamble is a game of luck. People that also see gambling as a means of income, can also behave this way, and finally such person will end up being a gamble addict.

The situation seems to be the ages old case of betting more than you could pay for. There are instances and news of people losing all their money and betting in physical belongings and than immovable property at bet. People even put up their property documents on a poker table. In a recent news, someone did bet his wife on the table and lost it. He did comply with the bet but in compliance, another crime was committed and police got involved.

The easiest explanation is rage bet. When your are gambling without a plan for longer time and keep on losing, you starts betting recklessly everything you could or couldn't in some case. This category of gambling can be categorized as gambling addiction as any sane people would have stopped on losing the cash they had.

I believe greediness lead to addiction. Greed is tge poison, while addiction is the intoxication. Someone who takes several dosages of poison will inevitably get intoxicated at some point, and that is when they start doing crazy things like borrowing money to gamble, stealing from others to gamble, lying to close people in order to have access to money to gamble, and to act like the man from the example you mentioned did.

And why do people seek for intoxication, when it should be pretty obvious it's going to be harmful for them? Well, probably the consequences aren't clear for them at first point. They can only see the short term pleasure and possible benefits, like hitting a jackpot, doubling their funds or getting rich. For ignorance or euphoria they don't measure the potential negative impacts of being greedy and adding this to gambling on a formula, so when they face the results and consequences, it's already too late.

I'm not surprised by it, we have hear horror stories of the gambler doing things that a we can only imagine. So in this case it was obvious that his decision is clouded because he is a addict already. And as I have said, there are a lot of emotions going on his mind and he can't think rightfully and all he wants is to bet and try his luck on that game and see if he can win or not.

He even didn't think of his own safety as he is betting no money here, what if he loses? So again, I have seen this many times before, specially in games like cockfighting wherein someone will try to bet on me but when we won he doesn't have the money and so we have to call the attention of the authorities in the arena. We just think that maybe the other party thinks that we are young and inexperience that they can just get away with it. But the friend that I have with me has a uncle that has a big influence on that arena and so they are force to pay us right there and there.

It's either he has applied more disciplines to his gambling life which he may have limited the funds of his gambling budgets other hand could be that he must have been death with being an uncontrolable loser who sometimes staked irresponsibly til it has affected his income so he wouldn't have much to fund his gambling anymore as usual.

That is irresponsible gambling. He was supposed to check his wallet first before gambling but he did not which led to such a thing. Maybe he is in a rush or has an intention, in any case, we should be aware of the current balance of our wallet before gambling.

I'd never experience this and I don't do this either. To gamble responsibly should be our practice as we not just lose the trust of others as it happens to that person but also, this will help to avoid overspending. This is not a coincidence but a sort of missing out on our budget. However, this can be avoided if we gamble responsibly.

From the story about the person you told here, it is clear that he is one of the gamblers who has entered the addiction phase, and one of the reasons why he did everything just to gamble like sacrificing his smartphone to pay for the game is because an addicted gambler has a higher level of curiosity, and they also have absolutely no ability to accept reality, especially about losing, simply put, an addicted gambler will be addicted when he wins and will be more curious when he loses.

There is absolutely no good situation from either outcome whether you win or lose, it's because they always drive without using the brakes, or meaning rowing without knowing how to pull over, so they will only really stop when the vehicle hits something or when the boat sinks which makes it no longer able to row. This is the danger when you are already in a situation of addiction, where you will not be able to determine when to stop, and one of the reasons is because from the beginning you were too tempted by the name of winning and your involvement was not based on the right and proper understanding of gambling, so you get lost and drive on the wrong road which in the end the situation is always worse, gambling is not that serious my friend and winning is not as easy as you imagine.

I support you here, its only an addict that places those kind of games in quick succession without calculating his funds and his  threshold for the day. The desire to gamble more with the day dream of winning big plunges them to keep trying despite all odds.

Sometimes this is the case, but other times the gambler is so much immersed in his activities that he/she forgets that all funds have been expended, not until accounting is done by the cashier does he realize he's in debt.
But in the case of this guy in question, you're 100% correct as the margin is too high to be considered a mere mistake and calling in police to settle the issue was the best thing the manager should do as nobody knows if the smartphone he is dropping is a stolen one that can put the manager and company in bigger trouble.

For sure, whoever gamble to the extent of using his phone as temporary collateral for debt incurred is not a small addict, but a principal one. He can even go to the extent of forfeiting the phone and even counterbalancing with the manager for more funds to gamble. What a shameful act.

Not knowing when to stop is a very serious issue to tackle amongst gamblers but a few gamblers don't seem to see any big deal in it because they mostly feel they have got the control over their selves and will be able to at any point in time stop probably if the need be, gambling without cautiousness is very dangerous because you may literary not know when to stop especially if you are not gambling on a budget but if you are gambling on a budget and you stay within your budget making that which is within your budget your only available fund I think that will help but in this case he not only went beyond his budget but also had to incurre debts in the casino, basically this person isn't disciplined enough and needs to be helped to staying disciplined because he's taught he's got a high chance by keep trying and probably will get an opportunity to win even after exhausting that with which he did came to the casino with.

This person needs help els they will become addicted. I think what actually leads to such situations is over trusting your guts, think that you are going to be lucky by your next trial and not staying disciplined, this person is obviously an irresponsible Gambler and needs to be cautioned and taught how well to stay disciplined and not become a problem to the society.

It could be that it was just a wrong decision by not stopping playing when he ran out of money and it turned out that he had to take responsibility and the way to do this was by giving his smartphone as collateral.
I quite often see things like this when I'm in my relation's village where men gather to gamble and they don't hesitate to use other valuables things they have as collateral but it's not because of addiction, just because at that time he didn't have enough money and when he returned home he already took the money it's easy to redeem the guarantee, and these people can stop at any time when they have to do other activities such as working or trading in market, so I think something like that is not an addiction or greed, just a way to relax after regularly working or trading, and can be said to be addicted or greedy when he loses all his assets, so as long as he can stop and do other important things, of course it cannot be said to be an addiction.

the situation must be that he is a gambling addict with no control over the game. he does not have and does not know a definite limit for quitting the game. it is a bad situation for a gambler. when they don't have any money but still insist on betting until they run out.
such people may have to be blacklisted by the casino. so they won't create any problems in the future. what you said makes sense and it is realistic in a gambling environment. Maybe even worse, the gambling addict forces himself to play by borrowing from his friends even though he has experienced a losing streak until his money runs out. and that will cause other problems once the gambling is over.

I blame the sportbookie agent who allowed the gambler to place a bet without prove of money. Unless the sportbookie agent is a rookie, years of experience working with people should make the person develop some psychological ability to read people. To tell those who are deep in gambling addiction and are willing to sacrifice their personal effect for a game and those who are responsible gambler. So, I blame the sportbook agent or attendant.

To the OP what was your reaction. Did you try to explain to the young person in the story that they should take it easy with their gambling? Did you try to offer some kind of help that would teach him how to be a responsible gambler? If you didn't, next time you are in such a situation, you should seize the moment and help a gambling addict out.

Before I read the body of your post, I already knew it was visual gambling that would get a player that engrossed not to know when to throw in the towel  ;D


So you have already suggested the answers and they are both addiction and greed but I think greed is the more concerned to why a gambler will forget their pocket or bankroll because they are carried away to win either a fresh game or win back what they have been losing. I believe it is greed that leads into addicttion.

This man is not the first to go into such gambling oblivion, many get to that level and they drop their belongings to come back to bail it at a later date or time. It is not something strange and gambling agents already know a gambler can over step his budget so it doesn't really get to the extent of bringing in the law enforcement like the police. It usually ends by resolution on agreement that the gambler has to remit a belonging of his that will be of the range of his debt and come back to provide the money and collect his belongings. Well this is just the phenomenon that is popular in offline gambling unlike online that has no credit facility, it is pay as you play and no room for debts.

I don't think it's all about greediness, I can sense the addiction related to this scenario because as you can see, the gambler has no limitation on his self because he knows that he has no money but still continue playing knowing that there's no certainty of winning. Having an addiction is difficult to prevent than being greedy because if you're an addicted person, it means you're having a difficulties in managing your decision, actions and such important things.

Agree with this mate (loss control is the reason of wrong decision) cause we are all know that everything happens for a reason. But there are many way to fight this we don't need to loss our control cause once that is happen then wrong decision we make. In gambling discipline is one of the reasons why those gamblers didn't got an addict cause they control themselves. Also we must think that uj the world of gambling we don't need to be serious just okay for fun then for sure you got happy every loss and win.

What I could think of is addiction not greediness. Why I said is addiction is that it is only a gambling addict will play to the extent of playing a game when he has no cash left in him. When a gambler is addicted to gambling, he doesn't care if he doesn't have a dime. But play and having hope to win and pay the casino personnel or even thinking of who to borrow him money to play a desired game. If he is greedy as you think, it will be when he win a big amount and stake all back to the casino, that is when I will say he is greedy but for now o think it is addiction.

From your story, it seems to me that greediness and addiction are at work together and that's why he is facing this trouble. I think greediness and addiction are connected to each other, people fall into greed first and then fall into addiction because of that greed. And it is because of this that a gambler loses his self-control and participates in gambling even though he has no money, which is illustrated in your above case.
There have been a few times in my case that I lost my self-control and crossed the limit to gamble again. But every time this happened to me, I had money to gamble with and I never went beyond what I could afford to lose.

I’m confused how this betting for someone without paying first is possible? The person who bet using his own money for other players bet can simply runaway when the bet he place won since he use his own money to bet while there’s no written agreement that will prove that you place bet for him. This is very dangerous to the person in question here.

I will never on this position since I never use 3rd party service to place my bet or to play with my money. My bankroll is always dedicated for gambling win or lose so I always make sure that I will not overextend my budget for gambling. Maybe, if I still want to play but the money I take with me is small the only time I can gamble out of my range assuming that I knew someone in the casino that I can borrow money.

Based on my understanding on that scenario, greediness if for me the most accurate factor thay affected the guy in that situation. Why? Because we can be greedy even being a newbie gambler I mean with that being said that you don't need to be a gambling addict just to be greedy.

Isn't it just a display of impulsiveness and being unaware of his bankroll? I can't call it addiction 'coz the information is lacking also there are other factors to consider such as pushing too much or having huge desire to gamble despite of being aware of his bankroll. Greed on the other hand also requires a drive to continuously bet wanting to win more and it is more likely to be frustration rather. Also, this only happens with live betting or in physical casinos which has a dealer. You can't gamble with online platforms without actually placing a bet. The only instance which is a bit alike with this scenario is betting an amount outside my alloted budget for gambling on that day. Perhaps my alloted budget was $100 for that day, and after consuming it, I still continue betting, which crosses the line, and that's an unwanted decision on my end to avoid being too addicted of it.

Yes, the person is too focused and too tempted by winning that he always persists with the idea of "one more time" and so on until in the end he has to sacrifice everything he has such as a smartphone, this is a dangerous addiction situation which is basically not impossible for him to eventually risk something much bigger than a smartphone such as maybe a vehicle or even his own house. But this is the behavior of a person when he has entered the addiction phase, there is nothing else on his mind but gambling.

What is feared in this situation is when a gambling addict turns into a criminal when he really no longer has money to gamble with, because obviously he will use any means to get money just to gamble, such as maybe stealing, robbing or cheating others. If indeed they make trouble inside the physical casino by coming without bringing money but boldly ordering games until in the end it becomes a problem because they can't pay yes maybe the casino can blacklist them, but if basically such out of control actions are done outside the casino such as doing everything even though it doesn't make sense to get money to go to the casino then it is a situation that will be more profitable for the casino, because this is a business for them by utilizing people who are excessive.

When you say greediness, I will accept the fact because many gamblers are greedy and they always expect wining always or everytime they gambles, so greediness as you said is one of the factors that makes people to be addicted in gambling and secondly to pursue your loss is another thing that push some people to be addicted in gambling, so therefore we have to understand the system that gambling is one kind thing that have spirit and when you don't take your time you will be committed or become addicted in gambling, whatever you are doing in gambling you don't need to be greedy or to pursue your loss

Greediness is the only thing that can makes a gambler placing a bet until he uses all of his money to playing gambling and that already happened to many gamblers. They can't hold themselves to avoid playing gambling with limitations so they used much money and most of them are chasing the wins. We know that chase a win from gambling is not easy because that can makes us used so much money without we realizes. But if you can have good self-control, you will not use much money because you know that gambling is just for fun and gambling is parts of the other activity that you used for filling your spare times.

It can be tempting, like that shiny arcade game beckoning you with the promise of epic wins. But hey, gotta be real, it's easy to get caught up in the excitement and lose sight of the fact that winning big is, well, super unlikely.

Before you know it, the fun fades, and the pressure to win back what you lost takes over. That's when things can get messy. Bad decisions get made, and before you blink, you're in a situation that's anything but chill.

Gambling can be a thrill, like listening to your favorite music or painting a masterpiece. But unlike those activities, gambling comes with a risk factor. You might lose some cash, and that's not exactly a recipe for a good time.

This is a clear case of gambling addiction. He couldn't control his gambling activities which was why he decided to gamble on credit. In some physical bet shops, you have to pay before you place a bet. It is usually written boldly in these bet shops that you have to pay or deposit money before placing a bet. A long time ago when my friends used to engage in traditional games like cards and dice, you could use your belongings to gamble. There are times when some of them will have to go home on just inner wear because they have gambled with almost everything they own including clothes. An addict always has hope that the next bet will favor him and that the next bet could turn into more bets.

Some gambling addicts also have some traits of greed or lack of contentment. This is why you will see a bettor, gamble out of all he has won. They are not just satisfied with what they have won, thus they keep placing bets until they lose all they have won.

That is greed. He was too greedy to chase victory, so he spent all his money on his games on his smartphone even though he had a responsibility to pay for his other games. Sometimes this greed makes players blind, so they forget their other responsibilities just to pursue momentary pleasure. He was too trivial in thinking that he could win one more game and recover his losses by gambling his last money, when in fact the opposite happened, he lost all his money.

