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Title: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 07:26:19 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Odohu on March 08, 2024, 07:38:37 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

Even the bookies usually give smaller odds to the home side irrespective of the strength of the away team. So to avoid losses, I usually avoid leagues where I notice this to be a norm. I want to play matches that I know there is fairness in the officiating as that will make me relaxed that the match will follow prediction.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 08, 2024, 07:44:52 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
To avoid matches that can be manipulated, I go for just big leagues like the EPL, Serial A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Lique 2 and some others. I only think that the lower leagues that are not common are the ones that can be manipulated because I can still go for second and third leagues like Championship, Serial B, Lique 2 and others which are common and well known. I also still go for leagues in countries like Brazil and Argentina. But there are some that are very low leagues that I can not go for.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: retreat on March 08, 2024, 08:02:46 AM
And because of that I always bet on popular major leagues, such as La Liga or the Premier League, because I think that the chance of manipulation in such a big league is very slim and usually the competition will be run and monitored by many parties, so the possibility of cheating is very small. Because usually cheating or manipulation will occur in smaller leagues, for example the league in my country, where cheating and manipulation often occur with referees or other stakeholders, and this is very detrimental for bettors who want to bet on their favorite team.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: btc_angela on March 08, 2024, 08:16:32 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

I wouldn't call it racism though, but perhaps it is biased on the other team? But I don't know if this is just for football as I don't bet on them. But let's say in boxing, judges can influence the outcome or if the match is place on the hometown of one of the players and so obviously there is something we called "home cook" decision. And in this case the home town boxer is giving the preference to win the fight despite that it's obvious that the other fighter did enough to win and it's very clear except the judges or even the referee favoring the home town boxer or maybe make a 10 count longer than usual.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: EluguHcman on March 08, 2024, 08:34:24 AM
Let's still assume that the 80% assurance is on assumption because the least assurance in stressing to winning while gambling is at 0% as long gambling is concerned a game of luck.
However, that racist shits of cutting off ones games happens only on live bets where the VAR, Referees and some top moderators in the game have their personal interests while the game is currently ongoing.

So, if I have come to be a better observer towards the above being racists, of course I would bet on the other side to win, afterall they are not against my prediction but their interest in the game between the teams and all I am concerned about is to count winning.
So, I would still bet on the game but at the safer side to secure my winning.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: mindrust on March 08, 2024, 08:40:33 AM
Money is money. As long as it is legal to make that money, somebody will make it. If some people think like you and ignore those “racist bets”, somebody else will collect that money. Think like a businessman don’t let your emotions get in your way. It will only make you poor in the long run. People who got rich think like computers. They are emotionless. They often don’t care about ethics too. Why should you? If you want to fight racism, you can take advantage of those bets, collect the profits and make a donation to an anti-racism organization.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Roseline492 on March 08, 2024, 08:45:25 AM
The truth is that on sports betting no game is actually certain that it will likely play on your exact prediction because we have seen so many big teams that plays with smaller clubs and end up losing the match at the end when they have the best player that was supposed to deliver them but they had to lose the match because of underestimating the smaller club, so for me we shouldn't feel that since you had 80% confident that your game will play and at the end it went the opposite doesn't mean that is because of racism because one thing I love about sports is that everything is being checked and replay back if the need arises so there is no way racism can affect any match.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 08, 2024, 08:50:15 AM
This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hatchy on March 08, 2024, 08:53:32 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
This behavior has been around for long amongst some sports officials. A lot of time, we witness these racism even in front of camera where the referee would be forced to call fr a card. This isn't supposed to be so. Sports are meant to be for fun and friendly. We shouldn't bring in our differences when it comes to sports.
For some gamblers, they don't care about such things so long they make their bets and such racism acts don't cuts their games. You shouldn't mind such thing that much when you gamble so long you understand the games.you just have to ignore such acts  and place your bets. I've noticed this a lot of time and I really dont mind that much, so long my games plays in.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: _act_ on March 08, 2024, 08:58:42 AM
This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I only go for big boxing game like the Anthony Joshua versus Francis Ngannou that we are expecting to come. These kind of boxing matches can not be manipulated. I can say I hardly bet more than 3 boxing games in a year. I prefer football and I do not think there is racism in big leagues. Underdog leagues is where that can happen and I can not go for it. To what I have known, I do not see racism in the matches that I go for.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 08, 2024, 09:02:27 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Not all referees are racist, and not all games will the referee favour people of his same race more than the other, so trying to avoid betting on a team you are 80% sure they are likely to win a game is not a quality of a good gambler, because while gambling involves taking risk, this is not a level of risk any good gambler should ever be scared off, hence gamble on the teams you are sured to perform best, while leave the rest to God who is the author and finisher of all things.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: pinggoki on March 08, 2024, 09:25:42 AM
There's probably a committee or a board that will oversee this issue and I think that most people that would commit such heinous acts of racism is in my opinion handled pretty quickly and with heavy punishment and most of these racist incidents in sports are going to be detrimental to the revenue of the league, take NBA as a hypothetical example, when there's a blatant racism that's happening in the court and at the same time it's not being punished by any means, a lot of people would probably be turned off with what's happening and the act of not dealing with it would lead to less people watching the games and with less people buying tickets to watch the games, the revenue of the league would be affected and they either tolerate racism and have less money until they become a small league if not bankrupt or deal with it and let the people know that racism isn't tolerated in any way, shape or form in the league and the offenders would be faced with heavy fines and suspensions if not full termination.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 08, 2024, 09:25:58 AM
Like Barcelona bribe the referees right? well I won't avoid the games, but actually I will put my bet on Barcelona even though they face stronger teams e.g. Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid, as long as the odds is worth to bet, I will bet.

So if you're a Madridista, don't force yourself to bet on your teams when you know Barcelona will bribe the referees.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: MAAManda on March 08, 2024, 09:34:16 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I've never found news about neutral sides (referees or VAR officials) on the field committing racism, racist behavior is usually made by players because of certain backgrounds, it could be because of a heated atmosphere or hatred. Apart from that, can you give examples of the cases you mentioned? It will make the topic stronger if it has legitimate references.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Pi-network314159 on March 08, 2024, 10:11:44 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Personally I don't believe there is racism in football because everything is visual and can not be manipulated the world has advanced in some level of technology where it is impossible to manipulate matches. There might be some mistakes made by referees in the pitch but doesn't implies that it was a racism. Whenever a referee made mistake in his judgement, the scenerio will be displayed. because he can not do all by itself Alone thats why we have men in the control room and also last man and commentators. Not all mistake are displayed on the pitch. may be just those that where not properly checked and was judge wrongly become a racist match to you. You should get it know that there is no %100 accuracy in everything we do on earth. There must be some kind of error which the error will favour or disappoint the other.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: YOSHIE on March 08, 2024, 10:22:55 AM
Do you avoid some games because of racism?
It is certain that avoiding games that are detected to have indications of Radicalism or Racism is one of the actions that should be taken. We know that if racism occurs in one of the gambling games, this can create a system, for example the VAR member who is the most powerful, this will have an impact on bettors by losing money and there can be VAR manipulation of the referee's decisions.

Racism can force those in power to make quite harsh behavioral changes and this can be detrimental to many parties, teams, gamblers and many others. This is clearly bad behavior in the world of gambling and needs to be avoided.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Frankolala on March 08, 2024, 10:31:09 AM
One can gamble on anything just to have fun. If you don't like betting on games that encourage racism, then stay away from it, so that you don't end up regretting your bet. U believe that big leagues hardly do allow racism to come into their games, and this is why those leagues are still the best to bet on for credibility. There are some people that enjoys taking advantage of this manipulations to win their bet, and they will be looking for underdog matches to bet on, and at the same time, they are trying to get the information on the team that the manipulation will favor, so that they can bet on the team with huge funds to hit it big.

This is why it is called gamble; some prefer to win in a tricky way, through match fixing, and glitch in casinos that have not been noticed. To avoid been scared of gambling in a match that is fixed, only gamble on big leagues, and only use the amount of money that you can afford to lose to gamble.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Wapfika on March 08, 2024, 10:32:39 AM
It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I’m not familiar on racism effects on sports since I never witness one when watching sports. I think you are pertaining to football since you mention VAR which I didn’t watch frequently. Can you share example scenario that describes this racism acts on sports so that non football player can easily catch up to your topic?

I will comment on the literal description of racism, Most of the team has a players import from different country which racism is very common. I think completely avoiding on sports that allows it is the right move to totally get rid the risk of experiencing it.

I’m placing bets mostly in basketball and volleyball which this kind of issue is non-existent or at least not a big deal will give an impact to the game.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Queentoshi on March 08, 2024, 10:37:17 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Where any form of manipulation is perceived, it should be a notification to avoid such a game to avoid ending at the unfavorable side of the manipulation. I however think that there are very few sports where an official will make a decision based on racism, and the other officials will let him go ahead with it without any form of interference or punishment later when the situation is reviewed.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: iv4n on March 08, 2024, 10:46:43 AM
I’m not familiar on racism effects on sports since I never witness one when watching sports. I think you are pertaining to football since you mention VAR which I didn’t watch frequently. Can you share example scenario that describes this racism acts on sports so that non football player can easily catch up to your topic?

I would like to see some examples as well because I can't see how racism can have some huge effects on the result. We have all seen fans chanting really ugly things, and it can probably hurt some players, but surely some players get mad and play even better afterward just to show everyone that they are stronger than the racists who are telling them ugly things. So that can be seen as "racism manipulation", but it's not even close to "game fixing" or anything like that I think.

Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

I'm sure it happens in the lowest leagues. When drunken peasants gather to watch a game without any fences or guards and their home team is losing or they simply don't like the referee and his decisions riot starts in seconds. Happened to many times in my country, in countryside leagues. But it's not racism, it's simply a low-level league and it's how things work there.



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Kelward on March 08, 2024, 11:01:00 AM
This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I only go for big boxing game like the Anthony Joshua versus Francis Ngannou that we are expecting to come. These kind of boxing matches can not be manipulated. I can say I hardly bet more than 3 boxing games in a year. I prefer football and I do not think there is racism in big leagues. Underdog leagues is where that can happen and I can not go for it. To what I have known, I do not see racism in the matches that I go for.

Racism and manipulations will be dominant in underdog leagues, like you said, because they've probably got nothing much to loose, no big company endorsements that'll pull out if the leagues don't perform to standard expectations. Big leagues and top boxing matches, like the upcoming Joshua versus Nganou, will hardly give biased officiating because they have so much to loose if they stoop too low in expected standards from them, they'll lose endorsements and fans. Although no matter the standard of the leagues, you can't totally rule out prejudice, there must be personal preferences, but if the officials and athletes are true professional, then personal feelings will not count.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Promocodeudo on March 08, 2024, 11:14:12 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Though this things happens, but if a referee is biased in a match doesn't mean that such referee will be biased in another match, but you feel that such will happen the best thing to do is to avoid the match entirely, for me the only way to avoid this thing is to be choosing matches that involves 2 big team's because in matches like that it is very rare to see such thing happening.

Manipulations sometime happens in matches that affect bettors winning but it is not often and ascertaining the particular match this incident will take place is almost impossible.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on March 08, 2024, 11:21:38 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
To avoid matches that can be manipulated, I go for just big leagues like the EPL, Serial A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Lique 2 and some others. I only think that the lower leagues that are not common are the ones that can be manipulated because I can still go for second and third leagues like Championship, Serial B, Lique 2 and others which are common and well known. I also still go for leagues in countries like Brazil and Argentina. But there are some that are very low leagues that I can not go for.
You're right about the fact that for big leagues manipulation is always reduced because a lot of eyes are concentrated on those leagues and their matches, however I think lower divisions leagues don't always get attention so manipulations can be done, I agree with you on this. I have not personally experienced manipulation due to racism in football matches, because I don't have any fact to on that, but I can agree with you in terms of Match fixing and manipulation of match results, it can always happen in the lower division. Moreover I think even in betting most of us go for the big leagues and their matches  to select games, I hardly go for lower division.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Z390 on March 08, 2024, 11:27:21 AM
Honestly speaking this is the only problem that is affecting sports, especially if the match is local or country based, one will have a better support than the other, there will always be those who won't want the outsider to win because it's like a shame to challenge a country and go vs one on one in the same country, the home country will be more supported.

The only way to avoid this is to place bet on biggest matches, and pray that your favourite is well treated, still sports betting are game of luck, there are cases where the most favoured club still lose to the other that's not been treated very well, sometimes, luck will play out and the home owner will still lose.

But I do have a question, we are complaining because we are not the one at the other side, what will you have to say if the football club you are supporting has the upper hand and the football club they are going up against are the ones facing the racsism, will you still complain? Because I believe that people only think about themselves.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: sokani on March 08, 2024, 11:51:31 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

In football, there have been incidents where opposition fans target the markman of a team with racist gestures which had negative impact in the general performance of the team as well as the outcome of the match. But to say that the VAR crew are also complicit in such disdainful act is unbelievable. A VAR crew comprises of 6 - 7 persons, headed by one person and all of them cannot be racist. Also, I believe their decisions are looked at by the FA even if they may not publicly say it.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hirose UK on March 08, 2024, 11:55:56 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
In football or even several other types of sport, we will often find things like this, but it cannot be easily proven that there was manipulation that caused the leading team to fail to win.
It just that I never think that failure occurs because of manipulation because many failures occur because of mistakes made by players, not because of cheating in the course of the match.
For example, when Manchester United suffered very embarrassing defeat because of mistakes made by their own player Maguire and of course we have often seen incidents like this before.
I will only assume that the game is run through manipulation if the referee makes mistake, it will be very easy for the referee to become part of the manipulation that occurs and there have been quite lot of incidents like this in almost all existing competitions.
Especially for small competitions, it will be very easy to manipulate to win one particular party.

Priority remains in competitions or big leagues which are clearly filled with big and popular team, after all betting on matches in big competitions gives its own satisfaction.
Apart from that, I also saw that the favorite team competed with much better game, the games in big competitions and small competitions really showed very significant differences.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: SamReomo on March 08, 2024, 12:11:16 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I avoid all such games which can be manipulated in one way or other and that's why I mostly bet on high level sports where chance of manipulation is very low. In sports betting I most bet of cricket matches and I don't think that cricket matches can be manipulated.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 08, 2024, 12:20:42 PM
Well most contributors have said to bet in popular leagues is the way to avoid being locked up in racism and I think that is possibly so because such top leagues have the public and press watching at them and that makes manipulation come down quite low.


Money is money. As long as it is legal to make that money, somebody will make it. If some people think like you and ignore those “racist bets”, somebody else will collect that money. Think like a businessman don’t let your emotions get in your way. It will only make you poor in the long run. People who got rich think like computers. They are emotionless. They often don’t care about ethics too. Why should you? If you want to fight racism, you can take advantage of those bets, collect the profits and make a donation to an anti-racism organization.

Lol but it depends on the side of divide he is or is coming from. If he feels the area of racist is that that doesn't favour him from the officials then he won't be betting because betting on what he knows is already against him won't be a good business idea. He is pointing out racism because it affects his bet and so he could decide to let it go and not to gamble on the area again.

Can an individual really fight racism? I don't think so. Racism has been there a long time and is not looking like it will become a history anytime soon.



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: alastantiger on March 08, 2024, 12:34:49 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I do not factor in racism when I am betting on a sports like football. While I don't deny that it exists and occurs, I feel that it's incidence is so low to the extent that it can greatly impact the outcome of the game. There are small exceptions here but it is likely to be 5% or less. Aside racism, there are other forms of discrimination that happens in sports and could potentially impact the outcome of the games. Most notable are discrimination based on religion and nationality. Thus, as part of your research and analysis before betting on a game consider leagues with very low incidence or where there is a swift punishment in place to deter its recurrence.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Iroh on March 08, 2024, 01:12:25 PM
I wouldn’t exactly say racism affects the outcome of games of most leagues. Perhaps it does affect the outcome of matches of smaller and somewhat unknown leagues. That’s why I place bets on known and familiar leagues like the EPL.
There’s too much at stake to openly be racist about your decisions and some people is kind of being coerced into behaving like a normal decent human would. You’ve just got to bet on leagues you’re familiar with. Unless of course, you decide to still place bets on those games you think the outcome could be affected by racism.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 08, 2024, 01:33:59 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I find this interesting- I have yet to experience a game where manipulation of the games revolving racism is involved. Can you please share your specific experience on why it involved racism in the first place? This is a rare instance where I have yet to encounter this type of manipulation though I have noticed that there are also other people sharing the same concern.

I wouldn’t exactly say racism affects the outcome of games of most leagues. Perhaps it does affect the outcome of matches of smaller and somewhat unknown leagues. That’s why I place bets on known and familiar leagues like the EPL.
There’s too much at stake to openly be racist about your decisions and some people is kind of being coerced into behaving like a normal decent human would. You’ve just got to bet on leagues you’re familiar with. Unless of course, you decide to still place bets on those games you think the outcome could be affected by racism.

If this were the case, I guess the best recommendation here would be to choose leagues that are prominent and famous instead of betting on small platforms. Even if some of the offers may seem attractive, manipulation may happen given that there are less securities and guarantees there.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: coin-investor on March 08, 2024, 01:37:20 PM
It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
This is gambling there will always be manipulation, bias, and racism that's going to happen, I will just ignore it as long as I have a chance to win, not every day that you have a chance to win gambling so you have to take it if there's an opportunity to win.

In international sports or events, fans and the sports community will always see manipulation and racism if the decisions are not in their favor This has always been the issue in many international sporting events.
If you're a real gambler you'll ignore it, if you're a patriotic bettor will choose not to bet.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: danherbias07 on March 08, 2024, 01:37:32 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I see referees side with one team but I have never seen racism yet or maybe they are just not admitting it. They are humans too and maybe they are a fan of one team and they could definitely change the pace of the game if ever. But when it is proven he might also lose his job and that's more scary in this time of bad economy.
I guess I cannot use the NBA as an example since most of them are Americans. But I have not seen international players like Jokic or Doncic tell the media that something like that is happening. So I guess racism is not there or there will be a heavy punishment if proven.

Last year FIBA happened, and I didn't see anything like racism that happened. It's clean. Well, that's according to the games I only watched but maybe there were some games that I missed with this kind of problem.

Manipulation? Yes, I would not bet on it. But I doubt they will warn us that it will be manipulated so we can still fall victim to it.
Racist referee? No, some sports don't only have 1 referee and I think it's there to balance it. I might still bet for a game like that.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: teamsherry on March 08, 2024, 01:37:50 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Yeah I've experienced stuff like this with man United a season or 2 ago and I noticed how the referee normally helped them to win matches through penalty and apart from that I also notice this in some kind of games where a team in a lower league would beat a team in a higher league just because of history and based on performance it not even supposed to happen.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: piebeyb on March 08, 2024, 01:49:30 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Actually, I'm not sure about small leagues, maybe what you say is true, that it could be rigged, after all there are many cases of match fixing in European small leagues, therefore I prefer to bet on big leagues such as EPL, Laliga, Bundesliga, The Italian league and other big leagues basically depend on where you bet. If you bet in a small league, you will likely find VAR members, or referees who are racist, and manipulate, so it's best to just avoid leagues like that to be safe so that you don't lose unnecessary money. required.

I once bet on a small league league and it was strange in my opinion where the club that was supposed to win actually lost to a bottom club, it was really annoying and I felt that there was cheating and match fixing in that match so since then I haven't bet any more on gambling. sports betting such as small league leagues and only betting on big league sports betting as we know today and I mentioned above, I am sure you will also experience this if you feel cheating that you are aware of in this thread. Avoiding risky things is really recommended rather than going bankrupt just because of fraudulent actions.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: aioc on March 08, 2024, 02:48:04 PM
You mentioned in your thread that there is an 80% chance of winning, so why would I not lose the chance to make money, it's not easy to make money in gambling so I can ignore racism and manipulation if I have a chance to win a game, so many sports have their share of racism and manipulations, it's up to the commissions and the organizations to resolve these issues they will lose their reputation if they will not resolve those issues.
As a bettor, if there is a chance to make money then you have to go for it.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: moneystery on March 08, 2024, 03:07:08 PM
I wouldn’t exactly say racism affects the outcome of games of most leagues. Perhaps it does affect the outcome of matches of smaller and somewhat unknown leagues. That’s why I place bets on known and familiar leagues like the EPL.
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agree with what you say that this problem only occurs in smaller leagues that are not as exposed to as many people. however, in a popular league like the epl, this is unlikely to happen because their association's regulations for the teams playing are very strict, so that when there is an intervention that occurs in a game it will immediately be exposed and that can affect the image of the league. and because of this, more people bet on teams that compete in the major leagues to avoid manipulation that might occur.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Kelvinid on March 08, 2024, 03:09:45 PM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
In the case that we know there is manipulation, I don't think we have to do this instead, it deserves to be rejected. Otherwise, we make ourselves a fool knowing that our chances are very slim unless we place the bet on the team that they are planning to win. But I stand myself not to bet, I'd rather choose the other game than bet on a manipulated game.

And there is only one thing it means, that particular betting platform can't be trusted nor do we think that the results are fair. It is a shame for them to make money by cheating.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: madnessteat on March 08, 2024, 03:14:38 PM
~snip~

It's hard enough to prove that an action or decision is caused by racist attitudes, and as long as it can't be proven, it's just an assumption.

It seems to me that if you think too much about being surrounded by racists, you start to unconsciously look for these manifestations where they do not exist.

At least if you have such assumptions try to avoid matches where you think the referees are racist.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 08, 2024, 03:18:38 PM
What about the Valencia vs Real Madrid match where during the attack there was a cross but the referee blew the whistle, wouldn't we think it was manipulation? This is still vague, but the news is that the referee is subject to a code of conduct prohibiting him from officiating the match, whether this is true or not but it is controversial.

And what happens if you bet on Real Madrid who are clearly going to win in the final minutes?
It's inconceivable because somehow this happens all the time, but we never distinguish the manipulation that the match is in progress but after that there will be a lot of news.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 08, 2024, 03:24:46 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

No any professional or world class standard game will want to employ or tolerate the use of racism in their judgement, they have the better understanding that games are not only viewed or played by a particular country, its a global view and everyone sees the way things got transpired through the way they make their judgement on each games and they wouldn't want to do otherwise, as for the cases of wrongly interpretation of event or judgement given aren't because of racism, in fact, racism should be the least form of corruption we should expect in sport betting's or any other games.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Zigabel on March 08, 2024, 03:39:12 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Putting my money out there with the hope of winning and making profit is enough reason for me not to get engaged on such game again especially if I know it will go against me, it's a clear indication that I shouldn't engage so I don't get to keep loosing my funds to partial officiating of the games and end up getting more losses which may affect my mental health, if i'v observed that such thing occurs too often on such games, I will skip gambling on such game to gamble on a much more better game which guarantees me every form of impartial judgement on the ga.e which will inturn help my predictions.

I think there's usually a regulations to stop all these biases especially when it has to do with racism and some of these acts has to be punishable so the perpetrators are discouraged from continuing with such attitude or behavior again.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on March 08, 2024, 03:43:05 PM
-snip-
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I think this context is so subjective, it can't be based on the general opinion and truth, and if care is not taken, the person would make a whole lot of avoidable mistakes. At times, we misjudge the situation, racism may never happen in the judgment of the referees and VAR, but at times, some people would always relate what is not there as though it was there. Well, if I am ever caught up in a situation where I believe racism happened in a football, I will overlook it, nothing more, since even if it happens, that's not a must that it would happen again next time.

This is what I think is best for everyone to do as well because it is better to use your strategy to judge rightly than allow fear of referees' judgements to make you miss your bless. I have my standard of analysing my football betting and I make sure that I choose the most promising team with the highest odds. If any match can be well-analysed by me and also has reasonable odds, then I go for it without thinking otherwise.

By the way, I am putting this straight to you, is there racism in football? While waiting for your response, for me, there is nowhere there is no racism, but it will never be so obvious to avoid issues. If not, you would see a lot of protests and football would become something else. That's even if it is obvious to the point of boycotting a bet simply for the fear of racism. That's extreme.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: reagansimms on March 08, 2024, 03:44:22 PM
Match fixing very often occurs in unknown leagues or in countries where match results can still be manipulated by mafias who are active in the practice of buying and selling matches to other parties who order match results as desired. I prefer to ignore matches in lower caste leagues because it is very easy to manipulate match results. Meanwhile, in top leagues such as the EPL, Bundesliga, Serie A and La Liga, match fixing is very rare because supervision is tighter due to its level of popularity covering the entire world. There is chaos in football due to match fixing which is deliberately carried out by parties who want to make a profit in the match. Supporters will express their emotions due to the result of the match which is considered unfair or a loss for one side and will lead to a negative side which makes the image of football even worse.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: RockBell on March 08, 2024, 03:44:56 PM
I wouldn’t exactly say racism affects the outcome of games of most leagues. Perhaps it does affect the outcome of matches of smaller and somewhat unknown leagues. That’s why I place bets on known and familiar leagues like the EPL.
There’s too much at stake to openly be racist about your decisions and some people is kind of being coerced into behaving like a normal decent human would. You’ve just got to bet on leagues you’re familiar with. Unless of course, you decide to still place bets on those games you think the outcome could be affected by racism.
I'm amazed that people still talk about racism and other things that have happened around the world, as well as anyone who holds a grudge or dislikes someone because of their skin color. With everyone fighting to survive right now. What's bothering you is racism. Seriously, I don't understand how race influences the outcome of gambling; everything is based on luck. Rasim and gambling do not have anything in common. So, if you want to gamble, simply bet. As far as how that game will benefit me, I am not concerned with anything else; all I want is to win. If someone has an issue with another person, they should not bring it to gaming; instead, they should keep it between themselves. If a person has an issue with leagues, they can try casinos.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Z_MBFM on March 08, 2024, 03:51:51 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I don't bet much on sports. But if we keep it then always keep it in favor of strong team. I don't disrespect any team for racism. Because sports are a lot of fun and the teams who win in sports have a lot of trouble to win the matches. I appreciate their efforts. And besides the fun of watching sports, we try to double the fun by placing some bets. In this case, I do not have any headache. I don't want to associate my fun time with racism. because I always want to keep myself away from pride


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Gallar on March 08, 2024, 04:11:11 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
From my experience so far, this is actually very common in almost all sports. But personally, I always respond normally. Because after all, sometimes we can't predict what will happen. So I personally prefer to take it as normal. Because in gambling we play with what is called luck. So basically I have an assumption like this (if I am lucky on the bet I placed this time, nothing can hinder my luck, neither the referee nor the Vars official). Therefore, I am not too worried about cheating or racism in sports betting. Because actually manipulating a sports match, like football, in my opinion is not an easy thing. So basically, in my personal opinion, people who manipulate are just trying their luck. However, the difference is, people who manipulate use more money than gamblers who place regular bets.