In such a scenario, it's not purely down to addiction, because most people will feels like it can only happens to an addictive gambler, but no, it can happen to any gambler that is bent on getting back his or her losses without realizing that he is now going the extra miles just to get back his fund.

As for me, I have not been such a terrible gambler, I only gambles when I feels like, and it's during weekends, and anytime I want to gambles, I do it with the intention of just trying my luck, not a manner that will warrant me to lose an amount I can't afford to lose.

For me it's not really a greediness, what happens is that the spirit of gambling has taken the young man away, due to his more money and not knowing that he has exhausted his money, let us try to understand that in gambling two things is involved, either you lose or you gain, for me, if I'm the gambler, I would have given them my phone to make sure that their is no noise there, because is not good for we to own a betting center despite your condition, neither you make a proper arrangement of betting on credit with them than after betting you don't have money to pay them, they can consider you to bet on credit base on your commitment with them, when you are not committed with them or be a regular customer to them they will not give you such privilege to bet on credit or give you that chance of owning them.

What you said is very common because a real jusharu always keep some of his funds and bet but not always profitable and win the bet eventually he can lose all his money or go because if he is too addicted Become addicted to money. So it should always be remembered that a gambler should bet without betting his money so that later he can afford to earn from the rest of his money. But I think as a gambler he should not get addicted to this game.

Your scenario is shockingly typical and highlights the dangers of binge gambling. A lack of self-control and a misunderstanding of gambling's nature have caused many problems in my years of betting and monitoring human behaviour. Know when to stop, not only addiction or greed. Many gamblers chase losses like the individual you mentioned. The need to recover losses drives this behaviour, not greed. This risky cycle can swiftly increase, leading to illogical and financially harmful judgements.

I've learned to admit a problem and seek aid in such situations. Gamble to entertain, not to win. Setting and sticking to budgets is key. Knowing that the house always wins helps avert the situation you experienced.

It’s simple, the hope that you could come by a big win later on in the game but the chances that this might ever come to be is so slim. I have had to see this happen many at times and the people I always blame when this happens is the gambling agents. This is the agent having to bring familiarity into the gambling business, noting some gamblers to be credit worthy and others to be not. This shouldn’t be the case for gambling. A gambler who is credit gambling is one that could be seen as an addict or someone who is just desperate and doesn’t know when or how to call it a day.
The chances that such loss would be recovered is difficult and should be avoided. You get to pay as you play, easy and safe for everyone.
It’s just embarrassing that some gamblers do this and am sure they always get there bunch in full.

Fortunate enough and proudly to say that I didn't come to this, you see I grew up in a poor household and I saw first hand what having debts unpaid is going to make your life, it was a miserable time for the family and I swear to myself that never in my day as someone who'll eventually get their own money, that I would never ever get into a big debt and that always get the habit of having to pay on the agreed upon time, my point is that I never leave my house without a huge amount of money especially if I gamble or do something outside because I don't want to ask for a loan from other people or that I would get indebted to someone because I failed to pay them the right amount. Hopefully not a lot of people have experienced this kind of awkward and shameful situation because if I ever was caught in that kind of situation I'd probably wish that the ground beneath would just swallow me whole, can't live in that kind of shame.

Regards to what could put them there, I think it's a bit of both with the mixture of arrogance because they've taken for granted the convenience that they forgot an emergency and awkward situation like that can happen and so they end up landing in that situation, I say bot greed and addiction because I do believe that they're a pair when it comes to this, you're so greedy about money that you got addicted to gambling and even when you've got a problem that needs some solving like this one in the story, you still push through with your habit despite knowing that the owner of the betting shop isn't going to like it.

I think that for a gambler to behave like this might be because he is familiar to the bet shop, maybe he do gamble in that bet shop regularly, which has made him to know the bet attendant, and he might have done it before that the game worked for him, and he was able to pay for his gamble, or the bet attendant do allow him to pay for his gamble later.

However, it is not advisable and I believe that the owner of the bet shop is not aware of such, that was why he called for the arrest of the gambler. I will call this addiction, because if he is not addicted he should have not gamble without money.

We used to do this when we were teens, placing bets against someone hoping to win and getting something without risking anything but our faces. We call this 'ghost money', and if you lose the bet, you just run as fast as you can or try to hide/blend in the crowd before disappearing. We were lucky to not lose any bets from doing this, but I know for sure that if we lose it, we're done for. We were not addicts in any way, we just wanted to have some money to buy snacks and booze and this is the only way we know how to get it quick and easy.

In the case of the man in question, I guess he does have some money but forgot how much he brought. Him leaving his phone to the shop and promising to pay back is quite typical. Also, if it's only $15, the value of his phone might easily cover that. If I was the cop handling this case, I'd take the guy's word and suggest the owner to just get the phone as collateral if the man isn't back after a certain period of time.

In this case, not all, he isn't a regular customer of that particular betting shop because according to the gentleman who owns the shop he even said that this was really the first time of him seeing the gambler come to the shop to place his bet, because when the situation got to an extent where the owner had to involve the police to settle the matter, most of us there were advising him to take a hold of the guy's smartphone to rest the case, he said this is the first time of him seeing the man in the shop that he should have considered. So, who knows if this is how the guy does go around in various gambling shops with such behavior.

Many people when they start playing cannot control themselves, so these people play until all the money they have in their pockets runs out, and it is a sad and regrettable situation, but it does not only happen with games of chance, if they are in places where selling beers will see that the owner of the place where they sell beer is a person who has a list of many people who have incurred debts in the place where he sells beer, and were in debt to consume beer. This is because alcohol is something that easily makes people addicted, which causes a lot of damage in many families, even reaching the frightening level of people using their entire salary to pay off the debt they incurred with drinks. now gambling addiction is more problematic in the sense that if the person plays in online casinos

It is enough for the person to sell whatever they have nearby and they will continue playing and it is unlikely that other people in the real world will find out and even when they do find out, it will be difficult for them to stop the person who has problems with gaming, because nowadays there is a device in every corner. that goes online and that person can keep playing, in my case I don't have problems with games, I can maintain my self control well, I'm not playing every day, there are only a few days when I play and I've always taken long gaming holidays, In other words, I haven't played for 3 months and whenever there is a week without games from the big football leagues, I also don't place sports bets.

Addiction+greed+impulsiveness+lose control etc...

Once you do reach out into a certain condition that you are already betting on what you do have, not talking literally money then this is a solid indication that you are already that an addicted person.
No one on their right minds would really be making out such dealing if you do know that there's no money left for you to be able to do so. When greed kicks in then this is where desperation
would really be seen through. You would really be able to realize things after once you've been able to face up those kind of confrontations.

This is why it would really be always best that you should really be that sensible on the actions that you are taking. Play for fun and if you do saw that you dont have
the money that you could really be able to play on, then better stop completely and dont ask for more. This is where people do mess up their
lives due to that bad decision making.

this is a trick question, right?

We've all heard stories of that one big win that never quite materializes.  At the end of the rainbow there may be no pot of gold - only empty pockets and regret.  Perhaps it stems from addiction, greed, or a combination of factors.  Either way, the lure of easy money can cloud judgment and rationality.  Some folks truly wrestle with addiction; others get caught in the thrill-seeking of risk-taking.  Many are driven by financial desperation rather than simple greed.  And of course, the gambling industry employs sophisticated methods to keep customers betting.

There are no easy answers here.  But one thing does seem clear: relying on gambling to solve one's problems often leads to more problems.  Moderation and perspective are valuable, if difficult to maintain.  Perhaps the wisest course lies less in judging others and more in examining what truly drives our own behavior.

Both can be a cause to put a gambler in such a bad behaviour and habbit. First of all due to greediness a person gets engaged in gambling when he win in gambling then his greediness increases but when he losses in gambling then this greediness turns into addiction.

An addictive gamblers never think about his family and loyalty but continuesly doing bad things just to find out a way to continue gambling. If it happens in our country then gambler will not be able to call a police because here gambling is strictly prohibited and if someone is gambling then he never shows to others about his gambling.

I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.

It is natural that a gambler who is addicted will easily get emotional when he continues to lose in every game so that he can no longer gamble anymore because he has already spent his money. Indeed, sometimes someone who is addicted cannot control himself, causing riots and greed. , and many people are easily provoked just because of gambling and don't have clear thinking in making any decisions.

In this case, it can be concluded that if the shop owner realizes that the gambler no longer has money, he should no longer be allowed to play because after all, if the money runs out, it means the game is over, there are no additional minutes of time or bonuses for continuing to play if you no longer have money. because things like this will definitely cause confusion and also losses for the owner, indeed he has given his smartphone but that doesn't mean it's just paid off because it has caused discomfort for other visitors. A gambler who is addicted is indeed difficult to advise because of his thinking. those who can't think straight.

For countries that still prohibit gambling, of course, gambling businesses will have their security. so they will not involve state institutions that could destroy their business.
but in countries where gambling is legal, those who pay taxes to the state certainly have the right to have their business protected.
However, it is the fault of the gambler who plays to the end and he or she may enjoy the game so much and be so ambitious about winning that they forget that all their money is gone.
All gambling activities must be carried out responsibly. if they lose everything and can't go home, then there must be consequences.

I think they are trapped in the gambling addiction cycle because it has the hope of the Ministry of Religion. Where they missed gambling wrong, the majority of gamblers who did gambling and their goal was a profitable victory. They really have the hope of getting a big profitable victory by gambling. Although the gambling carried out always ended with defeat, but most likely and many cases are also they still gamble and continue to gamble because they still have the thought of gambling that can bring a profitable victory, with this makes them committed impulsive acts, where they continue Gambling without thinking about the losses that occur. Many cases of gambling addicted to gambling motifs that trap, thinking about profitable victory in my opinion is wrong, I mean hope it is not wrong, but sometimes the hopes that have sometimes become traps, plunge us on impulsive actions that do not beneficial but detrimental. Also with them became addicted to gambling because the actions of themselves were no elements from the casino, because the casino itself did not demand them to do gambling frequently.

Generally humans certainly have dissatisfaction or greedy, especially with the name of money. In gambling it is said to be able to get a profitable victory and that is money, after all who does not want money, of course everyone will want money especially in large quantities, by gambling that is said by using a little capital can get that big victory of course of course Just tempting, but what must be considered victory in gambling is difficult to obtain, instead with victory many people spend a lot of money just to get a victory and maybe there are also many cases about people whose finances are messy due to gambling. If only they could be aware of the real gambling is a paid game where there is a profitable victory can be obtained if we are lucky. Sometimes even when they get a victory they are not aware, they still continue gambling with confidence can get even greater victory, but the possibility of the end of gambling is certainly loss or defeat. All the adverse effects of gambling are due to wrong self -acting from the beginning.

It's a big no-go to place bets with money that you don't have or can't afford to lose. There is no excuse if your bet went against you and you can't afford to pay the bookmaker. The money should be taken out of the salary immediately and it should be a good lesson to not repeat the same mistake. When it comes to big physical casinos or online casinos we always need to deposit money first before placing bets. The bookies want to make sure that we actually have the money in case we lose it. Getting a loan from the bookie to place bets seems like a terrible idea. It's hard to tell if it's really a gambling addiction, for that we would need to know if it has happened before and how the rest of his gambling activities look like. I would probably say it's more greed, he might be thinking that low risk bets have no chance of losing and he got proven wrong. Or he has lost several bets before and thinks now that he can't lose anymore.

We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.

Yes, I've heard a lot of that too if you can't pay after the bet it is true that addiction or greed can put a gambler in such a situation. Greed is something that puts a person in a bad situation in every way because after greed one always runs towards it. Gambling is a game that tends to be more addictive than fun or competitive gambling addicts prioritize gambling over personal family or social responsibilities. As a result his problems are not solved but the problems become more pronounced. You have to try to control yourself for solving your own problems self control is more important to get out of gambling addiction.

There is no better way to describe this than addiction have taken over this person, they believe that if they keep gambling they will make it, this is why I hate any words of encouragement from anyone to gamblers, they are pushing you towards the burning pot of fire, if you let it get to you, it's your fault.

Gambling is a burning field of greedy and impatience, if you allow this to consume you there will be problem, i's not a place that you can make guaranteed money but it will make the whole picture look like you are going to win, that hope is what I call untrue.

If you can't devote a small percentage of your salary or income for gambling and never use more than that, you are a loose dog that goes around bitting through anything they sees, learn to control yourself in gambling, the amount you are willing to lose must remain the same, because it's what you can afford to lose.

Yes, greed combines with curiosity which ultimately makes a person make decisions without any rational consideration, but yes, that is an addictive situation where you will easily make decisions that are actually beyond your ability just because of the urge of curiosity to get something bigger. Simply put, addicted gamblers will usually be curious when they lose and will also be greedy when they win.

So whether you win or lose, the situation will still be the same because addicted gamblers will usually end up losing even though they initially won and that is because of the greed aspect that they cannot ignore. On the other hand, yes, it is true that gambling is an activity that tends to make us addicted, none other than because the object of winning is money, which we all always need money, that is not wrong, but what is wrong is that some people are too serious about winning in gambling without knowing that anyone will only be able to win by "chance", this is why gambling is always referred to as a chance activity and clearly the key is limits and self-control as a precaution.

greed is always in the minds of gambling addicts and what the gambler does includes the two statements you said so that he does something that makes himself feel satisfied.
like the case I once saw a gambler playing a slot game with a large budget after that he increased the amount of his bet when he always lost every spin bonus purchase and after that his budget ran out surprisingly he approached me and told me to buy his phone and I before buying the phone he offered, I asked him and he answered very long and then I was willing to buy the phone at a cheap price.
but it was very surprising after he went to borrow his friend's phone to play slots again and lost again then he approached me again to ask for his phone back even though I had bought his phone only a few hours before and worse he threatened me because I didn't return his phone and finally his friend approached him after that asked him to leave.

this is also a behavior that is outside the limits of a normal gambler or ordinary gambler because it is clear that from the gambler's behavior we can see whether he is just gambling for fun or following his addiction.

What I find weird about this situation is how can you even place bet without paying it upfront. The last time I visit a casino or betting shop doesn’t have any IOU form of betting including agent since they need the money first before someone place bet.