So in conclusion, I personally am not too worried about this. Because I personally also have analysis and predictions that I always use in every sporting match, especially football. Therefore, when I lose a bet I have, I choose not to think too much. But I just thought, maybe I'm just unlucky. Because if I think about it too deeply, I think it will actually make my mind even more dizzy. Therefore, it's better for me not to think about it. But for example, before the sporting match starts and for example already know that in the match there will be one party who will manipulate and for example this information is very relevant. Maybe for gamblers who believe this information, it is better not to place bets and just play it safe. But for me, information like that will have no effect. Because I trust my own analysis more than other people's information.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Zlantann on March 08, 2024, 04:18:39 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

The recent racist attack I could remember was against Real Madrid's Vinicius Jr in the games with Valencia. Madrid lost the game but I don't think his red card affected the outcome of the game. But it would have affected the match if the Brazilian received the red card earlier in the game due to his outburst after he was racially attacked. I have not read about any news of any official that has wrongly officiated a game because of the skin color of a player(s).

Match officials are highly monitored in most top Leagues and I don't think these sports association would tolerate such racism. Officials that are caught in such act would be sanctioned accordingly. Racism cases are very rare in some sports so single case of this ugly events would not stop me from engaging sports bets. Such occurance will happen once in a while and since I usually gamble with what you can afford there is no cause of an alarm.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Slow death on March 08, 2024, 04:19:10 PM
In my case I bet on football and the big leagues in Europe where the risk of match manipulation is non-existent, but it is true that in the league there have been some cases of racism against the Real Madrid player Vinicus Junior and the case of racism against him seems to be far from over although the la liga authorities are punishing people who commit crimes of racism. Now speaking from personal experience because I frequently suffer from racism, I would say that when a person is in pain because of the color they are, when deep down inside they feel ashamed of their own color, then that person becomes very psychologically unstable every time they experience racism. and loses his cool when he shouldn't, a very effective way to stop someone who commits racism is ignoring that person

going back to the case of the real madrid player vinicius, he is losing focus of the game, on the field when fans of other teams attack him, he immediately starts clashing with the fans of that team who are committing crimes of racism against him, and he doesn't realize that with this he is only making those people feel that they have power over him, that all they have to do is call him something x, then they will be able to destabilize him psychologically and he will play badly, he doesn't realize that this It's a strategy for those people. Nowadays, everyone has relatives of different colors and they laugh when they meet, so a person who commits a crime of racism is not because that person does not have relatives of different colors and does not like them.

What is this person who commits a crime of racism against another person and why does this person lose to the person they are insulting their color. as there is no other good argument, so he uses the color to feel superior at that moment, of course, being a crime, racism must be reported to the police and the person who committed the crime of racism will be tried in court and the judge will decide the penalty which should apply, as I am just a bettor and who complies with the laws and respects people, I will continue to place my sports bets, because it is up to the police and courts to punish criminals, I like sports betting and those big leagues and I have not committed no crime. racist people will be punished in court


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 08, 2024, 04:20:39 PM
Yes, I will not bet on a particular game if there are manipulation already happened on that game. I'd rather select the other games that I thinks it's not have manipulation. Sports betting can have racism happening but I don't know and don't want to thinks about so if I want to place a bet, I will research the game and decide it later. If I see that the game have a chance the racism happens, I will leaved it. Many gambling games that doesn't have racism happens so we can select and place a bet. If you don't want to see racism, you can also search for the other games. But racism is happens to some games and not happen the most games because many people watches the game and they can easily to protest to the the events organizer or the sports committee.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: pawanjain on March 08, 2024, 04:34:34 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Yes ofcourse, if we there are manipulations going on around that sport or league then isn't it better to avoid it at first place ?
Why would anyone place a bet on a match in which they are sure that results can be manipulated ?
We bet on sports because we can predict with our skills who can win the match and if that is altered then there's no point of placing the bet.
It will just be based on luck in that case.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 08, 2024, 04:38:34 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I think there are many betting games that can really manipulate the game, such as the fact that if you don't bet from the beginning, you have no chance to win in the casino.
This is the only thing that annoys a casino, but there are other gamblers who get lucky and win big, although they rarely win really big.

But even so, we as gamblers should be aware of that, and we should not be surprised because that is the cycle of gambling here in the field of crypto
gambling and even in physical gambling as well.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: salad daging on March 08, 2024, 04:43:46 PM
If you know there is manipulation in the match then you will not bet, but when you know which team will win then you will bet on that team. Lol
No it's not like that. ;D

If there is no unfair match then I think it's less interesting but many gamblers still do this in some unfamiliar lower matches or even matches that are already popular then it will be difficult to manipulate, right, try to imagine if the connoisseurs of this sport know then they can be angry and will criticize it, then it's impossible even though there is behind it all.
I will avoid matches that are rigged because it's not fair.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Rabata on March 08, 2024, 04:47:39 PM
I bet on some spots where it's hard to make a biased decision to insulate myself somewhat from situations like this. In one word, I believe in big events. Because I have already considered some of the minor league games where there has been ample evidence of racist behaviour. Moreover, small games are basically just a form of cheating with gamblers. I keep an eye on English Premier League, La Liga Spanish league and some other major leagues for stable bets in such situations. While no misses are used in smaller games, it is not possible to do so in larger events.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Bananington on March 08, 2024, 04:52:51 PM
The subject of racism is one to not be shoved aside because it is still prevalent in our society even though it is not so common online but it still affects internet connectivity locations search as well as special packages that exist for only individuals from a particular place.

I will surely avoid some games if I suspect there's some form of racism and it affects my odds or predictions or it stops me from being able to withdraw my wins because of a geographic location matter.
Besides those that fix results I don't know if KYC verification is a contributing factor to decide how a user should be treated or perceived online during betting. Am sure it doesn't work this way anymore.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: noormcs5 on March 08, 2024, 05:12:58 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

There are two things to take note of here. First, if you are a gambler then racism should be no concern to you. You should only be concerned with the sports betting and the odds offered by the betting site. Getting into the politics of the teams is no concern for a gambler, however, they should only see to the context that if this racism may give an advantage to one team over the other.

Now coming to the assurance that you can 80% of the bet is also very risky because you never know what will be the outcome of the game. When you gamble with the mindset that you are going to win this bet 100% surety, then the biggest mistake you make is that you bet with a big amount. Think that we put a major portion of our portfolio in the bet because we feel that one team will surely win. No matter what is the predictability of the outcome of the match, we should not deviate from our risk management plans.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bitbollo on March 08, 2024, 05:14:24 PM
I have never seen a chance like this for a bet.
I mean, yes maybe I have seen some racism during a match (like Milan Goalkeeper some months ago) but nothing that was directly linked to a betting game or that was able to change the result of a match. of course racism should be blamed and boycotted.
I will not consider gamblers as "part" of the issue. Some times it's also not possible to detect racism only by following the match.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bluebit25 on March 08, 2024, 05:19:21 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

With me, this is a matter of the sport itself and it does not affect the betting. IMO, some subjects lack brains to express racist behavior, between humans there is an attitude of equality and mutual respect, perhaps some subjects have human appearances but their thoughts are not of human. I remember some matches that I watched in the past, like the aggressive behavior of the fans was so aggressive that they wanted to ruin the flow of the match, not understanding what they were looking for when they insulted someone. But anyway, this probably comes back to the betting issue, this situation is just a small development and I don't think it determines the initial betting behavior.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Yatsan on March 08, 2024, 05:29:14 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I cannot see any instances wherein racism is involved. Manipulation of games is not concerned with a gambler's or fighter's race. It could have a possibility to happen with one versus one sport such as boxing but biases are supposed to be removed with judges and scoreboards. Also, it would be discriminative on the eyes of audiences and would be too obvious in my perspective. Leagues aren't run by few people alone and they won't be happy with matches being percieved in relation with cheating. Manipulation is evident in some instances but I doubt it would be common with most matches.
I bet on some spots where it's hard to make a biased decision to insulate myself somewhat from situations like this. In one word, I believe in big events. Because I have already considered some of the minor league games where there has been ample evidence of racist behaviour. Moreover, small games are basically just a form of cheating with gamblers. I keep an eye on English Premier League, La Liga Spanish league and some other major leagues for stable bets in such situations. While no misses are used in smaller games, it is not possible to do so in larger events.
Would be more likely with matches involving huge names. The only instance I assumed about fixed matches are ones involving jake paul and mayweather, to give an example. This assumption is due to their 'titles' as athletes. Primarily, Mayweather being undefeated would ring a bell regardless of who Jake Paul is. In those instances I am not comfortable with, I just choose not to bet at al and just enjoy the match. Manipulation of matches in the first place is not something that would be confessed and will just be subjectively viewed as an audience.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bittraffic on March 08, 2024, 05:41:08 PM

Never really thought something like this could happen. Could one example be like that Ngannou vs Fury?  So many have claimed Ngannou won that fight.

It will still not make me avoid sport though. The love for the sport I think will still win and will still bet on matches regardless of the outcome of some fights. I wouldn't generalize all matches haave racism involved in it. 


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 08, 2024, 06:10:22 PM
This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I agree with the fact that racist behavior is been practiced in boxing whereby a certain region wins but due to the color of the skin, the judges will like to be partial in their judgment. For that reason, boxing is what I hardly bet on with someone or on the site because of racism partiality. I can happily watch the boxing fights but not stake on them.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Huppercase on March 08, 2024, 06:35:06 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Last week match of Real Madrid and Valencia to be precise experienced a lot of racism, this is not the first time this always happened anytime Vinicious is present in those games but he always humble them with goals which he did but did the game ended well? No. The officiating teams did a bad job in the last goal Bellingham scored, worst officiating I have seen so far and this is why I don't bet on games they called Derby and El classic to save my self from different embracement.

Sports that involve racism is are easy to predicts by some players actually, you just look at what you think is impossible and then stake on that. If you see two hot teams are having a match or games, just bet on them that the match will not end as draw, the aggressiveness in those games will make you win but in spite of this, I hope racism end forever, we are bringing hateful altitude of 80s to 20s and that is very bad.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: len01 on March 08, 2024, 07:09:18 PM
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
maybe manipulation or racism in football can happen but I'm not sure if it happens in big leagues or popular leagues.
currently I have never experienced something wrong like something being manipulated in the big leagues which I currently often use as a place to bet but it might often happen in local leagues or small leagues and that is the reason I always avoid betting on local football matches very often there is racism related to such manipulation.
I'm not saying that it will never happen in the big leagues, but the popularity of the big leagues is very important and we will continue to ensure that we don't make mistakes that destroy the league's popularity, so manipulation is very rare in big leagues like the EPL.

In the past, I often placed bets on local football matches and if I won, the profits I would get were quite large, but the risks were very high and I was caught by the local bookmakers bribing several players to perform badly so that my favorite team would lose and the bet I made at that time on live betting when watching football live and until now the local league is very quiet and almost no one wants to bet on any of these matches.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Lucasgabd on March 08, 2024, 07:18:07 PM
Interesting topic and I was thinking about something on a similar idea

Would it be ok to trade a market that deals with something you’re conpletely against like guns or drugs or or clear ponzis whatever

At first my reaction was better to not even provide liquidity to this kind of things but yesterday I was thinking thar: if you’re gonna trade these better do ot with skill and in your best and extract value from this market

Still not sure and with gambling its even worse because its way more luck than skill
But still interesting to consider


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: killerfrost on March 08, 2024, 07:25:41 PM
So you heard rumors about some live bets being rigged, like the refs are in on it.  Look, I get the appeal of betting against a crooked system – who wouldn't want to win some easy money, right?  But here's the thing, trusting those rumors is a gamble itself.  There's no guarantee it's true, and even if it is, who knows what those shady characters are planning?  It's like playing a game with a deck of cards where the dealer keeps pulling out hidden aces – not exactly fair.

Besides, focusing on rigged games takes away the fun of actually knowing your stuff.  Analyzing the teams, the players, the whole situation – that's what makes a good bet.  It's like putting your skills to the test, not just blindly hoping the refs mess up.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 08, 2024, 07:31:09 PM
This happened a lot of times in boxing and I lost because of the obvious reason being rigged because of racism. Maybe this is the new normal nowadays in sports but yeah hard to predict when will happen so we really are left being disappointed with results though we just accept and move on.
I agree with the fact that racist behavior is been practiced in boxing whereby a certain region wins but due to the color of the skin, the judges will like to be partial in their judgment. For that reason, boxing is what I hardly bet on with someone or on the site because of racism partiality. I can happily watch the boxing fights but not stake on them.

I can agree that boxing sports is one of the sports being guilty of this type of bigotry. And sometimes, it is very obvious. If you believe that there is some kind of manipulation in the results, much better not to bet at all. Though we can only tell such racism happened after the fight is over and the results are out. But next time, do take note the possible factors why such event turned out that way -
> is it because the home turf of the winner?
> what about the nationalities of the judges?
> the standing of the athletes involved? who is more popular?
> who is fans' favourite?
> how about the referee? his nationality?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: coolcoinz on March 08, 2024, 07:57:55 PM
And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game.

I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

So now when your team loses it's racism, or referee is a racist because a white team won and a black team did not... What a bunch of bullshit.

No it can't be called racism when one team gets preferential treatment.

There's manipulation in sports, like it is in any other major event. You get manipulation in politics, banks manipulate money, your boss may be cheating you at work, but it's not racism. You guys are crazy with this racist shit. When you get stopped by the police for speeding it's probably also racism, just like when you don't get the job you applied for, the employee had to be a racist.

I don't see racism in major sports events, on the contrary, many champions in boxing, mma and other sports are black and nobody cares. We, normal people, don't see them as blacks, whites, or any other color, but as players, competitors, fighters.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: goaldigger on March 08, 2024, 08:08:20 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
This is that thing that can happen any time within the game and honestly it’s hard to predict it especially if you already placed your bet before the game started, so I just ignore this one and focus on my bet where you can stop any time though. Racism looks like part of the game already as no one can control it, though of course we should not tolerate this one but it looks like the league also can’t control it because this is not a new scenario anymore.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: southerngentuk on March 08, 2024, 08:23:21 PM
So, you reckon refs might favor their favorite team? Totally possible. We're all human, and a little hometown bias can sneak in, right?  But these days, with their jobs on the line and those fancy replay machines watching every call, full-on cheating by refs is pretty rare.

Racism in sports? That's a trickier one.  It might not be like shouting slurs, but maybe a ref makes some questionable calls that happen to hurt players of color more often.  And even if international stars like Jokic stay silent, that doesn't mean it's not happening.  Language barriers, cultural differences, or fear of getting benched could all keep them quiet.

FIBA seeming cleaner? Maybe it's how they pick refs, or maybe the competition level is different.  Either way, good for them!


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: GxSTxV on March 08, 2024, 10:00:00 PM
Yes racism in sport is very common we've seen it in so many situations, especially when it comes to football. In my behalf I could take every African Cup as an example all the time when this subject is mentioned,  I feel like in most of football games no matter how good the rival team is, the hosting country makes her best to take the winning.

It honestly ruins the real entertainment of sports because cheating isn't good nor fair. And as you mentioned it could ruin someone's bet on a team he believes in his win putting a decent amount of money as a bet on them just for him to end up losing his bet because the referee took some bribery. I personally don't enjoy such dirty work and I avoid games that I sense some sort of racism in them even though it's really hard to predict it.



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Zoomic on March 08, 2024, 11:09:36 PM
So, you reckon refs might favor their favorite team? Totally possible. We're all human, and a little hometown bias can sneak in, right?  But these days, with their jobs on the line and those fancy replay machines watching every call, full-on cheating by refs is pretty rare.

Racism in sports? That's a trickier one.  It might not be like shouting slurs, but maybe a ref makes some questionable calls that happen to hurt players of color more often.  And even if international stars like Jokic stay silent, that doesn't mean it's not happening.  Language barriers, cultural differences, or fear of getting benched could all keep them quiet.

FIBA seeming cleaner? Maybe it's how they pick refs, or maybe the competition level is different.  Either way, good for them!


Refs who bring racism and favoritism into sports should be called out until they go viral for the wrong reasons. Sports (especially football) is one activity that binds people of different race, religion and geographical locations together, if bad referees and managements are allowed to go away with their discriminating acts, the love that exists between sports supporters will be ruined. There will definitely be no fun watching such sport and there won't be any need betting on it either. I will not support any game that allows for unjust discriminations. Such discriminations will definitely ruin my games and make it difficult for me to make correct analysis.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 08, 2024, 11:11:48 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Never.  I have no idea how someone could even put the impacts of racism into the outcomes of sports games.  Traditionally speaking both sides of the ball have the same level of races playing in one game.  How would you pick one side vs the other based on something so rediculous as racism?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: decodx on March 09, 2024, 12:12:53 AM
Seems wild to me that someone could intentionally blow calls or whatever to try to impact gambling odds though.  Just way too much attention on these games for anything shady to slip through the cracks most likely.  More believable might be if certain refs had some internal biases about players from different backgrounds that unconsciously affected their decisions.  Or even coaches scheming certain ways 'cause of racial stereotypes about skillsets or something and  still would be real hard to prove in court, but I could see it happening.  That said, if you have an 80% chance of winning a bet, why wouldn't you?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: robelneo on March 10, 2024, 09:42:59 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

You mentioned 80% assurance so I'll go for it, I have seen a lot of manipulation and referees and judges manipulating the outcome those deeds are so obvious that you'll want to curse these people so I'll go for it this is gambling if there's a chance to win I need to take it.
There is bad officiating and racism it's the organization's problem you will hate these people but it occurs in any international event why do you bother to be concerned, take a chance to win after you collect your winning, voice your protest.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Ever-young on March 10, 2024, 09:58:56 AM
So you heard rumors about some live bets being rigged, like the refs are in on it.  Look, I get the appeal of betting against a crooked system – who wouldn't want to win some easy money, right?  But here's the thing, trusting those rumors is a gamble itself.  There's no guarantee it's true, and even if it is, who knows what those shady characters are planning?  It's like playing a game with a deck of cards where the dealer keeps pulling out hidden aces – not exactly fair.

Besides, focusing on rigged games takes away the fun of actually knowing your stuff.  Analyzing the teams, the players, the whole situation – that's what makes a good bet.  It's like putting your skills to the test, not just blindly hoping the refs mess up.

You've heard of the Golden Rule, right?  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."  Basically, it's about treating others the way you would want to be treated yourself.  When you think about sports betting, would you want to be on the receiving end of a rigged game?  Would you want to be cheated out of your money, or have the outcome of a game decided by unfair means?  Probably not.  So, by the Golden Rule, it's not ethical to try to profit from a rigged game, because you wouldn't, that doesn’t seem like to be responsible.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bakasabo on March 10, 2024, 10:07:29 AM
I wonder how can I answer to OP question, when it isnt 100% clear before the game that there will be something with racism? When speaking about racism and sport, football comes to my mind first. How can I answer OP question then? Do I avoid betting on football because of racism? No and yes. I avoid betting on football because I dont like to watch it, not fan of it. I can't name any other sports popular for racism right away. I can give examples of players being disrespectful to their opponents, but it was not due to racism.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 10, 2024, 10:11:42 AM
I don’t feel like racism has much of an effect on most sports outcomes. There might be racist hooligan fans but the officials themselves are supposed to be impartial and shouldn’t be influenced by these factors.

There are some sports where corruption is prevalent like boxing and sometimes you see fighters like Lomachenko losing a close decision because the judges favored the American fighter. It’s not necessarily racism, but there can be certain prejudice depending on where the fight is taking place.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: MainIbem on March 10, 2024, 10:16:17 AM
From my own little view a referee that is a racist can never be put to watch over the game why because they knew that there must be a compromised while selecting a referee they would chose someone who is free from racist.
Even in boxing when they noticed the referee is playing some funny game they don't coming to fight against the person losing just to protect him from losing since the referee is not straightforward.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: oktana on March 10, 2024, 11:58:13 AM
I don’t think I’ve watched a game where any of these persons were reacist, maybe because I don’t watch a lot of games as before. But if I saw a game wherein the referee or anyone (except the fans) were being racists, I’ll stop watching the game because I strongly dislike seeing a one sided judgement for something that is obviously not true. I’ve heard people speak about this racism topic in football, can you mention a match where it happened and maybe I can watch it?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Rabata on March 10, 2024, 12:17:57 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
This is that thing that can happen any time within the game and honestly it’s hard to predict it especially if you already placed your bet before the game started, so I just ignore this one and focus on my bet where you can stop any time though. Racism looks like part of the game already as no one can control it, though of course we should not tolerate this one but it looks like the league also can’t control it because this is not a new scenario anymore.
One thing I would like to say before talking about this we know that in sports betting we hear about fixed matches in fact that match may or may not be fixed. But those who are gamblers can easily understand what is actually happening. But there is no evidence or data to prove. But still we are doing sports betting. I think the same goes for racism. There is no evidence of bias. But no one can do anything even if it is going on inside. I think these matters can rather be left to fate. If there is any such behaviour in a match or a fixed match attempt then as a gambler it is better to leave it to luck.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: redsun114 on March 11, 2024, 03:58:25 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Do you mean partiality? I never knew such things happen and the management or referee can favor one team just because the other team has people from a different race, this shouldn't happen and if it does, such people in management should be sacked for their useless services and for bringing useless personal feelings in the game. There should be investigations held against them and they should be banned forever by the federations.

To be honest, I never knew they could be racist, I knew that management and the staff including the referee can be partial towards one team and try to make them win at any cost, but this is a different ballgame altogether. I never lost a match because of this, or maybe I did but I never knew it was because of something like this. So if I know in advance, I would of course avoid placing a bet on such a game.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: taufik123 on March 11, 2024, 04:40:36 AM
Do you mean partiality? I never knew such things happen and the management or referee can favor one team just because the other team has people from a different race, this shouldn't happen and if it does, such people in management should be sacked for their useless services and for bringing useless personal feelings in the game. There should be investigations held against them and they should be banned forever by the federations.
-snip-
Anyone who takes sides because of racism deserves to be fired.
The referee is the controller of the match, if the inheritance is racist and only favors skin type or uses personal feelings,
then it is not appropriate to be used as a referee.

Then dismissal would be a good way out to eliminate such a racist disease.
As happened to Real Madrid player Vinícius Júnior who played against Valencia who received racism attacks not only from the referee but also from Valencia fans who received shouts of 'monkey' to 'just die' from the home supporters' stands.

People involved in racism cases deserve a lesson, because it's not just about football matches or betting, but it's about morals and self-esteem.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37772454/vinicius-junior-racial-abuse-happened-next-real-madrid-laliga


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on March 11, 2024, 04:45:55 AM
I may not be a sports fan, but it's sad to hear and did'nt know this was a thing in sports betting. I understand that for sports bettors hesitate betting on games due to suspected racism. I hope they will address this issue and fight for fairness. People should look at how teams are doing and their stats, not their feelings about racism.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: khiholangkang on March 11, 2024, 04:50:18 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I'd rather not bet on a match that allows racism to exist, for whatever reason, because either way it becomes an unpleasant match to watch, and I feel much better if what I'm looking for from sports betting is the pleasure of seeing solidarity and fairness in the match without the intimidation of racism that makes the match unpleasant, but maybe for some people who already know it's rigged and get big odds on the side that will win by cheating, betting on that team is a clue to make money, and yes if it's money you're after then that kind of match is a place to multiply your money. That is if you know who will win. :P


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Solosanz on March 11, 2024, 04:50:37 AM
One thing I would like to say before talking about this we know that in sports betting we hear about fixed matches in fact that match may or may not be fixed. But those who are gamblers can easily understand what is actually happening. But there is no evidence or data to prove. But still we are doing sports betting. I think the same goes for racism. There is no evidence of bias. But no one can do anything even if it is going on inside. I think these matters can rather be left to fate. If there is any such behaviour in a match or a fixed match attempt then as a gambler it is better to leave it to luck.
There's a difference between fixed match and bribed referees.

In fixed match, we can't know the sign of fixed match because we can't verify if the player is intentionally or unintentionally making a mistake.

While a bribed referees, anyone has it's own eyes to watch the match, know which foul should receive yellow/red card and know it it's offside or onside. If the referees tend to give advantage to one team and disadvantage for the other team, it's clear the referee is racist.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bakasabo on March 11, 2024, 08:10:36 AM
Why acts of racism usually are expressed in football? And I have read that racism was expressed not only by opponents team fans, but by own teams fans and even teammates. Some might say that we see racism in soccer often than in other sports, because it is most popular. But there are sports that are as popular as football. For example here is the data: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html. Never heard that there are racism in hockey, tennis or basketball.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: adpinbr on March 20, 2024, 07:20:42 AM
I do understand that racism usually affect so many betting, even when the opponent are very good and have the high chance of winning, but when racism comes,They would want  to fever the other side, you find yourself losing after placing a bet that you are sure of winning, but I don’t really think that it’s applies when a team is on their home although in sports betting like the football team, that is at their home, always have the chance of winning. I don’t know how it’s been manipulated, but when gambling is going on, and people are betting, they always bet in favor of the Home to win and I don’t know how that works. Sometimes I think is the mindset of the players. The only thing I see that usually affect gambling a lot.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: teamsherry on March 20, 2024, 07:28:02 AM
Why acts of racism usually are expressed in football? And I have read that racism was expressed not only by opponents team fans, but by own teams fans and even teammates. Some might say that we see racism in soccer often than in other sports, because it is most popular. But there are sports that are as popular as football. For example here is the data: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html. Never heard that there are racism in hockey, tennis or basketball.