I believe doubling down in blackjack is the only scenario which this can possibly happened since it offers insurance or doubling down during the bet which you can’t afford if you don’t have enough money already while you have an active bets already. This is the only time greed can’t do anything no matter how good the situation if you don’t have money anymore.

One thing that can help you to really make wise decisions is when you look at and consider something rationally and sensibly, the question is whether you are able to maintain this level of awareness? if not then it will obviously be difficult, but if you are able to maintain awareness within yourself when you are in a certain situation, especially perhaps defeat, then I think it will not be too difficult for you to really choose the wisest and best decision in some situations.

Basically, in my opinion, if you have a healthy approach to gambling then maybe everything will go well, I understand that the problems that occur in gambling are problems that are quite difficult to overcome, one of which is addiction, but you won't experience problems. like that if you initially have a correct understanding about gambling and you will be able to have this when you always look at things rationally and not just from one side, as you said regarding people who end up going astray and experiencing big losses. , and I say that they are people who are too tempted by what is called winning in gambling, ignoring the possibility of risk in gambling is a very wrong mindset which ultimately leads themselves to a much worse situation, this is not about profit but more about balance because after all gambling is always risky.

This is a pure sign of gambling addiction champion by greed. These two gambling effects works hand in hand with each other to destroy the gambler's life. Several times, issues like this has been discussed in this forum and I have personally witnessed some with my eyes. In fact, I do intervene in the matter when necessary. For cases like this, I blame the shop owners for allowing customers to play games multiple times without paying for the first round. Some gamblers are easily carried away during those moments and can accumulate debts bigger than their budget which normally result in this.

I don't want to talk much about the gambler but I would advise the victim to play according to his budget next time because this is a total embarrassment to himself and the family. In this part of the world, the moment people start seeing you having issues involving police, they'll start avoiding you and assume you are a bad person. How do you explain yourself to your loved ones that you play games and couldn't afford to pay is the reason you are with the police for God sake? Which sane person does that? Absolutely embarrassing. Operators should not be allowing customers to play games without payments to avoid issues like this. Aside that it's not good for their business, it also damage customers relation.

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Well, it's a classic story and the only thing that comes across is that you were looking at something that is none of your business. (Sorry)

Has this ever happened to you as a gambler?
 No.

 But if it happens, I'll pay for a consultation with a specialist, the one in the story probably used the phrase (it doesn't work) "bet the money you can afford to lose."

We don't know exactly the behind the scenes here, but in any case, that's none of our business. However, in this particular scenario, you can account for both, addiction and greed. Because these two behaviours go together and more then likely the gambler himself is guilty of these emotions, but he won't admit it to himself.

Didn't happen it yet to myself, but I am not looking forward to it..lol As much as possible, contain your gambling habits so you won't get into trouble. You will only regret afterwards, once the damaged has done.

I hear this kind of story almost daily and the reasons for such are many, which could be one or more from the following; stupidity, addiction and irresponsibility. Certainly, greed is not part of it because there is nothing to be greedy about here, since the guy has not won a bet and continues to play. This is the only cause we can attribute greed to. In this case, he was just foolish to let himself get carried away by the gambling, and perhaps he did not have any budget or plans before entering the gambling house. This is bad.

Also, for someone to behave as foolishly as such, I am sure the person is also addicted to gambling. There is no way you would not be engrossed with gambling and continue to play to the point that you played when you are fully aware you did not have more money to pay for it. This is so annoying and foolish, it shows the level of irresponsibility of the person and the shame of an adult, to say the least.

I often advise gamblers to be very cautious in their gambling activity to avoid shameful embarrassments like that. Gambling is never a must, or is it food or the air we breathe to make it compulsory? So, I wonder why some people engage in it as if their lives depend on it. Gamble when you have the money and forget gambling when you do not have the money. And even if you have the money, gamble politely and responsibly, and never use the money that if lost would be hurtful, not to talk of gambling on loans. The guy's case is so absurd.

They need to satisfied their need for gambling, it's nothing but an addiction that they can't control, you need to be scared of what gambling could do to you, when you think you have control, think again, because it's possible to lose yourself when gambling, make sure you understand the risks involved instead of trying to be something you are not.

Many people have end up breaking their homes because of this addiction, they lack self control, their families must have tried to help but its getting no where, I have seen this happening around me, and to me it's just a lack of understanding, if you can really sit down and try to solve the true meaning of gambling, it's very clear that it could turn your life upside down, for the worse.

If everyone is adding some sense, they will be very careful around casinos, it's not something you can rely on for passive income or even life changing opportunity, it's not, you must risk only what you can truly afford to lose, and accept that gambling might not favour you at all.

That's right. It is not the fault of gambling or the betting shop, so we shouldn't put the blame at them if ever we do. Having lots of money, can be said as one of the triggers for the most of us to play gambling but we can't just wish that we better not have it because we also need it on other things.

By there, I can say that the problem is not about the money but it was our self for not having a self control. Too bad mate that you are one of those who can't control themselves but have you already tried consulting to the experts about this matter? Or let the people around you know it, so that they can give you advices and help. Good luck, and I hope you still can recover.

The guy at the betting shop probably got into this mess because he's hooked on gambling and can't stop, mixing in a bit of greed for good measure. Addiction makes people ignore how much they can really afford and the idea of scoring big quickly amps up the risk. Your story with the gambler not having cash to settle his bets sounds like a mix of compulsive betting driven by addiction and wanting more than he could handle like classic greed. Sorting out issues like these often needs some kind of intervention, counseling or support to break the cycle of bad gambling habits

Wow!! There's no second thought to this,this is big time gambling addiction and it has come to the height of it,and there's no way he'll come out of such mess except otherwise.
This is why it is purely advice to  bargain for something that you can afford and be discipline in your dealings with finances but most people won't adhere to  but with the mindset of having it by all means it will surely land the person somewhere they will regret every actions.

What will become of him now,and I think for he to place is smartphone as an exchange for the bet funds, there's no point he really have any to sort that,it's such set of people that won't take advice and even end up selling their entire assets just for this

This is what I have been talking about nobody should place a bet with what they cannot afford to lose, to me It is a crime to bet with everything that you have until the extend that you don’t even have a penny anymore not just that betting in credits, you are just bringing more problems to yourself whatever you see and whatever happened to you is what you deserve it, but I pray they should just forgive him and give sometime to pay the debt. Some people are just crazy in betting stupidity I don’t just understand how people think before they take some action.

It's linked and associated with each other. We can consider "addiction will lead to greediness" or "greediness will lead to addiction".

The same bottom line. The same result. Nothing has changed vice-versa. A gambler under status is always desperate to gamble.

Since lack money, they will do everything just to make it possible for them to gamble even if it's about facing risky action.

This is more likely a loss of control scenario.  The person might be greedy or addicted since both factors can trigger that event.  It is too soon to say that the person is a gambling addict because there is so little evidence or scenario to support that the person is an addicted gambler, while it is more likely to be greed because of the spur of the moment, and wanting to make more money hoping that he will hit big time, failed to check his available funds.


This is more on bankroll management, it is not about whether the person is betting on the money he can afford to lose but betting on the money that he has no hold of.  This is a clear scenario of a bankroll management problem.  Betting without any funds is a clear sign of defrauding the operator.  It is right that the owner of the shop calls  a police because the person is trying to defraud him.

That's what I think too, many individual that don't make profits or end up in the same situation when they're gambling as they're greedy and also have addiction problem. It's when they have addictions that their real greediness come out more as they won't be able to control anything. I prefer to not be greedy and be comfortable with any payout that I get. I don't gamble further when I don't have the money to pay incase I lose and I was asked to pay. Don't gamble money you don't own.

As a gambler, you have a higher chances of losing than winning therefore you shouldn't put yourself in a situation that you'll have to be beg and not get disgrace. Many individuals are lacking proper guide on how to gamble responsibly, when you gamble responsibly you're going to enjoy the games that you're playing and also make money if you're very lucky for luck based games or have skills for others.

In this I'll blame the shop owner or whoever is responsible for booking the games. Why would he just keep booking different bets for a person without asking for money?
From my experience, without the money you won't get the ticket, so why would he allow the person to have different tickets at different times without asking for money?

This kind of case is actually common in my early days of gambling years ago. I see it happen a lot. It usually doesn't get to a point of involving the police because these guys are usually regulars are the gambling shop so they usually sort things out between themselves.

Gambling is an interesting thing, the more you do, the more you want to do it. So if you're not careful you might gamble more than you have on you if it's possible and be in a lot of debt. It doesn't necessarily have to be a gambling addiction or greed, it can happen when you're sucked into the moment and you forget yourself.

I believe the gamble was in great loses that he forgot himself and his available funds. He continued fighting to recover his lost funds and at that moment, every trait of discipline and rationality has left him. He's now undergoing the heat of his decision to gamble mindlessly, the more he gambled, the more he lost and it was obvious he was having a bad day.  I bet its the cashier that called his attention, else he would've gambled until his loses are up to $200 or more.

When you're losing as a gambler, there is  apex possibility of making wrong decisions because you're under serious pressure and your mind is distorted. Only someone not gambling for gains will be able to advise himself and pull out of that situation when his budgeted funds are dried up.

Addiction, greed and desperation of chasing the losses.

You'd see this normally in the physical betting shop when someone who still want to gamble but has lost everything that he brought. You'd be surprise that someone is going to approach you and will sell the gadgets that he's got and even watches that they wear.

At much worse case scenario, even the branded things that they have like clothes, bags, and all of those material things. That's why it's not shocking when someone goes to that point of losing everything but just can't accept defeat and want to stay longer through means of selling their stuff.

It could be addiction, it could be greediness, and it could possibly be both.
Or maybe the youngman just innocently got carried away in the game that he totally forgot when he ran short of money, and when his pocket got empty, it could be either of this, but what ever be the reason or his reason, the truth remains that this is such an embarrassing situation and I wonder why he would allow himself get into such.
I understand that sometimes, people lose money genuinely while on their way to a place, like when their wallet containing their money fall down and they don't take notice, but then, if the young man doesn't have such excuse and it's genuine, then I think he should check himself, this incident may possibly be the warning he needs or prayed for, he should draw himself back from his gambling, for in the end, gambling is not for everyone, and even if everyone gambles, still, not everyone would win.

Wisdom is no doubt needed in gambling and we should be disciplined and smart with it, if not, we may be wise but the emotion might make us set it aside and act based on the current situation that is caused by our emotions. Good determination is also needed in gambling, and I said this because many would know what to do, but when it comes to the time to do it, they would be doing another thing. This is bad and only emotion can cause it, but determination changes the narrative. This is why I can always advise that the gambler should first know what he is doing. To know this, you learn and discover/develop a gambling style. Then you proceed to have good management which entails the budget and others, and from there, you get to train yourself about the psychological aspect of gambling.

This aspect and that of management are the issues here, and when they are carefully solved, everything will be fine. But note, before any gambler walks into the physical casinos or bets online, they must have had a purpose, know the time to spend, the money to spend in that session and the calculation of how the money would be spent. If any gambler can do that and is truthful to the implementation thereof, what the OP says and even what you replied to, including your post's concern would be avoided.

I always say that gambling is not bad on its own, it is the approach many of us are playing it with that makes it bad and makes most people tag it as irresponsible.

I would say that's gambling over gambling lol. Expecting to win a profit and rely on luck. It's a risk that I can't take to do in reality. If lack of funds, then stop and go home instead of pushing for more. There's no Plan B on that action as losing the bet will result in a problem. It's a bet that the man just relies on his God to give him the luck to win. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

Eagerness to win gone wrong. Hope he will learn the lesson after that incident.

The first thing that making them to gamble extra is the addiction. When you are gambling addicted you might even empty your house properties. Those are normal behaviours happens in casino sports betting Halls and that is why when  you visit the hall don't place any game for anyone because you might end up of paying something you don't even play. And if you do in the place those obnoxious characters would attack you and make you to pay for it. The boy that played the game deliberately do it because has no money again to continue the gambling and the best way to do that so he can leave the place with quarrel without paying for the game. Those are some of their behaviors. That is why some sports bookmakers take money before placing bet for anyone to avoid arguments.

Yes, those three things can leads gamblers to lose their money without having a chance to recover their lost. Someone who lose their money because playing gambling can sells their gadget or anything that they brought so they can have money to continue playing gambling. It's a signs that they are having addiction to gambling because they can't stops themselves from playing gambling. If they have a good self-control, they will not do that instead will leaves the casino without having thinking much about selling their gadgets.

Yes, that can happens to many gamblers who already addicted to gambling because they will not thinks twice to sells their stuff to have money. Their reasons is only one which is they can have money and continue to play gambling and recovers their lose. But this can attracts them to gets more losses without they realize and when they don't have anything, they will regrets it.

That's called as ignorance.

It seems like the gambler know if he don't have any money left, but he tried to take a risk in hoping he will win and he might able to recover all of his previous losses. Unfortunately the results went opposite and he don't know what to do to pay the winners.

Even the owner already inviting the police to settle the case, I believe he won't pay it and it's a loss for the owner since he will pay with his own pocket to the winners.

Probably, frustration right? most of the time when a gambler gets frustrated with a game, that is when he gets hit by his emotion ending up wanting to win more and his greediness is going to hit and put him to make a bet that he cannot really afford, for sure there are some gamblers that know this limitation but I mean if you are frustrated you could easily do anything that is wrong.

There are also some cases where the gambler becomes overconfident, what I mean is that first, he or she doesn't really have money to start betting with, he just started a bet without even having the money to pay, and he or is just overconfident that he is going to win, or probably what they called a sure win, I have a friend who uses this kind of strategy if you can even call it a strategy, he just doesn't have any kind of money but knowing that he is going to win, he bet money on a game even though he don't have money to pay because he know that he is surely going to win that. This means he is going to make money without even having the investment to start with, then that win could easily snowball to a lot more wins, and then after he already has won all of the money of his opponent which is pretty crazy since you could easily get into trouble doing that.

Everyone knows to be knowledgeable and disciplined, yet emotions enter the conversation and throw all that wisdom out the window. The situation is frustrating. Good determination, you said? Absolutely. Knowing you should eat healthy, but seeing pizza destroys your diet. We know what to do, but doing it? The true fight.