That is because the football community is kind of more divided than together, if you have been to the street you would see the quarrels that happen during days of Derby matches between two popular or most fanned clubs in that area like Chelsea and man United or Chelsea and man City, that's are matches that in my area could cause fights between fans out of arguments and soon they would start getting to emotional or aggressive about their different opinions. I think it's because just like ethnic groups, football teams and the setting put everyone against each other, just like speaking Different languages.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: davis196 on March 20, 2024, 07:49:35 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Can you show us an example of "racist manipulation" done by the referees(or VAR members) in a game? I don't know about such cases of "racist manipulation". Do you mean that some football player was shown red card by the referee, just because he is black and that caused his team to lose the game? What if the football player deserved to get a red card, when thought he's black? If you really believe that such racist manipulations are a thing, maybe you should bet on other sports, where racism isn't such a big problem.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Assface16678 on March 20, 2024, 08:28:25 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Can you show us an example of "racist manipulation" done by the referees(or VAR members) in a game? I don't know about such cases of "racist manipulation". Do you mean that some football player was shown red card by the referee, just because he is black and that caused his team to lose the game? What if the football player deserved to get a red card, when thought he's black? If you really believe that such racist manipulations are a thing, maybe you should bet on other sports, where racism isn't such a big problem.
The thing is, the OP didn't clarify what he meant by "racism" in sports betting because we need an example and, of course, solid proof that tackles racism in sports betting. I think maybe the referee? or the sports authority being biassed towardss the other team as they are being racist towards the opposing team maybe based on their nationality or appearance, but actual news or speculation about racism in sports betting there's no such thing as that, I guess, until we are given an example. 

But we are not ignorant not to know that such anomalies or cheating are happening in sports, so of course it could affect you if you are doing sports betting, especially in big leagues like the NBA or football. Anything could be easily manipulated by those organisers or influential. I'm a solid fan of the NBA, and when I know that there's something in the match, I will not make any bets based on the current basketball game.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bakasabo on March 20, 2024, 08:39:40 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Can you show us an example of "racist manipulation" done by the referees(or VAR members) in a game? I don't know about such cases of "racist manipulation". Do you mean that some football player was shown red card by the referee, just because he is black and that caused his team to lose the game? What if the football player deserved to get a red card, when thought he's black? If you really believe that such racist manipulations are a thing, maybe you should bet on other sports, where racism isn't such a big problem.

This is a good thing to discuss. I think if the ref is caught being racist, then this would be the last game he is working in. It would not be wise to risk your job for such a stupid reason. Such example of racism can only occur in some low value games and amateur leagues. And even there it would be stupid thing to do, as this barely would influence on the team results in the table. And much more stupid to do it in major leagues and important games.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bitzizzix on March 20, 2024, 08:52:42 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Can you show us an example of "racist manipulation" done by the referees(or VAR members) in a game? I don't know about such cases of "racist manipulation". Do you mean that some football player was shown red card by the referee, just because he is black and that caused his team to lose the game? What if the football player deserved to get a red card, when thought he's black? If you really believe that such racist manipulations are a thing, maybe you should bet on other sports, where racism isn't such a big problem.

This is a good thing to discuss. I think if the ref is caught being racist, then this would be the last game he is working in. It would not be wise to risk your job for such a stupid reason. Such example of racism can only occur in some low value games and amateur leagues. And even there it would be stupid thing to do, as this barely would influence on the team results in the table. And much more stupid to do it in major leagues and important games.
And as you said, maybe it only happens at sports matches or village football, racist acts still often happen because they are brave and don't have serious risks.
In contrast to referees in the top leagues or big leagues, in every important match, in my opinion, there are rarely referees like that. Because if that happens then it will be his last assignment and besides that there is a risk of sanctions, fines and even prison. I don't think any referee would want that, because he loves his family so much. ;D


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on March 20, 2024, 08:59:38 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I would avoid such a game, definitely, but I've never heard about something like this happening in the recent years. 

Could you provide an example, a video maybe, that would prove your words? I thought cases like these were long gone, but if there are such cases still, we have to fight them with all our might.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bakasabo on March 20, 2024, 09:00:01 AM
You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Pierre 2 on March 20, 2024, 09:12:13 AM
I know many instances of racism towards some nations and especially against Africans around the world. I feel like its less and less common in later years especially at Europe because they are trying to combat all kinds of racism. I am generally worried about gambling at European footbsu because sometimes referees don't decide according to rule book, sympathizing with one side because of racial connections - which is some kind of racism as well.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: joniboini on March 20, 2024, 09:48:17 AM
I am generally worried about gambling at European footbsu because sometimes referees don't decide according to rule book, sympathizing with one side because of racial connections - which is some kind of racism as well.
Which European football league are you referring to? Most racism news that I read happened in the Serie A or La Liga, but they have nothing to do with the ref making biased decisions but fans doing some racist activity against players. I'm referring to stuff like throwing bananas, calling names, etc. I do agree that referees usually do nothing about this, other than calming down the player if they complain and reporting to their team so that the governing body can give punishment.

If I were to make a wild guess, I'd argue that their terrible decision-making is more likely to happen due to corruption instead of being racist. Most refs decisions are just terrible whether they are racist or not, so your games can still get screwed anyway. We still need to kick them out if they're proven to be racist though.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 20, 2024, 11:33:38 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

In any game, it's not good to have that kind of racism, and it's not good in a game, to be honest. But there are still some games that have that style, especially if there are big bets involved. That's why sometimes they say that the game is cooked, like in football games.

And usually, when something like that happens, there is a lot of money involved, so sometimes the referee is also an accomplice, in fact.

You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.

That's the sad truth that there really is something like that and they do it because of money so that's what's happening.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hirose UK on March 20, 2024, 11:58:08 AM
Why acts of racism usually are expressed in football? And I have read that racism was expressed not only by opponents team fans, but by own teams fans and even teammates. Some might say that we see racism in soccer often than in other sports, because it is most popular. But there are sports that are as popular as football. For example here is the data: https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-are-the-most-popular-sports-in-the-world.html. Never heard that there are racism in hockey, tennis or basketball.
In this case I agree with you and basically racism in sports is not only in football but also several other types of sports which have quite lot of fans, almost every team will have fans or even players who of course also do things like this.
It just that some people think what they support is the best and think what they support is the team most worthy of winning, that why various narratives related to racism often appear from one side to another.
Most people don't want to see or know what they like until they have a bad response from other groups and this is why many fans of various types of sports often do some stupid things such as mocking each other and triggering fights.

If talk about racism as whole and stay away from it, it is clear that many matches will be missed because during each match there will definitely be several things that are considered racism and of course things like this are very normal.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: alani123 on March 20, 2024, 01:27:10 PM
I know for instance in some tennis matches the accusation of racist against the umpire or the opponent comes very frequently.
Serena Williams for instance used to be very outspoken about this matter, saying quite often that umpire decisions may have been waged against her due to her being a person of African descent. Serena is recognized as one of the best players in women's tennis ever. Even in her announcement of retiring, she made it a statement to say that she had to endure racism through the decades long career that she had in high-stakes professional tennis.

To me, if a top player like Serena says things like this, it has to hold some merit. We better believe the people that have endured this because they know better. Indeed individual sports like tennis and golf have a lot of gate keeping. And umpire decisions in individual sports like tennis, table tennis etc can have a huge impact on match outcomes. So this is a very valid point. I think team sports are not as affected from this because even if a  person of color is affected by a racist decision from the referee in a football or basketball game, he can be substituted. Of course this puts his team in a disadvantage but the occasions where the match depends on a red card on football or basketball aren't as frequent as there's a tennis match judged on tight umpire decisions. At least in my experience as a fan of both sports.

And with tennis especially, the fact that it's a solo sport and requires a lot of personal investment, makes it more prone to racism because it's also tied to a lot of classism and rich white people often don't like working class people taking their spot in so called elite sports like tenis.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 20, 2024, 02:15:13 PM
Yes, I avoid or don't want to play in a game when I see or find out if there is racism happening in the middle of the game or bet. That's bad luck for me, and it's not worth gambling when that happens. And it's also annoying, to be honest.

That's not funny, but the question is, why do they allow such things to enter a casino or gamble? Shouldn't that be taken away from a gambling game? Because it can even cause commotion sometimes, right?


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Gheka on March 20, 2024, 02:33:44 PM
You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.
Football matches in small regional areas are of a low level and companies and team owners regularly buy players from other countries, creating a dominant win condition but of course, tradition and some distinctions are inevitable, there are some cases where discrimination is deeply ingrained in the blood and bones, so to limit these problems, just raise professional qualifications as well as increase penalties for violators. But this problem needs to be solved by tournament organizers, as a regular gambler, avoiding these games is not necessary, just put a positive focus on the matter of betting analysis


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hispo on March 20, 2024, 04:40:36 PM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 20, 2024, 05:18:32 PM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.
One of my main considerations on where i do make bets is indeed into those bigger leagues on which i dont really tend to dive in into those smaller ones on which there would really be tons of
possible manipulative or bias kind of decisioning due to those various reasons.I dont know about those racism kind of approach for those refs which their decisions would be diffent.
Its true that these things couldnt really be applied when you are really that going with those bigger leagues knowing that any odd decisions will really be making up some issues.
This is why it would be better that you should really be sticking into these games rather than on making yourself that pushing up on smaller ones.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Wakate on March 20, 2024, 05:24:23 PM
Yes, I avoid or don't want to play in a game when I see or find out if there is racism happening in the middle of the game or bet. That's bad luck for me, and it's not worth gambling when that happens. And it's also annoying, to be honest.

That's not funny, but the question is, why do they allow such things to enter a casino or gamble? Shouldn't that be taken away from a gambling game? Because it can even cause commotion sometimes, right?
It is very good when a casino always try there best to avoid sentiments because this is one of ways that would attract more gamblers to keep using the casino. People are not always interested in racism and it's not what we need to be emphasizing on everytime to the wrong people. I am more interested in a simple and less toxic games because if it's not avoided, it may create a severe problem that could keep causing conflicts in such a casino. Even when I am betting with friends I do avoid anything that is going to cause problem or hates between us since this is the only means we could stand strong and confuse.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: GigaBit on March 20, 2024, 05:26:52 PM
You know, even in village football or in some low level league it is risky thing to do. A player or a team, against whom referee do racism actions, can beat this referee. Such players dont lose much if they  get banned from sports. It could be that my vision is spoiled by youtube, but I have seen videos where ref got punched in the face for bad refereeing. I would say it does not worth being racism. You earn little as a ref in local games and get punched in the face, or you are a top class ref, make something stupid during top league finals and get troubles for yourself and family, plus get fired.
Football matches in small regional areas are of a low level and companies and team owners regularly buy players from other countries, creating a dominant win condition but of course, tradition and some distinctions are inevitable, there are some cases where discrimination is deeply ingrained in the blood and bones, so to limit these problems, just raise professional qualifications as well as increase penalties for violators. But this problem needs to be solved by tournament organizers, as a regular gambler, avoiding these games is not necessary, just put a positive focus on the matter of betting analysis
This type of incident usually occurs in smaller tournaments or events. But if there is a desire to settle these issues properly then the  organizers can easily do it but I think they never want to do it. Because nowadays it has become a part of their income. Rather, if any such allegations are found, the organizers try to prove these are false allegations. If this situation continues, the impact on the game will continue to increase. To get rid of such incidents the regulatory body must be stricter and identify the offenders as punishable otherwise such complaints will continue to grow. As a gambler, if you see it is a suspicious match like this, you have to either exit it quickly or take it with luck. A good decision can be made after the gambler observes both the good and the bad.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Cookdata on March 20, 2024, 05:32:41 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I'm there to gamble, I don't have the time to discriminate ruling of the gambling, my mani objective of betting is to make sure that what I predicted  happen, if the league match I include in my bets has the probability of attracting racism and which will favour a particular side, that's what I'm going to bet, I have no business in what happen in the game. I believe Fifa and other football federation are watching and knows the necessary action to take to handle the issue of racism but you know they wouldn't do that because they rather watch a particular player get insulted than lose the revenue they generated from fans that bought ticket.