Learning and establishing a gambling style is smart and necessary. If you dont learn, you're giving the casino money. Dont even mention budgeting. Most dreams end there. Without a plan, you'll fail. I'll be honest - gambling's reputation comes from those who dont respect it. Its not gambling thats wrong, but how people gamble without a plan and abandon discipline. I always advise gambling wisely, not hard. Maybe the "gambling is irresponsible" narrative would change if everyone did that. We can dream, right?

Some sports bookmakers who has had this kind of experience for several occasions has resolved to taking money before ever letting the gamblers to go because they will become problematic if it happens that they eventually didn't get to pay and the book marker is insisting on collecting their payments. Gamblers who do this most times are intentional about it because they know that they will always be room for them to be pardoned and so they would want to use such opportunity to still try again and hop to pay if they eventually win which sometimes they don't.

I wouldn't advice you get to the point you will be willing to put your properties as a collateral to gamble because in some cases you may actually not be able to redeem it again a d that will affect you adversely due to the fact that you may not be able to get back your properties in extreme cases.

Since you said that the police were involved means gambling is legal in your country and at what you should know that the shop agent is at fault and that the gambler may have won the case and not even dropped his phone as he option to earlier, the reason being that he will need to phone to access the money to settle that bills incurred from the bets.
Why should an agent bet a game for a gambler when they have not paid, is it that gamblers are gambling on credits in the casino and if so is the case, it then means that the casino house should give the gambler time to sort out the vills, and since this is a civil case the police will not take it serious than to caution them and let the debt be paid in full regardless of the time it will take to pay off the debt.

Not just ignorance; what the gambler does in that situation is showing how desperate he is to the point that he will let destiny do the work, but unfortunately the time and moment didn't side him; instead, he experiences a great loss that will surely make him suffer. I don't want to say that it's good that it happens to him, but the thing is that happenings should be a lesson to him because if not and he will still spend a huge amount of money just to gamble without thinking about the circumstances, then he will be of help. As a gambler, thankfully, I still don't experience that scenario, as I also don't let my money be used in gambling as I value my money, and I also don't gamble out of desperation. I always keep my mind and self in check in order to avoid placing a bet or playing gambling.

He obviously addicted, because that's the one reason for anyone to actually go beyond what their pocket is carrying in the process of playing your gamble in a shop and for this kinds of situation, I have seen them countless times and all the end to the story is the same as an addiction is mainly the cause for such behavior by a gambler.

Op your narration is actually true because i have actually witnessed a scene where such thing happened. But regarding your question concerning addiction and greediness i can also tell you that his reason might not be either of the two. His actions or what propelled him to play that visual might be financial instability, family problems, rents, children's school fees and many more and he is probably seeking for an alternative to stabilize his financial needs.

In addition, most gamblers are not addicted or greedy, they actually gamble in other to solve the problem that they are facing at that particular point in time  .In most countries where  the economy has not been very friendly with her citizens, as a result of bad governance and lack of job opportunities however, most of the citizens result to trying their lucks through gambling to know if luck will shine on them in other for them to meet up with their domestic and social needs and that does not actually means that they are greedy or addicted but they act out of frustration.

Both!
In my country, gambling is prohibited, but it is a crime to go to an establishment and consume a service or product knowing that you will not be able to pay for it.
Maybe this gentleman didn't want to act in bad faith and just forgot? could it be. But even so, this probably happened because he was so addicted to the casino that he only thought about getting to his destination quickly without worrying about something that is "basic" for anyone: checking if he has money before leaving home.

In any case, probably at some point he remembered that he was out of money, and that's where greed comes in... because he was confident that he could earn more and that way he wouldn't need to withdraw the money.

Both addiction and greediness. Not being able to control himself to refrain from placing bets since he don't have money anymore shows that he is already addicted. This kind of scenario is not really surprising because they tend to do things that only addicted gamblers can do.

The greed to gain money in gambling is pushing someone to become an addicted gambler and continue playing. If you have this desire as your goal on why you gamble in the first place, it will likely result for you to become addicted since your main reason is not to entertain yourself. Many gamblers are still playing without control even there are plenty of reminders on how to gamble in moderation. We really can't force someone to do as we say.

There are many reasons which could explain why this may happen, the most simple one is that he simply forgot his wallet or maybe he thought he had more money there than the amount he actually brought to the casino.

But it is also possible that the problem is that he has gambled for so long that he ran out of money, you were the one there so you probably know which one is the most likely, but if it is the latter then being addicted, intoxicated or being in a state of tilt could be possible explanations to this behavior.

Addiction may be a very damaging force in someone's life, leading them to make decisions they would not normally make. This can cause a variety of problems, including financial troubles, relationship breakdowns, and even legal issues. This is something that should be taken very seriously.
We can also consider other psychological issues that can influence gambling behavior. For example, there is the gambler's fallacy, which is the false notion that a bad streak would be followed by a good streak. This can encourage someone to continue betting even if they are losing money.
 There's also something called the sunk cost fallacy, which is the idea that people will keep investing in something, even when it's not a good investment, because they've already invested so much time or money into it. This is a common problem amongst gamblers, it's in other words known as chasing losses.

Indeed, when someone has experienced a big loss they will lose self-control and discipline or boundaries no longer exist within them so the aim is only to recovered the losses they have used for gambling, from the start if they know that gambling is a game full of risks they should not take the wrong steps. Disciplined and responsible people will not resort to gambling more than what they can afford to lose. If they have lost a lot of losses, it mean they are no longer called disciplined gamblers because they have stepped out of the nature of responsibility that a gambler should have limits and obey the rules so as not to experiences bad things such as increasingly unstoppable losses.

Losing in gambling has become part of the game and we must be prepared for that if we decide to gamble and not try to chase losses or be greedy in gambling games. Someone will definitely regret it if they lose, therefore many people make wrong decisions just to get their money back, but if they continue to think like that they will no longer get pleasure and may eventually become addicted just because it is difficult to control themselves.

Although I haven't experienced such an incident yet, I think it is definitely due to an addiction and greed. When a gambler goes to play betting, if he does not have money in hand, he must deposit the parts he has with him and start betting with money. Although the guy you saw bet money with his mobile allotment it is not at all right, but I think he is addicted to huge amount of bets. If that person was not addicted to gambling then he would never have thought of mortgaging his mobile phone, instead he would gamble later when he had money. However, I think it means that his motives and his greed worked which made him do such a stupid thing anyway, no one should do such a thing, but it is best to refrain from it.

Addiction is something that gamblers experience and the cause is of course greed and excessive self-confidence. They want to win more money. They firmly believe that gambling can bring them wealth and change their fate. These are the thoughts experienced by someone when starting to become addicted to gambling. I have a friend who is recovering from a gambling addiction as I said in another thread. They become addicted and greedy because they do not think that gambling is not a source of income. And winning the jackpot requires luck that you can't predict. And you shouldn't expect to be that lucky person because there are many losses that you will experience if you gamble too much.

When a gambler experiences gambling addiction and greed, he will only continue to gamble without stopping because he thinks that gambling has become an important part of his life. He will deposit more money to gamble without estimating how much money he will spend gambling.
They will think about how they can have money to keep gambling, and they might pawn their smartphones or other valuable stuff so they can have money. And once they have money, they will immediately use it to gamble because that has become the focus of their life.
He wouldn't think why he did something stupid like that because he didn't want to do other things that could provide benefits, but instead, he fell deeper into gambling. That's why we must always practice self-control and limit our gambling because that is what can prevent us from gambling addiction and also greed.

A gambling addict is ready to do anything to gamble. I have not seen it but reading many posts I have seen some addicts have kidnapped their grandsons for gambling and killed their fathers for gambling. Thousands of such incidents are heard from individuals so a gambling addict is ready to do anything to get his gambling done. This has never happened to me because I use a fixed budget of income for gambling and I don't spend any money outside of the fixed budget on the gambling platform. I don't care about the losing budget if I lose on this budget that I spend on gambling. Every person should use a certain budget of income for gambling and also should take gambling as a pastime. When a person takes gambling as a pastime and uses a fixed income budget, that person will never become addicted to gambling.

I've never been to a physical casino, and I'm not planning to, but I'm dumbfounded that people actually do this. Has anyone witnessed himself seeing someone trying to sell their watches, phones, or other gadgets they're using just to continue gambling after already losing a large sum of money? I believed that it only happened in the movies; that's the only place I've seen it, but I hadn't realized that this is probably something that isn't unusual in the real world. I didn't see many replies claiming to have witnessed it, so that at least makes me a little more optimistic that it's not happening too frequently. However, it's not too different from selling your personal belongings in order to acquire money to gamble., which unfortunately is a common behavior addicts engage in.

It's not happening too frequently again but it used to happen very much back in the days and I have done it too. One time I was too desperate to gamble as I was sure of myself of being very lucky that day but didn't have any money on me, I sold my watch and used the money to gamble, I lost all the money that day still and ever since I don't try doing it again regardless of how sure of myself about a game. Even if I get a cheat to use for winning, I won't sell any of my property to do that.

Visit physical casino and you might encounter some individual doing this, some gamblers would had over gambled more than they budgeted for and they don't have any more money on them therefore they'll have to sell something on them to raise the money to pay the casino. Those that are victims are always gambling addicts or those individual that are too greedy, they always want to win but aren't lucky.

Addiction refers to the inability to control the urge to gamble despite the consequences. While Greediness means wanting more than what is needed. Both can have severe consequences. Most probably the gentleman from your story was struggling with addiction or was being greedy, he kept betting until he ran out of money. It's important to seek help and gamble responsibly.

In his case, it is a different thing when you go into gambling house to mortgage your phone to have to play your bet. He had already started playing and lost all his money, there was no other option for him if not to drop his phone to replace his debt until he comes back with money to redeem his debt to collect his phone.

His experience is peculiar to visual betting because it is a live bet and sometimes you also get carried away thinking you still have some money more left with you. It is peculiar to such betting and not necessarily that such person going through that at the time is an addicted gambler because I have also seen a newbie visual gambler running into such situation and the option left for the gambling agent is to collect their belonging worth of the bet owed or belonging that will make the debtor gambler come to redeem his debt. Usually in cases like that in different gambling shops what they mortgage is mostly the phone.

They are all wrong, the only thing that's capable of changing someones e financial problem is if they can learn something new, a rare skills will get you there faster than trying to get rich will gambling, there are some very lucrative skills even in this crypto space that's way better, highest paying kind of skills, like coding and block chain building.

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Gambling is very deceiving, that's why the Bible is against this practice, it leads the mind astray easily, and only those who have strong mind can stay one step ahead of the temptations of gambling, it's not easy to be a responsible gambler, and gambling isn't something that everyone can engage with.

If you are looking forward to make a lot of money, you should look into something else, gambling isn't something that pay you for anything, you are trying to beat the house and the house is also planning to make some money every day.

It happens to the physical casinos, someone will approach you randomly and you totally don't know that stranger will ask you to buy their thing because they've lost.

It's a normal scene and you already know the reason why they'd do that.

It's a real thing. And there are even worse like it's a dark secret in the physical casinos that they don't just these material stuff but even themselves. You know and get that?

That's worse honestly and knowing that there is no gender bias in there, you'll really get to know those dark secrets aside from this.

I think you already have the answer to your question and you’re just posting this for the sake of idk, impressions in the forum or post count to reach the quota (no offense meant). But whatever that is, I’ll humor you  and settle something of debate here.

Greed can get you far, desperation can get you further. Pretty sure the guy already knew what he’s getting himself in and pushed for greediness because he’s desperate as hell to bag that win for the guy who entrusted him with the money. He’s probably down on his luck and is counting on those little wins to come by so he can at the very least breka even, and when that didn’t happen and he dried the old guy’s whole bankroll, he opted for the more “financially irresponsible, but logically sensible move” to do which is pawning his phone to the old man. This happens all the time in the real world and I’m pretty sure he’s not gonna be the last guy to receive that feeling of impending doom when someone’s obliging you to pay up.

Understandable, the online casinos have severely impacted the attendance at physical ones, thus, you can't bet your watch or smartphone when you're behind a computer; you can sell them though, which isn't too different.

Back to you now, at least you're acknowledging that your approach wasn't the best, your text sounds apologetic and that you've regretted it. I'm guessing became a lesson to not get carried away like that again, because you'll only lose in the process. It's a very unfortunate scenario, I'm imagining that these items sold on casinos just to keep gambling are often gifts from loved ones and it just looks too painful to give away something like that.

You don't need to be told that this is a result of gambling addiction. It is only addiction that can make a gambler spend all his income on the gambling shop and still play extra hoping he will win to pay the debt. This is only possible in physical shops though because online gambling will not allow a gambler gamble above his account balance.

This is a regular happenings in physical shops in my neighborhood. There are some people that spend most of their times daily in a gambling shops looking for who to assist them with cash to place their games after losing all they have. They are mostly those who plays virtual games that are settled very fast.

The truth is that this kind of character create bad impression about gamblers, many people see gamblers as destitutes due to the activities of these people that have not first figured and plan their finances before getting too deeply involved in gambling.

It doesn't come to me as a surprise because I've seen it many times. A gambler would walk into a betting shop with the intention of staking his bet and going home. When he sees a virtual game on the screen that he thinks would play, he'd bet on it and after he must have ended up emptying his pockets, he'd start begging his fellow gamblers money or go home not placing his bet. In such situation I don't think the gambler is being greedy rather he's addicted to gamble that he has no control over his funds.

To be honest, I don't get it. This whole thing had to be happening in some third world country because nobody will call the police to settle a $15 matter in the UK. Most likely the client will be blacklisted and told to never come back, but that's basically a cost of a pizza or a few drinks.
If the gambler had no money, this is the casino's problem because they're supposed to take money upfront. You pay before the game, or you buy chips, which is actually the same thing.
Anyway, if he was forced to leave the phone and agreed to it, that's on the gambler. I wouldn't but my phone is worth much more than what was owed.