There is one fact I will like you to know about football or any other popular sports, racism will never end, even outside football, there is high discrimination of blacks from other part of the world and despite all this rules and law put in place to stop it, it's like they aren't doing anything at all.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on March 20, 2024, 05:34:43 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
If I void my bet because I perceived that the refree will act in an influence manner, I won't regret my actions after all the refree may have acted in a wrong direction in the past, so doing that is like saving my bets from possible manipulations because he is a racist so his decision won't be accurately or accordingly.


In football is tough ground and the battle with racisms have been high and for that we have to be very careful when betting on games, if it racism from players it can be managed but if the refree is the actor of the racism it becomes an unbearable situation that one will need to avoid betting on such games.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Natsuu on March 20, 2024, 05:41:01 PM
Honestly speaking this is the only problem that is affecting sports, especially if the match is local or country based, one will have a better support than the other, there will always be those who won't want the outsider to win because it's like a shame to challenge a country and go vs one on one in the same country, the home country will be more supported.

The only way to avoid this is to place bet on biggest matches, and pray that your favourite is well treated, still sports betting are game of luck, there are cases where the most favoured club still lose to the other that's not been treated very well, sometimes, luck will play out and the home owner will still lose.

But I do have a question, we are complaining because we are not the one at the other side, what will you have to say if the football club you are supporting has the upper hand and the football club they are going up against are the ones facing the racsism, will you still complain? Because I believe that people only think about themselves.

Alright fair point. In reality, when it comes to sports, people often prioritize their own interests. If my team benefited from biased support or racism against the opponent, I might be tempted to turn a blind eye. It's natural to be biased towards what benefits us. But deep down I know it's not right. Even if my team wins, it's still unfair to the other side. So while I might feel conflicted, I'd hope to acknowledge the injustice and advocate for fairness even if it means my team doesn't always come out on top


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on March 20, 2024, 06:01:29 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I mean not all games this could apply to, since gambling could be a fair game most of the time depending on the game right, if you have an opponent even though there is racism on it the game still works fai unless the casino itself is going to be the one that does the discrimination. I could imagine it on sports betting or some kind of game that has a referee, I mean there are a lot of games where the referee does a bad job of officiating the game, if racism occurs there they could easily take advantage of that, I've heard similar things about it on NBA games where one referee dislike one player, to the point where he always does a false call on that player every time he has the ball, that could easily lead to losing if. I could easily imagine losing that game, especially on making the false call in crucial moments, there are times I think in NBA finals that one wrong call could easily impact a lot on the game.

There was still no way around it, the best thing to do was just to avoid it in the end because it just wasn't going to be fair, there was for sure going to be some manipulation since they have the power to, I mean this referee could probably have bet as well so it's going to be easy to win some bet if they have the power to manipulate it right, if you know how it works already you might be able to take advantage of it.



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bakasabo on March 21, 2024, 11:41:48 AM
I think you confuse fixed game, bad refereeing and racism. Fixed game rarely can be seen in large sports events. Bad refereeing is more popular, but the reason of it can be low experience of a referee. But racism. How can it even be expressed? Call fault more often for players with specific skin color? I have never seen it from referee. I've seen players being disrespectful to others; for example not shaking opponents hand. I doubt that this greatly influences on a result. Fans may be rude, but a professional athlete must not pay attention to that.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: rahmad2nd on March 21, 2024, 12:31:53 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Racism? In fact, up to this moment it is still happening in the world community. whatever it is, including in the world of sports. so, things like this are not taboo issues for us. In fact, whether we realize it or not, we ourselves have the potential to become perpetrators of racism. well, now we are talking in a football context. In fact, several cases related to racism have occurred in the field. whether player to player, player to audience. on the contrary, spectators to players, referees to players, and everything in between. this phenomenon is nothing new in the world of sports.

Related to what you said, even in the big leagues racism will always exist. This is us, humans who sometimes show their dislike for something. however, at least there is a difference between small leagues and top European league competitions. In the top league, someone who commits racism will be punished if he is found to be openly doing it. Whoever he is, whether it's the fans who don't like the opposing team's players. Likewise with coaches, referees, if they do the same thing. In fact, VAR parties will also be subject to sanctions if they commit racism and manipulation. Well, at least the top leagues have very strict rules and regulations. In contrast to small domestic leagues, racism and manipulation are very common in practice. so, ideally it is better to choose a clear League competition rather than betting on a dubious League. well, we have some Top Leagues that are quite trustworthy.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on March 21, 2024, 12:40:00 PM
I don’t think I’ve ever seen an incident where racism affects the actual result but regardless of that it’s not nice to see in the modern game. It’s sad that it’s still present and not only in a few countries.

We’ve seen well publicised racism directed towards Vini Jnr of Real Madrid frequently. Spain and Italy both still have a problem, Eastern Europe is even worse. I don't know how we put a stop to it forever, maybe fines, banning orders and education.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Strongkored on March 21, 2024, 01:44:36 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
What I remember is that in an English Premier League match, my favorite team lost because of the referee's attitude which was quite highlighted at that time and showed how he was being unfair and that many of his decisions were in favor of the home team.
However, the case I mentioned never made me consider betting or choosing a team that might benefit because there would be manipulation on the part of the referee, and in my opinion, for big tournaments or big leagues, manipulation would be difficult to detect even if there was news that there was manipulation, it was just my guess and it has never been proven except for a few cases in one of the big leagues in Europe more than a decade ago and it looks like it will no longer be easy to do except in small leagues or tournaments such as in tennis for small championships where there are athletes who have been proven to organize match results and is forever banned from competing.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: harapan on March 21, 2024, 02:55:01 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Thank you for bringing this up because it has become a thing of concern to me. I noticed that in some leagues, the home team will always win whereas it is not like that in other leagues. I have tried asking questions in the past and I was told that the officials do their best to favor the home sides in order to save their head. I don't know if this can be called racism though.

Even the bookies usually give smaller odds to the home side irrespective of the strength of the away team. So to avoid losses, I usually avoid leagues where I notice this to be a norm. I want to play matches that I know there is fairness in the officiating as that will make me relaxed that the match will follow prediction.

Yes this as been a food for thought when I realized that this is how most officials tend to behave supporting or manipulating the game in favour of their hommies and it's quite unfortunate for such to be happening whereas the game was supposed to be fair,and it won't be because of that I'll start avoiding such games.
No,my love for that sports will just keep growing cause I know that there's always a lucky day for everyone and that won't stop me also not to bet on that game if I want to,cause whether racist or not sports will still live on.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: shasan on March 21, 2024, 10:24:46 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
If it is proved about the racism whether that is from the referee or any player of the team or any team or something else then I would prefer not to play on the game once again whether it make me profit or not.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: alegotardo on March 21, 2024, 11:04:30 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

In fact... it's difficult to find anyone who talks openly about this, as generally the "house advantage" is an obscure and poorly explained concept, but in fact it has a lot to do with this illegal favoritism that some referees apply.
There are those who say that this occurs because the "strength of the fans" acts negatively on the referees' morale, but a decent football referee will never let this affect him.

Regarding skin color (actual racism), I do not believe that this can harm, although cases of racism in football are still frequent, the countermeasures are effective in maintaining a balanced result. Furthermore, when it occurs, the media pays a lot of attention to the case and this discourages wrong or hasty action on the part of the event organizers.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 23, 2024, 04:08:21 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
What I remember is that in an English Premier League match, my favorite team lost because of the referee's attitude which was quite highlighted at that time and showed how he was being unfair and that many of his decisions were in favor of the home team.
However, the case I mentioned never made me consider betting or choosing a team that might benefit because there would be manipulation on the part of the referee, and in my opinion, for big tournaments or big leagues, manipulation would be difficult to detect even if there was news that there was manipulation, it was just my guess and it has never been proven except for a few cases in one of the big leagues in Europe more than a decade ago and it looks like it will no longer be easy to do except in small leagues or tournaments such as in tennis for small championships where there are athletes who have been proven to organize match results and is forever banned from competing.
Lately we have seen a lot of problems with refereeing and the VAR, for me there is still a lot of corruption, and in the PL, as in other leagues I have seen this type of behavior on the part of the referees, the truth is a little unpleasant because the corruption should not be like that in football, that spoils the whole spectacle and has made things look bad, for this reason when we are looking for ways to see if it is a problem or because they go through the case of racism, it is something that turns out to be very difficult, sometimes the racist peroans do not manifest it at all in such an important game in the major leagues of Europe, what happens is that now the cameras capture many things.

In fact, even the players cover their mouths when they speak, because they know that their lips are read, so these types of things are what have made everything in soccer be more careful, in fact I hope that the next World Cup will be better. things are better with respect to arbitration, I wait that give more importance to the tools of technology.



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: entertheabyss on March 24, 2024, 06:34:48 AM
If it is proved about the racism whether that is from the referee or any player of the team or any team or something else then I would prefer not to play on the game once again whether it make me profit or not.
Keep pushing for good results. Profits are classify important and are made because it's the fuel that keeps it going and we're here to make utilization of every energy coming our paths. Racism on games and talking about me avoiding them? Well if they happen to be games that would generate me profits, ofcourse I'm sticking to them because I'm here to accumulate profits and be on the winning end, and not some random racist matters, should I care about? Because it won't stop and it will continue to exists in football.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on March 26, 2024, 07:50:25 AM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.

So, you mean that a crooked referee shows his favoritism to a particular team not because he was paid for that, but because of his racism? It's interesting. I've never heard of such cases, although I'm sure it happens in some low level matches somewhere in rural places. I think it never happens in the games of high level nowadays.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hispo on March 26, 2024, 10:15:36 AM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.

So, you mean that a crooked referee shows his favoritism to a particular team not because he was paid for that, but because of his racism? It's interesting. I've never heard of such cases, although I'm sure it happens in some low level matches somewhere in rural places. I think it never happens in the games of high level nowadays.

Here in Latin America we have had a few cases of referees who happened to be legendarily infamous because of the way they behaved during matches, giving a special treat to one of the teams and making things difficult to the opposite one. In those cases, the referees here seem to do that because of favoritism towards an specific nationality over other. Given that, I would not feel specially shocked if some referee happened to be a closeted racist and ended up giving problems to a team of black people during an important regional match.
In that aspect, I agree with you, that that kind of manipulation is believed to be a problem forma bettor, then it is better just to avoid regional matches and focus our wager on FIFA big events, where referees are supposed to be more professional and less prone no manipulate the match at their will and whim.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: letteredhub on March 26, 2024, 10:33:22 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
There are particular football leagues that are notorious for this manipulation character just to favour a definite side and since I have known them to be that way I just had to keep away from betting on those leagues matches and stick on the major leagues we all know are not of that manipulative nature.

Outside football leagues, another type of sports that are manipulative and bias in results is boxing matches. In the world of boxing the official determine who will win and not just be the strength and ability of the boxer alone. If you're a favourite to the boxing official in that match they will always find a hedge to trim you in through rules interpretation as they wish and other means too.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 26, 2024, 11:16:34 AM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.

So, you mean that a crooked referee shows his favoritism to a particular team not because he was paid for that, but because of his racism? It's interesting. I've never heard of such cases, although I'm sure it happens in some low level matches somewhere in rural places. I think it never happens in the games of high level nowadays.

Here in Latin America we have had a few cases of referees who happened to be legendarily infamous because of the way they behaved during matches, giving a special treat to one of the teams and making things difficult to the opposite one. In those cases, the referees here seem to do that because of favoritism towards an specific nationality over other. Given that, I would not feel specially shocked if some referee happened to be a closeted racist and ended up giving problems to a team of black people during an important regional match.
In that aspect, I agree with you, that that kind of manipulation is believed to be a problem forma bettor, then it is better just to avoid regional matches and focus our wager on FIFA big events, where referees are supposed to be more professional and less prone no manipulate the match at their will and whim.
Aren't these kinds of referees being questioned after the game? In a game, a lot of people are watching and most probably filming the match. In our country, not football but in other sports, if there are some referees who are giving special treatment to one of the teams to make them win at the end of the game are being questioned as people are using social media to spread the dirty intention of the referee.

This kind of behavior resulted in them facing a grave penalty, there are fines and even suspension from their job as a referee.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: irhact on March 26, 2024, 05:16:28 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I won't bet on a game that has alot of racism going on as they can manipulate the game when they want to and they'll make me to lose my bet. If a club has too many black players and they're being hated on by both the officials and the fans. It can make them to lose games as they'll begin to lose their confidence on the playing field. Regardless of the sport, if there is racism going on it'll affect the players and also affect the games therefore I think it's better we avoid betting on those games.

VAR are poor in England which is the premier league but I don't think they're guilty of being called racist as they make mistakes for all clubs and not only clubs that are suffering from racist chants. They make mistakes as their officiating are poor but I won't stop gambling due to VAR mistakes as that can also make you to win some games as their mistakes will lead to a goal getting cancelled or awarded.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Samlucky O on March 27, 2024, 06:20:48 AM
Yes I do. I totally avoid some games due to racism expecially friendly matches. because there is always a chance of the match being rigged. Most referee don't judge matches accordingly, expecially those who are a fan to a particular country or have a relationship with the country. they will judge to the favour of the opposition, So to avoid it I totally remove a selected match I added, or don't even put it to my ticket to avoid problem. Though sometimes it might really not be racism but a mistake on the pitch that made the opposition team win. but people will never believe it's a mistake because they have already nurture that mind that it will be a racism match.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: angrybirdy on March 27, 2024, 10:14:20 AM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I won't bet on a game that has alot of racism going on as they can manipulate the game when they want to and they'll make me to lose my bet. If a club has too many black players and they're being hated on by both the officials and the fans. It can make them to lose games as they'll begin to lose their confidence on the playing field. Regardless of the sport, if there is racism going on it'll affect the players and also affect the games therefore I think it's better we avoid betting on those games.