We have funds but it doesn't mean we're suppose to trigger them on gambling without any solid significance. Gambling is risky but those that have what it takes will continue to strengthen their bonds and become prosperous in the system. Money is generated for our good because it's fuel up our energy and gambling strategies to continue milking the system. This awful incident will always happen to those gamblers that doesn't have what it takes to gamble and brings on the unpredictable conditions of having losses.

Yes, that happens to someone who loss much money but he wants to continue playing gambling. He asks someone to buy his thing in a cheap price so he can have money and playing gambling to trying to recover his losses.

That's a bad thing that people must avoid because that will not gives them a chance to gets their stuff/thing back. They don't knows that continue playing gambling can makes them losing more money. It's better they stops and leaves the casino to prevent the next losses. The situations will become worst if they want to continue playing gambling because their minds will not thinks about the losing they gets.

The factors are many and varied, the world of gambling that we know often makes people darken their eyes and act anarchically and arbitrarily, if they experience defeat it doesn't only happen in physical casinos, online casinos, sometimes we often see strange behavior that they do.

This addiction and greed factor occurs suddenly, it comes when the user experiences a loss. where they have spent a lot of money in the gambling arena, but never won, even if they win they will think today is my luck, so they want to catch up on yesterday's losses, without realizing that they have shown their greedy nature and the next game they experience will have a bad impact on them, that is what many gambling and greedy addicts often feel.

Well that is something very unfortunate, the fact that a person does not have control over their money and gets carried away by emcoins, impulses and everything that they can want to chain a disorderly game is what can normally happen to someone like that, I saw that ago At some point, I went into a famous casino in a city in Colombia, and there I started to see the roulette, the slot machines, but I was simply looking, but I saw a man of approximately 50 years old, he was playing and he was winning. In the roulette, I remember that he had won a lot of money and he did not withdraw money but instead bet even more and I saw that he started to lose, he had a lot of money, it was enough for him to spend about 3 days in the country without any problems indulging in luxuries, but The truth is that when I saw he had lost half of it , and he became desperate and began to betray more and more, and when I saw that he no longer had any money left, at least from what he was earning for him, then he took out approximately a few of his own money. 150 dollars and started spending everything.

At one point, things later got out of control, he lost everything, he didn't have a single peso left and he had to walk home, because he didn't even have any money left, and then only he saw that it started to get worse. The madman, because he felt sorry for those who were watching him, was very unfortunate for him.

In my opinion, I would sum it all up to addiction to gambling.  With addiction, all other negative emotions and feelings are bound to follow sooner.
An addicted gambler would be greedy, selfish and desperate. Such an individual would be bound to do just about anything to keep playing in false unrealistic high expectations of wining some good money. Such people are not strangers to selling off their properties for cash to satisfy the deep urge to gamble and would sell, steal and creates various schemes in order to get the money to gamble.

I ordinarily don’t get surprised when I come upon acts like this but addicts continue to come up with new and surprising ideas for getting money to satisfy their desires.

Multiple factors affect a gambler's brain to act this way, although most people would tag it addiction. It's a symptom, especially when the gambler begins to sell his property to generate money. But the major factor is the expectations gamblers have within, before gambling. They, before gambling, already think the game will fetch or add more money to their resources. Once, that has been instigated on the player's brain, he wouldn't stop gambling, unless satisfied with a sustainable win. Continuously endangering the situation, by participating constantly in the act will lead to addiction.

The reaction can as well be exhibited by non-addicts, in unexpected days. You could see them leaving the casino wearing a frowned face. Due to their expectations not being met, the gambler doesn't feel comfortable leaving the casino with no money. Which he may have budgeted on other expenses. Another factor is lack of gambling orientation. Naive players want to get wealthy via gambling and solve their financial issues. They are not told how gambling operates. The player sees himself chasing wealth with no sign of success.

Well, they know what will happen to them upon doing those sale.

Most expensive stuff there are also bought with their profits from their bets so, it's easy for them to dispose and sell it cheaply. I guess there are lucky watchers out there that are just looking for these kind of gamblers.

Those that are in need of quick cash and they'd sell their stuff and sometimes gadgets too that are being sold there in good condition but I wouldn't advise you guys to go in there.

There could also be moduses inside there and they'll wait for you outside the premises and might do something bad against you.

It would  follow sooner if you do able to tolerate out such condition on which you would really be putting up yourself on such no control on the things you've been currently dealing.
Its not really that bad to gamble as long you do make yourself that responsible then this would really be the key because if you do let yourself that becoming that impulsive then
expect that it would really be ending up as a disaster into your life and this is something that you should really be avoiding as much as you could.

Gambling should be something entertaining and not something stressful.It is really just that because of someones wrong intent on why gambling do really ends up
on having this kind of negative reputation specially into communities view because they are focusing into those people who had been greatly
affected by it.

Every negative factor that you can think of for each gambler is what makes someone put into those bad situations.
Greediness, check.
Addiction, check.
Desire to gamble, check.
Chasing of losses, check.
And as much as we can see, these are the normal thing that we see for a gambler to be in that bad situation. Luckily, I haven't been into this situation when I am already aware on how bad can make my life when I am not in control. And that's why I didn't pursue or always try to make myself at the right mind for me to not get into the trouble that I will regret later on. When our desires are too high and as well as greediness together with emotions, our intelligence drops dead and that's why we need to be aware of these matters that triggers us because we're the loser at the end of it.

When someone who playing gambling selling his property to have money to continuing playing gambling, he must know that's not a good solution because he will not know if he can win or lose. If he thinks that playing gambling can gives him money, that's not fully right because playing gambling can makes him lose money instead makes money. He needs to manage his minds and not endangering himself by playing gambling and losing much money.  Gambling will never gives a steady income for people so they must know that they can only playing gambling carefully with limitations.

When they regret because of losing on the gambling games, they will leave casinos with regrets and will feel is not right. They may wanting to recover their losing money but if they wise, they will see that's not easy and they can only losing more than before. Once they lose their money, they will want to recovers their losses in the other day because they can't accepted their loss and that's why many people still trying to playing gambling longer than before. They will always wants to chase the win even if that is difficult for them as they don't thinks that they will always lose. They must change their minds for making money from gambling because that will difficult because many people already loses their money from gambling.

Some people doesn't think about what will happen to them as they only wants to continue playing gambling with their money. They will use the money from the stuff they sold to other people to playing gambling and trying to recovers their losses and wins some money. Some people who bought that stuff can feel happy because they can buy a luxury stuff with a cheap price and they will search for the other people who wants to sell their stuff.

Those who doesn't thinks about selling their stuff will only regrets, a big regrets especially if they lose all of their money. They will not have their stuffs because they don't have money to buy back the stuff. They will regrets but unfortunately, that will not makes them stops this habits.

Gambling addiction is a horrible beast that can transform even the most level-headed individual into a money-hungry, deceiving monster. It's like a negative feedback cycle of emotions and behaviors, where one bad decision leads to the next, and before you know it, you're selling off your possessions and lying to everyone you know to feed your addiction.

Addiction is a powerful force that can overwhelm your rational thinking, forcing you to do things you would never do otherwise. It can start tiny, but before you realize it, you're in deep. The only thing that matters more to you at this point is fueling and satisfying your gambling urges, even at your expense and also the expense of others arounds you.

Someone who has experienced an addiction to gambling will certainly be braver in doing things that are beyond people's expected habits and they will also have a bad impact on those closest to them. When they don't have the money to be able to gamble, of course the habit of the addict is to ask for loans from those closest to them. them and it is very difficult to be able to pay off their debts even if they win the gambling they play.

This type of gambler often puts on a sad face when borrowing money and when he wins he immediately forgets about the borrower, in this case usually his friend. I think that when he holds the winnings, all of it is spent to have fun and when the money runs out he will go back to borrowing again. It is better to avoid gamblers as this sometimes will only cause problems if they continue to provide relief.

This is what makes someone ask about "is there an indirect impact on others due to the behavior of someone who is addicted to gambling", of course because it is a fact that loans like this are often done or even used as an alternative by addicted gamblers when they do not have money to gamble. As you said, the scenario is that they put on a sad face and say that the purpose of the loan is for other very important and urgent things that are actually for gambling.

This scenario makes the people closest to them or the borrower can feel sorry for them who in the end lend money and after that the problem occurs, because someone who is addicted to gambling that is in his mind is to continue gambling and sometimes even though they win but not long after that all the winning money is again used up in gambling because they have difficulty ignoring the greed aspect in themselves so that the situation and situation always ends in losing. Someone who is addicted to gambling is those who when they win apply greed because they cannot be grateful for the amount they get which in the end makes them lose again, and when they lose it is usually difficult for them to control their emotions and look for other alternatives such as borrowing to return to gambling with the intention of returning something that was lost before. On the other hand, I agree with your suggestion that if you do have a friend who is quite active in gambling or even who is addicted to it, then don't get too close to him, put limits on socialization because after all this is for your own good too.

Ironically, some players know how gambling operates but still have such expectations from it, and when you ask them or tell them they are never going to get what they are trying to get from gambling, they either ignore what you say or start arguing with you. Some would make excuses to avoid talking to you about the matter. The thing is, they know about the risks involved, they often lose money, but they still don't stop because of the hope they have fixed in their minds.

What's worst is that such people don't work, I mean they don't look for jobs to earn a living by other means and they are always looking for ways to earn money from gambling, searching for strategies, getting money from here and there to gamble with it, but every single time, they face failure but still don't learn.

Yes that's right, I think some players already know about how gambling works especially the difficulty in terms of getting a win, but yes like you said and it's true that they always do the same actions that are not in accordance with the actual facts about gambling, and I think one of the reasons is that they are easily carried away because they lose consciousness in themselves so they make the same mistakes that actually they also know that it is the wrong way, but like I said that losing consciousness due to being carried away by things that look tempting is a major contributing factor in this problem.

From what you said about the worst case being someone who is not working who continues to try to make money by gambling, I would probably say that they are losers and lazy people who want to earn money but do not want to work and instead put their hopes on something that has absolutely no certainty to guarantee victory at the end of the session. It has always been a fact that gambling has absolutely no certainty because everything is always random in terms of determining whether you will win or lose, and the conclusion from this context is that some people try to make gambling a way to solve their financial problems instantly, and this is a wrong mindset and understanding of gambling.

I dunno but this seems to be not allowed in gambling places here in my location , money down is what gambling here as there are many cheaters .
and if ever this comes to me? never that i will do same thing as I hate being disturb by authority having cases.
but what I did in the past is lending my phone to another gambler just to have money to make a  bet.

That is the nature of someone who is addicted to gambling, he never thinks about anyone, what is on his mind is how he can continue gambling. What's more, the person is experiencing a big loss in gambling, of course he will think hard and be obsessed with finding a way to continue playing so he can win in his gambling bets. They will definitely use various methods, whether it is seeking additional funds through loans, fraud, or other illegal behavior to support their gambling habits.

Well said, in this, we have to admit that both addiction and greediness work in hand, one leads to the other and they both have a serious negative consequences on gamblers when they fail not to deal with such before it emancipates, this has to begin with the way are are being disciplined on our own self, we can be gambling the way we feels like and never consider the consequences that may follow each every of our actions taken when gambling.

sometimes addiction leads to stupidity. he thought that when he played the virtual game he could win, and then he would pay the bet, but unfortunately he lost both games which made him quite stupid. fortunately, he has a smartphone which he can use as collateral for the gambling owner, because otherwise you can't imagine that he would have to deal with the police just because of a small amount of gambling money.

A gambler who spends all his money on gambling can be considered as someone who is addicted to gambling. They don't consider gambling as entertainment or don't gamble just for fun anymore, but they try to find a solution to their problems through gambling. Therefore they will not be aware when making impulsive decisions, such as spending all their money on a risk that they cannot actually win.

It's not just a stupid act, but also a hopelessness that drives them to keep gambling in the hope of being able to recoup their losses and solve their problems. However, the hope they have in mind is actually something false because what will happen will make them even worse.

That's right, I also often find the type of gambler like you said, they are very good at causing sadness when asking for a loan, but when they win a bet, they don't remember that they still have a loan that they haven't paid and they repeat their habit again, which is true. It's better for us to avoid people who have this kind of character because this will be very detrimental to us and make it impossible for us to return the money we have if we continue to give it.

It seems shameful that such a situation led to such a situation. Sometimes addiction really doesn't bring anything good when it's put in a bad situation, to be honest.
I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never experienced anything like this. As long as mine is used up, there's no stopping me, just like that.

Also, if it reaches your family or relatives, it will cause more shame, so it is important that we still have discipline in ourselves so that it does not lead to that.

Someone like that will only learn their lesson once they are completely alone and there is no one around the help them when they really need it, such an ending is really sad but we cannot say that is not deserved.

After all, their friends knowing very well they had gambling problems still lent them money, giving them a chance to use that money for what they truly needed, and when this did not happened their friends had to take the decision to let them go, otherwise they will financially ruin them too if they are not careful.

Addiction doesn't allow you to think, the individual didn't consider what are the contents of his phone, the could have being a cryptocurrency investors and had his wallets on his phone or other information that when the casino owners take the phone will have access to and he can take all his remaining investors all as he couldn't control himself and gamble responsible. This is just one example of why gambling responsibly is important, don't forget yourself when gambling.

Gambling addiction and greediness works together, when you're not satisfied with what you have you'll become greedy and it can cause addiction. Addicts are those that can do anything just to get the opportunity of continue gambling. The users could have stakes more personal belongings if the phone staking didn't work for him and he lost the bets. Many gamblers are suffering from addiction problems.

Yes, all of that is because gambling addiction can have a bad impact on others, especially the people around them so that people prefer to limit themselves to people who are already addicted because what is worried is that yes, you may also already know that it is likely for someone who is close to an addicted gambler to experience some problems as a result of their friends who are already addicted. And yes I think such a situation is natural because after all and anyone does not want to experience problems or experience the bad effects of gambling addiction experienced by others.

True, on the other hand, yes, some of their friends should not give more loans to friends who are already addicted because it is clear that the original context is not to help in a better direction but instead will further plunge people who are already addicted to go further in terms of suffering from adversity due to excessive gambling, it's like you give an opportunity to an addicted person to dig a deeper hole to bury themselves, and on the other hand I am sure that someone who is already addicted will be very difficult to pay their debts because all they always think about is gambling.

In this case for one to play gamble to the extent of not having money to pay for other games. Having a mindset of seeing gambling as a source of income. This person have so much expectation that money can be made while playing , I think having a mindset like this can be as a result of greed, addiction and taking gambling as a job, all these can cause one to keep playing expecting that money can be made in gambling.

This happens when gamblers fails to understand that gambling is unpredicted and playing with much amount of money is not a guarantee to win in gambling. Ignorance is the cause why people play gambling in such manner, and at last it makes them to become addicted to gamble.

Problem: gambling addiction is as enormous as the wall. Imagine being a hotshot bitcoin investor and then boom! Addiction has you stifled in the casino.

Responsible gambling is a successful strategy, not just advise. Ponder this. Winning is your goal, not just playing. And winning involves understanding when to hold and fold, right? We're fighting addiction and greed. The pair convinces you more is never enough. The key to winning - and I know how to win - is playing wisely, not betting more.

Share empathy for those stuck in this spiral, but act on it. We need plans, support, and a winning mindset that says, "Im in control." People, be wise. If you lost a bet, would you give up your empire?

I agree with what you say, because depositing a lot of money is not the solution, when you play in the casino and you don't win, the player must always evaluate his options, that of winning and if he is not successful, then at least you could have fun spending a different time that should be enough, casinos with their house advantage guarantee their own winnings and that is something you must accept and know, you cannot think that when depositing a lot of money in the casino, the casino has to respond with a big win for the player, that is not correct and is one of the things that many newbies think.

I do not recommend playing in a casino with a lot of money, but with the money that you can afford to lose, because when you lose a lot of money the first thing that happens almost instinctively is to recover it, and that is a difficult task for gamblers who take it as revenge, they can achieve the goal of recovering that money, because it is among the options that can happen, but if that does not happen, it can be a direct path to addiction, so these types of acts should be avoided at all costs by a player, which is why When it comes to spending money to play you have to accept that loss, and in the casino losing is not a reason for shame, it is the most normal thing in the world.

The inability to accept the fact of losing and greed is always a trigger for someone to end up in a cycle of addiction, the inability to accept the fact of possible risks makes a gambler trapped in many actions that are driven by their own emotions and also dissatisfaction about the amount of winnings that are generated can also make them apply greed and all this happens because they gamble with the aim of earning which is actually instead of earning but in fact they suffer a number of losses that can be even much bigger when they are unable to realize their mistakes to stop the action that is not recommended.

That's right, that when someone has entered the addiction cycle then they will find it difficult to ignore the time and money at all not to gamble, it all happens because they put hope in winning so that every time they only think of ways to gamble with the aim of realizing what is in their minds such as big wins, and also when they don't have a budget to gamble then usually what I see is that they make loans as an alternative to financing their gambling activities, but actually that is not an alternative but an action that will cause new problems such as getting into debt.

Even if all of those are huge factors that make someone to move towards addiction, most likely the very first mistake they commit are the false expectations they have out of gambling.

For example, when it comes to myself, the only thing I expect out of gambling is to have some fun with it, I do not really have any big plans of making a huge amount of money with it as I know it is not possible, however I am sure that many of those that became addicted had a very different attitude, and deep down what they wanted to achieve while gambling was to obtain some fast profits, and when this did not happened, that is when they began their downward spiral towards addiction.

That's not a good idea if someone playing gambling until he lost all of his money without calculate how much money he can used. He can gets deeper in gambling. He will thinks that gambling is the only activity that he can do. He must changes his minds and not thinks about gambling as a source of income because that can makes them losing much money. A gambler can becomes greedy or addicted to gambling when he playing gambling for a long time and don't thinks about stop gambling for some time.

That's why gamblers must controls himself while playing gambling and prevents him not to playing gambling for a long time. A gambler must learned about self-control and other things to prevents many problems that can occurs because in gambling, someone can changes his habit and behaviors and else when he can't stop himself from playing gambling.

Gambling is a game of chance and is at best a type of entertainment. But the false image of gambling inside the brain of many common people is that it can be used to make loads of money. This is similar to stereotypes and hence needs to be broken and the reality put in front of these people.

However it is tough to stop such people when they addicted over time even if they might actually realize that they are having losses more than they win, it is too late.

They will deposit more and more and lose more, eventually ending up in debt and putting their entire family at risk. But this can be prevented very early.

Well, for me, it's difficult to state for certain what was going on in this situation. However, I believe it is crucial to acknowledge that this type of circumstance is not unusual. Gambling addiction is a very real and severe disease, with terrible implications for individuals who suffer from it. One of the most important things to know about gambling addiction is that it involves more than simply money. Gambling addiction is frequently associated with depression, anxiety, and relationship troubles. It is critical to get assistance if you or someone you love is battling with gambling addiction. There are several services accessible, and there's no shame in contacting for help. Also we should also be cautious of greediness, as it may lead to highly damaging behaviour if we are not vigilant and endeavour to prevent.

I have lost several times in gambling large sums of money about the spending of which then very sorry.  I think that this happens to every gambler at least once in a lifetime and I believe that all the blame for the excitement, greed and inability to control their finances. It seems to me that at such a moment gambler is so seized by excitement that he poorly understands what is happening and what can lead to spending all the money. After I started to limit my gambling budget this problem stopped bothering me. Now I lose small amounts of money that have a minor impact on my financial situation.

I don’t know if this is obtainable anymore because before a gambler leaves the house , he has budgets of the amount of money he is going out to spend .placing bet above my budget has never happened to me maybe probably because I book the game online and go the betting shop to just print it out and in my time of gambling I have never seen or heard such .But in most case if the person is addicted to visual games then this scenario can actually occur because most of the Time gamblers are addicts and they don’t stop until they end up owing the betting shop and this might result to collecting any of their gadgets or shoes just to recover their money back .
But it is every embarrassing that people will step out of their house to gamble only to spend more than their budgets, and end up owing a shop ,this occurs as a result of lack of emotional control and the quest to recover the previous lost amount .

While I agree with the most of the things you say and also about the importance of one having control over one's finances and budget to gamble. This does not exactly has much to do with the story which was shared to us by OP, as far as I understood what he said, he was talking about how someone in a betting shop decided to use their smartphone as some kind of warranty or collateral, since the person in questions did not have the cash to pay for the wager he wanted to place.
It is basically about using one one does not have to continue betting. I have seen situations like that one in movies and series, when one of the main characters runs out of money and starts to use his clothing, rings and other valuables as collateral to continue to play poker against his friends.
Though, I have not witnessed anything like it in real life before.

The issue of gamblers starts the moment they believe they can make money from it. It may still be limited in risk in that sense if the gambler is wise to have approached it carefully, but the moment the gambler allows desperation towards the earning of money through gambling, then the main issue starts. This is why you would see gamblers losing and do not know it is the right time to quit or take a break for fresh breath to be taken. Gambling should never be done in desperation, this will only bring in emotion, and when the gambler is emotional, anything could happen. This can now be aggravated depending on the kind of mind the gambler has. If the gambler is such that has a weak mind, then anything can happen. I've seen a gambler who needed to bet just $25 in the whole gambling session but ended up wasting $1115.

This is simply because such a gambler allows emotion to rule him. He must have thought that his luck was in the next game, but before he knew it, more losses were just piling, and his eyes must have cleared when he had lost that huge amount of money with either no more money to wager anymore or a friend/concerned people near to him cautioned him before he got his mind back. This is how gambling could be so devastating if we are not careful.

This is more reason why we should be disciplined as gamblers, as it's what can help us preserve our sanity towards it. We should have those calculations, budget and management, and also have viable plans that we should never deviate from no matter the situation on the betting floor.

Gambling with the expectation of profit is the first step to disaster. Once desperate, you're done. Emotions lead to pursuing losses, a deadly cycle. Simply put, this is how our minds work. High emotions cause bad decisions. The answer? Cold discipline. Set a budget; your law. Never change your plan based on successes or defeats. Once outside, you're on the casino's land. It's about knowing when to quit, not willpower. The complete game is there

Understanding money, humans, and addiction is the focus. Don't think you're special

As long as we still like gambling and placing bets, there is always the possibility that we could get addicted. And although the final outcome of gambling is full of uncertainty and unreliability, because gambling is full of surprises, many people are willing to spend their money, leave their jobs and also ignore their obligations in order to find these surprises and make a profit. However, because the final result of gambling is very difficult to predict with certainty and we never know when luck will strike. Many people without realizing it have experienced many losses and become addicted just because they are waiting for luck that never comes. They have lost a lot of money due to the gambling they do and the bets they place, and if they decide to stop these activities, then the losses they experienced previously will never be replaced, so they continue their gambling activities even if they have to take out loans or sell goods. personal items, because who knows, in the next gambling and betting session, victory and luck will be on his side.

Unfortunately, this is how it works. A casino is a place that shows the essence of a person like a mirror, and everyone can learn a lot of new and unpleasant things about themselves. That's why I always remember about addiction and advise my friends not to get too carried away. But at the same time, those who are weak in character easily become addicted and at the same time pervert even more. Become thieves. I'm not saying that this happens to everyone, but unfortunately it happens, and we all know many such cases. And every such case of problematic addiction is a broken family. After all, everyone has a wife, mother, and brothers.

Most likely in situations as this it's just have to be gambling addiction either playing out or gradually setting in and the gambler is yet to get into full blown addiction and it's the best time to get them help because beyond that stage it becomes even more difficult to ever render help to them because they now have too many triggers and at every slightest chance that triggers them they get to return back to their old habit.

It's very easier for newbies to get addicted because some of them stay excited for the longest of times and are definitely going to get into addiction before the get to realize it. All that which you did mentioned as been associated with gambling addiction is most definitely not far from the truth but the problem has always still been around the fact that people will still allow greed set in and not get to the point they will be able to understand that they could possibly prevent such from happening to them if only they can quit gambling early enough before they turn addicts.

Most gamblers have gone through this situations that is been caused by gambling but quitting has been their biggest challenge and it's almost always looking  like they can't quit because they are already too addicted to the game and they just continue bro adjust regardless of the pains and stress they go through gambling and that has been the biggest challenge to most gamblers even the experienced gamblers.

Addiction of course, on the time that you are already addicted to gambling then you would really be potentially be able to make those kind of acts which is really that obviously getting in line with addiction. We do know on where this one would really be ended up and we do know on where it would really be that going into which settlement could neither be solved out or not
because once that an addicted person will really be able to experience tough situations then this is where they would really be having that kind of realizations on the wrong things that they have done.
We do know on where these things do really start and on where it would really be ending up. The main thing that you should really be avoiding in the first place on the time that you do gamble
is not to make yourself that addicted. Once you do find yourself having that kind of problem then it would really be that hard to get out.

The point is that gambling must always be done based on common sense, a rational attitude and maintaining awareness, everything will most likely remain fine if for example we are able to manage and control gambling or whatever activity we do, and of course you have thoughts. a good one where you always message or remind other people, especially your friends, about the bad phase of addiction in gambling, where everyone has the same chance of ending up in that situation. Because on the other hand, gambling can be very entertaining and can also be very exciting and there are quite a few gamblers who end up getting carried away because of the many things that look tempting or tempting so that in the end they fall into it and gamble on the following path in the wrong way, all of that is very possible to happen when you start not being able to maintain consciousness while you are running a session and I think all gamblers have the same chance of experiencing this. Therefore, we are always advised to exercise full caution and vigilance and always maintain a level of awareness so that we are not easily trapped and carried away by the current.

Initial excitement with gambling can be a real trap for new players. New exciting experience for newbies can get them caught up in the wins and lose sight of the bigger picture. Beginners are more susceptible to addiction because of the initial thrill. The lack of understanding about the odds or the potential consequences could make them ignoring their affordable limits.

Being new in gambling makes them have bigger desire to win that can cloud judgment. They might not realize they're developing a problem until it's too late. They might not even notice the warning signs of addiction creeping in. The sooner someone stops gambling, the easier it is to avoid addiction. They need an early intervention, It's a tough situation, but recognizing it's a trap is the first step.

Addiction and Expectation is the cause of such situation, not really greed, they gamble putting there expectations in line so they play with all hopes. That's the reason why gambling with your huge expectations is bad, you believe and trust that such game will be a win, before you know it you risk more than your initial plan.  

Moderation and Discipline should be encouraged, if neglected the end result is always disastrous, so the proper orientation newbies have the better and responsible gamblers will emerge.

When I play I also look to win, there is nothing wrong with that, the thing is that you should not lose your way, if you lose in the casino you have to accept that that is the only safest thing that can happen, in the casinos We must see that some movies are worthy of pure luck, if we do not try luck we lose, unless we are in a sports bet that already influences the knowledge of the player, but in casinos playing with roulettes, with crash that is pure luck, There is no other option, for me that will always be what we should do, be very lucky to achieve things.

Those who lose a lot of money are because they will not control themselves and Emotions are something that can lead us to do things wrong, lose money and the least we should try is to lose money, but quite the opposite to win it, that's why controlling emotions It's super Important.

Generally we don't like to be seen as a loser, we just want to get back what we lose and in gambling it's not really possible in that way so one more lose then we lose entirely. They are ignoring the basics of betting which shows the are ready to do anything just to achieve the results which can be due to greediness or addiction according to the situations.

This situation is absurd, but one thing is clear to me: we cannot put the things that we have now and for which we have earned and saved. If you start pawning such things, they will give you a very small part of the actual value. Because whoever offers something like this clearly sees that the player can easily give away such things and take advantage of the player’s plight. Of course, any self-respecting person will not do this, but under the influence of greed or addiction this can happen, I have heard about this more than once. And there are no decent gestures here anymore, there is even a joke that in this way you can lose your last pants.