This is one of my thoughts before, is it really possible for them to manipulate the game when the opposing team is all black? Why is the skin color of people such a big deal today? why is racism receives so much attention? we should be focused on the match not on the skin color of the players because the skill and ability of the players is not based on the color of a person.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: swogerino on March 27, 2024, 12:32:07 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Gamblers and especially sport betting tend to be much more aggressive than slot players as they think someone did wrong to them and they protest in a very nervous way while slot players have nowhere to protest as they know the results are predetermined.

It happened many times that some racist chores usually in countries with not so good ties with each other and because of these chores the game to have been interrupted which in some case can result in lost amounts of money.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Natsuu on March 27, 2024, 05:21:45 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I won't bet on a game that has alot of racism going on as they can manipulate the game when they want to and they'll make me to lose my bet. If a club has too many black players and they're being hated on by both the officials and the fans. It can make them to lose games as they'll begin to lose their confidence on the playing field. Regardless of the sport, if there is racism going on it'll affect the players and also affect the games therefore I think it's better we avoid betting on those games.


This is one of my thoughts before, is it really possible for them to manipulate the game when the opposing team is all black? Why is the skin color of people such a big deal today? why is racism receives so much attention? we should be focused on the match not on the skin color of the players because the skill and ability of the players is not based on the color of a person.

This is a good insight but I won't take this as a fact until proven or given any evidence happening. Because in terms of manipulating results, most gamblers just making their own rationalizations of why they are losing. Maybe it's part of their system or algorithm to manipulate results but how are you sure that they are doing that in the basis of the participants' race?

For me, racism occurs on direct interaction. Probably on joining communities where people are all talk and trashtalking were normalized.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Juse14 on March 27, 2024, 05:32:44 PM
Solving the problems of racism and manipulation in sport is not an easy task, but one that is imperative, requiring definite action. In contrast, sports betting that is ethical and open requires essential data, such as statistics and analytics on performance trends, as well as knowledge of teams and athletes involved in the game.

But if there are any complaints of fixing or racial discrimination in a contest, it would be fair to take action by lodging them with the concerned sports federation or betting regulatory agency.

If racism or match manipulation signs are present, you should not place a bet on that particular match; otherwise, in such a case, it is not just for the game’s good name but also to avoid being cheated out of potential loss. Moreover, we can help foster an environment where all participants in sports feel safe and respected by fighting against such practices.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: goinmerry on March 27, 2024, 05:40:56 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Racism is a big word. Are you sure those manipulations on some sports or matches before on your head are because of racism?

I'm also not sure about this but my question is, is there an incident already of game fixing or rigging just because of racism as a main reason? Usually, since sports betting is business, manipulation will happen because of certain factors but not because of racism. Besides, how can they manipulate the game if the team that will put on a racist act is dominating the whole game that even refs or anyone can't stop them?

Anyway, as a bettor, I will bet based on my analysis regardless of the sport. Aside from that, I'm sure small leagues or local leagues which are more prone to game-fixing are not usually listed on sportsbooks because of low market.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Z-tight on March 27, 2024, 05:42:00 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I am having a hard time understanding what racism has to do with this, you cannot lose a game because of racism. I don't see how the ref or VAR being racist directly affects your games, the referee may be poor in officiating and make mistakes in the match, but it does not directly affect the games you bet on, neither does this concern racism. Probably the idea you wanted to pass across didn't come out so well, because there is no connection between gambling and racism in this context.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Peanutswar on March 27, 2024, 05:45:19 PM
As possible I avoided the games having an issue possible that theres different biases in the game and the game will be just cooked and not in favour of your wage team. As for their event organization, they make sure theres no racism happening before, and after the game to make sure it gives fair decisions for both sides, sometimes people can easily notice if theres something fishy happening in the game by the decisions and gestures of the people inside the game. For the bettors they came for fun and support but if theres racism possible those wages can get a table turn because of the calls.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hispo on March 28, 2024, 08:58:58 PM
To be honest, I had never considered this to be a widespread possibility when comes to match manipulation, but thinking over it, it completely makes sense some referee happened to harbor racist feelings against one of the teams or against specific players of one of the teams.
I do not bet too often, as I usually only bet on big matches and in the football world cup, where it is pretty unlikely to be manipulated due to racism.
Though, thanks to this topic I will be sure to be more careful and check the history of the teams and of the referee if possible. Unfortunately, when comes to the world of football, there have been several infamous referees out there who completely ruin matches.

I assume this kind of problem only happens when the match is about a white versus a black team or perhaps when the referee is of a different race/skin color of those who are part of the team.

So, you mean that a crooked referee shows his favoritism to a particular team not because he was paid for that, but because of his racism? It's interesting. I've never heard of such cases, although I'm sure it happens in some low level matches somewhere in rural places. I think it never happens in the games of high level nowadays.

Here in Latin America we have had a few cases of referees who happened to be legendarily infamous because of the way they behaved during matches, giving a special treat to one of the teams and making things difficult to the opposite one. In those cases, the referees here seem to do that because of favoritism towards an specific nationality over other. Given that, I would not feel specially shocked if some referee happened to be a closeted racist and ended up giving problems to a team of black people during an important regional match.
In that aspect, I agree with you, that that kind of manipulation is believed to be a problem forma bettor, then it is better just to avoid regional matches and focus our wager on FIFA big events, where referees are supposed to be more professional and less prone no manipulate the match at their will and whim.
Aren't these kinds of referees being questioned after the game? In a game, a lot of people are watching and most probably filming the match. In our country, not football but in other sports, if there are some referees who are giving special treatment to one of the teams to make them win at the end of the game are being questioned as people are using social media to spread the dirty intention of the referee.

This kind of behavior resulted in them facing a grave penalty, there are fines and even suspension from their job as a referee.

I don't know whether they are questioned after the match or not, but It would not be surprising if they are indeed questioned of there have been some strange behavior going on during the match.
Funnily enough, I have got two cousins which are professional referees in football matches here in my country, I talked to them today and they have told me some interesting facts about their job.
They told me for example, they are not allowed to interact with the public when they travel outside their city to work as referee for a match, this is done so they do not feel biased during the match, in favor of a team and in detriment of the other.
If I had to guess, they are also forbidden to leave their hotel because the fear of the clubs they would be contacted by people who wouls like them to fix the match, for the sake of money. Since we are talking about regional leagues which are relatively low ones, it could be a possibility.

I am not sure whether I would be willing to become a professional referee, it sounds like a lot of work for little recognition. Not even mentioning one also needs to be in a good physical state as the players.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on April 02, 2024, 07:56:24 AM
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Here in Latin America we have had a few cases of referees who happened to be legendarily infamous because of the way they behaved during matches, giving a special treat to one of the teams and making things difficult to the opposite one. In those cases, the referees here seem to do that because of favoritism towards an specific nationality over other. Given that, I would not feel specially shocked if some referee happened to be a closeted racist and ended up giving problems to a team of black people during an important regional match.
In that aspect, I agree with you, that that kind of manipulation is believed to be a problem forma bettor, then it is better just to avoid regional matches and focus our wager on FIFA big events, where referees are supposed to be more professional and less prone no manipulate the match at their will and whim.

I don't know another word for that except disgusting. Human race or nationality should not be taken into consideration in any judgement sports events included. We are living in the 21st century, FFS, and people with brains abandoned this approach in the mid of 20th. I can't imagine how some people can be so retarded.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hispo on April 02, 2024, 10:11:29 AM

I don't know another word for that except disgusting. Human race or nationality should not be taken into consideration in any judgement sports events included. We are living in the 21st century, FFS, and people with brains abandoned this approach in the mid of 20th. I can't imagine how some people can be so retarded.

Well, whether we like it or not, we cannot ignore the fact those biases exist and are still common in society, so inevitably some of it will sneak their way into the world of football and other sports.
I don't have any doubt there are efforts done by the football clubs and the different sport authorities to screen their referred in search of anything which could point out towards so bias against a specific nationality or race, but in the end people can simply lie about what they think or what they have done.

Perhaps that is why social media and digital footprints have become more relevant today than before, people can really dig out much of the past of others by using search engines, many racist and xenophobes have been caught that way before and will probably continue to be caught in the future.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: livingfree on April 02, 2024, 10:23:55 AM
My bet is my bet and I don't think that I'll ever be affected by racism if it does happens to me. I'm more inclined to mistreatment than of racism.

I know that they seem to be close to each other but mistreatment and being done to me without any reason or if the staff are rude, that's what I'll start to avoid games, people and even casinos.

When I am not treated well for no reason and I just casually gamble, it's hard to find fault as to why I am being treated like that and whether it's racism or not but when we're mistreated, it's so heartbreaking.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: redsun114 on April 05, 2024, 05:11:03 PM
Aren't these kinds of referees being questioned after the game? In a game, a lot of people are watching and most probably filming the match. In our country, not football but in other sports, if there are some referees who are giving special treatment to one of the teams to make them win at the end of the game are being questioned as people are using social media to spread the dirty intention of the referee.

This kind of behavior resulted in them facing a grave penalty, there are fines and even suspension from their job as a referee.
Do you think that officials or referees or VAR officials who favor one side will openly support them? No, they would do it in a way that wouldn't make it look obvious, I know that people watching the game would feel or suspect that the referee or officials are in favor of one side and are partial to the other but they wouldn't clearly understand that they are cheating or trying to make the other side win.

This is why, most of such referees and officials get away with what they do in the field, even if it's a case of racism, they would barely get penalized or fired because they have favoured one team and made them win even if they weren't the favourites and people were expecting the other team to win.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Bravut on April 05, 2024, 05:43:40 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

This is new to me, I only know about racism players face from fans which is different from what you are mean. I don't believe racism will affect the bet you place or influence it in anyway you only got the outcome of your action.
Saying a referee is racist and the VAR members is a NO for me, what prove do you have to backup your point, judging from your context you are even giving a room for what you feel to be true which isn't.
The sport were people bets are manipulated is majorly in Comabt sports where they pay the one that is the favorite person to lose so as to liquidate all bet placed on him, but it carried out secretly.
I don't utterly doubt you, but if they want to manipulate it won't have to be that the referee is a racist or the VAR members, the actual movers must include both officials of the club.

Finally don't try to avoid taking responsibility of your action by clinging it on societal factors, you only get the results of what you gamble, as you lose someone wins and vice versa. If you feel uncomfortable on your bets don't place it, be disciplined enough to  cancel it.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on April 08, 2024, 08:06:03 AM
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Well, whether we like it or not, we cannot ignore the fact those biases exist and are still common in society, so inevitably some of it will sneak their way into the world of football and other sports.
I don't have any doubt there are efforts done by the football clubs and the different sport authorities to screen their referred in search of anything which could point out towards so bias against a specific nationality or race, but in the end people can simply lie about what they think or what they have done.

Perhaps that is why social media and digital footprints have become more relevant today than before, people can really dig out much of the past of others by using search engines, many racist and xenophobes have been caught that way before and will probably continue to be caught in the future.

I personally think that all decisions made by referees with such bias should be annulled and the game must be replayed at another time and with a different referee, obviously. I understand that setting such a rule would be not easy for all referees around, but only this way we save people from avoiding some games because of fear of possible racism by a sports referee.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Hispo on April 08, 2024, 10:42:36 AM
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Well, whether we like it or not, we cannot ignore the fact those biases exist and are still common in society, so inevitably some of it will sneak their way into the world of football and other sports.
I don't have any doubt there are efforts done by the football clubs and the different sport authorities to screen their referred in search of anything which could point out towards so bias against a specific nationality or race, but in the end people can simply lie about what they think or what they have done.

Perhaps that is why social media and digital footprints have become more relevant today than before, people can really dig out much of the past of others by using search engines, many racist and xenophobes have been caught that way before and will probably continue to be caught in the future.

I personally think that all decisions made by referees with such bias should be annulled and the game must be replayed at another time and with a different referee, obviously. I understand that setting such a rule would be not easy for all referees around, but only this way we save people from avoiding some games because of fear of possible racism by a sports referee.

Though, there would be a problem with taking such measures and adopting such a rule to deal with bad refees. See, referees are supposed to be respected by both teams and clubs in the match, regardless of the decision, if a referee alledgely does something which would benefit one of the teams playing and it could be considered to be unjust, then removing the referee would not solve the problem, because neither of the parties/teams playing is supposed to have the authority to remove him from the game and program a rematch or something similar, a third party evaluating the referee would be necessary and that will only make things more confusing an would not solve the dispute.