Winning becomes addictive and losing becomes more addictive, that's how gambling is. And this is the reason why one prefers to keep doubling the bet amount and continue the game rather than withdrawing his winnings. and this is also what makes someone continue to gamble without stopping, even though they have repeatedly lost. Likewise for me personally, for the first time I was in gambling, and did not have good control over the gambling activities carried out, at that time I still often lost the winnings that had been obtained, and gambled until there was no more money left. And fortunately at that time there was someone who reminded me of this bad behavior, which someone who reminded me was someone from whom I originally wanted to borrow money to gamble. I am very grateful that there is still someone who cares enough about me.

When I red your first sentence even without me going further to read what came into my mind is visual games, I have mostly seen people across our yard since we lived in two story building I do oversee them when some issues began to rise against the person whose funds was emptied. Naturally when people plays visuals they often ran away out of cash and is always an alternative to see if they can double their last cash before leaving the betting site, but guess what it always went the other way round. They keeps falling because visual game is like a game being controlled by robots and doesn't give accurate winning as you might have think, at this point someone can sacrifice his or her last card to play visual for him to double their money. The case always happened and when it's happening I do come out to watch over them.

It's true that we don't want to be seen as losers but behind that we want to be able to take back the lost bets for me, this is humane, it is lost because of our own actions but we don't realize it, in gambling after losing it will be addicted to chasing losses.

The most important thing in losing in gambling is not to cause financial damage throughout, let them look like they want to achieve their results even though it is called greed that they experience.

I think both the situations put a gambler to do. Both are categorized, first a person gets greedy he wants more and more money, sometimes he loses, and sometimes he wins he starts chasing the losing funds and wants to recover the losing funds, he moves to addiction when he can't live a movement to stay away from gambling. The same case with him he got an addiction in his mind he thought that maybe he would win this bet and without any investment, he could earn but the results were Changed and he went into debt and left his phone as a guarantee This is what we aim to protect the new gamblers from not being involved in any betting platform always prepare yourself and make sure your control in your mind.

I think the said individual is deeply addicted into gambling because it's only an addicted gambler that could fall into such situation, I think he was trying to recover his lose and kept on losing but instead of giving up he kept trying until he got to his last cash and opted to drop his smart phone, now that's what gambling addiction is capable of.

 It would make you lose valuable items, just like that said individual decided to drop his smartphone as  collateral for his debt. On the other hand, I think he's also a greedy person else he won't even continue betting to the point of losing all his money, however it's a good thing they seeked help from the authorities to help settle the matter amicably.

I think these are all signs of addiction. In fact, this often happens among people who gamble excessively. A person has long ceased to enjoy either games or betting, or probably such a life. He no longer controls his emotions, but his emotions control him. In fact, the person has big problems, because the fact that he gives away his phone for the last money is a very bad sign. Next time something worse might happen. It's like drug addicts who can commit various crimes for the sake of money. God freed me in a similar situation, I wish that this person’s problems would be solved

I think this case is a very common thing in the world of gambling, especially in physical casinos or traditional gambling. I once had a gambler bet his motorbike after he lost the previous round of cockfighting gambling, this was done because the gambler really wanted to recover his losses but basically increased the amount of losses he didn't realize. They are addicts, of course, so they will do anything to get their money back without wise consideration of the risks.

There is nothing strange and this is normal in my opinion. Some gamblers do it because they are optimistic about winning, while others do it because they fail to control their emotions when they lose.

At this point people should learn to respect the act called gambling, I see why most people paint gambling as bad cause they fail to control themselves. I will judge such act as an addiction, gambling addiction is just too tough to handle that's why most people can't resist the force attach, a gambler ought to plan a budget and should not exceed the plan. I have never heard of such situation and I will not doubt cause the rate we see gambling addiction increasing daily is surprising, I hate hearing issues like this when a gambler sacrifice he/her property or sell properties just to satisfy an addiction that has to do with bet (unpredictable). Gamble addict need to exhibit self control so it can enable them save or investment for the future

I agree with you on this, the gambler in question was playing virtual games which finished in less than two minutes and gives you either a win or a lot ASAP. In my area, we call it the sharp killer because it can render you penniless easily as compared to other casino games, it leaves you with lite or no time to even predict outcomes critically as a new session starts at almost two minutes interval from the last one.

I've experienced a good win in virtual, only to lose almost everything that same day in the evening, same has happened to my brother, after a very good win from the previous day, I advised him not to go back there the next day, he paid deaf ears to the extent that I was contacted at my workplace to clear his debt, lest he would be arrested. I had to pledge to clearing the debt to prevent further escalation.

Its easy to place bets above your capacity in virtual as most addicted gamblers place the bets with the intention of settling the cashiers with later wins. This doesn't always go as planned and in my humble opinion, that's the case with the guy OP is referring to.

These people just don't respect the risk they are participating with. It's almost like half of what you risk is already gone once you put your properties in the line because you simply getting into the unknown or the gray whether you win or you lose. When you lose, you curse yourself and when you win you will fee undeserving of it because the risk is too big. It's a loss for them regardless of the result so why get into it the first place.

Those who have gambled to this stage of course are very addicted to the gambling they do and they don't realize this while there are still assets that they can still sell and after everything is gone then most of these people have fallen into poverty and there are some from those who even went crazy because they had used up all the wealth they used for gambling.

Those who do not understand well the risks they are taking will of course really regret it when they fail at the risks they take and risk the assets we own. Of course this is very stupid in gambling because what they are betting on is very unlikely to be successful. they win and are lucky if they can win, but when they lose, of course this will make them frustrated.

It's true, a gambler will not stop gambling before getting what they want, but if someone does something like that it is clear they will incur big losses because every time we gamble if we play the game with very high curiosity we will lose everything. Usually things like this are based on curiosity, so that someone who only intended to seek pleasure can lead to addiction. Therefore, if someone gets too into gambling then everything will definitely lead to addiction, especially if we have lost, of course usually a gambler will continue to play even though he has experienced defeat, because what they are doing is just wanting to get back the money they have bet. . Likewise, if someone wins in gambling, they will always do the same thing, but victory is not always on their side because a win is just LUCK.

So, therefore, if we gamble, we should not get too into gambling so that we don't suffer losses and avoid the situation of addiction, because basically gambling games only make us miserable.

I think this no longer falls into the category of gambling addiction. In fact, it's more like he's gone crazy about gambling, where he no longer thinks about himself.

his mind was no longer able to develop and thought about the worst consequences of what he would receive if he lost. Not only will he lose the possessions and property he sells, he may even lose his family and self-confidence when this defeat occurs.

Many gamblers who are in this phase, just want themselves to die rather than endure everything they have done.

Yea, you are right and I agree with you. A person who gambled and earned money from it at that time went smoothly and did not get any addiction but when he lost some funds he started chasing it day and night regardless of the time I did not understand this kind of person When they accepted a lot of profits then why there were obstacles accept the loss when it happens. Winning and losing is part of a game and I think this is move the meant of enjoyment but a lot of people ruined this movement. A new gambler should keep in mind that always accept your loss and never chase your loss for recovery, with time you can earn more than the lost fund. You can just focus on your mental health and your income both need to be controlled.

In fact, I think addiction will start when someone manages to get a win in one of the sessions they do, which is the reason is money is something that everyone always needs and wants and when they manage to get a lot of money just by gambling (without having to sweat a lot) then there will be a sense of addiction and they want to continue to get a win so that the mindset and expectations lead them to excessive gambling actions.

Usually the addiction starts from the first win where they feel very happy and excited about the win which in turn leads to excessive action, but on the other hand as Ana said that defeat is part of the game which means that the results at the end of the session will not always be about winning but defeat is a definite result that in the end when the results do not match expectations then usually they do not have the ability to accept the fact of defeat which makes them emotional and take actions that will only harm themselves more, namely chasing victory to restore something that has been lost, and simply put is that when someone has entered the addiction phase then they will always be addicted when they succeed in winning which makes them apply greed and they will be more curious when experiencing defeat.

Actually the main mistake with gamblers is that they don't accept their loss and want to chase it but they forget that gambling is not a field where they will use their knowledge to get their dreams victory.

There is nothing required for gambling to get the reward but it is reality that if your luck shines then you win and if your luck does not co-operate with you then you lose in gambling. A person who gambles for the first time with thoughts that he will not be addicted towards gambling also becomes addicted to trying again and again to recover the sum that he has lost previously.

That's right, the main ailment of most gamblers is the inability to accept the fact of losing which eventually leads to many impulsive decisions such as continuing gambling with the intention and purpose of recovering something that has been lost. And I can already conclude that they are irresponsible gamblers or maybe I will also call them losers who only want to win but are not ready to lose. However, gambling is always about winning and losing, only those two and you will always end the session with one of the two possibilities between winning or losing but most gamblers experience losing more often than winning which is the reason because the percentage of winning is much smaller than losing.

The truth is not to be too ambitious in terms of dealing with winning and there is no need to put too high expectations on winning because it will only make you experience significant disappointment when it turns out that the session ends in defeat, after all, if for example you are lucky enough then you will also be able to get a win like other gamblers get, so it is better to focus on being able to accept the fact of losing rather than putting excessive expectations on winning which in the end will only make you even more disappointed.

Bare in mind that no matter what you do or the methods or whatever ways that you would be making but if luck isnt on your side then you would really be 100% lose that particular bet and it would really be always recommended that you shouldnt really be tending to chase up your loses no matter what because on the time that you would really be making yourself that kind of forcing about being lucky
or being a winner then this would really be causing up that kind of desperation on which it would really be resulting into those impulsive actions on which we know that it could really be that too dangerous
specially when dealing up with gambling. You cant really just that having an assurance that you would be winning the next bet and also we do know that gambling is something that should be for fun and not something that will be able to multiply your money in sure way or manner.

yeah right, no matter what we do if luck is not ours, we also have no certainty as to what the results of our bet will be. We know that gambling is based on luck and that the strategies that others use to win are just coincidences, because if there are strategies that must be followed, surely there are more winners than losers, right? all we have to do is focus, enjoy and discover other moves how can we lessen the chances of losses, as simple as that.

Actually that's the story of degenerate gambling.
It's nothing new that people gamble money they don't have or can't afford to lose, maybe that's even the oldest story in the book connected to gambling.
That's why it's such a good business for the casinos and betting shops.

In OP's story it's just a phone and 15$, in real life it's houses, cars, futures  :'( .

Yes, luck is the most important factor in success and with any luck we can win, and vice versa, when luck is not on our side then any strategy or method of spending as much money as possible will not be able to win.
But need to know that luck comes unexpectedly and luck is not something that can be easily had at any time, so we still have to be careful when gambling because waiting for luck to come can cost us more money.
It just that we can find different things in gambling for sports betting, this will not really be 100% just based on luck because analytical skills and knowledge also play an important role.
So basically we have to be able to realize and remember what to do for each betting option chosen between casino games and sports betting.

Several cases occur where gamblers experience big losses and become someone who is truly addicted because to chasing what they cannot get.
In gambling, everything will depend on the attitude of each individual gambler towards what is at stake and how they can be responsible for their gambling decisions.

I have never gone this far in my whole life. When I don't have any money left I go home. I may be sad but also at peace because finally I am done gambling for the day. This is probably gambling addiction because he keeps on playing even though he have no money left in his pockets or his wallet.
There's no way a man who just gambles occasionally would do such a thing because he can control himself. But those who are uncontrollable might do it since their body is looking for a way to gamble even though they are broke. We have seen news with other gambling addicts who are stealing or robbing just because they want to gamble more.

That's what most gamblers find difficult to do, they can't help but have expectations from gambling which is why it hurts them more when they lose the money they have deposited for their gambling activities. If someone makes up their mind that there are higher chances of them losing the money than winning something with it, they wouldn't feel the losses so bad, and if they accept their losses, they can move on more easily without having a thought about recovering their losses.

High expectations is the reason why gamblers chase their losses because they can't let their money go easily, and when they try to recover the money, they lose more money in the process, and when that happens, they become restless because how can you stay normal without overthinking when you have lost so much money in gambling in a single day?

It's better we go home when we don't have money left and not thinks to takes a loan just for continue playing gambling. That will makes us in a risks that we can't imagine because continue playing using loan money will cause us to lose controls. That will be the time for us to stops gambling as we don't have any money left so we must understand that's the best decision for us to stops playing gambling. We have another day to playing gambling, especially if we have money again so we don't have to force ourselves to continue playing gambling even if someone gives us money. We must avoids becomes addicted to gambling no matter if that's difficult because that's the best things for us as we don't wants to see our lives ruins because of gambling.

The category of gamblers that kind of possibly fall victim of these are these set of gamblers with no gambling budget or plans on the amount of money they will spend, they want to spend anything to win jackpot, might not be addicted but greed got them trapped, because when you are gambling without a money budget, you tend to do anything, going way above what you can afford, having a budget kind of put you on check base on how much you should spend on a particular day, To me ones I lost that amount of money which is in my spending plan, then I will call it a day.

Whenever we are on a casino day, playing games we must be aware of what we are living, what we are doing, about the money we are spending, if we run out of money, we have to leave, we cannot stay there in nothing, in fact if we are about to run out of money we must leave aside to leave, for a taxi or something like that, the best thing to avoid this type of thing is to set aside money just to play, even if we don't have a lot of money left in our pocket, we have to do things well because otherwise we will be left without money, and it is not pleasant to be left without money, I say this from my own Experience, a long time ago because I was playing a lot in a casino I ran out of money and the truth is that it was very hard for me to cope with my life for 15 more days , which is when They paid me at work, this made things very bad, sometimes you have to think about the consequences of these things.

That's why we must have awareness when we playing gambling because we will not easy to gets out from the tempts of gambling. With awareness that we practice, we will not lets us waste our money to playing gambling and trying to wins the games because we knows that will only cause us lose much money. It's better we use money that we can afford so we don't have to use much money that can leads us lose and the worst is we can becomes addicted to gambling without we realizes. We can't playing gambling without money but spending much money to playing gambling is not worth. We must limit our money and time when playing gambling so we can relax in our spare time and will not trying to chase the win or recovers the lose. If we lose that money in gambling, we will gets in trouble because we can't fills our needs like before. If we still thinks to use the other money instead to stops playing gambling, that will be the time for us to ruin ourselves.

I think it's the same dude; the addiction and greediness are what made him do it. That kind of scenario actually seems like the mobile phone has lost its value, or it depends on whether it is branded.