As it stands today, it should be enough to keep a league or organizations of referees who have a very spotless behavior and had proven themselves to be unbiased. Also, I believe the salary of referees is an important thing to look at, of they are well paid, it is less likely for them to get involved into match fixing.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: adpinbr on April 10, 2024, 10:51:33 AM
Well, you are right on your statement and your topic but I would like us to talk about the winning aspect of it in football. why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question, but will be more clarification on this home winning it will be more understanding do it’s not all the time that the whole wins even when the prediction is to the fever but it’s always happen and the prediction usually work let’s see it is 70/30 if I am to guess on it.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: joniboini on April 11, 2024, 02:05:14 PM
why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question,
I think this is the wrong thread to ask about this. You should post this on a football discussion thread or something similar since the topic is quite different. Unless you want to discuss some racism issues that happen more in home matches of certain clubs, I think your post will be out of topic. I don't recall hearing such cases though.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: 348Judah on April 11, 2024, 02:27:38 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: rachael9385 on April 11, 2024, 02:43:58 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I understand that some times we judge the action of some referees to be a racist because of the scene they put in play during the match like judging in favour of a particular team even when it's obvious that their deeds were wrong. I have had an experience where by after the wrong judgement of the referee FIFA had to demote him after the match so it's not a new experience. Irrespective of the fa t that we do experience some losses, no one enter into a casino hall or gambling site with the intention of loosing his money. However anytime I see cases like this I avoid those games because the referee might still put in same act.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 03:55:28 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on April 12, 2024, 09:07:06 AM
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Though, there would be a problem with taking such measures and adopting such a rule to deal with bad refees. See, referees are supposed to be respected by both teams and clubs in the match, regardless of the decision, if a referee alledgely does something which would benefit one of the teams playing and it could be considered to be unjust, then removing the referee would not solve the problem, because neither of the parties/teams playing is supposed to have the authority to remove him from the game and program a rematch or something similar, a third party evaluating the referee would be necessary and that will only make things more confusing an would not solve the dispute.

I'm not talking about a referee just doing something that can be considered unjust. Of course it can be very confusing and overall inconvenient. I'm talking about obvious racism. It can be spotted if it goes on repeatedly, and also if it's only confirmed by his/her social media posts.

As it stands today, it should be enough to keep a league or organizations of referees who have a very spotless behavior and had proven themselves to be unbiased. Also, I believe the salary of referees is an important thing to look at, of they are well paid, it is less likely for them to get involved into match fixing.

I agree with this. But unfortunately they can make unfair decisions based on their racism even being well paid.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 14, 2024, 12:57:55 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

The truth is, when there are manifestations of racism or something like that, it doesn't interest me, I don't like it because it is something that is not in my power to take things like that, it bothers me when there is racism and even more so in the deprotive bets, in fact that should not exist I think If we start to look at things, they are very different when it has nothing to do with sport, it is something that should not exist any less in sport. betting, in fact I don't know why in these cases this kind of thing still exists, this sets humanity back, whatever the distinction, sports or whatever.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 14, 2024, 11:52:50 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.
No one will place their bet if the situation and condition is like that. They wants to see the match is fair and lead by the referee so they will satisfy when they watch the match. We can place the bet without thinks about the referee or else because we wants to have fun and enjoy the match.

Besides that, we will not knows if the match is fair or not and we can just place the bets. That's only if we wants to place the bet but many people doesn't wants to see if the match is not fair. As long as someone doesn't thinks much about the fairness or the referee favor someone or else, that will not be a problem. Every gambler will knows what they should do and where they can place the bets so they will do something if they knows that the referee favor someone.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Taskford on April 14, 2024, 12:03:50 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

The truth is, when there are manifestations of racism or something like that, it doesn't interest me, I don't like it because it is something that is not in my power to take things like that, it bothers me when there is racism and even more so in the deprotive bets, in fact that should not exist I think If we start to look at things, they are very different when it has nothing to do with sport, it is something that should not exist any less in sport. betting, in fact I don't know why in these cases this kind of thing still exists, this sets humanity back, whatever the distinction, sports or whatever.


On some case that this kind of action happening on certain games then provably I will avoid them because on that way I will show my protest and support to boycott those sports betting options out there so that they will be alerted that there's a lot of people doesn't like the actions they have done. Maybe this cases happen since some of those officials have a team they support on that's why maybe there's a manipulation happening that's why if this issue happen for sure we can't see any fairness on that match so its better to avoid that trying to risk and tolerate all the action they do since in long run a lot of gambler or people involve on that match will suffer.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Agbamoni on April 14, 2024, 12:26:37 PM
Well, you are right on your statement and your topic but I would like us to talk about the winning aspect of it in football. why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question, but will be more clarification on this home winning it will be more understanding do it’s not all the time that the whole wins even when the prediction is to the fever but it’s always happen and the prediction usually work let’s see it is 70/30 if I am to guess on it.
Let me make it very clear to you. When they mean by home advantage it doesn't mean that any team at Home is 100% guaranteed to win the match. It doesn't happen like that in all games. But there is a higher chance to win the game this is because that is their own football training peach. It is believed that they have mastered every corner of the peach, and they are more familiar on how games are played on the peach more than their opposing teams. It's nothing but a phycological thing in football.

Another, thing is that the fans and their cheer up also helps a lot when they are at Home. Statistically when playing at home there are more fans to watch and cheer the game more than the number of fans that are present to cheer the opposing team.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Blitzboy on April 14, 2024, 01:03:03 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.
Look, saying racism doesnt exist in VAR just because we see things differently? Thats weak. Its ignoring the problem. People have different views, sure, but that doesnt mean there's no such thing as bias built into the system. Saying "everyone sees it their own way" is a cop-out. Check the numbers, read the studies - they scream that there's a fairness problem. We cant hide behind opinions, we need facts. We need to be honest, dig deep, and fix this. True fairness means facing the possibility that the system itself is flawed.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: rodskee on April 14, 2024, 01:16:23 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.
No one will place their bet if the situation and condition is like that. They wants to see the match is fair and lead by the referee so they will satisfy when they watch the match. We can place the bet without thinks about the referee or else because we wants to have fun and enjoy the match.
yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.


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Besides that, we will not knows if the match is fair or not and we can just place the bets. That's only if we wants to place the bet but many people doesn't wants to see if the match is not fair. As long as someone doesn't thinks much about the fairness or the referee favor someone or else, that will not be a problem. Every gambler will knows what they should do and where they can place the bets so they will do something if they knows that the referee favor someone.
well gambling and sports are taking part of those mate and the best way to deal
with this ? is to enjoy and to have fun each bets.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: uneng on April 14, 2024, 01:27:52 PM
Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.
Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 15, 2024, 12:18:15 PM
yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.
We should knows what we wants to choose, whether if the referee can't fairs enough or cheats for every team. It's better we don't thinks too serious about the match and place the bets if we wants. For those who are fans of the team can watch their favorite team play against the other team. We can only hopes that the referee will be fair enough with all teams so the match can run smoothly without any problems from the referee or others.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Awaklara on April 15, 2024, 12:25:57 PM
Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.
but once the bet has been placed it will not be able to change anything that happens when there is racism or cheating by the referee. The result of the match will determine whether we win or lose.
I wouldn't think too much about it. only bet on teams that I know their strengths. maybe become a little fanatical when betting on a team where we are fans. but we should pay attention to the chances of winning from the bets we make.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Fara Chan on April 15, 2024, 01:31:53 PM
Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.
I will not play a game where the competition is unfair, because it shows that the opponent being helped does not have the ability to win on his own so he only relies on help to win and beat others in that game. And to be honest, the party who wins because of help must also be ashamed that it was not because of his skill and the prize he received was also not from clean results. So I'm sure everyone probably won't like a game like that because it's really dirty.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: topbitcoin on April 15, 2024, 01:53:20 PM
To some extent, I understand the concerns some people feel about racism in gaming and its impact on sports betting. It is true that cases of racism during matches can be a source of distrust in betting results. There are many aspects to consider when you want to bet on a game. One such aspect is whether there will be transparency and honesty in the game. If you feel racism or manipulation of any kind will occur, it may not be wise to place your bets on the match.

At the same time, refusing to participate in some games for fear of racism or manipulation also raises questions about the ethics of our relationship with sport. Is it better to avoid matches that may be prone to racism, or is it better not to disengage from efforts and struggles to challenge and fight racism in sport?

In situations like this, it is quite important for us to always maintain our sanity and common sense, namely by always considering all the impacts of the decisions we will take. So that we will be part of the people who always maintain the integrity of sports, and play a role in overcoming the problem of racism in sports.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: o48o on April 15, 2024, 01:55:50 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe i live in the bubble when i haven't even heard about referees being racists ever, but i guess that's a possibility, as why would referees live outside of that issue. But i have to wonder that how would that be combatted against, apart from racism awareness. Because referees make mistakes all the time in nordic countries, and because we have been traditionally white, no one has even thought about racism. So proving that some referee's actions were racist, would either be hard to prove and most likely matter of confirmation bias, or statistically obvious racism.

And now teams can be multiracial mixes of every ethnicity, so referees would need to be against individual players, and people would notice that even easier.

Being a referee is sort of honor system and if someone was suspected of playing favors or being against someone, they wouldn't work much as referees in the future. Not at least in here.

As a white man, it's quite hard to see that, as we aren't wired to notice continuous unequality towards others. When it's suddle enough.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: rodskee on April 16, 2024, 12:18:36 PM
yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.
That is what we wanted to happen that the referee will act towards the betterment of the
game and its result but the problem is that do the thing happened as this? because we knew that
there are anomaly in sports for how many years now so eb aware of those chances of being rigged.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: dansus021 on April 16, 2024, 02:01:51 PM
Do you avoid some games because of racism? No and I never heard about racism in gambling I mean I only play online gambling but didn't found case about racism. Just advice if you wanna play just play and don't think about other thing if you like it just play it as simple as that tho this is just a personal opinion from me

Tho racism in a chat maybe there is one or two people but I really avoid gambling chat hahah


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: danherbias07 on April 16, 2024, 03:46:57 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.
I think those things only happen in small leagues but I really it can be done in professional leagues as different races become a part of the committee and I am sure they will be against it so there will be a punishment for officials who would use that kind of strategy.

I don't pay attention to this kind of thing too because I have not really seen something like racism happen yet. Also, most popular betting sites don't add small leagues in their sports  lists so there's no way to make a bet for it unless it is happening in your local and there's a sports bookie who are always present whenever a match will happen.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 16, 2024, 03:57:36 PM
With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 18, 2024, 03:46:09 PM
On some case that this kind of action happening on certain games then provably I will avoid them because on that way I will show my protest and support to boycott those sports betting options out there so that they will be alerted that there's a lot of people doesn't like the actions they have done. Maybe this cases happen since some of those officials have a team they support on that's why maybe there's a manipulation happening that's why if this issue happen for sure we can't see any fairness on that match so its better to avoid that trying to risk and tolerate all the action they do since in long run a lot of gambler or people involve on that match will suffer.
I think that not only you, but that we all have to boycott things or manifestations of racism, whether here in the Apostases, whether at any level, it is not possible that at this point in life we are thinking about this type of racism things , where basically things do not have to exist anymore, if this existed it should not exist anymore, I think that sometimes not even in sporting events it should not generate any type of pride that represents this type of events.

I think a lot can be done, from now on bitconitalk, if people raise their voices and this goes in several directions, something very big can be done with this type of thing



Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Betwrong on April 19, 2024, 09:31:01 AM
With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.

You meant "fair"? Yes, I agree with you. It becomes harder and harder nowadays to pass an unfair judgement based on your own prejudices. If anything like that happens in the games of high level, with modern technologies it will be spotted right away. In the games of lower level, however, held in some rural areas, things like this can happen without being spotted. But it becomes less and less often these days thanks to technological advancements.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: shivansps on April 19, 2024, 10:30:29 AM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2024, 11:17:30 AM
I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues
I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: shasan on April 30, 2024, 09:29:27 PM
I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.
I agree with you that OP is not trying to talk about the color of a player or team instead the OP is trying to talk about the team of a country or league or something like that as it is not about a person there is nothing wrong with the op.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: Fortify on April 30, 2024, 09:48:26 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Could you give some actual specific examples or is all you're doing based on speculation? I haven't seen any referee giving off signals they are making decisions based on racism and how would you even judge that? There are so many divers and drama queens in football these days the ref has a tough enough decision without being clouded by other things. Why would it be limited to race? Maybe the VAR ref supports a certain team or wants to see another fail? The decisions they make are ultimately backed up with visual evidence and staying within the rules, if they keep failing consistently then they will lose their job long term.


Title: Re: Do you avoid some games because of racism?
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 30, 2024, 10:04:39 PM
Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Racism is a really strong action that is being tackled and corrected in the world. I don't know how often this kind of thing happen but I think every coach or referee are strictly discipline to the fact and notice that everyone is the same and no bias nature of anything possible outcome in the match. Referee are the last line of defending and reffing the game because their simple action can change the whole entire outcome of the league winners.