But even so, of course, this incident is quite a scandal that even led to the calling of the police because of the addiction and greed that existed, and it's embarrassing, to be honest.

It's a sad reality and those are untold story. It is true there still are people who are putting their houses in line just to make or take their money or losses back, and however ending up losing it all to casino. Because when you put in line the money you aren't willing to lose, you are doomed with endless anxiety of losing it all because it will.

That is why if you cannot regulate yourself early on, please do have more mindfulness on next series of your bets.

 
          -   That's a bit sad; that's the effect of having an addiction, really. For the type of people who can only gamble, they will do whatever they can as collateral just to be able to gamble, even if the value seems to be losing money.

So for gamblers who are not at the stage of addiction, don't wait for them to develop an addiction or don't give them a chance to enter our person as a gambler; they should really be satisfied and disciplined as a gambler in gambling.

Such matters are not strange in offline betting shops but the police can be invited if agreements are not reach especially where the gambler is not accepting the terms of forfeiture that was made by the agent or the worker there. If for instance depending on how much debt was involved and the gambler's phone is weighed as not being able to take care of the bill of the debt incase he didn't return back to redeem it then the agent probably require that he adds his house key or shoe etc then there could be disagreement and argument, so in such case there may be invitation of the police if the neighborhood can not settle it.

there are many gamblers who are like that where they chase their winnings hoping that they will be able to get a lot of money from it, even though what happens is that they lose more and more of their money because of consecutive losses. gamblers should be able to accept their defeat and call it a day when they find a deadlock that they cannot win. gamblers should be wise and understand when to stop so that their gambling can be said to be responsible gambling.

What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness? I mean since I was playing the game and know what situation that made me addicted and greedy was only after I won  ;D I mean this might happen to every gambler on this forum or outside this forum aswell hahaha.

Has this ever happened to you as a gambler? Yes and it happened to me like almost everytime when take example if you playing slot and only for 5 spin you get free 100 spin although this is very rare hahahha the greed and addiction would come to you and start to crawl over you body and when you can control it gonna be dangerous

With the right approach, gambling can be a fun, recreational activity that doesn't lead to such predicaments.

But that situation sounds like it was more about poor planning and perhaps desperation than just greediness or addiction. It’s crucial for anyone gambling to manage their finances responsibly and ensure they have enough funds for their activities without risking essential assets like a smartphone. It’s a good reminder for all of us about the importance of gambling responsibly and planning ahead.

Well, there are always those who try to put aside those thoughts of greed, because things should not focus too much on that, slot machines are very well accepted when we win, but we should not lose control with so much money, that is, if I have 20usd ready to put in the slots, all I have to do is wait for that money to run out to see if we win or lose, and that's it, if we don't put in more money I think things will turn out well, but if we are willing to put in more money than we Normally, we have to be careful, because we can't spend everything on games, and many players like to win big, but we can also lose a lot, that's why we have to have a balance. To avoid losing money, it is always good to only put in the money that we are willing to lose.

A gambler can be such a situation when they losses their mind while gambling. For example if you stayed too long at the casino, you might spend all your money because you will feel biased and want to make sure you win something huge and on the process of continuous pushing for a win, you might not know when you have spend all the money you came with thinking that you still have some money left with you. If a gamblee is also addicted to gambling, he can be a victim to such situation.

The game of gambling is mostly luck based regardless of your strategy and knowledge or even experience, so like we all know the luck dependence of gambling is much more than the dependency on your skill, knowledge or even experience because there are timesheet where with all these you may still not be lucky enough to get to win the game except you are just lucky and sometimes we see that luck just played out .

When you see some games you will know that the only possibilities around such game would only be luck and anything away from luck may actually not help in such game because you may actually be expecting to win such game and it may turn out the outcome is something else and probably against you and at that point you just have to realize that you just have to be lucky for some games to be won and in such game been too careful may be the reason you may get to loose such a game maybe if you are trying to be to win the games too aswell.

Gambling is mostly luck based than Skil based as some people may want to think that their skills and probably knowledge is helping them the most because they will think that because they are more experience and have been gambling in awhile they are better of gambling than they would be as novice trying to know their way very much around the casino. Until they probably get to loose such mi

This is a very common problem most gamblers usually face. Sometimes when some gamblers start making picks on bets or games they wish to play they usually have a target maximum amount in mind. However sometimes they may find other wagers, or bet that are quite attractive and get convinced to try them out. Of course it's not a wrong thing to do . however as a gambler who is responsible you should to some level have a certain amount of discipline this would assist in preventing you from going way over the maximum amount you are supposed to stake. This because if you eventually can't resist fancy wagers you would probably end up exhausting all you cash on them.

There are many factors that cause it, the point is that we don't know for sure why the gambler acted as you described. In many cases this situation is caused by feelings of anger over the losses that have arisen and unstable emotions, which force the gambler to follow his uncontrollable emotions of anger. Not a few, many gamblers experience the same thing as you said. There are many reasons why, the most common is addiction. psychologically of gambling, a person has been contaminated by the gambling he did and the situation that caused it. which in the end, ended as you said. So the reasons are very varied, it could be that the person you are talking about is very addicted to gambling. Or, it was his greed that got him involved in a gambling problem that ended as you said.

IMO, but the point is not necessarily that the gambler is an addict who behaves in the same way as you say, nor because of his greed. All of this is complicated if we have to research it, the problem is we don't know him. However, in general what you say in this post can be said like that. that it is possible that the gambler is an addict, or a greedy gambler.

But that will never solve the problem because when the police are called, the solution will be much more complicated and perhaps neither party will benefit.
For problems like this, the best solution is to mediate between both parties to determine what method or solution can be done more quickly and easily.
Moreover, what is done is already form of solution because he may provide guarantee to be able to go take the money and pay what was previously bet, but problems like this are also often considered complicated because they relate to money.
If it about the impact, it won't affect anything related to addiction or greed, it just that it might create different way of thinking about the attitude one takes when gambling.

It always been like that bro only gamble with money you can afford to lose and always create a budger or you gonna cry later.

Im still curious with 20 usd you mention before so you put 20 usd in slot machine and play it until run dry, is this your strategy. If I have 100 USD deposit usually I divide to other game like 3-4 games including slot aswell but not put all in in single game

so what happen if you win the game with that 20 usd are u gonna stil play with the same game

Gambling in this situation when you know that you don’t have enough money is a very big problem and you will continue to put yourself on the stress so I wouldn’t advise anybody to do such thing because it’s not good. Yes a lot of people do the same thing I have also experienced it from somewhere, someone that did the same thing gambling with that no money so it’s not a good thing. Gambling is a very big risk only gamble when you are fully ready to pay for anything

Once it's referred as gambling, we need money to play bets and that is all that is involved in gambling, we can be watching games for free, playing free games or sports, but immediately staking is being involved, then it turns gambling and when we don't have money, we shouldn't go around the surroundings to gamble to avoid been disappointed, we should always know that there will be a second opportunity to have time to spend on gambling when we have money by then.

It happens just like every other thing that makes people feel good. For instance, people take alcohol untill they have nothing left on them to clear the bills. Gambling wouldn't be an exception in this case. Because most players who behave this way barely focus on gambling only, but do it for acquiring profits. A gambler who stills plays despite losing so much in the process and stakes his gadgets and properties just to play games is not seriously concerned about himself anymore. Money is needed to gamble, yes, but a lot of it shouldn't go just for gambling. A player should have something left, at least to gamble another day. People not just gamblers alone get angry for losing out all their money. That's why some players get into arguments in the gambling house. It's mainly caused by anger due to the numerous losses. Similar feeling of getting too many disappointments in a day.

The important thing is how to overcome such a situation so that the gambler may not spend more, he neither becomes greedy nor he spends a lot of time and money on gambling that can lead him to become a gambling addict. The only way to stop this is to pre-plan before gambling. We need to know how much money we are going to spend on gambling and what is the point where we stop the gamble both in the conditions when we are winning and also when we are losing. Since gambling results are not in our control, we should make ourselves ready for both scenarios.

As far as the OP question is concerned, yes everyone faces this in their gambling career. No one is born to be emotion controlled from the beginning. It's just that some people learn from mistakes while other gamblers keep on repeating the same mistakes over and over again leading them to gambling addiction.

This isn't strange to me, not anymore ...If I can recall vividly, it has been the regular thing for a gambler - especially the addicted ones to wager everything they have, until nothing is left of them...
Since it happened mostimes and I was a victim (during the time I worked as a cashier), I had to either confiscate their valuables for a period of 3 days - and if they weren't able to clear their debts and claim their property, it'll automatically be forfeited and auctioned, just to balance the company's business account.
Mind you, the rules weren't created by me - we had a solid documentation and, some were made as stickers on the wall.

Addiction and greed are like two sides of a coin in the world of gambling, only a small number of people are able to save the profits they get from gambling. In essence, it is quite difficult to get out of gambling activities if someone is addicted, because their mindset has been formed for a long time. No matter what principles and rules are applied, we cannot always control them well, that is what happens and we see a lot. But as you said, to be honest, a gambler must be prepared for all risks if he wants to continue gambling.

The pleasure one gets when gambling makes a person do it again the next day and the next, and repeated habits will become a cycle that ultimately leads to addiction. There is a lot of fun to be had in other activities, but fun that involves risk such as gambling offers the most interesting side. That is why so many people continue to gamble to this day, regardless of the principles they adhere to and the risks that arise thereafter, they only think about finding fun in gambling.

Continuous gambling will only increase the addiction from a trial level to a serious level. It is difficult to avoid addiction regardless of the purpose of gambling, this is the same as non-gambling game addiction which is also difficult to stop. Gambling has been considered a field of money for some gamblers, of course because they gamble to make money rather than to have fun.

Almost all casinos offer third-party services to each of their customers to overcome addiction. That is the best thing any casino can provide despite the fact that gambling addiction can increase their income in the industry. Becoming a responsible gambler is important advice for every gambler, but it is difficult to achieve this when the mindset about gambling is money.

Their is desperation because when a gambler is at high loses he becomes very desperate and all his thinking faculty get blocked off because all what his mind will be telling him is to actually find a way to recover that funds even when he knows that he doesn't have nothing left to play somethings he can even sell his property at the spot or loan them because he is desperate and also too greedy to let go but on the greed aspect it's not too clear because only your emotions here and there can flip things for ya.

I've heard about this that there are casinos that do goodwill like that to gamblers so that they don't get addicted to gambling, they provide some of the features and third parties that you mean, but I also say that casinos by doing that will not make them go bankrupt because basically a those who are addicted to gambling find it difficult to cure themselves so they will continue to return to gambling and I'm sure every casino knows about that, so they don't need to worry about going bankrupt by helping and providing features to stop their gamblers' gambling addiction.

I never thought that this method would be successful in stopping someone's gambling addiction because basically even a professional finds it difficult to cure someone's gambling addiction because it has to come from the desire to recover, that doesn't mean I'm saying what the casino has done is something that is useless. Maybe it can only help a small part or just relieve the emotional feelings of gambling addiction, but again, gamblers will return to gambling when they don't really intend to recover from gambling addiction because bad habits are difficult to stop. Gambling addicts must change their mindset.

That is our emotions who play tricks with us,the fact that deep in our DNA is based on greed,we always want more that is why many philosophers and prophets have said in unison that "happy is not the one who has a lot of wealth but the person who is content with what he has at his disposal" and if we abide by such learning we would be doing very well in managing our emotions,we could gamble and do it for fun because the greediness factor is out of the way when we are happy with what we have.When we are not happy with what we have then bad things happen,we try to recover our lost money and this leads to even more lost money,all because of us being greedy.

This is actually both a sign of addiction and being greedy for money. With that, you end up losing your right thinking that it’s impossible to gamble without money on your own, but because you want to satisfy your gambling urge and try your luck if you can make a big win, then you resort into making a stupid decision that will only put your life at a more miserable situation, and you might get banned from the casino if you make this as a habit.

This is obviously not right. Learn to gamble when you have extra money, an amount that you are comfortable of losing, and not that you try to gamble without thinking the possible outcome of your wrong decision making.

Most addicted gamblers would go and sell some property they own to use the funds for their gambling activities instead of getting indebted to the casino and having their valuables confiscated, but they don't stop right there, in case they are extremely addicted and have their minds stuck at the recovery of their lost funds, they might go far ahead and take extra loans and debts only to try and achieve what they have been trying to achieve so hard.

You are right that it's not surprising to see an addicted gambler spend everything they have in gambling because they don't know when they need to stop and call it a day and they keep gambling even when they can see they are constantly losing and any sane person would stop in such a situation.

Lending business? Or pawning?
If yes, then I think it will be normal for you. There are those who would really go to that extent just to satisfy their gambling addiction and because they have no cash left in their pockets, their eyes will target their own properties like cars, gold, and other valuable stuff that they can pawn or lend for a few cash.
I think that's gambling addiction if you would go that far and the thought that there's no tomorrow for them is normal. I've been in a situation where I gambled my whole salary in just a day but i never went to the extent of selling my valuable things or just keep on rolling without any money because that could get you in big trouble, worst, you will end up in the hospital because of an angry lender.

it actually happened, not to me but to a close friend of mine. he borrowed money from a loan shark with collateral. Initially, the item used as collateral has a value greater than the money borrowed. but he kept asking for more with the promise that it would be paid soon.
My friend told me that he had lost the items he had pledged as collateral and still had debts to loan sharks. This is what led to him being chased by debt collectors and ultimately having to receive several beatings.

I didn't ask him about the money he used. but I know clearly that he is a gambling addict. even some of my money is still with him. I can only hope he recovers soon and focuses on his work. Don't think about chasing victory in the game because that will have a bad impact.

This is enhanced by the fact that the casino is like a machine which can both make money and lose money and is right in front of the gambler. So they get a false confidence that they can make the money back right from the casino if they play with more money. This increases the chances of their losses and stacks up more losses before they can recover and ultimately leads to a vicious cycle.

That is when all the borrowing money and all that comes in place. Which is another mistake waiting to be made.

The method to get out of this cycle is stop playing and find other ways to make the money back and pay off debts.